tv Outside Source BBC News September 5, 2022 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source live outside number 10 downing street. liz truss defeats rishi sunak in the conservative party leadership election, to become britain's third female prime minister. she says she has a bold plan to deal with the uk's energy crisis. i will deliver in the energy crisis, dealing with people's energy bills, but also dealing with the long—term issues we have on energy supply. as the uk's cost—of—living crisis grows, with fuel bills breaking new records.
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labour says the conservatives are out of ideas, regardless of who's prime minister. after 12 years of a tory government, what are we to show for it? people are not able to pay their bills and the nhs and law and order have completely broken down. priti patel has announced she will retire as soon as a new home secretary has been appointed. she was said will continue as a backbencher. from the war in ukraine to spiralling inflation — liz truss is facing issues at home and abroad. we'll be speaking to a former cabinet secretary — who was the top civil servant for three different british prime ministers — about how she might approach the challenge.
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welcome to the programme. if you have questions about liz truss being set to become the next uk prime minister, send them our way and will be speaking to a range of experts through the next two hours and we'll do our best to give you some answers. you can reach me on twitter. and of course, the centre of our coverage will be britain's current foreign secretary liz truss who was about to shift up to the top job, to become prime minister. she has won the race to become the next conservative leader and that means she will be the prime minister of the uk as well. she is briton�*s fourth prime minister in six years. those of the six years that are far
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advanced as a brexit referendum when david cameron to resign after in the country's third female head of government as well. there are plenty of challenges ahead for her. both economic — with a predicted recession looming — and political, with deep divisions in her own party. we'll be getting into what this all means. but first, here's liz truss. i campaigned as a conservative and i will govern as a conservative. applause and, my friends, we need to show that we will deliver over the next two years. i will deliver a bold plan — to cut taxes and to grow our economy. i will deliver in the energy crisis,
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dealing with people's energy bills, but also dealing with the long—term issues we have on energy supply. one task is to convince people of the uk that she is the person to deliver what is needed. one poll released on the last hour or so fans r rate finds a two thirds of britain have no confidence in her tackling the price or present income crisis. not only does she have to come up with an effective plan but she has to make the case to some people who are not convinced that she is the person to deliver that plan. from a speech earlier, she believes that she is. this is all a consequence of what happened earlier injuly when borisjohnson announced his boris johnson announced his recognition. that led to a two—month contest where conservative party members decided on their new leader.
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and it was a closer result than many anticipated. it was widely expected that liz truss woodwind with perhaps a wider margin that she got. she took 57% of valid votes cast. her rival rishi sunak said... and here's what he told the bbc�*s political editor chris mason a short time ago. these leadership elections obviously highlighted differences or emphasised differences. but there's far more that unites... there's far more that unites liz and i than we disagree on and as she said, she's going to bring forward plans very quickly to support people through the winter. i think that's right and i look forward to seeing those and liz will have my full support as the new government delivers for the british people.
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in terms of what liz truss�*s plan is going to be, we don't have a confirmation of exactly when that will be announced, although there are reports that it will be thursday but we don't have confirmation of that yet from her or her team. one person who supported rishi sunak was the deputy prime minister, dominic raab — here's what he had to say after the result. we all need to turn our attention very swiftly to supporting the new prime minister and her new team, delivering for the british people, particularly now that everything we have going on, particularly with inflation and the cost—of—living, of the challenges they present. i think that's what the public will expect and i think that's what everyone, myself included, will do. we've also had reaction from the leader of the opposition labour party, sir keir starmer. have a listen. well, we have heard far more from the latest prime minister about cuts to corporation tax over the summer than we have about the cost—of—living crisis, the single most important thing that is bearing down on so many millions of households.
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and that shows, not only that she is out of touch, but that she is not on the side of working people. so she needs to do with the cost of living crisis, she needs to do —— to deal with the cost of living crisis... —— to deal with the cost of living crisis... with the fact that the nhs is on its knees and she needs to deal with the collapse of law and order. on this issue of the plan that liz truss will announce, simonjack is reporting that energy bosses are this evening meeting with government officials in the cabinet office. so even though liz truss is not yet prime minister until tomorrow, evidently work is beginning whatever the invective or intervention is that she decides is appropriate with a view to announcing that in the next few days. we know who the new prime ministers going to be. let's look at how the chronology of this is going to play out. tomorrow the prime minister will make an announcement in the morning but
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there is not great weather forecasts that may affect the timing of when he comes out and stands and makes the final address as prime minister. then he will go to balmoral in scotland to see the queen. then liz truss also goes to see the queen, after which she'll become the 15th british prime minister to be appointed the current monarch. british prime minister in the afternoon, we'll get a speech from liz truss. and then there'll be a flurry of cabinet announcements as the day goes on. we will have to see whether the rain holds off. we will have to see whether the rain holds off. it has been extensive briefings in the press and those appointments will come quickly through wednesday afternoon and into wednesday
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evening. tuesday into wednesday. tuesday into wednesday. that brings us to wednesday, when liz truss will face keir starmer during prime minister's questions at midday. another aspect of the story is how some of the bigger figures and boris johnson's government will approach this. dominic rab has indicated that he will not feature in the cabinet for the home secretary has taken the matter into our own hands and announced that she is going to step down in her resignation letter which she has released. we will have to see whether liz truss will continue with we will have to see whether liz truss will continue with some we will have to see whether liz truss will continue with some of those policies and time will tell on that. joe mayes, uk politics reporter at bloomberg. caitlin doherty, reporter at politics home.
