secretary has gone and the home secretary has gone and she has been replaced by grant schapps as the new home secretary in another day of huge political drama here at westminster. official line at the moment from number ten. day of huge political drama here at westminster. welcome to bbc news, we are live at westminster. the government is facing a night of chaos after suella braverman resigned as the home secretary and launched a damaging attack on the leadership of the prime minister, liz truss. it has been called a hand grenade. suella braverman said she had breached the ministerial code by sending an official document from a personal e—mail. in her resignation letter she says the business of government depended on people taking responsibility for their mistakes. she added, she did have concerns

about the political direction of the government during what she described as a tumultuous time. well, that development means that liz truss has now lost two very senior members of her cabinet injust a now lost two very senior members of her cabinet in just a few days. following the sacking of kwasi kwarteng as her chancellor of the exchequer. what an extraordinary few daysin exchequer. what an extraordinary few days in prime minister's questions, in the commons a little bit early on. liz truss said she is a fighter and not a quitter, but she is under more pressure than ever now. and this is the scene, you can see it in downing street. we may be hearing from the new home secretary, grant shapps, he was a supporter of rishi sunak who lost the tory leadership to liz truss. it is interesting now that liz truss is bringing people from that wing of the party, the rishi sunak wing of the party, if you want to call it that into the top echelons of her government.

let's talk to our political correspondent, helen carter in the houses of parliament. you have been getting reaction to this extraordinary development? getting reaction to this extraordina develoment? , extraordinary development? yes, some reaction dribbling _ extraordinary development? yes, some reaction dribbling in _ extraordinary development? yes, some reaction dribbling in from _ extraordinary development? yes, some reaction dribbling in from mps, - extraordinary development? yes, some reaction dribbling in from mps, who - reaction dribbling in from mps, who are startled by the departure of suella braverman, nobody saw that coming. certainly not this afternoon and certainly when things had seemed to calm down. i have with me, the snp's to calm down. i have with me, the snp�*s kirsten oswald. what do you make of this? it is snp's kirsten oswald. what do you make of this?— make of this? it is almost unbelievable. _ make of this? it is almost unbelievable. i— make of this? it is almost unbelievable. i say - make of this? it is almost l unbelievable. i say almost, make of this? it is almost - unbelievable. i say almost, we are getting _ unbelievable. i say almost, we are getting used to this chaos to some extent _ getting used to this chaos to some extent it — getting used to this chaos to some extent. it is extraordinary. the uk government is unravelling, it has unravelled — government is unravelling, it has unravelled before our eyes. the prime _ unravelled before our eyes. the prime minister has no authority and is losing _ prime minister has no authority and is losing ministers at a rate of knots — is losing ministers at a rate of knots she _ is losing ministers at a rate of knots. she has already lost the chancellor and we have suella braverman departing as well, under confusing _ braverman departing as well, under confusing circumstances. is

braverman departing as well, under confusing circumstances.— confusing circumstances. is that normal, confusing circumstances. is that normal. you _ confusing circumstances. is that normal, you would _ confusing circumstances. is that normal, you would expect - confusing circumstances. is that normal, you would expect the i normal, you would expect the minister who sent a written ministerial statement on her personal e—mail to be gone? i ministerial statement on her personal e-mail to be gone? personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going — personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going on. _ personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going on. a — personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going on, a lot _ personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going on, a lot of _ personal e-mailto be gone? i wonder what is going on, a lot of people - what is going on, a lot of people will be _ what is going on, a lot of people will be wondering. the security matters — will be wondering. the security matters are very important, but it is not _ matters are very important, but it is not clear— matters are very important, but it is not clear what is going on. if you look— is not clear what is going on. if you look at_ is not clear what is going on. if you look at the letter suella braverman wrote back to liz truss, it was _ braverman wrote back to liz truss, it was scathing, to put it charitably. the infighting at the heart _ charitably. the infighting at the heart of — charitably. the infighting at the heart of the uk government continues. meanwhile, all the heart of the uk government continues. meanwhile, allthe people outside _ continues. meanwhile, allthe people outside the westminster bubble will be looking in and thinking, what on earth _ be looking in and thinking, what on earth is _ be looking in and thinking, what on earth is going on. this government are blind _ earth is going on. this government are blind to — earth is going on. this government are blind to the challenges and the struggles _ are blind to the challenges and the struggles that people are facing. many— struggles that people are facing. many of— struggles that people are facing. many of which are caused by the actions — many of which are caused by the actions of— many of which are caused by the actions of the self same government who cannot — actions of the self same government who cannot seem to stop fighting among _ who cannot seem to stop fighting among itself. it is outrageous and time _ among itself. it is outrageous and time it— among itself. it is outrageous and time it was— among itself. it is outrageous and time it was put to a stop and the people _ time it was put to a stop and the people had an opportunity to decide what they— people had an opportunity to decide what they want in their representatives. we what they want in their representatives. what they want in their re - resentatives. ~ . ., ., representatives. we are hearing that grant shapps — representatives. we are hearing that grant shapps has _ representatives. we are hearing that grant shapps has been _ representatives. we are hearing that grant shapps has been appointed - representatives. we are hearing that grant shapps has been appointed as| grant shapps has been appointed as

