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migrant boat in the english channel. at least 27 people drowned. the suspects are believed to be a part of the people smuggling network. now come on bbc news, it is time for the media show. you be hearing a lot more in this programme above one of the worlds most conspiracy theories. white bristles mayor is facing a boycott in the press briefings and what it says about the fractious relationship between councils and journalists. i guess on the topic and 20 a7, and green who was a local democracy reporterfor and green who was a local democracy reporter for the evening news. martin, welcome to the media show. what is your big story in bristol today?

i've been visiting the newly repainted rainbow crossing just painted in time for the pride celebrations so, we have a brand—new rainbow celebrations so, we have a brand-new rainbow crossing. charlotte. — brand-new rainbow crossing. charlotte, what _ brand-new rainbow crossing. charlotte, what have - brand-new rainbow crossing. charlotte, what have you - brand-new rainbow crossing. | charlotte, what have you been covering? charlotte, what have you been coverin: ? charlotte, what have you been covering?— covering? the new local elections _ covering? the new local elections and _ covering? the new local elections and i've - covering? the new local elections and i've been l covering? the new local - elections and i've been talking to them — elections and i've been talking to them about what the plans are from _ to them about what the plans are from the borough with a plan — are from the borough with a plan to— are from the borough with a plan to do differently. that is a full spectrum _ plan to do differently. that is a full spectrum of _ plan to do differently. that is a full spectrum of local- a full spectrum of local journalism and will be hearing more from both of you and others in a bit and will start with an extraordinary story of the side of atlantic. the conspiracy theory this is donald trump is been waging war on it the ball the satanic paedophiles who stole the 2020 us elections. completely unfounded theories that are believed by significant numbers. cue and non—supporters were among those that strum the capital last year. the movement has been fuelled by the online postings of a user signs on its

queue. after nearly two years of silence, q queue. after nearly two years of silence, 0 posted again. the international editor of bbc news and the presenter of the documentary series, the coming storm that's saw the rise of cueing on and they see the assistant professor of the university of information. welcome to the media show. hello. most welcome. gabriel, 0 is back and how do we know this? what is happened? it? is back and how do we know this? what is happened? o was the sunpose — this? what is happened? o was the suppose figure _ this? what is happened? o was the suppose figure who - this? what is happened? o was the suppose figure who was - the suppose figure who was summed _ the suppose figure who was surwposed to— the suppose figure who was supposed to be _ the suppose figure who was supposed to be a _ the suppose figure who was . supposed to be a government insider with— supposed to be a government insider with high level- insider with high level security— insider with high level security clearance - insider with high level| security clearance who insider with high level- security clearance who was revealing _ security clearance who was revealing secrets - security clearance who was revealing secrets about. security clearance who wasi revealing secrets about this cabal — revealing secrets about this cabal of _ revealing secrets about this cabal of satanic _ revealing secrets about this| cabal of satanic paedophiles that supposedly— cabal of satanic paedophiles that supposedly captured i cabal of satanic paedophilesl that supposedly captured the levers — that supposedly captured the levers of _ that supposedly captured the levers of government - that supposedly captured the levers of government in - that supposedly captured the levers of government in the i levers of government in the united _ levers of government in the united states— levers of government in the united states and _ levers of government in the united states and q - levers of government in the united states and 0 was . levers of government in thel united states and 0 was this insider— united states and 0 was this insider those _ united states and 0 was this insider those posting - united states and 0 was this insider those posting his- insider those posting his secret— insider those posting his secret on— insider those posting his secret on a _ insider those posting his secret on a little—known| secret on a little—known website _ secret on a little—known website called - secret on a little—known website called for - secret on a little—known . website called for chandon secret on a little—known -

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them. it is a good question i think it has to do with roe v wade overturned. it’s think it has to do with roe v wade overturned.— wade overturned. it's a big olitical wade overturned. it's a big political moment. - wade overturned. it's a big political moment. his - wade overturned. it's a big - political moment. his audience is paying attention and so, thatis is paying attention and so, that is what stepping in right now. ,, ., , that is what stepping in right now. ,, . , ., now. shall we play the game once work — now. shall we play the game once work was _ now. shall we play the game once work was make - now. shall we play the game once work was make it - now. shall we play the game once work was make it out . now. shall we play the game | once work was make it out to now. shall we play the game - once work was make it out to be done this way and are you ready to serve your country again remember your oath. to serve your country again rememberyour oath. lots to serve your country again remember your oath. lots of speculation about who 0 is and they go down that road and tell us, who you think he is. most people who — us, who you think he is. most people who have _ us, who you think he is. most people who have looked - us, who you think he is. most people who have looked into | people who have looked into this and _ people who have looked into this and have _ people who have looked into this and have dug _ people who have looked into this and have dug into - people who have looked into this and have dug into this . people who have looked into l this and have dug into this and know— this and have dug into this and know about _ this and have dug into this and know about the _ this and have dug into this and know about the intricacies - this and have dug into this and know about the intricacies of l know about the intricacies of the image _ know about the intricacies of the image boards— know about the intricacies of the image boards and - know about the intricacies of the image boards and i- know about the intricacies of the image boards and i do. the image boards and i do believe _ the image boards and i do believe that— the image boards and i do believe that however- the image boards and i do believe that however 0 i the image boards and i do. believe that however 0 anon started — believe that however 0 anon started is _ believe that however 0 anon started is likely _ believe that however 0 anon started is likely that - believe that however 0 anon started is likely that they - started is likely that they started _ started is likely that they started as a _ started is likely that they started as a game - started is likely that they started as a game and i started is likely that theyl started as a game and it's interesting _ started as a game and it's interesting that— started as a game and it's interesting that this - started as a game and it's- interesting that this reference to shall— interesting that this reference to shall we _

