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and commentary, was there room forjournalism? i'm joined by marcus ryder, who's head of external consultancies in the lenny henry centre for media diversity, baroness stowell, who's conservative chair of the house of lords communication and digital select committee, lord vaizey, a former culture secretary who was in the david cameron government at the time of the 2012 olympics, emily bell, professor of professional practice at the columbia university and graduate school of journalism, and stefanie bolzen is the uk correspondent of germany's die welt newspaper. welcome to you all, thank you so much for coming on the media show. and if we could start with you, tina stowell, what is your assessment of how the british media has done over the past two weeks? i think it's done a very good job, actually. i think it's reflected both the importance and the significance of the death of our monarch after 70 years�* reign. i think it has reflected the emotional reaction that there's been amongst

many people. but it's also, i think, been able to capture how britain has been on display in such a way where we've showed the best of all of us, really, and what we've been able to do is demonstrate that this is a modern country which is still a great country and is proud and is not shy in putting front and centre all that we stand for. so, ithink... you know, i understand and would be able to appreciate that, for some people, sometimes there's probably been more than they wanted — not everybody would've wanted to watch it all day, every day. even the most ardent of monarchists need to have a bit of variety in their diet. but no, i think it's been good. marcus ryder, it has been the story, certainly in the way it's been told, of a nation united in grief.

is it that simple, do you think? thank you so much for inviting me on. unfortunately, i don't think this has been britain's finest journalistic moment. for example, i work and i look at media diversity and diversity of opinions and views and all the full range, and if you look at scotland and the polls that were taken at a time of the queen'sjubilee — earlier in the year — 36% of scots did not want the monarchy to continue these figures are rather consistent. a year before show 37% of so it's going down a bit. if you look at young people in wales, 80% under the age of 30 did not want the monarchy to continue after the queen. now, this is not a republican or monarchist argument, but those views were not reflected in a really

important constitutional moment. there was also a very important constitutional moment here, when the king was ascending to the throne, and at that point, good journalism makes sure we reflect all the views of the uk and different parts of the uk had very different and complex relationships with the queen. i didn't see that variety and diversity being reflected. i should say the bbc said those voices were in the output. i guess, and of easy, taking on marcus's point, wasn't the right time to those questions, ed vaizey? i have a lot of sympathy- with what marcus has to say and i hate it when there is a prevailing political. opinion that excludes everyi other voice, particularly one that takes the moral high ground. -

i think it was during brexit, - when anyone dared to question the will of the people, and the winners' take i on what brexit should be - were sometimes called traitors so i understand where marcus is coming from _ however, what i would say- in terms of the queen's death, a woman who served her country for 70 years selflessly died - and was going to have a funeral, those ten days were about her funeral- and the nation as it. were saying goodbye. there was no question - in my mind that in the way that

done a disservice to those i who want their voices heard. that was just a completely. closed period where we knew what was going to happen. the woman had died, - she would have a funeral, she was a remarkable head of state and that was that. l marcus? it's not about having a debate. just as ed just said, she was a remarkable head of state. there are voices who don't think she was remarkable, and i think that the wall—to—wall coverage, — but for the most part were talking about how remarkable and amazing she was. there were reports on the bbc, that people are saying how she was instrumental to bringing down apartheid. there were voices that were unchallenged. once you stray into the apartheid debate, it's very hard not to bring in the critical voices,

with regards to what was the role of the monarchy in africa. some of those voices were being heard in praise of the monarchy, but once you start to stray into those very contentious political waters, it's very hard — not having a debate, but making sure all the views and opinions of the uk are represented. emily bell, you are nodding. how do you judge the coverage? how different was it in the us? well, i arrived by plane overnight on sunday, so it was very interesting coming from new york, which is full of many voices that were quite adamant. but a lot of them were very engaged with the debates around empire and exploitation and slavery and the role the crown played. into an environment which felt, i think, if you are covering a different country — north korea or russia — that kind of coverage

of the head of state's demise, you would cover it very differently. so, it was quite a shock, even for somebody british. i do think two things can be true at the same time. i think the bbc could've done magnificently superb technical job. i think hugh afterwards said —— huw edwards said she should have been given a medal. you can also sayjournalism went on holiday for a fortnight, and my feeling is marcus is right. i think something else interesting happened, which is take the queue. the queue was largely a media event. the length of the queue, the concentration of the queue,

