you're watching bbc news from cardiff as king charles iii prepares to visit wales for the first time as monarch. welcome to viewers in the uk and around the world. king charles is due to attend a prayer and reflection service for the queen at landaff cathedral before hosting a reception at cardiff castle. at llandaff cathedral hundreds have come to see the king as he makes his first visit to wales since being made king of the united kingdom. meanwhile, in central london, thousands are continuing to queue in order to pass by the queen's

coffin — but there's been a decision to pause queuejoining for about six hours. i'm karin giannone. i'm with those crowds of people waiting to pay their respects to the late queen as she lies in state in westminster hall. but authorities are saying if you have not done so already, do not attempt tojoin the have not done so already, do not attempt to join the queue until it reopens. but first members of the queen's family will continue their vigil over her coffin until the doors are open to the public at 5pm. hello and welcome to the welsh capital, cardiff, where this morning king charles iii is expected to arrive to complete his tour

of all four nations of the uk. i was told to pack an umbrella when i was told to pack an umbrella when i left london but it is a gorgeous day in the welsh capital and there is a sense of anticipation at the arrival of the king. he has been to edinburgh and then belfast and ben will make its way to cardiff this morning for a service of prayer and reflection at llandaff cathedral. he will then come to the senedd and end the day with a service at cardiff castle. lots of people sharing their memories of queen elizabeth, talking about the many visits, 300, she has made to every corner of wales during her reign. a sense of sadness but also anticipation that king charles will be here today. he will then return to london to again accompany his siblings in a a silent vigil by their mother's coffin. let ta ke let take you to london to those remarkable scenes, where we are

still seeing thousands of members of the public waiting to pay their respects to the late monarch. the queue in central london — now around 7.5 kilometres long, a 14 hour wait. and because that queue has got so long, the government has just put out this tweet saying that entry will be paused for at least six hours, and it's asking people not to attempt to join the queue until it reopens. queen elizabeth's lying in state lasts another 72 hours or so before her state funeral on monday. let's return to events happening in cardiff. let's go live now to our correspondent tomos morgan who is at llandaff cathedral, where the service of prayer and reflection for the life of the queen will be held.

what a lovely day for events to be happening in cardiff, what is the atmosphere lie? it is happening in cardiff, what is the atmosphere lie?— atmosphere lie? it is bustling, hundreds of — atmosphere lie? it is bustling, hundreds of people _ atmosphere lie? it is bustling, hundreds of people have - atmosphere lie? it is bustling, hundreds of people have come atmosphere lie? it is bustling, i hundreds of people have come to llandaff cathedral to welcome the king and queen consort when they arrive imminently sometime later this morning. as you mentioned there will be a service in the cathedral just over there, the king and queen consort will be there to remember queen elizabeth ii, there will be readings by people like mark drakeford, the first minister of wales, by the archbishop of wales too. from speaking to people here today i think the majority say they want to pay their respects to the queen as the service takes place at the cathedral behind me, but also catch a glimpse of the king's first steps in wales when he flies in from highgrove on a helicopter later this morning. let me take you to some of

