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beautiful colours. very moving. it's the colours, i think, that's incredible. the orb, the sceptre, the crown. yeah, stunning. very solemn and serene and perfect. and in ukraine, president zelensky visits a newly—liberated city, after thousands of square miles are retaken from russian forces. we report from one town deserted by russian troops. over here on the wall, one interesting detail — a single word which someone has written in broken english. "sorry." hello and welcome. queen elizabeth ii is lying in state tonight, beneath the ancient timbers of westminster hall.
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(take live os westminster hall). this is the scene live, in the oldest part of the palace of westminster. for the past six hours, thousands of people have been filing past her majesty's coffin to pay their final respects to a remarkable monarch. the queen will now lie in state for four full days, until monday, the morning of herfuneral. in a few minutes, we'll cross live to westminster to hear from some of those who've been queuing to bid their farewells to the queen, but first, our royal correspondent, nicholas witchell, has the story of the day. in a setting that is so familiar, where so often and so recently there has been celebration, today an event of the greatest solemnity. on the pavements around the palace and along the mall, spectators were quiet and still. at 2:22pm, the cortege stepped off.
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gun salute a field gun sounded and the great bell known as big ben tolled. the coffin of her late majesty queen elizabeth ii was brought from buckingham palace, where it had rested for a final night with her family. the coffin was borne on a gun carriage. on the coffin rested a wreath and the imperial state crown. walking behind the coffin, the king with his siblings, the princess royal, the duke of york, who was not in uniform, and the earl of wessex.
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on past the cenotaph where, for so many years as queen, she had led the nation's mourning. now that nation, with others, mourns her. as the cortege approached parliament square and the palace of westminster, the applause from the pavements swelled. many of those who were watching had travelled from afar, feeling an overwhelming obligation to be present. each wanting to be part of this moment in the nation's history and leaving with a precious memory. seeing the queen on that carriage was just unbelievable, and it brings it all home that she's gone and we won't see her again. i definitely felt personally touched, it was a very memorable experience,
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a memory that i will cherish. i have to be honest, _ i was so focused on the coffin that i i didn't actually end up seeingl the royals following her behind cos i wasjust, you know, - wanting to see the queen go. outside westminster hall, the bearer party from the grenadier guards took the queen's coffin on their shoulders. other members of the royal family were there. watching on the left, the duchess of sussex. the coffin, covered in the royal standard and surmounted by the queen's crown, was placed with care on the catafalque. by the queen's crown, was placed with care on the catafalque. o, god, the makerand redeemer of all mankind, grant us with thy servant queen elizabeth
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and all the faithful departed the sure benefits of thy son's saving passion and glorious resurrection. for the royal family, it's clear that the loss of the queen is still being felt keenly. for all the stoicism, that quality that she represented in abundance, it is plain that some, the blood family and those who knew her over the years, are feeling very real grief. but now, the late queen has one final duty. into westminster hall came the first watch of the vigil. the ceremonial bodyguard of the monarch, and officers from the household cavalry, who will stand at the four points of the catafalque as the lying in state begins — and the people of britain and beyond have their chance to pay their final respects
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to their late queen. nicholas witchell, bbc news. let's go now to zoe conway, who's at carriage gate in the palace of westminster in central london, where people have been queuing for the last few hours to pay their respects. it's been a few hours and people have been filing into westminster hall and filing out. give us a sense of what's happening a the. you can probably see behind me some lorries — the. you can probably see behind me some lorries parked _ the. you can probably see behind me some lorries parked out _ the. you can probably see behind me some lorries parked out there - the. you can probably see behind me some lorries parked out there full- some lorries parked out there full of sand, and they have been putting sand down across the road here in parliament square. that's to protect the hooves of the horses that have been involved of these ceremonial vents over the last few days. there are rehearsals going on constantly because the funeral is on monday, so that's what's happening here behind me. but what's also striking here tonight is just, me. but what's also striking here tonight isjust, apart me. but what's also striking here tonight is just, apart from the sound of the machinery, how quiet
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and orderly it's been. it's an incredibly impressive operation that's been unfolding over the last 24 that's been unfolding over the last 2a hours here to get ready for the lying in state of the late queen. perhaps we shouldn't be surprised by that because after all, this has been decades in the planning and there will have been more and more updates in recent months to get everything to what feels like military precision here today. what's also been happening in the hall behind me, westminster hall, people have been quietly filing past, paying their respects to the late queen. from the people i've spoken to who have come out over the last few hours, they've talked really about how emotional it was for them. there wasn't necessarily audibly a great deal of weeping in that room, but there was certainly a huge amount of emotion, and i think
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some people i spoke to were surprised at how much it hit them, how awestruck they were being there. one woman i spoke to was taken by how the queen's coffin is on a platform and that made her higher than everybody else in westminster hall when she was there. and she said to me, the queen did such a good job when she was alive of being amongst the people, but in that moment standing there in westminster hall and seeing her up high on that platform, it made me realise that she was so much more than a new —— a mere mortal. what people have also been saying who have been queuing today and who have been in westminster hall is how well organised they thought everything was and there's been quite a number of people who have managed to join the queue sort of mid—afternoon and
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have left some seven hours later. so, for some people, they've felt it's moved a lot more quickly to than they feared.— it's moved a lot more quickly to than they feared. zoe, thanks so much for that. _ let's just take a quick look inside westminster hall. as you can see, despite the rather late hour here in london, the steady stream of people continues. hundreds of thousands of people expected to make that walk past the queen's coffin. president biden has had his first telephone conversation with king charles since the death of the queen. it comes ahead of his visit to the uk for the state funeral. the queen's death has been extensively covered by the american television networks. more from our north america correspondent, gary o'donoghue. outside the white house, the president again expressed according to the white house, the president again expressed
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his condolences to the new king and talked about the queen's dignity and her kindness and her constancy, and how she deepened the friendship between britain and the united states. significantly also, i think he talked about continuing the closeness the queen had forged with something like a dozen presidents since the second world war, though that will take work because, in truth, king charles isn't as popular here as the queen was or, indeed, as some of the other royals are. but for the time being, the bidens will come to the funeral, they will arrive at the weekend to pay their respects. they said they wanted to do that within hours of the queen's passing. presidents come and go, prime ministers come and go — but with a new monarch, a new foundation, a new cornerstone has to be laid in the transatlantic relationship. and i think in good time, the king and his advisers will turn their minds on how to maintain and strengthen these historic ties that bind these two nations. thanks to gary for that. anyone
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who's thinking of actually going to see the queen's lying in state, the uk government has dedicated web page where you can check how long the queueis where you can check how long the queue is at any time, so you can go onto the website there and see how long the wait will be if you join the back of the queue. onto other news now, and as ukrainian forces extend their counteroffensive to towns in the eastern donbas region, president zelensky has made a surprise visit to territory recently freed by his army. in the city of izyum, he vowed to take back all ukrainian territory from the russians, but said he did not know when. our senior international correspondent, orla guerin, has the latest from the kharkiv region in the northeast. after months of shattering losses, plenty to smile about. ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, came to thank his troops for their stunning advance.
