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is trying to appeal to brexit supporters in the conservative party. the sunday times splashes on fresh claims about penny mordaunt�*s views on trans rights. the sunday mirror reports that borisjohnson was absent from today's cobra meeting discussing the heatwave. let's start with the sunday times. we have this emergency warning in place, the first ever, this red alert. ., .,, place, the first ever, this red alert. . , place, the first ever, this red alert. ., , ., alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course. it's— alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, it's over _ alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, it's over the _ alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, it's over the top _ alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, it's over the top of _ alert. chaos looms, the headline. of course, it's over the top of a - course, it's over the top of a photograph of somebody diving into a very inviting —looking blue sea. i think this is the problem, we long for the sunshine, we have many miserable days of grey skies and cloud and rain and cold and all the
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rest of it. despite all the warnings i don't know whether people are taking this as seriously as they ought to. clearly organisations like network rail who are saying don't travel unless you have two on monday and tuesday, we have heard warnings throughout the day on bbc news channel, on the radio, and everywhere else, and from health experts explaining that this is as dangerous and we should take this red dollar as seriously as we do when we get a red alert about high winds or bad weather. i think it is going to be hard for people but we've never had this temperature in this country. it is dangerous. we don't have the infrastructure to deal with it. you know, rhodes could melt, tarmac can melt, train tracks can buckle. it's going to be pretty difficult but it's only for a couple of days, but people do need to take it seriously. of days, but people do need to take it seriously-— it seriously. that's a good point, when we see _ it seriously. that's a good point,
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when we see the _ it seriously. that's a good point, when we see the sunshine - it seriously. that's a good point, when we see the sunshine and i it seriously. that's a good point, i when we see the sunshine and wish you good weather is coming, barbecues, paddling pools, yes put on some sunscreen, but this is more serious, we have schools warning about kids staying off, they are saying that kids should go to school to try to protect them. if saying that kids should go to school to try to protect them.— to try to protect them. if you look at the temperature _ to try to protect them. if you look at the temperature of _ to try to protect them. if you look at the temperature of the - to try to protect them. if you look at the temperature of the human | at the temperature of the human body, _ at the temperature of the human body, it— at the temperature of the human body, it is— at the temperature of the human body, it is about 37 degrees orjust a bit below — body, it is about 37 degrees orjust a bit below. we are talking about 40 degrees _ a bit below. we are talking about 40 degrees all— a bit below. we are talking about 40 degrees all around us. that's different _ degrees all around us. that's different. that isn'tjust like being — different. that isn'tjust like being on_ different. that isn'tjust like being on holiday, it's not like you sit on _ being on holiday, it's not like you sit on the — being on holiday, it's not like you sit on the beach and it's nice because _ sit on the beach and it's nice because you have a breeze. that's really— because you have a breeze. that's really nasty — because you have a breeze. that's really nasty baking heat and i do think_ really nasty baking heat and i do think there is a sort of mixed message _ think there is a sort of mixed message somehow that we are not really— message somehow that we are not really used to this, not really working — really used to this, not really working out what it should be. i
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think_ working out what it should be. i think schools should give parents the option and i think that's the better— the option and i think that's the better way to proceed. by all means, have kids _ better way to proceed. by all means, have kids in — better way to proceed. by all means, have kids in and supervise them but schools _ have kids in and supervise them but schools aren't always cool, some of them _ schools aren't always cool, some of them you _ schools aren't always cool, some of them you can't open the windows, and i them you can't open the windows, and i know— them you can't open the windows, and i know this _ them you can't open the windows, and i know this is _ them you can't open the windows, and i know this is a particular issue for people _ i know this is a particular issue for people with disability, such as myself _ for people with disability, such as myself. there are people with disability who for example suffer from _ disability who for example suffer from seizures and they can be triggered _ from seizures and they can be triggered by hot weather. it is debatable whether it is better for those _ debatable whether it is better for those kids to actually be at home where _ those kids to actually be at home where they can be. my those kids to actually be at home where they can be.— those kids to actually be at home where they can be. my kids' primary school have — where they can be. my kids' primary school have given _ where they can be. my kids' primary school have given us _ where they can be. my kids' primary school have given us the _ where they can be. my kids' primary school have given us the option - where they can be. my kids' primaryi school have given us the option that we can pick them up if we want to. i think the fear is that kids who are older and might be on supervised may not look after themselves as well as they could if they are unsupervised. the warnings we are all getting as we may only have a couple of days at
