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renewed flood warnings have been issued for large parts of the australian state of victoria after days of heavy rain. the country's prime minister antony albanese has said extra help is on the way. and private screenings of a film starring british and pakistani stars are being auctioned to raise funds forflood victims in pakistan. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sebastian payne, whitehall editor for the financial times, and martin lipton, chief sports reporter at the sun. a very good evening to you,
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gentlemen. quick look at the front pages. we will start with the mail. it leads on speculation mps will move to topple liz truss this week. meanwhile, the metro details three separate plots to oust her. the mirror is rather more blunt, saying tory mps want truss to just "quit now". the independent says senior tory figures are telling her "the game is up". the guardian echoes this sentiment but suggests truss will try to fight on. it might be too late, though — the times suggests the party is looking to "crown" a new leader already. the express, meanwhile, focuses on the economic backdrop to all this, asking if her latest u—turn will be enough to turn things around. and there we go, that's the times,
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we have caught up. and amid all this, a plea for unity by former leadership rival penny mordaunt on the front of the telegraph. let us begin our chat, sebastian and merchant. lovely to have you both with us again. sebastian, it is your round, this one. we are going to start off with e—mail, the lot to topple truss this week. this week? we are getting a firm feel of days according to the papers.— we are getting a firm feel of days according to the papers. indeed, it does for like _ according to the papers. indeed, it does for like events _ according to the papers. indeed, it does for like events are _ according to the papers. indeed, it does for like events are speeding i according to the papers. indeed, it i does for like events are speeding up at westminster, and this weekend has actually hardened feelings. number one, three mps have gone their constituents, they have heard from their voters but also their local associations, whojust their voters but also their local associations, who just say, their voters but also their local associations, whojust say, we their voters but also their local associations, who just say, we are fed up, we have had enough. the government have sustained enough damage already, as is the tory party positive reputation for academic competence. therefore this trust needs to go. the second thing, it was alluded to in the mail as well,
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the markets opening on monday. because liz truss made that bold move on friday of sacking kwasi kwarteng bringing injeremy hunt, who has gone on to scrap most of her economic platform, but there is a general sense and might not be enough, that the markets want the whole mini budget gone to have any sense of physical credibility within the uk any accommodation of those two things have me tory and peas very, very nervous, as you see very, very nervous, as you see across many very, very nervous, as you see across many of the papers tomorrow. there is a very strong feeling that liz truss is finished as prime minister, that even if she gets through the turbulence this week, what is she going to do? what possible budget for chi do, in the sense thatjeremy hunt is the real prime minister? but there is no real clarity on how she will be get rid of, who might do it and who might replace her. martin, with all the — and who might replace her. martin, with all the speculation _ and who might replace her. martin, with all the speculation going - and who might replace her. martin, with all the speculation going on, i with all the speculation going on, many people are almost resigned, as sebastian was saying, can we get on
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with it? these headlines are not helping, are they?— with it? these headlines are not helping, are they? know, let's be honest, helping, are they? know, let's be honest. they _ helping, are they? know, let's be honest, they are _ helping, are they? know, let's be honest, they are universally - honest, they are universally damning, brutal, and he sort of headlines— damning, brutal, and he sort of headlines that if you are predisposed to thinking you might survive. _ predisposed to thinking you might survive, would probably change her mind _ survive, would probably change her mind~ i_ survive, would probably change her mind i do — survive, would probably change her mind. i do not think we have seen anything _ mind. i do not think we have seen anything quite like it, in terms of anything quite like it, in terms of a uniformity of position from the newspapers across the entire political _ newspapers across the entire political spectrum, and that is what makes _ political spectrum, and that is what makes it_ political spectrum, and that is what makes it so— political spectrum, and that is what makes it so difficult for truss, thai— makes it so difficult for truss, that you — makes it so difficult for truss, that you no longer has any standing, it appears _ that you no longer has any standing, it appears i— that you no longer has any standing, it appears. i thought the interesting thing in the telegraph one, which is penny mordaunt saying, -et one, which is penny mordaunt saying, get behind _ one, which is penny mordaunt saying, get behind her. the snakes might say that if— get behind her. the snakes might say that if you _ get behind her. the snakes might say that if you wanted to be considered the likely— that if you wanted to be considered the likely replacement, the best thing _ the likely replacement, the best thing is — the likely replacement, the best thing is appear to be supported dummett supportive and to be a unifier— dummett supportive and to be a unifier -- — dummett supportive and to be a unifier —— the cynics might say... if unifier —— the cynics might say... if there _ unifier —— the cynics might say... if there is — unifier —— the cynics might say... if there is the _ unifier —— the cynics might say... if there is the hunt for a supported unifier_ if there is the hunt for a supported unifier in _ if there is the hunt for a supported unifier in weeks' time! that