the new home secretary. that is a good appointment, isn't it? is a good appointment, isn't it? is a good minister, effective communicator and it could help teddy the government? i am communicator and it could help teddy the government?— the government? i am not sure i would agree — the government? i am not sure i would agree with _ the government? i am not sure i would agree with that. _ the government? i am not sure i would agree with that. we - the government? i am not sure i would agree with that. we are i would agree with that. we are getting — would agree with that. we are getting to the point where we are well repeated when people will be asking _ well repeated when people will be asking who will be the next chancellor, he will be the next home secretary _ chancellor, he will be the next home secretary it — chancellor, he will be the next home secretary. it would be funny if it wasn't _ secretary. it would be funny if it wasn't for — secretary. it would be funny if it wasn't for the devastating impact on the cost _ wasn't for the devastating impact on the cost of— wasn't for the devastating impact on the cost of living crisis and this government's actions on day—to—day iives _ government's actions on day—to—day lives it— government's actions on day—to—day lives it is— government's actions on day—to—day lives. it is serious, it is profoundly damaging for this place, for westminster. profoundly damaging for this place, forwestminster. i profoundly damaging for this place, for westminster. i think it is profoundly damaging for democracy as well. remember how liz truss, mps did not— well. remember how liz truss, mps did not want— well. remember how liz truss, mps did not want her there. well. remember how liz truss, mps did not want herthere. we well. remember how liz truss, mps did not want her there. we can be pretty— did not want her there. we can be pretty certain they still don't want her there — pretty certain they still don't want her there. there she is as prime minister — her there. there she is as prime minister. none of us voted for her, in scotland — minister. none of us voted for her, in scotland we did not vote for a conservative government at all. but that is _ conservative government at all. but that is what people have got, what they have — that is what people have got, what they have had imposed upon them and

they have had imposed upon them and the chaos— they have had imposed upon them and the chaos and damage this is causing people _ the chaos and damage this is causing people. one thing is for sure, they cannot— people. one thing is for sure, they cannot go— people. one thing is for sure, they cannot go on like this. it is time for the — cannot go on like this. it is time for the adults to be able to gather in the _ for the adults to be able to gather in the room and that is not what it looks— in the room and that is not what it looks like — in the room and that is not what it looks like just now. at in the room and that is not what it looks like just now.— in the room and that is not what it looks like just now. looks like 'ust now. at the moment, there is a looks like just now. at the moment, there is a vote _ looks like just now. at the moment, there is a vote going _ looks like just now. at the moment, there is a vote going on _ looks like just now. at the moment, there is a vote going on about - there is a vote going on about fracking that labour put forward and the snp are not going to vote on that, but you are this evening? yes. that, but you are this evening? yes, frackin: is that, but you are this evening? yes, fracking is a — that, but you are this evening? yes, fracking is a devolved _ that, but you are this evening? yes, fracking is a devolved issue and our government has pleased to say they have taken — government has pleased to say they have taken steps that fracking is banned — have taken steps that fracking is banned in— have taken steps that fracking is banned in scotland. people would not support— banned in scotland. people would not support that and i agree with them. what _ support that and i agree with them. what the _ support that and i agree with them. what the government here have done in another— what the government here have done in another extraordinary and strange course _ in another extraordinary and strange course of— in another extraordinary and strange course of action, they have deemed this a _ course of action, they have deemed this a vote — course of action, they have deemed this a vote of confidence in the government. that is what they have told their— government. that is what they have told their mps. if this is now a vote _ told their mps. if this is now a vote of— told their mps. if this is now a vote of confidence, and it is clear iooking _ vote of confidence, and it is clear looking at — vote of confidence, and it is clear looking at the communication the tory government have said to their mps, _ tory government have said to their mps. it— tory government have said to their mps. it is— tory government have said to their mps. it is a — tory government have said to their mps, it is a vote of confidence, the snp witt— mps, it is a vote of confidence, the

snp will participate. we have absolutely no confidence in liz truss — absolutely no confidence in liz truss and _ absolutely no confidence in liz truss and absolutely no confidence in this— truss and absolutely no confidence in this government at westminster. it is in this government at westminster. it is no _ in this government at westminster. it is no wonder so many people in scotland — it is no wonder so many people in scotland are looking at independence and seeing that better future iooming _ and seeing that better future looming very large and looking increasingly inviting.— looming very large and looking increasingly inviting. thank you very much _ increasingly inviting. thank you very much for— increasingly inviting. thank you very much for that. _ increasingly inviting. thank you very much for that. more - increasingly inviting. thank you i very much for that. more reaction here from westminster, we will keep gathering that and speaking to more people as we get it.— people as we get it. helen, thank ou. i people as we get it. helen, thank you- i want _ people as we get it. helen, thank you- i want to _ people as we get it. helen, thank you. i want to show— people as we get it. helen, thank you. i want to show you - people as we get it. helen, thank. you. i want to show you confirmation that grant shapps is now the new home secretary, replacing suella braverman. that is a tweet from the uk prime minister's twitter account, confirming the right honourable grant shapps and he has been appointed secretary of state for the home department. just to give you a bit of background about grant shapps. he was a major backer of rishi sunak during the tory leadership contest, which feels like

