clear skies elsewhere and overnight temperatures 11—18. fairly uncomfortable for sleeping once again. lots of sunshine tomorrow, some heavy showers for northern ireland and scotland. they could be thundery with some large hail but still dry in the south—east. up to 36 degrees once again. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... the acclaimed author — sir salman rushdie — suffers serious injuries after being stabbed on stage in the state of new york. his agent says he's on a ventilator and is likely to lose an eye. the environment agency has warned that the drought declared in many parts of england could last into next year. it says that after the driest summer for 50 years, it will take weeks of rain to replenish water sources. and train drivers from nine rail companies are on strike across the uk today. it's the latest walkout in a row about pay and conditions.

some companies — including southeastern and crosscountry — aren't running any services at all. it's been revealed the search warrant for donald trump's florida home was partly based on suspicion of violations of the us espionage act. court documents show that 20 boxes of items were removed — including some documents marked �*top secret�*. now on bbc news, it's time for dateline london with shaun ley. hello, and welcome to the programme, which brings together leading uk

commentators with the foreign correspondents who write, blog, podcast and broadcast from the dateline london. this week, a meeting between borisjohnson and the energy companies about the ticking time bomb which is the capping of energy bills. the cap will rise further in october. the meeting achieved nothing. the british have a government that apparently must wait for action until the conservatives have chosen their leader, the country's next prime minister. there was another meeting which ended without result too, new york's attorney general summoned donald trump to quiz him about his tax affairs. he pleaded the fifth then repeated the words same answer to every question she put to him. the former president, who would be president again, hadn't kept shtum when the fbi had raided his florida home. to discuss those events in the studio with me are eunice goes, a portuguese academic and writer who teaches comparative government. janet daley, born in the united states. a �*60s progressive who by the 19805 was a conservative, now writing a weekly column in the sunday telegraph. and thomas kielinger, who has been a foreign correspondent for german media, including in washington dc during the carter and reagan presidencies. he has written biographies of churchill and of

both queens elizabeth. lovely to have you all in the studio with us today. let me start with you, eunice, on the question of energy. how busy a summer has it been for governments in continental europe in terms of trying to address the energy crisis which is upon us and which will loom ever larger as the winter approaches? well, it has been extremely busy managing not only the expectations of voters but also managing the acrimony between member states because of course when there is a crisis then there is going to be a competition for resources. and we saw that with a little bit of blame gaming, southern europe saying a few things to germany in particular, saying a few things about germany's dependency on russian oil. with the spanish government saying, well, we do not live above our means energy—wise. but eventually there is a kind of an agreement to ration or reduce energy consumption by 15% at least. there is that request.

and then you also have action at the domestic level. and across europe, european governments have been putting in place packages that involve from cuts to vat but like drastic cuts on vat to energy bills, subsidies to help families to face those incredible energy bills. in germany, i think they are increasing by five times from what they were last year. there is also plans to ration the use of energy. in spain for instance there are plans to reduce the temperature at which buildings should be. so kind of a more efficient and clever way of using energy. and i think everyone is praying that the winter will be somewhat mild, so that we don't use overcapacity. there is also the whole issue around ensuring that europe has enough supply. that was a very big concern because 12 member states essentially

were cut out almost in some cases completely of the supply of gas from russia. so now they're getting it from other sources. and i think reserves are at the moment around 70% of what it should be, the normal... trying to build them up before the winter hits? before the winter hits. so we are getting there but the situation is very dire. in france for instance, it has a lot of nuclear energy. nuclear power stations are now closed down, they are in maintenance because, well, they were not sufficiently maintained during the pandemic. and of course drought conditions, heat waves and so on do not help for the maintenance of those energy. so it has been very, very, very busy. even for the italian government, which was simultaneously collapsing as it was trying to work out this deal. yes. because of course the situation is very, very dire for italian voters. the dilemma that we have in britain for many families, eating or heating.

it is something that many european households are facing too. and italy, the situation is particularly dire because it has been 20 years of economic stagnation. we have 10 million italian... we have 10% of the italian population living below the poverty line, so the situation has been extremely hard. so the energy crisis was a kind of a trigger for the collapse of the draghi government because they were seeing that not enough support was been given to families. and of course these are populist, right—wing parties that of course want to create instability, to create, to trigger a new election. and now they are poised to win the forthcoming italian election. janet, there was a headline in one newspaper in the uk on friday, pm turns up for meeting. yes! give us a bit of context for that! well, i can't honestly see what the point was of that meeting because boris is now a lame duck

prime minister. he admits that he has no political and moral authority, so why did he have the meeting? i mean, one hopes that in the back channels, you know, there are plans in whitehall, there are plans going on. but the plans that can be offered are pretty makeshift. i mean, nobody actually has an answer to this problem in the short and medium term. and, as you say, it is bringing into light all the political problems that have been nascent in all these european countries. italy doesn't have a government at all for all intents and purposes. macron is absolutely paralysed between the far right and far left. yes. the german government is in a rather sticky coalition and all of these problems have suddenly come into sharp focus when there is a crisis. and it is an odd sort of crisis because governments themselves can be blamed for not making the preparation that was necessary, for not seeing this possibility coming. unlike a war, for which your own government can't be blamed. sure. so they are going to carry the can and the risk is that populist parties will benefit from this.

it is easy in a sense to create a kind of rhetorical blame for the present government, insinuation that the interests of ordinary people, especially the poorer elements of ordinary people, have not been considered. you can make a really sort of impressive populist platform and we could end up with some really dire consequences. i mean, this could be, you know, the analogy with weimar germany. i mean, when there is a crisis and people can't eat or they can't heat their homes, they are going to perhaps do nasty things, led by people who are quite unscrupulous enough to exploit that situation. thomas, that fear always is at the back of mines in germany isn't it because of 20th—century history. yes. in terms of how germany is approaching this at the moment, they are at least having a debate about it. f are at least having a debate about it. j ., are at least having a debate about it. j . ., are at least having a debate about it. they're having a debate about it and i doubt — it. they're having a debate about it and i doubt that _ it. they're having a debate about it and i doubt that this _ it. they're having a debate about it and i doubt that this dire _ it. they're having a debate about it and i doubt that this dire picture i and i doubt that this dire picture thatjanet—

