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this is bbc news. i'mjoanna gosling live today in sunderland. the headlines... inflation in the uk has returned to the ao—year high it hit earlier this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer prices index, is at 10.1%, driven mostly by rising food prices. and i'm ben brown at westminster, where liz truss told mps that she's committed to maintaining the triple lock on pensions but wouldn't say if benefits would rise with inflation, and she came underfire in herfirst pmqs since her economic u—turn. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend, the former chancellor, he's gone as well.
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they're all gone, so why is she still here? cheers mr speaker... jeers mr speaker, lam a fighter, not a quitter. and in other news... harrowing and callous — a damning report is published into maternity care at east kent hospital trust. the chief investigator says women weren't listened to. we had 202 families that came forward. in 97, deaths, injuries or other harm could have been different if care had been given to the standards accepted nationally. russian president vladimir putin declares martial law in the four regions of ukraine which it annexed last month. they'll be expected to work with russia to boost the war effort. and, how long do you sleep?
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researchers say that at least five hours sleep a night may cut the chances of multiple chronic health problems if you're over 50. hello and welcome to bbc news with me, joanna gosling, in sunderland and ben brown in westminster. we're here today to talk about the rising cost of living and how it's affecting you and your family. we have been answering questions on bbc news about how it is affecting you and your family because the latest figures out today shows that inflation has now gone back up to the levels we saw in the summer, that 40 the levels we saw in the summer, that a0 year high. the headline
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inflation rate is 10.1% but behind the headline rate, we can see that the headline rate, we can see that the cost of food in particular has gone up really dramatically, 1a.6% over the last year. today, we want to know how it is affecting you. and good afternoon from westminster — where liz truss has faced questions from mps in the house of commons this lunchtime for the first time since the almost complete reversal of her economic plan. ms truss has described the decision to drop her package of tax cuts as "painful". so the politicians taking decisions, the people taking decisions, difficult decisions. let's remind ourselves of those inflation figures announced today. inflation now stands at 10.1% — that's a measure of average prices between september 2021 and september 2022. in other words, if you paid £100 for a variety of products in september last year,
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you're now paying on average £110.10 for the same products this year. some prices went up more than others. food and nonalcoholic drinks rose by 1a.6% even though petrol and air fares went down. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity explains what's driven today's rise in inflation. pension, £1a0 a week. how do you live on that? in sunderland, just like every other town in the country, pensioners are increasingly struggling to get by on state pensions, whichjust like benefits for people of working age, last went up byjust 3.1%. prices are now rising more than three times as fast. pensioners have been demanding a bigger rise. i think it's about time something was done about pensions. they missed the triple lock last year and it should be on this year. i'm a pensioner as well. the cost of living is going up all the time.
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the rich are getting richer- and the poor are getting poorer. i've never known it in my lifetime. children not being able to eat. we are all getting used now to price shocks like bread and cereals up 1a.5%, meat up 1515.3% and milk, meat up 15.3% and milk, cheese and eggs up 2a%. that hits hardest for the poorest families who spend a larger chunk of their incomes on food. in this cost of living crisis, those poor enough to collect universal credit have seen their incomes drop in real terms below pre—pandemic levels. food prices are surging, partly because supplies couldn't meet demand as the global economy recovered from the pandemic, especially after the war in ukraine disrupted the global supply of wheat and sunflower oil. and now, because devaluation means you now need more pounds to buy imported food, priced in dollars or euros. the uk now has worse inflation
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figures than any of the top seven advanced economies. most economists think inflation, the rise in the cost of living, hasn't yet hit its peak and that it will accelerate to around 11% in the coming months. but they are also forecasting that after that, it should drop back, so the cost of living will still be much higher but it won't be rising quite as fast. but if the government doesn't keep subsidising energy bills beyond the next six months, that may not happen. while we had thought it would then start to come down maybe in the middle of next year, now that we don't. .. now that energy prices might go back up again in april, it's possible you get another spike and inflation stays higherfor longer. putin is now losing ground on another front of his war, his attempt to weaponise gas prices. they have now fallen by a third since their peak. commodity traders now think there is an oversupply which could bring wholesale energy prices down further. a dim light of hope perhaps, visible at the end of a long, dark inflationary tunnel. andy verity, bbc news.
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despite difficult financial times, sunderland has become home to lots of new businesses in the past few years and benefited from investment in the city centre and coastal redevelopment. an analysis of companies house and 0ns data by inform direct found 1,587 new companies were formed in sunderland in 2021. the bbc�*s sunderland reporter andy watson has been to meet some of the city's entrepreneurs. for many people, sunderland is an attractive place to live. and importantly, for the local economy, somewhere to start a business. circa 1 million through the door in the 12 month period is pretty special. the stack at seaburn opened in 2020. it's become a hub for local businesses along the coast, despite difficult financial times. all costs have gone up, so utilities, packaging, food, labour. so it is a concern.
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however, we're not seeing any drop—off in sales. ijust came up with the idea of the self—service baths. walk in service, you don't need an appointment, where owners can come off the beach and bath and dry their dog. it's really busy. seven days a week, it's available, throughout the year. this year we have seen a struggle but we'll come through it. people mostly come here for a bite to eat and a couple of drinks. butjust around the corner, a young entrepreneur has found her niche. yeah, it's brilliant... started out young when i was 19. yeah, over the moon that i came into the industry so young, because i feel having the client base that i have now, watching it grow over the last year and a half, it's something i'm really proud of. as someone who's been born and raised in sunderland, i'd heard that mackie�*s corner was the posh end of the town, but in recent years, it's been forgotten about and neglected. but now, it's back. an upmarket gentlemen�*s outfitters opened just last year.
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nice to meet you. hang your coat up there. oh, thank you, cheers. no bother at all. how's things? very good. you know, that amazing brickwork, high ceilings, the fantastic curved windows, but again, just a real opportunity to get involved with the redevelopment of the city. have you got it in another colour as well? well, i'm 62 and this is the highest level of investment i've seen probably since the late 1960s and it's long overdue. so i think better times ahead. the city is also focusing on investing in the growth of the tech sector. at sunderland software city, they've helped launch more than 100 new businesses since 2020. i'm currently looking at a photo frame and butterflies are flying out of the frame... augmented and virtual reality tech has been adapted by start—ups here. it's like a rainbow here! i was reaching out for things that were not really there. we actually have a lot of young people come through our immersive lab that we have and part of this kit that you're wearing is used by young people to excite them,
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inspire them about careers and pathways into stem and to kind of show them the possibilities of tech and stem jobs. so although experts predict an uncertain future, the view from the businesses we visited is that bright times are ahead. andy watson, bbc news, sunderland. joining me now is local musician, david brewis, they were nominated for mercury prize in is they were nominated for prize in is are n are tricky,| zaretricky, (think, zaretricky, ithink, like saretric’kyr, ithink, like a things are tricky, i think, like a lot of people worrying about energy bills, you get to the end of the month, you know, cutting back and back and —mm comes along, - when comes along, you can then comes along, you can make
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meet. you g to ends meet. i mentioned you nominated here, i mentioned you were nominated for mercury you for the mercury music prize, you have had critical success, you to in minded. was we h "mama " we could run important to us that we could run our career from important to us that we could run our careerfrom home. we have our own studio. that has always been very important to us. the huge advantages of being in a place like sunderland is that the space is still quite cheap. in other cities, we might have struggled to have the studio space that we can just use all the time. in sunderland, that has been possible, although obviously, we are worrying about energy bills there as well. it is quite a big space. but we will find
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a way. i quite a big space. but we will find a wa . , , , , ., ., a way. i guess the flip side of that is the cost — a way. i guess the flip side of that is the cost of _ a way. i guess the flip side of that is the cost of living _ a way. i guess the flip side of that is the cost of living things - a way. i guess the flip side of that is the cost of living things that - is the cost of living things that you are talking about which are specific to the business that you do, where an appeal to keep you here but some people also talk about sunderland as feeling forgotten and left behind, talking about actually, the cost of living crisis isn't new here. . . the cost of living crisis isn't new here. ., ., ~ here. yeah, i mean, ithink certainly — here. yeah, i mean, ithink certainly since _ here. yeah, i mean, ithink certainly since the - here. yeah, i mean, ithink certainly since the financial| certainly since the financial crisis, and then the austerity that followed that, you know, sunderland is a working class town, it has got a lot of poverty, it has got a lot of people who don't have a cushion against those kind of impacts on just daily spending. sol against those kind of impacts on just daily spending. so i don't think this cost of living crisis is a brand—new thing. it feels more
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extreme. i think there's a lot of creativity in the community, finding ways to make things better for people without very much money. but that has been really stretched. it is certainly not a good model for, you know, how you would like to run things. i think it would be much easier if there was a lot more money coming in from elsewhere, if there were morejobs, all of those coming in from elsewhere, if there were more jobs, all of those things which would make a difference. hoar which would make a difference. how do ou which would make a difference. how do you feel — which would make a difference. how do you feel about _ which would make a difference. how do you feel about where sunderland is going? do you feel about where sunderland is uuoin? ~ , . do you feel about where sunderland is oiiin? ~ , ., ., is going? um, i think there is a lot to be positive _ is going? um, i think there is a lot to be positive about _ is going? um, i think there is a lot to be positive about because - is going? um, i think there is a lot to be positive about because therej to be positive about because there have been these ambitious moves to improve the place, try new things. i think there is a resilience to people in sunderland because of these years of struggle, and, you
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know, everything since the decline of heavy industry, with this brief respite in the blair years where the university expanded. but it is tough, it is tough.— university expanded. but it is tough, it is tough. thank you for “oinin tough, it is tough. thank you for joining us- _ tough, it is tough. thank you for joining us. that _ tough, it is tough. thank you for joining us. that creativity - tough, it is tough. thank you for joining us. that creativity and i tough, it is tough. thank you for| joining us. that creativity and the community david was talking about is something that has very much been a theme here because we have been talking notjust about theme here because we have been talking not just about the difficult choices in difficult situations that people are facing but the support thatis people are facing but the support that is out there for them and it is that is out there for them and it is that kind of sense of community and warmth in that, that people are really finding very valuable and there is that support out there. and just a reminder you can find lots of information, advice and support around the rising cost of living and lots more on today's other stories on bbc.co.uk/news and on the bbc news app. that's all from us here in sunderland for the time being.
