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this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. the two candidates for the conservative leadership — rishi sunak and liz truss — will set out more of their plans should they become prime minister. the former chancellor will explain shortly how he would tackle the nhs backlog — and says he will put the uk on a "crisis footing" on his first day in downing street. we'll bring you that live. long queues are forming for a second successive day at the british port of dover, after huge delays led to a dispute between french and british officials. the global price of wheat falls after russia and ukraine sign a landmark deal to resume grain exports. the un says the agreement mustn't fail. there is a moral obligation of all
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those involved in this process to make it a success. hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. we are waiting for the former chancellor rishi sunak to make a speech shortly about his plans to be prime minister. meanwhile, let us look at the dire situation in kent. the authorities in kent, southern england, have declared a major incident for a second day, as long trafficjams build up at the port of dover, on the first weekend of the school summer holiday. the port blamed delays —
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of up to seven hours yesterday — on a lack of french border officials. p&0 ferries has tweeted that those booked to travel today should leave three to four hours to clear security checks due to heavy traffic at border control. there are also currently 3,000 lorries parked on the m20. we are going live to grantham where you can see the former chancellor is greeting his supporters, all wanting to hear more about his plan should he be prime minister. this leadership _ he be prime minister. this leadership election - he be prime minister. this leadership election will. he be prime minister. ti 3 leadership election will touch on many issues and i will travel the length and breadth of their country to hear our members and tell them about my vision and how we need to change. but there is a core to this campaign that stands as a part, that represents the best of us in the most testing of times. and that is
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moral courage. it may seem trite to say it but that is only because it is so rare in politics, the moral courage to tell the truth even if it hurts me. the marrow courage to raise issues even if they are uncomfortable. —— the moral courage. and the moral courage to rise above the smears and hatred no matter how baseless or unfair. we can be better and we will be better. this courage comes from my family, my mum who ran the local chemist in southampton. and my dad, a local nhs gp. this country gave them the opportunity for a better life and they took it. they had three children, me, my brother and my sister. and they gave everything so that we could have
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more than they had. it is the most conservative of conservative stories and one that everyone here would recognise. my mum and dad are not here today but my wife and children are and whatever happens at the selection, i have never been prouder to say to them i love you all. applause i have spent a few years in westminster now and a couple of years at the top of government and i can tell you whilst it is full of decent and hard—working people, this system is broken. no amount of undelivered promises are going to change that. since the start of this campaign, itold change that. since the start of this campaign, i told you all some top things to hear but i have told them
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because i am conservative. conservatives do not believe in burdening future generations tomorrow because of weakness today. that is not who we are and that is not true i am. applause no, we believe in other things. conservatives believe in each other because it is through each other, not the state or even the market that we achieve the things that make life worth living. conservatives believe in honesty because the foundation of all freedom is truth. and above all, conservatives believe in duty and fidelity. it is the core of our party and our people. applause duty and fidelity to one another, to ourfamilies, those
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duty and fidelity to one another, to our families, those we love, to our neighbours and friends, to our world and to our country. these are conservative values and they are my values. as your prime minister, i will turn these values into action for you. will turn these values into action foryou. because will turn these values into action for you. because the problems we face are so much more fundamental than any candidate in this election has told you. enough is enough. i am here to tell you that unless we change, unless we are confident enough to grip this moment and make it work for our country, the challenges we face in the coming months alone will push us to the limit. this must not happen. the stakes are too high and the cost to our people to great. if we are to deliver on the promise of brexit, then we will need someone who
