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a huge united states, so there is a huge security risk there, right from the issue around the posterity of pickpockets or protest at the lowest level right up to international terrorism at the highest level so it is a big task for the police but ahead of the metropolitan police who started hisjob ahead of the metropolitan police who started his job today said that he believes there is a good plan in place and he believes he can keep safe. , , ,,, place and he believes he can keep safe. , , l,, a, a safe. there may be people watching thinkin: safe. there may be people watching thinking they _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to pay _ safe. there may be people watching thinking they want to pay their - thinking they want to pay their respects to the queen but it is not viable because of their health because they have young children, it is not viable for them to stand in a queue for hours and hours, our other preparations being put in place so people can pay their respects elsewhere?— people can pay their respects elsewhere? , a, , a, people can pay their respects elsewhere? , l, l, elsewhere? some people will want to take art in elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the _ elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the historical— elsewhere? some people will want to take part in the historical moment - take part in the historical moment and try to pay their respects in person but certainly the government and the royal family don't regard it as some kind of insult for people not to pay their respects in person so there are opportunities to lay flowers, as people already have been
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doing at windsor, at balmoral, at sandringham, at holyroodhouse in edinburgh, at hillsborough near belfast, cardiff, city hall, and actually in town halls and other public buildings all across the united kingdom, there are lots of places where people are laying flowers, books of condolences have been opened in many public places like town halls so people can go and write a message. in fact, the government is saying anyone can open a book of condolence in any kind of institution although the royal household will not be able to collect all of those books in and in the government guidance it says don't forget social media, if you just want to change your social media profile and make it more sombre colours or change something that your profile, all those ways of paying respect to the late queen are being welcomed, right from the top of the royal family all the way through government. i don't think people should feel like they have to
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go and take part in a line in state thoughi go and take part in a line in state though i think for most people who do manage to do it it will be an incredibly moving experience. just so we are clear, there is absolutely no system beyond the queue, in terms of paying respects to the queen's coffin? there is not going to be windows of time where people can attend or anything like that? you arrive, you stand in the queue and you see how long it takes. what arrive, you stand in the queue and you see how long it takes. what we uuite you see how long it takes. what we quite don't — you see how long it takes. what we quite don't know— you see how long it takes. what we quite don't know is _ you see how long it takes. what we quite don't know is how _ you see how long it takes. what we quite don't know is how the - you see how long it takes. what we quite don't know is how the queue. quite don't know is how the queue management will take place. it is not viable for people to literally stand in one place for 20, 30 hours, so there may be ways of leaving the queue to use the toilet or something like that, there will be some kind of queue management but essentially it is not a ticketed thing or something you can book online, it is a queue and that is how it is to be. and some people mayjust want to take part in the funeral itself on monday because there will be again hundreds of thousands, possibly more, in the capital on monday,
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people won't get a chance to see the coffin going by alice they are very, very lucky, but there will be that sense of attending, people in the transport system are warning that from wednesday onwards, the transport system in london is likely to become very overloaded. i was auoin to to become very overloaded. i was going to ask _ to become very overloaded. i was going to ask you _ to become very overloaded. i was going to ask you about _ to become very overloaded. i was going to ask you about wednesday because the queen's coffin will be flown to raf northolt and then taken to westminster, presumably that journey in itself will be viewed by many people, because everyone is aware of the route. i many people, because everyone is aware of the route.— aware of the route. i think people have realised _ aware of the route. i think people have realised since _ aware of the route. i think people have realised since the _ aware of the route. i think people have realised since the queen - aware of the route. i think people - have realised since the queen passed away on thursday that actually there are many opportunities for taking part in the ceremonies. there was an opportunity for the people of scotland to essentially watch her coffin drive all the way down from balmoral to edinburgh, and they will be opportunities in london tomorrow when the queen's body gets moved to buckingham palace tomorrow, and then
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on wednesday when she gets moved to westminster hall for the lying in state. , . westminster hall for the lying in state. ., ~ , ., , state. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed _ state. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed for _ state. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed for the _ state. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed for the moment. - state. 0k, daniel, thank you very much indeed for the moment. if. state. 0k, daniel, thank you very i much indeed for the moment. if you missed any of those details that daniel was outlining, you can also find them on the bbc news website. australia has announced there will be a national day of mourning for the queen — to be held three days after her funeral. the day has also been declared a public holiday. in sydney crowds gathered to mark the ascension of the king and to remember the queen — who visited 16 times during her reign. 0ur australia correspondent shaimaa khalil looks at her majesty's relationship with the country and its people. newsreel: welcome to this continent which is ours and yours. _ welcome to australia, welcomed the queen. | february 1954, queen elizabeth ii becomes the only reigning monarch to visit australia. that was a great day for those of us who had the luck - or foresight to be in sydney. the 27—year—old sovereign and her naval officer husband
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prince philip were no longerjust distant figures as australians got a glimpse of their head of state for the first time. it is my earnest hope that during the two months of my visit, i shall get to know you well and learn something of your achievements and your problems. the queen also got a taste of the aussie lifestyle. and for a bit of a contrast, - there were saturday afternoon at bondi beach, that is where half of sydney goes for surf— riding, and sunbathing. when the queen's ship the gothic sailed into the harbour here in sydney, it was a defining moment in the country's history. now, after her death, australians have mixed emotions. a profound sadness at the loss of the only monarch most people have known and hope for the king's reign. god save the king. all: god save the king!
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king charles iii is now australia's ruling monarch and head of state. but his mother's absence is deeply felt here. a bit emotional, like, it is still surreal that she has passed away and now we've got king charles. sad and happy, i mean, the queen has gone but there is a new king. ijust hope it goes well for charlie. i grew up singing god save the queen and today was the first time singing god save the king. i am so proud of charles but my heart aches for the queen. children sing: # waltzing matilda, waltzing...# there were many memorable moments during her visits, notjust the grand events but the outpouring of welcome and warmth from some of the crowds, and of course the endless bouquets. there were also some controversial encounters. former prime minister paul keating was nicknamed the lizard of oz when he did this. his arm around the royal waist... the gatherings weren't always friendly. there have been these protests and i think they will continue
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from now on until we get rid of the monarchy. republicans have long rejected a foreign sovereign being they head of state. but when the issue was put to the people in 1999 in a referendum, australians chose to stick with the queen, and the no vote won. leading the republicans' side was malcolm turnbull, who later became prime minister. i have no doubt they will be another referendum. i said next time we vote on this will not be before the end of the queen's reign, 0k? the queen's reign has ended but that doesn't mean there will be a referendum next week or even next year, but the case for a republican australia has got nothing to do with the personality of the monarch. the issue is simply, do you think the head of state should be an australian citizen or the monarch of another country? that is the question.
