so that is year—on—year. covid—19 had a massive impact. by default, a lot of people who are volunteers are somewhat grey around the gills because that is life's experiences led to that. it's really difficult for the voluntary sector is to bring volunteers back into the voluntary sector is to do more work, so you have a catch 22. you have all of covid, all the worries of the world. you have found that as well. yes. covid, all the worries of the world. you have found that as well. yes, in the voluntary _ you have found that as well. yes, in the voluntary sector _ you have found that as well. yes, in the voluntary sector there _ you have found that as well. yes, in the voluntary sector there is - you have found that as well. yes, in the voluntary sector there is an - the voluntary sector there is an increasing _ the voluntary sector there is an increasing demand for the services on the _ increasing demand for the services on the front line because of a reduction _ on the front line because of a reduction in public spending, but at

a time _ reduction in public spending, but at a time when disposable income is going _ a time when disposable income is going down so charitable donations are going _ going down so charitable donations are going down. they are under the cosh at the minute — they are under the cosh at the minute. probably right now we need them _ minute. probably right now we need them more — minute. probably right now we need them more than ever before because they are _ them more than ever before because they are propping up the nhs. and what effectively is happening is there _ what effectively is happening is there is— what effectively is happening is there is a — what effectively is happening is there is a perfect storm coming for young _ there is a perfect storm coming for young people in this country, who are watching their parents or their grown-ups — are watching their parents or their grown—ups go through real difficult life choices. but they are also at a time _ life choices. but they are also at a time when — life choices. but they are also at a time when the support networks are shrinking _ time when the support networks are shrinking around them so they are becoming — shrinking around them so they are becoming more vulnerable to making the wrong _ becoming more vulnerable to making the wrong choices in life. we becoming more vulnerable to making the wrong choices in life.— the wrong choices in life. we are in a difficult world. _ the wrong choices in life. we are in a difficult world. what _ the wrong choices in life. we are in a difficult world. what are - the wrong choices in life. we are in a difficult world. what are you - a difficult world. what are you doing for people in that difficult world at the moment, shanaz? the issues we are _ world at the moment, shanaz? the issues we are talking about today

are not— issues we are talking about today are not new _ issues we are talking about today are not new i_ issues we are talking about today are not new. i have _ issues we are talking about today are not new. i have been - issues we are talking about today are not new. i have been a - issues we are talking about today i are not new. i have been a practice manager— are not new. i have been a practice manager for— are not new. i have been a practice manager for 15_ are not new. i have been a practice manager for 15 years. _ are not new. i have been a practice manager for 15 years. 50? - are not new. i have been a practice manager for 15 years. 50? 15. - are not new. i have been a practice manager for 15 years.-15.- manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! _ manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! no, _ manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! no, so _ manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! no, so the - manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! no, so the cost - manager for15 years. 50? 15. you are incredible! no, so the cost of| are incredible! no, so the cost of livin: are incredible! no, so the cost of living crisis _ are incredible! no, so the cost of living crisis has _ are incredible! no, so the cost of living crisis has exacerbated - are incredible! no, so the cost of living crisis has exacerbated the l living crisis has exacerbated the issues _ living crisis has exacerbated the issues exponentially. _ living crisis has exacerbated the issues exponentially. we - living crisis has exacerbated the issues exponentially. we saw. living crisis has exacerbated the i issues exponentially. we saw the impact _ issues exponentially. we saw the impact on — issues exponentially. we saw the impact on people's— issues exponentially. we saw the impact on people's physical- issues exponentially. we saw the impact on people's physical and i impact on people's physical and mental— impact on people's physical and mental health, _ impact on people's physical and mental health, then _ impact on people's physical and mental health, then brexit- impact on people's physical and mental health, then brexit hadl impact on people's physical andl mental health, then brexit had a financiai— mental health, then brexit had a financial impact— mental health, then brexit had a financial impact on _ mental health, then brexit had a financial impact on people, - mental health, then brexit had a financial impact on people, then| financial impact on people, then covid _ financial impact on people, then covid came _ financial impact on people, then covid came along, _ financial impact on people, then covid came along, then- financial impact on people, then covid came along, then all- financial impact on people, then covid came along, then all of. financial impact on people, then. covid came along, then all of those things _ covid came along, then all of those things we — covid came along, then all of those things. we could _ covid came along, then all of those things. we could not— covid came along, then all of those things. we could not survive - covid came along, then all of those things. we could not survive as - covid came along, then all of those things. we could not survive as a l covid came along, then all of thosel things. we could not survive as a gp practice _ things. we could not survive as a gp practice without _ things. we could not survive as a gp practice without your— things. we could not survive as a gp practice without your support - things. we could not survive as a gp practice without your support in - things. we could not survive as a gp practice without your support in the i practice without your support in the voluntary— practice without your support in the voluntary organisations. _ practice without your support in the voluntary organisations. so - practice without your support in the voluntary organisations. so covid . voluntary organisations. so covid came _ voluntary organisations. so covid came along — voluntary organisations. so covid came along and _ voluntary organisations. so covid came along and the _ voluntary organisations. so covid came along and the issues - voluntary organisations. so covidl came along and the issues around universai— came along and the issues around universal credit. _ came along and the issues around universal credit. with _ came along and the issues around universal credit. with each - came along and the issues around universal credit. with each of - came along and the issues around i universal credit. with each of those issues _ universal credit. with each of those issues we _ universal credit. with each of those issues we see — universal credit. with each of those issues we see a _ universal credit. with each of those issues we see a corresponding - issues we see a corresponding increase — issues we see a corresponding increase in— issues we see a corresponding increase in demand _ issues we see a corresponding increase in demand in- issues we see a corresponding increase in demand in general| increase in demand in general practice _ increase in demand in general practice 15_ increase in demand in general practice. 15 years _ increase in demand in general practice. 15 years ago - increase in demand in general practice. 15 years ago my - increase in demand in general. practice. 15 years ago my practice was full— practice. 15 years ago my practice was fuii of— practice. 15 years ago my practice was full of people _ practice. 15 years ago my practice was full of people with _ practice. 15 years ago my practice was full of people with a - practice. 15 years ago my practice was full of people with a health . was full of people with a health need. — was full of people with a health need. now— was full of people with a health need, now it's _ was full of people with a health need, now it's full _ was full of people with a health need, now it's full of _ was full of people with a health need, now it's full of people i was full of people with a health i need, now it's full of people with was full of people with a health - need, now it's full of people with a social— need, now it's full of people with a social need — need, now it's full of people with a social need that _ need, now it's full of people with a social need that impacts _ need, now it's full of people with a social need that impacts their - social need that impacts their health— social need that impacts their health and _ social need that impacts their health and we _ social need that impacts their health and we don't _ social need that impacts their health and we don't have - social need that impacts their health and we don't have the | health and we don't have the

corresponding _ health and we don't have the corresponding services - health and we don't have the corresponding services to - health and we don't have the - corresponding services to support them _ corresponding services to support them we — corresponding services to support them we are _ corresponding services to support them. we are looking _ corresponding services to support them. we are looking at- corresponding services to support them. we are looking at those . them. we are looking at those numbers— them. we are looking at those numbers now— them. we are looking at those numbers now so _ them. we are looking at those numbers now so we _ them. we are looking at those numbers now so we are - them. we are looking at thosel numbers now so we are dealing with more _ numbers now so we are dealing with more complexity. _ numbers now so we are dealing with more complexity, more _ numbers now so we are dealing withl more complexity, more bereavement from covid, _ more complexity, more bereavement from covid, dealing _ more complexity, more bereavement from covid, dealing with _ more complexity, more bereavement from covid, dealing with people - from covid, dealing with people across _ from covid, dealing with people across the — from covid, dealing with people across the demographic - from covid, dealing with people across the demographic of - from covid, dealing with people across the demographic of our i across the demographic of our patients— across the demographic of our patients having _ across the demographic of our patients having a _ across the demographic of our patients having a mental- across the demographic of our. patients having a mental health across the demographic of our - patients having a mental health or anxiety— patients having a mental health or anxiety type — patients having a mental health or anxiety type thing _ patients having a mental health or anxiety type thing. so _ patients having a mental health or anxiety type thing. so there - patients having a mental health or anxiety type thing. so there is - patients having a mental health ori anxiety type thing. so there is this issue _ anxiety type thing. so there is this issue about — anxiety type thing. so there is this issue about the _ anxiety type thing. so there is this issue about the preoccupation - anxiety type thing. so there is this issue about the preoccupation of l anxiety type thing. so there is this. issue about the preoccupation of gp appointments _ issue about the preoccupation of gp appointments. but— issue about the preoccupation of gp appointments. but i— issue about the preoccupation of gp appointments. but i don't— issue about the preoccupation of gp appointments. but i don't think- appointments. but i don't think peopie — appointments. but i don't think people understand _ appointments. but i don't think people understand what - appointments. but i don't thinki people understand what general practice — people understand what general practice does— people understand what general practice does behind _ people understand what general practice does behind the - people understand what general| practice does behind the scenes, people understand what general - practice does behind the scenes, and behind _ practice does behind the scenes, and behind the _ practice does behind the scenes, and behind the scenes— practice does behind the scenes, and behind the scenes we _ practice does behind the scenes, and behind the scenes we are _ practice does behind the scenes, and behind the scenes we are supporting | behind the scenes we are supporting our communities. _ behind the scenes we are supporting our communities, addressing - behind the scenes we are supporting our communities, addressing the - behind the scenes we are supporting i our communities, addressing the cost of living _ our communities, addressing the cost of living rises — our communities, addressing the cost of living rises. they— our communities, addressing the cost of living rises. they were _ our communities, addressing the cost of living rises. they were brought- of living rises. they were brought in to— of living rises. they were brought in to heip — of living rises. they were brought in to heip with— of living rises. they were brought in to help with health _ of living rises. they were brought in to help with health need, - of living rises. they were brought in to help with health need, as. of living rises. they were brought in to help with health need, as to raise _ in to help with health need, as to raise about, _ in to help with health need, as to raise about, but _ in to help with health need, as to raise about, but one _ in to help with health need, as to raise about, but one my- in to help with health need, as to l raise about, but one my colleagues spends _ raise about, but one my colleagues spends ali— raise about, but one my colleagues spends all her _ raise about, but one my colleagues spends all her time _ raise about, but one my colleagues spends all her time helping - raise about, but one my colleagues spends all her time helping peoplel spends all her time helping people with housing — spends all her time helping people with housing issues, _ spends all her time helping people with housing issues, julie - spends all her time helping people with housing issues, julie helping. with housing issues, julie helping with housing issues, julie helping with mental— with housing issues, julie helping with mental health _ with housing issues, julie helping with mental health issues. - with mental health issues. incredible. _ with mental health issues. incredible. i— with mental health issues. incredible. ijust _ with mental health issues. incredible. ijust want - with mental health issues. incredible. ijust want to l with mental health issues. i incredible. ijust want to hear incredible. i just want to hear other... very quickly, jessica, governments have to make difficult decisions and tough decisions in the

financial, fiscal context we find ourselves for all sorts of different reasons, and if they do have to trim the nhs budget, is there anything left to trim?— left to trim? gosh, i don't think so. we left to trim? gosh, i don't think s0- we are _ left to trim? gosh, i don't think s0- we are so _ left to trim? gosh, i don't think so. we are so stretched - left to trim? gosh, i don't think so. we are so stretched and - left to trim? gosh, i don't thinkl so. we are so stretched and that left to trim? gosh, i don't think. so. we are so stretched and that is worrying i suppose. so. we are so stretched and that is worrying i suppose-— so. we are so stretched and that is worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who _ worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who has _ worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who has her _ worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who has her hand - worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who has her hand up, - worrying i suppose. there is someone at the back who has her hand up, and| at the back who has her hand up, and it is macia. how old are you? i’m it is macia. how old are you? i'm 17. have it is macia. how old are you? i'm 17- have your _ it is macia. how old are you? i'm 17. have your say. _ it is macia. how old are you? i'm 17. have your say. it's _ it is macia. how old are you? i'm 17. have your say. it's about - it is macia. how old are you? i'm i 17. have your say. it's about young --eole 17. have your say. it's about young people having — 17. have your say. it's about young people having a — 17. have your say. it's about young people having a voice. _ 17. have your say. it's about young people having a voice. i _ 17. have your say. it's about young people having a voice. i have - 17. have your say. it's about young people having a voice. i have just i people having a voice. i havejust moved to the area from greater manchester in rochdale. i was part of rochdale youth cabinet and a bunch of other things because i'm interested in politics. what bunch of other things because i'm interested in politics.— bunch of other things because i'm interested in politics. what do you think about _ interested in politics. what do you think about what's _ interested in politics. what do you think about what's happening - interested in politics. what do you think about what's happening at i interested in politics. what do you | think about what's happening at the moment in politics? titer? think about what's happening at the moment in politics?— moment in politics? very chaotic. i thinkthere's _ moment in politics? very chaotic. i think there's been _ moment in politics? very chaotic. i think there's been a _ moment in politics? very chaotic. i think there's been a lot _ moment in politics? very chaotic. i think there's been a lot of- moment in politics? very chaotic. i think there's been a lot of bad - think there's been a lot of bad decisions but what i wanted to say is when i was in greater manchester, andy burnham was a lot in contact with the youth cabinet i was part of

and the member of youth parliament, he was called adam rennie at the time, and he was conversing a lot with andy burnham and they created bus and drum pass which means from 16 to 18 you get free bus travel everywhere in greater manchester. coming back to the north—east, it was a big shock for me when i had to pay so much for travel all the time to school and clubs. again, what was said before about students having to pay especially for university, the fees and accommodation is so much i think travel is also a massive thing. think travel is also a massive thin. . ,., think travel is also a massive thin. . , thing. excellent point, everybody. applause yes, how are we for time? so many people with so much to say. police and crime commissioner kim mcguinness, get the microphone over to you now. there is the unfortunate consequence, some people cross the moral line. there is more crime at

times like this, it is inexcusable but understandable, isn't it? people livin: in but understandable, isn't it? people living in deprivation _ but understandable, isn't it? people living in deprivation are _ but understandable, isn't it? people living in deprivation are much - living in deprivation are much likely to become a victim of crime. and also to commit crime. parents tell me what _ and also to commit crime. parents tell me what they _ and also to commit crime. parents tell me what they are _ and also to commit crime. parents tell me what they are worried - and also to commit crime. parents| tell me what they are worried about is poverty deprivation makes their young people vulnerable to criminal gangs who will willingly pull them into their racket to make money so they can benefit from the cost of living crisis. but my view is we have got to be much better at preventing this. we have talked a lot about this financial crisis. it is a crisis, people are feeling it every day. we need to be investing in those young people, in family services, youth services, so people have the support around them to be able to have that aspiration. this place is brilliant. we've talked a lot about the negative things in this country at the moment. this

place has so much going for it. the people here are affirmation up beyond belief, they are doing incredible things but being forgotten about so we need investment in the public services, we need the voluntary sector organisations to be properly funded so we can prevent crime, prevent mental health crises.— so we can prevent crime, prevent mental health crises. everyone put their hands — mental health crises. everyone put their hands down _ mental health crises. everyone put their hands down on _ mental health crises. everyone put their hands down on issues - mental health crises. everyone put their hands down on issues we - mental health crises. everyone put| their hands down on issues we have been talking about. i only want hands up for people to tell me what is brilliant about sunderland and this part of the world. i will whizz around and get a thought from all of you. what is fantastic about this place? in you. what is fantastic about this lace? , ., ., , place? in times of trouble, the eo - le place? in times of trouble, the people in _ place? in times of trouble, the people in the _ place? in times of trouble, the people in the north-east - place? in times of trouble, the people in the north-east pull. people in the north—east pull together. i've never seen such kindness in people's hearts as i have seen in the last couple of years. applause graham, what is brilliant about this place? graham, what is brilliant about this lace? , ., , ., place? the people. i have lived here 30 ears place? the people. i have lived here 30 years and — place? the people. i have lived here 30 years and the _ place? the people. i have lived here 30 years and the people _ place? the people. i have lived here 30 years and the people in - 30 years and the people in sunderland are great. the 30 years and the people in sunderland are treat. u, , sunderland are great. the community and the ability — sunderland are great. the community and the ability to _ sunderland are great. the community and the ability to regenerate - sunderland are great. the community and the ability to regenerate and - sunderland are great. the community and the ability to regenerate and be l and the ability to regenerate and be