those waiting to see him. carol and linda, what made you come here today? was it more for the service today? was it more for the service to the queen all see the kick for the first time?— the first time? both, it is an amazin: the first time? both, it is an amazing honour _ the first time? both, it is an amazing honour he - the first time? both, it is an amazing honour he is - the first time? both, it is an | amazing honour he is visiting the first time? both, it is an - amazing honour he is visiting wales for the _ amazing honour he is visiting wales for the first — amazing honour he is visiting wales for the first time as king today, but it's— for the first time as king today, but it's very important, and we also want _ but it's very important, and we also want to— but it's very important, and we also want to rememberthe but it's very important, and we also want to remember the late queen elizaheth— want to remember the late queen elizabeth ii. the sun has come out and the _ elizabeth ii. the sun has come out and the crowds are here, a wonderful opportunitx — and the crowds are here, a wonderful opportunity. did and the crowds are here, a wonderful opportunity-— opportunity. did you expect so many --eole opportunity. did you expect so many peeple here — opportunity. did you expect so many people here today? _ opportunity. did you expect so many people here today? we _ opportunity. did you expect so many people here today? we expected - opportunity. did you expect so many| people here today? we expected this man , so people here today? we expected this many. so we — people here today? we expected this many. so we came — people here today? we expected this many, so we came early _ people here today? we expected this many, so we came early to _ people here today? we expected this many, so we came early to get - people here today? we expected this many, so we came early to get a - people here today? we expected this| many, so we came early to get a good position. _ many, so we came early to get a good position. we _ many, so we came early to get a good position. we are — many, so we came early to get a good position, we are really— many, so we came early to get a good position, we are really pleased, - many, so we came early to get a good position, we are really pleased, the i position, we are really pleased, the sun is— position, we are really pleased, the sun is out— position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and — position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and it _ position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and it is _ position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and it is a _ position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and it is a great - position, we are really pleased, the sun is out and it is a great welcomej sun is out and it is a great welcome for them _ sun is out and it is a great welcome for them both _ sun is out and it is a great welcome for them both. one— sun is out and it is a great welcome forthem both-— sun is out and it is a great welcome for them both. one of the people he remembers — for them both. one of the people he remembers king _ for them both. one of the people he remembers king charles _ for them both. one of the people he remembers king charles when - for them both. one of the people he remembers king charles when he i for them both. one of the people he l remembers king charles when he was made prince of wales is mary rose. you remember 1969? the made prince of wales is mary rose. you remember1969?_ you remember1969? the investor chair, you remember1969? the investor chair. yes- — you remember1969? the investor chair. yes- i— you remember1969? the investor chair. yes- i only _ you remember1969? the investor chair, yes. i only saw— you remember1969? the investor chair, yes. i only saw it _ you remember1969? the investor chair, yes. i only saw it on - you remember1969? the investor chair, yes. i only saw it on the i chair, yes. i only saw it on the television. _ chair, yes. i only saw it on the television. i— chair, yes. i only saw it on the television, i was not there, but i can rememberas far

television, i was not there, but i can remember as far back as the queen— can remember as far back as the queen because my coronation when we had street— queen because my coronation when we had street parties in port talbot and i_ had street parties in port talbot and i rememberthe queen coming here to open— and i rememberthe queen coming here to openthe— and i rememberthe queen coming here to open the lido, so it is great to welcome — to open the lido, so it is great to welcome the new king to wales. a welcome the new king to wales. similar atmosphere as today? it welcome the new king to wales. a similar atmosphere as today? it is| similar atmosphere as today? it is very orderly. _ similar atmosphere as today? it is very orderly. we — similar atmosphere as today? it is very orderly, we have been here since _ very orderly, we have been here since oam — very orderly, we have been here since 6am so it has gradually built up since 6am so it has gradually built up and _ since 6am so it has gradually built up and it— since 6am so it has gradually built up and it is— since 6am so it has gradually built up and it is lovely to see the warmth _ up and it is lovely to see the warmth. it was quite cold at 6am. ariadne. _ warmth. it was quite cold at 6am. ariadne, tell me about your thoughts on what we are about to witness? history is being made, it is very exciting. — history is being made, it is very exciting. i'm _ history is being made, it is very exciting, i'm here— history is being made, it is very exciting, i'm here to _ history is being made, it is very exciting, i'm here to representl history is being made, it is very. exciting, i'm here to represent the welsh _ exciting, i'm here to represent the welsh language _ exciting, i'm here to represent the welsh language and _ exciting, i'm here to represent the welsh language and welcome i exciting, i'm here to represent the welsh language and welcome the. exciting, i'm here to represent the i welsh language and welcome the royal famiiy— welsh language and welcome the royal family to— welsh language and welcome the royal family to wales — welsh language and welcome the royal family to wales. find _ welsh language and welcome the royal family to wales-— family to wales. and a change in the uuard, a family to wales. and a change in the guard. a new — family to wales. and a change in the guard, a new prince _ family to wales. and a change in the guard, a new prince of— family to wales. and a change in the guard, a new prince of wales, - family to wales. and a change in the guard, a new prince of wales, your. guard, a new prince of wales, your thoughts about the relevance of the royal family and the new prince of wales and the relationship with wales? i

