tv Dateline London BBC News October 14, 2022 7:30pm-8:01pm BST
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sombre but... hello and welcome to the programme which, for the last 25 years, has been the place where the uk's leading political commentators debate the big themes of the week. alongside them, the foreign correspondents who blog, pod, broadcast, and yes even these days write for audiences back home from the dateline: london. it may be our final edition but we're still looking forward not back leaders and their future. after liz truss told herfinance minister, the chancellor kwarsi kwarteng, to go, how long before british conservatives force her to do the same? biden or trump?
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who will win a second term in the white house, or might someone else get the chance of a first? and can china survive a third term for president xi? in the studio are: jeff mcallister, time magazine's white house correspondent during the clinton years, and then chief of the magazine's london bureau. he and his wife now run their own international law firm. eunice goes, a portuguese writer and academic, lectures on comparative government which, i guess, is how countries learn from each other�*s mistakes; and steve richards, who arrived at westminster just as the conservative party was evicting margaret thatcher from downing street. the latest episode of rock and roll politics, his podcast, is entitled the next labour government and the power of markets. have events of the last few hours, perhaps certainly the last few weeks, steve, provided you with an insight into those two thoughts, the power of the market and the prospects for a change of government?— prospects for a change of government? prospects for a change of covernment? ,., ., ., ~ , government? the power of the markets as such is that — government? the power of the markets as such is that there _ government? the power of the markets as such is that there are _ government? the power of the markets as such is that there are a _
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government? the power of the markets as such is that there are a few - government? the power of the markets as such is that there are a few iron - as such is that there are a few iron laws in the british politics. it is wild, as we all know but one of them seems to be that although england, not the whole of the uk, but england tends to vote for conservative governments, they turn away when conservative governments get into trouble with the markets. they did it with john major, trouble with the markets. they did it withjohn major, they trouble with the markets. they did it with john major, they are trouble with the markets. they did it withjohn major, they are always doing it with labour governments, and that has happened now. it is striking, we have had many dramas over this 12 year period of tory rule with borisjohnson and brexit and everything. it is this. the markets responding almost immediately to that mini budget. the turmoil that has followed has led to this extraordinary position, where liz truss, who sought definition and purpose through that mini budget, is having to scrap it all, because the markets found it unacceptable. so, yeah, there are bigger lessons to come if there is to be a labour government, but, for now, i think it
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isjust remarkable to government, but, for now, i think it is just remarkable to reflect on something that has never really happened before in british politics. a new prime minister comes in, they nearly always get a honeymoon. and there are questions whirling with great intensity amongst conservative mps as to whether she can survive. we will talk more about that in a moment, eunice, looking at your own country's history in dealing with economic crises, it has had a terminalfor the economic crises, it has had a terminal for the first part of this century, really big terminal for many years, it had to deal with before things calmed down. i am assuming liz truss, were she a student in your comparative government lessons, what lesson would you hope she would take from other governments have had to endure, when they have been challenged by the markets or when the economic policy has not convinced them? i the economic policy has not convinced them?— the economic policy has not convinced them? i think the main lesson is that _ convinced them? i think the main lesson is that you _ convinced them? i think the main lesson is that you are _ convinced them? i think the main lesson is that you are not - convinced them? i think the main lesson is that you are not in - convinced them? i think the main lesson is that you are not in full l lesson is that you are not in full control— lesson is that you are not in full control of— lesson is that you are not in full control of your agenda, there are constraints — control of your agenda, there are constraints. the portuguese government has dealt with constraints for a very long time and the european union is a very big constraint — the european union is a very big constraint. it forces a kind of
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fiscai— constraint. it forces a kind of fiscal responsibility to the government. liz truss came in and thought— government. liz truss came in and thought that she was able to set up and enrolled and implement a radical agenda _ and enrolled and implement a radical agenda for— and enrolled and implement a radical agenda for which voters had not voted _ agenda for which voters had not voted in — agenda for which voters had not voted in 2019. if she would be a student— voted in 2019. if she would be a student in— voted in 2019. if she would be a student in my class, i would be doubted — student in my class, i would be doubted that one of the first things i tell doubted that one of the first things iteit my— doubted that one of the first things i tell my students is that they need to learn— i tell my students is that they need to learn the constraints, power matters — to learn the constraints, power matters. the fact that if you don't have _ matters. the fact that if you don't have powerful supporters, supporting your agenda, you are not going to be able to— your agenda, you are not going to be able to implement it. timing matters _ able to implement it. timing matters. to start to implement an agenda _ matters. to start to implement an agenda that is essentially to support— agenda that is essentially to support the 1% at a time of a cost of living _ support the 1% at a time of a cost of living crisis is cognitive dissonance of a higher magnitude. thirdty. _ dissonance of a higher magnitude. thirdly, there is the whole question of tinting, _ thirdly, there is the whole question of timing, the question of power and also evidence—based politics. are you trying — also evidence—based politics. are you trying to implement an agenda for which _ you trying to implement an agenda for which there is no evidence that
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it is going — for which there is no evidence that it is going to work? it is very laudable _ it is going to work? it is very laudable to want to implement a progrowth agenda but there is no evidence — progrowth agenda but there is no evidence whatsoever that liz truss's agenda _ evidence whatsoever that liz truss's agenda would lead to growth. giving tax cuts _ agenda would lead to growth. giving tax cuts to _ agenda would lead to growth. giving tax cuts to millionaires, there is no evidence that shows that it fosters — no evidence that shows that it fosters growth. it helps those millionaires to buy another yacht or a second _ millionaires to buy another yacht or a second home abroad. it will not promote — a second home abroad. it will not promote growth. what will promote growth _ promote growth. what will promote growth is _ promote growth. what will promote growth is investment in infrastructure, in education, health care system — infrastructure, in education, health care system as well. the fact that you have — care system as well. the fact that you have thousands of people sick at the moment is a huge disadvantage to the moment is a huge disadvantage to the british— the moment is a huge disadvantage to the british labour market at the nronrent — the british labour market at the moment. if you really are serious about— moment. if you really are serious about progrowth strategy, these are the policies you need to invest. jeff. _ the policies you need to invest. jeff. i_ the policies you need to invest. jeff. iwas— the policies you need to invest. jeff, i was struck listening to, in the last hours of friday, to some of those people who had previously supported liz truss now saying, one backbench conservative veteran mp told us at the bbc "i don't doubt her sincerity is", he voted for her
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and supported herfrom her sincerity is", he voted for her and supported her from the start, "but i am concerned about her lack of resolve". she disappointed the people who supported her by compromising in this way and slimming her chancellor over the side. has she a chance of persuading some of those who didn't support her that she can do it?— that she can do it? well, she's not widely known _ that she can do it? well, she's not widely known for _ that she can do it? well, she's not widely known for her— that she can do it? well, she's not widely known for her persuasive i widely known for her persuasive powers — widely known for her persuasive powers she _ widely known for her persuasive powers. she did _ widely known for her persuasive powers. she did not _ widely known for her persuasive powers. she did not have - widely known for her persuasive powers. she did not have very. widely known for her persuasive - powers. she did not have very many mps on _ powers. she did not have very many mps on her— powers. she did not have very many mps on her side _ powers. she did not have very many mp5 on her side when _ powers. she did not have very many mp5 on her side when she _ powers. she did not have very many mp5 on her side when she started . powers. she did not have very many. mp5 on her side when she started the leadership— mp5 on her side when she started the leadership contest. _ mps on her side when she started the leadership contest.