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some of that heat in east into some of that heat in east anglia and the south—east by sunday but we want the rainfall now. the good news is that this weekend and atlantica good news is that this weekend and atla ntica flow will sweep good news is that this weekend and atlantica flow will sweep in off the atlantica flow will sweep in off the atlantic and bring in fresh conditions with outbreaks of rain to some western areas but not everybody will get the rain. here is saturday, 8am, will get the rain. here is saturday, sam, 17 in london, so a warm start, 15 in belfast, and we will see the humidity rising over the next few days with the knights becoming quite close. tomorrow morning, turning cloudy across western areas. outbreaks of rain. we aren't going to get an awful lot of rain but it will be quite a damp start in northern ireland and in western scotland. these are the temperatures in the afternoon, 25, 26 in the south—east and east anglia. brighter weather in the afternoon and 20 for northern ireland before more rain sweep into northern ireland and south—western scotland. the rain misses eastern areas. by sunday,
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with this sweeping in, we are actually going to draw in some of that warmth from the continent. from france, that heat will clear east anglia and the south—east. many of us will have these fresher condition swirling around with showers brought in by the south—westerly winds but dry conditions in the south—east and east anglia and temporarily up to 30 degrees. come monday, those temperatures will drop as we draw in northerly winds. back to you. thanks, tomasz. and that is bbc news at ten from all of us on the team — there's more analysis of the days main stories on newsnight with christian fraser which isjust getting underway on bbc two, but the news also continues here on bbc one as now it's time tojoin our colleagues across the nations and regions for the news where you are from the ten team it's goodnight.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the daily mirror columnist, susie boniface, and ali miraj, who's a columnist at the article. i was about to say that as it is in. i was about to say that as it is in. i don't know why that went into my head. welcome to you. lovely to see you both. let's bring you up to date with what is on the front pages tomorrow. we've got a list of front pages, the daily mail headline. "wish you weren't here" — as friday's lengthy queues stretch for miles towards the port of dover caused major delays for one of the busiest holiday weekends. the mirror covers the blame game that's erupted from the gridlock. the port of dover said they'd been �*let down�* by french authorities. but france looks towards
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an inicident in the channel tunnel. the ft describes the dover delays as an angloe—french row over post—brexit border controls. the telegraph quotes the foreign secretary telling france to fix the travel chaos. the express leads on a poll which says conservative leadership hopeful liz truss could beat the labour leader sir keir starmer in a general election. vi says liz truss tax costs could mean interest rates according to the economic group quoting professor patric men there. so, let's begin. susie, kicked us off tonight with the front of the times. it's not the most cheerful headline. rishi sunak declares national emergency. yes. declares national emergency. yes, very interesting. _ declares national emergency. yes, very interesting. so _ declares national emergency. ya: very interesting. so they've had a sit down interview with rishi sunak in which he is sort of setting out
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his stall, if you like, for the tory membership that he and liz truss are going to be going out to appeal to in the next few weeks. and he is talking about how britain needs to be put on a crisis putting two dl with inflation and nhs backlogs and all the rest of it. i would just like to know what footing was that government that he was part of for the last three years ban on all this time? is that not a crisis putting? because i'm pretty certain that there was at some point. which government was at that stoked inflation by suggesting everyone should go out and become an hgb driver and earn 50 grand a year and saw nothing wrong whatsoever and massive salary increases for hgb drivers, but to have a big problem doing it for anybody else. it also
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says on the inside of the interview, further into the paper, he says that from day one of being in office, i'm going to put us on a crisis putting. i'm sarri, rishi sunak and i have checked the dates, and it want to be day when a being in office, it would be day 1640, mate. we've been at it for a while. i be day 1640, mate. we've been at it for a while-— for a while. i think he is... i think we can _ for a while. i think he is... i think we can safely - for a while. i think he is... i think we can safely say - for a while. i think he is... i l think we can safely say susie for a while. i think he is... i. think we can safely say susie is for a while. i think he is... i - think we can safely say susie is not a fan, _ think we can safely say susie is not a fan. but — think we can safely say susie is not a fan. but i_ think we can safely say susie is not a fan. but---_ a fan, but... i am a big fan of rishi sunak can _ a fan, but... i am a big fan of rishi sunak can actually - a fan, but... i am a big fan of rishi sunak can actually stop | a fan, but... i am a big fan of. rishi sunak can actually stop at a fan, but... i am a big fan of- rishi sunak can actually stop at cy, say that again, susie. i am a big fan of rishi sunak, actually, because he has come out and said that he would support the nuclear test veterans that i write about for the mirror. so i am a big fan of him. i have been waiting for him to do the same. him. i have been waiting for him to do the same-— him. i have been waiting for him to do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on — do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on a _ do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on a step _ do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on a step though _ do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on a step though land - do the same. there is the challenge, now carry on a step though land glad j now carry on a step though land glad to hear susie is a fan. this is a serious situation. to make the country is in a crisis right now. inflation heading towards 9.4%, it is at 9.4% from having to double digits. we have 400 billion borrowing overhand from covid, and