the queue became a thing in itself. everyone else was fascinated about it. did the bbc stray in that moment from being a public service to being more of a state broadcaster? i think that's the thing that made me slightly uneasy. stefanie bolzen, what about in germany? were people interested in germany and how interested? we were certainly very, very interested on the day the queen died and then again this monday on september the 19th. four public broadcasters simultaneously showed

the funeral and the procession from nine o'clock in the morning until six o'clock in the afternoon. from me being a correspondent in london, i felt overwhelmed these whole ten days. simply because this was the magnitude, if you are a correspondent in london, this is the biggest event ever. but also it was a crash course, because you had to learn so many things, and i think i wasn't alone, a lot of british people didn't know what was going to happen next. now we see acclamation and the king is in parliament, and then scotland and the procession from buckingham palace. it was overwhelming. it was an insight into a world, that is for sure. i think because it was so archaic at times, it was also in the queue, it was a bit stereotypical, so it transported a certain image of britain, of these amazing people who don't mind

queuing 24 hours in the rain and also are unquestionably in awe of her majesty. i also share what marcus said, that at times, i wish it wasn't such a single issue and more diverse ideas and perspectives would have been shown. tina, a little bit earlier, emily bell talked about the death of journalism. once the queen had died, did you think this innocence did stop being treated as a news story and became a national event that broadcasters in the media had long planned for? yeah, i guess that's true, it felt like it was coverage of a massive event, the kind of which we just haven't seen before. and i do think that there is always that danger of the way in which the queen

was spoken of as if she was canonized in some way, where this was somebody who was portrayed as somebody who was almost non—human. but i think that it wasn't... i don't think that was a widespread problem. but i take what marcus was saying about if there were people trying to ascribe to her majesty responsibility for all sorts of international events in the past that was disproportionate in terms of her contribution, if that wasn't challenged, that's a bit odd. but again, i just think overall, i think we have to see this as an event and recognise this is what it was in the coverage, the extent of it and the positive nature of that coverage was, for me, i think appropriate

for the significance of the moment. but that doesn't mean, as ed has already said, that there isn't an opportunity in the future for debate about the future of the monarchy or indeed, or if there is any event or any occasion where members of the royal family conduct themselves in a way that should be subject to scrutiny, comments and criticism. for sure. butjust not over the last ten days. ed, you were nodding. i would like to talk specifically about the bbc. it had pulled out the stops and was responsible for filming the memorial, 200 cameras dedicated to the funeral alone. ed, could ijust ask you whether yes, it was stunning, of course it was and very popular. more than 30 million people tuned in at some point on monday. but if we look more broadly at the period of mourning,

do you thinkjournalism lost out to ceremony? no, i don't, and i would echo exactly what tina said. - i think this is a really - interesting discussion to have. and important to have. when tina described an event, i talked about the olympics. . there's lots we can talk about the olympics — l the cost, — the impact on the host country, the corruption we're talking about at the moment — - but you wouldn't do it - while the olympics are on, and i think that's - an interesting parallel. the bbc, i wonot exaggerate by saying it was it was a live i or die moment but we know this government is not particularly fond of the bbc, and there are certain outlets that are very much fond - on the bbc and the bbc played pretty much of a blinder. . i suspect a lot of us i are bbc one watchers, but radio one, six music all had — but radio one, six music all had to— but radio one, six music all had to navigate _ but radio one, six music all had to navigate this - but radio one, six music all had to navigate this and - but radio one, six music alll had to navigate this and they could — had to navigate this and they could have _ had to navigate this and they could have easily— had to navigate this and they could have easily have - had to navigate this and they could have easily have fallen| could have easily have fallen over— could have easily have fallen over and _ could have easily have fallen over and together _ could have easily have fallen over and together they- could have easily have fallenl over and together they would easy — over and together they would easy decisions— over and together they would easy decisions to _ over and together they would easy decisions to make, - over and together they would easy decisions to make, likel easy decisions to make, like not having _ easy decisions to make, like not having this _ easy decisions to make, like not having this strictly- easy decisions to make, likej not having this strictly come

