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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty here in downing street, after the resignation of the uk's shortest serving prime minister, and charlie stayt in the studio in salford. our headlines today. the uk will have a new prime minister in place by next friday, after liz truss quit yesterday, barely six weeks into the job. many familar faces are being touted as possible replacements, including the ex—prime minister borisjohnson. we'll have reaction throughout the morning here in westminster.
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good morning from birmingham wholesale market. i'll be getting reactions from traders. we'll speak to the parents of teenager harry dunn after their three—year battle for justice which yesterday saw an american woman plead guilty to causing his death by careless driving. steven gerard is sacked by aston villa. he lost his job, after villa's defeat at fulham last night, with the club 17th in the premier league. and it's the final day for the children in need rickshaw challenge team. we'll be with them as they set off on the last leg of the journey. hopefully much drierfor hopefully much drier for them as well and certainly a dry day for eastern areas compared with yesterday. heavy showers in the west. details on that and your weekend forecast coming up here on your friday morning edition of breakfast. good morning. it's friday 21st october and i'm outside number 10 downing street.
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liz truss moved into this famous building when she became prime ministerjust six weeks ago. by the end of next week at the latest she'll be gone, making her the shortest serving prime minister in british history. she tendered her resignation to king charles yesterday after a premiership marred by financial turmoil, a series of humiliating u—turns and key ministerial sackings, and a day of chaos in parliament in which party discipline fell apart. on today's breakfast we'll be looking at what went wrong for liz truss and how the next incumbent of number ten will be selected by a week today. we'll be speaking to some of the mps backing the frontrunners, and to opposition parties and politicaljournalists here in westminster. we'll also bring you reaction from voters and businesses around the uk. first, our political correspondent ione wells reports on yet another historic and remarkable day in british politics. the shortest—serving prime minister in british history. her position unsalvageable. we set out a vision for a low—tax,
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high—growth economy that would take advantage of the freedoms of brexit. i recognise, though, given the situation, i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. i therefore have spoken to his majesty the king to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party. so attention now turns to who will replace her. tory mps have until 2pm on monday to nominate a new leader. they will need 100 nominations to make it onto the ballot. that means a maximum of three tory mps could make the cut. if only one gets 100 nominations from colleagues, they will automatically become leader. if there's more than one there'll be an mps vote, and then tory members will pick between the final two in an online vote, with the whole thing done by 28th october. so, who are tory mps talking up for the top spot here?
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no mps have officially said they will run yet, but rishi sunak, who came second in the summer, is someone a lot of mps have already come out in support of. cabinet ministers penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch, who ran for the leadership this summer, are also being mentioned by some tory mps. as is suella braverman, who resigned just this week as home secretary. and then there's this man, the former prime minister boris johnson, forced to resignjust months ago after mass resignations from his own government. hasta la vista, baby. add a series of scandals over downing street parties, and revelations that he knew about sexual misconduct allegations involving one of his senior government colleagues. some tory mps said they'd consider resigning as a conservative mp if he was elected again. others are now calling for him to return. conservative sources say the business secretary jacob rees—mogg has encouraged colleagues to back him. and other mps have said he is the only person with a mandate from the general public in an election.
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0pposition parties, though, think it's time for a new election now. i really don't think another revolving door of chaos, another experiment at the top of the tory party, is the way out of this. what needs to happen now? well, on a uk level, there must be a general election. it is a democratic necessity. we don't need another- conservative prime minister. they need to go. we need another general election. let me just get a show of hands. it's not scientific, but it's just to get an idea. who here would like a general election? an election is something tory mps will want to avoid, with the polls looking bad for them. the immediate race is to see which of them can get the support of 100 colleagues over the weekend to have a shot at that top job. ione wells, bbc news. so that's what happened. what is going to happen next? let's get more from our political correspondent helen catt. what a time we've had so far but i was on the train yesterday talking
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to someone and she just said to me, ijust want some to someone and she just said to me, i just want some stability. if there is chaos up there, what kind of example are we expected to follow? that's what people want now. it is of course what _ that's what people want now. it is of course what is _ that's what people want now. it 3 of course what is needed if you think back to what the chancellor was saying earlier this week. it's big word was stability. it's a stability that they want to want to project, to calm things down, the financial markets too, so that is partly why they are trying to move so quickly to get someone else in there. we should have a new prime minister by the latest next friday. the reason we say that is if someone gets the total number of votes, then we will know on monday. we gets the total number of votes, then we will know on monday.— we will know on monday. we could have a new — we will know on monday. we could have a new occupant _ we will know on monday. we could have a new occupant by _ we will know on monday. we could have a new occupant by monday i have a new occupant by monday potentially because the bar for being nominated has been set purposefully high at 100 mps so if only one candidate where to get 100 mps that they would automatically become the prime minister. if there are two, they can only be three is a maximum because of the mathematics of how many conservative mps there are, then mps will vote on monday
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evening so you could then have a result by monday. if there are three under has to go down to two it will then go to the members and take a bit longer but the party has said they were complete this whole process within a week. we went throu . h process within a week. we went through the _ process within a week. we went through the runners _ process within a week. we went through the runners and - process within a week. we went through the runners and riders. process within a week. we went i through the runners and riders and we got to talk about borisjohnson because the papers and we'll get to those in a moment say he could come back, the rumours are flying. we saw his quote from parliament but we should play this because it gave a hint not so long ago. like cincinnatus, _ hint not so long ago. like cincinnatus, i— hint not so long ago. like cincinnatus, i am - hint not so long ago. like l cincinnatus, i am returning hint not so long ago. like - cincinnatus, i am returning to hint not so long ago. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my plan _ cincinnatus, i am returning to my plan and — cincinnatus, i am returning to my plan and i— cincinnatus, i am returning to my plan. and i will be offering this government nothing but the most fervent_ government nothing but the most fervent support. government nothing but the most fervent smart-— government nothing but the most fervent sunport-— fervent support. couldn't get a bi aer fervent support. couldn't get a bigger hint _ fervent support. couldn't get a bigger hint than _ fervent support. couldn't get a bigger hint than that, - fervent support. couldn't get a bigger hint than that, could . fervent support. couldn't get a i bigger hint than that, could you? no, there was a lot of talk about that reference, roman statesman, who did go back to his farm when he done his bit for the public but crucially as the story goes he came back to serve again when called upon, so
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there was a lot of talk at the time that that was signalling a return for borisjohnson and there is certainly, he does have supporters in parliament are urging that. the argument for it they say is he was leading the conservatives when they won the 2019 general election and therefore he has a mandate although of course we don't have a presidential system, so you are voting personally for the prime minister said that the argument for it to be played jacob rees—mogg we understand are trying to raise support there, but of course, that's not going to go down well with a lot of his other mp5. there are at least one who said they would quit the parliamentary party if he were to come back, i think it would be very difficult also to the public why you are putting someone back in number ten who you said his qualities were not there to be the prime minister a few months ago. not there to be the prime minister a few months age-— not there to be the prime minister a few months ago-— few months ago. helen, we will be talkin: few months ago. helen, we will be talking throughout _ few months ago. helen, we will be talking throughout the _ few months ago. helen, we will be talking throughout the morning. i talking throughout the morning. thank you. let's take a look at today's papers. the battle to become the next prime minister dominates the front pages this morning. "boris v rishi" is the daily mail's headline. no formal declarations have been
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made but borisjohnson and rishi sunak were leading the race last night, according to the paper. the daily telegraph says borisjohnson is privately encouraging mps to support him returning to downing street and has pledged that only he can win the conservatives the next election. let's take a look at today's papers. a very clear message from the daily mirror with its headline "general election now". and "lettuce rejoice" says the daily star which has spent the last week or so monitoring whether a lettuce would outlast the premiership of liz truss, and it did. now we can go to birmingham. larry, the cat, the most permanent resident i think of downing street of recent times, is still here so there is your continuity which is what people want to hear. hannah is gauging that from businesses and parties at birmingham wholesale market. good
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morning. birmingham wholesale market. good morninu. birmingham wholesale market. good mornin., ., birmingham wholesale market. good morninu. ., , , morning. good morning. yes, there is continuity here _ morning. good morning. yes, there is continuity here as _ morning. good morning. yes, there is continuity here as well, _ morning. good morning. yes, there is continuity here as well, life _ morning. good morning. yes, there is continuity here as well, life goes - continuity here as well, life goes on, it's busy, people carrying on with theirjobs, wishing frankly politicians could get on with that too. the financial markets actually reacted pretty well yesterday. when liz truss resigned, the pound rose against the dollar, borrowing costs fell so we've come to this real—life market to see how people feel and we've got mark over here. good morning. we talk to you before and it's still going on, so what you make of it?— it's still going on, so what you make of it? �* ., , ,, make of it? i'm not shocked. in the last month, — make of it? i'm not shocked. in the last month, she _ make of it? i'm not shocked. in the last month, she buried _ make of it? i'm not shocked. in the last month, she buried the - make of it? i'm not shocked. in the last month, she buried the queen, | last month, she buried the queen, the pound — last month, she buried the queen, the pound in the british economy, so i'm not— the pound in the british economy, so i'm not shocked to be honest and we are looking _ i'm not shocked to be honest and we are looking for a bit of stability after_ are looking for a bit of stability after this _ are looking for a bit of stability after this. we need someone who knows _ after this. we need someone who knows the — after this. we need someone who knows the monetary system, we need to get— knows the monetary system, we need to get the _ knows the monetary system, we need to get the pound stronger, because all the _ to get the pound stronger, because all the produce here is costing us more _ all the produce here is costing us more money with a weak pound. how damauuin more money with a weak pound. how damaging has — more money with a weak pound. firm" damaging has the last few weeks been for your business? titer? damaging has the last few weeks been for your business?— for your business? very damaging financiallv- _ for your business? very damaging
