hello i'm shaun ley live from westminister — where it's been another tumultuous day in british politics. another day of drama, another day of crisis. in another blow to prime minister liz truss — suella braverman has resigned as home secretary — the second cabinet minister to go in less than a week. replacing her in the job is former transport secretary grant shapps. he wasn't a supporter of liz truss

during the conservative leadership contest this summer. we can see the scene live at westminster where the vote is on fracking. it is a motion tabled by the opposition labour party and the government has said it is treating it as a vote of confidence in the government. it is not expected that more than a handful of conservative mps will vote against the government tonight, even though they oppose the change in fracking policy, which reverses the government's position from the last general election manifesto. the prime minister is facing widespread discontent and today she took part in her first premises questions after ditching her flagship tax cuts less than a week ago from the mini budget. let's talk to our political

correspondent, helen carter. we will stay looking at the pictures of the house of commons as mps file back in. can you give us a snapshot summary for viewers watching you have just tuned in, summary for viewers watching you havejust tuned in, many summary for viewers watching you have just tuned in, many from around the world, about what has been going on? i the world, about what has been going on? . ., , u, the world, about what has been going on? . ., , ., the world, about what has been going on? . ., , u, ., . on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot — on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot because _ on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot because it _ on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot because it has - on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot because it has been i on? i am not sure i can do it in a snapshot because it has been anj snapshot because it has been an incredible day. i will start at the beginning and work through. this money, liz truss appeared to have calmed for a while, some of the discussions that were going on among her mps about her immediate future. so it seemed things were slightly calmer. she had her weekly session of prime minister's questions, every british prime minister does this, they have half—an—hour in the commons where they take questions from all party mps directly. they take questions from the leader of the opposition who quizzes them on government policy and this was seen as a real test in how she performed.

it was the first time she had faced mps directly since a lot of her programme for government was pretty much ripped up by her new chancellor on monday. she got through that ok. we spoke to mps afterwards and they said yes, she did a decentjob. by midday, things looked to be going for liz truss. then visit she was supposed to be going on didn't happen. the rumours emerged the former home secretary now, suella braverman is about to depart from her post. she has and she resigned for what they call a breach of ministerial code. she used her personal e—mail to send a statement to someone she shouldn't have done in parliament. she has resigned from herjob but in her resignation letter she was critical of liz truss' government. in the meantime, liz truss has appointed a new home

secretary, grant shapps, the former transport minister, to take her place. that is instability, isn't it? to lose a very senior ministers, the home secretary is a very senior post in the uk, she lost the chancellor last week and replaced him, and now the home secretary and replaced her. they are from different parts of the party and that shows instability. now there is no confusion. the bell has just rang which signals mps need to signal on this motion you described. this morning, the whips in charge of party management in westminster told tory mps it would be a confidence vote. and that means if they voted against it they would be suspended from the conservative parliamentary party and also if the government lost it, the prime minister would resign. the press secretary said she would not resign no matter the

outcome and in the last few minutes, we have been told it is no longer a confidence vote, so we don't know what will happen to mps who voted against it. but a day of confusion and instability. i against it. but a day of confusion and instability.— and instability. i have a feeling --eole and instability. i have a feeling peeple will _ and instability. i have a feeling people will still _ and instability. i have a feeling people will still need _ and instability. i have a feeling people will still need a - and instability. i have a feeling people will still need a lot - and instability. i have a feeling people will still need a lot of i and instability. i have a feeling l people will still need a lot of this information repeated more than once this evening and we will do our best. i was very struck by a phrase in suella braverman�*s letter to the prime minister. a couple of things struck me, i will be interested in your opinion, there was no, "thank your opinion, there was no, "thank you for appointing me and i had the honour to serve in your government". even when people are forced out, they write something like that. in this, she said the government relies on people accepting responsibility for their mistakes, pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if everyone cannot see we have

made mistakes and hoping things will magically come right is not serious politics. i have made a mistake, i accept responsibility, i resign. is the implication of this that she thinks that is what liz truss should have done? it thinks that is what liz truss should have done?— thinks that is what liz truss should have done? it is certainly a pointed remark, have done? it is certainly a pointed remark. you _ have done? it is certainly a pointed remark. you are — have done? it is certainly a pointed remark, you are right. _ have done? it is certainly a pointed remark, you are right. the - have done? it is certainly a pointed remark, you are right. the point. have done? it is certainly a pointed. remark, you are right. the point she goes on to make about the direction of the government are a very clear kick at what liz truss is doing. i spoke to an ally of suella braverman, steve baker, a current minister in liz truss' government but when suella braverman ran for the leadership of the conservative party over the summer, he was her campaign manager. he insisted that suella braverman would have stayed in the government had she not made this mistake. but suella braverman is an experienced politician, she knows what writing those words will do. she knows the effect they will have on the government that is already pretty unstable and really

fighting fires hour by hour. i think what is going to be key to watch over the coming hours and days, she also said she command support among also said she command support among a particular section of the conservative party. it will be key to watch what happens over the coming hours and days in response to this. we coming hours and days in response to this. ~ , , this. we will still stay with -ictures this. we will still stay with pictures of _ this. we will still stay with pictures of the _ this. we will still stay with pictures of the commons. | this. we will still stay with - pictures of the commons. mps have eight minutes to vote after the division bell rings, which is why there are division bells, not only in the house of commons, but also in some people's flats if they live close to westminster. they have to vote in person, even during covid they was available to vote technically, but that has gone now. we will get the results soon after that once the clerks, who are officials of the house of commons have counted the votes and then the tellers for the two sides will line

up tellers for the two sides will line up in front of the clocks table at the top centre of the picture and they will tell as the outcome of the results. let's talk to johnson riley, a westminster editor at the sun on sunday newspaper in london. jonathan, taking apart what is going on here, the home secretary, former home secretary said she resigned because she technically broke the ministerial code by sending an e—mail. there will be people who will read into that, but is this resignation about the departure of the prime ministerfrom policy position she previously adopted? good evening. it certainly is a change in the shape of her cabinet with grant shapps coming in. suella was way to the right of the party and grant shapps is an ardent rishi sunak supporter. she was rumoured to have sacked him when she became prime ministerfive

have sacked him when she became prime minister five weeks ago by saying, you are a very good communicator but i cannot have you in my cabinet because he was such a vocal supporter of my opposition. now, five weeks later here he is coming in to save the day, what are we? four orfive days coming in to save the day, what are we? four or five days afterjeremy hunt came in to replace kwasi kwarteng. the shape of her cabinet is looking very different. we have seen the death of trussenomic over the last few weeks. now we will see a change on policing and migration. suella braverman is regarded as a hard—line figure on immigration and regarded as someone who is concerned about the level of illegal migration, people arriving to seek asylum and the process coming into the country on boats has been

illegal by this government. there seems to be attention pursuing that position and the push for growth. is that where the prime minister appears to be bowing to the chancellor and not taking the side of her home secretary? is it a sign of her home secretary? is it a sign of tension?— of her home secretary? is it a sign of tension? tl! j 5.4...» .,~:'.;.~- tension of tension? t2; j j-jj-j, .,~j'j.~- tension that of tension? was . tension that_ of tension? imam . tension that has clearly - of tension? gnaw . tension that has clearly blown i boat issue, that ie [shie- mejsjjj suella the w ;m:::::::: legal truss legal tntmigration. truss �*dash. tntmigration. up up borders to up boi’l order types ofjobs and people in order to supercharge britain's economy.

suella wanted to see those numbers dropping, she wanted to cut the number of students coming in, cut the number of dependents of students coming in. she certainly didn't want to be seen things like agricultural workers visas increase, which the government said they would be. there was talk of, and it sounds like the security breach was around suella sending a ministerial statement to an ally of hers, surrounding potential decisions on who would be allowed to come in to help grow the economy. that seems to have been the underlying tension that has caused this latest row in the administration. i this latest row in the administration. ~ ., administration. i think we are caettin administration. i think we are getting very _ administration. i think we are getting very close _ administration. i think we are getting very close to - administration. i think we are getting very close to the - administration. i think we are | getting very close to the vote. administration. i think we are l getting very close to the vote. i will ask you a quick question but then i might have to interrupt you. very noticeable a few days ago, we had an unexpected announcement that plans to get an indian trade deal agreed had been delayed and i wonder if this could be of the question of visas for indian migrant workers? yes, that was a certain area of

tension that was... the government were not agreed on the point, let alone being able to put something in front of another government's trade delegation. one of the points they wanted to relax visas on was on lawyers. the indian legal system is very similar to our own and it is worth a lot of business litigation, it is worth a lot to our economy. being able to bring in indian lawyers to work short term and cases would have been a boost to the economy. however, that is an area where there was tension. there was a perception we didn't want... suella didn't want to be seen rather, to be opening up the doors of the nation to immigrants around the world to work in all sorts of industries. she wanted to see the old—fashioned immigration cap brought back in, which was quietly scrapped under borisjohnson, i believe, where we

went back to the days where we wear as a nation, hoping to bring in something like tens of thousands of immigrants per year, something like tens of thousands of immigrants peryear, not something like tens of thousands of immigrants per year, not the hundreds and thousands that we have seen and the many more when we were part of the eu. it is that friction that really goes to the heart of that really goes to the heart of that disagreement between these two, what is essential part of the government, the home secretary and the prime minister.— the prime minister. jonathan riley, for now, the prime minister. jonathan riley, for now. thank— the prime minister. jonathan riley, for now, thank you _ the prime minister. jonathan riley, for now, thank you very _ the prime minister. jonathan riley, for now, thank you very much. - the prime minister. jonathan riley, i for now, thank you very much. helen is still with us, we are waiting for the two sides to line up and deliver the two sides to line up and deliver the vote. just a quick question, am i right in thinking that cabinet ministers are able to make a personal statement now to the commons to explain why they have left the government. can we expect that from suella braverman in the next few days? it that from suella braverman in the next few days?— next few days? it certainly is correct they _ next few days? it certainly is correct they are _ next few days? it certainly is correct they are able - next few days? it certainly is correct they are able to - next few days? it certainly is correct they are able to do i next few days? it certainly is i correct they are able to do that, they can choose to and off the top of my head, sajid javid chose to when he resigned as chancellor. we

will be looking with eagerness to see, i think, will be looking with eagerness to see, ithink, whether suella braverman decides whether she is going to go down that route. at the moment i don't know if that is going to happen, but we will be keeping an eye on the other paper in the house of commons to see if she pops up for that, yes. i of commons to see if she pops up for that, es. 1. , ., of commons to see if she pops up for that, es. , ., ~ , that, yes. i can see two mps hovering _ that, yes. i can see two mps hovering in _ that, yes. i can see two mps hovering in the _ that, yes. i can see two mps hovering in the centre - that, yes. i can see two mps hovering in the centre and l that, yes. i can see two mpsl hovering in the centre and we usually have them in tears. i can't quite see tears of them lining up. did the government of any indication, apart from what the minister said at the dispatch box, why this vote has suddenly ceased to be a vote of confidence given there has been much expectation of a big rebellion, in fact a small rebellion precisely because it was a vote of confidence?— precisely because it was a vote of confidence? 1, ., , , confidence? know, there has been no exoianation- — confidence? know, there has been no exoianation- an _ confidence? know, there has been no explanation. an e-mail _ confidence? know, there has been no explanation. an e-mail went - confidence? know, there has been no explanation. an e-mail went out - confidence? know, there has been noj explanation. an e-mail went out from explanation. an e—mail went out from the whips this morning to conservative mps saying this is a confidence vote. and that is because what labour was asking for was to

take control of parliamentary business for the day so they could put through a bill that would ban fracking. the whip said you cannot do that so anybody, this is a confidence vote which implies anyone who voted against it would be suspended from the parliamentary party. if it is a confidence vote, it would mean if the government loss, the prime minister by convention would go to the king and resign and say, this is my successor or dissolve parliament and have a general election. journalist asked the prime minister's press secretary at lunchtime and he said the prime minister is not resigning no matter what happens. now we have the minister saying no, what happens. now we have the ministersaying no, it what happens. now we have the minister saying no, it is not. so it is all very confusing as to whether or not it is and what will happen to mps who have chosen to vote with the government, who perhaps if it is a straight vote and fracking are not seen as a confidence vote would have voted against it. there is a lot of confusion this evening. irate

voted against it. there is a lot of confusion this evening.— voted against it. there is a lot of confusion this evening. we have a oli of confusion this evening. we have a policy of bbc _ confusion this evening. we have a policy of bbc news _ confusion this evening. we have a policy of bbc news under - confusion this evening. we have a policy of bbc news under our - confusion this evening. we have a policy of bbc news under our newj policy of bbc news under our new leadership of letting the light in, trying to reveal more of behind the scenes of what we do, getting people to understand how we convey the information we do. traditionally we only report things as we have confirmed them but in the fast—moving world of continuous news, with things being reported all over the place, the important thing is to let people know what is being said and be clear when we cannot report —— confirm it. the sun is reporting that the chief whip, wendy morton has resigned. it is only being reported by the sun newspaper at the moment. it is being reported by the sun newspaper at the moment.— at the moment. it is 'ust coming throu~h at the moment. it is 'ust coming through on t at the moment. it is 'ust coming through on my _ at the moment. it isjust coming through on my phone, _ at the moment. it isjust coming through on my phone, being - at the moment. it isjust coming - through on my phone, being reported ljy through on my phone, being reported by the sun newspaper, i am literally texting people as i talk to, to find out if this is the case. but you are right, that would be an enormous move if that has happened as well.

