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hello and welcome to the programme. it brings together some of the best—known british commentators and correspondents to write, blog, podcast and broadcast to audiences back home from the dateline london. —— dateline london. this week, britain's release of has turned up in ukraine, as the country marks the six months as the war began. we now know in the uk how much energy bills will rise in the uk, in october, but not what the new perimeter will do when they take over from boris johnson. where is power going in the uk, in the united states and in
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australia, how, much of it ended up injust the australia, how, much of it ended up in just the hands of one man and injust the hands of one man and his friends? to discuss all of that in the studio, we have a correspondent for the australian newspapers, the age and the sydney morning herald, a writer who has been writing a weekly column for the guardian since 19 87, as a foreign correspondent in the united states, his podcast is called the first draft. lovely to have you all in the dateline studio. this is ourfinal month on air, so all in the dateline studio. this is our final month on air, so we'll make it a good one. polly, let me start with you, with one lick dashed when we left of the voting, how confident and at liz truss�*s supporters, that she will be in at downing street at the beginning of september? downing street at the beginning of se tember? , ,., downing street at the beginning of setember? , , , september? every poll puts her further and _ september? every poll puts her further and further _ september? every poll puts her further and further ahead. - september? every poll puts her further and further ahead. it - september? every poll puts her further and further ahead. it is l september? every poll puts her. further and further ahead. it is the funny little electorate, just 160,000 people for all of the rest of us, it is very bizarre. but she certainly seems to have captivated them. she has played absolutely to them. she has played absolutely to the core of the conservative party. it is very particular and also not necessarily very much like
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conservative voters. far more extreme and we have seen her putting out one policy after another every day, really playing to the right. the question is whether, when she gets in, she is going to have two squares back again. i think you'll find it quite difficult because she has really parts herself out there, and she seems to be about to choose and she seems to be about to choose a cabinet who are going to keep her strapped to the mast. the a cabinet who are going to keep her strapped to the mast.— strapped to the mast. the curious thing about _ strapped to the mast. the curious thing about this _ strapped to the mast. the curious thing about this is _ strapped to the mast. the curious thing about this is that, _ strapped to the mast. the curious thing about this is that, as - strapped to the mast. the curious thing about this is that, as you . thing about this is that, as you said, there is a policy initiative every day to grab the newspaper headlines. we have effectively a manifesto from these guys. they also both saying there are things in the manifesto that were elected on by the general public in 2019 and that they still want to implement, but when you ask about energy bills, he gets told, come back to us in two weeks. . ., weeks. here we are, in the middle of a ureat weeks. here we are, in the middle of a great national _ weeks. here we are, in the middle of a great national emergency, - weeks. here we are, in the middle of a great national emergency, really i a great national emergency, really serious, energy bills up 80%, millions of people destitute, they will talk about anything else except one thing everyone's know. they are not telling their own party and i would have expected those
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conservative party people who won't be affected, to say, but tell us, but some reason they have slipped off. has been irrelevant as a shrine for them. today, not one single government minister or any of the candidates has come out and spoken on this. on the day of a great national emergency. we on this. on the day of a great national emergency.- on this. on the day of a great national emergency. we had some ech-se, national emergency. we had some eclipse. didn't _ national emergency. we had some eclipse, didn't wake _ national emergency. we had some eclipse, didn't wake of _ national emergency. we had some eclipse, didn't wake of the - national emergency. we had some eclipse, didn't wake of the prime l eclipse, didn't wake of the prime minister saying, we are already offering some help and that will come through, but the chancellor saying there will be helped much watch this space, but not actually through proper interviews where you kind of explain what this is going to be. ., ., ., ~ kind of explain what this is going to be. ., ., . ~' . ,., to be. not willing to talk anyone. the dare to be. not willing to talk anyone. they dare not _ to be. not willing to talk anyone. they dare not say _ to be. not willing to talk anyone. they dare not say anything. - to be. not willing to talk anyone. they dare not say anything. the | to be. not willing to talk anyone. i they dare not say anything. the two candidates are terrified because what they would have to say i think that they think wouldn't please the conservative party. they will have to say, we are going to put out a lot more money. they have hinted they were put out more, they will have to do, but they dare not say how much it has got to be because it will have to be a lot, unless they want children starving on the streets. unless they want old people dying. they will have to put a lot
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of money out there, and they had to push up borrowing a huge amount or think that would be the right thing to do, would be to put up taxes. international viewers, we're talking about bills as may 300 british pounds — £500. initially, maybe 500 as the maximum, as the regulator looks again, in a month, on average. but that is on average. in the proportion of people's income, that could be that people are paying 20 or 30% of the money that they have got people living on fixed incomes are lower incomes, there is a greater proportion than they are paying on housing costs and even coming up to the levels they may not be able to afford.— be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of— be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of living. _ be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of living. it _ be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of living. it is _ be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of living. it is it - be able to afford. exactly. i hate this cost of living. it is it too - this cost of living. it is it too easy— this cost of living. it is it too easy catchphrase. the thing about this news— easy catchphrase. the thing about this news that has come out today, we have _ this news that has come out today, we have known it is coming. it underscores how these last weeks,
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months _ underscores how these last weeks, months and a half, almost, there has been no _ months and a half, almost, there has been no effective government. this government which has been in power since _ government which has been in power since 2010, _ government which has been in power since 2010, they talk about the blob. _ since 2010, they talk about the blob, being civil servants, in a functioning government, the department of energy's top minister would _ department of energy's top minister would he _ department of energy's top minister would be taken aside and say, in a 90 days, _ would be taken aside and say, in a 90 days, ofcom is going to have to deal with— 90 days, ofcom is going to have to deal with these price increases, remember that prices are going up because _ remember that prices are going up because russia's got its thumb on europe's— because russia's got its thumb on europe's natural gas supply, and that affects us. the secretary of state _ that affects us. the secretary of state would then come in a conversation with the pro—minister, if there _ conversation with the pro—minister, if there wasn't one who was on holiday— if there wasn't one who was on holiday in— if there wasn't one who was on holiday in greece or another country getting _ holiday in greece or another country getting adulation, he would say, we had better— getting adulation, he would say, we had better get a policy pronto. on this day, — had better get a policy pronto. on this day, there would be a response. it this day, there would be a response. it doesn't _ this day, there would be a response. it doesn't exist. other things... functioning _ it doesn't exist. other things... functioning government don't having
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one! -- _ functioning government don't having one! —— having a functional government! last time i was on the show— government! last time i was on the show we _ government! last time i was on the show we were talking about this. you should _ show we were talking about this. you should never look inside the sausage factory— should never look inside the sausage factory to _ should never look inside the sausage factory to see how sausages are made. — factory to see how sausages are made. and _ factory to see how sausages are made, and one should never look inside _ made, and one should never look inside the — made, and one should never look inside the conservative party to see how they _ inside the conservative party to see how they select their party leader. they should do it more quickly, but leaving _ they should do it more quickly, but leaving that aside, the other thing that is— leaving that aside, the other thing that is happening isjust want to -et that is happening isjust want to get this— that is happening isjust want to get this out. the financial times this week— get this out. the financial times this week has an excellent data analyst— this week has an excellent data analyst in— this week has an excellent data analyst in a john murdoch, he has figured out, going through data, he has got _ figured out, going through data, he has got no — figured out, going through data, he has got no axe to grind, that in the month— has got no axe to grind, that in the month of— has got no axe to grind, that in the month ofjune, there were 2000 excess _ month ofjune, there were 2000 excess deaths in britain, and he has gone _ excess deaths in britain, and he has gone to— excess deaths in britain, and he has gone to all— excess deaths in britain, and he has gone to all the numbers, it has nothing — gone to all the numbers, it has nothing to— gone to all the numbers, it has nothing to do with covid—19, it has to do— nothing to do with covid—19, it has to do with — nothing to do with covid—19, it has to do with the fact that the systems are near— to do with the fact that the systems are near to — to do with the fact that the systems are near to collapse, people are dying _ are near to collapse, people are dying on — are near to collapse, people are dying on trolleys, of cancer because they can't _ dying on trolleys, of cancer because they can't get seen, because of the backlog _ they can't get seen, because of the backlog of— they can't get seen, because of the backlog of the last years, again, a functioning —