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i guess this is one of the things trying to work out to what degree liz truss will be a continuity candidate on such as luanda such as what priti patel has stood by. it seems significant that on one of the big issues of this leadership contest has been that big divide that are triggered in the conservative party. we heard a lot of talk what people are calling blue on blue, conservatives attacking their colleagues are saying negative things about their colleagues and the fact of the matter was that rishi sunak was potentially going to offer a different administration to that which liz truss would offer. they were polar opposite packages on the table. it will be quite interesting to see whether liz truss does follow on from the policies of her predecessor. irate does follow on from the policies of her predecessor.— her predecessor. we saw boris johnson her predecessor. we saw boris johnson that — her predecessor. we saw boris johnson that he _ her predecessor. we saw boris johnson that he very _ her predecessor. we saw boris johnson that he very much - her predecessor. we saw boris johnson that he very much put| her predecessor. we saw boris i johnson that he very much put his johnson that he very much put his cabinet with loyalists, people with do or who are aligned with what he wanted to do. liz truss now has a decision to do with rishi sunak and his supporters. but she may appoint some of his supporters. she his supporters. but she may appoint some of his supporters.—
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some of his supporters. she could, but in her briefings _ some of his supporters. she could, but in her briefings it _ some of his supporters. she could, but in her briefings it suggests - but in her briefings it suggests that her— but in her briefings it suggests that her cabinet will be largely filled _ that her cabinet will be largely filled with their own supporters and indeed _ filled with their own supporters and indeed many prominent members of borisjohnson was in indeed many prominent members of boris johnson was in a cabinet. perhaps — boris johnson was in a cabinet. perhaps at _ boris johnson was in a cabinet. perhaps at a junior minister level she might — perhaps at a junior minister level she might offer positive sooner supporters and today she was saying that she _ supporters and today she was saying that she wants to unite the party giving _ that she wants to unite the party giving she — that she wants to unite the party giving she only had a third of suapart— giving she only had a third of support in the first round so she starts _ support in the first round so she starts from _ support in the first round so she starts from a position of relative vulnerability in westminster and she might— vulnerability in westminster and she might look_ vulnerability in westminster and she might look therefore to bring the party— might look therefore to bring the party together through those appointments but at a cabinet level, it looks _ appointments but at a cabinet level, it looks like she's sticking with her core — it looks like she's sticking with her core support.— it looks like she's sticking with her core support. let's talk about her core support. let's talk about her as a leader. _ her core support. let's talk about her as a leader. we _ her core support. let's talk about her as a leader. we have - her core support. let's talk about her as a leader. we have seen i her core support. let's talk about| her as a leader. we have seen her leading large departments of government. she has been foreign secretary recently and is foreign secretary recently and is foreign secretary for one more day. what kind of leader hashish owners have to be? liz kind of leader hashish owners have to be? , , . , kind of leader hashish owners have tobe? ,, , to be? liz truss has shown herself to be? liz truss has shown herself to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader _ to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader that _ to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader that i _ to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader that i think - to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader that i think is - to be? liz truss has shown herself to be a leader that i think is not i to be a leader that i think is not really afraid to make big decisions and stick big policies out there and give things a really good go. she was, when she was foreign secretary one of the big things that happened
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was the start of the war in ukraine and we saw lots of images of liz truss during that time when she visited moscow, so she was quite keen to put herself out there on the world stage. so it will be interesting from then on seeing how world leaders interact with her having already had that internationally significant position. everybody is asking when she will give us this bold _ position. everybody is asking when she will give us this bold plan - position. everybody is asking when she will give us this bold plan for. she will give us this bold plan for the cost of living crisis. we don't have a confirmation but is it reasonable to assume this coming this way? reasonable to assume this coming this wa ? , reasonable to assume this coming thiswa ? , . ., ,_ reasonable to assume this coming thiswa? , . . this way? yes, certainly by thursday and she will— this way? yes, certainly by thursday and she will want _ this way? yes, certainly by thursday and she will want to _ this way? yes, certainly by thursday and she will want to create - this way? yes, certainly by thursday and she will want to create a - and she will want to create a sense of momentum around her administration and i will come through— administration and i will come through a _ administration and i will come through a big, bold energy announcement and the longer we wait so why— announcement and the longer we wait so why not— announcement and the longer we wait so why not hit the ground running. thank— so why not hit the ground running. thank you — so why not hit the ground running. thank you very much forjoining us in downing street and here an outside source. next we are going to speak to...
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lord robin butler served as cabinet secretary and head of the homes civil service for a decade — overseeing two prime ministerial handovers in that time, from margaret thatcher tojohn major in 1990, and from major to the tony blair in 1997. let's get his thoughts. give us an insight into the practicalities of handing over from one prime minister to another. where do you even start?— do you even start? there will have been a lot — do you even start? there will have been a lot of— do you even start? there will have been a lot of preparation - do you even start? there will have been a lot of preparation before. l do you even start? there will have l been a lot of preparation before. as cabinet secretary, i prepared and indeed had conversations with the future potential prime ministers. in the case, of course, of margaret thatcher being succeeded byjohn major, that was a similar situation and it wasn't known until a week before thatjohn major was going to become prime minister, but conversations then would happen and
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i prepared a list of decisions that would have to be taken on the first day, and the first weekend and on the first week. when the 1997 election happened, there was a bigger change because there was a change of party. tony blair was succeeding john major. but i also heard extensive talks with tony blair and his office beforehand and withjohn major's permission, so we have been able to get a lot organised before the prime minister actually took office. find organised before the prime minister actually took office.— actually took office. and so, presumably _ actually took office. and so, presumably to _ actually took office. and so, presumably to some - actually took office. and so, | presumably to some degree, actually took office. and so, - presumably to some degree, this rests on the cooperation of the outgoing administration will stop yes, it does. find outgoing administration will stop yes. it does-— outgoing administration will stop yes, it does. and it's a convention that when — yes, it does. and it's a convention that when there _ yes, it does. and it's a convention that when there is _ yes, it does. and it's a convention that when there is a _ yes, it does. and it's a convention that when there is a general - that when there is a general