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if there is the hunt for a supported unifier in weeks' time!— unifier in weeks' time! that is certainly what _ unifier in weeks' time! that is certainly what jeremy - unifier in weeks' time! that is certainly what jeremy hunt i unifier in weeks' time! that is i certainly what jeremy hunt was certainly whatjeremy hunt was saying. she is there, she is the person in charge. sebastian, i'm going to come to you, as we turn to the front page of the times. what did you make a president biden�*s comment? it did you make a president biden's comment? , , ., ., did you make a president biden's comment?— did you make a president biden's comment? , , ., ., ., ., comment? it is very rare to have a us president _ comment? it is very rare to have a us president intervening _ comment? it is very rare to have a us president intervening on - comment? it is very rare to have a us president intervening on uk - us president intervening on uk domestic matters. i cannot sense of it, probably since barack obama and the brexit referendum, when he famously said that if the uk left the you, it would be at the back of the you, it would be at the back of the queue for a us trade deal, which are actually because turned out to be quite correct, the presidentjoe biden has made it clear... there is a tweet president put outjust as the prime minister arrived in new york for the recent meeting of the un general assembly, and i think when you look at this comment here, he was asked by reporters on the campaign trail, what do you think of the u—turn? he said, i always thought it was a bad idea and i am not surprised she has had to u—turn, but again, if you look at how that
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plays into the debate here, those who are prone liz truss will say, this is us president, nothing to do with us, why has he got involved in our politics? the other side of the spectrum says, this confirms it was a really bad idea, we should not of done this can we even have the us president telling us we are wrong. it does not shift the debate in westminster but it is a significant moment. ~., , westminster but it is a significant moment. a, , ., moment. martin, still in the front ofthe moment. martin, still in the front of the times- _ moment. martin, still in the front of the times. obviously _ moment. martin, still in the front of the times. obviously the - moment. martin, still in the front of the times. obviously the 31st i moment. martin, still in the front| of the times. obviously the 31st is when the key dates we will all be waiting for, but monday evening, the papers say that liz truss will be meeting with her cabinet to discuss economic strategy.— meeting with her cabinet to discuss economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet _ economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet early _ economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet early in _ economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet early in the - economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet early in the day - economic strategy. yeah, a meeting with her cabinet early in the day in l with her cabinet early in the day in the new— with her cabinet early in the day in the new meeting with the one nation group, centrist tory mps, to try to shore — group, centrist tory mps, to try to shore up _ group, centrist tory mps, to try to shore up support. this shows again the depth _ shore up support. this shows again the depth of the chaos she is in that she — the depth of the chaos she is in that she is _ the depth of the chaos she is in that she is having to try to actually _ that she is having to try to actually find support from people who are — actually find support from people who are probably not within the party, _ who are probably not within the party, at — who are probably not within the party, at least, her actual allies, because —
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party, at least, her actual allies, because one nation tories were not given— because one nation tories were not given a _ because one nation tories were not given a place in the government. it was a _ given a place in the government. it was a government of true believers and she _ was a government of true believers and she just dumped the true believers overboard as well stop it is remarkable how quickly has unraveled, and the fact that we are reading and hearing talk of an eminent— reading and hearing talk of an eminent demise of the prime minister who has— eminent demise of the prime minister who has barely done 40 days in office — who has barely done 40 days in office. there is a lot of interest, sebastian — office. there is a lot of interest, sebastian talked about, about where the sterling dollar rate goes overnight, with the markets do, but what is _ overnight, with the markets do, but what is hurting truss is her political— what is hurting truss is her political credibility appear shot to bits. political credibility appear shot to bits and — political credibility appear shot to bits. and that's the reality. the polls— bits. and that's the reality. the polls are — bits. and that's the reality. the polls are beyond horrific for the conservative party. we are talking about _ conservative party. we are talking about wipe—out territory. not just 1997. _ about wipe—out territory. not just 1997, potentially, but farworse than— 1997, potentially, but farworse than that — 1997, potentially, but farworse than that. and in those circumstances, tory mps think, what is going _ circumstances, tory mps think, what is going to _ circumstances, tory mps think, what is going to keep me in myjob? not
