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this is bbc news, the headlines: the polls are now closed in brazil's presidential elections — as two rivals from opposite ends of the political spectrum fight for power. the prime minister admits her government should have better communicated before the mini budget that sparked turmoil on the financial markets — and insists they'll be no u—turn on axeing the top rate of income tax. meanwhile, at the conservative party conference, the northern ireland minister, steve baker, has apologised for showing a lack of understanding to his irish and eu counterparts when making the case for brexit. one of the world's worst
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stadium disasters. at least 125 people have died in a stampede at an indonesian football match after police tear—gassed pitch invaders. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are journalist and broadcaster, caroline frost, and parliamentary journalist tony grew. hello grew. to you both. we will chat in a moment. hello to you both. we will chat in a moment. i will take our viewers through a look of the front pages first. let's start with the metro, which leads with criticism from former cabinet minister michael gove, who says the prime minister's plan to fund tax—cuts with more borrowing is "not conservative". staying with politics, the i leads with a potential
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rebellion from some tory mps, who want to force the government into a u—turn on its tax cuts for the wealthy. the guardian reports on the same story, which says there's a "rising drumbeat of discontent" amoung tory mps, over the pm's decision to stand by her tax cuts. however the telegraph says they have already got their way, reporting to already got their way, reporting to a delay to the cuts over fears that mps will not back it. elsewhere the new york times is reporting on the war in ukraine, revealing angry and panicked messages from russian soldiers who have been sent to the front line. that was a flavour of one of our international front pages. before our chat and talk through the front pages, we will turn our attention to events in brazil. the polls have now closed in
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the country's residential elections as two rivals on opposite ends of the political spectrum fight for power. both candidates have pledged more welfare spending with the country facing an economic crisis and high inflation. let's take a quick look now at the leading candidates in this election. the far—right incumbent, jair bolsonaro, is seeking a second term. a former captain in the brazilian military, he was a councillor for rio dejaniero before being elected president in 2018. he cut ties with the social liberal party in 2019, and is running for the conservative liberal party in this election. mr bolsonaro has previously said if he loses this election, it will be because the voting system is rigged — something brazil's electoral authority has dismissed —
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but it raised concerns he may not accept the result. the other frontrunner is luiz inacio lula da silva, known simply as lula. the left—wing former metal worker and union leader was president of brazil from 2003 to 2010 for the workers�* party, and left office with an approval rating of 80%. he was jailed in 2018 on corruption charges, but those were quashed and he was freed in 2021, allowing him to run in this election, promising to �*get the country back to normal�*. we will go to copacabana beach where our correspondence is standing by. the count has begun so where are we? 10% of the vote has been counted and
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so far, with 90% of the vote outstanding we are seeing a narrow lead forjair bolsonaro but it is too early to read too much into these results. in terms of the key election overshadowing this whole raises the question of whether president bolsonaro would accept a result that he didn't win because as you are saying, he has been suggesting that in some way this voting system could be rigged against him. that has led to great uncertainty here in brazil and a concern this is the most significant election in the country since the end of the military dictatorship and the return of free and fair elections in 1989. a big issue for voters is the cost of living with the war in ukraine sending energy prices and food prices up, inflation is high here. jair bolsonaro campaigning on a campaign platform of family, faith, liberty and homeland. while lula da silva
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previously the president here is positioning himself as the champion of the working brazilian, wanting people to have enough money to have a barbecue on the beach. all eyes in brazil as results come in and we are at 10% of the votes so far but in an hour and a half, we could know the whole result. fix, hour and a half, we could know the whole result.— whole result. a very quick turnaround. _ whole result. a very quick turnaround. however - whole result. a very quick turnaround. however with whole result. a very quick- turnaround. however with these allegations from mr bolsonaro that the election system could be rigged, how seriously are they being taken and how serious are those allegations for brazil? the problem is nobody knows _ allegations for brazil? the problem is nobody knows what _ allegations for brazil? the problem is nobody knows what president - is nobody knows what president bolsonaro would do. he has said the polls are wrong and polls have suggested he is trailing to lula da silva, he said that to his supporters, then he has cast doubt on the integrity of the voting machines. he is close to the military as a former captain so they have been fears of an military coup that those are overblown and top
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military officials have taken care to brief newspapers to say that won't happen but could he is our supporters to come out on the streets, as much as president trump encourages supporters to march on the us capitol. there is a lot of uncertainty and tension with nobody knowing what this first round of elections will bring and if there is no clear winner with more than 50% of the vote, this will go to a run—off between the candidates with more uncertainty and the potential for more political conflict. mr bolsonam's _ for more political conflict. mr bolsonaro's term in office, what was that like? it bolsonaro's term in office, what was that like? ., , , ., , that like? it has been tumultuous for sure. that like? it has been tumultuous for sure- he _ that like? it has been tumultuous for sure. he is _ that like? it has been tumultuous for sure. he is a _ that like? it has been tumultuous for sure. he is a pugnacious - for sure. he is a pugnacious populist, very much in the mode of former president donald trump. he revels in the moniker of trump of the tropics, he has accelerated deforestation of the amazon, he has
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attacked the rights of indigenous people during the pandemic, he opened the question of vaccines, said he was not vaccinated himself, so it has been a very tempestuous term in office whereas lula da silva is promising a return to the good old days when he was president and the economy was more stable. but of course the world has changed and these are two characters offering i geologically polar positions to brazil's electorate.— geologically polar positions to brazil's electorate. thank you. laura will _ brazil's electorate. thank you. laura will be _ brazil's electorate. thank you. laura will be following - brazil's electorate. thank you. laura will be following events | brazil's electorate. thank you. i laura will be following events in brazil very closely, life over the coming hours and we will bring you those results and also the developments and reaction to that. so do stay with us here. in the meantime, let us return to our look of the front pages. welcome back tony grew and caroline frost.