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financially. making _ for your business? very damaging financially. making the _ for your business? very damaging financially. making the market - for your business? very damaging financially. making the market is. financially. making the market is very short. — financially. making the market is very short, making everything expensive, so hopefully now, we get somebody— expensive, so hopefully now, we get somebody in, rishi sunak or somebody, who's got a good financial background, and can sort it out. what _ background, and can sort it out. what do — background, and can sort it out. what do you think when life is carrying on as normal here, so what's your kind of immediate reaction? ihla what's your kind of immediate reaction? ., . ., ., reaction? no change. you were exoecting _ reaction? no change. you were exoecting this _ reaction? no change. you were expecting this a _ reaction? no change. you were expecting this a little _ reaction? no change. you were expecting this a little bit. - expecting this a little bit. everybodyjust gets on with their lives _ everybodyjust gets on with their lives it— everybodyjust gets on with their lives. it doesn't really affect us a lot. lives. it doesn't really affect us a lot it's _ lives. it doesn't really affect us a lot it'siust_ lives. it doesn't really affect us a lot. it'sjust another lives. it doesn't really affect us a lot. it's just another person at number— lot. it's just another person at number ten. lot. it's just another person at numberten. the lot. it's just another person at number ten. the decisions are all made _ number ten. the decisions are all made by— number ten. the decisions are all made by the cabinet. life number ten. the decisions are all made by the cabinet.— made by the cabinet. life carries on. do made by the cabinet. life carries on- do you _ made by the cabinet. life carries on. do you have _ made by the cabinet. life carries on. do you have any— made by the cabinet. life carries on. do you have any feelings - made by the cabinet. life carries l on. do you have any feelings about who you would like to be the next prime minister?— who you would like to be the next prime minister? rishi sunak, more stabili , prime minister? rishi sunak, more stability, there's _ prime minister? rishi sunak, more stability, there's rumours - prime minister? rishi sunak, more stability, there's rumours steven . stability, there's rumours steven gerrard _ stability, there's rumours steven gerrard is— stability, there's rumours steven gerrard is that aston villa to go was the — gerrard is that aston villa to go was the next prime minister and liz were going — was the next prime minister and liz were going to manage aston villa. we talk to were going to manage aston villa. talk to you were going to manage aston villa. - talk to you about these over here, we've got some lettuces, and it was famously said liz truss had the
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she” famously said liz truss had the shelf life of a lettuce. how long do lettuces last? 45 days, one day longer. b. lettuces last? 45 days, one day loner. �* , ., ., , , longer. a couple of months. kept in the riaht longer. a couple of months. kept in the right conditions. _ longer. a couple of months. kept in the right conditions. we _ longer. a couple of months. kept in the right conditions. we have - longer. a couple of months. kept in the right conditions. we have ours i the right conditions. we have ours in everyday— the right conditions. we have ours in everyday fresh. fire the right conditions. we have ours in everyday fresh.— the right conditions. we have ours in everyday fresh. are you surprised b how in everyday fresh. are you surprised by how quickly _ in everyday fresh. are you surprised by how quickly this _ in everyday fresh. are you surprised by how quickly this is _ in everyday fresh. are you surprised by how quickly this is all _ in everyday fresh. are you surprised by how quickly this is all fallen - by how quickly this is all fallen apart? by how quickly this is all fallen a art? , ., ., �* , by how quickly this is all fallen aart? ., �*, , apart? yes and no. it's 'ust the whole conservative _ apart? yes and no. it'sjust the whole conservative party - apart? yes and no. it'sjust the whole conservative party the l apart? yes and no. it'sjust the - whole conservative party the moment is in turmoil — whole conservative party the moment is in turmoil. they need to steady the shin — is in turmoil. they need to steady the ship. the politics across the board _ the ship. the politics across the board is— the ship. the politics across the board is in— the ship. the politics across the board is in a bit of a mess. it'll make — board is in a bit of a mess. it'll make me — board is in a bit of a mess. it'll make me think more about voting. a lot more _ make me think more about voting. a lot more about where we are going financially — lot more about where we are going financially for the business, and for home — financially for the business, and for home life. it�*s financially for the business, and for home life.— financially for the business, and for home life. it's really nail down the kind of— for home life. it's really nail down the kind of impact _ for home life. it's really nail down the kind of impact politics - for home life. it's really nail down the kind of impact politics can - for home life. it's really nail down. the kind of impact politics can have on business in a very real way. yes. on business in a very real way. yes, we need more _ on business in a very real way. yes, we need more tax _ on business in a very real way. yes, we need more tax cuts, _ on business in a very real way. yes, we need more tax cuts, and - on business in a very real way. yes, we need more tax cuts, and it's all down _ we need more tax cuts, and it's all down to— we need more tax cuts, and it's all down to the — we need more tax cuts, and it's all down to the pound, the financial stability— down to the pound, the financial stability for companies. we've all -ot stability for companies. we've all got mortgages to pay and wages to pay, and — got mortgages to pay and wages to pay, and we need now to go, 0k, deep
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breath, _ pay, and we need now to go, 0k, deep breath, reset _ pay, and we need now to go, 0k, deep breath, reset and start again. thank ou ve breath, reset and start again. thank you very much _ breath, reset and start again. thank you very much for — breath, reset and start again. thank you very much for having _ breath, reset and start again. thank you very much for having us - breath, reset and start again. thank you very much for having us this - you very much for having us this morning, mark. you'll get reaction from people all around here this morning, but for now, i think it's time to go back to naga munchetty. thanks very much. interesting look at what people are saying there. the key watchword is stability, isn't it? that's what people want. they want stability when it comes to their finances too. quite a mild subtlety morning in contrast to yesterday when it was chucking it down. nick ed leigh says it never rains but it pours, how prophetic. now it's time for the weather with matt. good morning. 0ne good morning. one thing i can't promise through today and for the weekend, there will be quieter moments and certainly today eastern areas, a good deal drier than yesterday but there will be some lively downpours around, sunshine and showers as the name of the game for many. quite quiet across eastern
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england as he begot dense fog patches to take you through the next few hours. that could cause a problem on your morning commute but let's take a look at the radar chart for the rainfall. it's damp across parts of central and northern scotland, heavy thundery showers pushing through parts of the midlands at the moment so they will work their way northwards in the summers, but it's going to stay fairly damp in the rush hour. the northern half of scotland. showers pushing through parts of northern england as you saw. fog across lincolnshire and parts of east midlands. a scattering of showers elsewhere. to the south and east, a few showers around, most places will be dry but those showers will become more abundant especially across central and western areas are spreading into northern ireland through the day. the wind strengthening in the south—west as well as we will see gale force winds, later a bit further north. temperatures today still on the male side after a mile start. that's where a fair bit of cloud for many. —— mild start. there will be some showersjust —— mild start. there will be some showers just about anywhere through
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the night, taking us into tomorrow morning, sitting across scotland and northern ireland but overall for england and wales on saturday, the dry other two weekend days. more details on that later but for the time being, to charlie. thanks very much. let's take you through the rest of the days news no. an american woman has admitted responsibility for causing the death of 19—year—old harry dunn, who was knocked off his motorbike near a us military base in northamptonshire. anne sacoolas left the uk shortly after the incident, in august 2019, but yesterday pleaded guilty via video link from the states to causing death by careless driving. she will be sentenced next month. harry's family have long campaigned for anne sacoolas to face the uk justice system. to be perfectly honest, what happens from here on in... happens. for me, my promise done now. that promise that was made the night
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he was killed is done. i'm done. that was harry dunn's mother immediately after events yesterday. we'll be speaking to harry's parents at around a quarter past seven today. the health and care system in england has been described by regulators as "gridlocked", with patients at risk because they can't get the assistance they need. the care quality commission says more than half of patients are unable to leave hospital when they are ready because of a lack of support in the community. here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. whitby in rural north yorkshire is one of many places feeling the impact of what the regulator describes as a gridlocked health and care system in england. this is one ofjust two nursing homes in the area. there is constant demand for them to take patients ready to be discharged from local hospitals to free up beds there. but the home's manager says
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theyjust can't find enough staff. as of this afternoon, we'll have 16 residents. we can have up to 24. so we have a lot of empty rooms, but we are heavily reliant at the moment on agency staff, which have been fantastic. but i would be quite nervous about taking on any extra residents because we wouldn't properly be able to meet their needs. the home was facing closure earlier this year, but the local council persuaded the current provider to take it on with some restrictions. without this place there would have been worryingly few nursing beds locally, and joan, who has lived here for 12 years, would have had to find a new home. i was very disturbed because it meant i was losing a selection of friends. i wasn't cross because it wasn't anything i could do except protest to whoever was listening. and that was nobody.
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today's report by the care quality commission warns of alarmingly high staff vacancies in health and care in england with 300,000 unfilled jobs, more than half of them in social care. it says half a million people are waiting for council care services and three in five patients end up stuck in hospitals waiting for support in the community. we recently brought together 250 leaders across health and social care who are currently operating out there in the system and they described it as a system in crisis. they talked about unacceptable waits on ambulances, people stuck in hospital when they need to need to leave, and there is urgent action needed now to ensure that people can get the right support at the right time. are you ready to hand over? it's existing staff who have to fill in the gaps? ken is one of four nurses at the whitby home. they really need six. in terms of the last four weeks, we have people on annual leave, so i've been doing 60 hours and you think i'm doing four night
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shifts and two day shifts. my only time off is actually a sleep day. how long can you keep doing that? not long. the government says its own plans for health and care address the priorities highlighted by the qc and that it's putting extra money putting extra money into the recruitment and training of staff. alison holt, bbc news, whitby. iranian experts are helping russian troops to carry out drone attacks on ukraine, according to the white house. 0ur correspondent hugo bachega joins us now from kyiv, which was struck by so—called kamikaze drones earlier this week. hugo, what more do we know about these weapons? yes, we heard yesterday from joe kirby, the national security spokesman, saying iranian advice had been sent to russian occupied crimea
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to provide training at russian ships had some difficulties in operating these drones. moscow denies it is using these drones provided by iran, but washington says is plenty of evidence of these drones are iranian, and they have had a devastating impact here for the brush has been using this drones to attack critical civilian infrastructure ahead of winter. 0fficials here say about a third of the countries power stations have been hit, and for the first time yesterday, residents across the country faced restrictions on electricity consumption. today here in kyiv residents have been told to reduce their energy consumption to charge their phones, power banks, to reduce appliances which consume a lot of energy. there is a lot of concern about how the system is going to cope. i can tell you there's been a massivejob in the temperature here —— dropping the temperature here —— dropping the temperature here, it's now 0 celsius here in kyiv so there is a lot of
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concern about how the system will cope with the colder weather. thank ou ve cope with the colder weather. thank you very much- _ cope with the colder weather. thank you very much. one _ cope with the colder weather. thank you very much. one piece _ cope with the colder weather. thank you very much. one piece of - cope with the colder weather. thank you very much. one piece of news i cope with the colder weather. thank you very much. one piece of news to celebrate this morning. the three dads, who we've come to know very well on breakfast, have won another award for their tireless campaigning for suicide prevention. andy airey, tim owen and mike palmer, whose daughters took their own lives, will be honoured at the pride of britain awards next week. they recently completed a 600—mile walk between all four uk parliaments, in a bid to get suicide awareness on the national curriculum. congratulations to them. back to downing street in a few minutes' time. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. businesses across london and the south east have been reacting to liz truss stepping down as prime minister and are calling for the next leader to help put them on a path to growth.