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during her tours, the queen met first nations people as well as elders. and while many indigenous australians have mourned her death, others spoke of the trauma of colonisation and the painful legacy of the crown. the queen's final visit to australia was in 2011, just after floods and a cyclone hit queensland. we are here to pay tribute to the resilience and courage of queenslanders who bravely picked up their lives and rebuilt them after a period of great adversity. australia will remember the queen not only as the much respected and admired monarch and head of state but also as a true friend of the country and its people. shaimaa khalil, bbc news sydney. throughout the day, people having been paying tribute throughout her reign, the queen saw
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many prime ministers come and go. the last audience i had with her, one of the reasons it was so shocking to hear about her death was because in that audience, she had been absolutely on it,... that because in that audience, she had been absolutely on it,...— been absolutely on it,... that was 'ust two been absolutely on it,... that was just two days _ been absolutely on it,... that was just two days before. _ been absolutely on it,... that was just two days before. two - been absolutely on it,... that was just two days before. two days . just two days before. two days before her— just two days before. two days before her death. _ just two days before. two days before her death. she - just two days before. two days before her death. she was - just two days before. two days - before her death. she was actively focused on geopolitics, uk politics, quoting statesmen from the 19505, it was quite extraordinary. she quoting statesmen from the 1950s, it was quite extraordinary.— was quite extraordinary. she seemed well? she seemed _ was quite extraordinary. she seemed well? she seemed very _ was quite extraordinary. she seemed well? she seemed very bright, - was quite extraordinary. she seemed well? she seemed very bright, very i well? she seemed very bright, very focused. well? she seemed very bright, very focused- she _ well? she seemed very bright, very focused. she was _ well? she seemed very bright, very focused. she was clearly _ well? she seemed very bright, very focused. she was clearly not - well? she seemed very bright, very focused. she was clearly not well, i focused. she was clearly not well, and i think that was the thing that i found so, so
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and i think that was the thing that ifound so, so moving, when i heard about, when we all heard about her death two days later, iju5t thought how incredible that her sense of duty had kept her going in the way that it had. ~ ., duty had kept her going in the way that it had. ~ . ., , ., duty had kept her going in the way that it had. ~ . ., i. ., ., that it had. what are your favourite memories of _ that it had. what are your favourite memories of the _ that it had. what are your favourite memories of the queen? _ that it had. what are your favourite memories of the queen? she - that it had. what are your favourite memories of the queen? she had i that it had. what are your favourite - memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge — memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge of— memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge of history, _ memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge of history, of _ memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge of history, of the - memories of the queen? she had such a knowledge of history, of the sweep l a knowledge of history, of the sweep of this country's progress of over 70 years, why i think she should be elizabeth the great, by the way, because if you look at what happened to this country in her reign, 5he to this country in her reign, she was able to reassure and no matter how bad things were, 5he was able to reassure and no matter how bad things were, she could always encourage you. find
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how bad things were, she could always encourage you. and with those weekly meetings. _ always encourage you. and with those weekly meetings, we _ always encourage you. and with those weekly meetings, we have _ always encourage you. and with those weekly meetings, we have heard - always encourage you. and with those i weekly meetings, we have heard prime minister is passed talk about how much they valued those meetings, it occurred to me that when so much might be going on in parliament, wa5 might be going on in parliament, was there a point when you thought, i know important but i am not sure i've got the time? wa5 know important but i am not sure i've got the time? was there ever a time when you like that? the audiences? _ time when you like that? the audiences? no, _ time when you like that? the audiences? no, you - time when you like that? tue: audiences? no, you must be time when you like that? ti2 audiences? no, you must bejoking! the audiences wereju5t audiences? no, you must bejoking! the audiences were just a fantastic break from everything else, the audiences were just a fantastic breakfrom everything else, and so the audiences were a kind of... so, they were a highlight? of course. they were a wonderful moment of tranquillity. i would say we've got a terrible problem with brexit, we've got to get the bill through, or we've got to make sure that we come out of the european union, people had voted for it and it has got to be done. she would listen to
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me and she would not and she would ask questions and her method with the prime minister is was really to try to just help them with advice of the most general kind, and that is what she did. the most general kind, and that is what she did-— what she did. during the covid andemic what she did. during the covid pandemic when _ what she did. during the covid pandemic when you _ what she did. during the covid pandemic when you yourself i what she did. during the covid i pandemic when you yourself were extremely ill and the queen made a speech to reassure the nation and she said we will meet again, soon, how important was that speech? what role did that perform, do you think? i remember when we were working with a palace to organise it, we knew that even if you got me and the leader of the, every single member of the cabinet and all the pop stars you could find in the world and you got us all together to try to get a message to the british public, it wouldn't have the same impact that broadcast. the wouldn't have the same impact that broadcast. ,, ., ., , , broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the — broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the duke _ broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the duke of— broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the duke of edinburgh - broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the duke of edinburgh and i broadcast. the queen had to bury her husband the duke of edinburgh and it| husband the duke of edinburgh and it later emerged that downing street ——
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downing street staff had had a party on the eve of the funeral, i am wondering when you saw the queen after that, wondering when you saw the queen afterthat, how wondering when you saw the queen after that, how did you get past that? �* .. , after that, how did you get past that? �* , ., ., ., that? because of her great, great sense of constitutional _ that? because of her great, great sense of constitutional function, i sense of constitutional function, she never got into that sort of conversation. she was really absolutely focused on what she saw as the important issues. so, it was never discussed? ida. as the important issues. so, it was never discussed?— as the important issues. so, it was never discussed? no, absolutely not. let's talk about _ never discussed? no, absolutely not. let's talk about our _ never discussed? no, absolutely not. let's talk about our new _ never discussed? no, absolutely not. let's talk about our new king, - let's talk about our new king, charles iii. how do you think he will be different to the king? i think if you look at what he has donein think if you look at what he has done in his life, it has already been pretty remarkable, he has done a lot of very good stuff, whether it is an architectural built
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environment, agriculture, he has been a profit ahead of his time on the environment more generally, and he quoted hamlet and his wonderful speech the other day, and i think that now that he has been put on, to quote hamlet, he will prove most royal, he will prove most tingly. borisjohnson, thank royal, he will prove most tingly. boris johnson, thank you royal, he will prove most tingly. borisjohnson, thank you very much. the queen for that death is being marked in ireland. her visit to ireland in 2011 was widely seen as a landmark in relations between the two countries. in a city of cork, many people remember her visit with great affection. 0ur many people remember her visit with great affection. our special correspondent is in cork and sends this report. she had a way about her that brought out the best in cork,
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warm, open, a place to bind old wounds with humour. joking in the market with the fishmonger. such a lovely woman. _ market with the fishmonger. such a lovely woman, huge _ market with the fishmonger. such a lovely woman, huge grace - market with the fishmonger. such a lovely woman, huge grace and - market with the fishmonger. such a j lovely woman, huge grace and huge dignity. �*i�*i lovely woman, huge grace and huge diuni .", .,, lovely woman, huge grace and huge diuni _q .,, ., lovely woman, huge grace and huge diuni ."y ., ., lovely woman, huge grace and huge diuni . ,. dignity. 11 years have passed since the visit but _ dignity. 11 years have passed since the visit but for _ dignity. 11 years have passed since the visit but for those _ dignity. 11 years have passed since the visit but for those present, - dignity. 11 years have passed since the visit but for those present, it i the visit but for those present, it is a date sealed in memory. i think history gets _ is a date sealed in memory. i think history gets you — is a date sealed in memory. i think history gets you windows - is a date sealed in memory. i think history gets you windows where i history gets you windows where opportunities can be taken, you can go on being bitter and arguing over something that happened a hundred years ago or you can kind of say, we are neighbours and we have a lot more in common than divides us. it is history, we will remember it, it was horrible stuff when it happened but let's make our own history and move things forward. the but let's make our own history and move things forward.— move things forward. the visit to ireland move things forward. the visit to ireland was _ move things forward. the visit to ireland was about _ move things forward. the visit to ireland was about the _ move things forward. the visit to ireland was about the formal i ireland was about the formal gestures, hair bowing her head to the dead of the irish revolution in
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dublin, a defining moment in a troubled history. and when i met him in cork, the prime minister of ireland said the queen's gesture had been a powerful moment for reconciliation. i been a powerful moment for reconciliation.— been a powerful moment for reconciliation. i thought it was a very poignant — reconciliation. i thought it was a very poignant moment, - reconciliation. i thought it was a very poignant moment, i - reconciliation. i thought it was a i very poignant moment, i thought it was an extraordinary moment that the head of the british state would come and honour and respect those who fought and died in the irish war of independence. it was a great, great gesture and more than a gesture, i think and act that really meant a lot to people. it think and act that really meant a lot to people-— lot to people. it was in cork that the queen _ lot to people. it was in cork that the queen met _ lot to people. it was in cork that the queen met the _ lot to people. it was in cork that the queen met the heart - lot to people. it was in cork that the queen met the heart of i lot to people. it was in cork that i the queen met the heart of ireland. building peace through the power of the purely human. 100 is ago, the ruins of war dominated cork, parts of the city destroyed by british forces. these memorials to two of its lord mayers, one assassinated by
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undercover police, his successor died on hunger strike in a british jail. yet above them at city hall today, a symbol of change, the irish flag flying at half mast for a british queen. inside, a book of condolence filled with warm messages for the queen and her family. affection for the queen here is deeply rooted in her support for the peace process, her death comes at a time when relations between the republic and the united kingdom are more strained than they have been for decades over the row of the northern ireland protocol. the messages call her a healer, a peacemaker. messages call her a healer, a peacemaker-_ messages call her a healer, a peacemaker. messages call her a healer, a eacemaker. ., , ., , peacemaker. your hope is that this text merry moment _ peacemaker. your hope is that this text merry moment in _ peacemaker. your hope is that this text merry moment in history i peacemaker. your hope is that this text merry moment in history with | text merry moment in history with this period of mourning provides the opportunity for a reset in what are pretty difficult anglo—irish relationships at the moment. i pretty difficult anglo-irish relationships at the moment. i would like to think —