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election coming up, the prime minister of the day usually authorises discussions between top civil servants and the opposition about 15 months before the election. so there is a good deal of time to prepare. so there is a good deal of time to re are. �* so there is a good deal of time to --reare. �* , ., prepare. and when it comes to the cabinet appointments, _ prepare. and when it comes to the cabinet appointments, clearly - prepare. and when it comes to the cabinet appointments, clearly thatj prepare. and when it comes to the i cabinet appointments, clearly that a decision that the prime minister would take. but in your role, were you involved in helping to smooth the process, to make sure the different people who had been chosen and lined up as a respective prime ministers would wish?— ministers would wish? well, the first thing is _ ministers would wish? well, the first thing is the _ ministers would wish? well, the first thing is the prime _ ministers would wish? well, the first thing is the prime ministerl first thing is the prime minister has to decide whether they are going to make any change to structural departments. and in the number of ministers and departments. and so, i prepared a matrix for the prime ministers who are coming in in both 1992 and 1997, i prepared one for neil kinnock, the opposition, which of course didn't have to be used
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because as the ministerial salaries act, it governs how many cabinet ministers you can pay, how many ministers you can pay, how many ministers can be paid and how many parliamentary secretaries can be paid. so that all governs the number of appointments that can be made and it needs to be thought about beforehand.— it needs to be thought about beforehand. ., ,, , ., ., , , ., ,, beforehand. thank you for speaking to us on bbc— beforehand. thank you for speaking to us on bbc news. _ beforehand. thank you for speaking to us on bbc news. fascinating - beforehand. thank you for speaking to us on bbc news. fascinating to l to us on bbc news. fascinating to hear your insides and of course, that process of shifting from boris johnson and his leadership and his team across to liz truss and her leadership and her team will be well under by this stage. tomorrow morning it is borisjohnson will step under the door behind me to make a final statement as prime minister and heads to see the queen and by the afternoon he will not be prime minister any longer and liz truss would have also seen the queen as she would have taken over. there is a lot for liz truss to be focused on. arguably the biggest challenge facing new prime minister is the cost—of—living crisis, with the price of everyday
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essentials which people need to live like energy and food going up much faster than the amount of money people earn. quickly people are reaching a point where they simply cannot pay their bills. the thing that is driving thatis bills. the thing that is driving that is those rising prices. the major cause is inflation. prices are currently rising faster than they have done for a0 years. take, for example, energy. here in the uk there is a price cap system, which limits the amount a supplier can charge for each unit of gas and electricity. the latest change in the price cap means that from october, households will be paying around 80% more for their energy than under the previous price cap, and around three times more than they were paying at the same point last year. food prices are also going up. some food products are as much
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as 80% more expensive than they were a year ago. in both cases, a major factor is russia's invasion of ukraine. here's the bank of england governor speaking to the bbc last month. it's been hit by a very, very severe shock and the shock is coming through in energy prices. i'm afraid i've got to be really blunt about this, it's coming from the actions of russia. our concern is to ensure that this very big shock that is going to hit inflation, is going to hit people of course this winter, doesn't then get embedded into the system. that's the real concern we have. we'll come back to russia's role in driving up prices later in the programme. meanwhile, this is what liz truss said about the economy in an interview with laura kuenssberg on sunday.
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what i want to reassure people is i will act, what i want to reassure people is i willact, if what i want to reassure people is i will act, if elected as prime minister, within one week. what i cannot do on this show, laura, is tell you exactly what that announcement would be. she wasn't able to tell laura, _ announcement would be. she wasn't able to tell laura, but _ announcement would be. she wasn't able to tell laura, but we _ announcement would be. she wasn't able to tell laura, but we are - announcement would be. she wasn't able to tell laura, but we are being l able to tell laura, but we are being told she will tell everyone by the end of the week, we think, we don't have a fixed time from liz truss and her team. we also heard from liz truss on the cost of living crisis in her victory speech earlier today. i will deliver a bold plan to cut taxes and grow our economy. i will deliver on the energy crisis, dealing with people's energy bills, but also dealing with the long—term issues we have on energy supply. as you heard there, liz truss has made it an economic priority to cut taxes. she has promised to reverse the recent increase in national insurance and to cancel a scheduled
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rise in corporation tax. there has also been speculation about what measures she could take to specifically support people with energy costs. earlier today the financial times reported that liz truss "is considering freezing energy bills in response to the spiralling cost to households." asked to comment, a spokesperson for ms truss's team said "we are not commenting on speculation." but went on to say that "we are not ruling anything in or out. " the leader of the labour party has been critical about the lack of a concrete plan. here's sir keir starmer speaking earlier. there can be nojustification there can be no justification for not freezing energy prices. there is a political consensus that needs to happen. she needs to answer a question how she's going to pay for that. labour have been cleared the need to be a windfall tax from oil and gas companies and so she needs to show that she actually understands and can meet the challenges that are there after 12
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years of failure of this tory government.— years of failure of this tory government. let's look at the o tions government. let's look at the options in _ government. let's look at the options in front _ government. let's look at the options in front of— government. let's look at the options in front of liz - government. let's look at the options in front of liz cox. --| government. let's look at the i options in front of liz cox. -- liz options in front of liz cox. —— liz truss. energy analyst david coxjoins me now. he's the ceo of london energy consulting. to think a price freeze is the way forward. ? , ~ , to think a price freeze is the way forward. ? , ,, , , ., forward.? yes, i think it is but all solutions to _ forward.? yes, i think it is but all solutions to help _ forward.? yes, i think it is but all solutions to help consumers - forward.? yes, i think it is but all solutions to help consumers getl solutions to help consumers get through the screen went ahead are going to be very expensive. the price cap, freezing the price cap allows everyone to know roughly their bill will be £2000 for the coming months or years and they can take account of that. the government probably will need to do more in terms of targeting some help at the poorer sections of society as well, but i think freezing the price cap, which has been, as you say, recommended by the labour party, by scottishpower and other energy companies seems a straightforward
