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the average "call to answer" time for those asking for help is six and a half minutes — that's 20 times limes longer than the target time. the service aims to answer calls in 20 seconds or less. the war in ukraine leads the financial times — which says a senior russian diplomat has warned moscow sees no possibility of a diplomatic solution, and expects a long conflict. the independent says all wastewater companies in england and wales have failed to reach targets to tackle pollution or sewage floods — with the 11 largest companies monitored by water regulator ofwat togetherfacing millions of pounds in fines. and — the daily mail leads with a new blood tests for the over 50s being trialled by the nhs. trials are underway on the test — which could detect more than 50 types of cancers before symptoms show. researchers says it has
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"enormous" potential. let's begin. good evening to you both. nice to see you. lots of different stories, a variety of front pages. we will start with the front pages. we will start with the front pages. we will start with the front page of the metro, one of the ones to carry tyson fury�*s cousin's killing. geri, talk us through this. this is the knife attack on tyson fury�*s cousin which has caused him to call for tighter controls on knives and tough sentences for knife crime. we have seen rising knife crime. we have seen rising knife crime notjust in london but across the country, this particular incident is in greater manchester, so we know it is notjust contain to the capital and what he said on social media is he would like to see tighter controls, harsher sentences and he says you don't really understand it until it affects you.
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i think this is going to be one of the key issues that will be in the new prime minister's entry on september five. new prime minister's entry on septemberfive. they new prime minister's entry on september five. they will have to put in a plan to tackle knife crime and see if they can bring those incidences down because it is a massive concern to people. the same sto on massive concern to people. the same story on the — massive concern to people. the same story on the front _ massive concern to people. the same story on the front page _ massive concern to people. the same story on the front page of— massive concern to people. the same story on the front page of the - massive concern to people. the same story on the front page of the sun, i story on the front page of the sun, their headline tyson's hell is because knifed to death. it's a tragic individual story but also tyson fury raising the wider issue of wanting harsher punishments and wanting a government plan. yes. of wanting harsher punishments and wanting a government plan.- wanting a government plan. yes, he is auoted wanting a government plan. yes, he is quoted as — wanting a government plan. yes, he is quoted as saying _ wanting a government plan. yes, he is quoted as saying this _ wanting a government plan. yes, he is quoted as saying this is _ wanting a government plan. yes, he is quoted as saying this is becoming | is quoted as saying this is becoming ridiculous, _ is quoted as saying this is becoming ridiculous, idiots carrying knives, this needs — ridiculous, idiots carrying knives, this needs to stop. he claims there is a pandemic in knife crime and says— is a pandemic in knife crime and says you — is a pandemic in knife crime and says you don't know how hard it is until_ says you don't know how hard it is until it _ says you don't know how hard it is until it is — says you don't know how hard it is until it is one _ says you don't know how hard it is until it is one of your own, life is very— until it is one of your own, life is very precious, it can be taken away
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quickly, _ very precious, it can be taken away quickly, enjoy every moment. it reminds— quickly, enjoy every moment. it reminds me of when the actress brooke — reminds me of when the actress brooke kinsella lost her brother in a knifing _ brooke kinsella lost her brother in a knifing incident and we had a whole — a knifing incident and we had a whole campaign against knife crime. it whole campaign against knife crime. it doesn't _ whole campaign against knife crime. it doesn't seem to make that much difference, — it doesn't seem to make that much difference, it doesn't make sufficiently a dent in the number of young _ sufficiently a dent in the number of young men— sufficiently a dent in the number of young men who carry knives and just use them _ young men who carry knives and just use them sensitively. this isjust another— use them sensitively. this isjust another sad story and whether or not, _ another sad story and whether or not. i_ another sad story and whether or not. i hope — another sad story and whether or not, i hope geri is right and it does — not, i hope geri is right and it does end _ not, i hope geri is right and it does end up as something on which the government takes action but i'm not sure _ the government takes action but i'm not sure what that is beyond perhaps having _ not sure what that is beyond perhaps having yet _ not sure what that is beyond perhaps having yet another knife amnesty which _ having yet another knife amnesty which does seem to work for short periods _ which does seem to work for short periods of— which does seem to work for short periods of time. and having harsher sentences— periods of time. and having harsher sentences but often i think the assailants are themselves coming from _ assailants are themselves coming from beleaguered backgrounds with beleaguered background stories. it�*s beleaguered background stories. it's ve beleaguered background stories. it�*s very complex. it is and one of the potential remedies is stop and search, certainly in london. i remember reporting on that, it was a