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backlog of the last years, again, a functioning government hits this stuff at — functioning government hits this stuff at the pass and at the moment, we do _ stuff at the pass and at the moment, we do not _ stuff at the pass and at the moment, we do not have one. it is stuff at the pass and at the moment, we do not have one.— we do not have one. it is curious this become _ we do not have one. it is curious this become a _ we do not have one. it is curious this become a -- _ we do not have one. it is curious this become a -- because - we do not have one. it is curious i this become a -- because michael this become a —— because michael gove, one of the cabinet ministers who left when borisjohnson was got rid of, he was sacked, he gave a policy exchange speech where he said, the truth is, quite a lot of government at the moment is not functioning. in other words, somehow, they have created a situation, partly because of the political crisis, but more generally, with things like passports, and with some how the political leadership did not seem to be focused on making the machinery worked —— work correctly. it be focused on making the machinery worked -- work correctly.— worked -- work correctly. it was uuite worked -- work correctly. it was quite striking — worked -- work correctly. it was quite striking to _ worked -- work correctly. it was quite striking to hear _ worked -- work correctly. it was quite striking to hear a - quite striking to hear a cabinet minister— quite striking to hear a cabinet minister who _ quite striking to hear a cabinet minister who has _ quite striking to hear a cabinet minister who has been - quite striking to hear a cabinet minister who has been in - quite striking to hear a cabinet minister who has been in the i minister who has been in the government— minister who has been in the government to _ minister who has been in the government to how- minister who has been in the government to how long - minister who has been in the government to how long it i minister who has been in the i government to how long it now? minister who has been in the - government to how long it now? that he hasicaiiy— government to how long it now? that he basically admitted _ government to how long it now? that he basically admitted their— government to how long it now? that he basically admitted their own - he basically admitted their own faiiures— he basically admitted their own failures in— he basically admitted their own failures in supplying _ he basically admitted their own failures in supplying basic- failures in supplying basic services _ failures in supplying basic services. he _ failures in supplying basic services. he is— failures in supplying basic services. he is right, i failures in supplying basic services. he is right, it. failures in supplying basic- services. he is right, it doesn't feel— services. he is right, it doesn't feel like — services. he is right, it doesn't feel like this — services. he is right, it doesn't feel like this has _ services. he is right, it doesn't feel like this has been - services. he is right, it doesn't feel like this has been circa i services. he is right, it doesn't i feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm not— feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm not old — feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm not old enough— feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm not old enough to _ feel like this has been circa 1970. i'm not old enough to rememberl feel like this has been circa 1970. i i'm not old enough to remember that time, _ i'm not old enough to remember that time, clearly! — i'm not old enough to remember that time, clearly! 38. _ i'm not old enough to remember that time, clearly! 38, i've _ i'm not old enough to remember that time, clearly! 38, i've never- i'm not old enough to remember that time, clearly! 38, i've never lived i time, clearly! 38, i've never lived through— time, clearly! 38, i've never lived through a— time, clearly! 38, i've never lived through a recession _ time, clearly! 38, i've never lived through a recession because i time, clearly! 38, i've never lived through a recession because theyj through a recession because they grow— through a recession because they grow in_ through a recession because they grow in australia. _ through a recession because they grow in australia. you _ through a recession because they grow in australia.— grow in australia. you don't have them?! thanks _ grow in australia. you don't have them?! thanks to _ grow in australia. you don't have them?! thanks to our— grow in australia. you don't have them?! thanks to our digging i
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grow in australia. you don't have them?! thanks to our digging up j grow in australia. you don't have i them?! thanks to our digging up of fossil fuels and _ them?! thanks to our digging up of fossil fuels and selling _ them?! thanks to our digging up of fossil fuels and selling them - them?! thanks to our digging up of fossil fuels and selling them to i them?! thanks to our digging up of fossil fuels and selling them to the | fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of— fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the — fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the world. _ fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the world. this _ fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the world. this is _ fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the world. this is a - fossil fuels and selling them to the rest of the world. this is a very i rest of the world. this is a very alarming — rest of the world. this is a very alarming time _ rest of the world. this is a very alarming time and _ rest of the world. this is a very alarming time and it _ rest of the world. this is a very alarming time and it does i rest of the world. this is a very alarming time and it does feell rest of the world. this is a very i alarming time and it does feel like the government— alarming time and it does feel like the government here _ alarming time and it does feel like the government here is _ alarming time and it does feel like the government here isjust- alarming time and it does feel like the government here isjust not. alarming time and it does feel like the government here isjust not in| the government here isjust not in control _ the government here isjust not in control. worse, _ the government here isjust not in control. worse, not _ the government here isjust not in control. worse, not interested i the government here isjust not in control. worse, not interested inl control. worse, not interested in listening — control. worse, not interested in listening and _ control. worse, not interested in listening and talking _ control. worse, not interested in listening and talking to _ control. worse, not interested in listening and talking to the - listening and talking to the community— listening and talking to the community about - listening and talking to the community about the i listening and talking to the community about the veryl listening and talking to the - community about the very genuine fears _ community about the very genuine fears i'm — community about the very genuine fears~ i'm not— community about the very genuine fears i'm not a— community about the very genuine fears. i'm not a journalist - community about the very genuine fears. i'm not a journalist who i fears. i'm not a journalist who likes— fears. i'm not a journalist who likes to — fears. i'm not a journalist who likes to sensationalise - fears. i'm not a journalist who likes to sensationalise or- fears. i'm not a journalist whol likes to sensationalise or alarm unnecessarily, _ likes to sensationalise or alarm unnecessarily, but— likes to sensationalise or alarm unnecessarily, but i— likes to sensationalise or alarm unnecessarily, but i do- likes to sensationalise or alarm unnecessarily, but i do feel- likes to sensationalise or alarm| unnecessarily, but i do feel like today— unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was— unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was a _ unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was a real _ unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was a real line _ unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was a real line in - unnecessarily, but i do feel like today was a real line in the i unnecessarily, but i do feel likel today was a real line in the sand where _ today was a real line in the sand where people _ today was a real line in the sand where people are _ today was a real line in the sand where people are frightened. i today was a real line in the sand i where people are frightened. find where people are frightened. and those things _ where people are frightened. those things will have to where people are frightened. aim} those things will have to be addressed come the fifth, 6th of september when the new prime minister takes over. on this campaign, what is fascinating about how this trust has positioned herself as she is the longest serving cabinet minister but she seems to have defined herself as the outsider. rishi sunak has been a bit left behind in that. —— liz truss. the great and in that conservatives talk about, almost in hushed tones, is so crosby, the australian strategist, do you detect his hand in this? is he one of those people
