said michael is hiv -ositive. he came _ said michael is hiv positive. he came out - _ said michael is hiv positive. he came out with . _ said michael is hiv positive. he came out with it| _ said michael is hiv i positive. he came out with it as though he was talking about the weather outside, you know what i mean? celebrity chef tom kerridge tells breakfast why he's campaigning for children in all households claiming universal credit to be given free school meals. will there be blackouts this winter? the uk's electricity operator will reveal how it plans to keep the lights on. chelsea cheer a first champions league win of the season. they were 3—0 winners against italian giants ac milan at stamford bridge, to give their new english boss graham potter his first ever win in the competition. a cooler start to the day across england — a cooler start to the day across england and wales than yesterday. a day of— england and wales than yesterday. a day of sunshine and showers foremost. more rain coming in across northern_ foremost. more rain coming in across northern scotland later. all the details — northern scotland later. all the details throughout this morning's programme.

it's thursday, the 6th of october. our main story. hundreds of thousands of nurses across the uk are being asked if they're willing to walk out over pay. the royal college of nursing is balloting its members for strike action for the first time in the union's 106—year history. the rcn wants a payrise of 5% above inflation, but no uk nation has offered close to that. our correspondent, caroline davies, has more. through the darkest days of the pandemic, the uk's nurses were some of the nation's heroes. now, they're being balloted to strike over pay. my love for it was to make a difference in people's lives. and that's why i am here. but then, sometimes when i look at it, it's like, is it really worth it? victoria is a mental health nurse in an nhs trust. after she came back from maternity leave, she went part time and receives universal credit because she says her pay wouldn't cover the cost of childcare if she worked full time. even now, she struggles. sometimes you end up having not

enough money to feed yourself, or even feed your children. if i'm going to work, and i'm... i'm making a difference in people's lives, ifeel like i should be able to be compensated and have enough pay for myself to sustain myself and even look after my children. the rcn is asking for a pay rise of 5% on top of inflation, something no uk nation has offered. the ballot will open today until the 2nd of november. nurses in northern ireland have been on strike before but, if this vote goes through, it will be the first time in the rcn's 106—year history that there's been a nationwide strike. not all nurses would walk out. some, whose work is considered to be life—preserving, or if it wasn't administered would lead to permanent disability, will continue to work, too. but this strike is intended to disrupt, and it's likely to come at a time when winter pressures are starting to build. the rcn say they have

no other choice. is this the responsible thing to do — to take strike action when we're coming into winter? you see, this is about nurses trying to get ministers to actually stand up and listen to the dire straits that they are in, trying every day to look after their patients. the department of health and social care in england has said it values the work of nhs nurses and is supporting them by giving them a pay rise of at least £1,1i00 a year. scotland's health secretary suggested yesterday that he'd be making an improved offer. other unions are also planning, or have started balloting their health workers. there may be anger over pay, but any form of strike will affect patient care. caroline davies, bbc news. multiple explosions have been heard in the southern ukrainian city of zaporizhzhia this morning. the governor of the region says rockets were aimed at residential buildings and that there has been significant destruction. it came after president zelensky said that the counter—offensive

against russian forces is continuing to gain ground. our correspondent hugo bachega is in kyiv. morning to you. what we know about this attack? good morning. we're still getting details about what happened. the explosions happened 5am local time around. residential explosions happened 5am local time residential buildings were hit. pictures posted online showed blocks of flats completely destroyed and the governor is saying that bodies are being pulled from the rubble. we don't have details about any numbers of casualties. it has been under constant attack in recent weeks, it

is relatively close to the front line in that part of the country. this as the ukrainians are going ahead with making gains. presidents lenski said last night three more villages were recaptured from russian forces. —— president zelensky. ukrainian military have entered the important region of luhansk. this as ukraine continues to make gains on the battlefield. protests against the iranian regime have entered their third week, following the death of a 22—year—old woman in police custody. schoolgirls and students have been defying the country's strict laws on wearing head coverings, after mahsa amini was detained for not wearing her hijab correctly. a number of demonstrators have been injured or killed as protests spread across the country. rana rahinpour reports. this was nika shahkarami.

a typical shy teenager, seen here singing karaoke with friends. she was killed by iran's security forces a few days before her 17th birthday. she was one of thousands of teenagers, protesting against the islamic republic of iran. opposition is growing. even schoolchildren have joined the protests, including this 14—year—old girl. translation: a lot of teachers do agree with us, but they don't - dare to say anything. boys have not chanted any slogans yet, but they show their protests in some sort of ways, such as writing on the benches, walls or distributing papers of slogans and collaborating with each other inside the school. pupils are burning the pictures of the leader of the islamic revolution, chasing away

pro—government school officials, and showing their middle finger to the ideology that has oppressed them for years. it all started three weeks ago with the death of this woman — 22—year—old mahsa amini. she died in the custody of the notorious morality police. she was accused of not wearing the hijab properly. with restrictions on reporting on the ground, videos shared online are vital evidence in understanding how things are unfolding. the bbc and independent media are not allowed to report from iran, butjournalists here across bbc persian and bbc monitoring have been gathering videos from social media and speaking to witnesses, tracking where protests broke out in the first few weeks. by using landmarks, the team can pinpoint the location of the protests. we've analysed more than 1,000 videos verifying at least 300 protests since amini's death. the protests have continued

despite ayatollah ali khamenei's warning on monday that they were riots, orchestrated by the west. his warning hasn't scared these young girls, who no longer want to see his face in their classrooms. instead, they wrote their dreams behind his framed picture. equality and freedom. to turn this page of iran's history. rana rahimpour, bbc news. a public inquiry will hear evidence today from families who lost children in what's been called the worst treatment disaster in nhs history. documents seen by the bbc show 175 children were infected with hiv in the 1980s, after being given contaminated blood during treatment for haemophilia. one of the parents giving evidence this morning has been speaking to our health correspondent, jim reed. he's always been well—behaved. full of life, as usual,

like little boys are, you know. linda's son, michael, was just a toddler when she was told he had haemophilia — a genetic disorder, which stopped his blood clotting properly. he was always on the go. he always wanted to keep busy. the haemophilia would stop him sometimes, but... ..he just learned to cope with it. in 1982, here at birmingham children's hospital, michael was switched to a brand—new treatment, imported from the united states. but factor viii was made from blood donated by prisoners and other at—risk groups. whole batches were contaminated with hepatitis, and later hiv. the doctor, of course, he said, michael, is hiv positive. and he just came out with it as though he was talking about the weather outside. you know, what i mean? on the way home, i had to tell my husband when we got in the car. and it was silent all the way home. we never spoke. it was such a shock, you know.

how did michael react to being told that himself? did he speak to you about it? well, he went very quiet. he went very quiet. and he said he didn't want any family to know. he never told his friends or anything. hejust wanted to be normal, see. there is now a danger that has become a threat to us all. michael was diagnosed with hiv, aged 16, in 1986, just as this hard—hitting tv campaign was launched. if you ignore aids, it could be the death of you. was he angry about what happened? yes. oh, yes, he was. i mean, i tried to be so positive for him — to think that he wasn't going to pass away. and even in the hospital, the woman had me on one side and she said, "you know, michael's going to die." and i said, "no, he's not," you know. sorry.

it just seems like yesterday still. michael died a week before his 26th birthday. he was one of 175 children infected with hiv after being given the same contaminated treatment. just couldn't believe what was happening, you know. today, linda will give evidence to the public inquiry into the disaster. i felt as though i needed to do it to help get to the bottom of it, because i think we all want to know why it was allowed to happen. that long—running public inquiry is nowjust months away from concluding. many families will finally be hoping for some answers decades after their loved ones were infected. jim reed, bbc news. the prime minister liz truss will be in prague today for the first meeting of a new political club of nations —

the european political community. the visit will include talks with the french president emmanuel macron, who mrs truss criticised during the leadership contest. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is in westminster. morning to you. i suppose in a way the meeting with mr macron could be a little bit awkward. that was then and this is now. and that was before the events around the queen's funeral and the very warm words mr macron had for the queen and the uk then, which i think has set a bit of a new turn. this is all about a much sought a bigger agenda will stop this is an idea that has been pushed by president macron to bring a grouping of european countries commit much broader than the eu, a0 plus countries together. european countries together. european countries which will be meeting as individual nations, not really as

the eu, which is important for the uk. countries like turkey, azerbaijan and norway. the aim is to discuss important things that they can around the table. at the minute we see these huge issues, things like the war in ukraine. energy security, obviously with the war in ukraine. the uk concern is partly around the need to keep energy links flowing into connectors we have with european countries. everyone is looking for energy supplies. migration as well. in a time of real pressure and crisis, this gives a forum for everyone to talk. on the european side, particularly their french side, a view that is really interesting six years on from brexit, a new forum to discuss things. no one knows how this will work out. we things. no one knows how this will work out. ~ ,

it's 6:1aam. now the weather with carol. it has been very blustery and raining. a cooler start to the day across england and wales than yesterday. temperatures down by five to 10 degrees in places. we are looking at sunshine and showers today. some of them heavy and thundery, emerging to bring longer spells of rain. it is going to be windy. we are starting off with a fair few showers and clearer skies. you can see more showers gathering across north wales and the north of england and then heavy rain comes in across the north of scotland. the odd shower across wales and the south—west of england. once again it will be windy. these circles represent the average wind speed. gas will be more than that. we could

have guests as much as 50 miles an hour. temperatures between 11 and the north to 19 in the south. this evening and overnight you will see that there is band of rain moving north. another coming in behind it and they will merge. it could be thundery like today and it will slowly slip south. cooler behind it and still windy. tomorrow this is a school a band of rain heading south, again dusty winds around it. a windy day generally. it eventually gets into the south—east as an narrow band. then back into the cocktail of bright spouse, sunshine and showers. temperatures 11 to 19. —— cocktail bright spells. is britain going to be able to keep the lights on this winter? the organisation responsible for our electricity network will publish its forecasts today for the months ahead. hannah can tell us more.

this is a very serious question given what is happening more generally. given what is happening more aenerall . , given what is happening more generally-— generally. there is definitely -ressure generally. there is definitely pressure on _ generally. there is definitely pressure on their— generally. there is definitely pressure on their system. it| generally. there is definitely . pressure on their system. it has been talked about for a while how we will mitigate that this winter. yes, we've already had a warning from the energy regulator, ofgem, which says there's a "significant risk" that the uk could enter what it calls a "gas supply emergency." it said the war in ukraine is causing uncertaintity, and there's already a gas shortage in europe, which is putting extra pressure on supplies. ofgem said it could lead to supplies being cut to power stations, some of which use gas to generate around a0—60% of the uk's electricity. what isn't clear is the impact this might have on businesses and on all of us at home, but the prime minister has previously ruled out the possibility of energy rationing. so how likely is it that there will be blackouts this winter? well, as a country, we no longer rely on russia directly for our gas. even in 2021, we imported just a% of our supplies from there.

but europe imported a0% of its gas from russia last year. and with reduced supplies, there's growing pressure on the whole of the international market, which could have a knock—on effect here. there has been some talk about new contracts_ there has been some talk about new contracts with people to supply us with gas, — contracts with people to supply us with gas, like the qataris, the us, and norwegians etc. those contracts will not _ and norwegians etc. those contracts will not guarantee the gas at any price _ will not guarantee the gas at any price. they may guarantee some gas that we _ price. they may guarantee some gas that we will— price. they may guarantee some gas that we will still had to pay whatever the global gas price is. whatever— whatever the global gas price is. whatever our gas prices in the uk at that time _ whatever our gas prices in the uk at that time. this is a very serious problem — that time. this is a very serious problem i— that time. this is a very serious problem i think we are facing this wihter~ _ problem i think we are facing this wihter~ a — problem i think we are facing this winter. a lot of people in the energy— winter. a lot of people in the energy industry are realising we may face shortages on top of everything else which, if it needs to blackouts, it means your central

heating — blackouts, it means your central heating pump does not work, your boiler— heating pump does not work, your boiler does — heating pump does not work, your boiler does not work. even if you have _ boiler does not work. even if you have got — boiler does not work. even if you have got glass in the home, you cannot— have got glass in the home, you cannot use — have got glass in the home, you cannot use it. join eating because your central— cannot use it. join eating because your central heating will not work. -- you _ your central heating will not work. —— you cannot use it. later today, the national grid, eso — the electricity operatorfor the uk — will publish its forecasts for our energy supply over the winter. it's already extended the life of some coal—fired power stations as a back up, and will be looking at whether it can meet expected demand. the government says it is confident that it can protect the security of electricity and gas supplies and is working to ensure household and business energy needs are met this winter. let's take a look at today's papers. many of the front pages carry reaction to liz truss' first conservative party conference speech as prime minister. the daily mail calls it "defiant" and says she is "taking the fight" to her critics.

however, the i reports on suggestions there is a growing rebellion within liz truss's cabinet, with ministers pressuring the prime minister to reverse plans for a real—terms squeeze on universal credit and other benefits. away from the conservative party conference, the daily telegraph is reporting that the treasury will impose an additional £21 billion of income taxes, despite what liz truss has called a "tax—cutting" mini—budget. analysis from the institute for fiscal studies has found the average household will be £1,a50 a year worse off as a result and one of the most watched videos on the bbc news website shows a playground at a primary school in wolverhampton that has had a rather usual uplift. it has its own staff struggled to arrange lessons locally. —— it has its own swimming pool after staff struggled to arrange lessons locally.

if you want to go to a restaurant called dogue, this is a bistro for dogs. they do a three course tasting menu. $75 this class. would you like to hear some of the menu? e5 menu. $75 this class. would you like to hear some of the menu?- menu. $75 this class. would you like to hear some of the menu? $75 for a do ? onl to hear some of the menu? $75 for a dog? only dogs _ to hear some of the menu? $75 for a dog? only dogs get _ to hear some of the menu? $75 for a dog? only dogs get fed. _ to hear some of the menu? $75 for a dog? only dogs get fed. a _ to hear some of the menu? $75 for a dog? only dogs get fed. a first - dog? only dogs get fed. a first course, appetiser _ dog? only dogs get fed. a first course, appetiser chicken - dog? only dogs get fed. a first course, appetiser chicken and l course, appetiser chicken and mushroom soup. the second course was chicken skin waffle. and hand. then fillet mignon with a quail egg on top, broccoli. $75 forthat. nonsense! how many hours do you think it takes to become a good friend? years, probably. no. 3a

hours, apparently. after this study of more than 2000 individuals, 20a0 minutes we need. an oxford professor analysed this. the ultimate formula for friendship involves 11 interactions, each lasting on average three hours and four minutes. over the period of 5.5 months. how long this programme? that is not tenable, is it? that is not right. it doesn't make any sense. the celebrity chef tom kerridge is calling on the government to expand the number of children in england who are offered a free school meal. he says around 800,000 boys and girls are currently slipping through cracks in the system. breakfast�*sjohn maguire went to meet him, and find out more. mind yourfingers. mind yourthumb. he's cooked for royalty, politicians and stars of sport and entertainment. but this — this is a tough crowd. when we put chilli powder in, we only need to put

a little bit at a time. today, chef tom kerridge is cooking with, for and against pupils at torridon primary school in south east london. along with the england footballer marcus rashford, tom campaigns against child hunger. they come from similar humble backgrounds and their full—time initiative creates affordable recipes to cook at home. and, today, tom is also calling for free school meals to be made available to a wider range of families. at the minute, there's a disparity. there's a gap of over 800,000 children, whose family qualify for universal credit, but they don't qualify for free school meals. now, that means testing. surely that just has to be one thing. if you qualify for universal credit, then you should be qualifying for free school meals because we know that these are the most vulnerable children in society. they come from areas that are economically challenged. so surely that should be... that's 800,000 kids there that really do need to be looked after.

in england, all children up to year 2 can have free school meals during term time. in year 3 and above, pupils from households on benefits could be eligible. for those on universal credit, net income must be less than £7,a00 a year. in northern ireland, that figure is 1a,000. and in scotland, the government says it's committed to free meals for all primary children this parliament, and in wales, the same pledge exists by 202a. the head teacher here says they're constantly trying to help families negotiate the bureaucracy involved in applying for free lunches and believes food is vital for learning. it's really important. children need to eat healthily. they need to eat well because if they're not eating well, and if they're going hungry, then they're not able to learn well. so it is really key that they have a really good meal.

for some children, that's the only hot meal they'll have during the day. so it is really important that they do have that healthy, nutritious start. the government in england says it will keep all free school meal eligibility under review, and has expanded access more than any other government in recent decades, currently reaching 1.9 million children. will you have an ice cream or biscuit? the school's head chef has had many successes in national competitions and clearly loves the job he does, and the difference it makes to children's lives. what ijust love is just knowing that i'm feeding the children, and this could be the only meal they eat sometimes. so for me it's a lot of love and passion that goes in it. yeah. you didn't start off wanting to be a school... no. originally, i was in restaurants and hotels, so i think, at first, it was like you don't hear much about school catering, and it does get a bit of a stigma in the press. so i think seeing it for myself hands on, it's more different because the food we produce is...

the kids are smiling every day, so... yeah, you having fun? the school's catering company, chartwells, is today cooking lunch for all of the 650 children here from tom's weekly full—time recipe cards. and the proof of the pudding and the main course is in the eating. and, despite the excitement, there's lots of that going on here today. what did you have? the chicken's nice. the mexican chicken. and you like... what did you have? i like the noodles. you like the noodles. what did you have? pizza. i like the pizza, but i would say it's like, very thin, and it wasn't really cheesy, but otherwise it was very good. sometimes it can be very nice and sometimes it can be just fine. i say very often it's very nice. i really think the food is nice. our cooks do cook good food as well. so far, this is my favourite. the cost—of—living crisis for families and for those supplying

food is increasing anxiety about child hunger and therefore the need for solutions and answers is ever more urgent. john maguire, bbc news, lewisham. how have we got on with lunch today? i love tom. he is so comfortable with the fist pump. he really wanted to know, he was genuinely asking the questions. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. most rail services are getting back to normal this morning following strike action yesterday. but passengers using gwr trains into and out of paddington

are being warned that industrial action will continue into the weekend. thousands of train drivers and other employees have walked out in a dispute over pay and conditions. gwr is advising people to only use trains if absolutely necessary. from this morning you'll be able to hire electric bikes from transport for london. 500 e—bikes — like this one which the mayor of london tried out last year — will be available. there are now more than 800 docking stations in the capital. american football fans packed out tottenham hotspur stadium at the weekend as nfl returned to the capital. and now the search is on to find the future stars of the sport in london. talent spotters from the united states have been at spurs this week putting hopefuls through their paces. it's been fun, competitive. i enjoyed it, you know? i love competition, so i'm all here for it. i think my chances are strong. there's always room for improvement, and i've always believed that.

there's areas i'm going to work from probably monday but give myself a little time off. bfi london film festival's immersive art and extended realities strand opens today on leake street. and for the first time the lff expanded show has teamed up with the national theatre and the barbican. lff extended is the new strand for immersive art and extended realities here at the bfi london film festival. we branch out into new forms of storytelling, virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality, immersive audio, and we always use cinema as a jumping off point. let's take a look at the tube board this morning. there's a good service on the tubes — just the overground with minor delays. now the weather with kawser. good morning. quite a chilly start to the day, but it is a bright and breezy one with a ridge of high pressure andplenty of dry weather and good spells of sunshine around, especially during the course of the morning. here is the map and you can see plenty of sunshine around

but we will see more in the way of cloud bubbling up as we head into the afternoon, spreading in from the west, but still plenty of breaks to allow the sunshine through and temperatures reaching around the upper teens. through the evening, it remains fairly breezy, clear skies and some cloud around at times but less cold than last night with overnight lows dipping to around eight to 10 celsius, so less chilly, certainly, but there could be one or two cooler spots. looking ahead to friday, there is this cold front and the potential it could bring squally showers into friday afternoon but it should clear away for the weekend, so generally the weekend is looking fairly settled and dry. so for the outlook, today is largely fine and right with good spells of sunshine. the chance of some squally showers later on on friday and then for the weekend, fairly dry, settled conditions for the most part and temperatures generally reaching around the mid to high teens. i'm back in half an hour. but there's lots on our website and social media including more on what's being showcased at this year's bfi london film festival — head to our facebook for that. now it's back to charlie and naga.

bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. coming up on this morning's programme. the "gavin and stacey" writer ruthjones will be here to tell us about her latest novel — which was inspired by her appearance on a very different bbc show, "who do you think you are." iremember him telling a story about being very close to a cat and someone who had farted very loudly and it had parted the cat's hair, alan rickman's friend and frequent co—star dame emma thompson, and his widow, rima horton, have been sharing their memories of the late actor, as his diaries are published. and we'll bejoined on the sofa by this very large and partially—trained puppy called hugo — what could possibly go wrong — as we discuss the extraordinary public response to last week's story on breakfast about a

shortage of guide dogs. the home office has suspended an immigration official after a bbc newsnight investigation revealed he'd been posting racist content on whatsapp. rob lewis — a former metropolitan police officer — is understood to have created the group, which also includes other ex—officers. the whatspp group was active right up until the start of this week, with discriminatory material being shared. newsnight�*s uk editor sima kotecha reports. a whatsapp group with several former metropolitan police officers on it. the content is vile. racist, misogynistic, homophobic, pornographic. it's so offensive we have chosen not to show it. this one is horrific. yes. dave eden was a police officer for almost 30 years. he retired in 2010 and has been on the group since it started

in 2016 as, what he called, a silent observer. there is frequent use of the p word. there are references to black politicians which are extremely unpleasant. the entire undertone is one of racism and misogyny. throughout his career he has collected evidence showing examples of prejudice in policing. if these are former police officers, why should we be worried? it doesn't matter whether they are retired or whether they are serving, we are introducing them into that culture and we are allowing it to continue. the founder of the group and the chief poster of racist content is rob lewis, a former metropolitan police officer. he has now been suspended

from a role at the uk border force following this bbc investigation. i called him to ask why he was sharing such offensive material. i'm actually at work at the moment, so i can't give you any time. we've been speaking to a whistle—blower about a whatsapp group with serving and former diplomatic protection officers on it. hello? he has hung up. he did not respond to our messages either. the home office told us... the new met commissioner has previously acknowledged a problem with racism in the force. while there is no evidence to suggest this whatsapp group includes any current officers, the bbc has heard from serving met met police officers that racist content is still doing the rounds. this will be an uphill battle for

the met to eliminate this culture. individuals need to be held accountable and made an example of to demonstrate to colleagues that these behaviours and ideologies have no place in the met. i fail to see any substantial improvement within the organisation. the met told us that these messages are apparent and have absolutely no place in policing or society. they urged dave eden to talk to them, pointing out that he had declined when asked earlier this year. dave eden has now submitted the evidence he has gathered to an independent inquiry into the force. well, this group tells me that the culture of the metropolitan police hasn't changed. and, in fairness, it's notjust this group, its other groups, it's what i'm hearing out of the mouths of ex colleagues and what i am witnessing all the time. sima kotecha, bbc news.