— leadership contest. about 50 out of 200 and something. _ leadership contest. about 50 out of 200 and something. really, - leadership contest. about 50 out of 200 and something. really, if- leadership contest. about 50 out of 200 and something. really, if you | 200 and something. really, if you look at this _ 200 and something. really, if you look at this incompetent _ 200 and something. really, if you look at this incompetent this - look at this incompetent this quickly— look at this incompetent this quickly in _ look at this incompetent this quickly in a _ look at this incompetent this quickly in a party, _ look at this incompetent this quickly in a party, after- look at this incompetent this quickly in a party, after all, i look at this incompetent this i quickly in a party, after all, has look at this incompetent this - quickly in a party, after all, has a reputation — quickly in a party, after all, has a reputation for _ quickly in a party, after all, has a reputation for being _ quickly in a party, after all, has a reputation for being ruthless - quickly in a party, after all, has a reputation for being ruthless at l reputation for being ruthless at staving — reputation for being ruthless at staying in — reputation for being ruthless at staying in power... _ reputation for being ruthless at staying in power. . ._ staying in power... laughter this is not _ staying in power... laughter this is not a — staying in power... laughter this is not a good _ staying in power... laughter this is not a good look. - staying in power... laughter this is not a good look. also l this is not a good look. also pa rticuta riv _ this is not a good look. also particularly perverse - this is not a good look. also particularly perverse that. this is not a good look. also. particularly perverse that here this is not a good look. also- particularly perverse that here she was giving — particularly perverse that here she was giving the _ particularly perverse that here she was giving the banks, _ particularly perverse that here she was giving the banks, the - particularly perverse that here shej was giving the banks, the financial sector. _ was giving the banks, the financial sector. lots— was giving the banks, the financial sector. iots of— was giving the banks, the financial sector, lots of kisses, _ was giving the banks, the financial sector, lots of kisses, bankers' - sector, lots of kisses, bankers' honuses— sector, lots of kisses, bankers' bonuses and _ sector, lots of kisses, bankers' bonuses and lower— sector, lots of kisses, bankers' bonuses and lower corporation| sector, lots of kisses, bankers' . bonuses and lower corporation tax rate and _ bonuses and lower corporation tax rate and other— bonuses and lower corporation tax rate and other lower—
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bonuses and lower corporation tax rate and other lower tax _ bonuses and lower corporation tax rate and other lower tax rates, - bonuses and lower corporation tax| rate and other lower tax rates, and they rejected — rate and other lower tax rates, and they rejected it _ rate and other lower tax rates, and they rejected it. where _ rate and other lower tax rates, and they rejected it. where does - rate and other lower tax rates, and they rejected it. where does she i rate and other lower tax rates, andl they rejected it. where does she go from here? — they rejected it. where does she go from here? it— they rejected it. where does she go from here? it has— they rejected it. where does she go from here? it has crystallised - they rejected it. where does she go from here? it has crystallised this l from here? it has crystallised this sense _ from here? it has crystallised this sense about — from here? it has crystallised this sense about the _ from here? it has crystallised this sense about the british _ from here? it has crystallised this sense about the british economyl from here? it has crystallised this . sense about the british economy that eunice _ sense about the british economy that eunice is— sense about the british economy that eunice is talking _ sense about the british economy that eunice is talking to _ sense about the british economy that eunice is talking to — _ sense about the british economy that eunice is talking to — in _ sense about the british economy that eunice is talking to — in 2016, - eunice is talking to — in 2016, britain's _ eunice is talking to — in 2016, britain's economy— eunice is talking to — in 2016, britain's economy was - eunice is talking to — in 2016, britain's economy was 90% l eunice is talking to — in 2016,| britain's economy was 90% of germany's _ britain's economy was 90% of germany's and _ britain's economy was 90% of germany's and that _ britain's economy was 90% of germany's and that it - britain's economy was 90% of germany's and that it is - britain's economy was 90% ofj germany's and that it is under britain's economy was 90% of - germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's _ germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's. that _ germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's. that is _ germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's. that is a _ germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's. that is a short - germany's and that it is under 70% of germany's. that is a short time. there _ of germany's. that is a short time. there has— of germany's. that is a short time. there has been— of germany's. that is a short time. there has been covid _ of germany's. that is a short time. there has been covid but— of germany's. that is a short time. there has been covid but there - of germany's. that is a short time. j there has been covid but there has also been _ there has been covid but there has also been brexit. _ there has been covid but there has also been brexit. low— there has been covid but there has also been brexit. low productivity. also been brexit. low productivity has been — also been brexit. low productivity has been a — also been brexit. low productivity has been a consistent _ also been brexit. low productivity has been a consistent problem . also been brexit. low productivityj has been a consistent problem for the british— has been a consistent problem for the british economy. _ has been a consistent problem for the british economy. just - has been a consistent problem for| the british economy. just lowering taxes _ the british economy. just lowering taxes doesn't _ the british economy. just lowering taxes doesn't do _ the british economy. just lowering taxes doesn't do that. _ the british economy. just lowering taxes doesn't do that. she - the british economy. just lowering| taxes doesn't do that. she thought she had _ taxes doesn't do that. she thought she had the — taxes doesn't do that. she thought she had the programme _ taxes doesn't do that. she thought she had the programme that - taxes doesn't do that. she thought she had the programme that could| she had the programme that could unite _ she had the programme that could unite everybody— she had the programme that could unite everybody and _ she had the programme that could unite everybody and she _ she had the programme that could unite everybody and she had - she had the programme that could unite everybody and she had two l unite everybody and she had two years _ unite everybody and she had two years before _ unite everybody and she had two years before the _ unite everybody and she had two years before the next _ unite everybody and she had two years before the next election i unite everybody and she had two years before the next election to make _ years before the next election to make it — years before the next election to make it work _ years before the next election to make it work. now, _ years before the next election to make it work. now, what - years before the next election to make it work. now, what is - years before the next election to make it work. now, what is shel years before the next election to i make it work. now, what is she left with? _ make it work. now, what is she left with? is _ make it work. now, what is she left with? is she — make it work. now, what is she left with? is she a — make it work. now, what is she left with? is she a dead _ make it work. now, what is she left with? is she a dead woman- make it work. now, what is she leftl with? is she a dead woman walking? make it work. now, what is she left. with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't _ with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go _ with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that — with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that far, _ with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that far, but _ with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that far, but she - with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that far, but she has - with? is she a dead woman walking? i wouldn't go that far, but she has to i wouldn't go that far, but she has to pull something _ wouldn't go that far, but she has to pull something out— wouldn't go that far, but she has to pull something out and _ wouldn't go that far, but she has to pull something out and the - wouldn't go that far, but she has to pull something out and the press i pull something out and the press conference — pull something out and the press conference today _ pull something out and the press conference today doesn't - pull something out and the press conference today doesn't look i pull something out and the pressl conference today doesn't look like she's— conference today doesn't look like she's got— conference today doesn't look like she's got an — conference today doesn't look like she's got an awful— conference today doesn't look like she's got an awful lot _ conference today doesn't look like she's got an awful lot of _ conference today doesn't look like she's got an awful lot of bright - she's got an awful lot of bright ideas — she's got an awful lot of bright ideas how— she's got an awful lot of bright ideas. how could _ she's got an awful lot of bright ideas. how could she? - she's got an awful lot of bright ideas. how could she? she - she's got an awful lot of brightl ideas. how could she? she had she's got an awful lot of bright - ideas. how could she? she had them all last— ideas. how could she? she had them all last week! — ideas. how could she? she had them all last week! find _ ideas. how could she? she had them all last week!— all last week! and she's had to kind of dot to several _ all last week! and she's had to kind of dot to several people _ all last week! and she's had to kind of dot to several people have - all last week! and she's had to kind of dot to several people have said l of dot to several people have said she has effectively had say," look,
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my ideas, as she put it, the budget in certain places went further and faster than the markets would tolerate". in the sense that they were frightened by what she was doing. if she has now moved with these compromises, not, after all, cancelling the corporation tax rise that had been put in by rishi sunak when he was chancellor on the boris johnson, not after all when he was chancellor on the boris johnson, not afterall scrapping when he was chancellor on the boris johnson, not after all scrapping the 45p tax rate, it is 46p in scotland. that would, effectively, say, my ideas kind of don't work but i'm still worth having in charge of them. . �* . . still worth having in charge of them. . �*, ., ., them. yeah, it's a fascinating example. _ them. yeah, it's a fascinating example. as _ them. yeah, it's a fascinating example, as eunice _ them. yeah, it's a fascinating example, as eunice was - them. yeah, it's a fascinating - example, as eunice was suggested, of the constraints of power. and someone wholly miss reading those constraints. if she had begun by saying, "look, iam constraints. if she had begun by saying, "look, i am a low tax tory, my aspiration is to lower taxes over time" and hadn't done what she is now not doing anyway, she would have beenin now not doing anyway, she would have been in a wholly different position.
