and, of course, abba won eurovision. now manchester is hoping for a eurovision win of its own. colin paterson, bbc news. time for a look at the weather. here's sarah keith—lucas. before i get to the uk focused, things look really active in the tropics, both the atlantic and pacific. this typhoon is in the south china sea, it has moved across the philippines with devastating flooding and really damaging winds and it is shortly heading towards the coast of vietnam where it will bring a large storm surge inundation around the coast and winds of over 100 mph. it is not the only major storm, this is the category three hurricane ian which has made

landfall in recent hours in western cuba, bringing winds of up to 125 mph. it is heading north, florida is bracing for man is full on thursday. it will bring a storm surge up to ten feet around the tampa bay region, half a metre of rainfall and winds other road 120 mph, so really dangerous conditions with both of those storms. closer to home, typically autumnal, lots of rainbows because we have the mix of sunny spells in blustery showers staying with those for the rest of the day. low pressure towards the east at the moment is driving and showers for part of eastern scotland, heading south into eastern england and there will also be rain towards the south—west, so for the likes of cornwall towards the channel islands, more prolonged spells of rain, sunny intervals elsewhere and peppering a fairly heavy showers, winds of 30 to a0 mph but not so

windy as over the past 2a hours also. temperatures between about 11 and 16, feeling cool by you are exposed to the brisk north—westerly wind. showers ease overnight for most events but continue around some coastal areas, quite a chilly night, temperatures down to about three to 8 degrees, could be a touch of frost in rural areas towards the north but probably frost free for most of us. tomorrow we have a low pressure close to the east of the uk, another day of sunshine and showers but fewer compared to yesterday and today. winter a little lighter. more persistent rain for part of eastern scotland and north—east england later, perhaps the chewable of thunderbird temperatures 12 to 16 so it will feel warmer with the lighter winds and more sunshine. reasonably quiet on thursday, still i few showers filtering on the breeze but a quieter day, more sunshine, a

touch warmer by thursday, prepare for heavyweight into friday, though. thank you, sarah. a reminder of our top story... dozens of banks and building societies had stopped mortgage offers after a fall in the pound stoked the potential for a steep rise in interest rates. that's all from the bbc news at one, so it's goodbye from me, and on bbc one we nowjoin the bbc�*s news teams where you are. good afternoon scotland can get promoted in the nation sleep tonight if they avoid to beat against ukraine in poland. do that then they will also be assured of a play—off spot for euro 202a. they beat ukraine and the republic of ireland in the last week to put themselves

in the last week to put themselves in this position. there has been a virus within the scottish camp. several players from manager feels the is manager feels the is with 1ager feels the is with them. eels the is with them. i els the is with them. i thinke is with them. i think the momentum is with them. i think the -la ers momentum is with them. i think the players have — momentum is with them. i think the players have shown _ momentum is with them. i think the players have shown what _ momentum is with them. i think the players have shown what i _ momentum is with them. i think the players have shown what i have - momentum is with them. i think the players have shown what i have said j players have shown what i have said for a long time, that they are determined to do well for their country. the connection between the scottish public and the squad of players is as good as it has been for a long, long time. that is very important for us. everybody likes to feel loved, so when you feel you have that support from the scottish public the players feel good for themselves. ian public the players feel good for themselves.— public the players feel good for themselves. . ., ., , themselves. ian barraclough has called on the _ themselves. ian barraclough has called on the northern _ themselves. ian barraclough has called on the northern irish - themselves. ian barraclough has i called on the northern irish players to take care of business against greece and not let the threat of nation's league relegation impact them. they go into their final group game in the third after ending a ia game in the third after ending a ia game winless run in the competition by beating kosovo on saturday. jonny

evans will captain the side on his 100th international. he will be only the fourth northern irishman to reach the century. it’s the fourth northern irishman to reach the century.— reach the century. it's a great milestone _ reach the century. it's a great milestone to _ reach the century. it's a great milestone to get _ reach the century. it's a great milestone to get to. - reach the century. it's a great milestone to get to. i - reach the century. it's a great| milestone to get to. i wouldn't reach the century. it's a great - milestone to get to. i wouldn't say it can compare to playing big games and winning big games and the emotion of that, but it is a big milestone and it is something i have had my eye on for a number of years now and i'm glad to finally be there. ., _ , there. gareth southgate says the scrutiny and _ there. gareth southgate says the scrutiny and criticism _ there. gareth southgate says the scrutiny and criticism his - there. gareth southgate says the scrutiny and criticism his side - there. gareth southgate says the l scrutiny and criticism his side have based could help them in the world cup. england have already been relegated from the nation's league top tier i had at last night was my three all draw with germany at wembley and they are now without a win in three games. england full—back from 2—0 down and that is given garrets gave cause for optimism. given garrets gave cause for optimism-— given garrets gave cause for otimism. , ., _, . , optimism. they have collectively talked as a _