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some say they've struggled due to the uncertainty in recent weeks in westminster and want more support. tony montalbano runs a vegetable growing firm in essex and now fears he could lose it due to rising energy bills. i've always known the nursery being full of queues, always in production. it's sad to see a nursery like this. i could just lose the whole business if things don't go to plan. all this week we've been looking at how difficult it is to find a place to live in the capital. a new scheme where homes are built exclusively for renters is being tipped as one way to help. it's in wembley and has now housed over 3,500 tenants, with 700 more flats being built in the next two years. you move in, you're on a contract and that's it, which is great. i know a lot of my friends... i was speaking to someone recently, who is renting from a private landlord and their rent has gone up by 40%, so they have to move out.
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here i know i'm safe and comfortable. and you can see more on that on our lunchtime programme at1.30pm. tickets for london's new year's eve fireworks display go on sale today. more than 100,000 are available from noon and they cost 15 pounds. but if you miss out you'll still be able to watch it on bbc one and iplayer. travel now and this is how the tubes are looking at the moment. there's a good service on all lines this morning. and for all the latest travel news where you are, tune into your bbc local radio station for regular updates throughout the morning. now on to the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. fewer showers around today compared to yesterday's very heavy ones yesterday morning. a little bit misty first thing this morning but that should lift. some sunshine. a few showers to start with but then heavier showers likely towards the end of the afternoon, and in those sharper showers, you might get a rumble of thunder. it is going to be breezy and blustery today. temperatures again mild at 19 celsius.
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now overnight, we'll still get these blustery showers moving through through the evening, but then, post midnight, it will start to dry out. we'll see clearer skies. the minimum temperature again double figures. it's going to be mild. 11-13. for saturday, it is looking like a largely dry start. still could see one or two showers but certainly fewer than today and from yesterday, and it is going to still be quite breezy. temperature—wise, though, because we have the sunshine tomorrow, it is going to feel very mild. more cloud for the afternoon moving in and temperatures reaching around 18 celsius. it is a more unsettled day for sunday. that low—pressure front heading towards us, we are going to see some heavier showers, so those showers potentially producing rumbles of thunder. quite a breezy day, as well, as we head towards the end of the weekend and staying unsettled yet mild into next week. you'll find more stories on our webite and social media — including the charity in south london that was given a masterclass by hollywood stunt riders. that's it, i'm back
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in around half an hour. beautiful morning here in london. good morning. you're watching breakfast with charlie in the studio and me here in downing street, as the conservative party prepares to pick another new prime minister — the fourth in less than four years — following liz truss's resignation yesterday afterjust 45 days in office. the contest to elect her as leader took the entire summer but this time the process will be much shorter. we could find out who's replacing her as early as monday. conservative mps have until then to nominate their preferred candidate. each candidate needs at least 100 nominations. if only one candidate achieves that, they'll be declared prime minister on monday afternoon. if more than one candidate gets 100 nominations, then there will be an mps' vote. depending on the result of that, the final decision could be made by tory party members voting online. in a moment, i'm going to speak
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to a pair of politicaljournalists. we will find out what they think. first, let's hear how liz truss's decision to throw in the towel went down outside of westminster, including her own constituency of downham market in norfolk. i think that the party probably told her to go, so she probably fell on her sword. she's full of everything but promised nothing and reversed everything. so yeah, she's done the right thing by resigning. i don't think she's a great loss, to be honest. - i mean, she's ground the countryl down to its knees, and ijust hope that whoever comes in next can pull us out of this mess - that we're in really. i'm happy that she's gone. i don't think she was doing a good job. i don't think things were going as they planned. and i'd really be happy if we had a general election. i voted conservative last time and i probably still would. the tories have been in power for a while now, and it seemsl like it's the same every time, so other people i should be given a chance.
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i don't think we need a general election, not around christmas. it'd be too much. there's enough going on without that. they need to sort things out in the short term and then maybe next year we'll see what happens. i'm joined now by two seasoned westminster watchers — george parker of the financial times and anna isaac of the guardian. good morning. have you slept well? did it feel like, 0k,, fine, it is over? i did it feel like, 0k,, fine, it is over? ., , ., , ., ., ., ., over? i got sent a photograph of an mp's bloodshot _ over? i got sent a photograph of an mp's bloodshot eye _ over? i got sent a photograph of an mp's bloodshot eye this _ over? i got sent a photograph of an mp's bloodshot eye this morning. l over? i got sent a photograph of an l mp's bloodshot eye this morning. do you think i will keep my seat? people are exhausted of the shenanigans. less than six weeks and we are going to have a changing of the guard again. there is relief it did not drag on for longer after the experience with borisjohnson and the will he, won't he go was a
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narrative for weeks. people are relieved it is done with and will be turned around pretty quickly. the liuhts turned around pretty quickly. the lights have _ turned around pretty quickly. the lights have just gone into downing street _ lights have just gone into downing street li2— lights have just gone into downing street. liz truss almost felt a weight— street. liz truss almost felt a weight lifting from her shoulders, not the _ weight lifting from her shoulders, not the high emanation you might have expected from such an end to the premiership. —— not the high emotion — the premiership. —— not the high emotion i— the premiership. —— not the high emotion. i was watching question time _ emotion. i was watching question time last— emotion. i was watching question time last night and everyone was saying _ time last night and everyone was saying this — time last night and everyone was saying this has to stop, we need a general— saying this has to stop, we need a general election to clear things out. people are furious. conservative mps are exhausted and we are _ conservative mps are exhausted and we are exhausted because we have been _ we are exhausted because we have been reporting on this psychodrama for months. the been reporting on this psychodrama for months. ~ , ., been reporting on this psychodrama for months-— for months. the keyword we have heard from _ for months. the keyword we have heard from people _ for months. the keyword we have heard from people instability. - for months. the keyword we have heard from people instability. wej heard from people instability. we want to know what those in charge are going to do, guiding us on economic turmoil, they want clear direction. are we going to get that?
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it should be short and sharp at the threshold of 100 mp5, i think it is designed to make it very challenging bar to get through. will be pretty challenging for borisjohnson to reach that threshold, despite reports of him returning from holiday. he is aware of that that is trying to throw everything at it. that should mean you get two to three front runners but really it will be coming down to two people and most people expect that to be rishi sunak and penny mordaunt, who is currently serving in the current government. is currently serving in the current government-— is currently serving in the current covernment. , ., , government. others have said they are not running. _ government. others have said they are not running. jeremy _ government. others have said they are not running. jeremy hunt - government. others have said they are not running. jeremy hunt has l are not running. jeremy hunt has said he is not _ are not running. jeremy hunt has said he is not running. _ are not running. jeremy hunt has said he is not running. people . are not running. jeremy hunt has| said he is not running. people will be hoping — said he is not running. people will be hoping that whoever comes in as prime _ be hoping that whoever comes in as prime minister will keepjeremy hunt as prime _ prime minister will keepjeremy hunt as prime minister. the budget is more _ as prime minister. the budget is more or— as prime minister. the budget is more or less written. tory mps have said it _ more or less written. tory mps have said it is _ more or less written. tory mps have said it is so — more or less written. tory mps have said it is so reassuring going to see him. — said it is so reassuring going to see him, listening to him explaining
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things _ see him, listening to him explaining things he _ see him, listening to him explaining things. he will have to take really tough _ things. he will have to take really tough economic decisions. new tax rises _ tough economic decisions. new tax rises and _ tough economic decisions. new tax rises and more spending cuts. it will be _ rises and more spending cuts. it will be very— rises and more spending cuts. it will be very tough. there will be a lot of— will be very tough. there will be a lot of circus — will be very tough. there will be a lot of circus stuff around boris johnson — lot of circus stuff around boris johnson. we will be tracking his return— johnson. we will be tracking his return from the caribbean but i cannot — return from the caribbean but i cannot see how he will get 100 votes — cannot see how he will get 100 votes. , ., . . cannot see how he will get 100 votes. _, , votes. our political correspondent s - oke votes. our political correspondent soke to votes. our political correspondent spoke to people — votes. our political correspondent spoke to people who _ votes. our political correspondent spoke to people who said - votes. our political correspondent spoke to people who said they - votes. our political correspondent i spoke to people who said they would quit if borisjohnson got back in. there is james cleverley, michael gove and tom tugendhat as well. how important when we look at where they throw their support? the important when we look at where they throw their support?— throw their support? the big name missin: throw their support? the big name missing from _ throw their support? the big name missing from that _ throw their support? the big name missing from that is _ throw their support? the big name missing from that is ben _ throw their support? the big name missing from that is ben wallace. l throw their support? the big namej missing from that is ben wallace. i think— missing from that is ben wallace. i think he _ missing from that is ben wallace. i think he will not throw his hat into the ring _ think he will not throw his hat into the ring he — think he will not throw his hat into the ring. he is notjust defence secretary. _ the ring. he is notjust defence secretary, he is the war minister, given— secretary, he is the war minister, given relations with russia. i cannot— given relations with russia. i cannot see many of the names you have _ cannot see many of the names you have read —
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cannot see many of the names you have read out really knocking penny mordaunt _ have read out really knocking penny mordaunt or rishi sunak off the 100 threshold _ mordaunt or rishi sunak off the 100 threshold. there will be sent over the weekend of people getting in behind, — the weekend of people getting in behind, particularly penny, i think. i behind, particularly penny, i think. i have _ behind, particularly penny, i think. i have noticed a language with people supporting penny mordaunt or rishi sunak. no one is dismissing the other of being particularly rude. if they are supporting rishi sunak, i think david davis, rude. if they are supporting rishi sunak, ithink david davis, he rude. if they are supporting rishi sunak, i think david davis, he said he would be happy with either. they are conscious of getting the nastiness out of the atmosphere. that is what would happen if boris johnson re—entered the frame. if he came back it would be an absolute psychodrama if borisjohnson returned. they are trying to arrange a situation where, in an ideal scenario you would get penny mordaunt and rishi sunak in a room, one of the wins, one would to serving a government, in a sense of bringing the party back together. in
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an ideal scenario they would rather it did not go out to the party membership that shows liz truss last time. they were two on the shortlist and one agrees to step down voluntarily rather than going through another few days of this filter if we get the announcement of a new prime minister, and we will, before october the 31st, is there any hint thatjeremy hunt's plans as chancellor, those plans are going to change? it is very unlikely. there is the sheer need... it would not take a lot for things to get wobbly. the gilt market has calmed down. particularly their sense of damage mitigation. this is the mode everyone is in. how can we minimise the damage for the party? it is about detoxifying the conservative brand. any sense there was going to be a radical u—turn again and again on the plans indicated byjeremy
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hunt. on the plans indicated by jeremy hunt. ~ ., on the plans indicated by jeremy hunt. ~ . , , on the plans indicated by jeremy hunt. ~ . ,, ., hunt. we had liz truss committing to the tri - le hunt. we had liz truss committing to the triple lock — hunt. we had liz truss committing to the triple lock on _ hunt. we had liz truss committing to the triple lock on the _ hunt. we had liz truss committing to the triple lock on the pensions. - hunt. we had liz truss committing to the triple lock on the pensions. ben l the triple lock on the pensions. ben wallace would say he would quit if he did not get the 3% rise in defence funding. i he did not get the 3% rise in defence funding.— he did not get the 3% rise in defence funding. he did not get the 396 rise in defence fundinu. , defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ri -|n~ defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up — defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up the _ defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up the whole _ defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up the whole thing. - defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up the whole thing. not. defence funding. i thinkjeremy hunt is ripping up the whole thing. not a i is ripping up the whole thing. not a single _ is ripping up the whole thing. not a single commitment made by liz truss which _ single commitment made by liz truss which will— single commitment made by liz truss which will stand in the budget. i think which will stand in the budget. think we which will stand in the budget. i think we could see a shift in the triple lock, that is for sure. it is so costly to go across the 10% threshold. ii so costly to go across the 1096 threshold-— threshold. if you are in the position — threshold. if you are in the position you _ threshold. if you are in the position you want - threshold. if you are in the position you want to - threshold. if you are in the position you want to take l threshold. if you are in the l position you want to take all threshold. if you are in the - position you want to take all the difficult — position you want to take all the difficult decisions now. reassure the markets and then if things start to go— the markets and then if things start to go better than you thought, unwind — to go better than you thought, unwind it— to go better than you thought, unwind it again nearer to the election _ unwind it again nearer to the election. it unwind it again nearer to the election. , ., unwind it again nearer to the election. , . , election. it will be an interesting coule of election. it will be an interesting couple of days — election. it will be an interesting couple of days as _ election. it will be an interesting couple of days as we _ election. it will be an interesting couple of days as we discover i election. it will be an interesting l couple of days as we discover who election. it will be an interesting - couple of days as we discover who is putting themselves forward as a replacement for liz truss and who is ruling themselves out.