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game and that is very strong evidence that it started as i game and that is very strong evidence that it started as a| evidence that it started as a live action _ evidence that it started as a live action role _ evidence that it started as a live action role play. - evidence that it started as a live action role play. kinda. live action role play. kinda like — live action role play. kinda like dungeons _ live action role play. kinda like dungeons &_ live action role play. kinda like dungeons & dragons i live action role play. kinda - like dungeons & dragons online for people — like dungeons & dragons online for people play— like dungeons & dragons online for pe0ple play a _ like dungeons & dragons online for people play a role _ like dungeons & dragons online for people play a role in- for people play a role in pretend _ for people play a role in pretend to _ for people play a role in pretend to be _ for people play a role in pretend to be a - for people play a role in pretend to be a high - for people play a role in. pretend to be a high level government— pretend to be a high level government insider- pretend to be a high level government insider and l government insider and other people — government insider and other people play— government insider and other people play along _ government insider and other people play along and - government insider and other| people play along and pretend to believe _ people play along and pretend to believe it _ people play along and pretend to believe it but _ people play along and pretend to believe it but don't - people play along and pretend to believe it but don't really. to believe it but don't really the idea _ to believe it but don't really the idea that _ to believe it but don't really the idea that q _ to believe it but don't really the idea that q anon - to believe it but don't really| the idea that q anonjumped to believe it but don't really- the idea that q anonjumped out of this— the idea that q anonjumped out of this niche _ the idea that q anonjumped out of this niche portion _ the idea that q anonjumped out of this niche portion of - the idea that q anonjumped out of this niche portion of the - of this niche portion of the internet _ of this niche portion of the internet where _ of this niche portion of the internet where people - of this niche portion of the | internet where people kind of this niche portion of the i internet where people kind of knew — internet where people kind of knew what _ internet where people kind of knew what was _ internet where people kind of knew what was going - internet where people kind of knew what was going on - internet where people kind of knew what was going on and i internet where people kind of- knew what was going on and onto the mainstream _ knew what was going on and onto the mainstream internet, - the mainstream internet, facebook, _ the mainstream internet, facebook, youtube - the mainstream internet, | facebook, youtube where the mainstream internet, - facebook, youtube where people were _ facebook, youtube where people were not— facebook, youtube where people were not so— facebook, youtube where people were not so savvy— facebook, youtube where people were not so savvy and _ facebook, youtube where people were not so savvy and started - were not so savvy and started believing _ were not so savvy and started believing these _ were not so savvy and started believing these kinds - believing these kinds of outlandish— believing these kinds of outlandish things. - believing these kinds of. outlandish things. whoever started _ outlandish things. whoever started it. _ outlandish things. whoever started it, we _ outlandish things. whoever started it, we think- outlandish things. whoever started it, we think that - outlandish things. whoever. started it, we think that we've ended — started it, we think that we've ended up— started it, we think that we've ended up being _ started it, we think that we've ended up being controlled - started it, we think that we've ended up being controlled byi ended up being controlled by the strength— ended up being controlled by the strength father— ended up being controlled by the strength father and - ended up being controlled by the strength father and son i the strength father and son called — the strength father and son called jim _ the strength father and son calledjim and— the strength father and son called jim and rod - 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then, his sons a computeri then, his sons a computer programmer— then, his sons a computer programmerand - then, his sons a computer programmerand we - then, his sons a computer programmerand we think| then, his sons a computer- programmer and we think that in the latter— programmer and we think that in the latter months and _ programmer and we think that in the latter months and years of. the latter months and years of 0 anon, — the latter months and years of 0 anon, they— the latter months and years of q anon, they were _ the latter months and years of q anon, they were the - the latter months and years of q anon, they were the ones i the latter months and years of l 0 anon, they were the ones who q anon, they were the ones who are controlling _ q anon, they were the ones who are controlling it _ q anon, they were the ones who are controlling it and _ are controlling it and certainly. _ are controlling it and certainly, in- are controlling it and certainly, in the - are controlling it and . certainly, in the course are controlling it and - certainly, in the course of researching _ certainly, in the course of researching my _ certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, i certainly, in the course of- researching my podcast, there were _ researching my podcast, there were evidence _ researching my podcast, there were evidence that _ researching my podcast, there were evidence that we - researching my podcast, there i were evidence that we uncovered in other— were evidence that we uncovered in other people _ were evidence that we uncovered in other people uncovered - were evidence that we uncovered in other people uncovered that. in other people uncovered that people — in other people uncovered that people in— in other people uncovered that people in the _ in other people uncovered that people in the trump _ in other people uncovered that people in the trump orbit - in other people uncovered that people in the trump orbit and i people in the trump orbit and the remnant— people in the trump orbit and the remnant of— people in the trump orbit and the remnant of the _ people in the trump orbit and the remnant of the 2020 - the remnant of the 2020 election— the remnant of the 2020 election campaign- the remnant of the 2020 election campaign had i the remnant of the 2020 i election campaign had been the remnant of the 2020 - election campaign had been in touch— election campaign had been in touch with _ election campaign had been in touch with the _ election campaign had been in touch with the watkins - election campaign had been in touch with the watkins in - election campaign had been ini touch with the watkins in order touch with the watkins in order to try— touch with the watkins in order to try to— touch with the watkins in order to try to harness _ touch with the watkins in order to try to harness the _ touch with the watkins in order to try to harness the power - touch with the watkins in order to try to harness the power of. to try to harness the power of this crazy— to try to harness the power of this crazy conspiracy - to try to harness the power of this crazy conspiracy theory i to try to harness the power ofi this crazy conspiracy theory to help— this crazy conspiracy theory to help it — this crazy conspiracy theory to help it donald _ this crazy conspiracy theory to help it donald trump - this crazy conspiracy theory to help it donald trump elected. i this crazy conspiracy theory toi help it donald trump elected. i help it donald trump elected. agree. and all the evidence points towards this because the short code and there's evidence that it was edited manually to match the original short code and an administrator of the site came in with the intervention. basically, it is like a real evident that they are behind this and she was the

site manager. —— are behind this and she was the site manager. -- q.— are behind this and she was the site manager. -- q. asking why we are talking _ site manager. -- q. asking why we are talking about _ site manager. -- q. asking why we are talking about such - site manager. -- q. asking why we are talking about such a - we are talking about such a conspiracy in the original narratives that q anon spread and an alleged paedophile ring run by henry clinton and there's much more to it than that. how is it influencing political debate?- that. how is it influencing olitical debate? ~ . ., ,, political debate? what happened after the election _ political debate? what happened after the election was _ political debate? what happened after the election was this - political debate? what happened after the election was this q - after the election was this 0 anon conspiracy— after the election was this 0 anon conspiracy theory- after the election was this qi anon conspiracy theory which how— anon conspiracy theory which how many— anon conspiracy theory which how many believers - anon conspiracy theory which how many believers it - anon conspiracy theory which how many believers it had i how many believers it had because _ how many believers it had because of— how many believers it had because of the _ how many believers it had because of the spectrum i how many believers it had - because of the spectrum from people — because of the spectrum from people who _ because of the spectrum from people who literally— because of the spectrum from people who literally believe i people who literally believe that hillary— people who literally believe that hillary clinton - people who literally believe that hillary clinton drinks . that hillary clinton drinks babies— that hillary clinton drinks babies blood, _ that hillary clinton drinks babies blood, to - that hillary clinton drinks babies blood, to people i that hillary clinton drinks i babies blood, to people who believe _ babies blood, to people who believe there _ babies blood, to people who believe there is _ babies blood, to people who believe there is a _ babies blood, to people who believe there is a deep- babies blood, to people who believe there is a deep state and people _ believe there is a deep state and people that _ believe there is a deep state and people that we - believe there is a deep state and people that we don't - believe there is a deep state . and people that we don't know are controlling _ and people that we don't know are controlling our— and people that we don't know are controlling our lives. - are controlling our lives. thev're _ are controlling our lives. they're not— are controlling our lives. they're not that many i they're not that many people who believe this, surely? you would be _ who believe this, surely? you would be surprised. _ who believe this, surely? you would be surprised. i - who believe this, surely? you would be surprised. i am who believe this, surely? you would be surprised. iam not kidding — would be surprised. iam not kidding vou~ _