dal babu is a former chief superintendent in the metropolitan police. he's worked on improving relations between the force and people from black and minority ethnic communities. daljoins us now from north london. good morning to you. what is your reaction to this?— reaction to this? well, it's pretty shockina. reaction to this? well, it's pretty shocking- it's _ reaction to this? well, it's pretty shocking. it's appalling - reaction to this? well, it's pretty shocking. it's appalling and - reaction to this? well, it's pretty shocking. it's appalling and i - reaction to this? well, it's pretty. shocking. it's appalling and i think it is a _ shocking. it's appalling and i think it is a message to all of those people — it is a message to all of those people who say the police are to woke _ people who say the police are to woke that — people who say the police are to woke that actually there are members of the _ woke that actually there are members of the police that are racist, bigoted. _ of the police that are racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist. it's pretty— bigoted, homophobic, sexist. it's pretty appalling. is it bigoted, homophobic, sexist. it's pretty appalling-— pretty appalling. is it shocking considering — pretty appalling. is it shocking considering the _ pretty appalling. is it shocking considering the reports - pretty appalling. is it shocking considering the reports that i pretty appalling. is it shocking i considering the reports that have come out surrounding the metropolitan police and various whatsapp groups? it metropolitan police and various whatsapp groups?— metropolitan police and various whatsapp groups? it shocking in the sense that people _ whatsapp groups? it shocking in the sense that people feel _ whatsapp groups? it shocking in the sense that people feel so _ whatsapp groups? it shocking in the sense that people feel so brazen - sense that people feel so brazen about _ sense that people feel so brazen about it — sense that people feel so brazen about it that they are prepared to id about it that they are prepared to go on _ about it that they are prepared to go on a _ about it that they are prepared to go on a whatsapp group. and i suppose — go on a whatsapp group. and i suppose you are actually right, charing — suppose you are actually right, charing cross showed how people are

prepared _ charing cross showed how people are prepared to be this racist, but it is still— prepared to be this racist, but it is still shocking to actually see that from _ is still shocking to actually see that from serving police officers, and what — that from serving police officers, and what is very interesting is a lot of— and what is very interesting is a lot of ex — and what is very interesting is a lot of ex police officers walk into 'obs lot of ex police officers walk into jobs like — lot of ex police officers walk into jobs like immigration, and it would be interesting to see what checks organisations do on x police officers _ organisations do on x police officers walking into these kind of jobs _ officers walking into these kind of jobs bo�*e— officers walking into these kind of 'obs. ~ , , . ., ., jobs. we must be clear that the --eole in jobs. we must be clear that the peeple in this — jobs. we must be clear that the people in this whatsapp - jobs. we must be clear that the people in this whatsapp group | jobs. we must be clear that the - people in this whatsapp group were former metropolitan police officers, and the reporter there made the point, why should we care if they are former police officers? on the idea was that there is a culture, a culture that even though they are former, there is a culture that still exists in the metropolitan police. what evidence are you seeing that this is being rooted out? brute that this is being rooted out? we have a new commissioner who has made it very— have a new commissioner who has made it very clear _ have a new commissioner who has made it very clear that he is not prepared _ it very clear that he is not prepared to tolerate this. i think they tried — prepared to tolerate this. i think they tried under the previous commissioner and the attitude was far too— commissioner and the attitude was far too soft — commissioner and the attitude was far too soft and we need zero

tolerance, a bit like sir robert mark— tolerance, a bit like sir robert mark did — tolerance, a bit like sir robert mark did when he was dealing with corruption — mark did when he was dealing with corruption in the 1970s. the police services _ corruption in the 1970s. the police services need to be absolutely ruthless — services need to be absolutely ruthless in identifying these individuals and making sure they are out of— individuals and making sure they are out of the _ individuals and making sure they are out of the organisation, but also being _ out of the organisation, but also being very— out of the organisation, but also being very careful when they are working — being very careful when they are working with x police officers. there — working with x police officers. there is — working with x police officers. there is a _ working with x police officers. there is a culture in the police where — there is a culture in the police where x — there is a culture in the police where x police officers come back and do _ where x police officers come back and do various roles or work with aligned _ and do various roles or work with aligned organisation and it shows clearly— aligned organisation and it shows clearly there needs to be more work done when — clearly there needs to be more work done when you employ these kind of individuals— done when you employ these kind of individuals again.— individuals again. obviously the new commissioner _ individuals again. obviously the new commissioner has _ individuals again. obviously the new commissioner has only _ individuals again. obviously the new commissioner has only been - individuals again. obviously the new commissioner has only been on - individuals again. obviously the new commissioner has only been on thel commissioner has only been on the job a few weeks. what needs to be seenin job a few weeks. what needs to be seen in the early days to show that this is a priority to tackle this? i this is a priority to tackle this? i think he needs to make a very, very clear— think he needs to make a very, very clear statement. he has said that he would _ clear statement. he has said that he would be _ clear statement. he has said that he would be ruthless, that is the word he has _ would be ruthless, that is the word he has used. what we need to see is absolutely— he has used. what we need to see is absolutely evidence that he's prepared to accept this and ensure that he _ prepared to accept this and ensure that he builds resources into the

complaints system so there's enough resources _ complaints system so there's enough resources to deal with officers whose — resources to deal with officers whose behaviour is not acceptable and he _ whose behaviour is not acceptable and he needs to make sure he's listening — and he needs to make sure he's listening to understatement —— listening — listening to understatement —— listening to understatement —— listening to people who understand the organisation and make sure he is prepared _ the organisation and make sure he is prepared to — the organisation and make sure he is prepared to be absolutely clear that this is— prepared to be absolutely clear that this is not— prepared to be absolutely clear that this is not acceptable, but actions will speak— this is not acceptable, but actions will speak louder than words. do you think. _ will speak louder than words. do you think, looking at the metropolitan police _ think, looking at the metropolitan police that racism is more prevalent in the _ police that racism is more prevalent in the force — police that racism is more prevalent in the force than in society? i think— in the force than in society? i think there is a problem with racism in society— think there is a problem with racism in society as — think there is a problem with racism in society as a whole. in some ways the police _ in society as a whole. in some ways the police service are a lightning rod because we are focused on them. one of— rod because we are focused on them. one of the _ rod because we are focused on them. one of the things that struck me, and i_ one of the things that struck me, and i spoke — one of the things that struck me, and i spoke at the national association of muslim police last week— association of muslim police last week and — association of muslim police last week and the highest ranking muslim officer— week and the highest ranking muslim officer in— week and the highest ranking muslim officer in london is a chief inspector, so it's a middle management type role. it has actually— management type role. it has actually gone backwards from where

it was _ actually gone backwards from where it was ten _ actually gone backwards from where it was ten years ago, so the police representation is very important, but i _ representation is very important, but i think— representation is very important, but i think representation in many institutions is lacking. so without proper— institutions is lacking. so without proper representation you are not going — proper representation you are not going to _ proper representation you are not going to be able to tackle these issues _ going to be able to tackle these issues that are prevalent in the police, — issues that are prevalent in the police, and i'm afraid they are prevalent— police, and i'm afraid they are prevalent in society generally, but we see _ prevalent in society generally, but we see more evidence of it in the police _ we see more evidence of it in the police than — we see more evidence of it in the police than other institutions. it police than other institutions. comes police than other institutions. it comes down to recruitment then, doesn't it?— comes down to recruitment then, doesn't it? . doesn't it? the recruitment, when --eole doesn't it? the recruitment, when people talk _ doesn't it? the recruitment, when people talk about _ doesn't it? the recruitment, when people talk about diversity, - people talk about diversity, representation is absolutely crucial and to _ representation is absolutely crucial and to see — representation is absolutely crucial and to see that we have gone backwards in terms of representation in the _ backwards in terms of representation in the police is very, very disappointing. almost a third of the chief constables in this country are women, _ chief constables in this country are women, but we still do not have a single _ women, but we still do not have a single black or ethnic minority, asian _ single black or ethnic minority, asian chief,. and that fact alone tells _ asian chief,. and that fact alone tells you — asian chief,. and that fact alone tells you where we are and the challenges we have —— chief constable. challenges we have -- chief constable.— challenges we have -- chief constable. has mark rowley acknowledged _ constable. has mark rowley

acknowledged that? - constable. has mark rowley acknowledged that? i - constable. has mark rowley acknowledged that? i thinkl constable. has mark rowley l acknowledged that? i think he constable. has mark rowley - acknowledged that? i think he has made it very. _ acknowledged that? i think he has made it very. very _ acknowledged that? i think he has made it very, very clear _ acknowledged that? i think he has made it very, very clear that - acknowledged that? i think he has made it very, very clear that this | made it very, very clear that this is not _ made it very, very clear that this is not acceptable and that representation is very important, but like _ representation is very important, but like i— representation is very important, but like i say, i think the key thing — but like i say, i think the key thing is _ but like i say, i think the key thing is actions as opposed to words. — thing is actions as opposed to words, and i would like to see where we are _ words, and i would like to see where we are in— words, and i would like to see where we are in a _ words, and i would like to see where we are in a year's type, how representative we are in the police service _ representative we are in the police service and — representative we are in the police service and what we are doing to root out — service and what we are doing to root out individual challenges and making _ root out individual challenges and making sure that they are clear it is not _ making sure that they are clear it is not acceptable. this whatsapp group, _ is not acceptable. this whatsapp group, whether it is serving officers _ group, whether it is serving officers or recently retired officers _ officers or recently retired officers gives an indication of the culture _ officers gives an indication of the culture in— officers gives an indication of the culture in some parts of the police service, _ culture in some parts of the police service, that racist, sexist, homophobic culture is not acceptable and needs— homophobic culture is not acceptable and needs to be dealt with in a roost— and needs to be dealt with in a roost -- — and needs to be dealt with in a roost —— ruthless way in the same way sir— roost —— ruthless way in the same way sir robert mark dealt with corruption. way sir robert mark dealt with corruption-— way sir robert mark dealt with corru tion. . ~ ,. , . way sir robert mark dealt with corrution. . ~ ,. , . ., corruption. thank you very much for our time corruption. thank you very much for your time with _ corruption. thank you very much for your time with us _ corruption. thank you very much for your time with us this _ corruption. thank you very much for your time with us this morning. - there'll be more on this story on tonight's newsnight, which is on bbc two at 10.30pm, and also on iplayer. it's time to talk to mike about the

sport. what have you got for us? goals go in the champions league and a bi- goals go in the champions league and a big test— goals go in the champions league and a big test for chelsea who were bottom — a big test for chelsea who were bottom of the champions league group and the _ bottom of the champions league group and the new manager was looking for and the new manager was looking for a first— and the new manager was looking for a first win _ and the new manager was looking for a first win and he got it. a make or break— a first win and he got it. a make or break chance — a first win and he got it. a make or break chance with flying colours against — break chance with flying colours against a — break chance with flying colours against a big side in ac milan. and against a big side in ac milan. and a win— against a big side in ac milan. and a win for— against a big side in ac milan. and a win for manchester city and defeat for celtic— a win for manchester city and defeat for celtic so plenty to tell you about — they might have gone into the games at opposite ends of their champions league groups but both, manchester city and chelsea, had big home wins in the competition last night. while celtic's chances of reaching the knockout stage, were dealt a blow, hit by a defeat in germany. andy swiss has the details. for chelsea, a big night against a big name — ac milan. and after a stuttering start to their campaign, how they rose to the occasion. still battling for it and it is in. wesley fofa na's first chelsea goal settled the nerves and after the break things got even better. that's a straightforward finish. pierre—aymeric aubameyang made it two in

acrobatic fashion before reece james rounded off a comprehensive victory. 3—0 to chelsea, just what they need. at manchester city meanwhile, all eyes were on the goal machine, erling haaland, and with his very first touch in copenhagn, guess what? and haaland! scoring has rarely looked so simple. and another wasn't far away. two for haaland in barely half an hour. fair to say his manager was rather enjoying it. no hat—trick this time, though, as haaland was taken off at the break, but in his absence, city strolled to a 5—0 win. the knockout stage surely beckons. in germany though, it was a bad night for celtic. christopher nkunku gave leipzig the lead, although after the break celtic did level it up. jota keeping his cool as the fans went wild, but not for long, as a mistake from keeper joe hart set up the first of two goals for andre silva. a 3—1 win for leipzig. for celtic, some serious work to do. andy swiss, bbc news.

manchester united travel to cyprus in the europa league tonight, as the talk about the future of cristiano ronaldo, intensifies. he was kept on the bench, during sunday's 6—3 derby defeat, to manchester city. united boss, erik ten hag, said after the game, that he didn't bring on the five—time ballon d'or winner, "out of respect". saturday night's, big fight between conor benn, and chris eubankjunior, is in serious doubt, after the, british boxing board of control, refused to sanction it, saying it wasn't, "in the interests of boxing". it follows benn, returning, what is being called, an, "adverse ana—lytical finding, for trace amounts of a, fertility drug". promoters say, he has not been suspended. and remains free to fight in london, because his b sample, has yet, to be tested. however, without the blessing of, british boxing's, governing body,

the promoters, will have to find another organisation, to sanction it and benn insists he deserves the chance. i have not committed any violations, i've not been suspended, so as far as i'm concerned, the fight is still going ahead. i've spoken to chris personally and we both want the fight to go ahead. you know, all of my uk tests have come back negative and throughout my whole career i've never had any issues before. even in the lead up to this fight, might tests have come up negative, so my team will find out why there has been an initial reverse finding in my test. worcester warriors players will have their contracts terminated and can leave _ their contracts terminated and can leave and — their contracts terminated and can leave and some have already. it took less than _ leave and some have already. it took less than a _ leave and some have already. it took less than a minute to wind up the part of— less than a minute to wind up the part of the — less than a minute to wind up the part of the club that employs all the players and staff at a hearing in the _ the players and staff at a hearing in the high court. the hmrc had been pursuing _ in the high court. the hmrc had been pursuing worcester warriors who are suspended _ pursuing worcester warriors who are suspended from all competitions since _ suspended from all competitions since august for unpaid tax of

around — since august for unpaid tax of around £6 million, meaning all contracts— around £6 million, meaning all contracts are terminated and all debts _ contracts are terminated and all debts remain unpaid and outstanding. one of— debts remain unpaid and outstanding. one of the _ debts remain unpaid and outstanding. one of the players has been explaining how much it hurts. this the last few months have been very tough. i've had a couple of cries in the car on the way home, thinking about how i'm going explain this to my partner, who is with my one—year—old son. seeing the boys' faces today has been super emotional, and there's a lot of good rugby players, but more importantly, good people. yes, the summer signing said the players _ yes, the summer signing said the players had been treated like a piece _ players had been treated like a piece of— players had been treated like a piece of meat. and the captain responding to a statement from the chief executive of premiership rugby saying _ chief executive of premiership rugby saying our— chief executive of premiership rugby saying our thoughts are with everybody saying, it's not your thoughts — everybody saying, it's not your thoughts we need. it's really hard for the _ thoughts we need. it's really hard for the players. some have gone on loan and _ for the players. some have gone on loan and will find other clubs, others — loan and will find other clubs, others may struggle and then the fans, _ others may struggle and then the fans. the — others may struggle and then the fans, the fans of any rugby or football— fans, the fans of any rugby or football club will understand this feeling, — football club will understand this feeling, no longer have i got a club

to support, — feeling, no longer have i got a club to support, at the moment, unless somehow— to support, at the moment, unless somehow a — to support, at the moment, unless somehow a miracle can be performed and a _ somehow a miracle can be performed and a new— somehow a miracle can be performed and a new benefactor can come in from _ and a new benefactor can come in from somewhere but there's a lot to do if they— from somewhere but there's a lot to do if they want to turn the club around — do if they want to turn the club around. lt— do if they want to turn the club around. . , , , ., around. it really brings it home because you — around. it really brings it home because you talk _ around. it really brings it home because you talk about - around. it really brings it home because you talk about the - around. it really brings it home - because you talk about the relation to business and contracts and you hear a young man saying, how do i explain this to my family and how will we earn money.— will we earn money. fulfilled his dream by becoming _ will we earn money. fulfilled his dream by becoming a _ will we earn money. fulfilled his. dream by becoming a professional rugby— dream by becoming a professional rugby player, got a club, and it's gone _ rugby player, got a club, and it's gone like — rugby player, got a club, and it's gone like that.— gone like that. thank you, mike. good morning — gone like that. thank you, mike. good morning to _ gone like that. thank you, mike. good morning to you. _ gone like that. thank you, mike. good morning to you. carol- gone like that. thank you, mike. good morning to you. carol is i good morning to you. carol is looking at the weather for us this morning. i am looking at this picture and more optimistic than your last one. a mixture of sunshine and showers last time i showed you showers but now i'm showing you sunshine full stop good morning, by the way. the other thing is it is a cooler start across england and wales than yesterday, a good five or 10 degrees cooler, so sunshine and showers will be the order of the day with rain coming into the north later, and it

will be another windy day. you can tell that by looking at the array of isobars which are tightly packed and we have the weather front coming in which will bring rain later and the other weather front is producing cloud across northern england and wales and we will see rain coming in by the middle of the morning. but we are starting with showers in western scotland and we will continue with them as we go through the day and as them as we go through the day and as the weather front approaches, it will bring in some rain across central and western parts of scotland, just edging northwards and fringing into the north of northern ireland and we could catch the odd shower in south wales and south—west england today. these white circles represent the sustained wind speed, so the gust will be a lot more in parts of scotland, especially with exposure looking at gusts of 50 miles an hour and it will be quite squally with temperatures between 11 and 19 degrees. this band of rain moves northwards but we have a new one coming in and this one will merge with that one, so whichever

way you look at it, it will be wet. the rain is moving across scotland and northern ireland. windy around with squally winds and cooler behind it and still some showers ahead of it and still some showers ahead of it but not as cold further south. we pick up the squally rain tomorrow as it continues tojourney pick up the squally rain tomorrow as it continues to journey steadily southwards and behind it we see a return to showers and some of them will be heavy and thundery like today and this takes its time to get into the south—east is a narrowing band, but it will still be windy around and temperatures between 11 and 19 degrees. as we head into the weekend, friday into saturday, the ridge of high pressure builds across us and it will be with us on saturday, so quiet weather but you can see what is coming our way as we into sunday. for saturday itself, some mist and fog to start with the ridge of high pressure it will disperse quickly. for most of us a dry day on saturday but the cloud will build out towards the west and we could catch one or two showers

across western scotland, for example and it won't be as windy at this stage. temperatures between 11 and 17 degrees. as for sunday, all change. we have the system coming on across the north and west introducing heavier rain and also windy conditions which is pushing south, but it will be quieter on monday. carol, thank you. from roles in die hard and the harry potter movies to treading the boards in shakespeare plays, alan rickman won fans of all ages and genres before his death in 2016. for more than 20 years, he also kept a diary — written by hand and packed with anecdotes and razor—sharp observations about the people in his life. those people

included his wife, rima horton, and his great friend dame emma thompson — who shared some of their memories with me, as those diaries are published. but a little reminder of him in the movies. there will be no foolish wand—waving or silly incantations in this class. that's a very nice suit, mr takagi. it would be a shame to ruin it. this is my other slightly special, personal. thank you. i really, truly, madly love you. i really, truly, madly deeply, love you. i really, truly, madly, deeply, passionately love you. i really truly, madly, deeply, passionately ,remarkably love you. all is well, i've got all my money back and robin is dead and i'm going to be king, all as predicted. rima, lovely to meet you. and you. lovely to see you here. on the occasion of your husband's amazing diaries. the first question i have to ask you is, did you know? did you know they existed

and how much there was. oh, yes. i remember he wrote them every night and i knew about them. i didn't read them because they were private but i knew he wrote them. day by day, who you met, what are you up to. were there bits of it that surprised you? i think what i was pleased about more than anything was his humour, because he was very, very funny, alan, and the humour is very much in the book. and it soundsjust like him. rima, reading between the lines, in a way, the reason he was able to do so much and be so good, i think a lot of people this, and maybe you have said this too, is because of you. you know, there was a constant thing which meant he could go out and befriend people, do his thing. is that something...? he says quite a few times in the diaries, something i didn't know he's written. "and then rima turned up, and i calmed down." so i did that role in his life of, i suppose, keeping him stabilised. alan was a classic pisces, swimming in two directions at once, and because i was an aquarian,

i was quite a good balance to that. i've got a little excert here i'm seeing from the 21st of january 199a. leave a rude night for emma. that's you, right? yeah. do you know? 9a? was it in los angeles. it must have been los angeles. it was, and alan and i came back home on the plane. yes, he mentioned that and how lovely it was to spend time with you on the plane. and we laughed, and laughed and laughed, and i remember him telling a story about being very close to a cat and someone who had farted very loudly and it had parted the cat's hair, and ijust remember him telling that story in business class on british airways and sort of doing that thing of going backwards and forwards. he was so funny, alan. that's the thing. you don't necessarily get that from all of it. his performances are so

extraordinary, but when he is funny, oh, my god, he is hilarious. can you explain the thing that for some people he felt maybe, and i'm going to say this because i know it's not true, but a little unapproachable. but he had that manner that maybe people were a little bit uneasy around him. he was terrifying. that's fine, because he was such a kind of, he had such dignity and enormous intelligence. and he was not a frivolous person in any way at all, was he? well, he could be occasionally. very occasionally, rima. i'm sure. for instance, like new year's eve, when we had a few drinks, he could get quite giggly and silly, but generally speaking he was a very deep thinker and he took the world very seriously and his role in it and his role in it very, profoundly seriously which is why he was a great artist, actually. emma, it would be wrong of me

on behalf of everyone watching this to not ask about you, alan rickman and love, actually. i am so in love. a classic fool. yes, but ou've also made a fool out of me. you've made the life i lead foolish too. we were having a conversation before, and everyone was saying, that film... how special was that time with him? we didn't have very long on it. the strange thing about this profession is, first of all, you end up learning about and meeting people you would otherwise not come into contact with, and then you end up playing their wives, or their divorced wives or their colleagues, or their sisters or their lovers, or their murderers. i mean, it's really a strange profession and alan and i had energies that were almost entirely opposite.

his was subterranean and mysterious and dark. and mine was canine, and above ground and ebullient, so it was like having eeyore and piglet on set, basically, and that is what it was like with love, actually. i would be bouncing around doing piglet and he would just about put up with my kind of small pinkness. there is a great quote i've got from the 8th of january, when he was not well but it wasn't towards the end. and he said that doctors came round, after dealing with catheters and drainage and then nervously got to the point — "how did you do the fall at the end of die—hard?" they asked? you can imagine

the scene, can't she? he's being administered to by the doctors and then, boom. did he always get those kind of questions? yes, he did. always. that was quite a common one, the die hard drop, but the other ones were basically harry potter. it's fascinating hearing people reminisce, because all of the diary entries are exquisite and his character really comes through because some of them are quite acerbic about his colleagues, people he worked with, but they are all compelling and it's lovely hearing those stories.— compelling and it's lovely hearing those stories. really lovely. good interview, that. _ time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. most rail services are getting back to normal this morning, following strike action yesterday. but passengers using gwr trains into and out of paddington are being warned that industrial action will continue into the weekend. thousands of train drivers and other

employees have walked out in a dispute over pay and conditions. gwr is advising people to only use trains if absolutely necessary. from this morning, you'll be able to hire electric bikes from transport for london. 500 e—bikes — like this one which the mayor of london tried out last year — will be available. there are now more than 800 docking stations in the capital. american football fans packed out tottenham hotspur stadium at the weekend as nfl returned to the capital. and now the search is on to find the future stars of the sport in london. talent spotters from the united states have been at spurs this week putting hopefuls through their paces. it's been fun, competitive. i enjoyed it, you know? i love competition, so i'm all here for it. i think my chances are strong. there's always room for improvement, and i've always believed that. there's areas i'm going to work from probably monday but give myself a little time off.

bfi london film festival's immersive art and extended realities strand opens today on leake street. and for the first time the lff expanded show has teamed up with the national theatre and the barbican. lff extended is the new strand for immersive art and extended realities here at the bfi london film festival. we branch out into new forms of storytelling, virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality, immersive audio, and we always use cinema as a jumping off point. let's take a look at the tube board this morning. there's a good service on the tubes. now the weather with kawser. good morning. quite a chilly start to the day, but it is a bright and breezy one with a ridge of high pressure andplenty of dry weather and good spells of sunshine around, especially during the course of the morning. here is the map and you can see plenty of sunshine around but we will see more in the way of cloud bubbling up as we head into the afternoon, spreading in from the west,

but still plenty of breaks to allow the sunshine through and temperatures reaching around the upper teens. through the evening, it remains fairly breezy, clear skies and some cloud around at times but less cold than last night with overnight lows dipping to around eight to 10 celsius, so less chilly, certainly, but there could be one or two cooler spots. looking ahead to friday, there is this cold front and the potential it could bring squally showers into friday afternoon but it should clear away for the weekend, so generally the weekend is looking fairly settled and dry. so for the outlook, today is largely fine and right with good spells of sunshine. the chance of some squally showers later on on friday and then for the weekend, fairly dry, settled conditions for the most part and temperatures generally reaching around the mid to high teens. i'm back in half an hour. but there's lots on our website and social media including more on what's being showcased at this year's bfi london film festival. bye for now.

