hello and welcome to bbc news. the race for the conservative leadership and therefore the uk's next prime minister is under way as the candidates battle it out in tonight's tv debate. the five leadership candidates have all agreed that they want to move on from boris johnson's all agreed that they want to move on from borisjohnson�*s government but they have clashed on other issues like trans rights. the first ever extreme heat warning is being issued by the met office for parts of england on monday and tuesday. temperatures in london and parts of central england could reach up to a0 degrees. the warning means a risk to life is likely, and substantial changes in working practices and routines

will be needed. i don't think i have ever experienced weather like that here before. it feels like we're on different continent. over here this city gets over certain temperature and it has been brutal. a british man has reportedly died, believed to be volunteering in ukraine he was taken prisoner along with another man back in april. coming up we will be talking to ukrainian grain, with the mp from edessa who represents constituents in a port city by the black sea.

hello wherever you are in the uk or if you are watching on public service broadcast then united states or anywhere else in the world thank you forjoining us it is a pleasure to have your company. we begin this hourin to have your company. we begin this hour in the uk with the five remaining candidates in the conservative party taking part in a live debate before the vote next week. then it'll be up to conservative party members to decide the new leader and prime minister. prime minister, here is what some of the candidates have been saying in the candidates have been saying in the last half hour they were each asked what they thought of the last prime minister, borisjohnson, was he honest? prime minister, boris johnson, was he honest?—

prime minister, boris johnson, was he honest?_ is - prime minister, boris johnson, was he honest?_ is boris i he honest? sometimes. is boris johnson honest? _ he honest? sometimes. is boris johnson honest? again, - he honest? sometimes. is boris johnson honest? again, i- he honest? sometimes. is boris johnson honest? again, i think. he honest? sometimes. is boris. johnson honest? again, i think he he honest? sometimes. is boris- johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody--- — johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes _ johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes or— johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes or no. _ johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes or no. i _ johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes or no. i am - johnson honest? again, i think he is somebody... yes or no. i am not. somebody... yes or no. i am not doinu a somebody... yes or no. i am not doing a yes _ somebody. .. yes or no. i am not doing a yes or— somebody... yes or no. i am not doing a yes or no _ somebody... yes or no. i am not doing a yes or no it _ somebody... yes or no. i am not doing a yes or no it would - somebody... yes or no. i am not doing a yes or no it would be - somebody... yes or no. i am not i doing a yes or no it would be wrong to do— doing a yes or no it would be wrong to do that — doing a yes or no it would be wrong to do that. there would have been some _ to do that. there would have been some really severe issues and i think— some really severe issues and i think that — some really severe issues and i think that he has played a price for that _ think that he has played a price for that i_ think that he has played a price for that. ., , that. i tried to given the benefit ofthe that. i tried to given the benefit of the doubt — that. i tried to given the benefit of the doubt for _ that. i tried to given the benefit of the doubt for as _ that. i tried to given the benefit of the doubt for as long as - that. i tried to given the benefit - of the doubt for as long as possible but i of the doubt for as long as possible but i have _ of the doubt for as long as possible but i have reached _ of the doubt for as long as possible but i have reached to _ of the doubt for as long as possible but i have reached to the _ of the doubt for as long as possible | but i have reached to the conclusion i did but i have reached to the conclusion i did and _ but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that — but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that is _ but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that is why— but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that is why i— but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that is why i resigned. - but i have reached to the conclusion i did and that is why i resigned. sol i did and that is why i resigned. so he i did and that is why i resigned. fl: he is i did and that is why i resigned. he is not honest? i did and that is why i resigned. so he is not honest? there _ i did and that is why i resigned. so he is not honest? there are - i did and that is why i resigned. so he is not honest? there are a - i did and that is why i resigned. so i he is not honest? there are a number of reasons why _ he is not honest? there are a number of reasons why a _ he is not honest? there are a number of reasons why a resigned _ he is not honest? there are a number of reasons why a resigned honesty - of reasons why a resigned honesty was that— of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he — of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he has _ of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he has been— of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he has been clear- of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he has been clear that. of reasons why a resigned honesty was that he has been clear that he has brexit. — was that he has been clear that he has brexit, dealing _ was that he has been clear that he has brexit, dealing with— was that he has been clear that he has brexit, dealing with covid. - was that he has been clear that he has brexit, dealing with covid. he| has brexit, dealing with covid. he himsetf— has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is— has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is said _ has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is said that _ has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is said that some - has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is said that some of- has brexit, dealing with covid. he himself is said that some of the l himself is said that some of the status— himself is said that some of the status issued _ himself is said that some of the status issued were _ himself is said that some of the status issued were not - himself is said that some of the status issued were not hundred| status issued were not hundred percent — status issued were not hundred percent accurate _ status issued were not hundred percent accurate so _ status issued were not hundred percent accurate so i _ status issued were not hundred percent accurate so i take - status issued were not hundred percent accurate so i take thatl status issued were not hundred i percent accurate so i take that at face value — percent accurate so i take that at face value is— percent accurate so i take that at face value-— percent accurate so i take that at facevalue. .,

i'm joined by our political correspondent nick eardley. well, wasn't that interesting way to start. �* , ,., , ., well, wasn't that interesting way to start. �* , , ., ., , start. absolutely, what really struck me was _ start. absolutely, what really struck me was ten _ start. absolutely, what really struck me was ten days - start. absolutely, what really struck me was ten days ago | start. absolutely, what really i struck me was ten days ago four start. absolutely, what really - struck me was ten days ago four of the five people on stage were in boris johnson's the five people on stage were in borisjohnson's government, in boris johnson's government, in different borisjohnson's government, in different roles. the only one who was in was tom tugendhat. yet they are all trying very hard to move on from borisjohnson and basically dump a lot of that record. you had that clip we just played which showed none of them saying that they thought borisjohnson was honest and that yes or no answer. none of them would say specifically yesterday answer. they have also been trying to dump a lot of his economic policies, the exception of rishi sunak, they want to lower taxes immediately. so, that's really