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solution, there was a very difficult problem. it’s solution, there was a very difficult roblem. v . solution, there was a very difficult roblem. �*, . , ., ., ., problem. it's a straightforward solution, perhaps, _ problem. it's a straightforward solution, perhaps, but- problem. it's a straightforward solution, perhaps, but also - problem. it's a straightforward solution, perhaps, but also an| solution, perhaps, but also an incredibly expensive solution. and there are different ways the government could cover that cost. if it does decide to go for a policy of this nature, how would you recommend paid for? i this nature, how would you recommend aid for? ~ �* , this nature, how would you recommend aid for? ~' 3 ., this nature, how would you recommend aid for? ,, �*, ., ., ., paid for? i think it's going to have to look again _ paid for? i think it's going to have to look again at _ paid for? i think it's going to have to look again at corporation - paid for? i think it's going to have i to look again at corporation tax and raising taxes on the oil and gas producers who are making windfall profits at the moment because the global price of gas and oil has shot through the roof as we know and they are making windfall profits, not because they had done anything special or made any new investments, simply because the world price is very high. so i think they are a target. unfortunately, that will not raise enough money so i think we are looking at borrowing, increased borrowing to get us through this crisis. and with that comes problems for the future perhaps, but at least it helps people survive when they
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are facing bills of £5,000 per year injanuary and they can't are facing bills of £5,000 per year in january and they can't afford are facing bills of £5,000 per year injanuary and they can't afford it. in january and they can't afford it. and that, of course, is the immediate priority for liz truss. making sure that people can afford it in some form or another. but what about the actual energy supply? do you have concerns about blackouts for example? we see some european countries preparing contingency for that. is something that could happen in the uk? i’m that. is something that could happen in the uk? �* , ., ., in the uk? i'm very worried about this because _ in the uk? i'm very worried about this because it _ in the uk? i'm very worried about this because it depends _ in the uk? i'm very worried about this because it depends on - this because it depends on the weather, like most things. if we have a colder than average winter, we will need more gas because we use gas in our homes to heat and we use gas in our homes to heat and we use gas to generate around 40% of our electricity. if we don't get that gas, we will be faced with blackouts in the uk. and that is a serious potential problem. we import gas from norway, 30%. we get our own gas from norway, 30%. we get our own gas from the north sea, a0%. but we need
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to import the other 20—30% from liquefied natural gas from around the world. and we will be bidding against europe, bidding against china and japan for that gas. so not only would drive prices potentially even higher if mr putin keeps the gas switched off to europe. we may not get enough gas and that means the lights go out, our central heating boilers don't work and our central heating pumps don't work. so this is a major crisis and i think the government really need to take this seriously and start the emergency planning. i understand national grid are already doing some but they need to do more themselves. david cox, thank you very much indeed. and liz truss has signalled multiple times that she is taking it seriously and when she was prime minister she says she will give us some detail on her plan. this topic caitlin and joe who had been made respond to this victory. what happens tomorrow? at the moment,
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borisjohnson are still prime minister. you get up tomorrow and what happens? irate minister. you get up tomorrow and what happens?— minister. you get up tomorrow and what happens? we know that boris johnson will _ what happens? we know that boris johnson will be _ what happens? we know that boris johnson will be making _ what happens? we know that boris johnson will be making a _ what happens? we know that boris johnson will be making a final - johnson will be making a final speech from here and downing street, should the weather allows. sometime around breakfast and then he will be heading up to scotland, to balmoral, to meet the queen and officially tender his rig doing that resignation.— tender his rig doing that resignation. and then the backbenchers? _ resignation. and then the backbenchers? yes, - resignation. and then the backbenchers? yes, we l resignation. and then the - backbenchers? yes, we think we haven't heard _ backbenchers? yes, we think we haven't heard anything _ backbenchers? yes, we think we haven't heard anything of - backbenchers? yes, we think we haven't heard anything of his - haven't heard anything of his ambitions beyond prime minister. perhaps _ ambitions beyond prime minister. perhaps he will write newspaper columns — perhaps he will write newspaper columns are after—dinner circuits but at _ columns are after—dinner circuits but at the — columns are after—dinner circuits but at the moment he goes to the backbenchers._ but at the moment he goes to the backbenchers. ., ,, , ., , . backbenchers. thank you very much. we heard from _ backbenchers. thank you very much. we heard from priti _ backbenchers. thank you very much. we heard from priti patel _ backbenchers. thank you very much. we heard from priti patel earlier- we heard from priti patel earlier saying that as soon as a replacement is appointed, she will be going back to the backbenchers. she is one of the big figures and borisjohnson's government. he will become a backbencher, unless liz truss surprises and appoints him to the cabinet but we don't think that will happen. we then will hear from the debris prime minister, dominic rab, also saying he is not expecting to be in the new cabinet. these are big
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changes for the conservative party and for the uk. we will continue to talk about them in the coming time here on outside source. hello again. many northern parts of the uk have been dry today with some sunshine around as well, but we have seen some thicker cloud developing across more southern areas. that's been bringing some rain, particularly towards more southwestern parts of england and wales. we still have an area of low pressure sitting to the west of the uk, and around it, you can see how that cloud is just spiralling around. it's been thickening up from the south and we are seeing some rain moving in as well — notjust rain but the threat of some thunderstorms as well. we had a lot of those, of course, last night, over 36,000 lightning strikes, and this is where we've got the greatest risk of storms for the next few hours, into the early hours of the morning. and you can see how the rain has been developing here. that first area of rain not particularly heavy, but it's these downpours coming into the south west and wales that we are seeing some thunderstorms already. and those will push their way
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into the midlands, for a while, some storms, and then that wetter weather moves northwards into scotland. following that, we're going to have some clear skies and many places do turn dry, one or two mist and fog patches. but a warm night, actually — temperatures again no lower than 1a, 15 degrees in many parts of the country. the last few nights, we've been able to see the northern lights in the far north of scotland. this was last night from a weather watcher. but there's less aurora activity tonight and there's probably more cloud as well, so it's going to be more difficult to see. and with that cloud still in scotland, we've got the threat of some more rain developing more widely. that could be heavy. and as the winds pick up in the south—west, we're going to find some further bands of rain coming in here. whilst there may be some sunshine in between, can't rule out a few showers. again, the risk of some thunderstorms in there too. not quite as warm, probably, on tuesday — the highest temperatures 23, 2a degrees in lincolnshire and across east anglia. low pressure continues to dominate our weather, as it has done over the past few days. and in the next few days,
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the centre of the low will track from west to east, cutting off that supply of warmer southerly winds and bringing some more rain. there could be some sunshine around on wednesday, but i think we're going to find the showers or longer spells of rain developing more widely. probably the wetter weather towards the south—west of the uk. and those temperatures typically around 19—21 celsius. this very unsettled weather continues through the rest of the week, particularly wet in many places, i think, during thursday. but maybe western areas becoming a bit drier and a bit brighter with some sunshine on friday.
