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king charles says the country held a "special place" in his mother's heart as he addressed a remembrance event at the senedd. the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbenig i gymru yn ei chalon. meanwhile in central london, thousands are continuing to join the queue in order to pass by the queen's coffin despite authorities closing the gates to southwark park for a period earlier this morning, saying it had reached capacity. i'm karin giannone, with those crowds of people waiting to pay their respects to the late queen as she lies in state in westminster hall. the queen's children, including king charles, will be keeping a vigil over her coffin this evening.
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and i'm martine croxall here in the studio. i'll be speaking to a former press officer to the queen for his thoughts as the nation continues to pay tribute. hello and welcome to cardiff, where king charles has begun his first official visit to wales as monarch by attending a service of prayer and reflection for queen elizabeth ii. in the senedd, an hour ago, about a thousand people were standing in sunshine and welcoming the king and the queen consort as they visited the queen consort as they visited the senedd. it was completely calm, quiet and still as everyone turned to watch the big screens when king charles addressed the parliament not just in english but also in welsh, a
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hugely symbolic moment for people here, to hear the king speaking welsh so fluently and talking about his mother and his memories of his time here in wales and what the country meant to him and to the royal family. when he left, there were lots of cheers. there were a few people who were not happy that the king was here but they were quickly drowned out by cheers of approval from quickly drowned out by cheers of approvalfrom people in the quickly drowned out by cheers of approval from people in the crowd and now he has gone to cardiff castle, where about 2000 members of the public will be able to see him and meet with him later this afternoon. let's show you the pictures that we have from inside the castle, where you can see the events that are now under way. we can also show you pictures from central london because while there are activities here in cardiff today, in london, the queue to see the queen lying in state, we understand, has still been paused at southwark park, which is at the very end of the queue, and it has reached
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capacity, the queue is about eight kilometres long now. we have also heard that it has been confirmed that at the king's request, both princes william and harry will be in uniform when they take part in a vigil beside the queen's offin saturday evening. the king and his siblings will hold a similar vigil at the queen's lying in state this evening. —— beside the queen's coffin on saturday evening. to bring you back to wales, let's take you through the events of the day and there were crowds of cheering well—wishers lining the street in cardiff to great king charles and the queen consort, particularly first thing this morning when they went to llandaff cathedral, arriving there for a service of remembrance. in his address, the archbishop of wales said the queen has graced the life of wales with love, dignity and courage. prayers were said by faith leaders including speakers from the
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jewish and muslim communities. then they headed to the senedd where they heard condolences from the first minister mark drakeford and other party leaders and members of the welsh parliament as well. and he spoke, as i mentioned, in both english and welsh, alternating, vowing to follow the selfless example of the queen. he also expressed his gratitude to the welsh people. iam i am deeply grateful for the messages of condolence which pay tribute to my sovereign mother the queen. gwn y bydd senedd a phobl cymru yn rhannu fy nhristwch. through all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart.
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roedd lle arbenig i gymru yn ei chalon. after that address, he came down the steps of the senedd and we were not sure if he was going to come and greet the crowd who had been waiting on a sunshine for a few hours. but when he did, _ on a sunshine for a few hours. but when he did, there was a ripple of applause. he has been meeting with the crowds wherever he goes and in this instance this morning, he not only shook hands but managed to fist bump somebody in the crowd who was completely thrilled. it was a lovely thing to say. there's a huge amount of support for him amongst all the people who are gathered here before he then made his way to cardiff castle. let's take you to inside the castle where we can joinjennifer jones who is with the crowds. how is the atmosphere there? there is an atmosphere of anticipation and excitement because king charles iii and the queen consort are still here, they are inside the castle apartments behind me and there are hundreds of people here still
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waiting to catch a glimpse of them as they leave and perhaps be the second person to fist bump the new king as he walks around and chat to people. let's get some thoughts on today's events with you thomas, an historic day in cardiff.— historic day in cardiff. absolutely, i think from _ historic day in cardiff. absolutely, i think from the _ historic day in cardiff. absolutely, i think from the start, _ historic day in cardiff. absolutely, i think from the start, seeing - historic day in cardiff. absolutely, i think from the start, seeing the | i think from the start, seeing the arrival in llandaff cathedral, and the service there but also in the senedd, the significance of king charles the speaking welsh in the senedd and those pictures being beamed around the world, can't really be overstated because he is a monarch now but he learned welsh as a young prince of wales and he has dropped it in here and there over the years but that is probably the most we have heard him speak welsh in recent times. that is a significant moment in itself but also to come to the castle now and meet people here, to have private audiences with their first minister of wales, mark drakeford, and with the presiding officer of the senedd, so a chance for a private discussion, a confidential one, one where you hope they will discuss the
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future relationship that clicking will have with wales, having had such a close one as prince of wales. —— the king will have with wale. 0ver —— the king will have with wale. over the past 60 years, he has immersed himself in welsh culture and language and has got to know the people. he and language and has got to know the --eole. . , and language and has got to know the --eole. �* and language and has got to know the n-eole. �* ., people. he has, it hasn't always been a great — people. he has, it hasn't always been a great relationship - people. he has, it hasn't always been a great relationship in - people. he has, it hasn't always l been a great relationship in terms of the popularity that he has enjoyed, a hint of protest today as well and he has had to face that over the years, too. but also, he has managed to really immerse himself with key organisations here, like the royal welsh college of music and drama where he sponsors some of the students but also attend board meetings, where he gets hands—on and follows up and has a very close relationship and will write and expect decisions and changes and to know how these organisations are adapting and expanding. likewise, a lot of them have turned to him for help, when charities or individuals have been trying to progress their own businesses and causes. they will ask the prince for any advice you can give, the organisations he is involved with, how can they help? that has formed a lot of close bonds over the is. inside,
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that has formed a lot of close bonds overthe is. inside, he that has formed a lot of close bonds over the is. inside, he is meeting those people and i don't know if it were, but a lot of people will be wondering whether that relationship goes from now, will it continue with the king or will the new prince of wales take up the reins? in 2008, heater position _ wales take up the reins? in 2008, heater position of _ wales take up the reins? in 2008, heater position of an _ wales take up the reins? in 2008, heater position of an estate - wales take up the reins? in 2008, heater position of an estate in - heater position of an estate in carmarthenshire just on the outskirts of the brecon beacons and we know he likes spending time there getting away from it all and spends wales week there every year but he won't be up to spend as much time there in future?— there in future? know, that is an estate but _ there in future? know, that is an estate but you — there in future? know, that is an estate but you would _ there in future? know, that is an estate but you would not - there in future? know, that is an estate but you would not know. there in future? know, that is an estate but you would not know itj there in future? know, that is an - estate but you would not know it was there, it is a place in real century, he went there after the duke of edinburgh died last year to escape the attention. it is a place you can escape to. it is also a place that he uses and has used regularly for big functions. i was there injuly when he had acting students performing for him but also, there were other ambassadors from china and italy and the netherlands who would come to rural carmarthenshire for an evening with ., i prince of wales at his itruieiish the prince of wales at his welsh house. the soft power of that is
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particularly useful to those welsh organisations who benefit from the relationship that they had with prince of but certainly, managed get himself he managed to get himself a home which he spent a0 years looking for the right spot, he said, he's got that in wales and it may still be useful to him asking but it is also where that prince william will take, if not possession of it as a home, but at least be able to use it to extent that charles has as but at least be able to use it to has ent that charles has as but at least be able to use it to has reallyat charles has as but at least be able to use it to has really championed s as he has reahv themes-we u='=“ welsh he has reall¥ themes-we u='=“ welsh culture he h55 reall¥ themes-we ue'fl�* welsh culture and h5 h55 r55ll¥ 5h5mr55"=5 u5'5“ welsh culture and music, cancer —— welsh culture and music, in 2000, he reinstated the title of artist the prince of official artist to the prince of wales and finch was the wales and catrin finch was the first. �* , ., ., ., ~ wales and catrin finch was the first. �*, ., ., ., ~ ., first. there's a lot of talk about ro al first. there's a lot of talk about royal traditions, _ first. there's a lot of talk about royal traditions, the _ first. there's a lot of talk about royal traditions, the good - first. there's a lot of talk about royal traditions, the good and i first. there's a lot of talk about i royal traditions, the good and the bad, but you can argue that he has done a lot for harp music but also for the royal tradition of sponsoring a harpist in wales and catrin finch is arguably the most famous harpist in the world at this point and being associated with the prince of wales at that time would have helped the early years of her career but also, it is a process by which so many other harpists can
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earn the respect not only of the prince of wales but also perform in all kinds of places and be a real part of big events like today at llandaff cathedral so certainly, his role in promoting the culture of wales has been crucial.- role in promoting the culture of wales has been crucial. thank you for “oininu wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us- _ wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us. let's _ wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us. let's go _ wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us. let's go back- wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us. let's go back to - wales has been crucial. thank you forjoining us. let's go back to the senedd and lucy in cardiff bay. jennifer, thank you. the queen came to wales 300 times. she visited every corner of the land and there were people sharing their memories this morning of the queen but also very much looking ahead with a sense of anticipation to the reign of king charles. let's take you to charanpreet khaira who is in the crowds at cardiff castle and i wonder what they're feeling is about the new king, what they are looking forward to about his reign? lucy, i am in the heart of the crowd at
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cardiff castle and i think people more than anything want to catch a glimpse of the new king. people have travelled from far and wide. i met a couple who had been in the queue since a:a5am and had travelled all the way from switzerland. some members of the crowd have even dressed up for the occasion. ladies, tell me about your outfits. mr; tell me about your outfits. my outfit, tell me about your outfits. i’i outfit, actually, tell me about your outfits. ii outfit, actually, charles is honoured because this is normally only worn on rugby days so i put it only worn on rugby days so i put it on today for charles and i hope he likes the crowns as well, shall we tell you that story?— likes the crowns as well, shall we | tell you that story?_ we tell you that story? please do. we went to a local— tell you that story? please do. we went to a local burger _ tell you that story? please do. we i went to a local burger establishment where they had these crowns so i got one for all of my friends. find where they had these crowns so i got one for all of my friends.— one for all of my friends. and i understand _ one for all of my friends. and i understand that _ one for all of my friends. and i understand that the _ one for all of my friends. and i understand that the three - one for all of my friends. and i understand that the three of i one for all of my friends. and i i understand that the three of you just met in the queue, is that right? just met in the queue, is that riuht? . , just met in the queue, is that riuht? ., , . right? that is quite correct, i didn't know _ right? that is quite correct, i didn't know these _ right? that is quite correct, i didn't know these ladies - right? that is quite correct, i i didn't know these ladies before. right? that is quite correct, i - didn't know these ladies before. we have become friends since we have been _ have become friends since we have been in _ have become friends since we have been in the — have become friends since we have been in the queue _ have become friends since we have been in the queue. tell— have become friends since we have been in the queue.— have become friends since we have been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere. — been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere. a _ been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere, a lot _ been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere, a lot of— been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere, a lot of people - been in the queue. tell me about the atmosphere, a lot of people will - atmosphere, a lot of people will have been watching from home and would not have been able to come themselves so paint the picture for them, what has it been like this
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morning? it them, what has it been like this mornin: ? . , them, what has it been like this mornin: ? .,, , them, what has it been like this mornin ? .,, , ., , , morning? it has been absolutely amazin: , morning? it has been absolutely amazing, everybody _ morning? it has been absolutely amazing, everybody is _ morning? it has been absolutely amazing, everybody is in - morning? it has been absolutely amazing, everybody is in a - morning? it has been absolutely| amazing, everybody is in a really good _ amazing, everybody is in a really good spirit. _ amazing, everybody is in a really good spirit. they— amazing, everybody is in a really good spirit, they are _ amazing, everybody is in a really good spirit, they are all- amazing, everybody is in a really good spirit, they are all very- good spirit, they are all very friendlx _ good spirit, they are all very friendly. lots _ good spirit, they are all very friendly. lots of _ good spirit, they are all very friendly. lots of smiles - good spirit, they are all very friendly. lots of smiles and i friendly. lots of smiles and welcoming _ friendly. lots of smiles and welcoming. it— friendly. lots of smiles and welcoming. it is— friendly. lots of smiles and welcoming. it is really, - friendly. lots of smiles and i welcoming. it is really, really nice — welcoming. it is really, really nice wales_ welcoming. it is really, really nice. wales has— welcoming. it is really, really nice. wales has put- welcoming. it is really, really nice. wales has put on- welcoming. it is really, really nice. wales has put on a - welcoming. it is really, really nice. wales has put on a real| welcoming. it is really, really- nice. wales has put on a real good show_ nice. wales has put on a real good show for— nice. wales has put on a real good show for the — nice. wales has put on a real good show for the new— nice. wales has put on a real good show for the new king. _ nice. wales has put on a real good show for the new king. find - nice. wales has put on a real good show for the new king.— show for the new king. and of course, show for the new king. and of course. king _ show for the new king. and of course, king charles - show for the new king. and of course, king charles iii - show for the new king. and of course, king charles iii is - course, king charles iii is currently in the castle, he is meeting a number of charities and the first minister. what do you think it will be like for the people at the front of the queue who get to meet him? �* . ~ at the front of the queue who get to meet him? �* ., . , ., meet him? amazing. we 'ust did not aet here meet him? amazing. we 'ust did not get here early * meet him? amazing. we 'ust did not get here early enough. _ meet him? amazing. we just did not get here early enough. we _ meet him? amazing. we just did not get here early enough. we were - meet him? amazing. wejust did not| get here early enough. we were here at about 10am but no way we could get to the front. but good luck to those who did. i would like to meet him and give him a crown. fiend those who did. i would like to meet him and give him a crown. find i him and give him a crown. and i understand _ him and give him a crown. and i understand you _ him and give him a crown. and i understand you have _ him and give him a crown. and i understand you have brought i him and give him a crown. and i understand you have brought a get for him as well. for understand you have brought a get for him as well.— for him as well. for the queen, reall . i for him as well. for the queen, really. i picked _ for him as well. for the queen, really. i picked this _ for him as well. for the queen, really. i picked this header - really. i picked this header yesterday in upper cwmbran, some welsh _ yesterday in upper cwmbran, some welsh heather. for a fabulous queen. and kind _
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welsh heather. for a fabulous queen. and king. sorry! welsh heather. for a fabulous queen. and king- sorry!— and king. sorry! that's quite all riuht. and king. sorry! that's quite all right- thank _ and king. sorry! that's quite all right. thank you _ and king. sorry! that's quite all right. thank you so _ and king. sorry! that's quite all right. thank you so much, - and king. sorry! that's quite all i right. thank you so much, ladies. and king. sorry! that's quite all. right. thank you so much, ladies. i hope you get your glimpse of king charles iii when comes through. thank you. charles iii when comes through. thank you-— charles iii when comes through. thank you. charles iii when comes through. thank ou. �* ., 11:11: , ., thank you. around 2000 people have been allowed — thank you. around 2000 people have been allowed into _ thank you. around 2000 people have been allowed into cardiff— thank you. around 2000 people have been allowed into cardiff castle - thank you. around 2000 people have been allowed into cardiff castle for. been allowed into cardiff castle for this event. 0ne been allowed into cardiff castle for this event. one of the lucky few is celia. celine. tell me, what do you think the king will be like? i celia. celine. tell me, what do you think the king will be like?- think the king will be like? i think he will be a _ think the king will be like? i think he will be a good _ think the king will be like? i think he will be a good king, _ think the king will be like? i think he will be a good king, try - think the king will be like? i think he will be a good king, try his - he will be a good king, try his hardest to make everybody happy. fiend hardest to make everybody happy. and what have you seen so far today? have you seen the pony and the goat? i have seen the goat and king charles and camilla and i have seen mark drakeford.— mark drakeford. that's absolutely brilliant. thank _ mark drakeford. that's absolutely brilliant. thank you _ mark drakeford. that's absolutely brilliant. thank you so _ mark drakeford. that's absolutely brilliant. thank you so much. - mark drakeford. that's absolutely brilliant. thank you so much. a i brilliant. thank you so much. a number of people have also chosen to line the streets outside the castle to catch their glimpse of the king as he leaves, and when he came in earlier on this historic first trip to wales. back to you at the senedd.
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i , thank you so much. let's return to that moment at the senedd. i don't think it can be otherjust how symbolic it felt when king charles addressed parliamentarians in both english and in welsh. they are both national languages, of course. watching that with us was sam blaxland, a historian at ucl. what did you think of the address king charles made of some of the references in his speech? iiis references in his speech? his reference _ references in his speech? his reference to _ references in his speech? pi 3 reference to the medieval princess was interesting. we are going back a long way there, post the norman conquest, 1066 all that, where welsh people were essentially being colonised by english invaders, and thatis colonised by english invaders, and that is a very serious thing that a lot of welsh nationalists feel
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strongly about now. since the 1500s, the act of union and all the way through the industrial revolution, wales and welsh people have played an integral role in britain, the empire, in the world wars, and yet charles, sorry, the king still feels he has to reach back to the medieval past. you know is there is criticism enough from nationalists currently to warrant saying something about that, so that is significant. the relationship — that, so that is significant. the relationship between the monarchy and the welsh people was described to me as complicated. is that a word you would use? for to me as complicated. is that a word you would use?— you would use? for some people, it is. they dislike _ you would use? for some people, it is. they dislike the _ you would use? for some people, it is. they dislike the monarchy - you would use? for some people, it is. they dislike the monarchy and i is. they dislike the monarchy and think wales, with its quite new parliament and modern, fresh set of identities, shouldn't have a monarchy, and that the monarchy is an english figure. the vast majority of people do see themselves in some sort of way as welsh and british, a
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dual identity. because the monarch is the head of the british state, they see that as a reasonably comfortable idea. today is not representative of the welsh population, but there is broadly i think a sense of warmth notjust for queen elizabeth ii but for the new king, and i think the way he will pledge it, building on his reputation as prince of wales, they will carry on thinking that is a reasonable set up for a head of state. ~ ., , ., reasonable set up for a head of state. . .,, .,, , , reasonable set up for a head of state. ~ .,, , , ., state. was no surprise that the timin: of state. was no surprise that the timing of when _ state. was no surprise that the timing of when prince - state. was no surprise that the timing of when prince charles i state. was no surprise that the i timing of when prince charles said prince william would become the prince william would become the prince of wales so quickly? there were some _ prince of wales so quickly? there were some eyebrows _ prince of wales so quickly? there were some eyebrows raised i prince of wales so quickly? there were some eyebrows raised from| prince of wales so quickly? iuee were some eyebrows raised from some quarters, but this is a hereditary monarchy, very hierarchical. it took awhile for charles to be named prince of wales, and for his investitu re, prince of wales, and for his investiture, but that was because he so young.