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if she had brought in some of her internal opponents, which prime ministers who haven't won an election have to do, they may not like it, but they haven't had the electorate's authority enhancing boost, so why she didn't see that is a really interesting question. i think they've been in powerfor so long, it is utterly intoxicating and mesmerising when you become prime minister. you think, "well, i've done it and all the others i knew haven't. �* done it and all the others i knew haven't. . ., , ., , haven't. and others who might be better than _ haven't. and others who might be better than me _ haven't. and others who might be better than me have _ haven't. and others who might be better than me have failed. - haven't. and others who might be better than me have failed. theyl better than me have failed. they have all failed _ better than me have failed. they have all failed and _ better than me have failed. they have all failed and here - better than me have failed. tie: have all failed and here are my better than me have failed. ti9:1 have all failed and here are my and i'm just going to go for it. she didn't dare speak and no one dared to tell her, "hold on a second, you have won a leadership contest, tory mps didn't vote for you by a majority, you haven't had the electorate's support, the markets are hovering tentatively at that point... " she was constrained and, boy, does she realise it now. because she is having to... to sack
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a chancellor who was your kind of kindred spirit politically and put in someone who wasn't is another vivid example of the constraints of power. vivid example of the constraints of ower. : y :, vivid example of the constraints of ower. : , :, :, g :, vivid example of the constraints of ower. : i. :, g :, :, power. and you mentioned john ma'or, prime minister — power. and you mentioned john ma'or, prime minister in i power. and you mentioned john ma'or, prime minister in the i power. and you mentioned john ma'or, prime minister in the 1990s. �* power. and you mentioned john ma'or, prime minister in the 1990s. when h prime minister in the 1990s. when black wednesday happened, the big attack on the pound and it fell out of the european exchange rate mechanism, despite the chancellor throwing in those days, no independent back in england but the chancellor through british money at it, he failed. we left the european exchange rate, things calmed down and a few months later, he was sacked as chancellor. john major remained as prime ministerfor another three and a half years. that is an important _ another three and a half years. “trust is an important cautionary died. who knows what's going to happen? —— cautionary guide. there was speculation thatjohn major was about to fall when we fell out of the european exchange mechanism when he was slaughtered at the 1997 election. but he stayed in for that five year parliamentary term. despite all the feverish speculation that it would be michael heseltine,
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ken clark. never happened. it is very difficult to remove a prime minister. tory mps this weekend have talked about nothing else. but how and with whom our protective shields... i'm not predicting she will survive. it seems to be unsustainable. but how they do it and with whom our problem is that means quite often prime ministers do stay on much longer than media orthodoxy might suggest.- stay on much longer than media orthodoxy might suggest. there is talk about what's _ orthodoxy might suggest. there is talk about what's happening - orthodoxy might suggest. there is talk about what's happening in - orthodoxy might suggest. there is talk about what's happening in the united states. we have the us mid—term elections coming up, jeff, about a month from now on a slightly less. it's not a time for politicians in the united states to adopt brave positions. they have to adopt brave positions. they have to adopt positions that will guarantee that their supporters are behind them. but we had joe biden kind of taking the bull by the horns this week and saying, "i am up to the job, i turned 18 next month, if donald trump stands again, i will
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beat him". a confident message and it seems that the democrats have a bit of a spring in their step at the moment but is thatjustified, given that donald trump remains a live political threat still? tiara that donald trump remains a live political threat still?— political threat still? two sets of problems _ political threat still? two sets of problems. one, _ political threat still? two sets of problems. one, the _ political threat still? two sets of problems. one, the larger- political threat still? two sets of| problems. one, the larger trump problems. one, the largertrump problem — problems. one, the largertrump problem and _ problems. one, the largertrump problem and how— problems. one, the largertrump problem and how he _ problems. one, the largertrump problem and how he does- problems. one, the largertrump problem and how he does in- problem and how he does in presidential— problem and how he does in presidential terms - problem and how he does in presidential terms and - problem and how he does in presidential terms and the i problem and how he does in- presidential terms and the other is the median — presidential terms and the other is the median political— presidential terms and the other is the median political problem - presidential terms and the other is the median political problem of. presidential terms and the other is| the median political problem of the midterms — the median political problem of the midterms. generally— the median political problem of the midterms. generally they- the median political problem of the midterms. generally they are - the median political problem of the midterms. generally they are not l midterms. generally they are not widely— midterms. generally they are not widely voted _ midterms. generally they are not widely voted on. _ midterms. generally they are not widely voted on. they— midterms. generally they are not widely voted on. they are - midterms. generally they are not widely voted on. they are bad - midterms. generally they are not widely voted on. they are bad for the party— widely voted on. they are bad for the party in — widely voted on. they are bad for the party in power. _ widely voted on. they are bad for the party in power. and - widely voted on. they are bad for the party in power. and there - widely voted on. they are bad for the party in power. and there is. the party in power. and there is high _ the party in power. and there is high inflation _ the party in power. and there is high inflation and _ the party in power. and there is high inflation and all— the party in power. and there is high inflation and all these - the party in power. and there is. high inflation and all these things we know— high inflation and all these things we know about _ high inflation and all these things we know about that _ high inflation and all these things we know about that would - high inflation and all these things we know about that would be - high inflation and all these things - we know about that would be dragging down the _ we know about that would be dragging down the democrats. _ we know about that would be dragging down the democrats. they _ we know about that would be dragging down the democrats. they seem - we know about that would be dragging down the democrats. they seem to i we know about that would be draggingl down the democrats. they seem to be. on the _ down the democrats. they seem to be. on the other— down the democrats. they seem to be. on the other hand, _ down the democrats. they seem to be. on the other hand, the _ down the democrats. they seem to be. on the other hand, the democrats - down the democrats. they seem to be. on the other hand, the democrats are. on the other hand, the democrats are energised _ on the other hand, the democrats are energised because _ on the other hand, the democrats are energised because they _ on the other hand, the democrats are energised because they are _ on the other hand, the democrats are energised because they are scared - on the other hand, the democrats are energised because they are scared of| energised because they are scared of trump _ energised because they are scared of trump there — energised because they are scared of trump. there has _ energised because they are scared of trump. there has been _ energised because they are scared of trump. there has been the _ energised because they are scared of trump. there has been the ruling - trump. there has been the ruling about— trump. there has been the ruling about abortion _ trump. there has been the ruling about abortion and _ trump. there has been the ruling about abortion and fear _ trump. there has been the ruling about abortion and fear of - trump. there has been the ruling about abortion and fear of what . trump. there has been the ruling i about abortion and fear of what the supreme _ about abortion and fear of what the supreme court— about abortion and fear of what the supreme court is— about abortion and fear of what the supreme court is going _ about abortion and fear of what the supreme court is going to- about abortion and fear of what the supreme court is going to do- about abortion and fear of what the supreme court is going to do next. supreme court is going to do next time _ supreme court is going to do next time the — supreme court is going to do next time. the smart _ supreme court is going to do next time. the smart money— supreme court is going to do next time. the smart money now- supreme court is going to do next time. the smart money now saysl supreme court is going to do next. time. the smart money now says the republicans — time. the smart money now says the republicans will _ time. the smart money now says the republicans will retake _ time. the smart money now says the republicans will retake the _ time. the smart money now says the republicans will retake the house . republicans will retake the house after which — republicans will retake the house after which they— republicans will retake the house after which they will— republicans will retake the house after which they will do _ republicans will retake the house after which they will do 1 - republicans will retake the house after which they will do 1 million l after which they will do 1 million investigations— after which they will do 1 million investigations of— after which they will do 1 million investigations of the _ after which they will do 1 million investigations of the biden - investigations of the biden administration _ investigations of the biden