dancing _ not having this strictly come dancing and _ not having this strictly come dancing and more _ not having this strictly come dancing and more difficult. dancing and more difficult decisions _ dancing and more difficult decisions i _ dancing and more difficult decisions i do _ dancing and more difficult decisions i do you - dancing and more difficult decisions i do you show. decisions i do you show paddington_ decisions i do you show paddington the - decisions i do you show paddington the movie? j but the bbc flexed on quite i a lot of its platforms in terms of its content it showed. and when you think of how many platforms — and when you think of how many platforms it _ and when you think of how many platforms it has, _ and when you think of how many platforms it has, not— and when you think of how many platforms it has, notjust - and when you think of how many platforms it has, notjust the - platforms it has, notjust the range — platforms it has, notjust the range of— platforms it has, notjust the range of radio _ platforms it has, notjust the range of radio stations, - platforms it has, notjust the range of radio stations, the i range of radio stations, the fact— range of radio stations, the fact that _ range of radio stations, the fact that the _ range of radio stations, the fact that the hasn't - range of radio stations, the fact that the hasn't been i range of radio stations, the fact that the hasn't been a i fact that the hasn't been a single _ fact that the hasn't been a single item _ fact that the hasn't been a single item which - fact that the hasn't been a single item which has- fact that the hasn't been a | single item which has been fact that the hasn't been a - single item which has been held up single item which has been held up as— single item which has been held up as a — single item which has been held up as a kind _ single item which has been held up as a kind of— single item which has been held up as a kind of catastrophic- up as a kind of catastrophic bbc— up as a kind of catastrophic bbc mistake _ up as a kind of catastrophic bbc mistake is— up as a kind of catastrophic bbc mistake is a _ up as a kind of catastrophic bbc mistake is a huge - up as a kind of catastrophic- bbc mistake is a huge testament to the _ bbc mistake is a huge testament to the organisation. _ we are in the realms, don't forget, of holly willoughby| being chastised - forjumping a queue. bear grylls in trouble for smiling _ bear grylls in trouble for smiling near— bear grylls in trouble for. smiling near the catafalque. you know people can become tablets for messing up. - i hold to my position _ where i completely understand the nuances of the other. guests, and the bbc played a completely straight bat. this was an event that started with the death of her majesty| and ended with her intern. they played it straight. marcus, was it straight? i think there's a few things

that we need to unpack. first of all, there isthe narrative which is be--innin to form. tina and ed have voiced this narrative that the last ten days was not the time for this debate. we can have it afterwards. there's a danger in that, because the last ten days was a national moment. if certain people are excluded from key national moments — and this is disproportionately scottish people, disproportionately welsh people, disproportionately people of colour — if their views and opinions are disproportionately excluded from the national moment, then we're kind of saying implicitly — not deliberately — "you're not really british. "you haven't really caught that national moment. "when the national moment has finished, we'll bring "you back in." that's kind of the implicit argument that i'm beginning to hear, and it's not just ed and tina —

i've heard it from other places. that yes, for the last ten days, when it was nationally important, we sidelined you, we sidelined the diversity and then, after the national moment, we bring back the diversity. unfortunately, diversity and inclusion doesn't work that way. we have to have diversity and inclusion in all its messiness at the most important times, not at the least important times. what would you say to that? i suppose on the bbc, is there a kind of special case when it comes to the monarchy? when it comes to the corporation and are they different expectations for the national broadcaster? i'm100% with marcus. the idea that there is a time where you don't confront the uncomfortable as a journalist, ifind that a very difficult concept. and a wrong concept.

i think that marcus's point — and he made this in an excellent article as well — people say go elsewhere when you say that. and often, the places they end up going because they trust them more, don't necessarily have the journalistic values as the bbc or the times. but i have some sympathy. i think the bbc�*s been under tremendous political pressure and it's had a very difficult relationship with the royal family. so, i think that this imperative to tow the line must —— toe the line must have felt like the kind of — i think the bbc and the monarchy are lashed together individual existential anxiety at the moment. there are these storied institutions who are having quite difficult questions asked about them, saying about the future, so i think the result of a sort of exceptionalism but i also think they literally have the

bandwidth to accommodate all of this in an elegant way and in a journalistic way by —— i woke up journalistic way by —— i woke up this morning to literally one of printed's advisors shutting about nuclear war and it was almost like we had had ten days of serenity —— putin's. i ten days of serenity -- putin's— ten days of serenity -- putin's. ., ., , ., ., putin's. i love that you are staying up _ putin's. i love that you are staying up late. _ putin's. i love that you are staying up late. that - putin's. i love that you are staying up late. that was i staying up late. that was definitely after eight o'clock, wasn't it?— definitely after eight o'clock, wasn't it? ., , wasn't it? there were a number of really important _ wasn't it? there were a number of really important things - of really important things happening in the world right now and i think that we should have allowed a little bit more space for those voices but also a little bit more recognition that other really important things are happening right now. tina, i am going to bring you in because you are notjust a conservative pier, you are seeing at the bbc for ten years and an advisor to chairman and i'm sure you have ideas.- i'm sure you have ideas. about this point _ i'm sure you have ideas. about this point about _ i'm sure you have ideas. about this point about not _ i'm sure you have ideas. about this point about not hearing . this point about not hearing from voices, different kinds of voices and opinions over the last ten days, one of the