wales and the relationship with wales? ., , . ., wales and the relationship with wales? ., , .., ., ., wales and the relationship with wales? ., ., . , wales? i hope we can have more welsh lanaruae wales? i hope we can have more welsh language representation _ wales? i hope we can have more welsh language representation i _ wales? i hope we can have more welsh language representation i think- wales? i hope we can have more welsh language representation i think that i language representation i think that would _ language representation i think that would he _ language representation i think that would be important. _ language representation i think that would be important. the _ language representation i think that would be important. the welsh- would be important. the welsh language — would be important. the welsh language is— would be important. the welsh language is very— would be important. the welsh language is very important i would be important. the welsh language is very important to l would be important. the welsh- language is very important to worse in wales. _ language is very important to worse inwales. part— language is very important to worse inwales. part of— language is very important to worse in wales, part of our— language is very important to worse in wales, part of our identity. - in wales, part of our identity. thank— in wales, part of our identity. thank you _ in wales, part of our identity. thank you ail~ _ in wales, part of our identity. thank you all. as _ in wales, part of our identity. thank you all. as ariadne i in wales, part of our identity. - thank you all. as ariadne mentioned, it is worth remembering the welsh language, because when charles was made prince of wales in the investiture he was given a crash course in welsh at aberystwyth university and a big part of his speech was spoken in welsh, something which really end your tip to the welsh people, i think. two years ago before the covid pandemic we had a series of floods in wales, prince charles came to pontypridd just north of cardiff to see the people affected by that and it was extraordinary to see the gratitudes given to him, coming out to pay his respects to the people who had suffered, and again i think you are seeing people paying their respects

to the royal family for the service of queen elizabeth ii and also i am sure the king will do this again as well. ., .,. sure the king will do this again as well. ., a, ., ., ,, sure the king will do this again as well. ., a, ., ., ~ i., sure the king will do this again as well. ., ., ., ~ well. tomos morgan, thank you so much. i well. tomos morgan, thank you so much- i can _ well. tomos morgan, thank you so much- icanjust— well. tomos morgan, thank you so much. i can just show— well. tomos morgan, thank you so much. i can just show you - well. tomos morgan, thank you so much. i can just show you the i well. tomos morgan, thank you so i much. i can just show you the queues starting to build up outside the senedd. when i arrived first thing this morning nobody was here and it was incredible to see the lines of people quietly and patiently queueing in london and the numbers growing by the minute, it seems. now the news that they are causing entry to the queue. let's go live now to our correspondent karin giannone. the government on twitter asking people not to cut down until they have reopened the queue? the queue has reached — have reopened the queue? the queue has reached capacity, _ have reopened the queue? the queue has reached capacity, southwark i has reached capacity, southwark park, around five miles along the

river thames easter fun park, around five miles along the river thames easterfun here and park, around five miles along the river thames easter fun here and the department for digital, culture, media and sport is saying that savic part has reached capacity, entry will be paused for at least six hours —— around five miles along the river thames, east from here. they apologise for any inconvenience and they ask the public not to attempt to rejoin the queue until it reopens. the latest update on the estimated waiting time was about ia hours for the people who have made it into the queue. we do not know yet what happens to the people who have made their way down and cannot get by, will there be a queue to join the queue? we don't know. this is a phenomenon, known as the snake, the queue is condensed by the banks of the river thames into this very concentrated area of people going back and forth across victoria tower gardens and the people emerging from that are