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influencing these sparring political strategies? hat influencing these sparring political strateuies? ., ~ _ , strategies? not mr crosby himself, but linton was _ strategies? not mr crosby himself, but linton was in _ strategies? not mr crosby himself, but linton was in partnership i strategies? not mr crosby himself, but linton was in partnership with l strategies? not mr crosby himself, j but linton was in partnership with a couple _ but linton was in partnership with a couple of— but linton was in partnership with a couple of gentlemen, _ but linton was in partnership with a couple of gentlemen, one - but linton was in partnership with a couple of gentlemen, one of- but linton was in partnership with a couple of gentlemen, one of whichl but linton was in partnership with a. couple of gentlemen, one of which is running _ couple of gentlemen, one of which is running liz— couple of gentlemen, one of which is running liz a's — couple of gentlemen, one of which is running liz a's campaign. _ couple of gentlemen, one of which is running liz a's campaign. i— couple of gentlemen, one of which is running liz a's campaign. i think- running liz a's campaign. i think you could — running liz a's campaign. i think you could say— running liz a's campaign. i think you could say that _ running liz a's campaign. i think you could say that there - running liz a's campaign. i think you could say that there is - running liz a's campaign. i think you could say that there is a i you could say that there is a legacy there _ you could say that there is a legacy there mark— you could say that there is a legacy there mark is— you could say that there is a legacy there. mark is destined _ you could say that there is a legacy there. mark is destined to- you could say that there is a legacy there. mark is destined to go- you could say that there is a legacy there. mark is destined to go into. there. mark is destined to go into number— there. mark is destined to go into number ten — there. mark is destined to go into number ten as— there. mark is destined to go into numberten as chief— there. mark is destined to go into number ten as chief of— there. mark is destined to go into number ten as chief of staff, i there. mark is destined to go into . number ten as chief of staff, should liz truss— number ten as chief of staff, should liz truss be — number ten as chief of staff, should liz truss be victorious. _ number ten as chief of staff, should liz truss be victorious. i— number ten as chief of staff, should liz truss be victorious. i think - liz truss be victorious. i think sometimes _ liz truss be victorious. ! think sometimes though— liz truss be victorious. i think sometimes though there i liz truss be victorious. i think sometimes though there is i liz truss be victorious. i think sometimes though there is a i liz truss be victorious. i think i sometimes though there is a little bit of— sometimes though there is a little bit of exaggeration... _ sometimes though there is a little bit of exaggeration... about - sometimes though there is a little bit of exaggeration... about the l bit of exaggeration... about the wonderful— bit of exaggeration... about the wonderful wizardry _ bit of exaggeration... about the wonderful wizardry effects - bit of exaggeration... about the wonderful wizardry effects of i bit of exaggeration... about the i wonderful wizardry effects of lynton crosby _ wonderful wizardry effects of lynton crosby he — wonderful wizardry effects of lynton crosby. he basically— wonderful wizardry effects of lynton crosby. he basically made - wonderful wizardry effects of lynton crosby. he basically made a - crosby. he basically made a political— crosby. he basically made a political kind _ crosby. he basically made a political kind of— crosby. he basically made a political kind of strategy- crosby. he basically made a political kind of strategy out crosby. he basically made a i political kind of strategy out of awaiting — political kind of strategy out of awaiting a _ political kind of strategy out of awaiting a community, - political kind of strategy out of| awaiting a community, seeking division — awaiting a community, seeking division lines _ awaiting a community, seeking division lines and _ awaiting a community, seeking division lines and relentlessly. division lines and relentlessly prosecuting _ division lines and relentlessly prosecuting them. _ division lines and relentlessly prosecuting them. i- division lines and relentlessly prosecuting them. i haven't l division lines and relentlessly- prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss— prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do— prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do as _ prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do as much _ prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do as much of _ prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do as much of that - prosecuting them. i haven't seen a liz truss do as much of that this i liz truss do as much of that this campaign — liz truss do as much of that this campaign-— campaign. but she has been quite aood at campaign. but she has been quite good at defining _ campaign. but she has been quite good at defining her _ campaign. but she has been quite good at defining her opponent i campaign. but she has been quite | good at defining her opponent and putting him on terms that are not flattering to him, but then she —— he ends up having to defend his reputation. i
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he ends up having to defend his reputation-— reputation. i think this is where l nton reputation. i think this is where lynton crosby _ reputation. i think this is where lynton crosby may _ reputation. i think this is where lynton crosby may come i reputation. i think this is where lynton crosby may come in, i reputation. i think this is where i lynton crosby may come in, because that damage — lynton crosby may come in, because that damage has _ lynton crosby may come in, because that damage has been _ lynton crosby may come in, because that damage has been mainly- lynton crosby may come in, because that damage has been mainly done l lynton crosby may come in, becausel that damage has been mainly done by borisjohnson — that damage has been mainly done by borisjohnson and _ that damage has been mainly done by boris johnson and his _ that damage has been mainly done by boris johnson and his supporters - that damage has been mainly done by boris johnson and his supporters who| boris johnson and his supporters who are quite _ boris johnson and his supporters who are quite shirty~ _ boris johnson and his supporters who are quite shifty-— are quite shirty. steering well clear of this _ are quite shirty. steering well clear of this one _ are quite shirty. steering well clear of this one because - are quite shirty. steering well clear of this one because she | are quite shirty. steering well. clear of this one because she is are quite shirty. steering well - clear of this one because she is not at all popular. she is going to win because of her tiny conservative party choosing her, she not popular with her own only 50 of her chose death make 50 of them chose her. she is not popular with conservative voters and her lack of policy on this critical question. sol voters and her lack of policy on this critical question. so i think nobody wants to say, i ran this campaign because it has not been a very good one. its, campaign because it has not been a very good one-— campaign because it has not been a very good one. a mark of valediction for boris johnson, _ very good one. a mark of valediction for boris johnson, hinted _ very good one. a mark of valediction for boris johnson, hinted at - very good one. a mark of valediction for boris johnson, hinted at it, - for borisjohnson, hinted at it, michael, and i mentioned it at the top, his farewell tour of kyiv, where he was given a presidential award, most likely hollywood hall of fame —— walk of fame, he got a flagstone on the pavement. in his
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farewell remarks there, he made the point is that we are paying high energy prices because of this war, but the sacrifice by the ukrainians is greater, of course it is, it is a blood sacrifice. it is the fundamental existence of the country, or not, but i wonder whether at some point, that problem is going to become more acute, where people actually, yes, we are paying the higher bills, we have the sanctions, but it doesn't seem to be bringing the war to a rapid conclusion.— bringing the war to a rapid conclusion. ., , , ., conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea, conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea. maybe _ conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea. maybe for — conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea, maybe for the _ conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea, maybe for the ones - conclusion. going to kyiv is a good idea, maybe for the ones sitting i conclusion. going to kyiv is a good| idea, maybe for the ones sitting on earth, _ idea, maybe for the ones sitting on earth, he _ idea, maybe for the ones sitting on earth, he will have a monument to himsetfm — earth, he will have a monument to himself... and there are these bloodlines that go deep into... he miqht— bloodlines that go deep into... he might one — bloodlines that go deep into... he might one day clean, well actually, my grandmother the slave girl, that he was _ my grandmother the slave girl, that he was talked about, actually did time _ he was talked about, actually did time in _ he was talked about, actually did time in crimea, so i'm a ukrainian citizeh _ time in crimea, so i'm a ukrainian citizeh he— time in crimea, so i'm a ukrainian citizen. he will challenge zelensky for the _ citizen. he will challenge zelensky for the presidency! citizen. he will challenge zelensky forthe presidency! no, i'mjust iokihq —
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forthe presidency! no, i'mjust joking. what is happening now is it is clear— joking. what is happening now is it is clear that — joking. what is happening now is it is clear that we are heading into a world _ is clear that we are heading into a world war— is clear that we are heading into a world war i — is clear that we are heading into a world war i situation, this will not be resolved. it simply isn't, russia can empty— be resolved. it simply isn't, russia can empty its presence and gets two weeks _ can empty its presence and gets two weeks of— can empty its presence and gets two weeks of training with the wagner qroup, _ weeks of training with the wagner group, they still can't take the country— group, they still can't take the country foot of it is a big country and they— country foot of it is a big country and they don't have enough men under arms. _ and they don't have enough men under arms. they— and they don't have enough men under arms, they don't have enough elements— arms, they don't have enough elements to take the country. we are going _ elements to take the country. we are going to _ elements to take the country. we are going to see — elements to take the country. we are going to see this stalemate. clearly. _ going to see this stalemate. clearly, val amir putin is betting not clearly, val amir putin is betting hotiust— clearly, val amir putin is betting hotiust on— clearly, val amir putin is betting notjust on britain's but also of western— notjust on britain's but also of western europe to get its natural -as western europe to get its natural gas from — western europe to get its natural gas from russia. —— vladimir putin. sometime _ gas from russia. —— vladimir putin. sometime in— gas from russia. —— vladimir putin. sometime in december, saying, ouch. a demanding that ukrainian government somehow come to an accommodation. i'm not sure. i'll tell accommodation. i'm not sure. i'll tettyou _ accommodation. i'm not sure. i'll tell you why, there are two things, firstly. _ tell you why, there are two things, firstly. me — tell you why, there are two things, firstly, me being hopelessly naive, ithink— firstly, me being hopelessly naive, i think there are enough stories out about— i think there are enough stories out about the _ i think there are enough stories out about the grotesque atrocities that the russian forces are creating and
