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are you prepared to be in those what are going to be very long queues? there is the thing. we are made of strong stuff so we will put it to the test. yes, we will give it a go. laughter but there are some predictions that crowds could reach up to a million in the coming days. we put a little note to say - thank you for all that she's done. do you think you are going to come down for the lying in state with the family? i don't think we will because i think it will be a bit too busy for the kids. i think that is why we came down today because it is nice and relaxing today, like the calm before the storm, before it gets really busy. it will be an enormous operation for the transport system and the police — the met�*s commissioner on his first day in the job. it's a massive challenge for the metropolitan police and for me personally, but we have been preparing for many, many years. the ceremony will soon be replaced with simplicity as the quiet walk past the queen's coffin begins. lucy manning, bbc news.
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lucy is outside buckingham palace now. we're getting some sense for the people you talked to up just the links they are prepared to go to to make sure they are part of this and they get to see the cottage and hopefully the coffin lying state. that's right. the crowds are lighter today than they have been at the weekend, so people did get the chance here to go around green park and to look at the flowers and go round buckingham palace outside, but i think on wednesday, that the mood will change again, the crowds. to certainly around westminster, around the banks of the thames with hundreds of thousands of people expected. while here we have had people with their phones filming as the ceremony has gone past and when the ceremony has gone past and when the king came out, the chairs, we will return to a much more sombre mood. the lying in state will start at 5pm on wednesday and it will last
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until 6am in the morning of the queen's funeral. the rules are strict, people have been told not to bring any chairs because the crowds will have two, the keys will have to keep moving. there are only allowed to bring one small bag and there will be security checks there will be travel disruption. and we have heard from the premier league, more sporting disruption as well, a few more games have been postponed, chelsea's home game against liverpool, man united's game against leeds and brighton's game that was already postponed will stay that way. but i think the significance of the week returns here tomorrow to buckingham palace, the queen's coffin returns to buckingham palace, returns to her home. lucy at buckingham palace, thank you. the queen's coffin or return to buckingham palace tomorrow but for the moment, the coffin is lying in rest at st giles�* cathedral in edinburgh. these are the scenes we
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can see outside the cathedral as people are making their way inside. people are respectfully processing passed the coffin, paying their respects. their own personal tribute and a quiet moment of reflection for the queen. as she lies there at rest in st giles�* cathedral. let�*s stop now to nicholas witchell. —— lets talk. we saw people paying their own personal tributes at the cathedral, we have heard so many trees today and we have had a tribute from prince harry? yes trees today and we have had a tribute from prince harry? yes and i think looking _ tribute from prince harry? yes and i think looking at _ tribute from prince harry? yes and i think looking at those _ tribute from prince harry? yes and i think looking at those pictures - tribute from prince harry? yes and i think looking at those pictures from | think looking at those pictures from edinburgh, we will see that magnified many times over once the coffin is in westminster hall of the lying in state, it�*s going to be on a huge scale. but you mentioned a tribute from prince harry, yes indeed, a touching tribute in which he describes his grandmother as a guiding compass, anti—speaks
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directly to granny. he writes, i am forever grateful for all of our first meeting, from earliest childhood memories to meeting you for the first time as my commander—in—chief, and to the first moment he met my darling wife and hugged your beloved great—grandchildren. i cherish these times are shared with the filter then i think what many consider to be an attempt to reconcile with his father, he writes, we now honour my father, he writes, we now honour my father in his new role as king charles iii, and that i think does feel like an attempt to reach out to his father, who of course included that expression of love in his broadcast on friday. no reference, though, to his brother.— broadcast on friday. no reference, though, to his brother. nick, thank ou. you. our top story this evening... queen elizabeth�*s coffin lies addressed in edinburgh, giving the people of scotland a chance to pay tribute and bid farewell. coming up later, the latest on the
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economy with some fares we may already be in a recession. stay with us on bbc news, where we will bring you continuing coverage of events plus analysis maritimo correspondence in the uk and around the world. ukraine says it�*s retaken as many as 20 towns and villages in the east of the country in the space of the last twenty four hours — with russian troops in retreat. russia has hit back overnight with missile strikes on the city of kharkiv causing blackouts. but president putin�*s tactics have been criticised by one of the leading military commanders fighting on the ground. officially the kremlin says its forces are �*regrouping�* — not retreating. this was the situation just a week ago with russia still in control of much of the east of the country. but the latest mapping in the last 2a hours shows significant gains to the east and as far south as izyum.