the chief whip is the person who is brought in to manage the party, to manage party discipline. if you have lost lots of cabinet ministers and now the chief whip, that would be massively destabilising for the government and the adds to this sense, thingsjust government and the adds to this sense, things just really loosening at the seams here, so i think we will be doing our best to try and confirm it that has happened. and wendy morton, the chief whip, she was brought in by liz truss and she was brought in by liz truss and she was the first ever female conservative chief whip. if they have managed to lose that within a short time frame as well, it is embarrassing for the government. the de . u embarrassing for the government. the deputy speaker eleanor laing, the mp for epping forest in essex calling the house to order. it maybe we're not about to get to the division, helen, carry on, and i will keep my

eyes peeled. i helen, carry on, and i will keep my eyes peeled-— eyes peeled. i was using that opportunity _ eyes peeled. i was using that opportunity to _ eyes peeled. i was using that opportunity to find _ eyes peeled. i was using that opportunity to find these - eyes peeled. i was using that i opportunity to find these things eyes peeled. i was using that - opportunity to find these things out for you, things are moving so fast and i want to monitor my phone. we are waiting in the meantime on that division, but if it is not a confidence vote because it is unclear about what is going to happen to mps against the government, it is difficult to judge what it means. if you have a lot of people voting against the government, that is a further sign of a declining authority. what we have gone through today, things felt relatively stable this morning, relatively stable this morning, relatively under control. that has completely exploded this afternoon, yet again. you have now lost a seniorfigure in the yet again. you have now lost a senior figure in the form of the home secretary, she has chosen to have a go at the government on her way out. right now, you are getting these rumours that the chief whip

has gone, we are trying to find out if that is correct. this is starting to smack of a complete loss of. the pressure on liz truss is that she needs to show she has got a grip. they are lining up.— the ayes to the right, 230 the noes to the left, 136. the ayes to the right, 230 the noes to the left. 136-— to the left, 136. order, order. the a es to to the left, 136. order, order. the ayes to the _ to the left, 136. order, order. the ayes to the right, _ to the left, 136. order, order. the ayes to the right, 230. _ to the left, 136. order, order. the ayes to the right, 230. the - to the left, 136. order, order. the ayes to the right, 230. the noes l to the left, 136. order, order. the | ayes to the right, 230. the noes to the left. _ ayes to the right, 230. the noes to the left, 326, the noes have it, the noes _ the left, 326, the noes have it, the noes have — the left, 326, the noes have it, the noes have it — the left, 326, the noes have it, the noes have it. unlock. the point of

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if you could clarify that during the debate we just had the _ if you could clarify that during the debate we just had the minister. debate we just had the minister from the dispatch— debate we just had the minister from the dispatch box— debate we just had the minister from the dispatch box closing _ debate we just had the minister from the dispatch box closing the - debate we just had the minister from the dispatch box closing the debate i the dispatch box closing the debate informed _ the dispatch box closing the debate informed his— the dispatch box closing the debate informed his colleagues _ the dispatch box closing the debate informed his colleagues this i the dispatch box closing the debate informed his colleagues this was i the dispatch box closing the debatel informed his colleagues this was not a vote _ informed his colleagues this was not a vote of— informed his colleagues this was not a vote of confidence. _ informed his colleagues this was not a vote of confidence. yet _ informed his colleagues this was not a vote of confidence. yet we i informed his colleagues this was not a vote of confidence. yet we saw- a vote of confidence. yet we saw area _ a vote of confidence. yet we saw area in _ a vote of confidence. yet we saw area in writing _ a vote of confidence. yet we saw area in writing from _ a vote of confidence. yet we saw area in writing from the - area in writing from the government's— area in writing from the government's deputy. area in writing from the i government's deputy chief area in writing from the - government's deputy chief whip area in writing from the _ government's deputy chief whip that it was. _ government's deputy chief whip that it was. could — government's deputy chief whip that it was. could it — government's deputy chief whip that it was. could it be _ government's deputy chief whip that it was. could it be possible _ government's deputy chief whip that it was. could it be possible but- it was. could it be possible but members _ it was. could it be possible but members opposite _ it was. could it be possible but members opposite voted i it was. could it be possible but members opposite voted in i it was. could it be possible but| members opposite voted in the division — members opposite voted in the divisioniust_ members opposite voted in the divisionjust now— members opposite voted in the division just now without i members opposite voted in the division just now without any. division just now without any clarity — division just now without any clarity as— division just now without any clarity as to _ division just now without any clarity as to what _ division just now without any clarity as to what it - division just now without any clarity as to what it was i division just now without any clarity as to what it was theyj division just now without any- clarity as to what it was they were actually _ clarity as to what it was they were actually voting _ clarity as to what it was they were actually voting for? _ clarity as to what it was they were actually voting for? i— clarity as to what it was they were actually voting for?— actually voting for? i thank the honourable _ actually voting for? i thank the honourable gentleman i actually voting for? i thank the honourable gentleman for i actually voting for? i thank the honourable gentleman for his. actually voting for? i thank the i honourable gentleman for his point, which _ honourable gentleman for his point, which is _ honourable gentleman for his point, which is of— honourable gentleman for his point, which is of course, not a point of order— which is of course, not a point of order for— which is of course, not a point of order for the _ which is of course, not a point of order for the chair. my concern is what _ order for the chair. my concern is what it— order for the chair. my concern is what it says — order for the chair. my concern is what it says in the order paper is correct _ what it says in the order paper is correct and — what it says in the order paper is correct and accurate and it is. i thank— correct and accurate and it is. i thank the — correct and accurate and it is. i thank the honourable gentleman for the point _ thank the honourable gentleman for the point he raises, but it is not one on which i canjudge. ministers are responsible for their own words. is it are responsible for their own words. is it a _ are responsible for their own words. is it a point — are responsible for their own words. is it a point of order, mr bryant?

madame. — is it a point of order, mr bryant? madame, deputy speaker i would urge you to _ madame, deputy speaker i would urge you to launch _ madame, deputy speaker i would urge you to launch an — madame, deputy speaker i would urge you to launch an investigation - madame, deputy speaker i would urge you to launch an investigation into i you to launch an investigation into the scenes— you to launch an investigation into the scenes outside _ you to launch an investigation into the scenes outside the _ you to launch an investigation into the scenes outside the entrance . you to launch an investigation into| the scenes outside the entrance to the scenes outside the entrance to the noes _ the scenes outside the entrance to the noes lobby— the scenes outside the entrance to the noes lobby early. _ the scenes outside the entrance to the noes lobby early. members i the scenes outside the entrance to| the noes lobby early. members are expected _ the noes lobby early. members are expected to — the noes lobby early. members are expected to vote without _ the noes lobby early. members are expected to vote without fear i the noes lobby early. members are expected to vote without fear or. expected to vote without fear or favour _ expected to vote without fear or favour and — expected to vote without fear or favour and the _ expected to vote without fear or favour and the behaviour- expected to vote without fear or favour and the behaviour code l expected to vote without fear or. favour and the behaviour code said there _ favour and the behaviour code said there should — favour and the behaviour code said there should never— favour and the behaviour code said there should never be _ favour and the behaviour code said there should never be bullying i favour and the behaviour code said there should never be bullying ori there should never be bullying or harassment. _ there should never be bullying or harassment. isil_ there should never be bullying or harassment. isil members i there should never be bullying or harassment. isil members beingl harassment. isil members being physically— harassment. isil members being physically manhandled - harassment. isil members being physically manhandled into i harassment. isil members being i physically manhandled into another lobby. _ physically manhandled into another lobby. and — physically manhandled into another lobby. and being _ physically manhandled into another lobby. and being bullied. _ physically manhandled into another lobby. and being bullied. if- physically manhandled into another lobby. and being bullied. if we i physically manhandled into anotherl lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand _ lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand up — lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand up against _ lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand up against bullying - lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand up against bullying in i lobby. and being bullied. if we want to stand up against bullying in this. to stand up against bullying in this house _ to stand up against bullying in this house of— to stand up against bullying in this house of our— to stand up against bullying in this house of our staff, _ to stand up against bullying in this house of our staff, we _ to stand up against bullying in this house of our staff, we have i to stand up against bullying in this house of our staff, we have to i to stand up against bullying in thisl house of our staff, we have to stop bullying _ house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in — house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in this— house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in this chamber— house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in this chamber as - house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in this chamber as well. i bullying in this chamber as well. order. _ bullying in this chamber as well. order. order. _ bullying in this chamber as well. order, order. we— bullying in this chamber as well. order, order. we are _ bullying in this chamber as well. order, order. we are talking i bullying in this chamber as well. i order, order. we are talking about behaviour. — order, order. we are talking about behaviour, we will have a little bit of good _ behaviour, we will have a little bit of good behaviour for a moment on both sides — of good behaviour for a moment on both sides of the house! the

honourable gentleman raises an important matter about behaviour. he knows _ important matter about behaviour. he knows better than anyone else that we have _ knows better than anyone else that we have an — knows better than anyone else that we have an extremely good system for investigating allegations of bullying, intimidation or bad behaviour. if the honourable gentleman cares to bring evidence and facts — gentleman cares to bring evidence and facts to me, i will make sure that the — and facts to me, i will make sure that the matter is properly investigated.— that the matter is properly investigated. that the matter is properly investihated. ., . , investigated. you may have seen some re hort investigated. you may have seen some report suggestions. — investigated. you may have seen some report suggestions, which _ investigated. you may have seen some report suggestions, which what i investigated. you may have seen some report suggestions, which what chris . report suggestions, which what chris bryant mp referring to, some mps may have been manhandled into the lobby to support the government. there were reports of mps in tears, we don't have any pending verification, but it is underlying the chaos that appears to have enveloped the government for days, if not weeks now. this is being demonstrated in the lobbies of the house of commons. it may also explain possibly, the

circumstances that could have led to the resignation the chief whip, wendy milne. we will keep an eye on what is happening in the house. helen, can you give us an e—mail sense of what chris bryant was referring to? he sense of what chris bryant was referring to?— sense of what chris bryant was referrin: to? , referring to? he 'ust said it there, the re-ort referring to? he just said it there, the report circulating _ referring to? he just said it there, the report circulating on i referring to? he just said it there, the report circulating on social- the report circulating on social media particularly from one particular labour mps suggesting they had seen conservative mps encouraged to enter the voting lobbies in a way that they may not have... met with parliamentary behaviour, is the better way of explaining it. when mps vote, they have to physically walk through two rooms and be counted and they are called the lobbies, they are called the aye lobby and the aye lobby. they were being made to walk through one of the lobbies in a particular

way, and that is why there was talk of them being manhandled. we do not have verification on that, but that is what chris bryant was referring to. right—macro thank you very much, we will come back to you, we may get back to the house of commons, it looks like andrea leadsome is trying to speak, i think there should be a backbench debate before the house rises for the evening. there should be a second vote.— be a second vote. sorry, i am told the will be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be _ be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be a _ be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be a second _ be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be a second vote i be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be a second vote on i be a second vote. sorry, i am told they will be a second vote on this| they will be a second vote on this piece of legislation, but everybody is heading off, presumably to the division lobbies and let's hope it will not be a troublesome and painful as it was at that point. andrea leadsome appears to be addressing the commons, so it could be we have had this and we might actually now be on... we are on a backbench debate now, rather than on

the business the government has just completed so we believe the house of commons chamber now. the activity will be happening in the corridors and the bars as or try to establish the fact that these rumours. the government chief whip, a member of the cabinet, wendy morton has resigned. it is being widely reported on social media, wendy morton is the mp for the west midlands and much was made up appointment, she was the first woman on the conservative side to become chief whip, which puts her in charge of discipline and directly answerable to the prime minister for the conduct of conservative mps. we have a former special adviser at the home office, not under suella braverman, otherwise he would have been out of a job as well. thank you for coming. let's go back on this and try to get this back to kind of basics, why did suella braverman have to resign or indeed, did she

have to resign or indeed, did she have to resign or indeed, did she have to resign? this have to resign or indeed, did she have to resign?— have to resign? this is a good question- _ have to resign? this is a good question. there _ have to resign? this is a good question. there are i have to resign? this is a good question. there are various i have to resign? this is a good i question. there are various versions of what happened. on the one hand it was a technical breach, she inadvertently copied and somebody she shouldn't have had to information that somebody was saying it will be made public tomorrow and mps had already been made aware of. i spent a few years working in the home office and there is lots of sensitive information you deal with on a day—to—day basis and security is instilled into you, so you have to be mindful. but her version is different to what we are hearing from number ten, which is the content was very market sensitive connected to the obr and therefore she had to go. in the last few months are borisjohnson, he did change the rules on the ministerial code which gave more discretion. if somebody committed a minor infraction you could have an apology, could be suspended and it didn't have to go to full

