hello and welcome to our digest of the global week seen through the eyes of leading journalists from the uk and the foreign corresponndents based here who podcast, broadcast, blog and, yes, even these days write for audiences back home from the dateline, london. confidence — it's the magic ingredient which makes us all believe that notes or coins, in themselves worth next to nothing, do have value and will be accepted as payment. governments need the confidence of the money markets who do the lending if they want to borrow money at affordable rates. over the last week, liz truss

and herfinance minister have struggled to create confidence in their economic strategy and to sustain it in the british currency. to discuss the uk's dash for growth and the border war between russia and ukraine, isabel hilton, a distinguished foreign correspondent who founded china dialogue, an independent body which explores the environmental challenges for that country and how that affects the rest of us. thomas kielinger was a student and later a lecturer in wales in the 1960s, returning to the uk in the late 1990s for a german newspaper. more recently, he's been a royal biographer. henry chu is london correspondent of the la times on the west coast of the united states. he's also part of the paper's editorial team. welcome to all of you, great to have you in studio. isabel is back from nairobi, so well—connected country. henry, let me start with you. for those who have not been any country,

like isabel, do you want to fill us in and describe what this week has felt like? , ., , in and describe what this week has felt like? , .,, , in and describe what this week has felt like? , . , , ., , felt like? this has been a dizzying week. felt like? this has been a dizzying week- when _ felt like? this has been a dizzying week. when you _ felt like? this has been a dizzying week. when you watched - felt like? this has been a dizzying week. when you watched the - felt like? this has been a dizzying week. when you watched the wayi week. when you watched the way the pound drop, because of last friday's mini budget that liz truss's new government put out, that caught people unaware, these unfunded tax cuts included were really quite worrisome and then you saw investors flying away from the pound in droves, and so we had the pound touching down to its lowest ever point against the dollar on just a few days ago. it has recovered a little bit, but that also has been because of this extraordinary intervention by the bank of england. for a little bit of context, we look at the fact that this government has only been in powerfor less at the fact that this government has only been in power for less than a month, yet this crisis has hit, and then they also look back to when i first arrived here in britain in 2008. the pound was nearly $2, 221,

and it was obviously extremely painful for those of us paying in dollars to pay our rent and buy groceries. to think about it in that period of time as dropping down to near parity is really quite astonishing, and so there has been that feeling of watching the bottom falling out from beneath us, and just a couple of quick things that really struck me about this. one is that this country has clutched to the pound is being so much part of its identity, to the extent that when we were part of the u, britain was exempt from using the euro because it claimed his superiority of the pound. watching that fall through is honestly going to have a psychological effect. and then the second thing that has been remarkable to me about this week is that we now have a government, the province or inner chancellor have almost a religious faith in the power of the free market —— the prime minister and her chancellor. they want to see the free market unleashed and trucked down my trust

in the rigors of the market for the markets have said what they think of their plan, and yet they say, we are ignoring the markets and we are going to operate almost despite the markets. that seems like a very strange paradox to me politically. acklin, having been outside and come back in, at the end of the week, how damaging has this been, both for confidence in the british economy andy prime minister's ability and ambition to steadily growth? i think it has been catastrophic. _ ambition to steadily growth? i think it has been catastrophic. you've - ambition to steadily growth? i think it has been catastrophic. you've got tory mp5 _ it has been catastrophic. you've got tory mps competing for new and different— tory mps competing for new and different ways to shake their heads in despain — different ways to shake their heads in despair. the british economy was alreadym _ in despair. the british economy was already... there were enormous questions — already... there were enormous questions marks over the british economy, — questions marks over the british economy, and there have been since 2016. _ economy, and there have been since 2016. for— economy, and there have been since 2016, for reasons we all know, and also longer—term. we do badly in a number_ also longer—term. we do badly in a number of— also longer—term. we do badly in a number of different factors, including productivity, like

investment, for example, so it was not looking... excuse me. but the credibility— not looking... excuse me. but the credibility issue. when you get rebuked, — credibility issue. when you get rebuked, when you are a g7 credibility issue. when you get rebuked, when you are a 67 country and you _ rebuked, when you are a 67 country and you get— rebuked, when you are a 67 country and you get rebuked by the imf, you really have _ and you get rebuked by the imf, you really have messed up, and these rebukes— really have messed up, and these rebukes have not been disguised at all. rebukes have not been disguised at alt as_ rebukes have not been disguised at alt as you — rebukes have not been disguised at all. as you said, i have been in nairobi — all. as you said, i have been in nairobi all_ all. as you said, i have been in nairobi all week. and people have been _ nairobi all week. and people have been shaking their heads and saying, what has _ been shaking their heads and saying, what has happened to britain? we use to admire _ what has happened to britain? we use to admire britain, we used to think it was— to admire britain, we used to think it was a _ to admire britain, we used to think it was a country of sensible politics _ it was a country of sensible politics and sensible economics, and they are _ politics and sensible economics, and they are just scratching their heads, — they are just scratching their heads, they cannot believe it. , thomas, do you want to put this in the storable context was next you came in the nineteen sixties... you were in the us when the financial crisis was so bad, hyperinflation, the effects of the oil shot that

jimmy carter's struggling, ultimately unsuccessfully, with. you came back in the 1990s, when the blair government came back in partially in a wave in reaction to the tory government of 1992. is there a way back? {jut the tory government of1992. is there a way back?— the tory government of 1992. is there a way back? out of the one of a icture there a way back? out of the one of a picture we — there a way back? out of the one of a picture we have _ there a way back? out of the one of a picture we have heard _ there a way back? out of the one of a picture we have heard from - there a way back? out of the one of a picture we have heard from those | a picture we have heard from those our two _ a picture we have heard from those our two colleagues... _ a picture we have heard from those our two colleagues... what - a picture we have heard from those our two colleagues... what i've - our two colleagues... what i've heard _ our two colleagues... what i've heard from _ our two colleagues... what i've heard from the _ our two colleagues... what i've heard from the trickle—down i our two colleagues... what i've i heard from the trickle—down doom when _ heard from the trickle—down doom when you — heard from the trickle—down doom when you contrasted _ heard from the trickle—down doom when you contrasted to _ heard from the trickle—down doom when you contrasted to the - when you contrasted to the celebration _ when you contrasted to the celebration of— when you contrasted to the celebration of the - when you contrasted to the celebration of the queen'sl when you contrasted to the - celebration of the queen's era, which _ celebration of the queen's era, which is — celebration of the queen's era, which isjust_ celebration of the queen's era, which isjust happened - celebration of the queen's era, which isjust happened before, | celebration of the queen's era, - which isjust happened before, and suddenly— which isjust happened before, and suddenly we — which isjust happened before, and suddenly we are _ which isjust happened before, and suddenly we are back— which isjust happened before, and suddenly we are back in _ which isjust happened before, and suddenly we are back in the - which isjust happened before, and suddenly we are back in the dragsl which isjust happened before, and i suddenly we are back in the drags of nationai— suddenly we are back in the drags of national malaise, _ suddenly we are back in the drags of national malaise, it _ suddenly we are back in the drags of national malaise, it is _ suddenly we are back in the drags of national malaise, it is quite - suddenly we are back in the drags of national malaise, it is quite a - national malaise, it is quite a shocic — national malaise, it is quite a shocic i've _ national malaise, it is quite a shock. i've experienced - national malaise, it is quite a shock. i've experienced this i national malaise, it is quite a - shock. i've experienced this shock several— shock. i've experienced this shock several tirnes— shock. i've experienced this shock several times before. _ shock. i've experienced this shock several times before. there - shock. i've experienced this shock several times before. there is - shock. i've experienced this shock several times before. there is a l several times before. there is a pattern— several times before. there is a pattern to — several times before. there is a pattern to this _ several times before. there is a pattern to this when _ several times before. there is a pattern to this when it - several times before. there is a pattern to this when it happensl several times before. there is a l pattern to this when it happens to the party— pattern to this when it happens to the party in — pattern to this when it happens to the party in power _ pattern to this when it happens to the party in power. sure - pattern to this when it happens to the party in power. sure enough, | the party in power. sure enough, that signals — the party in power. sure enough, that signals their— the party in power. sure enough, that signals their doom _ the party in power. sure enough, that signals their doom down - the party in power. sure enough, that signals their doom down the j that signals their doom down the line _ that signals their doom down the line. so — that signals their doom down the line. ,, ., that signals their doom down the line. . ., , that signals their doom down the line, ,, ., , ., that signals their doom down the line. , ., ._ that signals their doom down the line. , ., ., line. so there is no way back for the conservatives _ line. so there is no way back for the conservatives was _ line. so there is no way back for the conservatives was green - line. so there is no way back for the conservatives was green no| line. so there is no way back for - the conservatives was green no way back. it