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the moment but we have to prepare for more of this in the future. absolutely and you can see what is happening across quite a lot of the mediterranean, really fierce fires. you only have to look out at parched gardens, never mind is fields and woods, and realise that one discarded match, cigarette end or a barbecue and there would be an absolute fire we have never seen in this country. maybe people might start taking climate change a bit more seriously. but it is this problem, we won the sunshine but not at this level. we problem, we won the sunshine but not at this level-— at this level. we have all had len at this level. we have all had plenty of _ at this level. we have all had plenty of warnings _ at this level. we have all had plenty of warnings so - at this level. we have all had plenty of warnings so most i at this level. we have all had | plenty of warnings so most of at this level. we have all had . plenty of warnings so most of us at this level. we have all had - plenty of warnings so most of us are hopefully prepared for what is coming in the next few days. let's look at the sunday telegraph with a picture of liz truss one of the contenders for tory party leader and probable prime minister she wins. what do you make of this headline
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and the interview she has given saying she will put an end to stalinist housing targets? slightly bizarre. stalinist housing targets? slightly bizarre- she _ stalinist housing targets? slightly bizarre. she has— stalinist housing targets? slightly bizarre. she has been _ stalinist housing targets? slightly bizarre. she has been in - stalinist housing targets? slightly - bizarre. she has been in government, a conservative government how long? ten or— a conservative government how long? ten or 12 _ a conservative government how long? ten or12 years? a conservative government how long? ten or 12 years? the longest serving cabinet _ ten or 12 years? the longest serving cabinet minister in the government, and she _ cabinet minister in the government, and she is— cabinet minister in the government, and she is saying it is behaving in and she is saying it is behaving in a stalinist— and she is saying it is behaving in a stalinist manner, or implying that _ a stalinist manner, or implying that well— a stalinist manner, or implying that. well what has she been doing all that— that. well what has she been doing all that time? has she not been in cabinet _ all that time? has she not been in cabinet saying they have to get rid of this— cabinet saying they have to get rid of this stalinist stuff? there is debate — of this stalinist stuff? there is debate -- _ of this stalinist stuff? there is debate —— is there a debate over this and — debate —— is there a debate over this and if— debate —— is there a debate over this and if not why not? it is a strange — this and if not why not? it is a strange way for a potential prime minister— strange way for a potential prime minister to say the government of which _ minister to say the government of which i _ minister to say the government of which i was — minister to say the government of which i was part for the last ten years— which i was part for the last ten years was— which i was part for the last ten years was behaving in a stalinist manner — years was behaving in a stalinist manner. and the other thing is we are talking — manner. and the other thing is we are talking about the housing targets — are talking about the housing targets year. if you have work to house _ targets year. if you have work to house prices in the way they have
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been _ house prices in the way they have been going, it is being fuelled by demand — been going, it is being fuelled by demand. we don't have enough housing in this— demand. we don't have enough housing in this country and we need to build more _ in this country and we need to build more and _ in this country and we need to build more and i— in this country and we need to build more and i think that a point tom tugendhat — more and i think that a point tom tugendhat made in the telegraph, although— tugendhat made in the telegraph, although he is not on the front page — although he is not on the front page i— although he is not on the front page. i don't know what it is like being _ page. idon't know what it is like being in— page. i don't know what it is like being in your early 30s or late 20s, ithink— being in your early 30s or late 20s, i think the — being in your early 30s or late 20s, i think the average age to buy a house _ i think the average age to buy a house has— i think the average age to buy a house has extended to about 38 last time i_ house has extended to about 38 last time i saw— house has extended to about 38 last time i saw the figures. it must be dreadful — time i saw the