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administration and - investigations of the biden administration and try- investigations of the biden administration and try to l investigations of the biden i administration and try to slow evervthing _ administration and try to slow everything down _ administration and try to slow everything down before - administration and try to slow everything down before the l administration and try to slow- everything down before the election. and the _ everything down before the election. and the democrats _ everything down before the election. and the democrats may _ everything down before the election. and the democrats may retain - everything down before the election. and the democrats may retain the i and the democrats may retain the senate _ and the democrats may retain the senate but — and the democrats may retain the senate but it— and the democrats may retain the senate but it is— and the democrats may retain the senate but it is still— and the democrats may retain the senate but it is still anybody's- senate but it is still anybody's guess — senate but it is still anybody's guess it _ senate but it is still anybody's guess it is _ senate but it is still anybody's guess. it is volatile. _ senate but it is still anybody's guess. it is volatile. then - senate but it is still anybody's guess. it is volatile. then the| guess. it is volatile. then the interesting _ guess. it is volatile. then the interesting question- guess. it is volatile. then the interesting question of- guess. it is volatile. then the interesting question of what i guess. it is volatile. then the - interesting question of what does that mean— interesting question of what does that mean for— interesting question of what does that mean for who _ interesting question of what does that mean for who runs _ interesting question of what does that mean for who runs for- that mean for who runs for president? _ that mean for who runs for president? trump- that mean for who runs for president? trump is- that mean for who runs for president? trump is giving that mean for who runs for- president? trump is giving every si-n president? trump is giving every sign he _ president? trump is giving every sign he is — president? trump is giving every sign he is going _ president? trump is giving every sign he is going to _ president? trump is giving every sign he is going to run. - president? trump is giving every sign he is going to run. biden . president? trump is giving every sign he is going to run. biden isl sign he is going to run. biden is now— sign he is going to run. biden is now giving _ sign he is going to run. biden is now giving every— sign he is going to run. biden is now giving every sign _ sign he is going to run. biden is now giving every sign that - sign he is going to run. biden is now giving every sign that he i sign he is going to run. biden is - now giving every sign that he wants to run— now giving every sign that he wants to run and — now giving every sign that he wants to run and is— now giving every sign that he wants to run and is going _ now giving every sign that he wants to run and is going to— now giving every sign that he wants to run and is going to run. - now giving every sign that he wants to run and is going to run. essen - to run and is going to run. even thou~h a to run and is going to run. even though a poll— to run and is going to run. even though a poll last _ to run and is going to run. even though a poll last month - to run and is going to run.” though a poll last month suggested that 67% of voters thought he shouldn't! ~ that 67% of voters thought he shouldn't!— shouldn't! well, that's right. trum . 's shouldn't! well, that's right. trump's slightly _ shouldn't! well, that's right. trump's slightly less. - shouldn't! well, that's right. trump's slightly less. yes, l shouldn't! well, that's right. . trump's slightly less. yes, 5796. shouldn't! well, that's right. - trump's slightly less. yes, 5796. we trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have _ trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this _ trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this problem _ trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this problem of— trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this problem of getting - trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this problem of getting rid - trump's slightly less. yes, 57%. we have this problem of getting rid of. have this problem of getting rid of a sitting _ have this problem of getting rid of a sitting prime _ have this problem of getting rid of a sitting prime minister— have this problem of getting rid of a sitting prime minister is- a sitting prime minister is difficult _ a sitting prime minister is difficult but _ a sitting prime minister is difficult but a _ a sitting prime minister is difficult but a sitting - a sitting prime minister is- difficult but a sitting president is impossible! _ difficult but a sitting president is impossible! when— difficult but a sitting president is impossible! when you _ difficult but a sitting president is impossible! when you are - difficult but a sitting president is impossible! when you are the i difficult but a sitting president is - impossible! when you are the sitting president. _ impossible! when you are the sitting president. how— impossible! when you are the sitting president, how anybody _ impossible! when you are the sitting president, how anybody comes - impossible! when you are the sitting president, how anybody comes up i impossible! when you are the sitting president, how anybody comes up in| president, how anybody comes up in your own _ president, how anybody comes up in your own party— president, how anybody comes up in your own party to— president, how anybody comes up in your own party to try— president, how anybody comes up in your own party to try to _ president, how anybody comes up in your own party to try to defeat - president, how anybody comes up in your own party to try to defeat you, i your own party to try to defeat you, it would _ your own party to try to defeat you, it would be — your own party to try to defeat you, it would be a — your own party to try to defeat you, it would be a bloodbath. _ your own party to try to defeat you, it would be a bloodbath. if- your own party to try to defeat you, it would be a bloodbath. if he - your own party to try to defeat you, | it would be a bloodbath. if he wants the nomination, _ it would be a bloodbath. if he wants the nomination, it— it would be a bloodbath. if he wants the nomination, it is _ it would be a bloodbath. if he wants the nomination, it is probably- it would be a bloodbath. if he wants the nomination, it is probably his. l the nomination, it is probably his. unless _ the nomination, it is probably his. unless it— the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is— the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is such _ the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is such a _ the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is such a drubbing - the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is such a drubbing in- the nomination, it is probably his. unless it is such a drubbing in the| unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms — unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms that— unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms that it _ unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms that it just _ unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms that it just looks -