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everyone wanted a selfie. this was in izyum, a strategic city now free of the russians. he's vowed to drive them out everywhere else. so, it means that we will come. i don't know when, and nobody knows when. but we have plans, so we'll come. because it's our land, and it's our people. that's why we'll come. but liberation is still new, and, in some areas, still tense. we managed to reach the village of lyptsi, along a road lined with destruction. the russian border is just a few miles away stop the area the russian border is just a few miles away. the area was only freed on sunday. 75—year—old ivan is coming to see how the enemy lived, how they made themselves at home
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in a makeshift base. getting a glimpse of theirfitness equipment and the washing they left behind. he says the russians could come back, and he is weighed down by worries. translation: i'm worried about everything. - notjust people, but animals and birds, and the soil which was shelled. they're destroying everything. it's really painful. it's even hard to breathe. nearby, the spot where the occupiers did target practice. local people say there were russian and chechen forces here. the conditions are pretty squalid. they've left a lot of
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ammunition boxes behind. some of them even fled without their boots, which were left outside. but over here on the wall, one interesting detail. one interesting detail — a single word, which someone has written in broken english. "sorry." galina says they should be sorry. her garden used to be carpeted with lilies. now, it's listed with the debris of a russian attack. now, it's littered with the debris of a russian attack. she tells me the occupiers hid in the trees and fired day and night. "i'm not the way i was," she says. "i haven't recovered. "they haven't broken me, but i am lost deep down in my soul." now, somehow, galina
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and her neighbours must rebuild. but the trauma of occupation is writ large here. orla guerin, bbc news, lyptsi. melinda haring is deputy director of the atlantic council's eurasia centre, a think—tank. she joins me from washington. thanks so much for coming on the programme. thanks so much for coming on the programme-— thanks so much for coming on the| programme._ let's programme. glad to be here. let's talk about this _ programme. glad to be here. let's talk about this remarkable - programme. glad to be here. let's talk about this remarkable counter| talk about this remarkable counter of there from ukrainian forces. it was quick and successful, and the production now must surely be able so down. they can't keep up that pace —— the presumption. so down. they can't keep up that pace -- the presumption.- pace -- the presumption. that's riaht, pace -- the presumption. that's right. the _ pace -- the presumption. that's right, the ukrainian _ pace -- the presumption. that's right, the ukrainian forces - pace -- the presumption. that's right, the ukrainian forces have | right, the ukrainian forces have already said things are starting to slow down. it was stunning. it was momentous. you can use all these words. the point is, it was a turning point. we've had three different sections of the war. we had the battle for kyiv, ukraine
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came out ahead. the other battle for the dawn back, the russians came out and fed —— instead —— donbas. it's too soon to plan a victory party. ben hodges predicts that russian forces will be repelled to the february 23 border and crimea will be freed next year. i think those are bullish, but he's a military expert and i am not.— are bullish, but he's a military expert and i am not. that's brave to ut a expert and i am not. that's brave to put a prediction _ expert and i am not. that's brave to put a prediction on _ expert and i am not. that's brave to put a prediction on a _ expert and i am not. that's brave to put a prediction on a timeline on - put a prediction on a timeline on anything like that. let's take a quick pause here. the territory that's been retaken already, is there confidence that that can be held now and that can be a platform for further torture held now and that can be a platform forfurther torture —— held now and that can be a platform for further torture —— territorial gains? for further torture -- territorial rains? , . ., ., gains? there is confident that it can be held. — gains? there is confident that it can be held, so _ gains? there is confident that it can be held, so the _ gains? there is confident that it can be held, so the hard - gains? there is confident that it can be held, so the hard key - gains? there is confident that it. can be held, so the hard key region in the north has been taken. it's a very large chunk of property and there's de—mining efforts going on
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—— kharkiv. it's double the size of the city of london, which is a huge expanse, but let's be honest and sober about what lies next — it's going to be hard going. it's not going to be hard going. it's not going to be as easy as it was over the past five days, particularly in the past five days, particularly in the south. in the city of kherson, there's three levels of deficiencies. —— defences. it's going to take a matter of time. people are complaining that the ukrainian forces don't have enough of the have artillery symptoms they need. the biden administration is still saying no thank you. they are also begging for more air defences to protect the ukrainian people. interestingly, the attack on the south, if and when it comes, that
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one key ingredient is a surprise because of parts of this counteroffensive that we've just witnessed is this was pretty well the size. —— disguise. there is decoy activity in the south, then they could retake that area elsewhere. once we focus on the south, and you don't have the element of surprise either. look, don't underestimate _ element of surprise either. look, don't underestimate the - element of surprise either. look, i don't underestimate the ukrainian. we've all made so many mistakes underestimating them. they are very clever. they have played with a much smaller, weaker military and have surprised us time and time again. i'm not willing to say that what they did with the decoy was brilliant, and i think they will probably try to find a way to do that again. they exploited vulnerabilities in the russian line, and i expect that to be their strategy. but they keep throwing the russian forces off but they struck crimea multiple times. i think there will be more surprises to come. it’s will be more surprises to come. it's alwa s will be more surprises to come. it's always great to have you on and get
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your thoughts. mr; always great to have you on and get your thoughts-_ your thoughts. my pleasure, thank ou. dignitaries from around the world have been invited to the funeral. the australian prime minister, anthony albanese, has chosen ten ordinary australians to accompany him to the funeral. one of them is danny abdallah. he co—founded the charity i—forgive with his wife after an appalling family tragedy. let's bring in danny abdallah, who's in sydney. thank you so much for coming on the programme. we will get to your story because it is absolutely tragic. first of all, because i'm sure it was a surprise to you, just a moment where the prime minister of australia bring you up and invited you to join australia bring you up and invited you tojoin him on this trip australia bring you up and invited you to join him on this trip to