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now it's back to charlie in the studio. let's pick up on some of the thoughts about who might stand. if penny mordaunt does stand, one conservative mp who'll be backing her isjohn lamont. hejoins me now from westminster. good morning to you. thank you for your time this morning. let's start with the basics. is penny mordaunt going to want to be the new prime minister? i going to want to be the new prime minister? ~ ., , ., , , minister? i know penny has been s-ueakin minister? i know penny has been speaking to _ minister? i know penny has been speaking to colleagues _ minister? i know penny has been speaking to colleagues over - minister? i know penny has been speaking to colleagues over the l minister? i know penny has been i speaking to colleagues over the last few hours. i have heard many friends and colleagues expressing support for penny. during the campaign in the summer she was a surprise candidate, coming through. built up a lot of momentum over the summer, notjust in the parliamentary party but with the membership and the wider country as well. i hope she does decide to stand. i would be excited about her as prime minister.
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we will wait to see when she finally announces. ii i we will wait to see when she finally announces. ., we will wait to see when she finally announces-— we will wait to see when she finally announces. . , ., , ., announces. ifi am understanding you write, i announces. ifi am understanding you write. i assume _ announces. ifi am understanding you write, i assume you _ announces. ifi am understanding you write, i assume you know— announces. ifi am understanding you write, i assume you know her- announces. ifi am understanding you write, i assume you know her well, i write, i assume you know her well, she is asking around to get a sense of what level of support there is for her before saying officially she will be standing. would that be the right way of summing it up? mi right way of summing it up? fill candidates are doing the same. all the potential candidates to the leader and prime minister speaking to colleagues, understanding how much support they have. the 1922 committee say you need 100 nominations before you are a candidate, that is a very high threshold and the right approach before we had a streamline election. 100 mp5 before we had a streamline election. 100 mps is a high benchmark. important to have that support before moving forward. i am very encouraged by the discussions i had been having with colleagues. penny similarly has been speaking to mps and hopefully she will be able to get that support. pare and hopefully she will be able to get that support-— and hopefully she will be able to get that support. are you able to rive me a get that support. are you able to give me a sense _
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get that support. are you able to give me a sense of _ get that support. are you able to give me a sense of how- get that support. are you able to give me a sense of how many i get that support. are you able to i give me a sense of how many people you'd think would support penny mordaunt? ., , you'd think would support penny mordaunt? . , , ., mordaunt? that is impossible to say. mordaunt? that is impossible to say. m ho -e is mordaunt? that is impossible to say. my hope is that _ mordaunt? that is impossible to say. my hope is that penny _ mordaunt? that is impossible to say. my hope is that penny would - mordaunt? that is impossible to say. my hope is that penny would get i mordaunt? that is impossible to say. my hope is that penny would get a i my hope is that penny would get a 100 nominations. my hope is she would then become leader and prime minister. she has a capacity not only to unite the country and unite the party but really move us forward. she can bring us all together, bring all the different talents and skills the conservative party has into the cabinet and government and drive the country forward. 0ver government and drive the country forward. over the last few weeks and months, the party has been a bit divided. it has not been focused on the priority of the country are not focused on delivering the 2019 manifesto we are all elected on. penny would be very focused and driven. we would be united and all the talent in the conservative
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party. the talent in the conservative pa . ~ ., ., the talent in the conservative pa . ~ ., ._ ., the talent in the conservative pa . ., , party. on monday, were there to be two candidates. _ party. on monday, were there to be two candidates, and _ party. on monday, were there to be two candidates, and you _ party. on monday, were there to be two candidates, and you are i party. on monday, were there to be two candidates, and you are going i party. on monday, were there to be | two candidates, and you are going to be part of this process, you're going to have a date, were there to be two candidates and they would have a different amount of support at that time, one could have 180 and one could have less than that, why not at that point the person who is behind in the contest you say, let's get to it, you take over. we do an agreement between the two of us that we do not drag out the process. go to the membership, and otherfour or five days. to the membership, and other four or five da s. ~ ., ,, to the membership, and other four or fiveda s. ~ ., ., ., five days. would you approve of that? i five days. would you approve of that? i want _ five days. would you approve of that? l want to _ five days. would you approve of that? i want to see _ five days. would you approve of that? i want to see the - five days. would you approve of that? i want to see the process| that? i want to see the process concluded as quickly as possible. the country once this process to be over with as quickly as possible. we do not know who any of the candidates will be, never mind he final two all the top candidate. my strong view and hope is that penny
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mordaunt would be part of that. i think she has the qualities and positivity to drive the country forward. who knows what the outcome would be on monday? we want this to be a speedy process and the next leader and prime minister to be in place as soon as possible. it is not a preposterous. — place as soon as possible. it is not a preposterous, hypothetical i a preposterous, hypothetical question. somebody will be a head when you have two candidates. would it not be best to go, that person becomes prime minister? i am auareein becomes prime minister? i am agreeing with _ becomes prime minister? i am agreeing with you, _ becomes prime minister? i am agreeing with you, charlie. i becomes prime minister? i —n agreeing with you, charlie. i want to see the process concluded as quickly as possible. this to see the process concluded as quickly as possible.— to see the process concluded as quickly as possible. as a person who has a vote in — quickly as possible. as a person who has a vote in this, _ quickly as possible. as a person who has a vote in this, you _ quickly as possible. as a person who has a vote in this, you would i quickly as possible. as a person who has a vote in this, you would say, i has a vote in this, you would say, the person who is ahead on monday should be prime minister, is that what you think? mr; should be prime minister, is that what you think?— what you think? my personal preference — what you think? my personal preference would _ what you think? my personal preference would be - what you think? my personal preference would be given i what you think? my personal- preference would be given where we are now, preference in the np stage would become prime minister. —— the
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np stage. we need to carry out this process as quickly as possible. my view is it should be for mps to determine the process, given the circumstances we find ourselves in and then needed to conclude this as quickly as possible. my hope is penny will be one of the candidates and ultimately be prime minister. thank you for your time this morning. much appreciated. now for the sport. 11 games into the new premier league season. pressure to stay in the league is so great, chairman, boards, they act sooner rather than later and hit the panic button if things do not go well. steven gerrard has run out of time at aston villa. after 11 months in charge, steven gerrard's time at aston villa has come to an end — he was sacked, shortly after their 3—0 defeat to fulham last night in the premier league,
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leaving villa with just two wins this season. beforehand, gerrard had spoken of his determination to fight on, but saw his team fall behind after half an hour, and it then went from bad to worse for him. there was a lack of discipline, as douglas luiz was sent off for this head butt. then the ten men of villa conceded a penalty, before tyrone mings completed the 3—0 defeat with an own goal. they were booed off the pitch by their travelling support who'sjob has been under threat — brendan rodgers at leicester. itjust seems the way of it now that every day a manager is losing hisjob or under threat to lose a job. i think stability and patience seems just to be running out in football. i am really, really disappointed in him. —— for him. i believed in time, and with that patience, he could have got them to where he wanted them to be and where the club want him to go. rodgers himself can now sleep easier now, after his leicester side moved off the bottom of the table, thanks to only their second win of the season against leeds.
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ironically, their manager, jessee marsh, now finds his position under scrutiny. his leeds side gifted leicester the lead, with an own goal by robin koch. and then a brilliant team effort was rounded off by harvey barnes, to make it 2—0 to leicester. so the pressure eases on rodgers but increases on marsh, with his team only out of the relegation zone on goal difference. we are not representing the club the way we want. i am trying to find solutions. that's all i can say. we're working incredibly hard and diligently to try to help the team to be successful, so no one is more disappointed than me. i've got to help try and find solutions for us to get better. cristiano ronaldo says he will keep working hard, the gunners are five points clear at the top of their group with a 100% record. they will be confirmed as group winners with a point on the reverse fixture in the netherlands next week.