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rising _ borrowing overhand from covid, and rising rates — borrowing overhand from covid, and rising rates. you can see the ecb is waking up — rising rates. you can see the ecb is waking up and is rightly increasing rates _ waking up and is rightly increasing rates it_ waking up and is rightly increasing rates. it looks like the bank of engiand — rates. it looks like the bank of england will have to do some work aggressively as well. we have got a real distinct offering now between the two _ real distinct offering now between the two final candidates in this runoff — the two final candidates in this runoff. on the one hand you've got liz truss _ runoff. on the one hand you've got liz truss who is portraying herself as a thatcherite by saying that she wants _ as a thatcherite by saying that she wants to _ as a thatcherite by saying that she wants to do tax cuts, she wants to reverse _ wants to do tax cuts, she wants to reverse the — wants to do tax cuts, she wants to reverse the increase in national insurance. _ reverse the increase in national insurance, wants to abolish the increase — insurance, wants to abolish the increase in— insurance, wants to abolish the increase in corporation tax from 19 to 25%~ _ increase in corporation tax from 19 to 25%~ also — increase in corporation tax from 19 to 25%. also wants to catch green levees _ to 25%. also wants to catch green levees. rishi sunak on the other hand _ levees. rishi sunak on the other hand is— levees. rishi sunak on the other hand is also portraying himself as a bachelor, _ hand is also portraying himself as a bachelor, and saying he wants to balance — bachelor, and saying he wants to balance the books and on the cut taxes _ balance the books and on the cut taxes when inflation is under controi _ taxes when inflation is under control. obviously tray members are going _ control. obviously tray members are going to _ control. obviously tray members are going to make that decision. for me, based _ going to make that decision. for me, based on _ going to make that decision. for me, based on balance from what i'm seeing — based on balance from what i'm seeing at — based on balance from what i'm seeing at the moment, rishi sunak seems _ seeing at the moment, rishi sunak seems to— seeing at the moment, rishi sunak seems to be the sensible one who is being _ seems to be the sensible one who is being more — seems to be the sensible one who is being more pragmatic kjaer. we have now heard _ being more pragmatic kjaer. we have now heard from patric, supporting liz truss — now heard from patric, supporting
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liz truss. and saying that if interest _ liz truss. and saying that if interest rates go up to 7%, it would be no bad _ interest rates go up to 7%, it would be no bad thing, to put it in context— be no bad thing, to put it in context in— be no bad thing, to put it in context in 2007, they were a 5.75%, but that _ context in 2007, they were a 5.75%, but that would really hurt a lot of people, and that is the real issue. you need — people, and that is the real issue. you need big tax cuts. it's going to be inflationary in a very difficult time _ be inflationary in a very difficult time for the economy and the bank of engiand _ time for the economy and the bank of engiand is— time for the economy and the bank of england is going to have to raise rates _ england is going to have to raise rates even — england is going to have to raise rates even more aggressively than it is planning _ rates even more aggressively than it is planning to. is rates even more aggressively than it is planning to-_ is planning to. is 50 years since tony barber _ is planning to. is 50 years since tony barber tried _ is planning to. is 50 years since tony barber tried that - is planning to. is 50 years since tony barber tried that and - is planning to. is 50 years since tony barber tried that and it. is planning to. is 50 years since| tony barber tried that and it led is planning to. is 50 years since i tony barber tried that and it led to what is known as the barbara bowman. you know, i am what is known as the barbara bowman. you know, iam not an what is known as the barbara bowman. you know, i am not an economist, and i'm sure a lot of people say, hang on, this is different, this was different than. but has there been a result of that of a certain nervousness about going for big tax cuts when inflation is rampant in the economy? is there a counter argument? is there a position that you could argue that liz truss could be right, something is needed to do, kind of if you like to kick—start the economy, and certainly her argument is about growth, the biggest it has been since 15 years
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between 1919 and 1934. we have had the weakest in the period just before the pandemic. that was our week is 15 years of growth since then. b. week is 15 years of growth since then. . ., week is 15 years of growth since then. �* ., ., week is 15 years of growth since then. ., ., ., , ., ,, week is 15 years of growth since then. ., ., ., , ., ~',, then. a lot of trades talk about this idea that by _ then. a lot of trades talk about this idea that by reducing - then. a lot of trades talk about j this idea that by reducing taxes then. a lot of trades talk about - this idea that by reducing taxes you stimulate growth and take a bigger tax take _ stimulate growth and take a bigger tax take because you've got more revenue _ tax take because you've got more revenue coming in to the exchequer. that's_ revenue coming in to the exchequer. that's the _ revenue coming in to the exchequer. that's the argument that has made, but if— that's the argument that has made, but if you _ that's the argument that has made, but if you look back to when thatcher— but if you look back to when thatcher came in, income tax at that point _ thatcher came in, income