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from the capital kyiv, our ukraine correspondent james waterhouse sent this report. russian ambitions once again abandoned. its pro—war symbol, a familiar calling card. shells used to flatten towns still in their boxes. moscow is calling this a regrouping but all signs point to a hasty retreat. kyiv is claiming to have taken back all of the kharkiv region. even russian officials admit to being outnumbered by 8—1 here. "izyum was, is, and always will be ukraine�*s," says this soldier. this is territory which russia fought hard to take. lost in the space of days. translation: we have been waiting
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for them almost half a year _ and we are so happy. whenever russia is frustrated in this war, it responds. this time accused of striking civilian targets like this power station. leaving people in kharkiv stuck on the metro from the resulting loss of power. ukraine is pushing on more than one front. that has risk but it is enough to worry one of putin�*s biggest allies, the chechen leader ramzan kadyrov. "if changes are not made," he said in an online post, "i will be forced to go to the country�*s leadership." this is the most significant russian withdrawal since they pulled out from kyiv in late march. the human costs for both countries remains huge and on whether it is a price worth paying, the majority of ukrainians feel there is no choice. this is about survival.
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and the idea of making any concessions to russia remains unfathomable. the kremlin anticipated taking ukraine in a matter of days. 201 of them later, it�*s going backwards. james waterhouse, bbc news, in kyiv. our russia editor steve rosenberg is in moscow. steve, what�*s been the reaction there? this looks like a significant setback for russia.- this looks like a significant setback for russia. , , ., setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has — setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has said _ setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has said today, _ setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has said today, it - setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has said today, it says - setback for russia. this is what the kremlin has said today, it says that what it calls the special military operation in ukraine will continue until all its objectives are met. the authorities here are not calling what happened in north—eastern ukraine or its rate, russian troops are regrouping, they say, but not everyone believes that here and a lot of pro—russian at social media groups and telegram channels have accused the russian defence ministry of making big mistakes on the battlefield. what about vladimir putin? it strikes me that for more
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than 20 years amongst the russian elite he has had a reputation of being a winner, someone who always manages to extricate himself from difficulties and comes out on top, but that changed on the 24th of february when he ordered the invasion of ukraine. he failed to secure the swift victory he wanted and russia has got bogged down in ukraine and as we have heard has actually been losing territory it seized and it seems to me that when an authoritarian leader starts to lose that aura of invincibility that is potentially a problem for him. steve, in moscow, thanks forjoining us. james, how significant is this? the fee is russia could hit back doubly hard? —— the fear. the fee is russia could hit back doubly hard? -- the fear.- the fee is russia could hit back doubly hard? -- the fear. yes, but first of all. — doubly hard? -- the fear. yes, but first of all, ukraine _ doubly hard? -- the fear. yes, but first of all, ukraine is _ doubly hard? -- the fear. yes, but first of all, ukraine is continuing i first of all, ukraine is continuing to surprise us and is showing it can not only do defence but fence and it is learning and showing it can do it
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by managing to tie together infantry tanks and long—range missiles, intelligence, all of those things come together to coordinate in a way we have not seen before. what has happened here is a diversion and essentially they made a big song and dance about a big offensive in the south, but all the while building up forces in the north. clearly russian military intelligence did not manage to spot it and on they have gone. that shows ukraine can do this in a way we did not think, and it is also making a political point, it is telling the rest of the world, we think we can win this war so all of those arguments you hear in the west saying, should the west carry on giving it support because maybe it will be supporting a stalemate? there�*s not a stalemate at the moment. then what might happen now? will russia retaliate? if so, how? use of nuclear weapons is part of their modus operandi when you look at their war plans, they always refer to it and vladimir putin has
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referred to it himself, that is the great fear, that a wounded russian bear could be even more dangerous. james, thanks forjoining us. covid infections in the uk have fallen to their lowest level since october last year. the office for national statistics says fewer than a million people had covid at the end of august — that�*s about one in 70, down from one in 15 in mid—july. health experts are predicting a rise in infections this winter and are urging the most vulnerable to get boosterjabs. latest figures show that the uk economy grew more slowly than expected for the month ofjuly. the office for national statistics says it grew by 0.2%, after dropping by 0.6% injune. 0ur economics editor faisal islam can tell us more. hopes of a bounceback in the economy injuly are now dashed and there�*s now some evidence of businesses cutting back on energy use. injuly the economy did grow
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but by less than expected. 0verall there was no growth between may and july, but look at the figures since april. there are now concerns the uk may already be in a recession — decline essentially over six months. september�*s figure may be impacted by the extra bank holiday for the queen�*s state funeral. but the real question is what happens from here. much depends on the detail of the government�*s energy package. for a typical household, energy bills are normally around £,1000 a year, but earlier this year reached nearly £,200. 0fgem had announced it would go up to £3,519 next month, and it was forecast to surge even more, to over 5k next year. that will change — to the equivalent of £2,500 a year until 2024, after the energy price guarantee. so materially smaller, half of some of the forecasts for next year, but it is still a rise on current