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we have had a look at the impact on the economy and we will have plenty more later. let's look at the politics now. let's join ben at westminster. thanks, joanna. well, amid the economic chaos of recent weeks, liz truss has taken part in herfirst prime minister's questions since sacking her original chancellor and replacing him withjeremy hunt, who drove a coach and horses through her economic plan. as well as last month's controversial mini budget which so spooked the financial markets. liz truss told mps that she and the chancellor remain "completely committed" to the triple lock on pensions, which sees them rise in line with inflation, despite downing street refusing to commit to it earlier in the week. the labour leader sir keir starmer asked, "what's the point of a prime minister whose promises don't last a week?" from westminster, damian grammaticas reports. is this your last prime minister's questions? a little over a month into her premiership,
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she is a prime minister shorn of her authority. the programme liz truss promised has been stripped almost bare, so every appearance now is a test for her. a book is being written about the prime minister's time in office. apparently it's going to be out by christmas. is that the release date or the title? laughter. i have been in office forjust under two months and i have delivered the energy price guarantee, making sure that people aren't paying £6,000 bills this winter. i have reversed the national insurance increase and i've also taken steps and we will be taking steps to crack down on the militant unions. being the butt of opposition jokes can be toxic for a prime minister, so liz truss tried to turn the tables and asked the labour leader about strikes on the railways. mr speaker, she's asking me questions because we are a government in waiting and they are
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an opposition in waiting. he attacked the government for having crashed the economy and now planning spending cuts. why on earth would anyone trust the tories with the economy ever again? i notice, mr speaker, he is not actually objecting to a single economic policy that the chancellor announced on monday. he's refusing to condemn the strikers. we're on the side of working people, we are going to legislate to make sure we keep our railways open. the honourable gentleman refuses to do anything. sir keir starmer then listed all the policies liz truss has been forced to junk. a5p tax cut, gone. corporation tax cut, gone. his own benches enjoyed that. two year energy freeze, gone. tax—free shopping, gone. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend,
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the former chancellor, he's gone as well. they are all gone, so why is she still here? cheers mr speaker... jeers mr speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter. i have acted in the national interest to make sure that we have economic stability. prime minister. order. the speaker had to quieten a noisy chamber but the stability of pensions worries many. just yesterday, the prime minister's spokesperson couldn't say if the government would keep its promise to increase it in line with inflation. the latest broken promise has put pensioners in the front line of tory cuts, so can the prime minister perhaps turn to her chancellor
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right now, get permission to make another u—turn and commit to raising the state pension at the rate of inflation? prime minister. i honestly don't know what the honourable gentleman is talking about because... we have been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple lock and i am completely committed to it, so is the chancellor. but liz truss would not give the same assurance that benefits will also go up in line with inflation. and with doubts about her swirling there are many in the opposition and her own party looking to capitalise on her weakness. damian grammaticas, bbc news. let's talk to our political correspondent helen catt. she said, "i'm a fighter, not a quitter." you wonder if that was a message to her own tory mps, some of whom want to get rid of her? yes, iuite a
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whom want to get rid of her? yes, quite a lot — whom want to get rid of her? yes, quite a lot of— whom want to get rid of her? yes, quite a lot of them _ whom want to get rid of her? yes, quite a lot of them want _ whom want to get rid of her? yes, quite a lot of them want to - whom want to get rid of her? i'eis quite a lot of them want to get whom want to get rid of her? isis quite a lot of them want to get rid of her, according to them privately, or certainly don't think she will be there to lead them into the next election as she told the bbc earlier this week that she would be. so yes, i think that was an attempt at a display of strength, if you like, saying she is a fighter, not a quitter, that she intends to stay on despite much of her programme of government having been overturned. yes, i think you are right, it is a message to the backbenches. and yes, i think you are right, it is a message to the backbenches. and in terms of what _ message to the backbenches. and in terms of what she _ message to the backbenches. and in terms of what she said _ message to the backbenches. and in terms of what she said on _ message to the backbenches. and in terms of what she said on the - message to the backbenches. and in terms of what she said on the triple | terms of what she said on the triple lock on state pensions, how much of that was a surprise in terms of saying she was committed to keeping the triple lock?— the triple lock? well, it has been interesting. _ the triple lock? well, it has been interesting, the _ the triple lock? well, it has been interesting, the debate - the triple lock? well, it has been interesting, the debate about. the triple lock? well, it has been| interesting, the debate about the triple lock over recent days. it was a manifesto commitment the conservatives made. the triple lock was suspended temporarily last year and it currently is suspended but when that was done, the government was really clear it was a temporary suspension and it would remain for the rest of the parliament and it is one of those issues that gets a lot of traction on the conservative backbenches, one mp i spoke to
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earlier suggested it would be mad to renege on the triple lock. i think what we had ended up with was that when the chancellor was asked about this when the prime minister's official spokesman had been asked about this, they had talked about protecting the vulnerable but they had not said in clear words like liz truss did today that they were committed to keeping the triple lock and under the terms of the triple lock, it has three measures by which pensions after rise, by the highest of the three, and this year that would be inflation so it commits them to raising state pensions by them to raising state pensions by the rate of inflation which is 10.1%. i think it was one of those things that they decided they had to come out and be clear about. the prime minister's official spokesman told journalists after pmqs that the chancellor and the prime minister had discussed it this morning and agreed the position that she then made clear in the commons at lunchtime. they would not be drawn, though, on whether or not the prime minister had overruled the chancellor on this. find minister had overruled the chancellor on this. �* , ., ,, , chancellor on this. and 'ust talk us throuih chancellor on this. and 'ust talk us
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through what * chancellor on this. and 'ust talk us through what is h chancellor on this. and just talk us through what is happening - chancellor on this. and just talk us through what is happening later i chancellor on this. and just talk us through what is happening later in | through what is happening later in the comments because we have got, we gather, a vote on issues related to fracking, which are being seen as a confidence vote. this fracking, which are being seen as a confidence vote.— confidence vote. this is called an opposition _ confidence vote. this is called an opposition day — confidence vote. this is called an opposition day motion _ confidence vote. this is called an opposition day motion which - confidence vote. this is called an i opposition day motion which means that labour gets to pick what is debated and what it has done is to put forward a motion about fracking, which of course we know is another one of those flashpoint issues on the conservative backbenches. the conservative manifesto said they would not lift the ban on fracking, the moratorium on fracking. liz truss has said that she wants to, where there is local content so it does have tension on the conservative backbenches but the way labour has done this is to put forward a motion that would allow them to take control of government business for a day, to try to then push through a motion that would ban fracking. what the conservative whips have told their mps is that this has become a confidence vote. in a confidence vote, usually mps that voted against the government would find that they lose the weight. what is interesting about
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this, though, is that under the strict terms of a confidence vote, what will also usually happen is the prime minister, if the government does, would resign and go to the king and recommend a successor or ask him to dissolve parliament and call a general election. the prime minister's press secretary was asked about this by generous and he said the prime minister is not resigning if they lose that vote later. it sounds like this is a confidence vote perhaps not in the strictest form but perhaps a vote, a test of loyalty with added threat of punishments, if you like. but what it does do is expose the position, the perilous position that liz truss is in in terms of trying to get other bits of her policy agenda through. if you have to go in this heavy on an opposition day motion, that suggests that you do need to rebuild some authority within the party. eitherway, labour is rebuild some authority within the party. either way, labour is pretty thrilled about this because sir keir starmer�*s spokesman at lunchtime was saying that what the tory whips had done was in effect give them a two—for—one offer where conservative mps could vote against notjust
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their opposition to fracking but also could show their opposition to the prime minister.— the prime minister. thank you for “oinini the prime minister. thank you for joining us- _ the prime minister. thank you for joining us. helen _ the prime minister. thank you for joining us. helen catt— the prime minister. thank you for joining us. helen catt in - joining us. helen catt in westminster, there. (os that's all from us here at westminster for the time being, back to you in the studio. up to a5 babies might have survived, had they received better care at east kent nhs hospitals trust — that's one of the findings of a damning independent review. a panel looked at more than 200 cases at the trust between 2009 and 2020 and found that the outcome could have been different in nearly half. it said the hospitals often provided care that was "suboptimal" and led to significant harm. dr bill kirkup, who led the inquiry, said staff had failed to take notice of women when they raised concerns. and i want to stay at the outset that this cannot go on. we cannot go on treating each individual service failure as though it is a one—off,
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never to be repeated, isolated failure because experience says, if that is what we do, it will pop up again somewhere else in the time to come. and i do not want to be in a position ever again of having some families who have been harmed telling us about service failures that the nhs should have known about first and didn't. take ta ke to ba cco take tobacco from bbc south—east gave us an update. the take tobacco from bbc south-east gave us an update.— take tobacco from bbc south-east gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirku- gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirkup did _ gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirkup did when _ gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirkup did when he _ gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirkup did when he came - gave us an update. the vez thing dr bill kirkup did when he came into i bill kirkup did when he came into them to talk to the waiting media was describe the pain, the raw emotion and the anger that he was seeing from families where he had just come from giving them details of that report. many families believe they were treated by contempt with the trust and were blamed themselves for what had happened and many believe they were lied to. today, in the last few minutes, the chief executive of the trust spoke on camera with a wholehearted apology. i trust spoke on camera with a wholehearted apology. i want to say sor and wholehearted apology. i want to say
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sorry and apologise _ wholehearted apology. i want to say sorry and apologise unreservedly . wholehearted apology. i want to sayj sorry and apologise unreservedly for the harm _ sorry and apologise unreservedly for the harm and suffering that has been experienced by the women and babies who were _ experienced by the women and babies who were within our care, together with their— who were within our care, together with their families that is described in today's report. these families— described in today's report. these families came to us expecting that we would — families came to us expecting that we would care for them safely, and we would care for them safely, and we failed _ we would care for them safely, and we failed them. we must now learn from and _ we failed them. we must now learn from and act on this report. for those _ from and act on this report. for those who— from and act on this report. for those who have taken part in the investigation, for those who we will care for— investigation, for those who we will care for in— investigation, for those who we will care for in the future, and for our local— care for in the future, and for our local communities. i know that everyone — local communities. i know that everyone in the trust is fully committed to doing that. in the last few years. _ committed to doing that. in the last few years, we have worked hard to improve _ few years, we have worked hard to improve our— few years, we have worked hard to improve our services and have invested — improve our services and have invested to increase the number of midwives— invested to increase the number of midwives and doctors, and staff training — midwives and doctors, and staff training and in listening to and acting — training and in listening to and acting on— training and in listening to and acting on feedback from the people who receive our care. while we have made _ who receive our care. while we have made progress, we know that there is more _ made progress, we know that there is more for— made progress, we know that there is more for us _ made progress, we know that there is more for us to do and we absolutely accept _ more for us to do and we absolutely
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accept that — more for us to do and we absolutely accept that. now that we have received — accept that. now that we have received the report, we will read it in full— received the report, we will read it in full and — received the report, we will read it in full and the board will use its recommendations to continue to make improvements so that we are providing _ improvements so that we are providing safe, care that patients expect _ providing safe, care that patients expect and deserve. —— high quality care _ expect and deserve. -- high quality care. , ., , ., ., care. many families will hear that but not necessarily _ care. many families will hear that but not necessarily be _ care. many families will hear that but not necessarily be convinced | but not necessarily be convinced that the trust can make the changes. they have heard statements like that before in the last few years and they will really question the chief executive of whether that is capable. dr bill clark upset he want to see changes notjust to east kent but other maternity departments around the country. he wrote the morecambe bay report in 2015 and we recently had the publication of the shrewsbury and telford report by donna 0ckenden and there's a new investigation under way in nottingham. these problems exist in maternity departments across the country but today's report is particularly damning in east kent. the trust has a huge amount of work to do to gain the confidence of the
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community. to do to gain the confidence of the community-— to do to gain the confidence of the communi . ., ., ,, ., ., to do to gain the confidence of the communi . ., ., «i ., ., ., community. thanks to mark norman for that. now it's time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes. it isa it is a much cloudier day and windy as well, gus across inland areas running into the 30s mph, a0s around the coast and some rain mostly affecting western areas but the weather will be particularly wet in northern ireland, with rain probably heavy and thundery for a time here. otherwise, a lot of dry weather for eastern areas of the country and it is going to be a mile day once again with temperatures peaking into the upper teens. with temperatures peaking into the upperteens. 0vernight, more rain with temperatures peaking into the upper teens. 0vernight, more rain in the forecast, a batch of rain pushing northwards and eastwards, so some wet weather overnight, staying mild with temperatures 10—1a. tomorrow, more rain on the cards but a bit of uncertainty. the most likely place we will see heavy rain will be across eastern england but we could see the system develop a bit more and if that happens, we could get rain working in a bit more across parts of northern england and into parts of scotland as well. where the rain turns up, it is
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likely to be heavy but otherwise, another mild day.
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hello. this is bbc news. the headlines. inflation in the uk has returned to the a0 year high it hurt earlier this summer. the rate, as measured tjy this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer price index is at 10.1%, driven mostly by rising food prices. harrowing and callous. a damning report published into maternity care at east kent hospital trust. the chief investigator says women were not listened to. we had 202 families that came forward. in 97, deaths, injuries or other harm could have been different if care had been given to the standards accepted nationally. russian president vladimir putin declares martial law in the four regions of ukraine which it annexed last month. they'll be expected to work
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with russia to boost the war effort. researchers say that at least five hours sleep a night may cut the chances of multiple chronic health problems if you're over 50. sport now, and a full round—up from the bbc sport centre. a busy night of premier league action ahead of us, five games in total including manchester united versus tottenham at old trafford. spurs boss antonio conte says he believes united remain a "monster" in world football. he says he's excited to see his team test themselves tonight. united is one of the best teams in the world. yes, he is trying to bring his idea onto the pitch and i
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think also, the club are doing well in the transfer market. well liverpool are hoping to continue their season revival. their 1—0 win over champions manchester city on sunday was their first premier league victory since august. they welcome west ham tonight knowing they can't afford any more slips ups. when you create a start like we did, and we did that, at that moment in the season that you realise in the seasonit the season that you realise in the season it means from now on they are all finals, and it's already a few weeks ago we realised that. i'm not sure if we can give any more effort than we put in, because we are at 100% and that is a natural barrier, but yes, it's very important. a stunning comeback has kept ireland's dreams of progressing in the men's t20 world cup alive. with a target of 177, the six wicket win over scotland saw ireland's highest ever successful t20 run chase.