the conservatives was green no way back. ., . , , the conservatives was green no way back. ., ., , , ., the conservatives was green no way back. . , , back. it led to a series of crises about the _ back. it led to a series of crises about the pound, _ back. it led to a series of crises about the pound, nine - back. it led to a series of crises about the pound, nine years . back. it led to a series of crises i about the pound, nine years later, he had _ about the pound, nine years later, he had to— about the pound, nine years later, he had to go— about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to _ about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to the _ about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to the imf— about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to the imf for- about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to the imf for a - about the pound, nine years later, he had to go to the imf for a loan, which _ he had to go to the imf for a loan, which was — he had to go to the imf for a loan, which was the _ he had to go to the imf for a loan, which was the most _ he had to go to the imf for a loan, which was the most human - 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hold it collapsed, and two years later margaret thatcher won. i hold it collapsed, and two years . later margaret thatcher won. same with jimmy — later margaret thatcher won. same with jimmy carter. _ later margaret thatcher won. same with jimmy carter. famous - later margaret thatcher won. same i with jimmy carter. famous american maiaise _ with jimmy carter. famous american maiaise speech — with jimmy carter. famous american malaise speech of _ with jimmy carter. famous american malaise speech ofjuly _ with jimmy carter. famous american malaise speech ofjuly 79, _ with jimmy carter. famous american malaise speech ofjuly 79, when - with jimmy carter. famous american malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he l malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he seemed _ malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he seemed to — malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he seemed to relay _ malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he seemed to relay the _ malaise speech ofjuly 79, when he seemed to relay the economic- seemed to relay the economic difficult — seemed to relay the economic difficult is _ seemed to relay the economic difficult is on _ seemed to relay the economic difficult is on the _ seemed to relay the economic difficult is on the american . seemed to relay the economic. difficult is on the american lack seemed to relay the economic- difficult is on the american lack of spirit _ difficult is on the american lack of spirit and — difficult is on the american lack of spirit and community— difficult is on the american lack of spirit and community values - difficult is on the american lack of spirit and community values and l difficult is on the american lack ofl spirit and community values and so forth _ spirit and community values and so forth the — spirit and community values and so forth. the country— spirit and community values and so forth. the country came _ spirit and community values and so forth. the country came back- forth. the country came back and showed _ forth. the country came back and showed him — forth. the country came back and showed him where _ forth. the country came back and showed him where the _ forth. the country came back and showed him where the fork - forth. the country came back and showed him where the fork laid l forth. the country came back and . showed him where the fork laid and forth. the country came back and - showed him where the fork laid and i was when reagan _ showed him where the fork laid and i was when reagan came, _ showed him where the fork laid and i was when reagan came, with - was when reagan came, with absolutely _ was when reagan came, with absolutely unending - was when reagan came, with absolutely unending glory- was when reagan came, with absolutely unending glory for| was when reagan came, with - absolutely unending glory for him. i fear therefore _ absolutely unending glory for him. i fear therefore for— absolutely unending glory for him. i fear therefore for the _ absolutely unending glory for him. i fear therefore for the current - fear therefore for the current people — fear therefore for the current people in— fear therefore for the current people in power _ fear therefore for the current people in power. there - fear therefore for the current| people in power. there going fear therefore for the current i people in power. there going to fear therefore for the current - people in power. there going to come to their— people in power. there going to come to their final— people in power. there going to come to their final asking _ people in power. there going to come to their final asking from _ people in power. there going to come to their final asking from power. - to their final asking from power. ironicaiiy, — to their final asking from power. ironically, they— to their final asking from power. ironically, they think _ to their final asking from power. ironically, they think of - to their final asking from power. i ironically, they think of themselves as the inheritors of thatcher and reagan. fin as the inheritors of thatcher and rea . an. as the inheritors of thatcher and reaaan. , ., ,, as the inheritors of thatcher and reaaan. , .,~ , reagan. on the breaking point, they have a point. — reagan. on the breaking point, they have a point. in _ reagan. on the breaking point, they have a point, in the _ reagan. on the breaking point, they have a point, in the sense _ reagan. on the breaking point, they have a point, in the sense that - reagan. on the breaking point, they| have a point, in the sense that some of the measures are arguably close

into reagan than they are of thatcher? but happening in a different kind of environment, translating the policies when other aspects of the economy are very different. �* ., aspects of the economy are very different. . ., , ., , ., different. and to pretend that you are the same _ different. and to pretend that you are the same as _ different. and to pretend that you are the same as a _ different. and to pretend that you are the same as a nation - different. and to pretend that you are the same as a nation which i l are the same as a nation which i come from which has 360 million people and is the world's fungus economy and has a currency that is the world's reserve currency, you cannot actually be the same. the us is unique in that regard, so can obviously take what reforms looks like they could possibly work for this country, but it is not going to be the same recipe that works for the us. ., .,, ., be the same recipe that works for the us. ., .,, ., ._ ,., the us. there are those who say some of this is america's _ the us. there are those who say some of this is america's fault, _ of this is america's fault, the strength of the dollar and the actions, the really aggressive interest rate rises introduced by the fed. . , , ., , , the fed. that is true. obviously, the fed. that is true. obviously, the fed. that is true. obviously, the fed has _ the fed. that is true. obviously, the fed has been _ the fed. that is true. obviously, the fed has been more - the fed. that is true. obviously, i the fed has been more aggressive than the bank of england and more aggressive than the european central