optimism. they have collectively talked as a group _ optimism. they have collectively talked as a group and _ optimism. they have collectively talked as a group and the - optimism. they have collectively talked as a group and the whole | talked as a group and the whole experience has been one we needed, i think to grow as a team. you are going to have pressure in a world cup. you can try and avoid pressure but it is coming. maybe it is the third group game, whatever it might be, it is coming. better that we feel it and learn how to deal with it. , ., feel it and learn how to deal with it. u, , ., ., feel it and learn how to deal with it. the captain of worcester warriors — it. the captain of worcester warriors has _ it. the captain of worcester warriors has called - it. the captain of worcester warriors has called for - it. the captain of worcester i warriors has called for greater scrutiny on club owners to rugby union. worcester have been put into administration yesterday and now face relegation. this side failed to provide proof of a financially stable future. the main�*s team have been banned from the premiership competition, and the woman's side have been banned from the fifteens. there need to be closer looks at

people who are going to buy clubs. people need to look into that rigorously. i know they do, but it is something that needs to be focused on even more because this isn't something that people want to happen again. they want their clubs, which are massive parts of the community, safe and be able to be the best they can be. if community, safe and be able to be the best they can be.— community, safe and be able to be the best they can be. if you head to the best they can be. if you head to the bbc sport _ the best they can be. if you head to the bbc sport website _ the best they can be. if you head to the bbc sport website you - the best they can be. if you head to the bbc sport website you can - the best they can be. if you head to the bbc sport website you can find | the best they can be. if you head to | the bbc sport website you can find a link to the latest rugby union weekly podcast, which looks in—depth at the situation at worcester warriors. that is it from me for the moment. more now on the chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, coming under renewed pressure after a fall in the value of the pound. sterling's price has now steadied on the foreign exchange markets after slumping to an all—time low against the us dollar on monday. the bank of england has said it would not hesitate to raise rates to keep inflation in check,

but sir charlie bean, who was a deputy governor until 201a, says he would have gone further. he was speaking to nick robinson on bbc radio a. the bank, are, ithink, rightly, reluctant to have emergency meetings every time there is turmoil in financial markets. there have been occasions, certainly after lehman's collapsed, we had an out—of—cycle meeting to cut rates, along with other central banks. that said, i think, on this occasion, if i had still been at the bank in my role as deputy governor, i certainly would have been counselling the governor that i think this is one of the occasions where it might have made sense. um, the... even though the very calling of the meeting, the very talk of an emergency measure, would create its own instability? well, the key thing is if you call it, you have to take significant action.

work is under way to remove the floral tributes left in london's parks to honour queen elizabeth. thousands of bouquets have been taken to kensington palace gardens to be used as compost, as luxmy gopal reports. an outpouring of grief and love for the queen. a carpet of flowers and tributes. a week on from her late majesty's funeral, this fragrant shrine at green park will in turn give new flowers life, after a fitting final horse—drawn journey. all of our green waste in the royal parks tends to get composted, shredded and then composted, and reused in all of our flower beds and shrub beds across all the royal parks. and we thought it would be a fitting tribute that all of these floral tributes will be used all across the royal parks — indeed in front of the flower beds in front of buckingham palace, as well. the first step is sorting

the flowers from the rest. a team of around 100 volunteers carefully separates non—floral tributes. i'm just cleaning up all the bits of paper that have been left between all the cards. all the toys, as well. i think one of the sweetest things was a little pair of boots and a little paddington bear and some diamond — some spoons, as well, from the diamond jubilee. those items are taken aside, dried and stored until it's decided how best to use them. for alessandra donebauer from battersea, joining the volunteer effort helps honour the queen's memory. i think the outpouring for the queen during this time has been so... it's been so beautiful. and there's so much kind energy amongst the people here. the next step is carried out by two shire horses — heath and nobby. they appeared at the royal windsor horse show for the platinum jubilee earlier this year. they'll be pulling a flatbed dray — a traditional open cart. these shire horses are often seen helping to plough the land at the royal parks, helping to manage

the windflower meadows. they're better for the environment than machinery, as they have less of an impact on the earth. but today they've got a slightly different task — transporting the flowers on the next stage of their journey. seven cities across the uk are in the running to host next year's eurovision song contest. we have been taking a closer look at each of those city's chances. ahead of an expected update from the bbc on the next stage of the process, david sillito has been to liverpool. all: three, two, one! liverpool! welcome to bingo lingo in liverpool. sort of a rave with a bit of bingo on the side. who's ready to play some bingo?! and i was here to talk eurovision — specifically, which city should it be held in next year? you might not be surprised at the answer i got. liverpool was built on community.