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london, just talk us through that. it was a sunday afternoon and i was leaving church. i got a phone from the prime minister and he asked if i would join him to the queen's funeral. i was lost for words at the time. i didn't know what to say. i'm very humbled tojoin our prime minister. very humbled to 'oin our prime minister. ~ , ,., , very humbled to 'oin our prime minister. ~ , , ., ., ., , minister. absolutely extraordinary honour. minister. absolutely extraordinary honour- just _ minister. absolutely extraordinary honour. just to _ minister. absolutely extraordinary honour. just to receive _ minister. absolutely extraordinary honour. just to receive a - minister. absolutely extraordinary honour. just to receive a phone i minister. absolutely extraordinary l honour. just to receive a phone call like that. just because i haven't given the details, i wondered if you could do it in your words. how your family was hit by such a devastating tragedy. would you just talk us through it? tragedy. would you 'ust talk us through in* tragedy. would you 'ust talk us through int tragedy. would you 'ust talk us through rah tragedy. would you 'ust talk us throuthit? . ., ., ,, through it? two years ago, a drunken driver... through it? two years ago, a drunken driver. .. took— through it? two years ago, a drunken driver... took my _ through it? two years ago, a drunken driver. .. took my daughter— through it? two years ago, a drunken driver... took my daughter for - through it? two years ago, a drunken driver... took my daughter for a - driver... took my daughter for a walk to get some ice cream. seven children went for a walk and a drunk driver ran over seven children with 130 km and four died instantly, and
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three were my children and one was my cousin's daughter. we went to the scene of the accident, and we were devastated. two days later, my wife publicly forgave the driver on tv. it shook our community and the nation in the world. we started a foundation to three months later called i4give. we went to the premier at the time, asked if we could have an i4give day in australia in honour of our children and the anniversary of the tragedy, and the anniversary of the tragedy, and she agreed. it's actually become something pretty big in australia. we're talking about how forgiveness and mental love is so important for the forgave her more than the forgiven, and you're no longer a slave to that event or that person, and now we have i4give week and we
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have prison programmes about forgiveness. people reconciling in jails with their inmates. we have programmes in schools. we have an i4give friday that's designated to the muslim community where we talk about the power of forgiveness in the mosques. we have talks in the synagogues with thejewish community. all the churches across australia speak about forgiveness and the value of it.— and the value of it. danny, it is one of the _ and the value of it. danny, it is one of the most _ and the value of it. danny, it is one of the most extraordinary. one of the most extraordinary stories. it is deeply powerful and just hearing you recited was quite emotional and affecting. i want to ask the obvious question — how do you go about that kind of forgiveness when you've gone through so much pain?— so much pain? look, the pain always remains, so much pain? look, the pain always remains. but — so much pain? look, the pain always remains, but it's _ so much pain? look, the pain always remains, but it's the _ so much pain? look, the pain always remains, but it's the only _ so much pain? look, the pain always remains, but it's the only way - remains, but it's the only way to get your family to the high ground. iforgave first and get your family to the high ground. i forgave first and foremost because of my faith and secondly for the
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greater good of my kids, and it has helped them socially. they've lost three of their siblings. they understand the power of forgiveness and what it does, but the grief in the pain—and—suffering doesn't change. the pain-and-suffering doesn't chante. , ~ ., ., ., change. danny, i don't know what to sa . change. danny, i don't know what to say- thank — change. danny, i don't know what to say- thank you _ change. danny, i don't know what to say. thank you so _ change. danny, i don't know what to say. thank you so much _ change. danny, i don't know what to say. thank you so much for - change. danny, i don't know what to say. thank you so much for coming l say. thank you so much for coming out of the programme. hearing you speak has been an absolute revelation. really very humbling indeed. i wish you well on your trip to london. thank you so much for sparing the time in coming on and talking to us here. danny abdallah, thank you so much.— thanks again to danny abdallah, who will be in london for the queen's funeral on monday, joined by nine other ordinary australians as well as world leaders from right around the lobe. right now, hundreds of thousands are contemplating visiting
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the queen there who is lying in state in westminster hall. i'm lewis vaughanjones, this is bbc news. hello there. wednesday was a fine day for most of us and of course those of us and of course, those who started to queue to see the queen lying in state, there were some cleaner skies later in the evening across the capital. for many, though, clearer skies into thursday morning means it could turn quite chilly, especially across scotland, the far north—east of england. especially across scotland, a bit of cloud across eastern areas of england and overnight temperatures generally speaking staying in double figures across the south. but as i mention, to the north, two or three degrees in the north—east of scotland. but then, during thursday, for most, it's going to be a dry day, the cloud across eastern parts may produce the odd shower towards east anglia and the south—east of england. showers also for northern ireland and across scotland being
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brought on in the rather brisk north—easterly wind. brought on in a rather brisk north—easterly wind. temperatures here lower again, 11 or 12 celsius, and a fresher day for england and wales, compared to wednesday, but still, in that september sunshine, it should feel pleasant enough. but it will turn cooler still as we get to the end of the week. look at those blues there from the arctic, that a mass coming further south across the uk. that mass coming further south across the uk. that air mass coming further south across the uk. high pressure to the west, low to the east — that's why you've got that northerly wind. it means that for early friday, temperatures for many of us could well be in single figures, the first proper chill of the autumn. now, with a rather strong north to north—westerly wind, we'll see showers coming in along the north sea coast towards east anglia. drierfurther west — again there will be some sunshine and lighter winds, and that's where you'll find the highest temperatures, south wales, south—west england, 19 degrees, but look at those temperatures down the eastern coast of scotland and in eastern england, 12—14 celsius. and, of course, the focus is for london, if you are coming to the capital over the next few
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days, it is at least looking dry with some sunshine, 15 or 16 celsius, sunshine, 15 or 16 celsius. but it's overnight that you might want to be prepared for because those temperatures will be dropping down over the weekend, as we mentioned earlier, into single figures. but for the weekend, high pressure is still there. the winds will slowly ease off across the north sea, so still a few showers perhaps at times but as that high pressure moves in further, we'll see those winds just easing off slightly, so dry with some sunny spells for many into the bank holiday monday and the queen's state funeral with temperatures round about 15—17 celsius.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me in the studio is royal commentator richard fitzwilliams and joining me in the studio chief political correspondent of the telegraph, camilla turner. hello to you both. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the queen's lying—in—state takes the lead in most of the papers,
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here's the telegraph showing the royal family delivering her coffin to the public. "your nation stands with you, ma'am" on the front of the daily express. the metro features a dazzling picture of the state crown resting on top of the late queen's coffin. the guardian shows king charles iii following behind his late mother. "her crown and glory" says the times with a picture of the queen's grenadier guards laying the regiment�*s flag. a slightly different picture in the mirror, showing emotional princes william and harry alongside their wives catherine and meghan. and, finally, the same picture of the royal family grieving in a special edition of the sun, stating "we share your pain." so let's begin... an extraordinary selection of