bank. there are actually some who say the fed was not aggressive enough to tame inflation in the us commit let's not forget the fed is a national bank, it is responsible for the us. the value of any currency is not determined by the fed, by the central bank, it is in the eyes of the boulders who do business in the various currencies around the world. the us dollar still remains the world reserve and the most trusted currency. it goes up and down. the pound was any basket along with the euro and also the yen, but those have all actually declined against the dollar, and that is because of what investors around the world think, notjust what what investors around the world think, not just what the what investors around the world think, notjust what the federal reserve thinks.— think, notjust what the federal reserve thinks. let's talk about something _ reserve thinks. let's talk about something from _ reserve thinks. let's talk about something from a _ reserve thinks. let's talk about something from a different - reserve thinks. let's talk about | something from a different north american country, from canada. we had this intervention for mark kearney, who was the governor of the bank of england, be secluded on thursday, having a punctual budget in the circumstances of the tough

global economy, tough financial market position, working at cross purposes with the bank, has led to four moves in finance markets. is there a perception that the bank and there a perception that the bank and the government are doing to contradictory things? it is the government are doing to contradictory things? it is more than a perception. _ contradictory things? it is more than a perception. the - contradictory things? it is more than a perception. the bank- contradictory things? it is more | than a perception. the bank had contradictory things? it is more . than a perception. the bank had to intervene _ than a perception. the bank had to intervene to — than a perception. the bank had to intervene to correct the damage the government had caused, by buying back bonds and by raising interest rates _ back bonds and by raising interest rates it— back bonds and by raising interest rates it is— back bonds and by raising interest rates. it is moving in the opposite direction, — rates. it is moving in the opposite direction, but if it had not, who knows — direction, but if it had not, who knows where we would have ended up? if knows where we would have ended up? if there _ knows where we would have ended up? if there had _ knows where we would have ended up? if there had not been an intervention? this goes back, what the bank— intervention? this goes back, what the bank did, was to try to restore confidence — the bank did, was to try to restore confidence in both the economy and the currency. and this was necessary because _ the currency. and this was necessary because the — the currency. and this was necessary because the government itself had removed _ because the government itself had removed all the guardrails. the 0br andm _ removed all the guardrails. the 0br and... nobody believes in this plan. but the _ and... nobody believes in this plan. but the fact— and... nobody believes in this plan. but the fact that they had not published and still have not

published and still have not published any assessment from 0br means— published any assessment from 0br means that what we magical thinking. we are not seeing an objective assessment. they sacked the permanent secretary at the treasury — the permanent secretary at the treasury on day one, the chief officiat— treasury on day one, the chief official of— treasury on day one, the chief official of the treasury, so it looks — official of the treasury, so it looks like _ official of the treasury, so it looks like they are simply driven by some internal light, which has not yet had _ some internal light, which has not yet had anything to do with reality, so why— yet had anything to do with reality, so why should the markets have confidence in them? one so why should the markets have confidence in them?— confidence in them? one little thin . , confidence in them? one little thing. the _ confidence in them? one little thing, the report _ confidence in them? one little thing, the report from - confidence in them? one little thing, the report from the - confidence in them? one little| thing, the report from the obr confidence in them? one little i thing, the report from the obr of thing, the report from the 0br of into the _ thing, the report from the 0br of into the end — thing, the report from the 0br of into the end of— thing, the report from the 0br of into the end of september... - thing, the report from the 0br of into the end of september... the| thing, the report from the obr of into the end of september... the end of november- — into the end of september... the end of november. there _ into the end of september... the end of november. there is _ into the end of september... the end of november. there is an _ into the end of september... the end of november. there is an old - into the end of september... the end of november. there is an old saying i of november. there is an old saying which, if of november. there is an old saying which. if you're _ of november. there is an old saying which, if you're in _ of november. there is an old saying which, if you're in a _ of november. there is an old saying which, if you're in a whole, - of november. there is an old saying which, if you're in a whole, you - which, if you're in a whole, you should — which, if you're in a whole, you should stop _ which, if you're in a whole, you should stop digging. _ which, if you're in a whole, you should stop digging. they- which, if you're in a whole, you - should stop digging. they continue to dig _ should stop digging. they continue to dig themselves _ should stop digging. they continue to dig themselves further- should stop digging. they continue to dig themselves further and - to dig themselves further and further— to dig themselves further and further away _ to dig themselves further and further away from _ to dig themselves further and further away from reality. - to dig themselves further and| further away from reality. you to dig themselves further and further away from reality. you think november is _ further away from reality. you think november is not _ further away from reality. you think november is not going _ further away from reality. you think november is not going to _ further away from reality. you think november is not going to hold? - further away from reality. you think november is not going to hold? it l november is not going to hold? it could not. the pressures of the

market— could not. the pressures of the market and _ could not. the pressures of the market and all— could not. the pressures of the market and all other— could not. the pressures of the market and all other interested parties — market and all other interested parties will _ market and all other interested parties will force _ market and all other interested parties will force them - market and all other interested parties will force them to - market and all other interested| parties will force them to revise the date — parties will force them to revise the date again _ parties will force them to revise the date again. and _ parties will force them to revise the date again. and altogether, parties will force them to revise - the date again. and altogether, the government— the date again. and altogether, the government seems— the date again. and altogether, the government seems to _ the date again. and altogether, the government seems to be _ the date again. and altogether, the government seems to be at - the date again. and altogether, the government seems to be at the - the date again. and altogether, the . government seems to be at the mercy of forces _ government seems to be at the mercy of forces that — government seems to be at the mercy of forces that they _ government seems to be at the mercy of forces that they cannot _ government seems to be at the mercy of forces that they cannot control - of forces that they cannot control but they are _ of forces that they cannot control but they are producing _ of forces that they cannot control but they are producing them - of forces that they cannot control but they are producing them to l of forces that they cannot control. but they are producing them to their own detriment, _ but they are producing them to their own detriment, so _ but they are producing them to their own detriment, so you _ but they are producing them to their own detriment, so you have - but they are producing them to their own detriment, so you have the - own detriment, so you have the budget— own detriment, so you have the budget coming _ own detriment, so you have the budget coming again _ own detriment, so you have the budget coming again at - own detriment, so you have the budget coming again at the - own detriment, so you have the budget coming again at the end| own detriment, so you have the . budget coming again at the end of november. — budget coming again at the end of november, and _ budget coming again at the end of november, and we _ budget coming again at the end of november, and we should - budget coming again at the end of november, and we should all- budget coming again at the end of| november, and we should all have budget coming again at the end of. november, and we should all have to wait for— november, and we should all have to wait for the _ november, and we should all have to wait for the forecast _ november, and we should all have to wait for the forecast of _ november, and we should all have to wait for the forecast of the _ november, and we should all have to wait for the forecast of the people . wait for the forecast of the people who want— wait for the forecast of the people who want to — wait for the forecast of the people who want to know? _ wait for the forecast of the people who want to know? it _ wait for the forecast of the people who want to know? it does - wait for the forecast of the people who want to know? it does not. wait for the forecast of the people i who want to know? it does not make sense! _ who want to know? it does not make sense! i— who want to know? it does not make sense! . ., ~ , ., , , sense! i mean, it makes no sense. everything — sense! i mean, it makes no sense. everything they're _ sense! i mean, it makes no sense. everything they're doing _ sense! i mean, it makes no sense. everything they're doing is - everything they're doing is undermining confidence. before we kee all undermining confidence. before we keep all the — undermining confidence. before we keep all the opprobrium _ undermining confidence. before we keep all the opprobrium on - keep all the opprobrium on government, was a kwarteng, the chancellor, and prime minister liz truss, what about the position of the bank of england and andrew bailey? i wonder about the degree of confidence in him and the bank's stewardship, for a number of reasons, number one because it had to effectively ballot the government, and he is independent, but he has not been publicly critical of the government's approach, so that must raise