tax at that point was _ thatcher came in, income tax at that point was 83%. she redressed it to 60 odd percent, but to went up in her early years because she knew the importance _ her early years because she knew the importance of balancing the books. the question really that liz truss has got _ the question really that liz truss has got to— the question really that liz truss has got to answer, and i don't have a lot of— has got to answer, and i don't have a lot of time — has got to answer, and i don't have a lot of time on a personal level with— a lot of time on a personal level with lil— a lot of time on a personal level with liz truss, but the answer to the question really is where is the money— the question really is where is the money going to come from for public service _ money going to come from for public service is? _ money going to come from for public service is? you've got a 6.5 million nhs backlog at the moment which needs— nhs backlog at the moment which needs funding. that was the whole reason _ needs funding. that was the whole reason for the increase in national insurance. — reason for the increase in national insurance, which by the way was
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going _ insurance, which by the way was going to — insurance, which by the way was going to bring in 12 million and is only going — going to bring in 12 million and is only going to bring in 6 million because — only going to bring in 6 million because that threshold has been increased — because that threshold has been increased to try to ease pain on the cost of— increased to try to ease pain on the cost of living. liz truss is talking about the — cost of living. liz truss is talking about the fact that this is all going — about the fact that this is all going to _ about the fact that this is all going to be funded by extending borrowing over the long—term. so what _ borrowing over the long—term. so what are — borrowing over the long—term. so what are we — borrowing over the long—term. so what are we going to do now? the features— what are we going to do now? the features of— what are we going to do now? the features of our grandchildren and great—grandchildren come i don't think— great—grandchildren come i don't think it _ great—grandchildren come i don't think it is — great—grandchildren come i don't think it is particularly sensible and i— think it is particularly sensible and i think we just have to face the reality that — and i think we just have to face the reality that is before us, unfortunately.— reality that is before us, unfortunately. reality that is before us, unfortunatel ., , ., ., unfortunately. just going back to ou, what unfortunately. just going back to you. what you — unfortunately. just going back to you, what you are _ unfortunately. just going back to you, what you are saying - unfortunately. just going back to you, what you are saying about | unfortunately. just going back to - you, what you are saying about rishi sunak being in office quite a long time as chancellor and obviously government in one way or another has beenin government in one way or another has been in office for 12 years. it is quite interesting in his interview, he says i don't think people feel that we do have control, for example, of the borders. and he also promises an emergency package to parts down nhs waiting lists their tougher targets led by a back log task force. i'm struck by, it seems to echo something that michael gove said we have lost control of quite
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basic functions that government should be able to do, for example, passports, and sang as a result we have been buffeted by events. there is a critique there, isn't there, of the way the current government has operated and they have both been ministers in it. that is the difficulty for them, arguing against their own record to a certain extent. if their own record to a certain extent. , ., ., ., ., extent. if they are going for our vote, i think — extent. if they are going for our vote, i think telling _ extent. if they are going for our vote, i think telling everybody l extent. if they are going for our i vote, i think telling everybody that they have lost control of their own functions would not be much of a winner. but they are not going for our vote. they are going for the vote of the tory membership. but they don't need to convince anybody that they are... that they have been, i should say, good custodians of the nation or its finances. we need to convince the membership that they will be better and more competent than boris jonnson was they will be better and more competent than borisjonnson was and try to pin as much of the plane as possible and him. whether that's going to work or not, i don't know. but the stuff that rishi is saying about how there is going to be tougher targets by the nhs, that has been said for years. and as for years, there is no money in which to
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actually hit those targets. the nhs has already got lots of targets and they are busting through them because they don't have the staff or capacity to deal with that. the reason for that, as you point out, 12 years of tory rule, they have had real terms cuts to nhs budgets the entire time. had they kept up with inflation and demand over that period, we wouldn't have a multi—billion pound in the middle of the nhs. we've been in a better position to deal with covid. he wouldn't have been buffeted in quite the way they claim to have been. he also says in this article is that, you know, for example, he is made the nhs fund its own pay raises. he also says in this article that he wants to continue getting taxpayers cash to private hospitals to clear the nhs backlog. in the very next article, it quotes rishi sunak saying, "allowing people to pay for