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dreadful summer of stabbings, seeing one after the other, absolutely horrendous about what it does do is bring up these issues like stop and search which many call for, but it is a hugely controversial measure, geri. , , ., ., , is a hugely controversial measure, geri. , ., , , , geri. yes, it is and that is because often communities _ geri. yes, it is and that is because often communities feel _ geri. yes, it is and that is because often communities feel like - geri. yes, it is and that is because often communities feel like they l geri. yes, it is and that is because l often communities feel like they are targeted by stop and search, that opens up a whole other can of worms where you are talking about police services, especially the met services, especially the met services but something needs to be done about this. there is an issue that reaches out, i am originally from norfolk and now you hearfrom sleepy coastal counties like that that you get these crimes as well. it is clearly not an issue just for london all big cities and as we approach the next election, violent crime will be something that we really do see is a priority for the
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public, they want politicians to tackle it and they want police to be on the ball and cracking down on it. you mentioned it will be in the new prime minister's in trade. let's go to the front page of the financial times, strikes across the country across different industries. the financial times picking up on what has been our lead story, put in a storm, dock workers begin walk—out. shaama, talk us through this. if shaama, talk us through this. if this were labour this would be the summer— this were labour this would be the summer of— this were labour this would be the summer of discontent and i think that is— summer of discontent and i think that is what we are getting under the tories — that is what we are getting under the tories. here we have had tube strikes _ the tories. here we have had tube strikes in _ the tories. here we have had tube strikes in london, rail strikes, the criminai— strikes in london, rail strikes, the criminal barristers are on strike and now— criminal barristers are on strike and now it _ criminal barristers are on strike and now it is port workers in felixstowe. i think it is their first— felixstowe. i think it is their first strike in decades and i think what _ first strike in decades and i think what you — first strike in decades and i think what you are starting to see is a firnranrent. _ what you are starting to see is a firmament, it starting very gently and i_ firmament, it starting very gently and i think— firmament, it starting very gently
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and i think the new leader of the tory— and i think the new leader of the tory party— and i think the new leader of the tory party is going to find themselves taking over in a period of initiativ— themselves taking over in a period of initially legal discontent with strikes — of initially legal discontent with strikes and then, just a general firmament and discontent and i think rather— firmament and discontent and i think rather than _ firmament and discontent and i think rather than getting angry with these strikers _ rather than getting angry with these strikers at _ rather than getting angry with these strikers at felixstowe, we really ought _ strikers at felixstowe, we really ought to— strikers at felixstowe, we really ought to be asking why it is all happening and what can be done to make, _ happening and what can be done to nrake. not— happening and what can be done to make, not necessarily to give them what they— make, not necessarily to give them what they want but to make them happier— what they want but to make them happier with what they get. just on that, geri, happier with what they get. just on that, geri. it— happier with what they get. just on that, geri, it is— happier with what they get. just on that, geri, it is extraordinary, - that, geri, it is extraordinary, shows where we are that 7%, which in any point over the last few years, anyone would have taken as a pay rise but given the rate of inflation, it is not enough according to them.- inflation, it is not enough according to them. no, it's not matching _ according to them. no, it's not matching inflation _ according to them. no, it's not matching inflation and - according to them. no, it's not matching inflation and when i according to them. no, it's notl matching inflation and when the according to them. no, it's not - matching inflation and when the cost of living is racist, you can see why they are calling for that. these are importantjobs. if you look at
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they are calling for that. these are important jobs. if you look at the workers at felixstowe or other sectors that are looking at striking, whether that is the rail strikes, postal workers, striking, whether that is the rail strikes, postalworkers, barristers, civil servants and when you say civil servants and when you say civil servants, civil servants and when you say civilservants, people civil servants and when you say civil servants, people often think people sit at desks in whitehall and create policy but actually those that are looking to strike are the people that process benefits and due taxes at hmrc or run the borders and things like that. it is things that are really important to our society and economy and how to keep running. i think it shows the kind of level of unhappiness across a large range of unhappiness across a large range of sectors that we are seeing such widespread discontent and i actually think what is really interesting is the public sympathy with the strikes. if you listen to any radio call in at the moment, it is much more supportive of strikes then you would have thought about and it is because people are all feeling the pinch and are thinking, if i was in