resignation. i think this points more to the disagreement over the direction of travel for the government.— direction of travel for the government. direction of travel for the hovernment. �* , , . government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally. _ government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally, didn't _ government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally, didn't do _ government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally, didn't do as i government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally, didn't do as well i government. broadly, she was a fiscal ally, didn't do as well as i fiscal ally, didn't do as well as liz truss and dropped out early. she presumably would have known the optics of this and how it would look for a prime minister who was already on the skids, to not only have fired her chancellor of the exchequer, but lost to home secretary as well. it would have men changes in two cabinetjobs in the space of a week. it adds to the picture of chaos and the challenge the idea she will not have wanted to lose the home secretary. the government is changing course, this is not the government that liz truss really wanted to lead in terms of her economic agenda, which has been completely shredded. we're now seeing a rishi sunak version of the

economic plan and we are seeing his supporters in key roles. if this is part of liz truss trying to appeal to the more broad street members of the party, this change does make more sense. the party, this change does make more sense-— with us, because things are moving as we talk. just to give you an update, the result of that voting, banning fracking have just come in. it was put down by the late position opposition party who wanted to take role of legislation, as many conservative mps saw it and take the government's hand of the tiller. it would have allowed the parliament to effectively ban fracking, contrary to what the government wanted to do. we had a moratorium and it planned to lift the moratorium and allow fracking, but only where local consent could be established. the government has one, 326 mps voted against labour's proposal, with 230

voting in favour. that only adds up to about 500?— voting in favour. that only adds up to about 500? your maths is better than mine- — to about 500? your maths is better than mine. we'll— to about 500? your maths is better than mine. we'll have _ to about 500? your maths is better than mine. we'll have to i to about 500? your maths is better than mine. we'll have to see - to about 500? your maths is better than mine. we'll have to see the i than mine. we'll have to see the final breakdown, but it does suggest a lot of mps didn't vote. just a thought about this and we will have to check when we get the breakdown, the snp were not going to vote on this motion, because fracking is a devolved matter in scotland, it is up devolved matter in scotland, it is up to the scottish government and traditionally they don't vote on the things that are devolved. they change their minds in the afternoon when they were told it was a confidence vote. at that point, the snp were voting, so we wait and see if they did not when the minister turned round in the commons and said it no longer was. that may be explained a little bit of that, so it will be interesting to see what has happened on the conservative

side. did any of those who were threatening to abstain or vote against actually do that? it is possible they did, looking at those numbers. you cannot know at this stage who voted on which side. we will have to wait longer for the breakdown of how each mp voted to pick it apart thoroughly. we were thinking there might be a second vote on this because, what the government had done, when they took labour's motion, which you've just explained was about giving labour day in parliament to put to a law to ban fracking. the government then put down an amendment which scrapped all of that and said the government would consult on how to contain... assess local consent for fracking because that is the government policy as it can only happen whether is consent but they've been hazy as to how they

would decide what consent was. there was an amendment that said they would consult on that and has passed without a vote because they have a system where they announce it in the commons and people have to shout no if they oppose it. only a couple people shouted no so the deputy speaker felt it did not need to go to a full vote so it has passed. what has happened is labour's motion has been voted down and has been replaced by this one. that has been voted down and has been replaced by this one.— replaced by this one. that expense while there — replaced by this one. that expense while there was _ replaced by this one. that expense while there was some _ replaced by this one. that expense while there was some confusion. . while there was some confusion. let's talk to sebastian. i know you will be making calls frantically as well as working your contacts to find out what is going on. there's a

huge amount of confusion here at westminster tonight. reports of bullying and intimidation of mps being physically pushed into the lobby to support the government. a large number may not have voted either way at all. the chief whip has resigned and the ongoing speculation over what prompted suella braverman�*s resignation. tell us what you know. i suella braverman's resignation. tell us what you know.— suella braverman's resignation. tell us what you know. i mean, these are ve , us what you know. i mean, these are very. very — us what you know. i mean, these are very. very chaotic— us what you know. i mean, these are very, very chaotic scenes _ us what you know. i mean, these are very, very chaotic scenes and - us what you know. i mean, these are very, very chaotic scenes and they i very, very chaotic scenes and they are very much the end of so to recap what we have had today, obviously, liz truss had to fire someone, the home secretary quipped ostensibly over an issue about breaking the ministerial code and in reality it is a big policy dispute with the prime minister. just this evening, we have seen the government's chief whip and deputy quit after this huge row over a fracking vote. this was the key thing liz truss announced to

lift the moratorium within england and that vote has been very contentious. many conservative mps don't want to see fracking go ahead. this morning, the deputy chief whip told conservative mps this would be a confidence issue. that means if you vote against it you could bring down the government and the conservative party weapon then about an hour ago the energy minister told mps it would not be a confidence issue and to be getting extraordinary reports from the voting lobbies. the chair the of commons standards committee said eocene mps been physically manhandled and believed, essentially to some the soul that we are at the end of days. this cannot go on. it is unsustainable and it is a question of when not if the trust government falls. we are talking about weeks and it feels to me as if we are 90 days if not hours. you are confirming. — we are 90 days if not hours. you are confirming. you _ we are 90 days if not hours. you are confirming, you understand - we are 90 days if not hours. you are confirming, you understand the - confirming, you understand the government chief whip has resigned

and her deputy has also gone. just to kind of help people understand about how this works, the chief whip is in charge of dip discipline but it is the deputy who manages the floor show, it is the deputy who manages the floorshow, isn't it is the deputy who manages the floor show, isn't it? it is the deputy who manages the floorshow, isn't it? ensuring information is conveyed and people know when they're supposed to vote and delivers the numbers, effectively so the chief whip can tell the payments to you will get this through or you won't get this through need to change course. yes. through need to change course. yes, that is right- — through need to change course. yes, that is right. there _ through need to change course. yes, that is right. there are _ through need to change course. i';e:3 that is right. there are reports swirling about what has gone on but thatis swirling about what has gone on but that is my understanding. i've spoken to mps who say they have quit. we are waiting for their official resignation letters, of course but fundamentally, the whole government's whipping operation is broken down over the past couple of

hours because the whip was overseeing party management and were going to make this fracking vote into a confidence vote. that now is completely fallen apart and there are reports which i can't repeat on the bbc but reports including expletives. a sense of chaos complete the enveloping the government at the moment. this is not sustainable and things will have to count ahead pretty quickly and where we had been over the past couple of days has been situations of who's going to move against the prime minister after her economic platform is ripped up and kwasi kwarteng was replaced byjeremy hunt and we've got a hostile takeover of the government by the centre and centre—left of the tory party and it feels that the matter of time before the prime minister herself is

subject to that kind of takeover so it has been one of the most chaotic i can remember since the brakes at awards of 2017 and i have a feeling it is not over yet and things will come to head tomorrow because government is reallyjust a laughing stock at the moment.— government is reallyjust a laughing stock at the moment. cannot be clear about this? — stock at the moment. cannot be clear about this? are _ stock at the moment. cannot be clear about this? are you _ stock at the moment. cannot be clear about this? are you saying _ about this? are you saying the government appears to have lost control of the parliamentary party? the fact is you've got 31 mps who voted against the government or abstained on the fracking vote. they did still get that through so there is a semblance of party management but the reports we are getting from opposition mps suggest that things are very very factious indeed. having the accusations of the deputy prime minister pushing people into voting lobbies. that is not normal. that is not a government in control of events so we'll have to wait till get a bit more detail on what exactly has gone on over the past 30

minutes or so but from my understanding it does feel as if it is spiralling out of control very quickly and the issue is how could liz truss regaine initiative and get measures through? how could you from an economic platform and you got mps doing they want at the moment? you said thins doing they want at the moment? you said things could come to a head tomorrow. it is possible that suella braverman could take the opportunity to deliver a personal statement explaining her resignation in the house of commons this afternoon. i can remember those extraordinary events when the long—suffering deputy prime minister who had been at margaret thatcher side stood up from the back benches with the prime minister sitting on the front bench looking straight ahead are not looking straight ahead are not looking back at him in which he said that he urged colleagues not to wrestle with the dilemma he had rested within his view for perhaps too long and accused her of effectively breaking the bat before the batsmen went to bill the bowls

because of her attitude to europe. suella braverman cannot claim to have been at the prime minister's side for years and liz truss is no margaret thatcher but is it possible that could be a political moment which could pull the rug from under the prime minister's feet? that which could pull the rug from under the prime minister's feet?- the prime minister's feet? that is exactly right _ the prime minister's feet? that is exactly right and _ the prime minister's feet? that is exactly right and what you - the prime minister's feet? that is exactly right and what you should | exactly right and what you should remember is that suella braverman played a key role in the leadership campaign because she ran as the candidate of the tory right, the european group of brexiteers and when her campaign fell apart she rallied behind liz truss. that gave liz truss the momentum to unite the rate flank which eventually to go to downing street so there will be a lot of eyes and ears on the european research group of mps to see how they are feeling because when you look at that letter and you talk about measures being coded. this is the least coded resignation letter i have ever seen when she was saying i

don't agree with your policy platform and i don't agree with where you're taking the party and when we make mistakes we have to admit to them. she came as close as one could admit as saying liz truss should go. we'll find out there is going to be a personal statement but suella braverman has discussed it with allies this evening so if she does do that it will be a big moment but if you go back what this means to the prime minister it is how could she have authority now. i don't see how she could do that because these are so chaotic and you've got 31 tory mps voting against the government. it only takes a0 mps to collapse the majority and if that had happened tonight we would be in a whole other situation of a snap general election and i don't anybody would want that to happen and that is why the government was forced to not make this a confidence issue but obviously that discipline is gone and we will have to see what other

members of the cabinet do because the chief whip has gone according to mps. you've got suella braverman is also gone and there have been reports today that the defence secretary ben wallace is very unhappy about the defence budget because he is very focused on that 3% spending increase that she pledged in her leadership platform. of pledged in her leadership platform. of that was to come under threat if he was to question his position then really that would be it. you are honourable and i did not want to interrupt you. fantastic points and thank you for making them to us. live coverage from westminster at heart of british politics. destabilised yet again in the traumatic story of the truss government.— traumatic story of the truss government. , ., traumatic story of the truss government. , i, i, government. let me remind you one thin. m government. let me remind you one thing. my colleague _ government. let me remind you one thing. my colleague who's _ government. let me remind you one thing. my colleague who's the - government. let me remind you one thing. my colleague who's the guru l thing. my colleague who's the guru of parliamentary history, you will hear him on today in parliament, tells me that today is the 100th anniversary of the day that

backbench conservative mps revolted against the coalition government they were serving in led by david lloyd george. over to you. i have got with me charles walker who is the mp for broxburn. you've got a lot of experience in party management and ub have a lot of years. have you seen anything like this? we us have a lot of years. have you seen anything like this? we have had some pretty — seen anything like this? we have had some pretty tense — seen anything like this? we have had some pretty tense moments - some pretty tense moments particularly around brexit but i have never seen anything like tonight. what i understand that we are in a confidence vote which means if you voted against government you would lose the bit because in essence you said you know confidence in the government then, at the dispatch box, and the wind—up, the

minister said it was not a confidence vote which created chaos in the lobbies and that created a 20 minute delay between the vote happening on the result being announced which, by the way, is not even close. the government won it by nearly 100 votes but i think the whole thing is extraordinary in somewhere between this vote being called on the result being announced the chief whip resigned. haifa called on the result being announced the chief whip resigned.— the chief whip resigned. how they not that the chief whip resigned. how they got that confirmed? _ the chief whip resigned. how they got that confirmed? i _ the chief whip resigned. how they got that confirmed? i have - the chief whip resigned. how they got that confirmed? i have not - the chief whip resigned. how they| got that confirmed? i have not had it confirmed _ got that confirmed? i have not had it confirmed but _ got that confirmed? i have not had it confirmed but it _ got that confirmed? i have not had it confirmed but it now— got that confirmed? i have not had it confirmed but it now seems, - got that confirmed? i have not had i it confirmed but it now seems, well, the rumour seemed to be going. they have not been dismissed by government.— have not been dismissed by government. ~ i, i, i, government. what with that due to the whi -s government. what with that due to the whips office _ government. what with that due to the whips office authority _ government. what with that due to the whips office authority that - the whips office authority that they've been telling conservative mps, in effect, today, if you vote against this you will be voting to bring down the government and you will lose your membership of your parliamentary party? to will lose your membership of your parliamentary party?— will lose your membership of your parliamentary party? to be perfectly honest, parliamentary party? to be perfectly honest. this — parliamentary party? to be perfectly honest, this whole _ parliamentary party? to be perfectly honest, this whole affair _ parliamentary party? to be perfectly honest, this whole affair is - honest, this whole affair is inexcusable. it isjust honest, this whole affair is inexcusable. it is just a pitiful reflection on the conservative

