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tv   The Interview  BBC News  July 2, 2022 10:45pm-11:00pm BST

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at the first major nato summit since russia's invasion of ukraine, leaders reminded the world of the purpose of this collective defence alliance. we have reaffirmed that our article flag commitment is sacred. and an attack on one is an attack on all, and we will defend every inch of nato territory. this was a historic summit. finland and sweden's accession will notjust increase nato�*s membership, but will also double the length of its border with russia. as ukraine appealed for more support, the alliance fundamentally shifted its response to russia and made a strong pledge. ukraine can count on us for as long as it takes. and for the first time in nato�*s history, the us military
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will have a permanent base in eastern europe. translation: here in poland, there will be a permanent - presence of the us army. the fifth army corps. i was able to speak to president andrzej duda at the nato summit in madrid. president andrzej duda, thank you so much for speaking to me exclusively here on the bbc at the nato summits. what are your thoughts about what is happening here at the nato summit? have you heard, are you satisfied with what you are hearing? she translates question. translation: first of all, i have to say this nato - summit is forsure of historical nature. because you can say the following.
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a green light was given during the summit for accepting into nato finland and sweden. this is an incredibly important piece of news for the entire alliance but especially for its eastern flank. because these are the cities of the baltic sea region, this is a very important piece of information for poland. this also will extend the broader between russia and the alliance. so, for sure, this is a historic decision. and the second very important issue, while these decisions which are being taken on response to the russian aggression against ukraine. this is a process which has been going on for some time, of course, but today nato is taking crucial decisions on strengthening nato�*s eastern flank. it is taking decisions on changing its approach to russia. let me remind you that according to the previous strategic concept of nato in 2010, russia was seen as a partner country
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to nato, and, of course, as a result of the invasion of ukraine, this has changed dramatically. today, russia is directly the biggest threat to nato states, especially to its eastern flank, the flank on which poland is located. and boosting nato in our part of the world, in our part of europe today is the element which is being discussed at length here. here, decisions are being taken, decisions which are reflected both in the new strategic concept of nato, which is being adopted today, but also it is reflected in the joint declaration which says that the countries in a special situation, those which are particularly involved in helping ukraine, can also count on certain special treatment. president zelensky, who has your mobile number, who calls you to talk, to give advice, should he be asking for ukraine tojoin nato? should he be pushing for that?
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she translations question. translation: first of all, we, poland, have been claiming - from the start, and we are always going to have this position, that the door to nato, just like the door to the european union, should remain open to those who want to accede to the north atlantic alliance. of course, certain conditions have to be fulfilled, but today, and i also stressed that in my speech which i gave in the forum of the heads of states and governments of nato, i stressed that the open door policy has to be maintained towards ukraine. of course, today there is a war in ukraine. today, nato is supporting ukraine and ukraine is not part of nato but ukraine has got the clear support of nato, very strong and very clear as a country whose democratic, independent, sovereign,
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and which was attacked without any reason and without anyjustification in a brutal way by russia. but are you frustrated that nato didn't heed your warnings? you have been warning about russia for a long time and it fell on deaf ears. are you not frustrated that it has come to this? she translates question. translation: i cannot say that i feel some kind of frustration. l i am happy that nato responds in an adequate way to what is happening east of poland. and let me put it in the following way. from my perspective, from the polish perspective, this response is satisfactory. today, we have got in poland nato troops deployed. today, we have 11,000 us troops in poland. today, we have got infrastructure in poland, and today, president biden announced that us presence will be transferred into permanent presence. the president stressed today
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that the first situation in which us presence is becoming a permanent presence is happening in poland through stationing in poland the fifth corps of command as the us army. so, i can say that i am satisfied because today we feel in a strong way that our security is being boosted. if i can speak about any kind of sad kind of satisfaction, when we were warning against russia, i will refer this more to the european union, not so much to nato, because we were speaking that there is a russian potential, in terms of the possible gas domination. we warned that building nord stream 1 or nord stream 2 gas pipelines, circumventing europe, poland, and also but also ukraine, slovakia, and other countries, means not only increased russian domination in terms of gas over the european union, but it also means a danger to some eu states, and a danger to central europe,
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to ukraine, for example. unfortunately, this has become a fact and reality in recent months. we weren't listened to and everybody can see in a very clear way what russian energy dominance means. poland has done so much for the refugees, so, so much, i saw it myself, the amount of refugees coming and being brought into polish homes. i wonder, are you worried about the safety of poland? do you think poland is at risk from russia? translation: potentially, you can i say, as for russian imperialism, i it is something that we have known in poland historically very well, and that is why we have adopted such a robust stance, that is why we have demanded support from nato to make sure that the polish people can feel safe and secure. but this is also why we are making decisions in poland to adopt a new law regulating the polish army, armed forces. this is the act on the defence of poland. we have increased our defence
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spending up to 3% of gdp in poland. that is why we are making purchases and we want to increase the number of troops in our armed forces in order to boost our deterrent potential. we want the polish armed forces to be so strong that it would not pay off to anyone to attack us. if we add to this nato support resulting from our membership of the alliance, we can be sure of our security because attacking such a strong state with such strong support would be madness, simply. and it would be doomed to misfortune. and this is what we are striving at in a consistent way, and we are consistently implementing our policy in this respect. president andrzej duda, thank you very much for speaking to us exclusively here on bbc world news. thank you so much for your time, i will let you get on, thank you so much. so, we just saw their president andrzej duda speaking about the support that poland is getting, that the union of nato, how important this is for poland, specifically.
