getting it right and getting it coordinated in a way that the community sees you are an organisation that is for them, and they're not just doing things to the public, like arresting and stopping and searching unnecessarily. briefly, in terms of the relationship between this new home secretary and the police — your assessment? i think certain elements will like what she said, similar to the federation liked what priti patel said. i wouldn't be surprised if this flies into the playbook of the federation, who makes the culture very toxic, i might add. in all honesty, it is the same old type of approach and it will not make things better. it might even make things worse.

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hello. this is bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh and these are the headlines. the chancellor defends his tax cuts aimed at boosting economic growth, saying they're fair for all, but kwasi kwarteng's mini—budget is receiving a mixed reaction from the public. i think its probably will help, but it depends what brackets you are in, in terms of income. this it depends what brackets you are in, in terms of income.— in terms of income. this feels like it does not — in terms of income. this feels like it does not even _ in terms of income. this feels like it does not even touch _ in terms of income. this feels like it does not even touch the - in terms of income. this feels like it does not even touch the sides. l in terms of income. this feels like i it does not even touch the sides. we will see _ the labour leader sir keir starmer arrives in liverpool ahead of his party conference, telling crowds he'll set out what he calls the alternative to what he called the tory government's "casino economics".

the home secretary, tells police chiefs that common sense policing must take priority over diversity and inclusion initiatives as she sets out her the priorities of her crime—cutting agenda. now on bbc news the media show. hello. the queen's funeral was the culmination of days of coverage across the british media. the new culture secretary called the bbc�*s efforts "phenomenal" and "spot on". so, did the media get the tone right? were a range of views about the monarchy represented? and amid the pageantry and commentary, was there room forjournalism? i'm joined by marcus ryder, who's head of external consultancies in the lenny henry centre for media diversity, baroness stowell, who's conservative chair of the house of lords communication and digital select committee, lord vaizey, a former culture secretary who was in the david cameron government at the time of the 2012 olympics, emily bell, professor of professional practice at the columbia university graduate school ofjournalism, and stefanie bolzen is the uk correspondent of germany's die welt newspaper. welcome to you all, thank you so much for coming on the media show. and if we could start with you, tina stowell,

what is your assessment of how the british media has done over the past two weeks? i think it's done a very good job, actually. i think it's reflected both the importance and the significance of the death of our monarch after 70 years' reign. i think it has reflected the emotional reaction that there's been amongst many people. but it's also, i think, been able to capture how britain has been on display in such a way where we've showed the best of all of us, really, and what we've been able to do is demonstrate that this is a modern country which is still a great country and is proud and is not shy in putting front and centre all that we stand for. so, ithink...

you know, i understand and would be able to appreciate that, for some people, sometimes there's probably been more than they wanted — not everybody would've wanted to watch it all day, every day. even the most ardent of monarchists need to have a bit of variety in their diet. but no, i think it's been good. marcus ryder, it has been the story, certainly in the way it's been told, of a nation united in grief. is it that simple, do you think? thank you so much for inviting me on. unfortunately, i don't think this has been britain's finest journalistic moment. for example, i work and i look at media diversity and diversity of opinions and views and all the full range, and if you look at scotland and the polls that were taken at a time of the queen'sjubilee — earlier in the year — 36% of scots did not want the monarchy

to continue. these figures are rather consistent. a year before show 37% of so it's going down a bit. if you look at young people in wales, 80% under the age of 30 did not want the monarchy to continue after the queen. now, this is not a republican or monarchist argument, but those views were not reflected in a really important constitutional moment. there was also a very important constitutional moment here, when the king was ascending to the throne, and at that point, good journalism makes sure we reflect all the views of the uk, and different parts of the uk had very different and complex relationships with the queen. i didn't see that variety and diversity being reflected. i should say the bbc said those voices were in the output.