figures. it must be dreadful. it'sjust because there is a shortage of supply. if liz truss says _ a shortage of supply. if liz truss says we — a shortage of supply. if liz truss says we are _ a shortage of supply. if liz truss says we are going to stop building homes _ says we are going to stop building homes or— says we are going to stop building homes or targets for building homes, what is _ homes or targets for building homes, what is she _ homes or targets for building homes, what is she saying to the voters? | what is she saying to the voters? i find what is she saying to the voters? find this what is she saying to the voters? i find this whole thing, and i know we are going to talk about rishi sunak in a minute, it feels like we are in groundhog day, is that we are having the same debates about europe and brexit as we had six years ago, and
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as james says, these people, particularly liz truss, have been in government for a long time so why are they coming up with this idea of are they coming up with this idea of a clean slate? yes, we need more housing, affordable housing, not more and more estates with four and five bedroom executive homes that have got at least two cars. we have to be sensible about building housing and rethink city centres now that the bottom has fallen out of the retail market and more and more people are working if not totally from home then not going into offices. we have to make sure new housing developments are absolutely, to go back to the topic we were just on, that they are energy efficient, properly insulated, they have electric charging points for cars, not sapping the desperately needed water supply. not sapping the desperately needed watersupply. it'sjust not sapping the desperately needed water supply. it's just empty politics. more houses, she is going
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to lift the fracking ban apparently. this is putting quite a large gap of blue water between her and michael gove, the recently sacked levelling up gove, the recently sacked levelling up secretary, who distanced himself from the government's target of 300,000 homes. buti from the government's target of 300,000 homes. but i can't help noticing that that bow tie on her shirt, does it remind you of anybody?— shirt, does it remind you of an bod ?�* ., ,, anybody? are you talking about maruaret anybody? are you talking about margaret thatcher _ anybody? are you talking about margaret thatcher maybe? - anybody? are you talking about margaret thatcher maybe? i . anybody? are you talking about. margaret thatcher maybe? i am, anybody? are you talking about - margaret thatcher maybe? i am, just margaret thatcher maybe? i am, 'ust a little bit, yeah. fl margaret thatcher maybe? i am, 'ust a little bit, yeah. a i margaret thatcher maybe? i am, 'ust a little bit, yeah. a throw * margaret thatcher maybe? i am, 'ust a little bit, yeah. a throw backh a little bit, yeah. a throw back some 25 years. _ a little bit, yeah. a throw back some 25 years. that's - a little bit, yeah. a throw back some 25 years. that's what. a little bit, yeah. a throw back some 25 years. that's what it | a little bit, yeah. a throw back- some 25 years. that's what it feels like, going — some 25 years. that's what it feels like. going into _ some 25 years. that's what it feels like, going into a _ some 25 years. that's what it feels like, going into a throwback - some 25 years. that's what it feels like, going into a throwback of - some 25 years. that's what it feels like, going into a throwback of all. like, going into a throwback of all these things they are coming out with. , . , , these things they are coming out with. , ., , , a, ., with. they are bringing up margaret thatcher. richey _ with. they are bringing up margaret thatcher. richey snack _ with. they are bringing up margaret thatcher. richey snack interviewed | thatcher. richey snack interviewed by the telegraph vowing to ditch you was holding britain back. ==
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by the telegraph vowing to ditch you was holding britain back.— was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. _ was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he _ was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he has - was holding britain back. -- rishi sunak interviewed. he has been i sunak interviewed. he has been chancellor and had responsibility for the _ chancellor and had responsibility for the city of london during that time _ for the city of london during that time all— for the city of london during that time. all the while, we are clear of brexit— time. all the while, we are clear of brexit now. — time. all the while, we are clear of brexit now, it is supposed to be done, _ brexit now, it is supposed to be done so — brexit now, it is supposed to be done, so are you telling me all the time _ done, so are you telling me all the time you _ done, so are you telling me all the time you were in the treasury you couldn't— time you were in the treasury you couldn't see — time you were in the treasury you couldn't see these and couldn't get it done _ couldn't see these and couldn't get it done but— couldn't see these and couldn't get it done but now all of a sudden in 100 days — it done but now all of a sudden in 100 days i — it done but now all of a sudden in 100 days i am going to do this? what were you _ 100 days i am going to do this? what were you doing the rest of the time? i were you doing the rest of the time? i know— were you doing the rest of the time? i know