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their position, if i could strike, i would too. we their position, ifi could strike, i would toe-— their position, ifi could strike, i would too-— their position, ifi could strike, i would too. ~ ., ., , would too. we moved to the daily tele . ra - h would too. we moved to the daily telegraph because _ would too. we moved to the daily telegraph because we _ would too. we moved to the daily telegraph because we have - would too. we moved to the daily telegraph because we have been| telegraph because we have been covering over the last few weeks various stresses and strains of the nhs is under. we have had delays to a&e, delays to add minutes waiting times, now we have nhs 111 patients on hold 20 times too long. shaama, what are the details. this on hold 20 times too long. shaama, what are the details.— what are the details. this is a re ort what are the details. this is a report that — what are the details. this is a report that says _ what are the details. this is a report that says 20 _ what are the details. this is a report that says 20 times - what are the details. this is a - report that says 20 times longer, so they are _ report that says 20 times longer, so they are supposed to answer within a few minutes but they are waiting 6.5 minutes— few minutes but they are waiting 6.5 minutes which doesn't sound a lot but if— minutes which doesn't sound a lot but if you — minutes which doesn't sound a lot but if you are panicked and something is going wrong in front of you in— something is going wrong in front of you in your— something is going wrong in front of you in your home and you desperately need to— you in your home and you desperately need to talk— you in your home and you desperately need to talk to someone, that is not an acceptable wait time. i am the chair— an acceptable wait time. i am the chairof— an acceptable wait time. i am the chair of what is called health watch brent _ chair of what is called health watch brent here, a statutory organisation, there is one in every borough _ organisation, there is one in every borough and we spent our entire time 'ust borough and we spent our entire time just trying _ borough and we spent our entire time just trying to sort out waiting. patients — just trying to sort out waiting. patients are waiting for everything,
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appointments, drugs, forambulances, appointments, drugs, for ambulances, to enter— appointments, drugs, forambulances, to enter hospitals once they are in the ambulances and all of the stories— the ambulances and all of the stories are connected and all of the time that— stories are connected and all of the time that we have no working prime minister. _ time that we have no working prime minister, and all of the time that the tory— minister, and all of the time that the tory party is busily infighting over who — the tory party is busily infighting over who should be the next prime minister. _ over who should be the next prime minister, people are becoming more and more _ minister, people are becoming more and more disengaged and i completely, i think geri is absolutely right, i think the media is misjudging the public mood and i think politicians are misjudging the public— think politicians are misjudging the public mood. we are all feeling the pinch _ public mood. we are all feeling the pinch and _ public mood. we are all feeling the pinch and quite frankly if there are organisations that can create enough tension _ organisations that can create enough tension and ferment to draw attention to that, then they should. the nhs _ attention to that, then they should. the nhs in — attention to that, then they should. the nhs in all of this, for year after— the nhs in all of this, for year after year— the nhs in all of this, for year after year after year has been beleaguered. we are all suffering as a result— beleaguered. we are all suffering as a result and the fact that it takes 6.5 minutes might not seem terrible
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to somebody waiting 11 hours outside the doors _ to somebody waiting 11 hours outside the doors of a&e in an ambulance, but it— the doors of a&e in an ambulance, but it is— the doors of a&e in an ambulance, but it is too— the doors of a&e in an ambulance, but it is too much.— but it is too much. very eloquent, clearly something _ but it is too much. very eloquent, clearly something close _ but it is too much. very eloquent, clearly something close to - but it is too much. very eloquent, clearly something close to your i clearly something close to your heart. thank you. we will leave the uk and go to the front page of the independent, basically concentrate on their picture story. this is the story in moscow of a car bomb that was detonated. geri, i don't know whether you have it there and have the details, just explained what has happened. this the details, 'ust explained what has ha ened. , , the details, 'ust explained what has hauened. , , ., the details, 'ust explained what has ha ened. , , ., ., happened. this is the death of the dau . hter happened. this is the death of the daughter of _ happened. this is the death of the daughter of one _ happened. this is the death of the daughter of one of _ happened. this is the death of the daughter of one of putin's - daughter of one of putin's confidence. i believe he is one of his spiritual advisers actually and she has been caught up in this car bombing. it is understood it was intended for her father and it is the latest in the tension between moscow and ukraine after russia's invasion of ukraine. it reallyjust
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paints a picture of these increasing tensions, it doesn't seem to be any dampening of the aggression that we are seeing and there doesn't seem to be any kind of way through insight at the moment. what we are hearing todayis at the moment. what we are hearing today is that there are talks between putin and zelensky, it doesn't seem to be cooling off so months on from february when it first started, this all continues and it continues to be a tragedy for all those affected.— all those affected. linking back to the front page _ all those affected. linking back to the front page of _ all those affected. linking back to the front page of the _ all those affected. linking back to the front page of the financial i the front page of the financial times, russian diplomat dismisses chance of peace deal. it doesn't look like we will go anywhere quickly with this conflict. absolutely. it says moscow sees no diplomatic— absolutely. it says moscow sees no diplomatic solution and probably we had guess— diplomatic solution and probably we had guess that, but it is concerning