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hello, i'm ros atkins. welcome back to outside source. looking back to downing street. as you can see, we are just outside number 10, you can see, we are just outside number10, and we you can see, we are just outside number 10, and we are here because, tomorrow, there is going to be a change of prime minister. liz truss defeats rishi sunak in the conservative party leadership election to become britain's third female prime minister. speaking today, she says she has a bold plan to deal with the uk's energy crisis. i will deliver on the energy crisis, dealing with people's energy bills, but also dealing with the long—term issues we have on energy supply.
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applause with fuel bills breaking new records, the opposition labour party says the conservatives are out of ideas, regardless of who's prime minister. and there are a number of different matters for liz truss to consider. there is the war in ukraine, there is relations with the european union, the cost—of—living crisis, and emmanuel macron, the french president, has issued his congratulations to the new prime minister. translation: first, i say welcome to liz truss. - i express to her that france congratulates her and we're available to work as allies and friends. on tuesday afternoon, liz truss will start
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detailing her cabinet — but we know of one change. priti patel has confirmed she will not continue as home secretary. she will continue to work from the back benches. we should say, that is not a huge surprise. if we go back a couple of months, you're standing here on a tuesday evening in earlyjuly. the chancellor had resigned. you had other high—profile resignations as well and borisjohnson was under pressure. then, by the wednesday night, we were here and he really was under pressure. there was a whole day of resignations but not his., the thursday morning, he vowed to that pressure and he would be standing down, and that has triggered a process that leads us all the way to this monday evening in early september, because this
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contest to choose his replacement has now finished. it finished at lunchtime, when sir graeme brady, who oversaw the contest, head of the 1922 committee, which conducts the bishop elections for the conservative party, stood up infant of an audience down the road from here and confirmed the new prime minister would be liz truss. we were told she had beaten rishi sunak and would therefore be elected as the leader of the conservative party and because the conservative party has an 80 seat majority, roughly, in the house of commons, she can now form the next government. she will be the fourth prime minister in the space of six years, which, whatever you think of brexit, is in part connected to it because that process started when david cameron stood at just behind me in downing street the morning after the brexit referendum went their way of brexit and concerned he would be stepping down. there was him, and then we saw
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theresa may take over, then we saw orestjohnson take over, now this trust has taken over. —— boris johnson. she will also become britain's third female prime minister when she visits the queen at balmoral tomorrow and accepts the invitation to form a government. that is the process. let us cast our eye on what all of this means for uk politics. as always, our guide is rob watson. politics. as always, our guide is rob watson-— politics. as always, our guide is rob watson. . , . . rob watson. here we are succulent it feels like we — rob watson. here we are succulent it feels like we have _ rob watson. here we are succulent it feels like we have been _ rob watson. here we are succulent it feels like we have been here - feels like we have been here forever. i've spent more time outside this printer than my own front door! i was thinking and bring my cat ringo... front door! i was thinking and bring my cat ringo- - -_ front door! i was thinking and bring my cat ringo... with larry! there is a line between _ my cat ringo... with larry! there is a line between that _ my cat ringo... with larry! there is a line between that moment - my cat ringo... with larry! there is a line between that moment david i a line between that moment david cameron stood here the day after the referenda become an effective liz truss will be standing here. i was truss will be standing here. i was writin: truss will be standing here. i was writing about _ truss will be standing here. i was writing about this _ truss will be standing here. i was writing about this and _ truss will be standing here. mas writing about this and thinking about it, thinking about, is that fair? how would you place all of this in the historical context? i
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think it is absolutely fair. whatever you think of brexit, it is a radical shock to the system. it is worth or minding ourselves that up until very recently, britton's two main parties, the labour party and the governing conservative party, membership of the eu was a cornerstone of the domestic policy, so it was bound to cause upheaval. we are living in a rather profound, undiagnosed political crisis in this country, but it goes further back to the financial crash in 2008 and the way in which has been very difficult for people to recover living standards and growth ever since then. , �* ., , ., standards and growth ever since then. , �* ., ., ., then. isn't it remarkable or at least worthy _ then. isn't it remarkable or at least worthy of _ then. isn't it remarkable or at least worthy of note - then. isn't it remarkable or at least worthy of note that - then. isn't it remarkable or at least worthy of note that two | then. isn't it remarkable or at - least worthy of note that two years after the financial crash, 2010, david cameron formed a coalition government with the liberal democrats, he was prime minister, the tories won in 2015, got a big majority in 2019 — as they have
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navigated these pressures, they are the ones forming a government? yes. the ones forming a government? yes, althou:h it the ones forming a government? yes, although it is — the ones forming a government? ye: although it is important to the ones forming a government? 12: although it is important to say that that does not mean that there is not a growing unhappiness in the country, as there is western countries. this is not unique to the uk for stub but when faced with a particle choice, which do you think is the best party for dealing with that, until now, it's been the governing conservatives? i that, until now, it's been the governing conservatives? i heard one critic calling — governing conservatives? i heard one critic calling liz _ governing conservatives? i heard one critic calling liz truss _ governing conservatives? i heard one critic calling liz truss continuity - critic calling liz truss continuity johnson. do you accept that that they are not close politically, or should we expect someone with a different range of political priorities —— are that close? ads, priorities —— are that close? difficult question to know! she has in some ways pitched yourself as continuityjohnson, really striking on how she praised borisjohnson winning the leadership contest. interesting, because you might
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think, maybe if you were going to be the new leader of this country, you might want to try to reach out to the 50% of the country think boris johnson was a fairly hopeless prime minister — that is how she has decided to do — but she has set out a low tax uk —— not what she has decided to go. whether she does what borisjohnson did, we will see. for boris johnson did, we will see. for the moment. _ borisjohnson did, we will see. for the moment, think you very much indeed. rob watson with me in downing street. liz truss has said she will strike that hike in national insurance and not go ahead with the corporation tax is slated for 2023, with the corporation tax is slated for2023, but with the corporation tax is slated for 2023, but as rob was saying, we need to wait to see the changes in the policies she announces. one thing she will be focused on is the war in ukraine. during his time in office, borisjohnson adopted a firm