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cristiano ronaldo says he will keep working hard, and supporting his team mates, after being left out of the squad for tomorrow's game at chelsea, for disciplinary reasons. as we showed you yesterday, ronaldo walked off down the tunnel before the end of wednesday night's win against tottenham at old trafford, after being an unused substitute. there's a lot of speculation, that it was the player himself, who refused to come on as a sub. he says the heat of the momentjust got to him. chelsea got off to a winning start in their women's champions league group, with a 1—0 win over paris st germain. the decisive goal was scored by england lioness millie bright after 25 minutes. chelsea failed to get out of their group last season. and psg reached the semi—finals. what a turnaround that is and what a great start for chelsea! with millie bright scoring, you get a feeling it is a bit of the afterglow from the euros. it has given english club is a real boost in europe. they can go into the competition where the competition with a real swagger.
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thank you. here's matt with a look at the weather. tha nkfully thankfully for some is canary is not as bad as yesterday. we saw two or three weeks worth of rain in the space of a few hours. —— thankfully fulsome in the east. the wind once again is fairly mild. the start on a warm note, low pressure is in the south—west. round it we are bringing wins all the way from iberia and france. this is what brought the heavy rain yesterday. you can see the showers developing across england and wales. in the last few hours some pretty intense and thundery ones. they will work north, for celeb it and then eastern areas
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we will see a few showers during their day. showers will become more abundant across central, western parts of england and wales. much essential scotland will brighten up. breezy here with the strongest of the winds in the south and west. that will temper the feel of the day somewhat. for this stage in october temperatures above where they should be. this evening and overnight we will continue with the general southerly drift. heavy and thundery ones in the south—east corner of england to take us into the early hours of tomorrow morning. tomorrow we start with cloud across scotland and northern ireland with outbreaks of rain. another mild start. it will be a drier day at the weekend across england and wales. another area of low pressure approaching on saturday. that will keep things dry. a lovely bright start for much of
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england and wales. brightening up in southern scotland and northern ireland. elsewhere cloud with outbreaks of rain and drizzle. in wales and south england we will see cloud increase in outbreaks of rain were pushing. temperatures climbing a little the relative to the last few days and staying on the mild side for most of you. on sunday the next area of low pressure pushes in. for england and wales there will be a patch of heavy rain working its way north. turning drier and brighter before more showers back into the south later. in scotland and northern ireland some tryout weather during the morning. some will stay dry throughout the day. sunday will be mailed around 14 to 19. next week we continue to push on some very warm and for this stage in what will be late october. further showers and thunderstorms around. in necessary amendments it will feel
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quite warm. that is how it is looking. —— in those sunny moments, it will feel quite warm. all week on breakfast, we've been checking in with the children in need rickshaw challenge team, as they make their way around the uk. and today is their final day. they make their way around the uk. so far, we've seen matt baker — along with young people who've been supported by bbc children in need—funded projects — as they set off from sunderland to durham on monday, then rode from warrington to wrexham on tuesday. on wednesday, they were in aberystwyth. yesterday it was birmingham to kenilworth, and today team rickshaw finish off the challenge in northamptonshire. breakfast�*s jayne mccubbin has been with them all week. jayne, are they ready for day five? how is the weather? the weather is erfect how is the weather? the weather is perfect this — how is the weather? the weather is perfect this morning. _ how is the weather? the weather is perfect this morning. rain - how is the weather? the weather is perfect this morning. rain was i perfect this morning. rain was forecast but it is holding. we are so pleased, aren't we? in a major u—turn in a crazy news cycle we are going to pause, take a moment and
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talk about people with talent, conviction, commitment. people who are pedalling far from conviction, commitment. people who are pedalling farfrom out conviction, commitment. people who are pedalling far from out of control and in unity, raising lots of money for children in need. monday is about alexander, tuesday when wednesday hi. this remarkable young lady has her blood condition called valour seamier and suffers from fatigue. yesterday she cycled for seven hours, doing phenomenally well. today we are going to tell you about tabatha. have a look at her story. this is tabitha. i have heard about a warrior face. a warriorface? you'll probably see it on the pitch later tonight. she definitely takes things by the horns. she might seem the mild—mannered young lady, but she does somewhat change. yeah, she can be pretty fierce
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when she wants to be. tabitha is 17 and lives in northampton with her two tiny dachshunds. but two years ago, her life was turned upside down. i was coming home from school, really tired, falling asleep for hours on end until dinner, and then i'd fall back asleep. my mum knew there was something wrong with me, but ijust thought i was doing a bit too much in year 11. in fact, that was the start of tabitha's cancer journey, after doctors found a tumour — a really big tumour. obviously, as a parent, it's one of the worst things you want to hear. people sometimes compare that it's an orange or it's a lemon, _ or it's a lime or it's a walnut. you know, those are the sort i of scales that they were using. this was outside of those scales. this was enormous. on world cancer day, tabitha shared her story. hi, guys.
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some of you may or may not know that i did get diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian dysgerminoma, which is a tumour that is cancerous off my ovaries. i have lost my hair as a result of chemo, but i have a wig, which looks like my old hair. my chemo is making me feel very sick, very tired, very lethargic, very unmotivated, very like bleurgh, is the way to put it, really. but straight after diagnosis, tabitha's warrior spirit kicked in. tabitha thought about this. she wiped away the tears from her eyes and a question popped up in her mind. "i've got a hockey match tomorrow. is it all right if i still play?" hockey kept tabitha going through the times when she could play and during the times when she couldn't. it was a children in need—funded charity called pasic. pasic supports children and young people with cancer in northampton. and today it's taking tabitha
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and her family to see the team and the players she loves. nice to meet you. i'm, like, star struck. i'm literally shaking. children in need help fund fun activities, like going to the rugby, having our parties, going to a theatre, playing crazy golf, whatever it might be, to get young people together to help get you out of the house. because it's tough when you've had an illness, isn't it? yeah. definitely. it's been able for me tojust kind of, like, meet other people, see that i wasn't alone and keep my smile on my face and keep happy and keep, like, going. it definitely gave me a lot more determination to keep going because there was other people out there like me, and i could go out and let my hair down and just forget about everything, even if it was only for an evening, and then i was back in hospital the next day. i can't believe that happened.
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yeah, i'm a bit mind blown, really. a bit speechless. tabitha is thankfully in remission, and now is facing a new challenge. rickshaw challenge! how do you feel? oh, i'm so excited. ijust can't wait to get on the bike now. northampton's not going to know what's hit them really. huge thanks to northampton saints for putting on that special day for tabatha. here is the head teacher. she is an amazing kid, isn't she? she is an amazing kid, isn't she? she has been an inspiration here. we met her 18 months ago. we were in the middle of the second lockdown. having treatment, about to go into that cycle. from that moment forward
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she has been a joy to know. she that cycle. from that moment forward she has been a joy to know.— she has been a 'oy to know. she has an amazing — she has been a joy to know. she has an amazing energv _ she has been a joy to know. she has an amazing energy and _ she has been a joy to know. she has an amazing energy and spirit i she has been a joy to know. she has an amazing energy and spirit and i she has been a joy to know. she has an amazing energy and spirit and it. an amazing energy and spirit and it is lovely to be around her. she brinus is lovely to be around her. she brings joy _ is lovely to be around her. she brings joy all _ is lovely to be around her. ’iie: bringsjoy all around is lovely to be around her. 5ie: bringsjoy all around the is lovely to be around her. 5“ie: brings joy all around the school. she always has a smile on her face, whether in the classroom or the hockey pitch. she is fair weather notebook telling us what to do as prefect. notebook telling us what to do as refect. ,, , ., ,, , ., prefect. she is great. she is going to relish this _ prefect. she is great. she is going to relish this challenge _ prefect. she is great. she is going to relish this challenge because i to relish this challenge because thatis to relish this challenge because that is what she loves to do, she loves a challenge. she that is what she loves to do, she loves a challenge.— that is what she loves to do, she loves a challenge. she is so up for this. she loves a challenge. she is so up for this- she has— loves a challenge. she is so up for this. she has been _ loves a challenge. she is so up for this. she has been getting i loves a challenge. she is so up for this. she has been getting us i loves a challenge. she is so up for this. she has been getting us all l this. she has been getting us all involved. kids are going to be so up for it. kids will be making signs and cheering. tabatha draws people around her. i do not know what it will be like cycling all day. i around her. i do not know what it will be like cycling all day.- will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not _ will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not rain _ will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not rain for— will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not rain for her. - will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not rain for her. it i will be like cycling all day. i hope it does not rain for her. it not i it does not rain for her. it not rain. ~' it does not rain for her. it not rain. ~ , .. . rain. something like this cancer diaunosis rain. something like this cancer diagnosis does _ rain. something like this cancer diagnosis does not _ rain. something like this cancer diagnosis does not happen i rain. something like this cancer diagnosis does not happen to i rain. something like this cancer- diagnosis does not happen to often in a school. to happen in lockdown
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during a crazy time is really hard for her, wasn't it? the charity, pasic, that gave her all these lovely treats, so important, i imagine. we do what we can. spending a normal life in school because of the work these people do and through charities like this is amazing. fine charities like this is amazing. one thin the charities like this is amazing. one thing the charity _ charities like this is amazing. one thing the charity said to us in a much longer interview, their parents, when they have a child with cancer have to focus on the basics of life. they cannot take time to think about the fun stuff. they had to fire fight their way through every day, treatment and hospital appointments and schoolwork. pasic is in the background to do the fun stuff, the trip to northampton
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saints red beet halls —— rugby club. they are fighting for life and for pasic to come along and focus on what is important is really good. aha, what is important is really good. a cast of thousands is expected. all the cast of thousands is expected. fill the kids, we're all going be waving. you go and get banned. i want to say one thing, when i spoke to tabitha's dad, he made this very important point about children in need, and it is this. children in need supports the little local charities up and down the country you do not know exist until you need ban. he said, i hope people out there never need them, i hope they do not. if they do they should have confidence they exist and are at the hand are funded even unused really difficult times, funded because of the generosity of people like you at home. all i will
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say before i hand back is this, go on to the children in need website, look at the brilliant stuff they are doing can i get onto the tracker and follow tabitha's route today. if you are in this area, she needs all the support she can get, get onto the street to support her and find out ways you can donate as well. if you'd like to support team rickshaw's efforts and donate to bbc children in need, here's how you can do it.
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time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. businesses across london and the south east have been reacting to liz truss stepping down as prime minister and are calling for the next leader to help put them on a path to growth. some say they've struggled due to the uncertainty in recent weeks in westminster and want more support. tony montalbano runs a vegetable growing firm in essex and now fears he could lose it due to rising energy bills. i've always known the nursery being full of queues, always in production. it's sad to see a nursery like this. i could just lose the whole business if things don't go to plan. and you can see more on tony's story on we are england on bbc one at 7.30 or on the iplayer.