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relationships at the moment. i would like to think that — relationships at the moment. i would like to think that the _ relationships at the moment. i would like to think that the visit _ relationships at the moment. i would like to think that the visit of - like to think that the visit of queen— like to think that the visit of queen elizabeth ii to ireland and her passing will give us all time for reflection and will remind us of the need _ for reflection and will remind us of the need to— for reflection and will remind us of the need to proactively nurture the relationship between britain and ireland, — relationship between britain and ireland, to enhance it in the time ahead _ ireland, to enhance it in the time ahead and — ireland, to enhance it in the time ahead and that this moment gives us that opportunity for reflection and resetting — that opportunity for reflection and resetting in a good way that relationship. it resetting in a good way that relationship.— resetting in a good way that relationship. resetting in a good way that relationshi -. ., , ., ., relationship. it was often said that the queen rose _ relationship. it was often said that the queen rose above _ relationship. it was often said that the queen rose above politics, i the queen rose above politics, perhaps in ireland it is more apt to say she expressed its most noble purpose, to offer hope out of the accumulated grease of history. as king charles mourned the death of his mother, camilla has become queen consort, robert was unthinkable a couple of decades ago. daniela relph examines how public attitudes have
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changed. 0nce once a vilified figure now being rated warmed —— warmly by the crowd. it was not easy at the beginning but she conducted herself with such extraordinary grace and dignity and she is now found a very important place in the hearts of the british people. these are heavy burdens to bear, and they need each other, and all great monarchs have had a great consort. ., :: , consort. together in their 20s until the relationship _ consort. together in their 20s until the relationship faltered, - consort. together in their 20s until the relationship faltered, she i consort. together in their 20s until the relationship faltered, she was. consort. together in their 20s until| the relationship faltered, she was a significant figure in the king's life long before their marriage. she faced criticism after the royal divorce, then the sudden death of diana princess of wales, it all forced camilla to step back. but
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there was a gradual carefully managed re—emergence into the spotlight. it marked the start of a slow shift in public opinion. culminating in their wedding in 2005, supported by the royalfamily, she was now one of them. it has been a turbulentjourney she was now one of them. it has been a turbulent journey through she was now one of them. it has been a turbulentjourney through public life for the queen consort, but camilla's new role will be vital. she has obviously brought stability and personal happiness to the king, and personal happiness to the king, and she will now be crucial to the success of his reign. it and she will now be crucial to the success of his reign.— success of his reign. it wasn't alwa s success of his reign. it wasn't always easy _ success of his reign. it wasn't always easy for _ success of his reign. it wasn't always easy for her _ success of his reign. it wasn't always easy for her but i success of his reign. it wasn't always easy for her but they i success of his reign. it wasn't i always easy for her but they have managed to stay together and they seem to be very happy and the nation seem to be very happy and the nation seem to be very happy and the nation seem to have warmed to her, which is great, because i think she's wonderful. great, because i think she's wonderful-— great, because i think she's wonderful. ,, ~' ., , , ., wonderful. she knows him inside out and i think she _ wonderful. she knows him inside out and i think she will _ wonderful. she knows him inside out and i think she will support - wonderful. she knows him inside out and i think she will support him i and i think she will support him with whatever he does for the country — with whatever he does for the country |_ with whatever he does for the count . ~ , with whatever he does for the count . ~' , ., country. i think he needs all the su ort country. i think he needs all the support he _ country. i think he needs all the support he can _ country. i think he needs all the support he can get, _ country. i think he needs all the
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support he can get, doesn't i country. i think he needs all the| support he can get, doesn't he? country. i think he needs all the i support he can get, doesn't he? are s-teakin support he can get, doesn't he? speaking out on the causes support he can get, doesn't he? bin; speaking out on the causes she support he can get, doesn't he? speaking out on the causes she has been passionate about want to stop now. ., ., , now. one in four women in this country will _ now. one in four women in this country will suffer— now. one in four women in this country will suffer domestic i country will suffer domestic violence in their lifetime, one in four. ,, , violence in their lifetime, one in four. ,, . , ., violence in their lifetime, one in four. ,, . ., ,. four. supporting victims of domestic violence will — four. supporting victims of domestic violence will continue _ four. supporting victims of domestic violence will continue to _ four. supporting victims of domestic violence will continue to be - four. supporting victims of domestic violence will continue to be a - violence will continue to be a priority. she also brings a lightness of touch to official duties, including the surprise appearance on eastenders for the jubilee. b. appearance on eastenders for the jubilee. �* ., , ., appearance on eastenders for the jubilee. �* ., ,, ,, jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away- _ jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at _ jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at the _ jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at the age _ jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at the age of - jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at the age of 75 i jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the doctor away. at the age of 75 she | jubilee. a drop in a day keeps the l doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping _ doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping up — doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping up when _ doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping up when many - doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping up when many of i doctor away. at the age of 75 she is now stepping up when many of her| now stepping up when many of her friends are retired and stepping back. they believe she will thrive in her new role. she back. they believe she will thrive in her new role.— in her new role. she is down to earth and _ in her new role. she is down to earth and normal _ in her new role. she is down to earth and normal like - in her new role. she is down to earth and normal like the i in her new role. she is down to earth and normal like the rest| in her new role. she is down to i earth and normal like the rest of the nation, but she has massive responsibilities, and so, i think we are very lucky. fits responsibilities, and so, i think we are very lucky-— responsibilities, and so, i think we are very lucky. as the king takes on the 'ob he are very lucky. as the king takes on the job he has _ are very lucky. as the king takes on the job he has waited _ are very lucky. as the king takes on the job he has waited for— are very lucky. as the king takes on the job he has waited for for - the job he has waited for for so long, he does so with the woman he
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has always referred to as his beloved wife by his side. throughout the day, people having been paying tribute and sharing their memories of the queen. 0ur correspondent helena wilkinson reports from windsor. as you can see behind me, huge crowds once again today here in windsor. a huge number of people have come to lay flowers, share stories about her majesty the queen. windsor was a town that she loved, we know that it was her home for the last two and a half years, her permanent home. it was a place, over the years, where she cared about local issues and the one event that she went to every year was the royal windsor horse show and i'm very pleased to say i've got with me the director of the horse show, simon brooks—ward. simon, first of all, your thoughts on the passing of the queen. well, we are exceptionally sad here.
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the queen was so involved in the royal windsor horse show. really involved, you know, took a great deal of interest in everything we did. and she was a real guiding light for us and we are going to miss her dreadfully. she attended every single year, didn't she? every single one, from 1943 when she won a competition in the private driving class, through to this year, when she won the supreme championships on the friday of royal windsor horse show, which was a great achievement. so you must have spent a quite a bit of time with the queen when she came to the show every year. are you able to give us an insight into what the conversations were, how she was, when she was at the show? sparkling, is is how i'd describe it. absolutelyjoyful, she had this beaming smile, the queen absolutely loved the royal windsor horse show, we loved having her there. and you know, she was just like everybody else,
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in the sense that when she won in one of the show rings, outer rings, she loved receiving rosettes and trophies, as much as all of us. and she was disappointed when she lost. so she was very much a friend to the show and actually participated and supported and did all sorts of different things for us. and what in the conversations did you have, if you recall anything memorable from your time that he spent with her? it was all, it was funny. and it was always engaging, always insightful. i remember one particular time where the queen had just won the haflinger class which is a sort of breed of horse in one of the outer arenas and i strode up, nodded about whatever, and the queen looked at me and this huge smile came over her face and out of her pockets on her gilet that she was wearing
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came five or six rosettes and she just turned around and said, today, it's fantastic." and you knew that all those rosettes and trophies and everything else would go back up to windsor castle and would be on the dining room table that night. because she was so thrilled to win and it was lovely. and such an in—depth knowledge about horses, about ponies, she knew so much, maybe more than some who actually took part? always. the queen is very well known for her racing interests, but what people really don't realise is the breadth of interests that she had throughout the whole of the equestrian world and community, ranging from the military horses, the racing horses, to showing horses. and, in fact, the queen actually, i think, was responsible for making seven rare breeds of ponies and horses actually not only survive, but thrive. and that is a legacy
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that nobody can give. i would say, in terms of her knowledge, i would say nobody in this country would know more about horses than the queen. quite incredible, really, and when i think of pictures of the queen at the horse show, i think of her beaming in her car, often arriving driving herself in years before. and it was a private event in her diary, wasn't it? so she could feel relaxed there. unlike anything else, and this includes royal ascot or whatever event she went to, that this was very private. this is only 300 yards away from the queen's front door. so it's in her park, her parkland, in her setting and it was hers. the queen and other members of the royal family have always been able to come to royal windsor horse show and just relax in a private way, and, actually, i remember that nobody, you know, that was near the queen actually knew that it was the queen,
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because she looked so part of the country set, she wasn't there to be, you know, grand or whatever on stage. the queen was there in her relaxed environment, which is lovely. what is wonderful, i suppose, if we look back to earlier this year is the big show that you put on for thejubilee celebrations. did you speak to her after that and ask her what she thought of it? you're asking me some very personal questions, because of course i have my memories of the queen and what she said afterwards, but... what i will say is this, is that the queen, when she came to the event, and it was the last event that she actually sat through in its entirety for 90 minutes, the platinumjubilee celebration, when the queen got out of her car car and there was this roar, i had a tear in my eye, it was so emotional.
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and when the queen left, she was gracious enough to tell me what she thought and it was all positive and, actually, went away with a great smile and having enjoyed the evening, which was actually for all of us, the 1,300 participants, 600 horses, and everybody else involved with the event, was all that mattered. everyone at the show will of course miss her deeply and the horses as well. yes, particularly the horses. the queen had a unique bond with horses and ponies and was always one of those people, almost horse whisperer. she understood the temperament of a horse so much better than all of us. but from our point of view in the horse show office, the people, we are going to miss our guiding light and a huge support to us throughout the years and giving us so much good advice and also a sense of fun as well. lovely memories.