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her. is going to keep me in my “ob? not her. . ~ is going to keep me in my “ob? not her. ., ~' ., is going to keep me in my “ob? not her. . ,, . , , her. talking about credibility, sebastian. — her. talking about credibility, sebastian, you _ her. talking about credibility, sebastian, you are _ her. talking about credibility, sebastian, you are going - her. talking about credibility, sebastian, you are going to i her. talking about credibility, i sebastian, you are going to take her. talking about credibility, - sebastian, you are going to take us through your paper and your colleague has written an opinion piece. basically saying restoring the nation's credibility is going be hard forjeremy hunt stop you look hugely, and i think the point my colleague makes hugely, and i think the point my colleague make— hugely, and i think the point my colleague makes tomorrow is crit ability takes _ colleague makes tomorrow is crit ability takes an _ colleague makes tomorrow is crit ability takes an awful _ colleague makes tomorrow is crit ability takes an awful long - colleague makes tomorrow is crit ability takes an awful long time l colleague makes tomorrow is crit| ability takes an awful long time to build up and a very little amount of time to be completely shot down, and a problem forjeremy hunt is he is in this kind of in between situation, that may tory mps were describing him as the chief executive of this government, but he is not the prime minister, he cannot ackley make the decisions, but at the same time neither can liz truss because she has had no authority as martin was saying. —— cannot actually make the is almost impossible to see what you can do is print and internet. when the markets open is
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what she... we will see if there's competence in this new strategy and maybe jeremy competence in this new strategy and maybejeremy hunt competence in this new strategy and maybe jeremy hunt will do competence in this new strategy and maybejeremy hunt will do it, maybe they will look at the actions he has taken, they will say, he will get on to a firmerfooting, taken, they will say, he will get on to a firmer footing, but i think in the medium—term, this is much bigger problems for the country and for the government, because i don't see what they can really do to store that credibility, it took the tour is not for long time after black wednesday. they did not win an election for 18 years after we crashed out of the european exchange rate mechanism in 1992. these things resting peoples minds, and now whenever they go to the ballot box or to think about voting, they will over memory that time when they deliver the mini budget, or interest rates went soaring and uk became an international laughing stock in terms of its market on the global stage. it is a pretty bad situation for the party to find itself in, and fundamentally it is this general sense we are aiming towards a labour government and the tory will have to
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lick their wounds. i was at the party conferences quite recently and it was almost the inverse of how it normally is. labour was very focused, it was determined about winning, there were a lot of people in smart suits, and the tories, it was a lot of people shouting at each other from what ijust want was a lot of people shouting at each other from what i just want to turn back to the markets very quickly before you move on. haifa back to the markets very quickly before you move on.— back to the markets very quickly before you move on. how have the asian markets _ before you move on. how have the asian markets reflected _ before you move on. how have the asian markets reflected events - before you move on. how have the asian markets reflected events in i asian markets reflected events in the uk? they will be opening very shortly. the uk? they will be opening very shortl . ., . , the uk? they will be opening very shortl. ., ., , �* the uk? they will be opening very shortl . ., . , �* . shortly. normally, you'll get a sense of what _ shortly. normally, you'll get a sense of what is _ shortly. normally, you'll get a sense of what is coming - shortly. normally, you'll get a sense of what is coming in - shortly. normally, you'll get a - sense of what is coming in london overnight. when we had that first mini budget, things started to get very iffy for the trust makes government, we saw those indications about 3am, foura:m., government, we saw those indications about 3am, four a:m., when the pound was getting traded, government debt which fluctuated, it could be tomorrow morning, we have anything of what is to come when the london markets open, and you will have the new york markets opening, lunchtime tomorrow, as welcome so that is what
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is really mattering at the moment to tory mps. it is not about the politics. it is not about the mechanism for getting liz truss, it is, are the markets going to keep giving the uk pounding by making us all poorer and punishing the government situation? or did they look at what happened at the weekend and say, maybe there is some crit ability and we can see where go next? 50 ability and we can see where go next? ~., ., next? so if we turn, martin, to the front page — next? so if we turn, martin, to the front page of _ next? so if we turn, martin, to the front page of the — next? so if we turn, martin, to the front page of the express, - next? so if we turn, martin, to the front page of the express, their . front page of the express, their question is, what is the likelihood more u—turns could save our economy? there is a much larger context to all of this, isn't there?— all of this, isn't there? there is, but ou all of this, isn't there? there is, but you have — all of this, isn't there? there is, but you have to _ all of this, isn't there? there is, but you have to remember- all of this, isn't there? there is, but you have to remember we . all of this, isn't there? there is, l but you have to remember we had various— but you have to remember we had various forecasters suggesting the buckle _ various forecasters suggesting the buckle in— various forecasters suggesting the buckle in the economy by 26, 27, could _ buckle in the economy by 26, 27, could be — buckle in the economy by 26, 27, could be done after that has got to be gotten — could be done after that has got to be gotten from somewhere and that is the challenge now forjeremy hunt. if he the challenge now forjeremy hunt. if he stays — the challenge now forjeremy hunt. if he stays as chancellor till october _ if he stays as chancellor till october 31, which we can probably suspect— october 31, which we can probably suspect he — october 31, which we can probably suspect he will, but we cannot