question of independence. but quantitive easing has been going on... isn't there a political element?— on... isn't there a political element? 1, ,, ., ., on... isn't there a political element? ,, ., ., ., , , element? the bank of england as its own internal— element? the bank of england as its own internal polling _ element? the bank of england as its own internal polling to _ element? the bank of england as its own internal polling to see _ element? the bank of england as its own internal polling to see what - element? the bank of england as its own internal polling to see what the | own internal polling to see what the confidence of the british public is in its handling of monetary policy, and the latest one is the second one in a row that shows that the net number of people in britain actually are not confident, do not like the way that the bank of england has been handling the inflationary map, so absolutely there is a trust issue now in andrew bailey's handling of the bank of england, of the central bank for now, it is still independent of the government, and should remain so, despite would liz truss has been hinting at various points... truss has been hinting at various oints. .. ,, points... she did during her leadership _ points... she did during her leadership election, - points... she did during her. leadership election, possibles editions of review of it... essen editions of review of it... even mark kearney. _ editions of review of it... even mark kearney, when _ editions of review of it... even mark kearney, when he - editions of review of it... even mark kearney, when he was i editions of review of it... even | mark kearney, when he was the governor of the bank of england,

also trod a fine line but in terms of how much he could criticise versus how much he needed to make sure that he was playing a down the line. i think andrew bailey is in supposition, but we do see public comments in him is aptly quite low. how was the... if comments in him is aptly quite low. how was the... iii comments in him is aptly quite low. how was the- - -_ how was the... if i knew that, i would probably _ how was the... if i knew that, i would probably be _ how was the... if i knew that, i would probably be chancellor. how was the... if i knew that, i | would probably be chancellor of how was the... if i knew that, i - would probably be chancellor of the exchequer, but i would not want the 'ob exchequer, but i would not want the job right _ exchequer, but i would not want the job right now! i have seen economic catastrophe — job right now! i have seen economic catastrophe in other countries. the most _ catastrophe in other countries. the most dramatic one was in 2001, when argentina _ most dramatic one was in 2001, when argentina had what was at the time the biggest sovereign default in history. — the biggest sovereign default in history, and money vanished. the banks— history, and money vanished. the banksjust — history, and money vanished. the banksjust shut up. they history, and money vanished. the banks just shut up. they closed their— banks just shut up. they closed their doors, people went down with emmers— their doors, people went down with emmers lunchtime and be the doors and a _ emmers lunchtime and be the doors and a buddy had money. people, at the beginning, confidence in the

money, — the beginning, confidence in the money, that disappeared overnight. people _ money, that disappeared overnight. people cannot buy things and it was quite _ people cannot buy things and it was quite extraordinary, because they are very— quite extraordinary, because they are very inventive in how people respond — are very inventive in how people respond to— are very inventive in how people respond to it, and the country went overm _ respond to it, and the country went overm they— respond to it, and the country went over... they created a currency in the barter— over... they created a currency in the barter system to create the exchange, and it being argentina, you could — exchange, and it being argentina, you could barter cooking oil for psychotherapy... you could barter cooking oil for psychotherapy. . ._ psychotherapy... laughter you 'ust psychotherapy... laughter you just had _ psychotherapy... laughter you just had medium - psychotherapy... laughter you just had medium of- psychotherapy... laughter - you just had medium of exchange, psychotherapy... laughter _ you just had medium of exchange, and because _ you just had medium of exchange, and because it _ you just had medium of exchange, and because it was argentina, it was so successful— because it was argentina, it was so successful and so big, some political— successful and so big, some political parties got alarmed and apparently started printing fake barter— apparently started printing fake barter currency and flooded the barter — barter currency and flooded the barter system, created inflation and the whole _ barter system, created inflation and the whole thing fell to bits. it was like an— the whole thing fell to bits. it was like an excellent rated many cycle within _ like an excellent rated many cycle within a _ like an excellent rated many cycle within a crisis, but it was extraordinary. i do not think we are quite _ extraordinary. i do not think we are quite there — extraordinary. i do not think we are quite there yet, but people were out on the _ quite there yet, but people were out on the streets, shouting, that all of them — on the streets, shouting, that all of them go, get rid of all of them,

meaning _ of them go, get rid of all of them, meaning the politicians, and i sort of sense _ meaning the politicians, and i sort of sense we — meaning the politicians, and i sort of sense we are not that far off in this country. of sense we are not that far off in this country-— this country. talking about confidence, _ this country. talking about confidence, we should - this country. talking about confidence, we should not| this country. talking about i confidence, we should not be watching _ confidence, we should not be watching it _ confidence, we should not be watching it with _ confidence, we should not be watching it with relaxation. . confidence, we should not be - watching it with relaxation. every modern _ watching it with relaxation. every modern democracy— watching it with relaxation. every modern democracy has _ watching it with relaxation. every modern democracy has a - watching it with relaxation. everyl modern democracy has a problem watching it with relaxation. every- modern democracy has a problem with confidence _ modern democracy has a problem with confidence of— modern democracy has a problem with confidence of the _ modern democracy has a problem with confidence of the people. _ modern democracy has a problem with confidence of the people. germans - confidence of the people. germans have no— confidence of the people. germans have no confidence _ confidence of the people. germans have no confidence in— confidence of the people. germans have no confidence in the - confidence of the people. germans have no confidence in the ability. confidence of the people. germans have no confidence in the ability of| have no confidence in the ability of the government— have no confidence in the ability of the government to _ have no confidence in the ability of the government to run _ have no confidence in the ability of the government to run the - have no confidence in the ability of the government to run the show, i have no confidence in the ability of. the government to run the show, and the government to run the show, and the level— the government to run the show, and the level of— the government to run the show, and the level of acceptance _ the government to run the show, and the level of acceptance of— the government to run the show, and the level of acceptance of what - the level of acceptance of what happens — the level of acceptance of what happens in _ the level of acceptance of what happens in politics— the level of acceptance of what happens in politics drops- the level of acceptance of what. happens in politics drops further and further _ happens in politics drops further and further. eventually- happens in politics drops further and further. eventually we - happens in politics drops further and further. eventually we are l happens in politics drops further. and further. eventually we are left with a _ and further. eventually we are left with a political— and further. eventually we are left with a political system _ and further. eventually we are left with a political system which - and further. eventually we are left with a political system which does| with a political system which does not produce — with a political system which does not produce the _ with a political system which does not produce the kind _ with a political system which does not produce the kind of— with a political system which does not produce the kind of leader- with a political system which does| not produce the kind of leader that the citizens— not produce the kind of leader that the citizens are _ not produce the kind of leader that the citizens are entitled _ not produce the kind of leader that the citizens are entitled to - not produce the kind of leader that the citizens are entitled to expect, | the citizens are entitled to expect, and when — the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you _ the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you ask, _ the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you ask, what _ the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you ask, what is - the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you ask, what is the - the citizens are entitled to expect, and when you ask, what is the end the citizens are entitled to expect, i and when you ask, what is the end of it all. _ and when you ask, what is the end of it all. that _ and when you ask, what is the end of it all. that is — and when you ask, what is the end of it all. that is my— and when you ask, what is the end of it all, that is my worst _ and when you ask, what is the end of it all, that is my worst problem. - it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot— it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot see _ it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot see an— it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot see an end - it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot see an end of- it all, that is my worst problem. you cannot see an end of the i you cannot see an end of the confidence _ you cannot see an end of the confidence crisis, _ you cannot see an end of the confidence crisis, at - you cannot see an end of the confidence crisis, at a - you cannot see an end of the confidence crisis, at a time . you cannot see an end of the - confidence crisis, at a time where the uncertain— confidence crisis, at a time where the uncertain world _ confidence crisis, at a time where the uncertain world around - confidence crisis, at a time where the uncertain world around us - the uncertain world around us nowadays, _ the uncertain world around us nowadays, everywhere, - the uncertain world around us| nowadays, everywhere, would the uncertain world around us - nowadays, everywhere, would generate a new— nowadays, everywhere, would generate a new hands-on — nowadays, everywhere, would generate a new hands—on political— nowadays, everywhere, would generate a new hands—on political class - nowadays, everywhere, would generate a new hands—on political class that - a new hands—on political class that might— a new hands—on political class that might be _ a new hands—on political class that might be up— a new hands—on political class that might be up to— a new hands—on political class that might be up to the _ a new hands—on political class that might be up to the job. _ a new hands—on political class that might be up to the job. i— a new hands—on political class that might be up to the job. i don't - a new hands—on political class that might be up to the job. i don't see| might be up to the job. i don't see that yet. _ might be up to the job. i don't see that yet. and — might be up to the job. idon't see that yet. and so— might be up to the job. i don't see that yet, and so we _ might be up to the job. i don't see that yet, and so we are _ might be up to the job. i don't see that yet, and so we are going - might be up to the job. i don't see that yet, and so we are going into| that yet, and so we are going into difficult _ that yet, and so we are going into difficult times. _ that yet, and so we are going into difficult times. and— that yet, and so we are going into difficult times.— difficult times. and the threats to democracy also... _