would be surprised. iam not kidding you. what _ would be surprised. iam not kidding you. what happened| would be surprised. i am not - kidding you. what happened was, this 0 _ kidding you. what happened was, this 0 anon— kidding you. what happened was, this 0 anon conspiracy— kidding you. what happened was, this 0 anon conspiracy theory- this 0 anon conspiracy theory about— this 0 anon conspiracy theory about the _ this 0 anon conspiracy theory about the cabal of _ this 0 anon conspiracy theory about the cabal of satanic- about the cabal of satanic paedophiles— about the cabal of satanic paedophiles merged - about the cabal of satanic paedophiles merged with| about the cabal of satanic. paedophiles merged with the conspiracy— paedophiles merged with the conspiracy theory— paedophiles merged with the conspiracy theory about - paedophiles merged with the conspiracy theory about howl paedophiles merged with the i conspiracy theory about how the election— conspiracy theory about how the election was _ conspiracy theory about how the election was stolen _ conspiracy theory about how the election was stolen and - conspiracy theory about how the election was stolen and in - conspiracy theory about how the election was stolen and in a - election was stolen and in a sense, _ election was stolen and in a sense, the conspiracy- election was stolen and in al sense, the conspiracy theory which — sense, the conspiracy theory which involved _ sense, the conspiracy theory which involved these - sense, the conspiracy theory which involved these weird l which involved these weird voting _ which involved these weird voting machines _ which involved these weird voting machines court - which involved these weird - voting machines court dominion voting _ voting machines court dominion voting machines _ voting machines court dominion voting machines their— voting machines court dominion voting machines their flipping . voting machines their flipping votes — voting machines their flipping votes from _ voting machines their flipping votes from donald _ voting machines their flipping votes from donald trump - voting machines their flipping votes from donald trump to i voting machines their flipping . votes from donald trump to joe biden, — votes from donald trump to joe biden, the _ votes from donald trump to joe biden, the conspiracy— votes from donald trump to joe biden, the conspiracy was - biden, the conspiracy was promoted _ biden, the conspiracy was promoted by— biden, the conspiracy was promoted by the - biden, the conspiracy was promoted by the same . biden, the conspiracy was. promoted by the same ron watkins _ promoted by the same ron watkins guy— promoted by the same ron watkins guy who _ promoted by the same ron watkins guy who was - promoted by the same ron watkins guy who was one l promoted by the same roni watkins guy who was one of promoted by the same ron - watkins guy who was one of the administrators— watkins guy who was one of the administrators you _ watkins guy who was one of the administrators you think- watkins guy who was one of the administrators you think may i administrators you think may have — administrators you think may have been— administrators you think may have been controlling - administrators you think may have been controlling q - administrators you think mayl have been controlling q anon. these — have been controlling q anon. these two _ have been controlling q anon. these two things _ have been controlling q anon. these two things merged - have been controlling q anon. these two things merged in. have been controlling q anon. i these two things merged in what is happening _ these two things merged in what is happening now— these two things merged in what is happening now is— these two things merged in what is happening now is the - these two things merged in what is happening now is the idea - is happening now is the idea that— is happening now is the idea that america _ is happening now is the idea that america is _ is happening now is the idea that america is controlled i is happening now is the idea| that america is controlled by is happening now is the idea . that america is controlled by a malevolent _ that america is controlled by a malevolent force, _ that america is controlled by a malevolent force, a _ that america is controlled by a malevolent force, a deep - that america is controlled by a| malevolent force, a deep state that is — malevolent force, a deep state that is subverted _ malevolent force, a deep state that is subverted its _ malevolent force, a deep state | that is subverted its democracy is not _ that is subverted its democracy is not a — that is subverted its democracy is not a mainstream _ is not a mainstream political opinion _ is not a mainstream political opinion. there _ is not a mainstream political opinion. there a _ is not a mainstream political opinion. there a massive - is not a mainstream political. opinion. there a massive battle going _ opinion. there a massive battle going on— opinion. there a massive battle going on inside _ opinion. there a massive battle going on inside the _ opinion. there a massive battle going on inside the republicanl going on inside the republican party— going on inside the republican party between— going on inside the republican party between those _ going on inside the republican party between those who - going on inside the republican . party between those who believe this big _ party between those who believe this big lie. — party between those who believe this big lie, those _ party between those who believe this big lie, those are _ this big lie, those are promoting _ this big lie, those are promoting the - this big lie, those are promoting the big - this big lie, those are promoting the big lie| this big lie, those are - promoting the big lie and those who really— promoting the big lie and those who really don't. _