and i doubt that this dire picture that janet is_ and i doubt that this dire picture that janet is painting _ and i doubt that this dire picture that janet is painting might - that janet is painting might actually— that janet is painting might actually come _ that janet is painting might actually come to _ that janet is painting might actually come to pass. - that janet is painting might - actually come to pass. because the parties _ actually come to pass. because the parties on — actually come to pass. because the parties on the — actually come to pass. because the parties on the right _ actually come to pass. because the parties on the right that _ actually come to pass. because the parties on the right that you - parties on the right that you describe, _ parties on the right that you describe, they— parties on the right that you describe, they know - parties on the right that you describe, they know fully. parties on the right that you i describe, they know fully well parties on the right that you - describe, they know fully well that the crisis _ describe, they know fully well that the crisis before _ describe, they know fully well that the crisis before it _ describe, they know fully well that the crisis before it is _ describe, they know fully well that the crisis before it is almost - the crisis before it is almost insoluble _ the crisis before it is almost insoluble. in— the crisis before it is almost insoluble. in fact, _ the crisis before it is almost insoluble. in fact, i- the crisis before it is almost insoluble. in fact, i am - the crisis before it is almost - insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what _ insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what the _ insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what the queen _ insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what the queen is _ insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what the queen is supposed - insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of what the queen is supposed to - insoluble. in fact, lam reminded of| what the queen is supposed to have said to _ what the queen is supposed to have said to boris — what the queen is supposed to have said to boris johnson _ what the queen is supposed to have said to boris johnson when - what the queen is supposed to have said to boris johnson when he - said to borisjohnson when he came to ask_ said to borisjohnson when he came to ask for— said to borisjohnson when he came to ask for her — said to borisjohnson when he came to ask for her permission _ said to borisjohnson when he came to ask for her permission to be - to ask for her permission to be prime — to ask for her permission to be prime minister. _ to ask for her permission to be prime minister. she _ to ask for her permission to be prime minister. she is - to ask for her permission to be i prime minister. she is supposed to ask for her permission to be - prime minister. she is supposed to have said. — prime minister. she is supposed to have said. and _ prime minister. she is supposed to have said, and he _ prime minister. she is supposed to have said, and he himself- prime minister. she is supposed tol have said, and he himself circulated this remark — have said, and he himself circulated this remark i— have said, and he himself circulated this remark. i wonder how anyone l this remark. i wonder how anyone can want to— this remark. i wonder how anyone can want to be by minister these days. - want to be by minister these days. and that _ want to be by minister these days. and that was — want to be by minister these days. and that was only— want to be by minister these days. and that was only 2019. _ want to be by minister these days. and that was only 2019. this - want to be by minister these days. and that was only 2019. this is - want to be by minister these days. and that was only 2019. this is far| and that was only 2019. this is far more _ and that was only 2019. this is far more difficult. _ and that was only 2019. this is far more difficult. and _ and that was only 2019. this is far more difficult. and the _ and that was only 2019. this is far. more difficult. and the accumulation of these _ more difficult. and the accumulation of these problems _ more difficult. and the accumulation of these problems have _ more difficult. and the accumulation of these problems have led - more difficult. and the accumulation of these problems have led to- more difficult. and the accumulation of these problems have led to some| of these problems have led to some very welcome — of these problems have led to some very welcome rethinking _ of these problems have led to some very welcome rethinking about - of these problems have led to some i very welcome rethinking about policy in the _ very welcome rethinking about policy ih the energy— very welcome rethinking about policy in the energy sector _ very welcome rethinking about policy in the energy sector because, - very welcome rethinking about policy in the energy sector because, i- in the energy sector because, i mean, _ in the energy sector because, i mean. the _ in the energy sector because, i mean. the sins— in the energy sector because, i mean, the sins of— in the energy sector because, i mean, the sins of the - in the energy sector because, i mean, the sins of the merkell in the energy sector because, i. mean, the sins of the merkel era in the energy sector because, i- mean, the sins of the merkel era are coming _ mean, the sins of the merkel era are coming home — mean, the sins of the merkel era are coming home to _ mean, the sins of the merkel era are coming home to roost. _ mean, the sins of the merkel era are coming home to roost. our- mean, the sins of the merkel era are i coming home to roost. our dependency and the _ coming home to roost. our dependency and the aiiies _ coming home to roost. our dependency and the allies are _ coming home to roost. our dependency and the allies are rubbing _ coming home to roost. our dependency and the allies are rubbing it— coming home to roost. our dependency and the allies are rubbing it in. - and the allies are rubbing it in. they— and the allies are rubbing it in. they dont— and the allies are rubbing it in. they don't need _ and the allies are rubbing it in. they don't need to _ and the allies are rubbing it in. they don't need to rub - and the allies are rubbing it in. they don't need to rub in, - and the allies are rubbing it in. they don't need to rub in, we i and the allies are rubbing it in. - they don't need to rub in, we know it fully— they don't need to rub in, we know it fully weiii — they don't need to rub in, we know it fully well! it _ they don't need to rub in, we know it fully well! it has _ they don't need to rub in, we know it fully well! it has led _ they don't need to rub in, we know it fully well! it has led to _ they don't need to rub in, we know it fully well! it has led to some - it fully well! it has led to some astonishing _ it fully well! it has led to some astonishing about _ it fully well! it has led to some astonishing about turns - it fully well! it has led to some astonishing about turns in - 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astonishing about turns in people's thinking. fortunately, germany- astonishing about turns in people's| thinking. fortunately, germany has astonishing about turns in people's . thinking. fortunately, germany has a lane thinking. fortunately, germany has a large gas _ thinking. fortunately, germany has a large gas reserve _ thinking. fortunately, germany has a large gas reserve. we _ thinking. fortunately, germany has a large gas reserve. we have _ thinking. fortunately, germany has a large gas reserve. we have 75- large gas reserve. we have 75 capacity. _ large gas reserve. we have 75 capacity. which— large gas reserve. we have 75 capacity, which is— large gas reserve. we have 75 capacity, which is good. - large gas reserve. we have 75. capacity, which is good. germans large gas reserve. we have 75- capacity, which is good. germans are traditionally— capacity, which is good. germans are traditionally good _ capacity, which is good. germans are traditionally good savers! _ capacity, which is good. germans are traditionally good savers! but - capacity, which is good. germans are traditionally good savers! but that i traditionally good savers! but that will not _ traditionally good savers! but that will not tie — traditionally good savers! but that will not tie them _ traditionally good savers! but that will not tie them over— traditionally good savers! but that will not tie them over the - traditionally good savers! but that will not tie them over the winter. i will not tie them over the winter. as we _ will not tie them over the winter. as we hoping _ will not tie them over the winter. as we hoping also _ will not tie them over the winter. as we hoping also that _ will not tie them over the winter. as we hoping also that the - will not tie them over the winter.i as we hoping also that the winter may not— as we hoping also that the winter may not be — as we hoping also that the winter may not be to _ as we hoping also that the winter may not be to start. _ as we hoping also that the winter may not be to start. it _ as we hoping also that the winter may not be to start. it is - as we hoping also that the winter may not be to start.— may not be to start. it is worth beafina may not be to start. it is worth bearing in _ may not be to start. it is worth bearing in mind _ may not be to start. it is worth bearing in mind that _ may not be to start. it is worth bearing in mind that the i may not be to start. it is worth| bearing in mind that the united states— bearing in mind that the united states is— bearing in mind that the united states is energy self—sufficient and they are _ states is energy self—sufficient and they are still have a problem and that is— they are still have a problem and that is because the price of the commodities gone through the roof. even if— commodities gone through the roof. even if you _ commodities gone through the roof. even if you have all the stores and all the _ even if you have all the stores and all the capacity stored up, you still have _ all the capacity stored up, you still have a problem dealing with the present price of the commodity. yeah. _ the present price of the commodity. yeah, curiously that is aiding the current— yeah, curiously that is aiding the current people _ yeah, curiously that is aiding the current people in _ yeah, curiously that is aiding the current people in power- yeah, curiously that is aiding the current people in power because| current people in power because people _ current people in power because people understand _ current people in power because people understand what - current people in power because people understand what a - current people in power because people understand what a hard i people understand what a hard situatioh — people understand what a hard situation that _ people understand what a hard situation that they _ people understand what a hard situation that they find. - people understand what a hard situation that they find. and i people understand what a hard | situation that they find. and we need _ situation that they find. and we need to— situation that they find. and we need to come _ situation that they find. and we need to come to _ situation that they find. and we need to come to our— situation that they find. and we need to come to our senses i situation that they find. and we need to come to our senses toi situation that they find. and we i need to come to our senses to really aiiow— need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves _ need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves a _ need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves a bit _ need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves a bit of— need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves a bit of patience, i need to come to our senses to really allow ourselves a bit of patience, a i allow ourselves a bit of patience, a bit of. _ allow ourselves a bit of patience, a bit of. you — allow ourselves a bit of patience, a bit of. you know. _ allow ourselves a bit of patience, a bit of, you know, understanding i allow ourselves a bit of patience, a i bit of, you know, understanding that it takes— bit of, you know, understanding that it takes time — bit of, you know, understanding that it takes time. for— bit of, you know, understanding that it takes time. for the _ bit of, you know, understanding that it takes time. for the new _ bit of, you know, understanding that it takes time. for the new prime i it takes time. for the new prime mihister— it takes time. for the new prime minister in — it takes time. for the new prime minister in britain. _ it takes time. for the new prime minister in britain. in _ it takes time. for the new prime minister in britain.— minister in britain. in europe it would lead _ minister in britain. in europe it would lead to _ minister in britain. in europe it would lead to a _ minister in britain. in europe it would lead to a new _ minister in britain. in europe it would lead to a new reckoning | minister in britain. in europe it i would lead to a new reckoning in terms of economic policies because the subsidising of energy prices,