good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... the royal college of nursing ballots its members across the uk for strike action over pay — the first vote of its kind in its 106—year history. a public inquiry will hear from parents whose children died after being infected with hiv from contaminated blood products in the 19805. in the hospital, a woman had me on one side saying michael is going to die. no, he is not. sorry.

huge relief for chelsea in the champions league. they're back in the running, after a 3—0 win, against italian giants ac milan, to give their new english boss graham potter, his first ever win in the competition. the man behind edinburgh's most famous detective joins us on the sofa. rebus was only meant to feature in one book — the 2ath in the series is about to be published. it is going to be windy. all the details later in the programme. it's thursday the 6th of october. our main story. hundreds of thousands of nurses across the uk are being asked if they're willing to walk out over pay. the royal college of nursing is balloting its members for strike action for the first time in the union's106—year history. the rcn wants a payrise of 5% above inflation, but no uk nation has offered close to that. our correspondent, caroline davies has more. through the darkest days

of the pandemic, the uk's nurses were some of the nation's heroes. of the pandemic, the uk's nurses now, they're being balloted to strike over pay. my love for it was to make a difference in people's lives. and that's why i am here. but then, sometimes when i look at it, it's like, is it really worth it? victoria is a mental health nurse in an nhs trust. after she came back from maternity leave, she went part time and receives universal credit because she says her pay wouldn't cover the cost of childcare if she worked full time. even now, she struggles. sometimes you end up having not enough money to feed yourself, or even feed your children. if i'm going to work, and i'm... i'm making a difference in people's lives, ifeel like i should be able to be compensated and have enough pay for myself to sustain myself and even look after my children. the rcn is asking for a pay rise of 5% on top of inflation, something no uk nation has offered.

the ballot will open today until the 2nd of november. nurses in northern ireland have been on strike before but, if this vote goes through, it will be the first time in the rcn's 106—year history that there's been a nationwide strike. not all nurses would walk out. some, whose work is considered to be life—preserving, or if it wasn't administered would lead to permanent disability, will continue to work, too. but this strike is intended to disrupt, and it's likely to come at a time when winter pressures are starting to build. the rcn say they have no other choice. is this the responsible thing to do — to take strike action when we're coming into winter? you see, this is about nurses trying to get ministers to actually stand up and listen to the dire straits that they are in, trying every day to look after their patients. the department of health and social care in england has said it values the work of nhs nurses and is supporting them by giving them a pay rise of at least £1,a00 a year.

scotland's health secretary suggested yesterday that he'd be making an improved offer. other unions are also planning, or have started balloting their health workers. there may be anger over pay, but any form of strike will affect patient care. caroline davies, bbc news. pat cullen is the chief executive of the royal college of nursing — and shejoins us now from our london newsroom. thank you very much for your time this morning. why is the ballot taking place now?— this morning. why is the ballot taking place now? nursing staff had tried for years _ taking place now? nursing staff had tried for years to _ taking place now? nursing staff had tried for years to get _ taking place now? nursing staff had tried for years to get this _ tried for years to get this government to listen to their plea, to stand up and listen to the fact that we have hundreds and thousands of vacant nursing posts right across the country. nurses trying everyday to provide the best and safe pair for their patients. they cannot do that with a depleted workforce have

at this time. we are draining staff every single day. nurses cannot pay their bills with the wage they are receiving from this government at this time. is receiving from this government at this time. , , ., .,. receiving from this government at this time. , , ., ., this time. is this an act of desperation? _ this time. is this an act of desperation? it _ this time. is this an act of desperation? it probablyl this time. is this an act of. desperation? it probably is. this time. is this an act of- desperation? it probably is. when ou feel a desperation? it probably is. when you feel a government _ desperation? it probably is. when you feel a government has - desperation? it probably is. when you feel a government has turned| desperation? it probably is. when i you feel a government has turned its back on the people that carried us through the pandemic, the people that this government stood on doorsteps and clapped for and now it is almost as if they are invisible. people who are speaking up for patients and saying, please listen to us, please come on—board with us and do the decent thing for nursing staff and patients we are trying to careful. it does seem some one has to listen at some stage. the government seems to had turned its back on nursing. this government seems to had turned its back on nursing-— back on nursing. this would have been their— back on nursing. this would have been their first _ back on nursing. this would have been their first uk _ back on nursing. this would have been their first uk wide - back on nursing. this would have been their first uk wide strike i back on nursing. this would have been their first uk wide strike ifl been their first uk wide strike if it were to take place in its 106 year history of nursing, the royal

couege year history of nursing, the royal college of nursing. is it a step... that makes it a major step for to go on strike. what is the sentiment around this that is driving people into that position? i around this that is driving people into that position?— into that position? i think those firures into that position? i think those figures speak— into that position? i think those figures speak for _ into that position? i think those figures speak for themselves. l into that position? i think those j figures speak for themselves. it shows that nurses do not take these decisions lightly. in 106 years, thatis decisions lightly. in 106 years, that is the first time for that they had given this very careful thought. we have done a lot of talking. we had tried to have meeting after meeting with government ministers. i have met with emma on a number of occasions. —— met with ben on a number of occasions. nurses want something very simple, they want to be able to come and shift every day not with a feeling of dread they will not be able to provide a safe care they need for patients. they also want to make sure they can fill the hundreds of thousands of vacant posts. that is not a lot to ask. it

is up to every minister listening this morning, particularly the health secretary and the prime minister. i would say to them, please do not push nurses to this position. they had not done it in 106 years. there is a determination and courage among nursing staff because they know every patient is getting a poor deal in the health service because they are not able to provide a safe and expect pair every patient deserves. you provide a safe and expect pair every patient deserves.— patient deserves. you are probably well aware there _ patient deserves. you are probably well aware there may _ patient deserves. you are probably well aware there may well - patient deserves. you are probably well aware there may well be i well aware there may well be sympathy amongst the public for nurses and what you are asking for in terms of pay. in the same breath people may be very scared about the prospect of nurses being on strike and what it would look like in practice. and what it would look like in ractice. ., ., ., ., practice. how would it work? i had the privilege _ practice. how would it work? i had the privilege of— practice. how would it work? i had the privilege of being _ practice. how would it work? i had the privilege of being the - practice. how would it work? i had the privilege of being the directorl the privilege of being the director in northern ireland the first time we led a nurses strike in northern ireland. the first time in 103

years. what i would say to the public, nurses had never turned their back on any patient. even during a strike, we made our patients were still kept safe and cared for. we will add no additional risk to the risk patients are facing every single day as a consequence of not having the right numbers and right expertise of nursing staff looking after them. it is not our intention to add any further risk or unsafe pair to patients. we will do this safely, effectively and professionally and we will walk this journey with our patients. what we are asking this government to do is to walk thisjourney are asking this government to do is to walk this journey with us. they can prevent this happening. every one of then listening this morning needs to search their souls and hearts and do the decent thing for nursing. when they do that they will do the decent thing for patients. it

do the decent thing for patients. it is complicated that inasmuch as among the devolved nations there are separate agreements. in england nursing staff got a pay rise of £1a00. nursing staff got a pay rise of £1400. why is nursing staff got a pay rise of £1a00. why is it nursing staff should be awarded 5% above inflation, just at a time when other people have either had a freeze or are getting nowhere near those numbers? if are getting nowhere near those numbers? , , ., ., numbers? if we distill this down to the reality of _ numbers? if we distill this down to the reality of £1400 _ numbers? if we distill this down to the reality of £1400 the _ numbers? if we distill this down to i the reality of £1400 the government the reality of £1a00 the government without nurses deserved, it equates to around 72p a week. we are not asking for the salaries of bankers or billionaires. that seems to be the focus of this government. we are asking for a decent wage for our nursing staff so they can continue to do the brilliantjob they do every day for their patients, so that we can absolutely retain their

staff we have got and bring into our profession the highly expert nursing staff we are training through our universities, so they are not drained out of our countries and into other countries and they are sought—after all over the world. 72p a week will not cut this. they need to give them a decent wage so they can look afterfamilies, to give them a decent wage so they can look after families, pay bills and ensure their children are looked after and they can travel to work. i after and they can travel to work. i do not think that is a lot to ask. i understand you are seeking to have a negotiation. is there a number... the figure you have used is the pay award should be 5% above inflation. what is the actual pay reward you would call off this ballot for strike action for? it would call off this ballot for strike action for?— would call off this ballot for strike action for? it is that, 596 above inflation. _ strike action for? it is that, 596 above inflation. that _ strike action for? it is that, 596 above inflation. that is - strike action for? it is that, 596 above inflation. that is what . strike action for? it is that, 596 i above inflation. that is what our nursing staff are looking for this government to provide for nursing staff. . ~

government to provide for nursing staff. . ,, , ., government to provide for nursing staff. . ~' , ., , government to provide for nursing staff. . ,, , ., , . government to provide for nursing staff. . ~ , . ., staff. thank you very much for your time. staff. thank you very much for your time- that — staff. thank you very much for your time. that ballot _ staff. thank you very much for your time. that ballot will _ staff. thank you very much for your time. that ballot will be _ staff. thank you very much for your time. that ballot will be taking i time. that ballot will be taking place today. a public inquiry will hear evidence today from families who lost children in what's been called the worst treatment disaster in nhs history. documents seen by the bbc show 175 children were infected with hiv in the 1980s, after being given contaminated blood during treatment for haemophilia. one of the parents giving evidence this morning has been speaking to our health correspondent, jim reed. he's always been well—behaved. full of life, as usual, like little boys are, you know. linda's son, michael, was just a toddler when she was told he had haemophilia — a genetic disorder, which stopped his blood clotting properly. he was always on the go. he always wanted to keep busy. the haemophilia would stop him sometimes, but... ..he just learned to cope with it.

in 1982, here at birmingham children's hospital, michael was switched to a brand—new treatment, imported from the united states. but factor v!!! was made from blood donated by prisoners and other at—risk groups. whole batches were contaminated with hepatitis, and later hiv. the doctor, of course, he said, michael, is hiv positive. and he just came out with it as though he was talking about the weather outside. you know, what i mean? on the way home, i had to tell my husband when we got in the car. and it was silent all the way home. we never spoke. it was such a shock, you know. how did michael react to being told that himself? did he speak to you about it? well, he went very quiet. he went very quiet. and he said he didn't want any family to know. he never told his friends or anything. hejust wanted to be normal, see. there is now a danger that has become a threat to us all. michael was diagnosed with hiv,

aged 16, in 1986, just as this hard—hitting tv campaign was launched. if you ignore aids, it could be the death of you. was he angry about what happened? yes. oh, yes, he was. i mean, i tried to be so positive for him — to think that he wasn't going to pass away. and even in the hospital, the woman had me on one side and she said, "you know, michael's going to die." and i said, "no, he's not," you know. sorry. it just seems like yesterday still. michael died a week before his 26th birthday. he was one of 175 children infected with hiv after being given the same contaminated treatment. just couldn't believe what was happening, you know.

today, linda will give evidence to the public inquiry into the disaster. i felt as though i needed to do it to help get to the bottom of it, because i think we all want to know why it was allowed to happen. that long—running public inquiry is nowjust months away from concluding. many families will finally be hoping for some answers decades after their loved ones were infected. jim reed, bbc news. multiple explosions have been heard in the southern ukrainian city of zaporizhzhia this morning. the governor of the region says rockets were aimed at residential buildings and that there has been significant destruction. our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams, sent this report from the city. this is the main avenue running right through the middle of zaporizhzhia. in front of me is an old apartment block, where a gaping hole has been blown in the middle of it.

there is a huge pile of rubble. there is grey, black smoke drifting up out of the wreckage into the morning sky. across the street, windows have been blown out in shops, and the fence down the middle of the road, the wrought—iron fence down the middle—of—the—road... so powerful was this explosion that the fence in the middle of the road was blown out. there are firemen crawling around the wreckage, presumably looking for survivors. we think that maybe some have already been pulled out. it is hard to see how. this happened about a couple of hours ago, an hour or so before dawn. in our hotel, which is not farfrom here, we heard

multiple explosions, and it quickly became apparent this was worse than usual. explosions in zaporizhzhia are not uncommon but wreckage like this definitely is. that report was from our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams. at least 15 people have died after two boats carrying migrants sank in the aegean sea. a rescue operation for survivors was underway in the early hours of this morning. it came after a dinghy believed to be carrying around a0 people got into difficulty near the greek island of lesbos — which lies close to turkey — and a second boat hit rocks off the island of kythira. protests against the iranian regime have entered their third week — following the death of a 22—year—old woman in police custody. schoolgirls and students have been defying the country's strict laws on wearing head coverings, after mahsa amini was detained for not wearing her hijab correctly. a number of demonstrators have been

injured or killed as protests spread across the country. rana rahinpour reports. this was nika shahkarami. a typical shy teenager, seen here singing karaoke with friends. she was killed by iran's security forces a few days before her 17th birthday. she was one of thousands of teenagers, protesting against the islamic republic of iran. opposition is growing. even schoolchildren have joined the protests, including this 1a—year—old girl. translation: a lot of teachers do agree with us, but they don't i dare to say anything. boys have not chanted any slogans yet, but they show their protests in some sort of ways, such as writing on the benches, walls or distributing papers of slogans

and collaborating with each other inside the school. pupils are burning the pictures of the leader of the islamic revolution, chasing away pro—government school officials, and showing their middle finger to the ideology that has oppressed them for years. it all started three weeks ago with the death of this woman — 22—year—old mahsa amini. she died in the custody of the notorious morality police. she was accused of not wearing the hijab properly. with restrictions on reporting on the ground, videos shared online are vital evidence in understanding how things are unfolding. the bbc and independent media are not allowed to report from iran, butjournalists here across bbc persian and bbc monitoring have been gathering videos from social media and speaking to witnesses, tracking where protests broke out in the first few weeks. by using landmarks, the team can pinpoint the location of the protests.

we've analysed more than 1,000 videos verifying at least 300 protests since amini's death. the protests have continued despite ayatollah ali khamenei's warning on monday that they were riots, orchestrated by the west. his warning hasn't scared these young girls, who no longer want to see his face in their classrooms. instead, they wrote their dreams behind his framed picture, equality and freedom, to turn this page of iran's history. rana rahimpour, bbc news. that is something we will continue to follow here on the bbc. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. some of us are off to a beautiful

start to the day. look at this picture in norfolk. some of the starting off with sunshine. we also have showers, which have been thundering and heavy already. also gusty winds. we are looking at gas of 50 miles today. one or two showers across the north of england and north wales. in the midlands and east anglia, southern counties, largely driver sunshine to start with. there will —— the cloud will be thick enough for rain. more rain sweeping in across central scotland and also the north of northern ireland. wendy today. temperatures 11 to 19 degrees. this evening and overnight one band of rain moves north. windy round it but it will be a windy night. pull behind the

weather front. a windy night. pull behind the weatherfront. not a windy night. pull behind the weather front. not as cool as we push further south. this band of school a rain continues to sink south tomorrow, eradicating their bright start in the south. it is a narrowing band will not get into the south—east till much later. once again the cocktail are bright spells, sunshine and showers. some will be heavy and thundery. once again it will be quite a windy day. lots has been spoken about with regard to the mortgage market. we have seen products withdrawn. the chancellor will meet with bank executives today to discuss mortgage lending. lots of people if they are applying for a mortgage will be seeing rates we have not seenin seen in decades. the chancellor

insists this is a regular meeting and it is not an emergency. there will be more _ and it is not an emergency. there will be more interested _ and it is not an emergency. there will be more interested in - and it is not an emergency. there will be more interested in this i will be more interested in this meeting today. it will be more interested in this meeting today.— will be more interested in this meetin: toda . , ., ., meeting today. it might be a regular meetin: meeting today. it might be a regular meeting that — meeting today. it might be a regular meeting that an _ meeting today. it might be a regular meeting that an irregular— meeting that an irregular conversation. it meeting that an irregular conversation.— meeting that an irregular conversation. , . ., , ., conversation. it is clearly a huge toic conversation. it is clearly a huge topic affecting — conversation. it is clearly a huge topic affecting so _ conversation. it is clearly a huge topic affecting so many - conversation. it is clearly a huge topic affecting so many people i conversation. it is clearly a huge | topic affecting so many people at the moment. the average two year fixed rate has gone up now to over 6%, theirfirst fixed rate has gone up now to over 6%, their first time fixed rate has gone up now to over 6%, theirfirst time in 1a fixed rate has gone up now to over 6%, their first time in 1a years the 6%, their first time in 1a years the 6% mark has been breached, making mortgage rates the highest they have been since the financial crash in 2008. less than two years ago you would have been looking at a fixed rate of around 2%. a lot of people will be looking to remortgage and could see payments almost doubled really compared with what they have got used to in recent years. late got used to in recent years. we cannot forget all of this has been escalating since the mini budget. it escalating since the mini budget. iii prompted banks to take more than

1000 products of the market. they have started to come back. because of the continuing economic uncertainty they are only coming back at much higher rates. this will affect people gradually. on average 100,000 people are looking to remortgage. it affects first—time buyers as well. it sounds like a big number that people will really feel at the moment where it effects them. it will happen gradually over the next year or so. representatives from barclays, natwest and lloyds will be at this meeting today. lats will be at this meeting today. lots of --eole will be at this meeting today. lots of people will _ will be at this meeting today. lots of people will watch very closely. it will not have an immediate impact, will it? late it will not have an immediate impact, will it?— impact, will it? we are not expecting _ impact, will it? we are not expecting any _ impact, will it? we are not expecting any particular. impact, will it? we are not - expecting any particular outcome, no. alan rickman is one of those actors, died in 2016, if you knew he was in a film can make you knew something was going to happen, didn't you? i

would have liked him to have been my friend. he is that kind of person you are intrigued by. he was the arch villain in so many movies. we have learned more more about his character, someone who always helped others in the industry is very, very funny. we have been sitting down for a chat with two people who knew him so well, alan's wife rima horton and his great friend dame emma thompson. if you asked him to do anything, he would just do it meant no questions asked. he would 'ust do it meant no questions asked. . , . , ~ would 'ust do it meant no questions asked. . , . , ,, ., asked. he was incredible like that. i remember _ asked. he was incredible like that. i remember one _ asked. he was incredible like that. i remember one night, _ asked. he was incredible like that. i remember one night, literally i asked. he was incredible like that. i remember one night, literally on | i remember one night, literally on the night, i was about to do a benefit or charity in with robert lindsay. he rang on the day saying he had this terrible flu. it has

suddenly hit me and i have a temperature and cannot stand up. i rang alan and i said, i know you probably cannot. in the car, there he was. �* ., ., ~ he was. another thing about allen, he was. another thing about allen, he did things _ he was. another thing about allen, he did things first _ he was. another thing about allen, he did things first thing _ he was. another thing about allen, he did things first thing in - he was. another thing about allen, he did things first thing in the i he did things first thing in the morning _ he did things first thing in the morning. he was brilliant and never procrastinating. hejust morning. he was brilliant and never procrastinating. he just got on with things— procrastinating. he just got on with things and — procrastinating. he just got on with things and dealt with it, almost, immediately. i things and dealt with it, almost, immediately-— immediately. i am for procrastination. i- immediately. i am for procrastination. i can| immediately. i am for- procrastination. i can imagine immediately. i am for— procrastination. i can imagine him being light, no, get on with it. he went on i did things and also had a very withering way about his demeanour which all the people who knew him well said was something of a front because he was something of a front because he was soft inside. here was help people out. he had that look and voice everyone talked about. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. most rail services are getting back to normal this morning

following strike action yesterday. but passengers using gwr trains into and out of paddington are being warned that industrial action will continue into the weekend. thousands of train drivers and other employees have walked out in a dispute over pay and conditions. gwr is advising people to only use trains if absolutely necessary. from this morning you'll be able to hire electric bikes from transport for london. 500 e—bikes — like this one which the mayor of london tried out last year — will be available. there are now more than 800 docking stations in the capital. american football fans packed out tottenham hotspur stadium at the weekend as nfl returned to the capital. and now the search is on to find the future stars of the sport in london. talent spotters from the united states have been at spurs this week putting hopefuls through their paces. it's been fun, competitive. i enjoyed it, you know? i love competition, so i'm all here for it. i think my chances are strong. there's always room for improvement,

and i've always believed that. there's areas i'm going to work from probably monday but give myself a little time off. bfi london film festival's immersive art and extended realities strand opens today on leake street. and for the first time the lff expanded show has teamed up with the national theatre and the barbican. lff expanded is the new strand for immersive art and extended realities here at the bfi london film festival. we branch out into new forms of storytelling, virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality, immersive audio, and we always use cinema as a jumping off point. let's take a look at the tube board this morning. there's a good service on the tubes — just the oveerground with minor delays. now the weather with kawser. good morning. quite a chilly start to the day, but it is a bright and breezy one with a ridge of high pressure

andplenty of dry weather and good spells of sunshine around, especially during the course of the morning. here is the map and you can see plenty of sunshine around but we will see more in the way of cloud bubbling up as we head into the afternoon, spreading in from the west, but still plenty of breaks to allow the sunshine through and temperatures reaching around the upper teens. through the evening, it remains fairly breezy, clear skies and some cloud around at times but less cold than last night with overnight lows dipping to around eight to 10 celsius, so less chilly, certainly, but there could be one or two cooler spots. looking ahead to friday, there is this cold front and the potential it could bring squally showers into friday afternoon but it should clear away for the weekend, so generally the weekend is looking fairly settled and dry. so for the outlook, today is largely fine and right with good spells of sunshine. the chance of some squally showers later on on friday and then for the weekend, fairly dry, settled conditions for the most part and temperatures generally reaching around the mid to high teens.

i'm back in an hour. but there's lots on our website and social media including more on what's being showcased at this year's bfi london film festival. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. universities must do more to contact the family and friends of students who are struggling with poor mental health — even without the student's permission. that's the new guidance being issued today by universities uk — which represents 1a0 higher education institutions. it's a bid to tackle the tragedy of around 100 students taking their own lives each year in the uk. we're joined now by professor steve west, president of universities uk, and isabella de george, who lost her brother harrison to suicide in 2020.