positive _ and the ability to regenerate and be ositive. ., , ., , , ., ., positive. young people, they are and resilient. the _ positive. young people, they are and resilient. the north-east— positive. young people, they are and resilient. the north-east england - resilient. the north-east england chamber of _ resilient. the north-east england chamber of commerce _ resilient. the north-east england chamber of commerce has - resilient. the north-east england | chamber of commerce has worked resilient. the north-east england - chamber of commerce has worked to produce _ chamber of commerce has worked to produce an _ chamber of commerce has worked to produce an employer toolkit to help peopie _ produce an employer toolkit to help people through this difficult period _ people through this difficult eriod. ~ . , people through this difficult eriod. . ., , ., ., people through this difficult eriod. ~ . , ., ., ., period. what is amazing and unique about this particular _ period. what is amazing and unique about this particular part _ period. what is amazing and unique about this particular part of - period. what is amazing and unique about this particular part of the - about this particular part of the world? ., ., ., . ., world? you have touched on it alread , world? you have touched on it already. it _ world? you have touched on it already. it is _ world? you have touched on it already, it is the _ world? you have touched on it already, it is the people - world? you have touched on it already, it is the people in - world? you have touched on it already, it is the people in thei already, it is the people in the voluntary sector, the people who went out in covid and delivered stuff to people. the small voluntary sector groups who survived on less than 10,000 a year, who get very little support. than 10,000 a year, who get very little support-— little support. they are absolute stars. sunderland _ little support. they are absolute stars. sunderland football - little support. they are absolute stars. sunderland football club! | stars. sunderland football club! they _ stars. sunderland football club! they have had their moments. and yes, just positive, andrew. ——

andrea. yes, just positive, andrew. -- andrea. ~ . ., ., ~ , andrea. we are hard-working people but we aet andrea. we are hard-working people but we get the _ andrea. we are hard-working people but we get the job — andrea. we are hard-working people but we get the job done. _ but we get the job done. applause i'm going to ask a politician what the people are like in this neck of the people are like in this neck of the words and i know he's not going to say they are a bit iffy! but it is a place with incredible heart, jonathan reynolds.— is a place with incredible heart, jonathan reynolds. yes, but also incredible industry _ jonathan reynolds. yes, but also incredible industry and _ jonathan reynolds. yes, but also incredible industry and history. . incredible industry and history. things like the nissan car factory in this area which are notjust nationally world—renowned but world class and that is what we can do. i'm always proud to say i have come from sunderland because of how people are reflective, how passionate they are about the area and what it means to them. find passionate they are about the area and what it means to them. and here is the other— and what it means to them. and here is the other side _ and what it means to them. and here is the other side of _ and what it means to them. and here is the other side of the _ and what it means to them. and here is the other side of the political - is the other side of the political argument, i'mjust trying is the other side of the political argument, i'm just trying to get an argument, i'm just trying to get an a microphone to you. what is brilliant about sunderland? it is

brilliant about sunderland? it is the sirit brilliant about sunderland? it is the spirit of _ brilliant about sunderland? it is the spirit of the _ brilliant about sunderland? it is the spirit of the city and the people _ the spirit of the city and the peopie we _ the spirit of the city and the peopie we are _ the spirit of the city and the people. we are the - the spirit of the city and the people. we are the best - the spirit of the city and the . people. we are the best place the spirit of the city and the - people. we are the best place in the world, _ people. we are the best place in the world, iet's— people. we are the best place in the world, let's be — people. we are the best place in the world, let's be honest— people. we are the best place in the world, let's be honest with - people. we are the best place in the world, let's be honest with you. - world, let's be honest with you. hang _ world, let's be honest with you. hang on! — world, let's be honest with you. hang on! its— world, let's be honest with you. hang on! it's a— world, let's be honest with you. hang on! it's a great— world, let's be honest with you. hang on! it's a great place, - world, let's be honest with you. hang on! it's a great place, you| hang on! it's a great place, you don't have to take it too far. we also have _ don't have to take it too far. we also have a _ don't have to take it too far. we also have a football team who sometimes _ also have a football team who sometimes perform _ also have a football team who sometimes perform now- also have a football team who sometimes perform now and i also have a football team who - sometimes perform now and again, but we also _ sometimes perform now and again, but we also have _ sometimes perform now and again, but we also have the — sometimes perform now and again, but we also have the best _ sometimes perform now and again, but we also have the best beaches - sometimes perform now and again, but we also have the best beaches in- sometimes perform now and again, but we also have the best beaches in the i we also have the best beaches in the uk but _ we also have the best beaches in the uk but don't — we also have the best beaches in the uk but don't tell— we also have the best beaches in the uk but don't tell any— we also have the best beaches in the uk but don't tell any southerners! i uk but don't tell any southerners! what's _ uk but don't tell any southerners! what's great — uk but don't tell any southerners! what's great about _ uk but don't tell any southerners! what's great about this _ uk but don't tell any southerners! what's great about this place? - uk but don't tell any southerners! | what's great about this place? the su ort what's great about this place? tie: support the what's great about this place? tte: support the schools what's great about this place? t"te: support the schools are what's great about this place? tte: support the schools are getting, doing the best they can. christie, what do you _ doing the best they can. christie, what do you love _ doing the best they can. christie, what do you love about _ doing the best they can. christie, what do you love about here? - doing the best they can. christie, 1 what do you love about here? me doing the best they can. christie, | what do you love about here? me i alwa s what do you love about here? me i always say — what do you love about here? me i always say the _ what do you love about here? me i always say the arts, _ what do you love about here? me i always say the arts, i _ what do you love about here? me i always say the arts, i always feel like the _ always say the arts, i always feel like the arts in sunderland are really— like the arts in sunderland are really under appreciated. we have great _ really under appreciated. we have great theatre and a great music scene — great theatre and a great music scene, and i feel the arts in sunderland if you ever come here is what _ sunderland if you ever come here is what you _ sunderland if you ever come here is what you need to see. applause we have a lady back here, kerry, you had a spirited exchange with paul scully who was kind enough to join us, the conservative frontbencher,

and you are quite angry. be positive about this place, what is it about where you live and where you grew up that you love so much? t am where you live and where you grew up that you love so much?— that you love so much? i am from teesside so _ that you love so much? i am from teesside so i've _ that you love so much? i am from teesside so i've got _ that you love so much? i am from teesside so i've got to _ that you love so much? i am from teesside so i've got to say - that you love so much? i am from teesside so i've got to say a - that you love so much? i am from i teesside so i've got to say a parmo. applause we are in ourfinal minute now and there are huge challenges and i want a last word from amanda who gave such a picture of her life and her struggles. you need all the support you can get right now, are you getting enough? tia. you can get right now, are you getting enough?— you can get right now, are you caettin enou~h? ., ,., getting enough? no. the government needs to give — getting enough? no. the government needs to give more _ getting enough? no. the government needs to give more people _ getting enough? no. the government needs to give more people who - getting enough? no. the government needs to give more people who are i needs to give more people who are disabled, notjust myself but other people, more help. we don't want to be off work, we want to do more but if you can't do it, you can't do it, and it's frustrating. and less looking down on us.- and it's frustrating. and less looking down on us. thank you all very much — looking down on us. thank you all very much indeed _ looking down on us. thank you all very much indeed for— looking down on us. thank you all very much indeed for your - looking down on us. thank you all very much indeed for your time i looking down on us. thank you all. very much indeed for your time this morning. applause that is all we have got time for,

but what a great audience you have been. wonderful contributions. this is bbc news, i'mjoanna gosling live today in sunderland. the headlines... inflation in the uk has returned to the ao—year high it hit earlier this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer prices index is at 10.1% driven mostly by rising food prices. to pay everything and ijust don't have it. we're here in sunderland throughout the day on bbc news — we'll be finding out how people are coping with rising prices.

i really hate the fact that people are suffering the weight you just described. we got to do something about it, we cannotjust sit. you about it, we cannot 'ust sit. you have been in h about it, we cannot 'ust sit. you have been in power_ about it, we cannotjust sit. you have been in power for 12 years, how can you _ have been in power for 12 years, how can you say _ have been in power for 12 years, how can you say you're trying to do something, you've been in power for 12 years? _ i'm annita mcveigh at westminster — where, in an hour's time — liz truss will face questions from mps in the house of commons for the first time since the almost complete reversal of her economic plan. and as inflation hits double figures, downing street refuses to commit to increasing state pensions in line with prices — which would be breaking a manifesto pledge. obviously, we take manifesto commitments incredible seriously. the chancellor will be making a statement in just over a week time where he will set out all the plans for taxation and expenditure and government budgets.

hello and welcome to bbc news — with mejoanna gosling in sunderland — and annita mcveigh in westminster. we're here today to talk about the rising cost of living — and how it's affecting you and your family. new figures out today show inflation in the uk has returned to the ao—year high it hit earlier this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer prices index is at 10.1%. the story is very much around the cost of food prices, currently up 14.6%. a cost of food prices, currently up 1a.6%. a very human story and we will be here throughout the day in sunderland talking to people about how it is hitting them. lots of

political questions to be answered, lots of little decisions to be taken and a big day in westminster with prime minister's questions coming up. and a good morning from westminster — where in an hour's time — liz truss will face questions from mps in the house of commons for the first time since the almost complete reversal of her economic plan. ms truss has described the decision to drop her package of tax cuts as "painful". and there's a row brewing in her own party of the possibility of scrapping the so—called triple lock on pensions. that's a promise to raise pensions by the highest of three measures — the rate of inflation, average earnings or 2.5%. it comes after downing street said it was reviewing its commitment to increasing payments in line with inflation. as the government are under

pressure, to balance the books, people around the uk are under pressure to balance their books to make their household budgets work. joanna, you have been hearing a lot about that today in sunderland? we are covering both those aspects, with the political doing and how people at home are feeling this. but we'll start with those inflation figures — and the rising cost of living. the rate of inflation rose again in september. inflation now stands at 10.1% — that's a measure of average prices between september 2021 and september 2022. in other words — if you paid £100 for a variety of products in september last year, you're now paying — on average — £110 and ten pence for the same products this year. some prices went up more than others. food and non—alcoholic rose by 14.6% — even though petrol

and air fares went down. here in sunderland — hannah miller has been speaking to people to find out how they are being affected. all across the country, rising prices are wearing people down and wearing away at their budgets. amanda used to work in a hospital before a head injury five years ago. now she receives disability benefits and lives with her mum. it can be really difficult to try and have the money. sometimes i've been left with £30 in the account for over a week to pay everything and just don't have it. how does that make you feel? upset. it's distressing. i'd have liked to be a good role model for my son and... can't be. i'd love to work. nobody would employ me. how urgently do you need to see benefits go up in line with inflation?

today, now. should have been done a long time ago, but they're not in any hurry. today's figure is important because it sets the rate at which some disability benefits will rise, but not until april. the government previously made a commitment to raise all benefits, including universal credit, in line with inflation, but with the figure much higher than they anticipated back then, that commitment is now in doubt and the rise in prices is forcing businesses to make cuts too. matei decided to close his second restaurantjust three weeks ago because of unmanageable bills. starting to impact quite a lot on everything, what i do, using quite a lot of electricity, gas. comparing, i give an example, springtime last year, literally triple up. and now from this month,

everything again will go up and the cost will reflect in the food. but unfortunately, i can't put any more on top of the prices, and to be honest, this is where i am with my business now, in a surviving mood until the springtime when we hopefully can go back on better things. how confident are you that you can survive as a business? i don't have any option. this is my life. and the squeeze on household budgets is only expected to get tighter with the recent rise in energy costs not yet factored into today's figure. and it's those on the lowest incomes who feel the surge in inflation most keenly as it leaves us all with less to spend and more difficult choices to make. we can speak now to dr leah downey, economist and research fellow at cambridge university.

thank you forjoining as. 10.1% inflation but obviously behind that headline rate, there are other stories to be told. what is your reaction to the levels we are talking about today? it is reaction to the levels we are talking about today?- reaction to the levels we are talking about today? it is a high level of inflation, _ talking about today? it is a high level of inflation, we _ talking about today? it is a high level of inflation, we have - level of inflation, we have hit double digits in the key driver of the pain we are seeing of the cost of living crisis that is coming out of living crisis that is coming out of this inflation is the difference between the rise in prices and people's income. when their income and does not rise as fast as prizes, people cannot afford as much so it is effectively a wage cut and that is effectively a wage cut and that is particular difficult because as you mentioned, we are seeing the highest rise of prices that are amongst things that people spend the most of their income on like food and housing etc. ibis most of their income on like food and housing etc.— and housing etc. as you say, at a time when _ and housing etc. as you say, at a time when the _ and housing etc. as you say, at a time when the cost _ and housing etc. as you say, at a time when the cost of _ and housing etc. as you say, at a time when the cost of living - and housing etc. as you say, at a time when the cost of living is . time when the cost of living is outstripping wage growth, people are facing very difficult choices? yes.

facing very difficult choices? yes, they definitely — facing very difficult choices? yes, they definitely are. _ facing very difficult choices? te: they definitely are. difficult choices and it is not good for people's household income and not good for the economy. when people can afford less, we see fewer people in the pubs and on the high streets spending money. we see fewer people taking risks on starting new businesses or investing in new skills training and as a result, the economy will suffer as well as individual households. 50. economy will suffer as well as individual households.- individual households. so, it becomes _ individual households. so, it becomes a _ individual households. so, it becomes a vicious _ individual households. so, it becomes a vicious circle. - individual households. so, it. becomes a vicious circle. where individual households. so, it- becomes a vicious circle. where do you see things going? the difficulty there is that _ you see things going? the difficulty there is that it _ you see things going? the difficulty there is that it depends _ you see things going? the difficultyi there is that it depends enormously on what we do, particular with the government does. the government has been discussing lots of cuts and in particular, cuts to public services and potentially cuts to peoples incomes by cutting benefits and pensions effectively by not increasing them in line with inflation but that could only add to the problem by making it more

difficult for team people to engage in economic activity. there are other ways the government could make up other ways the government could make up shortfalls by saying increasing taxes, companies that have been experiencing high profits so a lot will depend on what the government decides to do. will depend on what the government decides to do— will depend on what the government decides to do. obviously what we saw ha enin: decides to do. obviously what we saw happening was _ decides to do. obviously what we saw happening was the — decides to do. obviously what we saw happening was the choice _ decides to do. obviously what we saw happening was the choice that - decides to do. obviously what we saw happening was the choice that the - happening was the choice that the government made three weeks ago which was to cut taxes to try to incentivise extra spending for businesses, to try to give people more money in their pockets and businesses, to try to give people more money in their pockets an so ,,,, businesses, to try to give people more money in their pockets an so as ,,,, how checeeee— .. how , you e how {you see that sought to the planfimr rm if; pia’n’tt " 7“ 7 7 7 p7la7ninsepte7mb7er7777 7 7 7 p7la7ninsepte7mb7er7to government's plan in september to the mini budget was not necessarily a reaction from the markets purely on the basis that their plan was

underfunded or required to much borrowing, but rather, it was because itjust was not a good plan. it suggested borrowing in order to support tax cuts for the wealthy which just is not a support tax cuts for the wealthy whichjust is not a good recipe support tax cuts for the wealthy which just is not a good recipe for growth. we saw this in the bond markets did not panic right after the announcement of unfunded borrowing to support the energy programme, rather, they panicked after the announcement of a less than promising growth plan, so it is not necessarily about how much the government borrows, but what it borrows for. so it is important to emphasise that the cuts we are facing now or really a result of the chaos that came out of that mini budget and ijust hope the government thinks long and hard before they put us into another bout of austerity. before they put us into another bout of austerity-— of austerity. thank you very much indeed for — of austerity. thank you very much indeed forjoining _ of austerity. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. _ well, this morning there's been a bbc debate about the cost of living hearing from some people here in sunderland, experts and politicians.