you know, from price caps to the cutting of vat and so on, this will have an impact. bill cutting of vat and so on, this will have an impact.— have an impact. all the things we waned have an impact. all the things we wagged our— have an impact. all the things we wagged our finger _ have an impact. all the things we wagged our finger wrap _ have an impact. all the things we wagged our finger wrap since i have an impact. all the things we | wagged our finger wrap since latin wagged ourfinger wrap since latin america or in sub—saharan africa, we say government should do this, it is appalling. but say government should do this, it is a- allinu. �* say government should do this, it is anallina. �* ., ., . appalling. but in europe, governance have been subsidising _ appalling. but in europe, governance have been subsidising energy - have been subsidising energy companies and for private consumers. it is essentially unsurmountable. also something must be done about the profit levels of some of these companies. but the profit levels of some of these companies— the profit levels of some of these com anies. �* . , ., ., companies. but we have 'ust had two ears of companies. but we have 'ust had two years of governments i companies. but we have just had two years of governments subsidising i years of governments subsidising everything. in years of governments subsidising eve hina. . years of governments subsidising eve hina. , , years of governments subsidising i everything._ through everything. in this country. through the covid pandemic? _ everything. in this country. through the covid pandemic? yes. - everything. in this country. through the covid pandemic? yes. the i the covid pandemic? yes. the economies— the covid pandemic? yes. the economies of the west were coming —— might— economies of the west were coming —— might put— economies of the west were coming —— might put into induced coma in ligaments are printed the money to create _ ligaments are printed the money to create the — ligaments are printed the money to create the wealth that would have been _ create the wealth that would have been created in the real economy. that itself— been created in the real economy. that itself is a really dangerous situation — that itself is a really dangerous situation and if you're going to add to that _ situation and if you're going to add to that additional subsidising of energy— to that additional subsidising of energy through money printing, because — energy through money printing, because that is the only way you can do it. _ because that is the only way you can do it. it _ because that is the only way you can do it. it is _ because that is the only way you can do it. it is a — because that is the only way you can do it, it is a terrifying prospect because — do it, it is a terrifying prospect because money, the currency are

going _ because money, the currency are going to — because money, the currency are going to become ludicrous. they're going _ going to become ludicrous. they're going to _ going to become ludicrous. they're going to become ludicrous. they're going to become valueless.- going to become ludicrous. they're going to become valueless. you're so riaht in going to become valueless. you're so right in what — going to become valueless. you're so right in what you _ going to become valueless. you're so right in what you say. _ going to become valueless. you're so right in what you say. i _ going to become valueless. you're so right in what you say. i have - going to become valueless. you're so right in what you say. i have a - right in what you say. i have a bigger— right in what you say. i have a bigger fear— right in what you say. i have a bigger fear and _ right in what you say. i have a bigger fear and that _ right in what you say. i have a bigger fear and that is - right in what you say. i have a bigger fear and that is about i right in what you say. i have a i bigger fear and that is about the relationship _ bigger fear and that is about the relationship with— bigger fear and that is about the relationship with russia. - bigger fear and that is about the relationship with russia. peoplei relationship with russia. people begin to — relationship with russia. people begin to understand, _ relationship with russia. people begin to understand, well, i relationship with russia. people begin to understand, well, is. relationship with russia. people begin to understand, well, is iti relationship with russia. peoplel begin to understand, well, is it a good _ begin to understand, well, is it a good idea — begin to understand, well, is it a good idea to _ begin to understand, well, is it a good idea to continually - begin to understand, well, is it a good idea to continually supportl good idea to continually support ukraine — good idea to continually support ukraine in— good idea to continually support ukraine in their— good idea to continually support ukraine in their fight _ good idea to continually support ukraine in their fight with - good idea to continually support l ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother— ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of— ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of all— ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of all as _ ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of all as the _ ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of all as the war- ukraine in their fight with russia? the mother of all as the war in i the mother of all as the war in ukraine — the mother of all as the war in ukraine and _ the mother of all as the war in ukraine and i'm _ the mother of all as the war in ukraine and i'm worried - the mother of all as the war in ukraine and i'm worried about| the mother of all as the war in i ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus — ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus in _ ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus in my— ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus in my country, - ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus in my country, which. ukraine and i'm worried about the consensus in my country, which isi consensus in my country, which is still holding — consensus in my country, which is still holding firm _ consensus in my country, which is still holding firm about... - consensus in my country, which is still holding firm about... about l still holding firm about... about through— still holding firm about... about through the _ still holding firm about... about through the winter? _ still holding firm about... about through the winter? the - still holding firm about... about l through the winter? the sacrifices we have _ through the winter? the sacrifices we have to — through the winter? the sacrifices we have to make. _ through the winter? the sacrifices we have to make. they— through the winter? the sacrifices we have to make. they all- through the winter? the sacrifices we have to make. they all claim l through the winter? the sacrifices i we have to make. they all claim that this is— we have to make. they all claim that this is due _ we have to make. they all claim that this is due to— we have to make. they all claim that this is due to the _ we have to make. they all claim that this is due to the war— we have to make. they all claim that this is due to the war in _ we have to make. they all claim that this is due to the war in ukraine, i this is due to the war in ukraine, peopie _ this is due to the war in ukraine, peopie might _ this is due to the war in ukraine, people might begin— this is due to the war in ukraine, people might begin to _ this is due to the war in ukraine, people might begin to politically| people might begin to politically change — people might begin to politically change their— people might begin to politically change their mind. _ people might begin to politically change their mind.— people might begin to politically change their mind. because russia is in dancer change their mind. because russia is in danger of — change their mind. because russia is in danger of economic _ change their mind. because russia is in danger of economic collapse. if i in danger of economic collapse. if people _ in danger of economic collapse. if people actually do find... any lon . er it people actually do find... any longer it will _ people actually do find... any longer it will collapse and hopefully _ longer it will collapse and hopefully. it— longer it will collapse and hopefully-— longer it will collapse and hoefull . ~ , , hopefully. if western countries find alternative sources _ hopefully. if western countries find alternative sources of _ hopefully. if western countries find alternative sources of energy i hopefully. if western countries find alternative sources of energy than l alternative sources of energy than the oil— alternative sources of energy than the oil and — alternative sources of energy than the oil and gas which are russia's only exports, they will go down the pan. only exports, they will go down the an. , . only exports, they will go down the an, . ., , ., ., , ... pan. janet, i 'ust want to become what ou pan. janet, i 'ust want to become what you are’— pan. janet, i just want to become what you are saying _ pan. janet, i just want to become what you are saying about - pan. janet, i just want to become what you are saying about the i what you are saying about the concerns about covid and putting the