interesting there have been some proper blue on blue attacks. rishi sunak is the frontrunner in this race when it comes to mps, the big battle is to be the other person, the person who comes second and gets in the final ballot that goes to conservative members. penny mordaunt has a lot of the momentum in that racejust has a lot of the momentum in that race just now. and she is feeling the heat actually from kemi badenoch another of the candidate who is been questioning some of the policies she had when it comes to self identification for trans people. kemi badenoch doesn't believe what penny mordaunt was my account was of what she did when she was in government. so you can see that the way the issues are being used by the different candidates to try and draw some lines between them. the —— for her part, penny is saying that she feels... that everyone is coming for

her. it looks like it's going to get dirty in that race. i her. it looks like it's going to get dirty in that race.— her. it looks like it's going to get dirty in that race. i 'ust wanted to mention the h dirty in that race. i 'ust wanted to mention the penny— dirty in that race. ijust wanted to mention the penny mordaunt, - dirty in that race. ijust wanted to - mention the penny mordaunt, thought by many the likely winner, at least the one with most momentum. truth? by many the likely winner, at least the one with most momentum. why you can trust me _ the one with most momentum. why you can trust me is — the one with most momentum. why you can trust me is because _ the one with most momentum. why you can trust me is because i _ the one with most momentum. why you can trust me is because i had _ the one with most momentum. why you can trust me is because i had spoken . can trust me is because i had spoken truth to power. i had an opportunity to serve at an opportunity to serve it in high office in this government and my answer to this government was eager longer than the traditional one. i have also poured out things i think have to change in this party, some of the way this that we are finance for example. the some of the way this that we are finance for example.— some of the way this that we are finance for example. the focus on penny mordaunt, _ finance for example. the focus on penny mordaunt, her— finance for example. the focus on penny mordaunt, her enemies - finance for example. the focus on | penny mordaunt, her enemies are attacking, we had lord frost who is attacking, we had lord frost who is a former boss responsible for eu negotiations talking about this issue. very critical of her when she was his deputy he got the prime

minister to move her. in some ways doesn't this help because if everyone is talking about penny mordaunt they are not talking about liz truss or rishi sunak or kemi badenoch or tom tugendhat. i think that is absolutely _ badenoch or tom tugendhat. i think that is absolutely right, _ badenoch or tom tugendhat. i think that is absolutely right, for - badenoch or tom tugendhat. i think that is absolutely right, for her - that is absolutely right, for her part penny mordaunt is quite comfortable being someone in the spotlight. she has released... in the top three when you compare her to rishi sunak, liz truss who are on the television quite a lot she is fairly unknown. i think the reason it matters that she is facing all the scrutiny and the reason it could be quite important actually is because tory mps are going to choose next week, conservative mps are going to choose next week who is about through the to the final. at the moment the ones who aren't backing penny mordaunt or liz truss are sort of weighing up their options, do they want to move into one of those camps to try and make a

decisive decision to help one of them get into the final two? if they are starting to hear penny mordaunt come under scrutiny for things they are not comfortable where they might get slightly nervous and think about when it goes to the tory never ship are they going to be nervous too, when it comes to the public in a general election might they not be on board? it really is all to play for at the moment. that scrutiny in that mudslinging i suspect is going to continue because the stakes are high and there is not much time. i'll leave you to carry on watching the rest of the debate. we'll talk to you again later. thank you very much. let's take a look at the intense heatwave gripping europe. it's so hot in some areas, that it's threatening human health. here in the uk, downing street has declared a national emergency — as it predicts temperatures could hit an unprecedented a0 degrees in parts of england next week. the met office has put out a red

weather warning for extreme heat for the first time ever — saying that next monday and tuesday there is a risk to life even for healthy people — in this area covering london and the midlands, you can see it there the red part of the map. even parts outside of that red will be feeling extreme heat. the area affected, goes. as far north as manchester and york. there is an amber alert too which covers the rest of england, all of wales and parts of southern scotland. our climate editorjustin rowlatt reports from west london, where temperatures are expected to soar. the uk has been put on emergency footing, as we're told, to prepare to bake in an all time record heat wave. health chiefs fear hospitals could be overwhelmed by heat related casualties. even the fit and healthy are at risk

of serious illness and even death. we have got increasing number of people coming in because of the heat and that's maybe some of the standard sunburn and dehydration. but also we've got an elderly population in this locality and that plays havoc with blood pressure and medications and interactions with dehydration. from that point of view. expect transport to be disrupted, the government says it is warning heat sensitive equipment is likely to fail and could cause power cuts and interruption to water and mobile phone services. many schools say they'll be sending children home early on monday and tuesday as temperatures are expected to peak in the afternoon. so here's what's causing this exceptional weather. southern europe is already experiencing a record heatwave and clear skies and parched ground are driving temperatures even higher. on monday, that blister of hot air will be drawn over central and southern england and parts of wales. stable conditions means the heat can continue to build

to the expected record highs. this brutal heat is part of a clear trend. just look how average maximum daily temperatures have increased since records began almost a century ago. there are a few ups and downs along the way, but the long term upward trajectory is obvious and it's been accelerating in recent decades. look at this. this shows the top ten hottest days ever recorded. and look, seven of them are in the last 20 years. that is why the met office says it was just a matter of time before the uk experienced scorching heat like this. a0 degrees is an exceptionally rare temperature in the uk. should we get there. and we've got a 50/50 chance of that and our forecast at the moment, we think that should be a one in 100 toi in 300 year event in a non disrupted climate. and we predict that it could be one in 15 years or even more frequent

than that by 2100. and that depends on the emissions path that we choose as a species and how quickly we reduce towards net zero. so remember, keep hydrated, stay in the shade, wear loose clothing, and last of all, slow down. justin rowlatt reporting from london. let's get more now on continental europe which is also facing extreme temperatures, with wildfires burning in parts of france, spain and portugal. high winds and tinder—dry conditions have helped to fuel the flames. our correspondent bethany bell reports from the algarve on the south coast of portugal. forests are aflame in southern europe after days of searing heat. wildfires continue to spread in southwestern france. hundreds of people had to be evacuated from the countryside around salamanca in spain was on fire. in portugal, the flames reached one of the country's main motorways.