good morning to you and thank you so much for talking to us about what is such a personal story for you and i think it is only right, and i am so sorry for your loss, because it is sorry for your loss, because it is so recent, and i am sure still raw, and this message you are putting out now is so important.— now is so important. thank you very much. i completely _ now is so important. thank you very much. i completely agree _ now is so important. thank you very much. i completely agree it's i now is so important. thank you very much. i completely agree it's really| much. i completely agree it's really important, because losing my brother has been absolutely awful and it's been a really, really hard nearly two years now. idistill]! been a really, really hard nearly two years now— been a really, really hard nearly two years now. will you share with us what you _ two years now. will you share with us what you will _ two years now. will you share with us what you will about _ two years now. will you share with us what you will about what - two years now. will you share with us what you will about what you i two years now. will you share with i us what you will about what you know about harrison towards the end, and what you think might have helped. harrison was studying a pgce in secondary maths education at the time he passed away and he was on placement at a local college. i think with harrison, he was very good at hiding, towards us, that he

was struggling. he was living up in manchester at the time and we were living down south and i think he didn't want to worry us, but i think if the university had been able to share information about harrison, this could have potentially saved his life, because i think we would have ended up taking him home and looking after him in that way, but we also found that harrison's placement did not contact the university, did not contact harrison and also did not contact us to let us know that he had not turned up that day, and i think if the university had been able to contact us and how that information of our contact details, they would have been able to alert us sooner as well. , ., �* , ., been able to alert us sooner as well. ., , ., well. isabella, there's a couple of thins well. isabella, there's a couple of things you _ well. isabella, there's a couple of things you brought _ well. isabella, there's a couple of things you brought up _ well. isabella, there's a couple of things you brought up there. i well. isabella, there's a couple of| things you brought up there. one, the factory were contacted and we will get to that in a moment, but the other point is that there didn't appear to be monitoring of harrison at his placement, so when he didn't turn up, it wasn't addressed until i

think by one teacher later that afternoon, but it was just not considered out of the blue. afternoon, but it wasjust not considered out of the blue. no,, they should _ considered out of the blue. no,, they should have _ considered out of the blue. no,, they should have contacted i considered out of the blue. firm... they should have contacted harrison and the university to say that harrison had never turned up that day. i am a harrison had never turned up that day. iam a nurse, and in my background i've done lots of placements and it was very much drilled into us that if you don't turn up to placement and you don't let somebody know where you are, the university will come and look for you and it did not seem that that was very much the case with harrison. i don't think that they treated him with that respect of, you know what, we are treating you like an employee, so we should be treating you with the same respect we would treat any other employee as well. �* , , . ., we would treat any other employee as well. �* , , .., ,., well. and there is the second point about whether _ well. and there is the second point about whether you _ well. and there is the second point about whether you as _ well. and there is the second point about whether you as a _ well. and there is the second point about whether you as a family i well. and there is the second point| about whether you as a family were contacted. one of the things we are talking about now is about universities being given a trusted person assigned by the students themselves, but you won't contacted

to be told he was missing either, or he had not turned up. hie. to be told he was missing either, or he had not turned up.— he had not turned up. no, we were contacted- — he had not turned up. no, we were contacted- we _ he had not turned up. no, we were contacted. we actually _ he had not turned up. no, we were contacted. we actually wear - he had not turned up. no, we were contacted. we actually wear the i contacted. we actually wear the people that alerted the university that harrison had passed away. we contacted them the following day and they had absolutely no idea about harrison and did not know he had not turned up to his placement and i think if we had been able to be contacted by the university prior to that, that could have potentially help the situation, but i think it helps university students be more cared about. because otherwise i think they get lost in the system, and i think by students knowing there is that safety net in place, i think it definitely does help to know that they are cared about as well. ., , ,., know that they are cared about as well. ., , . , know that they are cared about as well. ., ,,., . , know that they are cared about as well. ., . , ., well. professor west, good morning to ou, well. professor west, good morning to you. president — well. professor west, good morning to you, president of— well. professor west, good morning to you, president of universities i to you, president of universities uk, so universities were being told to contact key family members if there were serious concerns, even without their permission. that, in a

way is the theory that is what you're saying, but in practice, how will that work?— will that work? first of all, i extend my _ will that work? first of all, i extend my condolences i will that work? first of all, i extend my condolences to i will that work? first of all, i i extend my condolences to isabel will that work? first of all, i - extend my condolences to isabel and the family _ extend my condolences to isabel and the family. the loss of a brother is really— the family. the loss of a brother is really tragic— the family. the loss of a brother is really tragic and what we are publishing today is to try to reduce, _ publishing today is to try to reduce, eliminate if we can, death by suicide — reduce, eliminate if we can, death by suicide of our students, so this is a really— by suicide of our students, so this is a really important topic. in effect, — is a really important topic. in effect, what we are trying to do is make _ effect, what we are trying to do is make sure — effect, what we are trying to do is make sure that the student, when they are _ make sure that the student, when they are well, is at the centre of ensuring — they are well, is at the centre of ensuring that we create that safety net, ensuring that we create that safety net. that _ ensuring that we create that safety net, that we create the environment within— net, that we create the environment within which they feel comfortable to come _ within which they feel comfortable to come forward. we have the open conversations about mental health and well—being, and we also work with them — and well—being, and we also work with them so they understand that in the event _ with them so they understand that in the event of us having serious concerns _ the event of us having serious concerns about their mental health and well—being, we want to work with them _ and well—being, we want to work with them and _ and well—being, we want to work with them and their trusted contact, and sometimes — them and their trusted contact, and sometimes that will be a parent, sometimes that will be a parent, sometimes that will be a parent, sometimes that might be a trusted

friend _ sometimes that might be a trusted friend. but that person would be engaged — friend. but that person would be engaged with and we would bring them in to help _ engaged with and we would bring them in to help support the student during — in to help support the student during that period of crisis, and that is— during that period of crisis, and that is really, really important. because — that is really, really important. because when students are in crisis, they may— because when students are in crisis, they may not be able to necessarily work with _ they may not be able to necessarily work with us and think with us about what is _ work with us and think with us about what is best— work with us and think with us about what is best to do, so we have the conversation before, we identify the trusted _ conversation before, we identify the trusted contact. sometimes parents, sometimes _ trusted contact. sometimes parents, sometimes friends, and then if we find that— sometimes friends, and then if we find that we have serious concerns, we will _ find that we have serious concerns, we will be — find that we have serious concerns, we will be proactive and intervene and engage with that person. professor, can i be clear about this? can i ask you, in relation to what you are saying, does that mean when a student starts at an institution that conversation takes place where it is literally a document where they say, this is the person to whom the university can speak in the event of someone being about my welfare? is that some kind

of agreement? is it documented? fries. of agreement? is it documented? yes, it would be and — of agreement? is it documented? yes, it would be and it _ of agreement? is it documented? yes, it would be and it is _ of agreement? is it documented? yes, it would be and it is in _ of agreement? is it documented? yes, it would be and it is in the power of the _ it would be and it is in the power of the students to change that as they travel through their university journey _ they travel through their university journey. it's important they feel comfortable that in the event of us needing _ comfortable that in the event of us needing to — comfortable that in the event of us needing to contact someone that they are comfortable with that person, and life _ are comfortable with that person, and life changes, we know that, over and life changes, we know that, over a period _ and life changes, we know that, over a period so — and life changes, we know that, over a period. so they have control of who the — a period. so they have control of who the person is but it's very explicit — who the person is but it's very explicit in _ who the person is but it's very explicit in terms of managing a situation — explicit in terms of managing a situation that is of serious concern to the _ situation that is of serious concern to the university.— to the university. professor steve west, to the university. professor steve west. good _ to the university. professor steve west, good morning _ to the university. professor steve west, good morning to _ to the university. professor steve west, good morning to you. i to the university. professor steve west, good morning to you. the. to the university. professor steve i west, good morning to you. the word proactive is something that applies here. on that point, would it be up to the student to change the trusted contact and update the university, or would that periodically be asked to be updated by the university? best practice would be for the university to nudge student community is at the beginning of each _ community is at the beginning of each enrolment year so it is a

reminder— each enrolment year so it is a reminder as each enrolment year so it is a reminderas part of each enrolment year so it is a reminder as part of their general joining— reminder as part of their general joining instructions and readmission to the _ joining instructions and readmission to the university at the end of each period _ to the university at the end of each period of— to the university at the end of each period of learning so we would be proactive — period of learning so we would be proactive in terms of needing to update — proactive in terms of needing to update your next of kin and emergency contacts and your number, but also _ emergency contacts and your number, but also your _ emergency contacts and your number, but also your details of where you are living — but also your details of where you are living. we know students will change _ are living. we know students will change addresses over the period of a three _ change addresses over the period of a three or— change addresses over the period of a three or four year degree programme, for example, or indeed when _ programme, for example, or indeed when they— programme, for example, or indeed when they are on placements. isabella, — when they are on placements. isabella, does this sound like a system that would have helped harrison? i system that would have helped harrison? ~ , harrison? i think it definitely would have _ harrison? i think it definitely would have helped _ harrison? i think it definitely would have helped harrisonl harrison? i think it definitely i would have helped harrison and it's a brilliant system because the fact that the student is able to control who they want it to be, whether that is a family member or friend, or whoever, somebody they trust, i think is fantastic. because i think with them giving consent at the beginning of the year, i completely agree with what has been said. in that, you can't see the wood for the

trees that when you are in that crisis point you can't think rationally and that is what the situation was with harrison and at least by asking them for these details when they are in a better place they probably think, that's not going to be needed at any point, but it is there and it is a safety net and i think it would have been really beneficial for harrison because i think the fact he was not engaging in counselling services with university, even though they initially signed up, those would have been red flags and definitely helped us to understand what was going on with harrison better. professor steve west, for somebody to be aware of someone else's mental health, they often need to be in close proximity, so would you trust a student when they are putting down somebody�*s trusted name for someone who is not back at home 100 miles away but it someone in the local community they will see regularly? isabella said something really important that, unfortunately, and

tragically, — important that, unfortunately, and tragically, often a young person that takes their life isn't known to any services within the university or the _ any services within the university or the nhs. and what we are looking for are _ or the nhs. and what we are looking for are very— or the nhs. and what we are looking for are very small clues if someone is identified — for are very small clues if someone is identified as at risk, so the starting — is identified as at risk, so the starting point is, it has to be somebody who knows and can spot and understand _ somebody who knows and can spot and understand. it has to be someone who is comfortable, and the student is comfortable in terms of being able to act— comfortable in terms of being able to act as _ comfortable in terms of being able to act as this contact person and trust _ to act as this contact person and trust is — to act as this contact person and trust is central. we know from many students _ trust is central. we know from many students that the whole mental health — students that the whole mental health agenda, the stigma for some of them, _ health agenda, the stigma for some of them, we have to wipe that away and ensure — of them, we have to wipe that away and ensure that students feel comfortable about taking control when _ comfortable about taking control when they are well and then working with us— when they are well and then working with us and — when they are well and then working with us and trusting us and their trusted — with us and trusting us and their trusted friends, or family members to help _ trusted friends, or family members to help them through that crisis. the tragedy is that all we are trying — the tragedy is that all we are trying to— the tragedy is that all we are trying to do is create a pause, a

moment— trying to do is create a pause, a moment which would stop a student from taking their life. and unfortunately, many times, it is a spare _ unfortunately, many times, it is a spare of— unfortunately, many times, it is a spare of the — unfortunately, many times, it is a spare of the moment decision and that is— spare of the moment decision and that is tragic. spare of the moment decision and that is tragic-— that is tragic. professor, thank ou. that is tragic. professor, thank you- isabella — that is tragic. professor, thank you. isabella cumming - that is tragic. professor, thank you. isabella cumming feels i that is tragic. professor, thank i you. isabella cumming feels only right, given the nature of the conversation to ask how you are doing. how are you? i’ve conversation to ask how you are doing. how are you?— conversation to ask how you are doing. how are you? i've had a busy week with the _ doing. how are you? i've had a busy week with the launch _ doing. how are you? i've had a busy week with the launch of— doing. how are you? i've had a busy week with the launch of a _ doing. how are you? i've had a busy week with the launch of a checklist i week with the launch of a checklist which is going to help with placements and making sure that universities are looking after their students. i miss my brother more than anything and each day is really, really challenging but doing all of this definitely does spur me on and also i have amazing family and friends and a fantastic boyfriend to keep me going as well, but thank you very much for asking. well, we appreciate you telling your story today. thank you both for your

time. and if you've been affected by the issues raised in this discussion you can find help. mike, what have you got? we are halfway through the group phase with celtic with work to do and manchester city can put their feet up, but chelsea are back. they were bottom of the group, but not any more. a brilliant night for them. what a night for chelsea, a big relief as they roared back into contention in their champions league group with a convincing win over ac milan and a first champions league victory for new coach graham potter. and it was the newcomers who set chelsea on their way. wesley fofana and then aubameyang with a smart finish and his signature celebration. they would have all felt like doing somersaults after the result. in the best goal of the game was reece james. chelsea are now a point behind salzburg and milan have dropped to third. tonight

was a aood milan have dropped to third. tonight was a good performance _ milan have dropped to third. tonight was a good performance on - milan have dropped to third. tonight was a good performance on the i was a good performance on the attitude — was a good performance on the attitude against a top opponent, we had to— attitude against a top opponent, we had to play well and act well and i thought— had to play well and act well and i thought we did. clean sheet, three goals _ thought we did. clean sheet, three goals we — thought we did. clean sheet, three goals. we had to suffer as well, which _ goals. we had to suffer as well, which is — goals. we had to suffer as well, which is good to do, because you have _ which is good to do, because you have to _ which is good to do, because you have to do — which is good to do, because you have to do that in a game at the top level. _ have to do that in a game at the top level. in— have to do that in a game at the top level. in any— have to do that in a game at the top level, in any game. so really pleased _ level, in any game. so really pleased for the players. they have worked _ pleased for the players. they have worked really hard this week and it's a _ worked really hard this week and it's a good — worked really hard this week and it's a good start for us. now it's confirmed, that the manchester city goal machine erling haaland is not human. well at least that's the view of the fc copenhagen goalkeeper who saw at first hand last night, and told city playerjack grealish, who agreed. after his hat—trick, in the manchester derby, it took haaland, just 7 minutes, to score again, in their champions league group match, and he had a second just after half an hour. he's now scored an incredible 19 goals in 12 games this season.

the only reason he didn't get the chance, of another hat trick, was that he was rested, after half time but it was still 5 he is an excellent player, a top class player and looking forward to playing him, and of course, you know, the dane will dash game will be tight and we continue to play, but after that it is better to rest and think of southampton. i but after that it is better to rest and think of southampton. i fear for southampton _ and think of southampton. i fear for southampton on _ and think of southampton. i fear for southampton on saturday, - and think of southampton. i fear for southampton on saturday, if- and think of southampton. i fear for southampton on saturday, if he i and think of southampton. i fear for southampton on saturday, if he is l southampton on saturday, if he is rested. celtic have it all to do in their group after a 3—1 defeat at rb liepzig meaning they are bottom. hopes had been raised whenjota did well to equalise to make it 1—1 after half—time but rb liepzig wrapped the game up with a brace from andrei silver. celtic can get revenge on a weak�*s time when the to play again in glasgow. saturday night's big boxing fight between conor benn and chris eubankjunior is in doubt because the british board of boxing control have refused

to sanction it saying it was not in the interest of the sport. it follows conor benn returning an adverse analytical finding for trace amounts of eight fertility drug but promoters say he has not been suspended and remains free to fight in london because his b sample is yet to be tested but without the blessing of the british boxing governing body the promoters will have to find another organisation to sanction it. however both fighters are hoping it can be sorted soon. i still want the fight to go ahead. i am still able, still want the fight to go ahead. i am stillable, i still want the fight to go ahead. i am still able, i am on weight, but this is for the promoters and the british boxing board of control to come to some type of agreement and get down to the bottom of things. i've done myjob. tetra get down to the bottom of things. i've done myjob— get down to the bottom of things. i've done my job. i've done my 'ob. two a day of anger and tears. i've done my job. two a day of anger and tears. worcester _ i've done my job. two a day of anger and tears. worcester warriors i i've done my job. two a day of anger and tears. worcester warriors was i and tears. worcester warriors was wound up in the high court. the captain tweeted it was unbelievably sad and told the governing body that something needs to change so it doesn't happen to other clubs. players and staff are looking for

new clubs with their contracts and to be terminated and it took less than a minute to wind up the part of the club that employs the players and staff. you can see the emotional scenes at the club while proceedings went on in the high court. worcester warriors have been suspended from all competitions since august for unpaid tax of about £6 million and it has left a bitter taste. i couldn't describe it as anything else but a shambles. the way they have treated players, staff as if they are pieces of meat. there is no recognition, on a human level, that these people have to look after their families. these people have to look after theirfamilies. and, you know, rely on these salaries to get them through life, so, yeah, it's been terribly run. terribly, terribly run. and i'm glad i don't have dc or speak to them or hear from ever again. and steve diamond, the director of

rugby said it was the darkest day and it ascended up like the titanic. the captains are nowhere to be seen, talking about those in charge. unbelievably sad for the players. some have gone on loan and have found other clubs and it's up to their angels —— agents now. and the staff as well. and the fans. imagine not having a club, whatever sport you love. hopefully something can come out of the ashes, may be some benefactor can sort something out, but at the moment it looked so problematic. but at the moment it looked so problematic-— but at the moment it looked so problematic._ caroll but at the moment it looked so | problematic._ carol is problematic. thank you. carol is takinr problematic. thank you. carol is takin: a problematic. thank you. carol is taking a look— problematic. thank you. carol is taking a look at _ problematic. thank you. carol is taking a look at the _ problematic. thank you. carol is taking a look at the weather. i problematic. thank you. carol is taking a look at the weather. do problematic. thank you. carol is i taking a look at the weather. do you enjoy the autumn? is it one of your favourite seasons?— favourite seasons? soma is my favourite- _ favourite seasons? soma is my favourite- l— favourite seasons? soma is my favourite. i love _ favourite seasons? soma is my favourite. i love the _ favourite seasons? soma is my favourite. i love the sun. i favourite seasons? soma is my favourite. i love the sun. but i favourite. i love the sun. but autumn — favourite. i love the sun. but autumn brings its own beauty. the lovely _ autumn brings its own beauty. the lovely leaves changing colour but it also brings variable temperatures and yesterday across england and wales _ and yesterday across england and wales we — and yesterday across england and wales we were looking widely at temperatures of around 16 or 17 for one or— temperatures of around 16 or 17 for one or two — temperatures of around 16 or 17 for one or two places, 18, but look at

the drop— one or two places, 18, but look at the drop in— one or two places, 18, but look at the drop in england and wales this morning _ the drop in england and wales this morning. eight to 11 or 12. we have showers _ morning. eight to 11 or 12. we have showers in — morning. eight to 11 or 12. we have showers in the forecast and you can see they— showers in the forecast and you can see they have already fallen across the north— see they have already fallen across the north and west of scotland, in through— the north and west of scotland, in through northern ireland, parts of northern— through northern ireland, parts of northern england and a few in wales on the _ northern england and a few in wales on the south—west but for many it is a dry— on the south—west but for many it is a dry start— on the south—west but for many it is a dry start and some of the showers will be _ a dry start and some of the showers will be heavy and thundery as we see currently, _ will be heavy and thundery as we see currently, and we also have the next system _ currently, and we also have the next system bringing rain and one look at the isobars— system bringing rain and one look at the isobars tells you that where ever _ the isobars tells you that where ever you — the isobars tells you that where ever you are it will be another windy— ever you are it will be another windy day _ ever you are it will be another windy day. some will start with sunshine — windy day. some will start with sunshine across central and eastern and southern england and the same in scotland _ and southern england and the same in scotland and the showers in the west and through the day we will see showery— and through the day we will see showery rain pushing across north wales— showery rain pushing across north wales into — showery rain pushing across north wales into northern england and at the same _ wales into northern england and at the same time a weather front comes in across— the same time a weather front comes in across the — the same time a weather front comes in across the north of northern ireland, — in across the north of northern ireland, bringing some rain and that will move _ ireland, bringing some rain and that will move into central scotland. these _ will move into central scotland. these white circles represent the average — these white circles represent the average wind speeds and the gusts will be _ average wind speeds and the gusts will be more and with exposure across — will be more and with exposure across north and west, we could have gusts _ across north and west, we could have gusts of— across north and west, we could have gusts of 50 _ across north and west, we could have gusts of 50 miles an hour. temperatures, we are looking at

maximums— temperatures, we are looking at maximums of 11 to 19 degrees. if we pick up _ maximums of 11 to 19 degrees. if we pick up the — maximums of 11 to 19 degrees. if we pick up the band of rain tonight, it starts _ pick up the band of rain tonight, it starts to— pick up the band of rain tonight, it starts to move north but then it merges — starts to move north but then it merges with one moving south on the whole _ merges with one moving south on the whole lot— merges with one moving south on the whole lot start to push south with sgually _ whole lot start to push south with squally winds around and if few showers — squally winds around and if few showers ahead of it and behind it you will— showers ahead of it and behind it you will notice that there will be some _ you will notice that there will be some showers but it is going to turn that bit— some showers but it is going to turn that bit cooler. tomorrow this squally— that bit cooler. tomorrow this squally band of rain continues to journey— squally band of rain continues to journey south, eradicating the bright — journey south, eradicating the bright start and there will be showers _ bright start and there will be showers developing ahead of it and on the _ showers developing ahead of it and on the other side of it we are back into a _ on the other side of it we are back into a mixture of bright spells, sunny— into a mixture of bright spells, sunny intervals and some showers, and some _ sunny intervals and some showers, and some of— sunny intervals and some showers, and some of the showers like today will be _ and some of the showers like today will be heavy and thundery and the wind will— will be heavy and thundery and the wind will be noticeable. temperatures between 11 and 19 degrees — temperatures between 11 and 19 degrees. as we head into friday night _ degrees. as we head into friday night and — degrees. as we head into friday night and saturday, this ridge of hi-h night and saturday, this ridge of high pressure starts to build across us and _ high pressure starts to build across us and we'll— high pressure starts to build across us and we'll be with us on saturday, moving _ us and we'll be with us on saturday, moving to _ us and we'll be with us on saturday, moving to the east on sunday, allowing — moving to the east on sunday, allowing this area of low pressure with the _ allowing this area of low pressure with the front to come in and again, look at _ with the front to come in and again, look at the — with the front to come in and again, look at the isobars. on saturday, we start with _ look at the isobars. on saturday, we start with patchy mist and fog that will clear—

start with patchy mist and fog that will clear readily and then there will clear readily and then there will be — will clear readily and then there will be a — will clear readily and then there will be a lot of dry weather and a fair bit _ will be a lot of dry weather and a fair bit of— will be a lot of dry weather and a fair bit of sunshine stop a quieter day weather wise on saturday but the cloud is _ day weather wise on saturday but the cloud is building on the west and it will be _ cloud is building on the west and it will be quick enough for the odd shower~ — will be quick enough for the odd shower. after such a windy week, things— shower. after such a windy week, things will— shower. after such a windy week, things will be lighter in terms of the wind — things will be lighter in terms of the wind with temperatures between 11 the wind with temperatures between it and _ the wind with temperatures between it and t7 _ the wind with temperatures between it and 17 so _ the wind with temperatures between 11 and 17 so they will also be cooler~ _ 11 and 17 so they will also be cooler~ as _ 11 and 17 so they will also be cooler. as we move into sunday, we have _ cooler. as we move into sunday, we have the _ cooler. as we move into sunday, we have the area — cooler. as we move into sunday, we have the area of low pressure coming in across _ have the area of low pressure coming in across the — have the area of low pressure coming in across the north—west which will introduce _ in across the north—west which will introduce strengthening wind and heavy _ introduce strengthening wind and heavy rain, pushing south to all but the far— heavy rain, pushing south to all but the far south east during the course of the _ the far south east during the course of the day— the far south east during the course of the day but monday brings something a little bit quieter. carol, thank you so much. while carol, thank you so much. while carol was _ carol, thank you so much. while carol was talking _ carol, thank you so much. while carol was talking about - carol, thank you so much. while carol was talking about the i carol, thank you so much. igg�*i is: carol was talking about the weather, we were talking aboutjigsaws. why was that, you are thinking. a good question. so ian rankin sits down on the sofa and we are arguing aboutjigsaws. i and we are arguing aboutjigsaws. i could start an argument in the empty room _ could start an argument in the empty room. �* could start an argument in the empty room. ~ , ., could start an argument in the empty

room. ~ ., ., , room. are you naturally argumentative? - room. are you naturally argumentative? we i room. are you naturally| argumentative? we just room. are you naturally i argumentative? we just found room. are you naturally _ argumentative? we just found out argumentative? we 'ust found out that ou argumentative? we 'ust found out that you dont _ argumentative? we 'ust found out that you don't like i argumentative? we just found out that you don't like jigsaws. - argumentative? we just found out| that you don't like jigsaws. there's that you don't like 'igsaws. there's somethina that you don't like 'igsaws. there's something about i that you don't like jigsaws. there's something about a _ that you don't like jigsaws. there's something about a jigsaw- that you don't like jigsaws. there's something about a jigsaw that i that you don't like jigsaws. there's i something about a jigsaw that drives me mad. i'm not good at them, but it just works for you. it absolutely works? , , . ., , just works for you. it absolutely works? ,, . . , ,, ., works? especially during lockdown we found it was a — works? especially during lockdown we found it was a way _ works? especially during lockdown we found it was a way of _ works? especially during lockdown we found it was a way of switching - works? especially during lockdown we found it was a way of switching off i found it was a way of switching off and not _ found it was a way of switching off and not thinking about coronavirus and not thinking about coronavirus and our— and not thinking about coronavirus and our son— and not thinking about coronavirus and our son would come round and he was part— and our son would come round and he was part of— and our son would come round and he was part of the bubble so the three of us _ was part of the bubble so the three of us could — was part of the bubble so the three of us could sit and do a jigsaw together— of us could sit and do a jigsaw together and it became a family thing _ together and it became a family thing and — together and it became a family thing and it was always improving because _ thing and it was always improving because they were art jigsaws or literary— because they were art jigsaws or literaryjigsaws. is it because they were art 'igsaws or literary jigsaws._ literaryjigsaws. is it because fundamentally _ literaryjigsaws. is it because fundamentally you _ literaryjigsaws. is it because fundamentally you are - literaryjigsaws. is it because fundamentally you are good l literaryjigsaws. is it because. fundamentally you are good at puzzles. is there anything there? that you can work things out and pl°p that you can work things out and plop things through? yes. that you can work things out and plop things through?— that you can work things out and plop things through? yes, i like the fact that at the — plop things through? yes, i like the fact that at the end, _ plop things through? yes, i like the fact that at the end, as _ plop things through? yes, i like the fact that at the end, as with - plop things through? yes, i like the fact that at the end, as with a - fact that at the end, as with a whodunnit, at the end you have something that makes sense and you started _ something that makes sense and you started with something that didn't make _ started with something that didn't make sense. why started with something that didn't make sense-— started with something that didn't make sense. ~ , . . ~ . make sense. why are we talking about this? why do — make sense. why are we talking about this? why do you _ make sense. why are we talking about this? why do you think _ make sense. why are we talking about this? why do you think the _ this? why do you think the conversation gets to jigsaws with sir ian rankin? because there is a rebus jigsaw, sir ian rankin? because there is a rebusjigsaw, and obviously. how many books now? 2&1.

