�* south �*south showers south showers have �*south showers have been few further south showers have been few and further between and much of the south—east has been dry. as we head through this evening it stays windy for all areas, particularly in the north and we have this weather front spreading southwards which will have heavy rain on it. fairly mild in the south because of the breeze, cooler further north. this cold front will have heavy rain on it, short lived as it spread southwards and lots of isobars on the chart so it stays windy. it pushes southwards across england and wales through the day. ahead of odd shower but plenty of sunshine across across the south and east. that rain eventually reaches the south—east into the evening period but further north a mixture of sunshine and showers, again windy for all, of sunshine and showers, again windy forall, gusts of sunshine and showers, again windy for all, gusts over that front moves

through the south—east during friday night. in two saturday, for much of saturday, high pressure will bring a fine day and it stays fine for the south—east on sunday but the next batch of wet weather a lovely day on saturday, a lot of sunshine, sunday turns wet and windy across scotland, northern ireland but it stays fine for part two of the weekend across the south. thanks, stav. and that's bbc news at ten on the 6th of october. there's more analysis of the day's main stories on newsnight with kirsty wark, which isjust getting under way on bbc two. the news continues here on bbc one, as now it's time to join our colleagues across the nations and regions for the news where you are, but from the ten team it's goodnight.

hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the former trade minister, lord digbyjones, and rachel cunliffe, who's senior associate editor for the new statesman. and the energy theme is followed in the i which warns of "electricty blackout warning this winter" and the worst case scenario with households facing three hour energy cuts. the metro goes with the energy crisis and warns of a "winter of disconnect" after the national grid confirmed they had contingency plans for blackouts. the male has the headlines that

blackout deal sparked a storm. people could be of the £10 a day not to use energy at peak times. the financial times leads with the bank of england saying the uk was on the brink of crisis last week after the chancellor's mini budget and if it had not intervened they would have been severe disruption to the financial markets and pensions. so let's begin... joining me now, lord digbyjones and richard cunliffe. thank you for joining us this evening. let's look at the front page of the metro. we are seeing this winter of disconnect, rachel, talk me through this. , , . ., ., this. this is quite challenging for --eole this. this is quite challenging for peeple who _ this. this is quite challenging for peeple who are _ this. this is quite challenging for people who are dyslexic - this. this is quite challenging for people who are dyslexic like - this. this is quite challenging forj people who are dyslexic like me, this. this is quite challenging for l people who are dyslexic like me, a play on the winter of discontent of the 1970s. this is the warning from the 1970s. this is the warning from the energy regulators today that britain may face power outages this

winter. it is worth starting by saying this is very much the worst case scenario. this would be a situation in which we will stop getting any imports of gas and electricity from europe at all and that wind generated power isn't enough to match demand. but in the worst—case scenarios they are modelling, then there is part of the country could have planned power outages for up to three hours at a time. and people would get a warning of this day in advance, it would have to be signed off by the prime minister and the king. i am still getting used to saying that, the king. i getting used to saying that, the kinu. ~ ., ., getting used to saying that, the kinu. ~ . ., , , getting used to saying that, the kinu. ~ . . , , but king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not— king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not a _ king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not a case _ king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not a case of— king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not a case of whether - king. i think we all are, yes. but this is not a case of whether or. king. i think we all are, yes. but l this is not a case of whether or not the government orders power outages, it is whether or not they authorised planned outages, with the fear is if you don't do this you will get unplanned outages and blackouts,