i guess, taking on marcus's point, was it the right time to those questions? i have a lot of sympathy with what marcus has i to say and i hate it when there is a prevailing political- opinion that excludes everyl other voice, particularly one that takes the moral high ground. - i think it was during brexit, when anyone dared to - question the will of the people, and the winners' take _ were sometimes called traitorsl so i understand where marcus is coming from. what i would say in terms of the queen's death, - a woman who served selflessly, died and was going to have a funeral, - those ten days were about her funeral and the nation as it.

were saying goodbye. there was no question in my mind that in- the way that that was conducted as it were, in the public- press, that excludes a future debate about the future of the _ monarchy and the commonwealth, whether king charles will- remain head of state. all of those will be debated, but i- think it would have just done i a disservice to those who want their voices heard. that was just a completely closed period _ where we knew whati was going to happen. the woman had died, she would have a funeral, she was a - remarkable head of state and that was that. - marcus? it's not about having a debate. just as ed just said, she was a remarkable head of state. there are voices who don't think she was remarkable, and i think that the wall—to—wall coverage, which for the most part — yes,

we can point to exceptions — but for the most part were talking about how remarkable and amazing she was. people were saying how she was instrumental to bringing down apartheid. there were voices that were unchallenged. once you stray into the apartheid debate, it's very hard not to bring in the critical voices with regards to what was the role of the monarchy in africa. some of those voices were being heard in praise of the monarchy, but once you start to stray into those very contentious political waters, it's very hard — not having a debate, but making sure all the views and opinions of the uk are represented. emily bell, you are nodding. how did you judge the coverage? how different was it in the us? well, i arrived by plane overnight on sunday, so it was

very interesting coming from new york, which is full of many voices that were quite ambivalent. but a lot of them were very engaged with the debates around empire and exploitation and slavery and the role the crown played. into an environment which felt, i think, if you were covering a different country — north korea or russia — that kind of coverage of the head of state's demise, you would cover it very differently as bbc. so, it was quite a shock, even for somebody british. i do think two things can be true at the same time. i think the bbc could've done magnificently superb technical job. you can also sayjournalism went on holiday for a full

fortnight, and my feeling is marcus is right. i think something else interesting happened, which is take the queue. the queue was largely a media event. the length of the queue, the concentration of the queue, i'm fairly sure would've been different if it had not been covered in the way it was by the media outlets. i guess we'll never know. you're sort of being told how to feel and what to think, and i think there's a really interesting question. the queue became a thing in itself. everyone else was fascinated about it. did the bbc stray in that moment from being a public service

to being more of a state broadcaster? i think that's the thing that made me slightly uneasy. stefanie bolzen, what about in germany? were people interested in germany and how interested? they were certainly very, very interested on the day the queen died and then again this monday on september the 19th. four public broadcasters simultaneously showed the funeral and the procession from nine o'clock in the morning till six o'clock in the afternoon. from me being a correspondent in london, i felt overwhelmed these whole ten days. simply because this was the magnitude, if you are a correspondent in london, this is the biggest event ever. but also because you had to learn so many things, and i think i wasn't alone, a lot of british people didn't know what was going to happen next. now we see acclamation and the king is in parliament, and then scotland and the procession

from buckingham palace. it was overwhelming. it was an insight into a world, that is for sure. i think because it was so archaic at times, it was also in the queue, it was a bit stereotypical, so it transported a certain image of britain, of these amazing people who don't mind queuing 24 hours in the rain and also are unquestionably in awe of her majesty. i also share what marcus said, that at times, i wish it wasn't such a single issue and more diverse ideas. tina, a little bit earlier, emily bell talked about a dearth ofjournalism. once the queen had died, did you think this

did stop being treated as a news story and became a national event that broadcasters in the media had long planned for? yeah, i guess that's true, it felt like it was coverage of a massive event, the kind of which we just haven't seen before. and i do think that there is always that danger of the way in which the queen was spoken of as if she was canonised in some way, where this was somebody who was portrayed as somebody who was almost nonhuman. but i think that wasn't. .. i don't think that was a widespread problem. but i take what marcus was saying about if there were people trying to ascribe to her majesty responsibility for all sorts of international events in the past that was

disproportionate in terms of her contribution, if that wasn't challenged, that's a bit odd. but again, i just think overall, i think we have to see this as an event and recognise this is what it was in the coverage, the extent of it and the positive nature of that coverage was, for me, i think appropriate for the significance of the moment. but that doesn't mean, as ed has already said, that there isn't an opportunity in the future for debate about the future of the monarchy or indeed, or if there is any event or any occasion where members of the royal family conduct themselves in a way that should be subject to scrutiny, comments and criticism. butjust not over the last ten days. ed, you are nodding. i would like to talk specifically about the bbc.