rebusjigsaw, and obviously. how many books now?— rebusjigsaw, and obviously. how many books now? 24. the new one is 24. all many books now? 24. the new one is 24- all about — many books now? 24. the new one is 24. all about rebus _ many books now? 24. the new one is 24. all about rebus and _ many books now? 24. the new one is 24. all about rebus and his _ many books now? 24. the new one is 24. all about rebus and his battles i 24. all about rebus and his battles in the edinburgh _ 24. all about rebus and his battles in the edinburgh criminal— 24. all about rebus and his battles i in the edinburgh criminal underworld and millions of fans and the latest instalment comes out next week. this is your last one for a little while. my is your last one for a little while. my wife has said i'm taking next year— my wife has said i'm taking next year off— my wife has said i'm taking next year off on— my wife has said i'm taking next year off on pain of divorce because we were _ year off on pain of divorce because we were meant to take a year off and id we were meant to take a year off and go travelling and covid got in the way, _ go travelling and covid got in the way, so — go travelling and covid got in the way, so she said mixture, no writing, _ way, so she said mixture, no writing, tours or festivals and i'm looking _ writing, tours or festivals and i'm looking forward to that. she sounds like an awful _ looking forward to that. she sounds like an awful wife. _ looking forward to that. she sounds like an awful wife. so _ looking forward to that. she sounds like an awful wife. so she _ looking forward to that. she sounds like an awful wife. so she wants - looking forward to that. she sounds| like an awful wife. so she wants you to to on like an awful wife. so she wants you to go on holiday _ like an awful wife. so she wants you to go on holiday and _ like an awful wife. so she wants you to go on holiday and have _ like an awful wife. so she wants you to go on holiday and have a - like an awful wife. so she wants you to go on holiday and have a break. l to go on holiday and have a break. if i do— to go on holiday and have a break. if i do get— to go on holiday and have a break. if i do get an — to go on holiday and have a break. if i do get an idea and have a story, i— if i do get an idea and have a story, i will sit there pretending to he _ story, i will sit there pretending to be tweeting that i will be typing it into _ to be tweeting that i will be typing it into my— to be tweeting that i will be typing it into my phone. am to be tweeting that i will be typing it into my phone.— it into my phone. am i right in sa inc it into my phone. am i right in saying that — it into my phone. am i right in saying that part _ it into my phone. am i right in saying that part of— it into my phone. am i right in saying that part of the - it into my phone. am i right in saying that part of the new - it into my phone. am i right in i saying that part of the new rebus story came about when you were on holiday? in the caribbean? it story came about when you were on holiday? in the caribbean?- holiday? in the caribbean? it was janua holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this _ holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year _ holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year and _ holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year and i _ holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year and i was - holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year and i was in - holiday? in the caribbean? it was january this year and i was in the | january this year and i was in the carihhean— january this year and i was in the caribbean on holiday and i was panicking _ caribbean on holiday and i was panicking because i had a june deadline — panicking because i had a june deadline for a book and i haven't written _ deadline for a book and i haven't written anything and on holiday it

started _ written anything and on holiday it started to — written anything and on holiday it started to come to me and make sense and i would _ started to come to me and make sense and i would sit on the beach and tap it in my— and i would sit on the beach and tap it in my phone, these little notes to myself— it in my phone, these little notes to myself so when i got back to edinburgh i could start writing. my top tip _ edinburgh i could start writing. my top tip for any writers out there is top tip for any writers out there is to take _ top tip for any writers out there is to take a — top tip for any writers out there is to take a caribbean holiday. well, it obviously _ to take a caribbean holiday. well, it obviously does _ to take a caribbean holiday. well, it obviously does not _ to take a caribbean holiday. well, it obviously does not work. - to take a caribbean holiday. well, it obviously does not work. so, i to take a caribbean holiday. -ll it obviously does not work. so, sir ian rankin. it obviously does not work. so, sir ian rankin-— ian rankin. you keep saying that. does it sound _ ian rankin. you keep saying that. does it sound good? _ ian rankin. you keep saying that. does it sound good? i _ ian rankin. you keep saying that. does it sound good? i don't - ian rankin. you keep saying that. does it sound good? i don't think| ian rankin. you keep saying that. l does it sound good? i don't think i will get used to it. me does it sound good? i don't think i will get used to it.— will get used to it. i've not had the sword _ will get used to it. i've not had the sword on _ will get used to it. i've not had the sword on my _ will get used to it. i've not had the sword on my shoulder- will get used to it. i've not had the sword on my shoulder yet. j will get used to it. i've not had l the sword on my shoulder yet. i remember— the sword on my shoulder yet. i remember phoning my sister and sadly my parents— remember phoning my sister and sadly my parents are no longer with me sadly. _ my parents are no longer with me sadly. but— my parents are no longer with me sadly. but i— my parents are no longer with me sadly, but i phoned my sister to tell her— sadly, but i phoned my sister to tell her the good news, she said, yes, _ tell her the good news, she said, yes, but— tell her the good news, she said, yes, but i'm _ tell her the good news, she said, yes, but i'm still your big sister. it keeps — yes, but i'm still your big sister. it keeps you grounded. tell yes, but i'm still your big sister. it keeps you grounded.- yes, but i'm still your big sister. it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writin: it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writing thing. _ it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writing thing. as _ it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writing thing. as you _ it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writing thing. as you get - it keeps you grounded. tell us about the writing thing. as you get more . the writing thing. as you get more well known, as authors go, i think you are quite recognisable and part of the joy of being an author is that you sit back in a cafe and bar and listen and start picking things up. does that get harder? do you get recognised more often and are less

able to earwig on life? you recognised more often and are less able to earwig on life?— recognised more often and are less able to earwig on life? you say that writers aet able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous _ able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous but _ able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous but i _ able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous but i could - able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous but i could be i able to earwig on life? you say that writers get famous but i could be in a bar— writers get famous but i could be in a bar or— writers get famous but i could be in a bar or with— writers get famous but i could be in a bar or withjohn grissom and i could _ a bar or withjohn grissom and i could have _ a bar or withjohn grissom and i could have no idea, or somebody else, _ could have no idea, or somebody else, some — could have no idea, or somebody else, some famous writer because famous _ else, some famous writer because famous writers, the name is famous but we _ famous writers, the name is famous but we don't — famous writers, the name is famous but we don't know what they look like. in _ but we don't know what they look like. , , ., ., , like. in edinburgh you are very famous. but _ like. in edinburgh you are very famous. but in _ like. in edinburgh you are very famous. but in edinburgh - like. in edinburgh you are very i famous. but in edinburgh people like. in edinburgh you are very - famous. but in edinburgh people go about their business. _ famous. but in edinburgh people go about their business. i _ famous. but in edinburgh people go about their business. i remember. about their business. i remember once _ about their business. i remember once walking past a queue of people and once walking pasta queue of people and sean— once walking past a queue of people and sean connery was halfway back in the queue, _ and sean connery was halfway back in the queue, and nobody was talking to him, the queue, and nobody was talking to him. he _ the queue, and nobody was talking to him. he was — the queue, and nobody was talking to him, he wasjust a punter and that's the thing _ him, he wasjust a punter and that's the thing about edinburgh. you are the thing about edinburgh. you are the same _ the thing about edinburgh. you are the same as everybody else. but i walk into — the same as everybody else. but i walk into bars and sometimes people say, i've _ walk into bars and sometimes people say, i've got— walk into bars and sometimes people say, i've got a story for you, which is quite _ say, i've got a story for you, which is quite nice. — say, i've got a story for you, which is quite nice, even if 99 times out of a hundred _ is quite nice, even if 99 times out of a hundred it's going to be unusable _ of a hundred it's going to be unusable for whatever reason. i was going _ unusable for whatever reason. i was going to _ unusable for whatever reason. i was going to say, in your head, does your— going to say, in your head, does your heart— going to say, in your head, does your heart slightly sink? but you never know- _ your heart slightly sink? but you never know. it _ your heart slightly sink? but you never know. it could _ your heart slightly sink? but you never know. it could be - your heart slightly sink? but you never know. it could be a - your heart slightly sink? but you never know. it could be a gem. l your heart slightly sink? but you - never know. it could be a gem. with this new book— never know. it could be a gem. with this new book i _ never know. it could be a gem. with this new book i walked into a bar after— this new book i walked into a bar

after lockdown eased and saw a guy i vaguely— after lockdown eased and saw a guy i vaguely knew and he had a lan yard and i said. _ vaguely knew and he had a lan yard and i said, what is that? he said, i've got— and i said, what is that? he said, i've got copd and it tells people i'm exempt from wearing a mask indoors, — i'm exempt from wearing a mask indoors, and rebus has copd. it�*s a indoors, and rebus has copd. it's a chest condition. _ indoors, and rebus has copd. it's a chest condition. it's _ indoors, and rebus has copd. it's a chest condition. it's a _ indoors, and rebus has copd. it's a chest condition. it's a pulmonary . chest condition. it's a pulmonary disorder. chest condition. it's a pulmonary disorder- so _ chest condition. it's a pulmonary disorder. so rebus _ chest condition. it's a pulmonary disorder. so rebus wears - chest condition. it's a pulmonary disorder. so rebus wears his - chest condition. it's a pulmonary i disorder. so rebus wears his little card and _ disorder. so rebus wears his little card and tries to get through police cordons, _ card and tries to get through police cordons, so— card and tries to get through police cordons, so he is no longer a cop and he _ cordons, so he is no longer a cop and he thinks he can put this on an breeze _ and he thinks he can put this on an breeze through into the crime scene which _ breeze through into the crime scene which never— breeze through into the crime scene which never quite works. we breeze through into the crime scene which never quite works.— breeze through into the crime scene which never quite works. we have met once or twice — which never quite works. we have met once or twice before _ which never quite works. we have met once or twice before and _ which never quite works. we have met once or twice before and i'm _ which never quite works. we have met once or twice before and i'm not - once or twice before and i'm not sure if you have gone through this with me before, but when you wrote rebus first, did you in your own head have a clear picture of what he looked like, and i assume you did, and was that at odds with what later appeared in how he is depicted? coming back to the jigsaw, the one thing _ coming back to the jigsaw, the one thing i_ coming back to the jigsaw, the one thing i said — coming back to the jigsaw, the one thing i said i could not do in a jigsaw— thing i said i could not do in a jigsaw was— thing i said i could not do in a jigsaw was represent rebus. all you .et jigsaw was represent rebus. all you get is _ jigsaw was represent rebus. all you get is an— jigsaw was represent rebus. all you get is an outline of his head, not a visual— get is an outline of his head, not a visual representation because i don't _ visual representation because i don't really know what he looks

like _ don't really know what he looks like i_ don't really know what he looks like i am — don't really know what he looks like. i am looking out through his eyes _ like. i am looking out through his eyes he — like. i am looking out through his eyes. he was meant to be around for one book. _ eyes. he was meant to be around for one book. he — eyes. he was meant to be around for one book, he was 40 years old, man show, _ one book, he was 40 years old, man show, vigorous, didn't mind getting in a fight _ show, vigorous, didn't mind getting in a fight and having lived with him for almost — in a fight and having lived with him for almost 30 years now, he has changed — for almost 30 years now, he has changed -- _ for almost 30 years now, he has changed —— he was man show. he has become _ changed —— he was man show. he has become more — changed —— he was man show. he has become more thoughtful. jobs he has done in _ become more thoughtful. jobs he has done in the _ become more thoughtful. jobs he has done in the past has changed him and he has _ done in the past has changed him and he has health issue and he's moved from _ he has health issue and he's moved from an— he has health issue and he's moved from an upstairs apartment to the ground _ from an upstairs apartment to the ground floor because he can't manage the stairs— ground floor because he can't manage the stairs because of his health condition _ the stairs because of his health condition. he is one step ahead of me in— condition. he is one step ahead of me in the — condition. he is one step ahead of me in the ageing game and he is helping — me in the ageing game and he is helping me to deal with the ageing process _ helping me to deal with the ageing process. like leonard cohen once said, _ process. like leonard cohen once said. i_ process. like leonard cohen once said. i ache — process. like leonard cohen once said, iache in process. like leonard cohen once said, i ache in the process. like leonard cohen once said, iache in the places process. like leonard cohen once said, i ache in the places where process. like leonard cohen once said, iache in the places where i used _ said, iache in the places where i used to— said, iache in the places where i used to play, and that is rebus. that— used to play, and that is rebus. that is a — used to play, and that is rebus. that is a great line.— that is a great line. there is nothina that is a great line. there is nothing sweeter _ that is a great line. there is nothing sweeter than - that is a great line. there isj nothing sweeter than having that is a great line. there is - nothing sweeter than having dreams come true in some ways, and the things you have imagined, and it happened for you with brian cox playing rebus and we will play some of it is marvellous. l playing rebus and we will play some of it is marvellous.— of it is marvellous. i miss the pub.

pub is all pubs. _ of it is marvellous. i miss the pub. pub is all pubs. pubs _ of it is marvellous. i miss the pub. pub is all pubs. pubs many - of it is marvellous. i miss the pub. pub is all pubs. pubs many and - pub is all pubs. pubs many and various. i even go to ts —— miss the ones i wouldn't normally visit. as an ex cop, there are places you know to avoid, people with long memories. and yourface mightjust be the one that will set them off. but i would risk it. do be the one that will set them off. but i would risk it.— but i would risk it. do you know, when he did _ but i would risk it. do you know, when he did that, _ but i would risk it. do you know, when he did that, the _ but i would risk it. do you know, i when he did that, the commitment with the map of edinburgh behind him and everything, that is a really respectful touch. ll and everything, that is a really respectful touch.— and everything, that is a really respectful touch. if people don't know, respectful touch. if people don't know. brian _ respectful touch. if people don't know, brian cox _ respectful touch. if people don't know, brian cox was _ respectful touch. if people don't know, brian cox was in - respectful touch. if people don't| know, brian cox was in lockdown respectful touch. if people don't i know, brian cox was in lockdown in upstate _ know, brian cox was in lockdown in upstate new york waiting to make the next series _ upstate new york waiting to make the next series of succession and he had dressed _ next series of succession and he had dressed his— next series of succession and he had dressed his cabin as if it were an edinburgh — dressed his cabin as if it were an edinburgh tenement, so he's got a map of— edinburgh tenement, so he's got a map of edinburgh, a bottle of whiskey. _ map of edinburgh, a bottle of whiskey, and he has dog food, because — whiskey, and he has dog food, because rebus has a dog, not brian cox. because rebus has a dog, not brian cox and _ because rebus has a dog, not brian cox. and when the first book came

out, cox. and when the first book came out. brian— cox. and when the first book came out, brian cox was my choice for playing _ out, brian cox was my choice for playing him _ out, brian cox was my choice for playing him on screen. but he was busy— playing him on screen. but he was busy in _ playing him on screen. but he was busy in hollywood, so it never came to pass _ busy in hollywood, so it never came to pass so — busy in hollywood, so it never came to pass. so finally, all of these years— to pass. so finally, all of these years later we got him to play rebus. — years later we got him to play rebus, and age appropriate as well, so that— rebus, and age appropriate as well, so that was— rebus, and age appropriate as well, so that was lovely.— rebus, and age appropriate as well, so that was lovely. what about rebus lookin: so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? _ so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? if _ so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? if i _ so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? if i can _ so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? if i can get - so that was lovely. what about rebus looking forward? if i can get past - looking forward? if i can get past this ear looking forward? if i can get past this year off _ looking forward? if i can get past this year off hopefully _ looking forward? if i can get past this year off hopefully there - looking forward? if i can get past this year off hopefully there is i looking forward? if i can get past. this year off hopefully there is one more _ this year off hopefully there is one more book— this year off hopefully there is one more book and when people read the new book— more book and when people read the new book it— more book and when people read the new book it does end on a cliffhanger, so we need to know what happens _ cliffhanger, so we need to know what happens i_ cliffhanger, so we need to know what happens. i need to know what happens next. happens. i need to know what happens next the _ happens. i need to know what happens next. the only way to find out what happens _ next. the only way to find out what happens next is to write another book _ happens next is to write another book. �* . , �* happens next is to write another book. �* , , �* ., happens next is to write another book. 3 , �* . ,, book. it's funny, i've heard you talkin: book. it's funny, i've heard you talking about _ book. it's funny, i've heard you talking about your _ book. it's funny, i've heard you talking about your writing - book. it's funny, i've heard you talking about your writing and i book. it's funny, i've heard you| talking about your writing and it book. it's funny, i've heard you i talking about your writing and it is like it happens to you. you start writing and then the story happens to you. writing and then the story happens to ou. . writing and then the story happens to ou. , , ., ., to you. yes, when i start a book, even this — to you. yes, when i start a book, even this one _ to you. yes, when i start a book, even this one which _ to you. yes, when i start a book, even this one which i _ to you. yes, when i start a book, even this one which i typed - to you. yes, when i start a book, even this one which i typed into i to you. yes, when i start a book, i even this one which i typed into my phone _ even this one which i typed into my phone on— even this one which i typed into my phone on holiday, i did not know the ending _ phone on holiday, i did not know the ending i_ phone on holiday, i did not know the ending. i had a vague idea of the theme _ ending. i had a vague idea of the theme i— ending. i had a vague idea of the theme i wanted to explore, which was bent coppers and i went from there. i found _ bent coppers and i went from there. i found a _ bent coppers and i went from there. i found a plot that allowed me to explore — i found a plot that allowed me to explore the theme and i started writing — explore the theme and i started

writing the book as though i were a detective. — writing the book as though i were a detective, knowing as little as a detective — detective, knowing as little as a detective knows, and as they are finding _ detective knows, and as they are finding stuff out, i am finding stuff — finding stuff out, i am finding stuff out _ finding stuff out, i am finding stuff out and then you hope and hope that towards the end of the first draft _ that towards the end of the first draft you — that towards the end of the first draft you will work out what the heck _ draft you will work out what the heck is — draft you will work out what the heck is going on. and the book always— heck is going on. and the book always tells me. it says, this is who— always tells me. it says, this is who did — always tells me. it says, this is who did it. _ always tells me. it says, this is who did it, this is what happened, this is— who did it, this is what happened, this is why— who did it, this is what happened, this is why they did it. if who did it, this is what happened, this is why they did it.— this is why they did it. if you want to hanu this is why they did it. if you want to hang around, _ this is why they did it. if you want to hang around, i _ this is why they did it. if you want to hang around, i have _ this is why they did it. if you want to hang around, i have a - this is why they did it. if you want to hang around, i have a great - this is why they did it. if you want i to hang around, i have a great idea for a story. to hang around, i have a great idea for a story-— for a story. does it involve jigsaws? _ for a story. does it involve jigsaws? l've _ for a story. does it involve jigsaws? i've got - for a story. does it involve jigsaws? i've got a - for a story. does it involve jigsaws? i've got a great i for a story. does it involve - jigsaws? i've got a great idea. get charlie a jigsaw. _ jigsaws? i've got a great idea. get charlie a jigsaw. you _ jigsaws? i've got a great idea. get charlie a jigsaw. you will- jigsaws? i've got a great idea. get charlie a jigsaw. you will love - jigsaws? i've got a great idea. get charlie a jigsaw. you will love it. i charlie a jigsaw. you will love it. sir ian rankin, thank you for joining us. the latest rebus book — "a heart full of headstones" — is out a week today. stay with us, headlines coming up.

good morning.

welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... the royal college of nursing ballots its members across the uk for strike action over pay — the first vote of its kind in its 106—year history. a public inquiry will hear from parents whose children died after being infected with hiv from contaminated blood products in the 19805. even in the hospital, the woman had me on one side and said, "you know michael's going to die." i said, "no, he's not," you know. sorry. celebrity chef tom kerridge tells breakfast why he's campaigning for children, in all households claiming universal credit, to be given free school meals. will there be blackouts this winter? the uk's electricity operator is due to reveal later how it plans to keep the lights on. man or machine. the manchester city striker that can't stop scoring. and erling haaland was at it again in their first half demolition job

of fc copenhagen in the champions league, with their keeper concluding he's not human. good morning. a cooler start to the day across — good morning. a cooler start to the day across england and wales. we are in for— day across england and wales. we are in for a _ day across england and wales. we are in for a day— day across england and wales. we are in for a day of sunshine and showers. _ in for a day of sunshine and showers, some heavy and thundery. rain coming — showers, some heavy and thundery. rain coming into the north later. all the details throughout this morning's programme. it's thursday, the 6th of october. our main story. hundreds of thousands of nurses across the uk are being asked if they're willing to walk out over pay. the royal college of nursing is balloting its members for strike action for the first time in the union's 106—year history. the rcn wants a payrise of 5% above inflation, but no uk nation has offered close to that. our correspondent, caroline davies, has more. through the darkest days of the pandemic, the uk's nurses were some of the nation's heroes. now, they're being balloted to strike over pay. my love for it was to make

a difference in people's lives. and that's why i am here. but then, sometimes when i look at it, it's like, is it really worth it? victoria is a mental health nurse in an nhs trust. after she came back from maternity leave, she went part time and receives universal credit because she says her pay wouldn't cover the cost of childcare if she worked full time. even now, she struggles. sometimes you end up having not enough money to feed yourself, or even feed your children. if i'm going to work, and i'm... i'm making a difference in people's lives, ifeel like i should be able to be compensated and have enough pay for myself to sustain myself and even look after my children. the rcn is asking for a pay rise of 5% on top of inflation, something no uk nation has offered. the ballot will open today until the 2nd of november. nurses in northern ireland have

been on strike before but, if this vote goes through, it will be the first time in the rcn's 106—year history that there's been a nationwide strike. not all nurses would walk out. some, whose work is considered to be life—preserving, or if it wasn't administered would lead to permanent disability, will continue to work, too. but this strike is intended to disrupt, and it's likely to come at a time when winter pressures are starting to build. the rcn say they have no other choice. nurses want something very simple, to come and shift every day, not with the feeling of dread they will not be able to provide safe care for patients. they want to be able to fill hundreds of thousands of vacant posts. that is not much to ask. the department — posts. that is not much to ask. the department of _ posts. that is not much to ask. the department of health and social care says... scotland's health secretary

suggested yesterday he would be making an improved offer other unions are also planning will have started balloting their workers. there may be anger over paper any form of strike will affect patient care. a public inquiry will hear evidence today from families who lost children in what's been called the worst treatment disaster in nhs history. documents seen by the bbc show 175 children were infected with hiv in the 19805 — after being given contaminated blood during treatment for haemophilia. one of the parents giving evidence this morning has been speaking to our health correspondent, jim reed. he's always been well—behaved. full of life, as usual, like little boys are, you know. linda's son, michael, was just a toddler when she was told he had haemophilia — a genetic disorder, which stopped his blood clotting properly. he was always on the go. he always wanted to keep busy. the haemophilia would stop him sometimes, but...