promoting the big lie and those who really don't. but _ promoting the big lie and those who really don't. but it- promoting the big lie and those who really don't. but it has- who really don't. but it has become _ who really don't. but it has become massively- who really don't. but it has- become massively mainstream and if you _ become massively mainstream and if you look— become massively mainstream and if you look at — become massively mainstream and if you look at the _ become massively mainstream and if you look at the hearings - if you look at the hearings that — if you look at the hearings that are _ if you look at the hearings that are currently - if you look at the hearings that are currently going i if you look at the hearings| that are currently going on if you look at the hearings i that are currently going on in capitol— that are currently going on in capitol hill _ that are currently going on in capitol hill into _ that are currently going on in capitol hill into what - that are currently going on in . capitol hill into what happened onjanuarv_ capitol hill into what happened on january six. _ capitol hill into what happened onjanuary six, 2021 _ capitol hill into what happened on january six, 2021 storming i onjanuary six, 2021 storming of the — onjanuary six, 2021 storming of the us— onjanuary six, 2021 storming of the us capitol. _ onjanuary six, 2021 storming of the us capitol. what - onjanuary six, 2021 storming of the us capitol. what we i on january six, 2021stormingl of the us capitol. what we see is the — of the us capitol. what we see is the american _ of the us capitol. what we see is the american electorate - of the us capitol. what we see is the american electorate is l is the american electorate is completely— is the american electorate is completely bifurcated - is the american electorate is completely bifurcated by- completely bifurcated by conspiracv _ completely bifurcated by conspiracy theories - completely bifurcated by conspiracy theories that| completely bifurcated by- conspiracy theories that really have — conspiracy theories that really have 0 — conspiracy theories that really have 0 anon— conspiracy theories that really have 0 anon is— conspiracy theories that really have 0 anon is a _ conspiracy theories that really have 0 anon is a element. - conspiracy theories that reallyi have 0 anon is a element. and this is— have 0 anon is a element. and this is answerable _ have 0 anon is a element. and this is answerable and - have 0 anon is a element. and this is answerable and it - have 0 anon is a element. and this is answerable and it has i this is answerable and it has become _ this is answerable and it has become an— this is answerable and it has become an entirely - this is answerable and it has become an entirely political| become an entirely political question— become an entirely political question and _ become an entirely political question and no _ become an entirely political question and no fact - become an entirely politicali question and no fact seemed capable _ question and no fact seemed capable of— question and no fact seemed capable of dissuading - question and no fact seemed capable of dissuading people who believe _ capable of dissuading people who believe this _ capable of dissuading people who believe this conspiracy i who believe this conspiracy theory— who believe this conspiracy theory are _ who believe this conspiracy theory are of the _ who believe this conspiracy theory are of the falseness| who believe this conspiracy . theory are of the falseness of it. , , ., ., , , it. this is a vast thing. this is meant — it. this is a vast thing. this is meant to _ it. this is a vast thing. this is meant to so _ it. this is a vast thing. this is meant to so many - it. this is a vast thing. this| is meant to so many people it. this is a vast thing. this - is meant to so many people who have taken it up. is it a top—down thing is it something about the way that they are using social media to give power to individuals to be a part of it was blue i think

it's at, there are many things about it. ~ . it's at, there are many things aboutit. ~ ., ,, about it. like all conspiracy theories. — about it. like all conspiracy theories, there, _ about it. like all conspiracy theories, there, the - about it. like all conspiracy theories, there, the core i about it. like all conspiracy i theories, there, the core truth of the — theories, there, the core truth of the conspiracy theory is that— of the conspiracy theory is that child abuse, pornography, paedophilia and corruption are real problems in the world. so, it is easy— real problems in the world. so, it is easy to— real problems in the world. so, it is easy to fact check went to the — it is easy to fact check went to the conspiracy theory. but all of— to the conspiracy theory. but all of this— to the conspiracy theory. but all of this is accompanied by lies and _ all of this is accompanied by lies and misrepresentations of the core truth which is all controlled by these crazy cabals _ controlled by these crazy cabals and democrats and paedophiles. so, ithink cabals and democrats and paedophiles. so, i think that's what _ paedophiles. so, i think that's what makes it. paedophiles. so, ithink that's what makes it.— what makes it. talking about the core truths, _ what makes it. talking about the core truths, and - what makes it. talking about the core truths, and i - what makes it. talking about the core truths, and i was . the core truths, and i was doing _ the core truths, and i was doing this _ the core truths, and i was doing this podcast, - the core truths, and i was. doing this podcast, speaking the core truths, and i was- doing this podcast, speaking to luy doing this podcast, speaking to guv about, _ doing this podcast, speaking to guy about, donald _ doing this podcast, speaking to guy about, donald trump - doing this podcast, speaking to guy about, donald trump is - doing this podcast, speaking to guy about, donald trump is a l guy about, donald trump is a russian — guy about, donald trump is a russian spy— guy about, donald trump is a russian spy conspiracy- guy about, donald trump is a russian spy conspiracy which| guy about, donald trump is a i russian spy conspiracy which is also _ russian spy conspiracy which is also conspiracy— russian spy conspiracy which is also conspiracy theory - russian spy conspiracy which is also conspiracy theory lots - russian spy conspiracy which is also conspiracy theory lots of l also conspiracy theory lots of democrat _ also conspiracy theory lots of democrat supporters - also conspiracy theory lots of democrat supporters got - also conspiracy theory lots of. democrat supporters got quite hung _ democrat supporters got quite hung up — democrat supporters got quite hung up on — democrat supporters got quite hung up on for— democrat supporters got quite hung up on for a _ democrat supporters got quite hung up on for a while. - democrat supporters got quite hung up on for a while. now. hung up on for a while. now speaking _ hung up on for a while. now speaking to— hung up on for a while. now speaking to a _ hung up on for a while. now speaking to a guy— hung up on for a while. now speaking to a guy and - hung up on for a while. now speaking to a guy and he . hung up on for a while. now speaking to a guy and he isi speaking to a guy and he is trying — speaking to a guy and he is trying to— speaking to a guy and he is trying to make _