things which was quite striking about the bbc�*s coverage was the fact that there was a lot of diversity on screen and on air and different people who, in different contexts, represent a different perspective. you know, different historians or can you know, i saw some raulian one. exactly. mark drakeford, nicola sturgeon were interviewed. they are elected people or other people who are renowned spokesmen who expressed differences of perspective, who were on air. so it wasn't that there wasn't that sort of kind of diversity. i come back to, i think overall if i look at the bbc�*s performance over the last ten days compared to, i mean, it's not of the same scalpel in the queen mother died for instance and i was working at the bbc then, the bbc did not get that right in the way in which it covered the queen's

mother's death at that time and was quite rightly criticised for it. ., ., . was quite rightly criticised for it. ., ., . ., ., for it. too much, too little? at the time, _ for it. too much, too little? at the time, it _ for it. too much, too little? at the time, it was - for it. too much, too little? at the time, it was not - for it. too much, too little? - at the time, it was not enough. right. at the time, it was not enough. richt. ., , . right. the way in which the death of the _ right. the way in which the death of the queen - right. the way in which the death of the queen motherj right. the way in which the - death of the queen mother was announced, people felt it was not done in a suitably respectful way. and, you know, i remember, iwas respectful way. and, you know, i remember, i was a satin board meetings afterwards and listening to controllers saying that in their view, there was not the widespread support and respect for the monarchy now as there was. respect for the monarchy now as there was— there was. crosstalk. iwas in canada then _ there was. crosstalk. iwas in canada then and _ there was. crosstalk. iwas in canada then and it _ there was. crosstalk. iwas in canada then and it was - there was. crosstalk. iwas in canada then and it was huge . canada then and it was huge news in canada, i remember, which brings me nicely i hope onto what i would like to talk about now, which is what we can understand from the coverage, notjust understand from the coverage, not just about how we see ourselves but how the world sees us. and, do you think the media's coverage of the funeral has changed first of all how the british public seized the country?

“ sees. —— sees. i don't really have an answer. — —— sees. i don't really have an answer. i_ —— sees. i don't really have an answer, i completely accept the point _ answer, i completely accept the point he — answer, i completely accept the point he is making but there are communities in this country who— are communities in this country who would _ are communities in this country who would have felt very excluded from these events and they won't necessarily have changed their view of our country— changed their view of our country but, and i am afraid i am a— country but, and i am afraid i am a slightly cynical person so we have — am a slightly cynical person so we have had this we are united country— we have had this we are united country and scottish independence will disappear overnight but i don't believe that— overnight but i don't believe that for— overnight but i don't believe that for a minute and i think we're — that for a minute and i think we're back to politics as normal— we're back to politics as normal in spades so i don't think— normal in spades so i don't think it's _ normal in spades so i don't think it's fundamentally changed people's view of the country— changed people's view of the country and i thinking child's or single _ country and i thinking child's or single swing based on his performance —— king charles will— performance —— king charles will sink— performance —— king charles will sink or— performance —— king charles will sink or swing. i think it is down _ will sink or swing. i think it is down to— will sink or swing. i think it is down to british psyche, british— is down to british psyche, british exceptionalism that hundreds of countries around the world did multiple coverage of the _ the world did multiple coverage of the state funeral and i spoke _ of the state funeral and i spoke to people on various media _ spoke to people on various media outlet think an economy denmark, _ media outlet think an economy denmark, spain and that was great — denmark, spain and that was great and _ denmark, spain and that was great and perhaps even cruder in terms — great and perhaps even cruder in terms of a marketing campaign for the