there — were you doing the rest of the time? i know there was the pandemic in the occupied _ i know there was the pandemic in the occupied quite a bit of time and you had a _ occupied quite a bit of time and you had a lot— occupied quite a bit of time and you had a lot to — occupied quite a bit of time and you had a lot to do, but you drop to the restrictions— had a lot to do, but you drop to the restrictions last year and have had every— restrictions last year and have had every chance to go in there and say we need _ every chance to go in there and say we need to— every chance to go in there and say we need to do this, this and this to make _ we need to do this, this and this to make the _ we need to do this, this and this to make the city of london, put it on fire again — make the city of london, put it on fire again and get it moving or whatever— fire again and get it moving or whatever you want to see your base. so why— whatever you want to see your base. so why only — whatever you want to see your base. so why only now? it's slightly bizarre — so why only now? it's slightly bizarre i_ so why only now? it's slightly bizarre. i don't know these people take conservative party members for a stupid, _ take conservative party members for a stupid, because it seems that way. can a _
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a stupid, because it seems that way. can a tory— a stupid, because it seems that way. can a tory party member not ask that question? _ can a tory party member not ask that question? what were you doing all this time _ question? what were you doing all this time if— question? what were you doing all this time if you are only going to do it— this time if you are only going to do it now? — this time if you are only going to do it now? it seems an obvious question — do it now? it seems an obvious question at_ do it now? it seems an obvious question-— do it now? it seems an obvious cuestion. ~ , ., , question. a couple more tv debates in which those _ question. a couple more tv debates in which those questions _ question. a couple more tv debates in which those questions can - question. a couple more tv debates in which those questions can be - in which those questions can be asked. as far as doing this, with the be able to do in any kind of timeframe that would be quick? it takes a long time to get this kind of statute on the books. yes. of statute on the books. yes, exactl . of statute on the books. yes, exactly- lt — of statute on the books. yes, exactly- it is _ of statute on the books. yes, exactly. it is what _ of statute on the books. yes, exactly. it is what i _ of statute on the books. yes, exactly. it is what i said, - of statute on the books. yes, exactly. it is what i said, it'sl of statute on the books. yes, l exactly. it is what i said, it's an empty political promise. don't forget we do have jacob rees—mogg, the ministerfor forget we do have jacob rees—mogg, the minister for something to do with tearing up red tape, he clearly hadn't got any ideas about the red tape, because a few weeks ago he was asking readers of the sun to come up with ideas, then we had the bonkers idea to go back to imperial weights and measures. what is writ large across the sunday papers is that the candidates are trying to appeal to
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what i would think is quite a small minority of conservative members. they seem to be talking to a much older group and i think as james has pointed out, what are newer, younger is, perhaps the so—called red wall conservative members going to think about this? are theyjust going back to the battles we have fought and discussed on many occasions over the years? and why haven't they achieved these things in the 12 years they have been in government? sunday exress have been in government? sunday express also _ have been in government? sunday express also looking _ have been in government? sunday express also looking at _ have been in government? sunday express also looking at rishi - express also looking at rishi sunak�*s promised to scrap eu red tape. let's look at penny mordaunt, who is doing really well in the polls. the sunday times looks at her gender claims undermined by leaked
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papers. she gender claims undermined by leaked --aers. , , , gender claims undermined by leaked --aers. ,, , , , , papers. she is interesting because she is the darling _ papers. she is interesting because she is the darling of _ papers. she is interesting because she is the darling of the _ she is the darling of the grassroots. i noticed a london assembly— grassroots. i noticed a london assembly member tweeted that the grassroots favourite needs to get through _ grassroots favourite needs to get through to the final two. she is also _ through to the final two. she is also interestingly seen as the more woke _ also interestingly seen as the more woke candidate if there is such a thing _ woke candidate if there is such a thing among the s5. and what she has said about _ thing among the s5. and what she has said about gender self identification, which is how they do in scotland, whereby it is very much easier— in scotland, whereby it is very much easier to— in scotland, whereby it is very much easier to declare a change of gender, _ easier to declare a change of gender, and is looking at what penny mordaunt— gender, and is looking at what penny mordaunt has said and what she is saying _ mordaunt has said and what she is saying now— mordaunt has said and what she is saying now as she tries to back peddle — saying now as she tries to back peddle a — saying now as she tries to back peddle a bit from what she said earlier, — peddle a bit from what she said earlier, because of its low parts of the conservative party members membership aren't all that keen on _ membership aren't all that keen on it— membership aren't all that keen on it is— membership aren't all that keen on it is a _ membership aren't all that keen on... it is a bit ofan membership aren't all that keen on... it is a bit of an empty word, woke, _ on... it is a bit of an empty word, woke but— on... it is a bit of an empty word, woke, but let's use it for argument sake _ woke, but let's use it for argument sake i_ woke, but let's use it for argument sake ithink— woke, but let's use it for argument sake. i think that is what this is