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curtis campher and george dockrell shared a stand of 119 to get ireland home with an over to spare. meanwhile, the west indies are a step closer to the super 12s having bowled zimbabwe out in their match, beating them by 31 runs. all four team in group b have one win from their first two games. there's a serious blow to england's hopes in the tournament as bowler reece topley has been ruled out with an ankle injury, just three days before his side's opener. the injury is understood to have happened when topley rolled his ankle during a fielding drill. england are waiting for organisers to ratify his replacement. at the men's rugby league world cup, wales begin their campaign this evening in pool d against the cook islands at the leigh sports village. they're looking to end a winless run at the world cup that stretches back to the 2000 tournament when they reached the semi—finals.
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the teams have met twice before with each side taking a win. wales only have two full time professionals in their 2a man squad. finn russell has been left out of the squad for scotland while james ritchie has been named captain. 26—year—old ritchie is co—captain of edinburgh and led to scotland alongside ali price alongside tom bell last year. he was unavailable for the first match against australia as it is outside the test window, but the racing 92 player has been left out of the entire series. the former wasps owner and music mogul chris wright has given an emotional reaction to the club's demise , calling it a family that's died. under wright's ownership wasps won 11 trophies in 11 seasons between 1997 and 2008, including two european cups.
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wasps have gone into administration with the loss of 167 jobs. they're the second club forced into administration in three weeks, following worcester warriors. both face automatic relegation from the premiership. i know the tradition of all of the ex—players, i know even going back to the amateur era. a lot of those players are still around. this is all family, and it is a family that has died. and it may never be seen again. i think the chances are it will never be seen again, because when it goes, it loses its share and right to participate at the top table of rugby. finally the ten thousand metre records set by eilish mccolgan in the 2022 great scottish run have been invalidated after the course was found to be one hundred and fifty metres short. the commonwealth games champion ran what was a new british record and surpassed her own european mark by finishing in 30 minutes 18 seconds.
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great run, who are behind the race, said "human error" led to an area not being laid out in line with agreed plans. that's all the sport for now. thank you. here in sunderland, as part of our ongoing coverage on the cost of living, bbc news is asking people from towns and cities around the uk how they are coping — and providing support and advice from our experts. sunderland is one of 12 different locations that we will be visiting to speak to households, businesses and families to find out how the rise in living costs is affecting you. joining me now are sheinez stanfield, managing partner at oxford terrace and rawling road medical group in gateshead. she is passionate about social prescribing and quality improvement.
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and also with me is dr george rae, a tyneside gp and chair thank you of the british medical association's north east regional council. for joining forjoining us. what are the issues you are seeing now. what is going on in terms of people coming through the doors of the practices on what their needs are, sheinez? i’sre the doors of the practices on what their needs are, sheinez? i've been a iractice their needs are, sheinez? i've been a practice manager _ their needs are, sheinez? i've been a practice manager for _ their needs are, sheinez? i've been a practice manager for 15 _ their needs are, sheinez? i've been a practice manager for 15 years - their needs are, sheinez? i've been a practice manager for 15 years in i a practice managerfor 15 years in gateshead and we have been through the austerity measures, brexit, the pandemic and all of those things caused challenges, so i think people in the north—east have been disproportionately affected by inequalities and the cost of living rise is made that works for us and we have huge problems with people not being able to heat their houses, not being able to heat their houses, not being able to heat their houses, not being able to eat and many, many people are coming to the practice because they have a social need that impact their health, so we have to think differently about managing those people. find think differently about managing those people-— think differently about managing those people. think differently about managing those ieoile. . , ., those people. and those impacts are on ih sical those people. and those impacts are on physical and _ those people. and those impacts are on physical and mental— those people. and those impacts are on physical and mental health. - on physical and mental health. absolutely. we see mental health problems across all age groups now,
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young people, teenagers, everyone affected and we are seeing almost every other person in the practice with some kind of mental health or anxiety disorder going on. is with some kind of mental health or anxiety disorder going on.- anxiety disorder going on. is that related to the _ anxiety disorder going on. is that related to the pandemic- anxiety disorder going on. is that related to the pandemic as - anxiety disorder going on. is that related to the pandemic as well, | anxiety disorder going on. is that i related to the pandemic as well, are you saying people across all ages are being affected by cost of living, and if so, why? i are being affected by cost of living, and if so, why? i think it's both. living, and if so, why? i think it's both- my son _ living, and if so, why? i think it's both. my son was _ living, and if so, why? i think it's both. my son was at _ living, and if so, why? i think it's both. my son was at university i living, and if so, why? i think it's| both. my son was at university for two years during covid and for the first year he was locked in his room on his own with no support and if you think about other children who were away from family and not being able to get food and medication having the anxiety of dealing with this thing going on around them, i think that has carried through and what we see with older people particularly, older people were isolating the 12 months and if you think about the physical impact on the health of being locked up in a house on their own with no social contact, completely isolated, and others who have been through bereavement, we are dealing with huge amounts of the after effects of
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bereavement. indian families where you had families in india and they were worried about members of the family being buried instead of cremated, and vice versa, all of those things have caused anxiety and the extension of the bereavement period, so we have to work with those people as well.— period, so we have to work with those people as well. george, as we io throu i h those people as well. george, as we go through these — those people as well. george, as we go through these difficult _ those people as well. george, as we go through these difficult times, - go through these difficult times, it's a really important factor that people's resilience is not where it might have been if covid had not appeared. bud might have been if covid had not a- ieared. �* might have been if covid had not a- ieared. . ., might have been if covid had not a- ieared. i ., appeared. and i agree with everything _ appeared. and i agree with everything sheinez - appeared. and i agree with everything sheinez has - appeared. and i agree with. everything sheinez has said. appeared. and i agree with - everything sheinez has said. we are in an— everything sheinez has said. we are in an economic crisis at the present timei _ in an economic crisis at the present time, but _ in an economic crisis at the present time, but if— in an economic crisis at the present time, but if this is not resolved we are going — time, but if this is not resolved we are going to— time, but if this is not resolved we are going to be into a huge health crisis _ are going to be into a huge health crisis and — are going to be into a huge health crisis and i— are going to be into a huge health crisis and i think it is very apt and _ crisis and i think it is very apt and opportune that you are here in the north—east of england because when _ the north—east of england because when we _ the north—east of england because when we look at inequalities in health. — when we look at inequalities in health, we score very badly as far as inequality is concerned and you look at _ as inequality is concerned and you look at deprived areas and you lived in the _ look at deprived areas and you lived in the north—east of england, your health_ in the north—east of england, your health would be worse than in other areas. _ health would be worse than in other areas. for— health would be worse than in other areas, for example an equally deprived — areas, for example an equally deprived area in the london area.
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and if— deprived area in the london area. and if you — deprived area in the london area. and if you look at the longevity, it is about _ and if you look at the longevity, it is about five years less, so we've known _ is about five years less, so we've known about inequalities for a long time and _ known about inequalities for a long time and that is not news. the news is we _ time and that is not news. the news is we have _ time and that is not news. the news is we have not done enough about it in years— is we have not done enough about it in years gone by, and of course, everything — in years gone by, and of course, everything at the present time, sheinez— everything at the present time, sheinez and i should be talking about— sheinez and i should be talking about levelling up, just talking about — about levelling up, just talking about that but what we are talking about _ about that but what we are talking about is _ about that but what we are talking about is the fact there is not enough _ about is the fact there is not enough money about and people will not be _ enough money about and people will not be getting the food they want. i am a _ not be getting the food they want. i am a doctor and i go and see blogs, and there _ am a doctor and i go and see blogs, and there are people with diabetes and there are people with diabetes and all— and there are people with diabetes and all of— and there are people with diabetes and all of the food she should be eating _ and all of the food she should be eating to— and all of the food she should be eating to make it such that her diabetes — eating to make it such that her diabetes is better, and she doesn't have the _ diabetes is better, and she doesn't have the money and she can't do that _ have the money and she can't do that that— have the money and she can't do that that is— have the money and she can't do that. that is what we should be talking — that. that is what we should be talking about, levelling up and making — talking about, levelling up and making sure that in this part of the world _ making sure that in this part of the world and — making sure that in this part of the world and other parts of england where _ world and other parts of england where there is deprivation and lack of money— where there is deprivation and lack of money that people actually get the help— of money that people actually get the help so they get their health as iood the help so they get their health as good as— the help so they get their health as good as it — the help so they get their health as good as it can be. you the help so they get their health as good as it can be.— good as it can be. you are clearly frustrated — good as it can be. you are clearly frustrated by _ good as it can be. you are clearly frustrated by what _ good as it can be. you are clearly frustrated by what you _ good as it can be. you are clearly frustrated by what you are - good as it can be. you are clearlyl frustrated by what you are seeing, and what you are seeing people
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dealing with. what are you thinking about where this goes on the longer—term impact of this? we have seen the medium and longer term impact of covid, but where does this go? impact of covid, but where does this i o? . impact of covid, but where does this io? . ., , , ., go? where it goes is that the difference between _ go? where it goes is that the difference between living - go? where it goes is that the difference between living in l go? where it goes is that the l difference between living in an go? where it goes is that the - difference between living in an area like this— difference between living in an area like this and a more affluent area will be _ like this and a more affluent area will be worse, that is what is going to happen — will be worse, that is what is going to happen and i, as a doctor, i feel it is the _ to happen and i, as a doctor, i feel it is the politicians, if they don't realise — it is the politicians, if they don't realise that it is getting the finance _ realise that it is getting the finance right on the economy right, i finance right on the economy right, i can't _ finance right on the economy right, i can't do _ finance right on the economy right, i can't do that. i will do my best. all ican't do that. i will do my best. all of— ican't do that. i will do my best. all of my— i can't do that. i will do my best. all of my colleagues, all of the people — all of my colleagues, all of the people who work in general practice, in hospitals, in social care, we all do our— in hospitals, in social care, we all do our best— in hospitals, in social care, we all do our best but unless the politicians get it right and we get the economy right, people get the proper— the economy right, people get the proper resources in areas like this, we will— proper resources in areas like this, we will do — proper resources in areas like this, we will do our best but we will never— we will do our best but we will never be — we will do our best but we will never be able to totally health circle — never be able to totally health circle i — never be able to totally health circle. ., ,, ., circle. i mentioned, sheinez, that ou are circle. i mentioned, sheinez, that you are passionate _ circle. i mentioned, sheinez, that you are passionate about - circle. i mentioned, sheinez, that you are passionate about social. you are passionate about social prescribing, not medical intervention but somebody coming in with difficulties they are dealing
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with difficulties they are dealing with and you will send them down other routes, perhaps social interaction, physical interaction and that, obviously will help someone when they are doing that, but at the end of the day, they are going back too often a difficult situation at home. how much of an impact does social prescribing have? in our practice we've been socially prescribing for a long time because we've been thinking as the cost of living rises hit people and individuals, you can'tjust think about their medical conditions, you have to factor the whole person, so this person that doctor ray was talking about with diabetes, they can'tjust think about talking about with diabetes, they can't just think about that but everything else in their life and what is happening with their home and have they got heating, the right food, are they able to exercise and do they have the social interactions and what we do is have a conversation with the person about what is important to them and then we work with them in developing a plan about the things that are important to them and the type of
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things i am doing in gateshead is getting actively involved with a food bank and we've always been involved with the food banks and when i've been a practice manager, all of those things have got worse so what we need to do is think about how we connect and galvanise the system around that patient or persons needs and then get the social interactions. we are developing the warmer places and we have to use some of the produce from a practice allotment to teach people how to cook in the warm place and we have come together to have meals to be warmed during the day but they have to go home to a cold house at night and i was reading somewhere that people will be frightened of dying at home because they cannot have the heating on, so there's been pressure on hospices and it's that type of thing, how we can think about how we manage.- type of thing, how we can think about how we manage. thank you very much. it's interesting _ about how we manage. thank you very much. it's interesting what _ about how we manage. thank you very much. it's interesting what you - about how we manage. thank you very much. it's interesting what you are - much. it's interesting what you are saying about allotments because we were talking about those earlier as well with a food bank where they have an allotment going to promote
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sustainability going forward and it's something that's been done with businesses as well and sometimes they are providing areas where local produce is being grown for the benefit of the people working there, so it's something that is spreading out, notjust in sunderland but other areas as well and all of these things are being developed in particular with the cost of living hitting hard. we were also hearing about the warm spaces. around the country councils are giving money to buildings that can offer a warm space to people through the cost—of—living crisis. in sunderland there are 55 of them. one is the betsyjenny cafe. it's a well—being centre set up last december, offering free counselling and activities to people who are struggling, i visited it yesterday. it's said, in difficult times, look for the people who are helping. the betsyjenny cafe is a hub of care and kindness — offering warmth, a listening ear and wellbeing support that is transformative for the people who find their way here.