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all this week we've been looking at how difficult it is to find a place to live in the capital. a new scheme where homes are built exclusively for renters is being tipped as one way to help. it's in wembley and has now housed over 3,500 tenants, with 700 more flats being built in the next two years. you move in, you're on a contract and that's it, which is great. i know a lot of my friends... i was speaking to someone recently, who is renting from a private landlord and their rent has gone up by 40%, so they have to move out. here i know i'm safe and comfortable. tickets for london's new year's eve fireworks display go on sale today. more than 100,000 are available from midday and they cost £15. the mayor's office says they've gone up due to the increase in costs across the events industry. travel now and this is how the tubes are looking at the moment. there's a good service on all lines this morning. and for all the latest travel news where you are tune into your bbc local radio
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station for regular updates throughout the morning. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. fewer showers around today compared to yesterday's very heavy ones yesterday morning. a little bit misty first thing this morning but that should lift. some sunshine. a few showers to start with but then heavier showers likely towards the end of the afternoon, and in those sharper showers, you might get a rumble of thunder. it is going to be breezy and blustery today. temperatures again mild at 19 celsius. now overnight, we'll still get these blustery showers moving through through the evening, but then, post midnight, it will start to dry out. we'll see clearer skies. the minimum temperature again double figures. it's going to be mild. 11-13. for saturday, it is looking like a largely dry start. still could see one or two showers but certainly fewer than today and from yesterday, and it is going to still be quite breezy. temperature—wise, though, because we have the sunshine tomorrow, it is going to feel very mild. more cloud for the afternoon moving in and temperatures reaching around 18 celsius. it is a more unsettled day for sunday.
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that low—pressure front heading towards us, we are going to see some heavier showers, so those showers potentially producing rumbles of thunder. quite a breezy day, as well, as we head towards the end of the weekend and staying unsettled yet mild into next week. you'll find more stories on our website and social media, including the charity in south london that was given a masterclass by hollywood stunt riders. that's it. i'm back in around half an hour. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty here in downing street, after the resignation of the uk's shortest serving prime minister, and charlie stayt in the studio in salford. our headlines today. the uk will have a new prime minister in place by next friday, after liz truss quit yesterday, barely six weeks into the job. many familar faces are being touted
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as possible replacements, including the ex—prime minister borisjohnson. we'll have reaction throughout the morning here in westminster. fears that patients are being put at risk and unable to get the help they need because of a "gridlocked" health and care system. we'll speak to the parents of teenager harry dunn after their three—year battle for justice which yesterday saw an american woman plead guilty to causing his death by careless driving. aston villa are looking for a new manager after sacking steven gerrard. he lost his job just over an hour after villa's defeat at fulham last night, with the club 17th in the premier league. and it's the final day for the children in need rickshaw challenge team. we'll be with them as they set off on the last leg of the journey. they'll have a dry day than yesterday. not as much rain around today but there will be some heavy and thundery showers but details on
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that end your weekend forecast coming up on your friday morning serving of breakfast. it's friday 21st october and i'm outside number 10 downing street. liz truss moved into this famous building when she became prime ministerjust six weeks ago. by the end of next week at the latest she'll be gone, making her the shortest serving prime minister in british history. she tendered her resignation to king charles ii! yesterday after a premiership marred by financial turmoil, a series of humiliating u—turns and key ministerial sackings, and a day of chaos in parliament in which party discipline fell apart. on today's breakfast we'll be looking at what went wrong for liz truss and how the next incumbent of number ten will be selected by a week today. we'll be speaking to some of the mps backing the frontrunners, and to opposition parties and politicaljournalists here in westminster. we'll also bring you reaction from voters and businesses around the uk. first, our political correspondent
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ione wells reports on yet another historic and remarkable day in british politics. the shortest—serving prime minister in british history. her position unsalvageable. we set out a vision for a low—tax, high—growth economy that would take advantage of the freedoms of brexit. i recognise, though, given the situation, i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. i therefore have spoken to his majesty the king to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party. so attention now turns to who will replace her. tory mps have until 2pm on monday to nominate a new leader. they will need 100 nominations to make it onto the ballot. that means a maximum of three tory mps could make the cut. if only one gets 100 nominations from colleagues, they will automatically become leader.
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if there's more than one there'll be an mps vote, and then tory members will pick between the final two in an online vote, with the whole thing done by 28th october. so, who are tory mps talking up for the top spot here? no mps have officially said they will run yet, but rishi sunak, who came second in the summer, is someone a lot of mps have already come out in support of. cabinet ministers penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch, who ran for the leadership this summer, are also being mentioned by some tory mps. as is suella braverman, who resigned just this week as home secretary. and then there's this man, the former prime minister boris johnson, forced to resignjust months ago after mass resignations from his own government. hasta la vista, baby. add a series of scandals over downing street parties, and revelations that he knew about sexual misconduct allegations involving one of his senior government colleagues. some tory mps said they'd consider resigning as a conservative mp if he was elected again.
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others are now calling for him to return. conservative sources say the business secretary jacob rees—mogg has encouraged colleagues to back him. and other mps have said he is the only person with a mandate from the general public in an election. opposition parties, though, think it's time for a new election now. i really don't think another revolving door of chaos, another experiment at the top of the tory party, is the way out of this. what needs to happen now? well, on a uk level, there must be a general election. it is a democratic necessity. we don't need another- conservative prime minister. they need to go. we need another general election. let me just get a show of hands. it's not scientific, but it's just to get an idea. who here would like a general election? an election is something tory mps will want to avoid, with the polls looking bad for them. the immediate race is to see which of them can get the support of 100 colleagues over the weekend to have a shot at that top job. ione wells, bbc news.
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you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to him you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to him in you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to him in a you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to him in a short you saw in that report ed davey leader of the liberal democrats, i will talk to him in a short while. let's get more from our political correspondent helen catt. 2022, the year of three prime ministers. how does that sound? if you would have seen that at the start of the year in the next one in place in just start of the year in the next one in place injust a start of the year in the next one in place in just a week's time, it seems pretty incredible, doesn't it? at the end of the week when we had to home secretary, to chancellors, the pace of turnover is just nothing like i'd ever seen before. it the pace of turnover isjust nothing like i'd ever seen before.— like i'd ever seen before. it comes down to stability. _ like i'd ever seen before. it comes down to stability. people - like i'd ever seen before. it comes down to stability. people just i like i'd ever seen before. it comes| down to stability. people just want stability which they haven't had from this government this year. yes. from this government this year. yes, it is of course — from this government this year. yes, it is of course the _ from this government this year. yes, it is of course the thing, _ from this government this year. yes, it is of course the thing, if— from this government this year. ies it is of course the thing, if you think back to whatjeremy hunt to the chancellor said early in the week, he said it is the key thing, getting stability, a period when everything can get back a little bit more to normal, to allow things to come down. more to normal, to allow things to come down-— come down. before that period of ho eful come down. before that period of hopeful stability, _ come down. before that period of hopeful stability, we _ come down. before that period of hopeful stability, we have i hopeful stability, we have speculation. look at all the papers,
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see who's in the running, so far. we haven't had any declarations yet but the rumours are rife and we saw borisjohnson there, in parliament, another quote he said referring to a roman dictator. let's have a listen to that. ~' . ., , ., to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning _ to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning to — to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my _ to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my plough. i to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my plough. and l to that. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my plough. and i | to that. like cincinnatus, i am i returning to my plough. and i will be offering this government nothing but the _ be offering this government nothing but the most fervent support. cincinnatus, there's a name we are now familiar with.— now familiar with. yes, he was a roman statesman _ now familiar with. yes, he was a roman statesman who - now familiar with. yes, he was a roman statesman who famouslyj now familiar with. yes, he was a i roman statesman who famously went back to his farm after he served rome and the key thing was he came back to serve again when called upon and so, at the time, that the scene is perhaps a hint borisjohnson might be up for another tilt at coming back here. now we've got all this speculation the papers this morning. there were certainly some of his supporters in parliament pushing for this, trying to get people to back borisjohnson to come back. their argument is because he was leading the conservatives when
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they won a 2019 general election and therefore he has a mandate from the public but there are clearly a lot of problems with that. if you're looking for stability. not least the reason is no longer prime minister is because he's lost the backing of his parliamentary party so the thought they could now put him back in and it would be like none of this ever happened, i think it's quite difficult. �* ., ever happened, i think it's quite difficult. ., , ., difficult. and of course we are auoin difficult. and of course we are oaian to difficult. and of course we are going to be — difficult. and of course we are going to be talking _ difficult. and of course we are going to be talking about i difficult. and of course we are l going to be talking about those machinations, how it all going to work, in the next few days. helen, thanks very much. we're bringing you reaction to liz truss' resignation throughout breakfast this morning from business owners, from voters across the uk and from politicians of all stripes. sir ed davey is the leader of the liberal democrats and hejoins me now from our westminster studio. good morning. your thoughts now? we know the process. what should happen next? liz know the process. what should happen next? , , ., , �* , next? liz truss trashed the british economy with _ next? liz truss trashed the british economy with unfunded _ next? liz truss trashed the british economy with unfunded tax i next? liz truss trashed the british economy with unfunded tax cuts i next? liz truss trashed the british i economy with unfunded tax cuts and before her, we had borisjohnson, who failed our country with his lies
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and lawbreaking, and i think the conservative party have shown they are unfit to govern our great country. we don't need another conservative prime minister lurching from crisis to crisis. we need to get rid of them. and that has to mean a general election. i think that's what should happen and it could give us a fresh start and i think the conservative mps now need to do there patriotically to and work with the opposition parties to get that general election so the british people can have their say. the likelihood of that happening is practically nil, so why would the conservatives come and you need to conservatives, to call a general election, why would they if they are so likely to lose? i election, why would they if they are so likely to lose?— so likely to lose? i hope some of them are looking _ so likely to lose? i hope some of them are looking in _ so likely to lose? i hope some of them are looking in the - so likely to lose? i hope some of them are looking in the mirror i so likely to lose? i hope some of i them are looking in the mirror and recognising that the conservatives have failed our country. i think some of them may be talking to their constituents, clearly a lot of people do want a general election. and then hopefully they will do the right thing. you are right, maybe they won't, probably they won't,