..he just learned to cope with it. in 1982, here at birmingham children's hospital, michael was switched to a brand—new treatment, imported from the united states. but factor viii was made from blood donated by prisoners and other at—risk groups. whole batches were contaminated with hepatitis, and later hiv. the doctor, of course, he said, michael, is hiv positive. and he just came out with it as though he was talking about the weather outside. you know, what i mean? on the way home, i had to tell my husband when we got in the car. and it was silent all the way home. we never spoke. it was such a shock, you know. how did michael react to being told that himself? did he speak to you about it? well, he went very quiet. he went very quiet. and he said he didn't want any family to know. he never told his friends or anything. hejust wanted to be normal, see.

there is now a danger that has become a threat to us all. michael was diagnosed with hiv, aged 16, in 1986, just as this hard—hitting tv campaign was launched. if you ignore aids, it could be the death of you. was he angry about what happened? yes. oh, yes, he was. i mean, i tried to be so positive for him — to think that he wasn't going to pass away. and even in the hospital, the woman had me on one side and she said, "you know, michael's going to die." and i said, "no, he's not," you know. sorry. it just seems like yesterday still. michael died a week before his 26th birthday. he was one of 175 children infected with hiv after being given

the same contaminated treatment. just couldn't believe what was happening, you know. today, linda will give evidence to the public inquiry into the disaster. i felt as though i needed to do it to help get to the bottom of it, because i think we all want to know why it was allowed to happen. that long—running public inquiry is nowjust months away from concluding. many families will finally be hoping for some answers decades after their loved ones were infected. jim reed, bbc news. ukraine has accused russia of targeting civilian homes after residential buildings in the southern city of zaporizhzhia were apparently hit by multiple rockets this morning. a rescue operation is underway. the city is not within the area which was recently annexed by moscow following so—called referenda. our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams, sent this report from the city.

it has been a couple of hours since we heard explosions, several explosions right here in the centre of zaporizhzhia, an hour or an arrow and a half before dawn. rescue workers had been here on this main avenue ever since then. you can tell by looking round you what a huge explosion this was. not only has that apartment building being completely demolished but shops and buildings on the other side and had windows blown in, there is a lot of damage. if you look at the in railing down the middle of the avenue, it has been blown out by the force of the blast. explosions are not unusual here in zaporizhzhia. we are not far from not unusual here in zaporizhzhia. we are not farfrom russian —controlled territory and people are used to hearing explosions by night and day. full something like this to happen,

right in the heart of the city an entire apartment building demolished, that is unusual and pretty shocking. that report was from our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams. at least 16 people have died after two boats carrying migrants sank in the aegean sea. a rescue operation for survivors was underway in the early hours of this morning. it came after a dinghy believed to be carrying around 40 people got into difficulty near the greek island of lesbos — which lies close to turkey — and a second boat hit rocks off the island of kythira. is britain going to keep the lights on this winter? that is a serious question given all the problems. irate question given all the problems. we are question given all the problems. - are not really used to power cuts and blackouts. we have already had a warning from ofgem saying there is a

significant risk that the uk could end his will —— could enter a gas supply emergency. ofgem said it could lead to supplies being cut to power stations, some of which use gas to generate around 40% to 60% of the uk's electricity. what is not clear is the impact it might have on businesses and all of us at home. the prime minister has previously ruled out the possibility of energy rationing. how likely is it there will be blackouts this winter? as a country we no longer rely on russia directly for gash. in 2021 we supported just 4%. —— directly for gas. there is growing pressure on the whole international market which could have a knock—on effect here. there has been told about new

contracts — there has been told about new contracts with people to supply us with gas— contracts with people to supply us with gas like the qataris, the us, norwegians, etc. those contracts will not _ norwegians, etc. those contracts will not guarantee their gas at any price _ will not guarantee their gas at any price. they— will not guarantee their gas at any price. they may guarantee some gas but we _ price. they may guarantee some gas but we will— price. they may guarantee some gas but we will still have to pay whatever the global gas price is or whatever— whatever the global gas price is or whatever our gas price is in the uk at that— whatever our gas price is in the uk at that time. this is a very serious problem. — at that time. this is a very serious problem. i— at that time. this is a very serious problem, i think, at that time. this is a very serious problem, ithink, we at that time. this is a very serious problem, i think, we are facing this winter~ _ problem, i think, we are facing this winter~ a _ problem, i think, we are facing this winter~ a lot — problem, i think, we are facing this winter. a lot of people in the energy— winter. a lot of people in the energy industry are realising we may face shortages on top of everything else. _ face shortages on top of everything else, which, if it needs to blackouts, it means your central heating — blackouts, it means your central heating pump does not work, your boiler— heating pump does not work, your boiler does — heating pump does not work, your boiler does not work. even if you have _ boiler does not work. even if you have got — boiler does not work. even if you have got gas in the home, you cannot actually— have got gas in the home, you cannot actually use _ have got gas in the home, you cannot actually use it. to heating because your central heating will not work. later _ your central heating will not work. later today— your central heating will not work. later today the national grid esa will publish its forecast for our energy supply over the winter. it

has already extended the life of some coal—fired power stations as a back—up and will be looking at whether it can meet demand. the government is confident and is working to ensure household and business energy needs are met this winter. we know some preparations are already being made but we will see whether it is going to be enough when people really start to use more energy this winter.— energy this winter. discussions continue. thank _ energy this winter. discussions continue. thank you _ energy this winter. discussions continue. thank you very - energy this winter. discussions| continue. thank you very much. now for a look at the weather now. where are you with jigsaws? are you on board? do you like a jigsaw? i like a puzzle, jigsaws particularly. are yours weather related? ihlat are yours weather related? not usuall . are yours weather related? not usually- more _ are yours weather related? lint usually. more intricate usually, towns, cities and shops with things like that. . , . , , .,

like that. that picture behind you, can ou like that. that picture behind you, can you imagine — like that. that picture behind you, can you imagine that _ like that. that picture behind you, can you imagine that as _ like that. that picture behind you, can you imagine that as a - like that. that picture behind you, can you imagine that as a jigsaw? | can you imagine that as a jigsaw? that would be so hard, wouldn't it? this morning this picture tells a story. we have heavy showers around and they had been thundery already across parts of north—eastern scotland. we have showers but there will be sunshine today. it will be windy again. later on we have rain coming our way. lots of dry weather and sunshine in central, southern and sunshine in central, southern and eastern parts of england. showers predominantly in the far north and west. through the day showery rain moving across north wales and into northern england. also another weather front bringing rain into the north of northern ireland and central scotland. these white circles represent sustained wind speed. their gas will be more. in the north and west it could gas to 50 miles an hour. this band of

rain will move north overnight. when the one coming south moves into it, they merge. mostly dry and behind it cooler with more showers. tomorrow we pick up this band of squally rain pushing steadily southwards, eradicating the bright star in the south—east. there will be one or two showers. then we are back into sunny intervals with bright spells and again potentially and we showers. a windy day with highs of 11 to 19. i got distracted. take a little luck! that is allowed, isn't it? by luck! that is allowed, isn't it? gorgeous dog. luck! that is allowed, isn't it? a gorgeous dog. this _ luck! that is allowed, isn't it? a gorgeous dog. this is _ luck! that is allowed, isn't it? a gorgeous dog. this is hugo. - luck! that is allowed, isn't it? a - gorgeous dog. this is hugo. yvonne is here as well. _ gorgeous dog. this is hugo. yvonne is here as well. we _ gorgeous dog. this is hugo. yvonne is here as well. we are _ gorgeous dog. this is hugo. yvonne is here as well. we are all _ gorgeous dog. this is hugo. yvonne is here as well. we are all talking i is here as well. we are all talking about the dog. we will explain why you are both here. such an important

story. you are preparing heeded to be a dog for the blind. we will explain fully. if you were watching breakfast last week, you might have seen an interview with our bbc colleague sean dilley, who was discussing the retirement of his beloved guide dog, sammy. sean also told us how — because of delays caused by covid — the wait for a replacement guide dog is much longer than usual. let's just remind ourselves of what he had to say. i mean it is important i say i am not speaking for guide dogs. i say that because i volunteer as a fundraiser for them. yeah. i think the biggest thing speaking to them about it is, they've lost a third of the volunteer puppy raisers. those numbers are stark. what do you have to do is a puppy raiser? just explain. absolutely. you have to have a dog from 8 to 12 weeks old, roughly, i believe, all the way through to 14 months. these people are heroes. they have the dogs when they are chewing things, they are making maybe puddles in supermarkets and they have to say, "i'm really sorry about the dog." what they do is they have them during the hardest time. i think at the moment the idea of anybody who is willing

to come forward and say, "hey, listen, we are going to come forward and do that," potentially, it changes my life and i have to say, if you've done that past or present, thank you. well, the response to sean dilly�*s story has been absolutely incredible. since friday of last week, 110 people have contacted the charity guide dogs uk, offerng to train the next generation of puppies. that's around five times more than they'd normally expect. seanjoins us now from stevenage. morning to you. the trains are on strike so you _ morning to you. the trains are on strike so you are _ morning to you. the trains are on strike so you are in _ morning to you. the trains are on strike so you are in my _ morning to you. the trains are on strike so you are in my living - morning to you. the trains are on i strike so you are in my living room. welcome. fits strike so you are in my living room. welcome. �* . strike so you are in my living room. welcome. . , ., ., ., ., welcome. as he saw a moment ago, huuo is welcome. as he saw a moment ago, hugo is here. _ welcome. as he saw a moment ago, hugo is here. a _ welcome. as he saw a moment ago, hugo is here, a guide _ welcome. as he saw a moment ago, hugo is here, a guide dog _ welcome. as he saw a moment ago, hugo is here, a guide dog in - hugo is here, a guide dog in waiting. where are you in the training process? irate waiting. where are you in the training process?— waiting. where are you in the training process? we have had him since he is — training process? we have had him since he is eight _ training process? we have had him since he is eight weeks _ training process? we have had him since he is eight weeks old. - training process? we have had him since he is eight weeks old. he - training process? we have had him since he is eight weeks old. he is i

since he is eight weeks old. he is eight months —— 11 months old on saturday — eight months —— 11 months old on saturday. he will go to big school when _ saturday. he will go to big school when he — saturday. he will go to big school when he is — saturday. he will go to big school when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old. when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old lt— when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old. . when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old. , .., , when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old. , , ., when he is about 14, maybe 15 months old-_ definitely i old. it is coming up now. definitely cominu u- old. it is coming up now. definitely coming pp fast- — old. it is coming up now. definitely coming up fast. if _ old. it is coming up now. definitely coming up fast. if your— old. it is coming up now. definitely coming up fast. if your first - old. it is coming up now. definitely coming up fast. if your first one? i coming up fast. if your first one? yes. coming up fast. if your first one? yes- this — coming up fast. if your first one? yes- this is _ coming up fast. if your first one? yes. this is brilliant. _ coming up fast. if your first one? yes. this is brilliant. how- coming up fast. if your first one? yes. this is brilliant. how are - coming up fast. if your first one? | yes. this is brilliant. how are you re arina yes. this is brilliant. how are you preparing for _ yes. this is brilliant. how are you preparing for when _ yes. this is brilliant. how are you preparing for when he _ yes. this is brilliant. how are you preparing for when he goes - yes. this is brilliant. how are you preparing for when he goes to - yes. this is brilliant. how are youj preparing for when he goes to big school and leaves you? i preparing for when he goes to big school and leaves you?— school and leaves you? i keep tellinu school and leaves you? i keep telling myself _ school and leaves you? i keep telling myself he _ school and leaves you? i keep telling myself he is _ school and leaves you? i keep telling myself he is going - school and leaves you? i keep telling myself he is going on i school and leaves you? i keep | telling myself he is going on to change — telling myself he is going on to change somebody's life for the better~ — change somebody's life for the better. that is his destiny and he needs— better. that is his destiny and he needs to — better. that is his destiny and he needs to fulfil it. i keep telling myself— needs to fulfil it. i keep telling myself that. it will be hard. we had to get— myself that. it will be hard. we had to get a _ myself that. it will be hard. we had to get a bond with them for them to follow— to get a bond with them for them to follow the _ to get a bond with them for them to follow the queues and training we .ive follow the queues and training we give them. you love and nurture them but we _ give them. you love and nurture them but we need _ give them. you love and nurture them but we need him to go on and do what he was _ but we need him to go on and do what he was trained to do and what he was bred to _ he was trained to do and what he was bred to do _ he was trained to do and what he was bred to do. he

he was trained to do and what he was bred to do. . he was trained to do and what he was bred to do. , ., ., bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a — bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a wild _ bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a wild dog. _ bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a wild dog. come - bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a wild dog. come on. - bred to do. he needs to calm down. he is like a wild dog. come on. he i he is like a wild dog. come on. he is the ultimate _ he is like a wild dog. come on. he is the ultimate shell, _ he is like a wild dog. come on. he is the ultimate shell, isn't - he is like a wild dog. come on. he is the ultimate shell, isn't he? - is the ultimate shell, isn't he? here's — is the ultimate shell, isn't he? here's lounging very comfortably. —— the ultimate shell. it here's lounging very comfortably. -- the ultimate shell.— the ultimate shell. it was a very emotional— the ultimate shell. it was a very emotional talk. _ the ultimate shell. it was a very emotional talk. anything - the ultimate shell. it was a very emotional talk. anything you i the ultimate shell. it was a very i emotional talk. anything you want the ultimate shell. it was a very - emotional talk. anything you want to sa to emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? — emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? i — emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? lam _ emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? i am thrilled _ emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? i am thrilled he - emotional talk. anything you want to say to him? i am thrilled he gave - say to him? i am thrilled he gave the talk you _ say to him? i am thrilled he gave the talk you did. _ say to him? i am thrilled he gave the talk you did. it _ say to him? i am thrilled he gave the talk you did. it has _ say to him? i am thrilled he gave the talk you did. it has helped i the talk you did. it has helped guide — the talk you did. it has helped guide dogs so much in getting the puppy— guide dogs so much in getting the puppy raisers they need. i hope you .et puppy raisers they need. i hope you get your— puppy raisers they need. i hope you get your new guide dog scene. we are doing _ get your new guide dog scene. we are doing our— get your new guide dog scene. we are doing our best to get them to you guide _ doing our best to get them to you guide dog — doing our best to get them to you guide dog owners. i do doing our best to get them to you guide dog owners.— guide dog owners. i do not think i am auoin guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to _ guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to blub _ guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to blub today. - guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to blub today. i - guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to blub today. i think i guide dog owners. i do not think i am going to blub today. i think it| am going to blub today. i think it was an important story but it would have been quite traumatic to watch, suchis have been quite traumatic to watch, such is the bond. ijust think the

people who do notjust puppy raising but the other volunteer roles, people might look into it. 110 people might look into it. 110 people apply very quickly. it is higher than that. it might be working patterns do not suit it. i believe what happened as guide dogs are nabbing how the people and saying maybe this toy is not the role for you that there are 20 other roles. all of them make a difference. what do you notice? how does it make you feel? for me, it gives you independence. anyone raising a puppy is a hero.- gives you independence. anyone raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much- — raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much- i — raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much. i find _ raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much. i find it— raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much. i find it amazing - raising a puppy is a hero. thank you very much. i find it amazing that i very much. i find it amazing that someone can have a bond with a creature that is so gorgeous, especially like this one, and give them away. yvonne says it is for something better. can you explain the difference it makes to your

life? i the difference it makes to your life? .. ., ., , life? i can. you are in my living room and _ life? i can. you are in my living room and l _ life? i can. you are in my living room and i am _ life? i can. you are in my living room and i am lucky _ life? i can. you are in my living room and i am lucky to - life? i can. you are in my living room and i am lucky to make i life? i can. you are in my living room and i am lucky to make itj life? i can. you are in my living i room and i am lucky to make it as creature comfort as i can. i am not working today. it looks like i am a bit but i am not. it is having to kick myself out of the house and spending longer out of the house. i had a dog cool brandy, then kick and then sammy. it means i can live my life. you do not think about going out. the differences with a cane, i found myself with the mother rebel headaches. when i get to work in central london, ifeel headaches. when i get to work in central london, i feel like headaches. when i get to work in central london, ifeel like i have worked a shift. my head is pulsating with mental exhaustion, grabbing hold of you, which is disconcerting. it is terrifying. however, yvonne,

what you are doing and all the other puppy what you are doing and all the other puppy raisers, people do what you are doing and all the other puppy raisers. people do this what you are doing and all the other puppy raisers, people do this for other charities as well, you are giving me an independence, without having to use cliches about dark spots but it brings light into my life. i am waiting for the right dog. it not want one before it is my turn. untilthen dog. it not want one before it is my turn. until then i do know my life is not complete but we will get there. ., ., ~' is not complete but we will get there. ., ., .. . is not complete but we will get there. ., ., 4' ., ., is not complete but we will get there. ., ., ., , , there. look at that! that is 'ust followin: there. look at that! that is 'ust following mi there. look at that! that is 'ust following all instructions. i there. look at that! that is just following all instructions. telli there. look at that! that is just. following all instructions. tell us a little bit about it. specialist training comes in, that is the next step. if anyone watching links, to have to do anything unusual in relation to bringing up a dog if it

is going to go to a blind person? what do you need to do? irate is going to go to a blind person? what do you need to do? we teach all the usual things, _ what do you need to do? we teach all the usualthings, sit, _ what do you need to do? we teach all the usualthings, sit, come _ what do you need to do? we teach all the usualthings, sit, come and i the usual things, sit, come and stay. every few weeks he goes to puppy stay. every few weeks he goes to puppy class. he adores it. only for the socialisation but also it gets him to meet other guide dog owners and other guide dog puppies and socialise that way. as you can see, he loves to be around people. he does specialist training. hugo, come over here. ., ., ., ., does specialist training. hugo, come over here-— they i does specialist training. hugo, come over here._ they do over here. you have a treat. they do s-ecialist over here. you have a treat. they do specialist training _ over here. you have a treat. they do specialist training puppy _ over here. you have a treat. they do specialist training puppy classes. i specialist training puppy classes. when he goes on to training school he will be fitted with his harness and knows what he needs to do to be with his guide dog owner. what and knows what he needs to do to be with his guide dog owner.— with his guide dog owner. what is hulo with his guide dog owner. what is hugo telling _ with his guide dog owner. what is hugo telling you _ with his guide dog owner. what is hugo telling you now? _ with his guide dog owner. what is hugo telling you now? he - with his guide dog owner. what is hugo telling you now? he is i

with his guide dog owner. what is. hugo telling you now? he is telling me he is rlot _ hugo telling you now? he is telling me he is not quite _ hugo telling you now? he is telling me he is not quite sure _ hugo telling you now? he is telling me he is not quite sure about i hugo telling you now? he is telling me he is not quite sure about the i me he is not quite sure about the light. we developed a specialist training, like he is doing it now. he hasjust completed his training, like he is doing it now. he has just completed his train training, so he can go on the train now. he has done his best training. he goes into cafe and shops. he has to learn how to behave. he loves that. i will go into the local shop and they'll know hugo and i do not think any of them know my name stop can always tell straightaway... l think any of them know my name stop can always tell straightaway... i do can always tell straightaway... i do not know can always tell straightaway... i do rlot know how _ can always tell straightaway... i do not know how involved you are in the process earlier on but can you always tell which dogs will work. some of then clearly it will not work out, that is necessarily the case, isn't it? work out, that is necessarily the case. isn't it?— work out, that is necessarily the case, isn't it? the processes they are bred in _ case, isn't it? the processes they are bred in leamington _ case, isn't it? the processes they are bred in leamington spa i case, isn't it? the processes they are bred in leamington spa in i case, isn't it? the processes theyj are bred in leamington spa in the midlands. guide dogs is the largest breeder of dogs in the uk. they

stopped during a pandemic. when they were about 12 weeks old, give or take a minute go to volunteer puppy raises. they aren't looking for dogs that are motivated by toys and fun stuff but not so much they will be distracted by a teddy bear and drag you under a bus. at the end of that time they go to a guide dog trainer, internationally trained people. they work for guide dogs. roughly 12 weeks, three months are spent getting them used in a harness. at that point they will go to a guide dogs mobility specialist nad degree level international qualifications, not just in level international qualifications, notjust in advance dog training that which a pennant. every stage along the way, if a guide dog is not suitable, there are alternative

careers. i met a wonderful young chap some years ago who was a recipient of a buddy dog. plenty of opportunities to see if a dog is suited to it. comments about, how could a dog be a guide dog? isn't that awful? they love it. they are a partnership. if they are not enjoying their work, they are not a guide dog. they get so much running around and playing in what is known as environmental enrichment. ltirel’ell as environmental enrichment. well done. as environmental enrichment. well done- thank— as environmental enrichment. well done. thank you _ as environmental enrichment. well done. thank you for _ as environmental enrichment. well done. thank you for having us in your hand. thank you. tell us a little bit more. we have gone through some of the detail about how it works in practice. in terms of the emotional thing, in reference to you, it is

quite emotionalfor you, isn't thing, in reference to you, it is quite emotional for you, isn't it? thing, in reference to you, it is quite emotionalfor you, isn't it? i quite emotionalforyou, isn't it? i will cry. especially such an amazing do- will cry. especially such an amazing dog as _ will cry. especially such an amazing dog as hugo because he has been brilliant~ — dog as hugo because he has been brilliant. you know he is destined for a _ brilliant. you know he is destined for a job — brilliant. you know he is destined for a 'ob. . ., i. brilliant. you know he is destined fora'ob. . ., ., ., ., for a 'ob. would you do it again? the for a job. would you do it again? they have _ for a job. would you do it again? they have told _ for a job. would you do it again? they have told me _ for a job. would you do it again? they have told me we _ for a job. would you do it again? they have told me we can i for a job. would you do it again? they have told me we can have i they have told me we can have another — they have told me we can have another one straight afterwards. i am thrilled to bits about the number of people _ am thrilled to bits about the number of people who have taken up the puppy— of people who have taken up the puppy raising role. if of people who have taken up the puppy raising role. if people think that is— puppy raising role. if people think that is too— puppy raising role. if people think that is too much of a commitment for them _ that is too much of a commitment for them. there — that is too much of a commitment for them, there are other roles within guide _ them, there are other roles within guide dogs— them, there are other roles within guide dogs like foster is and things like that _ guide dogs like foster is and things like that. they need lots of them at the moment. like that. they need lots of them at the moment-— like that. they need lots of them at the moment. ., ,, , ., ., .., the moment. thank you for coming in. lovel to the moment. thank you for coming in. lovely to meet — the moment. thank you for coming in. lovely to meet you _ the moment. thank you for coming in. lovely to meet you as _ the moment. thank you for coming in. lovely to meet you as well. _ the moment. thank you for coming in. lovely to meet you as well. just i lovely to meet you as well. just havinl lovely to meet you as well. just having some — lovely to meet you as well. just having some quiet _ lovely to meet you as well. jitst having some quiet time, relaxing. just having some

quiet time, relaxing. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. the home office has suspended an immigration official after a bbc newsnight investigation revealed he'd been posting racist content on whatsapp. rob lewis — a former metropolitan police officer — is understood to have created the group, which also includes other ex—officers. the home office has called the messages "vile and deplorable". from this morning you'll be able to hire electric bikes from transport for london. 500 e—bikes — like this one which the mayor of london tried out last year — will be available. there are now more than 800 docking stations in the capital. american football fans packed out tottenham hotspur stadium at the weekend as nfl returned to the capital. and now the search is on to find the future stars of the sport in london. talent spotters from the united states have been at spurs this week putting hopefuls through their paces. it's been fun, competitive. i enjoyed it, you know?