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i come here to have a cup of coffee with some... with another group of people. it gets me out the house for a bit more, warmer here. and we've got our own little room out the back where we'll sit and talk about, like, other issues that we've had in the past. and, like the cost of living and that and this is, for me, this is escape. when i bought the building about four years ago, i hadn't decided what i wanted to do with it. steven founded the place because he wanted the support he received following the loss of both of his parents and his son to be something others could have free access to. something different, something where i could put something back into the community... now, with the cost of living crisis hitting hard, some people are coming herejust to keep warm. we've just, luckily enough, been awarded a grant by sunderland city council to be a warm space, which will enable us to have heating on all day, every day for the next few months for anybody and everybody in the local area just to come in and sit down,
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have a chat and keep warm. we had a couple yesterday were in all day doing a jigsaw, so they don't have to buy drinks all day, they can just have one drink and just sit there or... and we are a warm space. so when they're here doing a jigsaw, it's the sort of thing that they might normally do at home but right now they can come here and they don't have to have their heating on? yes, and then they're not on their own. julie's been volunteering here for ten months and she gets as much out of supporting others as she puts in. i suffered from depression for a long time and it helped me to do something. it helped me, like, to use my experience and help other people, and that keeps me well, by doing things. if i was stuck in the house 2a/7, i'll be no good. but it helps me for somewhere to come and to help others. kindness is the currency
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this cafe runs on. you don't know what people are going through. you know, people can be walking around and be having a really hard day and you don't know about it, but working in here, you know, they're coming in, they'll often have a chat and tell you what's on their mind. and, you know, ithink it's important they've got places like this to go to. the cost of living problems are not going to go away any time soon. but at least this is a place people can get some respite and feel the warmth of their community. the cost of living crisis is affecting almost everyone. many families who may once have considered themselves financially comfortable are now having to make hard choices. florist lisa mitchinson, has decorated rooms for the queen. now, she's working in a way she never thought she would. 0ur north of england correspondent fiona trott went to meet her. the morning commute. from the outside, people think, "oh,
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what's she got to worry about?" well, we have everything to worry about. that's why lisa now works from her shed. my business mortgage was more than £1,000 a month. then you've got the heating costs, you've got the electricity. you know, you've got the management, you've got the travelling, you know, travelling to your business and from your business, then supporting all of your staff. in making the change that i've done, you know, we have managed to save more than £30,000 a year. and the work van is used for everything. lisa sold her car this year because of the cost of living crisis, and she has to limit the deliveries she makes. this is my trusty van. we've had herfor several years now. we're not changing her any time soon. we use herfor all of our deliveries. so we only do local delivery because of the cost of fuel. we have to be really mindful of that. so just local deliveries only. and wherever she goes, the conversation is the same.
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morning! here is your pumpkin. 0h, beautiful. i bet you people are staying longer, are they? they are, they're coming in and sometimes they're here for two, three hours. i think because the heating's on, it's warm, we get a lot of older clientele in. the cost of living affecting us all around. the ovens are on day and night. we do the cooked meats for the retail side. we make the pease pudding, the black pudding, we do all of the pies. so our gas bill is through the roof. the cost of the ingredients have gone up. we're just trying to think of various ways where we can save a little bit on the overhead because we want to keep everybody injobs, but we just need that footfall of customers to continue coming through the door. i am worried because i'm a widow and ijust have a widow's pension. and the cost of living has gone up quite dramatically. with everything that you buy in the supermarket has gone up by 20p, 30p,
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the petrol�*s gone up, the gas, the electricity, but the pension's stayed exactly the same. we've been in the situation where we've had nothing, where neither of us worked, where we were on benefits with four children. so we've been at the very bottom. so we've always budgeted. it's late afternoon and lisa's daughter is arriving home from school. to get the bus to and from school, it's about £15 a week. and we've found that it's just so much easier for me to just walk to and from school because it's completely free and i have friends who i can walk with. mum, what's for dinner? fa rfa lle ! pasta. my mum usually gets me to set the wood burner because it actually heats all the water in our house and also it heats up all our rooms and everything. so we don't have to turn the central heating on. and we can get the wood for free because the council, if they see a tree is falling down, theyjust chop it up and leave it there. my sales have dropped off dramatically, you know,
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and that's what puts the food on the table. so you have to be very mindful of that. i don't know how busy i'm going to be this christmas. not at all. how does it make you feel as a mum? very worried. yeah, very worried because, you know, children need shoes, clothes, uniforms, money, shopping, bills. there's so much for you to think about, so much. so how do you feel as a family? we're really happy, we're really happy. we're really focused. they all know how hard i work to make this happen and they have to be a part of that. and they have to help and they do! when your life changes, you have to change your life. that's my mantra. fiona trott, bbc news, sunderland. and just a reminder you can find lots of information, advice and support around the rising cost of living and lots more on today's other stories on bbc.co.uk/news and on the bbc news app.
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we'll have more from sunderland for you later. for now, let's go back to lewis in the studio we to lewis in the studio will be back in sunderland a little we will be back in sunderland a little later. president putin is declaring martial law in the four annexes of ukraine. russian forces orchestrated self—styled referendums last month. he made the announcement speaking virtually with his russian security council and the move comes as russia says it has started evacuations from the occupied city of kherson, the first of all to russian invaders in february. 0ur russia editor steve rosenberg gave us this update
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a little earlier. vladimir putin, who is chairing a meeting right now of the powerful russian security council, announced that there would be martial law in these four ukrainian regions which he claims to have annexed, donetsk, luhansk, kherson and zaporizhzhia. but also he said all russian regional leaders, the russian governors, would be given additional powers to maintain social order and safeguard critically—important infrastructure. what that means is additional restrictions in many parts of the country. most restrictions in those russian regions closer to the border with ukraine, so for example belgorod region, berdyansk, kursk regions. in those parts of the country there will be restrictions on freedom of movement and restrictions on entry to those regions, but also, just reading in the decree, restrictions, too, in moscow, restrictions on movement and the possibility of cars being searched, as well.
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new research suggests getting less than five hours of sleep a night may be the "tipping point" at which people are at serious risk of poor health. a study of 8,000 people showed those who slept for less than five hours had a 30% greater risk of heart diseasse, cancer and diabetes, compared to those who had slept for seven. and i'm nowjoined by professor derk—jan dijk, who's the director of the surrey sleep research centre at the university of surrey. most of us will know, the more sleep you get, the better, not enough sleep, things are not as good, but what is the new detail here? the idea that five hours is the tipping point and five hours do not sound like that much sleep? i am point and five hours do not sound like that much sleep?— like that much sleep? i am not necessarily _ like that much sleep? i am not necessarily sure _ like that much sleep? i am not necessarily sure that _ like that much sleep? i am not necessarily sure that the - like that much sleep? i am not necessarily sure that the studyi necessarily sure that the study shows that five hours is the tipping point. 0ther shows that five hours is the tipping point. other studies suggested six hours is the tipping point, but what is new about this study is that the
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researchers not only looked at the risk of developing one chronic condition, but also the risk of developing multiple conditions like liver disease and kidney disease or liver disease and kidney disease or liver disease and stroke, so it is the multi—mobility that they are developing, and the people who answered that they sleep five hours or less during an average week night, those had a 20 or 30% increased risk of developing those multi—mobility is. this increased risk of developing those multi-mobility is.— multi-mobility is. this is amongst ieo i le multi-mobility is. this is amongst people over _ multi-mobility is. this is amongst people over 50- — multi-mobility is. this is amongst people over 50. and _ multi-mobility is. this is amongst people over 50. and obviously - multi-mobility is. this is amongstj people over 50. and obviously the young tend to sleep more. do we know why that is? young tend to sleep more. do we know wh that is? , ., young tend to sleep more. do we know why that is?— why that is? yes, age important variable and _ why that is? yes, age important variable and there _ why that is? yes, age important variable and there are _ why that is? yes, age important variable and there are two - why that is? yes, age important i variable and there are two relevant aspects. first of all we know that sleep duration and sleep need reduces with age. people in their 20s will need more sleep than people
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in their 50s. nevertheless, 20s will need more sleep than people in their50s. nevertheless, people in their50s. nevertheless, people in their50s. nevertheless, people in their 50s often are more sleep deprived than people in their 20s because people in their 50s are very busy with work, their career, family and many other factors, busy with work, their career, family and many otherfactors, so in that sense, looking at sleep duration at this particular age group is of interest. d0 this particular age group is of interest. «i ., , interest. do we know why getting more sleep _ interest. do we know why getting more sleep is _ interest. do we know why getting more sleep is better and - interest. do we know why getting more sleep is better and reduces| more sleep is better and reduces your risk for these comorbidities? we do not know that not getting enough sleep will be related to changes in processes, like renewed function, and you can measure those changes in blood and these kind of mechanisms could explain how short sleep affects ill—health. there is also the suggestion that when you
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sleep so long you have any increased risk of several health conditions and it probably reflects the reverse causality, that if you are ill, you will sleep more. in this study it was shown that short sleep is the primary driver and predictor of those morbidity is. the question of course is, why don't people get enough sleep, and one simple reason is there are 2a hours in a day and if you have long working times and a very long commute, then there isn't enough time left to sleep. ad very long commute, then there isn't enough time left to sleep.— enough time left to sleep. ad and enter that families _ enough time left to sleep. ad and enter that families and _ enough time left to sleep. ad and enter that families and young - enter that families and young children. right i think there will be lots of people interesting to hear what you say but we have run out of time, just like as you are talking about. thank you for your time. thank you. let's get the weather with chris. a cloudy day and
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quite windy and 30s and a0s around the coast and a rain band affecting western areas but the weather will particularly wet in northern ireland with the rain heavy on sundry for time here but otherwise a lot of dry weather for eastern areas of the country and it will be a mild day once again with temperatures peaking in the upper teens at least. 0vernight tonight we have more rain in the forecast and a batch of rain pushes northwards and eastwards, so some wet weather overnight, staying mild with temperatures between ten and 1a degrees and then tomorrow more rain on the cards, but there is some uncertainty. the most likely place to see heavy rain will be eastern areas of england but we could see a system develop a bit more and if that happens we could get the rain working in a bit more across parts of northern england and into parts of scotland as well. where raina turns up it's likely to be heavy but otherwise we are looking at another mild day. ——
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where the rain turns up.
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this is bbc news. i'mjoanna gosling, live today in sunderland. the headlines... inflation in the uk has returned to the a0—year high it hit earlier this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer prices index, is at 10.1%, driven mostly by rising food prices. and i'm ben brown at westminster, where liz truss told mps that she's committed to maintaining the triple lock on pensions, but wouldn't say if benefits would rise with inflation, and she came underfire in herfirst pmqs since her economic u—turn. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend, the former chancellor, he's gone as well.
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they're all gone, so why is she still here? cheers mr speaker... jeers mr speaker, lam a fighter, not a quitter. and in other news... harrowing and callous — a damning report is published into maternity care at east kent hospital trust. the chief investigator says women weren't listened to. russian president vladimir putin declares martial law in the four regions of ukraine which it annexed last month. they'll be expected to work with russia to boost the war effort. applause and cheers at tehran airport for the female climber who went without a headscarf at an international competitition.
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hello, and welcome to bbc news, with mejoanna gosling in sunderland and ben brown in westminster. we're here today to talk about the rising cost of living — and how it's affecting you and your family. new figures out today shows inflation in the uk has returned to the a0—year high it hit earlier this summer. the rate, as measured by the consumer prices index, is at 10.1%. and we'll be finding out throughout the day how people are coping with rising prices. and good afternoon from westminster — where liz truss has faced questions from mps in the house of commons this lunchtime for the first time since the almost complete reversal of her economic plan.