let's hearjust a little bit of that now. i saw isawa i saw a segment on the news last night and they six to five—year—old woman was crying because she couldn't used a toaster. that lady over there has been crying about the cost of living. are you not ashamed of a party that our older generation are crying, in fear of how they will survive and live? are you not of that? it survive and live? are you not of that? , ., ., , .,, ., that? it is not about being ashamed, it is about trying _ that? it is not about being ashamed, it is about trying to _ that? it is not about being ashamed, it is about trying to work— that? it is not about being ashamed, it is about trying to work out - that? it is not about being ashamed, it is about trying to work out how - it is about trying to work out how to act _ it is about trying to work out how to act i— it is about trying to work out how to act. i hate the fact that there are people suffering the weight you have just _ are people suffering the weight you have just described. i did not see that peace — have just described. i did not see that peace. we have got to do something about it, we just cannot~~~ _ something about it, we 'ust cannot...i something about it, we 'ust cannot... ., ., , something about it, we 'ust cannot... ., . , ., cannot... you have been in power for 12 ears, cannot... you have been in power for 12 years. how— cannot... you have been in power for 12 years. how can _ cannot... you have been in power for 12 years, how can you _ cannot... you have been in power for 12 years, how can you say, _ cannot... you have been in power for 12 years, how can you say, we - cannot... you have been in power for 12 years, how can you say, we are . 12 years, how can you say, we are trying to do something? iltiui’hat 12 years, how can you say, we are trying to do something?— 12 years, how can you say, we are trying to do something? what we have not had in those _ trying to do something? what we have not had in those 12 _ trying to do something? what we have not had in those 12 years, _ trying to do something? what we have not had in those 12 years, not - trying to do something? what we have not had in those 12 years, not two - not had in those 12 years, not two years _ not had in those 12 years, not two years where — not had in those 12 years, not two years where we basically switched offm _ years where we basically switched off... ~ . ., ' years where we basically switched off... . ., ' , ., off... we have had 12 years of austerity. _ off... we have had 12 years of austerity, how _ off... we have had 12 years of austerity, how can _ off... we have had 12 years of austerity, how can you - off... we have had 12 years of| austerity, how can you defend off... we have had 12 years of- austerity, how can you defend that? every single country in the world turned _ every single country in the world turned off— every single country in the world turned off their economy effectively

effectively. can turned off their economy effectively effectivel . . , ., , turned off their economy effectively effectivel. ., , . ., effectively. can you 'ust change the same driver _ effectively. can you 'ust change the same drivel over — effectively. can you just change the same drivel over and _ effectively. can you just change the same drivel over and over - effectively. can you just change the same drivel over and over again - effectively. can you just change the same drivel over and over again by| same drivel over and over again by blaming ukraine and covid—19. you have been in powerfor 12 years sub—40% of children in the north—east live in poverty. are you not ashamed of that. north-east live in poverty. are you not ashamed of that.— not ashamed of that. what i am sa in: to not ashamed of that. what i am saying to you — not ashamed of that. what i am saying to you is _ not ashamed of that. what i am saying to you is that _ not ashamed of that. what i am saying to you is that we - not ashamed of that. what i am saying to you is that we are - not ashamed of that. what i am i saying to you is that we are trying to target — saying to you is that we are trying to target our support towards those people _ to target our support towards those eo - le. . , ., to target our support towards those --eole. ., , ., people. there has not been enough here to say — people. there has not been enough here to say about _ people. there has not been enough here to say about support - people. there has not been enough here to say about support for - people. there has not been enough here to say about support for the i here to say about support for the government— here to say about support for the government has— here to say about support for the government has done _ here to say about support for the government has done for- here to say about support for the government has done for people | here to say about support for the i government has done for people in this country — government has done for people in this country i_ government has done for people in this country. i accept _ government has done for people in this country. i accept that - this country. i accept that everybody _ this country. i accept that everybody is _ this country. i accept that everybody is an _ this country. i accept thatl everybody is an individual, everybody _ everybody is an individual, everybody has _ everybody is an individual, everybody has struggles i everybody is an individual, i everybody has struggles and everybody is an individual, - everybody has struggles and strife. i am everybody has struggles and strife. i am a _ everybody has struggles and strife. i am a pensioner— everybody has struggles and strife. i am a pensioner and _ everybody has struggles and strife. i am a pensioner and on _ everybody has struggles and strife. i am a pensioner and on benefits. i i am a pensioner and on benefits. how— i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do _ i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do you — i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do you feel _ i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do you feel about _ i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do you feel about the - i am a pensioner and on benefits. how do you feel about the triple i how do you feel about the triple pension lock? brute how do you feel about the triple pension lock?— how do you feel about the triple pension lock? how do you feel about the triple ension lock? ., �* ~ ., ., pension lock? we don't know how it will happen- — pension lock? we don't know how it will happen- i _ pension lock? we don't know how it will happen. i am _ pension lock? we don't know how it will happen. i am grateful _ pension lock? we don't know how it will happen. i am grateful that - pension lock? we don't know how it| will happen. i am grateful that £650 was liven will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out _ will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out in _ will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july. _ will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july. half— will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july. half of- will happen. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july. half of it - was given out injuly. half of it was given out injuly. half of it was given out and the other part comes out on the 8th of november. there's another £300 on top of the

winter fuel allowance. there's another £300 on top of the winterfuelallowance. i there's another £300 on top of the winter fuel allowance. i have switched to a variable account on my energy, my bill came to six to £7 my bill was nil because of the government gave me £67. i am very gratefulfor government gave me £67. i am very grateful for what the government is doing. there are struggles and i accept that but there should be some one who will say they are grateful for what the government are doing for what the government are doing for certain of society. just a snapshot of that debate. joining me now is louise kennedy, the managing director of oculus hr. thank you forjoining us. you have lived and worked in sunderland for most of your life. i wonder how it

has changed over those years and how you see it now?— you see it now? certainly there is a hue you see it now? certainly there is a huge amount _ you see it now? certainly there is a huge amount of— you see it now? certainly there is a huge amount of regeneration - you see it now? certainly there is a huge amount of regeneration in - you see it now? certainly there is a| huge amount of regeneration in the area at the moment. i set my business up 9.5 years ago and the committee of businesses set up is unreal and the support given there. there are so many good home—grown businesses here but moving forward as to what is taking place, there is as to what is taking place, there is a massive regeneration so things such as entrance to the city, the new train station, money invested by legal and general and this new city hall that has recently been built. there is a corridor that has recently moved into the area as well, which is great. there is a huge amount of investment taking place as well as a new infirmary being built in the city centre living so a plan over the next ten years, from what even you see today, the plan of what we see here today to what it is going to be moving forward in the future will completely change the landscape of

sunderland. 50 completely change the landscape of sunderland. , ., ., , sunderland. so you are feeling very optimistic? — sunderland. so you are feeling very optimistic? very. _ sunderland. so you are feeling very optimistic? very. you _ sunderland. so you are feeling very optimistic? very. you were - sunderland. so you are feeling very optimistic? very. you were talking | optimistic? very. you were talking there about private business investment in sunderland. i have been talking to one expert who has been talking to one expert who has been looking at the levelling up funding and his concerns around the fact that the north—east is not getting the same level of investment support from the central funds as other areas. support from the central funds as otherareas. is support from the central funds as other areas. is that something you see? . , . ., . other areas. is that something you see? . , .., . ., see? certainly, the council are -aushin see? certainly, the council are pushing the — see? certainly, the council are pushing the agenda _ see? certainly, the council are pushing the agenda to - see? certainly, the council are pushing the agenda to try - see? certainly, the council are pushing the agenda to try and | see? certainly, the council are - pushing the agenda to try and raise the money and to be able to have that involvement but there has been a huge amount of private investment but people have been attracted by the work the council are doing and the work the council are doing and the government are doing to be able to draw and attract the bigger investors into it. i think there is potentially not coming from the government because they are gaining interest there, there is a good piece of work that is taking place to regenerate the area. that piece of work that is taking place to regenerate the area.—

to regenerate the area. that is fundamental, _ to regenerate the area. that is fundamental, that _ to regenerate the area. that is fundamental, that private - to regenerate the area. that is - fundamental, that private investment coming in, in terms ofjob creation, but what is the jobs market looking like currently? but what is the “obs market looking like currently?— like currently? working in hr, we are struggling _ like currently? working in hr, we are struggling across _ like currently? working in hr, we are struggling across different - are struggling across different areas and all sectors. anything from struggling to find football coaches through to mds for businesses. there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of people out there so that equipment pieces will important for businesses and as a business, we are looking to see how we can spot our clients to be different, to stand out and build that cultural peace around it, just to be able to help the recruitment element of it, become attractive. it is notjust element of it, become attractive. it is not just a element of it, become attractive. it is notjust a one—way street element of it, become attractive. it is not just a one—way street where the employee is interviewed as a candidate, it is a two—way street now where the candidates have the choice of roles that are available that i think it is a struggle around the recruitment element of it. can ou the recruitment element of it. can you identify _ the recruitment element of it. can you identify local issues in that because obviously it is an issue across the country but is there anything specific to sunderland that you see? t

anything specific to sunderland that ou see? ~ , ., , , anything specific to sunderland that ousee? ., you see? i think previously people would always _ you see? i think previously people would always have _ you see? i think previously people would always have thought - you see? i think previously people would always have thought i - you see? i think previously people i would always have thought i needed to move out of sunderland to work outside of sunderland but i have seen more that people are coming into sunderland to work and they want to live and work here. i public would not have a desire to jump on the train to newcastle every day other than we have availability and resources here. it is different and i think this investment will encourage people wanting to work in the area. ~ . , ,., encourage people wanting to work in thearea. . ., . ., ., the area. what is your anecdotal exoerience _ the area. what is your anecdotal experience about _ the area. what is your anecdotal experience about what - the area. what is your anecdotal experience about what is - the area. what is your anecdotal. experience about what is happening with wages because we know across the piece, they are not rising in line with inflation but when there are not enough people to go around for thejobs, you would are not enough people to go around for the jobs, you would assume that employers are going to have to offer more money?— more money? people are having to offer more — more money? people are having to offer more money, _ more money? people are having to offer more money, it's _ more money? people are having to offer more money, it's a _ more money? people are having to offer more money, it's a very - offer more money, it's a very difficult situation. some people don't take enough staff on because of that situation so it is a big thing and what we are seeing a lot of is more bonuses given out. maybe

it is £500 or £1000 being given out as a one—off to be able to help people with energy crisis situations. we are seeing that quite regularly over the last few months. it certainly is that people are considering pushing the salaries up to what people need. t considering pushing the salaries up to what people need.— considering pushing the salaries up to what people need. i have been out and about here _ to what people need. i have been out and about here talking _ to what people need. i have been out and about here talking to _ to what people need. i have been out and about here talking to people - to what people need. i have been out and about here talking to people on i and about here talking to people on the street about what is on their minds in the first thing people talk about is the cost of living. the energy bills, that has obviously been the focus for some time, but the subject that kept getting brought up was the food prices and thatis brought up was the food prices and that is something we have now seen today in terms of that is an area where there is increased pressure, food prices going up 14.6% over the course of a year. joining me now is the political editor of bbc

north east and cumbria, richard moss. the cost of living is whether people can afford to heat their homes, the prices we have seen a rise in supermarkets and of course, this is an area really that actually came close to boating conservative but i know there were labour mps worried on the night that they would join others in losing their seats here. but of course now the conservatives are battling to save what they have here in the region and trying to answer those questions is going to be key. we have a lot of decisions ahead in terms of what happens to benefits, to pensions that will affect people very much in this region. affect people very much in this reuion. ., ., ,., affect people very much in this reuion. ., ., ,. , region. how would you describe where sunderland is — region. how would you describe where sunderland is in _ region. how would you describe where sunderland is in terms _ region. how would you describe where sunderland is in terms of— region. how would you describe where sunderland is in terms of investment i sunderland is in terms of investment from central funds and also from private businesses coming in and

behind us, this is a central infrastructure project with what has happened with the old fire station and there are lots of examples of that sort of investment but elsewhere, high street, for instance, is very quiet with lots of clues shops. instance, is very quiet with lots of clues shops-— clues shops. there has been a rurowin clues shops. there has been a growing sense _ clues shops. there has been a growing sense of— clues shops. there has been a growing sense of confidence i clues shops. there has been a i growing sense of confidence with developments like this. for a long time it was seen as a poor relation to newcastle. newcastle has had a lot of regeneration to the arts and things like that and some feel as if we have been left behind the experience site that was vacant has now been developed and of course we now been developed and of course we now have this cost of living crisis effect on business confidence on the concerns there will be about that as to whether, how that affects the growing sense of the continued investment. you mentioned high street, where do people first started comeback? it is what they

spendin started comeback? it is what they spend in shops and that is key. sunderland again has been in the shadow the metrocentre in newcastle and we need to find a lot of local retailers to replace but people have to be able to afford to start this businesses and things like business rates will be a big issue as well. that is the picture here in sunderland. let'sjoin annita, who is at westminster for us. welcome to westminster, where the prime minister will face questions from mps in the house of commons later for the first time she apologised, saying she made mistakes with her initial plan for the economy which has been effectively ripped up by her new

chancellor, jeremy hunt. her opponents including those within the party are saying, she is a distraction from getting on with that business, that she is not necessarily the right person to get on with that business of dealing with the cost of living crisis so she will be under pressure today as she will be under pressure today as she faces questions from mps in the house of commons. half an hour away from prime minister's questions. it is only her first since that almost complete reversal of economic plan. liz truss has described the decision to drop her package of tax cuts as "painful". pmqs will likely see the prime minister asked about pensions, after downing street said it was reviewing its commitment to increasing payments in line with inflation. this today's figures give us more clarity on the options for government on pension. the "new" state pension is currently

worth £185.15 a week. if it goes up in line with prices, it will be £203.85 a week from april. if it rises in line with earnings, it will be £195.35 a week. the basic state pension, for those who reached state pension age before april 2016, is currently £141.85 a week. this would go up to £156.20 if it rises in line with prices, and £149.65 if it rises in line with average earnings. this is topped up with pension credit for some low—income pensioners. when we took about the government renewing its commitment to the triple lock, we are talking about that rule which says that pensions will rise in line with the highest of one of three figures, the rate of

inflation, the average wage, or 2.5%, whichever is greater. our political correspondent ben wright is with me. first of all on pensions, there is quite a lot of pushback on this and i am talking about from liz truss's own mps? tt i am talking about from liz truss's own mps? , . i am talking about from liz truss's own mps? ,. . i am talking about from liz truss's ownmps? . _ ., own mps? it is a systemic policy, an essential manifesto _ own mps? it is a systemic policy, an essential manifesto commitment. own mps? it is a systemic policy, an. essential manifesto commitment that the conservatives went into the last election. liz truss recommitted to edit very recently back in the tory party conference before the government's entire fiscal plan was shredded and it is an issue that affects millions of pensioners, some of whom are the poorest people in the country, as a lot of conservative mps feel incredibly strongly about it but the chancellor has said that everything is now on the table as he tries to find £40 billion to fill in the whole and he said that will from tax rises and spending cuts and with everything in

the mix, there is, at the moment, before we hear a statement on the 31st october, massive amounts of speculation about what he might do, which is why we are all talking today about the pensions triple because normally that is in the september rise in inflation. today the foreign secretary was asked if that manifesto would be kept. they are important and i know your viewers _ they are important and i know your viewers would want me to give certainty — viewers would want me to give certainty here and now. i am not in a position— certainty here and now. i am not in a position to — certainty here and now. i am not in a position to do that because the announcements are going to be made in the _ announcements are going to be made in the very— announcements are going to be made in the very near future by the chancellor, that is the right thing to do. _ chancellor, that is the right thing to do. but— chancellor, that is the right thing to do. but i— chancellor, that is the right thing to do, but i completely understand when _ to do, but i completely understand when people are feeling pressure on their bills, _ when people are feeling pressure on their bills, when they are worried about— their bills, when they are worried about their— their bills, when they are worried about their mortgages going up, when they are _ about their mortgages going up, when they are worried about how much it costs _ they are worried about how much it costs to _ they are worried about how much it costs to fill — they are worried about how much it costs to fill their car or heat their— costs to fill their car or heat their homes, we absolutely get it. we have _ their homes, we absolutely get it. we have got to do the right thing to make _ we have got to do the right thing to make sure — we have got to do the right thing to make sure that we manage the economy well. make sure that we manage the economy welt we _ make sure that we manage the economy well. we have got to make sure that

our cost _ well. we have got to make sure that our cost of _ well. we have got to make sure that our cost of borrowing does not go up because _ our cost of borrowing does not go up because that then has an impact on inflation _ because that then has an impact on inflation and those bills as well. he also— inflation and those bills as well. he also said this morning that he was warning tory mps not to demonstrate liz truss. concentrating still on pensions, labour�*s demonstrate liz truss. concentrating still on pensions, labour'sjonathan reynolds was also asked if going into the next election, labour would also keep a commitment to the triple lock this is what he said. yes, and let us be clear, the manifesto _ yes, and let us be clear, the manifesto commitment is for exactly the same _ manifesto commitment is for exactly the same thing so there is no doubt that this _ the same thing so there is no doubt that this should be doing. there is no doubt _ that this should be doing. there is no doubt that the conservative mps have made — no doubt that the conservative mps have made those personal commitments themselves— have made those personal commitments themselves when they were elected so they should be no question of protecting people by matching the operating to inflation. asl protecting people by matching the operating to inflation.— operating to inflation. as i was mentioning. — operating to inflation. as i was mentioning, pressure - operating to inflation. as i was mentioning, pressure certainly operating to inflation. as i was . mentioning, pressure certainly for the prime minister, only her third prime minister's questions and since

