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tv   The Interview  BBC News  July 30, 2022 10:45pm-11:01pm BST

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it's very powerful. that's why we are using it. are you worried about how many ukrainian women have left, though, when it comes to the recovery of the country, when the war is over, that so many women won't be there, potentially? translation: that was one of the topics we discussed i at the summit, the human factor of restoring ukraine. several million of people are currently abroad, and for the most part, it's women and children. we have not just to worry about them leaving, we also worry about them coming back. we have to work now for them to have somewhere to come back to, to have conditions for normal life and development in ukraine after the war is over — a lot of tasks to resolve them
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very quickly, but we have to start resolving them even during the war. normally, for a woman in any conditions, and especially during the wartime, has a great burden on her shoulders. in our case, 38,000 of soldiers' wives, teachers, medics, they have to care about the family, about her own parents, about her children, about the parents of her husband. it's a massive amount of work on the shoulders of our women. and our task, our daily task, is to support them. it's especially important during the war. it's hard for most of us to imagine what it's like to live through a war every day and the sort of mental trauma that goes along with that. and i know it's something that you're concerned about and you raised at the summit as well. what is the best way that
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you think people can cope with the daily stress of war? translation: you know, the whole of ukraine - is currently living in stress. for example, this night and this morning, there was a massive rocket attack on our territory. the rockets were falling in the kyiv region, at the east and the north of the country. we constantly feel it. every ukrainian is living under constant tension, starting from the 24th of february. that tension doesn't subside. that's why we have to learn. each of us has to learn to live with that feeling, to be strong, but that's a long—distance work. unfortunately, we don't need just advice.
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we need active expert help. that's why we're approaching the world health organization for their expertise, and they're already helping us with psychological interventions. we can use the practices, the tools which are already developed and used in the world in order to help ukrainians. at the calculations of the ministry of health care, 15 million ukrainians would need psychological and psychiatric help after the end of the war. we are talking about ptsd. previously, that was used as something where we talk about soldiers, about the military, but currently the situation in ukraine is that 70% of the russian arms are used against the civilian populations —
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against the children, women, older people — and in that case, ptsd is a factor. and the programme of psychological health on a national level is being developed, which will help us to overcome the possible consequences of the war. we're already working on this. as i said, many countries are helping us, including israel and the united states and the world health organization, and we are finding the best practices in order to implement them in ukraine. we have to build such a system so that every ukrainian would be able to receive qualified first aid with regard to their mental health. but ordinary life goes on, and i've heard it described... it's not a work—life balance, it's a war—life balance in ukraine right now. how do you manage that yourself? translation: you know, indeed,
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if we look at the streets of kyiv, i sometimes there is an illusion that all is well, all is normal. the shops are working, people are promenading with children, sitting in cafeteria, drinking coffee. and to some of the people, this seems wrong. we understand that the war is going on and our soldiers are dying at the front line every day. but on the other hand, the country has to survive, the country has to preserve some normality. and even our soldiers are saying to their friends, to those who are waiting for them at home, "go to a cafe, go see "a film, go for a walk with the kids. "enjoy the peace that you can have
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now, because we are dying "here at the war to return the peace to you, to preserve "this faith in life." and that balance is very delicate. and if someone visits kyiv now and would say that that is a completely peaceful, normal city, that unfortunately would be an illusion, as i said, because the morning and night attacks do not let us forget it. but the economy has to work, and we're very grateful to all the entrepreneurs, all the enterprises that are working, making it possible. and the country has to work. it shouldn't stop because that's needed for development. there is no life without development. we have to develop and no—one will stop us from doing that. mrs zelenska, you are very different from your husband, though. you are known to like your privacy and to actually be quite a quiet person too.