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and the ditching of last month's controversial mini budget. ms truss has described the decision to drop her package of tax cuts as "painful", but has committed to maintaining the triple lock on state pensions. more on that in a moment. lets remind ourselves of those inflation figures announced today, and the rising cost of living. inflation now stands at 10.1% — that's a measure of average prices between september 2021 and september 2022. in other words, if you paid £100 for a variety of products in september last year, you're now paying on average £110.10 for the same products this year. some prices went up more than others. food and nonalcoholic drinks rose by 1a.6%, even though petrol and air fares went down. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity explains what's driven today's rise in inflation. pension, £1a0 a week. how do you live on that?
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in sunderland, just like every other town in the country, pensioners are increasingly struggling to get by on state pensions, whichjust like benefits for people of working age, last went up byjust 3.1%. prices are now rising more than three times as fast. pensioners have been demanding a bigger rise. i think it's about time something was done about pensions. they missed the triple lock last year and it should be on this year. i'm a pensioner as well. the cost of living is going up all the time. the rich are getting richer- and the poor are getting poorer. i've never known it in my lifetime. children not being able to eat. we are all getting used now to price shocks like bread and cereals up 1a.5%, meat up 1515.3% and milk, meat up 15.3% and milk, cheese and eggs up 2a%. that hits hardest for the poorest families who spend a larger chunk of their incomes on food. in this cost of living crisis, those poor enough to collect
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universal credit have seen their incomes drop in real terms below pre—pandemic levels. food prices are surging, partly because supplies couldn't meet demand as the global economy recovered from the pandemic, especially after the war in ukraine disrupted the global supply of wheat and sunflower oil. and now, because devaluation means you now need more pounds to buy imported food, priced in dollars or euros. the uk now has worse inflation figures than any of the top seven advanced economies. most economists think inflation, the rise in the cost of living, hasn't yet hit its peak and that it will accelerate to around 11% in the coming months. but they are also forecasting that after that, it should drop back, so the cost of living will still be much higher but it won't be rising quite as fast. but if the government doesn't keep subsidising energy bills beyond the next six months, that may not happen. while we had thought it would then start to come down maybe in the middle of next year,
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now that we don't. .. now that energy prices might go back up again in april, it's possible you get another spike and inflation stays higherfor longer. putin is now losing ground on another front of his war, his attempt to weaponise gas prices. they have now fallen by a third since their peak. commodity traders now think there is an oversupply which could bring wholesale energy prices down further. a dim light of hope perhaps, visible at the end of a long, dark inflationary tunnel. andy verity, bbc news. despite difficult financial times, sunderland has become home to lots of new businesses in the past few years, and benefitted from investment in city centre and coastal redevelopment. an analysis of companies house and 0ns data by inform direct found 1,587 new companies were formed in sunderland in 2021. the bbc�*s sunderland reporter andy watson has been to meet some of the city's entrepreneurs.
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for many people, sunderland is an attractive place to live. and importantly, for the local economy, somewhere to start a business. circa 1 million through the door in the 12 month period is pretty special. the stack at seaburn opened in 2020. it's become a hub for local businesses along the coast, despite difficult financial times. all costs have gone up, so utilities, packaging, food, labour. so it is a concern. however, we're not seeing any drop—off in sales. ijust came up with the idea of the self—service baths. walk in service, you don't need an appointment, where owners can come off the beach and bath and dry their dog. it's really busy. seven days a week, it's available, throughout the year. this year we have seen a struggle but we'll come through it. people mostly come here for a bite to eat and a couple of drinks. butjust around the corner, a young entrepreneur
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has found her niche. yeah, it's brilliant... started out young when i was 19. yeah, over the moon that i came into the industry so young, because i feel having the client base that i have now, watching it grow over the last year and a half, it's something i'm really proud of. as someone who's been born and raised in sunderland, i'd heard that mackie's corner was the posh end of the town, but in recent years, it's been forgotten about and neglected. but now, it's back. an upmarket gentlemen's outfitters opened just last year. nice to meet you. hang your coat up there. oh, thank you, cheers. no bother at all. how's things? very good. you know, that amazing brickwork, high ceilings, the fantastic curved windows, but again, just a real opportunity to get involved with the redevelopment of the city. have you got it in another colour as well? well, i'm 62 and this is the highest level of investment i've seen probably since the late 1960s and it's long overdue. so i think better times ahead.
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the city is also focusing on investing in the growth of the tech sector. at sunderland software city, they've helped launch more than 100 new businesses since 2020. i'm currently looking at a photo frame and butterflies are flying out of the frame... augmented and virtual reality tech has been adapted by start—ups here. it's like a rainbow here! i was reaching out for things that were not really there. we actually have a lot of young people come through our immersive lab that we have and part of this kit that you're wearing is used by young people to excite them, inspire them about careers and pathways into stem and to kind of show them the possibilities of tech and stem jobs. so although experts predict an uncertain future, the view from the businesses we visited is that bright times are ahead. andy watson, bbc news, sunderland. some of the entrepreneurial spirit
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and development happening in sunderland. joining me now is stephen bell, chief executive of changing lives, a charity that provides accommodation to help people experiencing homelessness and those dealing with other issues. thank you forjoining us. what are you experiencing at the moment? i think the uncertainty which is out there at the moment is creating a real difficulty among the people that we are here to support. what we are seeing is a a% rise in the people who are rough sleeping across the north—east and into yorkshire. we are seeing women who are going and doing sex work so they can put food on the table for their children but also heat their houses. we are seeing 80% of the people who use our services, and this is nearly 13,000 people, in real poverty. real poverty means they cannot afford to eat and heat their houses. what we have seen is a dramatic increase in what we do is we will work with people when they have difficulties and move them on but what we are now
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seeing is people don't want to leave our services and live independently because they simply can't afford to do it. what that means is people who want to use the services, there is going to be a silt up and people can't come in. for us, this isjust the start. i think the next 12 months is going to be harder than the last 12 months. it is months is going to be harder than the last 12 months.— the last 12 months. it is shocking to hear the _ the last 12 months. it is shocking to hear the statistics _ the last 12 months. it is shocking to hear the statistics that - the last 12 months. it is shocking to hear the statistics that you - the last 12 months. it is shocking| to hear the statistics that you talk about, in terms of what people are doing to get through this time and where people are finding themselves, homeless. ., where people are finding themselves, homeless.- and _ where people are finding themselves, homeless. yeah. and then obviously the pressures _ homeless. yeah. and then obviously the pressures that _ homeless. yeah. and then obviously the pressures that you _ homeless. yeah. and then obviously the pressures that you are _ the pressures that you are experiencing as a charity that wants to help people. tell us a bit more about that. to help people. tell us a bit more about that-— to help people. tell us a bit more about that. . ., . ., , «i ., , about that. what charities like ours do is stoi about that. what charities like ours do is stop people — about that. what charities like ours do is stop people going _ about that. what charities like ours do is stop people going into - do is stop people going into hospital, that is what we do, if we went here, it is a social safety net, people would be using statutory services. if we were not here, you would have massive more people within the hospital environment. we have got individuals who are buying stand—alone stores and putting them in their sitting room and lighting
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them with no few more irrigation and anything. —— stand—alone stoves. in the day, when you have got more food banks than mcdonald's, it is not right. for us as a charity, we are waiting to see when the budget gets done on the 31st of october, what the public sector cuts means, and what it means to us is when this happened in 2010, interest rates and wage inflation was less than 2%. now you have got inflation which has just been set at 10.1% and wage growth is at 6%. we employ nearly 700 people. our turnover of staff is nearly 35% and it means we are constantly looking for new people and people are leaving us, staff are leaving us and going to work for different companies, not because they want to but because they have got to and they need to get bigger wages. irate got to and they need to get bigger waies. ~ . got to and they need to get bigger waies. . ., ., got to and they need to get bigger waies. i ., ., ., wages. we are not even into winter et and wages. we are not even into winter yet and we — wages. we are not even into winter yet and we are _ wages. we are not even into winter yet and we are pretty _ wages. we are not even into winter yet and we are pretty early - wages. we are not even into winter yet and we are pretty early in - wages. we are not even into winter yet and we are pretty early in this l yet and we are pretty early in this cost of living crisis. what are you thinking in terms of where this goes? i thinking in terms of where this ioes? ~ thinking in terms of where this ioes? .. ., thinking in terms of where this ioes? i' ii i thinking in terms of where this ioes? i' ., , , goes? i think what we will see is what we are _ goes? i think what we will see is what we are already _ goes? i think what we will see is what we are already seeing, - goes? i think what we will see is what we are already seeing, a i
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goes? i think what we will see is i what we are already seeing, a huge increase in people trying to use our services. we worry that what you will see is people who are dying and in isolation. you have seen on the tv, when you have got older people crying because they can't put the heating on, something is not right in the country. all we are asking from the government instability and to see what they can do to help those who really need it. you know, there was an announcement today regarding the pensions which is fantastic but there was no announcement regarding welfare payments, and the people we are working with don't want to be on welfare. we have got a lot of staff who are on working credits and in the welfare system. if the welfare system is not increased and it doesn't go through, what you are going to see is more people who are in a desperate state and are going to end up using more public services and particularly hospitals. you mentioned _ and particularly hospitals. you mentioned that _ and particularly hospitals. you mentioned that you are seeing a lot more people going into sex work to pay the bills. that is... i mean, thatis pay the bills. that is... i mean, that is life changing for somebody to turn to something like that to
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get them through and their families through this difficult time. it is life changing. _ through this difficult time. it is life changing, the _ through this difficult time. it 3 life changing, the mental health implications and the social stigma which goes with that will be everlasting. what we have to do is work with the trauma of that individual to enable them to go back to a flourishing life. but i have worked in this sector now for nearly 30 years and i have never known it more difficult than what it is at this moment and what it is going to be the next 12—2a months. this moment and what it is going to be the next 12-24 months.- this moment and what it is going to be the next 12-24 months. be the next 12-2a months. thank you for “oinini be the next 12-24 months. thank you forjoining us- — and just a reminder you can find lots of information, advice and support around the rising cost of living and lots more on today's other stories on bbc.co.uk/news and on the bbc news app. we will be talking about the impact of the cost of living on people here in sunderland throughout the day but for now, let's hear more about the politics with ben at westminster.
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thanks, joanna. well, amid the economic chaos of recent weeks, liz truss has taken part in herfirst prime minister's questions since sacking her original chancellor and replacing him withjeremy hunt, who drove a coach and horses through her economic plan. liz truss told mps that she and the chancellor remain "completely committed" to the triple lock on pensions, which sees them rise in line with inflation, despite downing street refusing to commit to it earlier in the week. the labour leader sir keir starmer asked, "what's the point of a prime minister whose promises don't last a week?" from westminster, damian grammaticas reports. is this your last prime minister's questions? a little over a month into her premiership, she is a prime minister shorn of her authority. the programme liz truss promised has been stripped almost bare, so every appearance now is a test for her. a book is being written about
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the prime minister's time in office. apparently it's going to be out by christmas. is that the release date or the title? laughter. i have been in office forjust under two months and i have delivered the energy price guarantee, making sure that people aren't paying £6,000 bills this winter. i have reversed the national insurance increase and i've also taken steps and we will be taking steps to crack down on the militant unions. being the butt of opposition jokes can be toxic for a prime minister, so liz truss tried to turn the tables and asked the labour leader about strikes on the railways. mr speaker, she's asking me questions because we are a government in waiting and they are an opposition in waiting. he attacked the government for having crashed the economy and now planning spending cuts. why on earth would anyone trust the tories with the economy ever again?
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i notice, mr speaker, he is not actually objecting to a single economic policy that the chancellor announced on monday. he's refusing to condemn the strikers. we're on the side of working people, we are going to legislate to make sure we keep our railways open. the honourable gentleman refuses to do anything. sir keir starmer then listed all the policies liz truss has been forced to junk. a5p tax cut, gone. corporation tax cut, gone. his own benches enjoyed that. two year energy freeze, gone. tax—free shopping, gone. economic credibility, gone. and her supposed best friend, the former chancellor, he's gone as well. they are all gone, so why is she still here? cheers mr speaker...