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unless it is such a drubbing in the midterms that it just looks like i unless it is such a drubbing in the| midterms that it just looks like no one buys— midterms that it just looks like no one buys the _ midterms that it just looks like no one buys the joe _ midterms that it just looks like no one buys the joe biden _ midterms that itjust looks like noj one buys the joe biden argument, which _ one buys the joe biden argument, which is _ one buys the joe biden argument, which is the — one buys the joe biden argument, which is the normal— one buys the joe biden argument, which is the normaljoe _ one buys the joe biden argument, which is the normaljoe is - one buys the joe biden argument, which is the normaljoe is enoughl one buys the joe biden argument, l which is the normaljoe is enough to eat the _ which is the normaljoe is enough to eat the abnormal— which is the normaljoe is enough to eat the abnormal donald _ which is the normaljoe is enough to eat the abnormal donald trump. - which is the normaljoe is enough to eat the abnormal donald trump. it i eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked _ eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last— eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last time, _ eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last time, he _ eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last time, he won - eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last time, he won by- eat the abnormal donald trump. it worked last time, he won by 7- worked last time, he won by 7 million — worked last time, he won by 7 million extra _ worked last time, he won by 7 million extra votes. _ worked last time, he won by 7 million extra votes. there is l worked last time, he won by 7| million extra votes. there is an argument — million extra votes. there is an argument he _ million extra votes. there is an argument he can— million extra votes. there is an argument he can still— million extra votes. there is an argument he can still have - million extra votes. there is an argument he can still have this| argument he can still have this coalition— argument he can still have this coalition going. _ argument he can still have this coalition going. if _ argument he can still have this coalition going. if democrats l argument he can still have this. coalition going. if democrats are not any— coalition going. if democrats are not any less— coalition going. if democrats are not any less scared _ coalition going. if democrats are not any less scared of _ coalition going. if democrats are not any less scared of trump. i coalition going. if democrats are - not any less scared of trump. trump has internal— not any less scared of trump. trump has internal opposition, _ not any less scared of trump. trump has internal opposition, santos, - not any less scared of trump. trump has internal opposition, santos, the| has internal opposition, santos, the floor of— has internal opposition, santos, the floor of the — has internal opposition, santos, the floor of the government _ has internal opposition, santos, the floor of the government does - has internal opposition, santos, the floor of the government does look l floor of the government does look like he _ floor of the government does look like he wants— floor of the government does look like he wants to _ floor of the government does look like he wants to run _ floor of the government does look like he wants to run and _ floor of the government does look like he wants to run and is - like he wants to run and is positioning _ like he wants to run and is positioning himself- like he wants to run and is positioning himself as - like he wants to run and is i positioning himself as angry like he wants to run and is - positioning himself as angry and a cultural— positioning himself as angry and a cultural warrior— positioning himself as angry and a cultural warrior as _ positioning himself as angry and a cultural warrior asjuan _ positioning himself as angry and a cultural warrior asjuan —— - positioning himself as angry and a cultural warrior asjuan —— be - cultural warrior as juan —— be elorida — cultural warrior asjuan —— be florida governor. _ cultural warrior asjuan —— be florida governor. without- cultural warrior asjuan —— be| florida governor. without the possible _ florida governor. without the possible indictments. - florida governor. without the possible indictments. —— - florida governor. without the i possible indictments. —— cultural warrior— possible indictments. —— cultural warrior as — possible indictments. —— cultural warrior as trump. _ possible indictments. —— cultural warrior as trump. he _ possible indictments. -- cultural warrior as trump.— possible indictments. -- cultural warrior as trump. he won't find the business of — warrior as trump. he won't find the business of government _ warrior as trump. he won't find the business of government too - warrior as trump. he won't find the | business of government too difficult to do and how to focus on the boring stuff. :, :, �* , : to do and how to focus on the boring stuff. :, :, �*, : stuff. no, that's right. but trump's acol es stuff. no, that's right. but trump's acolytes still _ stuff. no, that's right. but trump's acolytes still are _ stuff. no, that's right. but trump's acolytes still are dominant. - stuff. no, that's right. but trump's acolytes still are dominant. and . stuff. no, that's right. but trump'sl acolytes still are dominant. and you can't get _ acolytes still are dominant. and you can't get very— acolytes still are dominant. and you can't get very many— acolytes still are dominant. and you can't get very many republicans - acolytes still are dominant. and you can't get very many republicans toi can't get very many republicans to say anything — can't get very many republicans to say anything bad _ can't get very many republicans to say anything bad about _ can't get very many republicans to say anything bad about him, - can't get very many republicans to say anything bad about him, evenl can't get very many republicans to. say anything bad about him, even in the wake _ say anything bad about him, even in the wake of— say anything bad about him, even in the wake of all— say anything bad about him, even in the wake of all the _ say anything bad about him, even in the wake of all the january- say anything bad about him, even in the wake of all the january six - the wake of all the january six hearings. _ the wake of all the january six hearings, where _ the wake of all the january six hearings, where it— the wake of all the january six hearings, where it is- the wake of all the january six hearings, where it is clear- the wake of all the january sixl hearings, where it is clear that the wake of all the january six - hearings, where it is clear that he had been — hearings, where it is clear that he had been planned _ hearings, where it is clear that he had been planned to _ hearings, where it is clear that he had been planned to denounce i hearings, where it is clear that hei had been planned to denounce the election— had been planned to denounce the election months— had been planned to denounce the election months in— had been planned to denounce the election months in advance - had been planned to denounce the election months in advance and i
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had been planned to denounce the . election months in advance and then did everything — election months in advance and then did everything he _ election months in advance and then did everything he could _ election months in advance and then did everything he could to— election months in advance and then did everything he could to keep - did everything he could to keep himself— did everything he could to keep himself in— did everything he could to keep himself in power. _ did everything he could to keep himself in power.— did everything he could to keep himself in power. maybe we weren't all lookini himself in power. maybe we weren't all looking but _ himself in power. maybe we weren't all looking but he _ himself in power. maybe we weren't all looking but he denounced - himself in power. maybe we weren't all looking but he denounced the - all looking but he denounced the 2016 election, as well. this has been a line he has pursued for years and you could argue usefully but perhaps we didn't pay as much attention to it when we thought it was flimflam. actually, perhaps it was flimflam. actually, perhaps it was a strategy. was flimflam. actually, perhaps it was a strategy-— was flimflam. actually, perhaps it was a strategy. yes, he was laying down a possible _ was a strategy. yes, he was laying down a possible escape _ was a strategy. yes, he was laying down a possible escape route. - was a strategy. yes, he was laying down a possible escape route. it i was a strategy. yes, he was layingj down a possible escape route. it is a lot easier— down a possible escape route. it is a lot easier to _ down a possible escape route. it is a lot easier to use _ down a possible escape route. it is a lot easier to use the _ down a possible escape route. it is a lot easier to use the government to keep _ a lot easier to use the government to keep yourself— a lot easier to use the government to keep yourself in _ a lot easier to use the government to keep yourself in power- a lot easier to use the government to keep yourself in power than - a lot easier to use the government i to keep yourself in power than when you are _ to keep yourself in power than when you are the — to keep yourself in power than when you are the candidate. _ to keep yourself in power than when you are the candidate. i— to keep yourself in power than when you are the candidate. i can't - to keep yourself in power than when you are the candidate. i can't see i you are the candidate. i can't see how any— you are the candidate. i can't see how any republican _ you are the candidate. i can't see how any republican can - you are the candidate. i can't see how any republican can support. how any republican can support donald — how any republican can support donald trump. _ how any republican can support donald trump, honestly. - how any republican can support donald trump, honestly. i- how any republican can support donald trump, honestly. i think how any republican can