a lifetime ago. but it wasn't that long ago. it is interesting he has been brought in by liz truss as her home secretary to the very highest echelons of the government. he was fired from his role as transport secretary by liz truss when she became prime minister and replaced by anne—marie trevelyan. grant shapps was considered one of boris johnson's better cabinet communicators. he was one of the leading voices urging liz truss to ditch her plans, to scrap the top rate of income tax during the party conference earlier this month. he warned the prime minister then not to have what he called a tin ear to voters' concerns about rising living costs. that is grant shapps, he was now the home secretary. let's tell you more about the letter exchange we had from suella braverman, resigning as home secretary and then

the prime minister replying to that letter. i think we can show you the prime minister's letter. it was pretty brief, it was reallyjust thanking herfor her pretty brief, it was reallyjust thanking her for her service and pretty brief, it was reallyjust thanking herfor her service and it was, as you can see there, not very long. in response to a letter that was very long from suella braverman. where suella braverman talked, not only about the mistakes she had made in using her personal e—mail to send government information. and we gather that was about migration numbers. but in the third paragraph of suella braverman's resignation letter, launching another hand grenade at the liz truss government and talking about her differences with the political direction of liz truss' government. so that was suella braverman's letter there that you can see. quite a lengthy letter

and just about the last thing liz truss wanted to see, an attack on her government, really. it is still not really clear and we are getting different interpretations on this, whether suella braverman had resigned or was effectively sacked. let's talk to alexander brown, he is a westminster correspondent for the scotsman. an extraordinary day at westminster, as we have been describing it, another hand grenade that has been detonated very close to the prime minister, this time by suella braverman, what do you make of it all? it suella braverman, what do you make of it all? , , ~ , suella braverman, what do you make of it all? , , ,, , of it all? it seems like every day i start to write _ of it all? it seems like every day i start to write something - of it all? it seems like every day i start to write something in - of it all? it seems like every day i start to write something in the i start to write something in the early afternoon and mid—evening about what has happened in the day politics and the government finds a new way to collapse and implode in on itself. this is a huge blow to the prime minister. is incredibly popular with the right of the party and backbenchers. she appears to have resigned, but made it very clear she had taken the choice.

speaking to civil servants, this isn't normally the sort of thing you need to resign for and it seems like an excuse to have a go at the prime minister and perhaps try and bring her down. it minister and perhaps try and bring her down. , , ~ her down. it seems like the information _ her down. it seems like the information she _ her down. it seems like the information she was - her down. it seems like the | information she was putting her down. it seems like the i information she was putting in her down. it seems like the - information she was putting in this personal e—mail, this was her technical mistake, as she put it, was to do with migration numbers. at the heart of that there was a dispute about bringing more labour into this country from abroad and that was the dispute at the heart of the government?— that was the dispute at the heart of the rovernment? , ., ., the government? yes, the former home secretary was — the government? yes, the former home secretary was very. _ the government? yes, the former home secretary was very, very _ the government? yes, the former home secretary was very, very outspoken - secretary was very, very outspoken about immigration numbers. she said her dream would see immigrants going on a flight to rwanda, being on the front page of the telegraph. after you turn unladen numbers coming from other countries she had made a displeasure with the government very clear. she didn't follow collective responsibility and the concern for the government would be, if she is that outspoken in the cabinet, what

would she be like on the backbenches?— would she be like on the backbenches? . , ., ,, ., , ,, backbenches? and grant shapps as the new home secretary, _ backbenches? and grant shapps as the new home secretary, what _ backbenches? and grant shapps as the new home secretary, what do - backbenches? and grant shapps as the new home secretary, what do you - backbenches? and grant shapps as the | new home secretary, what do you make of that? it is an interesting development politically, because he was a rishi sunak supporter. is this liz truss bringing members of the rishi sunak camp into the fold come into the big tent?— into the big tent? yes, it is an interesting — into the big tent? yes, it is an interesting appointment - into the big tent? yes, it is an interesting appointment and l into the big tent? yes, it is an - interesting appointment and quite funny. he has a spreadsheet of all the tory mps and their views on the prime minister. if you want someone who has the view of individual mps, he is the perfect man. but he is an outspoken critic of the prime minister, saying how she could only have 30 days to go during the tory party conference. he hasn't supported her or her ideology. it is trying to get back some party unity, but it is a clear blow to her general authority among the party. party unity doesn't seem in huge supply at the moment. how much longer can liz truss be prime ministerfor?