it had more than 200 cameras dedicated to the funeral alone. ed, could ijust ask you whether yes, it was stunning? of course it was. more than 30 million people tuned in at some point on monday. but if we look more broadly, do you think journalism lost out to ceremony? no, i don't, and i would echo exactly what tina i said. i think this is a really - interesting discussion to have. when tina described an event, i thought about the olympics. i there's a lot we can talk about the olympics that cast the - impact on the host country, the corruption we're talking about i at the moment. but you wouldn't do iti while the olympics are on, i think that's - an interesting parallel. the bbc...

we know this government is not particularly- fond of the bbc. the bbc played pretty much of a blinder. - i suspect a lot - of us are bbc one watchers, but radio, they all have to navigate this and they can - easily have fallen over. and i gather there were easy decisions to make like not i having this style of strictly - come dancing and more difficult decisions, do you showj paddington the movie? but the bbc flexed on quite a lot of. its platforms in terms of its - content, and we think how many platforms — notjust the range of radio stations — the fact - that there hasn't been a single item that has been hailed as a| catastrophic bbc mistake.

you know people can - become tabloid fodder for messing up. i hold to my position where i completely. understand the nuances of - the other guests, and the bbc played a completely straight bat. marcus, was it a straight bat? i think there's a few things that we need to unpack. first of all, there is a narrative which is beginning to form. tina and ed have voiced this narrative that the last ten days was not the time for this debate. we can have it afterwards. there's a danger in that, in that the last ten days was a national moment. if certain people are excluded from key national moment and this is disproportionately scottish people, disproportionately

welsh people, disproportionately people of colour, if their views and opinions are disproportionately excluded from the national moment, then we're kind of saying implicitly — not deliberately — you're not really british, you haven't really caught that national moment. when the national moment has finished, we'll bring you back in. that's kind of the implicit argument that i'm beginning to hear, and it's notjust ed and tina. i've heard it from other places. yes, for the last ten days, when it was nationally important, we sidelined you, we sidelined the diversity, and then after the national moment, we bring back the diversity. unfortunately, diversity and inclusion doesn't work that way. we have to have diversity and inclusion in all its messiness at the most important times, not at the least important times. what would you say to that? i suppose on the bbc,

is there a kind of special case when it comes to the monarchy? are there different expectations for the national broadcast? i'm100% with marcus. the idea that there is a time where you don't confront the uncomfortable, as a journalist, i find that a very difficult concept. i think that marcus's point was made in an article as well. you say go elsewhere when you say that. and often, the places they end up going because they trust them more, don't necessarily have the journalistic values as the bbc or the times. but i have some sympathy. i think the bbc�*s been under tremendous political pressure and it's had a very difficult relationship with the royal family.

so, i think that this imperative to tow the line must have felt like the kind of... i think the bbc and the monarchy are lashed together in mutual anxiety at the moment. both the stories who are having quite difficult questions asked about that, saying... so i do think there is a sort of exceptionalism, but i also think they literally have the bandwidth to accommodate all of this in an elegant way and in a journalistic way. i woke up this morning to literally one of putin's advisers shouting about nuclear war, almost like we had had ten days of... jet lag! there were a number of really important things happening right now, and i think that we should have

allowed a little bit more space for those voices, but also a little bit more recognition that other really important things are happening. tina, you're notjust a conservative here, you are also very senior to bbc for ten years. i'm sure you have insights. about this point about not hearing from voices, different voices and opinions, i thought one thing that was quite striking about the bbc coverage was the fact that there was quite a lot of diversity on screen and on air, and different people who in different contexts do represent a different perspective. different historians. and mark drakeford and nicola sturgeon were interviewed. there are elected people or other people