economy into deep freeze and printing money and so on. does that mean that you think that probably liz truss is on the right ground when she says, look, i'm going to rely on cutting taxes and growing the economy. i'm not prepared, you are smiling away. even despite the kind of pressures that voters are under. is that going to hold? weill. under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell you _ under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell you that _ under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell you that raising _ under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell you that raising taxes i under. is that going to hold? well, i can tell you that raising taxes at a time _ i can tell you that raising taxes at a time of— i can tell you that raising taxes at a time of the cost of living crisis is not _ a time of the cost of living crisis is notjust— a time of the cost of living crisis is notjust politically stupid, it is notjust politically stupid, it is evii~ — is notjust politically stupid, it is evil. people are going to be wondering whether they can afford to heat their— wondering whether they can afford to heat their homes, whether they can afford _ heat their homes, whether they can afford to— heat their homes, whether they can afford to eat three meals a day, whether— afford to eat three meals a day, whether they can afford to feed their— whether they can afford to feed their children. that is not the time to raise _ their children. that is not the time to raise tax~ — their children. that is not the time to raise tam— to raise tax. you can say lowering taxes as she _ to raise tax. you can say lowering taxes as she is _ to raise tax. you can say lowering taxes as she is suggesting - to raise tax. you can say lowering taxes as she is suggesting is i to raise tax. you can say lowering taxes as she is suggesting is not. taxes as she is suggesting is not going _ taxes as she is suggesting is not going to — taxes as she is suggesting is not going to put _ taxes as she is suggesting is not going to put money— taxes as she is suggesting is not going to put money in _ taxes as she is suggesting is not going to put money in the - taxes as she is suggesting is not. going to put money in the pockets taxes as she is suggesting is not- going to put money in the pockets to pay the _ going to put money in the pockets to pay the bills — going to put money in the pockets to pay the bills-— pay the bills. well, it will leave ou pay the bills. well, it will leave you more _ pay the bills. well, it will leave you more of— pay the bills. well, it will leave you more of your _ pay the bills. well, it will leave you more of your disposable i pay the bills. well, it will leave - you more of your disposable income if youte _ you more of your disposable income if youte hot— you more of your disposable income if you're not losing in tax but she is hot _ if you're not losing in tax but she is not talking about, apart from corporation tax and vat, she's not talking _ corporation tax and vat, she's not talking about lowering taxes. she is talking _ talking about lowering taxes. she is talking about lowering taxes. she is talking about not raising them, which _ talking about not raising them, which is — talking about not raising them, which is what sunak is. the national

insurance _ which is what sunak is. the national insurance rise,.— insurance rise,. does it engender enouah insurance rise,. does it engender enough capital? _ insurance rise,. does it engender enough capital? no, _ insurance rise,. does it engender enough capital? no, it— insurance rise,. does it engender enough capital? no, it doesn't i enough capital? no, it doesn't enuender enough capital? no, it doesn't engender enough _ enough capital? no, it doesn't engender enough but - enough capital? no, it doesn't engender enough but the - enough capital? no, it doesn't| engender enough but the point enough capital? no, it doesn't i engender enough but the point is enough capital? no, it doesn't - engender enough but the point is if you take _ engender enough but the point is if you take even more money out of people's— you take even more money out of people's take—home pay, that is wicked — people's take-home pay, that is wicked. , ,, .,~ people's take-home pay, that is wicked. , ,, ., people's take-home pay, that is wicked. , ,, , wicked. rishi sunak has a different a- roach, wicked. rishi sunak has a different approach. he _ wicked. rishi sunak has a different approach, he wrote _ wicked. rishi sunak has a different approach, he wrote an _ wicked. rishi sunak has a different approach, he wrote an article - wicked. rishi sunak has a different approach, he wrote an article on i approach, he wrote an article on friday saying he is going to effectively, he is prepared to subsidise the entire additional cost of energy firms, which is quite something to hear a conservative former chancellor say. find something to hear a conservative former chancellor say.— former chancellor say. and a thatcherite. _ former chancellor say. and a thatcherite. somebody - former chancellor say. and a thatcherite. somebody who | former chancellor say. and a - thatcherite. somebody who started his political career claiming to be a thatcherite. we have nigel lawson's portrait in his office when he was chancellor. i think he is essentially trying to make kind of distinguish himself from liz truss in the hope that he will sound more sensible. than her. but i think it is going to be, i think he is so behind the conservative, liz truss, in terms of leadership contest that