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they won't, probably they won't, they will probably try to cling onto power, but i worry about the millions of families who are struggling out there, pensioners, tens of thousands of businesses, who really want political stability so they can get the policies and get on with their lives. at the moment, the conservatives are the blockage to that because they are so divided and that's why i think a general election is the right thing to do, to give us a new government, political stability, so we can tackle the problems facing our country. tackle the problems facing our count . ,., , ., tackle the problems facing our count . i. ., �* tackle the problems facing our count . y., ., �* “ tackle the problems facing our count . ., �* ~ �*, country. ok, so you don't think it's likel the country. ok, so you don't think it's likely the conservatives _ country. ok, so you don't think it's likely the conservatives will i country. ok, so you don't think it's likely the conservatives will call i country. ok, so you don't think it's likely the conservatives will call a i likely the conservatives will call a general election, yet are you still preparing for one and if so, what would be your priority? we preparing for one and if so, what would be your priority?— would be your priority? we are absolutely _ would be your priority? we are absolutely preparing _ would be your priority? we are absolutely preparing for i would be your priority? we are absolutely preparing for one. i would be your priority? we are i absolutely preparing for one. the last 16 months, we've had three by—elections with the lib dems beat the conservatives in true blue seats. last may, the local elections across the uk, the lib dems performed better than any other
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political party, so we are ready for the elections. in terms of our pitch, we have to deal with the cost of living crisis. you pitch, we have to deal with the cost of living crisis.— of living crisis. you performed well from a low — of living crisis. you performed well from a low base, _ of living crisis. you performed well from a low base, though, - of living crisis. you performed well from a low base, though, didn't i of living crisis. you performed well i from a low base, though, didn't you? we won those elections. and so that was a pretty startling result. and what i would say in terms of our agenda, if there was a general election, a year ago, the lib dems advocated a windfall tax on the record profits of oil and gas companies. we were the first party to do that. and we believe you can get tens of billions of pounds from the profits, it only comes from president putin killing innocent ukrainians it's morally right to get that money and use it in a fair way to help millions of people who are struggling with high energy bills and help businesses struggling with energy costs. that is a real opportunity, difference from the conservative party. they seem to be favouring the oil and gas companies and the bankers, where this tens of billions of pounds which could be used in a responsible way so we
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didn't have to borrow and put up people's mortgages. that seems, to me, the right approach when you've got this crisis facing people. in the absence of a general election being declared, who would you like to see as leader of the conservative party? who do you think in the absence of a general election, would offer stability because that's what the electorate once at this moment in time? �* ., ., the electorate once at this moment in time? �* . ., ., ., in time? i'm afraid none of them can, in time? i'm afraid none of them can. that's _ in time? i'm afraid none of them can. that's the — in time? i'm afraid none of them can, that's the sad _ in time? i'm afraid none of them can, that's the sad truth, i in time? i'm afraid none of them can, that's the sad truth, and i in time? i'm afraid none of them | can, that's the sad truth, and the reason for that is clear. they are so divided. you've heard tory mp saying it borisjohnson comes back they will resign from the party or defect to other parties. you fit other people saying he's the only person for the tories and they are so divided. i don't think we've ever seenin so divided. i don't think we've ever seen in modern british politics a political party like the conservatives, damage our economy so much, and... conservatives, damage our economy so much, and---_ much, and... sorry to interrupt, there is speculation _ much, and... sorry to interrupt, there is speculation that i much, and... sorry to interrupt, there is speculation that if i much, and... sorry to interrupt, there is speculation that if rishi | there is speculation that if rishi sunak and penny mordaunt are the frontrunners, whoever is in the lead
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they eventually could be a coalition of ideas which could bring stability. would that be acceptable to you? stability. would that be acceptable to ou? ~ ., , , stability. would that be acceptable to ou? ~ , stability. would that be acceptable to ou? , to you? well, i hope they can bring some political— to you? well, i hope they can bring some political stability _ to you? well, i hope they can bring some political stability because i to you? well, i hope they can bring some political stability because sol some political stability because so many people are suffering out there because of the chaos and, excuse me forjust being a bit realistic, the shambolic nature of the modern conservative party doesn't give me any faith in them, so they may try and stitch something up but ijust don't think it will last because i don't think it will last because i don't think it will last because i don't think it's built on solid ideas, and a solid vision for our future. the lib dems want a fairer, greener, more caring country, and re—centre our policies to do that and when people hear them in by—elections and local elections, they actually come to us. we've seen lifelong conservatives switching to the liberal democrats because they think the conservative party is taking them for granted, it's out of touch, and they like what we are saying, so i think it's time for a
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fresh start and i think the lib dems can offer a real positive alternative policy. ed can offer a real positive alternative policy. can offer a real positive alternative -oli . , ., alternative policy. ed davey, leader ofthe alternative policy. ed davey, leader of the liberal _ alternative policy. ed davey, leader of the liberal democrats, _ alternative policy. ed davey, leader of the liberal democrats, thank i alternative policy. ed davey, leader| of the liberal democrats, thank you very much for your time with us. good morning to you. it's a little chilly here, the gloves are on, but it's not too bad. the sun is coming up it's not too bad. the sun is coming up soon. exactly and for this stage in october it's not too bad out there, quite i'll start. good morning to you all. i thoroughly wet day yesterday for some of you but today not quite as wet but do not leave home without an umbrella because there will be showers around and to begin with, if you are commuting across eastern england, some dense patches of fog which will play in a short while. this is a radar picture. the heaviest rain, lively downpours pushing for lincolnshire towards south yorkshire right now. showers elsewhere to the south and west. this area of cloud, patchy rain, takes us to central and northern scotland rush hour. this is the heavy rain we saw yesterday but it's lighter and patchy and makes for a
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great start across much of scotland. brightening up in southern scotland, brightness in northern ireland but some showers developing here. showers particular across central and western parts of england and wales. one or two further east. many will get through the commute, largely dry, but this i was becoming livelier towards the south and west and the wind is picking up through today. they will reach gale force at times, especially around the coast. schama is possiblejust about anywhere but fewer across eastern england, parts of central and southern scotland, through the afternoon, and wherever you are, temperatures above where we normally expect for this stage in october so another relatively mild day. through tonight, further showers on the go. still some rumbles of thunder, flashes of lightning but becoming drier from the south into tomorrow morning. a mile start to the weekend, saturday overall, the drier of the two days but i got more details and all of that in half and hours' time. see you then. thank you very much. let's bring you up—to—date with other stories this morning.
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the health and care system in england has been described by regulators as "gridlocked", with patients at risk because they can't get the assistance they need. the care quality commission says more than half of patients are unable to leave hospital when they are ready because of a lack of support in the community. nhs england say extra support is being provided to keep patients out of hospital, including the rollout of rapid—response teams. the uk's financial watchdog is warning that millions more people are struggling to pay their bills, compared to two years ago. the financial conduct authority surveyed 19,000 households at the start of this year before the latest increases in fuel and energy prices. it found that nearly eight million people are finding their bills "a heavy burden". that's up from just over five million people in 2020. iranian experts are helping russian troops to carry out drone attacks on ukraine, according to the white house. us intelligence says a relatively small number of iranians are based in russian—occupied crimea, where they are providing training and technical support.
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the uk has announced sanctions on iranian businesses and individuals responsible for supplying the drones, which have hit critical infrastructure around ukraine in recent days. let's return now to a story we've been following on breakfast for more than three years — the death of harry dunn. he was knocked off his motorbike by a driver, anne sacoolas, who was on the wrong side of the road but holding her to account was far from straightforward. yesterday she finally took responsibility for that crash, pleading guilty to causing death by careless driving. harry's mum and dad will be on the sofa shortly but first, graham satchell reports on the family's fight forjustice. a hotel in central london at the end of september. inside, harry dunn's extended family and friends. i didn't sleep at all last night. it's just three years has built up to this day,
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this day that this lady is going to hopefully take responsibility. so it's quite a big thing and it's, you know, fingers crossed. yeah, i should be ok. you know, i didn't get to the hospital in time to say goodbye to harry, but i damn well promised him that i would get him justice. and three years on, and we're nearly there and i'm hoping to be able to look up to the sky and tell him that we've done it. the dunn family have fought a hard campaign forjustice. they've taken on the most powerful people and institutions in the world — presidents, prime ministers, intelligence agencies. wearing the green colours of harry's bike, they are about to see the woman accused of causing the death of their son finally face criminal proceedings. it is a remarkable conclusion to a long fight.
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harry dunn died in 2019. his spare biking gear is still where he left it three years on — a source of comfort for his mum, charlotte. the pain that you're left with every moment of every day, 24/7, is always there, so you can never not realise he's gone. we definitely know he's gone. harry was just 19 when his bike was hit head on by a car driving on the wrong side of the road. the crash happened less than a mile from a secret american intelligence base — raf croughton in northamptonshire. the driver anne sacoolas had previously worked for the cia. she claimed diplomatic immunity because her husband also worked for us intelligence. a few weeks after the crash, she left the country. what do we want? justice! harry's family have never accepted
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that someone can be involved in something so serious and just walk away. they went to washington, met president trump. it was very sad, to be honest. he lost and they lost their son. i believe it was going down the wrong way because that happens in europe. you go to europe and the roads are opposite. donald trump refused to send anne sacoolas back. the family started to discover other cases. astonishing, isnt it? a care with american diplomatic plates driving on the wrong side of the road near raf croughton. they gathered evidence of crashes outside american air bases involving death or serious injury going back more than 50 years. and, slowly, things started moving their way. anne sacoolas was charged with causing death by dangerous driving. diplomatic immunity rules were changed. american personnel on bases in the uk are now
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given driver training. and the most important breakthrough — discussions between a prime minister and a new president, joe biden, which led to anne sacoolas facing trial. she appeared at westminster magistrates' court three weeks ago via a video link from america, the culmination of a hard fought campaign. back at the hotel after the hearing, the room was filled with an uneasy mix. tears ofjoy, relief and sadness. does it feel like a victory today? 100% for me, it does feel like a victory. it feels like the last three years of heartache, tears and battling and triumphs and joys and other stuff. and we've done it. we've actually got the ball rolling and had our first day in court. so this is it. we're on our way to getting the true justice for our boy.