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actually understands brexit, believes in brexit, voted for brexit. applause and if our challenges are great, then our answers must be as well. we have national emergencies that must be dealt with. and we have to tell the truth. we have to tell the truth about our nhs and the pressure it is under. i have taken a lot of political payment to make sure the nhs has what it needs and i am the candidate in this contest who can say unequivocally the nhs will be safe in my hands. we face the worst nhs winter crisis in decades, tackling the backlog is the biggest public service emergency. we need a fundamentally different approach. we will take the best of our covert
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response and apply those lessons to clearing the massive backlogs in the nhs. we have to tell the truth about immigration because our system is still not working, it is simply unacceptable to have the current situation were criminal gangs are still trafficking illegal immigrants to this country, exploiting loopholes in the legal system and yes, our compassion. we must never lose that compassion but we must be tougher and we must be uncompromising. as someone who is a product of immigration and the warm and welcoming embrace of this country, i know it can work but only legally. we have to tell the truth on criminal sentencing. 0ver legally. we have to tell the truth on criminal sentencing. over half of all crimes are committed byjust 9%
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of criminals. so if you want to deal with the crime then any answer that does not target that group of people who are committing most of it is not worth the paper it is written on. you have to tell the truth about our schools, where the great educational reforms of michael gove have come under threat so we must now again doubleday notjust on teacher quality and technology by genuine reforms of our curriculum. we have to tell the truth about national security. yes, defence spending needs to increase and i will never short—change our armed forces and my track record proves that with the largest increases in defence spending since the cold war. simply saying 3% is not a plan however, it is an arbitrary target. rather we need to provide a military with the resources it needs to do what it
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needs to do to keep us safe. applause we have to tell the truth about the cost of living and that there is no answer to this problem other than to grip inflation and bring it down. rising inflation... applause rising inflation is the enemy that makes everyone cooler and puts at risk your home and your savings and we have to tell the truth about tax. —— pooler. iwill deliver we have to tell the truth about tax. —— pooler. i will deliver more tax cuts. i have already made progress as chancellor but i will not put money back in your pockets knowing that rising inflation will only whip it straight back out. so we will
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tell the truth, no matter the cost because there can be no real change without but real changes there, i swear it. we can be better but it will only come with radicalism. we can grow our economy, creating more and betterjobs with higher wages and betterjobs with higher wages and real progression if we actually get businesses investing so i am going to reform are tax systems and make this the best country in the world to invest. is notjust about big business, this is about small businesses as well. this is about our high street, they cannot grow if they cannot invest and i will fix that. we can revolutionise our education system but only if we accept the status quo is not only unacceptable but immoral. i do not care where you were born or who your parents are, your birthright should
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be a world—class education. applause. because today's education system is tomorrow's economy. and we can cut more taxes but only if we defeat the enemy of inflation and that can only happen if we are honest about the ravages it causes. we must see the danger in front of us and act, not pretend like it isn't happening or more dreadful still, make the situation worse, putting people's homes and savings at risk. i will deliver a lower tax economy. i will deliver a lower tax economy. i will deliver tax cuts but tax because you can believe in. i will make that happen. we must be radical. we must change because if we do not, we cannot rebuild our economy. we must
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be radical, we must change because if we don't, then brexit will not be safe. and we must be radical, we must change if we are to beat kier starmer and the labour party at the next election. applause because all the promises in the world mean nothing if the country makes up to labour government in 2024. all the evidence is there, i am the only person who can beat labour. i am the only candidate who can protect the union and i am the only candidate who can keep brexit safe. applause today, my campaign with party
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members begins. my campaign will represent the very best of conservative values. i will give everything to earn every note. but be in no doubt, i am the underdog, the forces that be want this to be a coronation for the other candidate but i think members want a choice. and they are prepared to listen. and in the coming days they will see that i don'tjust offer change, i don'tjust offer great, i am offering hope. we can be better. thank you. applause. thank you. applause thank you.