saying it takes about an hour and a half. ijust went saying it takes about an hour and a half. i just went to the beginning of where the final security check is an people have said they have been at the queue for i2 hours, they joined at around ten o'clock last night and upcoming to the end of the long wait. they'll cold lunch really tired but not complaining. it is quite subdued at i think the colt is definitely getting to some people, but they are absolutely determined and people are saying they are pleased to know there was such a long wait for people who had just joined because it shows the strength of feeling about wanting to pay their respects to her majesty —— it is quite subdued, i think the cold is quite subdued, i think the cold is getting to some people. i think we can go to southwark park, the very end of the line where people are being told not tojoin very end of the line where people are being told not to join the queue. my colleague nick beake is with people via, i believe. what is

the situation, how are people coping with the news that the queue will be closed for a significant amount of time, and what happens to them? i time, and what happens to them? i think you raise a very good point, what happens to people who will be very disappointed? i can't tell you from this exact spot because you can't see there are now thousands of people in southwark park, to get here takes quite a while. i guess these are the lucky ones, people who have been here quite a while. there was nothing like this first thing this morning but i think people saw images on twitter and elsewhere and they made the decision to come, if they made the decision to come, if they lived in london, and others from different parts of the world tour the uk will have planned this for a couple of days. let chat with some people in the queue, let's see who this maybe smiling and wanting to talk. madam, you have a second, why have you travelled from? hot why have you travelled from? not toda , but why have you travelled from? iirrt today, but caudal. my name is

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country, across the uk, but also much further afield. these are the lucky ones, beyond this park, a couple of hundreds of metres away from me, people are being told they will have to wait six hours before they are able to join this queue. karin: and we even don't know how long the wait will be ahead of them when they are allowed to join. the international friendships formed in these queues, it has been such a bonding process also many people. our royal correspondence sarah campbelljoins me. —— royal correspondence. we don't have any certainty on the issue of people join, there will be a limit to the number of staff who can join this queue? —— can't manage this queue?

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they did when it was lying at western edinburgh, that is at 7:30pm for 15 minutes, the virtual of the princes, and within the last hour the palace has released details that the palace has released details that the queen's eight grandchildren will mount to own vigil tomorrow. i will read you what the palace has released, so much detail coming out. eight grandchildren will stand vigil it will last for 15 minutes, it says. the prince of wales, prince william, will stand at the head, prince harry the duke of sussex will be at the foot of the coffin and at the king's request both prince william and prince harry will be in uniform. there had been some debate because prince harry is no longer a working royal as to whether he would be in military uniform or a morning coat, a morning suit, which the others will be in. flanked by zara tindall and peter phillips, princess anne's two children, the duke of

sussex will be next to princess beatrice, and eugenie, the duke of york's children and lady louise adva viscount severn, the earl and countess of wessex's children will be placed at the middle of the coffin. the statement says the grandchildren at the king's invitation are very keen to pay their respects just as their parents are doing the evening before. some more detail, exact timings are not known yet. the eight grandchildren mounting their own vigil. two further days _ mounting their own vigil. two further days of _ mounting their own vigil. two further days of the _ mounting their own vigil. two further days of the queen lying in state, saturday and sunday after today, until monday morning at 6:30am, we have a lot more detail about what monday will hold and details about the funeral itself. the doors at westminster hall will close at 6:30am so no member of the public will be allowed in after that time. the key timings for monday, the day of the state funeral, the service at westminster abbey will

begin at 11 o'clock, lasting approximately an hour. the coffin will westminster abbey and then from westminster abbey after the service there will be a procession along the mall past buckingham palace into wellington arch. at that point it will be placed on the back of the state hearse, that's the car that we saw the coffin travel in from raf northolt, designed in accordance with the queen's plans, lots of glass, so as many people as possible will be able to see that hearse as it makes its finaljourney will be able to see that hearse as it makes its final journey from london to windsor. then there will be another procession taking it into windsor to st george's chapel where they will be the committal service, first of all, at four o'clock, and then later a private burial where then later a private burial where the queen will be interred in the king george vi memorial chapel alongside her husband prince philip. sarah, thank you very much. sarah campbell, our royal correspondent. we have been looking at pictures