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zeroing — sake. i think that is what this is zeroing in— sake. i think that is what this is zeroing in on. this debate is toxic, it's very— zeroing in on. this debate is toxic, it's very passionate and unpleasant. this is— it's very passionate and unpleasant. this is possibly where penny mordaunt could trip up. she was the bookies' _ mordaunt could trip up. she was the bookies' favourite until the debate which _ bookies' favourite until the debate which has — bookies' favourite until the debate which has brought rishi sunak level with her _ which has brought rishi sunak level with her if— which has brought rishi sunak level with her. if you are the favour you are there — with her. if you are the favour you are there to — with her. if you are the favour you are there to get shot at. i think this is— are there to get shot at. i think this is the — are there to get shot at. i think this is the first big shot she will have _ this is the first big shot she will have to — this is the first big shot she will have to deal with. you this is the first big shot she will have to deal with.— this is the first big shot she will have to deal with. you wonder if this is a shot _ have to deal with. you wonder if this is a shot across _ have to deal with. you wonder if this is a shot across her- have to deal with. you wonder if this is a shot across her bow. i have to deal with. you wonder if. this is a shot across her bow. how much of an issue with this belief are thousands of tory voters making are thousands of tory voters making a decision on the next leader of their party? i a decision on the next leader of their party?— a decision on the next leader of their party? i think we have seen over the their party? i think we have seen overthe last _ their party? i think we have seen over the last couple _ their party? i think we have seen over the last couple of _ their party? i think we have seen over the last couple of years - their party? i think we have seenj over the last couple of years that certain factions within the conservative party have whipped up the so—called cancel culture, anti—woke, it puts me in mind of going back a few years when that rather sneering commentators would
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talk about harriet harper and paris and chester. it seems to be so puerile and stupid. it is a very sensitive issue and one which can cause great upset and great concern, but it needs to be handled and debated properly, not in a way where it is about you are either woke or not. the conservative party have a chance after the toxicity of boris johnson to actually decide what they are and what they stand for. but if they stand for an attack on, and i agree with james that woke is a dreadful overused word, but we all know what we mean, if that is what they stand for and that is the only battle, frankly i would rather they spoke about what they are going to do about climate change particularly since we are looking at it on our
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doorsteps with a heatwave. the whole point about the so—called leaked papers from wayne penny mordaunt was the equalities minister and there was a discussion about removing or de—medicalisation of some of the criteria which you have to currently undergo in order to have their identity. it is a discussion, it never happened, but it was a very tetchy exchange on the tv debate last night between penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch. tbs, last night between penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch.— last night between penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch. a quick look at the mirror front _ and kemi badenoch. a quick look at the mirror front page. _ and kemi badenoch. a quick look at the mirror front page. boris - and kemi badenoch. a quick look at the mirror front page. boris misses| the mirror front page. boris misses the mirror front page. boris misses the second cobra crisis meeting but will party today. matter he wasn't there? it will party today. matter he wasn't there? ., , , , ,, there? it does because he is still there? it does because he is still the prime _ there? it does because he is still the prime minister. _ there? it does because he is still the prime minister. you - there? it does because he is still the prime minister. you may - there? it does because he is still| the prime minister. you may only there? it does because he is still - the prime minister. you may only be a caretaker— the prime minister. you may only be a caretaker but he is still the prime — a caretaker but he is still the prime minister. we are facing something of a crisis because of
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