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tv   Molly Russell  BBC News  October 2, 2022 11:30am-12:01pm BST

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hello. this is bbc news. i'm luxmy gopal and these are the headlines. one of the world's worst stadium disasters. at least 174 people have died in a stampede at an indonesian football match after police tear—gassed pitch invaders. britain's prime minister admits to the bbc that she should have laid the ground better for announcements that sparked chaos on the financial markets. king charles will now not be at next month's climate change conference in egypt following reports that prime minister liz truss "ordered" him not to attend. a man has been charged with the murder of nine—year—old olivia pratt—korbel, who was shot in her home in liverpool in august. the ukrainian flag flies once again in a key town in the donetsk region — just a day after moscow claimed the territory would be russian forever. and...brazil goes to the polls today in the first round of an election which has seen
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a bitter campaign between past and present presidents. now on bbc news... molly russell: a father'sjourney. a warning some viewers may find details in this programme disturbing. molly is always going to be our molly, but we're always going to miss her. and her story is known by more people. it doesn't stop her being our molly.
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a girl who made the news for the worst of reasons. reporter: the government tells - social media companies to take more responsibility for harmful online content in a bid to protect vulnerable young people from self—harm and suicide. 14—year—old molly russell took her own life. her father says social media played a key part in her death and his daughter... i think we were all amazed by the reaction to molly's story. reporter: the government is urging social media companies _ to take more responsibility for harmful online content. her photo was in the papers, on the front pages. you would be going about your life in a normal way and there she was again. reporter: two years ago, | 14-year-old molly russell... reporter: molly russell took her life... _
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not a day goes past when we don't miss her in some way. _ the important thing is that... the story about how we can do - something positive to make the world a safer place for young | and vulnerable people, that conversation continues. when ian russell first decided to speak about his daughter's death he had no idea that molly would become a household name. molly was the youngest of three sisters. at the time she seemed to be a very ordinary teenager. she handed her homework in that night. she packed her bags and was preparing to go to school the next day. and then when we woke up the next morning, she was dead.
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since her death, we have been able to look back and just scratch the surface at some of the social media accounts that she had been following. i remember this one, that picture. "this world is so cruel, i don't want to see it any more." there were accounts from people who were depressed or self harming. some of that content seemed to be quite positive. perhaps groups of people trying to help each other out, but some of that content is shocking in that it encourages self—harm. it links self—harm to suicide, and i have no doubt that instagram helped kill my daughter.
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it's more than three years since we did that first interview with ian russell here in west london, but it still has real impact today. that phrase, "instagram helped kill my daughter," touched a nerve for charities, politicians and, of course, parents. these are companies that count their profits in the billions, and they turn around and say to us that they can't protect our children. the headlines kept coming, and molly's death brought change. within days, there were questions being asked in parliament, and bosses from facebook and instagram were summoned to talk to government ministers and be grilled by the media. there is a picture of some slit wrists — that is instagram. there is a picture full of blood — from instagram. those are all against your policies but they are all available on instagram. we have to make sure that we look at these and ensure those are taken down. we can legislate if we need to.
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it would be far better to do it in concert with social media companies, but if we think they need to do things that they are refusing to do than we can and we must legislate. and nick clegg, once deputy prime minister, now working for facebook. why are there thousands of images glorifying self—harm on instagram? well, there shouldn't be and it's... it's as distressing to me as to anyone to have heard about the awful, tragic cases of teenagers taking their lives in the way that has come to light in recent days. slit wrists. smeared blood. you have children, would you let them near that? no, of course not.
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i think we were all amazed by the reaction to molly's story. less than three and a half hours before there was a knock on our front door and there was a journalist after the story broke on the six o'clock news. didn't expect there to be a reaction that quickly. the next day, her photo was on the front pages. didn't expect it to be that big a story. and, to me, that isjust a sign of the number of people that it touched, the number of families that were touched, probably because every family with teenage children who had access to the internet were worried. and so without ever planning it, ian russell became widely known, sharing his own experience to try and make the internet a safer place.
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it is devastating. in parliament, mps turned up to hear him speak. imagine, if you can, talking publicly about a moment so personal. i rememberjanet�*s scream. i remember pushing past her as she came out of molly's bedroom. i remember my disbelief when i saw my lifeless, youngest daughter. that moment my old life stopped and a new, emptier life started. that new life became all consuming. he set up a charity, the molly rose foundation and has been campaigning to strengthen the government's online safety bill. my youngest daughter died on 21 november 2017. the corporate culture at these platforms needs to change. speeches and events, meetings and conferences, even alongside the prince of wales.
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the world i know now is so different from the world i thought i knew before molly's death. i thought i understood enough about mental ill—health, the dangers online. the fact that there is a huge amount of easily accessible dangerous content online that would drive somebody closer to suicide was a horrible shock. if you find one hashtag, other hashtags will be suggested. so as soon as you are in the club, as soon as you start to find this sort of material, the sad, depression—encouraging, suicide—encouraging memes will be landing in your inbox, on your accounts, daily, and i can't think of how many of these such images such images molly would have been exposed to. its... it's just shocking.