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thank you very much for sharing them with us. simon brooks—ward, thank you very much indeed, director of the royal windsor horse show and here in windsor at the castle, the queen around the area, she was able to when she was well enough enjoyed the great park, enjoy riding horses, very happy here in windsor and as you can see, once again behind me, the number of people who are here to pay their respects, we have seen thousands and thousands come over the last four days. as we have been discussing during this hour, queen elizabeth is now lying at rest in st giles' cathedral for 2h hours and the first members of the public have begun filing past to pay their respects, and we can see some of those pictures coming in now from st giles' cathedral in edinburgh. a special programme on today's events will follow shortly. it is worth saying that after the coffin lies in rest overnight, on
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wednesday the coffin will be flown from edinburgh to central london where the queen will spend a final night at buckingham palace. we also understand that on wednesday afternoon the queen's coffin will then travel from buckingham palace to the palace of westminster, christ will be able to watch as the journey goes through central london on thursday marks the first of four full days the queen's coffin will lie in state in westminster hall, hundreds of thousands of members of the public are expected... you can find full details on the bbc news website, but essentially there will be one long queue heading towards miss minister hall as well. it is not possible to estimate how long
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that you will be, daniel telling us 200,000 people paid their respects so we can expect those numbers to be considerable, the calculation is for those overseeing this will be the opportunity to file past often will happen at 6:30am a few hours before the queen's funeral begins and it is anticipated at some point on sunday we assume those overseeing this aspect, we need to take a decision aspect, we need to take a decision as to when it is no longer possible for people tojoin as to when it is no longer possible for people to join the queue because they will not reach the coffin by 6:30. these are live pictures coming in from edinburgh. 6:30. these are live pictures coming infrom edinburgh. as 6:30. these are live pictures coming in from edinburgh. as you can see, edinburgh is the focus at the moment because the queen's coffin is lying in rest. 0ver
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because the queen's coffin is lying in rest. over in st giles' cathedral. we have been seeing members of the public filing past or are close enough edinburgh, who have already been making their way. they have not... the coffin will lie in rest for 2h hours, and we are hearing from daniel sanford there are of course a number of different places around the country where people can pay their respects.
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in particular in edinburgh where the cows were five or ten deep in places, and that was before the queen's coffin was taken to the palace of holyroodhouse. her coffin lay in the throne room overnight on sunday, before being moved to st giles' cathedral, whereas i've been discussing, it will lie in rest. today was the first opportunity for members of the public to file plastic queen's coffin. yesterday we saw her freeing transported... their opportunities as the courtiers travelled along the road. many people came out to greet the route and pay their respects as it passed,
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but in terms of being able to file past the coffin itself, today has provided that first opportunity for members of the public to reach edinburgh. there will be further opportunities, the process of people paying their respects in london will begin on wednesday evening. it will then continue through until thursday, and it's worth noting that process of people queueing up to pay their respects, as we seek king charles iii stepping out of the car, which was bringing him... let's see who else is accompanying him and we see the queen consort as well. we were just learning about their marriage in a report in while ago, and they move into st giles' cathedral in edinburgh to continue to pay their respects to queen elizabeth. there is ongoing coverage
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on the bbc news website as well, with updates as the nation continues to mourn queen elizabeth the at the bbc news website. now here on the bbc, a further special programme as we continue our coverage. good evening and welcome to this special programme, scotland the vigil. denied the queen's four children will stand guard around her coffin as it lays it rest in st
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giles' cathedral in edinburgh. hundreds of people have already filed past the coffin since the doors were opened to the public a short time ago. 0utside so many people willing to wait however long they need to, and it could be many hours, so that they get their chance to say a personal farewell to the queen. the king and his brothers and sisters arrived at st giles' a short time ago, and will be shortly taking their place around the queen's coffin. sally magnusson is at st giles'. �* ., giles'. and the king and the princess royal _ giles'. and the king and the princess royal taking i giles'. and the king and the princess royal taking their i giles'. and the king and the i princess royal taking their places around the coffin, and their brothers on the other side. facing out beside the members of the royal company of archers, who have been
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guarding their mother's coffin. amid all the rush and noise of their formal lives, this is a profoundly human time, as anyone who has stood by the coffin of the parent will know.
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and as the vigil comes to an end, the king and his three siblings walked down the nave of st giles', where they came this afternoon for a very beautiful service, to leave the cathedral. smiling. smiling at last. king charles. after what may have been a bit of an ordeal at the end of a gruelling day. sadness was
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etched on their faces as they stood vigil. getting into their car, where they will take the shortjourney back down the royal mile to the palace of holyroodhouse. after a very moving vigil, which was in a sense our vigil to the king's, the queen's children had to do it in the full glare of the cameras but it was perhaps a private moment.
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well, as the king and his siblings head back to the palace of holyroodhouse, let's reflect on what we have witnessed with the royal historian robert lacey and also the former private secretary to the then prince of wales marc leishman. and as sally said, very difficult. i mean, in full public glare, such a private moment for them.- mean, in full public glare, such a private moment for them. very, very difficult, private moment for them. very, very difficult. and — private moment for them. very, very difficult, and very _ private moment for them. very, very difficult, and very moving. _ private moment for them. very, very difficult, and very moving. and i private moment for them. very, very difficult, and very moving. and a i difficult, and very moving. and a whole series of things coming together in a week or ten days when things are coming togetherjust about every hour. i think sitting here watching that, i think a lot of people who have lost their mother or their father will perhaps identify with the emotion and the feelings and the immense shift going on in their lives. whilst everyone may not
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undertake that sort of vigil, people will have had their own arrangements and their own moments with a departed parent which after all is just about all of us.— departed parent which after all is just about all of us. robert lacey, the monarchy is the monarchy, isn't it? very public, you are in the public eye for a lot of the time. that is the essence of the job, as vi-il that is the essence of the job, as vigil would — that is the essence of the job, as vigil would have known working with prince _ vigil would have known working with prince charles that you are on constant _ prince charles that you are on constant display. and we have seen it all the _ constant display. and we have seen it all the time, but i think all today, — it all the time, but i think all today, prince charles did put it into words _ today, prince charles did put it into words very movingly. speaking to the _ into words very movingly. speaking to the scottish parliament as he has already— to the scottish parliament as he has already spoken on television. but then we _ already spoken on television. but then we saw them. it was a public display— then we saw them. it was a public display of— then we saw them. it was a public display of tribute to their mother, but it— display of tribute to their mother, but it was— display of tribute to their mother, but it was also their own personal
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mourning — but it was also their own personal mourning. and i think people will have _ mourning. and i think people will have been— mourning. and i think people will have been moved by that and i think the more _ have been moved by that and i think the more people who lived close will be inspired _ the more people who lived close will be inspired to follow their example perhaps _ be inspired to follow their example erha s. ., ~ be inspired to follow their example terha ts. ., ~' ., ,., be inspired to follow their example ”erhas. ., ~' ., , ., , be inspired to follow their example tterhas. . ~' . , ., , ., perhaps. talk about the history of what we are _ perhaps. talk about the history of what we are seeing, _ perhaps. talk about the history of what we are seeing, because i perhaps. talk about the history of what we are seeing, because the | what we are seeing, because the public are now filing past the coffin in st giles' cathedral and this has not happened very often, has it? no. vigils in the religious sense go back centuries. s0 no. vigils in the religious sense go back centuries.— no. vigils in the religious sense go back centuries. so far as we know in terms of a — back centuries. so far as we know in terms of a royal _ back centuries. so far as we know in terms of a royal vigil, _ back centuries. so far as we know in terms of a royal vigil, the _ back centuries. so far as we know in terms of a royal vigil, the first i terms of a royal vigil, the first precedent _ terms of a royal vigil, the first precedent for this was in 1936 after the death— precedent for this was in 1936 after the death of king george v, the queen's— the death of king george v, the queen's grandfather. his son edward viii became notorious for abdicating and becoming the duke of windsor, but he _ and becoming the duke of windsor, but he had — and becoming the duke of windsor, but he had this brilliant idea that he and _ but he had this brilliant idea that he and his— but he had this brilliant idea that he and his three brothers, he
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himself. _ he and his three brothers, he himself, his next brother the duke of york, _ himself, his next brother the duke of york, as — himself, his next brother the duke of york, as he then was, who became george _ of york, as he then was, who became george vi, _ of york, as he then was, who became george vi, the duke of gloucester and the _ george vi, the duke of gloucester and the duke of kent, should in their— and the duke of kent, should in their military uniforms stand vigil very much— their military uniforms stand vigil very much as we have just seen it. and the _ very much as we have just seen it. and the vision of the princess wasn't actually photographed. it is the subject of an oil painting —— the subject of an oil painting —— the video— the subject of an oil painting —— the video of the princes was not photographed. and then the next vi-il photographed. and then the next vigil was — photographed. and then the next vigil was for the queen mother, organised — vigil was for the queen mother, organised in 2002 by prince charles. and that _ organised in 2002 by prince charles. and that was the vigil of the princes, prince charles, prince andrew and prince edward. today we have seen princess anne there, the princess royal, which i think is the first time a woman has ever stood vigil around a monarch's coffin in history, isn't it? so