longer can liz truss be prime minister for?— longer can liz truss be prime minister for? that is the million dollar question. _ minister for? that is the million dollar question. i _ minister for? that is the million dollar question. i was _ minister for? that is the million dollar question. i was thinking i dollar question. i was thinking weeks, months. ispoke dollar question. i was thinking weeks, months. i spoke to some mps today who think she could be gone by the end of the week and others who think she will be gone by christmas and distraught it could go as long as that. tory mps are so sick of liz truss as prime minister. watching pmqs today, the mood in the chamber, i have not seen under borisjohnson evenin i have not seen under borisjohnson even in his final days in pmqs. the tories are loudly cheered him, even though they had handed in their letters. today, there was no such thing. she was passionate, angry and speaking about her pride in the tory party and there was quite silence. they want her to go and it is a matter of when, not to. mas they want her to go and it is a matter of when, not to. was she talkin: to matter of when, not to. was she talking to them _ matter of when, not to. was she talking to them when _ matter of when, not to. was she talking to them when she - matter of when, not to. was she talking to them when she said i matter of when, not to. was she l talking to them when she said she was a fighter and not a quitter. in other words, was a fighter and not a quitter. in otherwords, if was a fighter and not a quitter. in other words, if you try to get rid of me, i will not go very easily? it of me, i will not go very easily? it is easy to say that, but if enough letters go in, graham brady can go to the prime minister and say, mps

are dropping like flies when it comes to the fracking vote. she cannot go on and say my way or the highway. irate cannot go on and say my way or the hiahwa . ~ ., cannot go on and say my way or the hiahwa .~ ., ., cannot go on and say my way or the hiahwa . ~ ., ., ., cannot go on and say my way or the hiahwa .~ ., ., ., , ., highway. we are going to grant sha -s in highway. we are going to grant shapps in downing _ highway. we are going to grant shapps in downing street. - highway. we are going to grant| shapps in downing street. grant sha s, shapps in downing street. grant shapps. what — shapps in downing street. grant shapps. what is _ shapps in downing street. grant shapps, what is going _ shapps in downing street. grant shapps, what is going on - shapps in downing street. grant shapps, what is going on in - shapps in downing street. grant shapps, what is going on in the government? is shapps, what is going on in the government?— government? is it chaos, grant sha s? government? is it chaos, grant shapps? we — government? is it chaos, grant shapps? we thought _ government? is it chaos, grant shapps? we thought we - government? is it chaos, grant shapps? we thought we might| government? is it chaos, grant. shapps? we thought we might get government? is it chaos, grant - shapps? we thought we might get a statement from _ shapps? we thought we might get a statement from the _ shapps? we thought we might get a statement from the new _ shapps? we thought we might get a statement from the new home - statement from the new home secretary but we just got a brief shot of him walking across downing street out of number ten. but he has been appointed the home secretary and that has been confirmed by the prime minister's twitter account. he is the home secretary and we were just talking to alexander brown from the scotsman about that. we were reflecting on bringing him in... in fact we are going back to hell and now in the houses of parliament. helen, there was grant shapps, who was a supporter of rishi sunak in the leadership election and you have got some reaction with you now? i

got some reaction with you now? i have, i have a government minister, steve baker. he was a supporter of suella braverman during her leadership campaign. i suella braverman during her leadership campaign.- suella braverman during her leadership campaign. i was her cam -aain leadership campaign. i was her campaign manager. _ leadership campaign. i was her campaign manager. clear- leadership campaign. i was her - campaign manager. clear something u, as campaign manager. clear something u - , as she campaign manager. clear something up, as she resigned _ campaign manager. clear something up, as she resigned of— campaign manager. clear something up, as she resigned of her— campaign manager. clear something up, as she resigned of her own - up, as she resigned of her own accord or has she been sacked or pushed? accord or has she been sacked or ushed? , . ., , . pushed? hell it is clear, she chose to tender her— pushed? hell it is clear, she chose to tender her resignation - pushed? hell it is clear, she chose to tender her resignation following a mistake — to tender her resignation following a mistake she made. have to tender her resignation following a mistake she made.— to tender her resignation following a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i have. — a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i have, yes. _ a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i have, yes. you _ a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i have, yes. you are _ a mistake she made. have you spoken to her? i have, yes. you are good - to her? i have, yes. you are good feel she has _ to her? i have, yes. you are good feel she has been _ to her? i have, yes. you are good feel she has been treated - to her? i have, yes. you are good feel she has been treated fairly? | feel she has been treated fairly? she is— feel she has been treated fairly? she is in— feel she has been treated fairly? she is in great spirits and once the prime _ she is in great spirits and once the prime minister to succeed. i'm clear that if— prime minister to succeed. i'm clear that if she _ prime minister to succeed. i'm clear that if she had made this mistake today, _ that if she had made this mistake today, she — that if she had made this mistake today, she would be doing a fantastic— today, she would be doing a fantasticjob as home secretary. i wanted _ fantasticjob as home secretary. i wanted both of them to succeed, sol am very— wanted both of them to succeed, sol am very disappointed. but suella braverman know she has made a mistake — braverman know she has made a mistake and she has resigned. she said she mistake and she has resigned. said she felt mistake and she has resigned. file: said she felt she mistake and she has resigned. s'ie: said she felt she had mistake and she has resigned. s“ie: said she felt she had to go for that, you said she wants the government to succeed, but she was quite scathing about the direction of the government in her letter, why did she put it in? it is