the second one a week ago, look at what has happened. she has got rid of her first chancellor, her new chancellor has basically ditched almost all of her economic plan which is due to for leadership and also now we are hearing this afternoon, pressure building around theissue afternoon, pressure building around the issue of fracking. tett afternoon, pressure building around the issue of fracking._ the issue of fracking. tell us more frackin: is the issue of fracking. tell us more fracking is becoming _ the issue of fracking. tell us more fracking is becoming one - the issue of fracking. tell us more fracking is becoming one of- the issue of fracking. tell us more fracking is becoming one of those| fracking is becoming one of those big issues now because the government said it was going to lift its ban on the practice of extracting shale gas in committees where there was consent for that. that is immediately caused a lot of concern on the tory backbenches bitterly among mps whose constituencies might be affected. labour which things the ban should remain in place is going to use parliamentary procedure to begin the process of trying to effectively take control of the parliamentary agenda and putted for the mps the chance to build on banning fracking out rightly that process begins today. what is really interesting is that the government sources are saying to tory mps that is going to

be treated as a confidence issue. if you voted with labour, then this is now a matter of confidence. it is that serious and it says an awful lot about the nervousness within number ten about their own authority at the moment. this number ten about their own authority at the moment-— at the moment. this is liz truss auoin at the moment. this is liz truss going down _ at the moment. this is liz truss going down the _ at the moment. this is liz truss going down the gauntlet - at the moment. this is liz truss going down the gauntlet to - at the moment. this is liz truss going down the gauntlet to herl at the moment. this is liz truss - going down the gauntlet to her mps and saying, back me on this? yes. and saying, back me on this? yes, exactl . and saying, back me on this? yes, exactly- the _ and saying, back me on this? yes, exactly. the first _ and saying, back me on this? yes, exactly. the first instance - and saying, back me on this? yes, exactly. the first instance we - and saying, back me on this? te: exactly. the first instance we are seeing her do that and frankly, with her authority as weak as it is, and with so many controversial issues coming up like pensions, whether to grade benefits, like fracking, and the pet party in a mutinous state that it the pet party in a mutinous state thatitis the pet party in a mutinous state that it is in at the moment, this is one of the only cards of authority under threat that number ten will have at the moment with their own mps. they are saying, if you voted down critical bits of legislation or side with labour, it could potentially perceptive general election and that is something that tory mps do not want as they look at

the opinion polls. yen; tory mps do not want as they look at the opinion polls.— the opinion polls. very interesting times and high — the opinion polls. very interesting times and high stakes, _ the opinion polls. very interesting times and high stakes, i _ the opinion polls. very interesting times and high stakes, i think, - the opinion polls. very interesting times and high stakes, i think, as| times and high stakes, i think, as we head into the rest of the day in parliament. we are going to get some reaction straightaway from a conservative mp to all of this. let's now talk to the conservative mp steve double. want conservative mp steve double. to begin with that i fracking, want to begin with that issue of fracking, the government is making it a confidence issue. liz truss is throwing down the gauntlet to mps like yourself and saying back me on this because labour says it wanted to put a total ban on fracking, your thoughts on the matter?— to put a total ban on fracking, your thoughts on the matter? think it's a case where — thoughts on the matter? think it's a case where labour _ thoughts on the matter? think it's a case where labour have _ thoughts on the matter? think it's a case where labour have overplayed | case where labour have overplayed their hand on this occasion, and the government is right on this because what labour want to do is take over the order paper, things that we saw happen back in the brexit times with john bercow in the chair, and then introduce legislation. it is the government's job to control the

order paper and introduce legislation. so it, i think it is right whatever your views for or against fracking, that conservative mps shouldn't be voting to allow the labour party to take over the order paper. labour party to take over the order -a er. , ., labour party to take over the order --aer. , . ., labour party to take over the order n-aer. , ., ., paper. yet, 'ust earlier today you retweeted paper. yet, just earlier today you retweeted one _ paper. yet, just earlier today you retweeted one of— paper. yet, just earlier today you retweeted one of your _ paper. yet, just earlier today you t retweeted one of your colleagues paper. yet, just earlier today you - retweeted one of your colleagues and said that you as well as her would not vote for any change in the rules on the triple lock on pension, so it sounds like you would potentially vote against your party leader the prime minister on that but not on fracking? prime minister on that but not on frackin: ? �* .., , prime minister on that but not on frackin: ? �* .. , ., prime minister on that but not on frackin. ? �* .. , ., ., ,., prime minister on that but not on frackin. ? �* , ., ., ., fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically _ fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically put _ fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically put themselves i to do, is basically put themselves in government and take over control of the order paper, that is something i would be surs priced if any conservative mp were not going to vote to allow the labour party to do that. would labour be trying to do this, hand on heart, do you think they would be trying to do this mr double, if we hadn'tjust had the

last few weeks, a rough few weeks for liz truss as prime minister? qt for liz truss as prime minister? of course for liz truss as prime minister? qt course not. for liz truss as prime minister? (ztt course not. the labour for liz truss as prime minister? ttt course not. the labour party now that fracking is a controversial matter, that there are different views about fracking on our benches and they are exploiting that, but they are matters that we within the conservative party need to resolve, we are not going to allow the opposition to act as the government and bring forward legislation, that is something we are not going to vote fore. ., ,., is something we are not going to vote fore. ., ., ., vote fore. you said earlier that liz truss is in — vote fore. you said earlier that liz truss is in the _ vote fore. you said earlier that liz truss is in the last _ vote fore. you said earlier that liz truss is in the last chance - vote fore. you said earlier that liz truss is in the last chance saloon, t truss is in the last chance saloon, how much hinges on what she does at pmq, whether she gives you confidence in her ability to manage a set piece event in the parliamentary week? t a set piece event in the parliamentary week? a set piece event in the parliamenta week? ~ . ., , parliamentary week? i think clearly pmqs is parliamentary week? i think clearly pmos is one _ parliamentary week? i think clearly pmqs is one of _ parliamentary week? i think clearly pmqs is one of those _ parliamentary week? i think clearly pmqs is one of those set _ parliamentary week? i think clearly pmqs is one of those set piece - pmqs is one of those set piece events where the prime minister has the opportunity to step up and provide that confident show they have got the qualities we need, to perform at the despatch box, that is

only one part of, as we know of the prime minister, but it is an opportunity for her, to show to our party, and to the country, that she has the qualities we need to lead us through these very challenging times, and, you know, ithink many people will be watching pmqs very closely. tote people will be watching pmqs very closel . ~ ., people will be watching pmqs very closel . ~ . , ., ., , closely. we are showing our viewers live shots from _ closely. we are showing our viewers live shots from downing _ closely. we are showing our viewers live shots from downing street - closely. we are showing our viewers live shots from downing street right now, as we wait on liz truss to make the short journey now, as we wait on liz truss to make the shortjourney here, to the house of commons. i want to ask you mr double, whether you were one of the mps who has already given a letter of no confidence in the prime minister to the 1922 committee? t minister to the 1922 committee? i have always maintained that correspondence teasy—weasy myself and sir graham brady are a matter between the two of us, i have never made whatever correspondence has gone on in that way, that is not something i am going to discuss, i have made my views on the prime minister known quite clearly, and you know, i am waiting to see what happens now. ts you know, i am waiting to see what happens now— happens now. is she the leader to take the conservatives _

happens now. is she the leader to take the conservatives into - happens now. is she the leader to take the conservatives into the i happens now. is she the leader to i take the conservatives into the next election, whenever that might be? t election, whenever that might be? i think she has a very very short window now, to prove to us, if she is the right person, i have my doubts but i think the ball is in her court of, she needs to step up and show she has the qualities we needin and show she has the qualities we need in a prime minister to get us through these incredibly challenging months that lie ahead but she lays out what her policies are, because she has had to ditch many of them, so we need to know what it is she stands for and what are going to be her policies going forward. she has to step up to the plate and prove to us, that she is the right person. tt us, that she is the right person. it is going to be an uphill struggle. it would be for anyone, if two weeks into the job they had to ditch almost all the policies on which they had food for that leadership. there are questionses to be asked. she made very bold statements during her election campaign, like the triple lock where she was unequivocal she was going to keep

that, now, she won't confirm that, so, i think understandably there are questions to be asked, when you stand for election and win an election on clear policies is an within a matter of weeks you ditch most of those, and we need to know what is she stand for and can we trust her to keep her promises? steve double, thank you for your time. we will let you get over to the house of commons for m0. the house of commons for mo. the viewers will be well aware of recent polls which suggest that labour has a significant lead on the conservatives, also, pretty dire approval ratings for liz truss as prime minister, one poll earlier this week gave labour a 36 point lead. with me now isjoe twyma. joe twyman is co—founder and director of the public opinion

consultancy deltapoll. what is interesting is you have asked conservative party member, the wider member, the people, who put liz truss in power.— liz truss in power. well, that wasn't us. — liz truss in power. well, that wasn't us, but _ liz truss in power. well, that wasn't us, but i _ liz truss in power. well, that wasn't us, but i can - liz truss in power. well, that wasn't us, but i can talk- liz truss in power. well, that | wasn't us, but i can talk about that. t wasn't us, but i can talk about that. ., , , ., wasn't us, but i can talk about that. ., , ., ., that. i do beg your pardon, i have looked at the _ that. i do beg your pardon, i have looked at the wrong _ that. i do beg your pardon, i have looked at the wrong poll. - that. i do beg your pardon, i have looked at the wrong poll. . - that. i do beg your pardon, i have looked at the wrong poll. . that i looked at the wrong poll. . that showed a majority of conservative party members, so as you say this important constituency liz truss had to appeal to to win the leadership. a imagine of them felt it was right she should resign, and among that group borisjohnson was the most favoured of the replacementings and so it demonstrates the depth of trouble that the conservatives are in, because the leader of the conservative party in order to become leader had to appeal to three distinct group, the mp, it was rishi sunak that won that vote, with liz truss coming a distant second, really, it was then the conservative party members, where indeed liz truss did win, and then lastly she had to appeal to the general public and it is among the general public,

the most recent polls have been so damning for the conservatives, not just in terms of voting intention where labour are more than 30 points ahead consistently in poll, a range of poll bus in terms of her own rating, in our most cent poll she had a rating where 78% of people think she is doing a bad job, that is including seven out of ten people who voted conservative at the last election. recovering from that is going to be extremely difficult. with so many things coming down the track, with everything from a difficult winter to possible power cuts we could see the situation get even worse. as you say very difficult to turn round from those sorts of ratings, and what happen does your polling say about the gap between the conservatives and labour right now? between the conservatives and labour riaht now? ~ ., between the conservatives and labour riaht now? ~ . , ., , between the conservatives and labour rirhtnow? . , ., , , between the conservatives and labour riahtnow? . , ., , , ., right now? what it shows is that the t a . right now? what it shows is that the ta- is right now? what it shows is that the gap is consistent — right now? what it shows is that the gap is consistent but _ right now? what it shows is that the gap is consistent but it _ right now? what it shows is that the gap is consistent but it is _ right now? what it shows is that the gap is consistent but it is growing, i gap is consistent but it is growing, in has been a trend that has played out throughout the year, the conservative party has not been ahead in a published poll since the

turn of last year, you have to go back to december last year for the last time they were ahead. but in the most recent weeks and days we have seen an acceleration of that trend, where the labour lead has grown increasingly with every new poll. grown increasingly with every new oll. �* ., grown increasingly with every new all, �* ., ., , grown increasingly with every new oll. �* . ., , ., poll. and that lead, is that well be ond poll. and that lead, is that well beyond the _ poll. and that lead, is that well beyond the margin _ poll. and that lead, is that well beyond the margin of— poll. and that lead, is that well beyond the margin of error- poll. and that lead, is that well beyond the margin of error you | poll. and that lead, is that well - beyond the margin of error you would build in? yes beyond the margin of error you would build in? , ., , , build in? yes all polls ewe rightly sa are build in? yes all polls ewe rightly say are subject — build in? yes all polls ewe rightly say are subject to _ build in? yes all polls ewe rightly say are subject to a _ build in? yes all polls ewe rightly say are subject to a margin - build in? yes all polls ewe rightly say are subject to a margin of - build in? yes all polls ewe rightly i say are subject to a margin of error and that tends to be round plus or minus two to 3%, what is not is plus or minus 15%, so it is well outside the margin error. but and this is an important point to make, it is only a snapshot of public opinion at the time. we ask if there were a general election tomorrow, but there isn't going to be a general election tomorrow, if there were, it is likely that liz truss and jeremy hunt would lose their seats for example, but instead we don't know where thing also go. as i say there are perfectly good reasons to think the situation mehdi terse ——

deteriorate and a good perm today might be the start of recover trifor the conservative, will it be enough? that remains to be seen. that the conservative, will it be enough? that remains to be seen.— that remains to be seen. that is what the prime _ that remains to be seen. that is what the prime minister - that remains to be seen. that is what the prime minister is - that remains to be seen. that is. what the prime minister is hoping for, as she heads towards pmqs today, to slowly and steadily turn things around. it does feel like it might be a bit of a process which no doubt will be reflected and sorry, joe, just to interrupt, there you can see liz truss leaving downing street for this all—important pmqs, many prime ministers before her have written about how nervewracking this part of the parliamentary week is, the onslaught of questions from the opposition, and we are talking about prime ministers like tony blair for example, who have been deemed to be very effective public speaker, this by liz truss's own admission is not something she feels particularly comfortable with, but it is a very important set piece in the political

week. and given what has been going on, given the shredding of almost her entire policy by her new chancellor, it is important she puts in a credible and confident performance today... with good answers to the questions posed to her, and joe, just a final thought from you, obviously all the polling organisations have been involved in some pretty intense activity recently, to reflect how people think about dramatic events here at westminster, and the impact beyond the westminster bubble as we talk about lots more of that from you, i presume over the days and weeks ahead. ., , , ~ presume over the days and weeks ahead. . , , . ., �* ahead. that is is right. we don't have any polling _ ahead. that is is right. we don't have any polling that _ ahead. that is is right. we don't have any polling that reflects i ahead. that is is right. we don't i have any polling that reflects how people feel aboutjeremy hunt's people feel about jeremy hunt's announcement people feel aboutjeremy hunt's announcement of the most recent u turn, that will come out in the next couple of day, but it is trend people are interested in, will that

gap continue to increase or will liz truss be able to turn things round. joe, thank you very much indeed. keeping a close eye on the prime minister's progress towards pmq, she will be working with her most loyal team of advisers to prepare for it. just her third one since she took office, as i reflected a moment ago, just think what has happened in the last week alone. she had to sack her first chancellor kwasi kwarteng, the man described as her logical soulmate, the architect along with her, of heifer tax cutting economic agenda —— her tax. there is the prime minister's car arriving at parliament. the architect along with her tax cutting economic agenda, on

which she stood to become leader of the party and prime minister. and what she says and does, what mps here say and do, reflected right around the country, it will be interesting to get reaction from you, ourviewers, interesting to get reaction from you, our viewers, to what happens here in the house of commons at pmqs starting shortly, including in sunderland where my colleaguejoanna gosling is. there are choices to be made politically and there are very difficult choices that people round the country are take on a daily basis about how they manage the bills that i are facing and i want to run through some bbc research with you, because the bbc has carried out a surveys, commissioned a survey and the findings of that survey really show that this is

absolutely the top of the list of what people are thinking about on a daily basis. 90% of people asked in this survey of 4132 adults said they are trying to save money this winter, by delaying putting on the heating. the nearly half of people have said they are out of credit or have said they are out of credit or have self disconnected, that is, those who are on prepayment meters, 15% of people have reported they are in arrears on their bills, and of course we had that energy price guarantee that was due last two years and one of the political decisions that has bank of england taken it will only continue for six months and there will be a review, in terms of what people are spending on food, more than two thirds say they are heating out less and more than half are reducing the amount of food they are buying. that chimes with what i heard from people on the high street when i asked how the

cost of living crisis is affecting them and how it is making them feel. absolutely terrified we are going to be able to warm, and we are going to be able to warm, and we are going to be able to eat at the same time. put etrol in be able to eat at the same time. put petrol in the car. and _ be able to eat at the same time. put petrol in the car. and put _ be able to eat at the same time. put petrol in the car. and put fuel - be able to eat at the same time. put petrol in the car. and put fuel in - petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car. petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car- it _ petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car- it is _ petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car. it is crazy. _ petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car. it is crazy. everything i petrol in the car. and put fuel in the car. it is crazy. everything isi the car. it is crazy. everything is shootint the car. it is crazy. everything is shooting asme _ the car. it is crazy. everything is shooting asme electricity - the car. it is crazy. everything is shooting asme electricity pricesi the car. it is crazy. everything is - shooting asme electricity prices are through— shooting asme electricity prices are through the roof, they have more than _ through the roof, they have more than tripled in the last couple of months — than tripled in the last couple of months. i'm not working at the minute — months. i'm not working at the minute. we have health issues and it will be _ minute. we have health issues and it will be tight, really, watch every penny _ will be tight, really, watch every enn . �* ' ., will be tight, really, watch every ten“ . “ ' ., ., will be tight, really, watch every enn . �* ' ., ., ., will be tight, really, watch every enn .�* ' ., .,., , penny. awful. how do other people manate penny. awful. how do other people mana t e to penny. awful. how do other people manage to live. _ penny. awful. how do other people manage to live, with _ penny. awful. how do other people manage to live, with nothing? - penny. awful. how do other people manage to live, with nothing? i - penny. awful. how do other people| manage to live, with nothing? i was there, i've done that, i claim payments, so my, everything is in that, it is getting worse and worse. the house we live in and all of our cost of living is included in that, bills. ~' cost of living is included in that, bills. ~ , ., cost of living is included in that, bills. ~' , ., it's bills. like the showing. it's definitely _ bills. like the showing. it's definitely shopping. - bills. like the showing. it's i definitely shopping. everyone bills. like the showing. it's - definitely shopping. everyone is struggling- _ definitely shopping. everyone is struggling. this _ definitely shopping. everyone is struggling. this is _ definitely shopping. everyone is struggling. this is where - definitely shopping. everyone is struggling. this is where all- definitely shopping. everyone is struggling. this is where all the | struggling. this is where all the people who start to pinch now, because they can't afford it.