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and he was saying about the sadness that he feels that they had been warning, poland was among those countries who had been warning about the risk of threat of russia for a long, long time, and it was falling on deaf ears. and, now, there is this sense that if only they had listened a little bit earlier, if only the international community had heeded what poland had been saying for a long time now. he even mentioned how at the summit the last time the strategic concept for nato was put together, the russian president was at the summit himself. it was president dmitry medvedev, he was at the summit, later was talking about partnerships with russia. and so that was kind of a sense of sadness that had the international community, had they listened to poland a little bit earlier, you hear that expressed by the president as he was here,
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as he is listening to what volodymyr zelensky has said to the delegations here, to the leaders here, president zelensky asking for more support, for more weapons, for more money, but also, the idea that all of the people, the millions of ukrainians that have been displaced, most of them going into countries, neighbouring countries, most of them coming into poland, it is the situation that the president is discussing here and is making sure that the rest of the nato alliance, the 30 members, soon to be 32, have an understanding of. president andrzej duda very much, like i was saying with him, mr zelensky does have his mobile number, they do talk, they met, president andrzej duda is one of those people that volodymyr zelensky will call up, they have a strong relationship. poland and ukraine historically have such a strong relationship, in terms of culture, in terms of history, in terms of language as well.
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so, it is very fascinating to hear him talk about how the warnings that poland had made had fallen on deaf ears previously, but he is happy to see a stronger nato, united nato, and that is exactly whatjens stoltenberg once from this summit. hello. pa rt part two of the weekend is looking unsettled as well. we will have more show us around. the wind is light in the south, quite breezy across northern areas. it is because we have got low pressure to the north of the uk, high pressure towards the south, and weak weather fronts crossing the country. these will enhance the shower activity. one such front will lie across central part of the uk through the morning, so rather cloudy with showery rain.
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sauntering across the south, showers, quick breeze across scotland and northern ireland. all areas will see sunshine and showers in the afternoon, there could be heavyin in the afternoon, there could be heavy in central and eastern areas. it could turn prior towards western areas noted in the day. temperature is 21 to 22 in the south and east, the mid—teens for the north. there could be a passing shower at wimbledon, but i think the emphasis will be on drier and sunnier weather, with light winds and a top temperature around 22. through sun did not looks like the show will fade away. lengthy skiers schools are scattered across england and wales. scotland and northern ireland was too breezy, with showers and rain. temperatures around nine to 12. monday, we start off with some sunshine across southern and eastern areas. so much i was developing into the afternoon. most of the showers across the north and west, and even some longer spells of rain at times in the north—west of scotland. temperatures again in the mid—teens
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in the north. we could see 22 or 23 across south—east england. this area of high pressure will continue to build on to the south—west, but around the top of it, it will feed and a lot of cloud to northern and western parts of the country. some cloud getting out into the south and east as well. maybe just one or two sugars, and top temperatures around 17 to 22. as you move deeper into the week, it looks like this era of high pressure will continue to influence our weather, pushing these weather fronts away. that will always be courage, with a chance of showers and a stronger breeze across the north and west of the uk for the rest of that week. you can see the cloudy skies across scotland and northern ireland the further south that you are, the better chance of staying dry. and it should start to turn warmer, perhaps reaching 26 on friday.
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