the emergency services are on high alert. in faro, in the algarve, some holiday—makers decided to go home early when the flames got too close. we're leaving because the fire was apparently controlled yesterday. but it's coming very close to our house. we were renting for one week of holiday and we decided not to stay for one day with with the risk of fire so close to us. portugal has experienced record high temperatures this week, a grim reality. climate change is, i think, that one of the conditions that make it harder to firefighting this kind of fires and they always get bigger fire by fire. but the firefighters are making a good, very good job. this is what the flames leave behind. scorched pine groves on the very edge of the city. this wooded area near faro

is still smoldering. and there is a real danger that with the wind, sparks could fly and start another fire. it's a constant battle for the firefighters to keep this under control after weeks of drought. the ground here is tinder dry and with temperatures rising there, fears of more wildfires in the years to come. bethany bell, bbc news, faro. let's return to talk about ukraine. turkey announced yesterday that a deal had been reached to lift the blockade of black sea exports of ukraine grain. though ukraine was able to send some part of its grain by road or train — approximately 2.5 million tonnes last month — it was far from the 8 million monthly tonnes that the country used to export before the war. the agreement could be signed next week and would make a significant

impact on countries which used to mostly import wheat from ukraine, like moldova, lebanon or qatar. with me in the studio is ukrainian mp for odesa oleksiy goncharenko. let's speak now with rhiannon phillips, associate analyst at sibylline and specialised on middle east and north africa. how significant potentially is this deal? very significant not only for our country but for the whole planet. when 400 million people in the whole planet are dependent on this grain how is it not significant? this is very significant. today we have an artificial famine which started in north africa and middle east because of what putin is doing in the black sea. because of this awful blockade. and he is acting as a terrorist

because he took millions people of hostages because of his political plans and all this disaster that he is causing. so that is very important for the whole world and definitely for ukraine. in important for the whole world and definitely for ukraine.— definitely for ukraine. in terms of what it would _ definitely for ukraine. in terms of what it would mean _ definitely for ukraine. in terms of what it would mean for— definitely for ukraine. in terms of| what it would mean for ukrainians how confident could you be there to deal with your representative signatures in the russian representative signatures on it would stick on the ground? what kind of international reassurances do you need before people would be comfortable with the idea of getting on a boat and being involved in the export of grain out through the territorial waters of ukraine in the middle of a war? i territorial waters of ukraine in the middle of a war?— territorial waters of ukraine in the middle of a war? i think one lesson which is nearby _ middle of a war? i think one lesson which is nearby the _ middle of a war? i think one lesson which is nearby the whole - middle of a war? i think one lesson which is nearby the whole world - which is nearby the whole world today and and that is never believe russia. this whole year, we are not going to attack ukraine, we are not

going to attack ukraine, we are not going to attack ukraine, we are not going to invade ukraine, there are no plans. this is the country and people and regime which lies 20 47, so we don't believe them so i feel that if there will be military oppression ukraine is doing it, thanks to africa we are receiving muscles which are important. i hope you will receive more and that will give us military help. cruise missile which is a submarine, also elaborated snake island and that is a military operation. political liberation that countries such say, what are you doing? you are killing us thousands of people are killed in ukraine. but millions of people could die because of famine and also economical. today every day millions of barrels of oil... the world

should say, oil and grain needs to pass. now let's speak to... can should say, oil and grain needs to pass. now let's speak to. .. can you tell us between _ pass. now let's speak to. .. can you tell us between the _ pass. now let's speak to. .. can you tell us between the russian - pass. now let's speak to. .. can you tell us between the russian and - tell us between the russian and ukrainian counterpart if the deal is done, how can it be enforced on what difference do you think it would make? . ~ difference do you think it would make? ., ~' ,, difference do you think it would make? ., ,, i. ., difference do you think it would make? ., ,, ., ., make? thank you for having me. in terms of what _ make? thank you for having me. in terms of what we _ make? thank you for having me. in terms of what we know, details - make? thank you for having me. in terms of what we know, details are j terms of what we know, details are very thin _ terms of what we know, details are very thin with what this agreement would _ very thin with what this agreement would result in. we do know that this is— would result in. we do know that this is being headed by the turkish president — this is being headed by the turkish president. he has a lot to gain finesse — president. he has a lot to gain finesse and crucially it would need to he _ finesse and crucially it would need to he a _ finesse and crucially it would need to he a un — finesse and crucially it would need to be a un backed deal. so we have seen realty— to be a un backed deal. so we have seen really senior members of the un humanitarian chief, at the centre of talks _ humanitarian chief, at the centre of talks it _ humanitarian chief, at the centre of talks it is — humanitarian chief, at the centre of talks. it is important not to understate that these two sides have come _ understate that these two sides have come together and discuss this, and at an— come together and discuss this, and at an incredibly inflammatory state of the _ at an incredibly inflammatory state of the conflict as we have discussed. but it is un chief that has said — discussed. but it is un chief that has said that a lot more needs to be done _ has said that a lot more needs to be done we _ has said that a lot more needs to be done. we are seeing two conflicting