of the government in her letter, why did she put it in?— did she put it in? it is inevitable in the process _ did she put it in? it is inevitable in the process of— did she put it in? it is inevitable in the process of governing - did she put it in? it is inevitable l in the process of governing there will be _ in the process of governing there will be disagreements in policy and that is— will be disagreements in policy and that is natural. when people resign, it is inevitable some of those spill out into— it is inevitable some of those spill out into the public domain. i am absolutely _ out into the public domain. i am absolutely certain... _ out into the public domain. i am absolutely certain... do - out into the public domain. i am absolutely certain... do you - out into the public domain. i —n absolutely certain... do you think it was helpful she did that? it is what it is- _ it was helpful she did that? it is what it is. suella _ it was helpful she did that? it is what it is. suella would have carried — what it is. suella would have carried on— what it is. suella would have carried on had she not made this mistake. — carried on had she not made this mistake, resigning takes great integrity. do mistake, resigning takes great interri . ,, , ., ,, integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better— integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better in _ integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better in the _ integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better in the role? _ integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better in the role? he - integrity. do you think grant shapps will do better in the role? he will. will do better in the role? he will still have to _ will do better in the role? he will still have to solve _ will do better in the role? he will still have to solve the _ will do better in the role? he will still have to solve the same - still have to solve the same problems like the seasonal agricultural workers scheme. the small— agricultural workers scheme. the small boats crossing the channel will be _ small boats crossing the channel will be present in everybody's mines and the _ will be present in everybody's mines and the overall migration policy will have — and the overall migration policy will have to be decided in the usual way. will have to be decided in the usual way but— will have to be decided in the usual way but i— will have to be decided in the usual way. but i cannot. for will have to be decided in the usual way. but i cannot.— way. but i cannot. for those olicies way. but i cannot. for those policies will _ way. but i cannot. for those policies will be. _ way. but i cannot. for those policies will be. but - way. but i cannot. for those policies will be. but there i way. but i cannot. for those i policies will be. but there were reports that suella braverman and the prime minister didn't see i touye, or is that wrong? i the prime minister didn't see i touye, or is that wrong? i hope you won't mind — touye, or is that wrong? i hope you

won't mind me _ touye, or is that wrong? i hope you won't mind me saying, _ touye, or is that wrong? i hope you won't mind me saying, we - touye, or is that wrong? i hope you won't mind me saying, we don't - touye, or is that wrong? i hope you | won't mind me saying, we don't talk about— won't mind me saying, we don't talk about disagreements within government as a matter of course. i know— government as a matter of course. i know that — government as a matter of course. i know that sounds at odds with what is happening, but there will always be tension — is happening, but there will always be tension and policy. we have a process — be tension and policy. we have a process to — be tension and policy. we have a process to decide policy and as ministers — process to decide policy and as ministers we represent that policy. i am waiting to see what is and i shall— i am waiting to see what is and i shall defend it. liz i am waiting to see what is and i shall defend it.— i am waiting to see what is and i shall defend it. liz truss has now lost two very _ shall defend it. liz truss has now lost two very senior _ shall defend it. liz truss has now lost two very senior cabinet - shall defend it. liz truss has now - lost two very senior cabinet members in less than a week, that will destabilise any government, let alone one that has had the amount of turmoil you have seen this week. ls turmoil you have seen this week. is it recoverable from? it really is recoverable. it is for this reason suella _ recoverable. it is for this reason suella made a mistake, she has taken responsibility for it and resign. the prime _ responsibility for it and resign. the prime minister has accepted her resignation. this is not a moment for mps _ resignation. this is not a moment for mps to— resignation. this is not a moment for mps to be punishing the government. it is unfortunate suella made _ government. it is unfortunate suella made a _ government. it is unfortunate suella made a mistake, we have a new home secretary— made a mistake, we have a new home secretary and we move forwards and we govern _ secretary and we move forwards and we govern. you secretary and we move forwards and we covern. ., ., ., ., we govern. you have a debate going on in the commons _ we govern. you have a debate going on in the commons now— we govern. you have a debate going on in the commons now about - on in the commons now about fracking, labour�*s opposition debate. the whips have made it a

confidence motion and suggesting that anyone who doesn't vote with the government loses the whip, suspended from the parliamentary party. ls suspended from the parliamentary .a . , suspended from the parliamentary party. is it appropriate? it absolutely _ party. is it appropriate? it absolutely is, _ party. is it appropriate? it absolutely is, but - party. is it appropriate? it absolutely is, but it - party. is it appropriate? it absolutely is, but it is - party. is it appropriate? it absolutely is, but it is not| party. is it appropriate? it- absolutely is, but it is not about fracking — absolutely is, but it is not about fracking. making it a confidence vote, _ fracking. making it a confidence vote, the — fracking. making it a confidence vote, the motion as its table hands control— vote, the motion as its table hands control of— vote, the motion as its table hands control of the house of commons to the labour— control of the house of commons to the labour party and that is why it is a confidence issue. it doesn't matter— is a confidence issue. it doesn't matter what the rest of the text is, if the _ matter what the rest of the text is, if the motion hands control to the labour— if the motion hands control to the labour party and effectively makes them _ labour party and effectively makes them the _ labour party and effectively makes them the government, any conservative who votes for that, should _ conservative who votes for that, should lose the whip. we could lose our majority and that puts us into general— our majority and that puts us into general election territory. it is not a — general election territory. it is not a moment for conservative mps to be playing _ not a moment for conservative mps to be playing games. they need to accept _ be playing games. they need to accept you cannot give control to the labour— accept you cannot give control to the labour party, vote with the government and move on. steve baker, thank ou government and move on. steve baker, thank you very — government and move on. steve baker, thank you very much. _ government and move on. steve baker, thank you very much. steve _ government and move on. steve baker, thank you very much. steve baker, - thank you very much. steve baker, minister in the government you heard him saying he believes liz truss can move on from this and the government