speaking to a guy and he is trying to make an- speaking to a guy and he is. trying to make an equivalent with— trying to make an equivalent with 0 — trying to make an equivalent with 0 anon— trying to make an equivalent with q anon in— trying to make an equivalent with q anon in this _ trying to make an equivalent with q anon in this russian i with q anon in this russian there — with q anon in this russian there wasn't— with q anon in this russian there wasn't any— with q anon in this russian there wasn't any truth, - with q anon in this russian there wasn't any truth, buti there wasn't any truth, but this— there wasn't any truth, but this cabal— there wasn't any truth, but this cabal of— there wasn't any truth, but this cabal of paedophiles . this cabal of paedophiles sisters— this cabal of paedophiles sisters complete - this cabal of paedophiles| sisters complete fantasy, right? _ sisters complete fantasy, right? and _ sisters complete fantasy, right? and he _ sisters complete fantasy, right? and he said, - sisters complete fantasy, right? and he said, if- sisters complete fantasy, i right? and he said, if you sisters complete fantasy, - right? and he said, if you ever heard — right? and he said, if you ever heard of— right? and he said, if you ever heard ofjeffrey_ right? and he said, if you ever heard ofjeffrey epstein? - right? and he said, if you ever heard ofjeffrey epstein? but ii heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i came — heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i came to — heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i came to believe _ heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i came to believe what - heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i came to believe what you - heard ofjeffrey epstein? but i| came to believe what you anon is if you — came to believe what you anon is if you take _ came to believe what you anon is if you take it— came to believe what you anon is if you take it to _ came to believe what you anon is if you take it to mean - came to believe what you anon is if you take it to mean that i is if you take it to mean that hillary— is if you take it to mean that hillary clinton _ is if you take it to mean that hillary clinton was literally. hillary clinton was literally running _ hillary clinton was literally running a _ hillary clinton was literally running a cabal— hillary clinton was literally running a cabal of- hillary clinton was literally running a cabal of satanici running a cabal of satanic paedophiles— running a cabal of satanic paedophiles out- running a cabal of satanic paedophiles out of- running a cabal of satanic paedophiles out of a - running a cabal of satanic| paedophiles out of a pizza restaurant _ paedophiles out of a pizza restaurant that— paedophiles out of a pizza restaurant that didn't - paedophiles out of a pizza| restaurant that didn't have paedophiles out of a pizza . restaurant that didn't have a basement— restaurant that didn't have a basement it _ restaurant that didn't have a basement it was _ restaurant that didn't have a basement it was supposed l restaurant that didn't have ai basement it was supposed to restaurant that didn't have a - basement it was supposed to be in the _ basement it was supposed to be in the basement _ basement it was supposed to be in the basement and _ basement it was supposed to be| in the basement and is complete nonsense~ — in the basement and is complete nonsense~ if— in the basement and is complete nonsense. if you _ in the basement and is complete nonsense. if you take _ in the basement and is complete nonsense. if you take you - in the basement and is complete nonsense. if you take you in - nonsense. if you take you in the — nonsense. if you take you in the basement— nonsense. if you take you in the basement is— nonsense. if you take you in the basement is complete . the basement is complete nonsense~ _ the basement is complete nonsense. if— the basement is complete nonsense. if you - the basement is complete nonsense. if you take - the basement is complete nonsense. if you take you| the basement is complete - nonsense. if you take you anon is a kind — nonsense. if you take you anon is a kind of— nonsense. if you take you anon is a kind of parable _ nonsense. if you take you anon is a kind of parable and - nonsense. if you take you anon is a kind of parable and people| is a kind of parable and people feel that — is a kind of parable and people feel that their— is a kind of parable and people feel that their unelected - feel that their unelected people _ feel that their unelected people that _ feel that their unelected people that are - feel that their unelected . people that are controlling their— people that are controlling their lives _ people that are controlling their lives in— people that are controlling their lives in a _ people that are controlling their lives in a changing i people that are controlling i their lives in a changing world and they— their lives in a changing world and they don't _ their lives in a changing world and they don't really- their lives in a changing world and they don't really know i their lives in a changing world i and they don't really know how it's changing _ and they don't really know how it's changing but _ and they don't really know how it's changing but they - and they don't really know how it's changing but they don't i it's changing but they don't make — it's changing but they don't make these _ it's changing but they don't make these changes - it's changing but they don't make these changes are i make these changes are happening _ make these changes are happening to _ make these changes are happening to their- make these changes are i happening to their benefit and a kind — happening to their benefit and a kind of— happening to their benefit and a kind of metaphor— happening to their benefit and a kind of metaphor that - happening to their benefit and a kind of metaphor that they. a kind of metaphor that they have — a kind of metaphor that they have the _ a kind of metaphor that they have the central— a kind of metaphor that they have the central core - a kind of metaphor that they have the central core of- a kind of metaphor that they| have the central core of truth and _ have the central core of truth and that— have the central core of truth and that is— have the central core of truth and that is why _ have the central core of truth and that is why people - have the central core of truth and that is why people seem | have the central core of truth i and that is why people seem so drawn— and that is why people seem so drawn to — and that is why people seem so drawn to what. _

and that is why people seem so drawn to what.— drawn to what. hasn't spread across the atlantic? - drawn to what. hasn't spread across the atlantic? isn't i drawn to what. hasn't spread across the atlantic? isn't in l across the atlantic? isn't in the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies _ the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies of— the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies of q _ the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies of q anon i the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies of q anon and| the uk, is it in europe? i did some studies of q anon and how it spread — some studies of q anon and how it spread in— some studies of q anon and how it spread in europe and a lot of influencers in europe as well— of influencers in europe as well and _ of influencers in europe as well and spread well beyond social— well and spread well beyond social media and infrastructure and information, there are websites and there's so much work— websites and there's so much work in — websites and there's so much work in the q anon theories and evidence — work in the q anon theories and evidence and data points and translating all of the looks and — translating all of the looks and languages in germany, france _ and languages in germany, france and italy and were they also _ france and italy and were they also did — france and italy and were they also did which is very interesting as take this narrative and the local political context and there was 'ust political context and there was just so— political context and there was just so much work and the thing that surprised me the most was