narratives— done. we are seeing two conflicting narratives come. we have seen a un be incredibly— narratives come. we have seen a un be incredibly cautious because of reasons— be incredibly cautious because of reasons that we have just stated, there _ reasons that we have just stated, there is— reasons that we have just stated, there is a — reasons that we have just stated, there is a two warring parties that are involved in a conflict. we also then— are involved in a conflict. we also then have — are involved in a conflict. we also then have the turkish defence minister— then have the turkish defence minister who is, then have the turkish defence ministerwho is, and then have the turkish defence minister who is, and said that there is going _ minister who is, and said that there is going to — minister who is, and said that there is going to be a deal signed next week— is going to be a deal signed next week in— is going to be a deal signed next week in istanbul. he's been incredibly confident about this. in terms _ incredibly confident about this. in terms of— incredibly confident about this. in terms of the part that i could play unless, _ terms of the part that i could play unless, that is very significant as welt _ unless, that is very significant as welt it— unless, that is very significant as well. it would be an establishment of a de _ well. it would be an establishment of a de facto coordination centre that turkey would have to monitor. all parties — that turkey would have to monitor. all parties would have to be signatory to this as well. there would — signatory to this as well. there would have to be checkpoints for shipments. what we are looking at the moment is that 20 2 million tonnes of— the moment is that 20 2 million tonnes of grain is in stark ukrainian port to stop there have been _ ukrainian port to stop there have been reports that under russian control— been reports that under russian control they have already been sending — control they have already been sending this grain to pause elsewhere. i sending this grain to pause elsewhere.— sending this grain to pause elsewhere. ., ., , , ., elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on something _ elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on something you — elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on something you talked _ elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on something you talked about - elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on something you talked about in - elsewhere. i wanted to pick up on i something you talked about in wheat imports, you provided us with a map which gives us an idea of how these

areas, and the areas of demand in particularfor areas, and the areas of demand in particular for the grain. areas, and the areas of demand in particularfor the grain. what areas, and the areas of demand in particular for the grain. what is the map show. particular for the grain. what is the man show— particular for the grain. what is the map show. particular for the grain. what is the ma show. , .,, , ., ., .,, the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and — the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and it _ the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and it shows _ the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and it shows from _ the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and it shows from 2016 - the map show. this map is a heat map of ukraine and it shows from 2016 to l of ukraine and it shows from 2016 to 2020 _ of ukraine and it shows from 2016 to 2020 the _ of ukraine and it shows from 2016 to 2020 the percentages of the areas where there has been the most wheat production _ where there has been the most wheat production. this doesn't necessarily mean _ production. this doesn't necessarily mean this— production. this doesn't necessarily mean this is— production. this doesn't necessarily mean this is the area where most wheat— mean this is the area where most wheat is— mean this is the area where most wheat is exported, this is going to be in _ wheat is exported, this is going to be in the — wheat is exported, this is going to be in the port areas, but this is where — be in the port areas, but this is where there is most production. what's — where there is most production. what's interesting about this map is that if— what's interesting about this map is that if we _ what's interesting about this map is that if we look at it and we look at where _ that if we look at it and we look at where conflict has been taking place where _ where conflict has been taking place where an _ where conflict has been taking place where an intensification of fighting has happened over the last couple of weeks. _ has happened over the last couple of weeks, there are similarities. the parts _ weeks, there are similarities. the parts that— weeks, there are similarities. the parts that are read we have seen the most _ parts that are read we have seen the most intense fighting in the last couple _ most intense fighting in the last couple of— most intense fighting in the last couple of weeks particularly in the donbas— couple of weeks particularly in the donbas region. and the focus is on odesa _ donbas region. and the focus is on odesa this — donbas region. and the focus is on odesa. this agreement comes amidst an inflammatory stage of the

conflict — an inflammatory stage of the conflict and that will past to many peoples _ conflict and that will past to many peoples minds that is interesting to see if— peoples minds that is interesting to see if this _ peoples minds that is interesting to see if this does go ahead, what the implications will be for, not just own ukraine in europe, but for the wider— own ukraine in europe, but for the wider world — own ukraine in europe, but for the wider world as well. the own ukraine in europe, but for the wider world as well.— own ukraine in europe, but for the wider world as well. the question to ask is what — wider world as well. the question to ask is what is _ wider world as well. the question to ask is what is in _ wider world as well. the question to ask is what is in its _ wider world as well. the question to ask is what is in its russia _ wider world as well. the question to ask is what is in its russia full - ask is what is in its russia full stop for after all the price of wheat has gone up in russia has been benefiting from that. yes wheat has gone up in russia has been benefiting from that.— benefiting from that. yes they are benefitin: benefiting from that. yes they are benefiting from _ benefiting from that. yes they are benefiting from it. _ benefiting from that. yes they are benefiting from it. the _ benefiting from that. yes they are benefiting from it. the new - benefiting from that. yes they are benefiting from it. the new waves benefiting from that. yes they are i benefiting from it. the new waves of refugees. they tend swim through the mediterranean because of hunger. i think this leverages of the air, as i said to you. only loveridge can make them. they don't want this deal, they don't want any d block. i think the word to say stop it. that is up to the free world and in general in the world because these countries, egypt, 100 million population for 80% they are dependent on wheat from ukraine and