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when _ had guess that, but it is concerning when it— had guess that, but it is concerning when it is— had guess that, but it is concerning when it is confirmed. 0ne had guess that, but it is concerning when it is confirmed. one would like to think— when it is confirmed. one would like to think people are pretending to be trying _ to think people are pretending to be trying to— to think people are pretending to be trying to seek diplomatic solutions. i'm trying to seek diplomatic solutions. i'm not— trying to seek diplomatic solutions. i'm not sure — trying to seek diplomatic solutions. i'm not sure how this bombing will affect— i'm not sure how this bombing will affect things, it seems to me unlikely— affect things, it seems to me unlikely that if the ukrainians are going _ unlikely that if the ukrainians are going to — unlikely that if the ukrainians are going to stop subterfuge in moscow they will— going to stop subterfuge in moscow they will go for a guru. i would have _ they will go for a guru. i would have thought they would go for a politician, — have thought they would go for a politician, but this will be added to that — politician, but this will be added to that litany of complaint and misadventure that is happening in ukraine _ misadventure that is happening in ukraine at— misadventure that is happening in ukraine at the moment. gk. misadventure that is happening in ukraine at the moment.— misadventure that is happening in ukraine at the moment. ok. we will no to the ukraine at the moment. ok. we will go to the front _ ukraine at the moment. ok. we will go to the front page _ ukraine at the moment. ok. we will go to the front page of— ukraine at the moment. ok. we will go to the front page of the - ukraine at the moment. ok. we will go to the front page of the guardian | go to the front page of the guardian now. it's a beautiful picture, geri, but not such a beautiful story. the headline there, swimmers sewage risk due to faults in monitors. it’s due to faults in monitors. it's emerging _ due to faults in monitors. lt�*s emerging scandal this really, the amount of raw sewage pumped into our waters and water companies are allowed to do this when there have been incidences of heavy rain, but
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there is a story that it is approaching 10 million hours of raw sewage being pumped into waters and sport fields. at the same time water company bosses are earning massive salaries and giant bonuses and the regulator is saying if you don't sort out your performance, we will start having a look at that. this story on the guardian saying those monitors that monitor how much of that raw sewage is being pumped into our waters in some cases are not working or do not exist, so numbers could be higher. this is at a time when these water companies are coming under a lot of pressure because we have seen these very dry conditions, we have hosepipe bans come in and the infrastructure that crops up the companies doesn't seem to maintained to the standard that you might expect. i imagine this is at the last of this story and there will be a lot of pressure on them to get things right.
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will be a lot of pressure on them to get things right-— get things right. shaama, the guardian pointing _ get things right. shaama, the guardian pointing out - get things right. shaama, the guardian pointing out that i get things right. shaama, the i guardian pointing out that some holiday—makers could be swimming in it without warning. this is according to announcements by the liberal democrats and lots of people still have holidays to go on. absolutely. we are swimming in it on land as— absolutely. we are swimming in it on land as well— absolutely. we are swimming in it on land as well as at sea. it's a beautiful— land as well as at sea. it's a beautiful photograph, i have friend that lives _ beautiful photograph, i have friend that lives directly opposite the west _ that lives directly opposite the west pier at brighton and what an awful— west pier at brighton and what an awful thought that when you go into the water, _ awful thought that when you go into the water, you may get a mouthful of what you _ the water, you may get a mouthful of what you are — the water, you may get a mouthful of what you are not expecting. 0n the other— what you are not expecting. 0n the other hand. — what you are not expecting. 0n the other hand, very few of us with dirt jump— other hand, very few of us with dirt jump into— other hand, very few of us with dirt jump into our rivers for the same reason _ jump into our rivers for the same reason so — jump into our rivers for the same reason so we shouldn't be surprised that they— reason so we shouldn't be surprised that they are not properly recording what is _ that they are not properly recording what is happening. it is quite clear that the _ what is happening. it is quite clear that the water companies have been letting _ that the water companies have been letting us _ that the water companies have been letting us down, letting themselves down~ _ letting us down, letting themselves down. they borrow, borrow, borrow billions _ down. they borrow, borrow, borrow billions and — down. they borrow, borrow, borrow billions and pay out billions in dividends and meanwhile nothing exactly— dividends and meanwhile nothing exactly happening to improve the
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quality— exactly happening to improve the quality of— exactly happening to improve the quality of the water we have and indeed _ quality of the water we have and indeed in — quality of the water we have and indeed in those areas like mine which _ indeed in those areas like mine which are — indeed in those areas like mine which are going to drought, they do nothing _ which are going to drought, they do nothing about the leaks either. thank— nothing about the leaks either. thank you. i wish we could end on a brighter story but unfortunately not this time. however, we may perhaps have a different mix and a brighter story to end with in the next edition of the papers which is at 11:30pm. do try and join us if you can. for now, goodbye.
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