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vigil around a monarch's coffin in history, isn't it?— history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is. i history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is- i would _ history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is. i would say _ history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is. i would say it _ history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is. i would say it definitely i history, isn't it? so far as i know, it is. i would say it definitely is. l it is. i would say it definitely is. obviously— it is. i would say it definitely is. obviously a _ it is. i would say it definitely is. obviously a sign of times changing. mark, _ obviously a sign of times changing. mark, let's — obviously a sign of times changing. mark, let's talk about princess anne's role. she has been by her mother's side since she passed away at balmoral and she has stayed with her mother all the way through this journey, write their way through to london. �* journey, write their way through to london. . ., journey, write their way through to london. ~ ., _, , �*, london. indeed. and of course, it's only monday _ london. indeed. and of course, it's only monday and — london. indeed. and of course, it's only monday and here _ london. indeed. and of course, it's only monday and here we _ london. indeed. and of course, it's only monday and here we are i only monday and here we are in edinburgh. as things move towards london, you get the sense of that building of the national mood, i suppose. as we have heard today, when people actually see the hearse and they see the coffin for the first time, no amount of practice or rehearsal or forecasting can make any real difference until you see it
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in front of you. and again, it is an extraordinary thing that the princess royal, of course the roma family work incredibly hard —— the royal family. to see the princess royal by her mother �*s royal family. to see the princess royal by her mother '5 side is a poignant thing. there is a kind of synchronicity that works. as you say, we have heard the word gruelling. these are gruelling hours and gruelling days and it's important in all of these moments to find little moments of self retreat, nourishment, call it what you like. because the duty is profound and demanding. 0f because the duty is profound and demanding. of course, that is what duty and monarchy is. the demanding. of course, that is what duty and monarchy is.— duty and monarchy is. the first tlim se duty and monarchy is. the first glimpse we _ duty and monarchy is. the first glimpse we got. _ duty and monarchy is. the first glimpse we got, you _ duty and monarchy is. the first
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glimpse we got, you would i duty and monarchy is. the first. glimpse we got, you would expect duty and monarchy is. the first - glimpse we got, you would expect the queen— glimpse we got, you would expect the queen to _ glimpse we got, you would expect the queen to be close to her daughter and her_ queen to be close to her daughter and her sons. but i thought the first charmingly human indication we -ot first charmingly human indication we got the _ first charmingly human indication we got the closeness between mother and daughter— got the closeness between mother and daughter happened during covid. do you remember, there was an occasion during _ you remember, there was an occasion during covid _ you remember, there was an occasion during covid when the queen wanted to pay— during covid when the queen wanted to pay tribute to some nurses, and it had _ to pay tribute to some nurses, and it had to _ to pay tribute to some nurses, and it had to be — to pay tribute to some nurses, and it had to be virtual with the queen's— it had to be virtual with the queen's and ipad. that was when we discovered _ queen's and ipad. that was when we discovered the queen had an ipad that you _ discovered the queen had an ipad that you used. princess anne was doing _ that you used. princess anne was doing it _ that you used. princess anne was doing it and — that you used. princess anne was doing it and the queen was having trouble _ doing it and the queen was having trouble getting online. princess anne, _ trouble getting online. princess anne, with her slightly famous irritability, said, come on, mummy, press— irritability, said, come on, mummy, press the _ irritability, said, come on, mummy, press the right buttons! it was a charming — press the right buttons! it was a charming example of the closeness at the heart _ charming example of the closeness at the heart of— charming example of the closeness at the heart of the family. so yes, those _ the heart of the family. so yes, those are — the heart of the family. so yes, those are presumably the sort of memories— those are presumably the sort of memories that are going through her head~ _ memories that are going through her head~ |t— memories that are going through her head. , , . . memories that are going through her head. ,,. ., memories that are going through her head. ,, . ., ., head. it is such a private time for the family _ head. it is such a private time for the family as _ head. it is such a private time for the family as well, _ head. it is such a private time for the family as well, and _ head. it is such a private time for the family as well, and we - head. it is such a private time for the family as well, and we have l head. it is such a private time for- the family as well, and we have some wonderful archive footage of the queen, filmed when she was 42 years
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old, with her children, a very young prince edward there. you can't forget that this is an intensely private and personal moments for the family, but it is being played out in such a full glare of publicity, going right around the world. yes. going right around the world. yes, exactl . going right around the world. yes, exactly- but _ going right around the world. yes, exactly- but in _ going right around the world. yes, exactly. but in a _ going right around the world. yes, exactly. but in a way, _ going right around the world. yes, exactly. but in a way, that - going right around the world. 1913 exactly. but in a way, that is an essential part of what a monarchy is. if monarchy is about anything, connection is vital. one doesn't have to be an emotional or even a huge supporter of the institution, but one does have to understand about relationships, and that is what members of the royal family understand. therefore, if we were sitting here and it was all going on behind closed doors and we had no idea what was going on, then that
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really begins to grate, despite the fact that as you say, these are private moments. i fact that as you say, these are private moments.— fact that as you say, these are private moments. i think we can see from the crowds, _ private moments. i think we can see from the crowds, the _ private moments. i think we can see from the crowds, the number - private moments. i think we can see from the crowds, the number of - from the crowds, the number of people who are filing past the queen's coffin right now, the connection people feel with the queen and their desire to be there. people are waiting outside and they will have to wait a long time. there could be many hours before they can get over there and far past. kirsty wark is outside the cathedral and joins us now. wark is outside the cathedral and joins us "ow-— joins us now. sophie, it's been a da of joins us now. sophie, it's been a day of so — joins us now. sophie, it's been a day of so many _ joins us now. sophie, it's been a day of so many emotions - - joins us now. sophie, it's been a i day of so many emotions - respect, day of so many emotions — respect, dignity, fondness and loss. as you say, people are filing past thinking, as sally magnusson said, of their own families. and there was that incredibly moving moment when the queen's four children came in and took their places around the coffin. with me are three people who
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were witness to that. stuart is from near edinburgh. and gaynor and paul, who are from cornwall. that will be a small precious moment of time that you will neverforget? a small precious moment of time that you will never forget? what was it like to watch the members of the royal family in such dignity and peace? royal family in such dignity and eace? ~ ., royal family in such dignity and eace? ~' ., ., peace? like i said to the other lad , it peace? like i said to the other lady. it was — peace? like i said to the other lady, it was like _ peace? like i said to the other lady, it was like being - peace? like i said to the other lady, it was like being part- peace? like i said to the other lady, it was like being part of. peace? like i said to the other| lady, it was like being part of a respectful togetherness, being with them in _ respectful togetherness, being with them in their grief and the continuity that will was part of that — continuity that will was part of that it — continuity that will was part of that. it was very moving for me. i was so _ that. it was very moving for me. i was so glad — that. it was very moving for me. i was so glad to be here. | that. it was very moving for me. i was so glad to be here.— was so glad to be here. i think it was so glad to be here. i think it was very much _ was so glad to be here. i think it was very much the _ was so glad to be here. i think it was very much the private - was so glad to be here. i think it was very much the private grief| was so glad to be here. i think it- was very much the private grief part that i_ was very much the private grief part that i felt— was very much the private grief part that i felt entering _ was very much the private grief part that i felt entering into _ was very much the private grief part that i felt entering into a _ was very much the private grief part that i felt entering into a sombre i that i felt entering into a sombre area, _ that i felt entering into a sombre area, and — that i felt entering into a sombre area, and feeling _ that i felt entering into a sombre area, and feeling the _ that i felt entering into a sombre area, and feeling the grief- that i felt entering into a sombre area, and feeling the grief that l area, and feeling the grief that they were _ area, and feeling the grief that they were all _ area, and feeling the grief that they were all feeling _ area, and feeling the grief that they were all feeling and - area, and feeling the grief that they were all feeling and being! area, and feeling the grief that - they were all feeling and being part of that _ they were all feeling and being part of that l_ they were all feeling and being part of that. ~' .,