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investiture, but that was because he so oune. , ., ., investiture, but that was because he so young-_ it _ investiture, but that was because he so young-_ it was - so young. explain that. it was announced — so young. explain that. it was announced in _ so young. explain that. it was announced in 1958. _ so young. explain that. it was announced in 1958. the i so young. explain that. it wasj announced in 1958. the whole so young. explain that. it was i announced in 1958. the whole idea so young. explain that. it was - announced in 1958. the whole idea of announced in 1958. the whole idea of a prince of wales is complicated. medieval monarchs and the idea of wales being a colony of england, there was some controversy, and around the investiture in 1969, there was a bombing campaign, a small but significant one to try and disrupt the activities around charles going to caernarvon castle in north—west wales. he was in front of his mother having a crown placed on his head than there were very famous protest songs written about it, but ultimately, again, this is to some extent a vocal minority thing like we have now. there were plenty of people, even in north—west wales, clear about their sense of welshness, who love the investiture and were keen on it and supported and were keen on it and supported and cheered charles then. item; and cheered charles then. very careful consideration will have to
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be made on whether we will have another investiture. it be made on whether we will have another investiture.— another investiture. it will not have all the _ another investiture. it will not have all the pomp _ another investiture. it will not have all the pomp and - another investiture. it will not i have all the pomp and circumstance that charles had in connaughton. they can't make it all bland and bureaucratic. if william is made the prince of wales here, in this very modern building, does it feel like a new political process, a typical, grey political stunt? what some people like about monarchy is how unusual it is, the horns, the anthems, the pageantry, the ceremony. it adds a splash of colour. i think william is very effective at being a modern monarch. he is a typical father figure, ordinary in some ways, and he won't want a service that seems out of the ordinary. the monarchy, extraordinary by its nature, is top of our hierarchical system. without
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that pageantry, as you say, i think it will lose the aura that makes it special. it will be a difficult fine line for them to tread about not doing something that looks imperial or colonial, but also doing something that looks special. d0 or colonial, but also doing something that looks special. do you think it is important _ something that looks special. do you think it is important for _ something that looks special. do you think it is important for him - something that looks special. do you think it is important for him to i think it is important for him to carve out a different role as prince of wales, perhaps even more visible? that is what society expects, especially with social media, where every movie is captured.— especially with social media, where every movie is captured. he and his wife are quite _ every movie is captured. he and his wife are quite good _ every movie is captured. he and his wife are quite good at _ every movie is captured. he and his wife are quite good at relating i every movie is captured. he and his wife are quite good at relating to i wife are quite good at relating to people. —— every move is captured. he is doing walk abouts, more handshaking with ordinary people. it is a different approach. he is carrying on with the way of doing things, but there are differences. and on the football, who does he support? has and on the football, who does he su ort? �* , ., and on the football, who does he suuort? �*, ., ., and on the football, who does he su ort? a ., ., ,., and on the football, who does he su--ort? a ., ., , ., ., and on the football, who does he sun-ort? a ., ., ,., ., , support? as head of state, i am sure he would say — support? as head of state, i am sure he would say he _ support? as head of state, i am sure he would say he is _ support? as head of state, i am sure he would say he is rooting _ support? as head of state, i am sure he would say he is rooting for- support? as head of state, i am sure he would say he is rooting for them l he would say he is rooting for them
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both. .,. he would say he is rooting for them both. ., . ., . he would say he is rooting for them both. .,. .,. ., . 1, both. facing each other in the world cu - , both. facing each other in the world cu, a both. facing each other in the world cup. a difficult _ both. facing each other in the world cup, a difficult decision _ both. facing each other in the world cup, a difficult decision for- both. facing each other in the world cup, a difficult decision for him. i cup, a difficult decision for him. back tojennifer now, still inside cardiff castle. we have just been listening to the regimental band of the royal welsh, playing welsh hymns and more familiar classical music. i was talking to our news correspondent, and we are expecting king charles iii and the queen consort to exit the castle apartments any minute now. , . ., ., ., ., now. they will come out and have another walkabout, _ now. they will come out and have another walkabout, which - now. they will come out and have another walkabout, which have i now. they will come out and have i another walkabout, which have gone so well so far today. we know when he does come out it will be an opportunity to shake hands, meet people here, but also he is being very well received. he does this when he came here as prince of wales, in the rhondda a few weeks ago, there were 1000 people on the
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streets as he toured the high street, getting the kind of reception people might have forgotten he would get. it hasn't always been a relationship where you would expect big crowds of people to come out cheering, but they have today, and we've seen that in the castle as well as on the street. we can see pictures of him nowjust saying a few words to those representatives of charities and civic leaders. just remind us. i think that is mark drakeford, the first minister.— first minister. that crucial first -rivate first minister. that crucial first private audience _ first minister. that crucial first private audience today. - first minister. that crucial first private audience today. there l first minister. that crucial first i private audience today. there isn't a formal relationship in terms of audiences with the first minister of wales, but they met injuly when he was prince of wales. it does keep in touch, he maintains that relationship, and you would expect that to continue now that he is king, even if there is not the weekly formality of audiences that he has with the prime minister. those representatives of key organisations that he has been involved with as prince of wales,
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and will probably want to keep those relationships going as well, now that he is king. certainly, the role he has has changed and it remains to be seen how much of the formality of public life he wants to give to william now that he is prince of wales. you would imagine that, having spent nearly 60 years as prince of wales, he will want to keep those connections going because he has made such a strong impact on those people, and really has taken a keen personal interest in how they do and what they are up to, because he is constantly checking in with them. if he is not, his private office are doing that as well. i mention places like the royal welsh couege mention places like the royal welsh college of music and drama, but there are others too, big projects, for instance, when swansea university was expanding the campus, the prince's foundation was involved in discussions about how to do that,
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and to the design specifications which were world class. the prince of wales was keen on getting a lot of wales was keen on getting a lot of that sort of stuff moving. he also takes an interest in heritage, places like the castles of wales, which are still connected with the conquest of wales by the english monarch. they are now places of heritage and culture, and the restoration and upkeep of castles are one of his main priorities. he is someone who wants to be involved, wants to get stuff done, and this is his opportunity to meet up with some of those people. the vice chancellor of those people. the vice chancellor of the university of wales, someone he has been meeting inside the castle today in one of these horseshoe groups. i think that is him just to the left of him in the picture at the moment. these types of connections he has had with
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academia, heritage, architecture, conservation — the areas he is known to be interested in, that we have heard him talk about from the point of view of having fairly advanced views on these things 30 years ago which are now totally mainstream, and he has been pursuing those causes in wales and been able to do that pretty well, almost without behind—the—scenes role when he has been coming here, but certainly today that is his opportunity to meet up with some of those people, but lots of them, i suspect, wondering how close that relationship can be with the king as he moves into those different duties, those more responsibilities. today he has felt like a reminder of how wales has changed so significantly since prince charles's investiture at caernarvon castle in 1969. of course, we didn't have a senedd, it was before devolution, and now he holds private audiences with the first minister. a very
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different wales in 2022. in some wa s, the different wales in 2022. in some ways, the monarchy _ different wales in 2022. in some ways, the monarchy haven't i different wales in 2022. in some i ways, the monarchy haven't moved as quickly as welsh public life. things like the news of a new prince of wales being allowed quickly took a lot of people by surprise, not least the welsh government, the idea of monarchy still being able to make announcements like that which affect welsh public life without their needing to be a public discussion or consultation even. those are the occasions where there might be a slight jarring occasions where there might be a slightjarring of the relationship. he also sees it as his role to neutralise that a bit as well and he will have hoped to have done that to date, in terms of the speech in the senedd, referencing the last native welsh royal. he placed himself in that long tradition of princess of wales, and places will be meant that
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lineage as well, trying to at least reference and hold on to the past while saying this is our new face, and we hope you will accept him. it is a matter of public debate in wales at the moment as to how much william will be accepted and what his role will be, so i suspect in the coming weeks we may hear more from the palace about william's role, and the slightly thorny issue of whether there would be an investiture as well of any kind, let alone on the scale of 1969.- alone on the scale of 1969. some --eole in alone on the scale of 1969. some people in wales _ alone on the scale of 1969. some people in wales were _ alone on the scale of 1969. some people in wales were quite i alone on the scale of 1969. some people in wales were quite surprised with the speed at which the new king announced that his son william would be prince of wales, but of course, prince william and his wife, catherine, lived on anglesey for nearly three years.— nearly three years. william has lived in wales _ nearly three years. william has lived in wales far _ nearly three years. william has lived in wales far longer - nearly three years. william has lived in wales far longer than l lived in wales far longer than charles ever lived in wales. his roots, if you like, are already
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slightly deeper, at least in conventional welsh life common if not —— conventional welsh life, if not... it will be for william to show what sort of prince of wales he will be, and also how much discussion there will be about the patronage as he might take on, the organisations he may be involved with. there certainly hasn't been anything close to a transition. all discussions i've had over the last 12-18 discussions i've had over the last 12—18 months, researching this, was that there would be no discussion about what comes next until that next thing happened. now that it has happened, you suspect there will be a lot more torque if there isn't already a plan. at the moment, william is patron of the welsh rugby union, and whether he will take on other patronage is, people have said maybe he will have a role in the great outdoors, national parks. perhaps those areas which already have great support from the king,
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from his time as prince of wales, how many of those does he really want to take on and pursue, what does he want to carve out a role which is unique and says william is prince of wales and this is what he stands for? in wales, charles is the only prince of wales any of us have known, and he has been the longest serving, and the only modern prince of wales who has had to adapt to all the focus and attention that came with that. william is entering as a man who is a0 years old, has a family, a public identity already. he now needs to really, i do not know whether he would need to make that more wales, but something needs to happen which shows how he will be prince of wales when the time comes. and you mentioned earlier that there is a bit of a national debate going on in wales. i'm sure that will intensify over the weeks and months as to any potential investiture, like you mention. it is unlikely that we would see anything on the
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scale of that investiture in caernarvon in 1969, and some have suggested it could even take place in the senedd. that suggested it could even take place in the senedd.— suggested it could even take place in the senedd. ., ., , , , ., in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple — in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple of— in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple of times, _ in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple of times, that _ in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple of times, that if- in the senedd. that was suggested to me a couple of times, that if it - me a couple of times, that if it happens at all, it will be small scale, in cardiff, and maybe in cardiff castle or the senedd. the risk is that the senedd is a political stage for that to happen, whereas the consensus is that they do not want it to be perceived to be a political position. clearly, we see the king with mark drakeford, the first minister, inside the castle and about to emerge in the next minute or so. today, the other focus is on the king's links with wales and that meeting he has held with the first minister. i don't think we will get much of a sense of what was discussed, but it will be interesting to see whether the types of meetings he has had today will be something which happens again. it
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was a one—off because of the focus on wales today, or will he want to maintain links with this welsh first minister and first ministers from other devolved nations as well, as well as his traditional role of meeting the prime minister. wales is of course the — meeting the prime minister. wales is of course the last _ meeting the prime minister. wales is of course the last evolve _ meeting the prime minister. wales is of course the last evolve nation i meeting the prime minister. wales is of course the last evolve nation to i of course the last evolve nation to receive a visit from the new king since the death of queen elizabeth. he does seem particularly relaxed here and keen to talk to people, to get to know people better. he is relaxed here, we saw that when he was prince of wales, his sense of wanting to be as at home in these civic environments as he is when he is visiting farmers and the national parks and being able to get hands on as well. wales offers him a bit of a sanctuary away from london life. you wonder whether he will be able to enjoy it as much as king but certainly, we are seeing that
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relaxed approach today, when he has been meeting dignitaries and hopefully we will see it as well when he comes out because certainly, the numbers here have stuck it out, they came in much earlier today in they came in much earlier today in the hope of seeing him and they have had to hang on while he has been inside, holding those private meeting. i inside, holding those private meetinu. , ., ., ., meeting. i spoke to someone earlier who had caught _ meeting. i spoke to someone earlier who had caught the _ meeting. i spoke to someone earlier who had caught the 4:55am - meeting. i spoke to someone earlier who had caught the 4:55am train i meeting. i spoke to someone earlier. who had caught the 4:55am train from who had caught the a:55am train from swansea to get here, they were very excited and i'm sure they are still here waiting for him to come out. you mentioned agriculture is one of his passions, he has been a regular visitor to the royal welsh show, and with the duchess of cornwall, as she was known then. find with the duchess of cornwall, as she was known then.— was known then. and it is also, a controversial _ was known then. and it is also, a controversial thing _ was known then. and it is also, a controversial thing to _ was known then. and it is also, a controversial thing to get - was known then. and it is also, a | controversial thing to get involved in in wales, you will notice about that about the kind of organisations he champions, he has not picked organisations which would be too much controversy. —— not a controversial thing to get involved in. he always picks those elements of welsh life which are imported. wales is a farming nation and a very
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rural nation so he can support not just big organisations and events like the royal welsh show but also take an interest in rare breeds of cattle and sheep and to support those through his organisations. that is where he has this very keen interest. evenjust that is where he has this very keen interest. even just speaking to people about how he behaved when he was in aberystwyth, he would go on holiday from aberystwyth to places like the glan usk estate in south—east wales where he could fish and relax and not really be disturbed. william had a bit of that as well while he was in anglesey, he could enjoy the privacy, and was able to go off walking, and the princess of wales, as she is now, was able to do supermarket shopping in menai bridge and hardly have it remarked upon by the locals stop what she was spotted in the waitrose, i remember. but there is this sense of century, they can come
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to wales, and have an opportunity to, not necessarily blend in but be in the countryside and enjoy that. where his home is in west wales, a rural carmarthenshire, everybody knows him, they all know when he is there, and a lot of them get invited around the events that he has, there is a huge barn there where he hosts people, having drinks but also sitting down, students from the royal welsh college of music and drama will go up and perform skits for him and that kind of thing. we are waiting for charles to come out but there are also pictures of david beckham in westminster hall at the moment, where he is... mi beckham in westminster hall at the moment, where he is...— moment, where he is... all kinds of --eole moment, where he is... all kinds of people queueing — moment, where he is... all kinds of people queueing up _ moment, where he is... all kinds of people queueing up to _ moment, where he is... all kinds of people queueing up to pay - moment, where he is... all kinds of people queueing up to pay their- people queueing up to pay their respects to the queen, miles and miles of keys along the thames. we have seen baroness tanni grey thompson, one of wales' most decorated paralympians, who was therejust decorated paralympians, who was there just yesterday paying tribute.
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and people here in cardiff saying they intend to go to westminster, we have heard from people from wales who have already gone up in order to view the queen lying in state and we expect more people from wales to go as well. on the left of the screen, the king is heading out of the castle now. and the queen consort. a wave to the crowd as he does come out. , ., . ., , wave to the crowd as he does come out. . ., i, ., out. they are certainly pleased to see them- _ out. they are certainly pleased to see them. cheering _ out. they are certainly pleased to see them. cheering and - out. they are certainly pleased to i see them. cheering and applause we are expecting them to come and talk to members of the public for a few minutes now.- that i talk to members of the public for a few minutes now. yeah. that will be a secial few minutes now. yeah. that will be a special moment _ few minutes now. yeah. that will be a special moment for _ few minutes now. yeah. that will be a special moment for them, - a special moment for them, one they will neverforget. iie a special moment for them, one they will never forget.— will never forget. he did 'ust aesture will never forget. he did 'ust gesture that i will never forget. he did 'ust gesture that he i will never forget. he did 'ust gesture that he was i will never forget. he did just gesture that he was going i will never forget. he did just gesture that he was going to will never forget. he did just - gesture that he was going to come over but first, he is still at the bottom of the steps to the castle door, plenty of people here, as is the image all the time, phones in the air, to try to capture this moment for themselves as well as the king comes over. accompanied by dr
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grahame davies on his left. he consults him on welsh affairs. and speaking to the conductor of the band as well. they have all gone very quiet, the anticipation as they are waiting for the king to come over. having seen the king to come over. having seen the pictures of him elsewhere in cardiff. ., ~ the pictures of him elsewhere in cardiff. . ~ ., ,, ., cardiff. talking to the sergeant ma'or and cardiff. talking to the sergeant major and the _ cardiff. talking to the sergeant major and the goat _ cardiff. talking to the sergeant major and the goat has - cardiff. talking to the sergeant major and the goat has his - cardiff. talking to the sergeant major and the goat has his own} major and the goat has his own title, lance corporal, a very popular member of the regimental band. �* . . . . popular member of the regimental band. ~ ., . ., popular member of the regimental band. �* ., . ., band. and a chance to meet some --eole band. and a chance to meet some peeple there- _ band. and a chance to meet some people there. they _ band. and a chance to meet some people there. they have _ band. and a chance to meet some people there. they have waited i band. and a chance to meet some people there. they have waited a | people there. they have waited a long time. not much else to do while they were here other than take in they were here other than take in the occasion. they were here other than take in the occasion-— they were here other than take in the occasion. , . , ., the occasion. they have been treated to some glorious _ the occasion. they have been treated to some glorious welsh _ the occasion. they have been treated to some glorious welsh sunshine - the occasion. they have been treated to some glorious welsh sunshine in l to some glorious welsh sunshine in the late morning and early afternoon today. the late morning and early afternoon toda . , ., ., .,
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the late morning and early afternoon toda. , ., ._,., today. yes, traditionalwelsh weather! it _ today. yes, traditionalwelsh weather! it certainly - today. yes, traditionalwelsh weather! it certainly helps, l today. yes, traditional welsh - weather! it certainly helps, today. he is smiling broadly. everyone in here has spent a long time waiting, here has spent a long time waiting, he is meeting friendly faces and there are lots of them.— he is meeting friendly faces and there are lots of them. chatting to some peeple _ there are lots of them. chatting to some peeple who _ there are lots of them. chatting to some people who were _ there are lots of them. chatting to some people who were queueing l there are lots of them. chatting to l some people who were queueing up outside earlier, i spoke to people who could not make it to london so they decided to come to cardiff because they wanted to catch a glimpse of the new king. yes. because they wanted to catch a glimpse of the new king. yes, and there are children _ glimpse of the new king. yes, and there are children taken _ glimpse of the new king. yes, and there are children taken out - glimpse of the new king. yes, and there are children taken out of- there are children taken out of school to come and watch today. there are people who have come here because it is an historic occasion. one of the famous red bucket hats of the welsh football fans as well, handy on a day like today while the rest of us catch the sun. still quite quiet here from the crowd, i think they are trying to
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listen in, to what he is able to say as he goes along, a couple of welsh flag is being held up as welljust behind the front row. flag is being held up as well 'ust behind the front romi flag is being held up as well 'ust behind the front row. people wanting to ureet the behind the front row. people wanting to greet the game — behind the front row. people wanting to greet the game but _ behind the front row. people wanting to greet the game but also _ behind the front row. people wanting to greet the game but also to - to greet the game but also to sympathise with him and offer condolences. again, we spoke earlier to a member of the royal welch fusiliers who was queueing up and of course, the queen with their colonel in chief so people are here for very different reasons.— different reasons. absolutely, it is not a celebration _ different reasons. absolutely, it is not a celebration today _ different reasons. absolutely, it is not a celebration today but - different reasons. absolutely, it is not a celebration today but it - different reasons. absolutely, it is not a celebration today but it is i not a celebration today but it is welcoming the king, his arrival in wales as king, with these functions at the castle, but certainly, the mood is reflective and sombre, especially with the service in llandaff cathedral this morning. some cheers of, "god save the king", and as you can see, union flags but also welsh flags fluttering in the
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background. the also welsh flags fluttering in the background-— also welsh flags fluttering in the back round. . . , ., . background. the ancient, historic norman keep _ background. the ancient, historic norman keep of _ background. the ancient, historic norman keep of the _ background. the ancient, historic norman keep of the castle i background. the ancient, historic norman keep of the castle at i background. the ancient, historic norman keep of the castle at the | norman keep of the castle at the back of the picture, there. and everybody lined up on the lawn in front. it everybody lined up on the lawn in front. , , , ., , ., front. it is interesting history to cardiff castle. _ front. it is interesting history to cardiff castle, from _ front. it is interesting history to cardiff castle, from the - front. it is interesting history to cardiff castle, from the roman | cardiff castle, from the roman original site, cardiff castle, from the roman originalsite, in 505a.d, then cardiff castle, from the roman original site, in 505a.d, then the norman additions in the 12th century and then obviously, the bute family taking over in the 18th century, turning it into a victorian dream. yes, a victorian construction, the architecture is incredible, here, and the whole atmosphere within the castle and the city, cardiff is a relatively small city and the castle is so dominant, at its heart, it is a fitting location today for the king to come in, protected from the bustle of the outside but in this very traditional and iconic setting, for him to have notjust the meetings inside the building but to