support. donald trump, honestly. i think he is treasonous. _ donald trump, honestly. i think he is treasonous, seditious, _ donald trump, honestly. i think he l is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has _ is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has shown— is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has shown himself— is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has shown himself to _ is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has shown himself to be - is treasonous, seditious, dangerous, he has shown himself to be totally. he has shown himself to be totally beyond _ he has shown himself to be totally beyond the — he has shown himself to be totally beyond the pale. _ he has shown himself to be totally beyond the pale. nevertheless, i he has shown himself to be totally| beyond the pale. nevertheless, he was right. — beyond the pale. nevertheless, he was right. "i— beyond the pale. nevertheless, he was right, "i could _ beyond the pale. nevertheless, he was right, "i could shoot _ beyond the pale. nevertheless, he was right, "i could shoot someone| beyond the pale. nevertheless, he i was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave _ was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave and — was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave and they _ was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave and they would _ was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave and they would still - was right, "i could shoot someone on fifth ave and they would still vote - fifth ave and they would still vote for me". — fifth ave and they would still vote for me". that— fifth ave and they would still vote for me". that is— fifth ave and they would still vote for me". that is a _ fifth ave and they would still vote for me". that is a continual- fifth ave and they would still vote i for me". that is a continual problem that is— for me". that is a continual problem that is going — for me". that is a continual problem that is going to— for me". that is a continual problem that is going to give _ for me". that is a continual problem that is going to give him _ for me". that is a continual problem that is going to give him an - that is going to give him an advantage. _ that is going to give him an advantage. i— that is going to give him an advantage, i have - that is going to give him an advantage, i have to- that is going to give him an advantage, i have to give . that is going to give him an . advantage, i have to give him that is going to give him an - advantage, i have to give him the pole position _
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advantage, i have to give him the pole position for— advantage, i have to give him the pole position for the _ advantage, i have to give him the pole position for the republican l pole position for the republican nomination. _ pole position for the republican nomination. in— pole position for the republican nomination.— pole position for the republican nomination. : : : , nomination. in those circumstances, what is slightly _ nomination. in those circumstances, what is slightly surprising, _ nomination. in those circumstances, what is slightly surprising, abc- what is slightly surprising, abc news washington, another poll suggested only 35% of democrats and democrat leaning independents want biden to run for a second term. odd to think that this is the man who defeated donald trump, which is what they said they wanted, but they just don't think he can do another term, whether it is because they don't think you can defeat trump again or they wonder what he is up to the job at all. i they wonder what he is up to the “ob at all. .. . they wonder what he is up to the “ob at all. ~' , :, at all. i think it is the latter rather than _ at all. i think it is the latter rather than the _ at all. i think it is the latter rather than the former. - at all. i think it is the latter rather than the former. to | at all. i think it is the latter i rather than the former. to the surprise — rather than the former. to the surprise of— rather than the former. to the surprise of many people, biden has... — surprise of many people, biden has... he — surprise of many people, biden has... he will leave the white house with a _ has... he will leave the white house with a much— has... he will leave the white house with a much more transformational legacy— with a much more transformational legacy than obama, because he has the legislation he has approved this summer— the legislation he has approved this summer on climate change, on gun control. _ summer on climate change, on gun control. on— summer on climate change, on gun control, on child poverty, infrastructure building and so on. this is— infrastructure building and so on. this is actually what any democrat voter _ this is actually what any democrat voter would want and support. they would _ voter would want and support. they would be _ voter would want and support. they would be also be energised by the whole _ would be also be energised by the whole debates around abortion, because — whole debates around abortion, because democrats have said they are
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--oin because democrats have said they are going to... _ because democrats have said they are going to... they want a federal law that protects abortion rights. and biden— that protects abortion rights. and biden has— that protects abortion rights. and biden has also come across as the person— biden has also come across as the person who — biden has also come across as the person who is defending american democracy and democratic institutions. i understand the doubts— institutions. i understand the doubts of democrat leaning voters and floating voters. but democrats actually _ and floating voters. but democrats actually have a lot to be happy about — actually have a lot to be happy about with biden. and there was no one else _ about with biden. and there was no one else on — about with biden. and there was no one else on the horizon who can claim _ one else on the horizon who can claim and — one else on the horizon who can claim and say, "well, here i am, i'm going— claim and say, "well, here i am, i'm going to— claim and say, "well, here i am, i'm going to do— claim and say, "well, here i am, i'm going to do this", whereas biden, i have _ going to do this", whereas biden, i have already done this and if i'm elected — have already done this and if i'm elected another four years, i will achieve — elected another four years, i will achieve more, iwill try elected another four years, i will achieve more, i will try to have an even _ achieve more, i will try to have an even more — achieve more, i will try to have an even more democratic legacy. a bit of a surprise — even more democratic legacy. a bit of a surprise but i think the concern _ of a surprise but i think the concern is _ of a surprise but i think the concern is mostly about his age and mostly— concern is mostly about his age and mostly about his health.— mostly about his health. steve, it is paradoxical. — mostly about his health. steve, it is paradoxical, isn't _ mostly about his health. steve, it is paradoxical, isn't it? _ mostly about his health. steve, it is paradoxical, isn't it? we - mostly about his health. steve, it is paradoxical, isn't it? we are i is paradoxical, isn't it? we are talking about people's health and age at a time when, on average, people live longer, settling in wealthy western countries and they have done and where health care
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allows them to maintain a good quality of life. america has had ageing presidents, it had at ronald reagan, who famously and now trump in his mid—70s and biden in his late 70s. is it an obsession of the media or does it cut through to the public? or does it cut through to the -ublic? . :. or does it cut through to the -ublic? , :, ., or does it cut through to the -ublic? , :, :, , public? there is ageing and there is aiiein. i public? there is ageing and there is ageing- lwili— public? there is ageing and there is ageing. i will make _ public? there is ageing and there is ageing. i will make a _ public? there is ageing and there is ageing. i will make a prediction - ageing. i will make a prediction here which will probably be put wrong but i would be surprised to be next presidential election is biden versus trump and age will be an issue. certainly with biden. that is my guess. on the eve of the mid—term and if there were no midterm elections, a president can't hint he's going to go because he or she, he's going to go because he or she, he is usually is. it always is! $5 he is usually is. it always is! as it has been so far. because - he is usually is. it always is! as it has been so far. because you become a _ it has been so far. because you become a lame _ it has been so far. because you become a lame duck— it has been so far. because you become a lame duck and - it has been so far. because youj become a lame duck and power it has been so far. because you - become a lame duck and power seats away. we have already got the indication of power with the midterms, if the republicans win, talk about the constraints of power, he will really feel it. if you have hinted you won't be there, the power seats away. you can't even hint that