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they were all feeling and being part of that. ,, ., ., , they were all feeling and being part of that. ~ ., . , , .,, of that. i think for many people, the will of that. i think for many people, they will be _ of that. i think for many people, they will be surprised _ of that. i think for many people, they will be surprised that - of that. i think for many people, i they will be surprised that ordinary members of the public where they're at that time, but it says something in a way about this time in this monarchy�*s life that stuart, it was for the public as well. it was something they were sharing. yes. for the public as well. it was something they were sharing. yes, it was something to _ something they were sharing. yes, it was something to share _ something they were sharing. yes, it was something to share that - something they were sharing. yes, it| was something to share that moment and hear the prayers and feel the emotion— and hear the prayers and feel the emotion of the situation. i hadn't felt the _ emotion of the situation. i hadn't felt the emotion hit me until i walked — felt the emotion hit me until i walked irr— felt the emotion hit me until i walked in there.— felt the emotion hit me until i walked in there. . ., , ., ., , walked in there. and had you always lanned to walked in there. and had you always planned to come _ walked in there. and had you always planned to come to _ walked in there. and had you always planned to come to the _ walked in there. and had you always planned to come to the vigil? - walked in there. and had you always planned to come to the vigil? no, i planned to come to the vigil? no, actuall . planned to come to the vigil? no, actually- i — planned to come to the vigil? no, actually. i came _ planned to come to the vigil? no, actually. i came yesterday and watched — actually. i came yesterday and watched the cortege come through the city and _ watched the cortege come through the city and today i took the opportunity to come and spend some time _ opportunity to come and spend some time. it— opportunity to come and spend some time. , ., ., ., , opportunity to come and spend some time. , , , time. it is extraordinary because we now know there _ time. it is extraordinary because we now know there are _ time. it is extraordinary because we now know there are at _ time. it is extraordinary because we now know there are at least - time. it is extraordinary because we | now know there are at least 20,000 people, going back more than a mile. and these people will be happy, as it were, to stay overnight because this is something that will be forever in their memories. whatever they feel about the monarchy, it's a
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moment of history. what will you take back to cornwall from the time you have spent here at this moment? i think is being part of something bigger— i think is being part of something bigger than me, as big as a nation stop the _ bigger than me, as big as a nation stop the queen was part of all of our lives, — stop the queen was part of all of our lives, well, all my life. and it's the — our lives, well, all my life. and it's the same for most people here. it is it's the same for most people here. it is that— it's the same for most people here. it is that common togetherness for somebody— it is that common togetherness for somebody who was very special. when i was talking — somebody who was very special. when i was talking to — somebody who was very special. when i was talking to people _ somebody who was very special. bfa�*uéi�*i i was talking to people today and somebody who was very special. when i was talking to people today and i said, what was your overriding sentiment, one woman, orseveral said, it was her constancy. sentiment, one woman, or several said, it was her constancy.- sentiment, one woman, or several said, it was her constancy. yes, and her faith, which _ said, it was her constancy. yes, and her faith, which underpinned - her faith, which underpinned everything and gave her that life of service _ everything and gave her that life of service. . ~ everything and gave her that life of service. ., ,, , ., everything and gave her that life of service. . ~' , ., , everything and gave her that life of service. ., ,, i. , . �* service. thank you very much. i'm sure ou service. thank you very much. i'm sure you will _ service. thank you very much. i'm sure you will want _ service. thank you very much. i'm sure you will want to _ service. thank you very much. i'm sure you will want to go _ service. thank you very much. i'm sure you will want to go and - service. thank you very much. i'm| sure you will want to go and reflect further. sophie, so many people here are filing through. it's dark now
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and people are very respectful and quiet. and people are very respectful and cuiet. �* . and people are very respectful and ruiet. �* ., , . , and people are very respectful and cuiet. ~ ., , . , ., quiet. amazing pictures of the crowds, quiet. amazing pictures of the crowds. kirsty. _ quiet. amazing pictures of the crowds, kirsty, filing - quiet. amazing pictures of the crowds, kirsty, filing past - quiet. amazing pictures of the crowds, kirsty, filing past and| crowds, kirsty, filing past and waiting in the street. people have flown in from around the world, haven't they?— flown in from around the world, haven't the ? ., , ., , haven't they? there are people here from all around _ haven't they? there are people here from all around the _ haven't they? there are people here from all around the world, _ haven't they? there are people here from all around the world, and - from all around the world, and people who are in edinburgh at this time of year who wanted to see history in the making, see what the queen's relationship to scotland has been like. in the last few days, more and more people have understood how much the queen, who is of course half scottish, felt that this was her home. she wasn't coming to visit, she was coming home, whether it was to balmoral or the palace of holyroodhouse. this was the place where she felt at home, could relax and just be, where she felt at home, could relax andjust be, in where she felt at home, could relax and just be, in a way, more ordinary than anywhere else. andjust be, in a way, more ordinary than anywhere else.— than anywhere else. kirsty, thank ou. than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you. well. _ than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you- well. as— than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you. well, as the _ than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you. well, as the king _
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than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you. well, as the king and - than anywhere else. kirsty, thank you. well, as the king and his- you. well, as the king and his siblings left their mother's side a short time ago, they were relieved at the vigil by a ceremonial units that serves as the sovereign's bodyguard in scotland, the royal company of archers. it's a role they have performed since 1822, so it seems appropriate that in their bicentennial year, they are able to be by the queen's side one final time. the royal company of archers, the queen �*s bodyguard for scotland. the queen 's bodyguard for scotland. the ro al queen 's bodyguard for scotland. the royal company of archers were set up as an _ royal company of archers were set up as an archery— royal company of archers were set up as an archery club in 1676. and in 1822. _ as an archery club in 1676. and in 1822, when— as an archery club in 1676. and in 1822, when king george iv came to scotland _ 1822, when king george iv came to scotland in — 1822, when king george iv came to scotland in the grand visit to edinburgh, we were given the honour of being— edinburgh, we were given the honour of being his _ edinburgh, we were given the honour of being his personal bodyguard for scotland _ of being his personal bodyguard for scotland. we have approximately 400 members _ scotland. we have approximately 400 members and about 180 non—active members _ members and about 180 non—active members who are unable to be on parade _ members who are unable to be on parade because of their age as part
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of the _ parade because of their age as part of the organisation. during the year. _ of the organisation. during the year. we — of the organisation. during the year, we will do any number of ceremonial— year, we will do any number of ceremonial activities whenever the sovereign — ceremonial activities whenever the sovereign is on formal ceremonial duty _ sovereign is on formal ceremonial duty~ we — sovereign is on formal ceremonial duty. we will conduct activities in support— duty. we will conduct activities in support of— duty. we will conduct activities in support of the monarchy when there is installation of new members of the order— is installation of new members of the order of the thistle at the garden — the order of the thistle at the garden party, or indeed the investiture was that her majesty clearly _ investiture was that her majesty clearly enjoyed meeting her subjects in scotland, and i think it meant a lot to _ in scotland, and i think it meant a lot to her — in scotland, and i think it meant a lot to her i— in scotland, and i think it meant a lot to her. . , in scotland, and i think it meant a lot to her-— lot to her. i always felt that she had an affinity _ lot to her. i always felt that she had an affinity to _ lot to her. i always felt that she had an affinity to us, _ lot to her. i always felt that she had an affinity to us, and - lot to her. i always felt that she had an affinity to us, and that i lot to her. i always felt that she i had an affinity to us, and that was why my when we asked if she would sit for yet another portrait, she so graciously agreed to do so. the wonderful painting of her by nicky phillips hangs in archers hall and it is treasured by us. i think it wouldn't be exaggerating to say she was quite fond of the royal company of archers. she lived her whole life
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surrounded the most professional and disciplined of soldiers, and the royal company were part of that. a lot of them including myself had never been into services, so it was quite something to turn out on parade. of course, not everything went exactly to plan. and i think i am right in saying both the queen and the duke of edinburgh had the occasional smile on their faces. but they were smiles of kindness and understanding, i think, they were smiles of kindness and understanding, ithink, ratherthan of disappointment. in understanding, ithink, rather than of disappointment.— understanding, ithink, rather than of disappointment. in my experience, those members _ of disappointment. in my experience, those members who _ of disappointment. in my experience, those members who have _ of disappointment. in my experience, those members who have been - of disappointment. in my experience, | those members who have been invited tojoin— those members who have been invited toioin the _ those members who have been invited tojoin the company those members who have been invited to join the company have those members who have been invited tojoin the company have a sense of duty about — tojoin the company have a sense of duty about being a part of that bodyguard. whilst of course it is only ceremonial, point is that for the ceremony and for the heritage and for— the ceremony and for the heritage and for the — the ceremony and for the heritage and for the character of scotland, these _ and for the character of scotland, these individuals are playing a very important — these individuals are playing a very important part and they feel deeply the honour of being in that
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position _ the honour of being in that position. we will be providing a vi-il position. we will be providing a vigil to— position. we will be providing a vigil to protect the queen as she lies vigil to protect the queen as she ties in— vigil to protect the queen as she ties in st — vigil to protect the queen as she lies in st giles' cathedral, being able to— lies in st giles' cathedral, being able to mark something that will be recorded _ able to mark something that will be recorded in history is extraordinary. and i think it is something we will remember for the rest of— something we will remember for the rest of our— something we will remember for the rest of our lives. i think that is very true. the king spoke today about the weight of history and it feels like that. it has felt like that for the last few days. we have seen the traditions, the pageantry that stretch back centuries. , . , ., centuries. yes, and the repetition and echoes _ centuries. yes, and the repetition and echoes of— centuries. yes, and the repetition and echoes of the _ centuries. yes, and the repetition and echoes of the earlier - centuries. yes, and the repetition and echoes of the earlier vigils . and echoes of the earlier vigils increases that. it has been interesting how when people have been asked outside buckingham palace or here in scotland, why have you come? history is the answer, often the answer. i wanted to be there, i wanted to show my feelings. so