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ithink— the russian forces are creating and ithihk it _ the russian forces are creating and i think it does offend western liberat— i think it does offend western liberal sensibility, if there is such— liberal sensibility, if there is such a — liberal sensibility, if there is such a thing, liberal sensibility, that might still return the can services — that might still return the can services to government in 2024. when i say services to government in 2024. when tsay liberat— services to government in 2024. when i say liberal sense ability, people 'ust i say liberal sense ability, people just don't... you can't take 1000 chitdreh— just don't... you can't take 1000 children and _ just don't... you can't take 1000 children and stick them deep into siberia _ children and stick them deep into siberia as — children and stick them deep into siberia as hostages, which is... you can't _ siberia as hostages, which is... you can't do _ siberia as hostages, which is... you can't do that — siberia as hostages, which is... you can't do that. the other thing, it is more — can't do that. the other thing, it is more recent and dangerous, is the situation _ is more recent and dangerous, is the situation of _ is more recent and dangerous, is the situation of the nuclear power station — situation of the nuclear power station if_ situation of the nuclear power station. if anything goes wrong there. — station. if anything goes wrong there, and a few days ago, there were _ there, and a few days ago, there were reports that there was no electricity— were reports that there was no electricity getting in, you had to -et electricity getting in, you had to get a _ electricity getting in, you had to get a letter to see getting in to keep— get a letter to see getting in to keep the — get a letter to see getting in to keep the fuel rods cooled down. to -et keep the fuel rods cooled down. to get fuet~ _ keep the fuel rods cooled down. to get fuel. otherwise you get to get fuel. otherwise you get to noble too, but — fuel. otherwise you get to noble too, but on a much bigger... than it overheats and _ too, but on a much bigger... than it overheats and explodes? _ too, but on a much bigger... than it overheats and explodes? -- - overheats and explodes? -- chernobyl- _ overheats and explodes? —— chernobyl. this is something no one wants. _ chernobyl. this is something no one wants. but— chernobyl. this is something no one wants. but it — chernobyl. this is something no one wants, but it happens, russia will carry— wants, but it happens, russia will carry that — wants, but it happens, russia will carrythat i— wants, but it happens, russia will carry that. i think come december cahute _ carry that. i think come december canute january, when putin would hope _ canute january, when putin would hope that — canute january, when putin would hope that euro as its queen, it may
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not happen, — hope that euro as its queen, it may not happen, but i wouldn't firmly bet on _ not happen, but i wouldn't firmly bet on it — not happen, but i wouldn't firmly bet on it -- _ not happen, but i wouldn't firmly bet on it. —— europe. people will be trying _ bet on it. —— europe. people will be trying to— bet on it. —— europe. people will be trying to shaping a tremendous matter— trying to shaping a tremendous matter of— trying to shaping a tremendous matter of money... trying to shaping a tremendous matter of money. . ._ trying to shaping a tremendous matter of money... western leaders, back and say — matter of money... western leaders, back and say it _ matter of money... western leaders, back and say it is _ matter of money... western leaders, back and say it is cold, _ matter of money... western leaders, back and say it is cold, it _ matter of money... western leaders, back and say it is cold, it is _ matter of money... western leaders, back and say it is cold, it is too - back and say it is cold, it is too expensive, we can't pay the cost. then whether they go? what do they do next? today put pressure on the ukrainians to give up donbas? how do they account to their own voters? i think it is unthinkable. it may be that the ukrainians themselves at some point decide to settle. but i do not think that it will be that the west or europe will pull the rug from them. , ~ the west or europe will pull the rug from them-— the west or europe will pull the rug from them. , ~' g ., �* .,, from them. this week, joe biden has been getting — from them. this week, joe biden has been getting some _ from them. this week, joe biden has been getting some stuff _ from them. this week, joe biden has been getting some stuff done, - been getting some stuff done, announced that he was committing to several— announced that he was committing to several billion dollars in aid, that is a lot— several billion dollars in aid, that is a lot of— several billion dollars in aid, that is a lot of aid to throw forward and
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commit _ is a lot of aid to throw forward and commit the — is a lot of aid to throw forward and commit the next congress in two, when _ commit the next congress in two, when he _ commit the next congress in two, when he is — commit the next congress in two, when he is not sure he is going to have _ when he is not sure he is going to have control— when he is not sure he is going to have control of congress. this is him putting a marker down to the western— him putting a marker down to the western alliance are well —— the western — western alliance are well —— the western alliance are well —— the western alliance as well full stop i doubt _ western alliance as well full stop i doubt very much that the pain reported — doubt very much that the pain reported from ukraine a couple of times— reported from ukraine a couple of times -- — reported from ukraine a couple of times -- i— reported from ukraine a couple of times —— i have reported from there a couple _ times —— i have reported from there a couple of— times —— i have reported from there a couple of times men as a nation beinq _ a couple of times men as a nation being born, — a couple of times men as a nation being born, which is the amazing thinq~ _ being born, which is the amazing thinq~ 32— being born, which is the amazing thint. i: , ., , ., being born, which is the amazing thin. x: , ., , ., | being born, which is the amazing thing._ i cannot. thing. 32 years after. i cannot imaaine thing. 32 years after. i cannot imagine them _ thing. 32 years after. i cannot imagine them ever _ thing. 32 years after. i cannot imagine them ever suing. - thing. 32 years after. i cannot l imagine them ever suing. they thing. 32 years after. i cannot - imagine them ever suing. they will have to _ imagine them ever suing. they will have to be — imagine them ever suing. they will have to be dragged, kicking and screaming and that might happen, but the ukrainians themselves want to rush out — the ukrainians themselves want to rush out. even russian speaking peoptem — rush out. even russian speaking people... they don't want this. they don't _ people... they don't want this. they don't want _ people... they don't want this. they don't want the aggression that has visited _ don't want the aggression that has visited them and they do not want the destruction of their cities. it the destruction of their cities. [it has the destruction of their cities. has to end the destruction of their cities. it has to end sometime, one way or
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another, whether in five years or god help us in a ten years. they will have to end somehow, as you say, it is a stalemate. it will have to end somehow, as you say, it is a stalemate.— say, it is a stalemate. it could be for a very — say, it is a stalemate. it could be for a very long — say, it is a stalemate. it could be for a very long time. _ say, it is a stalemate. it could be for a very long time. i _ say, it is a stalemate. it could be for a very long time. i think - say, it is a stalemate. it could bej for a very long time. i think there is another — for a very long time. i think there is another conversation _ for a very long time. i think there is another conversation to - for a very long time. i think there is another conversation to add . for a very long time. i think there is another conversation to add to | is another conversation to add to this mix. — is another conversation to add to this mix, though, _ is another conversation to add to this mix, though, and— is another conversation to add to this mix, though, and that - is another conversation to add to this mix, though, and that this. this mix, though, and that this energy— this mix, though, and that this energy crisis _ this mix, though, and that this energy crisis did _ this mix, though, and that this energy crisis did not _ this mix, though, and that this energy crisis did not just - this mix, though, and that this. energy crisis did notjust happen because — energy crisis did notjust happen because of— energy crisis did notjust happen because of putin. _ energy crisis did notjust happen because of putin. this _ energy crisis did notjust happen because of putin. this energy. energy crisis did notjust happen i because of putin. this energy crisis happened _ because of putin. this energy crisis happened because _ because of putin. this energy crisis happened because we _ because of putin. this energy crisis happened because we have - because of putin. this energy crisis happened because we have failed l because of putin. this energy crisisl happened because we have failed to transition _ happened because we have failed to transition our — happened because we have failed to transition our economy— happened because we have failed to transition our economy to _ happened because we have failed to. transition our economy to renewables where _ transition our economy to renewables where we _ transition our economy to renewables where we could — transition our economy to renewables where we could have _ transition our economy to renewables where we could have actually - transition our economy to renewables where we could have actually had - where we could have actually had some _ where we could have actually had some independent _ where we could have actually had some independent energy- where we could have actually had l some independent energy security i’ilht some independent energy security right now — some independent energy security right now i— some independent energy security right now. ithink— some independent energy security right now. i think you'll— some independent energy security right now. i think you'll see - some independent energy security right now. i think you'll see two i right now. i think you'll see two things— right now. i think you'll see two things happen, _ right now. i think you'll see two things happen, i_ right now. i think you'll see two things happen, i think- right now. i think you'll see two things happen, i think the - right now. i think you'll