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photographs on most of the front pages. hello, camilla, hello, richard. richard, let's start with you, thank you for coming in. we could almost page —— take any front page, all the images are so powerful, they have been away, picture editors have really excelled themselves in capturing some of the emotion on display throughout the days. let's look at the front page of the daily mail. the days. let's look at the front page of the daily mail.— of the daily mail. the daily mail, the l int of the daily mail. the daily mail, the lying in _ of the daily mail. the daily mail, the lying in state, _ of the daily mail. the daily mail, the lying in state, this _ of the daily mail. the daily mail, the lying in state, this is - of the daily mail. the daily mail, the lying in state, this is where i the lying in state, this is where the lying in state, this is where the queen lies at the moment and will forfour and a half the queen lies at the moment and will for four and a half days and what we are hearing —— seeing is the fantastic image which eliminates the royal standard and this is a visual capped by four guards in front of the coffin. it is very spectacular. one of thing that is so extraordinary about this of course
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is that in westminster hall where she is lying in state, and where we as we speak mourners are filing past, is so regimented history dating back, quite literally be done ijy dating back, quite literally be done by the son of william the conqueror and much of it still standing from richard the second who was responsible for the roof, and some of the great ceremonies of state, it used to be law courts and king charles the first was put on trial there and also william wallace and quite amazing, sir thomas more, and then where churchill lay, and where people filed past. this then where churchill lay, and where people filed past.— people filed past. this is the live scene now _ people filed past. this is the live scene now of _ people filed past. this is the live scene now of the _ people filed past. this is the live scene now of the extraordinary l people filed past. this is the live - scene now of the extraordinary space you are talking about. the history of westminster is extraordinary. it's amazing, the likes of, well,
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nelson mandela, i remember attending, hearing him address both houses of parliament and this really was, memorable because betty boothroyd helped him down a few steps, he was slightly frail and she always said that was the moment and her speakership for the house of commons that she thought was the, for her, the most valuable. difficult to top that, certainly. camilla, let's go to the front page of the times, a nation pays eight respects is the headline, what details have they picked up to mark yes, anotherfantastic details have they picked up to mark yes, another fantastic piece of photography. the yes, another fantastic piece of photography-— yes, another fantastic piece of photography. yes, another fantastic piece of thototra-h. , photography. the write-up has some interestint photography. the write-up has some interesting details _ photography. the write-up has some interesting details that _ photography. the write-up has some interesting details that it _ photography. the write-up has some interesting details that it picks - interesting details that it picks out of— interesting details that it picks out of three's events and talks about— out of three's events and talks about how today was actually the first time — about how today was actually the first time that king charles appeared publicly with his two sons, william _ appeared publicly with his two sons, william and harry, says the queens
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death— william and harry, says the queens death and _ william and harry, says the queens death and significant because of the different_ death and significant because of the different rumours that have been circulating that rests in the family. _ circulating that rests in the family, but italy with prince harry coming _ family, but italy with prince harry coming back for the funeral, first with his — coming back for the funeral, first with his wife megan and then she didnt— with his wife megan and then she didn't come in the end to balmoral, but all— didn't come in the end to balmoral, but all of— didn't come in the end to balmoral, but all of that clearly put aside and is — but all of that clearly put aside and is public appearance, a real of unity— and is public appearance, a real of unity in _ and is public appearance, a real of unity in this — and is public appearance, a real of unity in this procession we saw today — unity in this procession we saw today it— unity in this procession we saw toda . ., , , ~ unity in this procession we saw toda . ., , ,, ,., today. it was striking, some in uniform. _ today. it was striking, some in uniform, some _ today. it was striking, some in uniform, some not, _ today. it was striking, some in uniform, some not, just- today. it was striking, some in l uniform, some not, just alluding today. it was striking, some in - uniform, some not, just alluding to the history there exactly. yes. the history there exactly. yes, another interesting _ the history there exactly. yes, another interesting detail, - the history there exactly. yes, another interesting detail, the time is right— another interesting detail, the time is right up— another interesting detail, the time is right up picks it out, the fact that— is right up picks it out, the fact that members of the royal family who are hot— that members of the royal family who are not full—time working members of the family. _ are not full—time working members of the family, friends andrew and prince — the family, friends andrew and prince harry, weren't allowed to wear _ prince harry, weren't allowed to wear military uniforms, so a very visurel— wear military uniforms, so a very visual display of the different roles — visual display of the different roles the royals are playing in modern — roles the royals are playing in modern life at the moment and the rest of—
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modern life at the moment and the rest of them, of course, in therefore _ rest of them, of course, in therefore military guard, but a visible — therefore military guard, but a visible sign of the different roles prince _ visible sign of the different roles prince harry and friends andrew play in the _ prince harry and friends andrew play in the royal family today. we prince harry and friends andrew play in the royal family today.— in the royal family today. we are ttoin to in the royal family today. we are going to pick _ in the royal family today. we are going to pick up _ in the royal family today. we are going to pick up on _ in the royal family today. we are going to pick up on that _ in the royal family today. we are going to pick up on that theme, l going to pick up on that theme, actually, richard, what you make of the photo on the daily mirror, and what they are focusing on, the pride and the pain is the headline? it is and the pain is the headline? it is rather an and the pain is the headline? ht 3 rather an extraordinary image. the sun has chosen the same one which makes it more extraordinary, not a flattering one of prince harry,, when you focus on the prince of wales, you do see the pain in his face and in kate's and megan is in the background and i think that is the background and i think that is the purpose, not especially kind because there is a very important point at issue here. my hope is and obviously we all think back, just
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over 25 years, that fateful funeral of princess diana, diana princess of wales, the terrible car crash and subsequently of course william aged 15 and harry aged 12 and he said it was a deeply scarring experience walking behind the catapult —— because i felt and you imagine they will be thinking emotionally, tremendously sad with the memory of that and now having lost very suddenly someone who was truly remarkable constant over 70 years and i am hoping that some form of reconciliation, and the front page emphasises this and we have the memoir supposedly coming later in