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come out and meet the welsh people here as well who want to see him today. here as well who want to see him toda . �* , ., ., here as well who want to see him toda. �*, ., ., ., today. let's hear from some of the welsh people _ today. let's hear from some of the welsh people who _ today. let's hear from some of the welsh people who have _ today. let's hear from some of the welsh people who have come i today. let's hear from some of the welsh people who have come to i today. let's hear from some of the i welsh people who have come to greet him, charanpreet khaira is out among the crowd. i'm 5 o rry , i'm 5 o rry , i'm sorry, i can hear you, i am i'm sorry, i can hearyou, i am in the middle ofa i'm sorry, i can hearyou, i am in the middle of a very excited crowd, you can probably see the camera flows that it microphones flashing behind me, there is murmur of excitement after member of excitement after member of excitement as king charles iii makes his way down the line, greeting people as he goes. everyone is craning their necks to try and catch a glimpse. i have got angus with me who is a second—year student. what made you want to come onto a? i mean, apart from the fact it is a massive day, the town was buzzing,
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we have been in town since 11, came down and wandered around, had some breakfast, watching the crowds gather, it is a huge thing to be a part of, just to catch clips of him, really, i never got a chance to see the queen, sadly, so my friends and i decided we had to be here, a big part of our culture and country especially. it part of our culture and country especially-_ part of our culture and country eseciall . , ., ., especially. it is pandemonium at the moment, everyone _ especially. it is pandemonium at the moment, everyone is _ especially. it is pandemonium at the moment, everyone is running i especially. it is pandemonium at the| moment, everyone is running around to try to follow the king on his movements. what has the atmosphere been like today so far? it movements. what has the atmosphere been like today so far?— been like today so far? it has been uuite been like today so far? it has been quite intense- _ been like today so far? it has been quite intense. we _ been like today so far? it has been quite intense. we haven't - been like today so far? it has been quite intense. we haven't seen i been like today so far? it has been i quite intense. we haven't seen much of him. he arrived, went inside briefly and then came back out. and to have never seen the queen, it is nice to be able to see the game, however many days in we are now, five or six, and that close as well so it's been a brilliant day save our. ~ , ,., y so it's been a brilliant day save our. �* , , . ~' so it's been a brilliant day save our. �* , . ~' , our. absolutely, thank you very much. our. absolutely, thank you very much- the _ our. absolutely, thank you very much. the guests _ our. absolutely, thank you very much. the guests have - our. absolutely, thank you very much. the guests have been i our. absolutely, thank you very i much. the guests have been coming our. absolutely, thank you very - much. the guests have been coming to cardiff castle from all over the world for today's event. there has been 2000 people in the castle so far, and i have already met a couple
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who travelled all the way from switzerland. over here, i have richard who has travelled from america. ., �* ., richard who has travelled from america._ what l richard who has travelled from i america._ what made richard who has travelled from - america._ what made you america. from boston. what made you want to come — america. from boston. what made you want to come so _ america. from boston. what made you want to come so far? _ america. from boston. what made you want to come so far? well, _ america. from boston. what made you want to come so far? well, we - america. from boston. what made you want to come so far? well, we are i america. from boston. what made you want to come so far? well, we are in i want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead. — want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and _ want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and i _ want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and i am _ want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and i am with _ want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and i am with a - want to come so far? well, we are in marblehead, and i am with a group l marblehead, and i am with a group that came on a tour of the gardens, we were in the north of england, yorkshire and cumbria, and we have a friend who lives in cheltenham and we heard that the king was coming to cardiff and so we absolutely wanted to come to see him and see the tradition carry on. it to come to see him and see the tradition carry on.— to come to see him and see the tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timin: , tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timing. being — tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timing. being in _ tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timing, being in the _ tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timing, being in the country i tradition carry on. it is fortuitous timing, being in the country at l tradition carry on. it is fortuitous i timing, being in the country at such an historic moment. it timing, being in the country at such an historic moment.— timing, being in the country at such an historic moment. it is. what has the atmosphere — an historic moment. it 3 what has the atmosphere been like for you in cardiff today? it is the atmosphere been like for you in cardiff today?— cardiff today? it is very festive, which, cardiff today? it is very festive, which. given — cardiff today? it is very festive, which, given we _ cardiff today? it is very festive, which, given we have _ cardiff today? it is very festive, which, given we have been i which, given we have been experiencing the mourning period for the queen, which is appropriate, it has been, as i said, nice to see the tradition now carrying on with the
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king and the flag raised when he arrived here. so you know, we very much appreciated being here at this moment, sad at the beginning of the week with the queen's death occurring just as we arrived, just following her meeting with liz truss, which is amazing in its own way, the continuity. so we wish her, the prime minister and the king and the prime minister and the king and the people all the best in this transition.— transition. that is absolutely brilliant, kind _ transition. that is absolutely brilliant, kind wishes - transition. that is absolutely| brilliant, kind wishes indeed, transition. that is absolutely i brilliant, kind wishes indeed, thank you very much, richard. i think that just about sums it up, mixed emotions here, mourning the queen but welcoming the new king on his first visit to wales. thank you, as charanpreet was pointing out, people have come to cardiff from all parts of the world to greet the new king. it is
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cardiff from all parts of the world to greet the new king.— to greet the new king. it is an opportunity — to greet the new king. it is an opportunity to _ to greet the new king. it is an opportunity to see _ to greet the new king. it is an opportunity to see him - to greet the new king. it is an opportunity to see him but i to greet the new king. it is an opportunity to see him but it. to greet the new king. it is an | opportunity to see him but it is also more importantly and more obviously for welsh people, to see him today. you can hear three cheers going up, there, that is the second time that has happened since he has about. he has got a lot of time with people here, to be fed to them, they have waited quite a while as well so at least he can give them some of that back. the mood today, as i say, it is reflective, there is a hint of celebration. at least people are wanting to mark the fact that he is now king, having had such a long relationship with wales before this moment and lots of people wanting to see him and to convey their sympathy at the passing of his mother but also to show their support for him as well. i mean, it is the last stop of his tour of the nations of the uk this week and the significance of him receiving that motion of
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condolence in the senedd today, receiving it in welsh but also underlining his motto as prince of wales which is, "i serve", and he said the phrase in welsh which conveys that meaning which he said has been his guiding force as prince of wales and will continue as well, certainly, you would expect lots of these welsh relationships to carry on even if he does not have quite as much time as he used to have to be able to come to wales and meet people and keep in touch. it able to come to wales and meet people and keep in touch.- people and keep in touch. it has been a punishing _ people and keep in touch. it has been a punishing schedule i people and keep in touch. it has been a punishing schedule this i people and keep in touch. it has been a punishing schedule this week, as you mentioned, wales is the last of the devolved nations for him to visit this week but he doesn't look tired at all and he is relishing meeting these people. he looks energised. meeting these people. he looks eneriised. , �*, . , , energised. yes, he's incredibly hard-working _ energised. yes, he's incredibly hard-working anyway, - energised. yes, he's incredibly hard-working anyway, i - energised. yes, he's incredibly hard-working anyway, i think. energised. yes, he's incredibly i hard-working anyway, i think we energised. yes, he's incredibly - hard-working anyway, i think we have hard—working anyway, i think we have seen that when he has been here for wales week, which is a few days every year. it always looks like a
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punishing schedule. he manages to take in so much during those visits. he is also used to the geography of wales, he has come by helicopter today but he is often jumping about the country when he has been in wales in order to get from city centres to rural west wales where his home is as well. you know, we don't know whether he is going to keep that home or whether his visits will be anywhere near as frequent as they have been recently but we are seeing today the reaction from the public to him is incredibly warm and must surely be benefiting from the hard work he has put in as prince of wales to really deepen that relationship and that friendship that he has with people here. queen consort camilla also being very warmly received. $5 queen consort camilla also being very warmly received.— very warmly received. as she has been whenever _ very warmly received. as she has been whenever she _ very warmly received. as she has been whenever she has - very warmly received. as she has been whenever she has been i very warmly received. as she has been whenever she has been to l very warmly received. as she has i been whenever she has been to wales. they are just getting into the car now to set off. camilla has been
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have the ceremony, the red tunics, hats. to mark that occasion. but yes, the visit, the personal touch, the shaking of hands, that goes an awful long way as well towards strengthening and maintaining that relationship the king has with wales. , ., , . ~ ., relationship the king has with wales. , ., , w ., ., wales. they will now be taken out of cardiff, out — wales. they will now be taken out of cardiff, out of _ wales. they will now be taken out of cardiff, out of wales _ wales. they will now be taken out of cardiff, out of wales by _ wales. they will now be taken out of cardiff, out of wales by helicopter. l cardiff, out of wales by helicopter. they will head back to london for more engagements today. they are on north road, heading out of cardiff now, which is one of the main routes which will take them back towards the park where the helicopter is waiting for them. everything happening to time as well, because this visit had to take in so many locations in one day, meet so many people, a few gear changes as well, from the sombre service this morning
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to the band playing as they leave cardiff castle to three cheers as well. certainly, ithink cardiff castle to three cheers as well. certainly, i think the king and the palace will be happy with the reception they had in wales, but also that the king himself went quite far towards trying to neutralise that hint of animosity that there is about the prince of wales title and the role of the monarchy in a modern wales. wales is very different to when he first developed his relationship with a country in the 19605. b, developed his relationship with a country in the 1960s.— country in the 1960s. a small -rotest country in the 1960s. a small protest did — country in the 1960s. a small protest did take _ country in the 1960s. a small protest did take place - country in the 1960s. a small| protest did take place outside country in the 1960s. a small- protest did take place outside the castle grounds, a small and peaceful protest. it castle grounds, a small and peaceful rotest. . , . . , ., . , protest. it was, and it was voices that reflect _ protest. it was, and it was voices that reflect the _ protest. it was, and it was voices that reflect the way _ protest. it was, and it was voices that reflect the way a _ protest. it was, and it was voices that reflect the way a minority, l protest. it was, and it was voices l that reflect the way a minority, but a vocal minority, feel about the monarchy, specifically about the title of prince of wales as well. even though charles referenced the
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last welsh prince of wales in the senedd today, that is probably not going to neutralise those people who want to protest against him today. it is probably something that the new prince of wales, william, will have to try and get to grips with fairly quickly. we know that the prince of wales, william, spoke to the first minister, mark drakeford earlier this week. the result was an announcement that he would visit wales very soon, which is diplomatic language for, i don't know, a couple of weeks, a month or two, but certainly the speed at which the continuation of the title was announced, barely 2a hours after the king had taken the throne, showed that there won't be a long period to wait certainly for a new prince of wales but also for that work to begin on that role to take shape. we wait to see whether there will be
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any formal investiture ceremony at all, and if it will be anything on the scale of what happened in 1969. all the hints are that it would be anything like that because of the very political nature of that event. certainly comments this week we have heard that the prince of wales, the king, rather, when he was prince of wales, had said privately that he didn't want william to go through what he went through in the 1960s, when that investiture period was happening and everything that came before and after it. as they head out of wales now, the king and queen consort, i think they will be pleased with the way that the day has gone here today, and that they also managed notjust to renew those connections with the organisations, charities, people, politicians, but at the castle, in cardiff bay, and that llandaff cathedral, they were able to meet the public, who really
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did turn out for them. bill able to meet the public, who really did turn out for them.— did turn out for them. all in all here, a successful _ did turn out for them. all in all here, a successful day. - did turn out for them. all in all here, a successful day. it i did turn out for them. all in all here, a successful day. it has i did turn out for them. all in all- here, a successful day. it has been described by some in the crowd as joyous. and as you said, some gear changes. that very moving service this morning. and we've seen all kinds of people from all walks of life in wales, from the archbishop and the first minister to all kinds of people from different backgrounds who have made it to the castle to speak to the king. find who have made it to the castle to speak to the king.— who have made it to the castle to speak to the king. and wanting to come, to share _ speak to the king. and wanting to come, to share the _ speak to the king. and wanting to come, to share the moment i speak to the king. and wanting to come, to share the moment with | speak to the king. and wanting to i come, to share the moment with him, but also that they wanted to see the king and be able to show their support for him at a time when the country is mourning the loss of a queen, but is also expecting a new king and wants to encourage him to show that support today, and we have certainly seen that in cardiff today. certainly seen that in cardiff toda . . ~ certainly seen that in cardiff toda . . ,, certainly seen that in cardiff toda . . ~' , certainly seen that in cardiff toda. . , . today. thank you very much. the king and the queen — today. thank you very much. the king and the queen consort _ today. thank you very much. the king and the queen consort have _ today. thank you very much. the king and the queen consort have left i and the queen consort have left cardiff castle. they are making
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their way out of wales and back to london, so let's head over to the seneddin london, so let's head over to the senedd in cardiff bay, where lucy is waiting for us. jennifer, thank you, and so lovely to hear your reflections. i think many people would agree it has been a successful day for king charles. it is a stunningly beautiful day here in cardiff, and while there has been sadness about the loss of the queen, there is also that sense of anticipation and joy about the future and the reign of king charles. this is the beating heart of modern democracy here at the seneddin of modern democracy here at the senedd in cardiff, and i don't think it can be overstated just how symbolic it felt to hear king charles addressed those parliamentarians notjust in english but in wales today, and when he said the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart, she took immense pride in your many achievements and deeply felt with you in times of sorrow, and also said it had been a privilege for all
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these decades to be the prince of wales. those are the words that people are talking about today, the words he spoke just a few hours ago in the senedd. we leave you from here in cardiff to take you back to central london, to westminster, where we canjoin... karin giannone. there have been some special visitors to the queue, which has lightened the mood. we will get to that in a second. the people coming through now had been queueing for over 12 hours, the hard core. this really is the queue to beat all cube limit. look at that concentration just behind where we are speaking to you from. —— the queue to beat all queues. it is about 1.5 hours to get
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through here, even though it is tantalisingly close to westminster hall, you have to go through this very condensed area. in the shot you saw, you can see that the crowds across the thames are snaking all the way along and over the bridge towards here, and they go back five miles, to southwark park in the south—east of london, and the situation with the queue has not changed for more than six hours. the government put out an advisory saying that the queue is at capacity. entry is currently posed. evenif capacity. entry is currently posed. even if you go to southwark park where the queue begins, you cannot get in. it is closed. there is the prospect of a big queue for the queue forming, because people were obviously still on their way down after many hours of travel, but the government advice is, do not attempt tojoin the queue government advice is, do not attempt to join the queue until it resumes, and keep checking back on the different live sites to see if the
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queue reopens again. remember, do not come, there are too many people in the queue is at complete capacity for now. although they may not feel that way after 12 hours of queueing, these are the lucky ones, and they were particularly lucky earlier on. imagine getting in the queue when realising the bloke in front of you in a flat cap is actually david beckham, whojoined in a flat cap is actually david beckham, who joined the queue along with the general public at 2:1l5am today. hejust with the general public at 2:1l5am today. he just sort of slotted in there. he has been talking about how he has really got to know the people around him. he has waited the whole time. there was some suspicion among some in the queue that he may have skipped it as a celebrity and a vip and somehow got to the front early. that was not the case. he has confirmed that he joined the queue at 1:1l5am to confirmed that he joined the queue at1:45am to wait confirmed that he joined the queue at 1:1l5am to wait with everybody else. what a boost he has given to
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everyone. i have been taking selfies, even the police and the people taking all the rubbish, really enjoying having a celebrity in their midst. there you see him going into westminster hall and paying his respects to the queen, and that is what he said he wanted to do. we have had a chance to have a word with him, and he said he had been sharing sweets and snacks with everybody else, and that his knees were getting a bit achy when he was asked about how he felt about queueing for more than 12 hours. let's hear little of what he to say. —— a little of what he had to say. we all want to be here together, we all want _ we all want to be here together, we all want to— we all want to be here together, we all want to experience something and celebrate _ all want to experience something and celebrate the amazing life of our queen, — celebrate the amazing life of our queen, and i think something like this today— queen, and i think something like this today is meant to be shared together, — this today is meant to be shared together, so the fact that we have been _ together, so the fact that we have been here, — together, so the fact that we have been here, eating pringles, sherbet lemons. _ been here, eating pringles, sherbet lemons, sandwiches and having
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coffee, — lemons, sandwiches and having coffee, doughnuts. we were very lucky _ coffee, doughnuts. we were very lucky. we've been lucky as a nation to have _ lucky. we've been lucky as a nation to have someone that has led us the way her_ to have someone that has led us the way her majesty has led us for the amount— way her majesty has led us for the amount of— way her majesty has led us for the amount of time, with kindness, with caring. _ amount of time, with kindness, with caring. and — amount of time, with kindness, with caring, and always reassurance. i think_ caring, and always reassurance. i think that's — caring, and always reassurance. i think that's the one thing that we all fell _ think that's the one thing that we all felt safe, and we will continue that with — all felt safe, and we will continue that with the royal family, but i think_ that with the royal family, but i think her— that with the royal family, but i think her majesty was someone special, — think her majesty was someone special, and will be missed, not 'ust special, and will be missed, not just by— special, and will be missed, not just by everyone in our country but everyone _ just by everyone in our country but everyone around the world. none other than _ everyone around the world. none other than david _ everyone around the world. none other than david beckham, i everyone around the world. none other than david beckham, in i everyone around the world. mme: other than david beckham, in the queue with tens of thousands of other people who have stood, shuffled along, posed for hour after hour, and at points walked quite briskly. the queue keeps moving, although it has been stopped at its source, and people continue to come, to want to pay their respects to her
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you're watching bbc news. hello and welcome to cardiff where king charles is taking part in his first official visit to wales as monarch. welcome to viewers in the uk and around the world. king charles says the country held a 'special place' in his mother's heart as he addresses a remembrance event at the senedd. the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbennig i gymru yn ei chalon. meanwhile in central london, thousands are continuing to join queue in order to pass by the queen's coffin despite authorities closing
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the gates to southwark park for a period earlier this morning, saying it had reached capacity. i'm karin giannone, with those crowds of people waiting to pay their respects to the late queen as she lies in state in westminster hall. the queen's children including king charles will be keeping a vigil over her coffin this evening. and i'm martine croxall here in the studio. bringing you continuing coverage as the nation pays tribute to her majesty. hello and welcome to cardiff, where king charles has been making his first official visit to wales as monarch.
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they to wales as monarch. were addressing parliamentarians they were addressing parliamentarians in the glorious sunshine, meeting and mingling with the crowd and there was even a moment where king charles gave someone a fist bump in the crowd, which caused a ripple of laughter and then he went to cardiff castle where the ceremonial events have been wrapping up. in central london, incredible scenes. long lines of people continuing to wait to pay their respects to the late morning. the queue, we understand, around seven and a half kilometres long and about a 1k hour wait and there had been a pause put on entry to the queueing earlier by the government which came out in a tweet, but there has been opened up at times in the last few hours. we can also show you queen elizabeth's lying in state. we know it will last another three days before her state funeral which will take place on monday.
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in the last half hour, (king charles and queen consort camilla have spent time meeting many of the thousands of well—wishers who had waited hours to greet him, . they were hugely excited to meet the new king and there was a sense of sadness about the loss of the queen, who has been here 300 times in her reign and visited every corner of wales and many people had lovely stories to share about times they had met with her, but indeed, a sense of pride that king charles, once the prince of wales, spoke today in welsh and in english in the senedd. after 64 years as prince, a first foray to wales as king. the significance signalled by the now familiar salute. the visit began with a service of prayer and reflection on the life of elizabeth ii. a time for solemnity
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and celebration, remembering how she engaged everyone she met. to the person on the street, with an attentiveness that made you feel you were valued, you were understood, borne perhaps of her experience as a mother, grandmother and great—grandmother, as much as queen. this kind of skill is learned over the decades. outside, they had waited patiently for a glimpse of the man who is now the monarch and inherits goodwill at a time of grief. we're just really pleased that he's taken the time, because it's not the best time for him after losing a parent, for anybody, but to come to wales, and to show our support is, i think, really important. we've come out, not only to experience history, but it's an experience as a family with the little ones and, you know, just be a part of it.
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well, personally, i don't believe that we need a prince of wales, but i'm more than happy to welcome the royal family here. archive: university college aberystwyth, where, - to the relief of the nation, - prince charles was given a warm and very friendly welcome. the prince who, onjuly 1st, becomes prince of wales, l is taking a nine—week welsh language and history course _ at the university. the welcome hasn't always been so warm. security concerns surrounded charles' time in wales in the 19605. he came to aberystwyth for a crash course in welsh a5 a way of trying to win over a nation sceptical of having an english prince of wales. it didn't stop the protests in the lead—up to his investiture. fanfare for years, these images defined his relationship with wales. but tensions gradually eased, that relationship relaxed.