on pride. on strength. we are the best city in the uk. this is an amazing city. the city of culture. it's the best place to go for the culture. it should be liverpool. you're not from liverpool, though. i'm not from liverpool. i'm from cardiff. but liverpool is the city aiming... tonight's bingo is being filmed by the bbc. cheering. but liverpool does think it has a special case. a city that was transformed by being european capital of culture. this is such a cultural city. it's like you can't go anywhere without meeting someone from somewhere in europe. give us a cheer! cheering. for me, it's eurovision every single weekend here. - liverpool knows how to throw a party and also, of course, it is a real city of music. but there's also something else — the connection with ukraine. translated:

this is an official endorsement of liverpool by its twin city, odesa, in ukraine. translated: and we also spoke to kharkiv�*s prime orchestra. kharkiv is, like liverpool, a unesco city of music. probably liverpool will proudly present ukraine in this really huge event, and we really believe that it would be just great. liverpool is also these days a huge tourist town. the docks are now a destination that feel purpose—built for a party. the plan, if you get it, would be to... what would you have here? this would be full of eurovision. so this would be the stages. this would be the party, this would be the village. this would be where the kind of, everything apart

from the main event in the arena happens. this is where the fun bit will be. where the fun bit will be. you're looking quite excited. i am really excited. of course i'm excited. it's eurovision. there is absolutely everything to be excited about. do you think you stand a chance? oh, gosh, yeah. i mean, liverpool and eurovision are kind of made for each other. meanwhile, back at bingo lingo, they were getting into the eurovision mood with sam ryder�*s spaceman. # i'm up in space, man..#. and at the end of the evening i had a chat to emelia from hartlepool. if you were going to choose a city for eurovision? it's got to be here. the atmosphere is a party, always, here. don't you think? liverpool, get your torches out! i think we can safely say when it comes to eurovision, the city is more than up for it. david sillito, bbc news, liverpool. # i'm up in space, man...#

the chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, has told city investors he is confident in long—term growth after markets reacted badly after his mini budget on friday. let's go to liverpool live. how will he pivot the party and his leadership to face the new political and economic realities?

joining me this afternoon... times radio presenter columnist and former labour adviser ayesha hazarika, the spectator�*s deputy political editor katy balls and shadow foreign secretary david lammy. keir starmer arrived at the conference centre a little while ago. this is the scene at the moment, as delegates gather to hear from the labour leader in about a quarter of an hour. keir starmer arrived at the conference centre to huge applause little while ago with his wife victoria. he will echo the words of tony blair saying the labour party is the political wing of the british people. he'll accuse the tories of loosing control of the british economy and say labour is now the party of "sound money". welcome to our second programme to, taking in keir starmer�*s of second

in—person speech since he became leader. david, what has he got to say today? i leader. david, what has he got to say today?— leader. david, what has he got to sa toda ? ~' ., , ., say today? i think we need a vision that is an alternative _ say today? i think we need a vision that is an alternative to _ say today? i think we need a vision that is an alternative to what - say today? i think we need a vision that is an alternative to what we i that is an alternative to what we have seen from liz truss in the last few days, clearly it is an economic vision about how we are productive, how we get growth, how we get skills, centred on a green economic plan which was set out by ed miliband and built on by rachel reeves on monday. it is a very exciting prospect. find reeves on monday. it is a very exciting prospect.— reeves on monday. it is a very exciting prospect. and so you really do want to hear— exciting prospect. and so you really do want to hear more _ exciting prospect. and so you really do want to hear more than - exciting prospect. and so you really do want to hear more than just - exciting prospect. and so you really do want to hear more than just a i do want to hear more than just a critique, as we have heard, legitimately, from labour party politicians, about the conservative government? there has got to be something more proactive, for you? i am very confident, jo, that the british public will look at this speech and they will be left with an alternative. they will be very clear what a labour government would mean for them and their families, what a labour government would mean for them and theirfamilies, if what a labour government would mean for them and their families, if they put their trust in us at the next general election.— put their trust in us at the next general election. chris, how have ou general election. chris, how have you found — general election. chris, how have you found it— general election. chris, how have you found it over _ general election. chris, how have you found it over the _ general election. chris, how have you found it over the last - general election. chris, how have you found it over the last couple l general election. chris, how have. you found it over the last couple of days? for me, there is a change, a

definite change, there is a mood of confidence for the first time in many, many years. how do you think they are going to be able to turn that into any sort of electoral reality? i that into any sort of electoral reali ? ~ , that into any sort of electoral reali ? ~' , ., ., ., that into any sort of electoral reali ? ~' , ., ., reality? i think there is a mood of confidence _ reality? i think there is a mood of confidence and _ reality? i think there is a mood of confidence and if _ reality? i think there is a mood of confidence and if you _ reality? i think there is a mood of confidence and if you want - reality? i think there is a mood of confidence and if you want to - reality? i think there is a mood of i confidence and if you want to define a positive _ confidence and if you want to define a positive by the absence of a negative _ a positive by the absence of a negative from the perspective of the party, _ negative from the perspective of the party, there is not that prospect, as a senior— party, there is not that prospect, as a senior figure said to me the other_ as a senior figure said to me the other night, of a fight breaking out in the _ other night, of a fight breaking out in the corner at any moment, which at labour— in the corner at any moment, which at labour conferences over the last five or— at labour conferences over the last five or six— at labour conferences over the last five or six years, there hasn't been — five or six years, there hasn't been. there seems to be a bit more unity— been. there seems to be a bit more unity of— been. there seems to be a bit more unity of purpose and focus on an election— unity of purpose and focus on an election which might not be that many— election which might not be that many months or years away. so, there is that, _ many months or years away. so, there is that, and _ many months or years away. so, there is that, and then i think a confidence particularly born of what we have _ confidence particularly born of what we have seen in the last few days, but i _ we have seen in the last few days, but i think— we have seen in the last few days, but i think it — we have seen in the last few days, but i think it was there anyway, to tilt towards — but i think it was there anyway, to tilt towards talking explicitly about — tilt towards talking explicitly about the economy, and in the past the economy as an issue has been something — the economy as an issue has been something of an achilles heel for labour— something of an achilles heel for labour if— something of an achilles heel for labour if you look at opinion polls and how— labour if you look at opinion polls and how plenty of people would perceive — and how plenty of people would perceive labour economically, they are absolutely leaning into that