i love competition, so i'm all here for it. i think my chances are strong. there's always room for improvement, and i've always believed that. there's areas i'm going to work from probably monday but give myself a little time off. bfi london film festival's immersive art and extended realities strand opens today on leake street. and for the first time the lff expanded show has teamed up with the national theatre and the barbican. lff expanded is the new strand for immersive art and extended realities here at the bfi london film festival. we branch out into new forms of storytelling, virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality, immersive audio, and we always use cinema as a jumping off point. let's take a look at the tube board this morning. the dlr has severe delays, and the overground is part suspended. most rail services are getting back to normal this morning following strike action yesterday but passengers using gwr trains int and out of paddington are being warned that industrial action will continue into the weekend. now the weather with kawser. good morning. quite a chilly start to the day,

but it is a bright and breezy one with a ridge of high pressure andplenty of dry weather and good spells of sunshine around, especially during the course of the morning. here is the map and you can see plenty of sunshine around but we will see more in the way of cloud bubbling up as we head into the afternoon, spreading in from the west, but still plenty of breaks to allow the sunshine through and temperatures reaching around the upper teens. through the evening, it remains fairly breezy, clear skies and some cloud around at times but less cold than last night with overnight lows dipping to around eight to 10 celsius, so less chilly, certainly, but there could be one or two cooler spots. looking ahead to friday, there is this cold front and the potential it could bring squally showers into friday afternoon but it should clear away for the weekend, so generally the weekend is looking fairly settled and dry. so for the outlook, today is largely fine and dry with good spells of sunshine. the chance of some squally showers later on on friday

and then for the weekend, fairly dry, settled conditions for the most part and temperatures generally reaching around the mid to high teens. i'm back in half an hour. but there's lots on our website and social media including more on what's being showcased at this year's bfi london film festival. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. the celebrity chef tom kerridge is calling on the government to expand the number of children in england who are offered a free school meal. he says around 800—thousand pupils are currently slipping through cracks in the system. breakfast�*sjohn maguire went to meet him — and find out more. mind yourfingers. mind yourthumb. he's cooked for royalty, politicians and stars of sport and entertainment. but this — this is a tough crowd.

when we put chilli powder in, we only need to put a little bit at a time. today, chef tom kerridge is cooking with, for and against pupils at torridon primary school in south east london. along with the england footballer marcus rashford, tom campaigns against child hunger. they come from similar humble backgrounds and their full—time initiative creates affordable recipes to cook at home. and, today, tom is also calling for free school meals to be made available to a wider range of families. at the minute, there's a disparity. there's a gap of over 800,000 children, whose family qualify for universal credit, but they don't qualify for free school meals. now, that means testing. surely that just has to be one thing. if you qualify for universal credit, then you should be qualifying for free school meals because we know that these are the most vulnerable children in society. they come from areas that are economically challenged. so surely that should be... that's 800,000 kids there that really do need to be looked after. in england, all children up to year 2 can have free school meals during term time.

in year 3 and above, pupils from households on benefits could be eligible. for those on universal credit, net income must be less than £7,400 a year. in northern ireland, that figure is 14,000. and in scotland, the government says it's committed to free meals for all primary children this parliament, and in wales, the same pledge exists by 2024. the head teacher here says they're constantly trying to help families negotiate the bureaucracy involved in applying for free lunches and believes food is vital for learning. it's really important. children need to eat healthily. they need to eat well because if they're not eating well, and if they're going hungry, then they're not able to learn well. so it is really key that they have a really good meal. for some children, that's the only hot meal

they'll have during the day. so it is really important that they do have that healthy, nutritious start. the government in england says it will keep all free school meal eligibility under review, and has expanded access more than any other government in recent decades, currently reaching 1.9 million children. will you have an ice cream or biscuit? the school's head chef has had many successes in national competitions and clearly loves the job he does, and the difference it makes to children's lives. what ijust love is just knowing that i'm feeding the children, and this could be the only meal they eat sometimes. so for me it's a lot of love and passion that goes in it. yeah. you didn't start off wanting to be a school... no. originally, i was in restaurants and hotels, so i think, at first, it was like you don't hear much about school catering, and it does get a bit of a stigma in the press. so i think seeing it for myself hands on, it's more different because the food we produce is... the kids are smiling every day, so... yeah, you having fun?

the school's catering company, chartwells, is today cooking lunch for all of the 650 children here from tom's weekly full—time recipe cards. and the proof of the pudding and the main course is in the eating. and, despite the excitement, there's lots of that going on here today. what did you have? the chicken's nice. the mexican chicken. and you like... what did you have? i like the noodles. you like the noodles. what did you have? pizza. i like the pizza, but i would say it's like, very thin, and it wasn't really cheesy, but otherwise it was very good. sometimes it can be very nice and sometimes it can be just fine. i say very often it's very nice. i really think the food is nice. our cooks do cook good food as well. so far, this is my favourite. the cost—of—living crisis for families and for those supplying food is increasing anxiety about child hunger and therefore

the need for solutions and answers is ever more urgent. john maguire, bbc news, lewisham. how have we got on with lunch today? turns out to more than 20 years alan rickman kept a diary. it turns out to more than 20 years alan rickman kept a diary.— rickman kept a diary. it was written b hand, rickman kept a diary. it was written by hand. and _ rickman kept a diary. it was written by hand, and beautiful— rickman kept a diary. it was written by hand, and beautiful illustrations| by hand, and beautiful illustrations on it as well, because he was an art student. anecdotes, as you can imagine, and razor sharp observations about the people in his life. i observations about the people in his life. ., . observations about the people in his life. . , , , ., ~ observations about the people in his life. . , , , ., ,, ., , life. i have been speaking to his wife and to _ life. i have been speaking to his wife and to his _ life. i have been speaking to his wife and to his great _ life. i have been speaking to his wife and to his great friend, i wife and to his great friend, someone who worked with many times, dame emma thompson. first, a little

reminder of alan rickman at the movies. there will be no foolish wand—waving or silly incantations in this class. that's a very nice suit, mr takagi. it would be a shame to ruin it. this is my other slightly special, personal... thank you. i really, truly, madly love you. i really, truly, madly deeply, love you. i really, truly, madly, deeply, passionately love you. i really truly, madly, deeply, passionately ,remarkably love you. all is well, i've got all my money back and robin hood is dead and i'm going to be king, all as predicted. rima, lovely to meet you. and you. lovely to see you here. on the occasion of your husband's amazing diaries. the first question i have to ask you is, did you know? did you know they existed and how much there was? oh, yes. i remember he wrote them every night and i knew about them. i didn't read them because they were

private but i knew he wrote them. day by day, who you met, what are you up to. were there bits of it that surprised you? i think what i was pleased about more than anything was his humour, because he was very, very funny, alan, and the humour is very much in the book. and it soundsjust like him. rima, reading between the lines, in a way, the reason he was able to do so much and be so good, i think a lot of people have said this, and maybe you have said this too, is because of you. you know, there was a constant thing which meant he could go out and befriend people, do his thing. is that something...? he says quite a few times in the diaries, something i didn't know he's written. "and then rima turned up, and i calmed down." so i did have that role in his life of, i suppose, keeping him stabilised. alan was a classic pisces, swimming in two directions at once, and because i was an aquarian,

i was quite a good balance to that. ican imagine i can imagine that being bereaved, it is amazing, but also full of emotion. it it is amazing, but also full of emotion-— it is amazing, but also full of emotion. . , , . ., emotion. it was difficult reading the first draft, _ emotion. it was difficult reading the first draft, because i i emotion. it was difficult reading the first draft, because i was i the first draft, because i was living every moment of it, as i was there most of the time. so that was hard at the time. as we got to the second and third edit, it got better. ., , better. some of it is quite withering. _ better. some of it is quite withering, and _ better. some of it is quite withering, and people i better. some of it is quite | withering, and people talk better. some of it is quite i withering, and people talk about better. some of it is quite - withering, and people talk about his humour, but some of it is spot on with people and he does not hold back. he with people and he does not hold back. ., , �* , ., back. he doesn't, but we have to remember _ back. he doesn't, but we have to remember he — back. he doesn't, but we have to remember he was _ back. he doesn't, but we have to remember he was writing i back. he doesn't, but we have to remember he was writing it i back. he doesn't, but we have to remember he was writing it at i back. he doesn't, but we have to i remember he was writing it at night after he'd been through a day, and a lot of the worst ones are for film directors. and i'm pretty sure he says nothing that he did not say to their faces. says nothing that he did not say to theirfaces. i’m says nothing that he did not say to their faces. �* . says nothing that he did not say to their faces-— their faces. i'm sure that is true, emma. i've got a little excerpt here i'm seeing from the 21st of january 1994. "leave a rude note for emma." that's you, right? yeah. do you know?

'94? was it in los angeles. it must have been los angeles. it was, and alan and i came back home on the plane. yes, he mentioned that and how lovely it was to spend time with you on the plane. and we laughed, and laughed and laughed, and i remember him telling a story about being very close to a cat and someone who had farted very loudly and it had parted the cat's hair, and ijust remember him telling that story in business class on british airways and us sort of doing that thing of going backwards and forwards. he was so funny, alan. that's the thing. you don't necessarily get that from all of it. his performances are so extraordinary, but when he is funny, oh, my god, he is hilarious. can you explain the thing that for some people he felt maybe, and i'm going to say this because i know it's not true, but a little unapproachable. but he had that manner that maybe people were a little bit uneasy around him. he was terrifying.

he was terrifying! that's fine, because he was such a kind of, he had such dignity and enormous intelligence. and he was not a frivolous person in any way at all, was he? well, he could be occasionally. very occasionally, rima. i'm sure. for instance, like new year's eve, when we had a few drinks, he could get quite giggly and silly, but generally speaking he was a very deep thinker and he took the world very seriously and his role in it very, profoundly seriously which is why he was a great artist, actually. emma, it would be wrong of me on behalf of everyone watching this to not ask about you, alan rickman and love, actually. i am so in the wrong. a classic fool. yes, but you've also

made a fool out of me. you've made the life i lead foolish too. we were having a conversation before, and everyone was saying, that film... how special was that time with him? we didn't have very long on it. the strange thing about this profession is, first of all, you end up learning about and meeting people you would otherwise not come into contact with, and then you end up playing their wives, or their divorced wives or their colleagues, or their sisters or their lovers, or their murderers. i mean, it's really a strange profession and alan and i had energies that were almost entirely opposite. his was subterranean and mysterious and dark. and mine was canine, and above ground and ebullient, so it was like having eeyore and piglet on set, basically, and that is what it was like with love, actually. i would be bouncing around doing

piglet and he would just about put up with my kind of small pinkness. and then we would have a laugh. i think that was a very enjoyable job. sense and sensibility, we adored doing that. i have a proposal to make that should enable him to marry miss steel immediately. since the gentleman is so close a friend of your family, perhaps you would be good enough to mention it to him. oh, colonel, i'm sure he would be only too he would be only too delighted to hear it from your own lips. i think not. i loved also the fact that he played the hero, the romantic hero, really, in that. because he had been cast as quite a lot of villains up until that point and we talked about it, and he was very wonderful as brandon. he had that kind of deep sadness

inside him that then becomes happy. i mean, no one could have played him like that. there is a great quote i've got from the 8th of january, when he was not well but it wasn't towards the end. and he said that doctors came round, after dealing with catheters and drainage and then nervously got to the point — "how did you do the fall at the end of die hard?" they asked. you can imagine the scene, can't you? he's being administered to by the doctors and then, boom. did he always get those kind of questions? yes, he did. always. that was quite a common one, the die hard drop, but the other ones were mostly harry potter.

i can teach you how to bewitch the mind and ensna re the senses. i can tell you how to bottle fame, brew glory, and even put a stopper in death. there is a big thing that shines through all the way through, emma, and this is kind of a lesson for all of us in a way. he seems to be an amazing friend. yes. oh, yes. absolutely there. if you asked him to do anything, he would just do it. no questions asked. he was incredible like that. i remember one night being, literally on the night, i was about to do benefit or a charity thing with robert lindsay, and bob rang up on the day and said, "mate, i have this terrible flu. "i just can't. "it suddenly hit me and i have a temperature and i cannot stand up. " i rang alan and i said, i know you probably can't, but he was in the car, there he was. absolutely fantastic. and the other thing about alan

was he did things first thing in the morning. he never put things off. he was brilliant at never procrastinating. i'm a terrible procrastinator. but alan just got on with things and dealt with it, always immediately. it's a lesson for us all. lovely to see you both. thank you so much. thank you, charlie. lovely to see you. what is lovely about that book is it is like looking inside someone's brain. �* ., ., is like looking inside someone's brain. . . ., ., is like looking inside someone's brain. ~ . ., ., brain. and what a fascinating brain. we did not know _ brain. and what a fascinating brain. we did not know him _ brain. and what a fascinating brain. we did not know him as _ brain. and what a fascinating brain. we did not know him as other i brain. and what a fascinating brain. i we did not know him as other people did, but little bits of him, through and the humourand did, but little bits of him, through and the humour and everything, so it's really funny. flillie and the humour and everything, so it's really funny.— it's really funny. one day i would like to look _ it's really funny. one day i would like to look inside _ it's really funny. one day i would like to look inside carol's i it's really funny. one day i would like to look inside carol's brain, i like to look inside carol's brain, but i know she wouldn't let me. i would mess it around a bit. i swear to you. i'm flattered to think i have got one _ i'm flattered to think i have got one i— i'm flattered to think i have got one. ., . . i'm flattered to think i have got one. ., , , , i'm flattered to think i have got one. . , , , ,., i'm flattered to think i have got one. , , �*, one. iwas 'ust being polite. it's tv one. iwasjust being polite. it's tv politeness. _ one. iwasjust being polite. it's tv politeness. you _ one. iwasjust being polite. it's tv politeness. you are i one. iwasjust being polite. it's tv politeness. you are awful, i one. i wasjust being polite. it'si tv politeness. you are awful, but i like ou. tv politeness. you are awful, but i like you- swiftly — tv politeness. you are awful, but i like you. swiftly moving _ tv politeness. you are awful, but i like you. swiftly moving on. i tv politeness. you are awful, but i like you. swiftly moving on. good. like you. swiftly moving on. good morning — like you. swiftly moving on. good morning. this morning, while we are looking _ morning. this morning, while we are looking at— morning. this morning, while we are looking at a — morning. this morning, while we are looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers. _ looking at a mixture of sunshine and showers, some of the show was heavy and thundery and today will be windy

and thundery and today will be windy and we _ and thundery and today will be windy and we have more rain arriving late in the _ and we have more rain arriving late in the day — and we have more rain arriving late in the day. you can see across the north— in the day. you can see across the north and — in the day. you can see across the north and west where the showers are. north and west where the showers are some — north and west where the showers are. some of them already heavy and thundery— are. some of them already heavy and thundery and we will continue with that scenario through the course of the day _ that scenario through the course of the day. northern and western areas particularly _ the day. northern and western areas particularly prone to showers but on the brisk— particularly prone to showers but on the brisk winds, some of them get over towards the east but many southern — over towards the east but many southern and eastern areas will stay dry. through the day we see showery rain moving _ dry. through the day we see showery rain moving across north wales and into northern england and the weather— into northern england and the weather front brings in more rain across— weather front brings in more rain across the — weather front brings in more rain across the north of northern ireland and also _ across the north of northern ireland and also central scotland. the winds today— and also central scotland. the winds today are _ and also central scotland. the winds today are noticeable once again. these _ today are noticeable once again. these are — today are noticeable once again. these are the sustained winds and the gas _ these are the sustained winds and the gas will be more across the north— the gas will be more across the north and — the gas will be more across the north and west and with exposure we can have _ north and west and with exposure we can have gusts of 50 miles an hour and the _ can have gusts of 50 miles an hour and the temperature ranges between 11 and the temperature ranges between it and _ and the temperature ranges between it and 20 _ and the temperature ranges between 11 and 20 degrees. through the evening — 11 and 20 degrees. through the evening and overnight, the first branch— evening and overnight, the first branch tries to move further north but the _ branch tries to move further north but the second comes in from the north-west. — but the second comes in from the north—west, bumping into it, so we will see _ north—west, bumping into it, so we will see heavier rain across scotland _ will see heavier rain across scotland and northern ireland, squally — scotland and northern ireland, squally winds around this, sinking

south _ squally winds around this, sinking south stop— squally winds around this, sinking south stop clearer skies further south _ south stop clearer skies further south with one or two showers, cooler— south with one or two showers, cooler on— south with one or two showers, cooler on the other side of the weather— cooler on the other side of the weather front with some blustery showers — weather front with some blustery showers. tomorrow, the band of squally— showers. tomorrow, the band of squally rain _ showers. tomorrow, the band of squally rain continues to sink south. — squally rain continues to sink south, eradicating the dry and bright — south, eradicating the dry and bright start and there will be showers _ bright start and there will be showers preceding it and behind it, bright _ showers preceding it and behind it, bright spells of sunshine and showers _ bright spells of sunshine and showers but again some of them will be heavy— showers but again some of them will be heavy and thundery and windy once a-ain be heavy and thundery and windy once again with _ be heavy and thundery and windy once again with temperatures between 11 and 19— again with temperatures between 11 and 19 degrees, but if you like your and19 degrees, but if you like your weather— and 19 degrees, but if you like your weather a — and 19 degrees, but if you like your weather a bit quieter, saturday is looking _ weather a bit quieter, saturday is looking promising before we see more rain and _ looking promising before we see more rain and strong winds coming in from the north—west on sunday. have a lovely weekend. we have some writinl have a lovely weekend. we have some writing aristocracy _ have a lovely weekend. we have some writing aristocracy on _ have a lovely weekend. we have some writing aristocracy on the _ have a lovely weekend. we have some writing aristocracy on the programme i writing aristocracy on the programme this morning. ruthjones is with us. good morning to you. find this morning. ruth jones is with us. good morning to you.— good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin- — good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin- l— good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin. i thought— good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin. i thought that, _ good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin. i thought that, i i good morning to you. and we had sir ian rankin. ! thought that, i will- ian rankin. i thought that, i will sit where sir _ ian rankin. i thought that, i will sit where sir ian _ ian rankin. i thought that, i will sit where sir ian ranking i ian rankin. i thought that, i will sit where sir ian ranking sad. i ian rankin. i thought that, i will| sit where sir ian ranking sad. he knows sit where sir ian ranking sad. knows how sit where sir ian ranking sad. he: knows how to tell a tale.

sit where sir ian ranking sad. he knows how to tell a tale. i've - sit where sir ian ranking sad. he| knows how to tell a tale. i've got sit where sir ian ranking sad. he i knows how to tell a tale. i've got a roof knows how to tell a tale. i've got a proof cepy — knows how to tell a tale. i've got a proof copy and _ knows how to tell a tale. i've got a proof copy and i've _ knows how to tell a tale. i've got a proof copy and i've started - knows how to tell a tale. i've got a proof copy and i've started reading that _ proof copy and i've started reading that he's— proof copy and i've started reading that. he's amazing, isn't he? and ou have that. he's amazing, isn't he? and you have your— that. he's amazing, isn't he? and you have your own _ that. he's amazing, isn't he? 35qu you have your own a new that. he's amazing, isn't he? a"u:c you have your own a new book out. funnily enough. number three. you have your own a new book out. funnily enough. numberthree. it is funnily enough. number three. it is m third funnily enough. number three. it is my third novel. _ funnily enough. numberthree. it is my third novel, called love untold. set the _ my third novel, called love untold. set the scene for us. it is my third novel, called love untold. set the scene for us.— set the scene for us. it is set in wales, set the scene for us. it is set in wales. guess — set the scene for us. it is set in wales, guess what, _ set the scene for us. it is set in wales, guess what, and - set the scene for us. it is set in wales, guess what, and it's - set the scene for us. it is set in i wales, guess what, and it's about four women— wales, guess what, and it's about four women from the same family, the oldest _ four women from the same family, the oldest is _ four women from the same family, the oldest is 90. _ four women from the same family, the oldest is 90, grace, and then 73, and ellen— oldest is 90, grace, and then 73, and ellen who is in her early 50s and ellen who is in her early 50s and at— and ellen who is in her early 50s and at the — and ellen who is in her early 50s and at the end of the chain, rebecca who is_ and at the end of the chain, rebecca who is 16 _ and at the end of the chain, rebecca who is 16 and it's really about mothers _ who is 16 and it's really about mothers and daughters and their relationships, but 30 years ago, alice, _ relationships, but 30 years ago, alice, the — relationships, but 30 years ago, alice, the 70 something year old, she was— alice, the 70 something year old, she was a — alice, the 70 something year old, she was a terribly badly behaved person— she was a terribly badly behaved person and she abandoned the family and nobody had seen her since and now and nobody had seen her since and how grace — and nobody had seen her since and how grace is— and nobody had seen her since and now grace is approaching 90 she wants— now grace is approaching 90 she wants to — now grace is approaching 90 she wants to track her down and make peace _ wants to track her down and make peace with — wants to track her down and make peace with her. but as she does that, _ peace with her. but as she does that, ellen, her granddaughterand that, ellen, her granddaughter and atices— that, ellen, her granddaughterand alice's daughter will not be happy,

because _ alice's daughter will not be happy, because she has deleted her from her life. �* .,, ~ because she has deleted her from her life. ~ ~ ., ., life. almost like one of those olice life. almost like one of those police things _ life. almost like one of those police things with _ life. almost like one of those police things with points - life. almost like one of those | police things with points here. life. almost like one of those - police things with points here. that link start and all that. yes. police things with points here. that link start and all that.— link start and all that. yes, and it is about forgiveness _ link start and all that. yes, and it is about forgiveness and - link start and all that. yes, and it is about forgiveness and tensions within— is about forgiveness and tensions within families, and it is funny, dare _ within families, and it is funny, dare i_ within families, and it is funny, dare i say— within families, and it is funny, dare i say it. but it is funny in parts — dare i say it. but it is funny in parts and _ dare i say it. but it is funny in parts and moving in parts and it's had a _ parts and moving in parts and it's had a great — parts and moving in parts and it's had a great response and has gone into the _ had a great response and has gone into the top ten sunday times bestsellers this week. straight in at number nine. 30 bestsellers this week. straight in at number nine.— bestsellers this week. straight in at number nine. so all of that work ou are at number nine. so all of that work you are doing _ at number nine. so all of that work you are doing on — at number nine. so all of that work you are doing on the _ at number nine. so all of that work you are doing on the book - at number nine. so all of that work you are doing on the book tour, . at number nine. so all of that work| you are doing on the book tour, you were telling me the dates you are travelling around, is working. exactly. i am doing this lovely book tour and _ exactly. i am doing this lovely book tour and it's— exactly. i am doing this lovely book tour and it's great to meet people and i've _ tour and it's great to meet people and i've been all over the place, 0swestry, — and i've been all over the place, oswestry, chester last night, tiveabte — oswestry, chester last night, liveable tonight, manchester, birmingham, ilkley, and we are meeting — birmingham, ilkley, and we are meeting people after having the time of everything being on screen and getting _ of everything being on screen and getting to — of everything being on screen and getting to meet people in the flesh. how do _ getting to meet people in the flesh. how do your book fans differ from your tv fans? because there won't