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i expect it will be quite an emotional thing for me to be in the heart of silicon valley given what has happened to our family. 2019, and a fact—finding visit to the us. also an opportunity to challenge the social media companies. i'm interested to find out what attitude is in the states. i believe that although things have changed i don't think they have changed quickly enough and i don't think the companies have taken it seriously enough. first, florida, to meet an american doctor campaigning on the same issues. i personally have had as young as a seven—year—old who has had
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a full—on attempt of suicide. so we're going to see a young adult male who is here for a suicide attempt. when did you start harming yourself? about the age of about 12. this one probably required stitches but i didn't get it. stitched at the time. the numbers are rising rapidly, the age is decreasing significantly. do you think this is connected with social media? absolutely, absolutely connected with social media. we can go right on in here. that is pretty graphic. that is graphic. it doesn't get much more graphic than that. and itjust continues on and on. i don't know if there is one picture here that isn't showing blood 01’ a scar of some sort. like a grooming process that is happening on these platforms, especially on instagram because, you know, you follow one hashtag to another hashtag to another hashtag, and it is grooming that
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person to self—harm more. it could be one post that makes that child say, "she did it, i can do it too." i think i am probably disappointed that there is so much material still just so easily found. i was rather hoping that the steps taken would have at least made it harder to find that stuff. i knew it hadn't all gone, but there is just so much of it there. in new york, ian is due to be interviewed by american television, but first, something he wants to see. it is bit of a pilgrimage because molly could sing her way through all of hamilton,
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and we'd got tickets to see it in london. she was looking forward to going to see it as a family. the january after her death, we all went along, missing one of us. that's available online. it shouldn't be. if you took that content, printed it out, put it on a billboard by a town, that town would be incensed that that stuff was there. it's not right. hey. san francisco, silicon valley. ian cannot meet instagram's bosses because of legal issues around molly's inquest,
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so we speak to them on his behalf. molly's death and, more specifically, the work that her parents have done in the wake of that tragedy — which i honestly can't begin to imagine what they have gone through — i have children of my own — but the work they have done has raised an immense amount of awareness and an important issue for me personally, for instagram more broadly, but also for the industry. and it has translated into a lot of concrete changes, changes in policies, changes to what shows up where on instagram, more investment in finding people who might be at risk, and those effects are real and they're important. so, her legacy may be to make social media a safer place?
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i — iwould — i would deeply hope so. absolutely sounds sincere. i would deeply hope so. just hope he delivers. i would deeply hope so. because every week that that content is still there — and in the uk there are four more school—aged children who are dying by suicide, for example — it's — there is a pressure of time. there's a pressure of time. and the price is the price of children's lives. ian meets other bereaved parents. he wants to raise awareness about child suicide. it's just such a waste. it's just so sad.
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so, alysia valoras is another parent bereaved by suicide. # because you're mine. # i walk the line. her daughter alexandra ended her life completely unexpectedly. we thought we had a daughter who was happy, we thought i she was ok and inside, she was — she was not. that's. .. you could be describing molly. so, these were — these i were alexandra's journals. we found these on the bridge. that's just like a thing we found in molly's books — these big, scrawly, angry words. yeah, yeah. "i can't do this," yeah. it just wasn't — it - wasn't the girl we knew. um, yeah, this is kind of hard.
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yeah. we haven't got as many notes as there are in alexandra's journals but she left us some that we found after her death, and she says, "there's no hope for me". and then she says, "i'll see you in a while. "love you all so much. "have a happy life. "stay strong." so... so, those were — those were — - those were alexandra's words, too. yeah. same thing. exhales. um, and i don't know, like, what happens. i i don't know. how can you — how can you not think that your life is worthwhile? - there's a lot of other kids out there that are just - like her and don't say anything, you know, because it's not ok. to talk about, you know? so, i'm glad it's starting to get talked about. -
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i think i'm ok but very pleased to meet you. if you had had a moment to say anything, or a message potentially for him, what would you think that would be at the moment? for mr russell? for mr russell, yeah. to start, i don't want to pretend that i could begin to understand what he's been through. but i have a lot of respect that — for the fact that he has turned an incredibly tragic experience into a force for change, into a force for good. and for that, i'm grateful.
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it's an important day in molly's inquest process. we're off to see the legal team who have been poring through the contents of molly's iphone and ipod touch, and there are tens of thousands of pages worth of data that needed to be collated before we could have any idea of what molly was really doing online before her death. hello. it's ian russell to seejess and oliver and mary. hello. thanks. it contains some material that i'm sure's going to be very upsetting to — to read, sojust take as long as you need... thank you. ..and let us know
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when you are ready. there was just no let—up for molly. this is relentless. perhaps because i'm molly's father but it's just — you just read it and itjust saps you of your life energy. it's... exhales. just... it's horrible. and i can see how if you're exposed to this every day, it would destroy you. beeping. good morning. it's seven o'clock on tuesday the 20th of september. the bbc news is read this morning by caroline nicholas.