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the year it would be a much more appropriate thing if it was postponed because if there was anything in it, and i don't know how he could write it without it being controversial, because king charles or the queen consort grief, that would further deepen the rift. i prefer the daily star, have to say, shoulder to shoulder, but it does say underneath, but it does seem that the sussexes seem to be unpredictable and that isn't helpful, considering the enormity of what we are experiencing now, i am just hoping that somehow, some form of reconciliation that lasts will start. , ., ,, , ., of reconciliation that lasts will start. , . ~' , ., , start. interesting. thank you very much for that _ start. interesting. thank you very much for that summary _ start. interesting. thank you very much for that summary of - start. interesting. thank you very much for that summary of the - start. interesting. thank you very i much for that summary of the wider family issues which as you say the daily mirror and the sun have focused in on with their images on the front page. camilla, let's go to the front page. camilla, let's go to the front page of the daily telegraph, their images closer to what we have been watching this
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evening which is inside westminster hall, and the nation turned to say farewell as the headline, what details have the daily telegraph pulled out?— details have the daily telegraph tulled out? , . �*, , pulled out? yes, that's right, this concentrates _ pulled out? yes, that's right, this concentrates on _ pulled out? yes, that's right, this concentrates on a _ pulled out? yes, that's right, this concentrates on a scene - pulled out? yes, that's right, this concentrates on a scene from - pulled out? yes, that's right, this i concentrates on a scene from inside westminster hall so you can see the different— westminster hall so you can see the different members of the royal family— different members of the royal family really standing there, a very poignant _ family really standing there, a very poignant image, all queueing to show their respects to the late monarch, all the _ their respects to the late monarch, all the beautiful colours and flags on display there, and this article is really— on display there, and this article is really concentrating on how initially— is really concentrating on how initially we had these six days of mourning — initially we had these six days of mourning which were concentrated around _ mourning which were concentrated around the — mourning which were concentrated around the royal family, the immediate numbers, all the action was surrounding them, but now with the queen— was surrounding them, but now with the queen lying in state, it is really— the queen lying in state, it is really the _ the queen lying in state, it is really the turn of the nation to mourn — really the turn of the nation to mourn it _ really the turn of the nation to mourn. it picks up with the fact
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that— mourn. it picks up with the fact that they— mourn. it picks up with the fact that they are an estimated 400,000 people _ that they are an estimated 400,000 people going to be passing through, paying _ people going to be passing through, paying their respects. some people potentially queueing for hours on end in_ potentially queueing for hours on end in orderto potentially queueing for hours on end in order to come to westminster hall and _ end in order to come to westminster hall and see in person the late monarch— hall and see in person the late monarch laying —— lying in state, so really— monarch laying —— lying in state, so really a _ monarch laying —— lying in state, so really a shift — monarch laying —— lying in state, so really a shift in the turn of the morning — really a shift in the turn of the morning now, from the royal family, the immediate members to the wider publio _ the immediate members to the wider tublic. �* , the immediate members to the wider tublic. h , the immediate members to the wider tublic. �*, , ., ., ., public. let's focus on that, we are seeint public. let's focus on that, we are seeing the — public. let's focus on that, we are seeing the pictures _ public. let's focus on that, we are seeing the pictures live. _ public. let's focus on that, we are| seeing the pictures live. estimates of numbers is always difficult, it was around 200,000 of the last time an event happened back in 2002, for the queen mother, but they have been estimates of 400,000, potentially higher, what you make a what is going to be happening over the next couple of days, as so many people file three westminster hall? h couple of days, as so many people file three westminster hall? i am file three westminster hall? i am wonderint file three westminster hall? i am wondering whether, _ file three westminster hall? i am wondering whether, it _
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file three westminster hall? i —n wondering whether, it can happen that london bridge has been planned for years for obvious reasons. sometimes, adjustments can be made to help the flow of people because firstly, the number of hours they are queueing is truly extraordinary, but nonetheless whether or not, because the original idea, remember, for the queen to pass in scotland was the idea of using the royal train, a train where by more people would be involved on route but they decided to fly the coffin down to raf northolt but here, i can't help thinking that with the numbers, 400,000 is the estimate they think they are going to include to pass, in scotland they were over 30,000 towards the end at st giles' cathedral because it was so important for national unity that the scots had a chance of also paying respects, but possibly they
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might be able to think of some sort of way that this might be increased. ijust of way that this might be increased. i just wanted to of way that this might be increased. ijust wanted to mention this very spectacular, only a small photograph, but the sun set behind big ben, it reminded me of when the queen's father george vi died, queen elizabeth wrote in her diary, the sunset of his death changed the whole world sky. i thought rather an appropriate... it is whole world sky. i thought rather an appropriate- - -_ appropriate... it is a lovely picture- — appropriate... it is a lovely picture- just _ appropriate... it is a lovely picture. just before - appropriate... it is a lovely picture. just before we - appropriate... it is a lovely i picture. just before we leave, because weight of not accusing the crowds, there is a helpful website that the uk government has decided to launch, and it is basically a website showing the length of the queuein website showing the length of the queue in real time, so this is the website by now, this is the live page, you can see, the purple line is the queue, that is the back of the queue, if anyone is thinking
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aboutjoining in, so it is about two and a half miles long at the moment. we may well return to this story but there are other stories on the front page. camilla, taken to the front page. camilla, taken to the front page of the guardian, a really important and harrowing story at the bottom there, people disappeared, izyum records horror of occupation, this is the latest in ukraine. yes. this is the latest in ukraine. yes, this is the latest in ukraine. yes, this is the latest in ukraine. yes, this is an incredibly _ this is the latest in ukraine. yes, this is an incredibly powerful dispatch— this is an incredibly powerful dispatch from izyum, one of the strategically important towns that has been — strategically important towns that has been recaptured by ukraine and liberated _ has been recaptured by ukraine and liberated by the ukrainian forces in the last— liberated by the ukrainian forces in the last week from the russians. this piece — the last week from the russians. this piece of writing talks about the destruction and are really best scenes— the destruction and are really best scenes of— the destruction and are really best scenes of horror that the journalists are able to see on the streets _ journalists are able to see on the streets of— journalists are able to see on the streets of izyum. —— really, the scenes— streets of izyum. —— really, the scenes of— streets of izyum. —— really, the scenes of horror. the carcasses, the progress _ scenes of horror. the carcasses, the progress assemble etched into them.