russia. 80%, just imagine this number. russia. 80%, 'ust imagine this number. ~ ., ., , , , , russia. 80%, 'ust imagine this number. ~ ., ., ,, , , ., number. what happens in terms of the exort, if number. what happens in terms of the export. if they — number. what happens in terms of the export. if they can _ number. what happens in terms of the export, if they can get _ number. what happens in terms of the export, if they can get that, _ export, if they can get that, of the grain that are sitting in silos. has it been possible to have a planting season, has a minnow to continue or do we think next year there will be a shortish?— a shortish? absolutely. all of next ear will a shortish? absolutely. all of next year will be _ a shortish? absolutely. all of next year will be under _ a shortish? absolutely. all of next year will be under danger. - a shortish? absolutely. all of next| year will be under danger. because now how this collection season has started in ukraine. it comes as russia is attacking, there are some fields i have been destroyed. but still it comes and ukraine will finish it. but next season will start in autumn and to start at ukrainian farmers need money, need soil, need security. and that is what we're to do. so if it will be disrupted it will have huge consequences for the year ahead. on the situation will get worse. i gather you have met some of the british conservative leadership parties, what is the picture you are

making to them? i parties, what is the picture you are making to them?— parties, what is the picture you are making to them? i can tell you that the have making to them? i can tell you that they have a — making to them? i can tell you that they have a clear— making to them? i can tell you that | they have a clear understanding that situation and black sea is of high importance for the whole planet and the united kingdom. and they will do everything they can to change the situation for better. and i am sure that it was where the government of borisjohnson, and whoever will be prime minister, i hope they will continue this effort. in the uk can play a crucial role both the security council member and big navy power. let security council member and big navy ower. ., , ., ., ., power. let me return to you on a coule power. let me return to you on a couple of — power. let me return to you on a couple of the — power. let me return to you on a couple of the wider _ power. let me return to you on a couple of the wider questions. i power. let me return to you on a| couple of the wider questions. we have ajoe couple of the wider questions. we have a joe biden visit in the middle east where he is clearly trying to strengthen the position in terms of trying to shore up saudi arabia support. they are looking at the question of iran. we know that russia is extending its influence in the middle east. we increasingly get a sense that we are back to a cold war situation. a sense that we are back to a cold warsituation. both

a sense that we are back to a cold war situation. both sides are looking for their proxies. iran also has a role in terms of ukraine at the moment which is an intriguing thought. the moment which is an intriguing thou:ht. , ., , thought. yes we have seen in the last couple _ thought. yes we have seen in the last couple of— thought. yes we have seen in the last couple of days _ thought. yes we have seen in the last couple of days us _ thought. yes we have seen in the | last couple of days us intelligence and national security that iran is planning — and national security that iran is planning on sending hundreds of drones. — planning on sending hundreds of drones, some of which are supposedly come _ drones, some of which are supposedly come back— drones, some of which are supposedly come back to russia. again, as with the deal. _ come back to russia. again, as with the deal. the — come back to russia. again, as with the deal, the details of this are very— the deal, the details of this are very thin — the deal, the details of this are very thin. we don't how much money russia _ very thin. we don't how much money russia will— very thin. we don't how much money russia will be sending for these trains, — russia will be sending for these trains, we — russia will be sending for these trains, we don't know the ins and outs— trains, we don't know the ins and outs of— trains, we don't know the ins and outs of the — trains, we don't know the ins and outs of the drones. what we do know is that— outs of the drones. what we do know is that iran _ outs of the drones. what we do know is that iran has been expanding its drone _ is that iran has been expanding its drone technology for the past 20 decades — drone technology for the past 20 decades. and the main thing immediately for ukraine conflict as this will— immediately for ukraine conflict as this will open up a new theatre of conflict _ this will open up a new theatre of conflict in — this will open up a new theatre of conflict in a — this will open up a new theatre of conflict in a different type of theatre _ conflict in a different type of theatre. so we have seen that this isn't a _ theatre. so we have seen that this isn't a new— theatre. so we have seen that this isn't a new trend, as they try and sell their— isn't a new trend, as they try and sell their drone technology to increase _ sell their drone technology to increase their political stance. if iran increase their political stance. if iran will— increase their political stance. if iran will provide these mechanisms to russia _ iran will provide these mechanisms to russia that we have seen them

provide _ to russia that we have seen them provide to— to russia that we have seen them provide to their proxies as we have 'ust provide to their proxies as we have just seen — provide to their proxies as we have just seen. this is looking again at these _ just seen. this is looking again at these groups that have used these low flying — these groups that have used these low flying drones to attack critical infrastructure in saudi arabia so they— infrastructure in saudi arabia so they are — infrastructure in saudi arabia so they are physically going to looking at this, _ they are physically going to looking at this, this advance drone technology. at this, this advance drone technology-— at this, this advance drone technology. forgive me for interrupting _ technology. forgive me for interrupting you. _ technology. forgive me for interrupting you. thank - technology. forgive me for| interrupting you. thank you technology. forgive me for i interrupting you. thank you so technology. forgive me for - interrupting you. thank you so much stop in the last 30 seconds or so we have at the end of the programme. you are here in the uk at the moment you have been meeting those people in government to talk to them and try and keep british support. where are to next? i try and keep british support. where are to next?— are to next? i am coming to washington to _ washington to testify before congress next week about what is happening in ukraine. it is very important the position and role in the united states both in grain and in general and this war. share the united states both in grain and in general and this war.— in general and this war. are you worried that _ in general and this war. are you worried that the _ in general and this war. are you worried that the biden - worried that the biden administration does not have the stomach to keep this going? i don't have this worry, i believe _ stomach to keep this going? i don't have this worry, i believe they i have this worry, i believe they understand their responsibility before the whole free world. they should show leadership and we need to help them.