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thank you very much, i think we have time for some questions. i will take questions from audience well. let us start with the media. who have we got? have we got a microphone? do you want to see your name? hi, tony. applause well, there is that i am delighted to be here with my localfriends, gareth. the broader point about your question is yes, i do believe that
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what i am proposing economically is what i am proposing economically is what i am proposing economically is what i would describe as common laterals. the number one ecmo make challenge the country faces is inflation. and not risk making the problem worse. if we do not get a grip, it will cost families more in the long run. i believe that's what margaret thatcher would have done, deal with the challenge of inflation, get it out of the system and then get on to delivering the tax cuts we all to see. applause. channel for news, you talked about honesty, _ channel for news, you talked about honesty, telling the truth about taxes. — honesty, telling the truth about taxes, are using liz truss is misleading party members or is she lyin- misleading party members or is she lying when — misleading party members or is she lying when she talks about cutting taxes? _ lying when she talks about cutting taxes? i _ lying when she talks about cutting taxes? ., , , lying when she talks about cutting taxes? . , , . ., ., , lying when she talks about cutting taxes? . , , . ., taxes? i have been very clear as you heard that this _ taxes? i have been very clear as you heard that this is _ taxes? i have been very clear as you heard that this is the _ taxes? i have been very clear as you heard that this is the most - taxes? i have been very clear as you heard that this is the most pressing | heard that this is the most pressing challenge we face. i do believe it is the wrong approach by the government at this moment to be
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borrowing an extra tens of billions of pounds at a time when inflation is almost in double figures and interest rates are already on the rise. the risk of doing that is that you make the situation worse. everyone who has a mortgage here and watching having to pay hundreds if not thousands of pounds more because of the impact it would have on interest rates. beyond that i also don't believe it is moral. i am a conservative because i was brought up conservative because i was brought up to believe you earn what you need for your spending. that's how i was raised in my household. i did my mums books in her local chemist. 0f mums books in her local chemist. of course that is what you need to do when you run a small business and thatis when you run a small business and that is a deeply conservative value and if we are not the party of sound money, i do not see what the point of the conservative party is. you will make up your own views about that. i have been very clear that not only do i think it is the wrong
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thing for the economy but i also believe it is immoral because there is nothing noble or good about racking up bills on the country's credit card we then pass on to our children and grandchildren. applause _ . i have a gentleman here. i hope applause . i have a entleman here. i ho-e so . i have a gentleman here. i hope so too. ifi . i have a gentleman here. i hope so toe if i have — . i have a gentleman here. i hope so too. if i have time _ . i have a gentleman here. i hope so too. if i have time to _ . i have a gentleman here. i hope so too. if i have time to nip _ . i have a gentleman here. i hope so too. if i have time to nip over - too. if i have time to nip over there afterwards i will try and do it but it is a great pleasure to be here. she is rightly someone we all look up to in this party for the change she brought to this country and as i said, economically, she was prepared to do difficult things for the long—term benefit of our country and that is what i am prepared to do and that is what i am prepared to do and that is what i believe leadership is all about. applause. the sunday times.
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applause. the sunda times. ~ ., ., the sunday times. who are you referrin: the sunday times. who are you referring to? — the sunday times. who are you referring to? i _ the sunday times. who are you referring to? i was _ the sunday times. who are you referring to? i was talking - referring to? i was talking generically. 0bviously referring to? i was talking generically. obviously i start this part of the contest in the underdog position. thank you, sir. iwas delighted in the parliamentary stay dry came top of the ballot. if you look back a month so, i was written out of this contest but thanks to the hard work and support of colleagues like gareth, i came top of the ballot a few weeks later, drawing on all the breadth and talent of our parliamentary party. that demonstrates i bring people together and like with our parliamentary party, i can confidently do that the country as well. so i take this message of change today, this message of radicalism, we need to grip the emergency is facing the country and i am the person to do that, i am confident our members will see that