parliamentary party at every level. and it reflects for the baddie, obviously, on the government of the day. to obviously, on the government of the da . ., �* , obviously, on the government of the da . i, �*, i, , obviously, on the government of the da., obviously, on the government of the da. i, i, day. to there's any claim back from this? iti day. to there's any claim back from this? it | don't— day. to there's any claim back from this? it i don't think _ day. to there's any claim back from this? it i don't think so. _ day. to there's any claim back from this? it i don't think so. i— day. to there's any claim back from this? it i don't think so. i have - day. to there's any claim back from this? it i don't think so. i have to i this? it i don't think so. i have to say, i've been up that view really since two weeks ago. this is an absolute disgrace. as a tory mp of 17 years has never been a minister, who has got on with that, loyally, most of the time, i think it is a shambles and a disgrace. i think it is utterly appalling. i am shambles and a disgrace. i think it is utterly appalling.— is utterly appalling. i am livid. and, is utterly appalling. i am livid. and. you _ is utterly appalling. i am livid. and, you know, _ is utterly appalling. i am livid. and, you know, i— is utterly appalling. i am livid. and, you know, i really- is utterly appalling. i am livid. i and, you know, i really shouldn't say this but i hope all those people who put liz truss in number ten, hibbitt was worth it. hope it was worth it to sit round the cabinet table because the damage they have done to our party is extraordinary. it is very difficult to convey, you lookjust it is very difficult to convey, you look just furious. it is very difficult to convey, you lookjust furious. you might have had enough of talentless people putting their taking the right box,

not because it is in the national interest but because it is in their own personal interest to achieve ministerial position and i know i speakfor hundreds ministerial position and i know i speak for hundreds of backbenchers who, right now, i worried for their constituents all the time and are now worrying about their own personal circumstances because there is nothing as by as in xmp many of my colleagues and constituents are worried and doing how they'll their mortgages if this comes to an end soon. i, i, i, i, i, soon. i am leaving parliament at the next general — soon. i am leaving parliament at the next general election _ soon. i am leaving parliament at the next general election and _ soon. i am leaving parliament at the next general election and i'm - next general election and i'm leaving voluntarily but we get our act together and behave like grown—ups, i'm afraid many hundreds of my colleagues perhaps 200 will be leaving at the behest of their electorate so that is really all i

have got to say.— electorate so that is really all i have got to say. patients reached the limit. you're _ have got to say. patients reached the limit. you're probably - have got to say. patients reached the limit. you're probably not i have got to say. patients reachedj the limit. you're probably not the only one. i the limit. you're probably not the onl one. i, i, the limit. you're probably not the only one._ thank - the limit. you're probably not the only one._ thank you i the limit. you're probably not the only one._ thank you so | only one. i am not. thank you so much for — only one. i am not. thank you so much for talking _ only one. i am not. thank you so much for talking to _ only one. i am not. thank you so much for talking to us. _ only one. i am not. thank you so much for talking to us. you i only one. i am not. thank you so much for talking to us. you can l only one. i am not. thank you so i much for talking to us. you can tell cross people are, her angry people are over what has happened. get more reaction for you from westminster when we can. the meeting place for politicians and their constituents, if you have come to the mother of parliaments as the house of commons likes to refer to itself, although whether it is behaving like that is for you to judge. whether it is behaving like that is for you tojudge. the place where constituents come to lobby the members of parliament to ask for help, support, advice, and an important meeting point for the real world and it does feel a little bit tonight as if we are not really in the real world. we are in a bizarre wonderland in which normal political rules of cease to apply. first of all, what is the latest you can give us about what is going on inside

government behind the scenes? pretti; government behind the scenes? pretty extraordinary- — government behind the scenes? pretty extraordinary. what _ government behind the scenes? pretty extraordinary. what we _ government behind the scenes? pretty extraordinary. what we are _ government behind the scenes? pretty extraordinary. what we are hearing is the chief whip and the deputy chief whip may both no longer be imposed. there is no longer in post. a taxi rank highly what happened but clearly there was a pretty messy situation today around this fracking vote. tory mps earlier in the day that this was going to be treated as a confidence motion in the bits of becoming down on them hard. many very unhappy about that because it put them at odds with their constituents and with the conservative manifesto that the originally stood on. in the debate minister stood up and said this was not going to be a confidence issue. it seems there was confusion when they went to vote. the it seems there was confusion when they went to vote.— they went to vote. the bbc has confirmed _ they went to vote. the bbc has confirmed about _ they went to vote. the bbc has confirmed about the _ they went to vote. the bbc has confirmed about the chief i they went to vote. the bbc has confirmed about the chief whip they went to vote. the bbc has i confirmed about the chief whip and deputy whip have resigned. do carry on. , deputy whip have resigned. do carry

on, , i, , i, on. reports that npas had seen i conservative mp unsure then which way to go, being manhandled into the yes lobby, was the description given. some sort of bus stop and the chief whip being told she is gone. she is sacked. she chief whip being told she is gone. she is sacked.— chief whip being told she is gone. she is sacked._ it i chief whip being told she is gone. i she is sacked._ it seems she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be, she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be. yes- — she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be. yes- trying — she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be, yes. trying to _ she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be, yes. trying to get _ she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be, yes. trying to get this - she is sacked. she sacked? it seems to be, yes. trying to get this all- to be, yes. trying to get this all clear. i, i, ,~ to be, yes. trying to get this all clear. i, i, , i, , i, clear. that me ask you. it is not unusual for— clear. that me ask you. it is not unusual for mps _ clear. that me ask you. it is not unusual for mps to _ clear. that me ask you. it is not unusual for mps to be _ clear. that me ask you. it is not unusual for mps to be pushed i clear. that me ask you. it is not l unusual for mps to be pushed and jostled and encouraged by whips, old hands at westminster remember with in the 1990s he was physically a very large man who was known to push people. jack straw the former british home secretary and tony blair cosmic government said he was grabbed and held up against a wall by the then deputy chief whip and

told you are voting with the government, i don't want any more nonsense from you. these are not necessarily new things. mps are not shrinking violets, it is a rough game. flit shrinking violets, it is a rough came. i, , , , game. of what message is this sendina game. of what message is this sending to _ game. of what message is this sending to people _ game. of what message is this sending to people watching. i game. of what message is this l sending to people watching. this game. of what message is this i sending to people watching. this is not how politics should be conducted. the big lesson here is do not call the voting of no confidence when you're in a parlous position over such a politically sensitive issue are you putting mps in a very difficult position. fracking is something that great strength of feeling within the conservative party and people of local considerations and are answerable to their constituents so you're already putting them in a difficult position and causing embarrassment for yourself and that is what we are seeing. embarrassment is a mild way of putting what we are seeing.

as you said, this is chris bryant, the labour mp. you made a startling intervention in the chamber. accusations that saw mps been physically manhandled. what did you see? ~ i, i, physically manhandled. what did you see? i i, i, i, see? where we enter into one or other of the _ see? where we enter into one or other of the lobbies, _ see? where we enter into one or other of the lobbies, and - see? where we enter into one or other of the lobbies, and this i see? where we enter into one or| other of the lobbies, and this was the main entrance to the no lobby which is where the government wanted all the members to go. there was a little group of tory mps uncertain about what the situation was because they've been told all day it was a motion of confidence voted against the government they will lose the weight. and in the debate the minister said it was not a motion of no confidence and when asked by one of the members whether it was a wasn't he said that is above my pay grade and then they were beginning to hear that the chief whip and

deputy chief whip were already gone. there was quite a lot of anxiety and a large group and people were shouting very aggressively. pointing at them. very closely surrounded and there were ministers and government whips all around them and to all intents and purposes this is what it looked like to me basically pushed or pulled into the division lobby. have you ever seen anything like that? �* i, , , i, , have you ever seen anything like that? �* i, , ,ii, , that? another whip sometimes can be uuite that? another whip sometimes can be quite assertive — that? another whip sometimes can be quite assertive but _ that? another whip sometimes can be quite assertive but it _ that? another whip sometimes can be quite assertive but it is _ that? another whip sometimes can be quite assertive but it is normally i quite assertive but it is normally the force of reason, not the force of force and, to be honest, that looked like bullying to me. bullying that i've not seen since i was at school. we have a behaviour code which says we do not countenance bullying or harassment. members of

parliament are meant to be able to vote without fear or favour and that was not what we had today. all of this is happening because emotions are very heightened because the government is in freefall and frankly, the country needs leadership and we'd get better leadership and we'd get better leadership from tofu. indie leadership and we'd get better leadership from tofu. we know now that the chief _ leadership from tofu. we know now that the chief whip _ leadership from tofu. we know now that the chief whip and _ leadership from tofu. we know now that the chief whip and deputy i leadership from tofu. we know now| that the chief whip and deputy chief whip have now gone as well. what you make of that? tithe whip have now gone as well. what you make of that?— make of that? one of the 'unior whi -s make of that? one of the 'unior whips who is i make of that? one of the 'unior whips who is a i make of that? one of the 'unior whips who is a friend i make of that? one of the 'unior whips who is a friend ofi make of that? one of the junior whips who is a friend of mine i make of that? one of the junior i whips who is a friend of mine just hugged me and said i am utterly, utterly miserable. i've no idea what is going on. this is going towards a general election. i is going on. this is going towards a general election.— general election. i know that is what labour — general election. i know that is what labour would _ general election. i know that is what labour would like. - general election. i know that is what labour would like. i i general election. i know that is what labour would like. i think| general election. i know that is i what labour would like. i think it is in the interest _ what labour would like. i think it is in the interest of— what labour would like. i think it is in the interest of the - what labour would like. i think it is in the interest of the nation, i what labour would like. i think it| is in the interest of the nation, to be honest. the issue for some really

decent tories today was to vote against what i got elected four in the manifesto in 2019 which is no fracking or do i vote for the government wants me to vote today which is a motion which sort of enables fracking? could you not say that labour put them in that position because it was a motion giving you control of the parliamentary business and no conservative mp could really vote for that, could they? conservative mp could really vote forthat, could they? several, certainly abstain. roughly a0 of them. certainly abstain. roughly 40 of them. , certainly abstain. roughly 40 of them. i i, , certainly abstain. roughly 40 of them. , i, , , certainly abstain. roughly 40 of them. i i, , ,i,, i, , them. their sing labours play games with a serious _ them. their sing labours play games with a serious situation. _ them. their sing labours play games with a serious situation. the - with a serious situation. the bi est with a serious situation. the biggest point _ with a serious situation. the biggest point for _ with a serious situation. tie biggest point for the with a serious situation. the biggest point for the individual mps is all that to most voters that they were saving the government's bacon over fracking and i were saving the government's bacon overfracking and i do not know whether government is even bothering with this game. is there a single constituency in the land, single community begging for fracking? i don't think so. the bigger point is the government does not have a

mandate for any of this. it does not have a mandate for what they were doing. i can't remember what they are or are not doing any more. my point is i think the country is crying out for leadership and the best way to put these things to the testis best way to put these things to the test is in the general election. we are a democracy after all.- are a democracy after all. we've also spoken _ are a democracy after all. we've also spoken to _ are a democracy after all. we've also spoken to the _ are a democracy after all. we've also spoken to the speaker i are a democracy after all. we've also spoken to the speaker of i are a democracy after all. we've i also spoken to the speaker of the house of commons this evening and understand he is trying to establish what went on at the voting lobbies. he is looking into that. thank you very much. some of those reports about the treatment of ministers. this is the shadow secretary of state for scotland, ian murray, you will see there. excuse me. a little cold, down here. i've never seen scenes like it...

as you were saying not necessarily astonishing behaviour. even the government's most sympathetic of supporter would suggest things are running smoothly right now. suggest things are running smoothly riaht now. , , i, i i, right now. definitely not. we do need to be _ right now. definitely not. we do need to be encouraging - right now. definitely not. we do need to be encouraging chaos. i need to be encouraging chaos. there's lots of chaos going around and so many things have happened but losing the home secretary who was on the wing of the party that the prime minister was positioning herself on is quite a dangerous situation now because there were people who supported the prime minister's

vision when she said she would be radical and challenge orthodoxy and willing to be unpopular. they will be feeling slightly disenfranchised with what is happening now because the prime minister's agenda is not what she said she would do. the people around her in key posts and not her natural supporters. in fact, the all sound like vichy seneca supporters. you are from the wing of the party, the right of the party. you will be feeling incredibly frustrated but this is the issue with treating the ministerial office like a revolving door. someone can commend calm the markets and help become more mainstream but then you add the awkward squad for the backbenchers and people who will have their own axis to grind and can cause problems because they are without the collective control. tide without the collective control. we should not underestimate the headache this gives for the police and security services because the home secretary will have just gone through quite a complicated security briefing. they were done all kinds

of security. they will have looked at security of her phone and e—mail and all the rest of it another got to do that all over again for grant shapps. to be fair, a fairly low the cabinetjob, didn't have particular security implications. use recently transport secretary. i5 security implications. use recently transport secretary. is a high-profile _ transport secretary. is a high-profile operational| transport secretary. i3 —. high—profile operational real—world department. you have to respond and a great amount of detail. these things take time and take resource and effort and particularly when quick decisions will have to be made, it's not going to be great for any of the services that will be overseen by the new home secretary. how difficult a day is this turning into for the prime minister? there was a perception at least that if she got through prime minister's

questions without dropping the ball it would probably buy her a little time and at least people would give her a little bit of space until jeremy hunt delivers the rest of the budget, on halloween. yes. jeremy hunt delivers the rest of the budget, on halloween. yes, exactly. peole aot budget, on halloween. yes, exactly. people got up _ budget, on halloween. yes, exactly. people got up this — budget, on halloween. yes, exactly. people got up this morning - budget, on halloween. yes, exactly. people got up this morning saying, i people got up this morning saying, how is liz truss going to perform at prime minister's questions? the first one she has to face and losing her chancellor, sucking her chance of there. is she going to look like she is stabilising things a little bit? is she going to be very much on the back foot? she got through that session. it was a pretty rough ride at times. there was laughterfrom kier pretty rough ride at times. there was laughter from kier starmer�*s jokes. not a good she fought back a bit with the tax, but then, yes, the suella braverman resignation and crucially that letter that she put out in which had some very barbed comments and many people here look