from inside westminster hall. it is such a draw for so many tens of thousands of people but the message now from the authorities, the queue has been paused, access to the q five miles away has paused for at least six hours. do not attempt to join it if you haven't already done so. back to you, lucy, in cardiff. thank you so much. many lovely memories of the queen are being shared here today, 300 visits she made to wales, last year here for the first time paying —— last time paying tribute to key workers who had tirelessly worked throughout the pandemic. even the fact that her wedding ring was made of welsh gold, she said she liked to carry a little bit of wales with her wherever she went. but there have also been questions asked today as king charles visits about the relationship with the monarchy and the welsh people, sometimes described as a complicated relationship. i'm nowjoined by professor martin johnes, professor of history

at swansea university and writer and presenter of bbc wales documentary, wales: england's colony? and dylan foster evans, head of the school of welsh, cardiff university. good to have you both with us. is that the right word to use, martin, complicated? it is that the right word to use, martin, complicated?— complicated? it is complicated, o - inion complicated? it is complicated, opinion polls — complicated? it is complicated, opinion polls suggest _ complicated? it is complicated, opinion polls suggest the - complicated? it is complicated, i opinion polls suggest the majority of people in wales, like in england, support the concept of the monarchy but for those who oppose it, may be a quarter of the population, there is an emotional element that i don't think exists in england. for those people monarchy is a symbol that wales is a conquered country, it is a subordinate country within the united kingdom. we need to remember the history of the title of the prince of wales, used by the last native ruler of wales before conquest, but then edward the first came along and took that title and gaveit came along and took that title and gave it to his son as a symbol that wales was now under the control of the english crown. for many people the english crown. for many people the fact that the title is still usedis the fact that the title is still used is a reminder that wales is a conquered nation.— used is a reminder that wales is a conquered nation. dylan, language and nationalism _ conquered nation. dylan, language and nationalism are _ conquered nation. dylan, language and nationalism are of— conquered nation. dylan, language and nationalism are of course - and nationalism are of course linked. how important is it that

king charles speaks some welsh? he does speak some welsh having studied welsh _ does speak some welsh having studied welsh in _ does speak some welsh having studied welsh in the 19605, but doe5 5peak some welsh having studied welsh in the 19605, but the relationship between wale5 welsh in the 19605, but the relationship between wales and the language and the language it5elf relationship between wales and the language and the language itself has changed _ language and the language itself has changed a lot since then. welsh is now an _ changed a lot since then. welsh is now an official language, it wasn't back then, — now an official language, it wasn't back then, it will be seen on road signs. _ back then, it will be seen on road signs. so— back then, it will be seen on road signs, so anybody who comes to wales 5ign5, so anybody who comes to wales to visit_ 5ign5, so anybody who comes to wales to visit will_ 5ign5, so anybody who comes to wales to visit will see that. it is also changed — to visit will see that. it is also changed in— to visit will see that. it is also changed in terms of the speakers. i think— changed in terms of the speakers. i think the _ changed in terms of the speakers. i think the speakers now are younger think the 5peaker5 now are younger probably— think the speakers now are younger probably on average, more diverse, many— probably on average, more diverse, many more — probably on average, more diverse, many more people have learned welsh a5 many more people have learned welsh as adults. _ many more people have learned welsh as adults. or— many more people have learned welsh as adults, or have learned welsh in the education system where welsh is a compulsory subject, so when charles— a compulsory subject, so when charles became prince of wales it would _ charles became prince of wales it would have been unusual for somebody to learn— would have been unusual for somebody to learn welsh if they were not from a welsh _ to learn welsh if they were not from a welsh speaking family. now that has changed, so those two factors i think— has changed, so those two factors i think of— has changed, so those two factors i think of something prince william ntight— think of something prince william might be — think of something prince william might be pondering, the official status— might be pondering, the official status of— might be pondering, the official status of the welsh language and also the — status of the welsh language and also the fact there are thousands and thousands of people in wales from _ and thousands of people in wales from all— and thousands of people in wales from all kinds of backgrounds and nationalities who speak welsh, having — nationalities who speak welsh, having learned it as adults were outside — having learned it as adults were outside the home. was having learned it as adults were