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stance against russia. we know that he was there in kyiv just last month. we know thatjust last month, the uk pledged a new package of support for ukraine worth £54 million. that's on top of the £2.3 billion of military and financial aid already pledged. it's expected that liz truss will continue the tough approach. here she is on that. it's very important at this time that we keep up the pressure on vladimir putin by supplying more weapons to ukraine, by increasing the sanctions. g7 unity has been vital during this crisis, to protect freedom and democracy, and we'll continue to work together to do just that. with the view from the ukrainian capital kyiv, here's our correspondent hugo bachega. i think it's something that's been closely watched here by the ukrainian government. the uk is one of the main supporters when it comes to military aid, and borisjohnson is an extremely
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popular figure here, not only because of the aid that's been provided by the uk but also because of his very strong statements, such as calling for president putin to be defeated. he was here ten days ago, on independence day, and, alongside president zelensky, said that european countries would have to endure the cost—of—living crisis in order to defeat russia and to counter russian aggression in this country. but i also think that people here understand, in the uk and in western countries, it is a very difficult moment when it comes to rising energy bills, rising inflation, and these are problems that are connected with the war here. so there is perhaps some apprehension that if this crisis continues, if this cost—of—living crisis goes on, perhaps popular support could fade when it comes to the support and the aid being given by western countries and even the uk to the ukrainians during this war.
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that is you go in kyiv, and we could see pictures of borisjohnson with president zelensky during a recent trip the prime minister made there. let's turn to russia now. liz truss is chiefly known there for a visit to moscow earlier this year, where she held a meeting with foreign minister sergei lavrov. it led to this tense exchange. translation: the conversation we had was like a deaf person _ talking to someone who's mute. we were listening to one another but not hearing each other. i certainly wasn't mute in our discussions earlier. i put forward the uk's point of view on the current situation.
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that was a little of how sergey lavrov and liz truss got along in their roles as foreign secretary. of course, liz truss's role is now changing to prime minister. she has also been openly mocked by the russian foreign ministry for various geographical gaffes, including one occasion where she got mixed up between the black and baltic seas. in response to that, we saw foreign ministry spokeswoman maria zakharova complain of "the stupidity and ignorance of anglo—saxon politicians". here's our russia editor steve rosenberg in moscow. they certainly won't be cracking out the champagne in the kremlin at the news that liz truss is the new british prime minister, and it's no secret, really, that the current russian leadership does not like liz truss. it does not like her very public strong support of ukraine, it doesn't like her very public and strong opposition to the kremlin, the fact that she's publicly called for vladimir putin
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to be defeated in ukraine. and it didn't like when she came to moscow back in february, as british foreign secretary, when she came for a meeting with sergey lavrov, the russian foreign minister. to say that meeting was frosty is a bit of an understatement, really. i watched the press conference afterwards, and it felt as if there was a cold war going on between these two politicians. they clearly didn't like one another, and it sergey lavrov said they clearly didn't like one another, and sergey lavrov said that "the conversation we had was like a deaf person talking to someone who is mute — we were listening to one another, but we couldn't hear one another." i think that will sum up the relationship between russia and the uk now that liz truss is in number10. that is some of what liz truss will be faced with as she comes prime minister and looks to be more in ukraine and relations with ukraine and relations as they are with russia as well. before we talk about
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the european union, we'rejust seeing the guardian reporting this trust will not offer rishi a job in her new cabinet if that is the case, it would not be a huge surprise. rishi sunak spoke to the bbc�*s chris mason earlier and did not anticipate being in the cabinet, but the guardian confirming that plane is not on the table. the bbc has not confirmed that, but that is not a surprise. bear in mind, priti patel announcing she would not serve as home secretary, deputy prime ministers dominic raab saying he does not see a place for himself in the cabinet, so some of the biggest figures who held rules in boris johnson's government are now exiting the stage. this trust will be selecting a team to take the uk onwards —— liz truss will be. one of
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theissues onwards —— liz truss will be. one of the issues when she does will be relations with the european union, which will be a little complex, shall we say. we have had some reaction from the european union. the president of the european commission has congratulated liz truss, adding that she looked forward to a constructive relationship, "in full respect of agreements" between the two sides. that — i'm pretty sure — is a reference to the fact that as foreign minister, truss championed legislation that would unilaterally tear up part of britain's divorce deal with the eu. liz truss cosmic �*s approached that has not been to the liking the european union. —— liz truss's approach. here'sjessica parker in brussels. there is an element of distrust because there's history there. namely, liz truss has been in charge of trying to renegotiate post—brexit trading arrangements for northern ireland over this year. and it went from a point where she seemed to establish
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relatively cordial nations with the counterpart here at the european commission to actually finding that she said there was no further ground to be covered, the eu was being too intransigent in terms of its ability to reform the northern ireland protocol. and she kick—started this legislation that could see, potentially, parts of that treaty overwritten. didn't go down well here in the eu. they launched fresh legal action. and there's a possibility down the line, if things escalate, if negotiations don't resume and they don't reach some agreement, that you could find something of a trade war between the eu and the uk, although that is still some way off as a prospect. but liz truss a known quantity here in brussels, but as i say, there is some baggage because of those reasons i have just outlined. but i think it is worth pointing out as well that whilst there are people here in brussels, some diplomats, commission officials who might not be overly keen on her recent approach to post—brexit arrangements, there are maybe some countries — particularly towards the east in the european union — where you have seen some quite heartfelt congratulations today.