because — are absolutely leaning into that because they feel confident of their own mission, as i think we will hear keir starmer— own mission, as i think we will hear keir starmer talk about it, and of course _ keir starmer talk about it, and of course what is happening in the markets — course what is happening in the markets and with the government. we. have markets and with the government. have heard markets and with the government. - have heard about economic competence, rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, has talked ahead of sir keir starmer, saying, you can trust us with the economy. but what would a labour government do, david, in the first 100 days or so, what would be the one big idea which would be the one big idea which would be the one big idea which would be transformative for people? by would be transformative for people? by the time we get a labour government, they won't have fixed the nhs, i think the public will be clamouring to see a reduction in those cues particularly on cancer wait took over, and to see a gp, two weeks is not going to be sufficient, expect to hear that from a labour government as an example of what we will do. do government as an example of what we will do. ,, ~ ., will do. do you think it has changed. _ will do. do you think it has changed. in _ will do. do you think it has changed, in terms - will do. do you think it has changed, in terms of- will do. do you think it has changed, in terms of the l changed, in terms of the atmosphere here, ayesha, fights in every corner that might have broken out at conferences in the past, you think ideology has been shunned to some extent while the party focuses on winning? extent while the party focuses on winninu? ~ , .,

winning? absolutely. the atmosphere here is like one _ winning? absolutely. the atmosphere here is like one i _ winning? absolutely. the atmosphere here is like one i don't _ winning? absolutely. the atmosphere here is like one i don't think _ winning? absolutely. the atmosphere here is like one i don't think i - here is like one i don't think i have — here is like one i don't think i have ever— here is like one i don't think i have ever experienced - here is like one i don't think i have ever experienced at - here is like one i don't think i have ever experienced at a i here is like one i don't think i- have ever experienced at a labour conference. — have ever experienced at a labour conference. i_ have ever experienced at a labour conference, i have _ have ever experienced at a labour conference, i have been _ have ever experienced at a labour conference, i have been coming i have ever experienced at a labour| conference, i have been coming to labour— conference, i have been coming to labour conferences _ conference, i have been coming to labour conferences since - conference, i have been coming to labour conferences since 2005, i conference, i have been coming to. labour conferences since 2005, and there _ labour conferences since 2005, and there has— labour conferences since 2005, and there has always _ labour conferences since 2005, and there has always been _ labour conferences since 2005, and there has always been trouble, - labour conferences since 2005, and there has always been trouble, it i labour conferences since 2005, and there has always been trouble, it is| there has always been trouble, it is like a _ there has always been trouble, it is like a sort — there has always been trouble, it is like a sort of— there has always been trouble, it is like a sort of christmas _ there has always been trouble, it is like a sort of christmas edition - there has always been trouble, it is like a sort of christmas edition of i like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, _ like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, there _ like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, there is _ like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, there is always - like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, there is always a - like a sort of christmas edition of eastenders, there is always a lot| like a sort of christmas edition of i eastenders, there is always a lot of drama. _ eastenders, there is always a lot of drama. a _ eastenders, there is always a lot of drama. a lot — eastenders, there is always a lot of drama. a lot of— eastenders, there is always a lot of drama, a lot of beef, _ eastenders, there is always a lot of drama, a lot of beef, a _ eastenders, there is always a lot of drama, a lot of beef, a lot- eastenders, there is always a lot of drama, a lot of beef, a lot of- drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama. — drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama. and— drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama, and it— drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama, and it hasn't - drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama, and it hasn't felt - drama, a lot of beef, a lot of drama, and it hasn't felt likej drama, a lot of beef, a lot of- drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the _ drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the extent _ drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the extent where _ drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the extent where a _ drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the extent where a very- drama, and it hasn't felt like that, to the extent where a very seniorl to the extent where a very senior member— to the extent where a very senior member of— to the extent where a very senior member of keir— to the extent where a very senior member of keir starmer's- to the extent where a very senior member of keir starmer's team i member of keir starmer's team actually— member of keir starmer's team actually said _ member of keir starmer's team actually said to _ member of keir starmer's team actually said to me, _ member of keir starmer's team actually said to me, it's - member of keir starmer's team actually said to me, it's really. actually said to me, it's really strange, _ actually said to me, it's really strange, i_ actually said to me, it's really strange, l was _ actually said to me, it's really strange, i was expecting - actually said to me, it's really. strange, i was expecting drama, there _ strange, i was expecting drama, there isn't— strange, i was expecting drama, there isn't drama, _ strange, i was expecting drama, there isn't drama, i— strange, i was expecting drama, there isn't drama, i don't - strange, i was expecting