he has no chance unless something terrible happens. he’s he has no chance unless something terrible happens.— terrible happens. he's not saying that in response _ terrible happens. he's not saying that in response to _ terrible happens. he's not saying that in response to what - terrible happens. he's not saying that in response to what liz - terrible happens. he's not saying| that in response to what liz truss was saying — that in response to what liz truss was saying. he is the one who instituted _ was saying. he is the one who instituted the rise in the national insurance — instituted the rise in the national insurance contribution and she is saying _ insurance contribution and she is saying she — insurance contribution and she is saying she would reverse it. that was his _ saying she would reverse it. that was his idea. and those of us, some of us. _ was his idea. and those of us, some of us, commentators criticised him at the _ of us, commentators criticised him at the time — of us, commentators criticised him at the time the kind of gordon brown economics _ at the time the kind of gordon brown economics. but at the time the kind of gordon brown economics. �* , , �* ., economics. but this isn't gordon brown economics, _ economics. but this isn't gordon brown economics, janet. - economics. but this isn't gordon brown economics, janet. hold . economics. but this isn't gordon i brown economics, janet. hold on, economics. but this isn't gordon - brown economics, janet. hold on, he is not brown economics, janet. hold on, he is rrot saying — brown economics, janet. hold on, he is rrot saying what — brown economics, janet. hold on, he is not saying what he _ brown economics, janet. hold on, he is not saying what he is _ brown economics, janet. hold on, he is not saying what he is sane - brown economics, janet. hold on, he is not saying what he is sane in - is not saying what he is sane in response — is not saying what he is sane in response what she is saying. he is the one _ response what she is saying. he is the one who started it and she is saying that she would counter his policy _ saying that she would counter his oli . ~ . �* , saying that she would counter his oli _ . ., �* , , ., saying that she would counter his oli ,~ ., �*, , ., ., saying that she would counter his oli. ., fl, ., policy. what he's trying to do is t to policy. what he's trying to do is try to come _ policy. what he's trying to do is try to come up _ policy. what he's trying to do is try to come up as _ policy. what he's trying to do is try to come up as somebody . policy. what he's trying to do is l try to come up as somebody who understands economics, as opposed to the solutions of liz truss. itruiellll. the solutions of liz truss. well, i'm sorry- -- _ the solutions of liz truss. well, i'm sorry... cutting _ the solutions of liz truss. well, i'm sorry... cutting costs - the solutions of liz truss. well, i'm sorry... cutting costs in - the solutions of liz truss. well, i'm sorry... cutting costs in the | i'm sorry... cutting costs in the cost of living — i'm sorry... cutting costs in the cost of living crisis. _ i'm sorry... cutting costs in the cost of living crisis. 30% - cost of living crisis. 30% inflation.— cost of living crisis. 3096 inflation. �* , ., inflation. all right, but we go back to our inflation. all right, but we go back to your figure _ inflation. all right, but we go back to your figure by — inflation. all right, but we go back to your figure by inflation, - inflation. all right, but we go back to your figure by inflation, taxes i to your figure by inflation, taxes in this— to your figure by inflation, taxes in this country and out the highest they have — in this country and out the highest they have been for 70 years. now, that is— they have been for 70 years. now, that is a _ they have been for 70 years. now, that is a figure to reckon with. i

cannot— that is a figure to reckon with. i cannot see _ that is a figure to reckon with. i cannot see how, faced with the cost of living _ cannot see how, faced with the cost of living crisis and faced with the energy— of living crisis and faced with the energy crisis, you could consider, even _ energy crisis, you could consider, even consider putting up direct taxation — even consider putting up direct taxation. let even consider putting up direct taxation. , ., taxation. let me 'ust end that thouuht taxation. let me 'ust end that thought on b taxation. let me 'ust end that thought on just _ taxation. let me just end that thought on just observing - taxation. let me just end that | thought on just observing what taxation. let me just end that - thought on just observing what was said earlier in this discussion. energy doesn't appear to be very fashionable for politicians out of a crisis. i can remember talking to their then energy minister in the brown government, nearly part of the century, telling me we really have to do something about gas storage. how does that look now? let's move on and talk about donald trump. janet, we have had three significant legal moves, you could say four actually come up with the intervention of the attorney general saying he is prepared to release the details of the warrant and why they were searching the property florida. what you make about donald trump and the law? ~ , ., the law? well, everything in donald trum's the law? well, everything in donald trump's presidency _ the law? well, everything in donald trump's presidency was _ the law? well, everything in donald trump's presidency was an - the law? well, everything in donald l trump's presidency was an presidency to limit— trump's presidency was an presidency to limit unprecedented, from the moment— to limit unprecedented, from the moment when he arrived for his inaugural— moment when he arrived for his inaugural address waving his fist in

the air— inaugural address waving his fist in the air like — inaugural address waving his fist in the air like a tinpot dictator, to the air like a tinpot dictator, to the moment he had refused to accept the moment he had refused to accept the normal— the moment he had refused to accept the normal transition of government from one _ the normal transition of government from one elected government to another — from one elected government to another. to the moment that he chaired — another. to the moment that he chaired on — another. to the moment that he chaired on an army of people ransacking the capital. i mean, none of this, _ ransacking the capital. i mean, none of this, including the arrival of armed — of this, including the arrival of armed fbi _ of this, including the arrival of armed fbi officers at his home, has any president in american, in modern american _ any president in american, in modern american history. it is absolutely staggering. now, it sounds as if i never— staggering. now, it sounds as if i never bought the theory that the fbi and the _ never bought the theory that the fbi and the department ofjustice were doing _ and the department ofjustice were doing some sort of vengeful attack at the _ doing some sort of vengeful attack at the behest of the biden garment. that was— at the behest of the biden garment. that was absurd, they would never take such — that was absurd, they would never take such a — that was absurd, they would never take such a risk because if nothing else it _ take such a risk because if nothing else it would canonise him and his followers, — else it would canonise him and his followers, there like a religious cult so— followers, there like a religious cult so that would not be very clever— cult so that would not be very clever thing to do. so clearly they had something specific in mind. and it seems— had something specific in mind. and it seems now, they're hinting that the documents that they're searching for involve _ the documents that they're searching for involve nuclear classified information, which it would be very, very serious — information, which it would be very, very serious if he was holding those

in his— very serious if he was holding those in his private, in his own private property — in his private, in his own private property. and it is particular ironic— property. and it is particular ironic that he attacked hillary clinton — ironic that he attacked hillary clinton repeatedly using a private e-mail_ clinton repeatedly using a private e—mail address to do government business — e—mail address to do government business and implied that she was risking _ business and implied that she was risking classified information by doing _ risking classified information by doing this on a private e—mail server — doing this on a private e—mail server. and you remember the chant lock her— server. and you remember the chant lock her up? — server. and you remember the chant lock her up? yes. i mean, now, and he used _ lock her up? yes. i mean, now, and he used to— lock her up? yes. i mean, now, and he used to say— lock her up? yes. i mean, now, and he used to say terrible things about the people who took the fifth amendment. the fifth amendment is guaranteed by the constitution that would _ guaranteed by the constitution that would not _ guaranteed by the constitution that would not have to incriminate yourself~ _ would not have to incriminate yourself. hejust would not have to incriminate yourself. he just took the fifth amendment god knows how many times in this— amendment god knows how many times in this four— amendment god knows how many times in this four hour session he had with— in this four hour session he had with the — in this four hour session he had with the attorney general in new york _ with the attorney general in new york you — with the attorney general in new york. you wonder what it would take to dent _ york. you wonder what it would take to dent the _ york. you wonder what it would take to dent the following, the faithful. sure on— to dent the following, the faithful. sure on the hard courtroom faithful this will— sure on the hard courtroom faithful this will have no impact, just as nothing — this will have no impact, just as nothing had any impact. and they won't _ nothing had any impact. and they won't believe whatever evidence is produced — won't believe whatever evidence is produced. but i am dying to see the evidence _ produced. but i am dying to see the evidence that is produced. both sides feeling — evidence that is produced. brit? sides feeling energised ahead evidence that is produced. entry sides feeling energised ahead of the midterms, eunice. i have some