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might happen. i suspect age is a factor and health, to contemplate anotherfour factor and health, to contemplate another four years in two years' time. trump, it is very hard for these former politicians to pull off a trick again. you are much more in touch with the solidity of your support. it i doubt whether he will be able to pull it off again. fascinating to see whether he takes up fascinating to see whether he takes up the challenge that has been set down to him by the january six committee and uses that as an opportunity to showboat. if he does, fascinating- — opportunity to showboat. if he does, fascinating- lt _ opportunity to showboat. if he does, fascinating. it will _ opportunity to showboat. if he does, fascinating. it will be _ opportunity to showboat. if he does, fascinating. it will be fascinating - fascinating. it will be fascinating and tricky and not necessarily one that will work for him. b5 and tricky and not necessarily one that will work for him.— that will work for him. as viewers of all of this. _ that will work for him. as viewers of all of this, we _ that will work for him. as viewers of all of this, we will— that will work for him. as viewers of all of this, we will wait - that will work for him. as viewers of all of this, we will wait and - of all of this, we will wait and see, thanks for now. let's talk about another leader apparently not facing constraints but perhaps there are some constraints. we had these protests in china at the end of the week, which were to do, eunice, with people putting up and is effectively
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saying we don't want to be down flu, we don't want the restrictions and some said we want freedom to speak out and all the rest of it —— we don't want the lockdowns. what you make of this as president she prepares to face the congress in which most people think it would be a foregone conclusion that he would be given a third term. == a foregone conclusion that he would be given a third term.— be given a third term. -- president xi. a be given a third term. -- president xi- a third — be given a third term. -- president xi. a third term _ be given a third term. -- president xi. a third term would _ be given a third term. -- president xi. a third term would be - xi. a third term would be unprecedented because normally they lose the _ unprecedented because normally they lose the chairmanship of the communist party after two terms. it would _ communist party after two terms. it would be _ communist party after two terms. it would be unprecedented to get the third term. i don't think the third term. idon't think the descent— third term. i don't think the descent is interesting but it has been _ descent is interesting but it has been happening and you hear occasionally about protests. in different — occasionally about protests. in different parts of china and particularly in beijing. and then immediately there is a suppression of those _ immediately there is a suppression of those protests are nothing comes out of— of those protests are nothing comes out of it. _ of those protests are nothing comes out of it. he — of those protests are nothing comes out of it. he has been able to consolidate his power. i think the problem — consolidate his power. i think the problem is — consolidate his power. i think the problem is not so much the people
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protesting, because the chinese state _ protesting, because the chinese state has — protesting, because the chinese state has developed a very sophisticated ways of monitoring and suppressing dissent in china. what it will— suppressing dissent in china. what it will be _ suppressing dissent in china. what it will be is— suppressing dissent in china. what it will be is what will be to dissent _ it will be is what will be to dissent within the chinese communist party? _ dissent within the chinese communist party? by— dissent within the chinese communist party? by now, he should have had cultivated _ party? by now, he should have had cultivated a — party? by now, he should have had cultivated a successor. he should have _ cultivated a successor. he should have doubted that a whole coterie of perhaps _ have doubted that a whole coterie of perhaps younger party leaders would take china _ perhaps younger party leaders would take china for the next ten years or so -- _ take china for the next ten years or so -- he _ take china for the next ten years or so —— he should have... he is essentially— so —— he should have... he is essentially preparing for a third, unprecedented term sharing the communist party. and we know what happens _ communist party. and we know what happens when authoritarian leaders overstay _ happens when authoritarian leaders overstay their welcome in power. there _ overstay their welcome in power. there is— overstay their welcome in power. there is this perception that authoritarian leaders, and it is a very— authoritarian leaders, and it is a very wrong _ authoritarian leaders, and it is a very wrong perception, their rule is more _ very wrong perception, their rule is more stable — very wrong perception, their rule is more stable than democratic. it is full. aristotle had already noticed that. _ full. aristotle had already noticed that, thousands of years ago. —— it is totally— that, thousands of years ago. —— it is totally false. tyrannies are very unstable — is totally false. tyrannies are very
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unstable and even more unstable than democracy. _ unstable and even more unstable than democracy, which, at the time he was writing. _ democracy, which, at the time he was writing. was— democracy, which, at the time he was writing, was proper democracy, not the democracy we have now. what is going _ the democracy we have now. what is going to _ the democracy we have now. what is going to happen is he has perhaps collected — going to happen is he has perhaps collected a big line—up of opponents, of people who essentially want to _ opponents, of people who essentially want to replace him. the fact that he suppresses dissent as he is surrounded by yes—men and yes women. he will— surrounded by yes—men and yes women. he will make _ surrounded by yes—men and yes women. he will make mistakes. the economic situation _ he will make mistakes. the economic situation is _ he will make mistakes. the economic situation is deteriorating and in those _ situation is deteriorating and in those circumstances authoritarian leaders _ those circumstances authoritarian leaders are very often lose control and everything essentially collapses around _ and everything essentially collapses around them. i think we are still in around them. i think we are still in a long _ around them. i think we are still in a long way. — around them. i think we are still in a long way. xi jinping won't go quietly. — a long way. xi jinping won't go quietly. there will be quite a lot of trouble — quietly. there will be quite a lot of trouble for he leaves. the economist — of trouble for he leaves. the economist magazine, - of trouble for he leaves. ti9 economist magazine, steve, was picking up on the point eunice was making in terms of the covid policy, saying this was a policy imposed but because the political culture is
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that whatever president xi is the truth, revealed truth, not even contestable, the policy hasn't adapted at all in the last couple of years. it has frozen. and that is where the strains begin. most people can adapt policy to events and circumstances. sometimes they have to, as liz truss has discovered. but if you make it absolutely unchanging, at some point something has to give. bud unchanging, at some point something has to iive. : :, ., has to give. and in a way that undermines _ has to give. and in a way that undermines the _ has to give. and in a way that undermines the effect - has to give. and in a way that undermines the effect growth has to give. and in a way that - undermines the effect growth that was so potent in china before. just make the economic growth. i have no idea what fate he will have in the coming months. fora idea what fate he will have in the coming months. for a commentator in the uk to comment on the instability of his leadership, we might be getting referred by minister in about four weeks, suggests it may be, for very sinister reasons, he looks more secure than some of the british prime minister —— might be getting a fourth prime minister. if you impose a policy like covid on a