drama, there isn't drama, i don't know. strange, i was expecting drama, - there isn't drama, i don't know what to do— there isn't drama, i don't know what to do with _ there isn't drama, i don't know what to do with myself! _ there isn't drama, i don't know what to do with myself! but _ there isn't drama, i don't know what to do with myself! but having - there isn't drama, i don't know what to do with myself! but having said i to do with myself! but having said that, _ to do with myself! but having said that, i_ to do with myself! but having said that, l think— to do with myself! but having said that, i think the _ to do with myself! but having said that, i think the danger— to do with myself! but having said that, i think the danger for- to do with myself! but having said that, i think the danger for the . that, i think the danger for the party— that, i think the danger for the party is — that, i think the danger for the party is to— that, i think the danger for the party is to not— that, i think the danger for the party is to not slip _ that, i think the danger for the party is to not slip into - party is to not slip into complacency, - party is to not slip into complacency, becausej party is to not slip into - complacency, because polls are looking — complacency, because polls are looking good, _ complacency, because polls are looking good, there _ complacency, because polls are looking good, there is - complacency, because polls are looking good, there is a - complacency, because polls are looking good, there is a feeling| complacency, because polls are i looking good, there is a feeling of purpose. — looking good, there is a feeling of purpose, business _ looking good, there is a feeling of purpose, business is _ looking good, there is a feeling of purpose, business is back- looking good, there is a feeling of purpose, business is back at- looking good, there is a feeling of purpose, business is back at this. purpose, business is back at this conference. _ purpose, business is back at this conference, but— purpose, business is back at this conference, but what _ purpose, business is back at this conference, but what i— purpose, business is back at this conference, but what i am - purpose, business is back at this conference, but what i am going| purpose, business is back at this i conference, but what i am going to be looking — conference, but what i am going to be looking for. _ conference, but what i am going to be looking for, and _ conference, but what i am going to be looking for, and many— conference, but what i am going to be looking for, and many other. be looking for, and many other people. — be looking for, and many other people. it _ be looking for, and many other people. it is— be looking for, and many other people, it is not _ be looking for, and many other people, it is notjust_ be looking for, and many other people, it is notjust to - be looking for, and many other people, it is notjust to definel be looking for, and many other. people, it is notjust to define the party— people, it is notjust to define the party against _ people, it is notjust to define the party against the _ people, it is notjust to define the party against the conservatives, l people, it is notjust to define the| party against the conservatives, it is what _ party against the conservatives, it is what does — party against the conservatives, it is what does labour _ party against the conservatives, it is what does labour stand - party against the conservatives, it is what does labour stand for? - is what does labour stand for? clearly. — is what does labour stand for? clearly. i— is what does labour stand for? clearly, i think— is what does labour stand for? clearly, i think the _ is what does labour stand for? clearly, i think the fallout - is what does labour stand for? | clearly, i think the fallout from the not — clearly, i think the fallout from the not so _ clearly, i think the fallout from the not so many budget has been a .ift the not so many budget has been a gift to _ the not so many budget has been a gift to labour at this conference, and you — gift to labour at this conference, and you can _ gift to labour at this conference, and you can see that. rachel reeves

has been _ and you can see that. rachel reeves has been working very hard to try to -et has been working very hard to try to get this— has been working very hard to try to get this idea of fiscal competence, and now— get this idea of fiscal competence, and now theyjust seem to point to some _ and now theyjust seem to point to some of— and now theyjust seem to point to some of the reaction on the markets to what— some of the reaction on the markets to what the — some of the reaction on the markets to what the tories are proposing, and it— to what the tories are proposing, and it helps make their case, but they need — and it helps make their case, but they need to be careful that isn't all about— they need to be careful that isn't all about why you shouldn't vote conservative, because you never know what is _ conservative, because you never know what is going to happen in the next year or— what is going to happen in the next year or so— what is going to happen in the next year or so and they need to have their— year or so and they need to have their own — year or so and they need to have their own message, and that is one of the _ their own message, and that is one of the things that we need to see today _ of the things that we need to see toda . . ~ of the things that we need to see toda . , ~ ., today. chris, i think we need to let ou to today. chris, i think we need to let you go into — today. chris, i think we need to let you go into the _ today. chris, i think we need to let you go into the hole, _ today. chris, i think we need to let you go into the hole, but _ today. chris, i think we need to let you go into the hole, but maybe i you go into the hole, but maybe we will speak to you later. david, i know you are also in a rush, everybody wants to leave me so early on. we have said there hasn't been any trouble at this conference, but can i read to you comments are your colleague rupert hook labour mp, because jake berry, the chairman of the conservative party, has written to keir starmer, over her comments which were recorded at a fringe event, she was talking about the chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, and she said, if you hear him on the today programme, you wouldn't know he is black. she then referred to him as being superficially black. he went to eton. what action do you think