at that letter thinking, well, is this really all about using a private vein for sending an e—mail to someone outside government, things you shouldn't am done, in that letter use of real criticism talking about the fact she said i've taken responsibility and resign giving that implication that the prime minister has not done that. the conservative party fell into metres manifesto promises so feel on the fire of those critics and all of their shows, and we havejust hearing there, the factors nature of things at the minute which can turn on a dime. i, ~ things at the minute which can turn on a dime. i, ,, things at the minute which can turn on a dime. i, ~' , i, ii, things at the minute which can turn on a dime-— things at the minute which can turn onadime. i, , i on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here — on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here with _ on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here with us _ on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here with us watching - on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here with us watching on i on a dime. thank you both very much. you are here with us watching on bbc| you are here with us watching on bbc news live at westminster where the home secretary, one of the most senior members of the british government resigned this afternoon apparently over breaking the ministerial code but in her

resignation letter she engaged in a damning critique of the prime minister's shift in policy and expressing concerns over migration and over the government's growth strategy. you are you're watching bbc news. a tumultuous day for british politics. the bbc has learned that both the government chief whip in charge of parliamentary discipline and her deputy are no longer in their posts. the announcement came after tory mps, the grueling party of the government were told they could lose the party whip if they fail to support ministers plans for fracking and what took place in our ago. the government will not vote in only after a series of votes, including allegations that mps are manhandled

into the voting lobbies against their will. this came hours after their will. this came hours after the interior minister in the home secretary begin the second cabinet minister to leave the government. and the top fourjobs in government for the prime minister, foreign secretary and the chancellor of the exchequer. losing the chancellor of the exchequer last week when she forced him to resign. the replacement is a transport secretary. this was the fracking vote result as in the house of commons, a little earlier this evening. commons, a little earlier this evenin. commons, a little earlier this evening-- the - commons, a little earlier this evening.- the eyes i commons, a little earlier this evening.- the eyes to i commons, a little earlier this i evening.- the eyes to the evening. order. the eyes to the riht, evening. order. the eyes to the right. 230. _ evening. order. the eyes to the right, 230. the — evening. order. the eyes to the right, 230, the nose _ evening. order. the eyes to the right, 230, the nose to - evening. order. the eyes to the right, 230, the nose to the i evening. order. the eyes to thej right, 230, the nose to the left, 326 _

order. order! the ayes to the right, 230 _ order. order! the ayes to the right, 230 the _ order. order! the ayes to the right, 230. the noes to the left, 326. the noes _ 230. the noes to the left, 326. the noes have — 230. the noes to the left, 326. the noes have it — 230. the noes to the left, 326. the noes have it. the noes have it. elinor— noes have it. the noes have it. elinor lange confirming that result and why does this matter? fracking is not globally, particularly controversial in the united states, but is controversial in the uk. and they imposed a moratorium on fracking in the proposalfor they imposed a moratorium on fracking in the proposal for liz truss is a part of a try to get growth in the british economy to allow fracking to take place but only an area and very uncomfortable about that and they were put down this motion to embarrass the government to persuade the tory mps to oppose the government and they said it was a vote of confidence to

force them back on side if the government lost, it will be a danger to the future of the government. and it shouldn't be endangered by anything. and that's all nervous the political environment has become. the political correspondent is in the centre lobbyist behind me and spoke to the prominent backbencher was already announced he had stood down the next election and when of the safest conservative seats in the country. he is also become one of the dozen mps to publicly call for the dozen mps to publicly call for the prime minister to go. it will make this whole affair is inexcusable. it isjust make this whole affair is inexcusable. it is just pitiful reflection on the conservative parliamentary parties. ihtt reflection on the conservative parliamentary parties. at every level. parliamentary parties. at every level- and _ parliamentary parties. at every level. and it _ parliamentary parties. at every level. and it reflects _ parliamentary parties. at every level. and it reflects really i parliamentary parties. at every. level. and it reflects really badly on the government of the day. do you think there's — on the government of the day. do you think there's any _ on the government of the day. do you think there's any coming _ on the government of the day. do you think there's any coming back- on the government of the day. do you think there's any coming back from i think there's any coming back from this? i, �* ~' think there's any coming back from this? i, �* ,, , i,

think there's any coming back from this? i, �* ,, �* i, this? i don't think so. but i have to sa , i this? i don't think so. but i have to say. i have — this? i don't think so. but i have to say, i have been _ this? i don't think so. but i have to say, i have been of _ this? i don't think so. but i have to say, i have been of that i this? i don't think so. but i have to say, i have been of that viewl to say, i have been of that view since two weeks ago. this is an absolute disgrace. as a tory mp of 17 years was never been a minister, was caught on with it clearly most of the time, i think it is a shambles and a disgrace. i think it is utterly appalling. you shambles and a disgrace. i think it is utterly appalling.— is utterly appalling. you seem furious. i'm _ is utterly appalling. you seem furious. i'm livid. _ is utterly appalling. you seem furious. i'm livid. nations- is utterly appalling. you seem furious. i'm livid. nations say| is utterly appalling. you seem i furious. i'm livid. nations say this but i hope — furious. i'm livid. nations say this but i hope all— furious. i'm livid. nations say this but i hope all of _ furious. i'm livid. nations say this but i hope all of those _ furious. i'm livid. nations say this but i hope all of those people i furious. i'm livid. nations say this| but i hope all of those people who put liz truss in number ten, i hope it was worth it. i us with the for the ministerial breadbox and to sit around the cabinet table because the damage they had done to our party is extraordinary. you damage they had done to our party is extraordinary-— extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. extraordinary. you looked as furious about this- i— extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. i am _ extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. i am and _ extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. i am and i _ extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. i am and i had _ extraordinary. you looked as furious about this. i am and i had enough i about this. i am and i had enough of talentless people _ about this. i am and i had enough of talentless people putting _ about this. i am and i had enough of talentless people putting their i talentless people putting their ticking right box, not because it's in the national interest, but because it's in their own personal

interest to achieve ministerial positions and i know i speak for hundreds of backbenchers who right now, they're worried for their constituents all the time but now they're worrying about their own personal circumstances because there is nothing as acts as an ex mp and a lot of my colleagues in my constituents are wondering how they're going to pay their mortgages of the soul comes to an end soon. what do you do next? i’m of the soul comes to an end soon. what do you do next?— what do you do next? i'm leaving parliament _ what do you do next? i'm leaving parliament at _ what do you do next? i'm leaving parliament at the _ what do you do next? i'm leaving parliament at the next _ what do you do next? i'm leaving parliament at the next general. parliament at the next general election and i'm leaving voluntarily. but it was we get our act together and behave like grown—ups, i'm afraid many hundreds of my colleagues perhaps 200 will be leaving at the best of their electorate. so, that's pretty much all i've got to say. patience reached the limit. in all i've got to say. patience reached the limit. i, , reached the limit. in hertfordshire which is just _ reached the limit. in hertfordshire which is just that _ reached the limit. in hertfordshire which is just that the _ reached the limit. in hertfordshire which is just that the north - reached the limit. in hertfordshire which is just that the north of i which is just that the north of london but enforcement hearing extraordinary reports and inside the house of commons. this coming from opposition mps complaining about the

behaviour of government whips and getting mps to vote for them. this is ian murray, the shadow secretary of labour mp. two tory whips trekking people and it is shocking. and the labour mp, he is an s&p mp, the scottish national party which wants independence for scotland and want the third—largest party at westminster. and a similar message from the labour mp, i and a similar message from the labourmp, ijust and a similar message from the labour mp, i just witnessed and a similar message from the labour mp, ijust witnessed one tory member in tears being let out of his

lobby on motions continued. the ban on fracking. these are coming from opposition mps, you have to take this with that in mind, they would have a reason for encouraging the impression that the government is chaotic and that they vote in a particular way, we haven't had a formal government response and some mps we heard from little earlier raised in the house of commons and elinor said it wasn't a matter for the steps but they have subsequently spoken to the speaker who is in charge of all parliament in proceedings on all mps they're trying to establish what is going on and what may or may not have happened. that's talk to a former adviser to the labour party and she can speak to us now. thank you very much for being with us. another extraordinary day at westminster. i5

extraordinary day at westminster. i3 really despicably. it does feel that we're in the midst of a complete political meltdown now. the fact that we've had the home secretary was signed today, we've now got the chief whip resigning, the deputy chief whip resigning, the deputy chief whip resigning and on one hand, it's very funny and there's lots of laughs on twitter but it is not that funny. britain is an absolute state right now. we just had huge economic shock and damage done to our economy because of this many budget and is meant to be some political stability and it's an absolute circus now and it does feel that liz truss feels like a genuine threat to the stability to the economy. threat to the stability to the economy-— threat to the stability to the economy. threat to the stability to the econom.�* , i, i ,y economy. i'm struck, not so much by erha -s economy. i'm struck, not so much by perhaps the — economy. i'm struck, not so much by perhaps the words _ economy. i'm struck, not so much by perhaps the words of _ economy. i'm struck, not so much by perhaps the words of opposition i

perhaps the words of opposition politicians but to hear people like charles walker, of many years of conservative mp talking about talentless individuals and referring to that ministers and the crowd to sheared the former mp of the daily telegraph and the former house journalists of conservatives and talking of a very distinguished rider of the second group were saying that there's been a succession of ridiculous conservative prime ministers. there really is unheard of.— really is unheard of. these are not the tofu munching people - really is unheard of. these are not the tofu munching people that i really is unheard of. these are not the tofu munching people that we | the tofu munching people that we were talking about. and i listened to the interview with charles walker and it was actually quite moved by it and i was moved by everything he said, i've written a piece in the standard in london myself to sing, we have had this terrible political

culture which is rewarded, sort of, the most with low quality people to high office in the event a culture which is rewarded blind loyalty, mainly due to brexit and political games over any kind of talent. and we are all suffering from it. and this is a beyond factions or left versus right, we are all suffering from it. this is beyond factions or left versus right, we're in a situation now for the whole of the country, notjust those interested in politics, the whole country is worried sick about this political car crash that we are watching it unfold in real time and people are worried sick about their mortgages come about rent going up and how they're going to pay their energy bills and businesses and worried that they're going to go under and we see the scenes unfolding at westminster. it does feel that we have reached this real crisis point

in our democracy because we had such low quality people in charge of our country. low quality people in charge of our count . i ii low quality people in charge of our count . i i, i i, country. there is a challenge it because it _ country. there is a challenge it because it is _ country. there is a challenge it because it is clear _ country. there is a challenge it because it is clear that - country. there is a challenge it because it is clear that this i because it is clear that this impression that the government is losing control presents political opportunity for the opposition and particularly, the labour party, the largest one and one the most hope to be in a position to form a government. for up to two and half years away from a general election and it is entirely in the prime minister's gift a call that election whether the call that election answered to see the circumstances in which labour can do more than criticising the other side. it is a fair point that _ criticising the other side. it is a fair point that the whole - criticising the other side. it is a fair point that the whole lead i criticising the other side. it is a j fair point that the whole lead is criticising the other side. it is a i fair point that the whole lead is so big for the labour party right now that it looks like it's notjust the case of charles walker saying, 100 mps losing their sleep. as a 36 point lead in the conservative party is staring down an absolute

existential crisis over whether they existential crisis over whether they exist at the political force right now because things are so bad. it is very unlikely that there's going to be a general election and viewers very much wanted to be a general election in the labour party wants that to be a general election and i cannot see any circumstance of this unless conservative mps to the site thatis unless conservative mps to the site that is the only way they can get rid of liz truss that they're going to get rid of themselves of the same time. i think we are looking at two and a half years away from election. but remember this, people, and a half years away from election. but rememberthis, people, i and a half years away from election. but remember this, people, i don't think we'll everforgive but remember this, people, i don't think we'll ever forgive or forget the absolute anguish they've been through over the past few weeks since the many budget, the anxiety of their mortgages going up and the rents going up and the worry about energy bills and just the feeling of absolute instability in politics and that has led through how they're feeling in terms of the pound in their pocket and i think all of this chaos, the british public are not

stupid. i think you'll be very difficult for them to forgive and forget and also remember, there will be local elections coming up in may of next year so even if liz truss, by some miracle, hangs on by that point, the conservatives, there is going to be an electoral test before the next general election. in going to be an electoral test before the next general election.— the next general election. in the united states, _ the next general election. in the united states, there _ the next general election. in the united states, there will - the next general election. in the united states, there will be i the next general election. in the| united states, there will be what the next general election. in the i united states, there will be what is known as the midterm congressional elections which will determine whether the democrats maintain control of the legislative process. in the us congress. we do not have the equivalent here, we have local elections, we have at least one by elections, we have at least one by election coming up because an mps resigned to take up anotherjob in that scene is to be filled in the coming weeks. they do provide a snapshot of the mood and not by election which is in a safe labour seat won't tell us very much but the overall political situation. how can