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and respond to it and they will recognise i am the person who will beat kier starmer when the next election comes. applause. who have we got? applause. who have we not? �* , ., applause. who have we not? a ., ., , who have we got? as you no doubt appreciate. — who have we got? as you no doubt appreciate, regarding _ who have we got? as you no doubt appreciate, regarding this - who have we got? as you no doubt appreciate, regarding this trade - appreciate, regarding this trade agreement with australia, will you -ive agreement with australia, will you give an— agreement with australia, will you give an assurance it will be based in parliament when you become prime minister? _ in parliament when you become prime minister? ., ~ , ., ., , ., minister? thank you, that is a mix like question- _ minister? thank you, that is a mix like question. we _ minister? thank you, that is a mix like question. we are _ minister? thank you, that is a mix like question. we are here - minister? thank you, that is a mix like question. we are here in - like question. we are here in lincolnshire today and tonight i might get to sleep on my own bed in north yorkshire. like here, it is a very agricultural community, a bit more hilly but my neighbour is a
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farmer, my entire community are farmers. farming is something that is incredibly important to me. when ifirst came to is incredibly important to me. when i first came to parliament, i is incredibly important to me. when ifirst came to parliament, i rush to get on the agriculture select committee because i thought supporting my rural community was vital in my role as member of parliament. so i can reassure you i will run the most pro—countryside, pro—farming government ever seen. if i don't, my own constituents will not re—elect me, never mind anyone else. applause. hello, i am a former councillor and also a _ hello, i am a former councillor and also a nurse — hello, i am a former councillor and also a nurse and i work during the pandemic — also a nurse and i work during the pandemic. just for the press, they have _ pandemic. just for the press, they have not— pandemic. just for the press, they have not told me to say that, to channel — have not told me to say that, to channel for _ have not told me to say that, to channel for especially, thank you for your— channel for especially, thank you for your hard work during the
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pandemic. we never liked anything and the _ pandemic. we never liked anything and the procurement you did in the global— and the procurement you did in the global crisis was astounding. just thank— global crisis was astounding. just thank you — global crisis was astounding. just thank you so much for all your hard work— thank you so much for all your hard work and _ thank you so much for all your hard work and also prime minister boris johnson _ work and also prime minister boris johnson because what people do not see in— johnson because what people do not see in public service is the work you put— see in public service is the work you put in— see in public service is the work you put in and you do not do it for the ntoney— you put in and you do not do it for the money because you are not that well paid _ the money because you are not that well paid. you do it because you care _ well paid. you do it because you care about — well paid. you do it because you care about your communities. ijust wanted _ care about your communities. ijust wanted to— care about your communities. ijust wanted to thank you and all this negativity about the pandemic, and the criticism —— i have no criticism, _ the criticism —— i have no criticism, i_ the criticism —— i have no criticism, i felt we were in safe hands — criticism, i felt we were in safe hands due _ criticism, i felt we were in safe hands due to the government so thank you. applause. juliet, that is very kind of you to
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say. thank you for that. can i pay enormous tribute you enjoy your colleagues for what you did. we saw the best of this country over the last two years. think back to the first—place conference i gave when i was introduced as your new chancellor and i talked at the beginning about the small acts of kindness that would be done by us and to us by millions of people and that's what we saw over the past couple of years but it started with the heroic efforts of you and your colleagues in the health service. health care is so important to me. my health care is so important to me. my dad was an gp, my mum was a local pharmacist. i delivered medicine to the patients. i saw the impact on the patients. i saw the impact on the community that good health care and people can provide and maximise predation for wanting to be a member of parliament and it is my parent's story that inspired me to want to be prime minister. sojust story that inspired me to want to be prime minister. so just a thank you to you and your colleagues for
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everything you did. applause. we have questions galore. here in the front. indistinct. that is an absolutely excellent country if attachment question. china poses a threat to our security. particularly to our economic security but thereby our national security. economic security but thereby our nationalsecurity. it economic security but thereby our national security. it is an authoritarian regime with values different to ours and as prime minister i would be robust in standing up to the values we believe in and protecting us to the threat china poses to our security. there was a speech the head of fbi and mi5
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gave recently about the threat china poses, i thought an excellent speech and that is the approach i would use as prime minister. the threats have changed. if you find companies trying to infiltrate our universities and civic society, buying up the best technology we are creating, there was a new 2ist—century threats and we must guard against them. as your prime minister, have every confidence that thatis minister, have every confidence that that is exactly what i will do. hgppy that is exactly what i will do. happy time for another? gone. phil stehen happy time for another? gone. phil stephen scott millan middle england. a lot of— stephen scott millan middle england. a lot of your mp5 were put in place lty a lot of your mp5 were put in place by boris, _ a lot of your mp5 were put in place by boris, not that they are necessarily doing a good campaign but because of him. on that note,