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often, and why have you brought your children? because i wanted them to feel part of history. with all due respect to our darling politicians who come and go, it is the longer lived monarchs whose lives probably convey history with more weight to most people. convey history with more weight to most people-— convey history with more weight to most --eole. ~ , . ~' ., most people. mark leishman, you know i was most people. mark leishman, you know iwas auoin most people. mark leishman, you know i was going to — most people. mark leishman, you know i was going to call _ most people. mark leishman, you know i was going to call him _ most people. mark leishman, you know i was going to call him prince _ i was going to call him prince charles, king charles, you know him very well, you worked for him for a long time when he was prince. how do you think you will be coping with this tumultuous change? he knew it was coming, but still when it happens?— was coming, but still when it ha ens? ., . happens? the king has a terrific sense of duty. _ happens? the king has a terrific sense of duty, and _ happens? the king has a terrific sense of duty, and when - happens? the king has a terrific sense of duty, and when one . happens? the king has a terrific. sense of duty, and when one thinks about, _ sense of duty, and when one thinks about, as _ sense of duty, and when one thinks about, as you say the prince of wales— about, as you say the prince of wales when i was working there, having _ wales when i was working there, having learnt so much at the knee of his mother— having learnt so much at the knee of his mother and grandmother of course — his mother and grandmother of course i— his mother and grandmother of course. i think there is this kind of extraordinary energy which is
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remarkable to observe. it is driven i think— remarkable to observe. it is driven i think by— remarkable to observe. it is driven i think by this insatiable curiosity about— i think by this insatiable curiosity about people, about places, things and events, but also about tying these _ and events, but also about tying these threads of history, these golden— these threads of history, these golden threads. kirsty mentioned a short— golden threads. kirsty mentioned a short time — golden threads. kirsty mentioned a short time ago, i mean we have just been _ short time ago, i mean we have just been witnessing this extraordinary vi-il been witnessing this extraordinary vigil in _ been witnessing this extraordinary vigil in st— been witnessing this extraordinary vigil in st giles'. in 1588, john knocks— vigil in st giles'. in 1588, john knocks turned up and transformed a lot or— knocks turned up and transformed a lot or attempted to and the whole balance _ lot or attempted to and the whole balance of history shifted in terms of worship — balance of history shifted in terms of worship. the royal mile has been used as— of worship. the royal mile has been used as a _ of worship. the royal mile has been used as a place of possession for kings _ used as a place of possession for kings and — used as a place of possession for kings and queens for 500 years, and here we _ kings and queens for 500 years, and here we are — kings and queens for 500 years, and here we are in the digital age sitting — here we are in the digital age sitting in— here we are in the digital age sitting in a television studio remarking on these things in probably— remarking on these things in probably similar ways the way people have done _ probably similar ways the way people have done in previous centuries. the point _ have done in previous centuries. the point about— have done in previous centuries. the point about energy is an interesting theme _ point about energy is an interesting theme for— point about energy is an interesting theme for the family as a whole. in 2012 in—
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theme for the family as a whole. in 2012 in the — theme for the family as a whole. in 2012 in the diamond jubilee, i was standing _ 2012 in the diamond jubilee, i was standing a — 2012 in the diamond jubilee, i was standing a few feet away from both the queen and the duke of edinburgh, and you _ the queen and the duke of edinburgh, and you remember going down the thames. _ and you remember going down the thames, and the weather got worse and worse _ thames, and the weather got worse and worse and worse! well, i counted and worse and worse! well, i counted and they— and worse and worse! well, i counted and they were there for four and a half hours — and they were there for four and a half hours. for 20 minutes they went downstairs _ half hours. for 20 minutes they went downstairs and had a cup of tea and then came — downstairs and had a cup of tea and then came back up again. i couldn't believe _ then came back up again. i couldn't believe it — then came back up again. i couldn't believe it. the rest of us were saying. — believe it. the rest of us were saying, how long is this to... ? you know, _ saying, how long is this to... ? you know. but— saying, how long is this to... ? you know, but they wear there to the end _ know, but they wear there to the end the — know, but they wear there to the end. the extraordinary devotion, energy— end. the extraordinary devotion, energy and — end. the extraordinary devotion, energy and commitment. because as i mentioned _ energy and commitment. because as i mentioned a _ energy and commitment. because as i mentioned a few minutes ago, if there _ mentioned a few minutes ago, if there is— mentioned a few minutes ago, if there is interconnection, there isn't _ there is interconnection, there isn't a — there is interconnection, there isn't a great deal, but as long as there _ isn't a great deal, but as long as there is— isn't a great deal, but as long as there is a — isn't a great deal, but as long as there is a connection that makes a great _ there is a connection that makes a great deal— there is a connection that makes a great deal of difference. i was iucky— great deal of difference. i was iucky to— great deal of difference. i was lucky to see her majesty in windsor about— lucky to see her majesty in windsor about three months ago. an association of which i am director had gifted — association of which i am director had gifted to the majesty a new processional cross. at the age of 96
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she came _ processional cross. at the age of 96 she came into the room, and that smile _ she came into the room, and that smile that — she came into the room, and that smile that people have talked about, the engagement was frankly stunning. you are _ the engagement was frankly stunning. you are never sycophantic, you never do that _ you are never sycophantic, you never do that i'm _ you are never sycophantic, you never do that. i'm just observing what i saw and — do that. i'm just observing what i saw and heard at the time. almost immediately she was interested in the artisans guild that had gone into making this processional cross. the same _ into making this processional cross. the same with her son, her other sons _ the same with her son, her other sons and — the same with her son, her other sons and princess royal will be doing _ sons and princess royal will be doing the — sons and princess royal will be doing the same thing.- sons and princess royal will be doing the same thing. well, we are lookin: at doing the same thing. well, we are looking at the _ doing the same thing. well, we are looking at the images _ doing the same thing. well, we are looking at the images of _ doing the same thing. well, we are looking at the images of people - looking at the images of people filing into st giles' cathedral, but there will be another group of people standing vigil around the queen's coffin tomorrow, a group who are very much steeped in scotland's history. they are called the most ancient and noble order of the thistle and there are only 16 members. they must have been born in scotland. it is in order that has
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its spiritual home inside st giles' cathedral. there is a small fabulously ornate chapel in its south—east corner where the orders' knights and ladies, among them the most eminent physicians and captains of industry would meet her majesty. as you are about to see, being part of it was one of the highest honours the queen could have bestowed on them. the order of the thistle is the second senior order of chivalry in the uk, the only one that is exclusive to scots, and is very much in the personal gift of the sovereign. it is not part of the political honour system. i sovereign. it is not part of the political honour system.- political honour system. i was completely — political honour system. i was completely taken _ political honour system. i was completely taken aback, - political honour system. i was completely taken aback, and l political honour system. i was j completely taken aback, and i political honour system. i —" completely taken aback, and i came here, i left the letter open on the table and my wife came back and saw
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the letter, and she said "for once, even i am impressed!" if the letter, and she said "for once, even i am impressed!"— even i am impressed!" if you look throuuh even i am impressed!" if you look through the _ even i am impressed!" if you look through the history, _ even i am impressed!" if you look through the history, it _ even i am impressed!" if you look through the history, it is - even i am impressed!" if you look through the history, it is the - even i am impressed!" if you look through the history, it is the main nobility— through the history, it is the main nobility who are members of the order— nobility who are members of the order of— nobility who are members of the order of the thistle, but during the queen's— order of the thistle, but during the queen's reign, she changed that. people _ queen's reign, she changed that. people without any honours, without anything _ people without any honours, without anything else to their name were made _ anything else to their name were made members of the thistle and she appointed _ made members of the thistle and she appointed the very first woman, lady marion _ appointed the very first woman, lady marion fraser, so the queen put her mark— marion fraser, so the queen put her mark very— marion fraser, so the queen put her mark very clearly on the order as being _ mark very clearly on the order as being something that had to do with modern _ being something that had to do with modern scotland and not simply the past _ modern scotland and not simply the past i_ modern scotland and not simply the ast. �* ~' ., , ., modern scotland and not simply the ast. �* ,, ., , ., ., past. i didn't know first of all when i was — past. i didn't know first of all when i was invited _ past. i didn't know first of all when i was invited that - past. i didn't know first of all when i was invited that part l past. i didn't know first of all. when i was invited that part of past. i didn't know first of all i when i was invited that part of it is that— when i was invited that part of it is that you — when i was invited that part of it is that you have _ when i was invited that part of it is that you have a _ when i was invited that part of it is that you have a private - when i was invited that part of it . is that you have a private audience with her— is that you have a private audience with her majesty _ is that you have a private audience with her majesty. it _ is that you have a private audience with her majesty. it was _ is that you have a private audience with her majesty. it was an - with her majesty. it was an experience _ with her majesty. it was an experience i_ with her majesty. it was an experience i will— with her majesty. it was an experience i will never- with her majesty. it was an i experience i will never forget. with her majesty. it was an - experience i will never forget. what impressed _ experience i will never forget. what impressed me — experience i will never forget. what impressed me most, _ experience i will never forget. what impressed me most, that— experience i will never forget. what impressed me most, that she - experience i will never forget. what impressed me most, that she was i impressed me most, that she was extremely— impressed me most, that she was extremely well— impressed me most, that she was extremely well briefed _ impressed me most, that she was extremely well briefed about - impressed me most, that she was extremely well briefed about me. | impressed me most, that she was - extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly — extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly when _ extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly when i _ extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly when i came _ extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly when i came to - extremely well briefed about me. she knew exactly when i came to this - knew exactly when i came to this country. — knew exactly when i came to this country. where _ knew exactly when i came to this country, where i— knew exactly when i came to this country, where i had _ knew exactly when i came to this country, where i had studied - country, where i had studied medicine _ country, where i had studied medicine and _ country, where i had studied medicine and what _ country, where i had studied medicine and what i - country, where i had studied