difficult times. and the threats to democracy also... absolutely - difficult times. and the threats to democracy also... absolutely full | democracy also... absolutely full but politically. — democracy also... absolutely full but politically. i _ democracy also... absolutely full but politically, i think _ democracy also... absolutely full but politically, i think this - but politically, i think this government— but politically, i think this government is— but politically, i think this government is finished. l but politically, i think this government is finished. let's look at another situation, _ government is finished. let's look at another situation, not - government is finished. let's look at another situation, not that - government is finished. let's look at another situation, not that so l at another situation, not that so very far from us, at another situation, not that so very farfrom us, really. a couple of thousand miles away from ukraine. the loss, referendums during the week. thomas, referendums have a rather inglorious history in eastern europe. reflect if you would on the implications of all of this? i am thinking of what the soviet union did, i am thinking of what hitler did. the circumstances are different, but the uses and abuses of what is supposed to be democratic tool... . . ,., . , of what is supposed to be democratic tool... . . ,., . tool... the circumstances are totally different. _ tool... the circumstances are totally different. an - tool... the circumstances are | totally different. an economic discussion— totally different. an economic discussion like _ totally different. an economic discussion like we _ totally different. an economic discussion like we had - totally different. an economic discussion like we had with i discussion like we had with thatcherm _ discussion like we had with thatcher... euclid - discussion like we had with thatcher... euclid loss- discussion like we had with thatcher... euclid loss of. discussion like we had with - thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. ithink— thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it _ thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it is — thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it is the — thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it is the rate _ thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it is the rate of— thatcher... euclid loss of ukraine. i think it is the rate of the - i think it is the rate of the country _ i think it is the rate of the country it— i think it is the rate of the country. it is— i think it is the rate of the country. it is an _ i think it is the rate of the - country. it is an unconscionable event _ country. it is an unconscionable event which _ country. it is an unconscionable event which i'm _ country. it is an unconscionable event which i'm sure _ country. it is an unconscionable event which i'm sure the - country. it is an unconscionable i event which i'm sure the american president— event which i'm sure the american president is— event which i'm sure the american president is rightly— event which i'm sure the american president is rightly saying, - event which i'm sure the american president is rightly saying, the - president is rightly saying, the world —

president is rightly saying, the world will— president is rightly saying, the world will not _ president is rightly saying, the world will not tolerate - president is rightly saying, the world will not tolerate it. - president is rightly saying, the world will not tolerate it. it - president is rightly saying, the world will not tolerate it. it isi world will not tolerate it. it is one _ world will not tolerate it. it is one thing _ world will not tolerate it. it is one thing to _ world will not tolerate it. it is one thing to say _ world will not tolerate it. it is one thing to say we _ world will not tolerate it. it is one thing to say we were - world will not tolerate it. it is one thing to say we were not| one thing to say we were not tolerated. _ one thing to say we were not tolerated, but _ one thing to say we were not tolerated, but how— one thing to say we were not tolerated, but how do - one thing to say we were not tolerated, but how do we - one thing to say we were not . tolerated, but how do we bring one thing to say we were not - tolerated, but how do we bring it to an end _ tolerated, but how do we bring it to an end is _ tolerated, but how do we bring it to an end is another— tolerated, but how do we bring it to an end is another question? - tolerated, but how do we bring it to an end is another question? how. tolerated, but how do we bring it to i an end is another question? how does it all and? _ an end is another question? how does it alland? as— an end is another question? how does it all and? as long _ an end is another question? how does it all and? as long as— an end is another question? how does it all and? as long as you _ it all and? as long as you have someone — it all and? as long as you have someone like _ it all and? as long as you have someone like putin— it all and? as long as you have someone like putin absolutely| someone like putin absolutely resolved — someone like putin absolutely resolved not _ someone like putin absolutely resolved not to _ someone like putin absolutely resolved not to follow - someone like putin absolutely resolved not to follow any - resolved not to follow any traditional— resolved not to follow any traditional diff— resolved not to follow any traditional diff medic- resolved not to follow any traditional diff medic and i resolved not to follow any - traditional diff medic and civilise means— traditional diff medic and civilise means of— traditional diff medic and civilise means of coming _ traditional diff medic and civilise means of coming to _ traditional diff medic and civilise means of coming to terms - traditional diff medic and civilise means of coming to terms with. traditional diff medic and civilise . means of coming to terms with his neighbours. — means of coming to terms with his neighbours. it— means of coming to terms with his neighbours, it can— means of coming to terms with his neighbours, it can only— means of coming to terms with his neighbours, it can only go - means of coming to terms with his neighbours, it can only go from . means of coming to terms with hisl neighbours, it can only go from bad to worse _ neighbours, it can only go from bad to worse now— neighbours, it can only go from bad to worse. now what _ neighbours, it can only go from bad to worse. now what does _ neighbours, it can only go from bad to worse. now what does wors - neighbours, it can only go from bad i to worse. now what does wors mean? is he to worse. now what does wors mean? is he going _ to worse. now what does wors mean? is he going to— to worse. now what does wors mean? is he going to be — to worse. now what does wors mean? is he going to be serious— is he going to be serious about using _ is he going to be serious about using atomic— is he going to be serious about using atomic weapons? - is he going to be serious aboutj using atomic weapons? atomic devices? — using atomic weapons? atomic devices? he— using atomic weapons? atomic devices? he would _ using atomic weapons? atomic devices? he would be - using atomic weapons? atomic devices? he would be silly- using atomic weapons? atomic devices? he would be silly to. using atomic weapons? atomicl devices? he would be silly to do using atomic weapons? atomic - devices? he would be silly to do so, because he — devices? he would be silly to do so, because he cannot _ devices? he would be silly to do so, because he cannot calibrate - devices? he would be silly to do so, because he cannot calibrate the - because he cannot calibrate the response. — because he cannot calibrate the response, which— because he cannot calibrate the response, which would - because he cannot calibrate the response, which would be - because he cannot calibrate the . response, which would be ruinous because he cannot calibrate the - response, which would be ruinous for him. response, which would be ruinous for him all— response, which would be ruinous for him all we _ response, which would be ruinous for him all we have _ response, which would be ruinous for him. all we have to _ response, which would be ruinous for him. all we have to do _ response, which would be ruinous for him. all we have to do is _ response, which would be ruinous for him. all we have to do is continue . him. all we have to do is continue to encircle — him. all we have to do is continue to encircle him _ him. all we have to do is continue to encircle him with _ him. all we have to do is continue to encircle him with our— him. all we have to do is continue. to encircle him with our resistance, he must _ to encircle him with our resistance, he must find — to encircle him with our resistance, he must find a _ to encircle him with our resistance, he must find a united _ to encircle him with our resistance, he must find a united world - to encircle him with our resistance, j he must find a united world against him that— he must find a united world against him that since — he must find a united world against him that since he _ he must find a united world against him that since he refuses— he must find a united world against him that since he refuses to - he must find a united world against him that since he refuses to deal. him that since he refuses to deal with a _ him that since he refuses to deal with a man — him that since he refuses to deal with a man like _ him that since he refuses to deal with a man like him. _ him that since he refuses to deal with a man like him. contain- him that since he refuses to deall with a man like him. contain him. containment _ with a man like him. contain him. containment was _ with a man like him. contain him. containment was the _ with a man like him. contain him. containment was the old - with a man like him. contain him. containment was the old word. i with a man like him. contain him. i containment was the old word. you have to _ containment was the old word. you have to contain _ containment was the old word. you have to contain the _ containment was the old word. you have to contain the prudent - have to contain the prudent phenomenon _ have to contain the prudent phenomenon.—