which are much more dangerous. looking at the metro, we are looking at reasons why this is happening. lord digbyjones, it is stating here that we could have this repeat of the winter of discontent like in the 19705. , ., ., the winter of discontent like in the 19705. h, ., ., ., ., 19705. good evening and good evening rachel. sometimes _ 19705. good evening and good evening rachel. sometimes i _ 19705. good evening and good evening rachel. sometimes i am _ 19705. good evening and good evening rachel. sometimes i am so _ 19705. good evening and good evening rachel. sometimes i am so pleased i 19705. good evening and good evening | rachel. sometimes i am so pleased we have a free _ rachel. sometimes i am so pleased we have a free press and i am so pleased — have a free press and i am so pleased to _ have a free press and i am so pleased to live in a world where they— pleased to live in a world where they can — pleased to live in a world where they can prick the balloons of arrogance and they can ask the questions _ arrogance and they can ask the questions that no one else does. and it sets _ questions that no one else does. and it sets up _ questions that no one else does. and it sets up a _ questions that no one else does. and it sets up a mood and feeling then so he _ it sets up a mood and feeling then so be it _ it sets up a mood and feeling then so be it it — it sets up a mood and feeling then so be it it is — it sets up a mood and feeling then so be it. it is seriously alarmist this _ so be it. it is seriously alarmist this we — so be it. it is seriously alarmist this we are _ so be it. it is seriously alarmist this. we are now in the first week of october— this. we are now in the first week of october and this is about the depth _ of october and this is about the depth of— of october and this is about the depth of winter. it is about the first blackouts since the 1970s.

unlikely — first blackouts since the 1970s. unlikely is the word used, unless we have a _ unlikely is the word used, unless we have a perfect storm of a uk cold snap, _ have a perfect storm of a uk cold snap, no— have a perfect storm of a uk cold snap, no gas imports are not enough wind for— snap, no gas imports are not enough wind for the wind farms. those three things— wind for the wind farms. those three things have _ wind for the wind farms. those three things have got to happen and it is in attout— things have got to happen and it is in about three months' time, by which _ in about three months' time, by which time, who knows what is going to he _ which time, who knows what is going to be happening with putin and ukraine — to be happening with putin and ukraine. at the same time, of course, — ukraine. at the same time, of course, you _ ukraine. at the same time, of course, you have that, as you have 'ust course, you have that, as you have just referred — course, you have that, as you have just referred to, the winter of discontent, and a play on the word of disconnect, but that was not brought— of disconnect, but that was not brought about by a problem out with the country, what this is. it was brought— the country, what this is. it was brought about by a problem within the country which was basically a nrinors— the country which was basically a minor's strike. and then you had atter— minor's strike. and then you had after that— minor's strike. and then you had after that one, you then moved into all the _ after that one, you then moved into all the different public sector is going _ all the different public sector is going on— all the different public sector is going on strike, we had rubbish on the streets. — going on strike, we had rubbish on the streets, we had people saying will he _ the streets, we had people saying will he let— the streets, we had people saying will be let people into a hospital or not — will be let people into a hospital or not. the whole of the union

movement— or not. the whole of the union movement in the public sector went on strike, _ movement in the public sector went on strike, took on callaghan, the labour— on strike, took on callaghan, the labour government and that ushered in margaret thatcherjust a few months — in margaret thatcherjust a few months later. that was a distinctly political _ months later. that was a distinctly political issue, part of which lead to blackouts. this is a completely different — to blackouts. this is a completely different set of circumstances and it is early~ — different set of circumstances and it is early. so the media have got onto— it is early. so the media have got onto this — it is early. so the media have got onto this, don't blame them, they have _ onto this, don't blame them, they have become alarmist on the front page _ have become alarmist on the front page. again, i understand that sells newspapers. if it can set up a mood in the _ newspapers. if it can set up a mood in the country where we start worrying _ in the country where we start worrying about wasting our electricity, we start using it off—peak, we start ensuring electricity, we start using it off— peak, we start ensuring we electricity, we start using it off—peak, we start ensuring we use less because it is costing so much money _ less because it is costing so much money. then this alarmist attitude today— money. then this alarmist attitude today would have done some good. in terms _ today would have done some good. in terms of— today would have done some good. in terms of this is going to be the end of life as _ terms of this is going to be the end of life as we know it, we are at least three months away by their own admission— least three months away by their own admission and they even print the words. _