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medicine and what i had - country, where i had studied l medicine and what i had done. country, where i had studied - medicine and what i had done. the conversation — medicine and what i had done. the conversation was _ medicine and what i had done. the conversation was very— medicine and what i had done. the conversation was very easy. - medicine and what i had done. the conversation was very easy. you i medicine and what i had done. the conversation was very easy. you are actuall 15 conversation was very easy. you are actually 15 to — conversation was very easy. you are actually 15 to 20 — conversation was very easy. you are actually 15 to 20 minutes _ conversation was very easy. you are actually 15 to 20 minutes alone. - conversation was very easy. you are actually 15 to 20 minutes alone. no | actually 15 to 20 minutes alone. no one else, just the two view. i had to pinch myself, it isjust amazing but totally relaxing. fin to pinch myself, it is 'ust amazing but totally relaxing._ but totally relaxing. on reflection there was probably _ but totally relaxing. on reflection there was probably the _ but totally relaxing. on reflection there was probably the best - but totally relaxing. on reflection there was probably the best time | but totally relaxing. on reflection i there was probably the best time or there was probably the best time or the best— there was probably the best time or the best half— there was probably the best time or the best half hour— there was probably the best time or the best half hour of— there was probably the best time or the best half hour of my— there was probably the best time or the best half hour of my life. - the best half hour of my life. although _ the best half hour of my life. although i _ the best half hour of my life. although i always _ the best half hour of my life. although i always had a - the best half hour of my life. | although i always had a great respect — although i always had a great respect and _ although i always had a great respect and admiration - although i always had a great respect and admiration for. although i always had a great. respect and admiration for her, although i always had a great- respect and admiration for her, that is the _ respect and admiration for her, that is the time — respect and admiration for her, that is the time i— respect and admiration for her, that is the time i think— respect and admiration for her, that is the time i think i— respect and admiration for her, that is the time i think i realised - respect and admiration for her, that is the time i think i realised that- is the time i think i realised that this is— is the time i think i realised that this is a — is the time i think i realised that this is a very— is the time i think i realised that this is a very special _ is the time i think i realised that this is a very special person. - is the time i think i realised that| this is a very special person. the rinci al this is a very special person. the principal event _ this is a very special person. principal event would be this is a very special person. the principal event would be the this is a very special person.- principal event would be the summer installation or commemoration service. that happens normally every two years. every winter however, the members of the order gather in the chapel for a small, short service so they all meet at least once a year.
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all services of the order were always passed before her before they were approved. nothing passed her eye without her taking note of it, as it were. yes, you had to look at detail and make sure you were right, but it was enjoyable to do it because you knew you were doing it for somebody who appreciated what was done, and wanted to be involved. it wasn't a formality, it wasn't going — it wasn't a formality, it wasn't going through the motions. there was something _ going through the motions. there was something inherently important about the order— something inherently important about the order that was very significant to the _ the order that was very significant to the queen, and i think she regarded _ to the queen, and i think she regarded that as being a very important part of the fabric of the united _ important part of the fabric of the united kingdom and one of the most important _ united kingdom and one of the most important parts of the fabric of scotland — scotland. and you can see what it scotrand. — and you can see what it all meant to them. something we havejust discovered watching that film, mark, your grandfather was a member of the
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order of the thistle and you were there. i order of the thistle and you were there. . . . order of the thistle and you were there. ., , ., ., order of the thistle and you were there. . , . ., ., , there. i was, at the age of six, walkin: there. i was, at the age of six, walking across _ there. i was, at the age of six, walking across the _ there. i was, at the age of six, walking across the courtyard i there. i was, at the age of six, | walking across the courtyard we there. i was, at the age of six, - walking across the courtyard we have just seen. it was a few minutes and i was holding lord reith's robes is a small boy in a kilt, and i remember bits of it quite well but the —— by the age of seven i was ready to retire! the -- by the age of seven i was ready to retire!— ready to retire! lord reith, the first director-general - ready to retire! lord reith, the first director-general of - ready to retire! lord reith, the first director-general of the . ready to retire! lord reith, the. first director-general of the bbc first director—general of the bbc as well. a lot of history we are uncovering here. robert lacey, as we draw to a close and we see the images of these people filing past the queen's coffin this evening, the beginning of many days of this, there is notjust a huge change for there is notjust a huge change for the royal family themselves but also the royal family themselves but also the nation. a seismic change for the uk. . ., y ., ., the nation. a seismic change for the uk. . ., ., ., uk. the change you mean from the queen to prince _
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uk. the change you mean from the queen to prince charles, _ uk. the change you mean from the | queen to prince charles, something we have taken for granted. so many people have said the only monarch they remember is the queen. yes it is, but what i think is encouraging is, but what i think is encouraging is that we have already heard in what prince charles has said that he has got plans for the future. i mean, he knows the causes he wants to pursue, but he has already said that if people thought him divisive in the past, that is not his intention in the future. and that he sees his role now, which of course is such an important role as you are suggesting at this particular moment, although i think almost at any moment in a nation's history, there can never be too much pulling together, never be too much togetherness. but together, never be too much togetherness.— together, never be too much touetherness. �* , ., ~' togetherness. but when you think what has happened _ togetherness. but when you think what has happened in _ togetherness. but when you think what has happened in the - togetherness. but when you think what has happened in the last - togetherness. but when you think i
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what has happened in the last seven days, borisjohnson was prime minister this time last week. bind days, boris johnson was prime minister this time last week. and he was seeinu minister this time last week. and he was seeing the _ minister this time last week. and he was seeing the queen _ minister this time last week. and he was seeing the queen herself - minister this time last week. and he l was seeing the queen herself smiling there, and the queen was doing her job. it's not a week ago, last tuesday and two days later she's not with us any more. so it's a lot to take in. one function of these vigils, as mark was saying, is to provide means for us to process either by participating or by participating through television in these rituals which are in fact designed to channel our emotions in positive and creative ways so that we can understand what is happening. and yes, experience the sorrow but also the thrill of history in which we are living. the also the thrill of history in which we are living-— we are living. the weight of histo , we are living. the weight of history. and _ we are living. the weight of history, and its _ we are living. the weight of history, and its unfolding i we are living. the weight of history, and its unfolding inj we are living. the weight of - history, and its unfolding in front of our eyes all the time at the
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moment. thank you both forjoining me this evening. the public will file past and continue filing past the coffin overnight, and if you want to watch it, the pictures are being broadcast live on iplayer or you can press the red button on your handset. the queen's coffin remains at st giles' cathedral until five o'clock tomorrow afternoon, when it will be driven to edinburgh airport. the flight takes off at six o'clock. the flight takes off at six o'clock. the princess royal will be on board, she is staying with her mother on this long journey south. they landed just outside london at seven o'clock tomorrow evening before travelling tomorrow evening before travelling to buckingham palace, where the queen will spend one more night before her coffin is taken to westminster hall on wednesday, where she will lie in state. it's hard to imagine the scale of what is to come, the crowds we will see over the next week. butjudging by the scenes today, it will be of a
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magnitude we will only witness once in our lifetime. as britain's longest reigning monarch queen elizabeth ii is laid to rest. goodbye.
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this is bbc news. i'm ros atkins. the headlines... scotland bids a solemn farewell to queen elizabeth. the queen's coffin is now lying at rest at st giles' cathedral in edinburgh —— members of the public have begun to pay their final respects. the queen's children, including king charles, followed her hearse on foot, as it made its way up edinburgh's royal mile. after attending a special session of the scottish parliament, later this hour, we'll hear some of the stories of those who met queen elizabeth —— and how it changed their lives. one other important piece of news this hour..
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ukraine says it's recaptured 20 towns and villages, in the space of 24 hours —— russia retaliates by knocking out power and water supplies. this is the most significant russian withdrawal since they pulled out from kyiv in late march. the human cost from both countries remains huge. whether it is a price worth paying, ukrainians feel there is no choice, this is about survival. people in edinburgh have had the first chance to pay their respects to the late queen elizabeth, ahead of her state funeral next monday.

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