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they have liked the uk's approach to ukraine, what's seen as a strong stance against russian aggression — they know liz truss because she's the foreign secretary — so i think there are nuanced elements in terms of the european reaction. thanks to jess in thanks tojess in brussels for that. there's another element to this too, comments liz truss made earlier in her campaign about the french president. have a listen. president macron, friend orfoe? president macron, friend or foe? the 'u is out! president macron, friend or foe? the jury is out! but if i... president macron, friend or foe? the jury is out! but if |. .. applause - jury is out! but if i... applause but if i become _ jury is out! but if i... applause but if i become prime _ jury is out! but if i... applause but if! become prime minister, | jury is out! but if |. .. applause| but if! become prime minister, i but if i become prime minister, i would _ but if i become prime minister, i would judge him on deeds, not words. at the time, this is how mr macron responded. translation: if france and britain cannot say whether _ translation: if france and britain cannot say whether they _ translation: if france and britain cannot say whether they are - translation: if france and britain cannot say whether they are friends or enemies. — cannot say whether they are friends or enemies, then— cannot say whether they are friends or enemies, then we _ cannot say whether they are friends or enemies, then we are _ cannot say whether they are friends or enemies, then we are headed i cannot say whether they are friends | or enemies, then we are headed for serious _
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or enemies, then we are headed for serious problems _ today, we heard from mr macron after it was confirmed liz truss would be prime minister. translation: first, i say welcome to liz truss. - i express to her that - france congratulates her and we're available to work as allies and friends. - on this topic, everybody knows the united _ on this topic, everybody knows the united kingdom _ on this topic, everybody knows the united kingdom is— on this topic, everybody knows the united kingdom is not— on this topic, everybody knows the united kingdom is not in— on this topic, everybody knows the united kingdom is not in the - united kingdom is not in the european union, _ united kingdom is not in the european union, no - united kingdom is not in the european union, no longer. united kingdom is not in thel european union, no longer is united kingdom is not in the - european union, no longer is because of the _ european union, no longer is because of the solidarity— european union, no longer is because of the solidarity is _ european union, no longer is because of the solidarity is are _ european union, no longer is because of the solidarity is are different. - of the solidarity is are different. -- no— of the solidarity is are different. -- no longer— of the solidarity is are different. -- no longer is, _ of the solidarity is are different. —— no longer is, so _ of the solidarity is are different. —— no longer is, so the - of the solidarity is are different. | —— no longer is, so the solidarity is. adders of relations with de with ukraine and russia but also domestic relations —— matters of relations with the eu. listen to this from iain duncan smith... you're staring into the grave, either you stay together or you are going to be in it. ithink together or you are going to be in it. i think that is one of the most
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galvanising features. the fact that you have 18 months and do not have time for rows. let's speak to joe mayes, uk politics reporter at bloomberg, and caitlin doherty, reporter at politics home. pretty... framing the next months as an existential period for the conservatives. i an existential period for the conservatives.— an existential period for the conservatives. i think it is fair, because this — conservatives. i think it is fair, because this is _ conservatives. i think it is fair, because this is a _ conservatives. i think it is fair, because this is a party - conservatives. i think it is fair, because this is a party that - conservatives. i think it is fair, j because this is a party that has been deeply divided. we had 137 votes for rishi sunak, less for liz truss, and only a third of mps backed liz truss in the first round of this contest, so she clearly has a lot of people to bring on—site. a party damaged by the scandal that hit this place, borisjohnson, and there is a mood that the party needs to be repaired. it is there is a mood that the party needs to be repaired-— to be repaired. it is interesting as well, to be repaired. it is interesting as well. when _ to be repaired. it is interesting as well. when we — to be repaired. it is interesting as well, when we have _ to be repaired. it is interesting as well, when we have spoken - to be repaired. it is interesting as well, when we have spoken to - to be repaired. it is interesting as| well, when we have spoken to him to be repaired. it is interesting as i well, when we have spoken to him a lot about _ well, when we have spoken to him a lot about the current context we are in, lot about the current context we are in. that _ lot about the current context we are in. that the — lot about the current context we are in, that the only story in town is
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is s - lit? , ., conversations with you, they feel it is slit? , ., ., , conversations with you, they feel it isslit? , ., .,, ,, is split? they want to see liz truss have a measure _ is split? they want to see liz truss have a measure of— is split? they want to see liz truss have a measure of the _ is split? they want to see liz truss have a measure of the crisis i is split? they want to see liz truss| have a measure of the crisis coming in the winter, they want to see or have a big bold plan that reassures people from day one that she is on their site and has solutions for what is going to be a difficult winter. if she does not do that, do not be surprised if mps get against her and there is in the story... that is not off the cards if she does not deliver.— that is not off the cards if she does not deliver. what a thought! sta with does not deliver. what a thought! stay with us- _ does not deliver. what a thought! stay with us. you're _ does not deliver. what a thought! stay with us. you're going - does not deliver. what a thought! stay with us. you're going to i does not deliver. what a thought! | stay with us. you're going to guide us through the many aspects of story, with liz truss becoming prime minster tomorrow. story, with liz truss becoming prime minstertomorrow. in story, with liz truss becoming prime minster tomorrow. in a few minutes, after this at times bruising campaign, we will look at how liz truss might try and unite the conservative party, we havejust been touching on that, because there are divisions in parliament and in the membership —— becoming prime minister tomorrow.