should show leadership and we need to help them-— to help them. thank you for being with us on — to help them. thank you for being with us on bbc— to help them. thank you for being with us on bbc news. _ to help them. thank you for being with us on bbc news. don't i to help them. thank you for being | with us on bbc news. don't forget you can keep up with more on our website. you have been watching bbc news. the met office issued an unprecedented extreme heat warming for large areas of england which is going to be the peak of our heatwave felt widespread impacts to health and infrastructure expected. the red warning covers many of england's largest cities ranging from northern england and the south—east. however, there is an amber warning in force as well conveying all of england and wales and parts of southern scotland. where here too we could see impacts to health and infrastructure. temperatures in soaring over recent days. we were only a few tenths away of the degree from the all—time national portuguese record, that he is now

pushing northwards. come monday and tuesday temperatures in the uk could hit an extraordinary 40 celsius. that would smash the all—time temperature record which currently stands at 37.8 degrees celsius. overnight in itis is going to be a reason we can't or night. a few showers in scotland otherwise drive. temperatures between nine and 14 celsius. open your window saturday morning and let that air in and then shut them. as we go through saturday many areas sunny amigo to see those temperatures rising widely into the mid to high 20s. well comfortable conditions for scotland and northern ireland where generally we are looking at highs into the low 20s. elsewhere we are going to start to see that he continue to build and instead of talking about temperatures at the high 20s, quite widely in england and wales we are looking at those temperatures surging into the low 30s. really dangerous heat starts to build across parts of the uk on monday.

that is and we are going to see some extraordinary temperatures potentially hitting 40 celsius. this could be the day that smashes the all—time uk temperature record. the heat is pushing its way into scotland and northern ireland as well. it's notjust by day that those temperatures can cause issues, this is ten o'clock monday night. this is 33 degrees in the centre of london, about 30 in liverpool. very difficult for getting a decent nights sleep. so extreme he is going to cause problems, widespread problems for infrastructure and health are expected.

hello this is bbc news, with shaun ley. the headlines: the race for the conservative leadership and therefore the uk's next prime minister is underway as the candidates battle it out in tonight's tv debate.

will be talking to a small panel of conservative writers and politician. the first ever extreme heat warning is being issued by the met office for parts of england on monday and tuesday. temperatures in london and parts of central england could reach up to 40 degrees. the warning means a risk to life is likely, and substantial changes in working practices and routines will be needed. i don't think i have ever experienced weather like that here before. it feels like we're on a different continent. over here this city gets over certain temperature and it has been brutal. a judge rules life—support treatment for archie battersbee can end. the 12 year—old suffered a catastrophic brain injury three months ago. his mother says she'll keep fighting. that means a lot to me, because it is getting the awareness out there. it could save one more of life, all of this is worth it.

a british man who was captured in ukraine by pro—russian separatist forces has reportedly died. paul urey, who was believed to be volunteering in ukraine, was taken prisoner in along with another man in april. let's return to the intense heatwave gripping europe. it's so hot in some areas, that it's threatening human health. here in the uk, downing street has declared a national emergency — as it predicts temperatures could hit an unprecedented 40 degrees in parts of england next week. let's speak to bob ward, the policy and communications director of the grantham institute, part of part of london's imperial college and they focus on climate change and the environment. thank change and the environment. you very much for be us thank you very much for being with us on bbc news, you have said this should be treated not as a natural disaster about very much as an unnatural one. in what way do you think that we change our response? we have to recognise that these heatwave periods are becoming more intense and more frequent because of

climate change. ultimately, we want to stop this trend, then we're going to stop this trend, then we're going to need to reach net zero emissions of greenhouse gases. also, many people are going to die, and we're going to see hundreds of people die unfortunately over the few days. they're going to die in overheated homes, because we have buildings that are poorly designed, that suck up that are poorly designed, that suck up the heat and trap it, and turn houses into death traps, particularly for those that have underlying health conditions and are particularly vulnerable to the heat. that is why i have described it as an a natural disaster, they have preventable deaths that are caused by our own actions. fin preventable deaths that are caused by our own actions.— preventable deaths that are caused by our own actions. on the one hand ou can by our own actions. on the one hand you can increase _ by our own actions. on the one hand you can increase the _ by our own actions. on the one hand you can increase the number- by our own actions. on the one hand you can increase the number of- by our own actions. on the one hand you can increase the number of hot i you can increase the number of hot air that gets trapped in buildings, but on the other hand we have some the worst insulated buildings in the world, can you do both? you the worst insulated buildings in the world, can you do both?— the worst insulated buildings in the world, can you do both? you can, you have to do — world, can you do both? you can, you have to do both _ world, can you do both? you can, you have to do both together. _ world, can you do both? you can, you have to do both together. if _ world, can you do both? you can, you have to do both together. if you i have to do both together. if you

increase the energy efficiency of homes and you don't improve the insulation, you can make overheating worse. it should be a national scandal or a national disgrace that we have homes that are terrible at keeping heat in in the winter and terrible at keeping it out in the summer. it is really a source of embarrassment, and it steadily, it's killing people. haifa embarrassment, and it steadily, it's killing people-— killing people. how deadly do you think these _ killing people. how deadly do you think these two _ killing people. how deadly do you think these two days _ killing people. how deadly do you think these two days could - killing people. how deadly do you think these two days could be. i killing people. how deadly do you| think these two days could be. we know that all the nhs has said that it is under stress at the moment and what should not be its busiest time of the year, because a combination of the year, because a combination of covid and some of the shortages that they dealing with in terms of daft, long—term issues which the government has been seeking to address, but obviously if it is addressed it will be several years down the line, as it take some time to train people. the impact of covid with you believing the health service, the government is right in saying that a lot of this has to