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country without any capacity to adapt and revise and to changing circumstance, that is unsustainable over a period of time. and you will get dissent, perhaps, at this twice a decade gathering. but i don't know whether... is the dissent normally at these conventions? i don't know. they are certainly not visible to broadcast versions of it. quick last thought, jeff, on china.— thought, jeff, on china. problems are mounting _ thought, jeff, on china. problems are mounting up. _ thought, jeff, on china. problems are mounting up. the _ thought, jeff, on china. problems are mounting up. the fight - thought, jeff, on china. problems are mounting up. the fight with l thought, jeff, on china. problems i are mounting up. the fight with the americans— are mounting up. the fight with the americans is— are mounting up. the fight with the americans is heating _ are mounting up. the fight with the americans is heating up. _ are mounting up. the fight with the americans is heating up. i- are mounting up. the fight with the americans is heating up. i mean, . are mounting up. the fight with the| americans is heating up. i mean, we have _ americans is heating up. i mean, we have the... — americans is heating up. i mean, we have the... whether— americans is heating up. i mean, we have the... whether they _ americans is heating up. i mean, we have the... whether they met - americans is heating up. i mean, we have the... whether they met the i americans is heating up. i mean, we| have the... whether they met the —— made _ have the... whether they met the —— made the _ have the... whether they met the —— made the right— have the... whether they met the —— made the right bet— have the... whether they met the —— made the right bet on— have the... whether they met the —— made the right bet on russia, - made the right bet on russia, americans— made the right bet on russia, americans are _ made the right bet on russia, americans are taking - made the right bet on russia, americans are taking quite . made the right bet on russia, - americans are taking quite seriously cutting _ americans are taking quite seriously cutting them — americans are taking quite seriously cutting them off— americans are taking quite seriously cutting them off from _ americans are taking quite seriously cutting them off from the _ cutting them off from the semiconductor— cutting them off from the semiconductor world, - cutting them off from the . semiconductor world, which cutting them off from the - semiconductor world, which they cutting them off from the _ semiconductor world, which they need to do their— semiconductor world, which they need to do their most — semiconductor world, which they need to do their most advanced _ semiconductor world, which they need to do their most advanced military - to do their most advanced military equipment— to do their most advanced military equipment and _ to do their most advanced military equipment and to _ to do their most advanced military equipment and to stay _ to do their most advanced military equipment and to stay involved i to do their most advanced military equipment and to stay involved in| equipment and to stay involved in the world — equipment and to stay involved in the world economy _ equipment and to stay involved in the world economy to _ equipment and to stay involved in the world economy to the - equipment and to stay involved in the world economy to the extentl equipment and to stay involved in - the world economy to the extent that they are. _ the world economy to the extent that
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they are. this — the world economy to the extent that they are. this is _ the world economy to the extent that they are. this is a _ the world economy to the extent that they are. this is a much _ the world economy to the extent that they are. this is a much more - the world economy to the extent that they are. this is a much more severej they are. this is a much more severe sanction— they are. this is a much more severe sanction than — they are. this is a much more severe sanction than the _ they are. this is a much more severe sanction than the trade _ they are. this is a much more severe sanction than the trade was - they are. this is a much more severe sanction than the trade was the - sanction than the trade was the donald — sanction than the trade was the donald trump _ sanction than the trade was the donald trump introduced. - sanction than the trade was the donald trump introduced. thisl sanction than the trade was the. donald trump introduced. this is going _ donald trump introduced. this is going to — donald trump introduced. this is going to be — donald trump introduced. this is going to be very— donald trump introduced. this is going to be very significant - donald trump introduced. this is going to be very significant and l going to be very significant and will affect— going to be very significant and will affect their— going to be very significant and will affect their entire - going to be very significant and will affect their entire supply. will affect their entire supply chain— will affect their entire supply chain in— will affect their entire supply chain in the _ will affect their entire supply chain in the information - will affect their entire supply- chain in the information technology industries — chain in the information technology industries. the _ chain in the information technology industries. the americans - chain in the information technology industries. the americans are - chain in the information technologyl industries. the americans are going to do— industries. the americans are going to do it. _ industries. the americans are going to do it. that — industries. the americans are going to do it. that is _ industries. the americans are going to do it. that is actually— industries. the americans are going to do it. that is actually serious. - to do it. that is actually serious. jeff. _ to do it. that is actually serious. jeff. eunice _ to do it. that is actually serious. jeff, eunice and _ to do it. that is actually serious. jeff, eunice and steve, - to do it. that is actually serious. jeff, eunice and steve, thanks. i to do it. that is actually serious. | jeff, eunice and steve, thanks. a word from michael, he was recording a programme in lviv, ukraine, he fell and fractured his femur and was driven to poland after treatment and then put up on twitter a photograph of the sun setting. he said someone i don't know tweets to invite me to krakow for 15 minutes later. she watches me on dateline. the lady can send help to get him further medical treatment. dateline is seriously good for your health! that's it from all of us, and farewell to dateline: london after 25 years. nick guthrie, our editor to this day, developed the format alongside its first presenter, charles wheeler. from all the
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—— to all of you from all of us goodbye. good evening. friday brought us a mix of weather types — we had some clear blue sky and some sunshine, but also plenty of showers around, too. that was the recipe for lots of rainbows. here was the scene in roybridge, highland as we ended the day. as we move through the course of the weekend, things are turning fairly unsettled, so it's often going to be quite breezy through the weekend. yes, some rain around at times, but certainly not a wash—out — some drier, brighter weather, particularly by the time we get to sunday. for the here and now, we are between weather fronts. first batch of showers moving away towards the east, so, clear spells for many, particularly through the first half of tonight — that's where temperatures will fall lowest. could be a touch of
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frost in the north, but later in the night, the winds pick up ahead of this rash of showers rattling in from the west to start your saturday morning. so, plenty of quite heavy downpours, some thunderstorms possible for parts of scotland, northern england, into wales first thing, as well. that area of showery rain edging eastwards, some showers for east anglia and the southeast. once they clear away, a drier spell of weather for many, but from the west, the winds pick up once again during the afternoon and there'll be more showers arriving across parts of northern ireland, northwest scotland and parts of england and wales, as well. we could see gusts of wind around about 30 to close to a0 mph towards exposed coasts and hills in the west, and temperatures will be somewhere between about ten in lerwick to around 17 down towards norwich and london. now, moving through saturday night into sunday, low pressure's still with us, still unsettled spell of weather. that low pressure's sitting to the north and really tight isobars you can see there, so that means a windy spell of weather first thing sunday morning with more showers coming in, particularly for the northern and western scotland. they ease away, the winds fall a little lighter through the day, so plenty of dry
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weather with some sunshine on offer for sunday. later in the day, gales developing once again out towards the southwest ahead of this area of rain, but it'll arrive late in the afternoon and on into the evening. but for much of the day, fair amount of dry weather and it's going to feel reasonably pleasant, around 10—18 our top temperatures north to south. that area of low pressure approaching from the southwest, could be some heavy showers ahead of it, too. that's going to sweep its way gradually eastwards and northwards across the uk, so a spell of wet weather as we head through into monday. monday itself, we're likely to still see some blustery showers in the far northwest, perhaps a bit more cloud and the odd spot of light rain in the southeast, too, but most areas looking generally dry and bright with some sunshine. highs around about 12—18 degrees and that settled weather continues into tuesday, too. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news. i'm geeta guru murthy at downing street. saying goodbye afterjust 38 days. kwasi kwarteng becomes britain's second shortest—serving chancellor — after being sacked by the prime minister. liz truss announces another major u—turn on her economic plans — a rise in corporation tax will now go ahead. but it is clear that parts of our mini budget went further and faster than markets were expecting, so the way we are delivering our mission right now has to change. we need to act now to reassure the markets of our fiscal discipline. former health secretary and leadership candidate, jeremy hunt, is now tasked
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