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who is— but because of him. on that note, who is trying to distance himself... rishi _ who is trying to distance himself... rishi sunak— who is trying to distance himself... rishi sunak in grantham. we will say goodbye to our viewers on bbc world news but our viewers in the uk will continue to see this. i news but our viewers in the uk will continue to see this.— continue to see this. i have been very clear _ continue to see this. i have been very clear and — continue to see this. i have been very clear and open _ continue to see this. i have been very clear and open about - continue to see this. i have been very clear and open about my . continue to see this. i have been i very clear and open about my views on the prime minister, he is one of the most remarkable people i have met and it was a great privilege to serve in his government for almost 2.5 years and enjoy some extraordinary successes, we should not forget there is no other person who three years ago could have broken the brexit deadlock, got that done. you remember the paralysis our country was facing at the time, he alone was able to breakdown deliver that election victory. because of him we managed to rule out the vaccine, support the country through the pandemic as we heard from juliet and also to stand up for ukraine and others. he deserves enormous credit
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for those and i am not going to rewrite history and say they are not wonderful things. rewrite history and say they are not wonderfulthings. but rewrite history and say they are not wonderful things. but for me, it got to a point when enough is enough and ifell i to to a point when enough is enough and i fell i to leave government. it was not an easy decision or a happy decision but now, at this point we have to look forward. the choice now for all members is who is the best person to lead this country through the challenges we face. you heard from me about those emergencies we face, whether illegal migration, backlogs in the nhs, getting a grip of inflation or rebuilding the economy to cut taxes or keeping brexit safe, i am the person who can best do that and crucially, i am the best do that and crucially, i am the best person that when the time comes can beat keith starmer and deliver a historic fifth election victory for the conservative party. thank you. applause.
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thanks very much. that was the conservative leadership hopeful, one of the final two, liz truss being the other. rishi sunak there. in grantham, in lincolnshire, which is the birthplace of the former prime minister and the late baroness margaret thatcher. he chose to make that speech and take questions from conservative party faithful members because he wants to make it clear he thinks to fix the economy in the uk and to fix the nhs, particularly with regarding the offal backlogs and long waiting list for surgery, we need to return to what he described as common—sense thatcherism, taking the best bits of what he says were her best decisions. also watching that speech was our political correspondent. we heard very much there what we might
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have read in the times newspaper, he wrote an article saying he wants to fix the nhs, some tough decisions, thatcherite policies might have to come back to fix the economy. did we hear anything about how he would deliver that?— deliver that? these were the broadbrush _ deliver that? these were the broadbrush messages - deliver that? these were the broadbrush messages to - deliver that? these were the broadbrush messages to set| deliver that? these were the . broadbrush messages to set out deliver that? these were the - broadbrush messages to set out his overall position rather than drilling down into the detail. there were a few interesting things, repeatedly a knowledge that he is no longer the leading candidate. when the mps were being whittled down to a final to which a man liz truss, he led every round of voting of mps but now the bookies assessment of party membership intention, it seems that liz truss is rather a long way ahead so he repeatedly acknowledged he is the underdog and perhaps this is why he is in grantham. he needs to sell it to the party and he began by
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talking about conservative values, he is the era apparent to the likes of margaret thatcher. he spoke of wanting common—sense thatcherism and use that to explain the dividing line between him and liz truss. she will cancel the rise in national insurance he introduced as chancellor before he resigned. he wants it to place —— to pay for some of the changes to the nhs. liz truss wants to borrow money, cut taxes and put money back into pockets. there is a real dividing line between the two about whether to cut taxes will put money in people's pockets or whether it will mean putting up prices and driving inflation up. so that's the dividing line. talking about the nhs, he wants to talk about the nhs, he wants to talk about cutting waiting list by september 2024. about cutting waiting list by september2024. he about cutting waiting list by september 2024. he once waiting list no longer than a year by september 2020 for. that is not to cut national insurance so he underlined
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