that is just a flavour of what people are saying to on the streets here in sunderland. with me is paul varley. enterprise northern rights which works with disadvantaged people who've struggled to find sustainable employment. i'm also joined byjuliet sanders, founder of north east charity feeding families which helps those experiencing food poverty. juliet food poverty, when we are hearing food prices are going up 14.6%, it is the sort of levels that were unimaginable not very long ago. it is not sustainable for people and even for us as a charity, our donations have plummeted this year, so we are having to buy in food to give to people, so we are depending on grants and funding, and corporate supporting us to do that, but

obviously our food bill has sky rocketed so we have this gap between less donation and hiring food prices. less donation and hiring food rices. ., . , it has prices. how much higher is it it has increased 10096. _ prices. how much higher is it it has increased 10096. what _ prices. how much higher is it it has increased 10096. what sort - prices. how much higher is it it has increased 10096. what sort of - prices. how much higher is it it has i increased 10096. what sort of people are comint increased 10096. what sort of people are coming there _ increased 10096. what sort of people are coming there your— increased 10096. what sort of people are coming there your door - increased 10096. what sort of people are coming there your door for - increased 10096. what sort of people t are coming there your door for help? peel don't come through our door, we are not a food bank so the way we operate, we support other local charity, schools and organisation because they are working with the people who are most in need and know who they are, so not even can access a food bank, so we are filling a gap by doing it slightly differently, but i think everybody�*s affected. it is notjust people who have been on benefits for a long time, it is people who have lost theirjob, had their hours reduced or arejust finding it very difficult to make ends meet. finding it very difficult to make ends meet-— finding it very difficult to make ends meet. ~ . . , , , ends meet. what are the issues facint ends meet. what are the issues facing the _ ends meet. what are the issues facing the people _ ends meet. what are the issues facing the people you _ ends meet. what are the issues facing the people you help, - ends meet. what are the issues i facing the people you help, paul? ends meet. what are the issues - facing the people you help, paul? we help the most vulnerable in society into employment and our mantra is to move _ into employment and our mantra is to move them _ into employment and our mantra is to move them closer to employment. but

the challenges are immense. you have rent increasing, energy increasing, food prices — rent increasing, energy increasing, food prices increasing, so fundamentally everything that is facing _ fundamentally everything that is facing somebody in the most challenging society, the most vulnerable in society, they are getting — vulnerable in society, they are getting blows, but they are continually getting blows and they have no— continually getting blows and they have no certainty for what is going to come _ have no certainty for what is going to come to —— going forward. the challenge — to come to —— going forward. the challenge ultimately is if they knew what was _ challenge ultimately is if they knew what was going to come, be it energy in six _ what was going to come, be it energy in six months' time being switched off. in six months' time being switched off food _ in six months' time being switched off. food prices, interest rate stability— off. food prices, interest rate stability which leads into social housing — stability which leads into social housing an housing cost but could plant _ housing an housing cost but could plan, they— housing an housing cost but could plan, they don't have certainty about — plan, they don't have certainty about what their benefits will be or how they _ about what their benefits will be or how they can get a job. job. we need to tackle _ how they can get a job. job. we need to tackle this framework of uncertainty. | to tackle this framework of uncertainty-— to tackle this framework of uncertainty. to tackle this framework of uncertain . ., ~ uncertainty. i was talking to people esterda , uncertainty. i was talking to people yesterday. and _ uncertainty. i was talking to people yesterday, and there _ uncertainty. i was talking to people yesterday, and there is _ uncertainty. i was talking to people yesterday, and there is a _ uncertainty. i was talking to people yesterday, and there is a mixed - yesterday, and there is a mixed picture, people have their own circumstances, but obviously there are some people who as you say, are unable to work, and they are very much dependent on what comes in from the government onna front. a lot of

people were saying they are just doing more and more work to try to keep up with the bills they are facing. keep up with the bills they are facint. �* , , keep up with the bills they are facim,�* , , , keep up with the bills they are facint.�* , , , , facing. ansley -- absolutely, they have to make _ facing. ansley -- absolutely, they have to make clear _ facing. ansley -- absolutely, they have to make clear choice, - facing. ansley -- absolutely, they have to make clear choice, do - facing. ansley -- absolutely, they| have to make clear choice, do they put food _ have to make clear choice, do they put food on — have to make clear choice, do they put food on the table, do they heat. there _ put food on the table, do they heat. there are _ put food on the table, do they heat. there are instances of people not wanting _ there are instances of people not wanting to — there are instances of people not wanting to have a shower because it costs _ wanting to have a shower because it costs money to turn the heating on. the up _ costs money to turn the heating on. the up shot— costs money to turn the heating on. the up shot is they have hygiene challenges which means when they go to an interview forer foments sake, they have _ to an interview forer foments sake, they have got, it is hard for them to get— they have got, it is hard for them to get a _ they have got, it is hard for them to get a job — they have got, it is hard for them to get a job when their hygiene isn't _ to get a job when their hygiene isn't what — to get a job when their hygiene isn't what it should be. they have other— isn't what it should be. they have other challengestor, get a job you have to _ other challengestor, get a job you have to be — other challengestor, get a job you have to be digitally enabled. enabled. the cost of a my right honourable friend. people don't have access— honourable friend. people don't have access to _ honourable friend. people don't have access to a _ honourable friend. people don't have access to a computer to upload a cv. with libraries shutting and access points— with libraries shutting and access points to — with libraries shutting and access points to use a computer, that is challenging, data costs, challenging. you know, there is all challenges — challenging. you know, there is all challenges that are coming left right— challenges that are coming left right and centre for people who are the most _ right and centre for people who are the most vulnerable and they need help _ the most vulnerable and they need hel. �* ., , the most vulnerable and they need hel.~ . , , help. and that is the practical challenges. — help. and that is the practical challenges, that _ help. and that is the practical challenges, that is _ help. and that is the practical challenges, that is not - help. and that is the practical challenges, that is not to - help. and that is the practical - challenges, that is not to mention what it must feel like when you are

feeling demoral lose hissed and that the point you need to try and pick yourself up if you are going to try and look for work. that yourself up if you are going to try and look for work.— and look for work. that is health related. and look for work. that is health related- lt _ and look for work. that is health related. it transpires _ and look for work. that is health related. it transpires into - and look for work. that is health | related. it transpires into mental health— related. it transpires into mental health channels, if you have stuck at home _ health channels, if you have stuck at home you have an isolation challenge, it plays with mental stability— challenge, it plays with mental stability and it lose into a negative spiral of downward depression and we have to lift people — depression and we have to lift people out of that and we try and tive people out of that and we try and give people confidence, we do confidence for life, confidence for interview — confidence for life, confidence for interview and build people's self esteem — interview and build people's self esteem up which boosts self efficacy _ esteem up which boosts self efficacy, it is important to lift people — efficacy, it is important to lift people up, that is we are trying to do in _ people up, that is we are trying to do in our— people up, that is we are trying to do in our own way.— people up, that is we are trying to do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders _ do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders thank _ do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders thank you _ do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders thank you 0 _ do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders thank you 0 you - do in our own way. paul, varley and juliet sanders thank you 0 you very | juliet sanders thank you o you very much. that is a message we heard from that audience in theic i —— nicky campbell studio debate when they were talking at what is the best thing in sunderland and the message was the community pulling together, and that solidarity through very very difficult times. let us go back to westminster,

annita. welcome back to hear that familiar sight of big ben and the clock tick on, just the third pmqs for liz truss and an eventful few occasions it has been for her, that is for sure, so much happening in the last week since her second pmq, getting rid of herfirst week since her second pmq, getting rid of her first chancellor kwasi kwarteng and her new chancellor, jeremy hunt, shredding most of that mini budget that programme of tax cuts on which she stood to be elected as leader and prime minister. here to look ahead to pmqs, and look at the political atmosphere... i'm joined byjim pickard, chief political correspondent, financial times, and sonia sodha, observer columnist and chief leader writer. good to have you with us. jim, hue

crucial is this pmq for liz truss, it is one event in the parliamentary week but it is quite a big deal isn't it? , ., ., , , isn't it? they are often presented as the make _ isn't it? they are often presented as the make or— isn't it? they are often presented as the make or break— isn't it? they are often presented as the make or break moment. isn't it? they are often presented t as the make or break moment for isn't it? they are often presented i as the make or break moment for a prime minister and i think the truth is even if she came out there and she was dazzling and witty and commanded the floor of the house of commons, it might buy her time but the underlying reasons why she is in such trouble won't go away. there is a huge fiscal black hole that is exacerbated by the mini budget, she has mps who support her in the summer or didn't, turning on her, and basically as long as the opinion polls put the labour party 30 or 35 points ahead of the conservatives or even 20 points ahead, that is something that mps won't sit round and wait for their demise at the next general election. the consensus in parliament is that it is all over for her but it could be day, week, months a year she is gone because of the rules. ., ._ , months a year she is gone because of the rules. ., , the rules. you say even if she came out and gave _

the rules. you say even if she came out and gave a _ the rules. you say even if she came out and gave a dazzling _ the rules. you say even if she came i out and gave a dazzling performance, the underlying problems are still there, even if she comes out and gives an ok performance, belter than recent interviews for example, have been judged to be, recent interviews for example, have beenjudged to be, then that recent interviews for example, have been judged to be, then that will be seen as a success by those close to her, perhaps? seen as a success by those close to her. perhaps?— her, perhaps? potentially i agree with jim, her, perhaps? potentially i agree with jim. i _ her, perhaps? potentially i agree with jim, ithink— her, perhaps? potentially i agree with jim, i think the _ her, perhaps? potentially i agree with jim, i think the significance l withjim, i think the significance of today— withjim, i think the significance of today is— withjim, i think the significance of today is it might affect the sequencing a bit but it doesn't change — sequencing a bit but it doesn't change the fundamentalales so change the fundamental.ales so perhaps— change the fundamentalales so perhaps if she gives —— fundamental, if she _ perhaps if she gives —— fundamental, if she gives _ perhaps if she gives —— fundamental, if she gives a — perhaps if she gives —— fundamental, if she gives a half decent performance, better than interviews she has— performance, better than interviews she has given to the bbc in recent days, _ she has given to the bbc in recent days. prays — she has given to the bbc in recent days, prays that might buy her time and preponderances —— mps might say let's see _ and preponderances —— mps might say let's see what happens when jeremy hunt gives— let's see what happens when jeremy hunt gives his hallowe'en budget. maybe _ hunt gives his hallowe'en budget. maybe we should wait and see, wait till christmas but i have to say the fundamentals which is the huge economic— fundamentals which is the huge economic problems and the polls and i economic problems and the polls and i have _ economic problems and the polls and i have to _ economic problems and the polls and i have to say once a prime minister has lost _ i have to say once a prime minister has lost that connection with the

public, _ has lost that connection with the public, to— has lost that connection with the public, to the extent that liz truss had and _ public, to the extent that liz truss had and her— public, to the extent that liz truss had and her poll ratings have sunk to record — had and her poll ratings have sunk to record lows after five—and—a—half six weeks _ to record lows after five—and—a—half six weeks in — to record lows after five—and—a—half six weeks in office, once that happens _ six weeks in office, once that happens it is difficult to get it back— happens it is difficult to get it back wand the public and conservative mps know that, they are worried _ conservative mps know that, they are worried about losing their seats and that will— worried about losing their seats and that will drive them to more of a performance. it that will drive them to more of a performance-— performance. it is interesting in that context, _ performance. it is interesting in that context, throwing - performance. it is interesting in that context, throwing down - performance. it is interesting in| that context, throwing down the gauntlet over the subject of frack to her mps and said back me on this, this is because labour is trying to take control of the agenda, put forward a vote on fracking, labour wants a ban, many conservative mps wants a ban, many conservative mps want a complete ban but liz truss is saying, her chief whip is saying this is a confidence matter. exactly, this will take place round 7.00 tonight. it is basically a trap by the labour party, they don't think they are going to win the vote. what they want to see is loads of conservative mps voting with the government to back fracking, and

labour has a load of attacked a veritys it lot put out saying this mp for the specific constituency backs fracking, this one backs fracking, when you look at the polling on whether the general public support fracking, they might think it is a good way to produce gas but it that don't want it in their own neighbourhood. most people don't want it happening 100 yards from where thrive and labour is exploiting this with this trap that liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked _ liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked into _ liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked into a _ liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked into a trap. - liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked into a trap. did - liz truss has walked into. you think she has walked into a trap. did her| she has walked into a trap. did her chief whip have any choice? had they 'ust said it chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is — chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is a _ chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is a free _ chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is a free vote _ chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is a free vote and - chief whip have any choice? had they just said it is a free vote and they - just said it is a free vote and they lost, that would be embarrassing, it is one of those situations that was lose—lose either way. t is one of those situations that was lose-lose either way.— is one of those situations that was lose-lose either way. i am keeping an e e on lose-lose either way. i am keeping an eye on the _ lose-lose either way. i am keeping an eye on the time _ lose-lose either way. i am keeping an eye on the time for _ lose-lose either way. i am keeping an eye on the time for you, - lose-lose either way. i am keeping an eye on the time for you, jim. i i an eye on the time for you, jim. i know you have to go. perhaps we will speak to you later.