believing that they will be also win some independents who would be happy with the effect, and no longer has a president to guarantee abortion rights in different states. and others essentially fired up with his attack on tron. which conveniently for mr trump attack on tron. which conveniently for mrtrump as attack on tron. which conveniently for mr trump as forced a lot of conservatives to run it his cause again. conservatives to run it his cause aaain. �* ., , , again. i'm not sure both parties have reason _ again. i'm not sure both parties have reason to _ again. i'm not sure both parties have reason to be _ again. i'm not sure both parties have reason to be happy - again. i'm not sure both parties have reason to be happy for - again. i'm not sure both parties. have reason to be happy for those very same reasons. the republicans on the one hand, i don't think a donald trump association, in association with donald trump is quite excellent for the republican base because of course as janet mentioned earlier, the followers of donald trump, it is a cult but they are not the majority of the republican voters. and they would need to attract moderate republican voters in order to win an election. and for other republicans to be re—elected in the mid—term november elections. so that association with donald trump and in particular with

his unlawful, his complete neglect and disrespect for the rule of law because that is essentially what is, for the presidential office. because thatis for the presidential office. because that is essentially what is. when these discussions around nuclear power and nuclear weapons programme information that he was holding in florida are starting to be discussed more widely, a lot of sensible voters will be quite worried and they will not think that it is a good reason to support him. the democrats on the other hand, it is not clear either that they will make wins out of the roe versus wade. because the opinions there are very volatile. we saw for example in kansas there was a referendum which, to everyone's surprise, the referendum on guaranteeing... the -rotection referendum on guaranteeing... the protection remains in sight. but - referendum on guaranteeing... the protection remains in sight. but in. protection remains in sight. but in many other _ protection remains in sight. but in many other republican _ protection remains in sight. but in many other republican state - protection remains in sight. but in many other republican state the l many other republican state the situation has become much, much harder. what i think will help the democrats is the inflation reduction

that has been signed, about to be voted in congress. because this was going to put money into people's pockets. this is a good story for the democrats to go to the mid—term november elections. so much so that lots of republican senators supported the bill. and so that is i think what is going to help democrats.— think what is going to help democrats. �* ., , ,., democrats. but ultimately, both the arties are democrats. but ultimately, both the parties are in — democrats. but ultimately, both the parties are in deep _ democrats. but ultimately, both the parties are in deep trouble. - democrats. but ultimately, both the parties are in deep trouble. there i parties are in deep trouble. there are some — parties are in deep trouble. there are some plausible alternatives to trump _ are some plausible alternatives to trum -. ., ., ., are some plausible alternatives to trum. ., ., ., ., ., trump. the governor of florida if he nets trump. the governor of florida if he gets re-elected. _ trump. the governor of florida if he gets re-elected. even _ trump. the governor of florida if he gets re-elected. even mike - trump. the governor of florida if he gets re-elected. even mike pence i gets re-elected. even mike pence conceivably _ gets re-elected. even mike pence conceivably. there _ gets re-elected. even mike pence conceivably. there are _ gets re-elected. even mike pence conceivably. there are people - gets re-elected. even mike pence | conceivably. there are people who are on _ conceivably. there are people who are on the — conceivably. there are people who are on the right of the party, politically, who can attract for sound — politically, who can attract for sound principled reasons those republicans, though sort of right win- republicans, though sort of right wing republicans. but the democrats, who are _ wing republicans. but the democrats, who are they going to choose? biden cannot— who are they going to choose? biden cannot possibly run again. and his vice president, kamala harris, is a complete — vice president, kamala harris, is a complete disaster. so she would normally— complete disaster. so she would normally be the inherited vice president. so who are the democrats

counter— president. so who are the democrats counter go _ president. so who are the democrats counter go for? let president. so who are the democrats counter go for?— president. so who are the democrats counter go for? let me bring thomas in because you _ counter go for? let me bring thomas in because you watched _ counter go for? let me bring thomas in because you watched a _ counter go for? let me bring thomas| in because you watched a beleaguered democratic administration and an energy crisis. do you feel when you look at biden it is to be carter altogether again? look at biden it is to be carter altogetheragain? flat look at biden it is to be carter altogether again?— look at biden it is to be carter altouether auain? ., , .., , altogether again? not quite because carter had the _ altogether again? not quite because carter had the oil— altogether again? not quite because carter had the oil crisis _ altogether again? not quite because carter had the oil crisis which - altogether again? not quite because carter had the oil crisis which was i carter had the oil crisis which was the prevailing _ carter had the oil crisis which was the prevailing problem _ carter had the oil crisis which was the prevailing problem of- carter had the oil crisis which was the prevailing problem of the - carter had the oil crisis which wasi the prevailing problem of the 70s. and that _ the prevailing problem of the 70s. and that compared _ the prevailing problem of the 70s. and that compared to _ the prevailing problem of the 70s. and that compared to the - the prevailing problem of the 70s. and that compared to the crisis i the prevailing problem of the 70s.| and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays _ and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays is _ and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays is chicken _ and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays is chicken feed - and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays is chicken feed as l and that compared to the crisis we face nowadays is chicken feed as it were _ face nowadays is chicken feed as it were what — face nowadays is chicken feed as it were what i — face nowadays is chicken feed as it were. what i think, _ face nowadays is chicken feed as it were. what i think, and _ face nowadays is chicken feed as it were. what i think, and i- face nowadays is chicken feed as it were. what i think, and i come - face nowadays is chicken feed as it. were. what i think, and i come back to what— were. what i think, and i come back to what janet — were. what i think, and i come back to what janet said, _ were. what i think, and i come back to what janet said, when _ were. what i think, and i come back to what janet said, when you - were. what i think, and i come back to what janet said, when you add i were. what i think, and i come back to what janet said, when you add all these _ to what janet said, when you add all these things — to what janet said, when you add all these things which _ to what janet said, when you add all these things which are _ to what janet said, when you add all these things which are in _ to what janet said, when you add all these things which are in balance i to what janet said, when you add all these things which are in balance in| these things which are in balance in america. _ these things which are in balance in america. i— these things which are in balance in america, i think— these things which are in balance in america, i think donald _ these things which are in balance in america, i think donald trump - these things which are in balance in america, i think donald trump is i these things which are in balance in. america, i think donald trump is the one accident — america, i think donald trump is the one accident that _ america, i think donald trump is the one accident that i _ america, i think donald trump is the one accident that i wished _ america, i think donald trump is the one accident that i wished had - america, i think donald trump is the one accident that i wished had never| one accident that i wished had never happened _ one accident that i wished had never happened in— one accident that i wished had never happened in american _ one accident that i wished had never happened in american history. - one accident that i wished had never happened in american history. he i one accident that i wished had never. happened in american history. he has really— happened in american history. he has really complete — happened in american history. he has really complete the _ happened in american history. he has really complete the upset _ happened in american history. he has really complete the upset the - happened in american history. he has really complete the upset the apple . really complete the upset the apple cart. really complete the upset the apple cart~ he _ really complete the upset the apple cart~ he has — really complete the upset the apple cart. he has seized _ really complete the upset the apple cart. he has seized traditions- really complete the upset the apple cart. he has seized traditions of- cart. he has seized traditions of political— cart. he has seized traditions of political behaviour— cart. he has seized traditions of political behaviour which - cart. he has seized traditions of political behaviour which was i cart. he has seized traditions of. political behaviour which was still in place _ political behaviour which was still in place under— political behaviour which was still in place under reagan _ political behaviour which was still in place under reagan and - political behaviour which was still in place under reagan and have i in place under reagan and have completely— in place under reagan and have completely followed _ in place under reagan and have completely followed by - in place under reagan and have completely followed by the i in place under reagan and have i completely followed by the raeside. and it _ completely followed by the raeside. and it is _ completely followed by the raeside. and it is such— completely followed by the raeside. and it is such a — completely followed by the raeside. and it is such a disastrously- and it is such a disastrously divided _ and it is such a disastrously divided nation— and it is such a disastrously divided nation now- and it is such a disastrously divided nation now but i i and it is such a disastrously. divided nation now but i grieve and it is such a disastrously- divided nation now but i grieve for the country— divided nation now but i grieve for the country that _ divided nation now but i grieve for the country that used _