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royal patronage was used as a way to find a place in welsh life. his love of the arts and welsh culture. i think his commitment to wales has always been there. i wouldn't doubt it for one minute. but how committed is wales to maintaining the monarchy? opinion polls suggest support here hovers just above 50%. oh, i think they bring a lot of revenue, obviously, to this country. to wales ? yes, yes, to everywhere, yeah. people love the monarchy, i think. i don't know, itjust seems out of touch with where we are as a country now. i think now the queen's gone, i think a lot of people are holding on to the romance of the queen but, yeah, i personally... not part of the future for wales? no. this afternoon, the focus shifted to the senedd — a building opened by the queen, an institution which
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grew with her support. its members offered their condolences. today, there is a sense of transition in wales. this morning, we came together in a service of reflection at llandaff cathedral to look back over a reign unrivalled in its length and its reach. for many, this visit marks a new chapter, a time when the royal relationship with wales is reframed and renewed. through all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbenig i gymru yn ei chalon. hywel griffith, bbc news. we are going to reflect on that
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moment now that we had earlier in the senedd where we saw king charles addressing the parliamentarians in welsh, and the sense in the room of celebration that the new king does speak the language, because of course this is a bilingual country and welsh is one of the official languages here. with me now is the welsh history expert, dr sam blaxland. i wonder what you made of the new king's address, not only the fact he was speaking the language but some of the references he made in the speech as well. the of the references he made in the speech as well.— of the references he made in the speech as well. the language itself is very significant. _ speech as well. the language itself is very significant. he _ speech as well. the language itself is very significant. he speaks i speech as well. the language itself is very significant. he speaks a i speech as well. the language itself is very significant. he speaks a bit| is very significant. he speaks a bit of welsh, 25% of the population here also speak welsh fluently, so the symbolism is the crucial thing and he recognises that that's there are different languages and it harks back to his investiture where he spoke welsh and spoke some welsh at university in aberystwyth so it's remarkable and the fact he speaks it quite well as well, i was born and
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brought up in wales and i don't speakfluently but brought up in wales and i don't speak fluently but i can tell he is speaking it well and that is key. in terms of the references, the fact he is making a nod towards the medieval princess, this is a long time ago, basically ancient history, but he's obviously worked out that there are critics there who still associate the title of prince of wales with the title of prince of wales with the original welsh princes and the fall of the norman conquest or after when england basically colonised wales. a lot has happened since then and there has been a huge raft of history where wales has been integrated with the uk, with england, and played a key role in big moments of the british empire and over the world and things like that, but charles oxley recognises that, but charles oxley recognises that there are people who level those criticisms and the fact that he did that is also symbolic, like speaking welsh.— he did that is also symbolic, like speaking welsh. take us back to 1969, ou speaking welsh. take us back to 1969, you mention _ speaking welsh. take us back to 1969, you mention it _ speaking welsh. take us back to 1969, you mention it then, i speaking welsh. take us back to 1969, you mention it then, and i speaking welsh. take us back to i 1969, you mention it then, and why the investiture was so controversial? it the investiture was so
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controversial?- the investiture was so controversial? . , controversial? it was actually charles was _ controversial? it was actually charles was very _ controversial? it was actually charles was very young i controversial? it was actually charles was very young when i controversial? it was actually i charles was very young when he became prince of wales at the empire games, commonwealth games in cardiff and then it happened when he became and then it happened when he became an adult into the 19605 and in the 19605 a lot of big changes happen in british society and we could see liberal and social progress but also you get the rise of welsh political nationalism and the first plaid cymru mp, so it's a way that the british state recognises there are changes and a rise in welsh identity but also trying to integrate the monarchy into welsh culture and make it part of the broader british sense. there will honestly be difficulties surrounding that, especially when you use the title prince of wales and it has the connotations of that medieval period but there were a small, vocal minority, very strong, ardent nationalists who launched essentially a bombing campaign. there was a failed attempt to plant bombs in parts of wales including in khan van where he was invested in
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1968 -- khan van where he was invested in 1968 —— caernarfon. so that is where the drama comes from we have to be realistic about that. and it was a vocal minority in 1968. the investiture vocal minority in 1968. the investitu re was vocal minority in 1968. the investiture was broadly seen as a success and went well and i think you see that essentially reflected on what we had today. there has been a legitimate reason why people in wales why people have an issue with the british monarchy and they see it as a very english figure and this is as a very english figure and this is a developing welsh democracy and that's fine, and that's the minority feeling in wales and was the minority feeling here and that's probably represented what it was like and they should have allowed to protest, but the warm welcome the king got is probably reflective of what people in wales think. find king got is probably reflective of what people in wales think. and in a sensitive way _ what people in wales think. and in a sensitive way in _ what people in wales think. and in a sensitive way in which _ what people in wales think. and in a sensitive way in which king - what people in wales think. and in a sensitive way in which king charles i sensitive way in which king charles has widely acknowledged handled all of the way on the speech in the senedd and we would have shared this
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with prince william and what role do you see for the new prince of wales and how important is it that he carves out a new place for people here in wales. it carves out a new place for people here in wales.— here in wales. it is key about the wa the here in wales. it is key about the way the king _ here in wales. it is key about the way the king has _ here in wales. it is key about the way the king has handled - here in wales. it is key about the way the king has handled things| way the king has handled things today and his mother has just died and he is basically conducting what looks like a general election campaign, flying around the country, going to the four corners of the uk and it must be quite gruelling and the fact he's getting out the car and shaking hands with people is quite admirable and it is a change, a shift of tone. he quite admirable and it is a change, a shift of tone.— quite admirable and it is a change, a shift of tone. he took time in the senedd to speak _ a shift of tone. he took time in the senedd to speak to _ a shift of tone. he took time in the senedd to speak to every - a shift of tone. he took time in the senedd to speak to every one i a shift of tone. he took time in the senedd to speak to every one of i a shift of tone. he took time in the i senedd to speak to every one of the young parliamentarians. you senedd to speak to every one of the young parliamentarians.— senedd to speak to every one of the young parliamentarians. you get the sense he likes _ young parliamentarians. you get the sense he likes working _ young parliamentarians. you get the sense he likes working a _ young parliamentarians. you get the sense he likes working a crowd i young parliamentarians. you get the sense he likes working a crowd and i sense he likes working a crowd and has the sense of a broad people person and that is a script —— shift from the queen. maybe he was more reserved in public, but william is another one as well, from his father, he is good at relating, quite good at demoting and he has his young family and they are trying to be modern people, so what i
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imagine will happen in his role of prince of wales on the other roles he is he will try to be a modern monarchy but it's a fine line with the monarchy that they are treading. on one hand they want to be they want to be sympathetic to peoples feelings and to be open and want to emo ot but at the end of the day the monarchy only survives by being different and being the difference of the pageantry, of the glamour, the spectacle and they need to keep an element of that otherwise becomes another set of politicians. does that not then _ another set of politicians. does that not then become - another set of politicians. does that not then become a - another set of politicians. does that not then become a challenge whether considering there should be another investiture? it’s a whether considering there should be another investiture?— another investiture? it's a huge challenie another investiture? it's a huge challenge and _ another investiture? it's a huge challenge and the _ another investiture? it's a huge challenge and the kind - another investiture? it's a huge challenge and the kind of i challenge and the kind of investiture that prince charles had khan ah van castle was full of symbolism and almost feudal —— khan ah van castle. william's investiture will not be like that. it will be a bureaucratic and formal process and might happen here and if we look at the building
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here, richard rogers building, very early 20th century about light being allowed in and the debating chamber has natural sunlight and it is about openness and modernity, and if it happens here, there will be a huge amount of symbolism with william being made prince of wales, if it is here, which i suspect it might be. how does everything we have seen today play into the future of wales and how the welsh people see themselves?— and how the welsh people see themselves? . , , themselves? most welsh people see themselves? most welsh people see themselves as _ themselves? most welsh people see themselves as british _ themselves? most welsh people see themselves as british and _ themselves? most welsh people see themselves as british and welsh. i themselves as british and welsh. there is quite a strong and very coherent and understandable sense of dual identity, but things are changing. i spoke about the 19605 on the rise of political nationalism. it's been a slow motion process but has ultimately ended with devolution and wales having a parliament, with our own set of politicians so in the pandemic you had a welsh health minister and a welsh first minister making big calls on public policy. there was a sense of difference that you could be welsh and if you are my age and went to primary school and secondary school in wales you learnt a bit of welsh, and another small
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symbol of the fact that we are different, and the monarchy represents continuity and a very strong sense of britishness, but everything, the tide is slowly significantly moving in a different direction and people in wales are starting to feel more welsh are not british and there will be a challenge for the monarchy in that sense. . , . challenge for the monarchy in that sense, ., , ., . ., challenge for the monarchy in that sense. . . . , . sense. has that changed since brexit? the proportion of people who voted to leave the european union is proportionately higher in wales than england. there are parts of wales completely down at heel, poor, underinvested in, people were fed up of that i think, they wanted someone to change it. a streak of real social conservatism but they are rhymed with brexit throughout wales. labour has been the biggest political party here for 100 years. my political party here for 100 years. my grandparents for example where labour supporters but very socially conservative and supported the
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monarchy. a lot of that funnels into brexit because this is a labour voting hotline, it doesn't mean all the things that might dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country, stagnating economies, lack of opportunities, work. bill economies, lack of opportunities, work. �* . , economies, lack of opportunities, work. �* . ., work. all that plays into it. he 'ust told work. all that plays into it. he just told me — work. all that plays into it. he just told me before _ work. all that plays into it. he just told me before we - work. all that plays into it. he just told me before we came i work. all that plays into it. he i just told me before we came on air that only 25% of welsh people actually voted for devolution. the people here feel devolution has worked for them and is working? initially in 1997 in the referendum 50% of the population turned out to vote, it was much tighter than brexit, made brexit look like him big clear winner. tiny margin of success for the yes campaign this setup a senedd. people showing they do not love necessarily the first night but accept that this year. there was another referendum that
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followed, proving their worth as a historian, i think it was 2011, about extending powers, more powers for lawmaking. people voted for that by a big for lawmaking. people voted for that bya big margin, a sense it for lawmaking. people voted for that by a big margin, a sense it is here to stay. if you are going to have a parliament, you might as well let it have more clout. people see it is here to stay they do not mind it but big calls, defence, foreign affairs, said at westminster. on the whole i think people accept that is how the system works. think people accept that is how the system works— think people accept that is how the system works-— think people accept that is how the system works. thank you, sam, for 'oinin: system works. thank you, sam, for joining us- — system works. thank you, sam, for joining us- very _ system works. thank you, sam, for joining us. very interesting. - system works. thank you, sam, for joining us. very interesting. you . joining us. very interesting. you can hear the sound, people packing up, taking down all of the equipment that was put in place to cater for today, huge amount of security here as well, a beautiful afternoon as king charles finishes his visit with the queen consort to cardiff castle.
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back to the studio. pair and army training centre, pictures. 30 miles west centre, live pictures. 30 miles west of london, we will go back to those in a moment. prince william and catherine visiting pirbright ahead of the funeral on monday to meet commonwealth troops who are going to be part of the service on monday. taking part in their ceremonial duties, soldiers from canada, australia, new zealand have gathered at pirbright to rehearse the roles and the ceremony and, as you can see, william and kate meeting them to find out what they are going to be doing and thanking them for
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playing the part in marking the queen never mind that at the state funeral, the coming together of not just the nations of the united kingdom but also the members of the commonwealth as well. of course, it is a huge undertaking, it will have been planned meticulously for many, many years. but nothing being left to chance, with everyone having the next few days to make sure that they are all properly rehearse, everyone knows what their role as. it is such an enormous undertaking, a senior metropolitan police officer said the queen double general, the largest single policing event the force will ever have undertaken. the importance of getting it absolutely right is essential to everybody, not least of soldiers from the commonwealth who we see meeting the prince and princess of wales in surrey. here in london, tens of thousands of people
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are queueing to see the queen's lying in state. at the moment it's estimated to be about 1k hours long. so many want to attend that at one stage today, mourners were stopped from joining the queue. the government said the queue's start point — southwark park — had reached capacity, so the gates were closed, but then — amid some confusion — they were reopened. meanwhile it's been confirmed that — at the request of king charles — prince harry can wear military uniform when he takes part in a vigil beside the coffin tomorrow — the first time he's been able to do so since stepping back as a working royal. our correspondent, paul adams, reports. and still they come, hour by hour, minute by minute, in parks and streets, past offices and monuments, a steady, shuffling procession now five miles long. people driven by love, duty, the chance to say they were there. at southwark park, where the queue begins, a pause this morning. there were, it seems,
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simply too many people. yeah, she kept everything moving and she never gave up, so why should we? by now, wait times had reached 1a hours. for a while, the government urged people not to tryjoining the line. we just arrived i think a couple of minutes after they closed the gates, yeah. that's life. a queue to get into the queue. absolutely. _ yes, it seems that way. we've only reallyjust joined. yeah — we're not entirely sure where we're at, what will happen. we haven't been told any. information at the moment, but we'lljust wait. | we're still smiling. yeah. in westminster hall, the vigil continues. after the long walk, an air of anticipation. members of the public have had many hours to think about these few short moments. the tributes come in many forms. after the camaraderie of the wait,
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this is private, personal. this evening, for 15 minutes, king charles and his three siblings will stand watch over their mother's coffin. all will be in military uniform. the king is focussed, his spokesman said, on leading the family, the nation, the realms and the commonwealth in mourning for queen elizabeth. tomorrow, the queen's eight grandchildren will take their turn. outside the capital, more preparations for monday's state funeral. 4000 military personnel will be on parade, including these members of the royal air force practising at raf haltern in buckinghamshire. she's been the integral part of the armed forces, the glue between the tri—services, and for me just to pay my one small little bit of respect
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by doing this duty, it's... i can't measure how prideful i feel about that and how humbled to have the opportunity to do that. back in london, the police say the funeral will be the largest event they've ever dealt with. in three days, this country will witness something most of us have never seen, perhaps will never see again in quite the same way — a vast, complex and highly—charged turning of a national page. paul adams, bbc news. let's go to westminster now and karin giannone is there for us. the queue keeps on growing. but as ou the queue keeps on growing. but as you reported. _ the queue keeps on growing. but as you reported. the — the queue keeps on growing. but as you reported, the beginning - the queue keeps on growing. but as you reported, the beginning of- the queue keeps on growing. pm —3 you reported, the beginning of the queueis you reported, the beginning of the queue is closed for the moment, has been for more than six hours now, the government issuing that advice the government issuing that advice the capacity has been reached, all the capacity has been reached, all the way back to southwark park, east along the banks of the river thames, five miles, eight kilometres, that
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is where the entrance to the queue at the southwark park has been shut for now. all the live youtube feed says when you check it, do not attempt to join the queue until it resumes, check back for further updates. the estimated wait time has gone, the maximum had been reached at 14 gone, the maximum had been reached at 1a hours, nearly five miles long. now that is not showing it is just simply says don't come along if you haven'tjoined the queue already and keep checking for updates. that will be a massive disappointment i'm sure to many people who had just about reached the start of the queue to join the long five mile queue along the south bank of the river thames over lambeth bridge and back towards westminster. what you are looking at now is very close to where we are, the snake, the imaginary part of the queue as you come to the end of your long journey walking through the night along the river thames, you get to this point of intensely condensed crowd back and forth,
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shuttling in this airport security style formation until you get to the palace of westminster itself. people are telling me it takes about an hour and a half to get through this bit alone. westminster is so tantalisingly close once you get this point, it does feel your heart with hope, people are saying, they wait is nearly over. —— fill your heart. but the event of the queue is deceptive there. these people are of course the lucky ones who have made it into the queue. as they comprised here we are standing, the 11 hour point, we wondered what they are clapping and cheering about, they are monitoring their weight closely. some have had a real treat, a bloke in a flat cap in front of you for some, you realise it is none other than former england captain david beckham. lots of suspicion that being a celebrity, a vip, david beckham may have jumped the queue in
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some form, not so. he himself confirmed hejoined the some form, not so. he himself confirmed he joined the queue at 1:a5am and has been moving along slowly for more than 12 hours with everybody else. it is what we have envisioned. we all want to be here together, we all want to experience something and celebrate the amazing life of our queen, and i think something like this today is meant to be shared together, so the fact that we have been here, eating pringles, sherbet lemons, sandwiches and having coffee, doughnuts. we were very lucky. everything including the doughnuts keeping people going including david beckham, finding out who you are standing next in the queue for 12 hours, quite a memorable moment. those are the lucky ones in the queue already, as it stands, no more
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entrance to the queue for now. he went on through westminster hall with everybody else, this is the moment he entered so many others are queueing for, taking their chance to stand there passing the queen's coffin and paying their respects. it is continuing to inspire and draw so many people from all of the country, people have waited, awake for more than 24—hour is, all these people, in on their feet for hours. a small boy with a step counter said he had done 28,000 steps waiting through the night, not complaining, nobody is moaning about the length of time. david beckham just there among the crowds. quite a phenomenon. i'm joined now by the historian and writer robert lacey. you are looking at the people coming pastors here, they are looking tired but still optimistic, no they are nearing the end of the long wait.
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what you make of the enthusiasm to go through this experience? it is. go through this experience? it is, as ou go through this experience? it is, as you have _ go through this experience? it is, as you have been _ go through this experience? it is, as you have been saying, - go through this experience? it is, as you have been saying, so - go through this experience? it 3 as you have been saying, so moving to be here and we are by a point people are having to give up their drinks, the drinks they haven't opened are going to charity, the drinks they have have to go to waste. historically, ican�*t drinks they have have to go to waste. historically, i can't help thinking, this is quite a modern ritual, actually. it was invented in 1910 by george v, the queen's own grandfather that she used to call granpa england. he got the idea from the victorian prime minister palmerston. lying in state and people queueing past use to be for great political military figures, the duke of wellington, prime ministers. george v, who invented the house of windsor in 1917, got rid of the german name, changed it to windsor, thought of how wonderful it would be for ordinary people to
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be able to get closer to the monarch at a moving moment like this. and so for me that link over history, the queen's own grandfather started this, wouldn't he be pleased, wouldn't she be please? in those days, only one or two days, now it is four days? even that is not enough. is four days? even that is not enouah. ~' ., enough. looks like there will have to be a line _ enough. looks like there will have to be a line drawn _ enough. looks like there will have to be a line drawn at _ enough. looks like there will have to be a line drawn at a _ enough. looks like there will have to be a line drawn at a certain - to be a line drawn at a certain point, the queue will have to enter allow all the people who have joined the queue to get in before the official lying in state and is 6:30am monday morning. when this happened in 1952, midwinter, george vi lay in state, something like 400,000 people turned out, called the great queue. how does this compare, the enthusiasm to do this sort of thing? you said it was relatively modern. i sort of thing? you said it was relatively modern.— sort of thing? you said it was relatively modern. i am old enough to remember— relatively modern. i am old enough to remember that, _ relatively modern. i am old enough to remember that, seven _ relatively modern. i am old enough to remember that, seven or - relatively modern. i am old enough to remember that, seven or eight, |
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to remember that, seven or eight, living in bristol, flickering black—and—white television i experienced it through, particularly the coronation. it is across the generations. in those days, they did not have the ceremony which we have already seen in scotland and are going to see here tonight. the viuil. the going to see here tonight. the vigil. the virtue _ going to see here tonight. the vigil. the virtue of the princess is denied, the queen's children. tomorrow night, it is going to be the grandchildren. individual, that also started in 1910 when it so happened, sorry, it started in 1936 when george v died and he actually had four sons, one for each corner of the coffin, very neat. one was edward viii who abdicated, then his brother who became george vi, the father of the queen. then two
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others, duke of gloucester and duke of kent, titles which carry on today for the royal family. that was for the first time ever. so unexpected it was not photographed. there was a painting made of it. after the event, which hangs now i think in the royal academy. but very moving. what is interesting from that is a small thing, it seems that that vigil, there were no guardsmen, the princess actually replaced the guardsmen. as we have seen it in scotland, theyjoined the guardsmen, i do not know which will happen tonight. i do not know which will happen toniaht. ,. ,, ., ., tonight. the discussion as to whether members _ tonight. the discussion as to whether members of- tonight. the discussion as to whether members of the - tonight. the discussion as to i whether members of the royal tonight. the discussion as to - whether members of the royal family will wear a military uniform, how is that decided, what is the protocol? protocol slightly disputed that prince harry and prince andrew as nonworking members of the royal family should turn up in the civvies with just medals. that is what we
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saw in scotland with prince andrew was the is in fact absolutely the proper thing to do. that was the is in fact absolutely the proper thing to do.— was the is in fact absolutely the proper thing to do. that was the procession _ proper thing to do. that was the procession as — proper thing to do. that was the procession as well _ proper thing to do. that was the procession as well from - proper thing to do. that was the - procession as well from buckingham palace, also in morning suits with medals. , ., ., ., ., medals. yes, we have now heard that will be change — medals. yes, we have now heard that will be change for _ medals. yes, we have now heard that will be change for the _ medals. yes, we have now heard that will be change for the vigil. _ medals. yes, we have now heard that will be change for the vigil. what - will be change for the vigil. what they were doing, like any other ex servicemen, they have mass uniforms that they are allowed to wear as retired veterans at a party or at a dinner. but at funerals, servicemen are expected to wear their ordinary survey suits just like anyone else. or servicewomen who stop but with the medals. that has been changed for tonight to create i think a feeling of unity and uniformity, a joint tribute, the spirit of it. andrew will be in military uniform, as will harry?— as will harry? king charles, princess — as will harry? king charles, princess anne, _
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as will harry? king charles, princess anne, prince - as will harry? king charles, i princess anne, prince edward, as will harry? king charles, - princess anne, prince edward, they is working royals have ceremonial functions, colonels of this, commanders of that. honorary titles. prince harry was so desolate to have lost those when he left the royal family any working sense, that is the slight inconsistency, that the ones who actually fought in the world didn't wear the uniforms and the more ceremonial members did. just looking ahead, robert, to monday at the funeral, it is being talked of as something that has never been seen before, the number of people, the number of vips. this huge event, it is going to dominate the day, the capital, completely, isn't it? it the day, the capital, completely, isn't it? , . .. the day, the capital, completely, isn't it? , ., ~ isn't it? it is and i think the fact that even _ isn't it? it is and i think the fact that even vladimir— isn't it? it is and i think the fact that even vladimir putin - isn't it? it is and | think the fact - that even vladimir putin apparently is disappointed he didn't get an invitation makes it all the better. it is the whole world coming together. we have been reminded,
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very movingly, in these last days that the queen of course, people talk about the queen of england, i am going to get e—mails from scotland protesting. and wales. the reason everything started in scotland is because she is queen of scotland, loved being queen of scotland, loved being queen of scotland, noticeably prince charles, the new king, he was in scotland as well for the same reason, he loves it there and we have been reminded of how, and also some ways, that great philosopher should really talk about, the way which we are and can be at least a united kingdom, as we saw in northern ireland. but then there is the commonwealth. yesterday, on apparently of days when he has not been visibly working, has been in touch with the 14 countries like australia, canada, new zealand, king charles, who is
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now the new head of state there. your question to answer it, what we will see on monday is the way in which she is notjust queen of britain or the commonwealth but there is a sense in which she is queen of the world. she never had power and her modesty in not exercising power was so important, but she did have influence and prestige. i think we can all bask in thatjust a little bit in the middle of the morning. it thatjust a little bit in the middle of the morning.— of the morning. it will be quite a da , of the morning. it will be quite a day. robert _ of the morning. it will be quite a day, robert lacey, _ of the morning. it will be quite a day, robert lacey, thank- of the morning. it will be quite a day, robert lacey, thank you, . of the morning. it will be quite a - day, robert lacey, thank you, royal historian. the number of people going into westminster hall, the hours they are waiting and walking through the night without sleep, without complaint, what is it like for those who emerge? our correspondentjonathan blake is at carriage gates where those mourners emerge who have been able to pay their respects to queen elizabeth as she lies in state. they are stepping out into the warm