conservatives know whether they are making changes that the public likes when we do not have that kind of measure of public opinion between general elections. the british system in the electoral dictatorship. you have one and you go in forfive dictatorship. you have one and you go in for five years and that you let them get on with it.- go in for five years and that you let them get on with it. there might be more by — let them get on with it. there might be more by elections _ let them get on with it. there might be more by elections coming - be more by elections coming up because i think a lot of conservative mps are going to see the writing on the wall and think, i'm not going to hang around and wait for this, and i'm not going to hang around and wait forthis, and i i'm not going to hang around and wait for this, and i think that will provide some direction and mps will know, they will know from when they go out and go to their constituencies at the weekend, they will know from the local conservative associations telling them and they will know from their course and there were no if there are centy and being south of the public is feeling about them as a governing party right now. and it is

clear that things are not working and everyone is talking about it. this is notjust a westminster story, everyone is talking about the chaos that they see. so the opinion polls, you cannot trust everything about this because it's not to have years out, but conservative mps will have a pretty good sense of what the country is feeling and right now, no matter what people are saying as they go into the airwaves, they know in the heart of hearts that they are in dire straits right now.— in dire straits right now. former labour in dire straits right now. former labour party — in dire straits right now. former labour party adviser, _ in dire straits right now. former labour party adviser, thank i in dire straits right now. former labour party adviser, thank you | in dire straits right now. former. labour party adviser, thank you for speaking with us on bbc news. i began my career in the early 1990s when the conservative government had a relatively small majority, much smaller than liz truss as now it was going through trauma over europe, funnily enough and whether european

union should acquire more power through what was called the parliamentary treaty which had been approved by parliament, john major who was the premise that a torrid time and only did he have mps dying due to crazy by elections run by opposition parties slowly diminishing his majority, but he had mps defecting from both a liberal democrat party which was a smaller opposition party and even to the others. it was a time of political trauma knows a time of political uncertainty knows a time and party loyalty was strained to the limit by those who felt the public interest, the national interest is not being served by the government. john major hung on despite the odds, despite losing his chancellor who was sacked in the chancellor who subsequently accused him of being in office but not in power and he carried on and went into that election and he went out to a terrible defeat for the

conservative party. is a defeat which traumatised him for a decade and it is a defeat that left him in opposition for more than a decade the new labour project on toilet itself under first 20 blair and gordon brown but the conservatives got back into power by forming a coalition with the liberal democrats. subsequently for the last seven years, they have had a majority of their own but spectacularly in 2019, when they want a massive majority with boris johnson leadership, they did it by appealing not only because of brexit, but also basing that they were a new kind of conservative party, the conservative party they were trying to level up all parts of the uk the neglected parts of the country and that meant places that never had a conservative mp perhaps for a hundred years or perhaps not at all, back borisjohnson and will be called the redwall seats. the lib receipts that had majorities of labour and they bring peace since

time immemorial tumbled in the fear in the conservative benches now is that the next time they face the public, those gains will be lost and perhaps they will also lose seats evenin perhaps they will also lose seats even in their heartland. places like southern england that have been tory for as long as those redwall seats have been labour. two by elections this year and one of them was in tiverton and devon and the far southwest of england for the conservatives have always held a seatin conservatives have always held a seat in that seat went to the liberal democrats by a significant majority there have been signs, warnings or conservative position is far from secure with the public in this business of a change of prime ministerfor boris this business of a change of prime minister for borisjohnson to liz truss and the trauma of liz truss having to abandon her chancellor and economic policy because the money markets were no longer prepared to lend money to the british government and affordable rate, means that the conservatives are now confused as to what direction they go in. we are seeing that being played out in the

trauma that is being unveiled today. for more on the departure, i have been speaking to a former interior ministry for home office. fin been speaking to a former interior ministry for home office.- ministry for home office. on one hand, it ministry for home office. on one hand. it was a — ministry for home office. on one hand, it was a technical - ministry for home office. on one hand, it was a technical breach, l ministry for home office. on one i hand, it was a technical breach, she inadvertently copied somebody that she should not have too information that some people say will be made public tomorrow and information already made aware of. i have been working in the home office in this light sensitive information that you do it on a day—to—day basis in security instilled amongst them and yet to be mindful but her version, or teams version is quite different from what we're hearing from number ten which is the content was very, market sensitive and connected and therefore, she had to go and i think, in the last few months, they did change the rules on the ministerial codes which give more discretion and made things from mild

infractions, you could apologise and be suspended or have a full resignation, and there was more going on here, and this agreement over the direction of travel for government policy but liz truss would not of supported to lose that secretary, and even though from the leadership, she did not do as well and dropped a relatively early, she also presumably have known that the objects of this, for prime minister was already on the skids, to not only a fire to chancellor of the exchequer but lost the home secretary as well, this would mean changes into the top fourjobs in the british cabinet in the space of a week. it the british cabinet in the space of a week. ii i the british cabinet in the space of a week. ii , i, , i i, a week. it adds to the picture of chaos but _ a week. it adds to the picture of chaos but i _ a week. it adds to the picture of chaos but i challenge _ a week. it adds to the picture of chaos but i challenge the - a week. it adds to the picture of chaos but i challenge the idea i a week. it adds to the picture of i chaos but i challenge the idea that she would — chaos but i challenge the idea that she would not want to lose them secretary — she would not want to lose them secretary because actually, the government is now changing course and this_ government is now changing course and this is_ government is now changing course and this is not the government that she really— and this is not the government that she really want to lead in terms of

the economic agenda and this is been completely— the economic agenda and this is been completely shredded and we are noticing — completely shredded and we are noticing much the rishi sunak of the economic_ noticing much the rishi sunak of the economic plan and we are seeing this in key— economic plan and we are seeing this in key roles — economic plan and we are seeing this in key roles. it is liz truss trying to appeal— in key roles. it is liz truss trying to appeal to— in key roles. it is liz truss trying to appeal to more of the party but this appointment and change does make _ this appointment and change does make some sense. a this appointment and change does make some sense.— make some sense. a former conservative _ make some sense. a former conservative adviser - make some sense. a former conservative adviser and i make some sense. a former conservative adviser and can make some sense. a former. conservative adviser and can i make some sense. a former - conservative adviser and can i bring you up—to—date and bit of information that brought you. an hour ago, that was the government chief whip who had resigned from the government or than sex, it was not clear in the deputy had gone with her and we now understand that the business secretary, jacob reese who is a close ally of the prime minister doesn't know if this is true or not there are rumours and contradictory rumours either that she was sacked and reinstated or that she was resigned and was reinstated or that she was sacked or resigned and was still resigned her

out of the government. it is a very confusing and it seems it is very hard to get clear information out of downing street at the moment and again, ithink downing street at the moment and again, i think that points to the problems that the government is experiencing here in the uk tonight. we should be clear about the course of events today and originally, the prime minister gave her weekly appearance in the house of commons prior to premisejust appearance in the house of commons prior to premise just questions and the feeling was that if she survived that without dropping the ball, she was probably going to be seen for a couple of weeks, at least until finance ministers and the exchequer, who was brought in after being forced out of the predecessor and abandoned the economic plans, because of those concerns of the money markets were going to put up the cost of lending to the british government significantly and so, a customerfor government significantly and so, a customer for the government significantly and so, a customerfor the british government significantly and so, a customer for the british one government significantly and so, a customerfor the british one point to borrow money that the greeks were the italians but they're more

troubled economic history and therefore, the thought was she had a bit of time and outlooks after the resignation of the home secretary the time is running out the new home secretary, let's listen to what he had to sayjust after he was appointed earlier this evening. evening, everyone. it's been a turbulent time for the government and i think the most important thing is to make sure the people of this country know they are in security and it's an honour to be appointed to him secretary today and looking forward to getting stuck into the role and providing the security that the british people need regardless of what is happened otherwise in westminster. i look forward to getting on with the job. coming westminster. i look forward to getting on with thejob. coming up this evening, thank you very much. forgive me, i'm literally ten minutes into thejob forgive me, i'm literally ten minutes into the job so, i will refrain from commenting on the

specifics of this role but look, i accept the government has had a very difficult time becausejeremy hunt, that nonetheless means it's doubly important that we are doing everything to, in the basic areas, a greatjob of everything to, in the basic areas, a great job of settling everything to, in the basic areas, a greatjob of settling the issues of the budget, i want to do one most important roles in government and make sure that people feel secure and that is what i'm going to do. i have no chance to catch up with everything that the home secretary is said, but i know it's very importantjob to do and people expect the government to ensure security for them come the home office is at the heart of that and i

am honoured to do that role and i'm going to get on that serious role right now. the other thing to bear in mind is that he was not in the cabinet until tonight and he had beenin cabinet until tonight and he had been in the cabinet of borisjohnson but he was let go by liz truss who did not want to give him a job, more mps, in fact most mps did not want liz truss to be the leader in so certainly not the beginning of the contest which took place this summer after revolt of the conservative parliament forced boris johnson to resign. only 50 mps initially supported liz truss and of the 300 and gradually, people came on board as other candidates dropped out and the home secretary who today has resigned and launched a damning attack on the prime minister will find out tomorrow on thursday whether or not she's going to make a statement of the house of commons in

which case, she will tells what she thinks of liz truss continued leadership of the united kingdom. we say goodbye to viewers on pbs watching in the united states. this is bbc news. now, for more analysis on the events of westminster today, been talking to a whitehall editor of the financial times. i been talking to a whitehall editor of the financial times.— of the financialtimes. i mean, these are _ of the financialtimes. i mean, these are very. _ of the financialtimes. i mean, these are very, very _ of the financialtimes. i mean, these are very, very chaotic i of the financialtimes. i mean, i these are very, very chaotic scenes in the event the end of days now. so, to retire but we've had today, liz truss had to file one of her closest advisers and suspended an investigation and be seen him secretary quit ostensibly over an issue by breaking the ministerial code and in reality, it's a big policy dispute with the prime minister and just this evening, we see in the government chief whip and her deputy quit after this huge row over a fracking vote in this was the

key thing liz truss announced to lift the moratorium on fracking with in england in that vote has been very contentious. many conservative mps do not want to see fracking go ahead and this morning, craig whitaker, the chief whip tool mps this would be a confidence issue and i means of your foot against this, it can bring down the government and you would lose the conservative party whip and the energy minister told mps that it wouldn't be a confidence issue and they're going into some extraordinary points in the footing club in the chair of the house of commons and standards committee says he has seen mps physically manhandled and bullied, essentially to sum this all up, we are at the end of days. this cannot go on. it is unsustainable in it's a question of when, not if this government falls and we are talking this morning about weeks, it feels like we are now into days, if not ours. ii like we are now into days, if not ours. i, ii, , i, ours. your confirming, you understand _

ours. your confirming, you understand that _ ours. your confirming, you understand that the - ours. your confirming, you i understand that the government ours. your confirming, you _ understand that the government chief whip has resigned and the deputy craig whitaker has also gone and just so people understand people outside the uk how this works, the chief whip is in charge as the deputy chief whip who manages westminster, the floor show. and it ensures that mps, the information is conveyed in people know when they're supposed to vote and delivers the numbers, effectively, so the chief whip into the prime minister either you will get this through a prime minister, you will not get this through and you need to change course. ii i through and you need to change course. i, i i, �*, i, course. that is right. that's a lot of reports _ course. that is right. that's a lot of reports about _ course. that is right. that's a lot of reports about what _ course. that is right. that's a lot of reports about what exactly i course. that is right. that's a lot| of reports about what exactly has gone on and that's my understanding, conservative mps and spoke to about five of them have said that wendy morton and craig have quit and turning in their official resignation letters but fundamentally, the whole operation is broken down over the past couple of hours because wendy morton was

overseeing party management and they were going to do this and make this fracking vote an issue of confidence and that is now completely fallen apart and reports of the spectator which i cannot repeat on the bbc but saying craig whitaker left the lobby is telling colleagues that i've had enough, this is all complete mess, i'm fed up and had summer expletives put into that statement there. but the sense of chaos is just completely enveloping liz truss government. this is unsustainable and things like to come to add pretty quickly and over the past couple of days, it is been a situation where ministers, or mps are going to move against the prime minister ever since her economic platform was ripped up and her chancellor was pushed out or replaced byjeremy hunt we got this almost hostile takeover of the government by the centre in the centre left of the tory party and he really does feel like it's only a matter of time for the prime

ministers of the subject of takeover and it's been one of the most chaotic days i can remember westminster since the brexit wars of 2017 to 2019 and have a strong feeling that's not over yet and i think things will horribly come to at tomorrow because the government is reallyjust a laughing stock at the moment. flan is reallyjust a laughing stock at the moment-— the moment. can i 'ust be clear about the. h the moment. can i 'ust be clear about this, are i the moment. can i 'ust be clear about this, are you]— the moment. can ijust be clear about this, are you saying i the moment. can ijust be clear about this, are you saying that l the moment. can ijust be clear. about this, are you saying that the government appears to have lost control of the parliamentary party? the fact is, you've got about 31 mps and my rough calculation voting against the government or have abstained on the fracking vote, the student to get that through, salutes the semblance of party management both reports were from mps suggest that things are very, very fractious indeed, having the accusation of a deputy prime minister pushing people in voting lobbies, that is not normal business, that is not a government in control of events. we will have to wait and to and to be will have to wait and to and to he get a bit more detail on what exactly has gone on over the past 30