in terms of a marketing campaign forthe uk, we have not talked about westminster abbey's — not talked about westminster abbey's rolled in all of this, it looked _ abbey's rolled in all of this, it looked stunning, i can imagine _ it looked stunning, i can imagine the average american thinking — imagine the average american thinking about where they will io thinking about where they will go and — thinking about where they will go and someone thinking i would love to _ go and someone thinking i would love to go — go and someone thinking i would love to go see where the queen's— love to go see where the queen's funeral was held. emily. _ queen's funeral was held. emily. i— queen's funeral was held. emily, i think, queen's funeral was held. emily, ithink, emily queen's funeral was held. emily, i think, emily called at national... crosstalk. national self—delusion. i national. .. crosstalk. national self-delusion.— self-delusion. i was laughing at the idea — self-delusion. i was laughing at the idea of _ self-delusion. i was laughing at the idea of the _ self-delusion. i was laughing at the idea of the average - at the idea of the average american. _ at the idea of the average american, i— at the idea of the average american, i think- at the idea of the average american, i think maybe i at the idea of the average . american, i think maybe it's view— american, i think maybe it's view of— american, i think maybe it's view of the _ american, i think maybe it's view of the adjective - american, i think maybe it's. view of the adjective american is a slightly— view of the adjective american is a slightly different - view of the adjective american is a slightly different than - is a slightly different than the world _ is a slightly different than the world of— is a slightly different than the world of westminster| is a slightly different than - the world of westminster abbey and in _ the world of westminster abbey and in fact— the world of westminster abbey and in fact somewhat _ the world of westminster abbey. and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of— and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of the — and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of the market _ and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of the market but— and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of the market but i- and in fact somewhat somewhere wide of the market but i do- wide of the market but i do think— wide of the market but i do think there _ wide of the market but i do think there is _ wide of the market but i do think there is a _ wide of the market but i do think there is a point - wide of the market but i do think there is a point aboutj think there is a point about how— think there is a point about how the _ think there is a point about how the world _ think there is a point about how the world looks - think there is a point about how the world looks and i think there is a point about l how the world looks and that think there is a point about - how the world looks and that is interesting _ how the world looks and that is interesting the _ how the world looks and that is interesting the american - interesting the american perspective _ interesting the american perspective because - interesting the american perspective because a i interesting the americanl perspective because a lot actuallv _ perspective because a lot actuallv of _ perspective because a lot actually of contemporaryl actually of contemporary interest _ actually of contemporary interest in _ actually of contemporary interest in the _ actually of contemporary interest in the british - interest in the british monarchy— interest in the british monarchy comes- interest in the british - monarchy comes through both from _ monarchy comes through both from the — monarchy comes through both from the narrative _ monarchy comes through both from the narrative around - from the narrative around diana. _ from the narrative around diana. the _ from the narrative around diana, the interviews- from the narrative around j diana, the interviews that meghan— diana, the interviews that meghan markle _ diana, the interviews that meghan markle gives - diana, the interviews that| meghan markle gives and, diana, the interviews that. meghan markle gives and, of course, — meghan markle gives and, of course, the _ meghan markle gives and, of course, the crown, _ meghan markle gives and, of course, the crown, it - meghan markle gives and, of| course, the crown, it actually comes— course, the crown, it actually comes through _ course, the crown, it actually comes through this _ comes through this fictionalised - comes through this| fictionalised version comes through this i fictionalised version of british— fictionalised version of british history- fictionalised version of british history in - fictionalised version of british history in the l fictionalised version of. british history in the first place _ british history in the first lace. . , ~

british history in the first lace, ., , ~' ., place. let me ask for the end, stefanie. _ place. let me ask for the end, stefanie, how— place. let me ask for the end, stefanie, how do _ place. let me ask for the end, stefanie, how do people - place. let me ask for the end, stefanie, how do people viewl stefanie, how do people view britain in germany and the funeral broadcast change how we are viewed? i funeral broadcast change how we are viewed?— are viewed? i think the funeral is exceptional _ are viewed? i think the funeral is exceptional and _ are viewed? i think the funeral is exceptional and there - are viewed? i think the funeral is exceptional and there was i is exceptional and there was something that was really the highlight and so many people, i think, the market share was 50% on the day of the broadcasting of the funeral in broome —— germany and i think it was interesting and striking and telling, how the king, king charles was presented in germany and how many questions were actually asked about him and if you remember on the saturday, doing the acclamation, he did a really rather rude gesture of being very impatient about some ink pots standing on the table and i hardly did not see it here in the uk and that was the main thing, at least back in germany, and people are very intrigued about what this king is like, what is going to be. and, marcus, what message do you think the last ten or 12 days or whatever it was has sent out about britain to the world? ~ .