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battle _ progress assemble etched into them. battle debris everywhere and shockingly it talks about bodies being _ shockingly it talks about bodies being discovered in the rubble, some people _ being discovered in the rubble, some people potentially even having been buried _ people potentially even having been buried alive from the sheer amount of bombing this town has been subjected to, really important story there. _ subjected to, really important story there, probably one of many stories to come _ there, probably one of many stories to come out— there, probably one of many stories to come out of these territories that are — to come out of these territories that are being recaptured by the ukrainian — that are being recaptured by the ukrainian forces as they progress with their— ukrainian forces as they progress with their counteroffensive during the coming days.— with their counteroffensive during the coming days. yeah, absolutely ritht, the coming days. yeah, absolutely right, ukrainian _ the coming days. yeah, absolutely right, ukrainian prosecutors - the coming days. yeah, absolutely right, ukrainian prosecutors workl the coming days. yeah, absolutely. right, ukrainian prosecutors work to gather evidence of war crimes, alleged war crimes, because without that evidence then potentially thing though and prosecuted, a painstaking task ahead for them. let's go to the front page of the financial times now, back to london, kwasi kwarteng set to end cap on bankers bonuses, richard, a claim is to us and explain what it could be potentially a little controversial.—
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a little controversial. well, there is ca- a little controversial. well, there is cap that _ a little controversial. well, there is cap that was — a little controversial. well, there is cap that was imposed - a little controversial. well, there is cap that was imposed by - a little controversial. well, there is cap that was imposed by the i a little controversial. well, there l is cap that was imposed by the eu, dates back for some years, and the idea that the chancellor has is that if you remove the cap and let them earn, they will be more productive. of course, this is very redolent of the profits made by the oil and gas companies and whether or not they should be a windfall tax. i notice, itjust links to should be a windfall tax. i notice, it just links to the should be a windfall tax. i notice, itjust links to the royals theme, the prime minister at liz truss as the prime minister at liz truss as the jewel in the country's crown, well, indeed, but the problem with this sort of headline, it may or may not be true because you could say wall street would attract certain bankers that would have bonuses with no—caps at allbut on the other hand, of course, people will think and see a headline like this and feel it was very unfair. a headline like this and feel it was very unfair-— very unfair. let's take up on that, camilla, briefly. _ very unfair. let's take up on that, camilla, briefly, i'm— very unfair. let's take up on that, camilla, briefly, i'm afraid, - camilla, briefly, i'm afraid, whateverthe camilla, briefly, i'm afraid, whatever the rights and wrongs of
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this, removing a cap on bankers bonuses, politically, it could be tricky. bonuses, politically, it could be tric . , ., , bonuses, politically, it could be tric . , . , ., tricky. yes, that is right, and i think it is _ tricky. yes, that is right, and i think it is very _ tricky. yes, that is right, and i think it is very telling - tricky. yes, that is right, and i think it is very telling that - tricky. yes, that is right, and i think it is very telling that the | think it is very telling that the article — think it is very telling that the article notes that borisjohnson looked — article notes that borisjohnson looked at — article notes that borisjohnson looked at doing this but shied away from it— looked at doing this but shied away from it because he feared that political — from it because he feared that political implications might just from it because he feared that political implications mightjust be too great — political implications mightjust be too great so it is very interesting that kwasi — too great so it is very interesting that kwasi kwarteng and the new liz truss _ that kwasi kwarteng and the new liz truss regime are returning to this and looking at it once again. of course, — and looking at it once again. of course, this fits with the broader liz course, this fits with the broader liz truss— course, this fits with the broader liz truss economic vision which is to take _ liz truss economic vision which is to take measures that boost growth and she _ to take measures that boost growth and she has talked about how we don't _ and she has talked about how we don't want — and she has talked about how we don't want to talk ourselves into a recession. — don't want to talk ourselves into a recession, want to promote growth in the economy and this is the best way to counter— the economy and this is the best way to counter inflation and get things moving _ to counter inflation and get things moving again so this would certainly chime _ moving again so this would certainly chime with — moving again so this would certainly chime with that vision, they are saying — chime with that vision, they are saying it — chime with that vision, they are saying it is _ chime with that vision, they are saying it is a way to make london more _ saying it is a way to make london more competitive, to attract the top banking _ more competitive, to attract the top banking and financial talent to the city and _ banking and financial talent to the city and give the city of london that big — city and give the city of london that big boost which i think liz truss— that big boost which i think liz truss is— that big boost which i think liz truss is hoping for. we
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that big boost which i think liz truss is hoping for.— that big boost which i think liz truss is hoping for. we shall see if the bankers _ truss is hoping for. we shall see if the bankers do _ truss is hoping for. we shall see if the bankers do get _ truss is hoping for. we shall see if the bankers do get their— truss is hoping for. we shall see if the bankers do get their bigger - the bankers do get their bigger bonuses are not. we must leave it there, camilla, thank you for talking to us, and richard thank you forjoining me in the studio. another day of course, where the front pages are dominated by the powerful images from westminster hall. that is it for this edition of the papers. thank you forjoining us, i'm lewis bornjones, this is bbc news. now on bbc news, another chance to see a collection of stories and memories of her majesty in your queen. well, people here in the uk and across the world have been in touch with the bbc to offer their tribute
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to the queen and their memories of meeting her, and what is clear is that, so often and for so many, a handshake, a photograph, even the briefest conversation created lasting memories — might, in some cases, have changed someone's life — and i'd like to share some of those memories with you over the course of the next few days. one thing so many have said about the queen is how much they love her smile. alan from west lothian in scotland managed to get a fantastic shot of that smile. look at that! he took this photograph in 1982 on a royal visit to edinburgh, and he says as a local photographer, he'd been told to keep out of the way. but he took his chance and he managed to get this photo — and didn't he do well? it's not been widely
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published until this moment. he says he's pleased that people can finally see what he saw of the queen, and no doubt, those filing past the coffin tonight will remember that smile. it was, of course, and uplifting smile that many people will have seen around the country. someone else who created an image of the queen is henry ward, who painted a portrait in 2016. hejoins us from ontario, canada. goodness me, so you sat there with the queen, a sitting, and what happens in those moments? it's a very private moment, what sort of atmosphere was there? good evening. yes, it was quite remarkable, to be honest with you. when you'ren sitting there with the queen and she comes out wearing the garter robes. it's quite the most remarkable moment. and you have to steel yourself because her majesty had an incredible presence about her. you get to the point where you realise it's not going to assist you if you feel completely bombed by her presence, so you have to just calm down and realise that the best way to get to the queen socially is just to talk to her.