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jeers mr speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter. i have acted in the national interest to make sure that we have economic stability. prime minister. order. the speaker had to quieten a noisy chamber but the stability of pensions worries many. just yesterday, the prime minister's spokesperson couldn't say if the government would keep its promise to increase the state pension in line with inflation. the latest broken promise has put pensioners in the front line of tory cuts, so can the prime minister perhaps turn to her chancellor right now, get permission to make another u—turn and commit to raising the state pension at the rate of inflation? prime minister. i honestly don't know what the honourable gentleman is talking about because...
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we have been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple lock and i am completely committed to it, so is the chancellor. but liz truss would not give the same assurance that benefits will also go up in line with inflation. and with doubts about her swirling, there are many in the opposition and her own party looking to capitalise on her weakness. damian grammaticas, bbc news. let's talk to our political correspondent helen catt. and some analysis of that pmqs and i suppose one of the key lines was, i am a fighter, not a quitter, and you suspect that message was aimed not just at the country but at her own tory mps, sitting behind her, many of whom want to dump her as soon as possible. of whom want to dump her as soon as iossible. i ii �* i of whom want to dump her as soon as iossible. i ., �*, _, . ., possible. yes, that's correct and i think that is _ possible. yes, that's correct and i think that is exactly _ possible. yes, that's correct and i think that is exactly who - possible. yes, that's correct and i think that is exactly who the i think that is exactly who the message was intended for. liz truss had little option but to come out
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fighting today. in a sense that is what some of her mps have been wanting to see her do, some of her performances in tv interviews on monday with our political editor chris mason for example for example and particularly at the press conference she gave last friday, she hadn't really been seen to do that so in some senses that is what a lot of mps were looking for her to do. we'll what she did today have changed the dial? i don't think so. she got through it and gave a reasonable performance which will keep her in the game, if you like, for a bit longer but she won't have necessarily one anybody over who was not one over before and neither will it have alienated anyone who was on her side before. we were looking at it as a test, certainly the performance, but i don't think it is going to be one of those kind of flashpoints, no.— going to be one of those kind of flashpoints, no. that “oke from sir keir flashpoints, no. that “oke from sir keh shahmeh h flashpoints, no. that “oke from sir keir starmer, the i flashpoints, no. that joke from sir keir starmer, the opposition i flashpoints, no. that joke from sir. keir starmer, the opposition leader, about a book about the prime minister called out by christmas but you get the sense that this is a matter of the prime minister surviving week by week, day by day,
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you know, looking to the end of the month firstly. we have heard that, and there may be hoping to get to christmas. ii and there may be hoping to get to christmas. , i, «i . «i and there may be hoping to get to christmas. , i, «i i «i i, i, christmas. if you think back to what haiiens christmas. if you think back to what ha i iens to christmas. if you think back to what happens to boris — christmas. if you think back to what happens to boris johnson, - christmas. if you think back to what happens to boris johnson, there i christmas. if you think back to what | happens to boris johnson, there was happens to borisjohnson, there was unhappiness for a long time, and even though it is calmer today and it was yesterday, there is a simmering unhappinessjust it was yesterday, there is a simmering unhappiness just below the surface. you can never quite tell what event is going to come along which will suddenly shift things. there is that ever present danger for the prime minister. the next obvious flashpoints that people are talking about is looking towards that new financial statement that the chancellor is going to give on the chancellor is going to give on the 31st of october. a lot of that we sort of know what is coming to some degree, but i think people will be looking out for any of the little nasty surprises that perhaps might be in there, or anything they don't like, so that is another potential moment when problems can rear their head for liz truss. but to be honest, there is always the sense every day that you never quite know what is going to happen, what will
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move things quite differently. irate move things quite differently. we heard from her that she is committed to the triple lock on state pensions, in others, then going up by the rate of inflation which we know is now more than 10%. how much of a surprise was that, that she should suddenly announce that at pmqs? i i, should suddenly announce that at pmqs? i ii i, , i, pmqs? what we have seen from government _ pmqs? what we have seen from government ministers _ pmqs? what we have seen from government ministers and i pmqs? what we have seen from government ministers and from | pmqs? what we have seen from i government ministers and from the chancellor and her own spokesperson in recent days was this idea of hedging around whether or not the government were going to meet the terms of the triple lock and under that, it is three measures, and they put state pensions up by whichever is the highest which this year means the rate of inflation at 10.1%. what we had heard from the chancellor, from her official spokesman, before, where words around looking after the vulnerable but not a clear commitment they would meet that and thatis commitment they would meet that and that is an issue for a lot of the backbenchers, one that i spoke to earlier this morning suggested it would be mad for them to renege on the triple lock. it was interesting to see her come out and say it so
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clearly that she is committed and that it will happen. her spokesman told journalists after pmqs that the chancellor and the prime minister had met this morning to discuss it and agreed that position. i think what it does for liz truss is put that one issue to bed but as you say, there are things that have been left on the table, like how much benefits are going to be operated by, some of the spending reductions —— are going to be rated up by. she said she was committed to social care reforms but has not said she is committed to bringing in —— to doing it on the current timescale. a lot of those kind of things that backbenchers will be looking for in the next financial statement on october the 31st.— october the 31st. tells what is happening _ october the 31st. tells what is happening with _ october the 31st. tells what is happening with this _ october the 31st. tells what is happening with this vote i october the 31st. tells what is happening with this vote on i october the 31st. tells what is i happening with this vote on fracking this evening because it is being treated as a vote of confidence in the government, isn't it? it treated as a vote of confidence in the government, isn't it?- treated as a vote of confidence in the government, isn't it? it is, so this is what— the government, isn't it? it is, so this is what is _ the government, isn't it? it is, so this is what is known _ the government, isn't it? it is, so this is what is known as _ the government, isn't it? it is, so this is what is known as an - this is what is known as an opposition motion, so when labour has the opportunity to put its business to the house of commons and
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usually it is not a binding vote and they have chosen to use the issue of fracking about which there is division on the conservative backbenches because it was in the conservative manifesto in 2019 that they would not lift the ban on fracking. liz truss has said she wants to do that, where local consent has been obtained. so there is division on the conservative benches about that. labour has chosen to do this by putting forward a motion which is quite process driven, it would take charge, allow labour to take charge of business on a different day in the commons, you might remember this strategy was used during the brexit debates, and then they would put forward some legislation which would be binding and would then ban fracking. what that does is it means that they can sort of if you like to draw conservative mps into voting against that and then say to constituents, look, they voted against fracking. that is the kind of process side of it but government whips this morning told conservative mps that they were
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going to treat this as a confidence vote and that usually has two consequences. firstly, for individual mps who vote against the government, that usually means you lose the weight but secondly, in a strict confidence vote, if the government loses, the prime minister would go to the king and recommend a successor having resigned or ask him to dissolve parliament and force a general election. the prime minister's press secretary told journalists the prime minister would not be resigning if the government lost the vote. i suppose the question is, is it going to work? i just spoke to scott benton, the mp for blackpool south, who is a fierce critic of fracking and has spoken out about it and there's a lot of criticism and worries in his constituency about it. he said to me, look, this is a labour ploy, a cynical ploy, it is not about fracking, it is about being able to put things on social media that savers conservative mp voted for fracking, it is about trying to embarrass conservative mps rather thanit embarrass conservative mps rather than it being a serious motion about fracking. so maybe it's not going to
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work. ii i i fracking. so maybe it's not going to work. ii , , i, , work. can i 'ust put to use something _ work. can ijust put to use something that _ work. can ijust put to use something that is - work. can ijust put to use something that is being i work. can ijust put to use i something that is being reported this afternoon in the guardian and the sun, we have not been able to confirm this yet but that suella braverman has left office from the government as home secretary, that she is no longer home secretary. this is after the prime minister cleared her diary and called off a planned visit to an electronics manufacturer this afternoon. according to the guardian, there is speculation that grant shapps, the former transport secretary, who had backed rishi sunak in the tory leadership race, will replace suella braverman. this is all according to the guardian, and the sun are reporting it as well. if that is true, another huge blow to the prime minister. she is trying to maintain her premiership.— her premiership. yes, it is and i sui iose her premiership. yes, it is and i suppose it _ her premiership. yes, it is and i suppose it will _ her premiership. yes, it is and i suppose it will depend - her premiership. yes, it is and i suppose it will depend firstly i her premiership. yes, it is and i suppose it will depend firstly if| suppose it will depend firstly if this is correct and secondly under
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what circumstances, that suella braverman has gone, if she has gone. we were told earlier, just a few hours ago that there would be no cabinet reshuffle. we were told liz truss was going on this visit. this all sounds like it has come about very quickly and in an unplanned way. i think we will need to find out more details about this. i think the key thing to remember is that suella braverman was a leadership contender. she had a base of support in the party and it was partly her swinging in behind liz truss after she was knocked out of the contest and bringing her supporters with her that bolstered liz truss's position. depending on the circumstances under which she has gone, that is potentially, you know, a dangerfor liz truss, yes. potentially, you know, a danger for liz truss. yes-— liz truss, yes. ok, 'ust to recap, the news — liz truss, yes. ok, 'ust to recap, the newsiiust h liz truss, yes. ok, just to recap, the newsjust being _ liz truss, yes. ok, just to recap, the newsjust being reported i liz truss, yes. ok, just to recap, the newsjust being reported by i liz truss, yes. ok, just to recap, i the newsjust being reported by the guardian and the sun that suella braverman has left office, left the government as uk home secretary. we
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don't know, as helen isjust saying, the circumstances of the departure, as she resigned or been sacked? we will have to wait and see. that is the very latest from westminster. a pity the atmosphere as we have been reporting all afternoon. —— a pretty feeble atmosphere. but back to the studio. up to a5 babies might have survived, had they received better care at east kent nhs hospitals trust — that's one of the findings of a damning independent review. a panel looked at more than 200 cases at the trust between 2009 and 2020, and found that the outcome could have been different in nearly half. it said the hospitals often provided care that was "suboptimal" and led to significant harm. dr bill kirkup, who led the inquiry, said staff had failed to take notice of women when they raised concerns. and i want to stay at the outset
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that this cannot go on. we cannot go on treating each individual service failure as though it is a one—off, never to be repeated, isolated failure because experience says, if that is what we do, it will pop up again somewhere else in the time to come. and i do not want to be in a position ever again of having some families who have been harmed telling us about service failures that the nhs should have known about first and didn't. bbc south east's health correspondent mark norman gave us this update. the first thing dr bill kirkup did when he came into them to talk to the waiting media was describe the pain, the raw emotion and the anger that he was seeing from families where he had just come from giving them details of that report. many families believe they were treated by contempt by the trust and were blamed themselves for what had happened and many believe they were lied to. today, in the last few minutes, the chief executive of the trust spoke on camera
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with a wholehearted apology. i want to say sorry and apologise unreservedly for the harm and suffering that has been experienced by the women and babies who were within our care, together with their families, that is described in today's report. these families came to us expecting that we would care for them safely, and we failed them. we must now learn from and act on this report. for those who have taken part in the investigation, for those who we will care for in the future, and for our local communities. i know that everyone in the trust is fully committed to doing that. in the last few years, we have worked hard to improve our services and have invested to increase the number of midwives and doctors, and staff training and in listening to and acting on feedback from the people who receive our care. while we have made progress, we know that there is more for us to do and we absolutely accept that.
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now that we have received the report, we will read it in full and the board will use its recommendations to continue to make improvements so that we are providing safe, high—quality care that patients expect and deserve. many families will hear that but not necessarily be convinced that the trust can make the changes. many families will hear that but not necessarily be convinced that the trust can make the changes. they have heard statements like that before in the last few years and they will really question the chief executive whether that is possibly. dr bill kirkup said he wants to see changes notjust to east kent but other maternity departments around the country. he wrote the morecambe bay report in 2015 and we recently had the publication of the shrewsbury and telford report by donna 0ckenden and there's a new investigation under way in nottingham.