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sunshine in westminster this afternoon. after so many hours queueing and finally filing past the queen's coffin in westminster hall behind me, observing people coming out, as we have saying since the lying in the state began, people of all ages quite upset, others taking all ages quite upset, others taking a moment to themselves, some looking quite tired after an emotionally and physically draining day. let's have a quick word with a couple of people who made the journey and have a quick word with a couple of people who made thejourney and have not won come out from westminster hall, paul and sharon, tell us about why you have chosen to come to london today. you have chosen to come to london toda . ., , ., , ., you have chosen to come to london toda. ., , ,., today. for us it was a sense of du . today. for us it was a sense of duty- we _ today. for us it was a sense of duty- we both _ today. for us it was a sense of duty. we both served - today. for us it was a sense of duty. we both served in - today. for us it was a sense of duty. we both served in the i today. for us it was a sense of- duty. we both served in the army, my wife was _ duty. we both served in the army, my wife was a _ duty. we both served in the army, my wife was a police officer, we took that oath — wife was a police officer, we took that oath at a young age and we wanted — that oath at a young age and we wanted to— that oath at a young age and we wanted to come here today and just represent _ wanted to come here today and just represent that. to wanted to come here today and 'ust represent theefi wanted to come here today and 'ust represent that. to serve and protect the queen was _ represent that. to serve and protect the queen was the _
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represent that. to serve and protect the queen was the oath _ represent that. to serve and protect the queen was the oath we - represent that. to serve and protect the queen was the oath we took, i the queen was the oath we took, today that gives us the little bit of closure. today that gives us the little bit of closure-— today that gives us the little bit of closure. ., ., ,, ., of closure. having taken that oath ourself of closure. having taken that oath yourself in — of closure. having taken that oath yourself in the _ of closure. having taken that oath yourself in the army _ of closure. having taken that oath yourself in the army and - of closure. having taken that oath yourself in the army and then - of closure. having taken that oath yourself in the army and then the | yourself in the army and then the police so many years ago, what was in your mind as you arrived alongside the queen's coffin in westminster hall?— alongside the queen's coffin in westminster hall? ., , ., , , westminster hall? there was a sense for me of gratitude _ westminster hall? there was a sense for me of gratitude being _ westminster hall? there was a sense for me of gratitude being there, - westminster hall? there was a sense for me of gratitude being there, to i for me of gratitude being there, to do it _ for me of gratitude being there, to do it also— for me of gratitude being there, to do it. also for me it was remembering some of the lads who could _ remembering some of the lads who could not— remembering some of the lads who could not be here today to do it. to sort of _ could not be here today to do it. to sort of say — could not be here today to do it. to sort of say goodbye on their behalf. it isiust_ sort of say goodbye on their behalf. it isiust so— sort of say goodbye on their behalf. it isjust so moving. the sort of say goodbye on their behalf. it isjust so moving.— it is 'ust so moving. the dedication that it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen _ it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen has _ it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen has given _ it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen has given to - it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen has given to us, i it isjust so moving. the dedication that the queen has given to us, it. that the queen has given to us, it was important for us to give something back. she served a life for us and so to queue up, yes, we have had a long day but it was the very least we could do. find have had a long day but it was the very least we could do.— have had a long day but it was the very least we could do. and how was the cue? people _ very least we could do. and how was the cue? people have _ very least we could do. and how was the cue? people have waited - very least we could do. and how was the cue? people have waited for- very least we could do. and how was the cue? people have waited for so i the cue? people have waited for so many hours, was it well—organised from your experience? it many hours, was it well-organised from your experience?— from your experience? it was so well-organised _ from your experience? it was so well-organised it _ from your experience? it was so well-organised it is _
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from your experience? it was so well-organised it is untrue, i from your experience? it was so | well-organised it is untrue, runs well—organised it is untrue, runs like a _ well—organised it is untrue, runs like a slick— well—organised it is untrue, runs like a slick machine. how many times i set myself— like a slick machine. how many times i set myself did the queen stand and queue _ i set myself did the queen stand and queue for— i set myself did the queen stand and queue for us to come out on parade and see _ queue for us to come out on parade and see us— queue for us to come out on parade and see us past? you know, talking about— and see us past? you know, talking about ten— and see us past? you know, talking about ten hours now, it is absolutely nothing. i about ten hours now, it is absolutely nothing. i think a big thank ou absolutely nothing. i think a big thank you for— absolutely nothing. i think a big thank you for all _ absolutely nothing. i think a big thank you for all the _ absolutely nothing. i think a big thank you for all the people i thank you for all the people involved in that, they have done an incredible job.— incredible 'ob. sounds like this the will incredible job. sounds like this they will stay _ incredible job. sounds like this they will stay with _ incredible job. sounds like this they will stay with you. - incredible job. sounds like this they will stay with you. most i they will stay with you. most definitely- — they will stay with you. most definitely. poignant, - they will stay with you. most| definitely. poignant, moving, emotional, it isjust definitely. poignant, moving, emotional, it is just all the emotions. put into one. we have met some wonderful people. it emotions. put into one. we have met some wonderful people.— some wonderful people. it has brourht some wonderful people. it has brought the — some wonderful people. it has brought the nation _ some wonderful people. it has brought the nation together. l some wonderful people. it has brought the nation together. i | some wonderful people. it has i brought the nation together. i have never_ brought the nation together. i have never witnessed this in my life, never~ — never witnessed this in my life, never. just— never witnessed this in my life, never. just the friendliness of people. — never. just the friendliness of people, the support, everybody saying _ people, the support, everybody saying thank you to everybody, people — saying thank you to everybody, people supporting you. it isjust unbelievable, a fantastic feeling here today and i am proud to be here
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today— here today and i am proud to be here today and _ here today and i am proud to be here today and to — here today and i am proud to be here today and to be a member of the parachute — today and to be a member of the parachute regiment, representing veterans — parachute regiment, representing veterans. , , ., ., ,, parachute regiment, representing veterans. , , ., ., veterans. yes, brilliant. thank you both very much — veterans. yes, brilliant. thank you both very much for _ veterans. yes, brilliant. thank you both very much for sharing - veterans. yes, brilliant. thank you both very much for sharing your i both very much for sharing your experiences with us here on bbc news, we will let you get home at the end of a very long day, paul and sharon murphy, two of the many thousands of people who have queued up thousands of people who have queued up for hours and past the coffin in westminster hall. you can see them filing out the carriage gates, the second day of lying in state which will continue over the weekend and into monday morning. thank you, jonathan blake, on the other side of the palace of westminster from where i am. people going on behind me and all around here the queue is getting near its destination, people so pleased to see westminster. that shot shows people on the side of the river and all the way along the far
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side of the river. that is the south bank of the river thames in the distance there, and from that point they go five miles, eight kilometres to the east, to celtic park. it is a very, very long wait, people coming past here now, 11 to 12 hours they have been in that queue. a wake for many more hours butjoining in the early hours, three or 4am. this rather challenging bit of the compact crowd management is what awaits them when they get here, called the snake. provides a deceptively close view of westminster but you still have to go back and forth so many times across what is known as victorian tower gardens, where we are. this bit takes an hourand gardens, where we are. this bit takes an hour and a half, people are reporting. they are getting in there, continuing to file through, but the advice and is ten o'clock
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local time has not changed from the government, the queue saying it is currently at capacity, entry to the queue at celtic park is paused. you cannotjoin the queue now, you cannotjoin the queue now, you cannot even get into the queue to wait for 12—13 hours. you are simply not allowed tojoin. wait for 12—13 hours. you are simply not allowed to join. the prospect of a whole new queue starting to queue for the queue if people do continue, whether that is able to be managed is yet to be seen. hopefully the government's advice, do not attempt tojoin the queue government's advice, do not attempt to join the queue until the whole thing reopens and you can start moving through again. at some point, people are going to be limited, over the weekend, perhaps, because the cut—off time, they were lying in state, officially ends at 6:30am monday morning, there will be a time when the line is drawn, the queue is closed permanently. people really feel, even though they have been on their feet for so many hours, even
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david beckham for 12 hours, they feel fortunate to have made it in at all. they really do not mind that their whole body is aching, they are extremely tired but they are making it in to pay their tributes to the queen. karin giannone in westminster, thank you. let's take you to surrey at the army training centre at pirbright, have we pictures? they have disappeared, iam have we pictures? they have disappeared, i am disappointed. we might get them back. the prince and princess of wales, william and catherine, have gone to pirbright today, meeting troops from across the commonwealth who are going to be involved in delivering what has been described as ceremonial support on monday for the funeral of the queen. these are troops who have come from australia, canada and new zealand to take part in the historic state funeral on monday. rehearsals for
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the service were taking place earlier in the day but they did continue for a little while after the prince and princess of wales arrived. this is catherine's second visit to this particular centre in less than a year. she was their on armed forces day, the last time. pirbright is rather used to this role, it can house around 750 service personnel across the fence, the commonwealth realm defence forces, and also used in the duke of edinburgh's funeral and her majesty'splatinum jubilee. edinburgh's funeral and her majesty'splatinumjubilee. a holding area, really, just outside london, about 30 hours outside in surrey. troops can train, eat and sleep before they move into the capital to deliver that support. of course, it gives the royal family an opportunity to thank all of those senior representatives, defence staff and service personnel from
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each of those nations taking part for their support and their preparations to make sure that the state funeral is flawless, absolutely seamless. the preparations of course have gone on, been planned for years, this is the last time that everyone can rehearse to make sure it is absolutely perfect. well talk about issues surrounding the funeral on monday. china says it has not decided whether to send representatives to queen elizabeth's funeral on monday after a delegation including the country's vice president was banned, imposed by commonwealth speaker sarah lindsay hoyle, chinese sanctions against british mps, iain duncan smith, you trained at
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pirbright. great opportunity for the prince and princess of wales to thank the commonwealth soldiers. i thank the commonwealth soldiers. i did, listening to your report took me right back. when i went into the scots guards, there was a guards' depot there, we were screamed and shouted out endlessly, marched up and down, did assault courses, all those memories come flooding back. i'm sure that is not happening to the commonwealth soldiers at the moment. real centre of training for the british army. ikla moment. real centre of training for the british army.— the british army. no raised voices that we can _ the british army. no raised voices that we can hear. _ the british army. no raised voices that we can hear. why _ the british army. no raised voices that we can hear. why is - the british army. no raised voices that we can hear. why is it - the british army. no raised voices that we can hear. why is it that i the british army. no raised voices. that we can hear. why is it that you amongst other british mps are under the sanctions by the chinese state. this goes back to the chinese government's in position on the uyghur muslims which we now believe to a genocide where they separated them out into what we would call slave labour camps and goods too
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often bought in the west, the women have been forced into sterilisation, and the children have been forced to go to re—education camps, so all of that, if you put it on the back of the problems that they had with the persecution of christians in china and the trashing of the sino british agreement and the arresting in hong kong of peaceful democracy campaigners and also media, the invasion of the south china sea is on the threats to try one, this is a country that is committed just about every abuse imaginable and then sanctioned us for calling those abuses out, so the speaker rightly said that whilst freedom of speech is under attack from those who have been elected both in the house of commons but also those in the house of lords, as some of them are being sanctioned, he said he can't possibly contain the idea that the representatives of the chinese government could enter parliament, and of course westminster hall is in parliament, sol and of course westminster hall is in parliament, so i applaud him for that because he is standing firm and i think the government should have stood firm as well. you
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i think the government should have stood firm as well.— stood firm as well. you say the invitation _ stood firm as well. you say the invitation to _ stood firm as well. you say the invitation to the _ stood firm as well. you say the invitation to the chinese - stood firm as well. you say the i invitation to the chinese government to attend the queen's funeral should be withdrawn. to attend the queen's funeral should be withdrawn-— be withdrawn. why? because of the oints i be withdrawn. why? because of the points liust — be withdrawn. why? because of the points ijust made. _ be withdrawn. why? because of the points ijust made. i— be withdrawn. why? because of the points ijust made. i think _ be withdrawn. why? because of the points i just made. i think you i points ijust made. i think you could invite everybody to come regardless, or if you are going to pick organisations and countries that are not up to the mark for human rights and for their behaviour, and russia is banned, belarus is banned, then shine is guilty of pretty much all of those things and is also busy supporting the russians at the moment, but at the russians at the moment, but at the same time, sanctioning us for calling out what our egregious human rights abuses is astonishing, the level of imposition of genocide going on now amongst the uyghur muslims in the eastern part of china, not to mention the other abuses i talked about, so we have to decide one way or another whether we consider china to be a present threat. in the last two days i have
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been asked to go to congress as part of an inch rancheria alliance on china, meeting in congress with senators —— into parliamentary alliance. and as well as meeting over 60 parliamentarians around the world, and all they are concerned about is china, and its behaviour, the threat it poses to countries like taiwan and its abuses of its internal citizens as well and these are big, big issues that we are discussing. i are big, big issues that we are discussing-— are big, big issues that we are discussing. i will come back to talked about _ discussing. i will come back to talked about trying _ discussing. i will come back to talked about trying out - discussing. i will come back to talked about trying out rush i discussing. i will come back to| talked about trying out rush in discussing. i will come back to i talked about trying out rush in a moment, but it is for the palace to set out the guest list —— russia and china. they have diplomatic relations with the uk, those countries will send representatives and that includes north korea and iran at ambassador level. the queen held and the king now as well holds an apolitical role. surely some of those differences, because of those conventions have to be set aside on
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an occasion like a state funeral? if thatis an occasion like a state funeral? if that is the case and the palace, by the way, would not invite people without the foreign office's agreement, so let's be honest about it. behind the scenes the foreign office controls the list and the reality is the foreign office and the palace have decided that certain country should be excluded for various reasons and others they have limited to what is essentially based representation, like north korea and you can question whether north korea should even be there, but once you start limiting the list for those behaviours and war, then you are into the reality that now you are judging, quite rightly, countries that have put themselves beyond the pale of normal and decent behaviour and if you are going to do that then china. ratings of the category, but added to that the whole point about parliament not allowing them on the premises as they have sought to sanction parliamentarians under the basis of free speech for calling
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them out for abuses and it is absolutely documented that they are undertaking, notjust to mention tibet where they have put over a quarter a million of tibetans have gone into forced labour camps. this is appalling behaviour so either we do that or not but one thing parliament has stood up for, quite rightly is to say that whilst you sanction and attempt to silence members of parliament and members of the house of lords, you are not welcome on the estate of parliament which is the home of free speech and democracy. you simply cannot wend on that and i wish the authorities, the establishment of the uk would take their lead from what the speaker has said. i their lead from what the speaker has said. , , ,.,, their lead from what the speaker has said. , , ., their lead from what the speaker has said. , ., ., their lead from what the speaker has said. , , ,, ., ., ., said. i suppose you are drawing a distinction _ said. i suppose you are drawing a distinction between _ said. i suppose you are drawing a distinction between what - said. i suppose you are drawing a distinction between what is i distinction between what is happening currently in westminster hall as opposed to what is happening in westminster abbey but you've mentioned china and russia stop how important is it to not isolate china further and potentially push them
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further and potentially push them further towards moscow? itinfoil. further and potentially push them further towards moscow? well, they are re further towards moscow? well, they are pretty far— further towards moscow? well, they are pretty far towards _ further towards moscow? well, they are pretty far towards moscow i further towards moscow? well, they are pretty far towards moscow as i further towards moscow? well, they are pretty far towards moscow as it | are pretty far towards moscow as it is and i don't think you can get them much further over. they are supporting the russians through the war and buying their oil and supplies off them as the same time as helping them in theirfinancial systems so there is lots they are doing but the reality is we have to be had careful because otherwise we push them in the other directions and i keep coming back to the simple fact that the problem we face right now is they are clear and present threat through many countries around them, not least of which, in india where they killed indian soldiers on the border and their takeover of the south china sea is against the un and their militarisation and their constant, permanent threat to try one, not to mention all of those internal abuses. the genocide, the crime of all crimes, is being committed in china, so yes, you want to work with countries to get them to work with countries to get them to do the right thing but in the case of china, they have flatly refused to change anything and are going down that road already, so
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there is a moment where you say, enough is enough. after all we learnt that lesson in the 1930s, didn't we? where we tail to face the right attitude when appeasing a country of vile abuses and ended up having to go to war with them —— where we failed to face. so we have got these signals earlier that they just cannot have what they want from the free market and abuse everything else. it is a balance.— else. it is a balance. thank you very much _ else. it is a balance. thank you very much for— else. it is a balance. thank you very much for talking _ else. it is a balance. thank you very much for talking to - else. it is a balance. thank you very much for talking to us i else. it is a balance. thank you very much for talking to us this afternoon. let's hear more from king charles now, that speech he made in the welsh parliament, the senedd, accepting the condolences of the welsh people, and alternating between english and the welsh language. he speaks in welsh. i am deeply grateful for the addresses of condolence which so movingly paid tribute to our late sovereign,
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my beloved mother, the queen. he speaks in welsh. to all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took immense pride in your many great achievements, even as she also felt with you deeply in time of sorrow. it must surely be counted the greatest privilege to belong to a land that could inspire such devotion.
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that ancient title dating from the time of those great welsh rulers, whose memory is still rightly honoured. i now pass to my son, william, whose love for this corner of the earth is made all the greater by the years he himself has spent here. he speaks in welsh. having visited the senedd regularly since it was founded, having heard your heartfelt words today, i know we all share the deepest commitment to the welfare of the people of this land and that we will all continue
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to work together to that end. let's ta ke let's take you back to surrey because the prince and princess of wales are still at the army training centre there. they are thanking the commonwealth soldiers from australia, canada and new zealand who have flown to britain especially to take part in the funeral on monday, providing ceremonial sport for the queen's state funeral the prince and princess arrived just as the rehearsals were still under way and have been taking part early in the morning, but they have continued throughout the day and just to make sure that everybody is well drilled
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and making sure that the events on monday go off without a hitch. it is, of course, an enormous undertaking and a massive operation and there's been many years in the planning but making sure that anyone who is involved is fully apprised of what they need to be doing. the sheer range of people has become remarkable. a senior metropolitan police officer has said that from their point of view it is the single biggest policing event that the force has ever undertaken. and it looks like they might be heading away. we've lost the pictures. they've been there to thank all of the troops from the commonwealth countries who have a right to take part. let's catch up with a sports news and sarah isjoining us from bbc sport centre. thank you, after last weekends fixtures were postponed the premier league returns
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this evening with two matches, nottingham forest at home to fulham while aston villa host southampton and football, like so many other sports will be marking the death of queen elizabeth ii in a number of ways over the next weekend. there will be a minute silence on the national anthem will feature at all matches and there will be a round of applause in the 70th minute and players will wear black arm bands with flags of stadiums flying at half mast, and for the villa manager, stephen gerard he said the loss of the queen affected him am the club personally.— loss of the queen affected him am the club personally. from a personal oint of the club personally. from a personal point of view — the club personally. from a personal point of view and _ the club personally. from a personal point of view and from _ the club personally. from a personal point of view and from my _ the club personally. from a personal point of view and from my family i the club personally. from a personal point of view and from my family is i point of view and from my family is point of view and from my family is point of view we've always been fascinated with the royal family and watched an awful lot over the years. obviously, my mum and dad, they are the same, so, yeah, we obviously would like to pay our respects from a club point of view and we will show that pre—game and i'm sure the fans will back it up during the game and hopefully we can give a
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performance for the boys to be proud of. ., . , , , ., ., of. the matches between chelsea and liverool of. the matches between chelsea and liverpool and — of. the matches between chelsea and liverpool and manchester _ of. the matches between chelsea and liverpool and manchester united i of. the matches between chelsea and liverpool and manchester united and| liverpool and manchester united and leeds united will not take place this weekend because of police resourcing. brighton against crystal palace had already been called off because of rail strikes and of course with the international break, a lot of the teams are looking for game time and form, like nottingham forest. they are back in the premier league after a long spell away and sit second bottom and host fulham, but let's hear from steve cooper about how he sees his team and the fans reacting to tributes tonight. we want to show the right respect and, in our game tomorrow night against fulham, we are a classy club and we want to show our good self and we want to show our good self and a good version of our self, but yes, very sad for the country and a lot of coming together. the yes, very sad for the country and a lot of coming together.— lot of coming together. the new women's super _ lot of coming together. the new women's super league - lot of coming together. the new women's super league season i lot of coming together. the new i women's super league season was due women�*s super league season was due to women's super league season was due to get under way last weekend but as we've been discussing with football
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being postponed it was pushed back to this weekend so it kicks off this evening with lassi is a's runners—up, arsenal by hosting brighton and after england winning the euro is on home soil over the sum of this upcoming scene and is seen as a critical one with women's football massively engage with the public in england like never before and we've seen record ticket sales for a lot of the wsl team so far this year be at season ticket sales or selling out stadiums or playing in bigger capacity stadiums as well. here is baroness sue campbell who oversees the development of women's football at the fa. taste oversees the development of women's football at the fa.— football at the fa. we are seeing increased numbers _ football at the fa. we are seeing increased numbers and _ football at the fa. we are seeing increased numbers and certainly| football at the fa. we are seeing i increased numbers and certainly two weeks ago when the championship kicked off, it doubled, the number of people, fans, coming to games, so we want to see that but we also want to continue to see the product on the field get better and better and to get the coverage strong and stronger, to bring a more commercial support, so we will see an instant response, i hope from fans, but some of the other stuff will take a
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little longer and needs managing effectively. my greatest fear is that we grow too fast, too quickly and it needs to be a managed growth and it needs to be a managed growth and development, so we don't want to go and development, so we don't want to 9° up and development, so we don't want to go up quickly and burst and come down again. we want to go up carefully and steadily, so i'm really optimistic we can do that but it needs managing. abs, really optimistic we can do that but it needs managing.— it needs managing. a record 6500 tickets have _ it needs managing. a record 6500 tickets have been _ it needs managing. a record 6500 tickets have been sold _ it needs managing. a record 6500 tickets have been sold for- tickets have been sold for manchester united against reading tomorrow and then chelsea, the defending champions, they will start their campaign on sunday with liverpool. that is it for me at the moment. we've had a statement from the earl of wessex, prince edward, who has been posting on the royal family twitter account who says that we have been overwhelmed by the tide of emotion engulfing us and the sheer number of people who have gone out of their way to express their own love, admiration and respect to
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such a very special and unique person who was always there for us. perfectly encapsulating how many, many people have been feeling this last week or so since it was announced that the queen had died, and all of those stories that people are sharing as they stand in the queue for a glimpse of the queen's coughing in westminster hall. communities across the are making their own things. do you remember the queen, when she came here...? a family's fond memory. we were told the protocol, not to touch her. and the swami—ji put the shawl on her. we thought he was going to get into trouble! for sarita and arshna, this was more than a royal visit — it was royal recognition.