see twoj things happen, i think the short term, _ things happen, i think the short term, you — things happen, i think the short term. you will— things happen, i think the short term, you will see _ things happen, i think the short term, you will see countries- things happen, i think the short| term, you will see countries like mine, _ term, you will see countries like mine, australia, _ term, you will see countries like mine, australia, just _ term, you will see countries like mine, australia, just opening i term, you will see countries likej mine, australia, just opening up under— mine, australia, just opening up under new— mine, australia, just opening up under new labour— mine, australia, just opening up under new labour government, i mine, australia, just opening up- under new labour government, after another— under new labour government, after another climate _ under new labour government, after another climate change _ under new labour government, after another climate change election, - another climate change election, 'ust another climate change election, just opened _ another climate change election, iust opened up— another climate change election, just opened up ten _ another climate change election, just opened up ten new- another climate change election, just opened up ten new sites - another climate change election, just opened up ten new sites for| just opened up ten new sites for offshore — just opened up ten new sites for offshore qas _ just opened up ten new sites for offshore gas drilling, _ just opened up ten new sites for offshore gas drilling, so - just opened up ten new sites for offshore gas drilling, so in - just opened up ten new sites for offshore gas drilling, so in shortj offshore gas drilling, so in short time, _ offshore gas drilling, so in short time, i— offshore gas drilling, so in short time, ithink— offshore gas drilling, so in short time, i think you _ offshore gas drilling, so in short time, i think you will— offshore gas drilling, so in short time, i think you will see, - offshore gas drilling, so in short. time, i think you will see, maybe, 'ust time, i think you will see, maybe, just a _ time, i think you will see, maybe, just a bit— time, i think you will see, maybe, just a bit more _ time, i think you will see, maybe, just a bit more fossil— time, i think you will see, maybe, just a bit more fossil fuels, - time, i think you will see, maybe, just a bit more fossil fuels, until. just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can— just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can get— just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can get to _ just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can get to things _ just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can get to things like - just a bit more fossil fuels, until we can get to things like green. we can get to things like green hydroqen _ we can get to things like green hydroqen and _ we can get to things like green hydrogen. and so, _ we can get to things like green hydrogen. and so, i— we can get to things like green hydrogen. and so, ithink- we can get to things like green. hydrogen. and so, i think you're going _ hydrogen. and so, i think you're going to — hydrogen. and so, i think you're going to have _ hydrogen. and so, i think you're going to have two _ hydrogen. and so, i think you're going to have two different - going to have two different conversations _ going to have two different conversations happening, i going to have two different - conversations happening, parallel, in tandem, — conversations happening, parallel, in tandem, because _ conversations happening, parallel, in tandem, because of _ conversations happening, parallel, in tandem, because of the - conversations happening, parallel, in tandem, because of the same . in tandem, because of the same crisis~ _ in tandem, because of the same crisis. so— in tandem, because of the same crisis. �* , ., ~ in tandem, because of the same crisis. �*, ., ,, ., ,., crisis. so let's talk about your country and — crisis. so let's talk about your country and these _ crisis. so let's talk about your country and these political - crisis. so let's talk about your - country and these political events. i saw, thursday,
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country and these political events. isaw, thursday, i country and these political events. i saw, thursday, i think it was described as a mini constitutional crisis, not about the current prime minister, but the last prime minister, but the last prime minister and what he was doing during covid—i9. it is minister and what he was doing during covid-19._ minister and what he was doing during covid-19. it is the most wild sto to during covid-19. it is the most wild story to come _ during covid-19. it is the most wild story to come out. _ during covid-19. it is the most wild story to come out. scott _ during covid-19. it is the most wild story to come out. scott morrison. story to come out. scott morrison decided _ story to come out. scott morrison decided at _ story to come out. scott morrison decided at the — story to come out. scott morrison decided at the beginning - story to come out. scott morrison decided at the beginning of- story to come out. scott morrison decided at the beginning of a - decided at the beginning of a pandemic— decided at the beginning of a pandemic to _ decided at the beginning of a pandemic to sign _ decided at the beginning of a pandemic to sign him - decided at the beginning of a pandemic to sign him into. decided at the beginning of a - pandemic to sign him into another coupte _ pandemic to sign him into another coupte of— pandemic to sign him into another couple of ministerial— pandemic to sign him into another couple of ministerial portfolios, i couple of ministerial portfolios, not telling _ couple of ministerial portfolios, not telling his _ couple of ministerial portfolios, not telling his colleagues - couple of ministerial portfolios, not telling his colleagues that l couple of ministerial portfolios, . not telling his colleagues that he had signed — not telling his colleagues that he had signed them _ not telling his colleagues that he had signed them in. _ not telling his colleagues that he had signed them in. the - not telling his colleagues that he had signed them in. the health i had signed them in. the health ministry. — had signed them in. the health ministry. the _ had signed them in. the health ministry, the ag _ had signed them in. the health ministry, the ag and _ had signed them in. the health ministry, the ag and then, - had signed them in. the health ministry, the ag and then, a i had signed them in. the health . ministry, the ag and then, a year later, _ ministry, the ag and then, a year later, he — ministry, the ag and then, a year later, he decides— ministry, the ag and then, a year later, he decides to _ ministry, the ag and then, a year later, he decides to go _ ministry, the ag and then, a year later, he decides to go and - ministry, the ag and then, a year. later, he decides to go and secretly siqned _ later, he decides to go and secretly siqned himself— later, he decides to go and secretly signed himself into _ later, he decides to go and secretly signed himself into a _ later, he decides to go and secretly signed himself into a few— later, he decides to go and secretly signed himself into a few more - signed himself into a few more ministerial— signed himself into a few more ministerialjobs _ signed himself into a few more ministerialjobs without - signed himself into a few more ministerialjobs without telling | ministerialjobs without telling those — ministerialjobs without telling those ministers _ ministerialjobs without telling those ministers who _ ministerialjobs without telling those ministers who only - ministerialjobs without telling those ministers who onlyjust. ministerialjobs without telling - those ministers who onlyjust learnt a coupte _ those ministers who onlyjust learnt a coupte of — those ministers who onlyjust learnt a couple of weeks _ those ministers who onlyjust learnt a couple of weeks before, _ those ministers who onlyjust learnt a couple of weeks before, when- those ministers who onlyjust learnt i a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison _ a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison decides _ a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison decides to _ a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison decides to buddy _ a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison decides to buddy up - a couple of weeks before, when scott morrison decides to buddy up with . morrison decides to buddy up with one of— morrison decides to buddy up with one of his — morrison decides to buddy up with one of his favourite _ morrison decides to buddy up with one of his favourite journalists - morrison decides to buddy up with one of his favourite journalists for| one of his favourite journalists for a new _ one of his favourite journalists for a new book. — one of his favourite journalists for a new book, telling _ one of his favourite journalists for a new book, telling him _ one of his favourite journalists for a new book, telling him about. one of his favourite journalists for| a new book, telling him about how great _ a new book, telling him about how great he _ a new book, telling him about how great he was, _ a new book, telling him about how great he was, and _ a new book, telling him about how great he was, and how— a new book, telling him about how great he was, and how managed . a new book, telling him about howl great he was, and how managed —— a new book, telling him about how- great he was, and how managed —— how he managed _ great he was, and how managed —— how he managed the — great he was, and how managed —— how he managed the pandemic— great he was, and how managed —— how he managed the pandemic so— great he was, and how managed —— how he managed the pandemic so well! - he managed the pandemic so well! that was— he managed the pandemic so well! that was a — he managed the pandemic so well! that was a bombshell— he managed the pandemic so well! that was a bombshell in _ he managed the pandemic so well! that was a bombshell in australia, | that was a bombshell in australia, as you _ that was a bombshell in australia, as you can— that was a bombshell in australia, as you can imagine. _ that was a bombshell in australia, as you can imagine. it— that was a bombshell in australia, as you can imagine.— as you can imagine. it was completely _ as you can imagine. it was| completely unprecedented. as you can imagine. it was - completely unprecedented. but as you can imagine. it was _ completely unprecedented. but what does it matter? the completely unprecedented. but what does it matter?— does it matter? the secrecy that must have _ does it matter? the secrecy that must have been _ does it matter? the secrecy that must have been involved?! - must have been involved?! absolutely.—