keir starmer should take about those comments and what is your reaction? well, i think those comments are unfortunate. well, i think those comments are unfortunate-— well, i think those comments are i unfortunate._ they unfortunate. only unfortunate? they are unfortunate, _ unfortunate. only unfortunate? they are unfortunate, i _ unfortunate. only unfortunate? they are unfortunate, i would _ unfortunate. only unfortunate? they are unfortunate, i would not - unfortunate. only unfortunate? they are unfortunate, i would not have i are unfortunate, i would not have made them myself. and clearly, i hope she apologises and retracts them. �* . , hope she apologises and retracts them. ~ , , hope she apologises and retracts them. i, , hope she apologises and retracts them. apparently she is standing by her comments. _ them. apparently she is standing by her comments, jake _ them. apparently she is standing by her comments, jake berry _ them. apparently she is standing by her comments, jake berry has - them. apparently she is standing by| her comments, jake berry has called for the neighbour with to be taken away. would you support that? look. away. would you support that? look, i have onl away. would you support that? look, l have onlyjust _ away. would you support that? look, i have onlyjust heard _ away. would you support that? look, i have onlyjust heard this _ away. would you support that? look, i have onlyjust heard this story, - i have onlyjust heard this story, to be honest, i don't know the full circumstances so i don't want to shoot from the but what was said, i hope she is able to stand those comments down.— hope she is able to stand those comments down. ., ~ , ., ., ., comments down. thank you for “oining us, briefly caused fl comments down. thank you for “oining us, briefly caused let i comments down. thank you for “oining us, briefly caused let me * comments down. thank you for “oining us, briefly caused let me show_ comments down. thank you forjoining us, briefly caused let me show you - us, briefly caused let me show you the tweet from jake berry, to you, katy and ayesha. we say goodbye to david lammy. keir starmer must act over rupa huq's disgusting comments at the labour party conference about the chancellor. again,

superficially, he is a black man because he is conservative is a vile thing to say. ayesha? i because he is conservative is a vile thing to say. ayesha?— thing to say. ayesha? i think that is a really unpleasant, _ thing to say. ayesha? i think that is a really unpleasant, stupid - thing to say. ayesha? i think that. is a really unpleasant, stupid thing to have said by rupa huq. and if you do look at senior positions of leadership, the conservative party has done better than the labour party on this. now, i think many black and asian people don't feel gratified for the fact that there are more ethnic minority people and more women in the cabinet, because they don't feel life is getting better for them, they don't feel life is getting betterfor them, we had a report out saying that institutional racism wasn't a thing, we have had the wind rushing scandal, we've got the rwanda policy, buti rushing scandal, we've got the rwanda policy, but i do think rupa huq's comments are really, really unpleasant, i do hope she does apologise. look, you can absolutely criticise somebody�*s policies and what they stand for, but if labour thinks that that is their way to go to attack somebody because of the colour of their skin, i'm afraid, i think a lot of people will be pretty

disappointed with that. do think a lot of people will be pretty disappointed with that.— think a lot of people will be pretty disappointed with that. do you think keir starmer — disappointed with that. do you think keir starmer will _ disappointed with that. do you think keir starmer will be _ disappointed with that. do you think keir starmer will be under _ disappointed with that. do you think keir starmer will be under pressure | keir starmer will be under pressure to take some sort of action? i think, i don't know what the action will be but i think you will feel probably the same way as i do and probably the same way as i do and probably the same way as i do and probably the same way that many of your viewers do. i think the labour party, instead ofjust slagging off minority figures in the tory party that have actually managed to climb up that have actually managed to climb up the ladder, i think labour should actually focus on improving some of the diversity within its own ranks. and as you say, that diversity is very clear at the top of government, with kwasi kwarteng as chancellor, suella braverman as home secretary, and james cleverly is the foreign secretary, how will these sorts of comments, made by the labour mp about was equating, and his race, go down? i about was equating, and his race, go down? ~ , about was equating, and his race, go down? ~' , ., ., down? i think they will go down badl , down? i think they will go down badly. clearly- _ down? i think they will go down badly, clearly. i— down? i think they will go down badly, clearly. i also _ down? i think they will go down badly, clearly. i also think- down? i think they will go down badly, clearly. i also think you i badly, clearly. i also think you have _ badly, clearly. i also think you have a — badly, clearly. i also think you have a situation where we have all been _ have a situation where we have all been discussing how this labour conference was a lot more professional than some of the past few years. —

