vote, but with a lower figure than teresa may, his predecessor. he still has teresa may, his predecessor. he: still has some support, teresa may, his predecessor. he still has some support, just to bring you the very latest, we hear from a couple of other cabinet ministers who are staying put, alisterjack, brandon lewis, both confirmed they are staying in their post. simon hart, the well secretary to come in a couple of otherjunior ministers, mark spencer and chris philip. this is not a complete collapse of the government for their several ministries, the majority can back to our billing at this point to stay in post and to help boris johnson tried to tough this out, but to answer your question about the mood in the party. it is not good. it's pretty grand, frankly, after what is that of a difficulty days with downing street's handling of the resignation of chris pincher, as deputy chief went on. he's had the whip taken away as well and suspended as a conservative mp over the last few days. downing street has to shift its position as new

allegations came to light, and as we reported this morning, the prime minister was indeed aware of a formal complaint against his former deputy chief whip, downing street had said that he wasn't. so that has been the tipping point for these cabinets resignations this evening, and while i don't know what conservative mps are going to make a bet, frankly, because they wear an 999 bet, frankly, because they wear an egg glum enough mood, most of them that we have encountered today before this news, and it will make things very difficult for than as they consider their future in the party and their positions this evening. party and their positions this evenina. g ., ., ., : ., ~ evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you — evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you from _ evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you from that _ evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you from that chair - evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you from that chair for - evening. 0k, jonathan blake, iwill release you from that chair for a i release you from that chair for a few minutes, thank you very much indeed. this is the scene live at downing street. reminisce prince johnson returned their 10—15 minutes ago. made no comments to reporters waiting outside, the prime minister now presumably discuss saying with his senior aides the next steps

forward. ourformer chief his senior aides the next steps forward. our former chief press officerfor number 10 downing street joins us now, what is your advice, if you are inside number ten with the prime minister now?- if you are inside number ten with the prime minister now? well, it's a very difficult — the prime minister now? well, it's a very difficult and _ the prime minister now? well, it's a very difficult and dangerous - very difficult and dangerous situation for him, there will be lots of scrambling around in terms of who is next. who can replace these big cabinet ministerial posts, particularly at a time when we are dealing with crisis are lots of people, and with an nhs backlog and rising covid cases, and i think that pool is getting smaller and smaller. i still think it's a difficult to see the prime minister going of his own volition, so there will be an attempt to try to show at people who have been loyal to him in his view and who have supported and then try to reward them with more senior positions around the cabinet table. so a state of triage, are we? we are standing the bleeding, we trying to

find out any other major operations are needed. are you really think they will try to appoint successor is soon, and the few hours? i think if ou is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want — is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want to _ is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want to try — is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want to try to _ is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want to try to show - is soon, and the few hours? i think if you want to try to show that - if you want to try to show that there is some semblance of government and business as usual and try to get on with the job and you will have heard a lot about that tax being made to mind of the domestic announcements that may now be brought forward, then a part of that will be you don't want to leave these two posts lingering for too long because it gives the impression that nobody wants these jobs and nobody wants to work with you and your government. whether it is successful or not is an entirely other question, and if there are other question, and if there are other ministries, and we see a bit of a domino effect, then the pressure will continue to build, so whatever number ten do want to matter because the pressure is so intense, and it's already quite a high bar. i think there will be even more challenging questions for the

prime minister rather than who sits around the cabinet table.— prime minister rather than who sits around the cabinet table. would you sta with around the cabinet table. would you stay with us — around the cabinet table. would you stay with us please, _ around the cabinet table. would you stay with us please, because - around the cabinet table. would you stay with us please, because i - around the cabinet table. would you j stay with us please, because i would like to turn now to lord hassell ten who joins us by like to turn now to lord hassell ten whojoins us by phone. you have lived through many political crisis and leadership crisis, what do you make of events today?— and leadership crisis, what do you make of events today? well, i think from the moment _ make of events today? well, i think from the moment that _ make of events today? well, i think from the moment that 148 - from the moment that 148 backbenchers voted against boris johnson — backbenchers voted against boris johnson and william hague as former leaders _ johnson and william hague as former leaders of— johnson and william hague as former leaders of the party called for him to go. _ leaders of the party called for him to go. the — leaders of the party called for him to go, the end was inevitable. but to go, the end was inevitable. but to my— to go, the end was inevitable. but to my sort — to go, the end was inevitable. but to my sort of experience over the last few _ to my sort of experience over the last few days has been a public event — last few days has been a public event i was in london this week, 12 people _ event i was in london this week, 12 people came up to me and asked what on earth _ people came up to me and asked what on earth was _ people came up to me and asked what on earth was going to happen. i've never— on earth was going to happen. i've never known anything like that. it was like _ never known anything like that. it was like a — never known anything like that. it was like a sort of oil about to burst. — was like a sort of oil about to burst, you know? you knew that

something — burst, you know? you knew that something dramatic was going to happen — something dramatic was going to ha en. : , something dramatic was going to hauen.: , , something dramatic was going to hauen. , ., happen. and yet, boris johnson for all his faults _ happen. and yet, boris johnson for all his faults and _ happen. and yet, boris johnson for all his faults and many _ happen. and yet, boris johnson for all his faults and many people - all his faults and many people publicly and privately would say he has a flight man on many levels is a winner, and that is the reason why the tory party to pick ten, and came back with an 80 seat majority. it is the tory party really about to turn on somebody who has won an election after so many years when other leaders didn't? the after so many years when other leaders didn't?— after so many years when other leaders didn't? the tory party has and is the most _ leaders didn't? the tory party has and is the most successful- and is the most successful democratic forests in politics. it has one — democratic forests in politics. it has one more elections over a longer period _ has one more elections over a longer period than— has one more elections over a longer period than any of their current political— period than any of their current political party. it has an instinct for survival, and they know that under— for survival, and they know that under boris they will not win the next _ under boris they will not win the next election. it's difficult to win under— next election. it's difficult to win under anybody, next election. it's difficult to win underanybody, but next election. it's difficult to win under anybody, but the real cancer

at the _ under anybody, but the real cancer at the heart — under anybody, but the real cancer at the heart of this dilemma is brexit — at the heart of this dilemma is brexit. and i coined the phrase, if boris goes. — brexit. and i coined the phrase, if boris goes, brexit goes, because this is— boris goes, brexit goes, because this is characteristic of the way boris _ this is characteristic of the way boris has — this is characteristic of the way boris has actually run his life, there — boris has actually run his life, there has— boris has actually run his life, there has always been a total indifference to the truth and a sense — indifference to the truth and a sense of— indifference to the truth and a sense of integrity, and the underlying dilemma facing this country— underlying dilemma facing this country at the heart of its economic dilemmas _ country at the heart of its economic dilemmas and therefore living standards is actually this momentous deal called _ standards is actually this momentous deal called brexit, which, of course, _ deal called brexit, which, of course, undermines britton's economy and our— course, undermines britton's economy and our standing in the world. this is the _ and our standing in the world. this is the problem for the tory party as they are _ is the problem for the tory party as they are going to have to shake themselves loose of the brexit lahet — themselves loose of the brexit label. otherwise they are going to see, as a site in the recent by election— see, as a site in the recent by election at— see, as a site in the recent by election at the lib dems are going to eat into— election at the lib dems are going to eat into their seats.— to eat into their seats. boris johnson. — to eat into their seats. boris johnson. as _ to eat into their seats. boris johnson, as we _ to eat into their seats. boris johnson, as we know, - to eat into their seats. boris johnson, as we know, was l to eat into their seats. he“ 3 johnson, as we know, was ambivalent about brexit. he wrote two letters,

supporting one and then one against i go back to my point. he won for the tory party a majority of 80. asked but you see you have made the point that— asked but you see you have made the point that he didn't really care either— point that he didn't really care either way which way it went, he voted _ either way which way it went, he voted for— either way which way it went, he voted for the two lessers in order to see _ voted for the two lessers in order to see which one suited the political— to see which one suited the political mood, and he chose the one that suited _ political mood, and he chose the one that suited the right—wing the conservative party in certain major national— conservative party in certain major national newspapers, and it did win. in national newspapers, and it did win. in the _ national newspapers, and it did win. in the first _ national newspapers, and it did win. in the first to say that, but how did he — in the first to say that, but how did he win? _ in the first to say that, but how did he win? on a pack of lies. it is those _ did he win? on a pack of lies. it is those lies— did he win? on a pack of lies. it is those lies that are now bearing in on the british people who realise that a _ on the british people who realise that a majority of the polls now clearly — that a majority of the polls now clearly recognise that leaving the european — clearly recognise that leaving the european union was a catastrophic mistake _ european union was a catastrophic mistake. :, , european union was a catastrophic mistake. . , ., mistake. certainly until today, bannister has _ mistake. certainly until today, bannister has always - mistake. certainly until today, bannister has always said - mistake. certainly until today, bannister has always said he l mistake. certainly untiltoday, - bannister has always said he would never be signed. the rules of the tory party mean that he wouldn't have to resign for a year after this no—confidence vote. what advice do

you think he will be getting with a number ten at the moment, and indeed in terms of precedents. he presumably could carry on, appoint a new chancellor, a any health secretary and carry on. that new chancellor, a any health secretary and carry on. at the house of commons — secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is _ secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is not _ secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is not going _ secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is not going to - secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is not going to let - secretary and carry on. at the house of commons is not going to let that l of commons is not going to let that happen _ of commons is not going to let that happen. in my view, there is going to he _ happen. in my view, there is going to he a _ happen. in my view, there is going to be a battle over next week, i think— to be a battle over next week, i think over— to be a battle over next week, i think over the reelection of the new 22 committee. there will be a slate of people _ 22 committee. there will be a slate of people standing without election who want _ of people standing without election who want to change the rules, and my guess— who want to change the rules, and my guess is— who want to change the rules, and my guess is they — who want to change the rules, and my guess is they will win. so the rules will he _ guess is they will win. so the rules will be changed, it will not require another— will be changed, it will not require another year, and the will be changed, it will not require anotheryear, and the members will be changed, it will not require another year, and the members of the house _ another year, and the members of the house of— another year, and the members of the house of commons have a very clear instinct— house of commons have a very clear instinct about their own survival and that — instinct about their own survival and that of their party, and they know— and that of their party, and they know perfectly well in the constituencies and in the conservative party particularly the atmosphere is toxic. you conservative party particularly the atmosphere is toxic.— conservative party particularly the atmosphere is toxic. you are never an advocate _ atmosphere is toxic. you are never an advocate for— atmosphere is toxic. you are never an advocate for boris _ atmosphere is toxic. you are never an advocate for boris johnson. - atmosphere is toxic. you are never an advocate for boris johnson. he l an advocate for borisjohnson. he holds very different views, as he

said, but brexit, and the arguments about that. in your view, was right man at baruch to lead the conservative party? i only ask you because of her many decades of speaking to a senior tories in my experience, people ruled him out, certainly 15—20 years ago as the wrong sort of character to lead the party. i wrong sort of character to lead the .a . ., wrong sort of character to lead the -a . . ., wrong sort of character to lead the party. i have time and again in ublic party. i have time and again in public said _ party. i have time and again in public said that _ party. i have time and again in public said that i _ party. i have time and again in public said that i know - party. i have time and again in public said that i know boris i party. i have time and again in i public said that i know boris well. he took— public said that i know boris well. he took over my constituency. i like and can— he took over my constituency. i like and can i_ he took over my constituency. i like and can i get— he took over my constituency. i like and can i get on well with him on a personal level, but that is often the case — personal level, but that is often the case with real rogues. they can be entertaining and good company, providing _ be entertaining and good company, providing you can live with the lack of integrity, and i think that as mayor— of integrity, and i think that as mayor of— of integrity, and i think that as mayor of london he did a good job for the _ mayor of london he did a good job for the conservative party, but your point _ for the conservative party, but your point is _ for the conservative party, but your point is the — for the conservative party, but your point is the crucial one about the two lessers. that showed to me a lack of _ two lessers. that showed to me a lack of integrity about the big issues, — lack of integrity about the big issues, and that as a prime minister you cannot — issues, and that as a prime minister you cannot escape. i mean, the idea that boris—

you cannot escape. i mean, the idea that borisjohnson has overturned the policy— that borisjohnson has overturned the policy that i have followed under — the policy that i have followed under conservative leaders from churchill — under conservative leaders from churchill is extraordinary. it is an absolute — churchill is extraordinary. it is an absolute abdication of national self—interest. absolute abdication of national self-interest.— self-interest. and for those supporters _ self-interest. and for those supporters of _ self-interest. and for those supporters of boris - self-interest. and for those supporters of boris johnson j self-interest. and for those i supporters of boris johnson of self-interest. and for those - supporters of boris johnson of whom supporters of borisjohnson of whom there are many, including cabinet secretaries, others cabinet secretaries, others cabinet secretaries who say they are not going to resign today who would say to you, the prime minister is having to you, the prime minister is having to deal with the cost—of—living crisis, the war in ukraine, all of the other issues, the economic and energy crisis as well, now is not the time to replace and will stop how would you answer that? well. the time to replace and will stop how would you answer that? well, the war in ukraine — how would you answer that? well, the war in ukraine will _ how would you answer that? well, the war in ukraine will not _ how would you answer that? well, the war in ukraine will not be _ war in ukraine will not be influenced by boris's position, the west— influenced by boris's position, the west will— influenced by boris's position, the west will supply equipment to an appropriate level and this country will play— appropriate level and this country will play as part whoever is

defending. on the cost—of—living crisis. _ defending. on the cost—of—living crisis, welcome of course, brexit is at the _ crisis, welcome of course, brexit is at the heart — crisis, welcome of course, brexit is at the heart of that. the pound has depreciated at the scale that it has _ depreciated at the scale that it has the — depreciated at the scale that it has. the cost of imports significantly increasing, and the shortages in many industries because a million _ shortages in many industries because a million people have gone home, again. _ a million people have gone home, again, aggravating the problems in the passport office, the health service — the passport office, the health service in— the passport office, the health service in many other areas. so brexit— service in many other areas. so brexit is— service in many other areas. so brexit is at— service in many other areas. so brexit is at the heart of the problem _ brexit is at the heart of the problem that domestically is affecting our economy. and your advice to the _ affecting our economy. and your advice to the prime _ affecting our economy. and your advice to the prime minister- affecting our economy. and your advice to the prime minister this evening as he consults his advisers and numberten? he evening as he consults his advisers and number ten?— and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry — and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry on _ and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry on if— and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry on if you - and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry on if you like - and number ten? he will go. my advice is carry on if you like and | advice is carry on if you like and make _ advice is carry on if you like and make a — advice is carry on if you like and make a great thing events, but he is finished _ make a great thing events, but he is finished. there is no way is going to survive — finished. there is no way is going to survive this.— to survive this. lord heselton, thank you _ to survive this. lord heselton, thank you very _ to survive this. lord heselton, thank you very much - to survive this. lord heselton, thank you very much indeed i to survive this. lord heselton,| thank you very much indeed for speaking to us here on the bbc news. lord heselton commenting on the resignation of the chancellor, rishi

sunak, and the health secretary, sajid javid. for the rest of ours on bbc world, a dramatic hour in westminster here in the centre of london with the resignation of two very senior cabinet positions for the prime minister, borisjohnson. we werejust speaking the prime minister, borisjohnson. we were just speaking to a former deputy prime minister, lord heseltine, somebody who challenged indeed a serving leader many decades ago. who now says that the prime minister is finished, following that vote of confidence in him a few weeks ago will stop let's go back to our communications director number ten. forgive me for taking our view is to lord heselton, but is that your view now, as lord heselton was saying, he is finished, he may klingon, but you don't come back from something like this. i klingon, but you don't come back from something like this.- from something like this. i think it's very difficult _ from something like this. i think it's very difficult to _ from something like this. i think it's very difficult to come - from something like this. i think it's very difficult to come back i it's very difficult to come back from something like this. there will be lots of attempts to try and

klingon and try to see what else can be done by the prime minister and we spend a lot of time in parliament meeting mps trying to shore up support, but with these two high—profile resignations, i think the sense would have been the longer that people in the cabinet remain in their positions, the more they are tainted by all of the self—inflicted wounds that we are seeing from number ten and from other parts of government, and if you have any aspiration of one day perhaps being aspiration of one day perhaps being a leader yourself, do you really want to be in that bracket? 0f a leader yourself, do you really want to be in that bracket? of this cabinet who didn't challenge and didn't try and change anything or change the behaviour of the prime minister, and it takes one person to make a start, and then you get a signal to mps that there could be other scenarios to play out, and you may see a much more in terms of domino effect in terms of other people following suit as well. imilieu people following suit as well. when the prime minister _ people following suit as well. when the prime minister was _ people following suit as well. when

the prime minister was being interviewed before these resignations today, he seemed to be suggesting that there was a misunderstanding between what the press office was saying about events of chris pincher and what other people were saying as well. is it fair to blame the messengerfor this? journalists obviously are rightly angry if they are not being told the truth, and they expect the press office or the communications office to be an interlock that can be trusted, or does this come from the top in terms of integrity and the top in terms of integrity and the ability to tell things straight? i don't think it's very fair to blame the people who work at number ten in the press office who cannot publicly come out and defend themselves can i spent four years working there, and often if you don't have the answer to something can he ask the people who were there at the time, so you ask people close to the prime minister, sometimes he

asked the prime minister himself or herself in terms of finding out the answers. the press office wouldn't just be coming up with answers by themselves. and if there is something that has been miscommunicated, of course, that can happen, and you correct it straight you don't wait two days, three days, for the stranger in and then come back and say connected to me that wasn't the case. i think the sad reality is that we have seen this from number ten before, when you look back at things like party gate, we were told there were no parties on a nothing to see here, and actually here we are, so when this keeps on happening, it's really hard to see this just as a one—off mistake, which of course can happen in any organisation, and see more of the pattern are more deliberate attempts to not be as transparent as you could be. and if you are dealing with media, that is yourjob, to talk to lobby journalists,

with media, that is yourjob, to talk to lobbyjournalists, other journalists every day from a trust is essential. people have to be able to trust what you're saying even if you don't agree on the issue, you have to have that basic trust. thank ou. you're watching bbc news with me, tim wilcox. the prime minister is in downing street as he works out how to deal with this major political blow. ministers including liz truss and ben wallace say they will stand by the prime minister. the resignation came after the prime minister admitted he was aware of an allegation against the mp chris pincher after days of denials. i wish that i had acted on it and he had not continued, because he then

went on, i'm afraid, to behave. this is a picture — went on, i'm afraid, to behave. this is a picture of _ went on, i'm afraid, to behave. this is a picture of the _ went on, i'm afraid, to behave. this is a picture of the dean dories leaving number ten. is a picture of the dean dories leaving numberten. —— nadine dorris. she has not made any comment to a growing gaggle of reporters hello and welcome to bbc news. two of the government's most senior visitors have resigned in the past hour. —— ministers. plunging the government into another major crisis. rishi sunak, the chancellor, and sajid javid, the health secretary, both quit. it comes after

borisjohnson admitted that he knew there had been previous official. the prime minister said he bitterly regretted the mistake. we saw the prime minister returning to downing street in the past few minutes. journalists gathered outside. he's now back inside number ten with his advisers. paul is the most dramatic —— follows the most dramatic hour for number ten. both outlined their reasons for resigning in both written to the prime minister to

explain. sajid javid said... he added... rishi sunak, the x chancellor, tweeted... let's just take you back to downing street. we'vejust let's just take you back to downing street. we've just seen let's just take you back to downing street. we'vejust seen nadine dorries leave in the last half an hour or so.

dorries leave in the last half an hour orso. no dorries leave in the last half an hour or so. no movement since then. as we pointed out, ben wallace and liz truss have both said they will not resigning. liz truss's spokesman said that she was 100% behind the prime minister. ben wallace, the defence secretary, said that he would not be resigning. nonetheless, a hugely important evening for the prime minister and for the tory party. the prime minister recently won a confidence vote in the palace of westminster, but a significant factor voted against him. more people voted against his leadership than they did for theresa may seven months after that confidence vote, she was no longer in office. boris johnson went on to win an 80 seat

majority for the tory party. let's speak to andrew pridgen, the conservative backbencher who joins us now live. what's left for the prime minister now?— us now live. what's left for the prime minister now? well, he should do what he should _ prime minister now? well, he should do what he should have _ prime minister now? well, he should do what he should have some - prime minister now? well, he should do what he should have some time i prime minister now? well, he should i do what he should have some time ago and resigned. if he doesn't do that, the party will have to force him out. ideally, ithink the party will have to force him out. ideally, i think other members of the cabinet should resign and make their position clear to the prime minister that if that doesn't happen, it will come down to the elections to the 1922 committee. i believe the mood of the party, we will elect an executive willing to change the rules. i confidently predict that boris johnson change the rules. i confidently predict that borisjohnson one way or another will be removed before summer recess. or another will be removed before summer recess-— or another will be removed before summer recess. what was the tipping oint in summer recess. what was the tipping point in your— summer recess. what was the tipping point in your view— summer recess. what was the tipping point in your view for _ summer recess. what was the tipping point in your view for sajid _ summer recess. what was the tipping point in your view for sajid javid - point in your view for sajid javid and rishi sunak, given how many

problems there have been for the prime minister? i problems there have been for the prime minister?— problems there have been for the prime minister? i think it's a straw that broke the _ prime minister? i think it's a straw that broke the camel's _ prime minister? i think it's a straw that broke the camel's back, - that broke the camel's back, watching junior ministers pushed out at the weekend to defend boris johnson's lying on chris pincher, that he wasn't aware of anything about his crown —— borisjohnson's line. it's clear that wasn't true. the truth had to be dragged out of borisjohnson it again. i think that was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. these ministers are only getting to where myself and are only getting to where myself and a large trunk i would say have got, if not months ago, borisjohnson was an accidental threat —— a large chunk. an accidental threat -- a large chunk. , �* , ., , ., ,

chunk. isn't usually factored in his colourful life, _ chunk. isn't usually factored in his colourful life, other— chunk. isn't usually factored in his colourful life, other problems - chunk. isn't usually factored in his colourful life, other problems that would destroy most of the political careers, and he's a man who won big? he's a great campaigner, but he's never been under the spotlight that he would've been as prime minister. i backed him for the leadership. i thought he would have very good people around him who could make up for some of his failings and hold him up to a higher standard. it would appear that he's corrupted those around him in number ten. that's not tenable, that's not the sort of prime minister i want to follow, and he's got to go. his time is done. he should've left... i think it was injanuary that is done. he should've left... i think it was in january that we is done. he should've left... i think it was injanuary that we end “p think it was injanuary that we end up here, and if borisjohnson had bowed out injanuary, there would be no police investigation. he would've gone with a modicum of residual affection of brexit and getting us through covid, now if he doesn't go, we have to throw him out. it's all very sad, but it's got to be done

for the good of the country, for our parliament, our democracy and for the conservative party. you parliament, our democracy and for the conservative party.— the conservative party. you don't seak for the conservative party. you don't speak for everyone _ the conservative party. you don't speak for everyone in _ the conservative party. you don't speak for everyone in the - the conservative party. you don't speak for everyone in the party, l the conservative party. you don't i speak for everyone in the party, do speakfor everyone in the party, do you? how much support does he have? will this lead to another civil war. his support was shown at the confidence motion four weeks ago, that we've had two by—elections that dented his support, and there was a lot of buyers�* remorse for those mps. 0n lot of buyers�* remorse for those mps. on top of that, we�*ve had chris pincher debacle and the way the prime minister handle that. why did he appoint him? covering up for the fact that he knew a lot more about his background than he was letting on. it�*sjust untenable his background than he was letting on. it�*s just untenable and we can�*t carry on like this. even staunch conservatives in my seat who have supported me for many years and many

election, they won�*t vote labour or live damn, they�*re just it is engaging with politics. —— live —— liberal democrats. that�*s not tenable and he got ago. sets liberal democrats. that's not tenable and he got ago. as someone who supported _ tenable and he got ago. as someone who supported him, _ tenable and he got ago. as someone who supported him, it— tenable and he got ago. as someone who supported him, it sounds - tenable and he got ago. as someone who supported him, it sounds like i who supported him, it sounds like you were aware of his problems. do you were aware of his problems. do you think you�*ve serve your constituents well in doing that, bearing in mind you thought some of theseissues bearing in mind you thought some of these issues would ultimately destroy him? iskate these issues would ultimately destroy him?— these issues would ultimately destro him? ., ., ., ., destroy him? we had to have someone who would get — destroy him? we had to have someone who would get us _ destroy him? we had to have someone who would get us out _ destroy him? we had to have someone who would get us out of— destroy him? we had to have someone who would get us out of the _ destroy him? we had to have someone who would get us out of the european. who would get us out of the european union and break that deadlock. there was no alternative at the time, and borisjohnson did deliver. he�*s got us through the pandemic, but the way he�*s conducted himself during that in numberten, as i he�*s conducted himself during that in number ten, as i said at the time, he was making laws that the

vast majority of the public in my constituency were abiding by not abiding by themselves. number ten also used relentless fear, which has been very bad for the mental health of the wider population, particularly our children, to force people to force compliance with draconian measures and losses of freedoms, which number ten and the people working there weren�*t worried about at all because they were having parties and not taking precautions. i can�*t forgive him for that. those scars, specifically on our young people, will be born for many years, and that was completely unnecessary. i didn�*t vote for any of that. unnecessary. i didn't vote for any of that. g , ., , . of that. just on the chris pincher allegations- _ of that. just on the chris pincher allegations. the _ of that. just on the chris pincher allegations. the fact _ of that. just on the chris pincher allegations. the fact that - of that. just on the chris pincherl allegations. the fact that beaking on borisjohnson�*s behalf, saying he had never been notified. it took a very senior foreign office minister to stay in effect the prime minister