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levels that have already caused pain to many millions of households. the government won�*t put a cost on it, but the industry says £100 billion plus, with more needed to help businesses. but we are still unclear on detail here, as i said, on the business scheme, on the costings, including how much can be recouped from renegotiating contracts with energy firms that have enjoyed windfalls. on some of the mechanisms, with energy companies saying bills will be readjusted by the end of the week. all of that should bring down inflation, and shorten or lessen the recession and provide relief to households, by how much? well, it depends on detail we are yet to get. fiona. thanks forjoining us. england�*s cricketers finished the men�*s season you�*re watching the bbc news with ros atkins. a service of thanksgiving for queen elizabeth has taken place
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at st giles�* cathedral in edinburgh. crowds watched as king charles — accompanied by other senior members of the royal family — followed the queen�*s coffin on the shortjourney from the palace of holyroodhouse. queen elizabeth is now lying at rest in the cathedral for 2a—hours, so members of the public can pay their respects. before flying to edinburgh, king charles and the queen consort heard addresses of condolence from both the lords and the commons at westminster hall, on what has been the first visit to parliament as monarch for king charles iii. the monarch spoke of his mother�*s selfless duty, an example he pledged to follow. my lords, and members of the house of commons, i am deeply grateful for the addresses of condolence by the house of lords and the house of commons, which so touchingly encompass what our late sovereign, my beloved mother, the queen, meant to us all.
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as shakespeare says of the earlier queen elizabeth, "she was a pattern to all princes living." as i stand before you today, i cannot help but feel the weight of history which surrounds us, and which reminds us of the vital parliamentary traditions to which members of both houses dedicate yourselves with such personal commitment for the betterment of us all. parliament is the living and breathing instrument of our democracy. that your traditions are ancient, we see in the construction of this great hall. and the reminders of medieval predecessors of the office to which i have been called.
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and the tangible connections to my darling late mother we see all around us, from the fountain in new palace yard, which commemorates the late queen�*s silverjubilee, to the sundial in old palace yard for the goldenjubilee. the last audience i had with her, one of the reasons it was so shocking on the 8th to hear about her death, was because in that audience, she had been absolutely on it. the magnificent stained—glass window before me for the diamond jubilee, and so poignantly — and yet to be formally unveiled — the magnificent stained—glass window before me for the diamond jubilee, and so poignantly — and yet to be formally unveiled — your most generous gift to her late majesty to mark the unprecedented platinum jubilee which we celebrated only three months ago with such joyful hearts. the great bell of big ben —
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one of the most powerful symbols of our nation throughout the world — and housed within the elizabeth tower — also named for my mother�*s diamond jubilee, will mark the passage of the late queen�*s progress from buckingham palace to this parliament on wednesday. my lords, and members of the house of commons, we gather today in remembrance of the remarkable span of the queen�*s dedicated service to her nations and peoples. while very young, her late majesty pledged herself to serve her country and her people, and to maintain the precious principles of constitutional government which lie at the heart of our nation. this vow she kept with
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unsurpassed devotion. she set an example of selfless duty which, with god�*s help and your counsels, i am resolved faithfully to follow. national anthem
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as we�*ve been hearing, the queen will lie at rest tonight at st giles�* cathedral in edinburgh. tomorrow evening, her coffin will be flown to london — where hundreds of thousands of people are expected to pay their respects when her coffin lies in state in westminster hall — later this week. these are pictures coming in through edinburgh now and you can see members of the public filing past the queen�*s coffin to pay their respects. to look at some aspects of what is going to happen in london and some of the coming days, i am sure some of you watching have questions about the arrangements that will be in place, our home affairs correspondent daniel sam thatis affairs correspondent daniel sam that is with me. i was saying that the queens coffin is lying at rest now, it will lie in state at
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westminster, what is the difference? if you are lying in state, you are essentially lying in state in a big government building, in other countries it might be the parliament building or it might be the president�*s home. in the case of the uk, it is always westminster hall which is on the side of the main building containing the house of commons but it is essentially the same as you are seeing there in edinburgh but on a greater scale so a huge numbers of people will have the opportunity to walk past the coffin and say goodbye. typically in britain, lying in state is reserved for monarchs, though it has occasionally been given to other people, winston churchill, for example, in the past, in the recent past has laid in state, as did queen elizabeth the queen mother, but principally it would be a head of state, in other words a monarch. in