can recover. there is no doubt this has been massively destabilising again for the government on yet another day which has been a week of turmoil. and when she was starting to steady the ship on the surface, it goes to show how unpredictable everything is at the moment. helen, thank ou. everything is at the moment. helen, thank you- let's _ everything is at the moment. helen, thank you. let's go _ everything is at the moment. helen, thank you. let's go back— everything is at the moment. helen, thank you. let's go back to - thank you. let's go back to alexander brown who we were talking to before i rudely interrupted you, alex. what do you make up the level of instability that we have now into this evening at the very highest echelon of this government? the coalition of— echelon of this government? inez coalition of chaos, echelon of this government? t“ie: coalition of chaos, as suella braverman put it yesterday. the whole point of the tory party is to maintain itself in government. mps say to me, that is their main function, it is to win. at the moment they are not in a position to win and they cannot govern properly because they are so busy fighting each other, the chance of a general

election will increase. we heard steve baker saying that tory mps should not play games. some of the policies being announced and then dropped, eve turns into that from the government, it will be difficult for the government to get on board with. ., , for the government to get on board with. . , ., for the government to get on board with. ., ., _ for the government to get on board with. ., ., ., ,, for the government to get on board with. ., ., «r ., with. pleased to say we can talk to rachel sylvester _ with. pleased to say we can talk to rachel sylvester he _ with. pleased to say we can talk to rachel sylvester he was _ with. pleased to say we can talk to rachel sylvester he was one - with. pleased to say we can talk to rachel sylvester he was one of - with. pleased to say we can talk to | rachel sylvester he was one of this country's leading columnist, political journalist country's leading columnist, politicaljournalist for country's leading columnist, political journalist for the times newspaper. what an extraordinary day, what do you make of it, what do you think is behind it? was it a resignation or a sacking of suella braverman? it resignation or a sacking of suella braverman?— resignation or a sacking of suella braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds _ braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds to _ braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds to the _ braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds to the chaos _ braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds to the chaos at - braverman? it looks like sacking, but it adds to the chaos at the i braverman? it looks like sacking, | but it adds to the chaos at the top of the government, it feels like the whole thing is a shambles. for liz truss to lose one holder of one of the great officers of state would be extraordinary, but she has lost two now, the chancellor and the home

secretary. it does give the impression the wheels are falling off this government and particularly in downing street. irate off this government and particularly in downing street.— off this government and particularly in downing street. we are told grant sha s' car in downing street. we are told grant shapps" car is _ in downing street. we are told grant shapps" car is at _ in downing street. we are told grant shapps' car is at the _ in downing street. we are told grant shapps' car is at the home _ in downing street. we are told grant shapps' car is at the home office, i shapps' car is at the home office, he is the new home secretary. he was a rishi sunak supporter, what does that tell you about, is it a new direction in this government, to make it a broader coalition. there is grant shapps at the home office, just arriving for work. extraordinary, because she got rid of him when she came in as prime minister and now he is home secretary. minister and now he is home secretary-— minister and now he is home secreta . , ., ., , minister and now he is home secreta , ., ., , secretary. absolutely, not only was he one of rishi _ secretary. absolutely, not only was he one of rishi sunak's _ secretary. absolutely, not only was he one of rishi sunak's leading - he one of rishi sunak's leading supporters, he has been the keeper of the plotter�*s spreadsheet, counting up the numbers of mps who are hostile to liz truss and wanting to get rid of her. by bringing him into the fold, she is signalling that she wants to bring the rebels into the tent. it is also another sign of her weakness... irate into the tent. it is also another sign of her weakness... we will listen. sign of her weakness... we will listen- to _ sign of her weakness... we will listen. to make _ sign of her weakness... we will listen. to make sure _ sign of her weakness... we will listen. to make sure people i sign of her weakness... we will listen. to make sure people of| sign of her weakness... we will. listen. to make sure people of this country— listen. to make sure people of this country know they have security and