had not told the truth, had lied. now, is that something, you think, the prime minister needs to explain even more now? chris mason was... he couldn�*t remember all the issues, he�*s very busy, but is that excuse enough? he's very busy, but is that excuse enou~h? . . he's very busy, but is that excuse enou~h? ., . . enough? not at all. the prime minister is _ enough? not at all. the prime minister is not _ enough? not at all. the prime minister is not on _ enough? not at all. the prime minister is not on his - enough? not at all. the prime minister is not on his own. i enough? not at all. the prime i minister is not on his own. before he puts out a briefing, that�*s a by many people. it wasn�*tjust he puts out a briefing, that�*s a by many people. it wasn�*t just the prime minister that has amnesia about what he knew about chris pincher and it wasn�*t just the about what he knew about chris pincher and it wasn�*tjust the prime minister who was responsible. that just isn�*t going to wash and it wasn�*t washing with the cabinet either. wasn't washing with the cabinet either. , , ., ., ., , ., either. just one final thought, you sa the either. just one final thought, you say the 1922 _ either. just one final thought, you say the 1922 committee _ either. just one final thought, you say the 1922 committee positions| either. just one final thought, you i say the 1922 committee positions are up say the 1922 committee positions are up for reelection. is it this week or next week?— or next week? the 22 will meet tomorrow _ or next week? the 22 will meet tomorrow afternoon, _ or next week? the 22 will meet tomorrow afternoon, and i i or next week? the 22 will meet i tomorrow afternoon, and i believe

the announcement will be at five o�*clock to the wider party of the timing for nominations and vote. i wouldn�*t be surprised if nominations don�*t open tomorrow and the vote will probably be next wednesday. there will be plenty of time for the new committee to be constituted, meet and, if necessary, change the rules regarding confidence both within one year.— within one year. following your thinkin: within one year. following your thinking if _ within one year. following your thinking if the _ within one year. following your thinking if the party _ within one year. following your thinking if the party is - within one year. following your i thinking if the party is determined to move him out, what timeframe would that be? for your constituents and for other tory voters, the damage and upheaval this would cause midterm. what are your thoughts about that?— midterm. what are your thoughts about that? �* , ., , about that? there's no better time to net rid about that? there's no better time to get rid of— about that? there's no better time to get rid of boris _ about that? there's no better time to get rid of boris johnson. - about that? there's no better time to get rid of boris johnson. we i about that? there's no better time | to get rid of boris johnson. we have to get rid of borisjohnson. we have summer recess in less than two weeks, and that�*s when we should be having our leadership election. clearly, the party we have as a system in place to elect a new

leader which involves the parliamentary party. we need to get it right. we need to get back to the conservative policies run by someone with integrity and leadership. leadership, courage, you think the party will not courage, you think the party will rrot forgive _ courage, you think the party will not forgive those _ courage, you think the party will not forgive those who _ courage, you think the party will not forgive those who stick i courage, you think the party will| not forgive those who stick those but... ., , ., , not forgive those who stick those but... ., , ., ., , but... those who sit on their hands now and are _ but... those who sit on their hands now and are not _ but... those who sit on their hands now and are not showing _ but... those who sit on their hands i now and are not showing leadership, i think they can rule themselves out. : �* :, .,

i think they can rule themselves out. : �* ., ,, , ., i think they can rule themselves out. : �* ., ,, y., ., out. andrew bridgen, thank you for “oininr us out. andrew bridgen, thank you for joining us on _ out. andrew bridgen, thank you for joining us on bbc— out. andrew bridgen, thank you for joining us on bbc news. _ out. andrew bridgen, thank you for joining us on bbc news. let's i out. andrew bridgen, thank you for joining us on bbc news. let's talk. joining us on bbc news. let�*s talk to the editor of open media and political correspondent for the independent. what do you make of events? it�*s independent. what do you make of events? �* , :, independent. what do you make of events? �*, ., , , independent. what do you make of events? �*, ., , ,., ., , , events? it's a coup, is a leadership context, contests, _ events? it's a coup, is a leadership context, contests, it's— events? it's a coup, is a leadership context, contests, it's as _ events? it's a coup, is a leadership context, contests, it's as excited i context, contests, it�*s as excited of any khalil know my political media gets. —— any political media. this is our 0scars, if you like. the this is our oscars, if you like. the oscars? not— this is our oscars, if you like. the oscars? not only _ this is our oscars, if you like. the oscars? not only involves somebody winning! —— normally. i�*m oscars? not only involves somebody winning! -- normally.— winning! -- normally. i'm listening to andrew — winning! -- normally. i'm listening to andrew bridgen _ winning! -- normally. i'm listening to andrew bridgen using _ winning! -- normally. i'm listening to andrew bridgen using the i winning! -- normally. i'm listening| to andrew bridgen using the phrase we can�*t carry on like this. that particular phrase is never applied to borisjohnson at any time in his career. so, why now? iassume

to borisjohnson at any time in his career. so, why now? i assume that now is because we are not that far away from the conference season. we could see a new leader of the conservative party anointed at the conservative party anointed at the conservative conference, and i think what they�*re seeing now is the beginning of an election campaign that lots of people knew was coming. they would say this would be a futile act of regicide. that would onl be futile act of regicide. that would only be on _ futile act of regicide. that would only be on the — futile act of regicide. that would only be on the assumption i futile act of regicide. that would only be on the assumption that. futile act of regicide. that would i only be on the assumption that boris johnson was a safe and secure prime minister. he has not been a safe and severe prime minister for some time. 0k, thank you very much indeed. let�*s speak now to see former conservative political adviser, peter cardwell, who is also a talk

radio political editor. did you have any idea that sajid javid and rishi sunak would do this?— any idea that sajid javid and rishi sunak would do this? know, but i'm not sunak would do this? know, but i'm rrot surprised _ sunak would do this? know, but i'm not surprised it _ sunak would do this? know, but i'm not surprised it happened. - sunak would do this? know, but i'm not surprised it happened. just i sunak would do this? know, but i'm not surprised it happened. just as i not surprised it happened. just as soon as borisjohnson�*s apologising profusely for what seems to be being found out rather than what he has said and is changing, then we had sajid javid and rishi sunak resigning. they�*ve been friends for a long time. they are political... it's a long time. they are political... it�*s interesting they�*ve chosen to resign together. this is a huge crisis for the prime minister and i think andrew bridgen, the mv, was correct when he said anybody in the cabinet who doesn�*t resign is certainly somebody who will be seen as part of his administration in a

way that others who run will not. is there any way through this for the prime minister? i there any way through this for the prime minister?— prime minister? ! would be very surprised if— prime minister? i would be very surprised if he _ prime minister? i would be very surprised if he survived. - prime minister? i would be very surprised if he survived. if i prime minister? i would be very i surprised if he survived. if anyone can, it�*s borisjohnson. my instinct is... can, it's borisjohnson. my instinct is... ,, ,, : is. . . crosstalk peter. _ is. . . crosstalk peter, in - is. . . crosstalk peter, in terms | is. . . crosstalk | peter, in terms of is. . . crosstalk - peter, in terms of the is. . . crosstalk _ peter, in terms of the rules, how much longer can it be for the party to carry on like this without changing things, or could that be handed over at summer recess? ih handed over at summer recess? in theory, it can, but the hr process is in terms of confidence in the prime minister or any leader of the conservative party, are considered not fit for purpose. it will be interesting to see tomorrow, the

prime minister�*s liaison committee of chairs who come to better inform a super committee —— come together. this will dominate that as well for probably an hour or two. i think he will be very public, very exposed, and there is the opening of the elections to the backbench 19 committee. —— 1922. a lot of anti—boris candidates are running for that. anti—boris candidates are running forthat. i anti—boris candidates are running for that. i think those will be a real worry for borisjohnson. could real worry for boris johnson. could change the rule real worry for borisjohnson. could change the rule in terms of confidence votes. even though we�*re hearing from ministers such as priti patel and quasi—court saying that they are supporting the prime minister, there will be people who say to boris johnson, minister, there will be people who say to borisjohnson, shirley is time is up —— say to borisjohnson, shirley is time is up -- quasi quarteng. i think rishi sunak might have made

that decision for the prime minister. that decision for the prime minister-— that decision for the prime minister. . ., ~ that decision for the prime minister. . ., ,, , ., minister. peter cardwell, thank you ve much minister. peter cardwell, thank you very much indeed. _ minister. peter cardwell, thank you very much indeed. nadine - minister. peter cardwell, thank you very much indeed. nadine dorries i minister. peter cardwell, thank you i very much indeed. nadine dorries has given her backing to the prime minister. those are comments there. let�*s get an up update from jonathan blake. what�*s the latest? $5 let's get an up update from jonathan blake. what's the latest?— blake. what's the latest? as he ointed blake. what's the latest? as he pointed out. — blake. what's the latest? as he pointed out, nadine _ blake. what's the latest? as he pointed out, nadine dorries i blake. what's the latest? is ie pointed out, nadine dorries staying put, no surprise there. she is about the most loyal minister to boris johnson. we are still waiting to hearfrom some key johnson. we are still waiting to hear from some key figures. johnson. we are still waiting to hearfrom some key figures. the education secretary, probably most significantly among them, seen as a possible challenger to boris johnson. we haven�*t heard from him yet, but otherwise, it does seem most other figures are this evening being put. michael goes, we have

heard, will stay in post as well as the foreign secretary, liz truss —— michael gove. as these resignations have happened by the chancellor and the health secretary, boris johnson�*s critics have seized this moment to call for more to follow, and to try and press home. as far as they see it, this is the moment for borisjohnson, things really are over. mark harper, the former chief whip, who has been a starch critic on the prime minister, said these decisions made by honourable men, it is time for a fresh dart. we have also heard similarfrom ruth davidson, former scottish conservative leader, john penrose, angela richardson and tobias ellwood, tim knowlton and others. i think things are hanging in the

balance of the moment. 0ne cabinet minister is bad news, two is terrible news, but if it stops at that, maybe with a handful ofjunior ministers loyal to both of those, and who have been waiting for an excuse or a trigger to leave the government, then perhaps boris johnson can survive this. but there is no doubt that this is a moment of acute political pressure and acute danger for borisjohnson and his premiership. it will be incredibly difficult for him to continue and to command the confidence of his party, and of course, the wider support of conservative party voters. given that his leadership and his authority has been badly damaged this evening by the resignations of two key seniorfigures in this evening by the resignations of two key senior figures in the cabinet, sajid javid and rishi sunak. we are yet to hear from the

prime minister either in response to those recommendations with the exchange of letters we�*ve seen when ministers resign. maybe we�*ll hear from the prime minister later on tonight, but i think there are enough now seniorfigures tonight, but i think there are enough now senior figures confirmed in the cabinet that they are staying put that this is not going to be the complete collapse of borisjohnson�*s administration here and now. but maybe it is the beginning of the end for the prime minister, and maybe this is what has been, as for some people see it, coming for some time in the slow unraveling of a leadership and a government which has looks to be on rocky, uncertain ground for some time now. jonathan blake, ground for some time now. jonathan blake. thank — ground for some time now. jonathan blake. thank you _ ground for some time now. jonathan blake, thank you very _ ground for some time now. jonathan blake, thank you very much. - ground for some time now. jonathan blake, thank you very much. let's i blake, thank you very much. let�*s speak to henry hill, deputy editor of conservative home can he survive this? i

of conservative home can he survive this? ., of conservative home can he survive this? . .., of conservative home can he survive this? . .. �* , this? i mean, he can. there's nothin: this? i mean, he can. there's nothing that _ this? i mean, he can. there's nothing that in _ this? i mean, he can. there's nothing that in terms - this? i mean, he can. there's nothing that in terms of- this? i mean, he can. there's nothing that in terms of the i this? i mean, he can. there's i nothing that in terms of the role that perils his premiership. it will be challenging to do so. he will have to replace two senior members. but the real danger is conservative backbenchers. there are elections coming up. i suspect it will be ultimately up to them whether or not they choose to change the rules, allow a second vote, and then it will be up to them whether or not they choose to back him. haifa will be up to them whether or not they choose to back him. how toxic is the mood — they choose to back him. how toxic is the mood against _ they choose to back him. how toxic is the mood against the _ they choose to back him. how toxic is the mood against the prime i is the mood against the prime minister at the moment? well, he has certainl a minister at the moment? well, he has certainly a hard-core _ minister at the moment? well, he has certainly a hard-core support - certainly a hard—core support amongst the conservative grassroots. that�*s still reflected in conservative home�*s surveys, but

thatis conservative home�*s surveys, but that is a mounting sense of frustration amongst the party that evenif frustration amongst the party that even if you wish borisjohnson the best, this is a government with a historic conservative majority. we are now two years out from a general election. activists want to see that use. we�*re not releasing that done, and we haven�*t got an ambitious agenda. the government is simply lurching from crisis to crisis, and i think regardless, that fact of nondelivery is the thing that�*s really getting everybody incredibly angry. i really getting everybody incredibly an: . , really getting everybody incredibly an. _ , ., really getting everybody incredibly an: . , ., ., really getting everybody incredibly ant. , ., ., ., ., angry. i 'ust heard that cameron norrie angry. ijust heard that cameron norrie has _ angry. ijust heard that cameron norrie has got _ angry. ijust heard that cameron norrie has got through - angry. ijust heard that cameron norrie has got through to i angry. ijust heard that cameron norrie has got through to the i norrie has got through to the semifinals at wendell then, and borisjohnson was this political winner —— at wimbledon. he was a man who had that enthusiasm and energy to get things done. did that mean a lot of his supporters really turned

a blind eye to this question mark over was he always telling the truth 100% about something or was he not a detailed man, but it was his drive and passion which made him so attractive?— and passion which made him so attractive? . attractive? boris johnson was chosen as leader because _ attractive? boris johnson was chosen as leader because he _ attractive? boris johnson was chosen as leader because he was _ attractive? boris johnson was chosen as leader because he was probably i as leader because he was probably one of the only people who could win a majority. that�*s never been a secret. i think the hope for many people who voted for him was that he would nonetheless choose a strong cabinet, employee the right advisers and act as a chairman, steering the and act as a chairman, steering the a government of powerful ministers. sorry, that was my phone. instead, there�*s been zero delivery. he�*s won this majority and do nothing with it. you always... eventually every

party loses office. the thing that puts you in the books is what have you done with your time and power. i think lots of tory mps are looking ahead, thinking two years isn�*t that long. the answer is, what have we done, and i don�*t know. long. the answer is, what have we done, and i don't know.— done, and i don't know. thank you very much indeed _ done, and i don't know. thank you very much indeed for— done, and i don't know. thank you very much indeed forjoining i done, and i don't know. thank you very much indeed forjoining us i very much indeed forjoining us on bbc news. let�*s speak to anne whitaker. can or should the prime minister survive? whitaker. can or should the prime ministersurvive? i whitaker. can or should the prime minister survive?— minister survive? i think it's not auoin to minister survive? i think it's not going to be _ minister survive? i think it's not going to be immensely - minister survive? i think it's not going to be immensely difficult | minister survive? i think it's not i going to be immensely difficult for him to survive. he�*s lost two very seniorfigures. it looks him to survive. he�*s lost two very senior figures. it looks a weak position to be in. now, he�*s boris, he�*s got plenty of charisma. he might be able to survive, but he will frankly need the imagination of houdini, and he�*s got to have more

than that. he�*s got to be able to offer something that makes it worth his surviving. i have been saying to the tory party, get behind him. but if something will happen, it will happen quickly, otherwise they must stick with him. they can decide to get behind him or he can decide to 90. get behind him or he can decide to go, but i think that is unlikely. i think he�*d be dragged kicking and screaming. $5 think he'd be dragged kicking and screaminu. : , ., think he'd be dragged kicking and screaminu. ~ , ., ., ., �* screaming. as someone who got brexit done, screaming. as someone who got brexit done. doctor— screaming. as someone who got brexit done. doctor the _ screaming. as someone who got brexit done, doctor the pandemic, _ screaming. as someone who got brexit done, doctor the pandemic, in - screaming. as someone who got brexit done, doctor the pandemic, in a i done, doctorthe pandemic, in a world beating passion —— got through the pandemic, should the party support him? all the problems he has at the moment comes to personal integrity and what is said publicly and how much veracity there is and what he says often about things

which don�*t seem that important to all wider electric stub though i think that is the point. amongst the thins think that is the point. amongst the things you've _ think that is the point. amongst the things you've listed, _ think that is the point. amongst the things you've listed, you _ think that is the point. amongst the things you've listed, you could i think that is the point. amongst the things you've listed, you could have j things you�*ve listed, you could have added also the huge standing on the world stage. president zelensky will be praying he doesn�*t go. so, yes, he�*s got a morning —— enormous passes, but what he lacks is any grip. he didn�*t get a grip of the situation, he didn�*t see the danger, he doesn�*t see the train coming down the track. therefore, there is this infraction amongst the country and amongst conservative mps that downing street doesn�*t know what it�*s doing. i5 downing street doesn't know what it's doinu. , , ., , it's doing. is it grip or is it integrity? _ it's doing. is it grip or is it integrity? i _ it's doing. is it grip or is it integrity? i don't - it's doing. is it grip or is it integrity? i don't think i it's doing. is it grip or is it integrity? i don't think he | integrity? i don't think he deliberately _ integrity? i don't think he deliberately lies, - integrity? i don't think he deliberately lies, but i i

integrity? i don't think he i deliberately lies, but i think integrity? i don't think he - deliberately lies, but i think he's deliberately lies, but i think he�*s all over the place. i don�*t think he thinks before he speaks or checks up on it, he doesn�*t seem to do that. i actually buy into the fact that when he stood up in the parliament, there weren�*t any parties, but he believed that... but if he thought about it before, when i talk about liking grip, there needs to be somebody in downing street, somebody calm, sensible, who will say to him let�*s just look at the situation and see what it is before we react. nobody is doing that. he�*s all over the place. isn�*t fair, as he seemed to do in his interview with chris mason today, to blame the flow of information coming up from the latest problem for number ten, chris pincher affair, latest problem for number ten, chris pincheraffair, he latest problem for number ten, chris pincher affair, he seemed to blame that on sort of disconnect between

what the press office was saying to journalists and whatever, when in fact, surely the point is the prime minister should take responsibility for everything coming out of number ten because he is the prime minister. ten because he is the prime minister-— ten because he is the prime minister. . , ., ., minister. that is what i meant when i set about getting _ minister. that is what i meant when i set about getting a _ minister. that is what i meant when i set about getting a grip. _ minister. that is what i meant when i set about getting a grip. i - minister. that is what i meant when i set about getting a grip. i can i i set about getting a grip. i can believe he thinks he�*s telling the truth that he didn�*t intend the press office to say that andy didn�*t really know what the press office racing, but this point is he should have known. that�*s why i say there should be one person in downing street whose job it is to manage this sort of thing. nobody is managing this. it really gives the impression of drifting, i think that�*s the way i would sum it up. i�*m still wanting to get out of this because i think he�*s got a lot to offer, but if he doesn�*t start offering it and telling us what is programme is and make sure it is a tory programme, abraxas programme, and we can get to benefits from other things that he�*s done, unless he does that, he�*s not going to convince anybody. you

he does that, he's not going to convince anybody.— he does that, he's not going to convince anybody. you still support him, and the _ convince anybody. you still support him, and the other— convince anybody. you still support him, and the other ministers i convince anybody. you still support him, and the other ministers to - him, and the other ministers to speak to, you would say don't get rid of them now? i speak to, you would say don't get rid of them now?— rid of them now? i would say that for several reasons, _ rid of them now? i would say that for several reasons, not - rid of them now? i would say that for several reasons, not least - rid of them now? i would say that for several reasons, not least of l for several reasons, not least of which is that if he does go, that is going to be quite a prolonged period during which there would be no real leadership are effectively no prime minister because the party well have to elect a new leader, and a lot of the old battles are going to be redrawn about brexit and all the rest of it. i would rather the party didn't do that at the moment. i would rather he did survive, but he's got to survive with a very, very different approach. and he hasn't got it, he just hasn't got it. hasn't got it, he 'ust hasn't got it. ~ ., , , it. will that ever be instilled in him? as i _ it. will that ever be instilled in him? as i say. _ it. will that ever be instilled in him? as i say, i'm _ it. will that ever be instilled in him? as i say, i'm sorry - it. will that ever be instilled in i him? as i say, i'm sorry to keep repeating _ him? as i say, i'm sorry to keep repeating myself, _ him? as i say, i'm sorry to keep repeating myself, he _ him? as i say, i'm sorry to keep repeating myself, he needs- him? as i say, i'm sorry to keep - repeating myself, he needs somebody in downing street whosejob it repeating myself, he needs somebody in downing street whose job it will be to handle the sort of thing and say shut up, prime minister, don't speak to anybody until we have started out exactly what the situation is and we have made sure we are allsinging

situation is and we have made sure we are all singing from the same hymn sheet. it's not rocket science. it's basic. �* ., . _ it's basic. and the two recent by elections which _ it's basic. and the two recent by elections which were _ it's basic. and the two recent by elections which were lost - it's basic. and the two recent by elections which were lost with l elections which were lost with something from a majority is, is that a taste of things to come unless he does get a grip? it that a taste of things to come unless he does get a grip? it need not be, unless he does get a grip? it need not be. but _ unless he does get a grip? it need not be, but your— unless he does get a grip? it need not be, but your crucial _ unless he does get a grip? it need not be, but your crucial words - not be, but your crucial words there, unless he does get a grip, it will be. governments have lost by elections on quite a spectacular scale before they've gone on to win the next general election. that i don't think stats anything in stone. if he doesn't get a grip, then he's got a very, very limited amount of time left in which he will, and any credibility at all. qm. time left in which he will, and any credibility at all.— credibility at all. 0k, thank you very much _ credibility at all. 0k, thank you very much indeed. _ credibility at all. 0k, thank you very much indeed. i _ credibility at all. 0k, thank you very much indeed. i wonder- credibility at all. 0k, thank you very much indeed. i wonder if. credibility at all. 0k, thank you i very much indeed. i wonder if we could just take you back to downing street. i'm not sure if we have a picture there downing street, because some developments have come through from our political staff down at westminster. return to downing street after speaking to reporters in the commons office, a bit of detail here, joined by the

culture secretary, nadeem torres, a staunch supporter of the prime minister, also the chief went, accessing the significance of the cabinets resignations, as we have heard, nadeem torres back to the piano to eat. dominic raab and home secretary aren't expected to collect either. the stress closest to mr bob says he was loyal to mrjohnson while an ally of ms. priddy patel says that she is staying. a source close to ben wallace as the defence secretary is not resigning. it's got a secretary, alisterjack, says that he is behind the prime minister as well. but, the tory former chief webb, mark harper, a critic, a fierce critic of borisjohnson said that tonight we have seen leadership from rishi sunak and sajid javid, honourable decisions made by honourable decisions made by honourable man. the conservative party has so much to offer our country. it is time for a fresh start. let's speak to the

parliamentary journalist, start. let's speak to the parliamentaryjournalist, tony grillo, who is in southeast london for us tonight. what do you you make of the short to medium—term and long—term political career of boris johnson tonight? it’s long-term political career of boris johnson tonight?— johnson tonight? it's looking less and less likely _ johnson tonight? it's looking less and less likely that _ johnson tonight? it's looking less and less likely that boris - johnson tonight? it's looking less and less likely that boris johnson | and less likely that borisjohnson has a long—term political career. these two resignations are at seeks to me significance. it is really, really dangerous for prime minister to lose chance of the exchequer, the second most important person in the governments, and sajid javid's resignation obviously adds pressure on him about what we are really waiting to see or any other cabinet ministers going to resign at this point is it means that the prime minister will probably continue, but he will be even more badly wounded than he was before. it's certainly not going to put to bed any questions about his leadership, and it creates more division within the government and makes it more difficult for them to get their agenda through. i was listening to what and wet it, saying, and her focus is very much on brexit, i'm not sure if that's the focus for

most of british voters at the minute. it's obviously the cost of living crisis and the fact that the chancellor who was in charge of spearheading the government's response to that is obvious they can as i say, really big blow for the government. it will be interesting to see who replaces him as well because boris johnson to see who replaces him as well because borisjohnson has tried to brush off rishi sunak�*s resignation by saying, oh, it will make it easierfor us to cut by saying, oh, it will make it easier for us to cut taxes, so he seems to be regarding... ted easier for us to cut taxes, so he seems to be regarding...- easier for us to cut taxes, so he seems to be regarding... ted i 'ust entra ed seems to be regarding... ted i 'ust entrapped you. fl seems to be regarding... ted i 'ust entrapped you. the i seems to be regarding... ted i 'ust entrapped you. the uk * seems to be regarding... ted i just| entrapped you. the uk conservative party vice chair has just resigned life on air. i will try to get some more information about what he says just as that number ten door opens. bill hasjust resigned, just as that number ten door opens. bill has just resigned, live on air. what was the tipping point for this? we have had party gates, so many other scandals with the prime minister on the periphery or indeed at the centre. what was the tipping point, do you think i meant to make this happen? i point, do you think i meant to make this happen?—

this happen? i think it's the way in which the pincher _ this happen? i think it's the way in which the pincher affair _ this happen? i think it's the way in which the pincher affair has - this happen? i think it's the way in which the pincher affair has been l which the pincher affair has been handled. it's been really badly handled, and downing street have effectively told the press things that weren't true, then changed their mind, then changed their mind again. there might have been a sense that cabinet colleagues are being asked to go out and battle the prime ministerfor asked to go out and battle the prime minister for not asked to go out and battle the prime ministerfor not being given asked to go out and battle the prime minister for not being given the correct information. —— battle for the prime minister. often with the sort of things, it can take a few days before the real anger in the party becomes apparent. there may be a strategic to it, there may be an attempt to try to force the prime minister out before it goes into summer recess. a lot of talk about the prime minister having the ultimate sanction the lot has been changed now, the prime minister alone can recommend to the queen that a general election should be called. so maybe a combination of those factors. i think one of the things that has certainly been apparent in the last few days is just frustration at the way in which downing street can't appear to get a story right about relatively simple issues like was the prime minister told about allegations against chris

pincher before he appointed them to the governmentmake it may a combination of all those factors stop i didn't think a lot of viewers who don't have that much experience in politics or westminster may think, hang a second, is at the press office who is getting this wrong? they must be checking the information with somebody, or somebody just information with somebody, or somebodyjust making a call and any old random press officer is just making up any insecurity she said. everyone understood what claims to take. to be honest, it's been a few prime minister since we have had a press office quite that solid. but i think it's more to do with the fact that borisjohnson appears to some people to be an agent of chaos, and everything he touches becomes i can. everything he touches becomes chaotic and says one thing one day and another thing another day, and regards all these things that should just be brushed over and it's time for us to move on. certainly amongst some conservative mps, although not all, there is a sense, a feeling

that the downing street operation isn't up to scratch, i think analytic and was correct when she said that. her idea, the prime minister hasjust done said that. her idea, the prime minister has just done that at least twice already tried to be set his downing street operation. effectively it comes back to him as a person and as a leader.- effectively it comes back to him as a person and as a leader. thank you very much — a person and as a leader. thank you very much indeed. _ a person and as a leader. thank you very much indeed. let's _ a person and as a leader. thank you very much indeed. let's take - a person and as a leader. thank you very much indeed. let's take you i very much indeed. let's take you back to the downing street. the prime minister, well, i imagine having some pretty serious conversations there and ringing around to see what support he has. we have already had some cabinet ministers saying that they are loyal, they will not be resigning, but as we have been hearing from all of our guests in the last few hours, some pretty big resignations in terms of big beasts, powerful beasts within the cabinet to lose your chance and your health secretary within the space of half an hour of each other. we have also heard that trey party vice chair, a different level, he's resigned live on air.