the amount of effort and work that 0 — the amount of effort and work that q anon influencer did in the interview with the station. is the interview with the station. is in— the interview with the station. is in the — the interview with the station. is in the uk? it the interview with the station. ls in the uk?— is in the uk? it is. i don't know. — is in the uk? it is. i don't know. l'm _ is in the uk? it is. i don't know, i'm not _ is in the uk? it is. i don't know, i'm not as - is in the uk? it is. i don't know, i'm not as much i is in the uk? it is. | don't i know, i'm not as much of an expert— know, i'm not as much of an expert on— know, i'm not as much of an expert on how— know, i'm not as much of an expert on how it _ know, i'm not as much of an expert on how it is— know, i'm not as much of an expert on how it is in- know, i'm not as much of an expert on how it is in the i know, i'm not as much of an expert on how it is in the ukj expert on how it is in the uk and— expert on how it is in the uk and europe _ expert on how it is in the uk and europe '— expert on how it is in the uk and europe. ithink- expert on how it is in the uk and europe. i think it - expert on how it is in the uk and europe. i think it is i and europe. i think it is strong _ and europe. i think it is strong in _ and europe. i think it is strong in germany- and europe. i think it is strong in germany and i and europe. i think it is| strong in germany and i and europe. i think it is - strong in germany and i think what — strong in germany and i think what they— strong in germany and i think what they said _ strong in germany and i think what they said about - strong in germany and i think what they said about the - strong in germany and i think. what they said about the amount of work_ what they said about the amount of work that_ what they said about the amount of work that people _ what they said about the amount of work that people put - what they said about the amount of work that people put in - what they said about the amount of work that people put in that. of work that people put in that is one — of work that people put in that is one of— of work that people put in that is one of the _ of work that people put in that is one of the things _ of work that people put in that is one of the things that - of work that people put in that is one of the things that has i is one of the things that has helped _ is one of the things that has helped to _ is one of the things that has helped to anon _ is one of the things that has helped to anon spread - is one of the things that has i helped to anon spread because it's a _ helped to anon spread because it's a participation _ helped to anon spread because it's a participation thing, - helped to anon spread because it's a participation thing, if - it's a participation thing, if you — it's a participation thing, if you reach— it's a participation thing, if you reach your— it's a participation thing, if| you reach your nonbeliever it's a participation thing, if - you reach your nonbeliever and notiust— you reach your nonbeliever and notiust a — you reach your nonbeliever and not just a passive _ you reach your nonbeliever and not just a passive recipient - you reach your nonbeliever and notjust a passive recipient of. notjust a passive recipient of secret— notjust a passive recipient of secret knowledge, _ notjust a passive recipient of secret knowledge, you - notjust a passive recipient of secret knowledge, you do- notjust a passive recipient of| secret knowledge, you do the research, _ secret knowledge, you do the research, you _ secret knowledge, you do the research, you scour— secret knowledge, you do the research, you scour the - research, you scour the internet _ research, you scour the internet for _ research, you scour the internet for clues - research, you scour the internet for clues you . research, you scour the - internet for clues you make connections _ internet for clues you make connections and _ internet for clues you make connections and you - internet for clues you make connections and you mighti internet for clues you make . connections and you might be internet for clues you make - connections and you might be a part of— connections and you might be a part of this _ connections and you might be a part of this wonderful— connections and you might be a i part of this wonderful movement that can — part of this wonderful movement that can save _ part of this wonderful movement that can save the _ part of this wonderful movement that can save the roof _ part of this wonderful movement that can save the roof in - part of this wonderful movement that can save the roof in this - that can save the roof in this overwhelming _ that can save the roof in this overwhelming evil. - that can save the roof in this overwhelming evil. be- that can save the roof in this overwhelming evil.— overwhelming evil. be put it like that, — overwhelming evil. be put it like that, it's _ overwhelming evil. be put it like that, it's sounds - overwhelming evil. be put it like that, it's sounds very i like that, it's sounds very compelling. i'm not suggesting anyonejoins it.

compelling. i'm not suggesting anyone joins it.— anyone joins it. indeed, i was speaking _ anyone joins it. indeed, i was speaking from _ anyone joins it. indeed, i was speaking from the _ anyone joins it. indeed, i was speaking from the point - anyone joins it. indeed, i was speaking from the point of i anyone joins it. indeed, iwasl speaking from the point of view of the _ speaking from the point of view of the 0 — speaking from the point of view of the 0 anon _ speaking from the point of view of the q anon lunatic. - speaking from the point of view of the q anon lunatic. do - speaking from the point of view of the q anon lunatic. do not i of the q anon lunatic. do not try this — of the q anon lunatic. do not try this at _ of the q anon lunatic. do not try this at home. _ of the q anon lunatic. do not try this at home.— try this at home. journals by the bbc broadcast _ try this at home. journals by the bbc broadcast in - try this at home. journals by the bbc broadcast in the i try this at home. journals by i the bbc broadcast in the coming storm and from the university of michigan school of information, thanks so much for coming on the media show. but now, going to turn to this row and the mayor in bristol that is been on this month. and a press conference and the mayor had just got back from a ted talk in canada and the reporter was keen to ask him about it. if you saw the irony of the type — if you saw the irony of the type of— if you saw the irony of the type of climate change and if you can _ type of climate change and if you can you soon, instead. would _ you can you soon, instead. would you think of the argument made _ would you think of the argument made here? _ would you think of the argument made here? i— would you think of the argument made here?— made here? i thought was interesting _ made here? i thought was interesting but _ made here? i thought was interesting but i _ made here? i thought was interesting but i just i made here? i thought was| interesting but ijust about the arm _ interesting but i 'ust about the arm. �*, interesting but i 'ust about the amt the arm. so, let's work through this. the arm. so, let's work through this- you _ the arm. so, let's work through this. you know _ the arm. so, let's work through this. you know the _ the arm. so, let's work through| this. you know the fundamental argument — this. you know the fundamental argument i _ this. you know the fundamental argument i made _ this. you know the fundamental argument i made for— this. you know the fundamental argument i made for this- this. you know the fundamental argument i made for this was? i argument i made for this was? at that — argument i made for this was? at that we _ argument i made for this was? at that we are _ argument i made for this was? at that we are asking - argument i made for this was? at that we are asking you i at that we are asking you questions. at that we are asking you questions— at that we are asking you cuestions. . , . . ,. questions. i was a transceiver on the same _

questions. i was a transceiver on the same ground. - questions. i was a transceiver on the same ground. that's i questions. i was a transceiver. on the same ground. that's the bristol mayor _ on the same ground. that's the bristol mayor in _ on the same ground. that's the bristol mayor in local _ bristol mayor in local democracy reporter known as an ldr. that exchange continued for a while remained intense in the press officer got involved. and on the topic.— and on the topic. alex, marriage _ and on the topic. alex, marriage is _ and on the topic. alex, marriage is ask - and on the topic. alex, marriage is ask your i and on the topic. alex, - marriage is ask your question, if i may. in terms of your role as an ldr. my understanding is, it would be to report and provide impartial coverage regarding the regular workings of the authorities and public sector bodies, i suppose my question is marvin was fully funded by ted. to attend this conference and so, i can quite understand what the role of ldr would be in asking those questions. that apparent suggestion from the press office of the local democracy reporter should be asking such questions of the mayor had to treat up in arms. newspapers and broadcasters in the bbc abelson said that they are

boycotting the bristol mayors press briefings in solidarity with the reporter who says they have been banned from attending them. with ms. martin, the editor at bristol 20 47 also going to take a look at the bigger picture of the story of a section of the green, and the local democracy reporter and tame site council and the journalist and the bureau of investigative journalism project and karen is the co—founder of pr company. welcome, all of you to the media show. 20 a7. what is your take on what happened between the mayor and the ldr and why did you decide tojoin? the mayor and the ldr and why did you decide tojoin7i the mayor and the ldr and why did you decide to join?- did you decide to 'oin? i think we all did you decide to join? i think we all appreciate, _ did you decide to join? i think we all appreciate, think i did you decide to join? i think we all appreciate, think you l did you decide to join? i think| we all appreciate, think you so much for having me on. we appreciate the necessity of journalists who asked if questions and the fact is that the mayor of bristol why he chose to fly to canada to give a a0 minute tech talk is a valid question in my opinion.