professional than some of the past few years, and we haven't had all of these _ few years, and we haven't had all of these internal things, few years, and we haven't had all of these internalthings, if few years, and we haven't had all of these internal things, if you think back to _ these internal things, if you think back to the comments reviewers conferences which distract from the message. _ conferences which distract from the message, and i think this is probably— message, and i think this is probably the first test of the conference in that sense, which is, does _ conference in that sense, which is, does keir_ conference in that sense, which is, does keir starmer take firm action to try— does keir starmer take firm action to try and — does keir starmer take firm action to try and distance himself? because i to try and distance himself? because l think— to try and distance himself? because i think up— to try and distance himself? because i think up until this point everybody has been saying it has been _ everybody has been saying it has been going better—than—expected, god save the _ been going better—than—expected, god save the king, went without a hitch, and so _ save the king, went without a hitch, and so on. _ save the king, went without a hitch, and so on, but i think this is the first— and so on, but i think this is the first time — and so on, but i think this is the first time we are saying, this is actually— first time we are saying, this is actually distracting me that i do think— actually distracting me that i do think we — actually distracting me that i do think we have to put this in perspective, this is one very stupid set of— perspective, this is one very stupid set of comments from somebody. by the way, _ set of comments from somebody. by the way, there are plenty of things to criticise kwasi kwarteng about right now, the markets tanked, the pound _ right now, the markets tanked, the pound plunges, and people are worried — pound plunges, and people are worried about their mortgages, but don't _ worried about their mortgages, but don't attack them on the colour of their— don't attack them on the colour of their skin. — don't attack them on the colour of theirskin. it— don't attack them on the colour of their skin, it is a no—brainer. let's — their skin, it is a no—brainer. let's go _ their skin, it is a no—brainer. let's go inside the hall, because everybody is gathered there, there is rachel reeves, angela rayner... that was quick, david lammy, who was sitting next to mejust that was quick, david lammy, who was sitting next to me just a few moments ago! and yvette cooper,

everybody waiting for sir keir starmer. i think video is going to be rolling just before he takes to his feet for that speech. it was a long speech last time, somebody reminded me, 89 minutes, we will see how long it is this time. i was speaking to your colleague in labour, barry gardiner, on this programme last week, ayesha, he was of course jeremy corbyn's programme last week, ayesha, he was of coursejeremy corbyn's shadow cabinet, he said, people have had enough of keir the cautious capitalist and they want to see more of starmer the sensible socialist. do you agree? i of starmer the sensible socialist. do you agree?— of starmer the sensible socialist. do you agree? i don't. i think most --eole do you agree? i don't. i think most people don't _ do you agree? i don't. i think most people don't really _ do you agree? i don't. i think most people don't really care _ do you agree? i don't. i think most people don't really care about - people don't really care about whether somebody is a socialist or not, what they do want is somebody to get a grip on this country, they want the labour party to provide a really credible and energetic alternative to what is quite frankly alternative to what is quite frankly a bunfight. wherever you sit on the political spectrum right now, the country feels like it is in a really frightening place, and what i think is really interesting at this conference is that even people i have spoken to who were really

profoundly against keir starmer, people who have really stirred up trouble in past conferences, at a very senior level of the party organisation, have said to me, you know what, it is different now, because this is the first time since 2010 that we have really felt that we have a shot at power. so, even people on the left are actually saying, right, iam going people on the left are actually saying, right, i am going to pick my battles, let's actually get behind... battles, let's actually get behind. . ._ battles, let's actually get behind... . , , behind... that is interesting, if there is a _ behind... that is interesting, if there is a unified _ behind... that is interesting, if there is a unified field, - there is a unified field, particularly from that wing of the party. it particularly from that wing of the .a _ , ~' ., particularly from that wing of the party. it feels like we have got to the lace party. it feels like we have got to the place where _ party. it feels like we have got to the place where we _ party. it feels like we have got to the place where we can _ party. it feels like we have got to the place where we can have - party. it feels like we have got to the place where we can have our| the place where we can have our disagreements but we don't need to absolutely tear each other apart publicly. absolutely tear each other apart ublicl . ., ,., publicly. so, the fight for the soul ofthe publicly. so, the fight for the soul of the party. _ publicly. so, the fight for the soul of the party. it— publicly. so, the fight for the soul of the party, it certainly _ publicly. so, the fight for the soul of the party, it certainly hasn't i of the party, it certainly hasn't happened over the last few days. you say it has been a gift to the labour party, in terms of the fallout from friday that is a is a fiscal event, mini budget, not, as you coined it, i can imagine keir starmer having to

