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hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster and psychotherapist, lucy beresford, and joe twyman, who's director of the polling organisation deltapoll. to both of them in the moment. the sunday times frontpage — uk students must pay tuition fees closer to £24,000 a year or lose their places to applicants overseas, urge university bosses. the sunday mirror reports 2.6 million of subsidised meals
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were binned in the houses of parliament, as soaring food prices hit family households, waste—minster, is its headline. the sunday express says britain's business are being urged to get ready for a trade deal predicted to open up a post—brexit market of around half a billion people. the sunday telegraph follows the conservative race to become prime minister — as candidate liz truss pledges to halt the exodus of nhs doctors and clear the surging back log and waiting lists. the observer has a picturesque autumn photo, and yet it's the middle of august — experts say heatwaves and dry weather has pushed trees into survival mode. no survival mode here, good to see you both. we will start with the sunday times. universities push for a vital tuition fee rise. this
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sunday times. universities push for a vital tuition fee rise.— a vital tuition fee rise. this is a story about _ a vital tuition fee rise. this is a story about how— a vital tuition fee rise. this is a story about how so _ a vital tuition fee rise. this is a story about how so many - a vital tuition fee rise. this is a - story about how so many universities are strapped for cash. they have found themselves taking on many more overseas students, for which they can cut charge a very high amount, and if the uk students are paying just under £10,000, which is a figure which has been frozen for about a decade, that contrasts massively with the figure that universities can charge for an overseas student, which is close to £25,000. while several chancellors and vice chancellors of universities are saying is that they simply do not have the funding model to do this any differently. they are calling on the government to step in and try to support them in their request to ramp up the amount of money that a uk student would have to pay. already, a lot of students find themselves hideously in debt at the end of their three or four year
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degree programme, so the idea that this would, on an annual figure, be close to nearly three times that is really quite shocking. that puts the cost of living crisis into insignificance.- cost of living crisis into insiunificance. , ., . ., ., insignificance. this chancellor of sunderland's_ insignificance. this chancellor of sunderland's university - insignificance. this chancellor of sunderland's university saying i insignificance. this chancellor of l sunderland's university saying you cannot expect to run a university on the fees they are currently charging, some will find that hard to believe, what role can the government play? the to believe, what role can the government play?— to believe, what role can the government play? to believe, what role can the government -la ? , , ., government play? the issue of higher education funding _ government play? the issue of higher education funding has _ government play? the issue of higher education funding has been _ government play? the issue of higher education funding has been one - government play? the issue of higher education funding has been one that l education funding has been one that has been _ education funding has been one that has been politically very difficult to deal— has been politically very difficult to deal with. the issue came up under_ to deal with. the issue came up under the — to deal with. the issue came up under the labour government in the 19905. _ under the labour government in the 19905. but — under the labour government in the 19905, but then the figure was much lower~ _ 19905, but then the figure was much lower~ we _ 19905, but then the figure was much lower. we saw the difficulty that the liberal democrats had entering the liberal democrats had entering the coalition with the conservatives, and having to change their stance — conservatives, and having to change their 5tance over fee5. the5e conservatives, and having to change their 5tance over fee5. these have stayed _ their 5tance over fee5. these have stayed this— their 5tance over fee5. these have stayed this way for their stance over fees. these have stayed this way for so long because many— stayed this way for so long because many see _
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stayed this way for so long because many see them as the least worst solution _ many see them as the least worst solution to— many see them as the least worst solution to higher education funding _ solution to higher education funding. many willargue, what solution to higher education funding. many will argue, what about general— funding. many will argue, what about general taxation, what about this, but neither— general taxation, what about this, but neither of those suggestions i5 but neither of those suggestions is without— but neither of those suggestions is without its own problems. the precise — without its own problems. the precise figure of £9,250 was set back_ precise figure of £9,250 was set back in— precise figure of £9,250 was set back in 2017, having been proposed in 2015 _ back in 2017, having been proposed in 2015. these things take time, historically, to change. while inflation _ historically, to change. while inflation was bubbling along around 2.5%,~~~ _ inflation was bubbling along around 2.5%,... now with inflation running into double — 2.5%,... now with inflation running into double digits potentially for many _ into double digits potentially for many months if not years to come, that means — many months if not years to come, that means the cost that universities face across the board will increase significantly. 0ne universities face across the board will increase significantly. one of the will increase significantly. 0ne of the deat— will increase significantly. one of the deal mentioned in the article has talked about the need to get more _ has talked about the need to get more students in from other countries, _ more students in from other countries, particularly china and india. _ countries, particularly china and india. but— countries, particularly china and india, but for decades foreign