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their father helped build the first hindu temple outside london. now arshna is travelling to the capital for the queen's funeral. i want to be there, _ because obviously my dad can't be there, and say farewell to her and thank her for her service. we'll be coming down here and watching with mum, because my son has also got the day off so we'll be coming here together to watch. i cry all that day. a bradford family or a royal family, they both know grief. so both gone, you know? dad and the queen. very sad. that's why the cathedral is opening its doors. on monday anybody can come here to watch the funeral and comfort one another. people have been coming up to me, coming into the cathedral and talking about some really old—fashioned things, you know? the sense that her majesty brought a constancy, that she was faithful, that she was a servant
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of the people. i think her majesty brought security to us without even speaking. flags at half—mast, a common sight now and a subtle teaching tool at this nearby school. you are going to do an activity, because there is something special happening on monday. it's her funeral. why have you made that today? because the queen has died, and we are very mourning. do you know how long she was queen for? 70. 70 years? ! did you have a tea party? yeah. did you have marmalade sandwiches? yeah. do you know where the queen kept her marmalade sandwiches? in her bag. we've obviously been doing all of these events around the platinum jubilee, so it's very relevant to them in their minds, and then to come back after the summer and for her to pass away, they've felt that sense
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of shock, and so we needed to acknowledge that, and then move through the week also commemorating and celebrating her life. the pupils paying tribute, the cathedral comforting the community, and the family saying thanks. this is one of many cities preparing to say goodbye. fiona trott, bbc news, bradford. it is the first visit by king charles_ it is the first visit by king charles since _ it is the first visit by king charles since his - it is the first visit by king | charles since his accessor it is the first visit by king i charles since his accessor to it is the first visit by king - charles since his accessor to the throne — mervynjones has mervyn jones has been mervynjones has been waiting ektremely— mervynjones has been waiting extremely patiently— mervynjones has been waiting extremely patiently to - mervynjones has been waiting extremely patiently to talk i mervynjones has been waiting extremely patiently to talk to i mervyn jones has been waiting i extremely patiently to talk to us and thank— extremely patiently to talk to us and thank you _ extremely patiently to talk to us and thank you for— extremely patiently to talk to us and thank you for sticking - extremely patiently to talk to us and thank you for sticking with l extremely patiently to talk to usi and thank you for sticking with us on the _ and thank you for sticking with us on the bbc— and thank you for sticking with us on the bbc news _ and thank you for sticking with us on the bbc news channel. - and thank you for sticking with us on the bbc news channel. how. on the bbc news channel. how important _ on the bbc news channel. how important was _ on the bbc news channel. how important was it _ on the bbc news channel. how important was it for— on the bbc news channel. how important was it for wales i on the bbc news channel. how important was it for wales to i important was it for wales to receive — important was it for wales to receive the _ important was it for wales to receive the king _ important was it for wales to receive the king today? i important was it for wales to receive the king today? well, you -la ed a receive the king today? well, you played a few _ receive the king today? well, you played a few minutes _ receive the king today? well, you played a few minutes ago - receive the king today? well, you played a few minutes ago a i receive the king today? well, you i played a few minutes ago a recording of his speech to the senedd, the
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welsh parliament, and he said in welsh, and two points about that, first that he spoke in welsh, and i wonder how many of our british politicians have any knowledge of welsh, whereas the prince, as he was, that is second point, is fairly fluent in welsh. the second point is, is that he has been prince, what he was saying was as he had been prince of wales for a very long time, and was a schoolboy when he was made prince of wales and then there was the investiture, very controversial period in welsh history in 1969 and so he has been
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familiar to those of us in wales and wales has been close to him and he knows they are —— wales very well and he has a house here, and i thought it was very telling that in the first place he spoke in the welsh language but also that he reflected also on the very long time, over 50 years that he has been prince of wales, so the transition from prince to king is perhaps rather closer to us, or rather more difficult to negotiate in some respects in wales than elsewhere because we are so used to him being the prince of wales. has because we are so used to him being the prince of wales.— the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well _ the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well he _ the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well he has _ the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well he has a _ the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well he has a home i the prince of wales. as you say he knows it well he has a home in - the prince of wales. as you say he i knows it well he has a home in wells and he spent lots of time there and that might have changed. describe how his relationship with wales has changed in those years.— changed in those years. wales has chan . ed changed in those years. wales has changed enormously. _ changed in those years. wales has changed enormously. when - changed in those years. wales has changed enormously. when he - changed in those years. wales has| changed enormously. when he was
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invested and he was only a schoolboy when he became prince of wales but when he became prince of wales but when the investiture happened, wales, like so many other countries in the world were saying this is the 19605 in the world were saying this is the 1960s and a period of rebellion and wales was no exception and there was a very strong movement at that time which opposed the investiture of the prince of wales, and interesting that the prince of wales should be welsh and that was quite a difficult period for the monarchy and for politics in wales, but since then, wales has changed enormously, partly because of devolution and since 1999 following the referendum in 1990 —— 1997, wales has had its own
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lawmaking body, with limited powers, but very significant powers, and that has given wales a voice which perhaps it did not have back in 1969, so yes, of course, he has grown to know wales very well, and to know many others in wales but the key thing i think is perhaps that wales has changed so much since that early, difficult period back in 1969. £371 early, difficult period back in 1969. . ., , v, ., 1969. of course, the queen loved wales and had _ 1969. of course, the queen loved wales and had a _ 1969. of course, the queen loved wales and had a special— 1969. of course, the queen loved i wales and had a special relationship of her own. and now we have a new prince and princess of wales. what are your hopes for those relationships?— are your hopes for those relationships? are your hopes for those relationshi s? ~ ~ relationships? well, ithink, i hoe, relationships? well, ithink, i hepe. it's— relationships? well, ithink, i hope, it's creating _ relationships? well, ithink, i hope, it's creating something i relationships? well, ithink, i. hope, it's creating something of relationships? well, ithink, i- hope, it's creating something of a controversy here. not everybody in
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1969, not everybody is comfortable with having a new prince of wales. including some clear supporters of the monarchy. mb? including some clear supporters of the monarchy-— including some clear supporters of the monarchy. including some clear supporters of the monarch . ~ , , ., ., the monarchy. why is that though? it mi . ht the monarchy. why is that though? it miaht be the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive _ the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive of— the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive of me _ the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive of me to _ the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive of me to suggest - the monarchy. why is that though? it might be naive of me to suggest it, l might be naive of me to suggest it, but the hope there is a sense of continuity a sense of looking so that young members of the family want to be a part and want to be part of the modern wales. there are startlin al part of the modern wales. there are startlingly different _ part of the modern wales. there are startlingly different ways _ part of the modern wales. there are startlingly different ways of - startlingly different ways of looking at this, one is to see the association of the prince of wales, and it has to be said that when she was alive with the princess of wales and gave visibility to wales which
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other small countries like ourselves would have envied, that is one perspective and the other perspective, excuse me that we should have our own princes and kings with we wish. bearing in mind the permanent position which is that they are custodians of the roles of they are custodians of the roles of the monarchy. i think that is more of a debate in wales than it is in england, and the public opinion polls demonstrate that. but having said that, there have been huge crowds out today i am where the king and queen consort this morning, and it's quite extraordinary, just down the road from where i am talking to you, there were large crowds and similarly downing cardiff castle, so
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the monarchy is, and the new prince and princess of wales will be welcome and when they visit wales and it would have been blinkered not to acknowledged there was some controversy surrounding the issue. no, we must represent all aspects of that debate. professor mervynjones, former vice chancellor of bangor university, thank you. here we are in windsor. this is the countess of wessex, sophie wessex. meeting the crowds gathering in the sunshine, the late afternoon sunshine.
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well—wishers everywhere. so many people wanting to pay their respects and give their condolences to members of the royal family whether they are and the earl of wessex has posted on the royal family's twitter account, saying they've been overwhelmed by the tide of emotion that has engulfed us and the sheer number of people who have gone out of their way to express their own love, admiration and respect for a very special and unique person, who was always there for us. of course, paying his own tribute to the queen. in a beautiful day there in windsor. the weather has been so kind to so many people who have wanted to come out at the right time when a member of the royal family appears, and you can see to the right of the picture
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how many there are, how many flowers there are that have been placed. let's take a quick look at what is happening in the centre right now. are we going to look at those? , people snaking their way through those lines, about 1k hours was the length of the queue. a few of my colleagues are in there as well along with members of the public, who are waiting for their chance to make their way into westminster hall. we were hearing from my colleague a little while ago that because of the sheer number of people who have been wanting to get into westminster hall to pay their respects to the queen, they have
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closed the queue, some hours ago but you can see the progress people have made as they wend their way towards the palace of westminster. torque 84 and a half mile queue with an 11 hour wait as people come to pay their respects to queen elizabeth ii in westminster hall, including former england captain david beckham. we former england captain david beckham. ~ former england captain david beckham-— former england captain david beckham. ~ , my former england captain david beckham. ~ , beckham. we were very lucky, you know, we beckham. we were very lucky, you know. we have _ beckham. we were very lucky, you know, we have been _ beckham. we were very lucky, you know, we have been lucky - beckham. we were very lucky, you know, we have been lucky as - beckham. we were very lucky, you know, we have been lucky as a - beckham. we were very lucky, you i know, we have been lucky as a nation to have someone who has led us the way her majesty did for the amount of time, with kindness, with caring, and always reassurance. i am of time, with kindness, with caring, and always reassurance.— and always reassurance. i am katty ka live in and always reassurance. i am katty kay live in westminster, _ and always reassurance. i am katty kay live in westminster, where - kay live in westminster, where people are still queueing to say goodbye ahead of the queen's
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children, including king charles, resuming their vigil over her coffin later this evening. in wales, king charles said the deal wales held a special place in his mother's hard. the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbennig i gymru yn ei chalon. king charles has been making his first official visit to cardiff in wales as monarch today. his majesty and queen consort camilla have spent time meeting many of the thousands of well—wishers who had waited hours
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to greet him, shaking hands — even fist—bumping one person, we are told — and thanking them for coming to show their support. let's go live now to wesminster and join my colleague, katty kay. it is amazing to see people still queueing, tens of thousands of people still standing in line to see the queen lying in state. at the moment, it is thought that the line i am watching over there is 14 hours long. so many want to attend that at one stage today mourners were stopped from joining the queue, they had to queue to join the queue. the government said the starting point in turn will not reach capacity, but the gates were closed and amid some confusion later reopened. meanwhile, it has been confirmed that at the request of king charles himself, prince harry can wear military uniform when he takes part in a vigil beside the coffin tomorrow. it will be the first time he has been
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able to do so since stepping back as able to do so since stepping back as a working royal. and still they come, hour by hour, minute by minute, in parks and streets, past offices and monuments, a steady, shuffling procession now five miles long. people driven by love, duty, the chance to say they were there. at southwark park, where the queue begins, a pause this morning. there were, it seems, simply too many people. yeah, she kept everything moving and she never gave up, so why should we? by now, wait times had reached 14 hours. for a while, the government urged people not to tryjoining the line. we just arrived i think a couple of minutes after they closed the gates, yeah. that's life. a queue to get into the queue. absolutely. _ yes, it seems that way. we've only reallyjust joined. yeah —
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we're not entirely sure where we're at, what will happen. we haven't been told any. information at the moment, but we'lljust wait. | we're still smiling. yeah. in westminster hall, the vigil continues. after the long walk, an air of anticipation. members of the public have had many hours to think about these few short moments. the tributes come in many forms. after the camaraderie of the wait, this is private, personal. this evening, for 15 minutes, king charles and his three siblings will stand watch over their mother's coffin. all will be in military uniform. the king is focussed, his spokesman said, on leading the family, the nation, the realms and the commonwealth in mourning for queen elizabeth. tomorrow, the queen's eight
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grandchildren will take their turn. outside the capital, more preparations for monday's state funeral. 4000 military personnel will be on parade, including these members of the royal air force practising at raf haltern in buckinghamshire. she's been the integral part of the armed forces, the glue between the tri—services, and for me just to pay my one small little bit of respect by doing this duty, it's... i can't measure help prideful i feel about that and how humbled to have the opportunity to do that. back in london, the police say the funeral will be the largest event they've ever dealt with. in three days, this country will witness something most of us have never seen, perhaps will never see again in quite the same way — a vast, complex and highly—charged turning of a national page. paul adams, bbc news.
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call it over my shoulder you can see the people who have been queueing for many hours, and nobody gets to jump for many hours, and nobody gets to jump the queue, even if you happen to be one of the world's most famous footballers, david beckham. we all want to be here together, we all want to experience something and celebrate the amazing life of our queen, and i think something like this today is meant to be shared together, so the fact that we have been here, eating pringles, sherbet lemons, sandwiches and having coffee, doughnuts.
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that was david beckham in the queue, who has spent his time eating things that i am sure is very unhealthy for somebody who was meant to be an athlete like himself. i am john isner by historian robert lacey, you have not been standing in the queue for eight hours. —— i am joined now. are you tempted? a little bit? more than tempted! it is so moving! i remember, i was saying this earlier, i am old enough to remember the last big queue like this in 1952 when i was seven years old, living in bristol, and when george vi died. of course then the moment was confused when the new queen wasn't here, because just as prince charles becomes king charles, so the queen was actually carrying out a tour on her ailing father's behalf in kenya.
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we knew about it, but this time obviously the royal family knew what was going on and obviously the royal family knew what was auoin o . ., obviously the royal family knew what was auoin o ., ., , ., obviously the royal family knew what was going 0— was going on and the real state of the queen's _ was going on and the real state of the queen's health _ was going on and the real state of the queen's health before - was going on and the real state of the queen's health before the - was going on and the real state of| the queen's health before the rest of we knew, and then some in the media knew, and then we saw in the house of commons as well, liz truss stopped and was given the note... [30 stopped and was given the note... do you think that was the moment? that was the moment, _ you think that was the moment? hat was the moment, two hours before the rest of us. ~ , ., ., . rest of us. when you were a child watchin: rest of us. when you were a child watching this. — rest of us. when you were a child watching this, robert, _ rest of us. when you were a child watching this, robert, you - rest of us. when you were a child watching this, robert, you didn't| watching this, robert, you didn't see it in all these fantastic, outrageous display of colour. no, it was a little flickering television set, the only television set in the street, and the main thing i remember, of course, is the coronation the following year, and there was still only one television
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in the street! and the price of entry was taking a dining room chair, and you could go into the neighbour's house and sit there, and the sitting room was turned into a sort of cinema. i must admit, is a little boy of seven or eight, it was a little boring sitting there all day long. a little boring sitting there all da lonu. �* ., .,., , day long. i'm going to apologise, i live in the states, _ day long. i'm going to apologise, i live in the states, i _ day long. i'm going to apologise, i live in the states, i am _ day long. i'm going to apologise, i live in the states, i am going - day long. i'm going to apologise, i live in the states, i am going to i live in the states, i am going to ask the basic questions and not sophisticated ones, but this process of people standing in the queue to see the monarch, has that been going back centuries as well? ho. see the monarch, has that been going back centuries as well?— back centuries as well? no. what academics _ back centuries as well? no. what academics call — back centuries as well? no. what academics call reinvented - back centuries as well? no. what - academics call reinvented ceremony. there were vigils in the middle ages for religious folk, but this lying in state in modern times started in 1910. 50 in state in modern times started in 1910. ., , 0h, in state in modern times started in 1910-— oh. yes. i 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, started by — 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, started by george _ 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, started by george v, _ 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, started by george v, who - 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, started by george v, who was - 1910. so relatively new? oh, yes, j started by george v, who was the grandfather of the present queen, so there is that connection. and when
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people talk about how very good the queen was at herjob, for all sorts of reasons to do with his sense of duty and so on, i always think it was because she was a little grandchild playing at the knee of the man who invented the house of windsor, george v, she actually called him grandpa england, although he would now be grandpa britain! she, at that age, grasped what her grandpa was, and what was interesting was that he sensed something in her, and this is not wisdom after the event, because we have been able to see his diaries, and the first time she is mentioned, winston churchill, then a rather controversial active politician, was at balmoral, and he said that the king and i think there is something special about this little girl, and so it proved. special about this little girl, and so it proved-— special about this little girl, and so it roved. ~ ., ., ., ~ ., so it proved. who would have known that they were _ so it proved. who would have known that they were right? _ so it proved. who would have known that they were right? i _ so it proved. who would have known that they were right? i want - so it proved. who would have known that they were right? i want to - so it proved. who would have known that they were right? i want to ask l that they were right? i want to ask about the regulator, we will come
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back to you later. we can go to cardiff, because lots of events have been taking place in wales, and i'm joined now by lucy hopkins. hello and welcome to cardiff, to the senedd, the beating heart of modern democracy here in wales, and the site of an extraordinary and quite historic moment today, when king charles and the queen consort arrived here, and he addressed parliamentarians, speaking notjust parliamentarians, speaking not just in parliamentarians, speaking notjust in english but in welsh, making some references to medieval princes as well, talking about how he was grateful for his time as the prince of wales and how much it meant to him. and how much the country of wales meant to the queen. butjust to tell you, there were many people, about 1000, and it wasn't a long white. people came down in the sunshine with their flags, they were very enthusiastic, very excited to see the king, quite a different
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picture from what we are hearing of london, because the breaking news that we can bring you from in and around westminster about the queue is that we have just heard that the waiting time for the queue to go and see the queen lying in state is 24 hours now, and people are being told not to join that you, it has reached capacity and it has been paused for newjoiners, so the governmentjust saying do notjoin the queue, because the weight is 24 hours, although actually just because the weight is 24 hours, although actuallyjust in the past few seconds, i am sorry, they have opened the queue up again, but there is a very long white, so they are asking people to consider whether the time is right for them to come and join that queue. a very different scene here today, when the king arrived this morning and was greeted by cheering crowds here, there were a few people who were against the monarchy in the crowd,
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they shouted out a few things, but they were quickly drowned out by supporters of the king, and it was a very moving moment when the big screens that were showing his speech, the crowd absolutely fell silent, you could have heard a pin drop as everyone listened so closely to what he had to say, both in welsh and english. let's have a listen. he speaks in welsh. i am deeply grateful for the addresses of condolence which so movingly paid tribute to our late sovereign, my beloved mother, the queen. he speaks in welsh.
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throough all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. he speaks in welsh. i know she took immense pride in your many great achievements, even as she also felt with you deeply in time of sorrow. it must surely be counted the greatest privilege to belong to a land that could inspire such devotion. i am resolved to honour that self selfless example in the spirit of the words by which i have always tried to lead my own life, i serve. he speaks in welsh.