sonia, for our viewers tell us about how prime ministers prepare for occasions like this? 50. how prime ministers prepare for occasions like this?— how prime ministers prepare for occasions like this? so, quite a lot of time goes _ occasions like this? so, quite a lot of time goes into _ occasions like this? so, quite a lot of time goes into preparing - occasions like this? so, quite a lot of time goes into preparing for- occasions like this? so, quite a lot. of time goes into preparing for what is essentially a half hour session of questions once a week, they spend a lot of time with various advisers, who specialists in their own subject because the prime minister has to be on top of everything that could come up. a lot of final with people who will rehearse the answers to questions, so they will play the leader of the opposition, the leader of other parties asking questions and they will go over the sort of response, liz truss is in a difficult position because it is hard to come up with gooded good answers when you have introduced a series of economic measures that tank the economy, that causes the pound to plunge, causes gilts to go up. that is all down to you and your

measures, your chancellor resigns, who u—turn on egg everything but that doesn't get you back to where you were. it is hard to come up with a good answer about why you did that and why you industrial the authority to be prime minister, so it is going to be prime minister, so it is going to be prime minister, so it is going to be a very tricky one for her. find to be a very tricky one for her. and the commons _ to be a very tricky one for her. and the commons packed ahead of pmqs as we can see, another difficulty for liz truss is that she has relied heavily on the energy support package, which was two years, and which yesterday, was cut to six months at least in the first instance, she doesn't have that top rely op, because she was going further, the government was going further, the government was going further than labour had talked about going in terms of an energy support package, so that has gone and she has relied on that and a few sort of stockances, hasn't she, so she has to demonstrate she can go beyond that i presume.— to demonstrate she can go beyond that i presume. absolutely, so one of her key attack _ that i presume. absolutely, so one of her key attack line, _ that i presume. absolutely, so one of her key attack line, at _ that i presume. absolutely, so one of her key attack line, at prime i of her key attack line, at prime minister's questions so far when labour have criticised her, she said

your energy package would be in place for six month, that has bun one of her standard response, she is not considered to be fleet of foot when it comes to these sort of performance, she relies he listen on stock answers and that is not available to her any more, so it think it will be really interesting to see what she comes up with when keir starmer puts the really obvious questions i think in the mind of voters which is why did you do this economic package which you had no mandate for that everyone said was going to cause the markets to run scared and left the country in a worst position, what answer is there to that? i think we will have to see. ., , . . to that? i think we will have to see. . . see. to bring it back full circle as we began. _ see. to bring it back full circle as we began, myself, _ see. to bring it back full circle as we began, myself, you _ see. to bring it back full circle as we began, myself, you and i see. to bring it back full circle as we began, myself, you and jim i we began, myself, you andjim chatting a few minutes ago, ultimately a lot of of mps have been made up their mind... do you agree

with that, do you think it is just a matter of timing that a significant number of mps are now saying we know what needs to happen, but there is perhaps a bit of disagreement about when it should happen. t perhaps a bit of disagreement about when it should happen.— when it should happen. i think the conversations _ when it should happen. i think the conversations that _ when it should happen. i think the conversations that mps _ when it should happen. i think the conversations that mps are - when it should happen. i think the conversations that mps are having now are similar to the ones they were having at the point where a lot of them had thought that boris johnson needed to go as prime minister, but they hadn't quite figured out what the sequencing was going to be, how it was going to happen, who were the candidates they would swing behind, it is the same sort of conversation. a lot of conservatives mps think to go to conservatives mps think to go to conservative mps and run a two month leadership election it is not feasible so they need to pick a new leader without doing that and so there needs to be a degree of consensus among conservative mps about how it is go to happen, who they will back, and those conversationses are poor and there

are lots of supporters various candidates and not all agreeing on who it should be. that is why it might take a while. a bit of moyes there as liz truss took her seat. can she pull off a turn round of turn rounds and claw her way back, in your estimation? not in my estimation no.- her way back, in your estimation? not in my estimation no. thank you ve much not in my estimation no. thank you very much sonia. _ very much sonia. thank you very much for your thoughts today as we look on at the packs chamber of the house of commons. where liz truss will be facing questions momentarily, a really important day for her. she has got to deliver those answers with confidence, with clarity, she has got to prove, i think in the eyes of many of her mps, that she can be agile in her responses...

there is a feeling that she has relied far too heavily on the energy support package which was, until yesterday, for two years, and has now been cut back to six months, albeit with the proviso that in advance of next april, the government would consider whether further support would be given to the most vulnerable. she no longer has that to work into her answers. she has been criticised for relying on a couple of stock answers and stock phrases in her responses. let us see what she does today. mr speaker, this morning i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others in addition to my duties in this house. i shall have further

such meetings later today. when the pountney dropped for the premise on monday and she realised her budget was responsible for crashing the economy, she should have come to this house to explain herself and apologised to the millions of people who will now be paying extra on her mortgage because of her mistakes. now she is here, can she tell us, given the chaos government has created, by the chancellor lost herjob but she kept hers? mr speaker, i have been very clear that i sorry and that i have made mistakes. but the right thing to do in those circumstances is to make changes, which i have made, and to get on with the job, and to be there for the british people. we have delivered the energy price

guarantee, we have helped people this winter and i will continue to do that. does the prime minister agree with me that local people and local councils are best placed to decide how many houses they need and where those houses should go? if she does, will she and the top—down approach to housing targets and reduce or preferably remove the powers of the planning inspectorate? my planning inspectorate? my honourable friend is absolutely right. we will abolish the top—down housing targets. mr speaker, we want decisions about homes, about infrastructure, driven by local people, not driven by whitehall, and thatis people, not driven by whitehall, and that is why we are setting up new, locally driven investment zones. tate locally driven investment zones. we now come to the leader of the opposition, keir starmer.

thank— opposition, keir starmer. thank you, mr speaker. a book is being written about the prime minister's time in office. apparently, it is going to be out by christmas. is that the release date or the title? mr speaker, i have been in office forjust under two months and i have delivered the energy price guarantee, making sure that people are paying £6,000 bills this winter. i have reversed the national insurance increase and i have also taken steps, and we will be taking steps to crack down on that militant unions. mr speaker, that is more of a record of action than the honourable gentleman and his 2.5 years in thejob. mr speaker, last week the prime minister ignored every question put

to her. instead, she repeatedly criticised labour�*s plan for a six month freeze on energy bills. this week, the chancellor made it her policy. how can she be held to account when she is not in charge? mr speaker, our policy is to protect the most vulnerable. i had to take the most vulnerable. i had to take the decision because of the economic situation to adjust our policies. i am somebody who is prepared to front up. i am am somebody who is prepared to front up. iam prepared am somebody who is prepared to front up. i am prepared to take the tough decisions. unlike the other but gentleman who has not done anything on businesses or done anything to say or protect people after one year. he has no plan. mr speaker, last week the prime ministers stood there and promised absolutely no spending reductions.

they all cheered. this week, the chancellor announced a new wave of cuts. what is the point of a prime minister whose premises don't even last a week? i can assure the right honourable gentleman that spending will go up next year and it will go up the year after. but of course, we need to get value for taxpayers money. the labour party has pledged hundreds of billions of spending pledges, none of which they have retracted. the honourable gentleman needs to reflect on the economic reality of his policies. mr speaker, those spending cuts are on the table for one reason and one reason only. because they crash the economy. and working people are going to have to pay £500 a month more on their mortgages and what is the prime minister's response? to

say she is sorry. what does she think people will think and say? that is all right, i don't mind financial ruin, at least she apologised. i do think there has to be some reflection of economic reality from the party opposite. the fact is that interest rates are rising across the world and the economic conditions have worsened. we are being honest, we are levelling with the public, unlike the honourable gentleman and what is the honourable gentleman doing about the fact that workers, train workers are again going on strike? the fact is, he refuses to condemn the workers we are bringing forward policies... mr speaker, we are bringing forward policies that will make sure our railways are

protected, people going to work are protected. he backs the strikers, we back the strivers. mr speaker, she is asking me questions because we are in waiting, they are an opposition in waiting. there is no getting away from this. millions of people are facing horrendous mortgage repayments and she has admitted it his/herfault. she should not have conducted an economic experiment on the british public but it is notjust her. they put her there. they are keeping her there. why on earth would anyone trust the tories with the economy ever again? i notice, mr speaker, everagain? i notice, mr speaker, he is ever again? i notice, mr speaker, he is not actually objecting to a single economic policy that the chancellor announced on monday. he is refusing to condemn the strikers. we are on

the side of working people. we are going to legislate to make sure we keep our railways open the other gentleman refuses to do anything. mr speaker, the only mandate she has ever had is from members opposite. it was a mandate built on a fantasy economics and it ended in disaster. the country has nothing to show for it except the destruction of the economy and the implosion of the tory party. i have the list here. 45p tax cut, gone. corporation tax cut, gone. 20p tax cut, gone. to your energy freeze, gone. tax—free shopping, gone. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend, the former chancellor, he is gone as well. they are all gone, so white she still here?

mr speaker, iam gone, so white she still here? mr speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter. i have acted in the national interest to make sure that we have economics abilities order! order! i am going to hear the prime minister~ _ order! i am going to hear the prime minister~ i_ order! i am going to hear the prime minister. i suggest that all members need to— minister. i suggest that all members need to hear the answer. mr speaker, i need to hear the answer. mr speaker, lam need to hear the answer. mr speaker, i am a fighter, not a quitter. we have delivered on the energy price guarantee. we have, we delivered on the energy price guarantee. we have delivered on national insurance. we are going to deliver to stop the militant trade unions disrupting our railways. the honourable gentleman has no idea. he has no plan and he has no

alternative. just sit down. can ijust say, he is obviously— just sit down. can ijust say, he is obviously the more popular choice. come _ obviously the more popular choice. come on. — obviously the more popular choice. come on, james grundy, you have a future! _ future! can we congratulate future! — can we congratulate on leads's recent promotion to the superleague, bringing millions to economy and furthermore she guarantee the women's team who will receive the number ten reception that they so richly deserve. ijoin my on about friend in congratulating lee century and is on their return to the super league.

haveit their return to the super league. have it the huge privilege of meeting the lionesses last week, a fantastic team who won a major tournament for us. we will host a downing street reception as soon as their training programme makes them available. t their training programme makes them available. ., ., ., , available. i look forward to my invite as well! _ available. i look forward to my invite as well! that _ available. i look forward to my invite as well! that has - available. i look forward to my invite as well! that has come i available. i look forward to my. invite as well! that has come to available. i look forward to my i invite as well! that has come to the leader— invite as well! that has come to the leader of— invite as well! that has come to the leader of the snp. thank you, mr speaker. afterten thank you, mr speaker. after ten u—turns in two weeks, we are left with a prime minister in office but not in power. and families are paying through the teeth for her mistakes. her latest broken promise has put pensioners in the front line of tory cuts. so, can the prime minister perhaps turned to her chancellor right now, get permission to make another u—turn, and committed to raising the state pension at the rate of inflation? i honestly don't know what the honourable gentleman is talking

about. we have been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple lock and i completely committed to it so is the chancellor. it is no surprise in that the prime minister's approval ratings are collapsing with an answer like that. the worst polling result for any prime minister in history. she has just thrown 12 million pensioners under the tory bus. it is notjust pensioners. last week alone... t pensioners. last week alone... i also want to hear him. it is i pensioners. last week alone... i also want to hear him. it is not i also want to hear him. it is not 'ust also want to hear him. it is not just pensioners _ also want to hear him. it is not just pensioners feeling - also want to hear him. it is not just pensioners feeling the i also want to hear him. it is not. just pensioners feeling the pain, also want to hear him. it is not i just pensioners feeling the pain, in the last week alone, inflation has risen to a 40 year high. mortgage rates are at the highest level since the potential crash and people's energy bills are about to rise to

more than £5,000. can the prime minister answer one simple question? why do she expect everyone else to pay the price for her failure? i don't think the honourable gentleman can take yes for an answer. i have been clear, we are protecting the triple lock. if the honourable gentleman is concerned about the economy, why does he continue to advocate for separatism, which will plunge the scottish economy into chaos's over the last couple of years, thousands of homes have been proposed or built in my constituency which puts a huge strain on a dangerous appointment. would my right honourable friend agree with me that morning to be donein agree with me that morning to be done in the telling process to make sure that when we have a large scale developments, we have more capacity in those vital services?

my in those vital services? my honourable friend is absolute right. when we build new houses, we need to make sure there are gp surgeries, schools, infrastructure and that is why we are introducing a new infrastructure levy to make sure more of the money from developers goes on supporting local committees. millions of family carers have been forced to cut back on food and heating one said, my son is incontinent and if we don't wash him incontinent and if we don't wash him in warm water several times a day, this will cause to physically decline. how do we pay for the gas to heat the water if we are currently at max budget? old people and carers are struggling already in this cost of living crisis, mr speaker, so when the prime minster guarantee that support for the vulnerable, including carer�*s vulnerable, including ca rer�*s allowance, vulnerable, including carer�*s allowance, will rise by at least today's inflation rate of 10.1%?

people are struggling, it is difficult at the moment and that is why we have put in place the energy price guarantee to make sure the typical household isn't paying more than £2500. it is why we have supplied an extra £1200 of support to the most vulnerable. i can assure the right honourable gentleman that we will always support the most vulnerable. they will be our priority. we have a proud military footprint, not less the cambrian patrol exercise which i visited last week. it is considered the olympic gold—medal and infantry training, attracting teams from across the world to compete in a 60, to march over two days in the brecon beacons. when the prime ministerjoined me in congratulating all those who took part, not least the team of gurkha

soldiers from the infantry battle school in brecon who took am a coveted gold—medal, further cementing their special place in the uk armed forces? ijoin my honourable friend in pointing everybody at brecon barracks who organises the exercise and patrol each year. it is a world—class training exercise and i congratulate the gurkha soldiers for their fantastic achievement for the gold—medal. their fantastic achievement for the gold-medal— gold-medal. well done. it took just _ gold-medal. well done. it tookjust five - gold-medal. well done. it tookjust five working | gold-medal. well done. i it tookjust five working days gold-medal. well done. - it tookjust five working days with it took just five working days with a prime minister to crash the pound, damage pension funds and send people's mortgage costs spiralling. her new chancellor may have reversed almost all of her policies but the damage has been done and we now face yet another round of tory cuts and austerities i would like to ask the prime minister and those sitting behind her why she still at the dispatch box and when will voters get their say on this disastrous

government? we are facing very, very difficult economic times. i took the decision i had to the interest of economic stability. what is important is that we work together, including with the snp, to get through this winter and grow the economy. the prime minister is to be commended for securing the passage of the northern ireland protocol bill through this house without amendment before the summer recess. can she confirm that it is the government's intention of that the bill should remain unamended and in particular, that the european of justice should have nojurisdiction in any part of the united kingdom? i am completely committed to the northern ireland protocol bill. it deals with a very specific issues we face in northern ireland, the free flow of trade and also making sure

that the people of northern ireland are able to benefit from being part of united kingdom. i can tell my honourable friend that any negotiations will reflect the same position that is in the protocol bill. we understand that this afternoon's boat on fracking is deemed a confidence about in the prime minister. can she give us any reason why her own backbenchers or anyone in this country can have confidence in this country can have confidence in her after her policies have caused chaos in the markets and wrecked the economy? we do face very difficult economic times. i have been honest about the mistakes i have made but what i don't apologise for is the fact that we have helped households through this winter with the energy price guarantee, the fact we have reversed the national insurance rise and the

fact we are taking action to get our railways running rather than being disrupted by the militant trade unions she supports. there has been a number of low points recently, including the republic of ireland's football team singing pro—ira songs in the changing room. we should never forget the sacrifice of those who paid the price to maintain the peace during the troubles. closer to home, recent events meant that spending is going to be more constrained than originally thought. may i encourage the prime minister to ensure that we retain compassion in politics in these decisions, including maintaining the link between benefits and inflation. but she do that? we are compassionate conservatives. we are compassionate conservatives. we will always work to protect the most vulnerable and that is what we

did with the energy price guarantee. we are going to make sure the most vulnerable are protected into year two and i am sure the chancellor has heard my other friends representations on the contents of the medium—term fiscal plan. like the public at large, i have supported the government in terms of the actions it has taken to support ukraine, not least because of what is at stake there. but right now, in order to attain that support, as the public deals with rising prices, inflation, mortgage costs and much else, ukraine take is a real and present danger and i'm afraid to say to the prime minister, she is now an active driver against that public support that has so unified many of us to do what needs to be done. so,

in a time where all and support of ukraine needs to be steeled, will she make sure that she commits from the dispatch box, that the economic and military support will not be another casualties under this prime minister? it was one of my first acts in office, to make sure the military support we give to ukraine is equal to the military support we gave this year we must make sure ukraine when. they can win it, they will win, and it must win. mr speaker, i would like to thank the prime ministerfor mr speaker, i would like to thank the prime minister for sticking mr speaker, i would like to thank the prime ministerfor sticking by her words and giving communities the final say on fracking. but as always, the devil is in the detail. can the prime minister assure me that local consent will be measured

independently and transparently and under no circumstances will fracking companies be directly engaged in assessing local consent? if people say no, that that view and that decision will be respected and acted upon by this government? i am very strongly in agreement with my i am very strongly in agreement with my honourable friend. i know this is something he care deeply about. i can assure him that we will consult on the robust system of local consent, give clear advice on seismic limits and safety before any fracking takes place. the consultation will consider all of the relevant people, the regional mayors, local authorities and parishes, as well as the concerns of those directly affected at my right honourable friend, the business secretary, will say more about this later today. privatisation does not work. it does not work for our nhs. we have

another amber alert in the nhs blood service. a service that this week's chancellor sold when he was health secretary, and it doesn't work for our postal service. royal mail taking 750 edmonton pounds last year yet our universal service obligation is at risk. workers pay conditions and 10,000 jobs are a threat. when the prime minster continue to let obscene amounts of profit be made while services are cut and stamp prices rise or will she lodge an inquiry into the gross mismanagement of royal mile? what we need is an efficient postal service that delivers for people across this country and that is what i am focused on, not making ideological points. when i was in business, it was a real privilege to employ very many talented, bright, young people. i always found that when you believe in somebody, when you gave them the

opportunity, they went on to thrive in their career. that is why tomorrow in north, i will be launching my new scheme, 100 apprenticeship challenge, to drive 100 new partnerships all over our rural constituency. with the prime minister please find notjust my dwp office, the district councils, the county councils and a lot of stakeholders who worked for over six months to deliver this fantastic scheme to drive growth and jobs for young people across my constituency? i do want to thankjulia and her team with a fantasticjob they are doing and also you as the local, sorry, the member of parliament. apprenticeships are a way, a fantastic way to learn and get experience and i am proud we have created a 5.1 million partnerships since 2010.