they didn't have my support, and for that reason he should step down. lucy fisher, a friend of bbc news who for many years was doing paper reviews fresh air, and our chief political commentator for the times radio, is the game up for the prime minister tonight, radio, is the game up for the prime ministertonight, lucy? {jut minister tonight, lucy? out it's very difficult — minister tonight, lucy? out it's very difficult to _ minister tonight, lucy? out it's very difficult to see _ minister tonight, lucy? out it's very difficult to see how - minister tonight, lucy? out it's very difficult to see how boris l very difficult to see how boris johnson limps on after the loss of his chancellor and health secretary, there could yet be more cabinet resignations. we are still waiting to hear from the resignations. we are still waiting to hearfrom the education secretary, i believe he seemed to have gone to ground, still no public statement from michael gold, although i see some reports suggesting he will stay. boris johnson has many nicknames, houdini, the greasy piglets. he is defied political gravity before to confound all expectations, but it really is difficult to see now how at least in the medium to long—term he manages to klingon. we

the medium to long-term he manages to klinaon. ~ ., " to klingon. we have the 1922 committee — to klingon. we have the 1922 committee elections - to klingon. we have the 1922 committee elections coming | to klingon. we have the 1922 - committee elections coming up, and his opponents wants to fill those seats and change the rules. if that happens, i think the announcements being made tomorrow, without effectively be the end, judging from what you know the movement in the tory party? what you know the movement in the to -a ? ~ . ., , ~ tory party? well, i certainly think that today has — tory party? well, i certainly think that today has been _ tory party? well, i certainly think that today has been a _ tory party? well, i certainly think| that today has been a momentous tory party? well, i certainly think- that today has been a momentous day. there mps and ministers who feel embarrassed about the handling of the pincher affair. it goes right to the pincher affair. it goes right to the heart of many parliamentarian concerns about borisjohnson and his at administration's committed to the truth. the start the breathing that the prime minister wasn't aware of any allegations, then the lane change that he wasn't aware of any specific allegations against chris pincher, then today to sort of admit that it had been wrong to appoint him and he apologised, i think that sense of what one mp has called a set of rolling cats has struck many

mps. i set of rolling cats has struck many mp5. i think we have to see what happens with these 1922... is mps. i think we have to see what happens with these 1922. .. is that him, the prime _ happens with these 1922. .. is that him, the prime minister, - happens with these 1922. .. is that him, the prime minister, or- happens with these 1922. .. is that him, the prime minister, or the i him, the prime minister, or the people who has been appointed around ten who had no great? itinfoil. ten who had no great? well, ultimately — ten who had no great? well, ultimately the _ ten who had no great? well, ultimately the buck - ten who had no great? well, ultimately the buck rests - ten who had no great? well, | ultimately the buck rests with ten who had no great? well, - ultimately the buck rests with the prime minister. i ultimately the buck rests with the prime minister.— ultimately the buck rests with the prime minister. i know that. at the culture, prime minister. i know that. at the culture. as — prime minister. i know that. at the culture, as that's _ prime minister. i know that. at the culture, as that's coming _ prime minister. i know that. at the culture, as that's coming from - prime minister. i know that. at the culture, as that's coming from him| culture, as that's coming from him because meg is a culture of not telling the truth, the culture of obsessed —— saying one thing and then changing your mind when inconvenient facts arise, as that from the prime minister or is that from the prime minister or is that from the prime minister or is that from the people he appoints? his critics from the people he appoints? h 3 critics would say both. particularly it is him, and you know that it's one of the big, criticisms of the most die—hard rebels who turned against him during the predicate saga. they believe that he did deliberately mislead the house of commons when he said repeatedly that no parties had taken place in downing street and on the government to state. they think that was knowingly misleading the commons and

a resigning matter. other critics do have, there is a whole spectrum of concerns about borisjohnson, including a lack of grip both on the personnel and his government and on policy areas, but i think this idea of integrity has become one of the key shadows cast over his administration, and i do think it's going to be a very dangerous three weeks for him. the only saving grace may be that the commons is due to rise for recess very soon. there isn't much time for the rebels, necessarily to organise. and i think the rule change, it was thought, would take place if possible if they do manage to get it there in the autumn, but today changes everything. it cannot be stressed enough how seismic it is far prime minister to the chancellor in this way. i can't think of any precedent. lucy fisher, thank you very much. i'm told we cannot speak to the host of the westminster insider podcast at politico. can this blow over for

him? j at politico. can this blow over for him? ., �* ~' at politico. can this blow over for him? ., �* ~ ,., at politico. can this blow over for him? ., �* ~ , ., him? i don't think so. the question is 'ust him? i don't think so. the question isiust how — him? i don't think so. the question isiust how long _ him? i don't think so. the question isjust how long it _ him? i don't think so. the question isjust how long it takes, _ him? i don't think so. the question isjust how long it takes, even - is just how long it takes, even before tonight, conservative mp said to me within the past week or so that, you know, there is no way borisjohnson will make it to christmas. it's clear that in the offering is a change to the 1922 committee rules. there will be another vote of no consonant —— no confidence in him. that was already certain, and even the people defending borisjohnson i think what it meant privately that it has been seeming really unlikely for quite a while that borisjohnson will lead people —— lead his party into the next general election. i thinkjust the question that everyone has been asking tonight is how much is changed with these resignations and how much that will be sped up. it doesn't look like borisjohnson is likely to resign tonight. that's still not completely impossible. it's a question of how much this accelerates that. i think boris

johnson has been doomed to be ousted before the next general election even before tonight. he before the next general election even before tonight.— even before tonight. he will actively try _ even before tonight. he will actively try to _ even before tonight. he will actively try to replace - even before tonight. he will actively try to replace the i actively try to replace the secretaries of state as quickly as possible. how big a paul of people are there that would be ready to take on those positions? i are there that would be ready to take on those positions?- take on those positions? i think what's interesting _ take on those positions? i think what's interesting is _ take on those positions? i think what's interesting is that - take on those positions? i think what's interesting is that these | what's interesting is that these announcements of the cabinet ministers who are staying well to borisjohnson, there are some potential contenders. i suppose the person that people will be immediately thinking of will be liz truss who has also been talked up as a potential leadership contender, but she announced after rishi sunak and sajid javid's resignations that she was staying loyal to the prime minister. she would be staying in cabinet, and it is well known to people within the westminster, people within the westminster, people who know liz truss well, that she has long wanted to be chancellor. she actually, when she was appointed foreign secretary was privately a bit disappointed by that appointment. she is not as

interested in foreign affairs. she's always wanted to be chancellor, so this could actually be her opportunity. the question is whether that puts her in a better position ultimately to eventually run for the leadership if that comes to pass. i suppose other contenders coming from a michael gove is seen as capable, although we haven't heard an official statement from him yet, matt hancock, resigned from cabinet not that long ago. we could be about to see the mother of all comebacks from him. that would make another extraordinary story, but it is difficult having to replace his chancellor and health secretary tonight, if you move someone like liz truss, that would mean a whole domino effect of changes to the top team. maybe it would make more sense to bring someone like matt hancock back into the fold, but i think that will be the next immediate challenge, especially... is

will be the next immediate challenge, especially... is that what ou challenge, especially... is that what you are — challenge, especially... is that what you are hearing _ challenge, especially... is that what you are hearing from - challenge, especially... is that what you are hearing from torij challenge, especially... is that - what you are hearing from tori mps? i think that the problem with matt hancock as he is a little bit of a comedy figure, so i think these are half serious and half in jest, that he has been health secretary, he has a lot of cabinet experience and he could be directly swapped in. i don't think that necessarily means he could be made chancellor, but he could be brought into cabinet to plug one of these vacancies after people are moved around. with that too resignations as well, there will be a real scramble within government to fail these, especially lower down as well, we don't know for certain which of the cabinet minister is resign tonight.— which of the cabinet minister is resin toniaht. ., ~ ,, , . resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. resign tonight. thank you very much indeed- we — resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. we will— resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. we will be _ resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. we will be speaking - resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. we will be speaking to - resign tonight. thank you very much indeed. we will be speaking to sir . indeed. we will be speaking to sir roger gail in a moment. let's bring you some pictures, because, actually, lloyd frost, the former brexit negotiator, someone who used

to be considered a very close ally of the prime minister has released a statement. he says... roger, is that something you would support? roger, is that something you would suuort? , �* roger, is that something you would suo--rtr_, , �* , support? absolutely. i've been sa inc support? absolutely. i've been saying for— support? absolutely. i've been saying for some _ support? absolutely. i've been saying for some time - support? absolutely. i've been saying for some time that - support? absolutely. i've been saying for some time that the l support? absolutely. i've been - saying for some time that the prime minister cannot go on a stop after the revelations from lord mcdonald this morning and the lessons from sajid javid and rishi sunak this evening, particularly sajid javid, which i think spells out the position very clearly and very starkly indeed. i cannot see any way in which any honourable payments or could do anything other now then go

and resign. but could do anything other now then go and resin. �* ., ., and resign. but what would he need to be signed — and resign. but what would he need to be signed for? _ and resign. but what would he need to be signed for? are _ and resign. but what would he need to be signed for? are you _ to be signed for? are you honestly saying to the race around the country and indeed around the world now, this is about the appointment of a deputy chief with, and that he wasn't aware he was aware of allegations of sexual abuse, or is it bigger than that? it’s allegations of sexual abuse, or is it bigger than that?— it bigger than that? it's bigger than that- _ it bigger than that? it's bigger than that. this _ it bigger than that? it's bigger than that. this is _ it bigger than that? it's bigger than that. this is a _ it bigger than that? it's bigger than that. this is a prime - it bigger than that? it's bigger - than that. this is a prime minister who is guilty of serial dishonesty. let's be clear about this. lord mcdonald has spelled out in his letter absolutely in terms of the fact that the prime minister was lying. he didn't use those words, i use those words. he is being rather more diplomatic. but the sentiment is still the same. he was simply not telling the truth. this is a prime minister who on sunday sent out to the secretary of state, teresa coffey, to defend his reputation. then on monday, send out an excellent young junior minister to

do with the same thing with an assurance from downing street that mrjohnson knew nothing about the circumstances surrounding mr pincher. the bottom has been kicked out of that story completely. we cannot go on... is out of that story completely. we cannot go on...— cannot go on... is this a resignation _ cannot go on... is this a resignation for - cannot go on... is this a resignation for a - cannot go on... is this a resignation for a prime l cannot go on... is this a - resignation for a prime minister cannot go on... is this a _ resignation for a prime minister who is asking his ministers in cabinet ministers to be economical, a a phrase from decades ago, or somebody who has actually dealt with the pandemic well, his supporters would argue that brexit done and somebody who is proving a very staunch ally, for example, at a time of war with ukraine. this is a question of the entity and the integrity with the man at the top of government. the government itself has good policies. the government itself has some good ministries. but i question whether all of those that stay on in cabinets may find themselves in a position to make the running when the leadership election comes as it

does. but we shall see. the man at the top has to set the tone. this is a man who has sought to trash the international agreements that he willingly signed and campaigned on in 2019 from of the northern ireland protocol. this is a man who has consistently failed to tell the truth. i'm sorry, but the reputation of my party and the reputation of our country, internationally does matter. our country, internationally does matter- we _ our country, internationally does matter. we cannot _ our country, internationally does matter. we cannot go _ our country, internationally does matter. we cannot go on - our country, internationally n,» matter. we cannot go on being led by somebody who appears to be in some peculiar physiological manner totally incapable of telling the truth. .. . . . totally incapable of telling the truth. ., , . , ., , truth. roger, bear with us for 'ust 20 truth. roger, bear with us for 'ust zo seends fl truth. roger, bear with us for 'ust zo sconds i fl truth. roger, bear with us for 'ust 20 seconds, i say i truth. roger, bear with us for 'ust 20 seconds, i say that i truth. roger, bear with us forjust 20 seconds, i say that because i truth. roger, bear with us forjust i 20 seconds, i say that because sajid javid hasjust 20 seconds, i say that because sajid javid has just been filmed as he returned home. this is what he had to say to reporters when he got there. .. ~

to say to reporters when he got there. ., ~ . . , to say to reporters when he got there. ., ~ i . , there. hello, mrjavid. they met that evening- — there. hello, mrjavid. they met that evening. i— there. hello, mrjavid. they met that evening. iwill— there. hello, mrjavid. they met that evening. i willjust - there. hello, mrjavid. they met that evening. i willjust go - there. hello, mrjavid. they metj that evening. i willjust go spend some _ that evening. i willjust go spend sometime — that evening. i willjust go spend some time with my family. thank you for coming _ some time with my family. thank you for coming. thank you. thank you, good _ for coming. thank you. thank you, good evening. thank you. | for coming. thank you. thank you, good evening. thank you.- good evening. thank you. i rather wish we hadn't _ good evening. thank you. i rather wish we hadn't come _ good evening. thank you. i rather wish we hadn't come away - good evening. thank you. i rather wish we hadn't come away from i good evening. thank you. i rather l wish we hadn't come away from you good evening. thank you. i rather - wish we hadn't come away from you to hear that, obviously absolutely nothing from the primary chancellor, rishi sunak. , nothing from the primary chancellor, rishi sunak-— rishi sunak. everything that needed to be said with _ rishi sunak. everything that needed to be said with that _ rishi sunak. everything that needed to be said with that in _ rishi sunak. everything that needed to be said with that in his _ rishi sunak. everything that needed to be said with that in his letter- to be said with that in his letter perhaps that's what he didn't say. just talk me through the next few days, leading up for the election from 1922 committee, and an immediate run—up to the summer recess. should the party he doing now please yellow if you look at the history, margaret thatcher honorably resigned under the circumstances that were not sustainable. teresa may honorably resigned. i would like to think that even at this late stage, this prime minister might see

the writing on the wall in enormous letters and honorably resigned, but if he doesn't, although i don't like changing the rules in the middle of the game, it's quite clear that the 1922 committee is going to have to change the rules. and hold another no—confidence vote. i do not believe that this prime minister is capable of surviving that vote. fiend that this prime minister is capable of surviving that vote. and speaking to our of surviving that vote. and speaking to your colleagues _ of surviving that vote. and speaking to your colleagues in _ of surviving that vote. and speaking to your colleagues in the _ of surviving that vote. and speaking to your colleagues in the last - of surviving that vote. and speaking to your colleagues in the last hour l to your colleagues in the last hour or so, to your colleagues in the last hour orso, is to your colleagues in the last hour or so, is that of view shared by people who have been staunch supporters of the prime minister before? �* .. supporters of the prime minister before? ., , . ., , before? before the resignations, when i was _ before? before the resignations, when i was in — before? before the resignations, when i was in the _ before? before the resignations, when i was in the tea _ before? before the resignations, when i was in the tea room - before? before the resignations, when i was in the tea room and l before? before the resignations, l when i was in the tea room and on the terrace and meeting colleagues at gatherings around the house, the level of pent up anger and dismay at the manner in which, first of all, this prime minister has treated

third, the damage that he is doing, not only to the party, but to the body politic in this country. that level of anger is something that in 39 years in this house of commons i have never experienced before. it is tangible, it is palpable, you can feel it. .. . . tangible, it is palpable, you can feel it. .. . , ., tangible, it is palpable, you can feel it. ., . , ., . , feel it. lord has often felt it was like a boil— feel it. lord has often felt it was like a boil was _ feel it. lord has often felt it was like a boil was about _ feel it. lord has often felt it was like a boil was about to - feel it. lord has often felt it was like a boil was about to burst. feel it. lord has often felt it was i like a boil was about to burst when we spoke to him earlier. thank you very much indeed. let's turn out to kevin schofield, political editor at huffington post. i don't think i've spoken to anyone so far in the last hour who thinks that there is a way through this for borisjohnson. are you going to surprise me. is there? i am sorry, i don't think i can go against the flow, unfortunately for you. i just against the flow, unfortunately for you. ijust don't against the flow, unfortunately for you. i just don't see against the flow, unfortunately for you. ijust don't see how against the flow, unfortunately for you. i just don't see how after losing to set senior cabinet ministers on the back of. it seems like such a long time ago already,

but this morning, the intervention ljy but this morning, the intervention by signing mcdonald and what the prime minister is actually knew about chris pincher, that was incredible. such is the whole combination of things, party gate well, we've now got a whole number of conservative mps going public again saying that they are putting in letters of no—confidence. ijust think that that type now is unstoppable and that sooner or later, borisjohnson will be gone. is it in his character, though, to create, to pull out now this next to richard gallas saint theresa may, margaret thatcher did eventually. is that a characteristic of this prime minister? .. �* . that a characteristic of this prime minister? ., �* , . . , that a characteristic of this prime minister? ., �*, . . , ., minister? no. it's certainly not. and i think _ minister? no. it's certainly not. and i think a — minister? no. it's certainly not. and i think a few— minister? no. it's certainly not. and i think a few other - minister? no. it's certainly not. and i think a few other prime i and i think a few other prime minister is would've already gone by now. so, no, idon't think minister is would've already gone by now. so, no, i don't think he will go unless he is basically carried out the front door of number ten. it will have to become completely unsustainable, it may go as far as

another vote of confidence. if he loses that, they will have no choice, but until it comes to that point, he will no doubt attempt to write it out we have seen loyalists tonight coming out to support them, so clearly there is a rearguard action. they think this can still be salvaged. but i think anybody looking at it objectively would say thatis looking at it objectively would say that is a long shot. it’s that is a long shot. it's interesting _ that is a long shot. it's interesting speaking to other mps in the last a0 minutes or so who had been saying that for those cabinet ministers who don't now come out and resign and support the prime minister, it would severely hamper their efforts and their chances in any race for the leadership. is that your view across the party as a whole? , ,, . i your view across the party as a whole? , ,, . , . , whole? yes. strangely, half past five, whole? yes. strangely, half past five. around _ whole? yes. strangely, half past five, around 40 _ whole? yes. strangely, half past five, around 40 minutes - whole? yes. strangely, half past five, around 40 minutes before i whole? yes. strangely, half past i five, around 40 minutes before we five, around a0 minutes before we got back has taken a cabinet

resignation from i spoke to them conservative mp who made that very point and said, look, the game is up. we are now looking to the cabinet to make the move, and those that don't will be judged harshly should they run for the leader in future. i don't think there's any doubt that sajid javid and rishi sunak will both throw their hats into the ring when the time comes. they made that calculation that they have had to go before hand, but interestingly, liz truss —— liz truss who also will throw her hat into the ring, she made the opposite calculation of that, she thinks her interests are best served in saying interests are best served in saying in the cabinet. both have reached completely different conclusions. i think amongst conservative mps, at least, is that those cabinet ministers who sustain theirjobs and will bejudged very ministers who sustain theirjobs and will be judged very harshly said they try to be prime minister and future. . ., . they try to be prime minister and future. ,, , , , they try to be prime minister and future. . , , , ., future. stay with us, because not only cabinet _ future. stay with us, because not only cabinet ministers, _ future. stay with us, because not only cabinet ministers, but - future. stay with us, because not only cabinet ministers, but we i future. stay with us, because not. only cabinet ministers, but we see resignations further down the political food chain here. resignations further down the politicalfood chain here. stocky

body says recent events has undermine trust in public life, jonathan valles, one of the pms most loyal defenders resigned, citing reputational damage being done to the party. he is a red wellerfrom the party. he is a red wellerfrom the 2019 intake. so, it would appear that there is in publishing here and at the middle, and at the bottom. yes, indeed. as remarkable, it's only a month ago that we have the vote of confidence in the prime minister and ia8 mps, tory mps, ai% minister and ia8 mps, tory mps, a1% of the total voted against him. i think if he was to have another vote tomorrow that would be even higher, it would be probably more than 50%. ijust think that it would be probably more than 50%. i just think that there is now a groundswell of opinion come as much as borisjohnson might want to put his fingers in his ears and pretend this is not happening, you just get the impression now that the momentum is building, and that the conservative party, certainly the parliamentary party at least has decided that they want to read of borisjohnson and it's notjust a

matter of when rather than if. bk. matter of when rather than if. 0k. kevin, matter of when rather than if. 0k. kevin. thank _ matter of when rather than if. 0k. kevin, thank you _ matter of when rather than if. ok. kevin, thank you very much indeed. kevin, thank you very much indeed. kevin schofield, political editor at huff post uk. you are watching bbc news. welcome to our rolling coverage as two of the government's most senior ministers have re—signed in the past hour from boris johnson's cabinet. plunging the government into a major crisis. rishi sunak, the chancellor and sajid javid, the health and social care secretary both quit within minutes of each other. it comes after borisjohnson admitted that he knew there had been a previous official complaint about chris pincher who he promoted to the post of deputy chief whip in february. the prime ministers he bitterly regretted the mistake in an interview with our political editor, chris mason come in the past half hour, we have seen a prime minister returning to downing street. we have

also heard that other cabinet ministers have pledged their support for him. rishi sunak and sajid javid have left. welcome to this programme. special rolling coverage of two key resignations and the government of the british prime minister boris johnson. he has lost his chancellor and his health secretary in the space of ten minutes about an hour they said there was a failure of leadership in the country deserved better. other morejunior leadership in the country deserved better. other more junior political positions have been lost as well to the prime minister, the prime minister as we speak and number 10 downing street consulting with his aides and loyal cabinet ministers to see what he should do next. we can speak now to the chair of the committee on standards and privileges of public life, labour in

p chris bryant. what a dramatic evening. what are the prime ministers options? ihe evening. what are the prime ministers options?— evening. what are the prime ministers options? he will sick to dim on, ministers options? he will sick to cling on. come — ministers options? he will sick to cling on, come what _ ministers options? he will sick to cling on, come what may - ministers options? he will sick to cling on, come what may in i ministers options? he will sick to i cling on, come what may in the prime minister is a lot of power have been very disturbed —— he will stick to. the prime minister has a mandate having with the general election and pretty much can do whatever he wants thereafter and this is very damning. and there will be a lot more blood on the carpet that i think before this is over and the more resignations this evening but the truth of the matter is, where we are at is just completely unsustainable. you cannot have a prime minister say and rejoice over the fact that all the sex pests that supported him for the leadership. he cannot have them making jokes about chris pincher in the making him in charge of welfare

in the office. you cannot have him apologising and say yes, you stored but all of this ages ago and having sent ministers out to defend the indefensible on the basis on the back of lies. it's unsustainable stop by people watching on bbc world, asking you this question. someone in india, bangladesh and hearing that the prime minister might be forced to resign over the appointment of somebody in a government position as a man who was let the country against a pandemic in the cost of living presses and everything else, some people may feel this is family absurd. ida. everything else, some people may feel this is family absurd.- feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point _ feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point of— feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point of politics _ feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point of politics is - feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point of politics is that i feel this is family absurd. no. the whole point of politics is that you | whole point of politics is that you governed by consent and that consent is earned by virtue of your moral authority. and we do with the major crisis like the cost of living presses a covid—i9 or the situation in ukraine, you, everyone has to

trust you in the afternoon or that you come on the air and sp would make sacrifices that they are telling the truth and that your ministers when they go out and the press office and they speak to journalists are telling the truth and when that moment of trust is broken, democracy is at risk. that is the problem here. the prime minister has no moral authority. who knows what will happen later on in the cost of living presses but people just are going to believe him any longer and that is why i hold many more conservative mps will find their determination finally. who knows why they've wasted so much time. this country will not be able to move on until the prime minister moves out. to move on untilthe prime minister moves out-— moves out. what was the tipping oint in moves out. what was the tipping point in your— moves out. what was the tipping point in your view. _ moves out. what was the tipping point in your view. the _ moves out. what was the tipping point in your view. the prime i point in your view. the prime minister has been involved in the centre of so many other scandals or controversies over the last three years, what was the tipping point