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of the earth is made all the greater by the years he himself has spent here. having visited the senedd regularly since it was founded, having heard your heartfelt words today, i know we all share the deepest commitment to the welfare of the people of this land and that we will all continue to work together to that end. the queen made 300 trips to wales,
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she knew every corner of the country, and people have fond memories of her visit here. one of the things she was well known for was her love of corgis, it was even managed to load mentioned in the —— it was even mentioned in the senedd today. there were people here today with stuffed toys that were corgis and lots of talk about the breed and the queen's love of that particular dog. let's talk to mary davies, who was part of the welsh corgi society, and i think, mary, you have one of your favourites with you. why does the queen and you love the breed so much? ~ ., ., _, , , . much? well, i have had corgis since i was a child. _ much? well, i have had corgis since i was a child, and _ much? well, i have had corgis since i was a child, and they _ much? well, i have had corgis since i was a child, and they are - much? well, i have had corgis since i was a child, and they are just - i was a child, and they are just such a wonderful breed to have, you know, they are lively, they love going for walks, and they are not
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always as soft as this one is being at the moment! but, you know, they sit on your lap as well. they are just a good all—round dog. that sit on your lap as well. they are just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable — just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable dog — just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable dog you _ just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable dog you have - just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable dog you have got, - just a good all-round dog. that is a very lovable dog you have got, and | just a good all-round dog. that is a| very lovable dog you have got, and i think you know, mary, that i am a lover of corgis too, i grew up with a pembrokeshire corgi who was the most delightful dog, and we all absolutely adored her. but tell us about your dog that sired one of the queen's corgis. about your dog that sired one of the queen's corgis-— queen's corgis. yeah, he actually noes queen's corgis. yeah, he actually aoes back queen's corgis. yeah, he actually goes back to _ queen's corgis. yeah, he actually goes back to the _ queen's corgis. yeah, he actually goes back to the pedigree - queen's corgis. yeah, he actually goes back to the pedigree of- queen's corgis. yeah, he actually goes back to the pedigree of this| goes back to the pedigree of this one here, he was asked by the queen, amongst eight other dogs, to go to windsorfor her to make amongst eight other dogs, to go to windsor for her to make a amongst eight other dogs, to go to windsorfor her to make a choice amongst eight other dogs, to go to windsor for her to make a choice for a dog to father a litter of poppies for her. and, anyway, out of the
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eight, my dog got chosen. haifa for her. and, anyway, out of the eight, my dog got chosen. how did ou feel eight, my dog got chosen. how did you feel when _ eight, my dog got chosen. how did you feel when your— eight, my dog got chosen. how did you feel when your dog _ eight, my dog got chosen. how did you feel when your dog was - eight, my dog got chosen. how did i you feel when your dog was chosen? wonderful, you know, it was great and it was lovely meeting the queen, my husband came with me the first time, and we talked about the corgis and the various lines of corgis and also with horses, because my husband used to train racehorses. so there was a connection there. and she was so knowledgeable about pedigrees in horses and dogs. stand. so knowledgeable about pedigrees in horses and dogs.— horses and dogs. and, mary, what is it like when — horses and dogs. and, mary, what is it like when you _ horses and dogs. and, mary, what is it like when you see _ horses and dogs. and, mary, what is it like when you see crowds - horses and dogs. and, mary, what is it like when you see crowds of- it like when you see crowds of people out on the street holding pictures of corgis, or today i have seen some stuffed toys of corgis, i
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mean, along with paddington bear, it is one of the stories of the past week. , ., ., , ., , ., week. oh, yeah, that story of paddington — week. oh, yeah, that story of paddington bear _ week. oh, yeah, that story of paddington bear is _ week. oh, yeah, that story of paddington bear is brilliant, l week. oh, yeah, that story of- paddington bear is brilliant, wasn't it? but yeah, i mean, there has been quite an upsurge in interest in the corgi, with younger people, in the last two or three years. people used to think they were dogs for older people, but that's not the case. they are good for young people as well. and there seems to be a huge following, you know, on facebook and that sort of thing, of the young people, which is great. i mean, we need young people in the breed. did ou need young people in the breed. did you also see a surge in interest after the corgis featured so prominently in the crown as well, the television series?— the television series? yes, i did, es. the television series? yes, i did, yes- yes- —
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the television series? yes, i did, yes- yes- and — the television series? yes, i did, yes. yes. and is _ the television series? yes, i did, yes. yes. and is not _ the television series? yes, i did, yes. yes. and is not worrying - the television series? yes, i did, yes. yes. and is not worrying at | yes. yes. and is not worrying at all, the yes. yes. and is not worrying at all. the fact _ yes. yes. and is not worrying at all, the fact that _ yes. yes. and is not worrying at all, the fact that there - yes. yes. and is not worrying at all, the fact that there is - yes. yes. and is not worrying at all, the fact that there is so - yes. yes. and is not worrying at i all, the fact that there is so much of a demand for the corgis now? we of a demand for the corgis now? , wouldn't want the same sort of demand that was in the 1950s and 19605. i demand that was in the 1950s and 1960s. i mean, people went absolutely crazy to buy corgis, and of course when you get that sort of amount of people wanting them, the wrong people end up reading them and, you know, you get peoplejust in it to make a quick buck and, you know, no breed should have to have that sort of thing.— that sort of thing. mary, they are full of character, _ that sort of thing. mary, they are full of character, not _ that sort of thing. mary, they are full of character, not always - that sort of thing. mary, they are full of character, not always as i full of character, not always as debatable as the one you have on your knee or hannah, the corgi from my childhood. —— biddable. is it true that the queen was once bitten
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by one of her corgis breaking up a fight? 50 by one of her corgis breaking up a fiht? .,, by one of her corgis breaking up a fiuht? .,, by one of her corgis breaking up a fiuht? , ,, fight? so it was said in the press, i don't know _ fight? so it was said in the press, i don't know whether _ fight? so it was said in the press, i don't know whether it _ fight? so it was said in the press, i don't know whether it was - fight? so it was said in the press, i don't know whether it was true l fight? so it was said in the press, | i don't know whether it was true or not, but that can happen with any breed, can't it? you get two dogs, they argue over something, a toy or food or something, and it is not just corgis. any breed can have a couple in the pack that don't really get on. couple in the pack that don't really net on. a , couple in the pack that don't really let on. , ., ~' couple in the pack that don't really net on. ~._ ., ~ ,, couple in the pack that don't really aeton. ~._ ., ~ couple in the pack that don't really aeton. my ., ~ . ., get on. mary, thank you so much for takin: the get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time _ get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time to _ get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time to talk _ get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to _ get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us, - get on. mary, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us, to - taking the time to talk to us, to share your love of the corgis, a love that you and i shared with the queen, delightfulto love that you and i shared with the queen, delightful to see, thank you very much. that was mary davies there, a member of the welsh corgi league. you are watching bbc news. it has been a gorgeous day here in
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cardiff, the sun has shone on us all day. as i left london, somebody handed me an umbrella, but i have not needed it, and it is really encouraged people to come out onto the streets, thousands have been here to welcome king charles. there is a sense of sadness about the loss of the queen, but also a celebration of the queen, but also a celebration of the queen, but also a celebration of the new king very much today, and also talk about the future for prince william, who is the new prince william, who is the new prince of wales. the transformative plays that he could bring to the role and the visibility that he could also bring to wales. one of the interesting thing is, though, that people want to know here, he is head of the english fa and also now the prince of wales, so when england and wales play each other at the world cup, which team will he support? that is it from cardiff for now, katty, back to you. i am sure he will be far too discreet and we will never know! thank you very much forjoining us. i am at the end of the queue just before people go into see the
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queen's coffin, jonathan blake is at carriage gate, where people are coming out of the queue, so you have been speaking to mourners who have emerged, paying their respects to the queen, what are you hearing? well, everyone has a slightly different take on it, emerging into the early evening sunlight here at westminster, as you say, at carriage gate in the palace of westminster. we heard a warning that the wait is now getting up towards 24 hours as the queue officially reopens, this is the end of what is, for pretty much everyone we have spoken to, and exhausting experience in one way or another, emotionally and physically. let's have a quick chat to a few people who filed past the coffin not long ago. just tell me why you chose to come today to pay respects. i mean, she is the queen, the queen of hearts. _ mean, she is the queen, the queen of
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hearts. and _ mean, she is the queen, the queen of hearts, and definitely we are waiting — hearts, and definitely we are waiting since four hours here, and we get _ waiting since four hours here, and we get to— waiting since four hours here, and we get to see her, and that is kind of so _ we get to see her, and that is kind of so emotional moment for us, to be honest. _ of so emotional moment for us, to be honest. and _ of so emotional moment for us, to be honest, and we really wanted to do this, because it is going to stay for us _ this, because it is going to stay for us for— this, because it is going to stay for us for the rest of our lives. yeah, — for us for the rest of our lives. yeah, this_ for us for the rest of our lives. yeah, this is— for us for the rest of our lives. yeah, this is like history, isn't it? , y ., ., ., it? definitely we love how, we love her. how it? definitely we love how, we love her- how did _ it? definitely we love how, we love her. how did it— it? definitely we love how, we love her. how did it feel _ it? definitely we love how, we love her. how did it feel when _ it? definitely we love how, we love her. how did it feel when you - her. how did it feel when you reached westminster - her. how did it feel when you reached westminster hall - her. how did it feel when you | reached westminster hall and her. how did it feel when you - reached westminster hall and filed past the coffee itself? ihleoii past the coffee itself? next feelings. — past the coffee itself? next feelings. it _ past the coffee itself? next feelings, it was _ past the coffee itself? next feelings, it was emotional, | past the coffee itself? next - feelings, it was emotional, and past the coffee itself? jijrll feelings, it was emotional, and also we really wanted to see her when she was alive, and we couldn't, but at least now we could see her... actually, we could sense her presence, very silent, and we can feel her. — presence, very silent, and we can feel her. so— presence, very silent, and we can feel her, so everybody should do this _ feel her, so everybody should do this. ., ., y ., this. you were telling me that you live close to _ this. you were telling me that you live close to windsor _ this. you were telling me that you live close to windsor and - this. you were telling me that you live close to windsor and keep - this. you were telling me that you live close to windsor and keep an | live close to windsor and keep an eye out for the royal family. why do you feel that connection with them? so we always wanted to see her
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alive, but we couldn't, so whatever the functions, whatever the events there, we will definitely go to the windsor castle for at least 15 miles drive. ~ . windsor castle for at least 15 miles drive. ~ , ., , .,. drive. we 'ust love the place, it aives a drive. wejust love the place, it gives a vibe. — drive. wejust love the place, it gives a vibe. l— drive. wejust love the place, it gives a vibe, i guess, _ drive. wejust love the place, it gives a vibe, i guess, so - drive. wejust love the place, it gives a vibe, i guess, so the . drive. we just love the place, it. gives a vibe, i guess, so the first time _ gives a vibe, i guess, so the first time we — gives a vibe, i guess, so the first time we went, we keep on going. we do itat— time we went, we keep on going. we do it at least — time we went, we keep on going. we do it at least twice a week. so, yeah. _ do it at least twice a week. so, yeah. that _ do it at least twice a week. so, yeah, that is the connection we have with the _ yeah, that is the connection we have with the castle, to be honest. the royal— with the castle, to be honest. the royal family, like she said, yeah, we have _ royal family, like she said, yeah, we have always loved the royal family. — we have always loved the royal family, especially the queen. find family, especially the queen. and ou were family, especially the queen. and you were both _ family, especially the queen. jifuc you were both able to family, especially the queen. fific you were both able to join the accessible queue, you didn't have to wait for too long, but still a tiring experience.— wait for too long, but still a tiring experience. wait for too long, but still a tirina exerience. ., ., ., , tiring experience. yeah, four hours. yesterday we _ tiring experience. yeah, four hours. yesterday we came _ tiring experience. yeah, four hours. yesterday we came at _ tiring experience. yeah, four hours. yesterday we came at one - tiring experience. yeah, four hours. yesterday we came at one o'clock i tiring experience. yeah, four hours. | yesterday we came at one o'clock at night, and we stayed here for five hours and then went back, and again we came here with the accessible thing. we came here with the accessible thin. �* ., ., y
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we came here with the accessible thing. but i am really astonished how people _ thing. but i am really astonished how people are _ thing. but i am really astonished how people are queueing - thing. but i am really astonished how people are queueing up - thing. but i am really astonished how people are queueing up forl thing. but i am really astonished i how people are queueing up for ten hours. _ how people are queueing up for ten hours. 11_ how people are queueing up for ten hours, 11 hours, i mean, that shows the respect — hours, 11 hours, i mean, that shows the respect they have for the queen, doesn't _ the respect they have for the queen, doesn't it? _ the respect they have for the queen, doesn't it? i— the respect they have for the queen, doesn't it? i don't think i have ever— doesn't it? i don't think i have ever seen— doesn't it? i don't think i have ever seen something like that which people _ ever seen something like that which people would wait to see somebody and wait _ people would wait to see somebody and wait for that many hours, i don't _ and wait for that many hours, i don't think— and wait for that many hours, i don't think that would ever happen, i guess _ don't think that would ever happen, i cuess. . ~ don't think that would ever happen, i cuess. ., ~ y ., don't think that would ever happen, i cuess. . ~' y ., y don't think that would ever happen, iauess. ., y . i guess. thank you both very much for sharing — i guess. thank you both very much for sharing your — i guess. thank you both very much for sharing your experience - i guess. thank you both very much for sharing your experience with i i guess. thank you both very much l for sharing your experience with us, just two of the many thousands of people who have made the journey to london and had a very long way to pay their respects to the queen lying in state and westminster hall, and this will continue through the night, as we know. it is a warm evening, temperatures getting relatively chilly tonight, so people waiting to file past the queen's coffin will be doing so in relatively challenging conditions, another two full days of lying in state before it comes to an end early on monday morning before the funeral. jonathan, yes, and no sign that that queueis
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jonathan, yes, and no sign that that queue is ending, they have reopened it so people can join the queue now, they will have to go through the night again, but of course everybody has been warned to wrap up warm, bring food and water, and the atmosphere where i am at the head of the queue, it is very festive, it is interesting to speak to jonathan there, where people come out, of course, a little bit more reflective, a little bit more sombre perhaps, having gone through paying their respects, but something of a party atmosphere here where i am. katty, thank you very much. as katty says, people can now rejoin that queue after it was paused for quite some time. but a warning from the government is that if the queue starts to get very, very long again, it is already 24 hours, and as katty was saying, you are advised to wrap up was saying, you are advised to wrap up warm, because it could be called overnight. if capacity is reached again, the government has warned they might have to pause or close
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they might have to pause or close the queue for a little while. but at the queue for a little while. but at the moment you can start queueing again if you wish. but do be prepared for a 24—hour weight and also for it to be very cold overnight, there is a bit of a nip in the air, but so many people want to get into westminster hall to view the queen's coffin, lying in state, that the government has decided that they will reopen the queue. let's join sarah at the bbc sport centre for the latest on all the sport. thank you very much, martine, the premier league programme resumes with few games this evening, the first match is played since the 4th of september, after which games were postponed as a mark of respect following the death of queen elizabeth ii. nottingham forest are at home to fulham, while aston villa
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host southampton, and steven gerrard said the loss of the queen affected both him and the club personally. my my family myfamily and my family and i have been fascinated with the royal family over the years. my mum and dad and, the same. so, yes, we would obviously like to pay our respects from a club point of view and i'm sure the fans back that up and hopefully we can give a performance for the boys to be proud of. the give a performance for the boys to be proud of-_ give a performance for the boys to be proud of-— give a performance for the boys to be roud of. . ., �*, ,, , be proud of. the new women's super leaaue be proud of. the new women's super league season _ be proud of. the new women's super league season gets _ be proud of. the new women's super league season gets under— be proud of. the new women's super league season gets under way - be proud of. the new women's super league season gets under way after. league season gets under way after the postponement coincided with the opening round of fixtures. arsenal kick off the campaign this evening. the season is seen as a critical one with the domestic game coming off the back of the lionesses winning the back of the lionesses winning the euros. sue campbell oversees the development of football at efa. mr; development of football at efa. my greatest fear is that we grow too fast, _ greatest fear is that we grow too fast, too — greatest fear is that we grow too fast, too quickly. it needs to be a
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managed — fast, too quickly. it needs to be a managed growth, develop mentally managed. we want to go up really carefully— managed. we want to go up really carefully and steadily. i am really carefully and steadily. ! am really optimistic— carefully and steadily. i am really optimistic we can do that but it needs— optimistic we can do that but it needs managing.— optimistic we can do that but it needs managing. optimistic we can do that but it needs manarain. . . �* . ., needs managing. great britain are in davis cup action _ needs managing. great britain are in davis cup action against _ needs managing. great britain are in davis cup action against the - davis cup action against the netherlands after losing the first tie against the usa. they must win this to stay in contention for the knockouts. dan evans won his match in straight sets. cameron norrie is not long under way in his singles match. andy murray and joe salisbury for the doubles. former wales rugby union flanker alec popham believes players showing signs of brain injury should... two years ago he was diagnosed with early—onset
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dementia and probably cte which is a progressive brain condition thought to because by repeated blows to the head. lawyers representing more than 185 former rugby union players have begun legal proceedings against the sportlike governing bodies over brain damage suffered by their clients. the sports say players and add the 7 stand 7 standstill it 7 standstill 7 itcomes 7 stand still 7 it comes to safeguarding ., , . .t° . . w 7 7 'to prevent, 7 strategies designed to prevent, identify and manage head injuries. speaking to some boys who are still playing or have just retired, from traumatic brain injury i think that's the keyword we should start calling it, traumatic brain injury not a sports concussion, often is exactly what is going on, they are in that bubble and to come back after a traumatic brain injury in the 60s is unbelievable and they think that is ok. i think there is a
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lot more that needs to be done. we need to make it a safer game because if they don't understand as players and the long—term consequences, it is going to be an uphill battle. you can aet is going to be an uphill battle. you can get more _ is going to be an uphill battle. you can get more by — is going to be an uphill battle. you can get more by listing to the bbc's latest podcast. you can hear more from alexander world rugby�*s chief medical officer. worcester warriors have been given permission to play fixtures this weekend after proving they can safely host matches. they have been given the go—ahead which would have allowed the premiership match against exeter to go ahead. as well as the match against harlequins tomorrow the rfu say they recognise this has been a difficult and uncertain time and say they are
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working with the club which is up for sale and in danger of entering administration. us open champion matt fitzpatrick has set the clubhouse target of eight under par at the italian open in rome. he had to complete the final three holes of his first round this morning following a weather delay yesterday. he picked up two shots so he is on eight under rory michael wright is out on the course at the moment one shot back on seven under following up shot back on seven under following up a birdie on the 11th with this eagle on the 12th. remember this course is set to host next year's ryder cup. that is your sport for now. people have been been finding striking ways to their respects. we are in wappenham in northamptonshire.
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not far to go. and i was being led by david and annette wilson... yeah, we are actually in the flag as we speak, yes. ..to a royal location. let's go this way anyway. it wasn't straightforward. we're nearly to the end, yes, we're getting there. so, this is the point. this is it. i can't see the flag. we are actually in the flag. we are in the flag, yes. we're in the flag? how do we see it, then? the only way we can see it properly is if we go up. it is a creation best seen by plane or drone. it was planted in the spring for thejubilee and it was almost cut down. thankfully, it was saved, because it has now become a place of memorial. it was created for the jubilee? that's right, yeah. what was originally for a lovely celebration, a happy celebration for the queen, has now become a real tribute to her. normally, you'd have got rid of it by this time of the year, but you are going to keep this, iam presuming, now? yes, we're going to try and keep it
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for as long as possible. so, a place that began as a celebration has, in many ways, become a place of memorial. but it will soon be gone. however, there are many others now thinking about how to create some lasting memory of this moment. this mural, for instance, was commissioned and created within hours of last week's sad news. abraham, ourartist, was here at 5:30 yesterday morning, abraham, ourartist, _ was here at 5:30 yesterday morning, and we were done by about 3:30, so smashed it out pretty quickly. | a request from the children of gainsborough primary in newham, who are very proud of their new artwork. what did you think when you first saw it? i thought it was a beautiful painting and i was so happy with the people that did it. it's amazing. itjust creates more memories inside your head. the eyes look real, very real. the feathers look good, don't they? they look real.