divided nation now but i grieve for the country that used to _ divided nation now but i grieve for the country that used to love i divided nation now but i grieve for the country that used to love for. the country that used to love for its stability— the country that used to love for its stability that _ the country that used to love for its stability that we _ the country that used to love for its stability that we used - the country that used to love for its stability that we used to i the country that used to love for its stability that we used to lookj its stability that we used to look up its stability that we used to look up to _ its stability that we used to look up to yes. _ its stability that we used to look up to. yes. they— its stability that we used to look up to. yes, they had _ its stability that we used to look up to. yes, they had their- its stability that we used to look- up to. yes, they had their problems but trump. — up to. yes, they had their problems but trump, the _ up to. yes, they had their problems but trump, the degree _ up to. yes, they had their problems but trump, the degree of— up to. yes, they had their problems but trump, the degree of his - but trump, the degree of his otherness— but trump, the degree of his otherness as _ but trump, the degree of his otherness as it _ but trump, the degree of his otherness as it were - but trump, the degree of his otherness as it were is - but trump, the degree of his - otherness as it were is frightening. the thing _ otherness as it were is frightening. the thing is, — otherness as it were is frightening. the thing is, it— otherness as it were is frightening. the thing is, it could _ otherness as it were is frightening. the thing is, it could only- otherness as it were is frightening. the thing is, it could only happen i the thing is, it could only happen if the _ the thing is, it could only happen if the culture war was there. i mean. — if the culture war was there. i mean. he _ if the culture war was there. i mean, he didn't come out of nowhere and he _ mean, he didn't come out of nowhere and he could — mean, he didn't come out of nowhere and he could not have been elected if that— and he could not have been elected if that terrible schizophrenic sort of cultural... if that terrible schizophrenic sort of cultural. . ._ of cultural... and the creed that ou can of cultural... and the creed that you can propose _ of cultural... and the creed that you can propose the _ of cultural... and the creed that you can propose the people i of cultural... and the creed that you can propose the people as i you can propose the people as something _ you can propose the people as something to _ you can propose the people as something to follow... - you can propose the people as something to follow... he i you can propose the people as something to follow... he doesn't even understand _ something to follow... he doesn't even understand the _ something to follow... he doesn't even understand the constitution. i something to follow... he doesn't i even understand the constitution. he knows _ even understand the constitution. he knows nothing about america. i don't understand _ knows nothing about america. i don't understand that. he went to a very good _ understand that. he went to a very good private school. i went to a perfectly— good private school. i went to a perfectly ordinary american high school — perfectly ordinary american high school i— perfectly ordinary american high school. i had to learn the constitution. i don't understand how constitution. idon't understand how somebody— constitution. i don't understand how somebody with his background, coming from his— somebody with his background, coming from his family, can manage to be quite _ from his family, can manage to be quite so _ from his family, can manage to be quite so ignorant about the political— quite so ignorant about the political culture that he is supposed to be presiding over. it is astonishing. let supposed to be presiding over. it is astonishing-— astonishing. let me end, we have about a minute _ astonishing. let me end, we have about a minute each _ astonishing. let me end, we have about a minute each for— astonishing. let me end, we have about a minute each for you i astonishing. let me end, we have about a minute each for you to i astonishing. let me end, we have i about a minute each for you to pose about a minute each for you to pose a thought for us on other stories. eunice first. about a minute on the

pressing issue of drought. drought, es. i pressing issue of drought. drought, yes- i think — pressing issue of drought. drought, yes- i think it _ pressing issue of drought. drought, yes. i think it is _ pressing issue of drought. drought, yes. i think it is a _ pressing issue of drought. drought, yes. i think it is a growing - yes. i think it is a growing concern. every year gets worse. now it is france, southern europe, portugal and spain have faced drought for many years. every summer there is a very agonising debate in there is a very agonising debate in the iberian peninsula about what we are going to do to tackle drought. there is the wildfires because this is essentially half the country is on fire because of those drought conditions. now it is france and we are seeing now in northern europe. and this is climate change and we still have a lot of governments, including in this country, in the nihilism about what to do to face climate change. we have the contender to become the prime minister in the united kingdom complaining this week about solar panels at a time when there is energy shortages and that is essentially the things that you need