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these problems exist in maternity departments across the country but today's report is particularly damning in east kent. the trust has a huge amount of work to do to gain the confidence of the community. of work to do to gain we of work to do to gain are back live at westminster i we we are back live at westminster and we can re—break the news that we've heard in the last few minutes about suella braverman, the home secretary, who is no longer home secretary. it's being reported in the guardian newspaper and sun newspaper that she is no longer home secretary on the sun newspaper has said she has been sacked. just a few weeks after being appointed as home secretary. the guardian are simply saying she has departed as home secretary after liz truss cleared her diary. we know that liz truss cancelled a scheduled visits to an electronics manufacturer she was supposed to be going too. it's pretty feeble aisle at westminster we have a vote on fracking which the government is taking is a confidence vote and that was some of the big news and we also had prime
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minister's questions early in the day when liz truss, the first prime ministers question since the shredding of her mini budget, her economic plan, and at that she told the commons that she is a fighter, not a quitter but since then her home secretary has gone and according to the sun newspaper has been sacked. we don't know the circumstances of the dismissal, if indeed it has been a dismissal but it perhaps underlines the chaos, really, in the government at the moment. a lot of mps, as we were reflecting earlier on. let's go straight to our political correspondent, helen kat. straight to our political corresiondent, helen kat. ii correspondent, helen kat. there are rumours that — correspondent, helen kat. there are rumours that suella _ correspondent, helen kat. there are rumours that suella braverman, i correspondent, helen kat. there are rumours that suella braverman, the | rumours that suella braverman, the home secretary has gone and a home office source has confirmed it to the press agency but we are trying to find out what we can about this. it will of course the a big loss, i think, if that has happened, the
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home secretary is a big figure. suella braverman had her own ambitions in the leadership contest and when she was knocked out she swung in very quickly behind liz truss and bought the support of a particular section of the party with her, so we are hearing this, but we don't know any of the circumstances. is it a resignation, has she been sacked, we don't know at this stage in the circumstances of that are likely to make a big difference. it's another huge, political day and it prolongs the whole uncertainty surrounding liz truss's premiership. the home secretary gone after a few weeks, herfirst the home secretary gone after a few weeks, her first chancellor gone after a few weeks replaced byjeremy hunt. there is chaos really and the government. ii hunt. there is chaos really and the government-— government. if you think about it, the 've government. if you think about it, they've only _ government. if you think about it, they've only had _ government. if you think about it, they've only had three _ government. if you think about it, they've only had three cabinet i they've only had three cabinet meetings and this now looks like therefore meeting and they will have a different chancellor and home secretary, two of the biggestjobs
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in government. secretary, two of the biggest 'obs in governmenti in government. let's 'ust go to chris in government. let's 'ust go to chhs meson h in government. let's 'ust go to chris mason who i i in government. let'sjust go to chris mason who i think- in government. let'sjust go to chris mason who i think is i in government. let'sjust go to chris mason who i think is a i in government. let'sjust go to chris mason who i think is a bit more on this. i chris mason who i think is a bit more on this.— chris mason who i think is a bit more on this. i can tell you in the last couple _ more on this. i can tell you in the last couple of— more on this. i can tell you in the last couple of minutes _ more on this. i can tell you in the last couple of minutes i've i more on this. i can tell you in the last couple of minutes i've been i last couple of minutes i've been told that suella braverman has resigned as home secretary. she met the prime minister this afternoon in parliament. my understanding is we will receive official confirmation in the next five or ten minutes or so. my understanding is, as i'm told, a disagreement about government policy, but instead what was described as an honest mistake on the part of the now former home secretary. huge turbulence again at the top of liz truss's government, losing one of the occupiers of a principal office of state. just a matter of weeks into the job,, a vacancy requiring filling, and another big moment for a prime minister already in colossal trouble. so the home secretary,
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suella braverman, resigning today in a meeting face—to—face with the prime minister. the prime minister was due to be on a visit to a factory this afternoon. her team were telling us as a reporter is all about that a couple of hours ago at lunchtime and that was hastily cancelled just before 2pm this afternoon which set tongues wagging as to why that would be the case and now we know why. there is a big vacancy in government which the prime minister has to sort as a result of the resignation of the home secretary.— result of the resignation of the home secreta . i, i, i, , , home secretary. extraordinary times, chris. first home secretary. extraordinary times, chris- first the _ home secretary. extraordinary times, chris. first the chancellor _ home secretary. extraordinary times, chris. first the chancellor of - home secretary. extraordinary times, chris. first the chancellor of the i chris. first the chancellor of the exchequer of the government, of liz truss's government gone, now the first home secretary. such instability at the very top of government.— instability at the very top of government. instability at the very top of iovernment. ii i i i, , , i, instability at the very top of iovernment. i i, , , i, , government. vast instability at 'ust the ioint government. vast instability at 'ust the point that �* government. vast instability at 'ust the point that the i government. vast instability at 'ust the point that the prime i government. vast instability atjust the point that the prime minister i the point that the prime minister was attempting to make an argument, as ludicrous as it might sound, that the reason she should stay in office was because she offered stability
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relative to a change of leader and a general election, but as you say she has lost a chancellor and has lost a home secretary in the space of a matter of days and so the turbulence continues. all of this on the same day that we've seen the suspension of one of her most senior communications adviser is, jason steen, who is being investigated over briefings to the sunday newspapers at the weekend. so at every level, private and public, in the very highest offices, private and public, we see continuing turbulence, hour by hour, for a government living day by day. that is the simple truth. the prime minister managed to get through prime minister's questions and faced what looked like humiliation guaranteed at pmqs, and it was pretty difficult for her. in my judgment she performed as well as she might have hoped for in that difficult situation. little was she
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to know that minutes after leaving the chamber, looking ahead to this trip beyond westminster, trying to offer that sense of stability as she sees it, relative to the alternatives, and she is straight back into westminster with the diary shredded and looking for a new home secretary. shredded and looking for a new home secreta . i, , i, , secretary. your understanding is that suella _ secretary. your understanding is that suella braverman _ secretary. your understanding is that suella braverman has i secretary. your understanding is i that suella braverman has resigned rather than has been sacked, or is that not clear, because one of the newspaper accounts is that she was sacked but what more are you hearing about the circumstances? my sources say resigned, but sometimes they know that the alternative is they will be sacked. to know that the alternative is they will be sacked.— know that the alternative is they will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know et will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that _ will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that that _ will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that that is _ will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that that is the _ will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that that is the case i will be sacked. to be clear, i don't know yet that that is the case in i know yet that that is the case in this instance, but that is not entirely unprecedented in these situations and the resignation has been accepted and in a situation where the prime minister wanted to retain a minister who was offering
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to go, then a prime minister could do that and potentially persuade them to stay. we await a more rounded account are precisely what has happened and this is still an emerging picture and there is plenty we don't know, but what i can tell you is that the home secretary has gone and yet another significant office of state, one of the biggest roles in any government will soon have another occupier. just roles in any government will soon have another occupier.— have another occupier. just to conclude. _ have another occupier. just to conclude, suella _ have another occupier. just to conclude, suella braverman l have another occupier. just to i conclude, suella braverman did have leadership ambitions of her own. she did. she leadership ambitions of her own. sis: did. she was a leadership ambitions of her own. 5“ie: did. she was a candidate in the summer and is seen as someone pretty prominent and growing in prominence on the right of the party. someone who was seen to have a very bright future within the party and someone in any future race, and you never know if one might be hours or weeks away, it would be likely as a name in the frame talked about as a
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future leader, so her next move will be interesting. and this is an imperfect picture and it tells me it is not a disagreement about public policy but we watch with real interest what she says from the backbenches at a time of such government turmoil. it is interesting _ government turmoil. it is interesting she _ government turmoil. it is interesting she was i government turmoil. it is interesting she was a i government turmoil. it is interesting she was a figure from the right of the party who liz truss wanted on the board of the cabinet, so does that cause problems with the right? she was in a meeting of the er g, the brexiteers wing of the party last night. what about the balance of the cabinet, the balance of the government?— of the government? balance is everything _ of the government? balance is everything and _ of the government? balance is everything and the _ of the government? balance is everything and the critics i of the government? balance is everything and the critics of. of the government? balance isj everything and the critics of liz truss and plenty know that there are plenty of them have said that her cabinet in balance terms tilted too far to the right in the conservative fold and did not include a sufficient number of people who were
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elsewhere in the conservative parties who lent her support over the summer, so it would not surprise me if her successor in the home office is somebody who was seen to be a supporter of a prominent flag waver of the former chancellor as she tries to make the case that she has learnt the lessons of her early weeks, the mistakes as she describes them and attempts to assemble a conservative front bench in the prominent roles that is more broadly cast. in that sense it gives her an opportunity to demonstrate willingness to do that and we saw that with the appointment of greg hands in the last week or two as a trade minister and we saw it with the appointment ofjeremy hunt as chancellor, and circumstances forced upon her and an opportunity to do that again. upon her and an opportunity to do that aiain. i, ii , upon her and an opportunity to do that again-— that again. you are giving us your reflections _ that again. you are giving us your reflections on _ that again. you are giving us your reflections on prime _ that again. you are giving us your reflections on prime minister's i reflections on prime minister's questions and there was a joke from keir starmer about a book about the
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prime minister called out by christmas. but that is a fair question. will she still be prime minister by christmas? if she were, some people would say it would be quite an achievement. the some people would say it would be quite an achievement.— quite an achievement. the short answer is i _ quite an achievement. the short answer is i don't _ quite an achievement. the short answer is i don't know _ quite an achievement. the short answer is i don't know and i quite an achievement. the short answer is i don't know and she i answer is i don't know and she doesn't know and the conservative party collectively don't know and neither does anybody else. there are too many moving parts of this to be certain but the very fact we are asking the question tells us everything about the situation we are in politically stop a prime minister who has been in office for six weeks should not need to face the kind of question you just asked me and the kind of answer i am articulating in most circumstances even the most extraordinary, this would be a ludicrous exchange but it's not a ludicrous exchange, it's the same exchange that will go on in every square metre of the postcode of westminster right now. it is very live for the simple reason that she cannot be certain to be there at
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christmas. cannot be certain to be there at christmas-— cannot be certain to be there at christmas. that message, i'm a fiihter, christmas. that message, i'm a fighter. not _ christmas. that message, i'm a fighter. not a — christmas. that message, i'm a fighter, not a quitter— christmas. that message, i'm a fighter, not a quitter you i christmas. that message, i'm a fighter, not a quitter you sense| christmas. that message, i'm a i fighter, not a quitter you sense it was a message to her own mps rather than just the country watching on tv. than 'ust the country watching on tv. , than 'ust the country watching on tv. yes absolutely and all she could say because — tv. yes absolutely and all she could say because the _ tv. yes absolutely and all she could say because the alternative - tv. yes absolutely and all she could say because the alternative would i tv. yes absolutely and all she could | say because the alternative would be to leave and it's a simple as that and she was channelling peter mandelson just there, the former minister who used that line himself the best part of 20 odd years ago. but it was a defiant performance from the prime minister at lunchtime without question in the most difficult of circumstances, she is determined to cling on, but her future is not solely in her hands and that is not always the case for and that is not always the case for a prime minister but normally not so early in their premiership, they can rely on the support of their party but right now, she can't.- rely on the support of their party but right now, she can't. before we let ou but right now, she can't. before we let you go. — but right now, she can't. before we let you go. some — but right now, she can't. before we let you go. some up _ but right now, she can't. before we let you go, some up for— but right now, she can't. before we let you go, some up for us - but right now, she can't. before we let you go, some up for us what i but right now, she can't. before we let you go, some up for us what we know about suella braverman leaving the government, the very important
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post of home secretary? this afternoon _ post of home secretary? this afternoon the _ post of home secretary? this afternoon the home - post of home secretary? “i“i : afternoon the home secretary has resigned and her resignation has been accepted by the prime minister and they met this afternoon in parliament for a face—to—face meeting and i understand the reason for her resignation is what is being described to me by one source as an honest mistake, not a disagreement over government policy and i emphasise this is an emerging story with plenty of details not yet nailed down and a broader and wider picture will no doubt emerge in the coming hours, but perhaps the coming minutes moving fast and it gets faster and faster. i ii ,, moving fast and it gets faster and faster. i i, «i , i, , i faster. chris, thank you very much indeed. faster. chris, thank you very much indeed- let's _ faster. chris, thank you very much indeed. let's recap _ faster. chris, thank you very much indeed. let's recap the _ faster. chris, thank you very much indeed. let's recap the breaking i indeed. let's recap the breaking news we are bringing you that the home secretary has left the government, as chris was saying it appears she has resigned and the terms of the resignation, we do not know whether it was in effect a