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and it also will remind us that we are not alone, that she will still be there. so if we sometimes pass, we can always give her flowers. i have never seen a picture that great, especially- the crown, i love it. everyone can see this walking past. exactly. they are going to be laying flowers. what better way to pay tribute to her majesty the queen than having her on the front of our school. and the kids, as soon as they came into school, they were saying, "we want something". yeah, yeah, they wanted us to do something. but they wanted something permanent.? they wanted something big. not all of us can lay flowers at a palace or queue for the lying—in—state, but there are many ways to remember. david sillito, bbc news, newham, east london. william and kate, the prince and princess of wales, are visiting pirbright barracks in surrey to meet commonwealth troops who will be taking part in the funeral on monday. let's over to pirbright now to join our news correspondent,
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helena wilkinson. they have been putting them through their paces today. thea;r they have been putting them through their paces today.— their paces today. they absolutely are. the prince _ their paces today. they absolutely are. the prince and _ their paces today. they absolutely are. the prince and princess i their paces today. they absolutely are. the prince and princess of i are. the prince and princess of wales spent about one hour here at the army training centre as you said meeting troops from the commonwealth who will be taking part in the procession on monday. a significant role and one that they are taking incredibly seriously as you would imagine. let's speak to two of those that will be taking part. the tenant commander once per and corporal gifford of the royal new zealand army. thank you for talking to us. you spoke to prince william when he walked around, spent time talking to you and the troops. what was the
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conversation, what did he say? intern; conversation, what did he say? very personable- — conversation, what did he say? very personable. the _ conversation, what did he say? very personable. the key _ conversation, what did he say? very personable. the key thing i took away— personable. the key thing i took away from — personable. the key thing i took away from him was how he said that her majesty would be looking down on us and _ her majesty would be looking down on us and really watching for the finer detail— us and really watching for the finer detail of— us and really watching for the finer detail of our drill, marching, dress. — detail of our drill, marching, dress, everything like that. he was real personable and made us feel at home _ real personable and made us feel at home. ., , ., . real personable and made us feel at home. ., ., . . ., home. you spoke to prince william as well. what home. you spoke to prince william as well- what did — home. you spoke to prince william as well. what did he _ home. you spoke to prince william as well. what did he say _ home. you spoke to prince william as well. what did he say to _ home. you spoke to prince william as well. what did he say to you? - home. you spoke to prince william as well. what did he say to you? he i well. what did he say to you? he conveyed similar conversation and how grateful — conveyed similar conversation and how grateful he _ conveyed similar conversation and how grateful he was _ conveyed similar conversation and how grateful he was that - conveyed similar conversation and how grateful he was that we i conveyed similar conversation and how grateful he was that we havel how grateful he was that we have iourneyed — how grateful he was that we have iourneyed so _ how grateful he was that we have iourneyed so far— how grateful he was that we have journeyed so far to _ how grateful he was that we have journeyed so far to come - how grateful he was that we have journeyed so far to come here i how grateful he was that we havei journeyed so far to come here and honour— journeyed so far to come here and honour his — journeyed so far to come here and honour his grandmother— journeyed so far to come here and honour his grandmother and i journeyed so far to come here and honour his grandmother and that. journeyed so far to come here and i honour his grandmother and that he was really— honour his grandmother and that he was really appreciative _ honour his grandmother and that he was really appreciative and - honour his grandmother and that he was really appreciative and again i was really appreciative and again looking _ was really appreciative and again looking at— was really appreciative and again looking at the _ was really appreciative and again looking at the finer— was really appreciative and again looking at the finer detail - was really appreciative and again looking at the finer detail in i looking at the finer detail in monday's— looking at the finer detail in monday's event. _ looking at the finer detail in monday's event.— looking at the finer detail in monday's event. looking at the finer detail in monda 's event. ~ ., ., ., monday's event. what did it mean to both of ou monday's event. what did it mean to both of you to _ monday's event. what did it mean to both of you to speak _ monday's event. what did it mean to both of you to speak to _ monday's event. what did it mean to both of you to speak to him - monday's event. what did it mean to both of you to speak to him here? i l both of you to speak to him here? i know you arrived here on monday probably suffering from jet lag. what did it mean when you spoke to him personally. it what did it mean when you spoke to him personally-— him personally. it meant so much
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because i was _ him personally. it meant so much because i was brought _ him personally. it meant so much because i was brought up, - him personally. it meant so much because i was brought up, my i him personally. it meant so much i because i was brought up, my mother herself— because i was brought up, my mother herself as _ because i was brought up, my mother herself as a _ because i was brought up, my mother herself as a huge royalist and loves the royal— herself as a huge royalist and loves the royal family and told me all about— the royal family and told me all about them so i have grown up within myself _ about them so i have grown up within myself it _ about them so i have grown up within myself. it will be something i cherish— myself. it will be something i cherish for the rest of my life. words — cherish for the rest of my life. words cannot describe howl cherish for the rest of my life. words cannot describe how i feel and the ability— words cannot describe how i feel and the ability to be here and serve. tell our— the ability to be here and serve. tell our audience of viewers what your role will be on monday. i don't know which one of you wants to answer but your role on monday in central london where you will be and what you will be doing.— what you will be doing. there is a contingent _ what you will be doing. there is a contingent of _ what you will be doing. there is a contingent of australian, - what you will be doing. there is a | contingent of australian, canadian and new_ contingent of australian, canadian and new zealand _ contingent of australian, canadian and new zealand forces _ contingent of australian, canadian and new zealand forces all - contingent of australian, canadian and new zealand forces all made i contingent of australian, canadian i and new zealand forces all made up from army— and new zealand forces all made up from army and — and new zealand forces all made up from army and navy _ and new zealand forces all made up from army and navy and _ and new zealand forces all made up from army and navy and air- and new zealand forces all made up from army and navy and air force i and new zealand forces all made up i from army and navy and air force and we will— from army and navy and air force and we will all— from army and navy and air force and we will all march _ from army and navy and air force and we will all march together. _ from army and navy and air force and we will all march together. we - from army and navy and air force and we will all march together. we are i we will all march together. we are i’i l ht we will all march together. we are right up— we will all march together. we are right up the — we will all march together. we are right up the front _ we will all march together. we are right up the front and _ we will all march together. we are right up the front and we - we will all march together. we are right up the front and we are i right up the front and we are marching _ right up the front and we are marching to— right up the front and we are marching to honour- right up the front and we are marching to honour her- right up the front and we are i marching to honour her majesty right up the front and we are - marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable _ marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable life _ marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable life that _ marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable life that she - marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable life that she led i marching to honour her majesty and the remarkable life that she led and| the remarkable life that she led and also honouring _ the remarkable life that she led and also honouring the _ the remarkable life that she led and also honouring the relationship i also honouring the relationship between — also honouring the relationship between all— also honouring the relationship between all of— also honouring the relationship between all of the _ also honouring the relationship i between all of the commonwealth nations— between all of the commonwealth nations and — between all of the commonwealth nations and that _ between all of the commonwealth nations and that is _ between all of the commonwealth nations and that is what _ between all of the commonwealth nations and that is what is - between all of the commonwealth nations and that is what is really i nations and that is what is really come _ nations and that is what is really come out — nations and that is what is really come out here _ nations and that is what is really come out here at— nations and that is what is really come out here at the _ nations and that is what is really
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come out here at the army- nations and that is what is really come out here at the army base j nations and that is what is really i come out here at the army base we are at. _ come out here at the army base we are at. that — come out here at the army base we are at, that everyone _ come out here at the army base we are at, that everyone is— come out here at the army base we are at, that everyone is working i are at, that everyone is working together— are at, that everyone is working together and _ are at, that everyone is working together and we're _ are at, that everyone is working together and we're really- are at, that everyone is working i together and we're really focused on monday— together and we're really focused on monday and — together and we're really focused on monday and making _ together and we're really focused on monday and making we _ together and we're really focused on monday and making we honour- together and we're really focused on monday and making we honour the i monday and making we honour the women _ monday and making we honour the women as— monday and making we honour the women as we — monday and making we honour the women as we should. _ monday and making we honour the women as we should. what- monday and making we honour the women as we should. what connection did the queen — women as we should. what connection did the queen have _ women as we should. what connection did the queen have to _ women as we should. what connection did the queen have to your— did the queen have to your contingent?— did the queen have to your continent? ,, ., , ., ., contingent? she was the overall commander _ contingent? she was the overall commander of _ contingent? she was the overall commander of arsenal, - contingent? she was the overall. commander of arsenal, especially contingent? she was the overall- commander of arsenal, especially for new zealand it was already combat core, _ new zealand it was already combat core. for— new zealand it was already combat core, for myself being the 1st battalion, she was our commander—in—chief, that is why we were _ commander—in—chief, that is why we were able _ commander—in—chief, that is why we were able to — commander—in—chief, that is why we were able to come here and honour her and _ were able to come here and honour her and it— were able to come here and honour her and it is— were able to come here and honour herand it is a— were able to come here and honour herand it is a huge were able to come here and honour her and it is a huge privilege. the same _ her and it is a huge privilege. the same for— her and it is a huge privilege. the same for air— her and it is a huge privilege. the same for air force and navy, been your senior— same for air force and navy, been your senior service. as same for air force and navy, been your senior service.— your senior service. as the royal coule your senior service. as the royal couple were _ your senior service. as the royal couple were wondering - your senior service. as the royal couple were wondering around, | your senior service. as the royal i couple were wondering around, one of the people we spoke to said she was feeling rather nervous ahead of monday. i wanted to get a sense from both of you how your feeling. i am feelin: both of you how your feeling. i am feeling focused, _ both of you how your feeling. i am feeling focused, i _ both of you how your feeling. i am feeling focused, i am _ both of you how your feeling. i am feeling focused, i am aware that there _ feeling focused, ! am aware that there will— feeling focused, i am aware that there will be _ feeling focused, i am aware that there will be a _ feeling focused, i am aware that there will be a lot _ feeling focused, i am aware that there will be a lot of _ feeling focused, i am aware that
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there will be a lot of people i there will be a lot of people watching, _ there will be a lot of people watching, i_ there will be a lot of people watching, ithink— there will be a lot of people watching, ! think it's- there will be a lot of people i watching, i think it's important to compartmentalise _ watching, i think it's important to compartmentalise that _ watching, i think it's important to . compartmentalise that nervousness and just— compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus — compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus on _ compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus on the _ compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus on the job _ compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus on the job at - compartmentalise that nervousness and just focus on the job at hand. . and just focus on the job at hand. definitely— and just focus on the job at hand. definitely nervous _ and just focus on the job at hand. definitely nervous but _ and just focus on the job at hand. definitely nervous but just - and just focus on the job at hand. definitely nervous but just focus. | and just focus on the job at hand. i definitely nervous but just focus. i want _ definitely nervous but just focus. i want to _ definitely nervous but just focus. i want to do— definitely nervous but just focus. i want to do the best job definitely nervous but just focus. i want to do the bestjob i can do and iam want to do the bestjob i can do and lam not_ want to do the bestjob i can do and i am not going to let her majesty down _ i am not going to let her majesty down. that is what i plan on doing. everything — down. that is what i plan on doing. everything will be done perfectly but you have been rehearsing. i think you arrived monday, you spent hours rehearsing and more to come ahead of monday?— hours rehearsing and more to come ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade — ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade ground _ ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade ground here _ ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade ground here and - ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade ground here and we - ahead of monday? yes, we spent hours on the parade ground here and we did l on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal— on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal in— on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal in london _ on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal in london in _ on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal in london in the _ on the parade ground here and we did a rehearsal in london in the early- a rehearsal in london in the early hours _ a rehearsal in london in the early hours of— a rehearsal in london in the early hours of the _ a rehearsal in london in the early hours of the morning _ a rehearsal in london in the early hours of the morning and - a rehearsal in london in the early hours of the morning and it - a rehearsal in london in the early hours of the morning and it was i hours of the morning and it was quite _ hours of the morning and it was quite a — hours of the morning and it was quite a remarkable _ hours of the morning and it was quite a remarkable to _ hours of the morning and it was quite a remarkable to march - hours of the morning and it was - quite a remarkable to march around those _ quite a remarkable to march around those streets — quite a remarkable to march around those streets in _ quite a remarkable to march around those streets in london _ quite a remarkable to march around those streets in london and - quite a remarkable to march around those streets in london and we - quite a remarkable to march around those streets in london and we will| those streets in london and we will continue _ those streets in london and we will continue the — those streets in london and we will continue the rehearsals _ those streets in london and we will continue the rehearsals here - those streets in london and we will continue the rehearsals here and l those streets in london and we will. continue the rehearsals here and get the job— continue the rehearsals here and get the job done — continue the rehearsals here and get the job done on— continue the rehearsals here and get the job done on monday. _ continue the rehearsals here and get the job done on monday. horat- continue the rehearsals here and get the job done on monday.— the job done on monday. how did it feel for you — the job done on monday. how did it feel for you to _ the job done on monday. how did it feel for you to be _ the job done on monday. how did it feel for you to be in _ the job done on monday. how did it feel for you to be in central- the job done on monday. how did it feel for you to be in central london| feel for you to be in central london in the early hours of the morning? what was that like to rehearse?
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surreal. i have only seen the pictures— surreal. i have only seen the pictures in— surreal. i have only seen the pictures in movies and so being there _ pictures in movies and so being there marching, surreal. pretty big. we wish— there marching, surreal. pretty big. we wish you— there marching, surreal. pretty big. we wish you all the best in what will be an incredibly important role for you all. the royal couple who spent about an hour here at the centre, it was very clear you got the sense that the appreciated the troops who had flown in, have flown in especially to the uk to be here to take part on monday. prince william we know said to someone he was very grateful for their support and those who are taking part, as you heard we're taking this
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incredibly seriously, it will be an honour for them and one they will never forget. honour for them and one they will never forget-— honour for them and one they will never forget. thank you very much. there was a — never forget. thank you very much. there was a surprise _ never forget. thank you very much. there was a surprise visit _ never forget. thank you very much. there was a surprise visit to - there was a surprise visit to windsor where prince edward and sophie turned out to greet the crowds, greet the well—wishers. there was a bit of a surprise because no one was expecting them and about a0 minutes before they came, the unsuspecting crowd is removed behind a barrier so they knew something was afoot. they both, the royal couple spoke to people in the royal couple spoke to people in the crowd, accepting flowers and then read tributes that were left outside cambridge gate. a statement was also issued today by the earl of
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wessex and he said we have been overwhelmed by the tide of emotion that has engulfed us and the sheer number of people who have gone out of their way to express their love, admiration and respect to a very special and unique person, the queen, who was always there for all of us. it was a very emotional statement, remembering his mother but also looking ahead to his brother's reign. he said people have been very kind remembering the precious memories he and his family shared with the queen but he also said that losing their beloved mother has left an unimaginable void in all of our lives. many people in windsor very pleased to see the wessexes this afternoon. king charles has been treating well—wishers in cardiff and met members of the senate. —— senate. we
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can hear about the events from our wales correspondence. after 6a years as prince, the first foray to wales as king. the significance signalled by the now familiar salute. the visit began with a service of prayer and reflection on the life of elizabeth ii. a time for solemnity and celebration, remembering how she engaged everyone she met. to the person on the street, with an attentiveness that made you feel that you were valued, you were understood, born perhaps of her experience as a mother, grandmother and great—grandmother, as much as queen. this kind of skill is learned over the decades. outside, they had waited patiently
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for a glimpse of the man who is now the monarch and inherits goodwill at a time of grief. we're just really pleased that he has taken the time, because it's not the best time for him, after losing a parent, for anybody. but he has come to wales, and to show our support is, i think, really important. we've come out, not only to experience i history, but it's an experience, j as a family with the little 'uns, and, you know, just be a part of it. well, personally, i don't believe that we need a prince of wales, but i'm more than happy to welcome the royal family here. university college aberystwyth, where, to the relief of the nation, prince charles was given a warm and very friendly welcome. the prince who, onjuly1st, becomes prince of wales, is taking a nine—week welsh language and history course at the university. the welcome hasn't always been so warm. security concerns surrounded charles' time in wales in the 19605. he came to aberystwyth for a crash
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course in welsh as a way of trying to win over a nation sceptical of having an english prince of wales. it didn't stop the protests in the lead—up to his investiture. for years, these images defined his relationship with wales, but tensions gradually eased, thay relationship relaxed. royal patronage was used as a way to find a place in welsh life. his love of the arts and welsh culture. j i think his commitment to wales has always been there, - i don't doubt it for one minute. but how committed is wales to maintaining the monarchy? opinion polls here suggest it hoversjust over 50%. oh, i think they bring a lot of revenue obviously to this country. to wales ? yes, yes, to everywhere, yeah.
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people love the monarchy, i think. i don't know, i think it just seems out of touch with where we are as a country now. i think now the queen's gone and a lot of people were holding on to the romance of the queen, but, yeah, personally... not part of the future for wales? no, no. this afternoon the focus shifted to the senedd — a building opened by the queen, an institution which grew, with her support. its members offered their condolences. today, there is a sense of transition in wales. this morning we came together in a service of reflection at llandaff cathedral, to look back over a reign unrivalled in its length and in its reach. for many, this visit marks a new chapter, a time when the royal relationship with wales is reframed and renewed.
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through all the years of her reign, the land of wales could not have been closer to my mother's heart. roedd lle arbennig i gymru yn ei chalon. let's return to the huge queues as mourners from around the world wait to visit the queen's lying—in—state. cathy morgan has been waiting in the accessible queue. you seen to have had a disappointing day. what should the protocol be forjoining the queue and making progress? irate queue and making progress? we arrived queue and making progress? - arrived here at about 1:30pm. we were in the queues quite happily standing when all of a sudden,
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somebody came along, one of the military came along and said the queueis military came along and said the queue is closed. we thought yeah 0k we will stay in the queue then they brought a barrier out and put it in front of us. they said the queue is closed, there is no guarantee anybody behind the barrier will be able to get in to see the queen lying—in—state at all... you able to get in to see the queen lying-in-state at all... you have to ick lying-in-state at all. .. you have to ick u- lying-in-state at all... you have to ick u- a lying-in-state at all... you have to pick up a wristband, _ lying-in-state at all... you have to pick up a wristband, a _ lying-in-state at all... you have to pick up a wristband, a wristband, l lying-in-state at all... you have to| pick up a wristband, a wristband, is that right? irate pick up a wristband, a wristband, is that riuht? ~ . �* ., that right? we hadn't even got wristbands _ that right? we hadn't even got wristbands because _ that right? we hadn't even got wristbands because we - that right? we hadn't even got wristbands because we had - that right? we hadn't even got l wristbands because we had been that right? we hadn't even got - wristbands because we had been told they had run out. we were still standing in the queue waiting. the queue obviously got a little bit rowdy because people said you cannot just put a queue in the middle of, a barrier in the middle of the queue, which he did. so they got a bit
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rowdy, there was nobody telling, nobody knew. nobody in authority knew what an earth was going on in this queue. knew what an earth was going on in this cueue. ., . . , knew what an earth was going on in this queue-— this queue. how clear is it to you now because _ this queue. how clear is it to you now because i — this queue. how clear is it to you now because i was _ this queue. how clear is it to you now because i was reading - this queue. how clear is it to you now because i was reading on . this queue. how clear is it to you | now because i was reading on the this queue. how clear is it to you - now because i was reading on the bbc news website, our security correspondent frank gardner has been reporting from the accessible queue, frank of course is a wheelchair user and he said a soldierfrom frank of course is a wheelchair user and he said a soldier from the royal engineers told him they turned away about 1000 people today. what progress have you made at all since you joined that you? irate progress have you made at all since you joined that you?— you joined that you? we have made progress- -- — you joined that you? we have made progress- -- hang — you joined that you? we have made progress... hang on. _ you joined that you? we have made progress... hang on. hang - you joined that you? we have made progress... hang on. hang on. - you joined that you? we have made progress... hang on. hang on. i- you joined that you? we have made i progress... hang on. hang on. i have a wristband. progress... hang on. hang on. i have a wristband-— a wristband. excellent. what does that mean in _ a wristband. excellent. what does that mean in terms _ a wristband. excellent. what does that mean in terms of— a wristband. excellent. what does that mean in terms of how - a wristband. excellent. what does that mean in terms of how long i a wristband. excellent. what does l that mean in terms of how long you will have to wait? qm. that mean in terms of how long you will have to wait?— will have to wait? ok, that now means i will have to wait? ok, that now means i can — will have to wait? ok, that now means i can join _ will have to wait? ok, that now means i can join the _ will have to wait? ok, that now means i can join the queue - will have to wait? ok, that now means i can join the queue forl will have to wait? ok, that now. means i can join the queue for the means i canjoin the queue for the accessible access between a—5 am.
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what are you going to do between now and then? �* ,, ., . and then? don't know. look at the flowers, and then? don't know. look at the flowers. get _ and then? don't know. look at the flowers, get something _ and then? don't know. look at the flowers, get something to - and then? don't know. look at the flowers, get something to eat, - and then? don't know. look at the | flowers, get something to eat, find somewhere to keep warm for the evening. it somewhere to keep warm for the evenina. . ., somewhere to keep warm for the evenina. .., , somewhere to keep warm for the evenina. _, , . evening. it could be chili overnight. _ evening. it could be chili overnight. what - evening. it could be chili overnight. what would l evening. it could be chili i overnight. what would help evening. it could be chili - overnight. what would help you evening. it could be chili _ overnight. what would help you now? clearly there have been a lot of confused mixed messages. i clearly there have been a lot of confused mixed messages. i feel so sor for confused mixed messages. i feel so sorry for the — confused mixed messages. i feel so sorry for the people _ confused mixed messages. i feel so sorry for the people further - confused mixed messages. i feel so sorry for the people further back - confused mixed messages. i feel so sorry for the people further back in l sorry for the people further back in the queue that have been sent away because they said this could be the complete end of the queue. the queue has reached its capacity of people that they can get through westminster hall in its allotted time. . , . ~ westminster hall in its allotted time. . ~ , westminster hall in its allotted time. . ,, , ., westminster hall in its allotted time. .~ , ., , time. there was talk they would be no more wristbands _ time. there was talk they would be no more wristbands given - time. there was talk they would be no more wristbands given out - time. there was talk they would be no more wristbands given out to i no more wristbands given out to lunch time tomorrow, about midday tomorrow at the earliest. and people are going to face a very, very long wait. it is 2a hours in the other
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queue, it could be even longer in that queue, could it? it queue, it could be even longer in that queue, could it?— that queue, could it? it could be because they — that queue, could it? it could be because they were _ that queue, could it? it could be because they were trying - that queue, could it? it could be because they were trying to i that queue, could it? it could be| because they were trying to send that queue, could it? it could be i because they were trying to send us away, my friend and i agreed that we would stay in the queue and we would run the risk. we have done it for the queen mother, we will do it for the queen mother, we will do it for the queen mother, we will do it for the queen herself as well. we stood in the queue and they came back and said if you do get a wristband you may not, they cannot guarantee you will get in to see the queen lying—in—state at all. will get in to see the queen lying-in-state at all.- will get in to see the queen lying-in-state at all. even with a wristband? _ lying-in-state at all. even with a wristband? they _ lying-in-state at all. even with a wristband? they were _ lying-in-state at all. even with a wristband? they were advising i lying-in-state at all. even with a l wristband? they were advising we lying-in-state at all. even with a i wristband? they were advising we go home and come _ wristband? they were advising we go home and come back _ wristband? they were advising we go home and come back tomorrow i wristband? they were advising we go home and come back tomorrow at i wristband? they were advising we go i home and come back tomorrow at 12pm. how feasible would that be for you? how feasible would that be for you? how far have you travelled? travelled up from kent. it is two trains plus the taxi to get into the queue. then you are told they cannot
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even guarantee that by tomorrow afternoon you will get back into the same place in the queue were originally standing. irate same place in the queue were originally standing.— same place in the queue were originally standing. we hope that all important _ originally standing. we hope that all important wristband _ originally standing. we hope that all important wristband means i originally standing. we hope that | all important wristband means you will get in and you can keep warm tonight and you do get into westminster hall. thank you very much for talking to us. while preparations continue on monday, communities are making their own plans to mark the occasion. fiona trott reports from bradford. do you remember the queen, when she came here...? a family's fond memory. we were told the protocol, not to touch her. and the swami—ji put the shawl on her. we thought he was going to get into trouble! for sarita and arshna, this was more than a royal visit — it was royal recognition. their father helped build the first hindu temple outside london.
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now arshna is travelling to the capital for the queen's funeral. i want to be there, because obviously my dad can't be there, and say farewell to her and thank her for her service. we'll be coming down here and watching with mum, because my son has also got the day off so we'll be coming here together to watch. i cry all that day... a bradford family or a royal family, they both know grief. so both gone, you know? dad and the queen. very sad. that's why the cathedral is opening its doors. on monday anybody can come here to watch the funeral and comfort one another. people have been coming up to me, coming into the cathedral and talking about some really old—fashioned things, you know? the sense that her majesty brought a constancy, that she was faithful, that she was a servant of the people.
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i think her majesty brought security to us without even speaking. flags at half—mast, a common sight now and a subtle teaching tool at this nearby school. you are going to do an activity, because there is something special happening on monday. it's her funeral. why have you made that today? because the queen has died, and we are very mourning. do you know how long she was queen for? 70. 70 years?! did you have a tea party? yeah. did you have marmalade sandwiches? yeah. do you know where the queen kept her marmalade sandwiches? in her bag. we've recently been doing all of these events around the platinum jubilee, so it's very relevant to them in their minds, and then to come back after the summer and for her to pass away, they've felt that sense of shock, and so we needed to acknowledge that, and then move
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through the week also commemorating and celebrating her life. the pupils paying tribute, the cathedral comforting the community, and the family saying thanks. this is one of many cities preparing to say goodbye. fiona trott, bbc news, bradford. let's remind you that after being closed for a few hours, the queue to see the queen lying—in—state has now reopened. but learners are being warned that they face a very long wait —— mourners are being warned that they face a long wait and it could be a very cold night. it could be a wait of more than 2a hours. in the accessible queue, it could be even longer. earlier in the day, the king, king and camilla queen consort
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today at six: king charles ends his tour of the uk in cardiff, addressing members of the welsh parliament and greeting crowds who came to welcome him. the king arrived to cheers and flag waving from the hundreds of people who had gathered. the king addressed the senedd in both welsh and english, and spoke of his close links with the nation. i take up my new duties with immense gratitude, for the privilege of having been able to serve as prince of wales. this is the scene in westminster hall, where people continue to file through to see the coffin of the late queen lying—in—state.
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