have to contain the prudent phenomenon. have to contain the prudent henomenon. ., . ., phenomenon. even with the financial discussion, digging _ phenomenon. even with the financial discussion, digging in _ phenomenon. even with the financial discussion, digging in its _ phenomenon. even with the financial discussion, digging in its heels - discussion, digging in its heels when all seems to be falling around it, now unfortunately we have all sides entrenching themselves further in their positions, whether it is russians or ukraine or the west. all those positions are hardening and so finding out where you can actually go from that for everyone to have an off ramp, as they always say, of the file is very difficult, and with this annexation, we are even into new territory, where russia is saying, this is our sovereign soil that we are going to be protecting. that brings up new dangerous don't act dangers, in terms of weapons that could be used, treating the people who are there, who are trying to undermine that. it is a perilous phase. to undermine that. it is a perilous -hase.~ to undermine that. it is a perilous hase. ~ . ~ to undermine that. it is a perilous hase. ~ . ,, ., to undermine that. it is a perilous hase, . ., ~' ., .. phase. we talk about the were not acce -atin phase. we talk about the were not accepting this. _ phase. we talk about the were not accepting this, but _ phase. we talk about the were not accepting this, but actually - phase. we talk about the were not accepting this, but actually part i phase. we talk about the were not accepting this, but actually part of| accepting this, but actually part of the world — accepting this, but actually part of the world to accept this. if you look— the world to accept this. if you look at — the world to accept this. if you look at what happened in kazakhstan this last _ look at what happened in kazakhstan this last ten days ago? when putin and xi _ this last ten days ago? when putin and xijinping and this last ten days ago? when putin and xi jinping and leaders of iran,

we are— and xi jinping and leaders of iran, we are seeing a new axis forming of countries _ we are seeing a new axis forming of countries that do blame the united states— countries that do blame the united states and the west for all their ills, states and the west for all their ills. i_ states and the west for all their ills. i do — states and the west for all their ills, i do find a solidarity in that vision~~~ — ills, i do find a solidarity in that vision... , , ills, i do find a solidarity in that vision... , ' ., ., vision... different from what we used to vision. .. different from what we used to call— vision... different from what we used to call the _ vision... different from what we used to call the nonaligned - vision... different from what we - used to call the nonaligned movement in the 60s, when it was seen as post—imperial, many of the countries that free themselves from colonial european power. it that free themselves from colonial european power-— that free themselves from colonial european power. it overlaps in some wa s, for european power. it overlaps in some ways. for example — european power. it overlaps in some ways, for example in _ european power. it overlaps in some ways, for example in the _ european power. it overlaps in some ways, for example in the un - european power. it overlaps in somej ways, for example in the un general assembly _ ways, for example in the un general assembly. if you monitor votes there. — assembly. if you monitor votes there. you _ assembly. if you monitor votes there, you can see legacy from the nonaligned — there, you can see legacy from the nonaligned movement, but there is also a _ nonaligned movement, but there is also a proactive call to it from countries _ also a proactive call to it from countries that are entrenched enemies _ countries that are entrenched enemies of the united states, like iran. _ enemies of the united states, like iran, finding common because an action— iran, finding common because an action giving practical assistance. turkey— action giving practical assistance. turkey supplying drones, that is an ambivalent— turkey supplying drones, that is an ambivalent one. not turkey supplying drones, that is an ambivalent one.— turkey supplying drones, that is an ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! _ ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! if— ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! if you _ ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! if you look - ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! if you look at - ambivalent one. not least because it is a nato member! if you look at the | is a nato member! if you look at the russia and china _ is a nato member! if you look at the russia and china joint _ is a nato member! if you look at the

russia and china joint statement, i russia and china joint statement, that worldview, which is that all the world's troubles are caused by western— the world's troubles are caused by western aggression, which you continue — western aggression, which you continue to hear as a description of what _ continue to hear as a description of what putin— continue to hear as a description of what putin has done, and it is putin's— what putin has done, and it is putin'sjustification, again, even putin's justification, again, even today— putin's justification, again, even today he — putin'sjustification, again, even today he was framing it in terms of western— today he was framing it in terms of western aggression, there is an echo there _ western aggression, there is an echo there we _ western aggression, there is an echo there. we do not hear it so much in europe _ there. we do not hear it so much in europe or the — there. we do not hear it so much in europe or the united states, but there _ europe or the united states, but there is a — europe or the united states, but there is a lot of the rest of the role _ there is a lot of the rest of the role that— there is a lot of the rest of the role that finds this a certain schadenfreude there.- role that finds this a certain schadenfreude there. ~ . , .. ~' schadenfreude there. what you think ofthat schadenfreude there. what you think of that summit _ schadenfreude there. what you think of that summit in _ schadenfreude there. what you think of that summit in uzbekistan - schadenfreude there. what you think of that summit in uzbekistan with . of that summit in uzbekistan with president xi and putin and also modi from india? there was deftly talk, there seems to be reservations coming from those quarters about how the word was going on.— the word was going on. narendra modi address that directly. _ the word was going on. narendra modi address that directly. although - address that directly. although there might — address that directly. although there might be _ address that directly. although there might be that _ address that directly. although | there might be that entrenched worldview in terms of an implacable hostility towards what they think is the hegemony of the west, there are