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one of the tasks liz truss faces is to reach out to voters across the uk at a time when many are facing money worries. our special correspondent lucy manning has spent the day gauging reaction in peterborough. they want the cuts now — to energy bills, to tax rates, to rising prices. hopefully they would maybe make some differences to people's lives because i think people are very worried at the moment. notjust people in everyday life, but obviously as small business owners, we are very worried about what is coming next. liz truss started her tory leadership campaign here in peterborough, winning by appealing to tory party members, but now she has to reach out to every voter — in this marginal and others — hit by price rises to persuade them she should stay as prime minister. the scale of the task —
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at the fishy business, they are not even sure they will have a business soon. at the moment, our gas bill is just over £500 a month. it's going to be over £6,000 a month, which isjust... that means we are going to have to close the door. we simply cannot afford to pay that. she has got a lot of work ahead of her and we really need her to prove to me what she's doing to do to help me keep the doors open on my business and help my customers and local community. she needs to prove herself to get my vote in the next election. even her supporters worry they still don't know her plans to tackle rising prices. i voted for her, so i'm definitely glad that she won. ijust hope that many of the tax cuts come as soon as possible. liz truss, when she was foreign secretary, she did a brilliantjob and i have a lot of respect for her for that. however, i do have a lot of issues with some of her economic policies. the worry is real — from staying in business to keeping warm. the fourth prime minister in six years facing voter demands for immediate and bold action. lucy manning,
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bbc news, peterborough. iam ros i am ros atkins. welcome back to outside source here in downing street, as we continue our coverage of liz truss defeating rishi sunak in the conservative party leadership election. that means she will become the uk's third female prime minister tomorrow afternoon. borisjohnson tomorrow afternoon. boris johnson will travel to see the queen of the earlier on the day on tuesday to confirm his resignation. as we have been discussion, liz truss has pressure to unite a conservative party that has been anything but united in recent months, and one way to do that is to set our programme of government. how she plans to meet the challenges people across the uk are facing.
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in her short speech, she spoke directly to members of the party. friends and colleagues, thank you for putting your faith in friends and colleagues, thank you for putting yourfaith in me friends and colleagues, thank you for putting your faith in me to lead our great conservative party, the greatest political party on earth. during this leadership campaign, i campaigned as a conservative and i will govern as a conservative. applause let's speak again tojoe and caitlin. understandably, everyone is focused on the cost—of—living crisis, but the people who have not followed the campaign closely, what else is a priority for liz truss as she sets out her leadership, tries to unite the party and win the country over? what else can we expect? i country over? what else can we exect? ~ , : country over? what else can we exect? ,, , ., ., expect? i think it is fair to say the nhs is — expect? i think it is fair to say the nhs is another _ expect? i think it is fair to say the nhs is another one i expect? i think it is fair to say the nhs is another one of- expect? i think it is fair to say i the nhs is another one of those big issues _ the nhs is another one of those big issues waiting in her in tray at the moment — issues waiting in her in tray at the moment. we have stories of
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ambulances waiting many hours to turn people over, people waiting a lon- turn people over, people waiting a long time — turn people over, people waiting a long time for their appointments, and we _ long time for their appointments, and we have warnings for people working — and we have warnings for people working in— and we have warnings for people working in the in hs. staffing is really— working in the in hs. staffing is really coming under pressure and has been for some time. we are heading into an _ been for some time. we are heading into an autumn and winter, liz truss is becoming — into an autumn and winter, liz truss is becoming prime minister in september, and we know the time the in hs faces _ september, and we know the time the in hs faces the biggest pressure is winterm _ in hs faces the biggest pressure is winter... : , , , ., winter... anything else we should watch out for? _ winter... anything else we should watch out for? the _ winter. .. anything else we should watch out for? the small- winter... anything else we should watch out for? the small boats i winter... anything else we should i watch out for? the small boats issue and tackling — watch out for? the small boats issue and tackling crossing _ watch out for? the small boats issue and tackling crossing across - watch out for? the small boats issue and tackling crossing across the i and tackling crossing across the english channel. and also the issue of brexit, delivering on that northern ireland protocol bill, in which we would turn off parts of the bill. ., ~ , ., , which we would turn off parts of the bill. ., ~ y., , . we were talking earlier about how priti patel confirmed she will not be carrying on in thatjob but she very clearly she would be
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campaigning for the policies she agrees with, including the river —— rwanda policy. be with you in a moment. hello again. many northern parts of the uk have been dry today with some sunshine around as well, but we have seen some thicker cloud developing across more southern areas. that's been bringing some rain, particularly towards more southwestern parts of england and wales. we still have an area of low pressure sitting to the west of the uk, and around it, you can see how that cloud is just spiralling around. it's been thickening up from the south and we are seeing some rain moving in as well — notjust rain but the threat of some thunderstorms as well. we had a lot of those, of course, last night, over 36,000 lightning strikes, and this is where we've got the greatest risk of storms for the next few hours, into the early hours of the morning. and you can see how the rain has been developing here. that first area of rain not particularly heavy, but it's these downpours coming
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into the south west and wales that we are seeing some thunderstorms already. and those will push their way into the midlands, for a while, some storms, and then that wetter weather moves northwards into scotland. following that, we're going to have some clear skies and many places do turn dry, one or two mist and fog patches. but a warm night, actually — temperatures again no lower than 1a, 15 degrees in many parts of the country. the last few nights, we've been able to see the northern lights in the far north of scotland. this was last night from a weather watcher. but there's less aurora activity tonight and there's probably more cloud as well, so it's going to be more difficult to see. and with that cloud still in scotland, we've got the threat of some more rain developing more widely. that could be heavy. and as the winds pick up in the south—west, we're going to find some further bands of rain coming in here. whilst there may be some sunshine in between, can't rule out a few showers. again, the risk of some thunderstorms in there too. not quite as warm, probably, on tuesday — the highest temperatures 23, 2a degrees in lincolnshire and across east anglia. low pressure continues to dominate our weather, as it has done over the past few days. and in the next few days,
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the centre of the low will track from west to east, cutting off that supply of warmer southerly winds and bringing some more rain. there could be some sunshine around on wednesday, but i think we're going to find the showers or longer spells of rain developing more widely. probably the wetter weather towards the south—west of the uk. and those temperatures typically around 19—21 celsius. this very unsettled weather continues through the rest of the week, particularly wet in many places, i think, during thursday. but maybe western areas becoming a bit drier and a bit brighter with some sunshine on friday.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source live outside number 10 downing street. i'm here because on tuesday, the uk will be changing prime minister, borisjohnson will resign and liz truss will take over. she defeated rishi sunak and becomes a briton does not third female prime minister and says she has a bold plan to deal with the gust of living crisis. i will deal with bills and also with the long—term issues we have on energy supply. feet
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