here? ~ ., years, what was the tipping point here? . . ., i years, what was the tipping point here? . . . , . , . here? what i feel angry about is all the people who _ here? what i feel angry about is all the people who put _ here? what i feel angry about is all the people who put him _ here? what i feel angry about is all the people who put him in - here? what i feel angry about is all the people who put him in that i here? what i feel angry about is all the people who put him in that job| the people who put him in thatjob knew what he was like and all of this is about him. it's about his personality, his inability to tell the truth and his constant excusing bad behaviour. normally his own but sometimes that of others as well and there has been a drip, drip, drip. all of this is been eminently predictable. as predicted by michael gove who said that he was not a suitable person to be prime minister because of his personality and it was fascinating, was that? boris johnson said this evening that he should've realised, you should've realised that chris pincher was not going to learn or change. look in the mirror, prime minister. you're never going to learn and you're never going to learn and you're never going to change, that's why chris pincher should be out of parliament and you should be out of downing street. isn’t parliament and you should be out of downing street.— downing street. isn't jacob rees wridht, downing street. isn't jacob rees

wright. talking _ downing street. isn't jacob rees wright, talking about, _ downing street. isn't jacob rees wright, talking about, in - downing street. isn't jacob rees wright, talking about, in recent| wright, talking about, in recent months diminishing, nobody can get rid of him at the moment unless there is a general election and certainly the tory party cannot get rid of him unless the rules change? we have seen the conservatives can change the rules pretty quickly if they feel they need to. my guess is that there will be a vote of confidence fairly quickly anything tomorrow, sajid javid and rishi sunak will give statements when the cabinet ministers resign and i think this will play out into the prime minister has gone and i'm sure there will be before the summer recess but no, we live in a parliamentary democracy. we are not a presidency. you don't win the presidency in this country, you win the right to lead your party in parliament. and that moment of trust, the precious moment of trust is broken and it's pretty clear that most conservatives now realise that look, for the labour

party, and one sins, might be better if boris stayed on and in the voters will hand them out at the next general election but this is about the country. general election but this is about the country-— general election but this is about the country. general election but this is about thecount .�* , ., ,, the country. because, or because you are not ready — the country. because, or because you are not ready to _ the country. because, or because you are not ready to lead, _ the country. because, or because you are not ready to lead, as _ the country. because, or because you are not ready to lead, as some - the country. because, or because you are not ready to lead, as some tory l are not ready to lead, as some tory critics would say? we are ready to lead. ~ ., ., , critics would say? we are ready to lead. . . . , ., . lead. we are ready to lead. the biggest difference _ lead. we are ready to lead. the biggest difference between i lead. we are ready to lead. the biggest difference between the | lead. we are ready to lead. the i biggest difference between the man who presently leads to party, keir starmer made the decent decision to say that if you refined for breaking the covid—i9 rules which we all as mps signed up to, he would resign. that is decency in its proper behaviour in public life, not what we've had from the prime minister and by this matters. fin we've had from the prime minister and by this matters.— we've had from the prime minister and by this matters. on that point, the olice and by this matters. on that point, the police have _ and by this matters. on that point, the police have not _ and by this matters. on that point, the police have not made - and by this matters. on that point, the police have not made the i the police have not made the decision yet. we the police have not made the decision yet.— the police have not made the decision yet. we will see what ha-oens decision yet. we will see what happens with _ decision yet. we will see what happens with that. _ decision yet. we will see what happens with that. we - decision yet. we will see what happens with that. we will i decision yet. we will see what| happens with that. we will see decision yet. we will see what i happens with that. we will see what happens with that. we will see what happens with that but let me make

this one final point, if that is ok, why this matters is because our country historically around the world has been known for being reliable, dependable, your word is your bond. so, we signed the treaty, your bond. so, we signed the treaty, you stand by it and we have a prime minister with its reputation for lying in this way and a country that starts tearing up treaties that it signed only a few years ago, investors go, i'm not so sure that britain is a safe bet and other political leaders from the road go, i'm not sure if there's any point in doing business with britain because in three months�* time, the say the opposite of today and it�*s notjust the conservative party that is tarnished, such as borisjohnson thatis tarnished, such as borisjohnson that is tarnished by this, it is the nation that is tarnished by this and thatis nation that is tarnished by this and that is why he has got to go. thank ou for that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining _ that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining us — that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining us on _ that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining us on bbc _ that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. i

that is why he has got to go. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. keir starmer has been speaking, here�*s what he had to say. shifter starmer has been speaking, here's what he had to say.— what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and — what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all— what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all of— what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all of the _ what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all of the failure, i what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all of the failure, it i what he had to say. after all of the sleaze and all of the failure, it is i sleaze and all of the failure, it is clear that this tory government is now collapsing in the tory cabinet ministers have been cheerleaders for borisjohnson ministers have been cheerleaders for boris johnson throughout the sorry saga. they backed him broke the broke the law, the law, they backed him when he lied, they backed him when he marked the sacrifices of the british people. so, they have been complicit as he is disgraced his office and let down his country and thankfully, if they have a shred of integrity, they would have been gone months ago. the tory party is corrupt and changing one man at the top one fix it. we need a real change of government and a fresh start for britain.— start for britain. many people are concerned by _ start for britain. many people are concerned by big _ start for britain. many people are concerned by big issues - start for britain. many people are concerned by big issues like i start for britain. many people are concerned by big issues like the i concerned by big issues like the cost of living presses, many people say this is not the time to change the government, this is the time for

political stability?— political stability? there is an hind political stability? there is anything but _ political stability? there is anything but political i political stability? there is i anything but political stability because this government is collapsing and the tory cabinet ministers have been backing boris johnson through this. the tory party is corrupted and we need notjust a change at the top of the tory party, we need a change of government and a fresh start for a countries we can actually address those big issues that are undoubtedly out there. the prime minister said the way this is for him is to call this a general election and he wants to go to the general public and he wants to, he is not fit general public and he wants to, ye is not fit to govern the country. that is dawning on many people across the conservative party but they have to reflect on the fact that they have backed him from months and months and months. in designing today, it means nothing against their complicity for all of those months when they should have seen him for what he was and they knew who he was, we need a change of

government. 50 knew who he was, we need a change of government-— government. so you would support a deneral government. so you would support a general election _ government. so you would support a general election in _ government. so you would support a general election in the _ government. so you would support a general election in the next - government. so you would support a general election in the next couple i general election in the next couple of weeks? . ~ general election in the next couple of weeks? . . . , general election in the next couple ofweeks? . . . , , . of weeks? yes. we need a fresh start for britain. you _ of weeks? yes. we need a fresh start for britain. you need _ of weeks? yes. we need a fresh start for britain. you need a _ of weeks? yes. we need a fresh start for britain. you need a change - of weeks? yes. we need a fresh start for britain. you need a change of- for britain. you need a change of government in this government is collapsing in the tory party is corrupted and changing one man at the top of the tory party will not make any difference and will not fix the problems. let�*s have a fresh start for britain let�*s have a real change of government. lets start for britain let's have a real change of government.- start for britain let's have a real change of government. lets be too boris johnson's _ change of government. lets be too boris johnson's former _ change of government. lets be too boris johnson's former director i change of government. lets be too boris johnson's former director of i borisjohnson�*s former director of communications. number ten, borisjohnson�*s former director of communications. numberten, as communications. number ten, as you can see. my goodness, rishi sunak, ex chancellor has gone home. so, number 11 at the moment but that start with the director of communications. if you have worked with him for years, you know him well and you�*re a friend, i suppose. what is your advice to him tonight?

my what is your advice to him tonight? my advice to him, if he had listened ages ago when all of the stuff stretching back to owen patterson would be stretching back to owen patterson would he get out in front of it and tell the truth and the problem is that the prime minister has unfortunately tonight and of the weekend, once again been caught with his hand in the dressing that it�*s not a switched or if it is one, it�*s not a switched or if it is one, it�*s not my hand in it. the inevitable consequence of months and months of bad headlines and the sense that, ministers and backbenchers cannot carry on defending what turns out to be untrue. the problem this evening and i think there was a mood change, you could definitely feel that. in talking to conservatives friends of mine, there was a definite change after the spokesman came out and said that the prime minister has suddenly remembered that there was a conversation. and it may months, that felt like the last straw. the problem is throughout this, they have not come on the front foot. they need at this when he was in

trouble back in february and he rewarded that loyalty by making him deputy chief whip. if on friday that come out and said, those mistake but we thought everything that we heard about chris pincher has been put in the past, i made the mistake and i�*m sorry, maybe he would not have the cabinet resignations this evening but he refused to get out in front of this is paying the ultimate price for this and i cannot see how there is any way out of this. boris johnson is the great survivor but i don�*t see others in the way out of this winter chancellor resigns in the middle of a cost appealing crisis in the rating is on the wall for borisjohnson and he will fight it out, they will have to turf them out and you never know with boris johnson. there�*s always that thing where he might do something extraordinary. of the truth is, the tory party tonight is in civil war and the likely outcome of that will

be a new tory prime minister in time whether it be tomorrow, next week for the next couple of months but of more cabinet ministers do not resign, i suspect the backbenchers will be taking it into their own hands when they have the 1992 committee and they will call it an immediate new vote of no—confidence around the waiting and the prime minister knows deep down that they�*ve probably got more than 180 that they need now. pore they've probably got more than 180 that they need now.— that they need now. are these intedri that they need now. are these integrity issues _ that they need now. are these integrity issues small - that they need now. are these integrity issues small issues i that they need now. are these | integrity issues small issues of integrity issues small issues of integrity are big issues of integrity are big issues of integrity or does not matter? it integrity or does not matter? ht absolutely matters. integrity matters in politics and it is the biggest issue and it�*s interesting that will cabinet ministers you have to admire them because the sticking by him of make the point he continued to make the point that he gets the big decisions write a note indicates that he gets all the small decisions wrong in all the decisions matter i think integrity matters and the truth is, the prime minister, he is not a bad guy, right? but when

you get to a situation where you yourself take his reaction to this sucre report and the losses in the by elections. a listen to him explain himself, you must think that none of it it happened. he doesn�*t seem to acknowledge the importance of the party get report and it�*s very much that�*s done, we need to get on. the by elections are just a natural product of being kicked as a midterm government. he knows that�*s not the case. but he�*s gotten himself into a mindset or boris johnson only knows forward gear and in the way it�*s an admirable quality. get on up and carry on. the problem is that�*s finally catching up problem is that�*s finally catching up to him it�*s going to be very difficult for him to see a way through now. his difficult for him to see a way through now.— difficult for him to see a way through now. his worldview is pandloss through now. his worldview is pangloss in- _ through now. his worldview is pangloss in. to _ through now. his worldview is pangloss in. to think - through now. his worldview is pangloss in. to think any i pangloss in. to think any introspection at all? you�*ve been in typescripts of them before our

numerous issues. i�*ve never seen that. will there be some self—analysis going on dude why he keeps chipping up of these issues was the basis and interviews, one wonders what he continues to make the same mistakes? ihe wonders what he continues to make the same mistakes?— the same mistakes? he doesn't apologise. _ the same mistakes? he doesn't apologise, particularly - the same mistakes? he doesn't apologise, particularly and i the same mistakes? he doesn't apologise, particularly and he i the same mistakes? he doesn't i apologise, particularly and he only knows forward gears. q do you think he ever goes, hang on, would be wrong that was my guess, he is a human being. in essence before, prime ministers in time eventually become a worse of themselves. margaret thatcher was famously dogmatic by the end borisjohnson when you get to him and he�*s backed up when you get to him and he�*s backed up against the wall, there is more paranoia and pettiness unfortunately and him and i can see that, someone was known in many years, you can see that in his behaviour. a part of the problem is, when i would very closely as mayor of london, the job of mayor is a presidentialjob. it�*s

a salesjob for of mayor is a presidentialjob. it�*s a sales job for london and it�*s hard to screw it up. it�*s pretty easy to make lives better being mayor and you don�*t have my position, you don�*t have to be responsible to anyone but the electors of london every four years and your king across the water for subbing prime minister is a totally differentjob. it's minister is a totally differentjob. it�*s governing by consent in a cabinet, a government of equals and that sort of stuff and you must bring your party with you and i think the problems are far deeper than boris personality or integrity. there are about the fact that he did not arrive for the plan he didn�*t have a particular ideology submit a letter of people and it�*s all coming back to haunt him tonight. letter of people and it's all coming back to haunt him tonight.- back to haunt him tonight. three 'unior back to haunt him tonight. three junior ministers _ back to haunt him tonight. three junior ministers of— back to haunt him tonight. three junior ministers of also _ back to haunt him tonight. three junior ministers of also resigned | junior ministers of also resigned just to marker there. the deputy chair of the conservative, he did so alive during an interview with talk tv and jonathan was the

parliamentary private secretary of the northern ireland secretary. he has also resigned and parliamentary private secretary under sajid javid in the health department has also quit as well. this is the scene live at downing street a momentous past few hours for the prime minister for the british government at the resignations of his chancellor and his health secretary, a wide swell of anger within the tory party in nearly all the people we have spoken to in the past hour also have set the prime minister should quit but, he is a prime minister who won in 2019 with the majority and it will take the tory party to throw him out if they decide that is what should happen. many people coming up to speak and give their analysis and

process atkins is downed and he will pick up the batten. —— baton. this is another tumultuous evening as well because after two by election defeats, he lost the party chairman of the conservative party as you have been describing the last couple of hours, he�*s lost his health secretary and he�*s lost his chancellor of the exchequer. as a beginner ongoing coverage and looking at what those two men had said. borisjohnson himself, just over an hour ago, said. borisjohnson himself, just overan hourago, he said. borisjohnson himself, just over an hour ago, he came through the famous front door that�*s behind me and no data has been having a number of meetings and we think he has met with the culture secretary who saw her go in and go out and jump who saw her go in and go out and jump intoa who saw her go in and go out and jump into a ministerial card. she has treated her support for two people have withdrawn their support,

sajid javid and rishi sunak. let�*s look at what sajid javid said, in his resignation letter that�*s been shared publicly, he said... that�*s the health secretary explaining his decision and then, minutes after the resignation was announced, we heard from rishi sunak. the chancellor of the exchequer. the former chancellor of the exchequer... about a month ago, there was a vote of confidence in the prime minister and he wanted but only with 59% of

conservative mps in the house of commons but all of the cabinet publicly at least stayed supportive and that is changed today, let�*s see what sajid javid had to say. and that is changed today, let's see what sajid javid had to say.- what sa'id javid had to say. hello. i'm what sajid javid had to say. hello. i'm 'ust what sajid javid had to say. hello. i'm just going _ what sajid javid had to say. hello. i'm just going to _ what sajid javid had to say. hello. i'm just going to spend _ what sajid javid had to say. hello. i'm just going to spend some i what sajid javid had to say. hello. | i'm just going to spend some time with my— i'm just going to spend some time with my family, thank you for coming — with my family, thank you for coming. thank you. thank you, good evening _ coming. thank you. thank you, good evening. thank you. not coming. thank you. thank you, good evening. thank you.— evening. thank you. not adding to a dreat deal evening. thank you. not adding to a great deal to — evening. thank you. not adding to a great deal to what _ evening. thank you. not adding to a great deal to what he _ evening. thank you. not adding to a great deal to what he asserted i evening. thank you. not adding to a great deal to what he asserted he i great deal to what he asserted he said in his resignation letter. joining me here in downing street is rob who is following all of this arrive, we have stood here a few times the last few months. how do we replace this alongside the vote of confidence with the various pressures back injanuary confidence with the various pressures back in january to confidence with the various pressures back injanuary to connect to the parties here? pressures back in january to connect to the parties here?— to the parties here? it's difficult not to see _ to the parties here? it's difficult not to see this _ to the parties here? it's difficult not to see this as _ to the parties here? it's difficult

not to see this as part _ to the parties here? it's difficult not to see this as part of- to the parties here? it's difficult not to see this as part of the i not to see this as part of the continuing weakening of this position both within the governing conservative party and within the country, this is not a one—off event, this is been building and building and this is probably one of the most serious events that for the first time, we�*ve got a powerful rebellion rather to man many rebellion rather to man many rebellion but to have an attack from within your senior ministers. you have to see it in that wider context and the have to ask yourself the question, could any prime minister come back from this unpopularity and of course, unpopularity notjust with these two men who have resigned but in the wider conservative party. afterjumping into a car by wherever standing, and from other cabinet ministers in which way they may be thinking. the ministers in which way they may be thinkind. ,, ., , thinking. the badness or boris johnson is _ thinking. the badness or boris johnson is if — thinking. the badness or boris johnson is if you _ thinking. the badness or boris johnson is if you lose - thinking. the badness or boris johnson is if you lose a - thinking. the badness or boris johnson is if you lose a few i thinking. the badness or boris i johnson is if you lose a few members of the cabinet, but he seems to have retained the majority of the rest of them but it is still a very big deal indeed to lose two cabinet ministers

and do not forget, one of the reasons why these two men have left is because they feel like they are reading the mood inside the governing conservative party and it�*s something that�*s says we cannot the one like this and i had a call from a conservative mp first thing this morning before i heard from anybody else and family members saying, my colleagues think, we just cannot go on like this. they�*ve had enough and they cannot go on. just a duick enough and they cannot go on. just a quick question _ enough and they cannot go on. just a quick question about _ enough and they cannot go on. just a quick question about the _ enough and they cannot go on. just a quick question about the two men who have resigned, how do they fit into the conservative party and how do they align are not aligned with boris johnson�*s they align are not aligned with borisjohnson�*s leadership more boris johnson�*s leadership more broadly? borisjohnson�*s leadership more broadly? ih boris johnson's leadership more broadl ? . boris johnson's leadership more broadl ? , .. boris johnson's leadership more broadl ? , ., , boris johnson's leadership more broadl? , ,, broadly? in terms of rishi sunak in terms of his _ broadly? in terms of rishi sunak in terms of his resignation, _ broadly? in terms of rishi sunak in terms of his resignation, he's i broadly? in terms of rishi sunak in terms of his resignation, he's had. broadly? in terms of rishi sunak in| terms of his resignation, he's had a bit of a broadside of the prime minister ideologically sing the borisjohnson someone wants to promise the public everything yet, we'd love to have lots of public spending and we can lower taxes so rishi sunak is planted is flagged possibly as a future challenger for the leadership is a low tax conservative but someone who thinks

that you're going to have to go forward and ran the state. mentioning some the people who have very much still on borisjohnson side, a stick you through them. these are the following people have not resigned but come out and said they are supporting the prime minister. she says she is 100% behind mrjohnson we have heard from business secretaries who have reported to be staying at the defence secretary will remain in place and bbc news understands as the justice secretary and prime minister is two jobs and patel has confirmed she is staying and i mentioned something to the effect will come as a surprise that i'm 100% behind the prime minister and consistency always gets the big decisions right and brexit opportunities jacob rees mogg says it was businesses mutual. ——

business as usual. i seriously the prime minister took them. let's talk to mike clancy. secretary of the prospect union which covers parliamentary staff, thank you for joining us on bbc news. what is your reading of how the conservative party and the government has dealt with the concerns raised about the former deputy chief whip? i said former deputy chief whip? i said earlier today _ former deputy chief whip? i said earlier today that _ former deputy chief whip? i said earlier today that sometimes - earlier today that sometimes governments unravel in days but this one has out done that in minutes this evening and we trace this back to the leadership in relation to that mp and failing to see backing him in the way that they have with this note down and we have been saying for some months now that the parliamentary state is not safe in the government is failing to affect leadership here and we have not seen

the consequences of that internet�*s events. is the consequences of that internet's events. , . , , ., the consequences of that internet's events. i, ., , ., events. is a very strong phrase to use that the — events. is a very strong phrase to use that the parliamentary - events. is a very strong phrase to use that the parliamentary of - events. is a very strong phrase to l use that the parliamentary of state is not seen. but his major draw the conclusion? is not seen. but his ma'or draw the conclusion?— is not seen. but his ma'or draw the conclusion? , ,., , conclusion? event frequent episodes of behaviour — conclusion? event frequent episodes of behaviour being _ conclusion? event frequent episodes of behaviour being called into - of behaviour being called into question, investigation started and there were over 50 cases which are running and we have been saying for some time now that in order to give natalie staff work of the estates play constituencies to go into the parliamentary states and the confidence that can be secure and to require an mp not to attend. it is this failure to apply the standards that will apply in any work placed on the country and people were listening to this item now will know that these places will not condone the behaviours that you see on the parliamentary area and other people have gotten the right to be able to build their confidently and conduct the business. we did not reach that

conclusion lightly but there been so many outcomes where it is impossible to deny that that conclusion is there. j to deny that that conclusion is there. ., ., ., ~ to deny that that conclusion is there. ., ., .,~ ., to deny that that conclusion is there. ., ., ., , . ., , there. i want to take a few sections that mexicans _ there. i want to take a few sections that mexicans to _ there. i want to take a few sections that mexicans to say _ there. i want to take a few sections that mexicans to say that _ there. i want to take a few sections that mexicans to say that those - there. i want to take a few sections. that mexicans to say that those were watching some pbs on america ijust ——i ijust —— i want to see, i want to takea ijust —— i want to see, i want to take a second to say to those watching on pbs in america thank you for watching us. those who have tried to engage with the parliamentary authorities and the ruling conservative party and what is been your experience.— ruling conservative party and what is been your experience. there is a moment of — is been your experience. there is a moment of responding _ is been your experience. there is a moment of responding to - moment of responding to correspondent those who want to speak truth into power. we have a meeting with the speaker and that will be hopefully able to see some progress. parliament should not look

above the rest of the nation and constitutional role to the having the purpose standards, we've addressed this issue over several months and engaging with the speaker, but what we have to have its proper leadership. this evening, as i come to this item, i've been in this house for an item on members we have convened people on the nuclear industry, 91,000 civil servants waiting to hear their fates industry, 91,000 civil servants waiting to hear theirfates in relation to previous government announcements we have a cost—of—living crisis. so, all of this comes together and the need for stable and coherent government or proper leadership in this novel we have seen in recent months. thank ou ve have seen in recent months. thank you very much _ have seen in recent months. thank you very much indeed. _ have seen in recent months. thank you very much indeed. -- - have seen in recent months. thank you very much indeed. -- not - have seen in recent months. thank you very much indeed. -- not what have seen in recent months. thank. you very much indeed. -- not what we you very much indeed. —— not what we have seen. seeing that it was a mistake to go through the appointment of chris pincher as deputy chief whip and understands the concern and he has apologised for that and one of the controversies here is not only his

handling of the allegations but what is happened in the next few days were numbered ten and a number of ministers have assisted the prime minister did not know specifically about these concerns and then today, it turned out with the exception of number ten that they did know and we are taught the prime minister forgot but now has realised that he was told. as you can imagine, the labour party is watching these events with great interest. is he from the opposition. great interest. is he from the opposition-— great interest. is he from the o- osition. . , , , ., opposition. cabinet ministers of some he found _ opposition. cabinet ministers of some he found a _ opposition. cabinet ministers of some he found a conscience - opposition. cabinet ministers of| some he found a conscience and that's all well and goodbye think the rest of the cabinet need to go now and need to do right by the british public. it's pretty obvious that boris johnson british public. it's pretty obvious that borisjohnson is not fit british public. it's pretty obvious that boris johnson is not fit to british public. it's pretty obvious that borisjohnson is not fit to be prime minister and i'm glad that some of the cabinet are starting to grow a backbone and realise that was like when you think borisjohnson will go? he should've gone a long time ago but borisjohnson likes in the integrity and reporting to the ministerial code, he does not believe in honesty and integrity he

doesn't believe in the principles of public office but i'm glad some of the cabinet are realising that and the rest of them conservative party should be ashamed of the prop them up for as long as they have done. i of the prop them up for as long as they have done.— they have done. i don't know why it's takin: they have done. i don't know why it's taking them _ they have done. i don't know why it's taking them so _ they have done. i don't know why it's taking them so long, - they have done. i don't know why it's taking them so long, we've i they have done. i don't know why i it's taking them so long, we've had two ethics advises in the last two years that borisjohnson hand—picked that of resign from office and even the civil servants have caught the prime minister out and i think this is been untenable for a long time and really needs to get on. he’s and really needs to get on. he's lettin: and really needs to get on. he's letting the _ and really needs to get on. he's letting the country _ and really needs to get on. he's letting the country down - and really needs to get on. he�*s letting the country down and is making everyone look bad by his own actions. the salamis politician stand for a politician should do the right thing and resign. if you're just running the couple were down here downing street for ongoing coverage of the resignations of rishi sunak and sajid javid. both in the different ways have drawn the conclusion that the prime minister, they do not want to serve at the

prime minister any more and they departed the government. now, this story has escalated to the chris pincher, the deputy chief whip with allegations of sexual misconduct have emerged and they were suspended by the conservative party that initially but within a couple of days of the story breaking there's been increasing focus on when mr johnson, borisjohnson, was told about these allegations concerning chris pincher because initially, number ten said he had not been told and then today, it was confirmed actually, he had and that he initially forgotten about that. prime minister, do you admit it was a grave error to appoint chris pincher? i a grave error to appoint chris pincher? ~ ., , ., a grave error to appoint chris pincher? ~ . , ., , ., ~ pincher? i think it was a mistake and i apologise _ pincher? i think it was a mistake and i apologise for— pincher? i think it was a mistake and i apologise for it. _ pincher? i think it was a mistake and i apologise for it. in - and i apologise for it. in hindsight, it was the wrong thing to do. i apologise to everyone who's been badly affected by it, and i just want to make absolutely clear