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the inquest into the death of a 14—year—old girl- who took her own life five years ago after being exposed _ to harmful content online will begin later today. - molly russell viewed large numbers of posts about depression, - suicide and self— harm. her father has said he hopes the hearing in north londonl will lead to changes around how social media companies - keep people safe. not looking forward to it at all, that glimpse into someone we still love so dearly, into the anguish she was feeling. this was the day we heard about the molly behind the headlines, beyond the pictures on the front pages of the newspapers. he described her life as "important" and "influential" and he told the court she was destined to do good. but i think and i hope that we will learn lessons and that it will help produce
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the change that's needed to keep people safe, to keep people alive. an executive from pinterest admitted to the court that he wouldn't want his own children to see the kind of content molly had viewed. and the head of health and wellbeing for meta said she was sorry that molly had seen content that violated instagram's policies. and then, after two weeks, the coroner concluded. ..the algorithms used by social media companies... ..girls like molly who said are in the eye of the storm... she become overwhelmed by the kind of material that she was seeing and ended up by taking her own life and in this historic decision today, this historic conclusion, a coroner has said that social media was more than minimally the cause of her death. it was everything ian had
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wanted to hear, and more. in the last week, we've heard much about one tragic story — molly's story. sadly, there are too many others similarly affected right now. i hope that this will be an important step in bringing about much—needed change. thank you. i hope that the world will be safer, the digital world particularly, will be a safer place to inhabit. and the final thing i want to say is thank you, molly, for being my daughter. thank you.
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thank you, everyone, and thank you for all of your coverage. so, after all he has gone through, ian's message for those who are struggling. all i would say is if — if you're in a place — a horrible, low place where you actually want to end your life, please reach out to those people that you love. because they would so much rather you did. so, what will molly's legacy be? a safer internet for young people, perhaps. ian russell certainly hopes so. and as for him, he'll carry on campaigning in his daughter's name. she left some notes, which i think we're lucky to have notes after her death because she tried to explain how she felt. "i'm the problem in everyone's life. "i love you all. "stay strong.
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"i'm proud of you." bless you, molly. i think every member of molly's family spends time every day wishing they'd done something different. and part of learning to process the grief that comes with a death by suicide is also learning to deal with that guilt. many nice people say "you can't blame yourself". i think that's — that's an impossibility. i think it'sjust a human reaction.
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and some days, it's worse than others, but i don't think there will be a day in the rest of my life where i won't blame myself.
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if, after watching this film, you are feeling distress or despair, details of help and support are available on the bbc action line. a soggy start across england and wales, but that rain will clear, a fine afternoon with sunny spells. this weather system clears away quicker, a brighter, drierafternoon for most. by lunchtime, may be a few showers across the channel islands. away from that, isolated showers to the north and west of scotland. fewer showers than yesterday.
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temperatures at a little bit. that is because of lighter winds than yesterday, especially for england and wales. still a breeze in the north and west of scotland. northern ireland, the breeze picks up. away from that, across england and wales, south—east scotland, a view mist and fog patches form in the skies. that will not stop temperatures from dropping too much. monday morning, summer breezes towards the west of scotland and northern ireland, rural parts of england and wales, temperatures in two or three celsius, low enough for a touch of frost on the grass and the cars. dry to begin with, but as these weather fronts push in with a strengthening wind, clouds will run ahead of it, not as sunny as it will be for some of you this afternoon, but still some spells of hazy sunshine, isolated chance of showers in cambria, dorset, rainbow, north and
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western scotland, turning heavy through the afternoon, seem across parts of northern ireland. temperatures will be on the milder side for the stage in october. a mild night to come, through the night, into tuesday, weatherfronts pushing southwards, a wet start across scotland and northern ireland, two batches of rain working into england and wales through the day, gradually fizzling, brightening up day, gradually fizzling, brightening up through scotland and northern ireland at that rate start. east anglia, south—east, could stay dry throughout. that area of cloud extends back into another system which will bring more widespread wind and rain on wednesday. end of the week looks fairly blustery, back to a mix of sunshine and showers.
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this is bbc news. i'm luxmy gopal with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. one of the world's worst stadium disasters. at least 174 people have died in a stampede at an indonesian football match after police tear—gassed pitch invaders. translation: i regret this tragedy, i and i hope this is the last tragedy l to occur in indonesian football. we cannot have any more in the future. sportsmanship, humanity and brotherhood in the nation should be upheld together. britain's prime minister admits to the bbc that she should have laid the ground better for announcements that sparked chaos on the financial markets and divisions in her own party. i do stand by the package we announced, and i stand by the fact that we announced it quickly because we had to act. but i do accept we should have laid the ground better, i do accept that.

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