outside the home.— having learned it as adults were outside the home. was there a sense of surrise outside the home. was there a sense of surprise in — outside the home. was there a sense of surprise in wales _ outside the home. was there a sense of surprise in wales that _ outside the home. was there a sense of surprise in wales that king - of surprise in wales that king charles announced that prince william would be the new prince of wales so quickly? the william would be the new prince of wales so quickly?— wales so quickly? the key issue is the timing. _ wales so quickly? the key issue is the timing. i _ wales so quickly? the key issue is the timing, i don't _ wales so quickly? the key issue is the timing, i don't think— wales so quickly? the key issue is the timing, i don't think anybody l the timing, i don't think anybody was surprised that charles made william prince of wales, it is a long tradition, monarchy is all about tradition, but some people are very cynical about the timing, the fact it was announced straightaway, has been interpreted by some as an effort to clamp down on debate. there is a feeling that it would have been unseemly to kind of question his decision so close to the queen's death and some people feel this was done deliberately in order to ensure there isn't any debate because a lot of people are very angry about it. till debate because a lot of people are very angry about it.— very angry about it. till then, do ou think very angry about it. till then, do you think it _ very angry about it. till then, do you think it will— very angry about it. till then, do you think it will be _ very angry about it. till then, do you think it will be a _ very angry about it. till then, do you think it will be a challenge l very angry about it. till then, do | you think it will be a challenge for prince william to carve out his role, given he doesn't speak much welsh? he has lived here of course for a few years, but he has particular challenges ahead, like who will he support in the football? will it be england or wales? he does have challenges, _ will it be england or wales? he does have challenges, because _ will it be england or wales? he does have challenges, because he - will it be england or wales? he does have challenges, because he often . have challenges, because he often commands the royal family on a wider

sense, _ commands the royal family on a wider sense, are _ commands the royal family on a wider sense, are often seen as an endless family. _ sense, are often seen as an endless family. with — sense, are often seen as an endless family, with strong scottish ties and those guys with —— ties with scotland — and those guys with —— ties with scotland are pretty much stronger than those with wales. it is unusual he was _ than those with wales. it is unusual he was announced as prince of wales, it is unusual— he was announced as prince of wales, it is unusual a5 a big break with history. — it is unusual a5 a big break with history, traditionally the prince of wales— hi5tory, traditionally the prince of wales is— history, traditionally the prince of wales is never announced immediately after the _ wales is never announced immediately after the death of a previous nioniker_ after the death of a previous moniker so it is a big statement and a controversial one. so far william, although— a controversial one. so far william, although he — a controversial one. so far william, although he has lived in wales for some _ although he has lived in wales for some time, he hasn't done things like engage with the welsh language like engage with the welsh language like his— like engage with the welsh language like his father did back in the 1960s — like his father did back in the 19605. so given the changes we have seen in _ 19605. so given the changes we have seen in wales and the fact we have the senedd behind us, a bilingual institution representing the whole of wales, — institution representing the whole of wales, it will be interesting to see whether he does take proactive steps _ see whether he does take proactive steps to _ see whether he does take proactive steps to engage with the welsh language and culture as he probably hasn't _ language and culture as he probably hasn't done in the past. is language and culture as he probably hasn't done in the past.— hasn't done in the past. is there a generational— hasn't done in the past. is there a generational divide _ hasn't done in the past. is there a generational divide between - hasn't done in the past. is there a| generational divide between those who support the monarchy and perhaps those who feel a bit more hesitant? i think across the whole of the uk the younger you are the more questioning you are of the monarchy.