that there is no place in this government for anybody who is predatory or abuses their position of power. did predatory or abuses their position of ower. , _, ., ., predatory or abuses their position of ower. , ., ., of power. did you want to 'oke i would hope i of power. did you want to 'oke i would hope enter�* of power. did you want to 'oke i would hope enter by fl of power. did you want to joke i would hope enter by name, - of power. did you want to joke i i would hope enter by name, pinch of power. did you want to joke i - would hope enter by name, pinch or by nature"?— by nature"? one of the reasons i recret by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this _ by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this so — by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this so much _ by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this so much is _ by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this so much is at - by nature"? one of the reasons i regret this so much is at three i regret this so much is at three years ago there was a complaint made against chris pincher in the foreign office, the complaint was cleared up, he apologised. it was raised with me, orally i was briefed on it. it happened and if i had my time again, i would think back on it and recognise that he wasn't going to learn recognise that he wasn't going to [earn his lesson, and he wasn't going to change. learn his lesson, and he wasn't going to change-— learn his lesson, and he wasn't going to change. you didn't deny usina the going to change. you didn't deny using the phrase _ going to change. you didn't deny using the phrase there. - going to change. you didn't deny using the phrase there. this - going to change. you didn't deny using the phrase there. this is i using the phrase there. this is about truth, about whether people can believe what you say. and we now

know that those who speak for you over the last few days have said things that turned out to be untrue. did you like to them?— things that turned out to be untrue. did you like to them? know, and let me exolain — did you like to them? know, and let me explain what happened. -- - did you like to them? know, and let me explain what happened. -- lie i did you like to them? know, and let| me explain what happened. -- lie to them. we me explain what happened. -- lie to them- we are _ me explain what happened. -- lie to them. we are talking _ me explain what happened. -- lie to them. we are talking about - me explain what happened. -- lie to them. we are talking about a - me explain what happened. -- lie to them. we are talking about a series| them. we are talking about a series of appointments — them. we are talking about a series of appointments over _ them. we are talking about a series of appointments over several - them. we are talking about a seriesj of appointments over several years. chris pincher came into government as deputy chief went before i became prime minister, he was moved to the foreign office, he then went on to be a ministerfor foreign office, he then went on to be a minister for housing, foreign office, he then went on to be a ministerfor housing, we foreign office, he then went on to be a minister for housing, we then moved him back to be deputy chief whip. as i say about two and a half years ago, i got this complaint, it was something that was only raised with me very cursory, but i wish that we had, in particular had acted on it and that he had not continued, because he then went on i'm afraid

to behave as far as we can see, according to the allegations we have very badly. i'm sorry for those who have been badly affected by a. let’s have been badly affected by a. let's look at what — have been badly affected by a. let's look at what your _ have been badly affected by a. let's look at what your spokespeople have said. on friday, your official spokesperson said you were unaware of specific allegations. bluntly, that wasn't true, was it? let me tell ou that wasn't true, was it? let me tell you what — that wasn't true, was it? let me tell you what is _ that wasn't true, was it? let me tell you what is true. _ that wasn't true, was it? let me tell you what is true. i _ that wasn't true, was it? let me tell you what is true. i was - that wasn't true, was it? let me | tell you what is true. i was aware backin tell you what is true. i was aware back in 2019, made aware of a specific allegation against chris pincher that was involved. but your spokesperson _ pincher that was involved. but your spokesperson on — pincher that was involved. but your spokesperson on friday... - pincher that was involved. but your spokesperson on friday... your - spokesperson on friday... your spokesman on friday said you were unaware of the specific allegation. on sunday, a cabinet minister said, "i have been informed this morning that you didn't that she didn't know about specific allegations." another minister had been given categorical

insurance you were not aware. day after day, people speaking on your behalf, talking rubbish. i’m after day, people speaking on your behalf, talking rubbish.— behalf, talking rubbish. i'm afraid i was focusing _ behalf, talking rubbish. i'm afraid i was focusing on _ behalf, talking rubbish. i'm afraid i was focusing on other _ behalf, talking rubbish. i'm afraid i was focusing on other things - behalf, talking rubbish. i'm afraid i was focusing on other things at. i was focusing on other things at the time. what i tell you is my recollection of events. and my recollection of events. and my recollection is that there was one complaint raised with me specifically — there was other rumour and innuendo, specifically — there was other rumourand innuendo, but specifically — there was other rumour and innuendo, but there is one thing in particular that was raised... ~ . ,, one thing in particular that was raised... ~ . ., one thing in particular that was raised... . ., ., ., raised... which you had forgotten about. it raised... which you had forgotten about- it was _ raised... which you had forgotten about. it was a _ raised... which you had forgotten about. it was a long _ raised... which you had forgotten about. it was a long time - raised... which you had forgotten about. it was a long time ago - raised... which you had forgotten about. it was a long time ago andj about. it was a long time ago and only raised _ about. it was a long time ago and only raised orally _ about. it was a long time ago and only raised orally with me. - about. it was a long time ago and only raised orally with me. but i only raised orally with me. but that, chris, is no excuse and i should have acted on it, and i should have acted on it, and i should have made sure that we drew the proper conclusion. and when i look back on it, yes, what i wanted was to give chris pincher if not the benefit of the doubt, than the ability to prove he could do better.

and i'm afraid that he couldn't, and i feel very bitterly disappointed. what are you doing better? serra; i feel very bitterly disappointed. what are you doing better? sorry for the mistake — what are you doing better? sorry for the mistake i made. _ what are you doing better? sorry for the mistake i made. what _ what are you doing better? sorry for the mistake i made. what are you i the mistake i made. what are you doin: the mistake i made. what are you doing better? _ the mistake i made. what are you doing better? lord _ the mistake i made. what are you doing better? lord mcdonald - the mistake i made. what are you doing better? lord mcdonald said| the mistake i made. what are you - doing better? lord mcdonald said you keep changing your story, you are not telling the truth. that was a statement of fact from him, wasn't it? j statement of fact from him, wasn't it? “ statement of fact from him, wasn't it? 4' �* , ., it? i think he's referring to the statements that _ it? i think he's referring to the statements that have - it? i think he's referring to the statements that have come i it? i think he's referring to the| statements that have come out it? i think he's referring to the - statements that have come out over the last few days. i'm giving you what happened, i'm telling you my account of it, i think when i look back at it, i wish that i had thought about the briefing that i had in 2019 about the complaint that was made when he was at the foreign office. even though it was brief, i should've thought, you know, maybe he shouldn't be staying on at the foreign office, maybe he shouldn't be moving on to housing. 50

foreign office, maybe he shouldn't be moving on to housing. so there's the prime minister _ be moving on to housing. so there's the prime minister speaking to - be moving on to housing. so there's the prime minister speaking to the i the prime minister speaking to the bbc�*s the prime minister speaking to the bbc�*s political editor chris mason. one cabinet minister, a lot of us have been keeping out for, nadhim zahawi walked in through the door of number ten. what we wouldn't like to know about the conversation that may be happening with the prime minister, we haven't heard from him since the resignations of rishi sunak and sajid javid. in other resignation to tell you about — the uk parliamentary... nicola richards has resigned. another resignation from the government, the private secretary for the department for transport, nicola richards, has resigned. we also heard from the scottish first minister, nicola sturgeon, who's been tweeting her reaction. she says everyone in boris johnson's government should go — based on statements in the last few

hours, that won't happen in the near future. she says... she goes on to say... bearin bear in mind we've been hearing the premise or explaining himself earlier on an number ten and we've also heard a statement from the house of commons, as well, from one of mrjohnson's colleague saying he had initially forgotten he'd been told about particular concerns around chris pincher, but had remembered that and it subsequently informed his decisions. that's nicola sturgeon, we played you angela rayner a while ago. let's hear from angela rayner a while ago. let's hearfrom sir ed davey, he's tweeted...

perhaps not surprising the liberal democrats and labour party both reiterating their calls for prime minister borisjohnson to go. so far he shows no signs of doing that, but he shows no signs of doing that, but he has lost two of his most senior cabinet ministers. let's speak to nigel elson, political editor at the sunday mirror and the sunday people. —— nigel elton. what's your reading of these two resignations and the impact they are having? it’s of these two resignations and the impact they are having?— of these two resignations and the impact they are having? it's got the feelin: of impact they are having? it's got the feeling of the _ impact they are having? it's got the feeling of the last _ impact they are having? it's got the feeling of the last days _ impact they are having? it's got the feeling of the last days of _ impact they are having? it's got the feeling of the last days of margaret| feeling of the last days of margaret thatcher about it. i certainly think boris johnson's days thatcher about it. i certainly think borisjohnson's days are numbered. the difficulty, of course, because there's no actual mechanism to get rid of him, we aren't quite sure the number of days he actually has left. but we've had the cabinet resignations, we've had cabinet coming out in support of him, liz truss, priti patel aren't going. so

technically he could actually survive this. but you can see the support drifting away. the vice chair of the party has quit on live tv. you just mentioned another pps going, that's three so far this evening, a trade employer has quit. you can see the support within the party is drifting away. if there was a no—confidence vote now, there's no question borisjohnson would lose it. question boris johnson would lose it. �* ., ~ question boris johnson would lose it. but the thing on mrjohnson's side is, by _ it. but the thing on mrjohnson's side is, by the — it. but the thing on mrjohnson's side is, by the rules _ it. but the thing on mrjohnson's side is, by the rules as - it. but the thing on mrjohnson's side is, by the rules as they - it. but the thing on mrjohnson's i side is, by the rules as they stand, there can't be another confidence vote for a year after the last one, and the last one was in earlyjune, so he's got 11 months before that can happen. so he's got 11 months before that can happen-— so he's got 11 months before that canhauen. ,, ,~ ., can happen. unless they change the rules. can happen. unless they change the rules- when — can happen. unless they change the rules- when i _ can happen. unless they change the rules. when i was _ can happen. unless they change the rules. when i was in _ can happen. unless they change the rules. when i was in the _ can happen. unless they change the rules. when i was in the house of i rules. when i was in the house of commons today, i detected a huge change of mood from last week where more and more mps are saying he's got to go. so we are starting the

elections for the backbench of the 1922 committee which decides these things. a lot of people who are standing for election want those rules changed. now the question is, how quickly can that actually happen? but at the moment you get the feel that is mps now reallyjust want him to go. in the old days, it was men in gray suits who would tell the prime minister that his time was up. we may see a repeat of that, men and gray suits which tends to be the party shop steward, graham brady, may do that. party shop steward, graham brady, may do that-— may do that. nigel, thanks for 'oinin: may do that. nigel, thanks for joining us. _ may do that. nigel, thanks for joining us, nigel— may do that. nigel, thanks for joining us, nigel nelson - may do that. nigel, thanks for joining us, nigel nelson who l may do that. nigel, thanks for| joining us, nigel nelson who is may do that. nigel, thanks for - joining us, nigel nelson who is with the sunday mirror and the sunday people. it is worth reiterating we are very much focused on the health secretary and the chancellor of the exchequer surviving democrat resigning. borisjohnson has lost two by elections and on the morning

after that in the early hours, his chair, oliver dowden, resigned. one man who's not going anywhere is the minister for brexit opportunities, jacob rees—mogg. as you're about to see, my colleague ian watson has been making every effort to to him. well, ifully support been making every effort to to him. well, i fully support the prime minister, i think that he is the right man for thejob, he has a very significant mandate from the british people, and these squabbles happen in politics, but the best politicians care on calmly. what do ou think politicians care on calmly. what do you think the _ politicians care on calmly. what do you think the chancellor _ politicians care on calmly. what do you think the chancellor and - you think the chancellor and exchequer colour —— x chancellor up to? exchequer colour -- x chancellor up to? ., , ., ,~' exchequer colour -- x chancellor up to?_ there's - exchequer colour -- x chancellor up i to?_ there's jacob to? you must ask them. there's jacob rees-mogg- — to? you must ask them. there's jacob rees-mogg- i — to? you must ask them. there's jacob rees-mogg- i was _ to? you must ask them. there's jacob rees-mogg. i was mentioning - to? you must ask them. there's jacob rees-mogg. i was mentioning beforel rees—mogg. i was mentioning before we saw that clip that oliver dowden, the then tory party chairman, resigned after those two by election defeats. one of the vice chairs of the conservative party, one of the

rising stars of the party has also resigned his position. he did so live on talk tv. i resigned his position. he did so live on talk tv.— resigned his position. he did so live on talk tv. i think you have to resin, live on talk tv. i think you have to resign, because _ live on talk tv. i think you have to resign, because i _ live on talk tv. i think you have to resign, because i can't _ live on talk tv. i think you have to resign, because i can't serve - live on talk tv. i think you have to | resign, because i can't serve under the prime — resign, because i can't serve under the prime minister. i say that with regret— the prime minister. i say that with regret because i think this government has done some great things _ government has done some great things i— government has done some great things. i think the prime minister has a _ things. i think the prime minister has a very— things. i think the prime minister has a very strong legacy in a huge range _ has a very strong legacy in a huge range of— has a very strong legacy in a huge range of areas, but i think when you've _ range of areas, but i think when you've lost _ range of areas, but i think when you've lost trust of people in the prime _ you've lost trust of people in the prime minister asked that the confidence vote be given time to restore — confidence vote be given time to restore that trust, i took that but it's been— restore that trust, i took that but it's been clear particularly for somebody who is in support —— in losing _ somebody who is in support —— in losing the — somebody who is in support —— in losing the support of his two closest — losing the support of his two closest colleagues at the time has come _ closest colleagues at the time has come for— closest colleagues at the time has come for him to stand down. one of the vice chairs _ come for him to stand down. one of the vice chairs of _ come for him to stand down. one of the vice chairs of the _ come for him to stand down. one of the vice chairs of the conservative i the vice chairs of the conservative party outlining his resignation. another arrival here at downing street — we are also keeping a very close eye on whether or not it deems a hobby comes out that door. he went

in about ten minutes ago —— nadhim zahawi. we don't know how that conversation is going but we are keeping a very close eye. if you can hear a band playing, by the way, and some banging, there's pageantry going on about 300 metres to the side of downing street. that's what's going on in the background there. let's also bring in michael crick, the politicaljournalist who's watched many prime ministers experiencing turbulent times. thanks forjoining us on bbc news. how do you assess this one versus other spots of bother that borisjohnson has been in? this spots of bother that boris johnson has been in?— has been in? this is far, far worse than all the _ has been in? this is far, far worse than all the other— has been in? this is far, far worse than all the other spots _ has been in? this is far, far worse j than all the other spots of bother. it is a kin to thatcher in 1990. and to have two such senior ministers on the same day — i mean, the chancellor and another senior minister on the same day within minutes of each other and, as you

are saying, only days after the chairman of the conservative party. 0k, chairman of the conservative party. ok, the rest of the cabinet seemed to be solid, there's a few people we haven't heard from yet. but conservative backbenchers at the lower levels, are being much more aggressive in their calls for johnson to go. you had wil walden on the programme half an hour ago, or enough borisjohnson's senior enough boris johnson's senior advisers enough borisjohnson's senior advisers from his days as london mayor, saying he couldn't see a way out for boris johnson from this. mayor, saying he couldn't see a way out for borisjohnson from this. nor can i i've long said that prime ministers tend to stay in office a lot longer than we expect and they tend to be tenacious people. he will try to stay in office, but i can't see how he does. i think the composition of the 1922 committee will change, you have the makeup of people who want to change the rules to allow for another vote of no—confidence. that will happen either in the next few days or

parliament goes on their summer holidays, or when they come back in september. i think inevitably he will go. the alternative for him to go is for some of those people who have expressed their loyalty tonight privately to get together and may be privately to get together and may he go in a delegation, or one by one to him to say, "your time is up." that's how margaret thatcher went in 1990, eventually members of her cabinet told her shejust 1990, eventually members of her cabinet told her she just couldn't carry on. she had lost the support of the party and she resigned. those are the two ways he can go, and i think it is now inevitable. it's just got to the stage where — and frankly conservative mps will be thinking the pincher affair, this man has shown such a lack of integrity, shown himself to be so untrustworthy that future incidents like this are bound to happen. he

never changes his behaviour or his character, that will be going through the heads of so many conservative mps.— through the heads of so many conservative mps. ~ . . ., , ., conservative mps. michael, as we are talkin: , conservative mps. michael, as we are talking. let's — conservative mps. michael, as we are talking, let's show _ conservative mps. michael, as we are talking, let's show everyone - talking, let's show everyone watching pictures of nadhim zahawi, very senior cabinet minister, arriving just a few minutes ago. he has signalled he's not going anywhere. we think he's inside downing street at the moment talking with borisjohnson, he's certainly inside because we saw him go through the door. if he and some of the other big beasts within the cabinet line up behind mrjohnson, is it not possible that he can sure his position up?— possible that he can sure his position up? possible that he can sure his osition u? , ., ., , position up? maybe for a few days. it's interesting _ position up? maybe for a few days. it's interesting to _ position up? maybe for a few days. it's interesting to see _ position up? maybe for a few days. it's interesting to see no _ position up? maybe for a few days. it's interesting to see no deems . it's interesting to see no deems a hobby who hasn't said anything publicly yet so far as i'm aware —— nadhim zahawi. but he's gone around suggesting he is — there's probably talk of him being health secretary, conceivably the chancellor. health secretary would be the more logical job for him because he was brought

in to handle the vaccinations programme, and did so successfully, and that's what led to his promotion to being education secretary. some questions about his past business relationships 25 years ago with the disgraced conservative novelist jeffrey archer. but he's close to johnson, he's been incredibly loyal. it was a long time before david cameron promoted him, butjohnson has put him in the cabinet as education secretary, it could be a promotion to health, conceivably to chancellor. i think liz truss as the chancellor. i think liz truss as the chancellor would be more believable. the fact that he hasn't yet announced the chancellor is significant. on previous occasions when chancellors have resigned, often the replacement he's announced — it's now two and a half hours since rishi sunak announced his resignation. that i think is in itself a sign ofjust how difficult things are for borisjohnson and

downing street right now. i’m downing street right now. i'm interested _ downing street right now. i'm interested that _ downing street right now. i'm interested that you think he's taking his time, some people watching may think taking three hours to pick a new chancellor it doesn't seem unreasonable. those resignations came between 9pm secular it's important because the post of chancellor, you need someone as chancellor to send out the signal that government is carrying on and to reassure the markets, and so on, which is 2a hours a day these days. that's why replacing the chancellor is so important. the health secretary less so, that can wait until tomorrow or the day after. and michael, this story began with — we will speak with a journalist who broke that story in a minute, about further concerns and allegations regarding chris pincher�*s a la behaviour. but there is concern about whether the promisor was being truthful when he talked about what

he did and didn't know. that included the regular press briefings number ten will give to the lobby journalists here in westminster. how significant do you think it is that, for several days, they were saying one thing, then today they were confirming that what they were saying wasn't true?— saying wasn't true? hugely significant. _ saying wasn't true? hugely significant. the _ saying wasn't true? hugely significant. the problems | saying wasn't true? hugely| significant. the problems of saying wasn't true? hugely - significant. the problems of boris johnson, his character, his personality, and frankly his lack of integrity, in my view, and the views of many other people including the x chancellor and x health secretary, has infected the whole of government. it's infected civil servants who have effectively had to go out and lie on his behalf. it's affected fellow cabinet ministers who had to go out and mislead the public on the radio and the television, and whose own reputations have been besmirched by doing this day after day. and it's

affected the whole tenor and tone of the government and his party. the one area of his party where he's probably got quite a lot of support right now is amongst the activists. but ultimately even there, it will be drifting away because in two and a half years time, they've got to fight an election and they've got to go out and explain all this to the british public.— go out and explain all this to the british public. they do, we'll see if mrjohnson _ british public. they do, we'll see if mrjohnson leaves _ british public. they do, we'll see if mrjohnson leaves the - british public. they do, we'll see if mrjohnson leaves the concert | british public. they do, we'll see i if mrjohnson leaves the concert -- if mrjohnson leaves the concert —— leads the conservatives into that election. the speed at which british politics is moving at the moment, who knows. michael, thanks very much. just want to pass on with the former chief whip of the conservative party, mark harper, has been saying. he tweeted, "tonight we've seen leadership from rishi sunak and sajid javid, honourable decisions made by honourable man. the conservative party still has so much to offer to our country. it's time for our fresh start." that's

mark harper — evidently boris johnson doesn't agree, no sign of him going anywhere. i was mentioning this latest tumultuous few days for borisjohnson, beginning with a story in the sun. we can speak to the reporter behind that story, noah hoffman — thanks forjoining us on the bbc. hoffman - thanks for 'oining us on the bbc. ., ., ., hoffman - thanks for 'oining us on . the asc— when the bbc. thanks for having me. when ou had the bbc. thanks for having me. when you had the — the bbc. thanks for having me. when you had the story. — the bbc. thanks for having me. when you had the story, did _ the bbc. thanks for having me. when you had the story, did you _ the bbc. thanks for having me. when you had the story, did you imagine, i you had the story, did you imagine, and you are about to publish it on the website, that it would have this kind of impact? hate the website, that it would have this kind of impact?— kind of impact? we knew it would have a very _ kind of impact? we knew it would have a very large _ kind of impact? we knew it would have a very large impact - kind of impact? we knew it would have a very large impact and - have a very large impact and especially once we got it out, it would be a bit of a pandora's box, because allegations relating to this mp or what we like to call an open secret. so many people knew about the really, because so many people were affected allegedly by this individual. so we knew it would have a big impact, butl individual. so we knew it would have a big impact, but i think when the prime minister stumbled over whether or not he knew about allegations, a

specific allegation where a formal complaint was made and that was upheld, that was another twist in this ongoing saga of multiple flights that borisjohnson has been trying to put out week after week —— fires. so we knew it would be big but tonight has proven that to us. in the days that followed your original story when number ten was saying the prime minister didn't know about any specific allegations about chris pincher, what were your sources in westminster saying to you about the position number ten was taking? i’m about the position number ten was takin: ? �* ., ., �* about the position number ten was takina? �* . ., �* ., about the position number ten was taking? i'm aware i'm not allowed to swear on live — taking? i'm aware i'm not allowed to swear on live television _ taking? i'm aware i'm not allowed to swear on live television so _ taking? i'm aware i'm not allowed to swear on live television so i - taking? i'm aware i'm not allowed to swear on live television so i don't - swear on live television so i don't think i can accurately relay what sources are telling me, but they were very angry because in their view, so many people, so many powerful people, higher ups in the westminster ecosystem knew what was going on. in fairness, westminster ecosystem knew what was going on. infairness, if westminster ecosystem knew what was going on. in fairness, if nobody puts forward a formal complaint it is a lot harder for people to act,

but nonetheless questions will be raised, so they were really annoyed with the response. people whom i've never spoken to before have gotten in touch with similar stories and allegations notjust relating to chris pincher, but the mps, some of whom aren't even in the commons any more. they wondered when things would change if people didn't own up and try to blab their way around these very serious stories. so people really annoyed in short. star; people really annoyed in short. stay with me a moment, ijust want to bring up — i think we can call this speculation, but the labour party is engaging with it — it's all about steve barclay, because wes streeting, labour's shadow health secretary has tweeted, "congratulations on becoming the shortest serving health secretary in history. so clearly the labour party think steve barclay is going to lead

the health team. we got up shortly no confirmation of that. do you have any indications of who might be getting these two big gigs? £311" getting these two big gigs? our sources were _ getting these two big gigs? oh" sources were suggesting that getting these two big gigs? hj' sources were suggesting that steve barclay would be in line for health. there's been a lot of whispers about what is know zahawi would do because there was a lot of chat from westminster from reliable sources that he was possibly buying up the big role in downing street. so how he acts now could be key in his powerplay. we heard there may have been some negotiations, and this is just an understanding, it's not confirmed, regarding whether he could be made chancellor, and that would be a way to discourage him from sending in another bombshell resignation letter. that's another name that's been tossed around from the chant —— for the chancellor

role. the chant -- for the chancellor role. ., ., ., , ., role. noah, thanks for 'oining us on what is such — role. noah, thanks for 'oining us on what is such a h role. noah, thanks for 'oining us on what is such a busy — role. noah, thanks forjoining us on what is such a busy night. - role. noah, thanks forjoining us on what is such a busy night. if- role. noah, thanks forjoining us on what is such a busy night. if you'rel what is such a busy night. if you're watching on bbc news, thanks for joining us here on downing street. you get ongoing coverage on the bbc life page —— bbc live page. let's continue our rich. we have a telegraph journalist saying they believe steve barclay will be the next health secretary —— continue our coverage. we should emphasise even though the labour party is sarcastically tweeting congratulations to mr barclay, the bbc is unable to confirm that either vacancy has been confirmed. rishi sunak has resigned. let's bring in rob watson. whoever borisjohnson chooses will choose quite a lot about how much power he has in the

party and where things will go. don't forget that for most voters, they have very little idea about the personalities and the government, they care about who the prime minister is. but all the anecdotal evidence suggests they just minister is. but all the anecdotal evidence suggests theyjust don't have a general idea of where the governments are competent and know what direction heading in. in terms of how voters see it, i wouldn't read too much into it. but you're right, we will be able to tell who he thinks he considers loyal and reliable. ~ ., he thinks he considers loyal and reliable. . . , ., ., ,, he thinks he considers loyal and reliable. . ., , reliable. what did you make of rishi sunak in his — reliable. what did you make of rishi sunak in his resignation _ reliable. what did you make of rishi sunak in his resignation letter - sunak in his resignation letter making reference to a difference on policy? so it wasn't only about the prime minister's integrity and leadership, he was making a point that he would be doing different things to mrjohnson. do you buy that? it things to mrjohnson. do you buy that? , ~ , that? it seemed like it might be tossible that? it seemed like it might be possible it _ that? it seemed like it might be possible it was _ that? it seemed like it might be possible it was a _ that? it seemed like it might be possible it was a bid _ that? it seemed like it might be possible it was a bid for - possible it was a bid for leadership. if you're the kind of