these annexations, which bring up all kinds of questions, including for china. . all kinds of questions, including for china. , ., all kinds of questions, including for china. , . , . for china. there is a difference in interest over _ for china. there is a difference in interest over this _ for china. there is a difference in interest over this between - for china. there is a difference in | interest over this between russia and china — interest over this between russia and china to some extent, in that china _ and china to some extent, in that china essentially wants the world order— china essentially wants the world order as — china essentially wants the world order as it— china essentially wants the world order as it is. it wants it to tilt in favour— order as it is. it wants it to tilt in favour of— order as it is. it wants it to tilt in favour of china but... china's prosperity— in favour of china but... china's prosperity is _ in favour of china but... china's prosperity is dependent on the global— prosperity is dependent on the global economy. whereas you feel that the _ global economy. whereas you feel that the russian strategy of chaos has very _ that the russian strategy of chaos has very few limits and russia has very little — has very few limits and russia has very little to lose by creating chaos — very little to lose by creating chaos. china has quite a lot to lose — chaos. china has quite a lot to lose. ~' ., ., ., ., ., lose. thinking of taiwan and other issues. lose. thinking of taiwan and other issues- but _ lose. thinking of taiwan and other issues. but harry _ lose. thinking of taiwan and other issues. but harry said... - lose. thinking of taiwan and other issues. but harry said... you - lose. thinking of taiwan and other| issues. but harry said... you might assume _ issues. but harry said... you might assume there — issues. but harry said... you might assume there is— issues. but harry said... you might assume there is a _ issues. but harry said... you might assume there is a equidistant- issues. but harry said... you might assume there is a equidistant of. assume there is a equidistant of guilt— assume there is a equidistant of guilt or— assume there is a equidistant of guilt or force _ assume there is a equidistant of guilt or force here. _ assume there is a equidistant of guilt orforce here. i— assume there is a equidistant of guilt or force here. i connectedl guilt or force here. i connected away— guilt or force here. i connected away from _ guilt or force here. i connected away from the _ guilt or force here. i connected away from the fact _ guilt or force here. i connected away from the fact you - guilt or force here. i connected away from the fact you have i guilt or force here. i connected away from the fact you have to�* guilt or force here. i connected - away from the fact you have to start with first _ away from the fact you have to start with first principles. _ away from the fact you have to start with first principles. there - away from the fact you have to start with first principles. there is- away from the fact you have to start with first principles. there is an - with first principles. there is an onslaught — with first principles. there is an onslaught of _ with first principles. there is an onslaught of one _ with first principles. there is an onslaught of one country- with first principles. there is an onslaught of one country onto i onslaught of one country onto another, _ onslaught of one country onto another, which _ onslaught of one country onto another, which under- onslaught of one country onto

another, which under all- onslaught of one country onto - another, which under all prejudices you might — another, which under all prejudices you might hold. _ another, which under all prejudices you might hold, needs _ another, which under all prejudices you might hold, needs to— another, which under all prejudices you might hold, needs to be - another, which under all prejudices| you might hold, needs to be thrown back and _ you might hold, needs to be thrown back and needs _ you might hold, needs to be thrown back and needs to _ you might hold, needs to be thrown back and needs to be _ you might hold, needs to be thrown back and needs to be fought. - you might hold, needs to be thrown| back and needs to be fought. where do you _ back and needs to be fought. where do you go— back and needs to be fought. where do you go from _ back and needs to be fought. where do you go from there? _ back and needs to be fought. where do you go from there? you - back and needs to be fought. where do you go from there? you cannot l do you go from there? you cannot equidistantm _ do you go from there? you cannot equidistant... they— do you go from there? you cannot equidistant... they used - do you go from there? you cannot equidistant... they used to - do you go from there? you cannot equidistant... they used to be - do you go from there? you cannot . equidistant... they used to be world 20 or— equidistant... they used to be world 20 or 40 _ equidistant... they used to be world 20 or 40 years — equidistant... they used to be world 20 or 40 years ago _ equidistant... they used to be world 20 or 40 years ago where _ 20 or 40 years ago where people compared — 20 or 40 years ago where people compared russia _ 20 or 40 years ago where people compared russia and _ 20 or 40 years ago where people compared russia and america i 20 or 40 years ago where peoplei compared russia and america and 20 or 40 years ago where people - compared russia and america and so forth and _ compared russia and america and so forth and we — compared russia and america and so forth and we had _ compared russia and america and so forth and we had a _ compared russia and america and so forth and we had a peace _ compared russia and america and so forth and we had a peace movementi forth and we had a peace movement in ge”harry— forth and we had a peace movement in germahy which — forth and we had a peace movement in germany which swore _ forth and we had a peace movement in germany which swore by _ forth and we had a peace movement in germany which swore by that - forth and we had a peace movement in germany which swore by that notion. l germany which swore by that notion. but i germany which swore by that notion. but i cannot— germany which swore by that notion. but i cannot equidistant— germany which swore by that notion. but i cannot equidistant in— germany which swore by that notion. but i cannot equidistant in this - but i cannot equidistant in this crisis — but i cannot equidistant in this crisis you _ but i cannot equidistant in this crisis. you have _ but i cannot equidistant in this crisis. you have to— but i cannot equidistant in this crisis. you have to believe - but i cannot equidistant in thisi crisis. you have to believe in... apart _ crisis. you have to believe in... apart from _ crisis. you have to believe in... apart from a _ crisis. you have to believe in... apart from a political _ crisis. you have to believe in... apart from a political point - crisis. you have to believe in... apart from a political point of l apart from a political point of view, — apart from a political point of view, you _ apart from a political point of view, you have _ apart from a political point of view, you have a _ apart from a political point of view, you have a moral- apart from a political point of view, you have a moral point| view, you have a moral point of view, _ view, you have a moral point of view, although— view, you have a moral point of view, although some _ view, you have a moral point of view, although some people i view, you have a moral point of- view, although some people accuse me of being _ view, although some people accuse me of being the _ view, although some people accuse me of being the worst _ view, although some people accuse me of being the worst warmonger- view, although some people accuse me of being the worst warmonger in - view, although some people accuse me of being the worst warmonger in the i of being the worst warmonger in the world _ of being the worst warmonger in the world talking of _ of being the worst warmonger in the world talking of moral— of being the worst warmonger in the world talking of moral principles. . of being the worst warmonger in the world talking of moral principles. [l world talking of moral principles. [ was world talking of moral principles. was not trying to draw any moral equivalence in terms of the positions being held by each of the parties, but simply that they are irreconcilable as we see them come in terms of any political or genetic settlements, and if we do not want the orderjust keep spitting on him becoming even more deadly, with