if we take a step back, it is an odd thing for a modern democracy to have an unelected head of state, and young people don't necessarily have that emotional connection with monarchy that older people do. but even amongst young people, opinion polls suggest that opinion is equally split. polls suggest that opinion is equally split-— polls suggest that opinion is equally split. polls suggest that opinion is euuall slit. ., , equally split. thank you both very much, equally split. thank you both very much. very _ equally split. thank you both very much, very interesting _ equally split. thank you both very much, very interesting to - equally split. thank you both very much, very interesting to have i equally split. thank you both very l much, very interesting to have your thoughts. let's show you the live pictures from westminster. we have heard of course that the government has just announced on a tweet that they are suspending entry to the queue, possibly for up to six hours. they arejust saying queue, possibly for up to six hours. they are just saying to people, take a moment to think whether today is the time to come down and join that queue because they are growing in numbers from very early this morning, it was about a six or seven hour wait and now we're looking at a 12 hour wait in the queue to get a westminster hall. the talk cardiff today of course is in welcoming prince charles, the first time he will be here in cardiff as monarch and reflections on his life and the

commitments he has made to wales back to the time when he was a student at aberystwyth. also with me is geraint evans. he was charles' neighbour in his halls of residence. take us back to that time. it is 2022 and _ take us back to that time. it is 2022 and we — take us back to that time. it is 2022 and we go _ take us back to that time. it is 2022 and we go back- take us back to that time. it 3 2022 and we go back 53 years, is a matter of fact it seems strange. but you know, i was in my finals there, and so i have chosen this room which was at the end of a corridor, and then i discovered as we were moving towards easter time that prince charles was going to be my neighbour. i think the room that he came to was, as i mentioned a moment ago, specially chosen because it was one of the few rooms in the hall of residence that didn't have a three—way, so there were security reasons, so there was i in the room in the middle with the policeman next door, and there was prince charles. ~ ., ~

next door, and there was prince charles. ~ . ~ ., charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well, charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well. he _ charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well, he was, _ charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well, he was, i _ charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well, he was, i think, _ charles. what kind of neighbour was he? well, he was, i think, good - he? well, he was, ithink, good neighbour- _ he? well, he was, ithink, good neighbour- l— he? well, he was, ithink, good neighbour. i never— he? well, he was, ithink, good neighbour. i never had - he? well, he was, ithink, good neighbour. i never had to - he? well, he was, i think, good i neighbour. i never had to complain about the noise or anything like that. you did meet him from time to time. i met him walking back naturally back and forward along the corridor. you would see him in the hall of residence. but i was saying that this was in the final term of three years, so everybody was working rather busily. i'm sure i should have worked harder! but everybody was rather busy, so there wasn't a great opportunity for socialising. and he came to aberystwyth, he stayed there, he learned some welsh, and then he went away. taste learned some welsh, and then he went awa . ~ ., learned some welsh, and then he went awa . . . , ., ,. , learned some welsh, and then he went awa. . ,. , away. we are showing pictures of his investiture in — away. we are showing pictures of his investiture in 1969. _ away. we are showing pictures of his investiture in 1969. what _ away. we are showing pictures of his investiture in 1969. what are - away. we are showing pictures of his investiture in 1969. what are your i investiture in 1969. what are your memories of that? hat investiture in 1969. what are your memories of that?— investiture in 1969. what are your memories of that? ., ., , ., , memories of that? not many memories. i didn't no memories of that? not many memories. i didn't go to _ memories of that? not many memories. i didn't go to the — memories of that? not many memories. i didn't go to the investiture _ memories of that? not many memories. i didn't go to the investiture at _ i didn't go to the investiture at all. i've seen pictures of it, and then the ceremony at caernarfon castle. it seemed to me rather mad perhaps for him as well, rather a