conservative traditional fiscal conservative traditional fiscal conservative who believes that you need to rein in the size of the state and cutback public spending, make sure britain isn't too in debt if you want to cut might well be your man. if you want to cut might well be your man-— your man. but he also said this mitht be your man. but he also said this might be his — your man. but he also said this might be his last _ your man. but he also said this might be his last ministerial. your man. but he also said this. might be his last ministerialjob. that's to make the point that this is an act of principle, "this might be the end of my political career," but then he plants a flag there in terms of or he might stand where he in this position.— in this position. when we were standint in this position. when we were standing here _ in this position. when we were standing here a _ in this position. when we were standing here a month - in this position. when we were standing here a month ago - in this position. when we were . standing here a month ago talking about the vote of confidence in the prime minister, which he won but with 59%, which isn't seen as a great outcome for him, much was made of the fact that those who rebelled against him had a particularly coordinated, almost stumbling along the line to trigger the vote. do you think these two have coordinated? it think these two have coordinated? it definitely doesn't look like a coordinated attack from the cabinet because the rest of them are

staying. so to that extent, no. but i'm glad you brought up our little discussion here about the vote of confidence because to try to get this in some sort of context, what's happened with the resignation of these two cabinet ministers is the deepening of a crisis in boris johnson's leadership that's been going on for months. but i think it's the vote of confidence that really marked the beginning of the end of borisjohnson's leadership. because one is fighting this battle behind us, a literal rear garden paddle behind us, going back to recent history, no prime minister has recovered from a vote of confidence even when they want it, look at margaret thatcher and theresa may. in the end it's all endedin theresa may. in the end it's all ended in two —— literal rear garden battle. no matter how you shuffle a cabinet, the real problem is in the conservative party, that sense of the draining away of faith and the prime minister being able to turn around his fortunes and the fortunes

of the party. has around his fortunes and the fortunes of the party-— of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening _ of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening up — of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening up a _ of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening up a pdf_ of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening up a pdf here - of the party. as you were talking, i'm opening up a pdf here on - i'm opening up a pdf here on my phone because i'm seeing a letter that the prime minister has sent to rishi sunak. he says, "dear rishi sunak, i'm sorry to receive your letter. you've provided outstanding service to the country, in march 2020 weeks after your point, we introduced the national lockdown to protect people from the pandemic," he goes on to talk about the furlough scheme in ukraine. he finishes by saying, "we began to deliver tax cuts to families including this week, i enormously valued your advice and will miss working with you in government." very cordial?— working with you in government." ve cordial? ., ., ., very cordial? from what i take from that and everyone _ very cordial? from what i take from that and everyone should _ very cordial? from what i take from that and everyone should take - very cordial? from what i take from that and everyone should take from | that and everyone should take from that, borisjohnson is not a man who will leave this building willingly. he is going to fight and fight, and fight. all you can say is that all the president, it's a tough ask. thanks very much, rob. the prime minister is sending letters to the

rishi sunak and sajid javid acknowledging their resignation, he's busy down here behind me and downing street working out who will replace them. we still await news on that. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. is this the beginning of the end for borisjohnson? the chancellor and the health secretary resign after the prime minister admits he should knew than he's let on about chris pincher�*s behaviour and should not have appointed to the whips office. i think it was a mistake, and i apologise for its. in hindsight, it was the wrong thing to do. first to go was health secretary sajid javid — who told the country he has 'lost confidence' in the prime minister. minutes later came the resignation of the chancellor rishi sunak, who said the public had a right to expect that government would "be conducted properly, competently and seriously"

since then the pressure has been mounting over the pincher saga, a number ofjunior minister have gone as well as the vice chair of the conservative party who resigned live on air — labour says the resignation are not enough. the tory party is corrupted. changing one man at the top won't fix it. we need a real change of government and a fresh start for britain. so what next for borisjohnson? over the next hour — we'll look back at an extraordinary day in westminster — we we will keep an eye on the resignations and we will get all the reaction from downing st and our expert panel. tonight with the context, caroline flint — former labour cabinet minister — it vaizey — the former conservative cabinet minister — joe twyman from deltapoll and in downing street for us tonight — my colleague ros atkins. hello welcome to the programme. borisjohnson is the great political survivor. but it looks tonight like he is

finally running out of road. the prime minister has lost not one, but two of his senior cabinet colleagues today, and surely there are others now considering their position. the chancellor rishi sunak and the health secretary sajid javid resigned within minutes of each other, in what looked like a co—cordinated move within cabinet. in his letter of reisgnation mr sunak said we cannot, continue like this. there are others who have resigned in the last hour, we will get to that shortly, but lets begin in downing street with our colleague ros atkins who is there for us. we know that the chief weight has gonein we know that the chief weight has gone in tonight to speak to boris johnson. so what do you imagine the conversation going on behind that famous old door?—

conversation going on behind that famous old door? well, i think any leader in this _ famous old door? well, i think any leader in this situation _ famous old door? well, i think any leader in this situation wants - famous old door? well, i think any leader in this situation wants to . leader in this situation wants to work out a few things. they want to work out a few things. they want to work out a few things. they want to work out who is saying publicly, yes, i am work out who is saying publicly, yes, iam behind work out who is saying publicly, yes, i am behind you, work out who is saying publicly, yes, iam behind you, but work out who is saying publicly, yes, i am behind you, but behind the scenes are perhaps having doubts, and who really needs a? who is a loyalist who will not just stay with the premise or the next couple of weeks, but will help them continue to build his government to push forward to the next general election. those kinds of conversations can be had much more frankly behind closed doors that in front of us, the media. those conversations will be happening. when i got here a couple of hours or so, the culture secretary came in, not too long afterwards, came out, jumped in a car down there, i don't know she tweeted from the car but she tweeted very quickly after leaving saying i'm offering my prime minister at 100% supports. we are very much concentrating on the door at the moment, because one of the most senior members of the cabinet has gone in stony face, didn't respond to any questions being shouted at him, and what the prime minister wants to know is is he staying, we think he is, and if he

is staying, how ambitious is he? might he be interested in being held secretary? chancellor of the exchequer? but at these points of maximum pressure, any leader wants to find out, are his senior colleagues within? and as his party within? we know there's a problem with this party. a1% of his mps voted against him, not the result he was looking for. so he will be calling around trying to shore up the situation. i was talking to one veteran political journalistjust was talking to one veteran political journalist just a few was talking to one veteran political journalistjust a few minutes ago and he was saying, look, it's been three hours, he should've announced the chancellor already. i said really, three hours, that does seem long. these moments are crucial, when you have a political attack like this, leader needs to shore up their position, that is exactly what is going on behind me number 10 downing street. it is is going on behind me number10 downing street.— is going on behind me number10 downing street. it is worth looking back at the tick-tock _ downing street. it is worth looking back at the tick-tock of _ downing street. it is worth looking back at the tick-tock of how - downing street. it is worth looking back at the tick-tock of how this i back at the tick—tock of how this unfolded tonight. there was a taped interview that chris may send our political editor did around

six o'clock, within minutes of that going out, these two letters appeared. do think that rishi sunak and sajid javid spoke to the pre—minister before announcing to the public that they were gone? so the public that they were gone? ’sr we the public that they were gone? 5r we just don't the public that they were gone? 5h we just don't know that. we have no evidence that they coordinated their resignations, although, they went out within minutes of each other and you are right, i was sitting in the middle of the bbc news room before i came down here and there was a flurry of activity because it was a 123. first of all, we heard with the prime minister had told our colleague, chris mason, and he was apologetic for how he had handled the chris pincher allegations, and how he has handled the story in the last few days, then moments later, the sajid javid resignation, and a few minutes later, my goodness, rishi sunak has gone as well. now, we don't know whether those two men spoke to the prime minister. they certainly sent him a letter. we have now got copies of the letters that mrjohnson is sending back to them in which he thanks them for their service, but pointedly outline some of the ambitions he hopes to build,

that he still has to build on the work that they have already done, so his message is clear, you know, i am not going anywhere. whether they spoke, wejust not going anywhere. whether they spoke, we just don't know. it's all been very formal. they've exchanged letters, they are aware, all three parties, every syllable of those letters gets picked over. now, remember, this gets lost, perhaps, the story is moving so quickly, less than two weeks ago, borisjohnson lost the chairman of the conservative party, oliver dobbin, who resigned after a couple of by election defeats him and after that, he used the phrase, "some he has got to take responsibly." and he knows how that would have been interpreted. we are popping up that will have been interpreted. we are putting up the details of this letter and which has onlyjust come out to try to read the ruins, work out to try to read the ruins, work out the positioning, but there is no evidence at the moment that they have had conversations at the prime minister. . ., ., , ., minister. dominic raab, priti patel, teresa coffey. _ minister. dominic raab, priti patel, teresa coffey, michael _ minister. dominic raab, priti patel, teresa coffey, michael gove, - minister. dominic raab, priti patel, teresa coffey, michael gove, they i teresa coffey, michael gove, they have all come out in support. one

conversation going on in downing street, and then another you would think between those cabinets ministers. he served in cabinets. how do you think that will be unfolding? presumably they will be trying to —— such each of them is going to deal. it trying to -- such each of them is going to deal-— going to deal. it feels a bit like rearranging the _ going to deal. it feels a bit like rearranging the deck _ going to deal. it feels a bit like rearranging the deck chairs - going to deal. it feels a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on | going to deal. it feels a bit like i rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic _ rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic if— rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic. if you are a political politician _ titanic. if you are a political politician and you get to serve in cabinets — politician and you get to serve in cabinets at — politician and you get to serve in cabinets at a high—end, by when you take the _ cabinets at a high—end, by when you take the child has meant that you should also know that surely this is the end _ should also know that surely this is the end game. admittedly, only two cabinet _ the end game. admittedly, only two cabinet ministers have resigned, on the two. _ cabinet ministers have resigned, on the two. but — cabinet ministers have resigned, on the two, but rishi sunak is a big piece _ the two, but rishi sunak is a big piece even— the two, but rishi sunak is a big piece. even though he's been discounted with previous issues to do with— discounted with previous issues to do with his — discounted with previous issues to do with his non—prime status and his us green— do with his non—prime status and his us green card, he is still a very serious figure. when you lose your chance, margaret thatcher lost her chance _ chance, margaret thatcher lost her chance at _ chance, margaret thatcher lost her chance at the end of her penmanship. i do not _ chance at the end of her penmanship. i do not see _ chance at the end of her penmanship. i do not see how this is at all

sustainable. i always thought boris johnson _ sustainable. i always thought boris johnson would lead them to the next election— johnson would lead them to the next election and potentially beyond. but rishi sunak hasjumped, javid have jumped _ rishi sunak hasjumped, javid have jumped. people being promoted, steve barkley. _ jumped. people being promoted, steve barkley, they are not big thinkers in the _ barkley, they are not big thinkers in the parliamentary party. there are who — in the parliamentary party. there are who think that staying loyal will help— are who think that staying loyal will help them in the future leadership election, people like liz trost. _ leadership election, people like liz trost. but — leadership election, people like liz trost, but they are only staying onai _ trost, but they are only staying onai in — trost, but they are only staying loyal in terms of how it would look at a future — loyal in terms of how it would look at a future leadership election. they— at a future leadership election. they are — at a future leadership election. they are not loyal because they genuinely believe that boris johnson should _ genuinely believe that boris johnson should carry on his pen minister. —— are they _ should carry on his pen minister. —— are they so— should carry on his pen minister. —— are they so i— should carry on his pen minister. —— are they. so i think this is the end game _ are they. so i think this is the end tame. �* ., , ., are they. so i think this is the end tame. �* ., , . ., game. but how is at the end game? because those _ game. but how is at the end game? because those closest _ game. but how is at the end game? because those closest to _ game. but how is at the end game? because those closest to him - game. but how is at the end game? because those closest to him say i game. but how is at the end game? | because those closest to him say he will only quit if he is dragged clicking and screaming out of number ten. == clicking and screaming out of number ten. , , clicking and screaming out of number ten._ presumably - clicking and screaming out of number ten._ presumably the - ten. -- liz truss. presumably the onus falls — ten. -- liz truss. presumably the onus falls on _ ten. -- liz truss. presumably the onus falls on the _ ten. -- liz truss. presumably the onus falls on the backbenchers. l ten. -- liz truss. presumably the i onus falls on the backbenchers. and they don't have very long because they don't have very long because the summer recess is coming along on the summer recess is coming along on the 21st ofjuly. share

the summer recess is coming along on the 21st ofjuly— the 21st ofjuly. are sometimes s les the 21st ofjuly. are sometimes s [es of the 21st ofjuly. are sometimes styles of resignation, _ the 21st ofjuly. are sometimes styles of resignation, brown i the 21st ofjuly. are sometimes| styles of resignation, brown the last labourer minister was in trouble, _ last labourer minister was in trouble, michaeljames for now, quite _ trouble, michaeljames for now, quite a — trouble, michaeljames for now, quite a senior cabinet minister, but ithank— quite a senior cabinet minister, but i thank you — quite a senior cabinet minister, but i thank you have a chance in the game and — i thank you have a chance in the game and he has some in the sajid javid who has been chancellor and was health secretary. i think lots ofjunior— was health secretary. i think lots ofjunior ministers. i think it will create _ ofjunior ministers. i think it will create a — ofjunior ministers. i think it will create a domino effect, and i think that i_ create a domino effect, and i think that i would not expect boris johnson _ that i would not expect boris johnson to survive into next week, but you _ johnson to survive into next week, but you are — johnson to survive into next week, but you are right. there is one about— but you are right. there is one about borisjohnson, which is about defying gravity and just breaking the rules left right and centre, one of the reasons he is in trouble is because he breaks the rules, but one of the reasons he might survive is because he breaks the rules. i do not see how this is at all sustainable. this country, the uk, like many other countries, is in serious trouble with inflation, cost of living. you cannot have a government which is effectively

declared civil war carrying on like this. so i cannot see how boris johnson is going to survive this. caroline flynn, the labour leader has put the pressure on the cabinet tonight. let mejust has put the pressure on the cabinet tonight. let me just repeat the statement he gave. trey cabinet ministers have been cheerleaders throughout the sorry saga. they backed him when they broke the lock on the back then when he lied, and back ten when he mocked the sacrifices of the british people. they have been complicit, expressed johnson disgraced his office, and if they had a shred of integrity, they would have gone some months ago. that you would expect from a labour leader, but we have heard echoes of that today from the backbenchers behind michael ellis, the cabinets minister. ., ., ~' behind michael ellis, the cabinets minister. ., ., minister. look, labourer will want the culpability _ minister. look, labourer will want the culpability for _ minister. look, labourer will want the culpability for the _ minister. look, labourer will want the culpability for the state - minister. look, labourer will want the culpability for the state of - the culpability for the state of affairs to be the culpability for the state of affairs to he spoke much wider than just the prime minister, boris johnson, and to be talking about a corrupt party that is a systemic problem within the conservative government. the problem for labour

is that actually we have been here before. pressure was put on to get rid of teresa may come of that band did happen and labour made it very uncomfortable for her. and as a result they got a stronger leader and a prime minister, borisjohnson, who won a general election. with labour will say these things, but i also know from my own experience in the past of the conservative party, one thing that they are ruthless about is if the person and that is in charge they don't believe can win them up and they will find a way to get rid of that person, and whether it's next week or in a few months�* time, 1780 it�*s next week or in a few months�* time, 1780 before party conferences, there will be a lot of discussion about that, and in a few weeks that we�*ve got left before the party, before the government�*s recess from a parliament�*s recess, you have the government in number ten putting on pressure on all of their ministers and on backbenchers to sure up the prime minister, but meanwhile, you also have people like rishi sunak and sajid javid going out there

shoring up support amongst their allies to get more ministry of resignations and more backbenchers to stand up and say they do not support the prime minister. tomorrow we have pmp is, should have our grayling by the chairs of the select committees of parliament that the prime minister has to face. that will be grueling. in a press next week there are elections for the conservative backbench1922 committee. that will be interesting because that committee can change the rules about when to have a vote of no confidence. and a lot of things can happen in the next 2a hours in the next week, and the next three weeks, but i think it�*s a difficult time for the prime minister. he will want that she won�*t go easily, but the premise of we have been here before. predicate, there were statements made about not knowing anything about anything, as that started to unravel, it caused more and more problems for the prime minister and the government. now at this situation, there are echoes of that mess as well and that the prime

minister has said i didn�*t know anything about christopher pincher. that has been found to be wrong. in many he is made fools of ministers who have gone out and supported him that he didn�*t know anything about the situation. that that he didn't know anything about the situation.— the situation. that liaison committee _ the situation. that liaison committee is _ the situation. that liaison committee is going - the situation. that liaison committee is going to - the situation. that liaison committee is going to be | committee is going to be something to watch tomorrow because it is full of the prime minister�*s torre critics. statutory critics. the two letters we have received in i question the pain or�*s integrity. you can escape a lot, but you cannot escape someone questioning your integrity. someone who shared a cabinet seat with him. how damaging do you think this is in the country to the prime minister? it do you think this is in the country to the prime minister?— to the prime minister? it has the totential to the prime minister? it has the potential to _ to the prime minister? it has the potential to be _ to the prime minister? it has the potential to be hugely _ to the prime minister? it has the| potentialto be hugely damaging. to the prime minister? it has the - potentialto be hugely damaging. we potential to be hugely damaging. we only have _ potential to be hugely damaging. we only have to look back at jeffrey hows _ only have to look back at jeffrey how's resignation and particularly the speech he gave in the commons that really— the speech he gave in the commons that really undermined margaret thatcher's position and meant that it was— thatcher's position and meant that it was really impossible for her to carry— it was really impossible for her to carry on — it was really impossible for her to carry on. we wait to see what long term _ carry on. we wait to see what long term impact— carry on. we wait to see what long

term impact this will have. i think the key— term impact this will have. i think the key point is this issue of integrity— the key point is this issue of integrity because there have been many— integrity because there have been many questions raised in the minds of the _ many questions raised in the minds of the public over the last few months — of the public over the last few months about integrity, trust, whether— months about integrity, trust, whether the conservative party generally and whether that prime minister— generally and whether that prime minister specifically plays by the rules _ minister specifically plays by the rules. and over the last few months, time and _ rules. and over the last few months, time and again, the answer has been a —1 time and again, the answer has been a -i in— time and again, the answer has been a -i internrs— time and again, the answer has been a —1 in terms of public opinion. in the cumulative effect of that does have the — the cumulative effect of that does have the potential to be very damaging because it is highly unlikely— damaging because it is highly unlikely that someone would go into the voting _ unlikely that someone would go into the voting booth in a year, two years. — the voting booth in a year, two years. six— the voting booth in a year, two years, six weeks' time, whatever it turns— years, six weeks' time, whatever it turns out— years, six weeks' time, whatever it turns out to — years, six weeks' time, whatever it turns out to be and says, "i'm not going _ turns out to be and says, "i'm not going to _ turns out to be and says, "i'm not going to vote _ turns out to be and says, "i'm not going to vote conservative because boris _ going to vote conservative because borisjohnson was going to vote conservative because boris johnson was unclear about chris— boris johnson was unclear about chris pincher." but it is far more iiker— chris pincher." but it is far more likely that — chris pincher." but it is far more likely that someone would go into the boating ash voting booth and say that i don't— the boating ash voting booth and say that i don't trust the conservatives. the prime minister doesn't _ conservatives. the prime minister doesn't have integrity. he doesn't play by— doesn't have integrity. he doesn't play by the rules. changing those narratives — play by the rules. changing those narratives is very, very difficult. up narratives is very, very difficult. up until—

narratives is very, very difficult. up until now, he for conservative party— up until now, he for conservative party have — up until now, he for conservative party have done a good job in presenting a united front to the cabinet. the solid wall had not been breached. _ cabinet. the solid wall had not been breached, but now two chinks in the armour— breached, but now two chinks in the armour have — breached, but now two chinks in the armour have emerged. if more in marriage, — armour have emerged. if more in marriage, then the damage will be even more. — marriage, then the damage will be even more, but it may not even require — even more, but it may not even require that _ even more, but it may not even require that for everything to collapse _ require that for everything to colla -se. ,, . y collapse. kier starmer did say tonitht collapse. kier starmer did say tonight that — collapse. kier starmer did say tonight that he _ collapse. kier starmer did say tonight that he would - collapse. kier starmer did say | tonight that he would welcome collapse. kier starmer did say i tonight that he would welcome a collapse. kier starmer did say - tonight that he would welcome a snap election which you would think would perhaps focus minds within the conservative party because when they look at the polls and you look at how they have performed in recent by elections and with no obvious leader to take over, they would be in a mess. ., ., ~ , ., , , mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when _ mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when she _ mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when she says _ mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when she says that - mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when she says that this i mess. caroline think is absolutely correct when she says that this is | correct when she says that this is about— correct when she says that this is about to — correct when she says that this is about to they think will be best to deliver— about to they think will be best to deliver the next election. at the moment, — deliver the next election. at the moment, there has been a lot of comment. — moment, there has been a lot of comment, if you like in absolute terms. _ comment, if you like in absolute terms. the — comment, if you like in absolute terms, the belief that borisjohnson is not _ terms, the belief that borisjohnson is not the _ terms, the belief that borisjohnson is not the right person to lead. but then the _ is not the right person to lead. but then the question is who is? i don't think rishi — then the question is who is? i don't think rishi sunak is realistic given his circumstances, sajid javid

perhaps. _ his circumstances, sajid javid perhaps, but it is really difficult to see — perhaps, but it is really difficult to see an— perhaps, but it is really difficult to see an obvious candidate. yes, people say— to see an obvious candidate. yes, people say what about a compromise candidate? _ people say what about a compromise candidate? the problem the conservatives have is they don't have _ conservatives have is they don't have a _ conservatives have is they don't have a particularly good history of compromise candidates. borisjohnson compromise candidates. boris johnson was compromise candidates. borisjohnson was standing in the wings looming large _ was standing in the wings looming large over— was standing in the wings looming large over teresa mae the last time the conservatives are in this kind of situation, and there simply isn't an obvious — of situation, and there simply isn't an obvious alternative now. so a lot of those _ an obvious alternative now. so a lot of those backbench mps will be thinking, — of those backbench mps will be thinking, yes, ithink of those backbench mps will be thinking, yes, i think borisjohnson is potentially damaging my chances of getting elected at the next election, but am i willing to risk someone — election, but am i willing to risk someone else, whoever that is? and what they— someone else, whoever that is? and what they stand a better chance, because — what they stand a better chance, because that ultimately will be the calculation that many people on the back benches of the conservative party— back benches of the conservative party will— back benches of the conservative party will be asking themselves tonight— party will be asking themselves tonight and over the next few days. i have _ tonight and over the next few days. i have got— tonight and over the next few days. i have got to let you go shortly to head out for your son down is, but before i do that, i went to show you what happened in the lords this afternoon while you are away. we will show you a clip of lord trio, speaking for the prime minister

about the robust system for upholding standards in public life. just listen to how he delivers it in the reaction on the benches. it is a pleasure to — the reaction on the benches. it is a pleasure to appear— the reaction on the benches. it is a pleasure to appear before - the reaction on the benches. it is a pleasure to appear before you - the reaction on the benches. it is a pleasure to appear before you in i pleasure to appear before you in this house on this important matter. and mr speaker we are grateful to have a system that upholds public standards, and the system is multifaceted. it is made up of interlocking and complementary elements. it is of course founded on the seven principles of public life which had been in place for a quarter century and which provide the overarching qualities and standards of behaviour that are expected. it�*s standards of behaviour that are ex-ected. �*, ., , standards of behaviour that are ex-ected. �*, . , ., ., . , expected. it's amusing to watch, but he is speaking _ expected. it's amusing to watch, but he is speaking for _ expected. it's amusing to watch, but he is speaking for the _ expected. it's amusing to watch, but he is speaking for the prime - he is speaking for the prime minister, and you can clearly see here behind ten that there is no belief, not a shred of belief in

what he is saying. i5 belief, not a shred of belief in what he is saying.— what he is saying. is the justice minister in _ what he is saying. is the justice minister in the _ what he is saying. is the justice minister in the lords _ what he is saying. is the justice minister in the lords who - what he is saying. is the justice i minister in the lords who resigned over predicate a few weeks ago. and this is the problem with boris johnson will stop i do think this is the end game now. you can appoint them as her health secretary can even appoint them as a chancellor, but the fact is that this is a party now with out worry about cell because of its prime minister. and this will not be resolved until borisjohnson or until somebody else boris johnson or until somebody else is borisjohnson or until somebody else is elected by the parliamentary party to take over. i�*m afraid that is just the facts of life. there are lots of counterfactual as he could put forward, but that is just effective like and boris can carry anna appointing people until the cows come home. maybe he will make me a chance at some point. but i think he has now run that road. once you lose your edge chance to rishi sunak, funnily enough, i think he

may come back as a strong leadership candidate in the next few weeks because frankly, he is so rich, he is on corruptible, which is a very important point, and also he is one of the few ministers of the cabinet to joined of the few ministers of the cabinet tojoined up, sol of the few ministers of the cabinet tojoined up, so i think it�*s all to play for, and i think that people like liz truss, deciding to play that 100% loyalty card because they are worried about seeming to stab the prime minister in the back should simply say i love boris johnson from i think is a great prime minister, but it is quite clear that the parliamentary party as very divided and we can on the night under a new leader. that is the line they should be taking. taste the line they should be taking. we may be talking about the runners and writers if there is a challenge to the prime minister and aggressive the prime minister and aggressive the next hour. thank you so much for being with us this evening. at the end of the day this comes down to trust — trust in the word of the prime minster and those

who represent him. on sunday, on monday and on tuesday, members of borisjohnson�*s cabinet came out to explain to the media what borisjohnson had known about the behaviour of his deputy chief whip. chris pincher resigned on friday over a groping allegation. but ministers, briefed by number ten, insisted the pm had had no prior knowledge of concerns surrounding pincher when he appointed him to the whips office in february. i�*ve been informed this morning that he did not know about specific allegations. who has told you with certainty that the prime minister didn't know about the allegations? somebody from the number ten press office. i have been given categorical- assurance that the prime minister was not aware of any specific allegation or complaints - made against the former- deputy chief whip chris pincher. mrjohnson was briefed in person about the initiation and outcome of the investigation. so that is news to me. i wasn't aware of that, and it is not clear to me that that is factually accurate. by lunchtime, at the despatch box, a new version of events was being laid out. last week, when fresh allegations arose, the prime minister did not

immediately recall the conversation in late 2019 about this incident. jeering. as soon as he was reminded, as soon as he was reminded, the number ten press office corrected their public lines. so the position is quite clear, further inquiries will be made, but the position is that the prime minister acted with probity at all times. but it wasn�*t true. borisjohnson had been fully briefed on an investigation into pinchers behaviour in 2019, while pincher was serving as a junior minister in the foreign office. this morning, the cross bench peer lord mcdonald, who had formerly served as the most senior civil servant in that department, tweeted a public letter accusing number ten of lying. i think they need to come clean.