weapons that we cannot control the fallout of, how do we find any actionable solution? that is what i do not see the end to? it is actionable solution? that is what i do not see the end to?— do not see the end to? it is about an off ramp _ do not see the end to? it is about an off ramp to — do not see the end to? it is about an off ramp to putin, _ do not see the end to? it is about an off ramp to putin, because - an off ramp to putin, because any setttemeht— an off ramp to putin, because any settlement requires an off ramp unless— settlement requires an off ramp unless he — settlement requires an off ramp unless he is taken out. but settlement requires an off ramp unless he is taken out.- unless he is taken out. but if he continues _ unless he is taken out. but if he continues to _ unless he is taken out. but if he continues to split _ unless he is taken out. but if he continues to split the _ unless he is taken out. but if he continues to split the conflict, i continues to split the conflict, which he _ continues to split the conflict, which he seems _ continues to split the conflict, which he seems hell—bent - continues to split the conflict, which he seems hell—bent on| continues to split the conflict, - which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot _ which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot be — which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot be our— which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot be our primary— which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot be our primary task. - which he seems hell—bent on doing, it cannot be our primary task. we i it cannot be our primary task. we have _ it cannot be our primary task. we have to _ it cannot be our primary task. we have to contain _ it cannot be our primary task. we have to contain info _ it cannot be our primary task. we have to contain info to _ it cannot be our primary task. we have to contain info to we - it cannot be our primary task. we have to contain info to we have . it cannot be our primary task. we| have to contain info to we have to make _ have to contain info to we have to make him — have to contain info to we have to make him think— have to contain info to we have to make him think that _ have to contain info to we have to make him think that further- make him think that further escalation— make him think that further escalation is— make him think that further escalation is not— make him think that further escalation is not in- make him think that further escalation is not in his - make him think that further escalation is not in his own| escalation is not in his own interest _ escalation is not in his own interest we _ escalation is not in his own interest. we have - escalation is not in his own interest. we have to - escalation is not in his own. interest. we have to prepare escalation is not in his own- interest. we have to prepare a case to let _ interest. we have to prepare a case to let him _ interest. we have to prepare a case to let him know. _ interest. we have to prepare a case to let him know, you're _ interest. we have to prepare a case to let him know, you're on - interest. we have to prepare a case to let him know, you're on the - interest. we have to prepare a case. to let him know, you're on the wrong road, _ to let him know, you're on the wrong road. you're — to let him know, you're on the wrong road. you're going _ to let him know, you're on the wrong road. you're going to— to let him know, you're on the wrong road, you're going to ruin _ to let him know, you're on the wrong road, you're going to ruin your- to let him know, you're on the wrong road, you're going to ruin your own l road, you're going to ruin your own country. _ road, you're going to ruin your own country. you're _ road, you're going to ruin your own country, you're going _ road, you're going to ruin your own country, you're going to— road, you're going to ruin your own country, you're going to ruin - country, you're going to ruin yoursetf _ country, you're going to ruin yourself. that _ country, you're going to ruin yourself. that must - country, you're going to ruin yourself. that must go - country, you're going to ruin yourself. that must go on i country, you're going to ruin - yourself. that must go on before we have any— yourself. that must go on before we have any healthy— yourself. that must go on before we have any healthy solution. _ yourself. that must go on before we have any healthy solution. just - yourself. that must go on before we have any healthy solution.— have any healthy solution. just one brief last thought, _ have any healthy solution. just one brief last thought, isabel. - have any healthy solution. just one brief last thought, isabel. i - brief last thought, isabel. i remembertalking brief last thought, isabel. i remember talking to the former latvian prime minister about the russian minority post of what about the russians who do not really think russia, critically those in

countries donna from shelby sperry thought for those people? i countries donna from shelby sperry thought for those people?— thought for those people? i think it is very difficult _ thought for those people? i think it is very difficult for _ thought for those people? i think it is very difficult for them. _ thought for those people? i think it is very difficult for them. they - is very difficult for them. they were — is very difficult for them. they were 25— is very difficult for them. they were 25 million russians outside the trorders— were 25 million russians outside the borders of— were 25 million russians outside the borders of the soviet union. two out of three _ borders of the soviet union. two out of three baltic countries had nearly one third _ of three baltic countries had nearly one third of the population as russians _ one third of the population as russians. that is all right as long as russia — russians. that is all right as long as russia does not try to weapon eyes _ as russia does not try to weapon eyes the — as russia does not try to weapon eyes the diaspora, but russia is trying _ eyes the diaspora, but russia is trying to— eyes the diaspora, but russia is trying to weapon eyes the diaspora. this business of, first we must protect— this business of, first we must protect them and then they could but to rejoin _ protect them and then they could but to rejoin us~ — protect them and then they could but to rejoin us. you can see this of donna _ to rejoin us. you can see this of donna as— to rejoin us. you can see this of donna as very, very difficult. isabet. — donna as very, very difficult. isabel, henry, thomas, thank you very much. more dateline next week, but for now, goodbye.

good evening. friday brought us a pretty wet, windy and unsettled end to the working week. it's been a fairly unsettled week, actually. this was the picture in perth a little bit earlier on in the day — some big shower clouds around there. and as we head through the rest of this evening and overnight, the main band of rain will start to clear away, the winds will ease a little bit, but we'll still have some blustery showers continuing through the night too. so here's the weather front that brought that rain on friday. that's just going to be lingering in the southeast over the next few hours, and then further showers just piling in across northern and western parts of the uk. but fewer showers further south, and towards eastern areas, mostly dry with long, clear spells. once that rain clears away, we should have clearer and drier conditions towards the southeast of england, for instance. but temperatures for many of us remaining in double figures, just dropping into single figures

for parts of northern england and eastern scotland, for instance, as well. now, through the day tomorrow, more sunshine than we've seen today and drier conditions, but not dry everywhere, because we've still got a westerly breeze driving in a few showers to northern ireland and scotland. could be the odd heavy one, perhaps the odd rumble of thunder in the far northwest. just the odd one for western parts of england and wales, but drier in the east and winds not as strong as recent days, but still gusts of perhaps 30—40 mph. so, a noticeable breeze coming in from the west. temperatures a touch warmer than in recent days, 19 or possibly 20 in the southeast, but typically the mid to high teens further north. into the evening and overnight, as we head through into sunday now, still some showers in the far northwest. clear skies elsewhere, but then this next area of cloud and rain moves in from the southwest to start off your sunday morning. so this feature here is a waving weather front which is going to dominate sunday's weather for some of us in the south. some uncertainty about just how far north the wave on that weather front gets, where exactly is going to see the rainfall, but it looks most likely on sunday for parts of southern england and south wales. and it is, of course, the london marathon sunday, so we could well see a bit of rain.

if you're running in the marathon or if you're going to spectate, you may well just want to be prepared for a little bit of wet weather around. but for the rest of the uk, a lot of dry weather. a few showers across the far northwest, and it looks like rain slowly clears from the south during sunday afternoon. so in the sunny spells, top temperatures between about 14—17 degrees for most of us on sunday. then it looks like higher pressure holds on as we head through monday and tuesday towards the south. drier and warmer weather on the way. more showers to come, though, further north. bye— bye.

this is bbc news. the headlines at 8pm... a coroner concludes social media did play a part in the death of 14—year—old molly russell, the teenager who took her own life. molly's father gave his reaction after the inquest. if this demented trail of life sucking content were safe, my daughter molly would probably still be alive. at an elaborate ceremony in the kremlin, president putin formally annexes four regions of ukraine into russia, after discredited referendums denounced by the west as a "sham". translation: they made this choice

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