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their own health care privately is privatisation by the back door and it is wrong. i wont allow it." and yet he is prepared to fund and support those private hospitals with taxpayer cash in order to clear up a backlog, and it's not clearing the backlog, and it's not clearing the backlog, we have been doing this throughout covid, and what's happened is the private health care firms have made a lovely prophet and the backlogs haven't been moved very much. if if i'm allowed to a comment briefly about the economy, we'll just point out that in 1989 on black friday, interest rates went up to 15%. 1992 on black wednesday, it was 7% and liz truss's financial economic adviser insisting on another 7% and i would be needed and is necessary and there is an economic maker argument there for saying if you increase interest rates affect brings down spending, and therefore dampens inflation. that may well break in the long term, but a micro impact on people is that if you've borrowed £200,000 than just one extra payment on your
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mortgage would equate to about £36,000 extra during the lifetime of that mortgage, just 1%, and we are talking about a massive, massive jump. may well be that interest rates need to go up. to go up massively, very, very quickly would be extraordinary to a very large number of ordinary people who aren't thinking about macro economics. it's a micro economics that matter most. and the daily express, which has done a survey, reporting survey which is from a poll conducted between 15th and 17thjuly which is from a poll conducted between 15th and 17th july that which is from a poll conducted between 15th and 17thjuly that it says and suggests that if liz truss is elected as the conservative leader and becomes prime minister in september and there were a general election, she could beat labour under kier starmer.— election, she could beat labour under kier starmer. well, there are olls all under kier starmer. well, there are polls all over _ under kier starmer. well, there are polls all over the _ under kier starmer. well, there are polls all over the place. _ under kier starmer. well, there are polls all over the place. this - under kier starmer. well, there are polls all over the place. this is - polls all over the place. this is certainly one that the express are putting _ certainly one that the express are putting forward because they are backing — putting forward because they are backing liz truss, and that is fair
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enough — backing liz truss, and that is fair enough at — backing liz truss, and that is fair enough. at the polls are all over the place — enough. at the polls are all over the place and there was another pull out the other day that said that in the constituencies that torres need to retain _ the constituencies that torres need to retain at — the constituencies that torres need to retain at the next election in 76% _ to retain at the next election in 76% of— to retain at the next election in 76% of them, rishi sunak would be the favoured candidates to retain those _ the favoured candidates to retain those seats. so i don't think we have _ those seats. so i don't think we have to — those seats. so i don't think we have to take these pills with a pinch — have to take these pills with a pinch of— have to take these pills with a pinch of salt, the only one that matters — pinch of salt, the only one that matters is _ pinch of salt, the only one that matters is that of tory party members that have yet to make up their mind — members that have yet to make up their mind. i don't think there will be a _ their mind. i don't think there will be a long — their mind. i don't think there will be a long time for them to do that because _ be a long time for them to do that because the ballot paper is going to arrive on— because the ballot paper is going to arrive on the map in a week and people — arrive on the map in a week and people may be going away on holiday, there is going to be a short time period _ there is going to be a short time period in— there is going to be a short time period in which to make an impression. at the moment, if you believe _ impression. at the moment, if you believe the — impression. at the moment, if you believe the paul's, liz truss is ahead, — believe the paul's, liz truss is ahead, but— believe the paul's, liz truss is ahead, but i think it is all to play for~ but— ahead, but i think it is all to play for. but both of them need to display is— for. but both of them need to display is range. a range of ideas across— display is range. a range of ideas across the — display is range. a range of ideas across the board. i haven't heard anything — across the board. i haven't heard anything from these people about any quality. _ anything from these people about any quality, perhaps they don't think that matters to the tory membership. it that matters to the tory membership. it certainly _ that matters to the tory membership. it certainly matters to me, or leveling — it certainly matters to me, or leveling up, which seems to have been _ leveling up, which seems to have been kicked into the long grass.
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it's interesting you mention leveling up, because which of the following issues are most important for the next five to address, managing the rising cost of living, the next highest is spending on the nhs, which only got 15%. leveling up, which after all it's one of the most important aspects of boris jonnson's pitch, 3%, so if that is true and this is to be fair, as far as i can tell, a survey of a poll, i'm not actually sure, i'm just having a hasty luck, whether it is just people in the conservative... previous tory voters. but 3% of them think that that is the most important issue. in a sense, the candidates may be pitching their argument correctly. thea;r candidates may be pitching their argument correctly.— candidates may be pitching their argument correctly. they may be, but ou also argument correctly. they may be, but you also have — argument correctly. they may be, but you also have to _ argument correctly. they may be, but you also have to remember— argument correctly. they may be, but you also have to remember the - argument correctly. they may be, but you also have to remember the red i you also have to remember the red welcome and the fact is they want to see some _ welcome and the fact is they want to see some results. they went to see three _ see some results. they went to see three elements, rarely, infrastructure investment, investment in skills and productivity in an environment where
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real wages— productivity in an environment where real wages in

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