i think that the language is ambiguous. this sort of telling the truth and crossing your fingers at the same time and hoping that people are not too forensic in a subsequent questioning. tonight five days after mr pincher resigned, the prime minister finally appeared, to accept that it had been a mistake to appoint him to the whips office. it was a mistake and i apologise for it, in hindsight, it was the wrong thing to do. i apologise to everybody who has been badly affected by it. and i just want to make absolutely clear that there is no place in this government for anybody who is predatory or who abuses their position of power. in fact downing street had not corrected the record. this was the first time they had confirmed what simon mcdonald had put out in his letter. the faces of the ministers sat at the cabinet table this morning told the full story.

once again they had been sent out to defend a position that had disintegrated. i want to show you some pictures of downing street. we have our cameras focused on the door of number 11. that is, of course, the home of the british chancellor. we are expecting nadeem to come out of that door, it�*s not been confirmed. of course there were questions about the education secretary or whether he might be one of those to be signed. there was no public statement of support from hand, but the speculation is now that he has moved in to that bacon chancellor�*s position. i thank you are standing by for us, mratkins, position. i thank you are standing by for us, mr atkins, where is the speculation coming from? as i say, there were questions about him? i

hope you can hear me above the helicopter, which is effectively above downing street at the moment. as he will know, he reported on here a few times, when you�*re in downing street to me van der rohe time looking over your shoulder trying to second—guess you might come out of different doors. the number one door we are focused on is that one because that is where some cabinet ministers have been coming and going, but a few minutes ago, a car reversed past us and it has parked itselfjust between reversed past us and it has parked itself just between the reversed past us and it has parked itselfjust between the doors of number 11 and number 12 downing street. so there is some speculation that photographers not here always the people i like to keep an eye on, because they know about things before we do. they all move from here, facing number ten, and they moved down from and they are all partjust in front of number 11. so who knows what that means? regarding outside and a photographer paying close attention means perhaps we should look closely at what�*s happening in number 11 as well as a number ten. happening in number 11 as well as a numberten. in happening in number 11 as well as a number ten. in terms of the importance of this decision, welcome to the chancellor of the exchequer is arguably the most significant role in government after the prime

minister. it is never idealfor a prime minister to have a chancellor resigned. borisjohnson has actually had that happen to him twice. and as such, he�*s got to make an important decision, a lot of commentators are saying it would be idealfor them to make that decision tonight to firm up make that decision tonight to firm up what has been a precarious situation, a well—respected member of his cabinet, one of the most senior members. so how he fits into mrjohnsonjohnson�*s plans, we will have to see, but it would certainly be a statement of intent for mr johnson if he were to put a figure, that seniority from the cabinet and as a replacement for rishi sunak. but we should emphasise this is purely just working through but we should emphasise this is purelyjust working through some of the options. there is absolutely no confirmation whatsoever that either that gate has been offered to a macro in order that if it were offered he would accept it. —— nadhim zahawi. offered he would accept it. -- nadhim zahawi.— offered he would accept it. -- nadhim zahawi. , nadhim zahawi. there has been some ttullin b nadhim zahawi. there has been some pulling by conservative _ nadhim zahawi. there has been some pulling by conservative homeowners l pulling by conservative homeowners as to who is most popular in the party, where they stand in any

future leadership run. if boris johnson was to look around his cabinet table and pick someone who the public would respect, who might have respect among the party in the chancellor�*s job, have respect among the party in the chancellor�*sjob, who might that have respect among the party in the chancellor�*s job, who might that be? it's chancellor�*s job, who might that be? it�*s difficult to say because, and it's difficult to say because, and that is— it's difficult to say because, and that is no— it's difficult to say because, and that is no reflection on the talents of those _ that is no reflection on the talents of those around the table, but simply— of those around the table, but simply in _ of those around the table, but simply in terms of the general public, — simply in terms of the general public, there are very few people within— public, there are very few people within the — public, there are very few people within the cabinet two are particularly well known at all. the only real — particularly well known at all. the only real reason that anyone gets to the top _ only real reason that anyone gets to the top of— only real reason that anyone gets to the top of any kind of pulls is based — the top of any kind of pulls is based on _ the top of any kind of pulls is based on name recognition, and that name _ based on name recognition, and that name recognition tends to be based in the _ name recognition tends to be based in the eyes — name recognition tends to be based in the eyes of the public on one or two things, that those people are famous for. the rishi sunak for a long _ famous for. the rishi sunak for a long time — famous for. the rishi sunak for a long time was the highest of those low figures. regularly pulling between 15—20% while more than 50% of people _ between 15—20% while more than 50% of people said they didn't know. but even then, — of people said they didn't know. but even then, that was mainly as a

result— even then, that was mainly as a result of— even then, that was mainly as a result of his performance over the covid _ result of his performance over the covid pandemic, and once that moved to one _ covid pandemic, and once that moved to one side _ covid pandemic, and once that moved to one side and it was diminished and that— to one side and it was diminished and that was replaced by issues around — and that was replaced by issues around cost of living, and then there — around cost of living, and then there were all the revelations about his private _ there were all the revelations about his private circumstances, and his position— his private circumstances, and his position collapsed. so, there are those _ position collapsed. so, there are those people who the public don't really _ those people who the public don't really know very much about, and there _ really know very much about, and there are — really know very much about, and there are those the public do no pets— there are those the public do no pets about but they don't particularly like and then there are few people who could perhaps be compromise candidates, ben wallace, the defence secretary, someone who is often _ the defence secretary, someone who is often presented in those terms, but there — is often presented in those terms, but there really is no obvious choice. — but there really is no obvious choice, while more than 50% of the population— choice, while more than 50% of the population say they don't know. someone — population say they don't know. someone could move into that position. — someone could move into that position, i'm sure over the next few days and _ position, i'm sure over the next few days and weeks, we will see people manoeuvre, even more than we have over the _ manoeuvre, even more than we have over the past— manoeuvre, even more than we have over the past few weeks, particularly with the suggestion that borisjohnson will particularly with the suggestion that boris johnson will go. particularly with the suggestion that borisjohnson will go. but where — that borisjohnson will go. but where that actually ends up remains to be _ where that actually ends up remains to be seen— where that actually ends up remains to be seen stepping aside from the two cabinet heavyweights, there are

a number— two cabinet heavyweights, there are a number of people who have gone tonight, _ a number of people who have gone tonight, the state mp also a number of people who have gone tonight, the state mp— chairand chair and who has handed in his resignation on the trade envoy. you see some of their faces there. in a sense, this is an exercise in triage, you�*ve got to stop the bleeding in the best way to do that is to get in there quickly and reappoint. is to get in there quickly and reappoint-— is to get in there quickly and reauoint. ~ , ~ is to get in there quickly and rea- toint. ~ ,,., , ~ ., reappoint. absolutely. and the more that the hours _ reappoint. absolutely. and the more that the hours tick _ reappoint. absolutely. and the more that the hours tick by, _ reappoint. absolutely. and the more that the hours tick by, the _ reappoint. absolutely. and the more that the hours tick by, the more - that the hours tick by, the more there will be uncertainty about the security of the prime minister holding everyone together and the comment earlier, how many hours, we are still waiting to hear who will be the replacement for rishi sunak. this is why rishi sunak and sajid javid and his followers, they will be trying to get as many people, whether they are trade envoys, pps, whatever, keeping the momentum going as much as they can and seeing who else, who might be bigger than some of the names you mentioned might put themselves forward to resign in the

next 2a hours. interestingly about jonathan, his stoke—on—trent mp, and thatis jonathan, his stoke—on—trent mp, and that is a of redwall seat. it will be interesting to see how many of those conservatives who won in 2019 and the redwall seats are so—called redwall seats will step up and declare support for the prime minister or not. so that will be interesting to see as well. in just a point about successors, it seems to me, i don�*t know ifjoe agrees with us. it�*s rarely the person who wields the knife who ends up being successful, and a good example of that was michael heselton and john major. john major, incredibly loyal to him and we have seen dramatisations of apple thing and how it played out. he stayed very loyal, but he was ready, he was in pole position to put himself forward and ultimately when the leadership of the party, and for those who are staying on a yes, they will be declaring their loyalty, but it will also be about their positioning and recognising that actually it isn�*t always the person who wields the

knife, as rishi sunak and sajid javid had done today, if they could be in a better position to step forward when the time is right. let me bring you very quickly to some of the other reactions from the loyalists. nadeem torres went in and has tweeted a short while, jacob rees—mogg spoke to our correspondent ian watson. i fully support the prime minister, he has a significant mandate from the rich people, a majority of 80. these squabbles have been in politics, but the best politicians carry on calmly. the best politicians carry on calml . ~ ., the best politicians carry on calml . . ., ., the best politicians carry on calml .~ ., ., the best politicians carry on calml . . ., ., ~' calmly. what do you think the chancellor _ calmly. what do you think the chancellor and _ calmly. what do you think the chancellor and x _ calmly. what do you think the chancellor and x chancellor i calmly. what do you think the | chancellor and x chancellor up calmly. what do you think the - chancellor and x chancellor up to? will make an excellent question, you must ask them. one of the vice chairs of the concerning party also

resigned from his party. i can�*t serve under the prime minister, but i say that with regret, i think the prime minister... i think that when you�*ve lost trust of people i saw that and i think it�*s clear he�*s losing the support of two of his closest cabinet colleagues that the time has come for him to stand down. important to note that he is the new mp committees of the new conservatives that are coming through. from the old guard, former chief let our carpet tweeted, tonight, we have seen leadership from rishi sunak and sajid javid.

the leader of the liberal democrats, sir it davey tweeted that the prime minister should go and go now. the house of cards built on lies and deceit comes crashing down, he wrote. though, go now, you have discredited our great country long enough. similarthoughts from discredited our great country long enough. similar thoughts from nicola sturgeon. no fan of borisjohnson. we spoke earlier about the reaction from the opposition secure starmer. here he is. look, after all the sleaze and all the failure, it is clear that this tory government is now collapsing. tory cabinet ministers have been cheerleaders forjohnson

throughout this sorry saga. they backed him when he broke the law. he mocked the sacrifices of the british people. so they have been complacent as he has disgraced his office and let down his country. frankly, if they had a shred of integrity, they would have gone months ago. the tory party is corrupted, and changing one man at the top want to fix it. we need a real change of government and a fresh start for britain. secure starmer speaking just a short time ago. caroline, can i talk to you, because it is possible and that all the fireworks that we have seen today, to miss a central point here. what boris johnson today, to miss a central point here. what borisjohnson told chris mason is that he was aware that there were concerns around chris pincher�*s behaviour, he had been told after

the inquiry at the foreign office about what had gone on and the way it had been resolved. the question then comes about the prime minister�*sjudgment. why then comes about the prime minister�*s judgment. why did then comes about the prime minister�*sjudgment. why did he put a man like that of which there have been several allegations in a position where he was responsible for the welfare of mp is?— for the welfare of mp is? yeah, i mean, i thought _ for the welfare of mp is? yeah, i mean, i thought about _ for the welfare of mp is? yeah, i mean, i thought about that - for the welfare of mp is? yeah, i j mean, i thought about that quite for the welfare of mp is? yeah, i l mean, i thought about that quite a lot today. also, in the context of and fire predicates, making statements into the house into the press nothing that he had been involved with had been breaking the rules and how that all unraveled. as soon the pincher situation became known about his sexual predatory behaviour, you know, isort known about his sexual predatory behaviour, you know, i sort of think maybe naively, i don�*t know, that as soon as that happens, alarm bells should have gone off. even if the prime minister maybe didn�*t recall, there should�*ve been enough people

around ten from his wit office to say, look, you know, he has got form here. there was this complaint at the foreign office that would have triggered some recall of what was going on. particularly after the situation that happened with parties and numberten, it almost situation that happened with parties and number ten, it almost beggars belief why that didn�*t happen. was he given advice or not, was he given information about pincher? i don�*t know christopher pincher at all, but my sense is, having been a member of parliament, there always gossip about some of these individuals going around and usually it�*s known amongst the people closest to that person and certainly the whips office. so why wasn�*t that given? and if it was, what wasn�*t listen to? is it the case at the prime ministerjust thought to? is it the case at the prime minister just thought that the incidents that happen at the foreign office, an apology was said and no more action was taken — did he then

downplay what had happened? it beggars belief on this why didn�*t set the alarm bells going. beggars belief on this why didn't set the alarm bells going.- set the alarm bells going. hears with a conservative _ set the alarm bells going. hears with a conservative mp - set the alarm bells going. hears with a conservative mp williaml with a conservative mp william radcliffe said in the house. i will go it�*s a question of integrity and politicaljudgment on the part of the prime minister and thatjudgment cannot be delegated." let�*s go to ros atkins who�*s watching the doors for us in downing street. i�*m seeing all sorts of speculation on twitter about who might be the next health secretary, but i don�*t know if that�*s been confirmed yet? you secretary, but i don't know if that's been confirmed yet? you are ritht, that's been confirmed yet? you are right. there — that's been confirmed yet? you are right. there are _ that's been confirmed yet? you are right, there are multiple _ that's been confirmed yet? you are right, there are multiple sources i right, there are multiple sources saying steve barclay, who was brought into number ten to reshape borisjohnson�*s operation and number ten, and there�*s discussion about how well that�*s gone. he�*s now looking very likely to be the next health secretary. we have that flurry of activity around number 11 but nothing happened, the door

didn�*t open in the car is still parked there. in fact one photographer came and is now parked out on the street with the rest of us. you never know how much it�*s rooted in but clearly some interesting —— someone interesting could walk out the doors soon. the thing that people are focused on as there are some reports, like a suddenjournalist there are some reports, like a sudden journalist staying at the moment inside number ten there is a standoff, with borisjohnson inclined to give liz truss the premiership, but nadhim zahawi, who we saw go in well over an hour now, says he wants to move from education to become chancellor or he may be very unhelpful. of course we are inside the room, we don�*t know how those conversations are going. but we did references earlier speaking to michael crick who said actually, if you have a chance to resign at 6pm and it�*s now 9pm, that�*s a

relatively long time for that to not be resolved. perhaps that points to the fact that these are not conversations which are all going the way that boris johnson conversations which are all going the way that borisjohnson would�*ve hoped to, or perhaps he was taking his time to consider it. nonetheless there�*s a huge amount writing on this tour because we want to see who comes out and what they have to say. because while they has set national secretary is a hugely important role as we navigate our way out of the pandemic, the chancellor of the exchequer is a hugely powerful person who shapes the direction of the economy. whatever decision boris johnson makes around that role will tell us a couple things — how confident is he in certain strong characters within the cabinet, but it also says something about the direction he hopes to go in terms of economic policy. you�*ve been highlighting what rishi sunak said in his resignation letter, there divides over how the cabinet should address the cost of living crisis.

the decision borisjohnson makes about who he appoints chancellor will show us how he hopes to address theissue, will show us how he hopes to address the issue, which is very much still going. the issue, which is very much still ttoin. .,, the issue, which is very much still ttoin. .,�* ., ., y the issue, which is very much still main, ., �* ., ., y don't going. ros, don't go anywhere. don't wor ,i going. ros, don't go anywhere. don't worry. iwon't- _ going. ros, don't go anywhere. don't worry, iwon't. catherine— going. ros, don't go anywhere. don't worry, iwon't. catherine joins- going. ros, don't go anywhere. don't worry, i won't. catherine joins us - worry, iwon't. catherine 'oins us from the institute h worry, i won't. catherine joins us i from the institute for government, i want to know what kinds of conversations are going on behind closed doors. when margaret thatcher�*s cabinet started to dissolve and the chancellor walked away, the men in gray suits arrived to tell her the writing was on the wall. i don�*t get any feeling, from what roz is saying, that anyone in the conservative party is coming to tell boris johnson the conservative party is coming to tell borisjohnson it�*s over, not now anyway. tell boris johnson it's over, not now anyway-— tell boris johnson it's over, not now anyway. tell boris johnson it's over, not nowan a.~�*, now anyway. we've seen sources close to the cabinet _ now anyway. we've seen sources close to the cabinet minister _ now anyway. we've seen sources close to the cabinet minister saying - now anyway. we've seen sources close to the cabinet minister saying that - to the cabinet minister saying that they are _ to the cabinet minister saying that they are continuing _ to the cabinet minister saying that they are continuing to _ to the cabinet minister saying that they are continuing to support - to the cabinet minister saying that they are continuing to support the | they are continuing to support the prime _ they are continuing to support the prime minister. _ they are continuing to support the prime minister. there's _ they are continuing to support the prime minister. there's been - they are continuing to support the i prime minister. there's been some rumours _ prime minister. there's been some rumours on — prime minister. there's been some rumours on twitter—

prime minister. there's been some rumours on twitter discussing - rumours on twitter discussing whether— rumours on twitter discussing whether nadhim _ rumours on twitter discussing whether nadhim zahawi - rumours on twitter discussing whether nadhim zahawi is - rumours on twitter discussing i whether nadhim zahawi is asking rumours on twitter discussing - whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something _ whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in— whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in terms _ whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in terms of— whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in terms of what - whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in terms of what jobs - whether nadhim zahawi is asking for something in terms of what jobs he| something in terms of what jobs he might— something in terms of what jobs he might get, — something in terms of what jobs he might get. perhaps— something in terms of what jobs he might get, perhaps the _ something in terms of what jobs he might get, perhaps the role - something in terms of what jobs he might get, perhaps the role of- might get, perhaps the role of chancellor— might get, perhaps the role of chancellor as— might get, perhaps the role of chancellor as a _ might get, perhaps the role of chancellor as a condition - might get, perhaps the role of chancellor as a condition of. might get, perhaps the role of- chancellor as a condition of thanks for support — chancellor as a condition of thanks for support. an _ chancellor as a condition of thanks for support. an interesting - chancellor as a condition of thanks. for support. an interesting question for support. an interesting question for all— for support. an interesting question for all those — for support. an interesting question for all those in _ for support. an interesting question for all those in cabinet, especially. for all those in cabinet, especially if they— for all those in cabinet, especially if they think— for all those in cabinet, especially if they think there _ for all those in cabinet, especially if they think there might - for all those in cabinet, especially if they think there might be - for all those in cabinet, especially if they think there might be a - if they think there might be a future — if they think there might be a future leadership— if they think there might be a future leadership can - if they think there might be a i future leadership can contender. if they think there might be a - future leadership can contender. i'm usually— future leadership can contender. i'm usually too _ future leadership can contender. i'm usually too big — future leadership can contender. i'm usually too big figures _ future leadership can contender. i'm usually too big figures have - usually too big figures have left and they— usually too big figures have left and they can _ usually too big figures have left and they can now— usually too big figures have left and they can now overly- usually too big figures have left and they can now overly go - usually too big figures have left and they can now overly go out| usually too big figures have left - and they can now overly go out and start thinking — and they can now overly go out and start thinking about _ and they can now overly go out and start thinking about organising - start thinking about organising themselves— start thinking about organising themselves for— start thinking about organising themselves for future - start thinking about organising i themselves for future leadership contests — themselves for future leadership contests. those _ themselves for future leadership contests. those remaining - themselves for future leadership - contests. those remaining government may be _ contests. those remaining government may be making — contests. those remaining government may be making a — contests. those remaining government may be making a different _ may be making a different calculation _ may be making a different calculation about - may be making a different calculation about what's i may be making a different i calculation about what's best may be making a different - calculation about what's best for their— calculation about what's best for their position _ calculation about what's best for their position.— their position. there's a really important _ their position. there's a really important election _ their position. there's a really important election coming - their position. there's a really important election coming up| their position. there's a really i important election coming up to their position. there's a really - important election coming up to the 1922 committee, the rules committee within the cabinet backbenchers committee. we already spoken about the summer recess which comes on 21 july, will they be thinking if they can get something in place before they break, then the summer recess is a perfect time to have a

leadership contest? what's extraordinary _ leadership contest? what's extraordinary about - leadership contest? what's extraordinary about this . leadership contest? what's extraordinary about this is | leadership contest? what's i extraordinary about this is so leadership contest? what's - extraordinary about this is so many things. _ extraordinary about this is so many things. but— extraordinary about this is so many things. but this— extraordinary about this is so many things, but this has _ extraordinary about this is so many things, but this has made - extraordinary about this is so many things, but this has made it- extraordinary about this is so many things, but this has made it easieri things, but this has made it easier for the _ things, but this has made it easier for the rebels _ things, but this has made it easier for the rebels to _ things, but this has made it easier for the rebels to organise - things, but this has made it easier for the rebels to organise and - for the rebels to organise and push this through — for the rebels to organise and push this through before _ for the rebels to organise and push this through before the _ for the rebels to organise and push this through before the summer. this through before the summer recess — this through before the summer recess even— this through before the summer recess even a _ this through before the summer recess. even a few _ this through before the summer recess. even a few days - this through before the summer recess. even a few days ago, i this through before the summer- recess. even a few days ago, people were saying — recess. even a few days ago, people were saying it— recess. even a few days ago, people were saying it would _ recess. even a few days ago, people were saying it would be _ recess. even a few days ago, people were saying it would be really- recess. even a few days ago, people were saying it would be really hard i were saying it would be really hard considering — were saying it would be really hard considering elections— were saying it would be really hard considering elections are - were saying it would be really hard considering elections are only- were saying it would be really hard considering elections are only next week— considering elections are only next week to _ considering elections are only next week to get — considering elections are only next week to get any— considering elections are only next week to get any rule _ considering elections are only next week to get any rule changes - considering elections are only next week to get any rule changes in i week to get any rule changes in before — week to get any rule changes in before they— week to get any rule changes in before they break _ week to get any rule changes in before they break on _ week to get any rule changes in before they break on 21 - before they break on 21 july. therefore _ before they break on 21 july. therefore you're _ before they break on 21 july. therefore you're looking - before they break on 21 july. therefore you're looking at i before they break on 21 july. . therefore you're looking at the autumn — therefore you're looking at the autumn or— therefore you're looking at the autumn or maybe _ therefore you're looking at the autumn or maybe christmas i therefore you're looking at the - autumn or maybe christmas before you see another_ autumn or maybe christmas before you see another challenge _ autumn or maybe christmas before you see another challenge — _ autumn or maybe christmas before you see another challenge — whereas - autumn or maybe christmas before you see another challenge — whereas now. see another challenge — whereas now this has_ see another challenge — whereas now this has greater— see another challenge — whereas now this has greater conditions _ see another challenge — whereas now this has greater conditions where - this has greater conditions where there's_ this has greater conditions where there's a — this has greater conditions where there's a lot _ this has greater conditions where there's a lot of _ this has greater conditions where there's a lot of anger— this has greater conditions where there's a lot of anger and - this has greater conditions where i there's a lot of anger and impetus. and although — there's a lot of anger and impetus. and although we _ there's a lot of anger and impetus. and although we talked _ there's a lot of anger and impetus. and although we talked about - there's a lot of anger and impetus. and although we talked about the| and although we talked about the need to— and although we talked about the need to make _ and although we talked about the need to make those _ and although we talked about the need to make those rule - and although we talked about the| need to make those rule changes, and although we talked about the i need to make those rule changes, it is something — need to make those rule changes, it is something they _ need to make those rule changes, it is something they can _ need to make those rule changes, it is something they can do _ need to make those rule changes, it is something they can do quite - is something they can do quite swiftly, — is something they can do quite swiftly, but _ is something they can do quite swiftly, but it's _ is something they can do quite swiftly, but it's also _ is something they can do quite| swiftly, but it's also something graham — swiftly, but it's also something graham brady— swiftly, but it's also something graham brady has— swiftly, but it's also something graham brady has control- swiftly, but it's also something| graham brady has control over. swiftly, but it's also something. graham brady has control over. if there's— graham brady has control over. if there's suddenly— graham brady has control over. if there's suddenly a _ graham brady has control over. if there's suddenly a flurry- graham brady has control over. if there's suddenly a flurry of- there's suddenly a flurry of letters, _ there's suddenly a flurry of letters, over— there's suddenly a flurry of letters, over the _ there's suddenly a flurry of letters, over the 15% - there's suddenly a flurry of- letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes _ letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes it— letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes it much— letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes it much more _ letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes it much more likely- letters, over the 15% threshold, it makes it much more likely there i makes it much more likely there will be rute _ makes it much more likely there will be rule changes _

makes it much more likely there will be rule changes. we _ makes it much more likely there will be rule changes.— be rule changes. we have confirmation _ be rule changes. we have confirmation that - be rule changes. we have confirmation that nadhim i be rule changes. we have - confirmation that nadhim zahawi be rule changes. we have _ confirmation that nadhim zahawi has been appointed as the new chancellor of the exchequer. let's go back to downing street, confirmation of him and also of steve barclay is the health secretary. the and also of steve barclay is the health secretary.— and also of steve barclay is the health secretary. the steve barclay news looked _ health secretary. the steve barclay news looked pretty _ health secretary. the steve barclay news looked pretty much _ health secretary. the steve barclay news looked pretty much set, - health secretary. the steve barclay| news looked pretty much set, that's been the case in the last 90 minutes. but multiple very well plugged in westminsterjournalists were saying there was a real tussle going on between liz truss and nadhim zahawi as to who would replace rishi sunak as the chancellor of the exchequer. nadhim zahawi has come out on top. "hearing that as a hobby has won the tussle moving to education as per sources," lots and lots of very well plugged in, respected westminster journalists are saying this. harry cole puts it, "britain has a new chancellor, it's so hot we." the

queen is _ chancellor, it's so hot we." the queen is pleased _ chancellor, it's so hot we." the queen is pleased to _ chancellor, it's so hot we." the queen is pleased to approve the changes, michelle donelan will be the secretary of state for education, replacing nadhim zahawi. there you have it, those three roles are now settled and, as we've been emphasising all evening, you might think if you got some big news at work, for us or any of you watching, you can spend the evening sorting it out and working it out tomorrow. it's not really the case when the prime minister comes under sustained pressure from two senior figures within his government. he would have known he needed to get this largely settled by this evening, and so it's proved we're coming up to 9:45pm, getting dark here at downing street, and those decisions have been resolved. but it's interesting it's taken them a little while. when we saw nadhim zahawi walking up here, you can't second guess what's on some people's mines, he barely gave

us a glance, certainly didn't give us a glance, certainly didn't give us any answers and people were shouting questions. he clearly went in meeting business, meaning to try and come out with one of the biggest jobs in british government, and that's what happened, he's a chancellor of the exchequer. let’s chancellor of the exchequer. let's brin: in chancellor of the exchequer. let's bring in wendy — chancellor of the exchequer. let's bring in wendy chamberlain, welcome to the programme. doesn't look like borisjohnson is ready to quit anytime soon — what can the house of commons do? could you call a vote of confidence in this government? the reali is confidence in this government? the reality is the — confidence in this government? tie: reality is the government confidence in this government? tte: reality is the government have confidence in this government? tt9 reality is the government have the majority that they have.— reality is the government have the majority that they have. would they have the majority _ majority that they have. would they have the majority for _ majority that they have. would they have the majority for a _ majority that they have. would they have the majority for a vote - majority that they have. would they have the majority for a vote of - have the majority for a vote of confidence? it’s have the ma'ority for a vote of confidence?— confidence? it's very different between conservative - confidence? it's very different between conservative mps . confidence? it's very different - between conservative mps showing a vote of confidence in the prime minister, and a vote of no—confidence in the government. it does feel like the last days of rome, rats on a sinking ship. those want to stay where they are. under normal circumstances the prime minister would have resigned by now.