start at home, we have to mitigate things with our own behaviour to stop the consequences are something thatis stop the consequences are something that is already happening? you stop the consequences are something that is already happening?— that is already happening? you write that is already happening? you write that it is a national _ that is already happening? you write that it is a national emergency i that is already happening? you write that it is a national emergency -- i that it is a national emergency —— it is right that it is a national emergency. last summerwe it is right that it is a national emergency. last summer we had deaths because of the heat, we use about one half thousand two and a half thousand people every summer because of this, and where it is going to be unprecedentedly hot over the next week, we're going to lose a lot of people, and it would be a real danger to healthy people, because when you get dentures in the high 30s to low 40s, people who go outside in the middle of the day, and overexert themselves, they are going to be at risk of illness and death. we have to be very clear, this is not about going to the beach and eating ice cream, this is an extreme weather event that poses real risk to life. you have to take

this very seriously.— real risk to life. you have to take this very seriously. thank you very much forjoining _ this very seriously. thank you very much forjoining us. _ this very seriously. thank you very much forjoining us. let _ this very seriously. thank you very much forjoining us. let me i this very seriously. thank you very much forjoining us. let me bringl much forjoining us. let me bring you some breaking news, as we know presidentjoe biden is in saudi arabia, but we havejust had presidentjoe biden is in saudi arabia, but we have just had a reaction to his visit and the fact that he first bumped the crown prince of saudi arabia, the effective ruler of the country, who is blamed for the killing of a saudi journalist who was murdered. the journals's fiance has told the news agency that mr biden has the blood of saudi victims on his hands. the message was aimed directly at the us president. it was a controversial visit as we are hearing earlier today, because he had previously

promised to make saudi arabia a pariah state after the killings. they did not meet one—on—one, which was regarded as a concession to the nervousness in washington by riyadh,. a microphone and a podium has been set up, complete with the seal of the president of the united states, where he is expected to address journalists in the next few minutes. we are going to keep an eye on that, and perhaps it will be interesting to see if he has asked for his reaction, and what he has to say to the family of the journalist. the visitors causing a great deal of disquiet on what the democrats like to call the progressive wing of the democrat. let's turn to tonight's live debate in the conservative leadership contest.

the five remaining candidates are taking part. next week tory mps will whittle the five candidates down to the final two. then it'll be up to conservative party members to decide the new leader and prime minister. we have a star—studded cast, almost as many on this list as there are candidates. with me is former conservative mp ben howlett, the political columnist for i paper, kate maltby, conservative commentator jo—anne nadler, who did write the biography of william hague, so she knows that it does not always work out.

and and the former house of commons clerk, eliot wilson. let me start with you ben, as someone who has been in the house of commons, what do you make of decision facing the conservative mps? �* , . ., decision facing the conservative mps? h . ., ., , ., mps? it's quite nice not to be in a leadership — mps? it's quite nice not to be in a leadership campaign _ mps? it's quite nice not to be in a leadership campaign for— mps? it's quite nice not to be in a leadership campaign for the i mps? it's quite nice not to be in a leadership campaign for the first | leadership campaign for the first time in a long time. the task ahead of them is quite a complex one, and watching the debate early on, it has been quite sedate, but as soon as we become online it started to get a bit spicy. the obvious point here is that the candidates are going to be looking for are picking off various other mp groups who are supporting other mp groups who are supporting other candidates, in order to get them to that final push to the two next week. i would imagine that penny mordaunt is going to be looking at taking some of the full support from rishi sunak�*s campaign, and liz truss is going to be looking at solidifying her own support base,

and winning over some of the more right—wing mps that were backing kemi badenoch. it is all still to play for, and frankly, watching the debate right now, i do not know who is going to come out as the favourite. time will tell. just one more quick _ favourite. time will tell. just one more quick question _ favourite. time will tell. just one more quick question before i i favourite. time will tell. just one | more quick question before i bring in yourfellow observers more quick question before i bring in your fellow observers on this, honest, candid, question now, to you, as a conservative former mp, from the fact that people are said they know how they vote so far, how confident will candidates be that the people who have backed them publicly and actually voted for them in previous rounds will stick with them? especially after this run of televised debates, will it make a difference to thinking? aha, televised debates, will it make a difference to thinking?— difference to thinking? a cynical resenter difference to thinking? a cynical presenter about _ difference to thinking? a cynical presenter about mp's _ difference to thinking? a cynical- presenter about mp's truthfulness... sceptical, not cynical! mp5 presenter about mp's truthfulness... sceptical, not cynical!— sceptical, not cynical! mps who

declare for _ sceptical, not cynical! mps who declare for a — sceptical, not cynical! mps who declare for a particular - sceptical, not cynical! mps who declare for a particular mp i sceptical, not cynical! mps who declare for a particular mp do l declare for a particular mp do switch, and you can't necessarily know what is going on in the back of someone's mind. when gavin williamson was running the whip referred theresa may, did you really know what was going on in david davis's mind? i mean there will be a lot of interesting moves of the weekend, particularly after this i think a lot of candidates may end up finding that their backing may fall away from one part of the right to another. ., ., ., , , ., ., another. you have observed more than one of these — another. you have observed more than one of these over _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the years, _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the years, you're i one of these over the years, you're a former biographer, what do you make of this current line—up, is there a buzz, is there any excitement, the party has been in office for 12 years? i excitement, the party has been in office for 12 years?— office for 12 years? i think each leadership _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has its - office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has its own i office for 12 years? i think each i leadership race has its own dramas if you _ leadership race has its own dramas if you like. — leadership race has its own dramas if you like, and its own stories. it will always — if you like, and its own stories. it will always create a buzz amongst