minutes or so. but from my understanding, it does feel like it is spiralling out of control very quickly and the issue is how could liz truss regain the initiative? how could she get measures through? how could she get measures through? how could she get measures through? how could she from an economic platform when you got mps doing exactly what they want at the moment? is that thins they want at the moment? is that things could _ they want at the moment? is that things could come _ they want at the moment? is that things could come to _ they want at the moment? is that things could come to at _ they want at the moment? is that l things could come to at tomorrow, they want at the moment? is that i things could come to at tomorrow, it is possible that they could take the opportunity to deliver a personal statement explaining her resignation in the house of commons this afternoon, i can remember this extraordinary events when out the long—suffering deputy prime minister and former chancellor of the exchequer was being attacked from the beginning for government in 1979 and 1990, she stood up in the back benches of the prime minister sitting on the front bench in front looking straight ahead, not looking back at him and she said that he urged colleagues not to wrestle with the dilemma, he wrestled for perhaps too long and accused her of

effectively breaking the back to the crease because of her attitude to europe. now, she is nojeffrey, she cannot claim to be on the prime minister side for years and liz truss is no margaret thatcher, but possible that could be a political moment that would finally pull the rug from under the prime minister speed? == because she ran as the candidate of the tory right of the european research group of brexiteers. when her campaign fell atop the night fell apart she rallied behind liz truss in the summer contest. that very much gave liz truss the momentum to unite the right flank of the conservative party that it actually took her to downing street. there will be a lot of eyes and ears on the european research group of mps on how they're feeling. when you look at that letter, you talk about resignation letter is being coded, this is lee's coded resignation

letter i've ever seen when suella braverman was saying to liz truss, i don't agree with your policy platform, i don't agree with where you taking a party for them and what we make mistakes we have to fess up to them. she came pretty much as close as one can say to saying liz truss you go without actually it. there is a law .net will find out if there is a personal statement. but suella braverman has discussed it with her allies this evening. so if she does do that it will be a big moment. if you go back to what this means for the prime minister, how can she stamp authority now? ijust can't really see a way that she can do that because things are so chaotic. the idea you've got 31 tory mps voting against the government, it only takes a0 mac mps to collapse a majority. if that had happened tonight of course we will be in a hole of the situation of a snap general election. i don't think anyone would want that to happen. that's why the government was forced to not make this a confidence issue. obviously, that discipline is gone

and i think we will have to wait to see what other members of the cabin to wendy morton the chief whip has gone, according to mps. you've got suella braverman who is also gone. also reports that defence secretary ben wallace is unhappy about the defence budget. he is very focused on that 3% spending that liz truss plays on her leadership platform. if that was to come under threat and he was a question his position that would be it even sooner that it feels like already.— would be it even sooner that it feels like already. whitehall editor at the ft talking _ feels like already. whitehall editor at the ft talking to _ feels like already. whitehall editor at the ft talking to be _ feels like already. whitehall editor at the ft talking to be earlier. i at the ft talking to be earlier. just a reminderfor views at the ft talking to be earlier. just a reminder for views of the at the ft talking to be earlier. just a reminderfor views of the uk, we will have the papers at 1030 and 1130 uk time tonight. first editions of the front pages, we will get some idea of how they are reporting today's extraordinary events. i want today's extraordinary events. i want to bring you an update as we talked about allegations that mps were in tears, some of been manhandled in the division lobbies voting for the government with great reluctance and only with a little bit of outside

assistance. certainly those claims have been made in the house of commons in the chamber and social media by labour mps. here is what one of those mps said. on the bbc live page where you can follow all developments on our website. this entry is tied at 21 minutes has 18 times for the alexanders stafford, conservative mp alleged to have been manhandled by senior members of the government, as it tweeted to say he had a frank and robust conversation outside the voting lobby but that was it. in a tweedy wrote "lots of rumours around tonight, this vote was never about fracking but about labour trying to destabilise the country and take control of that i had a frank and robust conversation outside voting lobbies confirming my opposition to fracking with members of the government. nothing more. reconfirming my position which i spoke about in the chamber this

evening. "alexander stafford brushing off suggestions that he was pushed into the division lobby to vote with the government or at least they tried to do that. says it was a frank and fair exchange of views. as i said before during the course of this broadcast, previous governments there would be plenty of reports of mps being put on a quite a lot of pressure to vote a particular way. let's hear from steve baker. pressure to vote a particular way. let's hearfrom steve baker. he is a minister in northern ireland office for them in the leadership contest he ran suella braverman's leadership campaign. he is somebody who is on the back benches and a big proponent of something called european research group and group of mps who organise supporters of brexit who really have been there to keep the pressure on prime ministers, famously teresa mae but also boris johnson and now liz truss to ensure they are the policy commitment that led to brexit. now in liz truss is government and he's been speaking to a political correspondent. ibsen;

a political correspondent. very clear, a political correspondent. very clear. she's — a political correspondent. very clear, she's chosen _ a political correspondent. very clear, she's chosen to - a political correspondent. , clear, she's chosen to tender resignation following a mistake that she made. have you spoken to her since then? i she made. have you spoken to her since then?— she made. have you spoken to her since then? i have, yes. how is she does she feel _ since then? i have, yes. how is she does she feel she _ since then? i have, yes. how is she does she feel she been _ since then? i have, yes. how is she does she feel she been treated - does she feel she been treated fairly? does she feel she been treated fairl ? ,, �* , ., does she feel she been treated fairl? �*, ., ,, , fairly? she's in great spirits, she's a friend _ fairly? she's in great spirits, she's a friend of _ fairly? she's in great spirits, she's a friend of the - fairly? she's in great spirits, she's a friend of the prime l fairly? she's in great spirits, - she's a friend of the prime minister was a prime minister to succeed. i'm also clear if suella braverman hadn't made this mistake today to be continuing and doing a fantastic job. as a supporter of suella braverman and liz truss i want to bold braverman and liz truss i want to hold to succeed. i'm very disappointed. but suella braverman know she made a mistake, she has reside over it. she know she made a mistake, she has reside over it.— reside over it. she said she felt she had to _ reside over it. she said she felt she had to go _ reside over it. she said she felt she had to go for _ reside over it. she said she felt she had to go for that. - reside over it. she said she felt she had to go for that. why - reside over it. she said she felt she had to go for that. why do | reside over it. she said she felt. she had to go for that. why do you think top accusation was a government disk 60 but she was quite scathing about government and the direction and her letter. minn; scathing about government and the direction and her letter.— direction and her letter. why did she ut direction and her letter. why did she put that _ direction and her letter. why did she put that in? _ direction and her letter. why did she put that in? i _ direction and her letter. why did she put that in? ithink- direction and her letter. why did she put that in? i think it's - she put that in? i think it's inevitable in the process of governing that there will be disagreement on policy. that's perfectly natural and we're committees that resolve these things within government. i think what people reside it's inevitable that those things spill out into the public domain. i'm absolutely certain... it is what it is. the

reality is that suella braverman would've continued had she not made the mess mistake. i think resigning shows great and secretary. do the mess mistake. i think resigning shows great and secretary.- shows great and secretary. do you think we will— shows great and secretary. do you think we will see _ shows great and secretary. do you think we will see a _ shows great and secretary. do you think we will see a change - shows great and secretary. do you think we will see a change in - think we will see a change in direction in migration policy with grant shops and the role instead of suella braverman?— suella braverman? grant will still need to sale _ suella braverman? grant will still need to sale all— suella braverman? grant will still need to sale all problems - suella braverman? grant will still need to sale all problems for - suella braverman? grant will still need to sale all problems for that where suella braverman is been pragmatic i'm sure greg will be as well. crossing the general is still present on everybody�*s mind. the overall migration policy of course will have to be decided in the usual way. it's not for me to forestall what those policies again to be is not even in my wells.— not even in my wells. there were re orts not even in my wells. there were reports that _ not even in my wells. there were reports that perhaps _ not even in my wells. there were reports that perhaps suella - reports that perhaps suella braverman and the prime minister didn't see isaiah is such a strong? your view as well might be saying we don't talk about disagreements with new government as a matter of course. there is always going to be tension on policy. we have a process to decide policy and then as ministers we all represent the policy. i waited to see what it is and i will should defend it. steve

baker talking _ and i will should defend it. steve baker talking about _ and i will should defend it. steve baker talking about the - and i will should defend it. steve baker talking about the resignation of suella braverman as home secretary. during her very brief, the shortest of any home secretary in modern times, she was in the job forjust five weeks. ms. robin supported a plan to send asylum—seekers to rolando. —— suella braverman. and it produces herfor the home office in april although so far nobody has actually been successfully sent to rolando. the whole policy is currently before the courts was told the conservative parties annual conference earlier this month that it would —— or $1. it was her dream to see flights carrying asylum—seekers to rolando. —— rwanda. it came as a bounded those survivors speak out to help survivors of tortures. thank you for joining us this evening from central london and for your patience because it's been a busy night and things

have been moving. i'm sorry that we kept you waiting. let me ask you first of all what you make of her departure. first of all what you make of her departure-— first of all what you make of her dearture. ., ~ ,, ., ., , ., departure. thank you and really i am crateful to departure. thank you and really i am grateful to be _ departure. thank you and really i am grateful to be here. _ departure. thank you and really i am gratefulto be here. on _ departure. thank you and really i am gratefulto be here. on the - departure. thank you and really i am gratefulto be here. on the one - departure. thank you and really i am grateful to be here. on the one and l grateful to be here. on the one and i am really relieved that come december suella braverman is not to be sitting around the table of the family is celebrating the suffering of human beings that have been flown from the uk to rwanda. some of them tortures survivors like myself came here and to be seeking protection. we need to receive people with dignity, welcome and respect. if we decide that they need protection they will be given protection like myself. if they don't need protection then protection not given to her. i'm quite relieved that she is not to be here, seeing that

dream. , is not to be here, seeing that dream. _ ., , ,, dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike _ dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike it _ dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike it down. _ dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike it down. what - dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike it down. what is i dream. the policy remains, unless the court strike it down. what is it | the court strike it down. what is it you think perhaps british politicians and maybe the british public don't grasp about those who are attempting to come to this country and seek asylum? some for a legitimate reason that they fear torture or being killed in the country they come from postop others or perhaps other motives including wanting a better life and giving the children opportunity and finding a better work for a better pay. that’s better work for a better pay. that's ureat better work for a better pay. that's great questions. _ better work for a better pay. that's great questions. what _ better work for a better pay. that's great questions. what i _ better work for a better pay. that's great questions. what i would - better work for a better pay. that's great questions. what i would say. great questions. what i would say about that, i would take my example here, i speak on somebody as an example. i was tortured. i here, i speak on somebody as an example. iwas tortured. i managed to flee. and for me the next thing is to find somewhere that i can seek protection and i ended up in the uk

and isaac protection. so within that policy that now the government is putting forward, i would have been refused protections. and when we're trying to resolve an issue we need to be very mindful of not discriminating, not penalising everybody. among that, people that really require protection need to be given the protection. so how could we have a policy that we take into consideration, given opportunity for people for protection and from that we can decide by treating people with respect, dignity. i'm from that we can say no or yes. but also it is donein we can say no or yes. but also it is done in a respectful way so people are treated as a human being. what

are treated as a human being. what reaction have _ are treated as a human being. what reaction have you _ are treated as a human being. what reaction have you had _ are treated as a human being. what reaction have you had from british people when you say... when they ask about your story and what you're doing now and they ask where you came from and how you came to this country? 50 came from and how you came to this count ? ., �* ., , ., country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't country? so far i'm really grateful. lwouldn't be _ country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't be who _ country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't be who i _ country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't be who i am _ country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't be who i am today - country? so far i'm really grateful. i wouldn't be who i am today if - i wouldn't be who i am today if people did not give me the opportunity to secure my life and give me protection. and secondly, allow me in the community and society and also allow me to share my story with them and for them to understand what is the improper torture. and to flee and a risk i have to take in order to get somewhere which is say. and i have seen respect, ifc welcoming, ifc

love and that's what i get and that's what i want to give back to this country. that's what i've been giving back to this country for many years, which i dedicated my life to help the policy to understand better, how the policies are impacting and how we can allow ourselves to get a policy which will really represent us as a country, as a welcoming people. and also as a country that for many years has always provided to the entire world the human right policy and also the human rights law. if today the world is in some degree safer it is because of the united kingdom. lovely to hear you say us when you

talk about this country. thank you for your contribution tonight, speaking out, survivors speaking out for the organisation. thank you for talking to us on bbc news. let's talking to us on bbc news. let's talk to our politically black political correspondent damien chromatic us. he has been borrowing away at the story trying to find out what on earth is going on. we still don't seem to know whether the chief with deputy whip was sat, resigned, has gone, having gone, reinstated or is still out. i has gone, having gone, reinstated or is still out. , , ., is still out. i bring you bad news. i can't tell— is still out. i bring you bad news. i can't tell you — is still out. i bring you bad news. i can't tell you the _ is still out. i bring you bad news. i can't tell you the answer - is still out. i bring you bad news. i can't tell you the answer to - is still out. i bring you bad news. | i can't tell you the answer to that. it's really not clear, actually. downing street is not picking up the phone. it downing street is not picking up the hone. , , ., ., downing street is not picking up the hone. , ., , , ., phone. it gives you a sense of the confusion swirling _ phone. it gives you a sense of the confusion swirling around. - phone. it gives you a sense of the confusion swirling around. and i phone. it gives you a sense of the| confusion swirling around. and the fact we can get a clear answer on this. mp5 earlier, couple of tory mps are saying they believe that the chief whip and the deputy had gone.