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so, we got about to talking very quickly, and eventually, at a certain point, you realise that the people that have assisted this project into reality, the red cross and the fundraising committee raising the awareness of the charity and also my friend and the charity and also my friend and the asher who said to me, if she's wearing the garter robes, they are very hot, they are very heavy, and you must her to sit down and ask her if she would like to remove the garter robes and i said, i feel uncomfortable asking the queen is she is uncomfortable and he said she is there to help you. that is the thing that's down and stands out in my mind, she was so willing to help people, she wanted put people at ease. when angela kelly, who was in
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the room with my wife and i, and she came to remove that garter robes, though is, when she unclipped the robes, it was as if the mantle of the monarchy... it was almost as if you were sitting with your most favourite grandmother. she was wise, magnificent, extremely experienced, and for all of her majesty, she wore it with such levity and such unbelievable style, she was unbelievably beautiful. obviously she would have sat for great painters in her time, did she discuss her interesting painting? did she discuss what she wanted to see? whether any instructions at all? no, and that is where one's role is very complex because you can't ever really be completely alone in the
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creative process in the studio, sometimes you come to moments where you would have to bat out of there, refocus on what it was you were trying to say and move forward in the knowledge that people now for the knowledge that people now for the rest of time would be looking at it. what i would say it she said to me after she had agreed to unveil it, she had said, this plating needs to be seen. i it, she had said, this plating needs to be seen-— it, she had said, this plating needs to be seen. ., , to be seen. i need to “ump in there, at the unveiling, _ to be seen. i need to jump in there, at the unveiling, there _ to be seen. i need to jump in there, at the unveiling, there must - to be seen. i need to jump in there, at the unveiling, there must be - to be seen. i need to jump in there, at the unveiling, there must be the| at the unveiling, there must be the most daunting moment. it is at the unveiling, there must be the most daunting moment.— at the unveiling, there must be the most daunting moment. it is the best art most daunting moment. it is the best part because — most daunting moment. it is the best part because that _ most daunting moment. it is the best part because that is _ most daunting moment. it is the best part because that is when _ most daunting moment. it is the best part because that is when your - most daunting moment. it is the best part because that is when your year i part because that is when your year of work is when you get your painting seen by her and she was there and she unveiled it and it was quite wonderful, actually, we had the press association there, they would take those wonderful photographs of it and, yes, that was actually the best part.— actually the best part. where is the ttaintin actually the best part. where is the painting now? _ actually the best part. where is the painting now? it— actually the best part. where is the painting now? it currently - actually the best part. where is the painting now? it currently hangs i actually the best part. where is the painting now? it currently hangs in| painting now? it currently hangs in the savoy hotel— painting now? it currently hangs in the savoy hotel in _ painting now? it currently hangs in the savoy hotel in london - painting now? it currently hangs in the savoy hotel in london on i painting now? it currently hangs in the savoy hotel in london on the l the savoy hotel in london on the thames foyer. the savoy hotel in london on the thames foyer-—
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the savoy hotel in london on the thames fo er. , ., ., , ., , thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps — thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go _ thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go and _ thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go and see _ thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go and see it _ thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go and see it if - thames foyer. there you go, people can perhaps go and see it if they i can perhaps go and see it if they are in that neck of the words. thank you for sharing your thoughts. henry had a good conversation with a queen but it is not like that for everyone. tracy marshall met her in the 1990s, and got so tongue—tied, herfriend had to do the 1990s, and got so tongue—tied, her friend had to do all the tilting. her friend had to do all the tiltint. ~ , her friend had to do all the tiltint. . , ., tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke _ tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke to — tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke to us _ tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke to us and _ tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke to us and when i tilting. we stood in the line and she spoke to us and when it i tilting. we stood in the line and l she spoke to us and when it came tilting. we stood in the line and i she spoke to us and when it came to us, she said, and what is it that you do? and ijust froze, i was totally starstruck, totally and utterly starstruck. my friend gloria bailed me out and started speaking to the queen. she stood there and she was totally calm, totally collected, and she just put me at a's, but i still had no words. you hear that — a's, but i still had no words. you hear that so _ a's, but i still had no words. you hear that so often, _ a's, but i still had no words. you hear that so often, don't you? you have to lose your innovations when you are in the presence of royalty.