who are renowned spokesmen who expressed different opinions who are on air. it wasn't that there wasn't that kind of diversity. but i come back to it, overall, if i looked at the performance over the last ten days compared to — when the queen mother died and i was working at the bbc then — the bbc did not get that right in the way in which it covered the queen mother's death and was quite rightly criticised for it. this was... crosstalk at the time, it was not enough. the way in which the queen mother was announced. people thought it wasn't done in a suitably respectful way. i remember, i was sat in board meetings afterwards and listening to controllers saying that in their view, there wasn't

the widespread support and respect from the monarchy. ok, i was in canada and it was huge news in canada. what can we understand about the coverage in terms of the way the world sees us. do you think the media coverage has changed how the british public sees the country? the british public? i think everything we've - discussed just now, and i don't really have an answer for - marcus, i completely accept his point. there are communities that would have felt very - excluded from these events - and they won't have changed their views of our country. and i'm afraid i'm a slightly cynical. person, so we have all this, . we're a united country, i don't believe that for a minute. we are back to .

politics in normal. and i thinking king charles i will sink or swim based on his performance as our monarch. it's gratifying to the british psyche, exceptionalism. . we haven't talked about - westminster abbey's role in all this. i can imagine the average - american thinking about where they're going to go in the summer. crosstalk emily called it national self—delusion.

i was just looking at the idea of the average american. but i do think this point about how the world looks and it's very interesting, because a lot of contemporary interest in the british monarchy comes through — both the narrative around diana, meghan markle and the crown that comes through this fictionalized version of british history. let me ask stefanie, how do people in germany view britain and did this change anything? i think the funeral is exceptional and that was something that was really the highlight. so many people, i think the market share was 50%, the funeral in germany. but i thought it was interesting and telling, how king charles was presented in germany and how many questions were asked about him. on the saturday, during the acclamation, he did this very rather rude gesture of being

very impatient about some ink pot standing on the table. i hardly didn't see it here in the uk, and that was the main thing in germany, and people are very intrigued about what this king is like. marcus, what message do you think the last ten days told us? unlike tina and ed, i'm not a politician, so i don't think i'm qualified to answer that question. i can say my concern is that the young people in wales, 80% don't want continuation of the monarchy. what is their relationship with the bbc? the communities who don't support the monarchy, what is their relationship? it's not an argument, i keep on having to reiterate, it's more how do we ensure that our— national media continues to have links with our diverse range of opinions?

tina, as a politician, what message you think the past days send out to the world about britain? i think they send out a really positive message. i think we put on display, the best of us, really. i think it's been a fantastic showcase. i think it's important that the bbc, having done so well, doesn't try and think that therefore removes any justification for a debate about its future and all the challenges that it faces, and i think to the point about diversity of audience, for sure, the bbc needs to serve everybody. everybody pays. but it also must never forget the people who have been so pleased with this coverage of the last ten days. thank you to all my guests. for now, thanks for watching. goodbye.

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sunshine and showers, mainly in the north and east. much stronger northerly wind this time on monday. temperatures at best, 15, i6 northerly wind this time on monday. temperatures at best, 15, 16 in the south, feeling colder in the north. feeling colder in the north. this is bbc news. the headlines at five... the chancellor kwasi kwarteng has defended his tax cuts aimed at boosting economic growth, saying they're fair for all, but it's receiving a mixed reaction from the public. i think it probably will help, yes, to a degree, but depends what bracket you're in of course in terms of income. i mean, does that even touch the sides? i don't know. we'll see. the labour leader sir keir starmer arrives in liverpool ahead of his party conference, telling crowds he'll set out the dividing lines between labour and the new tory government. they are basically saying that if you are very wealthy, we're going to give you more money back in pay packets, they're going to get rid of the 45p top rate of tax, they're going to give bankers bonuses.