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i wonder if we could start off with that subject brazil. tony, the front page of the guardian, it has been described as polarised, everyone has been following mr bolsonaro's term in office, what have you made of it? i am more interested in his opponent, a politician so he is only known by one name, overcomes charges against him and seeks a comeback. i am sure borisjohnson is watching closely. am sure boris johnson is watching closel . ., . , am sure boris johnson is watching closel. ., ., , ., closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one — closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one of _ closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one of the _ closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one of the main _ closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one of the main issues - closely. for many outside of brazil, i think one of the main issues with l i think one of the main issues with him has been the rainforest, that has made the headlines worldwide and his approach to that. yes. has made the headlines worldwide and his approach to that.— his approach to that. yes, he is 'ust a his approach to that. yes, he is just a little _ his approach to that. yes, he is just a little mini _ his approach to that. yes, he is just a little mini trump. - his approach to that. yes, he is just a little mini trump. looksl his approach to that. yes, he is i just a little mini trump. looks like the election will go badly for him, attacks the integrity of the
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election process, flaws in the system, i would be concerned that he will refuse to concede and that will lead to a significant problem within brazil. brazil is a huge country, one of the most populous in the world, certainly in america and the stewardship of the amazon rainforest is something that should concern us all more than it does at the moment. if he is re—elected, that will be very bad for the environment across the world. indie very bad for the environment across the world. ~ ., ., ., . ~ the world. we are going to turn back to events here _ the world. we are going to turn back to events here in _ the world. we are going to turn back to events here in the _ the world. we are going to turn back to events here in the uk, _ the world. we are going to turn back to events here in the uk, caroline. l to events here in the uk, caroline. take us to the front page of the daily telegraph and the story we are concentrating on is their lead story, it has a picture of kwasi kwarteng coming out of his car but the headline is liz truss delays the vote on the 45p tax cut after tory revolt. what do you make of that? i think the telegraph has stolen a bit of a march—
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think the telegraph has stolen a bit of a march on the other headlines that we _ of a march on the other headlines that we will be coming to because it seems _ that we will be coming to because it seems as_ that we will be coming to because it seems as though liz truss has realised — seems as though liz truss has realised to avoid egg on her face in what _ realised to avoid egg on her face in what should be a defining week of glorious _ what should be a defining week of glorious homecoming as the new prom queen, _ glorious homecoming as the new prom queen, will— glorious homecoming as the new prom queen, will go badly wrong if she continues— queen, will go badly wrong if she continues down this line that she was taking right up until this morning. _ was taking right up until this morning, this afternoon. we had from her this— morning, this afternoon. we had from her this morning talking about how she was_ her this morning talking about how she was sticking by it but there were _ she was sticking by it but there were some cracks in the ideology, she was_ were some cracks in the ideology, she was forced to concede that it was not — she was forced to concede that it was not a — she was forced to concede that it was not a decision made across the cabinet. _ was not a decision made across the cabinet, certainly not among the wider_ cabinet, certainly not among the wider members, michael gove was quick— wider members, michael gove was quick to _ wider members, michael gove was quick tojump on wider members, michael gove was quick to jump on that and it does seem _ quick to jump on that and it does seem as — quick to jump on that and it does seem as though the rebels have had their way _ seem as though the rebels have had theirway. michael gove seem as though the rebels have had their way. michael gove said it didn't— their way. michael gove said it didn't go— their way. michael gove said it didn't go into the tory values that he considered important for the party— he considered important for the party and — he considered important for the party and he said it was a financial risk to— party and he said it was a financial risk to he — party and he said it was a financial risk to be borrowing all this money without— risk to be borrowing all this money without any of it being financed. the ear— without any of it being financed. the ear of— without any of it being financed. the ear of downing street has