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must have been involved?! absolutel. , , ., ., absolutely. can't they 'ust have a few beers in t absolutely. can't theyjust have a few beers in canberra?! - absolutely. can't theyjust have a few beers in canberra?! australia was very locked _ few beers in canberra?! australia was very locked down. _ few beers in canberra?! australia was very locked down. people - few beers in canberra?! australia| was very locked down. people did few beers in canberra?! australia - was very locked down. people did not travel— was very locked down. people did not travel for— was very locked down. people did not travel for two — was very locked down. people did not travel for two years. _ was very locked down. people did not travel for two years. so _ was very locked down. people did not travel for two years. so he _ was very locked down. people did not travel for two years. so he was - travel for two years. so he was allowed — travel for two years. so he was allowed to _ travel for two years. so he was allowed to get _ travel for two years. so he was allowed to get away— travel for two years. so he was allowed to get away with - travel for two years. so he was allowed to get away with this l allowed to get away with this incredible _ allowed to get away with this incredible power— allowed to get away with this incredible power grab. - allowed to get away with this incredible power grab. in- allowed to get away with this - incredible power grab. in context, he is _ incredible power grab. in context, he is very— incredible power grab. in context, he is very disliked _ incredible power grab. in context, he is very disliked from _ incredible power grab. in context, he is very disliked from his - incredible power grab. in context, he is very disliked from his own i he is very disliked from his own cotteaques _ he is very disliked from his own colleagues and _ he is very disliked from his own colleagues and you _ he is very disliked from his own colleagues and you have - he is very disliked from his own colleagues and you have seen i he is very disliked from his own i colleagues and you have seen lots he is very disliked from his own - colleagues and you have seen lots of those _ colleagues and you have seen lots of those colleagues, _ colleagues and you have seen lots of those colleagues, including - colleagues and you have seen lots of those colleagues, including one - those colleagues, including one minister. — those colleagues, including one minister. he— those colleagues, including one minister, he belatedly- those colleagues, including one minister, he belatedly found . those colleagues, including one| minister, he belatedly found out those colleagues, including one - minister, he belatedly found out he was also _ minister, he belatedly found out he was also her— minister, he belatedly found out he was also her position, _ minister, he belatedly found out he was also her position, calling - minister, he belatedly found out he was also her position, calling for. was also her position, calling for him to— was also her position, calling for him to quit — was also her position, calling for him to quit the _ was also her position, calling for him to quit the panel— was also her position, calling for him to quit the panel is- was also her position, calling for him to quit the panel is because | was also her position, calling for- him to quit the panel is because now he has _ him to quit the panel is because now he has been — him to quit the panel is because now he has been asked _ him to quit the panel is because now he has been asked out— him to quit the panel is because now he has been asked out of— him to quit the panel is because now. he has been asked out of government, he has been asked out of government, he is still— he has been asked out of government, he is still an— he has been asked out of government, he is stittan mp— he has been asked out of government, he is still an mp on _ he has been asked out of government, he is still an mp on the _ he has been asked out of government, he is still an mp on the back— he has been asked out of government, he is still an mp on the back bench. i he is still an mp on the back bench. isaw— he is still an mp on the back bench. i saw a _ he is still an mp on the back bench. i saw a quote — he is still an mp on the back bench. i saw a quote from _ he is still an mp on the back bench. i saw a quote from the _ he is still an mp on the back bench. i saw a quote from the sister- i saw a quote from the sister general that stephen donoghue, speaking in the week, and that it is impossible for the pilot ministers to account if it does not know which ministers are responsible for which department. that kind of sums it up, doesn't it? taste department. that kind of sums it up, doesn't it? ~ .., ~ department. that kind of sums it up, doesn't it? ~ ~ ., ., doesn't it? we can kind of imagine boris johnson _ doesn't it? we can kind of imagine boris johnson saying, _ doesn't it? we can kind of imagine boris johnson saying, i— doesn't it? we can kind of imagine boris johnson saying, i have - doesn't it? we can kind of imagine boris johnson saying, i have that l borisjohnson saying, i have that one at... and liz truss, saying, why do i have to have these other cabinet ministers, i can do it all?!
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there is that power grab instincts around in the air at the moment, you can imagine donald trump doing it. constitutionally, there are issues, because the government in general, the queen's presented in australia, appears to have signed off on these changes but again didn't tell anyone. he changes but again didn't tell an one. . , , . , changes but again didn't tell anone. i, ., anyone. he was secretly sworn in, there are secret _ anyone. he was secretly sworn in, there are secret ceremonies - anyone. he was secretly sworn in, there are secret ceremonies that. there are secret ceremonies that took— there are secret ceremonies that took place — there are secret ceremonies that took place it— there are secret ceremonies that took place it is— there are secret ceremonies that took place. it isjust _ there are secret ceremonies that took place. it isjust so - there are secret ceremonies that took place. it isjust so bizarre, i took place. it isjust so bizarre, the whole — took place. it isjust so bizarre, the whole situation. _ took place. it isjust so bizarre, the whole situation. now, - took place. it isjust so bizarre, the whole situation. now, it. took place. it isjust so bizarre, the whole situation. now, it isi the whole situation. now, it is important _ the whole situation. now, it is important to _ the whole situation. now, it is important to stress _ the whole situation. now, it is important to stress that - the whole situation. now, it is important to stress that he . the whole situation. now, it is| important to stress that he did the whole situation. now, it is- important to stress that he did not do anything — important to stress that he did not do anything illegal. _ important to stress that he did not do anything illegal. he _ important to stress that he did not do anything illegal. he acted - do anything illegal. he acted completely— do anything illegal. he acted completely legally, - do anything illegal. he acted completely legally, he - do anything illegal. he acted completely legally, he is - do anything illegal. he acted - completely legally, he is allowed to do that, _ completely legally, he is allowed to do that, siqned— completely legally, he is allowed to do that, signed himself— completely legally, he is allowed to do that, signed himself into- completely legally, he is allowed to do that, signed himself intojobs, . do that, signed himself intojobs, of course — do that, signed himself intojobs, of course there _ do that, signed himself intojobs, of course there is _ do that, signed himself intojobs, of course there is a _ do that, signed himself intojobs, of course there is a public- of course there is a public expectation _ of course there is a public expectation that- of course there is a public expectation that you - of course there is a public. expectation that you would of course there is a public- expectation that you would tell us this, and — expectation that you would tell us this, and of— expectation that you would tell us this, and of course, _ expectation that you would tell us this, and of course, if— expectation that you would tell us this, and of course, if not- expectation that you would tell us this, and of course, if not the - this, and of course, if not the prime — this, and of course, if not the prime minister, _ this, and of course, if not the prime minister, then- this, and of course, if not the prime minister, then maybe. this, and of course, if not the . prime minister, then maybe the government— prime minister, then maybe the government general— prime minister, then maybe the government general which - prime minister, then maybe the government general which have | prime minister, then maybe the i government general which have —— should _ government general which have —— should have — government general which have —— should have. this _ government general which have —— should have. this is _ government general which have —— should have. this is worrying - should have. this is worrying territory— should have. this is worrying territory because _ should have. this is worrying territory because we - should have. this is worrying territory because we have . should have. this is worrying territory because we have a i territory because we have a different _ territory because we have a different climate, _ territory because we have a different climate, differentl different climate, different landscape _ different climate, different landscape in _ different climate, different landscape in australia - different climate, differentl landscape in australia now, different climate, different - landscape in australia now, under the new— landscape in australia now, under the new labour— landscape in australia now, under the new labour government - landscape in australia now, under the new labour government that. the new labour government that pointed — the new labour government that pointed the _ the new labour government that pointed the first _ the new labour government that pointed the first ever _ the new labour government that pointed the first ever public - pointed the first ever public minister. _ pointed the first ever public minister, in— pointed the first ever public minister, in the _ pointed the first ever public minister, in the second - pointed the first ever public i minister, in the second time, pointed the first ever public - minister, in the second time, they would _ minister, in the second time, they would definitely— minister, in the second time, they would definitely push _ minister, in the second time, they would definitely push forward - minister, in the second time, they would definitely push forward for i minister, in the second time, they| would definitely push forward for a republic _ would definitely push forward for a republic the — would definitely push forward for a republic. the reason _ would definitely push forward for a republic. the reason the _ would definitely push forward for a republic. the reason the monarchy stays— republic. the reason the monarchy stays in— republic. the reason the monarchy stays in australia _ republic. the reason the monarchy stays in australia is _ republic. the reason the monarchy stays in australia is not— republic. the reason the monarchy stays in australia is not because i stays in australia is not because they— stays in australia is not because they really— stays in australia is not because they really love _ stays in australia is not because they really love the _