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and yet here you are talking to me, talking to other media organisations as well, and some even say that you're an icon now. does all of this make you feel a bit uncomfortable? or do you feel like it's necessary for you to give publicity to what is happening in your country? translation: well, when i hear compliments, i start feeling - the need to speak to the public. i'm very grateful. and indeed, such an interview as we're having now, for me, it's pleasant, but it's important for me. in peaceful time, i'm not used to such excessive attention. but now in ukraine, everyone
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is fighting at their own front, and i am prepared to be more public, in order to reach out to more people and to tell them the information, tell the truth about ukraine. so here, there couldn't be any sentiments. that is work and i have to do that. one of the most high—profile things you've done is the cover shoot for vogue. many people love it, but there are some people who see it as glamorising the war. how do you respond to that criticism? translation: you know, i will repeat myself again | that i'm using every opportunity to speak about ukraine. that was a massive opportunity because millions of people read vogue, tens of millions of people in the world. it's a very popular publication.
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and to be able to speak to them direct, that was my duty. and that was an interesting experience. it was a very short period of time, literally a few hours, doing the interview. that was very important for me. and there will be always someone criticising. there always will be some issues. i believe that it's better to do something and to be criticised than to do nothing. mrs zelenska, i have one final question. do you allow yourself to look into the future to imagine a time after the war? or do you simplyjust have to look at every day and getting through every day? translation: it would be correct to say that the most important - thing now is to hold on, to withstand it.
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but with regard to future planning, this is what we are fighting for. i do not plan any personal future at all at the moment, but i plan my future actions for the ukrainian people. that's why we're introducing all the projects that we've discussed. that's why we dream about restoring, rebuilding ukraine. unfortunately, there will be a lot of things to rebuild and restore. the infrastructure has been destroyed, many schools and hospitals completely destroyed and several million people left. everything has to come back to normal life. now we are on the military rails, but we will restore ukraine. and this is what we are working on now.
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that was the first lady of ukraine, 0lena zelenska, speaking to me from an undisclosed location. hello there. saturday was a warm and humid day for many of us. in places, we got to see some sunshine. in other places, the humidity gave rise to a lot of cloud, mist and murk and some outbreaks of rain, and there's more cloud and rain in the forecast for sunday across some parts of the uk. the sunniest conditions will be up to the north. the earlier satellite picture shows this pipeline of cloud, bringing some outbreaks of rain. we're starting sunday on a pretty soggy note across parts of wales, northern england, the north midlands, eastern england too. very little rain getting down into the south, but quite a cloudy, murky start of the day here. much of the rain will tend to peter out. still a few showers into the afternoon, but a bit more in the way of brightness developing, particularly in north wales and northern england.
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all the while, northern ireland and scotland will have the lion's share of the sunshine. always a bit more cloud for eastern scotland. cool and fresh here — 16 for aberdeen, 18 degrees from belfast. still quite warm down towards the south and the southeast. it's triathlon and para—triathlon day at the commonwealth games. quite a lot of cloud, some spots of drizzle to start. should brighten up later on. and for the women's euro 2022 final at wembley, chance for a shower. i think, on balance, it should be dry, quite warm and muggy for the kick—off. so, yes, we could just see the odd shower drifting across the southeast corner during sunday evening, but overnight, into the early parts of monday, we'll see largely clear skies overhead, light winds and, actually, particularly up toward the north, something quite cool and fresh. 7 to start monday in glasgow. still 17 there in london, so still a bit of warmth clinging on in the south. monday getting off to a fine start in most places, with some spells of sunshine, but we see another area of cloud starting to push in from the west. that'll bring rain into northern ireland through the afternoon,
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perhaps fringing into parts of west wales and the far southwest of england. ahead of that, actually, another relatively warm day. 21 degrees for newcastle, 26 once again in london. as we move out of monday into tuesday, we see this area of low pressure bringing frontal systems and outbreaks of rain, but not much of that rain getting down into the south, where we really do need some. in fact, southern areas through tuesday are likely to be very warm indeed — 27, maybe 28 degrees — with the rain further north and west. it is then set to turn cooler but drier for the end of the week.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. dozens are injured as protesters storm the iraqi parliament for the second time in a week. after deadly flooding in kentucky — many people are still missing. as of ”am this morning we can confirm 25 fatalities across five counties, that number will continue to grow. president biden tests positive for covid— nineteen — for the second time in nine days. widespread disruption to train services throughout the uk as drivers from seven operators walk out over pay. pope francis says health problems are likely to force him to travel
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less frequently and he may even have to retire.

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