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listened — the ear of downing street has listened and both the telegraph, normally— listened and both the telegraph, normally is pretty close to the line on the _ normally is pretty close to the line on the tory — normally is pretty close to the line on the tory party and i imagine this will he _ on the tory party and i imagine this will he the — on the tory party and i imagine this will be the case tomorrow, we will hear the _ will be the case tomorrow, we will hear the vote has been delayed until a couple _ hear the vote has been delayed until a couple of— hear the vote has been delayed until a couple of months down the line with more — a couple of months down the line with more fiscal discipline.- with more fiscal discipline. tony, we have the _ with more fiscal discipline. tony, we have the right _ with more fiscal discipline. tony, we have the right picture - with more fiscal discipline. tony, we have the right picture of - with more fiscal discipline. tony, | we have the right picture of kwasi kwarteng on the front page of the telegraph but in terms of that tax cut and other announcements that came through last week, how much do you think an 0br assessment will do to help things along for number ten? first of all, on this story, this doesn't make sense to me because mps were due to vote on these tax cuts until next spring. i don't understand what she's talking about in terms of delaying a vote when they are not due to vote until next year. an 0br forecast might have helped to calm the markets but if they had done the most basic treasury assessments and produce
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their medium—term plan at the same time as they announce these tax cuts and the supply—side stuff, that may have averted some of the scenes on the financial markets. i am coming to the conclusion that liz truss is never good at this thing called politics. they don't appear to understand the markets, how the house of commons works. if i was a tory mp i would be thinking, i am amazed at the amount of destruction she has managed to reap in such a short period of time in terms of our economic position and in the polls. let's take this idea of a rebellion forward. caroline, back to the front page of the guardian, the tories are threatening this rebellion. michael gove says the taxman is not conservative. how much damage do you think this will do to the party if there is another shake—up at the
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top? there is another shake-up at the to - ? ~ . there is another shake-up at the to . ? . ., , ., there is another shake-up at the to - ? . . , ., ., , top? we have been hearing that this doesnt top? we have been hearing that this doesn't 'ust top? we have been hearing that this doesn't just risk _ top? we have been hearing that this doesn'tjust risk liz _ top? we have been hearing that this doesn't just risk liz truss's - top? we have been hearing that this doesn't just risk liz truss's demise l doesn't just risk liz truss's demise but the _ doesn't just risk liz truss's demise but the demise of the tory party as a whole _ but the demise of the tory party as a whole i— but the demise of the tory party as a whole. i think that is slightly overstated. when it comes to maintaining the party line, the conservative party is one of the most _ conservative party is one of the most ruthless in the world, they do throw— most ruthless in the world, they do throw dead — most ruthless in the world, they do throw dead birds out of the nest very quickly as boris johnson discovered. the picture on the front of the _ discovered. the picture on the front of the guardian, it tells a thousand words _ of the guardian, it tells a thousand words. these two, kwasi kwarteng and liz words. these two, kwasi kwarteng and liz truss— words. these two, kwasi kwarteng and liz truss looking confident but increasingly isolated. we had liz truss— increasingly isolated. we had liz truss simply throwing her chancellor under the bus. the legs were under the bus— under the bus. the legs were under the bus it— under the bus. the legs were under the bus if not the whole body when it had _ the bus if not the whole body when it had been— the bus if not the whole body when it had been a decision taken by him not by, _ it had been a decision taken by him not by, cabinet. the tory party i find, _ not by, cabinet. the tory party i find, they— not by, cabinet. the tory party i find, they reveal their colours
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every — find, they reveal their colours every step of the way, they are worried — every step of the way, they are worried about this rebellion not because — worried about this rebellion not because it is somehow immoral but because _ because it is somehow immoral but because they are worried it will cost _ because they are worried it will cost them _ because they are worried it will cost them the next election. not because — cost them the next election. not because it — cost them the next election. not because it is the wrong thing to do, not because — because it is the wrong thing to do, not because people will have to choose — not because people will have to choose between heat and food but because _ choose between heat and food but because it — choose between heat and food but because it is the wrong thing to do when _ because it is the wrong thing to do when it— because it is the wrong thing to do when it comes to vote winning. tony, the olls when it comes to vote winning. tony, the polls are — when it comes to vote winning. tony, the polls are pointing _ when it comes to vote winning. tony, the polls are pointing at _ when it comes to vote winning. tony, the polls are pointing at the - when it comes to vote winning. tony, the polls are pointing at the moment to a defeat for the tories. more than a defeat, _ to a defeat for the tories. more than a defeat, a _ to a defeat for the tories. more than a defeat, a complete - to a defeat for the tories. ire than a defeat, a complete wipe—out, not a defeat, not some sort of narrow, which way will it go? the polls will put labour in 1997 territory. this is the point for tory mps, the damage has been done, there is no point trying to close there is no point trying to close the stable doors, she has irreparably damaged their reputation, that is done. you can try to get rid of her now and make
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the country look like a bunch of

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