admission and they even print the words. this— admission and they even print the words, this is unlikely unless we -et words, this is unlikely unless we get the — words, this is unlikely unless we get the perfect storm of those three conditions _ get the perfect storm of those three conditions all at once. it is not something _ conditions all at once. it is not something on which anybody can get firm and _ something on which anybody can get firm and resolute and say, this will happen _ firm and resolute and say, this will ha en. . ~ ., firm and resolute and say, this will ha en. ., ,, ., ., firm and resolute and say, this will ha en. . ~ ., ., happen. taking on that point, if it does happen. _ happen. taking on that point, if it does happen, rachel, _ happen. taking on that point, if it does happen, rachel, we - happen. taking on that point, if it does happen, rachel, we are - happen. taking on that point, if it i does happen, rachel, we are going happen. taking on that point, if it - does happen, rachel, we are going on to the i newspaper, this talks about what households will have to do and switching of electricity and using electricity at certain times, that is what is starting to come out? actually, this is a sensible plan of giving people who have smart metres which can measure the energy the option of using appliances at low peak times, so overnight and therefore saving energy and reducing pressure on the grid. if you have a smart metre you may get some kind of financial incentive. i don't have a smart metre, i don't know how they work, but if you have got one, great. on the broader point of why

this warning is coming now, it is absolutely right that is three months ahead of the crunch point which would be in the depth of winter when it is very cold. it is worth pointing out that other countries in europe, which are facing a similar kind of energy pressure due to putin's war in ukraine, have been warning about the need for energy use reduction since the summer. in germany, they have a public programme so they will not heat swimming pools, spain has put limits on the temperatures you can heat your home to, the air conditioning you can use so an eu wide commitment to cut gas use by 10%, electricity use by 15%. precisely because of the issue of what happened in the depth of winter. the uk government, we had a leadership election which took priority over the summer, but liz truss' government have been incredibly resistant to even suggesting, not saying they will

ration energy, but even suggesting households might want to reduce their usage to cut down costs and also for the national good. unpatriotic and national effort, lets show putin by turning your thermostat down. we have had none of that from the government, she thinks it is being a nanny state and we do have energy storage capacity in this country, gas storage. not as much as we could have done because a lot of it was sold off under previous tory governments. if you make the reductions now, we are onlyjust hearing the where as other countries have been told it for months. maybe we can avert this crisis, in which case, great. i don't think it is irresponsible to warn it is a scenario that we could potentially be facing. if i scenario that we could potentially be facina. . , scenario that we could potentially be facina. ., , ., , scenario that we could potentially be facina. ._ ., , ., be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly — be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly we _ be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly we would _ be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly we would get _ be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly we would get to - be facing. if i may, i was wondering how quickly we would get to the - how quickly we would get to the party _ how quickly we would get to the party politics side of this. i can remember— party politics side of this. i can remember when party politics side of this. i can rememberwhen i was party politics side of this. i can remember when i was director—general of the _ remember when i was director—general of the cbi _ remember when i was director—general of the cbi i_ remember when i was director—general of the cbi i had a labour government in charge _

of the cbi i had a labour government in charge. fever going on again and again— in charge. fever going on again and againand— in charge. fever going on again and again and again at how the storage capacity— again and again at how the storage capacity in— again and again at how the storage capacity in this country is appallingly bad. they wouldn't do anything — appallingly bad. they wouldn't do anything about it, they wouldn't build _ anything about it, they wouldn't build any— anything about it, they wouldn't build any more. and then a labour government was themed and it carried on with— government was themed and it carried on with the _ government was themed and it carried on with the conservative government and they— on with the conservative government and they did not build enough storage — and they did not build enough storage capacity for gas in this country— storage capacity for gas in this country and that chicken is coming home _ country and that chicken is coming home to _ country and that chicken is coming home to roost. it is matter if it was _ home to roost. it is matter if it was tory— home to roost. it is matter if it was tory or— home to roost. it is matter if it was tory or labour, rachel, they were _ was tory or labour, rachel, they were both — was tory or labour, rachel, they were both as bad as each other. but for the were both as bad as each other. for the last 12 were both as bad as each other. emit for the last 12 years, we haven't been building enough gas storage facilities and they have closed storage facilities under this government and the previous ones. i think there is a certain amount of responsibility you can lay on the part of the party that has been there for ten years. if we going to