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students _ india, but for decades foreign students have subsidise higher education in this country. they pay significant — education in this country. they pay significant the more than home students, — significant the more than home students, in order to allow home students — students, in order to allow home students to study at a reduced figure — students to study at a reduced figure. will all this have to be rethought? i think a complete rethink— rethought? i think a complete rethink is _ rethought? i think a complete rethink is unlikely to happen, but i think— rethink is unlikely to happen, but i think that — rethink is unlikely to happen, but i think that from £9,250 i5 rethink is unlikely to happen, but i think that from £9,250 is almost inevitable — think that from £9,250 is almost inevitable if inflation continues to rise _ inevitable if inflation continues to rise |t— inevitable if inflation continues to rise. ., , , ., rise. it might not be the news that celebrating — rise. it might not be the news that celebrating exam _ rise. it might not be the news that celebrating exam results - rise. it might not be the news that celebrating exam results want - rise. it might not be the news that celebrating exam results want to l celebrating exam results want to here, although they may be out celebrating and not watching this, what pressure will this put on the new prime minister?— what pressure will this put on the new prime minister? yes, how could the not new prime minister? yes, how could they not be — new prime minister? yes, how could they not be watching! _ new prime minister? yes, how could they not be watching! this _ new prime minister? yes, how could they not be watching! this is - new prime minister? yes, how could they not be watching! this is yet - they not be watching! this is yet another thing that is going to be a really massive weight in the in tray of whoever makes it through the conservative leadership election on the 5th of september. i think, at the 5th of september. i think, at the same time, there is a problem, because you have so many people who are very attracted to come and study in the uk, it has been one of our
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unique selling points. we have academic institutions of international renown, and it would be a great shame if we somehow turned the tap of that. if you are the prime minister, and you have actually got all of these other things in your entry, to then think about the fact that universities have got to find increased money for their fuel bills, have got to find increased money for theirfuel bills, they have got to find increased money for their fuel bills, they will want to have lecture halls that are heated, so that their students can come, then actually you are going to want to start a dialogue with centres of academic excellence, but you may think that there are the things higher up on your priority list, and surely if you are a vice chancellor, thatis surely if you are a vice chancellor, that is you job to make the budget work without government intervention.— work without government intervention. ., ,, ., intervention. talking about the ent of intervention. talking about the entry of the — intervention. talking about the entry of the new _ intervention. talking about the entry of the new conservative l intervention. talking about the - entry of the new conservative leader in the prime minister, let's go to
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the observer. the in the prime minister, let's go to the observer-— in the prime minister, let's go to the observer. the latest poll in the observer has _ the observer. the latest poll in the observer has a _ the observer. the latest poll in the observer has a low _ the observer. the latest poll in the observer has a low labour— the observer. the latest poll in the observer has a low labour lead - the observer. the latest poll in the observer has a low labour lead of. observer has a low labour lead of 8%, observer has a low labour lead of 8%. and — observer has a low labour lead of 8%, and these polls are important because _ 8%, and these polls are important because they are exceeding believed that labour had just before boris johnson — that labour had just before boris johnson resigned. very plainly, the challenge _ johnson resigned. very plainly, the challenge that faces the new conservative leader, whoever that may be, _ conservative leader, whoever that may be, as — conservative leader, whoever that may be, as time goes on, it appears that the _ may be, as time goes on, it appears that the more the public ear from rishi _ that the more the public ear from rishi sunak and liz truss, the less they like _ rishi sunak and liz truss, the less they like them. the polls have been in the _ they like them. the polls have been in the past — they like them. the polls have been in the past neck and neck between, for instance. — in the past neck and neck between, for instance, keir starmer and the two candidates. now, keir starmer i5 two candidates. now, keir starmer is moving _ two candidates. now, keir starmer is moving further ahead, and the question— moving further ahead, and the question is, will either lead or be able to— question is, will either lead or be able to come up with the kind of solutions— able to come up with the kind of solutions to the major issues, most notably— solutions to the major issues, most