staged event, but there we are, that is what ceremonial is all about, i suppose, and we will be seeing a good deal of ceremonial in these last few days. did good deal of ceremonial in these last few days-— good deal of ceremonial in these last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he _ last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he came _ last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he came to _ last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he came to our _ last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he came to our house i last few days. did he ever ask you for tea? he came to our house for tea, he for tea? he came to our house for tea. he came _ for tea? he came to our house for tea. he came to — for tea? he came to our house for tea, he came to meet _ for tea? he came to our house for tea, he came to meet my - for tea? he came to our house for tea, he came to meet my parents| for tea? he came to our house for- tea, he came to meet my parents with other students and we had a convivial gathering and a memorable occasion, and of course the policeman came along as well, just in case we might have put something in case we might have put something in the tea! ~ ., ,., in case we might have put something in the tea! ~ ., ., ., ,~/ in the tea! what sort of king do you think he would _ in the tea! what sort of king do you think he would be? _ in the tea! what sort of king do you think he would be? well, _ in the tea! what sort of king do you think he would be? well, i- in the tea! what sort of king do you think he would be? well, i think i think he would be? well, i think he's waited _ think he would be? well, i think he's waited long. _ think he would be? well, i think he's waited long. i've _ think he would be? well, i think he's waited long. i've long i think he would be? well, i think. he's waited long. i've long retired from myjob and he'sjust he's waited long. i've long retired from myjob and he's just entering hisjob now. i think he will be a wise king. he has said this several times, he had a long period of time to come as it were, practice for the job, and he comes into it in maturity and he will make a contribution, i think. maturity and he will make a contribution, ithink. i maturity and he will make a contribution, ithink.- maturity and he will make a contribution, ithink. contribution, i think. i can't let ou no contribution, i think. i can't let you go until — contribution, i think. i can't let you go until you _ contribution, i think. i can't let you go until you tell _ contribution, i think. i can't let you go until you tell us - contribution, i think. i can't let you go until you tell us about | contribution, ithink. i can't let. you go until you tell us about this letter you have discovered that you featured in quite heavily. 3c} letter you have discovered that you featured in quite heavily.— featured in quite heavily. 30 years after leaving. _ featured in quite heavily. 30 years

after leaving, alongside _ featured in quite heavily. 30 years after leaving, alongside the i featured in quite heavily. 30 years after leaving, alongside the 30 i after leaving, alongside the 30 years rule i discovered the secretary of state for wales, then george thomas, had written a letter to harold wilson who suggested that harold wilson should speak to the queen because he was rather concerned about the undue influence of the neighbour. when i read this letter, and by the way he wrote it in his own hand, so that the civil servants didn't see it, when i heard about this letter i was absolutely astounded because, i mean, it was inconceivable that i would knock on his door and say, "now then, don't you think you should be thinking more seriously?" ihla you think you should be thinking more seriously?"— you think you should be thinking more seriousl ?" ., ., ., , ., �* more seriously?" no idea what you're undue influence _ more seriously?" no idea what you're undue influence might _ more seriously?" no idea what you're undue influence might have _ more seriously?" no idea what you're undue influence might have been? i more seriously?" no idea what you're| undue influence might have been? no undue influence might have been? in? idea. i undue influence might have been? no idea- i thank — undue influence might have been? no idea. i thank you _ undue influence might have been? no idea. i thank you for— undue influence might have been? no idea. i thank you forjoining _ undue influence might have been? no idea. i thank you forjoining us - undue influence might have been? no idea. i thank you forjoining us in i idea. i thank you for 'oining us in the sunshine i idea. i thank you for 'oining us in the sunshine in i idea. i thank you forjoining us in the sunshine in cardiff. - idea. i thank you forjoining us in the sunshine in cardiff. don't i the sunshine in cardiff. don't forget we have continuing coverage from cardiff throughout the day of king charles iii's visit, but also the bbc website where we have a life page “p the bbc website where we have a life page up and running, bbc.com/ news, thatis page up and running, bbc.com/ news, that is keeping you up—to—date with all the events here and around the

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