the issue here is that we don't want the city council or the mayors office to pick and choose which journalists should be able to ask questions at these fortnight press briefings. i these fortnight press briefings.— these fortnight press briefinus. , . ., briefings. i 'ust have to adhere — briefings. ijust have to adhere that _ briefings. ijust have to adhere that a _ briefings. ijust have to adhere that a bristol. briefings. ijust have to l adhere that a bristol city council spoke and give a statement which that is completely false that the local reporters have been banned in all media outlets are invited to the briefings there's been a long—standing mutual agreement between the mayors office and the bristol pulse and talking about personnel attending press conferences and they were ever announced in held an ldr would not be sent due to the narrow definition of their role as an impartial service saying that they never did go to these briefings. as to spring you in and the reporter covering the team site council, these kinds of difficulties with councils familiar to you?—

of difficulties with councils familiar to ou? �* familiar to you? adding extreme examle familiar to you? adding extreme example and _ familiar to you? adding extreme example and they _ familiar to you? adding extreme example and they don't - familiar to you? adding extreme example and they don't like i familiar to you? adding extreme example and they don't like to i example and they don't like to be criticised and a lot of the time, new stories are necessarily glowing in their praise of how they handle issues. and even basic things like plot holes, that's not a positive story for a counsel and we do have a lot of back—and—forth with a try and get you to potentially try to give your site first or try to get the council spent on something and to protect the reputation, that is not what we are hearing these local authorities. and people not not up authorities. and people not not up you might not know when ldr is. ., up you might not know when ldr is. . ., . . is. fill a void in democratic accountability _ is. fill a void in democratic accountability and - is. fill a void in democratic accountability and there's. is. fill a void in democratic| accountability and there's a decline in local news that is meant there aren't local government report is going to these council meetings and haven't been for several years in the scheme is up in 2018 to

address that. did in the scheme is up in 2018 to address that.— address that. did you find it easy to get _ address that. did you find it easy to get into _ address that. did you find it easy to get into the - address that. did you find it i easy to get into the meetings? we welcomed with open arms by councils? ., , _, . , councils? one of my councils did not welcome _ councils? one of my councils did not welcome me - councils? one of my councils did not welcome me with i councils? one of my councils i did not welcome me with open arms at all. they were very, i was personally offended, coming into getting a chair and having to sit in the room with them and discuss things they didn't think i had a place there at all stop by but they and? to let me in it sometimes had to give my own chair because they would put a desk where a chair out for me but she would think is a pretty basic courtesy to offer someone.— is a pretty basic courtesy to offer someone. back in the day, coverin: offer someone. back in the day, covering council _ offer someone. back in the day, covering council meetings i offer someone. back in the day, covering council meetings and l covering council meetings and all their glory with every time there held and just to bring you back, they have a point and this is the local democracy service was set up with a very narrow remit the idea that the report on things of the local newspaper said was often uneconomic to do so with council meetings and planning and registers that sort of thing. so, a press briefing by the mayorfor summary thing. so, a press briefing by the mayor for summary attended by a dozen merits, of the local

democracy reporters. its, by a dozen merits, of the local democracy reporters.- democracy reporters. a good . uestion democracy reporters. a good question a — democracy reporters. a good question a bristol— democracy reporters. a good question a bristol 20 - democracy reporters. a good question a bristol 20 47, i democracy reporters. a good question a bristol 20 a7, anl question a bristol 20 a7, an independent media company which was under— independent media company which was under resourced but we are not able — was under resourced but we are not able to— was under resourced but we are not able to attend every press briefing — not able to attend every press briefing ourselves and so, is an opportunity that we very much — an opportunity that we very much rely on the service that they— much rely on the service that they can _ much rely on the service that they can provide and there the hyper— they can provide and there the hyper local publications that bristol, _ hyper local publications that bristol, bristol has got a very truoyant— bristol, bristol has got a very buoyant media scene and below the surface, in print, there is his hyper— the surface, in print, there is his hyper local publications one — his hyper local publications one of— his hyper local publications one of the best things about the scheme is that the content is shared — the scheme is that the content is shared out between everyone from _ is shared out between everyone from bbc— is shared out between everyone from bbc news to online publications to these hyper tocat — publications to these hyper local publications and are going _ local publications and are going to be able to have a seat at the — going to be able to have a seat at the mayors briefings and that— at the mayors briefings and that is— at the mayors briefings and that is why the presence of ldr is so _ that is why the presence of ldr is so important. let that is why the presence of ldr is so important.— is so important. let me bring ou in. is so important. let me bring you in- it _ is so important. let me bring you in- itjust— is so important. let me bring you in. itjust didn't - is so important. let me bring you in. itjust didn't look i you in. itjust didn't look

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makes those trying to manage the communications and try. makes those trying to manage the communications and try to match— the communications and try to match that _ the communications and try to match that narrative, - the communications and try to match that narrative, them i the communications and try to i match that narrative, them look bad, _ match that narrative, them look bad, doesnt— match that narrative, them look bad, doesn't itmechanics - match that narrative, them look bad, doesn't itmechanics to i bad, doesn't itmechanics to took— bad, doesn't itmechanics to took tike _ bad, doesn't itmechanics to look like got _ bad, doesn't itmechanics to look like got something i bad, doesn't itmechanics to look like got something to. bad, doesn't itmechanics to i look like got something to hide and it's— look like got something to hide and it's something _ look like got something to hide and it's something that - look like got something to hide and it's something that the i and it's something that the media _ and it's something that the media train, _ and it's something that the media train, moving - 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the public and that is not the job — the public and that is not the job the _ the public and that is not the job. the job is to provide the most — job. the job is to provide the most possible information that paid for— most possible information that paid for by the public by you and — paid for by the public by you and me. _ paid for by the public by you and me, you picka paid for by the public by you and me, you pick a side and to do exactly— and me, you pick a side and to do exactly that, to foster a democratic local government and local services and i think we need — local services and i think we need a _ local services and i think we need a pretty fundamental reset to get— need a pretty fundamental reset to get back to that. the techniques _ to get back to that. the techniques to _ to get back to that. the techniques to be - to get back to that. the techniques to be used l to get back to that. the: techniques to be used to access that information? the techniques to be used to access that information?— that information? the first thin . that information? the first thing is. — that information? the first thing is. they _ that information? the first thing is, they would - that information? the first thing is, they would not i that information? the first - thing is, they would not answer the phone — thing is, they would not answer the phone answering e—mail because _ the phone answering e—mail because why would they. they are leveraging the power monopoly. they have a monopoly of their— monopoly. they have a monopoly of their local counsel and if they— of their local counsel and if they don't answer the e—mail or answer— they don't answer the e—mail or answer the _ they don't answer the e—mail or answer the phone, you often cannot— answer the phone, you often cannot run that story because you need _ cannot run that story because you need a response from them and you — you need a response from them and you can't go just by not picking up the phone or answering an e—mail. charlotte — phone or answering an e—mail. charlotte is _ phone or answering an e—mail. charlotte is nodding there, that's what's happening to you to? . that's what's happening to you to? , , ., ., ., that's what's happening to you to? , ., ., ., that's what's happening to you to? ., ., ., , to? yes you have to do this came to? yes you have to do this game were _ to? yes you have to do this game were if _ to? yes you have to do this