mr speaker, the prime minister's chief of staff is in hot water after lobbying on behalf of a libyan warlord and big tobacco. it turns out he is also lobbied for ppe giants. is it wise to have a lobbyist at the centre of downing street? mr speaker, all appointments in downing street or properly checked through the propriety and ethics process and that is the way that we do it in a completely impartial way. when my right honourable friend was a foreign secretary, i know that she was acutely aware of the importance of british soft power acting in our national interest. will she confirm today the promise we both made in 2010 when this government first came into office, that she will not balance the books on the backs of

the poorest people in the world? can i pay tribute to my right honourable friend the fantastic work he did as international development secretary and ayange proud that we have rebalanced our international development budget to focus more on humanitarian aid and more on women and girls and no doubt, more details will be set out in due course. the last tory prime minister was forced out after a series of dodgy dealings and failing to take responsibility for any of it. what is this prime minister getting the boot for? her plan that crashed the economy, forcing the rockies on communities that don't want it? will she do the decent thing and go and call a general election? i have taken responsibility and i have made the right decision in the interest of the country's economics

ability. every single member in this house will have constituents waiting for treatment within the covid—19 backlog. the health secretary's priorities are absolutely right, including heraim to priorities are absolutely right, including her aim to tackle the backlog is. can she reassure me that the government is committed to a series of elected hubs that we have promised, including at the royal hampshire county hospital in my constituency? my constituency? my right on above friend, the health secretary, has set out her plans to deliver on dealing with the covid—19 backlog and she will continue to work on that and make sure that we deal with what was a massive pandemic, creating a backlog. we will deal with it. since the mini budget, thousands of my constituents have been in mental anguish and despair. i recognise that the honourable lady has faced a

week of mental anguish and despair herself. she has had people angry with her, she has had people who mocked her, but having had that experience, what will she now do to improve the health care, the mental health care for people in this country so that the anguish that they face in the coming months is properly responded to and dealt with? the health secretary has set out a very clear plan of how we are going to deal with the backlog crated by covid—19, how we are going to make sure people get timely gp appointments and how we are going to improve on the services in our hospitals, including mental health services. the government is facing tough choices but people living with dementia base unlimited care costs and that is not a choice. can my

right honourable friend sure me that she is committed to social care reform to end that worry and relieve pressure on the nhs? yes, we are committed to social care reform. we do need to deal with those issues. it is always better to see a prime minister at her desk, rather than underneath it. now that she is here, i wonder if she could tell us why streak this house will be discussing legislation that will abolish vital protections on pension payouts, it will abolish our right to watch the olympics free of charge, and airline consumer laws. how is any of the retained law in the british interest? mr speaker, i think we have yet

another example of somebody who does not want to support the british public�*s decision to leave the european union in 2016. isn't it quite incredible, mr speaker, that six years after people voted to leave the european union, there are people who object to taking eu law of our statute books. i am a democrat, i respect what british people voted for. i suggest the right honourable lady does the same. 30 years ago, the westminster foundation for democracy was created out of the war in bosnia, so that democracies could flourish in freedom and prosperity come with it. this evening in your room we celebrate that anniversary but hearing directly from our country representative in ukraine, from the chair of the taiwanese foreign

affairs committee and the leader of the opposition in uganda, a good example of the range of contacts this cross cross—party body is working with. can i ask the prime minister if she agrees this is a vital contribution by our government and our people, to democracy round the world and will she encourage members round the house tojoin us this evening. the westminster foundation for democracy does a fantasticjob and i think we know from what has happened in ukraine, the appalling war perpetrated by vladimir putin just how precious democracy is, and how much we need to do, to work with our friend and allies to protect democracy round the world and i do encourage colleagues from all sides of the house, to attend the event tonight. that completes prime minister's questions, i will let the house clear~ —

soa so a pretty feisty session there, of prime minister's questions, as you would have expected today. we are going to give you some analysis that injust a moment, going to give you some analysis that injusta moment, but going to give you some analysis that injust a moment, but before going to give you some analysis that in just a moment, but before that, going to give you some analysis that injust a moment, but before that, i want to bring you one piece of breaking news, this is. coming from our political editor chris mason, and chris is saying that the bbc understands one of the prime minister's most senior advisers has been spending. his name is jason stein, he is a stephen paddock. and —— special adviser, he is to face a formal investigation by the propty and ethics team in whitehall chris has been told. to recap that jason stein a special adviser, one of the prime minister's most senior advisers has been suspended. chris mason the political editor saying he understand jason stein is to face a

form. investigation by the propty and ethics team in whitehall. which will bring you more on that and more analysis what that means very soon. but right now, let us turn to prime minister's questions. well, the prime minister declared during that session he was a fighter not a quitter, liz truss said the right thing for her to do, now, was to get on with thejob, thing for her to do, now, was to get on with the job, and of course, that is a line that she has been repeatedly using as she has battled through the last couple of days and the last couple of week, she said she wants to be allowed to get on within thejob, the problem she wants to be allowed to get on within the job, the problem for her is of course she has significant head winds because of the that disastrous response to her mini budget from the markets, the u—turns and then of course the biggest u—turn, from her new chancellor jeremy hunt who basically shredded almost all, not its entirety but almost all, not its entirety but almost all, not its entirety but almost all of that mini budget. keir

starmer on the attack during that pmq saying what is the point of a prime minister whose promises don't even last a week? let us get some thoughts of than session. i'mjoined byjim pickard — chief political correspondent, financial times and sonia sodha — observer columnist and chief leader writer. first of all on the broad question of how she performed, how did she do? ~ , ., ., do? think she tried to come out tuite do? think she tried to come out quite punchy — do? think she tried to come out quite punchy but _ do? think she tried to come out quite punchy but there - do? think she tried to come out quite punchy but there just, i do? think she tried to come out i quite punchy but there just, there aren't any lines she could come up with to respond to keir starmer�*s attack. and i thought it was interesting that she went back to some of her old attack lines so it was about trying to take a swipe at labour because of the strike, saying that labour supports striking workers etc, but the truth is that is really not what some people —— what is on people's mind at the moment. they quant foe know why there have been massive u—turn, she

didn't have anas sarwar. i thought it was interesting about what she said about the pensions triple lock, that felt like the big news. just about to say. _ that felt like the big news. just about to say, that _ that felt like the big news. just about to say, that yesterday, we had about to say, that yesterday, we had a hint from jeremy hunt, the new chancellor that the triple lock was potentially not safe, just to remind viewers it is that rule that says the state pension must rise by the about what she said about the pensions triple lock, that felt like the big news. just about to say, that yesterday, we had a hint from jeremy hunt, the new chancellor that the triple lock was potentially not safe, just to remind viewers it is that rule that says the state pension must rise by the highest of three measures "er inflation, the average wage or 2.5% and here we are, 24 hoursish later, and liz truss is saying, that she is absolutely committed to the triple lock and so is the chancellor, what did you think of thatjim? that lock and so is the chancellor, what did you think of that jim?— did you think of that jim? that is a bit did you think of that jim? that is a big financial _ did you think of that jim? that is a big financial commitment, - did you think of that jim? that is a big financial commitment, to i did you think of that jim? that is a big financial commitment, to the l big financial commitment, to the point _ big financial commitment, to the point where they are trying to reign back expenditure as far as they can, so it a _ back expenditure as far as they can, so it a big _ back expenditure as far as they can, so it a big financial commitment. it is also _ so it a big financial commitment. it is also the — so it a big financial commitment. it is also the latest in a few occasions we have had with the new government where they leave this vacuum, _ government where they leave this vacuum, where members of government can say— vacuum, where members of government can say we _ vacuum, where members of government can say we are _ vacuum, where members of government can say we are doing this unpopular or controversial thing and no—one

says— or controversial thing and no—one says no, — or controversial thing and no—one says no, we — or controversial thing and no—one says no, we are not, so they get bad headlines— says no, we are not, so they get bad headlines for— says no, we are not, so they get bad headlines for a day or two, they did this with _ headlines for a day or two, they did this with renters reform, the fact it was— this with renters reform, the fact it was up— this with renters reform, the fact it was up in— this with renters reform, the fact it was up in the air, but they had -ot it was up in the air, but they had got the — it was up in the air, but they had got the bad _ it was up in the air, but they had got the bad headline, the rap for from _ got the bad headline, the rap for from various charity, it is happening with waters doesn't environmental protection, privately the government is saying we don't khow— the government is saying we don't know where this is coming from but they are _ know where this is coming from but they are hot — know where this is coming from but they are not saying we have a firm direction _ they are not saying we have a firm direction and it is not what you have _ direction and it is not what you have read _ direction and it is not what you have read in the papers. it makes them _ have read in the papers. it makes them look— have read in the papers. it makes them look shambolic. so a strange focus grouo _ them look shambolic. so a strange focus group sonia, _ them look shambolic. so a strange focus group sonia, drip _ them look shambolic. so a strange | focus group sonia, drip something, drip feed something, see what the response is and pullback drip feed something, see what the response is and pull back if the response is and pull back if the response isn't favourable and do you think specifically on this issue of the triple lock on pensions with some of the her own mps saying the there is no way we would vote to remove that triple lock that, the prime minister has decided she has to make it clear today, that she is committed to it. it to make it clear today, that she is committed to it.— to make it clear today, that she is committed to it. it shows how weak her authority _ committed to it. it shows how weak her authority is. _ committed to it. it shows how weak her authority is, and _ committed to it. it shows how weak her authority is, and i _ committed to it. it shows how weak her authority is, and i agree - her authority is, and i agree completely with jim, it is her authority is, and i agree

completely withjim, it is a sign of a very chaotic administration, if essentially stories are being put out there and the prime minister's official spokesperson doesn't really appear to know what the answer is when they are responding to journalists and questions about it. it suggests an administration that doesn't know what they are doing and doesn't know what they are doing and doesn't have a clear line. i leaves the conservatives though in serious bind, because you have got the chancellor who is committed to making all these tax cuts asjim said, it is a huge financial commitment, to raise pensions by 10% in april, though, there is going to be a lot of pressure on the chancellor, and the prime minister, to say are they going to do the same for benefits, for working age benefits, for low paid parents on low incomes who get tax credits. the inflation data shows they are facing food prices going up by almost 15%, they need benefits to go up by those levels as well, so they are not being left worse off, so it is making this commitment on pensions,

is going to leave a lot less resource to do the same for vulnerable working age adults which, the prime minister said she was worried about in prime minister's questions today. we worried about in prime minister's questions today.— questions today. we are talking today about _ questions today. we are talking today about cross _ questions today. we are talking today about cross bbc— questions today. we are talking today about cross bbc news - questions today. we are talking i today about cross bbc news about questions today. we are talking - today about cross bbc news about the cost of living crisis, so people will look to see what help the government is going to give them, jim, where do you think this leaves liz truss with her mps, over the last couple of days she has been meeting various groups of backbenchers, where do you think her position is right now, how vulnerable is she?- position is right now, how vulnerable is she? she is still in olitical vulnerable is she? she is still in political limbo, _ vulnerable is she? she is still in political limbo, she _ vulnerable is she? she is still in political limbo, she had - vulnerable is she? she is still in political limbo, she had a - political limbo, she had a reasonable perm at prime minister's questions _ reasonable perm at prime minister's questions but the bar was set so low where _ questions but the bar was set so low where she _ questions but the bar was set so low where she looked shelf shocked. she only took— where she looked shelf shocked. she only took four questions and walked away _ only took four questions and walked away. today she was a bit better, a bit more _ away. today she was a bit better, a bit more rebust, she had a few attack— bit more rebust, she had a few attack lines against labour but the fundamentals is she is still behind the poll. _ fundamentals is she is still behind the poll, most mps would love to get rid of _ the poll, most mps would love to get rid of her— the poll, most mps would love to get rid of her if— the poll, most mps would love to get rid of her if they could find an alternative. we still from the the

cost of _ alternative. we still from the the cost of living crisis with rising mortgage rates, with an energy support— mortgage rates, with an energy support scheme that runs out in april— support scheme that runs out in april and — support scheme that runs out in april and we have a labour party which _ april and we have a labour party which is — april and we have a labour party which is going to be very very ruthless— which is going to be very very ruthless at blaming the tories for all of— ruthless at blaming the tories for all of these things, even when some of them _ all of these things, even when some of them are — all of these things, even when some of them are a factor, if not entirely— of them are a factor, if not entirely of global trends. and sonia, a word _ entirely of global trends. and sonia, a word on _ entirely of global trends. and sonia, a word on how- entirely of global trends. jifuc sonia, a word on how you thought keir starmer did? i sonia, a word on how you thought keir starmer did?— keir starmer did? i thought keir starmer was _ keir starmer did? i thought keir starmer was a _ keir starmer did? i thought keir starmer was a very _ keir starmer did? i thought keir starmer was a very good - keir starmer did? i thought keir starmer was a very good perm l keir starmer did? i thought keir - starmer was a very good perm from keir starmer actually. starmer was a very good perm from keir starmeractually. i starmer was a very good perm from keir starmer actually. i thought he, he had some really good lines in there, i particularly liked the line where he sort of talked about how the way that liz truss was questioning him about the state of the country made it feel like they are the government in waiting and liz truss is heading up the opposition in waiting so he add a few good lines like that, he god in all the key point, he started off with a greatjoke about liz truss's forthcoming book about liz truss, saying it is out in december, is that the title of the book or is it, you phone it will come out? sol think the labour team will be very

please with thatpms —— pmqs. thank please with thatpms -- pmqs. thank ou ve please with thatpms -- pmqs. thank you very much _ please with thatpms -- pmqs. thank you very much indeed. _ please with thatpms -- pmqs. thank you very much indeed. the _ please with thatpms -- pmqs. thank you very much indeed. the big - please with thatpms —— pmqs. thank you very much indeed. the big line coming out of that pmq was that announcement from the prime minister saying she was committed to the triple lock on pensions, so the highest of the figures we have at the moment, it is raising the state pension in line with either inflation, the average wage, or 2.5%, clearly the highest is inflation, 10.1% currently, so that is a big spending commitment and rememberjust is a big spending commitment and remember just yesterday, is a big spending commitment and rememberjust yesterday, her new chancellor, hersecond rememberjust yesterday, her new chancellor, her second chancellor, jeremy hunt, was putting a question mark over whether that commitment to the triple lock could be kept, so thatis the triple lock could be kept, so that is going to raise questions. let us find out what the response is to that news, and what people think about dealing with the general cost of living crisis and what the government has been saying, with my colleaguejoanna gosling in colleague joanna gosling in sunderland colleaguejoanna gosling in sunderland today. thank you. exactly, obviously the

very two clear sides of this, what is happening there in westminster in terms of the choices being taken, and how they are seen as a spending commitment, and how that is received in the country at large, in terms of the level of support that will be welcomed, from pensioners of course, with that news that pensions will be “p with that news that pensions will be up rated in line with inflation but for others, there is still uncertainty about what the political choices are going to mean for them, because not everything has been decided, so there are lots of questions still and it is very much uppermost in people's minds here and across the country, what exactly the cost of living means for them and their pockets, with for many people, their pockets, with for many people, their outgoings outstripping or putting enormous pressure on the income that they have. this morning there was a bbc debate hosted by nicky campbell on the cost of living and he heard from people here in sunderland, experts and politician, let us hear a bit of what was said.