that is _ country know they have security and that is why — country know they have security and that is why it is a great honour to be appointed as home secretary. i am looking _ be appointed as home secretary. i am looking forward to getting stuck into the — looking forward to getting stuck into the role and providing the security— into the role and providing the security of the british people need, regardless of what is happening otherwise in westminster. i am looking — otherwise in westminster. i am looking forward to getting on the with the — looking forward to getting on the with the job and thank you for coming — with the job and thank you for coming out this evening. has this broken key _ coming out this evening. has this broken key pledges, _ coming out this evening. has this broken key pledges, particularlyl coming out this evening. has this l broken key pledges, particularly on migration? — broken key pledges, particularly on migration? tfou— broken key pledges, particularly on miaration? ., ., ., migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes— migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes into _ migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes into the _ migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes into the job _ migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes into the job so _ migration? you will forgive me, i am ten minutes into the job so we'll - ten minutes into the job so we'll refrain _ ten minutes into the job so we'll refrain from commenting on the specifics— refrain from commenting on the specifics of this role for a second. i specifics of this role for a second. i accept _ specifics of this role for a second. i accept the — specifics of this role for a second. i accept the government has had a very difficult period. asjeremy hunt _ very difficult period. asjeremy hunt said — very difficult period. asjeremy hunt said when he was appointed on friday. _ hunt said when he was appointed on friday. that — hunt said when he was appointed on friday, that nonetheless means it is doubly— friday, that nonetheless means it is doubly important to ensure we are doing _ doubly important to ensure we are doing absolutely everything in the basic errors. i thinkjeremy hunt has done — basic errors. i thinkjeremy hunt has done a — basic errors. i thinkjeremy hunt has done a greatjob of basic errors. i thinkjeremy hunt has done a great job of settling the issues _ has done a great job of settling the issues relating to that mini budget. i issues relating to that mini budget. i want _ issues relating to that mini budget. i want to— issues relating to that mini budget. i want to be here at the home office

doing _ i want to be here at the home office doing one _ i want to be here at the home office doing one of the most important roles— doing one of the most important roles in— doing one of the most important roles in government are making sure people _ roles in government are making sure people feel— roles in government are making sure people feel secure and protected. she said _ people feel secure and protected. she said it— people feel secure and protected. she said it is important to own up to mistakes— she said it is important to own up to mistakes implying _ she said it is important to own up to mistakes implying the - she said it is important to own up to mistakes implying the prime i to mistakes implying the prime minister— to mistakes implying the prime minister has _ to mistakes implying the prime minister has not _ to mistakes implying the prime minister has not owned - to mistakes implying the prime minister has not owned up- to mistakes implying the prime minister has not owned up to i to mistakes implying the prime i minister has not owned up to her mistakes? — minister has not owned up to her mistakes? ., ., ., ., ., ., ., mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had — mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had a — mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had a chance _ mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had a chance to _ mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had a chance to catch - mistakes? you are at an advantage, i haven't had a chance to catch up - haven't had a chance to catch up with _ haven't had a chance to catch up with what — haven't had a chance to catch up with what the previous home secretary was saying. it is an important _ secretary was saying. it is an importantjob to do secretary was saying. it is an important job to do and people e>

5 home office �*“�*3'“ ”w” 5 home qéggeszfice is �*3'“ ”w” 5 home qéggeszfice is his 3 ”w” inside the home office. that is his newjob. with a little bit of understatement, he said this has been a difficult period for the government. well, it certainly has. let's go back to rachel sylvester, political commentator for the times newspaper in a very windy westminster. it is a stormy westminster, in more ways than one. westminster, in more ways than one. we werejust westminster, in more ways than one. we were just reflecting on how extraordinary it is that grant shapps were just saying, he was sacked from his role as transport secretary by liz truss, now she has elevated him to the home office. what is her thinking? is she trying to bring her enemies closer to her? absolutely, she hasn't got the strength not to do that. the interview he did was fascinating and revealing. it is a reminder the two jobs are the most important at the moment, chancellorat jobs are the most important at the moment, chancellor at the time of economic instability and home secretary at a time of national

security threat. both of those roles have changed and the instability at the top in those two departments, really is incredibly unsettling for the country. never mind the government, this matters for all of us, that is why it is important. where does this leave liz truss question watched her at prime minister's questions, she said i am a fighter and not a quitter. it looked like she was talking to the tory mps alongside her and behind it? ., , ., ., ., it? you 'ust have to look at the faces it? you just have to look at the faces of those _ it? you just have to look at the faces of those tory _ it? you just have to look at the faces of those tory mps. - it? you just have to look at the faces of those tory mps. i - it? you just have to look at the - faces of those tory mps. i messaged one of those mps after pmqs how long has she got? he said, not long. there isn't a single mp i have spoken to who think she will lead them into the next general election and nor is there one who wants her to. it is a question of when she goes and how. the only thing at the moment that is protecting her is the fact her critics cannot agree on who

they want to replace her. which is a very fragile for any prime minister to find themselves in. truth? very fragile for any prime minister to find themselves in.— to find themselves in. why can't they agree? _ to find themselves in. why can't they agree? there _ to find themselves in. why can't they agree? there is _ to find themselves in. why can't they agree? there is rishi - to find themselves in. why can't| they agree? there is rishi sunak to find themselves in. why can't - they agree? there is rishi sunak who lost the leadership contest, they don't want him, not enough of him want him? ~ ., , don't want him, not enough of him want him? . . , ,., don't want him, not enough of him want him?— want him? what is so interesting about suella _ want him? what is so interesting about suella braverman's - want him? what is so interesting - about suella braverman's resignation letter, the sting in the tail at the end where she criticised the direction of government policy. not only is she not going quietly, she is setting herself very much up as the champion of the right—wing of tory party. this letter or this briefing paper she appears to have leaked on e—mail relating to immigration, that perhaps is part of this campaign she has been running to position herself as the candidate of the right of the party. all the attacks on the woe, tofu eating, guardian reading liberals she did in her speech. guardian reading liberals she did in herspeech. she guardian reading liberals she did in her speech. she is setting herself up her speech. she is setting herself up as the figurehead of the right.