always be crossover.— your tv fans? because there won't always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic — always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic in _ always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic in the _ always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic in the book— always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic in the book events, - always be crossover. when i do a q and a comic in the book events, a l and a comic in the book events, a lot of— and a comic in the book events, a lot of people ask, stella gets asked about— lot of people ask, stella gets asked about a _ lot of people ask, stella gets asked about a lot. people ask when it is coming _ about a lot. people ask when it is coming back. gavin and stacey was this little _ coming back. gavin and stacey was this little series i did and it gets asked _ this little series i did and it gets asked about a lot as well. but i think— asked about a lot as well. but i think people seem to straddle, can i say straddle, they straddle the two. you know— say straddle, they straddle the two. you know by asking you just made it rude. i you know by asking you 'ust made it rude. . if you know by asking you just made it rude-_ if you _ you know by asking you just made it rude._ if you had - rude. iwill, have i? if you had 'ust rude. iwill, have i? if you had just left it. it's such _ just left it. it's such a great word. the english - just left it. it's such a great - word. the english language has such gorgeous— word. the english language has such gorgeous words which is why i enjoy writing, _ gorgeous words which is why i enjoy writing, and — gorgeous words which is why i enjoy writing, and i always try to get the word _ writing, and i always try to get the word behemoth. it�*s writing, and i always try to get the word behemoth.— word behemoth. it's one of those words i don't _ word behemoth. it's one of those words i don't know _ word behemoth. it's one of those words i don't know how _ word behemoth. it's one of those words i don't know how to - word behemoth. it's one of those - words i don't know how to pronounce. i wouldn't have said behemoth. that is the welsh — i wouldn't have said behemoth. that is the welsh in _ i wouldn't have said behemoth. that is the welsh in me. _ i wouldn't have said behemoth. that is the welsh in me. everything is phonetic —

is the welsh in me. everything is phonetic. the welsh language is frenetic, — phonetic. the welsh language is frenetic, so what you see is what you read. — frenetic, so what you see is what you read. so _ frenetic, so what you see is what you read, so maybe that is why i say boheme _ you read, so maybe that is why i say boheme. it�*s— you read, so maybe that is why i say boheme. �*, ., . ., boheme. it's also quite challenging to know exactly _ boheme. it's also quite challenging to know exactly what _ boheme. it's also quite challenging to know exactly what it _ boheme. it's also quite challenging to know exactly what it is. - boheme. it's also quite challenging to know exactly what it is. it's - to know exactly what it is. it's just like a big thing. is it to know exactly what it is. it's just like a big thing. is it a noun, is it a adjective? _ just like a big thing. is it a noun, is it a adjective? a _ just like a big thing. is it a noun, is it a adjective? a word - just like a big thing. is it a noun, is it a adjective? a word of- is it a adjective? a word of mystery _ is it a adjective? a word of mystery-— is it a adjective? a word of m ste .,, ., ., ~ is it a adjective? a word of mste .,, ., ., ~ mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was sa inc mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was sa in: that mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was saying that he _ mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was saying that he gets _ mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was saying that he gets inspiration - mystery. sir ian rankin said, he was saying that he gets inspiration from | saying that he gets inspiration from all around, so often in edinburgh he will go into a cafe and he had inspiration from somebody wearing a card identifying they had copd so they didn't have to wear a mask and rebus has copd. where are your nuggets from? do you go out looking for inspiration, or do you think, this hasjust come for inspiration, or do you think, this has just come to me and that's how the book comes about? i this hasjust come to me and that's how the book comes about? i don't go out lookin: how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for— how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, _ how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, but _ how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, but i _ how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, but i do, _ how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, but i do, if- how the book comes about? i don't go out looking for it, but i do, if i - out looking for it, but i do, if i encounter— out looking for it, but i do, if i encounter somebody like say a really grumpy _ encounter somebody like say a really grumpy receptionist, they are always classic, _ grumpy receptionist, they are always classic, when they don't have eye contact _ classic, when they don't have eye contact and — classic, when they don't have eye contact and they talk to you like this and — contact and they talk to you like this and i— contact and they talk to you like this and ijust think, that's great.

0r this and ijust think, that's great. or if— this and ijust think, that's great. or if you — this and ijust think, that's great. or if you have an interview and i had an— or if you have an interview and i had an interview this week with someone — had an interview this week with someone who shall remain nameless who was— someone who shall remain nameless who was really quite arch, and i thought. — who was really quite arch, and i thought, that is going in the next book _ thought, that is going in the next book i_ thought, that is going in the next book iwill— thought, that is going in the next book. i will somehow get it in and i make _ book. i will somehow get it in and i make a _ book. i will somehow get it in and i make a note — book. i will somehow get it in and i make a note of people i meet, and 'ust make a note of people i meet, and just little _ make a note of people i meet, and just little things sometimes. i had a pedicure — just little things sometimes. i had a pedicure and the young lady that was doing — a pedicure and the young lady that was doing it. am i allowed to say young _ was doing it. am i allowed to say young lady?— was doing it. am i allowed to say young lady? yes. she just laughed young lady? yes. she 'ust laughed at eve hina. young lady? is; she just laughed at everything. not young lady? is; she just laughed at everything. not like young lady? i9; she just laughed at everything. not like in response to a funny— everything. not like in response to a funny thing. it everything. not like in response to a funny thing-— everything. not like in response to a funny thing._ did | a funny thing. it was nervous. did she lauuh a funny thing. it was nervous. did she laugh at _ a funny thing. it was nervous. did she laugh at your— a funny thing. it was nervous. did she laugh at your feet? _ a funny thing. it was nervous. did she laugh at your feet? maybe i a funny thing. it was nervous. did i she laugh at your feet? maybe that's what it was- — she laugh at your feet? maybe that's what it was. maybe _ she laugh at your feet? maybe that's what it was. maybe she _ she laugh at your feet? maybe that's what it was. maybe she was - what it was. maybe she was hysterical laughing at my feet and was covering up.— was covering up. maybe she was nervous she _ was covering up. maybe she was nervous she could _ was covering up. maybe she was nervous she could not _ was covering up. maybe she was nervous she could not fix - was covering up. maybe she was nervous she could not fix your. was covering up. maybe she was i nervous she could not fix your feet. that's true. my feet are ok. thea;r that's true. my feet are ok. they are lovely- _ that's true. my feet are ok. they are lovely. you've _ that's true. my feet are ok. i"i9 are lovely. you've introduced another word, arch, are lovely. you've introduced anotherword, arch, i'm not are lovely. you've introduced another word, arch, i'm not even sure i know what it really means. who said she was quite arch. arch.

yes. sort who said she was quite arch. arch. yes- sort of _ who said she was quite arch. arch. yes. sort of like _ who said she was quite arch. arch. yes. sort of like she _ who said she was quite arch. arch. yes. sort of like she said _ who said she was quite arch. arch. yes. sort of like she said she... i who said she was quite arch. arch. | yes. sort of like she said she... we were _ yes. sort of like she said she... we were talking — yes. sort of like she said she... we were talking about promoting the book and — were talking about promoting the book and she wanted to talk about other— book and she wanted to talk about other stuff and she said, because we are not— other stuff and she said, because we are not a _ other stuff and she said, because we are not a shop. this is not a shop. and i_ are not a shop. this is not a shop. and i said. — are not a shop. this is not a shop. and i said. oh. _ are not a shop. this is not a shop. and i said, oh, 0k, and i wanted to askfor— and i said, oh, 0k, and i wanted to askfor half— and i said, oh, 0k, and i wanted to ask for half a — and i said, oh, 0k, and i wanted to ask for half a pound of toffee instead _ ask for half a pound of toffee instead i_ ask for half a pound of toffee instead. i think arch is a slightly schoolmarm... raised eyebrows. a bit schoolmarm. .. raised eyebrows. a bit cold and frosty- _ schoolmarm. .. raised eyebrows. a bit cold and frosty. yes, _ schoolmarm. .. raised eyebrows. a bit cold and frosty. yes, cold _ schoolmarm. .. raised eyebrows. a bit cold and frosty. yes, cold and - cold and frosty. yes, cold and frosty and _ cold and frosty. yes, cold and frosty and direct _ cold and frosty. yes, cold and frosty and direct and - cold and frosty. yes, cold and frosty and direct and to i cold and frosty. yes, cold and frosty and direct and to the i cold and frosty. yes, cold and i frosty and direct and to the point. very— frosty and direct and to the point. very little — frosty and direct and to the point. very little warmth. that frosty and direct and to the point. very little warmth.— frosty and direct and to the point. very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. _ very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. i— very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. i can _ very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. i can only - very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. i can only do i very little warmth. that was a good raised eyebrow. i can only do that l raised eyebrow. i can only do that one. raised eyebrow. i can only do that one- when _ raised eyebrow. i can only do that one- when i _ raised eyebrow. i can only do that one. when i did _ raised eyebrow. i can only do that one. when i did the _ raised eyebrow. i can only do that one. when i did the hearty - raised eyebrow. i can only do that one. when i did the hearty jakesl one. when i did the heartyjakes film, _ one. when i did the heartyjakes film. she — one. when i did the heartyjakes film, she used to raise an eyebrow and that— film, she used to raise an eyebrow and that was handy thing, but if i try to _ and that was handy thing, but if i try to do — and that was handy thing, but if i try to do the right one it doesn't work _ try to do the right one it doesn't work -- — try to do the right one it doesn't work. —— hattiejacques. it's the same _ work. —— hattiejacques. it's the same with— work. —— hattiejacques. it's the same with a— work. —— hattiejacques. it's the same with a snarl. i can do that onei _ same with a snarl. i can do that one. lrut— same with a snarl. i can do that one. but not— same with a snarl. i can do that one, but not that one. this is a very— one, but not that one. this is a very intelligent interview. feel free. i'm having _ very intelligent interview. feel free. i'm having quite - very intelligent interview. feel free. i'm having quite a - very intelligent interview. feel free. i'm having quite a nice i very intelligent interview. feel i free. i'm having quite a nice time. if we call out _ free. i'm having quite a nice time. if we call out emotions, _ free. i'm having quite a nice time. if we call out emotions, can i free. i'm having quite a nice time. if we call out emotions, can you . free. i'm having quite a nice time. |

if we call out emotions, can you do the faces. i if we call out emotions, can you do the faces. :, �* :, :, , the faces. i haven't done any acting for so long — the faces. i haven't done any acting for so long now. _ the faces. i haven't done any acting for so long now. there _ the faces. i haven't done any acting for so long now. there you - the faces. i haven't done any acting for so long now. there you go. i the faces. i haven't done any acting l for so long now. there you go. when will ou for so long now. there you go. when will you act — for so long now. there you go. when will you act again? _ for so long now. there you go. when will you act again? i _ for so long now. there you go. when will you act again? i don't _ for so long now. there you go. when will you act again? i don't know. i for so long now. there you go. when will you act again? i don't know. no | will you act again? i don't know. no lans. i will you act again? i don't know. no plans- i have _ will you act again? i don't know. no plans. i have another— will you act again? i don't know. no plans. i have another book - will you act again? i don't know. no plans. i have another book to i will you act again? i don't know. no plans. i have another book to write. but you are good acting. i think as i'm getting — but you are good acting. i think as i'm getting older, i am 56 and i think— i'm getting older, i am 56 and i think i'm— i'm getting older, i am 56 and i think i'm not very good at multitasking.— think i'm not very good at multitaskinu. :, :, multitasking. can i say something to ou? you multitasking. can i say something to you? you just _ multitasking. can i say something to you? you just said _ multitasking. can i say something to you? you just said i _ multitasking. can i say something to you? you just said i am _ multitasking. can i say something to you? you just said i am 56 _ multitasking. can i say something to you? you just said i am 56 now. i you? you just said i am 56 now. there were gasps in the gallery. i won't even tell you the language used, but there were gasps. really? she looks great. she used, but there were gasps. really? she looks great-— she looks great. she turned 56 a cou - le she looks great. she turned 56 a coule of she looks great. she turned 56 a couple of weeks _ she looks great. she turned 56 a couple of weeks ago, _ she looks great. she turned 56 a couple of weeks ago, and - she looks great. she turned 56 a couple of weeks ago, and i i she looks great. she turned 56 a couple of weeks ago, and i do i she looks great. she turned 56 a i couple of weeks ago, and i do find as i get— couple of weeks ago, and i do find as i get older, and i rememberwhen we were_ as i get older, and i rememberwhen we were filming stellar, we would film for— we were filming stellar, we would film for four weeks and i'd have a week_ film for four weeks and i'd have a week off— film for four weeks and i'd have a week off and i would film a chat show_ week off and i would film a chat show and — week off and i would film a chat show and it makes me go cold thinking — show and it makes me go cold thinking about that. sol show and it makes me go cold thinking about that. so i have to take _ thinking about that. so i have to take things a little more slowly and do one _ take things a little more slowly and do one thing at a time, so i will focus _ do one thing at a time, so i will focus on — do one thing at a time, so i will focus on the next novel which i am committed — focus on the next novel which i am committed to write. give focus on the next novel which i am committed to write.— committed to write. give us a icture committed to write. give us a picture of _ committed to write. give us a picture of you _ committed to write. give us a picture of you working - committed to write. give us a picture of you working out - committed to write. give us a | picture of you working out your novels. do you sit in a certain

place? where are you when you are writing? place? where are you when you are writin: ? �* . , place? where are you when you are writin: ? �* ., , ., , , place? where are you when you are writina? �* ., , ., , , ., writing? i'm a bit one size fits all and i can go _ writing? i'm a bit one size fits all and i can go anywhere. - writing? i'm a bit one size fits all and i can go anywhere. i - writing? i'm a bit one size fits all and i can go anywhere. i can - writing? i'm a bit one size fits all| and i can go anywhere. i can write with lots— and i can go anywhere. i can write with lots of— and i can go anywhere. i can write with lots of people around me, if i have _ with lots of people around me, if i have my— with lots of people around me, if i have my laptop, i don't need absolute _ have my laptop, i don't need absolute silence.— have my laptop, i don't need absolute silence. ., .., , ., absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes. — absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes. but _ absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes, but i _ absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes, but i tend _ absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes, but i tend to _ absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes, but i tend to write - absolute silence. you could be in a cafe? yes, but i tend to write at i cafe? yes, but i tend to write at home. i cafe? yes, but i tend to write at home- i like _ cafe? yes, but i tend to write at home. i like writing _ cafe? yes, but i tend to write at home. i like writing in _ cafe? yes, but i tend to write at home. i like writing in the - cafe? yes, but i tend to write at i home. i like writing in the kitchen because _ home. i like writing in the kitchen because i— home. i like writing in the kitchen because i am within reach of the coffee, — because i am within reach of the coffee, and i'm not very organised or disciplined writer. if i have a deadline. — or disciplined writer. if i have a deadline. i_ or disciplined writer. if i have a deadline, i will write all hours to .et deadline, i will write all hours to get it— deadline, i will write all hours to get it done — deadline, i will write all hours to get it done and i think that's a bit of a head — get it done and i think that's a bit of a head girl in me, that i will meet — of a head girl in me, that i will meet the _ of a head girl in me, that i will meet the deadline, but i'm not very good _ meet the deadline, but i'm not very good at _ meet the deadline, but i'm not very good at having a structured day. i don't _ good at having a structured day. i don't go. — good at having a structured day. i don't go. i— good at having a structured day. i don't go, i will write from nine until— don't go, i will write from nine until three _ don't go, i will write from nine until three and have a break and all that stuff — until three and have a break and all that stuff. maybe i should. it might be beneficial.— that stuff. maybe i should. it might be beneficial. how good are you with our be beneficial. how good are you with your writing — be beneficial. how good are you with your writing being — be beneficial. how good are you with your writing being edited? _ be beneficial. how good are you with your writing being edited? 0h, - be beneficial. how good are you with your writing being edited? oh, i - be beneficial. how good are you with your writing being edited? oh, i am| your writing being edited? oh, i am fine, your writing being edited? oh, i am fine. because _ your writing being edited? oh, i am fine. because i— your writing being edited? oh, i am fine, because i have _ your writing being edited? oh, i am fine, because i have a _ your writing being edited? oh, i am fine, because i have a default - fine, because i have a default position— fine, because i have a default position of thinking i'm always in the wrong, — position of thinking i'm always in the wrong, so i always expect other

people _ the wrong, so i always expect other people are — the wrong, so i always expect other people are right. and sometimes i no, people are right. and sometimes i go. oh. _ people are right. and sometimes i go, oh, really? should i have thought— go, oh, really? should i have thought that? i don't know. but i like being — thought that? i don't know. but i like being edited and i like people offering _ like being edited and i like people offering up information and suggestions. i have a great editor, frankie _ suggestions. i have a great editor, frankie gray at transworld and my agent— frankie gray at transworld and my agent is— frankie gray at transworld and my agent is good at suggesting things, so it's— agent is good at suggesting things, so it's good. i agent is good at suggesting things, so it's good-— so it's good. i was going to ask, when you _ so it's good. i was going to ask, when you are — so it's good. i was going to ask, when you are on _ so it's good. i was going to ask, when you are on your— so it's good. i was going to ask, when you are on your book - so it's good. i was going to ask, when you are on your book tour| so it's good. i was going to ask, - when you are on your book tour and you are open to suggestions, if someone in the audience, does this happen, they say, you know that scene where shouldn't she have said... do people advise you on how it should have gone? thea;r said. .. do people advise you on how it should have gone?— it should have gone? they haven't et. the it should have gone? they haven't yet- they said. — it should have gone? they haven't yet- they said. i — it should have gone? they haven't yet. they said, i couldn't - it should have gone? they haven't yet. they said, i couldn't believe i yet. they said, i couldn't believe the ending, because the ending of the ending, because the ending of the book. — the ending, because the ending of the book, even though i say so myself. — the book, even though i say so myself. it— the book, even though i say so myself, it is quite moving. very moving — myself, it is quite moving. very moving and _ myself, it is quite moving. very moving and people have commented on it. moving and people have commented on it but _ moving and people have commented on it but some _ moving and people have commented on it. but some people, the reaction to thing _ it. but some people, the reaction to thing i_ it. but some people, the reaction to thing i find — it. but some people, the reaction to thing i find interesting. they will react— thing i find interesting. they will react to — thing i find interesting. they will react to the ending and whether they found _ react to the ending and whether they found it _ react to the ending and whether they found it too much or it was too upsetting —

found it too much or it was too upsetting or it was fantastic or whatever— upsetting or it was fantastic or whatever and the same with characters, some people love grace, some _ characters, some people love grace, some people love alice because she is this— some people love alice because she is this a _ some people love alice because she is this a bad girl turned good and i love that — is this a bad girl turned good and i love that i— is this a bad girl turned good and i love that. i love to create characters that everybody can have a different _ characters that everybody can have a different opinion of. have characters that everybody can have a different opinion of.— different opinion of. have you ever been art different opinion of. have you ever been part of— different opinion of. have you ever been part of a _ different opinion of. have you ever been part of a book _ different opinion of. have you ever been part of a book club? - different opinion of. have you ever been part of a book club? not - different opinion of. have you ever been part of a book club? not a i been part of a book club? not a committed _ been part of a book club? not a committed member, _ been part of a book club? not a committed member, a - been part of a book club? not a committed member, a sort- been part of a book club? not a committed member, a sort of. been part of a book club? not a committed member, a sort of visiting member— committed member, a sort of visiting member and — committed member, a sort of visiting memberand during covid, committed member, a sort of visiting member and during covid, i visited some _ member and during covid, i visited some online clubs and my friend nicola _ some online clubs and my friend nicola had — some online clubs and my friend nicola had one and i popped in there and talked _ nicola had one and i popped in there and talked about it. and i mention a book club— and talked about it. and i mention a book club in— and talked about it. and i mention a book club in this novel because ellen. — book club in this novel because ellen, who is very different from her mum. — ellen, who is very different from her mum, very straight laced, a control— her mum, very straight laced, a control freak, she goes to a book club and — control freak, she goes to a book club and gets really cross because the ladies — club and gets really cross because the ladies in the group instantly want _ the ladies in the group instantly want to— the ladies in the group instantly want to talk about casting it for an on-screen— want to talk about casting it for an on—screen version and she's like, why can't— on—screen version and she's like, why can't we _ on—screen version and she's like, why can't we talk about the book? she is— why can't we talk about the book? she is very— why can't we talk about the book? she is very strict about that. do

ou she is very strict about that. you think she is very strict about that. dr? you think that in your own head about your own books? it’s you think that in your own head about your own books?- about your own books? it's a question _ about your own books? it's a question i — about your own books? it's a question i get— about your own books? it's a question i get asked - about your own books? it's a question i get asked a - about your own books? it's a question i get asked a lot - about your own books? it's a question i get asked a lot at| about your own books? it's a - question i get asked a lot at book events. _ question i get asked a lot at book events, who do you think would play the character, or will it be turned into a _ the character, or will it be turned into a screenplay? my feeling is, it would _ into a screenplay? my feeling is, it would be _ into a screenplay? my feeling is, it would be lovely. there's been a lot of interest — would be lovely. there's been a lot of interest in it being turned into a screen — of interest in it being turned into a screen version, but can we let the book— a screen version, but can we let the book live _ a screen version, but can we let the book live as— a screen version, but can we let the book live as a — a screen version, but can we let the book live as a book for a bit? i was talking _ book live as a book for a bit? i was talking to — book live as a book for a bit? i was talking to graham norton and i thought— talking to graham norton and i thought sometimes it would be nice for people _ thought sometimes it would be nice for people to imagine the characters, because my idea of what grace _ characters, because my idea of what grace looks — characters, because my idea of what grace looks like will not be the same — grace looks like will not be the same as— grace looks like will not be the same as anyone else and much you turn the _ same as anyone else and much you turn the character into a person on screen. _ turn the character into a person on screen. you — turn the character into a person on screen, you cannot imagine them as anything _ screen, you cannot imagine them as anything else. screen, you cannot imagine them as anything else-— anything else. very true. wise words. what _ anything else. very true. wise words. what a _ anything else. very true. wise words. what a good _ anything else. very true. wise words. what a good know - anything else. very true. wise words. what a good know to i anything else. very true. wise - words. what a good know to finish on. i words. what a good know to finish on. . words. what a good know to finish on, ., ., words. what a good know to finish on. ., ., , ,, on. i am a very wise person. apparently- _ on. i am a very wise person. apparently. well _ on. i am a very wise person. apparently. well said. - ruth's latest book 'love untold' is out now. you're watching bbc breakfast.

this is bbc news with the latest headlines. breaking news in the last few minutes. police say at least twenty people have been killed including children — following a mass shooting at a pre—school in north eastern thailand. the royal college of nursing is balloting all its members across the uk for strike action — the first time in its history. liz truss travels to prague for a new european members group — could it pave the way for a changing relationship with the eu, even whilst the prime minister is under pressure at home?