a 65—year—old woman was crying because she couldn't use her toaster, that woman has been crying about the cost of living are yous not ashamed of a party that our older generation are crying, in fear of how they will survive and live, are yous not at shamed of that? it are yous not at shamed of that? it is not being ashamed it is trying to work— is not being ashamed it is trying to work out, — is not being ashamed it is trying to work out, i— is not being ashamed it is trying to work out, i really hate the fact there — work out, i really hate the fact there are _ work out, i really hate the fact there are people suffering the way that you _ there are people suffering the way that you have described, i didn't see that — that you have described, i didn't see that piece, and we have to do something — see that piece, and we have to do something about it. i we can't sit there _ something about it. i we can't sit there. ., . , ., ' there. you have been in power for12 ear, how there. you have been in power for12 year. how can _ there. you have been in power for12 year. how can you — there. you have been in power for12 year, how can you say _ there. you have been in power for12 year, how can you say we _ there. you have been in power for12 year, how can you say we have - there. you have been in power for12| year, how can you say we have trying to do something, you have been in powerfor12 years. to do something, you have been in power for 12 years.— to do something, you have been in power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those — power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those 12 _ power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those 12 year, _ power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those 12 year, in _ power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those 12 year, in the - power for 12 years. what we haven't had in those 12 year, in the lead - had in those 12 year, in the lead up, had in those 12 year, in the lead up. we — had in those 12 year, in the lead up, we haven't had two years when we switched _ up, we haven't had two years when we switched off... we up, we haven't had two years when we switched off- - -— switched off... we have 12 years of austeri . switched off... we have 12 years of austerity- how _ switched off... we have 12 years of austerity. how can _ switched off... we have 12 years of austerity. how can you _ switched off... we have 12 years of austerity. how can you defend - switched off... we have 12 years of. austerity. how can you defend that? every country in the world turned air their— every country in the world turned air their economy for two years, we spent _ air their economy for two years, we spent 408m — air their economy for two years, we spent lt08- - -_ air their economy for two years, we sent408... . . . spent 408. .. can you change the same drivel over spent 408... can you change the same drivel over and — spent 408... can you change the same drivel over and over _ spent 408... can you change the same

drivel over and over again _ spent 408... can you change the same drivel over and over again by _ drivel over and over again by blaming ukraine and blaming uke russia and blaming covid, you have beenin russia and blaming covid, you have been in powerfor12 years, 40% of children in the north east live in poverty. are you not ashamed of that? ., ., ., ., poverty. are you not ashamed of that? ., ., ., , that? no, what i am saying to you is with that we — that? no, what i am saying to you is with that we are _ that? no, what i am saying to you is with that we are trying _ that? no, what i am saying to you is with that we are trying to _ that? no, what i am saying to you is with that we are trying to act - with that we are trying to act targeting our support to those people — targeting our support to those eo - le. . . targeting our support to those --eole. . , ., targeting our support to those --eole. ., , ., people. there has not been enough been allowed _ people. there has not been enough been allowed to _ people. there has not been enough been allowed to say _ people. there has not been enough been allowed to say today - people. there has not been enough been allowed to say today about. people. there has not been enough| been allowed to say today about sup fort for what the government have done for people in this country. i accept that everybody�*s an individual, everybody has struggles and strife. i'm a pensioner i'm on benefits. ., ., , ., . benefits. how do you feel about the tri - le benefits. how do you feel about the triple pension _ benefits. how do you feel about the triple pension lock _ benefits. how do you feel about the triple pension lock going _ benefits. how do you feel about the triple pension lock going we - benefits. how do you feel about the triple pension lock going we don't l triple pension lock going we don't know what is _ triple pension lock going we don't know what is going _ triple pension lock going we don't know what is going to _ triple pension lock going we don't know what is going to happen. - triple pension lock going we don't| know what is going to happen. can triple pension lock going we don't l know what is going to happen. can i say what i am grateful about. you can. i say what i am grateful about. you can- i am — say what i am grateful about. you can. i am grateful— say what i am grateful about. you can. i am grateful that _ say what i am grateful about. you can. i am grateful that £650 - say what i am grateful about. you can. i am grateful that £650 was| can. i am grateful that £650 was civen out can. i am grateful that £650 was given out in _ can. i am grateful that £650 was given out injuly. _ can. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july, half _ can. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july, half of - can. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july, half of it - can. i am grateful that £650 was given out in july, half of it 326 i given out injuly, half of it 326 was given out. the other 324 comes out on 8th november, there is another £300 on top of the winter fuel allowance, that is £500, if you are over 80 you get 600, i have switched to variability account on

my energy, my bill came to £67, my bill was nil because the government gave me £66. you bill was nil because the government gave me £66.— bill was nil because the government gave me £66-_ l - bill was nil because the government gave me £66._ i am | gave me £66. you are grateful i am crateful gave me £66. you are grateful i am grateful for — gave me £66. you are grateful i am grateful for that _ gave me £66. you are grateful i am grateful for that what _ gave me £66. you are grateful i am grateful for that what they - gave me £66. you are grateful i am grateful for that what they are - grateful for that what they are doing. i accept that, everybody is different. there should be, someone should say they are grateful for what the government are doing for certain sections of society. well an alan was talking before prime minister's questions and in prime minister's questions and in prime minister's questions there was confirmation from the prime minister that the pensions triple lock will be up held. that means that pension also go up by the rate of inflation, it is measured in september, so currently the rate 10.1% —— %. so some reassurance for pensioners. let us talk about what is being done to support people through these very difficult times. support people through these very difficult times. joining me now are laura brewis, founder and director of social enterprise group we make culture and lorraine thornton,

who volunteers at pet charity paws for thought. your group isn't designed to help people through the cost of living crisis, it is about giving people creative confidence but in these times are you seeing what people are coming to you for an your work changing?— coming to you for an your work chanauin? , ., ., ., ., ,, changing? yes, so a lot of the work we do works _ changing? yes, so a lot of the work we do works with _ changing? yes, so a lot of the work we do works with communities, - changing? yes, so a lot of the work we do works with communities, in i we do works with communities, in various parts of sunderland, so we work with an organisation called more than grandparents, we work with victims of domestic abuse and we can see when we are going out to do sessions and lead workshops, things are getting tough. people need to come into warm space, people are experiencing food insecurity, we can see the need is rising. tell experiencing food insecurity, we can see the need is rising.— see the need is rising. tell us a bit more about _ see the need is rising. tell us a bit more about that, _ see the need is rising. tell us a bit more about that, and - see the need is rising. tell us a bit more about that, and what. see the need is rising. tell us a - bit more about that, and what people say and what you, what you witness? i think we really see, you know, people come to our music making sessions to sort of tell a story, what they are experiencing and we

can see, you know, the amount of monetary policy people have isn't enough, and we are, you know we are seeing schemes like the warm places scheme in the city, which is literally about making sure there is somewhere warm for people to go, and it really feels like, you know, it feels. will dickensian, so people are struggling. —— almost. are struggling. -- almost. ~ . are struggling. -- almost. ., , ., -- almost. what you offer, it is not necessarily — -- almost. what you offer, it is not necessarily practical— -- almost. what you offer, it is not necessarily practical support in - necessarily practical support in terms of giving someone help with their bills, or giving someone support with theirfood, their bills, or giving someone support with their food, but it is emotion, mental, wellbeing support, how important is that? it is emotion, mental, wellbeing support, how important is that?— how important is that? it is really, really important. _ how important is that? it is really, really important. you _ how important is that? it is really, really important. you know- how important is that? it is really, really important. you know e - how important is that? it is really, | really important. you know e there is many studies that show how effective music making is for mental health and wellbeing, and over the last couple of years, the communities here have really, really experienced really hard times, so, i suppose the thing that we do is go in and support them, to express themselves, develop creative confidence, develop skills, and just have some fun as well. keep

confidence, develop skills, and 'ust have some fun as well. keep morale u -. have some fun as well. keep morale up- exactly- — have some fun as well. keep morale up. exactly. thank _ have some fun as well. keep morale up. exactly. thank you. _ have some fun as well. keep morale up. exactly. thank you. morale - have some fun as well. keep morale up. exactly. thank you. morale is i up. exactly. thank you. morale is obviously something _ up. exactly. thank you. morale is obviously something that - up. exactly. thank you. morale is obviously something that is - obviously something that is absolutely vital and we are hearing it across the piece here, in sunderland. i was at one of the warm spaces yesterday, it is is a cafe, the betsyjenny cafe, it's a wellbeing centre set up by its founder, because he had received mental health support when he was going through a difficult time himself and he wanted it to be available for all people treely. over the last year with what is happening in the cost of living crisis it has been really vital, and, it is notjust about the practical support, and, it is notjust about the practicalsupport, it and, it is notjust about the practical support, it is about people being able to have an environment where they can go and they can talk about what they are expensing. let me bring in lorraine thornton,er a volunteer at pause for thought an animal charity based here in sunderland but operating across the north east. welcome.- in sunderland but operating across the north east. welcome. thank you. animal, the north east. welcome. thank you. animal. pets — the north east. welcome. thank you. animal. pets part _ the north east. welcome. thank you. animal, pets part of— the north east. welcome. thank you. animal, pets part of the _ the north east. welcome. thank you. animal, pets part of the picture - animal, pets part of the picture too, what is happening?- animal, pets part of the picture too, what is happening? think with the cost crisis _ too, what is happening? think with the cost crisis at _ too, what is happening? think with the cost crisis at the _ too, what is happening? think with the cost crisis at the moment - too, what is happening? think with the cost crisis at the moment it - too, what is happening? think with| the cost crisis at the moment it has had such huge impact on families, it

shouldn't be you have to choose between heating your home, or feeding your children, or giving up your pets but that is the reality. it is just to let people know, really, that there is help available, with neutering, to be able to support, and rather than just throwing the animals out on the street, if they speak toe the charities we are able to support them in which ever way, whether it be be with food from the food banks we can signpost that or it could be neutering animals, and giving them back to the owners. so neutering animals, and giving them back to the owners.— neutering animals, and giving them back to the owners. so what are you seeinu in back to the owners. so what are you seeing in terms _ back to the owners. so what are you seeing in terms of _ back to the owners. so what are you seeing in terms of abandon - back to the owners. so what are you seeing in terms of abandon pets? i seeing in terms of abandon pets? usually at this time of year we would have maybe 30, 40 cats in, currently we are at capacity with 900 cats who haven't be neutered, havened up pregnant and there is no homes for the kittens so they have all came in, we are inundated. small furry animal, ratsjust all came in, we are inundated. small furry animal, rats just getting put in shoe boxes and thrown out and

people usually at this time of year we would have maybe 30, 40 cats in, currently we are at capacity with 900 cats who haven't be neutered, havened up pregnant and there is no homes for the kittens so they have all came in, we are inundated. small furry animal, ratsjust all came in, we are inundated. small furry animal, rats just getting put in shoe boxes and thrown out and people ringing us constantly, with "i can't afford to look after this animal, i can't afford to keep this animal. i can't pay for the vet bills" so we are able to signpost to get the help that i need. 50 bills" so we are able to signpost to get the help that i need.— get the help that i need. so you take them _ get the help that i need. so you take them in, _ get the help that i need. so you take them in, is _ get the help that i need. so you take them in, is there _ get the help that i need. so you take them in, is there any - get the help that i need. so you i take them in, is there any demand for people to take them off your hand to gif them a new home? it is hand to gif them a new home? it is slower, hand to gif them a new home? it is slower. there _ hand to gif them a new home? it is slower, there will _ hand to gif them a new home? it 3 slower, there will be people who want animals but not with the amount that is out there, the amount of reproduction out there, with not neutering, i think the impact from covid, and people not being able to get access to the vets, and now, it is not people on benefits, it is normalfamilies, who both work, who have young families, it is everyone, can't afford to pay £130 to knew terse an animal, so then shea have kittens and they can't find homes for them, so they end up coming to the charities.— for them, so they end up coming to the charities. thank you very much. that is the — the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue _ the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue as _ the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue as well, _ the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue as well, it - the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue as well, it is - the charities. thank you very much. that is the issue as well, it is not i that is the issue as well, it is not just the very poorest in society, who are struggling under the level

of inflation we are talking about, 10.1 % is of inflation we are talking about, 10.1% is the latest inflation figure out today, it is affecting everybody across the piece, so we will stay here, in sunderland, for the rest of the day, bringing you plenty of coverage, right now, i will hand you back to the studio and rebecca. up to 45 babies may have survived with better care at one of england's biggest nhs trusts, a damning independent report has found. a panel was commissioned to review cases at east kent hospitals nhs trust from 2009 to 2020, and uncovered what's been called a "pattern of recurring harm". in the last hour, a news conference has been held by the chief investigator into the east kent scandal. dr bill kirkup said he was frustrated at all the maternity scandals of the last decade or so. i want to say at the outset that this cannot go on. we cannot go on

treating each individual service failure, as though it is a one off. never to be repeated. isolated failure, because experience says if thatis failure, because experience says if that is what we do, it will pop up again somewhere else. in the time to come, and i do not want to be in the position ever again of having some families who have been harmed, telling us about service failure nasse the nhs should have known about first, and did not. well. nasse the nhs should have known about first, and did not.— about first, and did not. well, the trust has said _ about first, and did not. well, the trust has said it _ about first, and did not. well, the trust has said it apologises - about first, and did not. well, the trust has said it apologises to - about first, and did not. well, the trust has said it apologises to all. trust has said it apologises to all thoseit trust has said it apologises to all those it failed. dr kirkup went on to say that mothers were not listened to, and the treatment of many women and babies at east kent hospitals university nhs foundation trust had been harrowing, callous, arrogant, dismissive and hostile. what has happened in east kent is deplorable and harrowing, we have numerous instances of care that was not given to the right standards, consistently failed to meet

standard, with deaths and significant harm in schools of families. it had 202 families that came forward, in 97 deaths, injuries or other harm could have been different, if care had been given to the standards accepted nationally. in 45 of the 65 stillborn and newborn babies who died, they could have had a different outcome had care been given to the standards accepted nationally. as well has the, we found that there had been frequent instances where significant harm was caused to people's wellbeing by the unkind and callous way on occasions they were treated, and some have been deeply affected by that, many have been deeply affected by that. we haven't found that there has been a single clinical cause of the fail uk, what we found was four underlying themes

that led directly to these problems, the first is extreme failures of team working, as you know, maternity care has to be delivered by groups of professionals, working together, from different background, from different professions, they have to work together effectively, they did not, and there are various reasons for that, not, and there are various reasons forthat, including not, and there are various reasons for that, including lack of trust and respect, but there is also inescapably the fact that professionals can sometimes get the impression that they are working to different goals. it might be to reduce the amount of intervention or it might be to not reduce the amount of intervention, a team that works to different goals in my view is not a team. secondly, failures of professionalism, of compassion and of kindness, people were dealt with rudely, arrogantly and with hostility and you will find numerous examples in the report. women were not listened to, they reported a

range of things that should have been listened to, for example, that they were in labour for example their membranes hat ruptured, for example the baby's movement had altered and they were disregarded and that led directly to instances of harm. the same failures of compassion and listening happened after devastating outcomes, after the death of a baby. people were streeted with dismiss sieveness and denial. not only does that cause people deep distress, it prevents learning so the same set of mistakes kept happening over again because people were not properly looking and learning. on at least eight separate occasions over a ten year period, the trust board was presented with what should are been inescapable signals there there were serious problems in the maternity unit. they could have acknowledged that, they could have acknowledged that, they could have acknowledged that, they could have investigated, they could have put it right. that started in

2010, the first instance was in 2010, the first instance was in 2010, but they didn't. in every singing case they found way to deny there were problems, to disregard, to say that on the whole service were ok or at least good enough and they were wrong to do that, as a result of that, the pattern of behaviour and of harm continued unaltered through the entire period of the investigation, to the end of 2020. it need not have happened like that. and that was dr bill kirkup. more on that and the rest of the day's newsing up at one. now here is the weather with chris fawkes. hello again. today is a much cloudier day, it is windy and for some of you there is rain round as well. the rain so far today has been heaviest across the west this is belfast area with thick cloud working its way in, low pressure to the south—west, dominating the weather picture, it is throwing up this band of rain as

i say, mostly in the west but the rain particularly heavy in northern ireland, where there is a risk of thunderstorms mixed in with this clump of rain. it will be working its way through as we go through the afternoon, so heavy rain, widespread here. across wales there will be a few patches of light rain in the west, maybe a few spot in the the south—west but otherwise a lot of dry weather, a lot of cloud and gusty wind, gusts into the '30smph, 40s round some of the coastal areas, overnight we have another band of rain pushing northward across the country, it will be another mild night with temperatures into double figure, tomorrow's forecast is a conundrum about this one, because this area of low pressure, this part of the weather front is developing and it will push heavy rain across portugal, spain and a big clump of rain will work across the uk but there is some uncertainty about where the heaviest will be. some models keep it in eastern answering

land where other models develop this system a bit more so it could be more widespread across parts of england and scotland. either way it looks western areas will have the best of the relatively dry weather but it will probably be cloudy again, and still fairly brisk winds, for the end of the week our area of low pressure is still there. it is blocked from moving through, by this area of high pressure across europe, so this low stays spinning round slowly, close to the british isles, friday, we see further band of showers ex end tending from the low, from the south—west. some will be heavy, widespread, a bit of thunder mixed in and it will continue to be quite windy, but very mild, temperatures about 20 degrees in norwich, that is round five degrees celsius above average for this statement of the year. the unsettled weather continues to the weekend, with that low pressure bringing fairly brisk wind and plenty of showers round as well. some continuing to be quite heavy. bye.

today at i: we're live in sunderland, finding out how businesses, families and households are coping with the cost of living, as prices rise at their fastest rate in 40 years. an increase in food prices pushed inflation above 10% in september. the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. children not being able to eat and things like that. the prime minister confirms that pensions will rise in line with the inflation figure — as she faces questions in the commons for the first time since the chancellor u—turned on her economic plans. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend,

the former chancellor, he's gone as well.