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assume — suspect he will, but we cannot assume he will. where does he make the economic changes? he has done 18 million. _ the economic changes? he has done 18 million. the _ the economic changes? he has done 18 million, the decision to upgrade corporation tax. other taxes have to be raised _ corporation tax. other taxes have to be raised. spending cuts need to be found _ be raised. spending cuts need to be found but — be raised. spending cuts need to be found. but £60 billion is an enormous amount of money. and when we are _ enormous amount of money. and when we are already stretched, we have -ot we are already stretched, we have got commitments in terms of the energy— got commitments in terms of the energy bills being capped, promises and guarantees about funding for the nhs, talk— and guarantees about funding for the nhs, talk of the manifesto commitment to upgrade benefits in line with _ commitment to upgrade benefits in line with inflation and pensions as well, _ line with inflation and pensions as well, no _ line with inflation and pensions as well, no chancellor has too much of a nrargin— well, no chancellor has too much of a margin for— well, no chancellor has too much of a margin for movement and six ability, — a margin for movement and six ability, and there and i think lives the issue. — ability, and there and i think lives the issue, thatjeremy hunt will either— the issue, thatjeremy hunt will either have to completely destroy
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what the — either have to completely destroy what the government has been preaching for the last two years —— flexibility. — preaching for the last two years —— flexibility, and therein lies the issue — flexibility, and therein lies the issue. and if he does, he may get criticised — issue. and if he does, he may get criticised for— issue. and if he does, he may get criticised for so doing. it is a horrific— criticised for so doing. it is a horrific position for any government to be _ horrific position for any government to be in. _ horrific position for any government to be in, because it is viewed as the architect of its own chaos, even if some _ the architect of its own chaos, even if some would say, come on, there is a global— if some would say, come on, there is a global issue — if some would say, come on, there is a global issue here, in the same way that in— a global issue here, in the same way that in 2007, — a global issue here, in the same way that in 2007, 2008, darling and brown _ that in 2007, 2008, darling and brown caught the flak for what was happening globally as well and they also had _ happening globally as well and they also had to take responsibility. that _ also had to take responsibility. that is— also had to take responsibility. that is how it works. you are the bloke _ that is how it works. you are the bloke holding the reins. you are responsible. bloke holding the reins. you are re5ponsible-_ bloke holding the reins. you are resonsible. ., ., responsible. ok, we will end on that note. responsible. ok, we will end on that note- thank — responsible. ok, we will end on that note. thank you _ responsible. ok, we will end on that note. thank you very _ responsible. ok, we will end on that note. thank you very much - responsible. ok, we will end on that note. thank you very much indeed, i note. thank you very much indeed, sebastian payne of the ft and martin lipton of the sun. a very good evening to you. and i hope you have a cracking week ahead. it is going to be interesting, isn't it? thank you very much. and thank you as well forjoining us on bbc news for the
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papers. do make sure you join in tomorrow. i will not be here. the papers will be back again tomorrow evening with rachel cunliffe and eleanor langford. but from myself and the team, goodbye. hello and a very warm welcome to what is the last ever film review on bbc news. i'mjane hill and with us, of course, for ourfinal fling is mark kermode. hi, mark. hello. we won't end with a whimper, but with a bang — we have halloween ends.
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does it, though?! we have a new version of all quiet on the western front. emily, inspired by the life of emily bronte. that makes me livid. and for the king crimson fans, in the court of the crimson king. yeah, it's quite a striking mix you got for us. it is, so let's start with halloween ends. please, please, please let this be over! so, a few years ago, david gordon green and jamie lee curtis did something interesting with the halloween franchise, they updated halloween with added ptsd — hooray, something interesting! and then they spoilt it all by saying it is a trilogy, so then we had halloween kills, which is just back to the usual stuff, plod, plod, plod, plod, stabby, stabby, plod, plod. now, halloween ends which has a usual plodding stabby stuff, but with some added nietzschen about you look long into the abyss and the abyss looks back into you. and some nonsense about it takes a village to raise a child and maybe
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evil is being passed on. here's a clip!

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