rewrite whole sections of his speech that he was planning to give to the conference today?— that he was planning to give to the conference today? yes, when you look at some of those _ conference today? yes, when you look at some of those announcements, - conference today? yes, when you look at some of those announcements, the | at some of those announcements, the a5p, at some of those announcements, the 45p. the _ at some of those announcements, the 45p. the fact— at some of those announcements, the a5p, the fact that labour said that they would undo what the tory government plan to do, and they would _ government plan to do, and they would put — government plan to do, and they would put the money towards nurses, this is— would put the money towards nurses, this is a _ would put the money towards nurses, this is a very— would put the money towards nurses, this is a very reactive conference, and i_ this is a very reactive conference, and i think— this is a very reactive conference, and i think in— this is a very reactive conference, and i think in many ways, it makes sense _ and i think in many ways, it makes sense to _ and i think in many ways, it makes sense to do — and i think in many ways, it makes sense to do that, because these things— sense to do that, because these things are — sense to do that, because these things are affecting everybody all over the — things are affecting everybody all over the country, people are very worried. — over the country, people are very worried, but then how does he also find a _ worried, but then how does he also find a space — worried, but then how does he also find a space within that to make it notjust_ find a space within that to make it notjust about what find a space within that to make it not just about what the tories are doing? _ not just about what the tories are doing? in — not just about what the tories are doinu ? . not just about what the tories are doinu ? , ., ., not just about what the tories are doin.? ,., ., a doing? in terms of that policy, already announced _ doing? in terms of that policy, already announced by - doing? in terms of that policy, already announced by rachel. doing? in terms of that policy, - already announced by rachel reeves, that she is going to spend that money on nurses, for example, but they are going to be questions about they are going to be questions about the economy, on the levels of borrowing, on whether there will be cuts to public services, difficult choices for a future labour government, where they to win? definitely, and i think keir starmer's team, particularly rachel reeves�* team, starmer�*s team, particularly rachel reeves�* team, are very cognisant of the fact that if they do win power, they will inherit a very difficult

set of circumstances, and i think they are very mindful to set out a message which is saying, look, we will have a challenging time on the economy, but we will spend every pound of taxpayers�* money very, very carefully. i spoke to somebody in keir starmer�*s team this morning and they said, the territory that they absolutely want to get on, where they feel really confident, is on they feel really confident, is on the economy. now, that is something which has historically been a real achilles heel for the labour party, for such a long time. but they do feel this is quite a unique moment in time, particularly aided and abetted by this sort of fiscal, dramatic event that happened last week. so, that is the territory that they want to be on. they are wanting to have that fight on the economy. and it will be about policies, but as we know there have been questions about keir starmer�*s passion, or fight, to quote andy burnham, mayor of greater manchester, does he need to show a little bit more passion and fight at this speech today, katy?

and fight at this speech today, ka ? ., ' ., , ., , and fight at this speech today, ka ? ., ' katy? you get different opinions on this, some people _ katy? you get different opinions on this, some people will— katy? you get different opinions on this, some people will say, - katy? you get different opinions on this, some people will say, oh, - katy? you get different opinions on this, some people will say, oh, hel this, some people will say, oh, he is boring. — this, some people will say, oh, he is boring. he — this, some people will say, oh, he is boring, he is drab, and then actually— is boring, he is drab, and then actually one of the things i think we will— actually one of the things i think we will hear from keir starmer is the view— we will hear from keir starmer is the view inside labour circles that there _ the view inside labour circles that there has— the view inside labour circles that there has been so much turmoil over there has been so much turmoil over the last— there has been so much turmoil over the last few— there has been so much turmoil over the last few years, actually a lot of calm. — the last few years, actually a lot of calm. or— the last few years, actually a lot of calm, or not having to think about— of calm, or not having to think about all— of calm, or not having to think about all of the changes of government and perhaps having a boring _ government and perhaps having a boring leader, could be what people want _ boring leader, could be what people want but _ boring leader, could be what people want. but then you also speak to shadow— want. but then you also speak to shadow cabinet members and yes, they are very— shadow cabinet members and yes, they are very behind keir starmer, it is hard— are very behind keir starmer, it is hard not _ are very behind keir starmer, it is hard not to— are very behind keir starmer, it is hard not to be when you look at the poll lead. _ hard not to be when you look at the poll lead, but they also say, is he bold enough, should we be capitalising on this and going a bit further. _ capitalising on this and going a bit further, and is he a bit indecisive? and there — further, and is he a bit indecisive? and there for when it comes to the poll lead. — and there for when it comes to the poll lead, you can go to ways, you can carry — poll lead, you can go to ways, you can carry the — poll lead, you can go to ways, you can carry the main vase and try and keep— can carry the main vase and try and keep everything as it is, or you can say this— keep everything as it is, or you can say this is— keep everything as it is, or you can say this is a — keep everything as it is, or you can say this is a reason for us to be bolder— say this is a reason for us to be bolder and _ say this is a reason for us to be bolder and have more of a vision, and i_ bolder and have more of a vision, and i think— bolder and have more of a vision, and i think there is a difference of opinion— and i think there is a difference of opinion on— and i think there is a difference of opinion on that. keir starmer some people say we have had enough pizzazz over the last couple of years and huge charisma

has led us into