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dismissal as chris was saying sometimes that ministers had little choice but to resign and the sun newspaper reported she had been sacked on the guardian newspaper reported she had left her position as home secretary and we have confirm she has gone as well, so suella braverman is out of the government and as chris was reflecting, extraordinary turbulence in the government of liz truss getting rid of herfirst in the government of liz truss getting rid of her first chancellor of the exchequer, kwasi kwarteng from one of the great offices of state and now her home secretary has gone as well and we have the cancellation of the prime minister's visit to an electronics manufacturers this afternoon which had been scheduled. that was in her diary and we weren't sure why that visit had been cancelled, but it appears that this was the reason, a mistake of some kind by suella
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braverman which has led to her departure from the government. it's an extraordinary time here when spinster. there seem to be new twists and turns every day and you cannot take your eyes off it and as we were hearing at prime minister's questions earlier we had liz truss trying to come out fighting saying, i am a fighter, not a quitter and there werejokes at i am a fighter, not a quitter and there were jokes at her expense from there were jokes at her expense from the labour leader, sir keir starmer, saying he had heard there was a book about the prime minister called out by christmas and that was the publication date or the title, he wasn't sure. lots ofjokes at prime minister's questions but the prime minister's questions but the prime minister tried to come out fighting. let's get some analysis from and part of a european organisation and also part of the institute for
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government and a former senior civil servant at number ten and jill, we've talked many times about the political situation at the moment but another twist in the departure of the home secretary we are hearing in the last few minutes. what do you make of that? it in the last few minutes. what do you make of that?— make of that? it underlines how unstable the _ make of that? it underlines how unstable the government i make of that? it underlines how unstable the government is i make of that? it underlines how unstable the government is that make of that? it underlines how- unstable the government is that this time last week, kwasi kwarteng was chancellor, suella braverman was home secretary are nowjeremy hunt is installed as chancellor and we are about to get another home secretary, the third home secretary this year but none of this is conducive to good government. anything that is making progress, it's really quite destabilising and it's really quite destabilising and it raises how many questions about how long the prime minister can hang on. i i how long the prime minister can hang on. i , i, ,
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how long the prime minister can hang on. i i i, , on. there is this latest departure from the government _ on. there is this latest departure from the government and - on. there is this latest departure from the government and we i on. there is this latest departure i from the government and we don't know everything about the circumstances of suella braverman's departure, but what does it do for the prime minister's chances? it just reeks of instability, doesn't it? it just reeks of instability, doesn't it? i, , , just reeks of instability, doesn't it? i, , y , it? it does look very unstable but until we know _ it? it does look very unstable but until we know quite _ it? it does look very unstable but until we know quite why - it? it does look very unstable but until we know quite why suella i until we know quite why suella braverman went or whether liz truss indeed asked her to leave, whether it is about policy differences. we know there were differences emerging between the line suella braverman was taking up the home office on loosening up immigration with the line that liz truss wanted to take, so whether it is policy differences or something completely different, we don't know. the other question is, who do she appoint? there were stories she might be about to appoint grant shapps and if she does that, it is a second big shift in the composition of the cabinet because just as jeremy hunt was a because just asjeremy hunt was a rishi sunak bacca and ran himself in the leadership, grant shapps was
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another person who backed rishi sunak and that seem to be why he did not appear in his initial line—up and so we are getting the cabinet being reconstructed at pace but it might raise big questions who said some of the people who backed liz truss wanted her in a cabinet with people like kwasi kwarteng and suella braverman in it? want do we make of the reconstructed line up with some of the people who backed rushy sunak, whether it is a unifying move or not, it might be a day or a week to see if things don't move too quickly for that. just underlining. — move too quickly for that. just underlining, chris _ move too quickly for that. just underlining, chris mason, our political editor, saying to us a few moments ago, said that this was not a very policy difference, this resignation, that is what it was, by the home secretary but an honest mistake, and we do not know what the honest mistake might have been, but
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we know that suella braverman was a critic of the u—turn of the top rate of tax and thought that the prime minister had fallen victim to a coup, which she said at the time, so there were differences, but this appears to have been, according to the political editor because of some sort of mistake. and as we were reflecting earlier, suella braverman did have leadership ambitions of her own. she did have leadership ambitions of her own. i, i did have leadership ambitions of her own. i, , i, own. she did, she ran in the leadership — own. she did, she ran in the leadership election - own. she did, she ran in the leadership election and i own. she did, she ran in the leadership election and was| own. she did, she ran in the - leadership election and was actually first out of the blocks declaring her candidacy before borisjohnson her candidacy before boris johnson had her candidacy before borisjohnson had even stepped down and demanded support from the european research group faction in the conservatives. it's really important here that number ten, for the stability of this government that number ten in clear up exactly why suella braverman has, if she's been asked to leave, has been asked to leave. if it's a security related matter,
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they might not want to go into chapter and verse, but i think they need to say that this isn't about policy, not about personalities, it is not that she has resigned to go out and launch an attack from the sidelines at liz truss, it's because she did something and unlike boris johnson's gone, they feel ministers have to be held to the high standards of behaviour, so it's important to get a bit more clarity. i canjust tell important to get a bit more clarity. i can just tell you that chris mason is saying that it was a breach of the ministerial code. so explain what the ministerial code is and why that would be a departure from government. chris mason saying i'm told that the ministerial code had been broken by the home secretary. the ministerial code is issued by
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prime ministers and sets out how ministers are meant to conduct themselves in public office. you will remember, notoriously, with priti patel, she was investigated to see if she had breached the ministerial code over the permanent secretary, that she had been bullying officials and the investigation, the ethics adviser, and i don't think she has appointed one yet really did find there was substance against priti patel but borisjohnson substance against priti patel but boris johnson famously decided not to ask priti patel not to resign even though it looked like she had broken the ministerial code. this could be liz truss, just in the same way she handled the conor burns incident at party conference, this could be liz truss trying to signal she is running a different government to borisjohnson, and it is one that breached the ministerial
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code and it will not be tolerated in the way perhaps they were by boris johnson and we remember that the lax approach to standards is one of the big contributing factors to boris johnson's downfall. i big contributing factors to boris johnson's downfall.— big contributing factors to boris johnson's downfall. i am not sure if this is 100% — johnson's downfall. i am not sure if this is 100% true, _ johnson's downfall. i am not sure if this is 100% true, but _ johnson's downfall. i am not sure if this is 100% true, but i'm - johnson's downfall. i am not sure if this is 100% true, but i'm hearing i this is 100% true, but i'm hearing suella braverman would be the shortest serving home secretary since the second world war atjust over a0 days, a3 days. going back to the point about governmental instability, we are on the fourth chancellor in just a few months and now the home secretary has gone. i think a lot depends on whether they want someone who is a safe pair of hands and it might be it might be something quite serious has happens. remember the ministerial code was amended in line with recommendations from the standards in public life to
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say that not every offence required a ministerial resignation and there are lesser sanctions like an apology and we might say this is a serious breach of the ministerial code if liz truss thinks it's justified to ask suella braverman to leave the government but it's difficult to disentangle this at this stage but in terms of trying to get on with government business, it's quite difficult to have to ask who is the minister today, that's not a recipe for great government, so you have to hope things settle down quite a bit. but with somebody with quite a lot of cabinet experience, you could say suella braverman had not had that long imposed, because everyone had to go back to the fact that kwasi kwarteng with his short tenure was the second shortest chancellor because ian mcleod died very early on in the ted heath government of a
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heart attack and i can't remember, not in my experience, has there been a home secretary with a shorter tenure than that.— a home secretary with a shorter tenure than that. thank you so much for our tenure than that. thank you so much for your reaction _ tenure than that. thank you so much for your reaction to _ tenure than that. thank you so much for your reaction to the _ tenure than that. thank you so much for your reaction to the breaking i for your reaction to the breaking news that suella braverman has gone from the government and we speak to roger gale mp who is in the houses of parliament. thank you so much for your time. what is your reaction to the news that suella braverman is out? i can read you the story that we have on this that she met the prime minister in parliament and our political editor understands it's not a disagreement over policy but an honest mistake by the home secretary and we understand that the prime minister was advised that she had broken the ministerial code. what is your reaction to that? the most what is your reaction to that? t“i2 most important thing is that this is not a disagreement over policy, so let's not laid out at the prime minister's door. if it was a breach of the ministerial code, whether it
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was accidental or unintended or not, that has to be a serious issue. the last prime minister found himself in some trouble because of breaches, or what some of us believe, where breaches of the ministerial code and i think this prime minister is determined to try to hold high standards in office.— determined to try to hold high standards in office. roger, let me 'ust standards in office. roger, let me just interrupt _ standards in office. roger, let me just interrupt you, _ standards in office. roger, let me just interrupt you, because i'm i just interrupt you, because i'm going to read some of suella bravermanresignation letter which might clarify the circumstances, if you can bear with me. i will read this to you and the viewers. the prime minister, it's with the greatest regret i am choosing to tender my resignation. earlier today i sent an official document from my personal e—mail to a trusted parliamentary colleague as part of policy engagement and with the aim of garnering support for government policy on migration and this constitutes a technical infringement of the rules. as you know, the document was a draft written ministerial statement about
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migration due for publication imminently and much of it had been briefed to mps, but nevertheless it is right for me to go and as soon as i realised my mistake i reported this on official channels and informed the cabinet secretary, and as home secretary i hold myself to the highest standards in my resignation is the right thing to do in the business of government relies on people excepting mistakes and pretending we haven't made mistakes and people cannot see we have made them and things hoping magically will come right is not serious politics. i have made a mistake and i accept responsibility and i resign. i won't read all of the letter but she goes on to say that we are going through a tumultuous league hard time, and not only have we broken key pledges we promise to voters but i have had serious concerns about this government with my commitment to honouring manifesto
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commitments such as reducing overall migration numbers and stopping illegal migration, particularly the dangerous small crossings. so there is, it's pretty clear, she made a mistake and she is going because of that but she is also highlighting her policy differences at the same time. so, roger gale, sorry forthe interlude, so thankfully you were learning that as we were. the first half of the statement _ learning that as we were. the first half of the statement is _ learning that as we were. the first half of the statement is entirely i half of the statement is entirely honourable and it sets out she has committed an error and broke the ministerial code and believes in high standards of governance and thatis high standards of governance and that is why she has resigned, but unfortunately she has tried to put a sting in the tail and i was one of a group of mps in kent he met with her yesterday to discuss immigration policies and i think it is what is known in the trade as a full and frank discussion because i certainly, and some others, are not
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entirely in lockstep with the now former home secretary. but she is a talented young lady and i don't like to see anybody�*s career and in this way and i would like to hope and believe that having done the right thing now she may well come back into office at some point. i am told, and this is again, only hearsay, that it might be that grant shapps will be brought into government having been secretary of state for transport in the last administration, to take over at the home space. if that is so, then grant, i believe him to be a very able and talented man and i'm sure that if it is correct, he will do a good job at the home office. ibrute that if it is correct, he will do a good job at the home office. we are exiectini good job at the home office. we are expecting yvette _ good job at the home office. we are expecting yvette cooper _ good job at the home office. we are expecting yvette cooper for - good job at the home office. we are expecting yvette cooper for labour i expecting yvette cooper for labour to do a point of order on this in the commons, so i may interrupt you, but in the meantime, can i ask you, does all of this, and we've gone into the reasons for suella braverman going, but does all of this point to chronic instability at the very heart of this government?
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we have had four chancellors in a few months, and yet another home secretary, we've got that coming in and we don't know who it is but this home secretary has gone after only a few days in office. i think after what was her for a very good on a sticky wicket prime ministers question time, this is the last thing the prime minister wanted this afternoon. the last thing the prime minister wanted this afternoon.— this afternoon. the country doesn't need et this afternoon. the country doesn't need yet more _ this afternoon. the country doesn't need yet more instability. - this afternoon. the country doesn't need yet more instability. but i this afternoon. the country doesn't need yet more instability. but we i need yet more instability. but we are where we are and if grant shapps is appointed, it will be a good thing. i need to go and talk to people about the report into maternity services in my hospital, which is of vital importance, actually nationally, but crucial importance to my constituents who have lost children in that unit. if you forgive me, i have got to go and do what i have got to do now. ibrute do what i have got to do now. we will forgive you, thank you for being with us on bbc news. let me
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recap the letter that we have just received a

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