blame the last labour government, i am sure we can blame the next one as well. ~ ., ,., , am sure we can blame the next one as well. ~ ., , , well. we have some very differing opinions there. _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we love _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we love healthy . opinions there. we love healthy debate on the show. let's move on now. i don't think we will agree on that. if we cannot, we will go on to the guardian. this paper takes it a step further. the article saying these rolling power cuts. if it were to happen and this was to go ahead, charities are saying this could put lives at risk. what are your thoughts on that? lloyd jones? it is absolutely right. if you move on will it _ absolutely right. if you move on will it happen, so let's put a scenario— will it happen, so let's put a scenario where it does happen and charities— scenario where it does happen and charities would be morning, but frankly— charities would be morning, but frankly so— charities would be morning, but frankly so with everybody else. the dependency on electricity is so acute — dependency on electricity is so acute that it would put, in so many

different _ acute that it would put, in so many different areas, it would lives be at risk? — different areas, it would lives be at risk? we are now into that what if, into— at risk? we are now into that what if, into thinking again and moving on and _ if, into thinking again and moving on and over— if, into thinking again and moving on and over thinking, if you like. second _ on and over thinking, if you like. second guessing. at the conclusion of there _ second guessing. at the conclusion of there being power cuts are is there _ of there being power cuts are is there will— of there being power cuts are is there will be lives which will be at risk _ there will be lives which will be at risk it— there will be lives which will be at risk. it would depend how they managed — risk. it would depend how they managed it. rachelwas risk. it would depend how they managed it. rachel was saying earlier, — managed it. rachel was saying earlier, she is right, this concept of warning — earlier, she is right, this concept of warning and they're managing it in certain— of warning and they're managing it in certain areas in certain ways. so you probably— in certain areas in certain ways. so you probably have hospitals with 20 47 electricity but private homes that wouldn't. there would be some businesses — that wouldn't. there would be some businesses cut but other businesses which _ businesses cut but other businesses which are _ businesses cut but other businesses which are providing something vital, they would _ which are providing something vital, they would probably carry on. but this is— they would probably carry on. but this is getting into the realms of second—guessing. we are all going to indulge _

second—guessing. we are all going to indulge and _ second—guessing. we are all going to indulge and overthinking at a time when _ indulge and overthinking at a time when frankly there are too many prohahles — when frankly there are too many probables out there. if it could get that sense — probables out there. if it could get that sense of come on, let's pull together— that sense of come on, let's pull together now and do the things we were talking about, then yes, of course — were talking about, then yes, of course. but for various newspapers now to _ course. but for various newspapers now to either, rachel to either blame — now to either, rachel to either blame it— now to either, rachel to either blame it on politicians when it a national— blame it on politicians when it a national issue or at the same time to get— national issue or at the same time to get alarmist about it, i think a bit to get alarmist about it, i think a hit of— to get alarmist about it, i think a bit of calmness wouldn't go amiss. rachel, _ bit of calmness wouldn't go amiss. rachel, let's get your response quickly before we move on. it is very difficult _ quickly before we move on. it is very difficult to _ quickly before we move on. it is very difficult to be _ quickly before we move on. it 3 very difficult to be calm if you are the patient or the child that needs dialysis at home which is a highly energy intensive medical treatment, which is what is being warned about here. obviously you would hope that if blackouts did occur there would be some provision made for people with disabilities and in those situations to make sure if it is the case between turning the thermostat

down and life—saving treatment and others, that is accounted for. i’m others, that is accounted for. i'm sure we will _ others, that is accounted for. i'm sure we will hear— others, that is accounted for. i'm sure we will hear a lot more about that and journalists, looking ahead to what could happen. let's move on to what could happen. let's move on to the financial times, rachel. this bank of england letter, talk us through that.— bank of england letter, talk us through that. this is the bank of encland through that. this is the bank of england explaining _ through that. this is the bank of england explaining its _ through that. this is the bank of england explaining its reasoningj through that. this is the bank of. england explaining its reasoning for what happened last week. in the wake of the mini budget, which wasn't all that mini, essentially the uk's financial credibility was trashed on the international markets which made uk debt far less attractive than it had been, which meant people were trying to off—load it and sell it quickly, which could potentially have put uk pension funds at risk. not to be alarmist because i know digby will gets upset about that, but it could have triggered a new financial crisis. if you have these

financial crisis. if you have these financial institutions trying to