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pollyanna shiels married —— gave the queen a bunch of flowers and joins us now. pollyanna, you were a brownie, and the queen, of course, was a scout, she joined the first buckingham girls guides regiment, didn't she, and —— that herfather created so she could speak to people. tell us about your experience, had it happen? she came to o ten experience, had it happen? she came to open our— experience, had it happen? she came to open our local _ experience, had it happen? she came to open our local hospital— experience, had it happen? she came to open our local hospital and - experience, had it happen? she came to open our local hospital and we i to open our local hospital and we had the day of school to go and see her as a brownie pack and we waited all day long, all afternoon long for her to come out of the hospital, and i think it was raining, and when she finally came out outrightly briny descent go, go, go, and we snuck under the barriers and, yes, it was
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totally unofficial,, and she took the time to speak to us. she actually apologised for being late. she was just lovely, she asked us about our brownie badges and just her smile, about our brownie badges and just hersmile, itjust about our brownie badges and just her smile, itjust made you feel so relaxed. her smile, it 'ust made you feel so relaxed. �* ., her smile, it 'ust made you feel so relaxed. �* . ., ., relaxed. i'm reading that the local -a ter said relaxed. i'm reading that the local paper said you _ relaxed. i'm reading that the local paper said you broke _ relaxed. i'm reading that the local paper said you broke through i relaxed. i'm reading that the local. paper said you broke through police lines to reach her, that sounds quite dramatic, but she wasn't phased? it quite dramatic, but she wasn't thased? ., , quite dramatic, but she wasn't thased? . , , ., , phased? it was before they did walkabouts _ phased? it was before they did walkabouts and _ phased? it was before they did walkabouts and things - phased? it was before they did walkabouts and things so, i phased? it was before they did j walkabouts and things so, yes, phased? it was before they did i walkabouts and things so, yes, that is what the local paper said, but we definitely snuck under the barriers and move the way a little bit so we could get past. and move the way a little bit so we could get past-— and move the way a little bit so we could get past. how long do you do ou think could get past. how long do you do you think you _ could get past. how long do you do you think you talked _ could get past. how long do you do you think you talked her— could get past. how long do you do you think you talked her for? i you think you talked her for? probably a couple of minutes, maybe something like that. it felt like an instant but then it felt like for ever because she felt so easy to talk to. , , ., ever because she felt so easy to talkto. , ,
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talk to. did your parents get the photograph? — talk to. did your parents get the photograph? yes, _ talk to. did your parents get the photograph? yes, absolutely, . talk to. did your parents get the i photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a tride photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a pride possession _ photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a pride possession of _ photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a pride possession of mine. - photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a pride possession of mine. that i photograph? yes, absolutely, that is a pride possession of mine. that is i a pride possession of mine. that is the interesting _ a pride possession of mine. that is the interesting part, _ a pride possession of mine. that is the interesting part, this _ a pride possession of mine. that is the interesting part, this is - a pride possession of mine. that is the interesting part, this is all i the interesting part, this is all those years ago when you were a little girl but it sticks with you? yes, and i'm the first person, whenever the queen came on the telly or every went to buckingham palace so went near windsor, i said, i have met the queen, to anybody who would listen, because i am so proud of that, so proud.— that, so proud. you still got the brownie badges? _ that, so proud. you still got the brownie badges? we _ that, so proud. you still got the brownie badges? we had i that, so proud. you still got the brownie badges? we had a i that, so proud. you still got the | brownie badges? we had a court that, so proud. you still got the i brownie badges? we had a court that was tassed brownie badges? we had a court that was passed down _ brownie badges? we had a court that was passed down from _ brownie badges? we had a court that was passed down from harrods, i brownie badges? we had a court that i was passed down from harrods, you've got to put this code on so in the picture i'm in this tweed coat from harrods which at the time i hated. keep the coach at best, my mum was the same. you still got the brownie badges? the same. you still got the brownie badtes? ~ , ,~ ., badges? absolutely, they are also done. pollyanna, _ badges? absolutely, they are also done. pollyanna, thank— badges? absolutely, they are also done. pollyanna, thank you i badges? absolutely, they are also done. pollyanna, thank you very i badges? absolutely, they are also i done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed, done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed. lovely — done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed, lovely to _ done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed, lovely to talk _ done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed, lovely to talk to _ done. pollyanna, thank you very much
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indeed, lovely to talk to you. - done. pollyanna, thank you very much indeed, lovely to talk to you. lots i indeed, lovely to talk to you. lots of people sent their thoughts and tributes, including many people who have sent artwork as well, this one is from sarah glover, she said and heard for the queen with the simple message, good night, your majesty. sometimes, she says it is hard to express our feelings with words at times like that, she likes to do. so many of them coming in, please do sendin many of them coming in, please do send in your stories and tributes to the queen. and between now and the funeral on monday, we will try to show as many as we can. ten to 15 millimetres of rain fell across southern parts of the uk through last night and into this morning. but with the clearance of that weather front this afternoon, the wind direction has changed for all. it's coming down from the north. it's a chillier direction,
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but that northerly breeze is picking up and it's quite a brisk wind that will continue to blow showers in for the rest of this evening and overnight to northern and eastern areas, one or two for the north sea coast, and also one or two coming in across northern ireland and western coasts of england and wales as well. but inland, a chilly night, chilly again in the glens of scotland, possibly a touch of grass frost here. and even though double figures further south, it will feel fresher. we've lost that humidity now that has been with us for this part of the week. and that cold northerly wind is coming right the way down from the arctic, and so too is our air, and that will continue to filter southwards. so we're in for some chilly nights and some fresher days, but still there's strength in the september sunshine, and plenty of that around on offer first thing thursday, the cloud come and goes. again, quite a few showers and the odd sharp shower across northern and eastern scotland, moving into eastern england. one or two further west across northern ireland and the irish sea coast of england and wales as well, perhaps the cheshire gap, but it might be that we only see 18
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or 19 on thursday. that'll be the first day since early june that we haven't had 20 degrees somewhere in the uk. sojust an indication that it is quite a cool airflow, and quite a brisk wind as well through thursday and into friday, particularly around the coast further showers, but inland temperatures continue to dip away. so we'll get single figures in the countryside further south as well. the winds probably going to peak thursday into friday, particularly for north sea coasts and there will be plenty more showers working their way southwards on a weather system, perhaps fewer, and the wind starting to fall lighter further west because high pressure is starting to build in during the course of friday, into northern ireland, western fringes of england and wales, and then over the weekend across much of the uk. so if you're heading to london, a fresher 15 or 16, but feeling pleasant enough in the sunshine, just an outside chance of a shower, but through the evening and overnight, early morning, it really will feel chilly, perhaps the first widespread chilly snap of the autumn. but otherwise, there's a lot of dry
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