game were if you _ to? yes you have to do this game were if you don't - to? yes you have to do this game were if you don't get | game were if you don't get back to us, you did not respond to requests for comments and you'll look worse. and sometimes they're prepared to do that because he did by withholding, the keep or power that way it is incredibly frustrating, especially, it is possible to build up good working relationships and do back and forth in that way, you're more likely to pick up on the positive stuff in the opening of the school or something in giving it more coverage than you would if you got this really antagonistic relationship with them stop by but do you advise your journalist to do in the sort of situation. journalist to do in the sort of situation-— situation. this mix is very weak, situation. this mix is very weak. the _ situation. this mix is very weak, the job _ situation. this mix is very weak, the job is - situation. this mix is very weak, the job is to - situation. this mix is very weak, the job is to put. situation. this mix is very | weak, the job is to put out five — weak, the job is to put out five or— weak, the job is to put out five or ten or more stories a day— five or ten or more stories a day and _ five or ten or more stories a day and you don't have the time to keep — day and you don't have the time to keep going back and checking out and — to keep going back and checking out and going into the information and etc. but, i, my background is largely an broadcast and i am an advocate for putting up the questions you asked and the planned

statements to get back which doesn't — statements to get back which doesn't engage with the questions next to each other and — questions next to each other and so, _ questions next to each other and so, people can make up their— and so, people can make up their minds. that's another thing — their minds. that's another thing they do, they simply do not go — thing they do, they simply do not go to— thing they do, they simply do not go to the questions and you -et not go to the questions and you get a _ not go to the questions and you get a generic statement if you io get a generic statement if you go track— get a generic statement if you go back to them, they say, you had a _ go back to them, they say, you had a statement. the other thing — had a statement. the other thing is _ had a statement. the other thing is we need to be better with— thing is we need to be better with this _ thing is we need to be better with this empty chair and, treing— with this empty chair and, being aggressive about writing stories. — being aggressive about writing stories, if i had the opportunity to answer, or an opportunity to answer, or an opportunity to answer, running the stories, we should. find opportunity to answer, running the stories, we should. and the sole pr voice. _ the stories, we should. and the sole pr voice. do _ the stories, we should. and the sole pr voice. do you _ the stories, we should. and the sole pr voice. do you think- sole pr voice. do you think there's some blurred lines between publishing these and providing information to help local residents. what is your opinion about it?— opinion about it? they, like any brand — opinion about it? they, like any brand have _ opinion about it? they, like any brand have the - opinion about it? they, like any brand have the stories. opinion about it? they, like. any brand have the stories to promote and they want to, i suppose justify their actions and their spending to the public and, i think, they're

using it as a tool to benefit what they do. but maybe it's gone too far and it's about the whole exchange that it's very aggressive, very antagonistic and maybe that's not the best way to communicate. it doesn't lead to a listener or reviewer, or give them a very good flavour?— or give them a very good flavour? ., .,. ., ., , , flavour? your reaction was blue and made _ flavour? your reaction was blue and made them _ flavour? your reaction was blue and made them look _ flavour? your reaction was blue and made them look very - and made them look very thin—skinned and taking an incredibly personally. and thin-skinned and taking an incredibly personally. and i don't think— incredibly personally. and i don't think you _ incredibly personally. and i don't think you should - incredibly personally. and i don't think you should be l incredibly personally. and i | don't think you should be in journalism _ don't think you should be in journalism or— don't think you should be in journalism or incompetence don't think you should be in l journalism or incompetence if you're — journalism or incompetence if you're not— journalism or incompetence if you're not able _ journalism or incompetence if you're not able to _ journalism or incompetence if you're not able to deal with l you're not able to deal with criticism _ you're not able to deal with criticism or— you're not able to deal with criticism or answer- you're not able to deal with i criticism or answer questions property— criticism or answer questions property and _ criticism or answer questions properly and that _ criticism or answer questions properly and that also - criticism or answer questions. properly and that also extends to politicians _ properly and that also extends to politicians as _ properly and that also extends to politicians as well. - properly and that also extends to politicians as well. do - properly and that also extends to politicians as well.- to politicians as well. do you think you'll— to politicians as well. do you think you'll be _ to politicians as well. do you think you'll be back - to politicians as well. do you think you'll be back in - to politicians as well. do you think you'll be back in those | think you'll be back in those conversations? i'm not setting out to— conversations? i'm not setting out to be — conversations? i'm not setting out to be aggressive, want to find _ out to be aggressive, want to find a — out to be aggressive, want to find a positive and productive resolution to this and enable tocat— resolution to this and enable local democracy report is to -et local democracy report is to get back— local democracy report is to get back in those press conferences as soon as possible. conferences as soon as possible-— conferences as soon as possible. conferences as soon as ossible. ., ., �*, possible. thanks martin, that's all the time — possible. thanks martin, that's all the time you _ possible. thanks martin, that's all the time you have _ possible. thanks martin, that's all the time you have for - all the time you have for

today. we'll be back to the same time next week. thank you for watching. goodbye. hello. friday was another pretty unsubtle day with loads of showers around the heaviest across eastern parts of england and eastern scotland. a thunder cloud passing on the horizon here in aboyne in aberdeenshire. now, right now, we've got outbreaks of rain that are pushing northwards and eastwards. so it's turning increasingly wet with that rain band getting across from northern ireland into scotland, northern england, wales and the south west. it doesn't reach east anglia in the south east of england where it's a dry start to a saturday morning. these temperatures very similar

really to what we've seen over recent days. now heading deeper into saturday, this band of rain slowly pushes down towards east anglia in the south east of england, but probably not arriving until the evening time. so decent weather here. behind that, it's a day of sunshine and showers, the heaviest showers this time across northern scotland. that's probably where we'll see some thunderstorms. temperatures high teens in the west, low 205 in the east, just like it's been over recent days, really. beyond that, further showers are in the forecast, especially across north western areas. but towards the south, it becomes drier and a bit warmer.

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