now not clear. there has been no official word about that, no statement or anything. so we can't say definitively.— say definitively. craig whittaker, was reports _ say definitively. craig whittaker, was reports that _ say definitively. craig whittaker, was reports that he _ say definitively. craig whittaker, was reports that he had - say definitively. craig whittaker, was reports that he had been - was reports that he had been standing in division, expressing in blunt terms how frustrated he was. yes, being very verbally upset. find yes, being very verbally upset. and --eole. .. yes, being very verbally upset. and people-- yes- _ yes, being very verbally upset. and people... yes. still— yes, being very verbally upset. and people... yes. still no _ yes, being very verbally upset. and people... yes. still no clear - yes, being very verbally upset. and people... yes. still no clear idea i people... yes. still no clear idea of why this _ people... yes. still no clear idea of why this might've _ people... yes. still no clear idea of why this might've happened, l people... yes. still no clear idea - of why this might've happened, what is it and what the status is now. other mp5 saying they don't know. is there a chief whip or not? i think it speaks to a sense of confusion and real dismay amongst conservative mps. some of whom very upset about what is going on today. also feeling

it speaks to something more fundamental in the party at the minute. the trials and tribulations of liz truss running all the way through. of liz truss running all the way throu~h. , ., ., ., , through. there is a tolerable temptation _ through. there is a tolerable temptation when _ through. there is a tolerable temptation when you're - through. there is a tolerable temptation when you're a i through. there is a tolerable _ temptation when you're a commentator on this to get carried away about the drama and excitement about this. rude words being said i want to guess the other. the sheer theatre of it. but we shouldn't forget, and i'm sure you wouldn't want people to forget that this is about the business of government. it's about how they run the country. just a few weeks ago we got a terrible shock in this country delivered by the market saying, actually, we will lend money to you but will make it more expensive because we no longer trust you in a way we used to trust you. that seem to act like a bucket of cold water thrown over the heads of ministers. they immediately pulled back, change policy, the prime minister effectively forced her chancellor out in the economic

policy was ripped up by her successor. all of this uncertainty presumably leaves the impression that the british can't entirely be trusted for that bet nobody quite knows what they will do next. this is art of knows what they will do next. this is part of the _ knows what they will do next. tn 3 is part of the issue today as well. what you had was a prime minister and she is a coming out with this new proposal or plan of what they were going to do and that has been thrown upside down. the whole bits of it filleted and got it now. the chancellor gone. and what is left? what is left is a very uncertain situation. and what we saw this evening was the labour party seeing that, understanding that there was a political opportunity for them there, this issue of fracking, which there, this issue of fracking, which the tory party at last election said wasn't going to be pursued unless there was scientific basis. now the

new government saying well, and the need to pursue new energy sources will look at opening up fracking. many mps unhappy with that, you end “p many mps unhappy with that, you end up with his vote to day and a messy situation. and the feeling amongst mps that the handling of it from the government saying earlier in the day that this was going to be a vote of confidence that mps had to back the government come what may or risk losing their party positions. and then seeming to rollback on it later in the day cause more confusion. confusion of a policy, confusion. confusion of a policy, confusion over the handling of it today, all of the symptomatic of what many mps feel is the chaotic state of the party and is left many of them angry and upset.- state of the party and is left many of them angry and upset. thank you very much- — of them angry and upset. thank you very much- let's — of them angry and upset. thank you very much. let's pause _ of them angry and upset. thank you very much. let's pause because - of them angry and upset. thank you very much. let's pause because the| very much. let's pause because the rain is coming down here. we will revisit prime minister questions there's lunch time when liz truss,

only the third time she's been at the dispatch box as prime minister. and something dramatic has to happen in between each of those appearances. this is the first appearances. this is the first appearance of the government abandoned most of last month's many budget along with the man who delivered it the then chancellor, kolodziejczak. this is how lunchtime at prime ministers question began. aha, at prime ministers question began. book is being written about the prime minister simon office. apparently it's going to be out by christmas. —— quasi quartet is that the release date or the title? mr speaker. it i have been in office foriust— speaker. it i have been in office forjust under two months. and i have _ forjust under two months. and i have delivered the energy price guarantee making sure that people are paying 6000 town bills this winter~ — are paying 6000 town bills this winter. i've reversed the national insurance — winter. i've reversed the national insurance increase and i've also taken steps, and we will be taking steps _ taken steps, and we will be taking steps to—

taken steps, and we will be taking steps to crack down on the militants --. well keir starmer listed all the olicies --. well keir starmer listed all the policies the — --. well keir starmer listed all the policies the prime _ --. well keir starmer listed all the policies the prime minister - --. well keir starmer listed all the policies the prime minister had - --. well keir starmer listed all the i policies the prime minister had been forced tojunk. i got policies the prime minister had been forced to junk-— forced to 'unk. i got the 45p tax cut, forced to junk. i got the 45p tax cut. gone _ forced to junk. i got the 45p tax cut. gone for— forced to junk. i got the 45p tax cut, gone for the _ forced to junk. i got the 45p tax cut, gone for the corporation i forced to junk. i got the 45p tax| cut, gone for the corporation tax cut, gone for the corporation tax cut, gone. 20p tax cut, gone, what do you energy freeze, gone, tax—free shopping, gone, economic credibility gone! and her supposed best friend a former chancellor he is gone as well. they are all gone. so why is she still here? mr well. they are all gone. so why is she still here?— she still here? mr speaker. mr seaker, she still here? mr speaker. mr speaker. i— she still here? mr speaker. mr speaker. i am _ she still here? mr speaker. mr speaker, i am a _ she still here? mr speaker. mr speaker, i am a fighter- she still here? mr speaker. mr speaker, i am a fighter and - she still here? mr speaker. mr| speaker, i am a fighter and not she still here? mr speaker. mr. speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter! — speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter! i— speaker, i am a fighter and not a quitter! i have acted in the national— quitter! i have acted in the national interest to make sure that we have _ national interest to make sure that we have economic stability. liz truss also _ we have economic stability. l2 truss also faced questions about

whether the government would keep the promise it'd made to maintain what's called a two block on the state pension for it either by 2.5% or in with average earnings or in line with inflation, which is currently soaring, whichever is the highest. currently soaring, whichever is the hi . hest. currently soaring, whichever is the hiahest. ., , currently soaring, whichever is the hiahest. . , ., , currently soaring, whichever is the hiahest. . , , highest. the latest has put pensioners _ highest. the latest has put pensioners in _ highest. the latest has put pensioners in the - highest. the latest has put pensioners in the front - highest. the latest has putj pensioners in the front line highest. the latest has put i pensioners in the front line of highest. the latest has put - pensioners in the front line of tory cuts. so can the prime minister perhaps turned to her chancellor right now, get permission to make another u—turn and commit to raising the state pension at the rate of inflation? i the state pension at the rate of inflation? ., , , ., �* the state pension at the rate of inflation? ., , , ~ ., inflation? i honestly don't know what the honourable _ inflation? i honestly don't know| what the honourable gentleman inflation? i honestly don't know. what the honourable gentleman is talking _ what the honourable gentleman is talking about. because... we have been _ talking about. because... we have been clear— talking about. because... we have been clear in our manifesto that we will maintain the triple locked and i am completely committed to it, so is the _ i am completely committed to it, so is the chancellor.— is the chancellor. now the man to the riaht is the chancellor. now the man to the right is _ is the chancellor. now the man to the right is a _ is the chancellor. now the man to the right is a foreign _ is the chancellor. now the man to the right is a foreign secretary . the right is a foreign secretary james cleverley. on the radio just this morning he had declined to

confirm that there was a commitment to keep the triple locked in place. i know your viewers would want me to give certainty here and now. i'm not in a position to do that because the announcements are going to be made in the very near future by the chancellor. that's the right thing to do. but i completely understand it when people are feeling pressure on their bills, worried about their mortgages going out, worried about how much it cost to fill their car or heat their homes. we absolutely get it. we've got to do the right thing to make sure that we manage the economy well. we've got to make sure that our cost of borrowing doesn't go up because that has an impact on inflation and those bills as well. , ., , , ., ~ ., as well. james cleverley talking to bbc breakfast _ as well. james cleverley talking to bbc breakfast earlier. _ as well. james cleverley talking to bbc breakfast earlier. it _ as well. james cleverley talking to bbc breakfast earlier. it is - as well. james cleverley talking to bbc breakfast earlier. it is a - bbc breakfast earlier. it is a former pensions minister, conservatives on why the triple locked is so important for pensioners.— locked is so important for ensioners. , , pensioners. this is absolutely critical to _

pensioners. this is absolutely critical to the _ pensioners. this is absolutely critical to the future - pensioners. this is absolutely critical to the future of - pensioners. this is absolutely critical to the future of our . critical to the future of our welfare _ critical to the future of our welfare state and social policy. of course _ welfare state and social policy. of course there are some well off pensioners. there are some very well off people _ pensioners. there are some very well off people all over the country who paid little — off people all over the country who paid little or no tax. but that is not the — paid little or no tax. but that is not the way to run social policy. we have _ not the way to run social policy. we have just _ not the way to run social policy. we have just about the lowest state pension — have just about the lowest state pension in the developed world. we're _ pension in the developed world. we're not — pension in the developed world. we're not talking about a huge sum. we're _ we're not talking about a huge sum. we're talking about a basic state pension, — we're talking about a basic state pension, which is somewhere around £7,000 _ pension, which is somewhere around £7,000 a _ pension, which is somewhere around £7,000 a year. just pension, which is somewhere around £7,000 a year-— £7,000 a year. just to sum up developments _ £7,000 a year. just to sum up developments to _ £7,000 a year. just to sum up developments to the - £7,000 a year. just to sum up developments to the course i £7,000 a year. just to sum upj developments to the course of £7,000 a year. just to sum up - developments to the course of today wednesday. an apparent shift of government policy and public spending support for the eldest in our society. the departure of the home secretary, redesigning but making clear that she is unhappy with the governments direction and policy under liz truss. a vote that was a vote of confidence and there wasn't a vote of confidence, chaos in the division lobbies and still not clear whether or not the government cheap whipple deputy

chief webb are still in the government. you are watching bbc news. hello. many people it's been a much cloudy day today with fairly gusty winds around. low pressure to ourselves was firmly in charge, throw in these bands are cloud across the country, some of us eating rain as well. was it all doom and gloom, we saw sunshine coming through cross london england. temperatures reached 20 degrees across a cell. whilst it was mild and sunny across parts of the south we had this really heavy area of rain that worked into northern ireland. i wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of localised flooding. that was really the clouds gathering the first side of the system working its way in. overnight tonight we do have more heavy rain on the way. the rain is going to be heaviest across the western side of the country,

particularly for northern island and parts of western southwest scotland. the rain probably not too heavy across eastern areas of england. temperatures overnight if the double figures so it is another mild night. tomorrow we do have more wet weather on the way. it's from the same area of low pressure but this time the heaviest rain is going to come from this developing part of the weather system across portugal and spain for that with the bulk of rain expected to work across france of the uk some uncertainty with the heaviest rain will be tomorrow. almost certainly yes across eastern areas of england. however, the system could be more developed. if that happens we will see the rain notjust affecting eastern england but becoming more widespread across the midlands, northern england and southern scotland. the rain where it does arrive is likely to be heavy, perhaps with a bit of thunder mixed in. the winds a little bit lighter for northern ireland, england and wales but picking up and strengthen scotland. friday, low pressure is still with us, the same one. it can move anywhere because it's pinned

and trapped his area of high pressure to these. it will continue to throw up heavy showers or bands of rain from the southwest again some of the rain quite heavy with a bit of thunder mixed in. the winds picking up again for northern ireland, england and wales with in lancaster reaching 30, or miles per hour. in brighter moments we could see particularly high temperatures for the time of year with ten 220 in norwich, 5 degrees about the seasonal average. the weekend, i wouldn't guarantee it stays dry anywhere saturday or sunday. there is still good to be plenty of showers around. it will stay quite breezy and pretty mild once again.

hello and welcome your watching bbc news. laterwestminster hello and welcome your watching bbc news. later westminster in central london after another tumultuous day in british politics. the interior minister has resigned from the government on wednesday, the second cabinet minister that the prime minister liz truss to leave in less than a week. she admits making a mistake with communications but also attacked the direction of government policy. i5 attacked the direction of government oli . , , ., attacked the direction of government policy. is this a correlation of chaos? grant _ policy. is this a correlation of chaos? grant has _ policy. is this a correlation of chaos? grant has been - policy. is this a correlation of i chaos? grant has been recalled policy. is this a correlation of - chaos? grant has been recalled from the cabinet and _ chaos? grant has been recalled from the cabinet and replaces _ chaos? grant has been recalled from the cabinet and replaces proper - chaos? grant has been recalled from the cabinet and replaces proper men as the new home secretary. the government chief whip responsible

for party discipline and the