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state, in otherwords a monarch. in terms of people paying their respects, what can they do and what cannot they do as they passed the queen�*s coffin? cannot they do as they passed the queen's coffin?— queen's coffin? first of all, it starts on _ queen's coffin? first of all, it starts on wednesday's - queen's coffin? first of all, it i starts on wednesday's evening, queen's coffin? first of all, it - starts on wednesday's evening, and starts on wednesday�*s evening, and it ends at 6:30am on monday and it is 2a hours a day. as people passed through, they have to keep moving, be respectful, there is no photography, for example, people are expected to behave in a very decorous manner, as of course everybody will. what people aren�*t allowed to do is stop and take photographs and so on, it is supposed to be a walk in past goodbye. the problem in london is going to be the sheer numbers of people that are expected, 200,000 people that are expected, 200,000 people came to pay their respects to the queen mother, this could be much, much more than that. so, officials are worried about the length of the cues, many, many, many
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hours, and that is potentially an issue. and also there has to be quite strict security so they will effectively be the kind of security you have in an airport where you have to have a small bag, various items you cannot have, including, for example, liquids, so people will obviously need to have a drink with them but when they get to security, they will have to dispose of the liquid they are carrying with them. it is likely there will be sizeable queues, do we have details of where that queue will be? it queues, do we have details of where that queue will be?— that queue will be? it essentially starts at the _ that queue will be? it essentially starts at the entrance _ that queue will be? it essentially starts at the entrance to - starts at the entrance to westminster hall. at the moment, there is a holding place south of there is a holding place south of the river, one lady has already turn up the river, one lady has already turn up to stop the queue, but the head of the queue will become westminster hall, then it is going to wind down onto the north bank of the thames going west and over the bridge and it will pass along the south bank of the thames, and nobody really knows how big it will be but people are
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being told to bring food, bring water, they won�*t be able to camp out because it will keep moving, the queue, and of course there is a risk that if the queue gets very long, for example if there is a 20 or 30 hour wait, the queue will get closed 20 or 30 hours before 6:30am on monday morning so they may be a point where people come along and be told they cannot walk past the queen�*s coffin. and 6:30am on monday has presumably been chosen because the funeral itself will be a few hours later? after that, the queen has that coffin will move onto the gun carriage and then pulled through the streets of london, the short journey to westminster abbey by members of the royal navy. it is not pulled by horse, it is pulled by members of the royal navy because at queen victoria�*s funeral, the horses bolted, so traditionally since then it has always been pulled by sailors
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so 6:30am is the cut—off point because after that the formal ceremony for the funeral begins. it seems impossible to imagine a scenario where the queue is not very long, that poses a problem for the police, is the metropolitan police doing this on their own or our police being brought into the capital? police being brought into the caital? , , . police being brought into the caital? , _, police being brought into the caital? , , capital? this plan has been in place for a lona capital? this plan has been in place for a long time _ capital? this plan has been in place for a long time and _ capital? this plan has been in place for a long time and has _ capital? this plan has been in place for a long time and has been - capital? this plan has been in place| for a long time and has been revised and the metropolitan police are able to pull on resources from right across the uk, police will come from as far away as scotland and other forces around england and wales, and they will also get support from the armed forces, about 1500 are thought to be helping with the management of the queue and also there will be civilian stewards managing the queue, that is around the management of the numbers of people that will come to the lying in state and beyond that of course there is a massive security concerns about the funeral itself because not only will all of the royal family be there and some of the ceremonies are outside
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but also dozens and dozens of heads of states are expected to attend, including the president of the united states, so there is a huge security risk there, right from the issue around the posterity of pickpockets or protest at the lowest level right up to international terrorism at the highest level so it is a big task for the police but ahead of the metropolitan police who started hisjob ahead of the metropolitan police who started his job today said that he believes there is a good plan in place and he believes he can keep safe. , , .,, . . safe. there may be people watching thinkin: safe. there may be people watching thinking they _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to pay _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to pay their - thinking they want to pay their respects to the queen but it is not viable because of their health because they have young children, it is not viable for them to stand in a queue for hours and hours, our other preparations being put in place so people can pay their respects elsewhere?— people can pay their respects elsewhere? . .. , . people can pay their respects elsewhere? . . ., elsewhere? some people will want to take art in elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the _ elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the historical— elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the historical moment - take part in the historical moment and try to pay their respects in person but certainly the government
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and the royal family don�*t

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