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stays in australia is not because they really love the monarchy . stays in australia is not because| they really love the monarchy so much. _ they really love the monarchy so much. it — they really love the monarchy so much. it is— they really love the monarchy so much. it isjust— they really love the monarchy so much, it isjust because - they really love the monarchy so much, it isjust because it - they really love the monarchy so much, it isjust because it is - they really love the monarchy so much, it isjust because it is a i much, it isjust because it is a system — much, it isjust because it is a system that— much, it isjust because it is a system that for— much, it isjust because it is a system that for now _ much, it isjust because it is a system that for now is - much, it isjust because it is a system that for now is not - much, it isjust because it is a - system that for now is not broken. so why— system that for now is not broken. so why fix — system that for now is not broken. so why fix something _ system that for now is not broken. so why fix something that - system that for now is not broken. so why fix something that is - system that for now is not broken. so why fix something that is not. so why fix something that is not broken? — so why fix something that is not broken? if— so why fix something that is not broken? if we _ so why fix something that is not broken? if we start _ so why fix something that is not broken? if we start getting - so why fix something that is not broken? if we start getting into| so why fix something that is not. broken? if we start getting into a situation — broken? if we start getting into a situation where _ broken? if we start getting into a situation where the _ broken? if we start getting into a situation where the queen's - situation where the queen's represented... _ situation where the queen's represented... the - situation where the queen's i represented... the neutrality's beqinninq _ represented... the neutrality's beginning to _ represented... the neutrality's beginning to be _ represented... the neutrality's beginning to be questioned - represented... the neutrality's beginning to be questioned ori represented... the neutrality's i beginning to be questioned or the acquittal— beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of— beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of his _ beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of hisjob, _ beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of hisjob, you _ beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of hisjob, you are - beginning to be questioned or the acquittal of hisjob, you are into l acquittal of hisjob, you are into some _ acquittal of hisjob, you are into some really— acquittal of hisjob, you are into some really fertile _ acquittal of hisjob, you are into some really fertile territory. - acquittal of hisjob, you are into. some really fertile territory. tier? some really fertile territory. very interesting. _ some really fertile territory. very interesting. it — some really fertile territory. very interesting, it is _ some really fertile territory. very interesting, it is exactly - some really fertile territory. interesting, it is exactly the some really fertile territory.“ interesting, it is exactly the same here. we have had a prime minister absolutely going rogue, prorogued parliament without. .. absolutely going rogue, prorogued parliament without... against absolutely going rogue, prorogued parliament without. .. against the constitution, we suddenly realised as well that we have a cleaner, there is nobody that stands there as an authority, an elected figure to be the protector of the constitution. —— we have the queen. who does the queen turn to for advice, the prime minister! and it is the prime minister has gone rogue. we know that we are going to realise we need a written constitution as a guarantor of it, a president, as most european countries at... president, as most european countries at. . ._ president, as most european countries at... ~ , ., ., , countries at... the the australians, the government — countries at. .. the the australians, the government general— countries at... the the australians, the government general signing - countries at... the the australians, the government general signing offj the government general signing off on something elected prime minister does, it is not in the league of
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say, excuse the noise in the background, it is not on the same level as the then governor general dismissing the elected government, it is small beer in those terms. yes, in the sense of what boris johnson did is relatively small beer, but he did prorogued parliament against the law, and told the queen it was the right thing to do and told the queen to give him permission to do it. and so, you really do feel you need somebody to be in charge. you really do feel you need somebody to be in charge-— be in charge. you are used to politicians — be in charge. you are used to politicians sort _ be in charge. you are used to politicians sort of _ be in charge. you are used to politicians sort of riding - be in charge. you are used to i politicians sort of riding rough... ! ., politicians sort of riding rough... ! donald trump set the template. i think what is _ ! donald trump set the template. i think what is interesting _ ! donald trump set the template. i think what is interesting is - ! donald trump set the template. i think what is interesting is that - ! donald trump set the template. i think what is interesting is that it l think what is interesting is that it does _ think what is interesting is that it does seem that in the anglosphere, not in _ does seem that in the anglosphere, not in canada, but in the anglosphere in general, we have come to this _ anglosphere in general, we have come to this remarkable confluence were hard right— to this remarkable confluence were hard right when governance —— hard right— hard right when governance —— hard right wing _ hard right when governance —— hard right wing governments have a shred of normal— right wing governments have a shred of normal customs. i was a written
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constitution — of normal customs. i was a written constitution and a flawed document but one _ constitution and a flawed document but one that can be amended of men and women _ but one that can be amended of men and women of goodwill, but there is no goodwill any more. we have seen what donald trump did in the period of his— what donald trump did in the period of his presidency, we saw what britain. — of his presidency, we saw what britain. as— of his presidency, we saw what britain, as donald trump called boris _ britain, as donald trump called borisjohnson, and now the story about— borisjohnson, and now the story about scott morrison. —— written a trump. _ about scott morrison. —— written a trump. is — about scott morrison. —— written a trump, is what donald trump called boris _ trump, is what donald trump called borisjohnson. there is a sense of decency— borisjohnson. there is a sense of decency of. — borisjohnson. there is a sense of decency of, we can't do that,... ? the _ decency of, we can't do that,... ? the system — decency of, we can't do that,... ? the system that has run from 1980, from reagan, across our country's economies. — from reagan, across our country's economies, it is coming undone. it does _ economies, it is coming undone. it does not _ economies, it is coming undone. it does not work any more. politicians auoin for does not work any more. politicians going for the _ does not work any more. politicians going for the jobs — does not work any more. politicians going for the jobs have _ does not work any more. politicians going for the jobs have changed... l going for the jobs have changed... that is— going for the jobs have changed... that is absolutely... _ going for the jobs have changed... that is absolutely... is _ going for the jobs have changed... that is absolutely... is a _ going for the jobs have changed... that is absolutely... is a naked - that is absolutely... is a naked ambition. — that is absolutely... is a naked ambition, rather— that is absolutely... is a naked ambition, rather than- that is absolutely... is a naked ambition, rather than an - that is absolutely... is a naked i ambition, rather than an ambition combinedm — ambition, rather than an ambition combined- - -_ combined... and our great constitutional _ combined... and our great constitutional historian - combined... and our great | constitutional historian has combined... and our great -
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constitutional historian has always called it a fear of governmental good chance, —— good chaps. they would follow good condition, don't need something written because everyone knows that the system works, but now we have politicians who call the good chaps, the blog, and people who are meant to keep the show on the road behind—the—scenes and no longer any respect for any traditions and conventions. be careful what you wish for in a written — careful what you wish for in a written constitution, - careful what you wish for in a written constitution, because careful what you wish for in a . written constitution, because it requires — written constitution, because it requires a _ written constitution, because it requires a double _ written constitution, because it requires a double majority- written constitution, because it requires a double majority in i requires a double majority in australia, _ requires a double majority in australia, and _ requires a double majority in australia, and they- requires a double majority in australia, and they are - requires a double majority in i australia, and they are almost impossibiem _ australia, and they are almost impossible. . ._ australia, and they are almost impossible... australia, and they are almost imossible... ., . ., . , impossible... you have to have every state and territory _ impossible... you have to have every state and territory agree, _ impossible... you have to have every state and territory agree, and - impossible... you have to have every state and territory agree, and by - impossible... you have to have every state and territory agree, and by a i state and territory agree, and by a majority and then you have to have the national vote to say yes by majority. only a handful of referenda in australia have passed. briefly on a donald trump, this document goes on, we have the affidavits on friday, it didn't really tell us much new, but it reinforced this concern about doctors being removed... it is political because he is about to