sent out about britain to the world? ~' ., ., sent out about britain to the world? ,, ., ., ., world? unlike tina and ed, i am not a politician _ world? unlike tina and ed, i am not a politician so _ world? unlike tina and ed, i am not a politician so i _ world? unlike tina and ed, i am not a politician so i really - not a politician so i really don't think i am qualified to answer the question but what i can say is that my concern is that the young people in wales 80% do not want continuation of the monarchy. what is their relationship with the bbc? communities didn't support the monarchy, what is their relationship after those ten days? that's my concern. it's not a republican or a monarchist argument, i keep having to reiterate how do we ensure that our national media continues to have strong links with a diverse range of opinions in communities throughout the uk? n opinions in communities throughout the uk? i will ask ou that throughout the uk? i will ask you that tina _ throughout the uk? i will ask you that tina is _ throughout the uk? i will ask you that tina is a _ throughout the uk? i will ask you that tina is a politician, l you that tina is a politician, what message do you think the past days send out about britain to the world? i past days send out about britain to the world? i think they send — britain to the world? i think they send out _ britain to the world? i think they send out a _ britain to the world? i think they send out a really - britain to the world? i think. they send out a really positive message about britain to the world. i think we have put on display, as i sit at the start, the best of us, really, and i think it has been a fantastic showcase. i think it is important that the bbc, having done so well over the last ten days, doesn't try to sort of think that therefore removes

any justification for a debate about its future and all of the challenges that it faces. and i think to the point about diversity, for sure, the bbc needs to serve everybody, everybody pays, it also must never forget the people who have been so pleased with this coverage over the past ten days because they too feel often that they are not understood and not properly presented on the bbc these days.— and not properly presented on the bbc these days. most of the anel for the bbc these days. most of the panel for peeple _ the bbc these days. most of the panel for people on _ the bbc these days. most of the panel for people on the - the bbc these days. most of the panel for people on the radio . panel for people on the radio now are nodding at that point and it is a good moment to end it. thank you to all of my guest. watching. goodbye. —— thank you for watching. hello. it's set to get colder for all of us over the next few days, although that said, lowest temperatures likely to be sunday morning. with light winds, we could see a touch of frost in some rural parts to begin the day, a few mist and fog patches, too. they will quickly clear and for most, a chilly start

to sunday but a lovely, sunny one. isolated shower, too, over norfolk and suffolk, the channel islands, and as cloud builds in the north and the west through the days, a few showers will crop up here and there. most, though, will be dry. the exception as the winds strengthen will be the north—west of scotland — a band of heavy rain quickly sweeping across these areas by the end of the afternoon. temperatures for all down on what we've seen through recent days, aided and abetted by that strengthening wind. now, those winds will go north—westerly as we go into sunday evening. that band of rain through the evening, scotland, northern ireland, pushes through quite quickly, then clear skies and showers and then, that rain spreads its way southwards across much of england and wales, too, into monday morning. now, it's actually going to be very cold on monday morning but it probably won't feel as chillyjust because of the strength of the wind, and that wind will be a key feature because as we go into monday and, indeed, tuesday, it's coming down from the north and north—west, feeding with it air that's come all the way from the arctic. now, you've got to remember it's september, so in the sunnier moments, it probably won't feel too bad out there but when you're

in the showers — and there should be plenty around on monday — it will feel distinctly chilly. those showers spreading southwards and eastwards across the country quite rapidly, so ever—changing skies. early rain on the south coast clears to allow a sunnier day but around the coasts, it's where we'll see some of the strongest of the winds, gusting 40, maybe 50 mph, and that will make it feel colder than these temperatures suggest. and just note on the thermometers — only around nine degrees in aberdeen, so it will feel even colder than that. a chilly day to come on tuesday as well. a slight shift in wind direction means some eastern areas of england will have a much brighter day. showers in the north and the west, maybe some longer spells of rain sliding through ireland, clipping south—west wales and in towards cornwall. temperatures here maybe up to around 15 or 16 degrees but only around 10 to m degrees for many on tuesday. a chilly night will follow. rain towards that south—west corner will clear and winds will fall lighter, then, for wednesday and thursday as the area of low pressure gradually pulls away. but it's still going to be on the chilly side — temperatures only in the teens and there will be some further rain at times, too, before the winds strengthen

later on friday. see you later. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with ben thompson and victoria fritz. our headlines today: labour sets out plans to make uk's electricity network carbon—free by 2030, as the party's annual conference gets underway in liverpool. a british man captured by russian forces in ukraine and kept in solitary confinement for five months speaks for the first time about his ordeal. houses have been washed into the sea and hundreds of thousands of people

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