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notably the — solutions to the major issues, most notably the cost of living crisis? that _ notably the cost of living crisis? that is — notably the cost of living crisis? that is by— notably the cost of living crisis? that is by no means the only issue facing _ that is by no means the only issue facing the — that is by no means the only issue facing the new leader. will they be able to— facing the new leader. will they be able to come up with solutions for those _ able to come up with solutions for those problems fast enough, and effectively enough, to bring about a change _ effectively enough, to bring about a change in _ effectively enough, to bring about a change in the polls? i imagine, if the polls— change in the polls? i imagine, if the polls remain in this position for, the polls remain in this position for. let's— the polls remain in this position for, let's say the next 12 months, then— for, let's say the next 12 months, then many— for, let's say the next 12 months, then many in the conservative party will be _ then many in the conservative party will be looking forward to the next li-ht will be looking forward to the next light on. _ will be looking forward to the next light on, whenever that may be, i'm thinking, _ light on, whenever that may be, i'm thinking, are— light on, whenever that may be, i'm thinking, are we any better now than we were _ thinking, are we any better now than we were with borisjohnson? that could _ we were with borisjohnson? that could leave dominic lead to the kind -- that— could leave dominic lead to the kind —— that could lead to the kind of decisions — —— that could lead to the kind of decisions that elections are lost on. decisions that elections are lost on it'll— decisions that elections are lost on it'll be _ decisions that elections are lost on. it'll be interesting to see if the conservatives can clause something back, because at the moment— something back, because at the moment labour are something back, because at the moment labourare in something back, because at the moment labour are in a good position _ moment labour are in a good osition. ., , moment labour are in a good position-— position. how nervy will the conservative _ position. how nervy will the conservative party - position. how nervy will the conservative party b - position. how nervy will the conservative party b at - position. how nervy will the conservative party b at this| position. how nervy will the - conservative party b at this stage, two weeks out from the ballot closing in the leadership race? the world on the _ closing in the leadership race? tie:
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world on the street closing in the leadership race? tte: world on the street says closing in the leadership race? t'te: world on the street says that closing in the leadership race? tte: world on the street says that at least 50% of members have already cast their vote, so people are very concerned that there is not scope for any kind of movement at the moment. it looks like it will be liz truss who will be prime minister, but the opening sentence of this article in the observer says that senior tories have warned that their party will suffer dire electoral consequences under liz truss, unless she addresses the cost of living crisis. that is a bit of a no—brainer. given that the cost of living is the number one thing that the electorate is concerned about, if the government is not addressing that number one priority, then, of course, you are going to suffer in the next election. i think what has been so interesting about keir starmer�*s plan to freeze the energy bills, is it is not so much whether it will work, it is just that it is such a simple message to get across, and that the electorate have really
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seized on that. when you are pulling people, and you say, does this sound like a good idea, doesn't sound like keir starmer will be the right person to lead the country, people can be swayed by a lot of clarity of thinking, and i think presumably the tories are looking at that and thinking, we have not got any ideas that have the same degree of clarity. unfortunately, that is probably going to reflect in future polls. brute probably going to reflect in future olls. ~ . ., probably going to reflect in future olls. . ., probably going to reflect in future olls. ~ _, ., ,., probably going to reflect in future olls. ~ ., . ., , polls. we will come to some clarity of thinkin: polls. we will come to some clarity of thinking from _ polls. we will come to some clarity of thinking from liz _ polls. we will come to some clarity of thinking from liz truss _ polls. we will come to some clarity of thinking from liz truss in - polls. we will come to some clarity of thinking from liz truss in a - of thinking from liz truss in a moment, but quickly, news that michael gove is supporting rishi sunak in this leadership contest, i wonder what you think the significance of that is? michael gove is one — significance of that is? michael gove is one of— significance of that is? michael gove is one of the _ significance of that is? michael gove is one of the most - significance of that is? michael gove is one of the most senior| gove is one of the most senior political— gove is one of the most senior political figures who are still left in the _ political figures who are still left in the cabinet. there is no doubt that many— in the cabinet. there is no doubt that many in westminster and many in the conservative party due to take his views — the conservative party due to take his views with interest. but, as
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lucy— his views with interest. but, as lucy said. _ his views with interest. but, as lucy said, polls show that more than 50% of— lucy said, polls show that more than 50% of conservative party members have voted, and the change around the poles _ have voted, and the change around the poles would have to be enormous to bring _ the poles would have to be enormous to bring about victory for rishi sunak — to bring about victory for rishi sunak. this is more about michael gove _ sunak. this is more about michael gove sending a message about the type of— gove sending a message about the type of country we wants to see the conservatives aim for. to type of country we wants to see the conservatives aim for.— type of country we wants to see the conservatives aim for. to the sunday telegraph... — conservatives aim for. to the sunday telegraph, . .. this _ conservatives aim for. to the sunday telegraph, . .. this is _ conservatives aim for. to the sunday telegraph,... this is an _ telegraph,... this is an extraordinary _ telegraph,... this is an extraordinary story, - telegraph,... this is an - extraordinary story, because we telegraph,... this is an _ extraordinary story, because we know that the nhs has been struggling to tackle the covert backlog —— like the covid backlog. one of the reasons for that is that one in ten consultants are expected to retire in the next ten months, and one of the triggers for that is that there