she is saying, if you think you can have a stitch up for rishi sunak, think again. have a stitch up for rishi sunak, think again-— have a stitch up for rishi sunak, think aaain. _, ., , think again. the bottom line is, the to -a think again. the bottom line is, the tory party is _ think again. the bottom line is, the tory party is still — think again. the bottom line is, the tory party is still at _ think again. the bottom line is, the tory party is still at war— think again. the bottom line is, the tory party is still at war with - tory party is still at war with itself? , , ., ., ., , itself? yes, it is extraordinary. liz truss itself? yes, it is extraordinary. liz truss is _ itself? yes, it is extraordinary. liz truss is unable _ itself? yes, it is extraordinary. liz truss is unable to _ itself? yes, it is extraordinary. liz truss is unable to control. itself? yes, it is extraordinary. l liz truss is unable to control the competing factions because she hasn't got the authority. she wasn't the choice of the tory mps for the leader, she was, in the way they see it, imposed on them by the party members and a lot of mps are determined the next leader shouldn't be chosen by the party members. but that will cause a huge fuss in the country among the party members if they try to edge them out of the process. you can see the reasons why she might stay, is the inability to resolve these problems. but it is hard to see that lasting until the next general election.— hard to see that lasting until the next general election. what is the mechanism _ next general election. what is the mechanism if— next general election. what is the mechanism if tory _ next general election. what is the mechanism if tory mps _ next general election. what is the mechanism if tory mps are - next general election. what is the mechanism if tory mps are going | next general election. what is the i mechanism if tory mps are going to depose her in favour of whoever else might be the replacement, what is

the mechanism?— might be the replacement, what is the mechanism? they would write to sir graham brady, _ the mechanism? they would write to sir graham brady, who _ the mechanism? they would write to sir graham brady, who has _ the mechanism? they would write to sir graham brady, who has raised i the mechanism? they would write to | sir graham brady, who has raised the threshold from 15% to 30% of mps to have no confidence in her. but it is unclear, to be honest, if enough mps decide they want her gone, there is a kind of a general understanding that her position would become untenable. but the mysterious men in grey suits will go to her and say, your time is grey suits will go to her and say, yourtime is up. grey suits will go to her and say, your time is up. but in orderfor that to really work and for there to be an easy, coherent transition and not cause more instability and chaos and further unsettle the markets, is for there to be in agreement on who should take over.— should take over. rachel, it is alwa s should take over. rachel, it is always good — should take over. rachel, it is always good to _ should take over. rachel, it is always good to get _ should take over. rachel, it is always good to get your - should take over. rachel, it is i always good to get your analysis. thank you so much. rachel sylvester from the times newspaper with her thoughts and analysis of this extraordinary day at westminster. another extraordinary day, it has to

be said, the latest in a long line of extraordinary days.— be said, the latest in a long line of extraordinary days. let's go back to helen. of extraordinary days. let's go back to helen- every _ of extraordinary days. let's go back to helen. every day _ of extraordinary days. let's go back to helen. every day is _ of extraordinary days. let's go back to helen. every day is an _ to helen. every day is an extraordinary day in westminster. what is interesting about this one is quite how it has unfolded. we started the day in a sense of relative calm, the big test we thought liz truss was going to face this morning was how she performed at prime minister's questions. she got to that, nothing to massively shift the dial one way or another, she seemed to get through that competently, she talked about being a fighter and not a quitter. everything seemed to be stabilising a little, but then you move into the afternoon and you have this unexpected departure of a major figure in government, the home secretary. with that, a kick she gave, she chose to give on the way out in her resignation letter. that is quite important, she could have said, i have made this mistake, i am

going to go because i need to. but she actively chose to put a paragraph in that letter criticising the government's direction of travel at a time machine is a minister is vulnerable. where are we this evening? it feels unstable once again. we have seen one home secretary depart and grant shapps brought in. he was sacked five or six weeks ago by liz truss. it gives an indication of what this means for liz truss and her ability to govern, even as she stays in downing street. she is having to bring in people from other sides of the party who were not her first choice for the cabinet, otherwise he would have already been in it. the end of in this position once again of instability. government ministers insist it can be moved on from and they can get back to work and carry on. but it will not take much to keepjust this on. but it will not take much to keep just this constant series of events that are buffeting the prime

minister and underline how unstable her position is. this evening, we will get a vote quite shortly on labour's motion on fracking. at least three conservative mps have said they will not be voting for that and the conservative whips said it was a motion of confidence so therefore you are expecting those mps are likely to be suspended from the parliamentary party. that creates more instability. we are in a different place this evening than we were this morning.— a different place this evening than we were this morning. helen, thank ou ve we were this morning. helen, thank you very much- _ the atmosphere has been pretty fee brown tonight. joining us now for some more reaction is the advocacy director of thejoint some more reaction is the advocacy

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