mps, _ will always create a buzz amongst mps, because to a certain extent, the conservative party has found itself _ the conservative party has found itself to — the conservative party has found itself to be almost addicted to these — itself to be almost addicted to these processes. it does have to be very careful — these processes. it does have to be very careful that, in indulging itself— very careful that, in indulging itself in — very careful that, in indulging itself in this kind of process that itself in this kind of process that it doesn't— itself in this kind of process that it doesn't end up further removing itself— it doesn't end up further removing itself from — it doesn't end up further removing itself from the general public. with reference _ itself from the general public. with reference to tonight's campaign debate — reference to tonight's campaign debate i— reference to tonight's campaign debate, i think the candidates who addressed the audience was directly, and to— addressed the audience was directly, and to talk— addressed the audience was directly, and to talk about the general public, — and to talk about the general public, and to talk in terms of wanting — public, and to talk in terms of wanting to serve the public, rather than indulging in this warfare, they were the _ than indulging in this warfare, they were the ones who came across rather better~ _ were the ones who came across rather better. ~ ., ., , ., were the ones who came across rather better. ~ ., ., i. , were the ones who came across rather better. ~ ., ., , ., , ., better. who would you put in that cate . o ? better. who would you put in that category? l _ better. who would you put in that category? i think— better. who would you put in that category? i think in _ better. who would you put in that category? i think in terms - better. who would you put in that category? i think in terms of- category? i think in terms of tonight's _ category? i think in terms of tonight's performance i category? i think in terms of tonight's performance in i category? i think in terms of- tonight's performance in particular, tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch are the ones _ tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch are the ones who, necessarily in a sense, _ the ones who, necessarily in a sense, because they are the least well— known, sense, because they are the least well—known, they sense, because they are the least well— known, they find sense, because they are the least well—known, they find it easier to relate _ well—known, they find it easier to

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the response of the room. what is interesting for me, about them, i the response of the room. what isj interesting for me, about them, is that this _ interesting for me, about them, is that this is — interesting for me, about them, is that this is a — interesting for me, about them, is that this is a moment _ interesting for me, about them, is that this is a moment where - interesting for me, about them, is that this is a moment where bothl that this is a moment where both kemi _ that this is a moment where both kemi badenoch _ that this is a moment where both kemi badenoch and _ that this is a moment where both kemi badenoch and tom - that this is a moment where both i kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat that this is a moment where both - kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising _ kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising their— kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising their profile _ kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising their profile with _ kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising their profile with the _ kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat are raising their profile with the wider i raising their profile with the wider cabinet _ raising their profile with the wider cabinet -- — raising their profile with the wider cabinet. —— audience, _ raising their profile with the wider cabinet. —— audience, britain- raising their profile with the wider cabinet. —— audience, britain as i raising their profile with the wider cabinet. —— audience, britain as a| cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole. _ cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole. who— cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole. who may— cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole, who may not _ cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole, who may not be _ cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole, who may not be able i cabinet. —— audience, britain as a whole, who may not be able to i cabinet. —— audience, britain as a i whole, who may not be able to vote for them _ whole, who may not be able to vote for them in — whole, who may not be able to vote for them in the selection. _ whole, who may not be able to vote for them in the selection. those i for them in the selection. those people — for them in the selection. those people are — for them in the selection. those people are positioning - 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questions about whether they can push their way to the front of- questions about whether they can push their way to the front of a i push their way to the front of a very— push their way to the front of a very crowded _ push their way to the front of a very crowded queue _ push their way to the front of a very crowded queue this - push their way to the front of a very crowded queue this late . push their way to the front of ai very crowded queue this late in push their way to the front of a - very crowded queue this late in the leadership— very crowded queue this late in the leadership race. _ very crowded queue this late in the leadership race. that— very crowded queue this late in the leadership race.— leadership race. that is the difficulty. _ leadership race. that is the difficulty. i _ leadership race. that is the difficulty, i suppose, - leadership race. that is the l difficulty, i suppose, because leadership race. that is the - difficulty, i suppose, because it difficulty, isuppose, because it can't ever be an open contest at a time like this, because they've been in government this many years, the

candidates have different degrees of public knowledge, but certainly have a well known amongst their colleagues, and also there are so many national and international issues pressing on a government that they don't have the blank page that perhaps opposition candidates would have in a leadership contest? i have in a leadership contest? i think that is right. obviously, four of the five candidates have served in ministerial office in one capacity or another, whereas tom tugendhat hasn't, but has been a very high—profile chair of the foreign affairs committee. i think it has been interesting, because for me, the two winners from this evening, they have been tom tugendhat and penny mordaunt, who have mounted to what you might call insurgent contents. —— contests. i think liz truss has not performed as well as she might have, she is,

cross a bit stilted and unsure of herself, which i think is a problem for her as a current secretary and cabinet memberfor ten for her as a current secretary and cabinet member for ten years, that is very interesting. tom tugendhat is very interesting. tom tugendhat is a long way behind in the voting, it must be said, and he would be regarded as the obvious next drop out from the line—up, but he has performed quite well. it is also quite interesting that a lot of them took a little while to warm up, i think. it began very politely and quite sedately, and i think it took ten or 15, maybe 20 minutes for some of them to get their teeth into the question and answers. you mentioned liz truss, question and answers. you mentioned liz truss. she — question and answers. you mentioned liz truss, she was _ question and answers. you mentioned liz truss, she was questioned - question and answers. you mentioned liz truss, she was questioned in - question and answers. you mentioned liz truss, she was questioned in the i liz truss, she was questioned in the course of the debate about which taxes she would cut if she were to become prime minister.— become prime minister. firstly, i understand _ become prime minister. firstly, i understand how _ become prime minister. firstly, i understand how much _ become prime minister. firstly, i understand how much people - become prime minister. firstly, i understand how much people are struggling at the moment. that's why i think it's wrong to put up

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