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is a real problem with the structure of their pension scheme. they have a cap, many people have a pension cap, but unfortunately, gps and consultants are actually taxed if they carry on working and putting money into their pension pots. so, quite a lot of them choose to take early retirement. liz truss's plan is to solve that backlog very much around trying to restructure that part of their remuneration, which sounds very laudable, i don't know why nobody has done that before, if it really is that straightforward, evenif it really is that straightforward, even if they have a cat they would not be penalised if they continued working. alongside the cost of living, the backlog in the nhs, the waiting list, and the horrendous stories that we are hearing about queues of ambulances outside
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hospitals, people having to queue overnight, patients having to queue overnight, patients having to queue overnight, it really does seem as if the nhs is creaking. that is, again, going to be a really significant item in the entry for the future prime minister. t item in the entry for the future prime minister.— item in the entry for the future prime minister. ., , ,., ,, ., ,., prime minister. i have spoken about many people — prime minister. i have spoken about many people in _ prime minister. i have spoken about many people in the _ prime minister. i have spoken about many people in the past _ prime minister. i have spoken about many people in the past years - prime minister. i have spoken about many people in the past years who l many people in the past years who have left the nhs because it is simply got too much for them. is this enough to entice those types of people back into the nhs? that remains to _ people back into the nhs? that remains to be _ people back into the nhs? that remains to be seen, _ people back into the nhs? that remains to be seen, but i think the adjustment — remains to be seen, but i think the adjustment around the pensions cap, which _ adjustment around the pensions cap, which we _ adjustment around the pensions cap, which we were all subject to, previously it was around £10 million. _ previously it was around £10 million, and reduced by the conservatives to1 million, and reduced by the conservatives to 1 million million, and reduced by the conservatives to1 million many years _ conservatives to1 million many years ago _ conservatives to1 million many years ago. i don't think a change like years ago. idon't think a change like that— years ago. idon't think a change like that is— years ago. i don't think a change like that is going to have a significant impact, at least not in the short— significant impact, at least not in the short term. it might keep some people _ the short term. it might keep some people in— the short term. it might keep some people in for a couple of years, but i people in for a couple of years, but i don't _ people in for a couple of years, but idon't think— people in for a couple of years, but i don't think it will bring about a significant — i don't think it will bring about a significant change. of course, the
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crucial— significant change. of course, the crucial issue, every winter the nhs is put _ crucial issue, every winter the nhs is put under— crucial issue, every winter the nhs is put under strain. every winter there _ is put under strain. every winter there are — is put under strain. every winter there are dire stories about the difficulties the nhs faces, and this year is _ difficulties the nhs faces, and this year is likely to be worse than many other— year is likely to be worse than many other years. — year is likely to be worse than many other years, and so with that ahead of them, _ other years, and so with that ahead of them, obviously some sort of solution — of them, obviously some sort of solution must be put forward by the candidates. liz truss has said she will come — candidates. liz truss has said she will come up with a radical package of reforms, but will we see anything that will— of reforms, but will we see anything that will make a substantive difference? it remains to be seen, butl— difference? it remains to be seen, but i think— difference? it remains to be seen, but i think it — difference? it remains to be seen, but i think it is unlikely. it easy solutions— but i think it is unlikely. it easy solutions to these kind of questions, they would have been given— questions, they would have been given before now. the questions, they would have been given before now.— questions, they would have been given before now. the final page to look at comes _ given before now. the final page to look at comes from _ given before now. the final page to look at comes from the _ given before now. the final page to look at comes from the sunday - look at comes from the sunday mirror. wasteminster, this piece nodding to stomach churning figures, not great reading? the
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nodding to stomach churning figures, not great reading?— not great reading? the idea that 1000 tonnes _ not great reading? the idea that 1000 tonnes of _ not great reading? the idea that 1000 tonnes of subsidised - not great reading? the idea that 1000 tonnes of subsidised food | not great reading? the idea that. 1000 tonnes of subsidised food has been thrown away in westminster, when there have been hundreds of thousands of families that are having to make that choice between heating and eating. it seems like a really strange thing that they have not thought through what to do with the food waste, because supermarkets, for example, are very alert to the way in which they can redistribute food, for example, that has gone past its sell by date. or, even ready meals, which can be distributed to homeless shelters. at the same time a supermarket is doing this, why has nobody done that within westminster, which isjust one organisation? i really need to have a word with some chiefs of supermarkets to see how it is done. there is a homeless refuge and drop-in — there is a homeless refuge and drop—in centre just opposite my office _ drop—in centre just opposite my office in— drop—in centre just opposite my office in trafalgar square, about
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