to do to prevent these drought conditions. it is very, very serious. conditions. it is very, very serious-— conditions. it is very, very serious. ., �*, ., ,, ., serious. thomas, let's talk about realism in — serious. thomas, let's talk about realism in politics _ serious. thomas, let's talk about realism in politics and _ serious. thomas, let's talk about realism in politics and the - serious. thomas, let's talk about | realism in politics and the position of the greens in germany. melt. realism in politics and the position of the greens in germany.- of the greens in germany. well, it is something _ of the greens in germany. well, it is something to _ of the greens in germany. well, it is something to do _ of the greens in germany. well, it is something to do with _ of the greens in germany. well, it is something to do with what i of the greens in germany. well, it i is something to do with what people think the _ is something to do with what people think the invasion _ is something to do with what people think the invasion of _ is something to do with what people think the invasion of ukraine - is something to do with what people think the invasion of ukraine has- think the invasion of ukraine has benefited — think the invasion of ukraine has benefited our— think the invasion of ukraine has benefited our thinking _ think the invasion of ukraine has benefited our thinking in - think the invasion of ukraine has benefited our thinking in the i think the invasion of ukraine has. benefited our thinking in the west. i benefited our thinking in the west. i know— benefited our thinking in the west. i know it _ benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is — benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is a — benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is a bit _ benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is a bit immoral— benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is a bit immoral to- benefited our thinking in the west. i know it is a bit immoral to think. i know it is a bit immoral to think about— i know it is a bit immoral to think about it _ i know it is a bit immoral to think about it when _ i know it is a bit immoral to think about it when you _ i know it is a bit immoral to think about it when you think - i know it is a bit immoral to think about it when you think about i i know it is a bit immoral to think| about it when you think about the suffering — about it when you think about the suffering of — about it when you think about the suffering of ukrainian _ about it when you think about the suffering of ukrainian people. i about it when you think about the| suffering of ukrainian people. but the turnaround _ suffering of ukrainian people. but the turnaround in _ suffering of ukrainian people. but the turnaround in current - the turnaround in current international— the turnaround in current international history- the turnaround in current international history hasi the turnaround in current - international history has brought some _ international history has brought some good — international history has brought some good changes _ international history has brought some good changes of— international history has brought some good changes of opinion. international history has brought l some good changes of opinion and inward _ some good changes of opinion and inward introspection— some good changes of opinion and inward introspection and _ some good changes of opinion and. inward introspection and rethinking. amongst— inward introspection and rethinking. amongst them _ inward introspection and rethinking. amongst them i_ inward introspection and rethinking. amongst them i would _ inward introspection and rethinking. amongst them i would count - inward introspection and rethinking. amongst them i would count the i amongst them i would count the greens— amongst them i would count the greens is— amongst them i would count the greens is the _ amongst them i would count the greens is the most _ amongst them i would count the greens is the most as _ amongst them i would count the greens is the most as it - amongst them i would count the greens is the most as it were i greens is the most as it were beneficiaries _ greens is the most as it were beneficiaries of— greens is the most as it were beneficiaries of the _ greens is the most as it were beneficiaries of the situation. greens is the most as it were i beneficiaries of the situation. they have begun — beneficiaries of the situation. they have begun to— beneficiaries of the situation. they have begun to say— beneficiaries of the situation. they have begun to say goodbye - beneficiaries of the situation. they have begun to say goodbye to i beneficiaries of the situation. they. have begun to say goodbye to some beneficiaries of the situation. they i have begun to say goodbye to some of their beloved sort _ have begun to say goodbye to some of their beloved sort of— their beloved sort of creeds and what have you.— their beloved sort of creeds and - what have you._ green, what have you. sacred cows. green, wantin: to what have you. sacred cows. green, wanting to paint— what have you. sacred cows. green, wanting to paint the _ what have you. sacred cows. green, wanting to paint the world _ what have you. sacred cows. green, wanting to paint the world green - wanting to paint the world green virtually— wanting to paint the world green virtually in — wanting to paint the world green virtually in every _ wanting to paint the world green virtually in every aspect - wanting to paint the world green virtually in every aspect of- wanting to paint the world green virtually in every aspect of the l virtually in every aspect of the word — virtually in every aspect of the word and _ virtually in every aspect of the word. and they're _ virtually in every aspect of the word. and they're now- virtually in every aspect of the word. and they're now having | virtually in every aspect of the l word. and they're now having to learn _ word. and they're now having to learn the — word. and they're now having to learn the reality— word. and they're now having to learn the reality of— word. and they're now having to learn the reality of how - word. and they're now having to learn the reality of how you - word. and they're now having to learn the reality of how you deal with the — learn the reality of how you deal with the crisis _ learn the reality of how you deal with the crisis when _ learn the reality of how you deal with the crisis when you - learn the reality of how you deal with the crisis when you are - learn the reality of how you deal with the crisis when you are in l with the crisis when you are in government _ with the crisis when you are in government. and _ with the crisis when you are in government. and they - with the crisis when you are in government. and they are - with the crisis when you are in government. and they are in. government. and they are in government. _ government. and they are in government, which- government. and they are in government, which is- government. and they are in government, which is a - government. and they are ini government, which is a huge challenge _ government, which is a huge challenge for— government, which is a huge challenge for a _ government, which is a huge challenge for a party- government, which is a huge challenge for a party which . government, which is a huge i challenge for a party which used government, which is a huge - challenge for a party which used to thrive _ challenge for a party which used to thrive on _ challenge for a party which used to thrive on protest _ challenge for a party which used to thrive on protest and _ challenge for a party which used to

thrive on protest and protest - thrive on protest and protest marches _ thrive on protest and protest marches and _ thrive on protest and protest marches and so _ thrive on protest and protest marches and so forth. - thrive on protest and protest marches and so forth.- thrive on protest and protest marches and so forth. janet, last thou~ht marches and so forth. janet, last thought on _ marches and so forth. janet, last thought on globalisation. - marches and so forth. janet, last thought on globalisation. can - marches and so forth. janet, last| thought on globalisation. can you sum up the threat.— thought on globalisation. can you sum up the threat. yes, one of the situations we _ sum up the threat. yes, one of the situations we have _ sum up the threat. yes, one of the situations we have learnt from - sum up the threat. yes, one of the situations we have learnt from that situation, — situations we have learnt from that situation, the dependence on russian energy— situation, the dependence on russian energy and _ situation, the dependence on russian energy and cheap manufacturer's goods _ energy and cheap manufacturer's goods from china as it maybe globalisation has hit a wall. maybe the idea _ globalisation has hit a wall. maybe the idea after the cold war that we were all— the idea after the cold war that we were all friends now, we were all relatively— were all friends now, we were all relatively democratic, free societies, not china, could somehow reach _ societies, not china, could somehow reach accommodation with one another and trade _ reach accommodation with one another and trade goods for everybody's interests, — and trade goods for everybody's interests, that is over. and we now realise _ interests, that is over. and we now realise with — interests, that is over. and we now realise with china's threat to taiwan— realise with china's threat to taiwan and hong kong that it is not a great _ taiwan and hong kong that it is not a great idea to be buying a lot of cheap _ a great idea to be buying a lot of cheap manufactured goods from china and it _ cheap manufactured goods from china and it is— cheap manufactured goods from china and it is early not a great idea to be dependent on russia for energy. janet _ be dependent on russia for energy. janet daley dilemma daily, eunice goes, thomas kielinger, thank you very much. she reminds me that headline from when ramsay macdonald had been by ministerfor many headline from when ramsay macdonald had been by minister for many years and was so fond of trying to achieve international peace that it is said

that there was an english newspaper headline prime minister visits country. i hope you will visit dateline london again next week. goodbye. hello. temperatures have been shooting up already today in the warm sunshine. we started the day at 20 degrees in some areas in the south and we still have an amber extreme heat warning valid through the rest of the weekend across a good part of england come into east wales as well. but wherever you are you are going to be seen hot weather through the weekend. potential for travel delays and heat problems. temperatures reaching 36 degrees in

the warm response towards the south—east but even further north we are looking at the high 205. a little bit cooler where you have the cloud across the far north of scotland, one or two 5hower5 for the northern i5le5. overnight a little bit of mist and low cloud drifting into the far north—east of scotland and england but clear skies elsewhere and overnight temperatures 11 to 18. very uncomfortable for ii to 18. very uncomfortable for sleeping once again i'm afraid. through the day tomorrow, some heavy showers for northern ireland and scotland, thundery with large hail. in the south—east up to 36 degrees once again.

this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. writers and politicians condemn an attack on acclaimed author, sir salman rushdie, who is now on a ventilator, after being stabbed while on stage in the us state of new york. his agent says the 75—year—old cannot speak, is likely to lose one eye, has a damaged liver and the nerves in one arm have been arm have been severed. more extreme heat is expected in the southern half of the uk over the next two days. that, as experts also warn england's drought could last into the next year.