the fact there's been a tussle in number ten and he appears to have installed nadeem as a hobby as chancellor doesn't suggest someone completely in control, and this will unravel quickly in the coming days best nadhim zahawi. it looks like the i920 best nadhim zahawi. it looks like the 1920 committee will move next week. . , the 1920 committee will move next week. , , :, ., week. presumably you spoken to a number of conservative _ week. presumably you spoken to a number of conservative mps - week. presumably you spoken to a number of conservative mps in - week. presumably you spoken to a number of conservative mps in the corridor is today. how would you assess the mood? t corridor is today. how would you assess the mood?— corridor is today. how would you assess the mood? i think there's been a corrosion _ assess the mood? i think there's been a corrosion in _ assess the mood? i think there's been a corrosion in the _ assess the mood? i think there's i been a corrosion in the conservative party for some time now, going back to the owen paterson situation last november. i rememberspeaking to the owen paterson situation last november. i remember speaking to conservative mps after that, seething that they had been required and whipped to a vote on a house motion such as that, and that corrosion has just continued. although the former chancellor and health secretary have done the right thing earlier today, i feel quite ashamed — not necessarily because of

the allegations, but because people have been asked to lie on behalf of the prime minister in broadcast. this is a shameful time for westminster and democracy and our politicians. westminster and democracy and our oliticians. ~ , :, , ., politicians. wendy chamberlain, thanks for being _ politicians. wendy chamberlain, thanks for being with _ politicians. wendy chamberlain, thanks for being with us. - politicians. wendy chamberlain, thanks for being with us. joe, i politicians. wendy chamberlain, | thanks for being with us. joe, let thanks for being with us. joe, let me put the appointment to you because i know you know nadhim zahawi well, you were both colleagues together? for zahawi well, you were both colleagues together?- zahawi well, you were both colleagues together? zahawi well, you were both colleaaues touether? :, :. .., colleagues together? for a decade, i worked with — colleagues together? for a decade, i worked with him _ colleagues together? for a decade, i worked with him at _ colleagues together? for a decade, i worked with him at the _ colleagues together? for a decade, i worked with him at the very - worked with him at the very beginning of yougov until 2010 when he was _ beginning of yougov until 2010 when he was elected as an mp. what i can say is _ he was elected as an mp. what i can say is his— he was elected as an mp. what i can say is his greatest strength is his ability— say is his greatest strength is his ability to— say is his greatest strength is his ability to negotiate a new deal —— good _ ability to negotiate a new deal —— good deal. — ability to negotiate a new deal —— good deal, and the position of chancellor represents an extremely -ood chancellor represents an extremely good deal— chancellor represents an extremely good deal for him. i'm sure he was well aware — good deal for him. i'm sure he was well aware of the bargaining position— well aware of the bargaining position he had, given the resignations that have already occurred —

resignations that have already occurred tonight. and anyone would view the _ occurred tonight. and anyone would view the role of chancellor as the second _ view the role of chancellor as the second most important in government, but also, _ second most important in government, but also, of— second most important in government, but also, of course, the obvious heir— but also, of course, the obvious heir apparent position should the prime _ heir apparent position should the prime minister choose to go. now he could _ prime minister choose to go. now he could turn— prime minister choose to go. now he could turn out to be the next john major _ could turn out to be the next john ma'or. :. , could turn out to be the next john ma'or. :, , ., , major. certainly might elevate his chances in the _ major. certainly might elevate his chances in the future leader - major. certainly might elevate his l chances in the future leader contest that there will be. you can never tell what said within the confines of the 1922 committee when the prime minister meets his mps, but according to reporting tonight, the prime minister reportedly said to some of them, "you wanted lower taxes, it's going to be a lot easier after the events that unfolded this evening." is nadhim zahawi on board with the prime minister as someone who might want to cut taxes? this will be one — who might want to cut taxes? this will be one of— who might want to cut taxes? this will be one of the _ who might want to cut taxes? this will be one of the big issues this party— will be one of the big issues this party faces, _ will be one of the big issues this party faces. not— will be one of the big issues this party faces, not just _ will be one of the big issues this party faces, not just with - will be one of the big issues this. party faces, not just with the prime minister. _ party faces, not just with the prime minister, because _ party faces, not just with the prime minister, because at— party faces, not just with the prime minister, because at the _ party faces, not just with the prime minister, because at the heart - party faces, not just with the prime minister, because at the heart of. party faces, not just with the prime minister, because at the heart of it| minister, because at the heart of it a lot of— minister, because at the heart of it a lot of this — minister, because at the heart of it a lot of this has _ minister, because at the heart of it a lot of this has been _ minister, because at the heart of it a lot of this has been pushed by. minister, because at the heart of iti a lot of this has been pushed by the

standards— a lot of this has been pushed by the standards issues— a lot of this has been pushed by the standards issues in— a lot of this has been pushed by the standards issues in recent - a lot of this has been pushed by the standards issues in recent months. i standards issues in recent months. but actually — standards issues in recent months. but actually there _ standards issues in recent months. but actually there are _ standards issues in recent months. but actually there are deep - but actually there are deep divisions— but actually there are deep divisions within _ but actually there are deep divisions within the - but actually there are deep - divisions within the conservative party— divisions within the conservative party about _ divisions within the conservative party about what _ divisions within the conservative party about what to _ divisions within the conservative party about what to do - divisions within the conservative - party about what to do over the cost of living _ party about what to do over the cost of living and — party about what to do over the cost of living and what _ party about what to do over the cost of living and what is _ party about what to do over the cost of living and what is the _ party about what to do over the cost of living and what is the right - of living and what is the right response _ of living and what is the right response. and _ of living and what is the right response. and that _ of living and what is the right response. and that tension l of living and what is the right - response. and that tension between the chancellor and _ response. and that tension between the chancellor and the _ response. and that tension between the chancellor and the prime - the chancellor and the prime minister— the chancellor and the prime minister isn't _ the chancellor and the prime minister isn'tjust_ the chancellor and the prime minister isn't just about - the chancellor and the prime minister isn't just about the i minister isn't just about the individual— minister isn't just about the individual personalities, - minister isn't just about the individual personalities, it i minister isn't just about the - individual personalities, it is also about— individual personalities, it is also about some _ individual personalities, it is also about some really _ individual personalities, it is also about some really deep - individual personalities, it is alsoi about some really deep questions about— about some really deep questions about what— about some really deep questions about what is _ about some really deep questions about what is the _ about some really deep questions about what is the right _ about some really deep questions about what is the right response. | about some really deep questions| about what is the right response. i don't _ about what is the right response. i don't think— about what is the right response. i don't think those _ about what is the right response. i don't think those will— about what is the right response. i don't think those will go _ about what is the right response. i don't think those will go away, - about what is the right response. ii don't think those will go away, they will fall— don't think those will go away, they will fall part — don't think those will go away, they will fall part of, _ don't think those will go away, they will fall part of, if _ don't think those will go away, they will fall part of, if there is _ don't think those will go away, they will fall part of, if there is a - will fall part of, if there is a leadership— will fall part of, if there is a leadership contest, - will fall part of, if there is a leadership contest, they i will fall part of, if there is al leadership contest, they will will fall part of, if there is a - leadership contest, they will be a bil leadership contest, they will be a big part _ leadership contest, they will be a big part of— leadership contest, they will be a big part of that _ leadership contest, they will be a big part of that. so _ leadership contest, they will be a big part of that. so this _ leadership contest, they will be a big part of that. so this won't - big part of that. so this won't resolve — big part of that. so this won't resolve it _ big part of that. so this won't resolve it but _ big part of that. so this won't resolve it but even _ big part of that. so this won't resolve it but even if - big part of that. so this won't resolve it but even if there i big part of that. so this won't resolve it but even if there is| big part of that. so this won't. resolve it but even if there is a leadership— resolve it but even if there is a leadership contest, _ resolve it but even if there is a leadership contest, those - resolve it but even if there is a - leadership contest, those divisions between _ leadership contest, those divisions between the — leadership contest, those divisions between the conservative - leadership contest, those divisions between the conservative party- leadership contest, those divisions| between the conservative party will still exist _ between the conservative party will still exist and — between the conservative party will still exist and they'll— between the conservative party will still exist and they'll still— between the conservative party will still exist and they'll still be - still exist and they'll still be very— still exist and they'll still be very tricky— still exist and they'll still be very tricky to _ still exist and they'll still be very tricky to resolve. - still exist and they'll still be very tricky to resolve. i - still exist and they'll still be very tricky to resolve.- still exist and they'll still be very tricky to resolve. i told you earlier in _ very tricky to resolve. i told you earlier in the _ very tricky to resolve. i told you earlier in the programme - very tricky to resolve. i told you earlier in the programme that l very tricky to resolve. i told you - earlier in the programme that andrew morrison had resigned his post earlier this evening, he is with us from our westminster studio. thank you so much for being with us. you don't feel able to carry on in your position, why? t don't feel able to carry on in your position. why?— position, why? i really don't, i value my _ position, why? i really don't, i value my position, _ position, why? i really don't, i value my position, i've -

position, why? i really don't, i value my position, i've done i position, why? i really don't, i value my position, i've done itj position, why? i really don't, i i value my position, i've done it for a while, it's important to me. but in good conscience i can't carry on, and with borisjohnson as prime minister, since thejob is part of his patronage, that's why i resigned it today. what's really tipped it to me was lord mcdonald's letter this morning to the parliamentary committee for standards. since i know lauren been called, i worked with him at the foreign office, i thought that was the last straw. did ou thought that was the last straw. did you feel that the prime minister had lied to you? t you feel that the prime minister had lied to ou? ~ lied to you? i think the prime minister's relationship - lied to you? i think the prime minister's relationship with i lied to you? i think the prime l minister's relationship with the truth is not what i would expect from the prime minister of this country. that's been a concern for many people. when i've been knocking on doors two by elections and local elections, the same root message has been relayed to me that's the same message. it is by elections and may have formed my thinking on the matter. ~ , , :, ,

have formed my thinking on the matter. , , :, , ., , have formed my thinking on the matter. , . :, , ., matter. why should we trust any of boris johnson's _ matter. why should we trust any of boris johnson's senior _ matter. why should we trust any of boris johnson's senior ministers - borisjohnson's senior ministers when they can't trust in what they are being told by downing street? indeed, i would say those who resigned need to be very careful because they are obviously implicated in that, and what's going on. i would implicated in that, and what's going on. iwould pay implicated in that, and what's going on. i would pay tribute to the senior colleagues, cabinet colleagues who resigned today, one of whom i've just spoken to. because it is a really difficult thing to do, your instinct is always to be loyal to your leader, and mine certainly has been — i've always had my 20 year parliamentary committee, utterly loyal, but i can't take this, i can't stick any longer. where do you think the party is tonight, how long do you give boris johnson? t tonight, how long do you give boris johnson? :, �* ,, :, tonight, how long do you give boris johnson? ,, :, ., , tonight, how long do you give boris johnson? ,, :, ., johnson? i don't know, any other leader would've _ johnson? i don't know, any other leader would've been _ johnson? i don't know, any other leader would've been long - johnson? i don't know, any other leader would've been long gone i johnson? i don't know, any other. leader would've been long gone by now, but boris is unique. i have no idea, it's a job, now, but boris is unique. i have no idea, it'sajob, in now, but boris is unique. i have no

idea, it's ajob, in my now, but boris is unique. i have no idea, it's a job, in my opinion, for other cabinet colleagues and ministers, they need to consider whether they want to continue to be associated with this, or whether they too should resign. i suspect they too should resign. i suspect the 1922 committee will change its rules. my message to boris would be, for goodness' sake, go now. you've done some good things as prime minister and you should be proud of those, and you need to part with some sense of honour. that means going now. some sense of honour. that means going now-— some sense of honour. that means auoin now. : ., going now. and your message to those set around him. _ going now. and your message to those set around him, the _ going now. and your message to those set around him, the senior ministers . set around him, the senior ministers who may well come to you in a few weeks' time asking for your support as a future leader of the party? that's an extremely good question, and i think a lot of my colleagues are thinking those who stick around will probably discount themselves as future leadership. 50 will probably discount themselves as future leadership.— future leadership. so would you say sa'id javid future leadership. so would you say sajid javid and _ future leadership. so would you say sajid javid and rishi _ future leadership. so would you say sajid javid and rishi sunak - future leadership. so would you say sajid javid and rishi sunakjumpedl sajid javid and rishi sunakjumped to the front of the q? t sajid javid and rishi sunak 'umped to the front of the 02h to the front of the q? i think what they've done _ to the front of the q? i think what they've done today _ to the front of the q? i think what they've done today is _ to the front of the q? i think what they've done today is extremely i they've done today is extremely honourable, i would expect nothing less of them and they certainly have improved their prospects in my view. there is a repeated pattern of the

prime minister going out and does like this and speaking to his prime ministers —— is colleagues, what sort of feedback has there been? t wasn't part of the rounds, i have no idea what impact it had. but i think the mood in my party is fractious, to put it mildly. i know that if we were to have a vote of no—confidence again today, the result would be even more alarming for the prime minister than it was a very short while ago, it would be well over the 148. , ., ., y ., 148. very grateful for your time, thanks very _ 148. very grateful for your time, thanks very much. _ 148. very grateful for your time, thanks very much. we _ 148. very grateful for your time, thanks very much. we don't - 148. very grateful for your time, | thanks very much. we don't have 148. very grateful for your time, - thanks very much. we don't have very long left, but can i get a brief thought from each of you — busy day tomorrow, pmqs, what are you expecting? a, tomorrow, pmqs, what are you expecting?— tomorrow, pmqs, what are you expecting? a really difficult day for the prime minister. - expecting? a really difficult day for the prime minister. i- expecting? a really difficult day for the prime minister. i think | expecting? a really difficult day i for the prime minister. i think we will see _ for the prime minister. i think we will see more _ for the prime minister. i think we will see more awkwardness, - for the prime minister. i think wei will see more awkwardness, more happenings. — will see more awkwardness, more happenings. i_ will see more awkwardness, more happenings. idont— will see more awkwardness, more happenings, i don't know- will see more awkwardness, more happenings, i don't know whether|

happenings, i don't know whether it'll be _ happenings, i don't know whether it'll be resignations, _ happenings, idon't know whether it'll be resignations, but- happenings, i don't know whether it'll be resignations, but more - it'll be resignations, but more people — it'll be resignations, but more people publishing _ it'll be resignations, but more people publishing letters- it'll be resignations, but more people publishing letters and| people publishing letters and probably— people publishing letters and probably an _ people publishing letters and probably an idea _ people publishing letters and probably an idea of— people publishing letters and probably an idea of a - people publishing letters and. probably an idea of a potential timetable _ probably an idea of a potential timetable for— probably an idea of a potential timetable for a vote _ probably an idea of a potential timetable for a vote of- probably an idea of a potential- timetable for a vote of confidence. people _ timetable for a vote of confidence. people will— timetable for a vote of confidence. people will be _ timetable for a vote of confidence. people will be starting _ timetable for a vote of confidence. people will be starting to - timetable for a vote of confidence. | people will be starting to campaign for those _ people will be starting to campaign for those jobs — people will be starting to campaign for those jobs in _ people will be starting to campaign for those jobs in the _ people will be starting to campaign for those jobs in the 1922 _ for those jobs in the 1922 committee, _ for those jobs in the 1922 committee, so _ for those jobs in the 1922 committee, so it'll- for those jobs in the 1922 committee, so it'll be i for those jobs in the 1922 committee, so it'll be a i for those jobs in the 1922 - committee, so it'll be a really febrile — committee, so it'll be a really febrile day. _ committee, so it'll be a really febrile day, that's _ committee, so it'll be a really febrile day, that's always - committee, so it'll be a really febrile day, that's always the| committee, so it'll be a really- febrile day, that's always the word with westminster— febrile day, that's always the word with westminster in _ febrile day, that's always the word with westminster in these - febrile day, that's always the word with westminster in these times. i with westminster in these times. caroline, — with westminster in these times. caroline, does— with westminster in these times. caroline, does the _ with westminster in these times. caroline, does the opposition - with westminster in these times. i caroline, does the opposition have a role to play in this? qt caroline, does the opposition have a role to play in this?— role to play in this? of course they have come — role to play in this? of course they have come a _ role to play in this? of course they have come a part _ role to play in this? of course they have come a part of _ role to play in this? of course they have come a part of their- role to play in this? of course they have come a part of their role - role to play in this? of course they have come a part of their role is i role to play in this? of course they have come a part of their role is to maintain the momentum as well of this wall of noise of what's happened in the last week, and particularly in terms of what's been revealed today in terms of the prime minister having to change his knowledge of what happened with chris pincher. they will be keeping up chris pincher. they will be keeping up that noise, but as we've heard tonight, the biggest dangerfor the prime minister who is not likely to move lightly is what's coming from his own backbenchers. as they used to say in thunderbirds, a lot can

happen in the next one to four hours. , :, , :, happen in the next one to four hours. , :, , ., , ., hours. joe, restarting the starting run on a hours. joe, restarting the starting gun on a leadership _ hours. joe, restarting the starting gun on a leadership contest, - hours. joe, restarting the starting gun on a leadership contest, with| hours. joe, restarting the starting i gun on a leadership contest, with an election around the corner? t gun on a leadership contest, with an election around the corner?- election around the corner? i think both are possible _ election around the corner? i think both are possible but _ election around the corner? i think both are possible but not - election around the corner? i think both are possible but not the - election around the corner? i think both are possible but not the most likely— both are possible but not the most likely outcome for the next few days _ likely outcome for the next few days but — likely outcome for the next few days. but beyond that, it really depends — days. but beyond that, it really depends on the prime minister. will he do _ depends on the prime minister. will he do the _ depends on the prime minister. will he do the honourable thing was that he do the honourable thing was that he has _ he do the honourable thing was that he has not _ he do the honourable thing was that he has not been famous for doing the honourable _ he has not been famous for doing the honourable thing up until this moment, _ honourable thing up until this moment, so it remains to be seen how he will— moment, so it remains to be seen how he will deal— moment, so it remains to be seen how he will deal with the next few days and whether he will truly fronted out or— and whether he will truly fronted out or decide at some point that the game _ out or decide at some point that the game is _ out or decide at some point that the game is up — out or decide at some point that the game is uo— game is up. think you all very much for our game is up. think you all very much for your company — game is up. think you all very much for your company this _ game is up. think you all very much for your company this evening. - game is up. think you all very much for your company this evening. let l for your company this evening. let me leave you with a shot of the door in downing street. if you'rejust joining us, two senior cabinet figures resigning tonight, rishi sunak and sajid javid — as the door opens, i can't see who that is...

there it is, the new chancellor, nadeem is a hobby, confirmed in the last few minutes by the queen as the new chancellor of the exchequer. goodbye. hello there. for the rest of this week, we're going to continue with this north—south divide, much of scotland and northern ireland seeing more cloud around, england and wales seeing more of the sunshine and the highest of the temperatures. now, these were the grey skies across county antrim on tuesday. the sunshine did break through at times but the emphasis was on cloud with a little bit of rain later on. whereas much of england and wales, skies like this, plenty of sunny spells, and again it was quite warm. now, as we head through this week, it will be warming up for all areas, but in particular across england and wales where we see more of the sunshine. it's all down to this area of high pressure, which will maintain its position. if anything, it will tend to nudge in towards our shores a bit more. now, we'll have weather fronts affecting the north of the uk on wednesday. quite windy weather as well across much of scotland and northern ireland, the far north of england. i think the rain will slowly peter

out through the day, affecting just mainly the north and west of scotland. northern ireland, much of england and wales should see the best of the sunshine, and 25 celsius will be the high in the south, mid—to—high teens further north. and there'll be a slightly more humid air mass, as well. so as we head through wednesday night, the rain peters out in the north. we're in between weather systems. it's clear systems, variable cloud, quite breezy still across scotland, and look at those temperatures — 11—16 celsius, quite a warm and muggy night to come. so we're into thursday, then. high pressure still dominating the scene for most of us. we're in between weather fronts across scotland, so it should be a dry day for most of scotland throughout the day on thursday. so we start dry, some sunshine around, a little bit of cloud here and there. could see this next weather front encroaching later in the day to bring thicker cloud to western scotland and northern ireland. otherwise, plenty of sunshine around, temperatures responding. it'll be a bit more humid as well on thursday. 19—20 will be the high in the north, up to 26 celsius across 1—2 places in the south.

as we move into friday, it looks like it's going to be pretty similar. again it's going to be a warm and muggy night and that will take us into a very warm day. more cloud around generally across northern england, scotland, northern ireland as another weather front works its way in to here, some patchy rain at times. still, though, given some brightness across southern scotland and northern ireland, we could make 20—21 celsius. up to 27 celsius across the south—east. but widely, the low—to—mid—205 for england and wales. into the weekend, then, our area of high pressure continues to dominate the scene. a few weather fronts continue to scrape across the north of the uk, bringing thicker cloud to north—west scotland. but a lot of sunshine, i think, on saturday for southern scotland, northern ireland and the majority of england and wales, so again, it will feel that bit warmer. 27, maybe 28 celsius across the south—east, high teens, maybe low 20s in the north. now if i run the pressure sequence on for sunday and into the following week, you can see high pressure

dominates the scene, so we're looking at very little rainfall, particularly across england and wales. could see a little bit at times across scotland, but as high pressure dominates at least for the next ten days, then there's going to be a lot of dry weather around. and we're sticking in this warm air mass — in fact, at times next week or the following week, we could tap into some very warm air across southern areas from the near—continent, so that could be evident across the south—east, the london area seeing temperatures into the low 30s there, warm for cardiff, and at times quite warm across northern areas, but there will tend to be more cloud, more of a breeze across scotland and northern ireland compared to southern areas. that's how it's looking, see you later.

tonight at ten — borisjohnson fights to survive as prime minister following two big resignations from the cabinet. rishi sunak is no longer chancellor, suggesting borisjohnson isn't competent or serious, while sajid javid resigns from health, questioning the prime minister's integrity. the last straw was the chaotic handling of the case of chris pincher — the former minister accused of sexual misconduct — and the prime minister's rather confused response. my recollection is that there was one complaint that was raised with me specifically. there was other rumour and innuendo, but there was one particular thing that was raised and that was... which you'd forgotten about? well, it was a long time ago.

the cabinet, which met this morning, is now changed