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declare or they declare for 202a. is he going to go for it? i declare or they declare for 2024. is he going to go for it?— he going to go for it? i think that think that he — he going to go for it? i think that think that he probably _ he going to go for it? i think that think that he probably will. - he going to go for it? i think that think that he probably will. he i think that he probably will. he doesn't — think that he probably will. he doesn't listen to anyone any more, he has _ doesn't listen to anyone any more, he has no — doesn't listen to anyone any more, he has no one to tell him... he ever did?! peeple _ he has no one to tell him... he ever did?! people that _ he has no one to tell him... he ever did?! people that weren't _ he has no one to tell him... he ever did?! people that weren't much - he has no one to tell him... he ever| did?! people that weren't much help from our point _ did?! people that weren't much help from our point of _ did?! people that weren't much help from our point of view, _ did?! people that weren't much help from our point of view, from - did?! people that weren't much help from our point of view, from within l from our point of view, from within the white — from our point of view, from within the white house, all these men was coming _ the white house, all these men was coming out, — the white house, all these men was coming out, making it clear that there _ coming out, making it clear that there were — coming out, making it clear that there were people saying, no, you realty— there were people saying, no, you really can't — there were people saying, no, you really can't do that, and then he would _ really can't do that, and then he would throw his handbag against the wall, would throw his handbag against the wait, as _ would throw his handbag against the wall, as they say. —— hamburger. everything — wall, as they say. —— hamburger. everything that is leaked to the press, — everything that is leaked to the press, saying, yes, he will go for, that will— press, saying, yes, he will go for, that will allow him to mobilise his shrinking — that will allow him to mobilise his shrinking base at... that will allow him to mobilise his shrinking base at. . ._ shrinking base at... before the midterms. _ shrinking base at... before the midterms, do _ shrinking base at... before the midterms, do you _ shrinking base at... before the midterms, do you think? - shrinking base at... before the midterms, do you think? yes, | shrinking base at... before the - midterms, do you think? yes, because he no longer — midterms, do you think? yes, because he no longer cares _ midterms, do you think? yes, because he no longer cares about _ midterms, do you think? yes, because he no longer cares about this. - midterms, do you think? yes, because he no longer cares about this. thus - he no longer cares about this. thus the greatest threats to him running in a 2024. — the greatest threats to him running in a 2024, at the road from him in the governors's mention, run at the santos. _ the governors's mention, run at the santos. who— the governors's mention, run at the santos, who sees the world as trump
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does, _ santos, who sees the world as trump does. but _ santos, who sees the world as trump does. but is _ santos, who sees the world as trump does, but is everything that he is, he is _ does, but is everything that he is, he is disciplined, he is intelligent, shockingly, it can be so wasted. —— ron de santos. he is ruthlessly— so wasted. —— ron de santos. he is ruthlessly focused which is something... ruthlessly focused which is something. . ._ ruthlessly focused which is something... ruthlessly focused which is somethint... �* , ., , something... but trump on the party, no one can — something... but trump on the party, no one can get — something... but trump on the party, no one can get selected. _ something... but trump on the party, no one can get selected. looks - something... but trump on the party, no one can get selected. looks what l no one can get selected. looks what might look what happened to elizabeth cheney, no one can get selected as a republican candidate without... yes selected as a republican candidate without... . . selected as a republican candidate without... , . ., , , without... yes and no, because in the midterms, — without... yes and no, because in the midterms, what _ without... yes and no, because in the midterms, what will - without... yes and no, because in the midterms, what will happen l without... yes and no, because in| the midterms, what will happen is quite _ the midterms, what will happen is quite a _ the midterms, what will happen is quite a few trump endorsed candidates, for example, this guy, doctor— candidates, for example, this guy, doctor 02. — candidates, for example, this guy, doctor oz, the celebrity from cnn, he is _ doctor oz, the celebrity from cnn, he is going — doctor oz, the celebrity from cnn, he is going to lose, come back to hint _ he is going to lose, come back to him. herschelwalker, starfootball player, _ him. herschelwalker, starfootball player, is— him. herschelwalker, starfootball player, is going to lose what is a winnabte — player, is going to lose what is a winnable senate seat for the republicans. so winnable senate seat for the republicans.— winnable senate seat for the republicans. winnable senate seat for the reublicans. , . , republicans. so when the dust has settled... people _ republicans. so when the dust has settled... people turn _ republicans. so when the dust has settled... people turn around - republicans. so when the dust has settled... people turn around andl settled... people turn around and sa , no. settled... people turn around and say. no- and _ settled... people turn around and say. no- and i'm _ settled... people turn around and say, no. and i'm going _ settled... people turn around and say, no. and i'm going to - settled... people turn around and say, no. and i'm going to say - settled... people turn around and say, no. and i'm going to say at l say, no. and i'm going to say at this point. _ say, no. and i'm going to say at this point, no! _ say, no. and i'm going to say at this point, no! thank _ say, no. and i'm going to say at this point, no! thank you - say, no. and i'm going to say at this point, no! thank you all- say, no. and i'm going to say at| this point, no! thank you all very much as ever, thank you to come as well, stay with us for more dateline london, every weekend between now
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and the end of september. goodbye. hello. if you have plans to get out and about this weekend which is a bank holiday for all apart from scotland, the weather actually shouldn't cause too many issues because it will be mostly dry with sunny spells. not completely dry, still some showers to watch out for, and an increasing breeze which will make it feel cool to some. at the moment we have high pressure building to the south—west, this frontal system which has been working its way eastward is still generating more in the way of cloud, and a few showers continuing through the night, across parts of north wales, into north—west england,
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maybe eastern scotland, but elsewhere, some a spouse, son of mist and fog patches, but a cool and fresh night for many, eight for glasgow, nine for belfast, and some spots in the countryside will be a bit cooler. saturday would deal with spells of sunshine for many, one also —— a couple of mist patches, they were clear. we some —— we will see some... across down to the south, but they will be the exception rather than the rule, many places will be dodging those mist patches. and staying dry. —— rain patches. and staying dry. —— rain patches. the rain may come in for scotland, for some, but it will be mostly dry. how is between 20—25. a bit cooler for some eastern coast, and moving into sunday, we develop more of a breeze off the north sea, which willjust more of a breeze off the north sea, which will just accentuate the cooler feel for some eastern coast places, some cloud rolling in on the breeze into parts of scotland, summer rain in the far north—west, maybe, some spells of sunshine in the far north—west, some showers, but shelter from the breeze, it will
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be south wales, parts of south—west england, that see the highest temperatures, 25 there for cardiff. some places further east will struggle a little temperature wise through sunday, and into monday. cool and cloudy. of our towns and cities on the east coast. quite breezy as well, whereas further west, there will be more sunshine and high temperatures, despite an increasing wind in the south—west of england, temperatures here on monday could get into the middle 205 celsius. could get into the middle 205 cel5iu5. quite windy and the south—west and through the english channel, 5till south—west and through the english channel, still quite breezy eastern coa5t5 with lots of cloud being pulled in on that breeze a5 coa5t5 with lots of cloud being pulled in on that breeze as well. some 5hower5, pulled in on that breeze as well. some showers, some pulled in on that breeze as well. some 5hower5, some dry weather, and the best some showers, some dry weather, and the best sunshine will be where we have a shelter from that breeze, which will also bring the highest temperatures, up to around 24 25.
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this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines at eight. millions of households face an 80% rise in energy bills from october driven by the leap in hotel guests. i accept it tougher people, and we're doing everything we can to help. huge sums are being spent now and more will be spent and months ahead. ~ �* ., ., . , , ahead. we've got two leadership candidates fighting _ ahead. we've got two leadership candidates fighting with - ahead. we've got two leadership candidates fighting with each - ahead. we've got two leadership l candidates fighting with each other about— candidates fighting with each other about how appalling they've been in government and either have come up with any— government and either have come up with any plan to deal with this — unforgivable. the with any plan to deal with this - unforgivable.— with any plan to deal with this - unfort ivable. , , . , unforgivable. the justice department in the united — unforgivable. the justice department in the united states _ unforgivable. the justice department in the united states releases - unforgivable. the justice department in the united states releases a - in the united states releases a heavily redacted court document used forjust heavily redacted court document used for just the search
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heavily redacted court document used forjust the search of donald trump's home. tributes

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