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yeah, we can celebrate harry now and try to move forward. we're not really ever going to be able to move on, but we can certainly move forward and we canjust hand the baton over to the courts and let them do theirjob. yesterday, harry's family were back in court at the old bailey, where anne sacoolas pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving. she'll be sentenced next month. the dunn family have persevered against all odds, overcome the greatest of obstacles to getjustice for their boy. graham satchell, bbc news. harry's mum charlotte and dad tim join me now, along with the family spokesman, radd seiger. good morning to all of you. there was a moment there, a little hand—held between the two of you, charlotte, do you just want to help people with the scene in court
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yesterday? this is the moment you've been fighting for for so long. anne sacoolas is on a video link. and there is a moment in time. can you tell us what that was like exactly what was said and what happened and your reaction?— your reaction? yeah, it was really auite your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal- _ your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal. you _ your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal. you had _ your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal. you had to - your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal. you had to try i your reaction? yeah, it was really quite surreal. you had to try to i quite surreal. you had to try to keep yourself in a moment of actually where you were. the largest courtroom, number one in the old bailey, we really didn't have a feel before we walked in of what it was like. none of us have ever been in there before. thankfully, this time round, unlike the magistrates, the live link was already on the tv so we could immediately see her lawyer, so we knew there wasn't going to be a delay like that was a few weeks ago and then anne was on screen so we started to relax a little bit at that point, knowing that the appearance was happening. i held
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nile very hard on one side, harry's twin, and my husband on the other, and we were breathing as deep as we possibly could, just to desperately wait for that guilty plea. it was still a sense of shock that hits you when you hear it. relief. it's a good thing, i was sat down. i honestly think my legs would have just gone from under me. otherwise, it was what we had been fighting for for three very, very long, painful years. and finally, finally, we got it. ., ., , ., years. and finally, finally, we got it. ., ., ., years. and finally, finally, we got it. various that moment in as you sa , it. various that moment in as you say. peeple _ it. various that moment in as you say. peeple are — it. various that moment in as you say, people are not _ it. various that moment in as you say, people are not familiar- it. various that moment in as you say, people are not familiar with | say, people are not familiar with court proceedings now, very sadly, but there is a moment when you see the person who admits responsibility for the death of your son say it and say it out loud and you can see her.
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how was that for you? like charlotte sa s, it how was that for you? like charlotte says. it was — how was that for you? like charlotte says, it was disbelief _ how was that for you? like charlotte says, it was disbelief from _ how was that for you? like charlotte says, it was disbelief from me - how was that for you? like charlotte says, it was disbelief from me i - says, it was disbelief from me i think_ says, it was disbelief from me i think because, as you know, three years— think because, as you know, three years is_ think because, as you know, three years is a — think because, as you know, three years is a long time, and even though— years is a long time, and even though you know you shouldn't come even then_ though you know you shouldn't come even then we had doubts, and fortunately she said not guilty and then changed to guilty, i don't know. — then changed to guilty, i don't know, panicked, ithink. she missmke. — know, panicked, ithink. she misspoke, didn't _ know, panicked, ithink. me misspoke, didn't she? i know, panicked, ithink. sis: misspoke, didn't she? i think all of you for a moment... 50 misspoke, didn't she? i think all of you for a moment. . ._ misspoke, didn't she? i think all of you for a moment... so that was, you know, you for a moment... so that was, you know. quite — you for a moment... so that was, you know. quite a — you for a moment... so that was, you know, quite a moment, _ you for a moment... so that was, you know, quite a moment, but _ you for a moment... so that was, you know, quite a moment, but then - you for a moment... so that was, you know, quite a moment, but then like| know, quite a moment, but then like charlotte _ know, quite a moment, but then like charlotte said, i don't know, it was like a _ charlotte said, i don't know, it was like a big _ charlotte said, i don't know, it was like a big weight had lifted to hear her say— like a big weight had lifted to hear her say it— like a big weight had lifted to hear her say it and to see her say it. it was _ her say it and to see her say it. it was like — her say it and to see her say it. it was like the _ her say it and to see her say it. it was like the three years under pressure — was like the three years under pressure which had built slowly ebbed — pressure which had built slowly ebbed away. i felt my shoulder sort of relax _ ebbed away. i felt my shoulder sort of relax. and i held my wife's hand.
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one of— of relax. and i held my wife's hand. one of the — of relax. and i held my wife's hand. one of the most beautiful best times in my— one of the most beautiful best times in my life. _ one of the most beautiful best times in my life. i— one of the most beautiful best times in my life, i think. this one of the most beautiful best times in my life, i think.— one of the most beautiful best times in my life, ithink.— in my life, i think. this is only yesterday _ in my life, i think. this is only yesterday that _ in my life, i think. this is only yesterday that this _ in my life, i think. this is only yesterday that this happened. in my life, i think. this is only i yesterday that this happened. all in my life, i think. this is only - yesterday that this happened. all my questions now will seem too soon, but is it the first chance you have had, and getting out impression from you, where you have had a chance to maybe think about harry as you would like to have done, without all of this surrounding it? i’m like to have done, without all of this surrounding it?— this surrounding it? i'm getting there. ithink— this surrounding it? i'm getting there. i think it's _ this surrounding it? i'm getting there. i think it's going - this surrounding it? i'm getting there. i think it's going to - this surrounding it? i'm getting there. i think it's going to take| this surrounding it? i'm gettingl there. i think it's going to take a little while to really register with me what has happened. we are all very tired. it's been a long fight, but definitely i think over the coming weeks between now and sentencing, we'll definitely be able to start to reflect a little bit and start to really grab hold and grasp how monumental it is to us. although we can feel it, it's actually getting it to register, everything that we've been through, from day
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one. the less than i% that we've been through, from day one. the less than 1% chance of getting a conviction. and us can immediately come as a family, saying no, we are not having that. it takes you back to that day and then the last three years have just been nonstop. thankfully, for us, covid didn't really slow down our campaign. there's nothing we got covid to for but we work thankfully were able to work behind—the—scenes and we got a lot to be happy about. we have shown pictures of harry this morning and these are the pictures we all come as outsiders, have seen. we checked with you before about showing them this morning while you are here with us. and you get comfort seeing his picture now. along the lines of what i was asking charlotte about, are you able to think differently this morning? as you woke up this morning, where you able to think differently? yes. you woke up this morning, where you able to think differently?— able to think differently? yes, i think i can- _ able to think differently? yes, i thinki can. i've _ able to think differently? yes, i think i can. i've always- able to think differently? yes, i think i can. i've always loved i think i can. i've always loved looking — think i can. i've always loved looking at— think i can. i've always loved looking at photos of harry anyway.
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it's looking at photos of harry anyway. it's been _ looking at photos of harry anyway. it's been my sort of go to thing to do when — it's been my sort of go to thing to do when i'rn — it's been my sort of go to thing to do when i'm feeling low and down, so i do when i'm feeling low and down, so i would _ do when i'm feeling low and down, so i would look— do when i'm feeling low and down, so i would look at harry. i got pictures— i would look at harry. i got pictures of him all around the house. — pictures of him all around the house, you can't not. but i've always _ house, you can't not. but i've always had — house, you can't not. but i've always had so much love for my son that wherr— always had so much love for my son that when i— always had so much love for my son that when i look at him itjust brings— that when i look at him itjust bringsjoy— that when i look at him itjust bringsjoy to me because i remember him as— bringsjoy to me because i remember him as a _ bringsjoy to me because i remember him as a fun — bringsjoy to me because i remember him as a fun loving guy, just starting _ him as a fun loving guy, just starting out in life, and after these — starting out in life, and after these three years now, you can look at him _ these three years now, you can look at him and _ these three years now, you can look at him and think, harry, we have done _ at him and think, harry, we have done what — at him and think, harry, we have done what mum said, we've done it, and how— done what mum said, we've done it, and now you — done what mum said, we've done it, and now you can move on. we've done everything _ and now you can move on. we've done everything we — and now you can move on. we've done everything we could for him. so and now you can move on. we've done everything we could for him.— everything we could for him. so many --eole everything we could for him. so many peeple have — everything we could for him. so many peeple have so _ everything we could for him. so many people have so much _ everything we could for him. so many people have so much respect - everything we could for him. so many people have so much respect for i everything we could for him. so many people have so much respect for this| people have so much respect for this family and what they've done and you have been with them all along the way. in terms of the technicals now, we've got an admission of guilt. what is the process from here on in? first of all, charlie, can i take this— first of all, charlie, can i take this opportunity— first of all, charlie, can i take this opportunity to _ first of all, charlie, can i take this opportunity to pay - first of all, charlie, can i takej this opportunity to pay tribute first of all, charlie, can i take i this opportunity to pay tribute to these _ this opportunity to pay tribute to these gorgeous— this opportunity to pay tribute to these gorgeous people. -
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this opportunity to pay tribute to these gorgeous people. they- this opportunity to pay tribute to| these gorgeous people. they are this opportunity to pay tribute to i these gorgeous people. they are so brave _ these gorgeous people. they are so brave they— these gorgeous people. they are so brave. they underplayed _ these gorgeous people. they are so brave. they underplayed yesterdayl brave. they underplayed yesterday completely — brave. they underplayed yesterday completely it _ brave. they underplayed yesterday completely. it was _ brave. they underplayed yesterday completely. it was a _ brave. they underplayed yesterday completely. it was a dramatic i completely. it was a dramatic moment, _ completely. it was a dramatic moment, audible _ completely. it was a dramatic moment, audible gasps - completely. it was a dramatic - moment, audible gasps throughout the court, _ moment, audible gasps throughout the court. with— moment, audible gasps throughout the court. with the — moment, audible gasps throughout the court, with the lawyers, _ moment, audible gasps throughout the court, with the lawyers, and _ moment, audible gasps throughout the court, with the lawyers, and the - court, with the lawyers, and the public— court, with the lawyers, and the public gallery. _ court, with the lawyers, and the public gallery, and _ court, with the lawyers, and the public gallery, and it _ court, with the lawyers, and the public gallery, and it will - court, with the lawyers, and the public gallery, and it will go i court, with the lawyers, and the i public gallery, and it will go down in history. — public gallery, and it will go down in history, that _ public gallery, and it will go down in history, that moment- public gallery, and it will go down. in history, that moment yesterday, when _ in history, that moment yesterday, when she _ in history, that moment yesterday, when she pleaded _ in history, that moment yesterday, when she pleaded guilty. _ in history, that moment yesterday, when she pleaded guilty. so- in history, that moment yesterday, when she pleaded guilty. so what. in history, that moment yesterday, | when she pleaded guilty. so what is to come _ when she pleaded guilty. so what is to come is— when she pleaded guilty. so what is to come is the — when she pleaded guilty. so what is to come is the sentencing _ when she pleaded guilty. so what is to come is the sentencing hearing, i to come is the sentencing hearing, so she _ to come is the sentencing hearing, so she pleaded _ to come is the sentencing hearing, so she pleaded guilty— to come is the sentencing hearing, so she pleaded guilty to _ to come is the sentencing hearing, so she pleaded guilty to a - to come is the sentencing hearing, so she pleaded guilty to a serious. so she pleaded guilty to a serious criminal— so she pleaded guilty to a serious criminal charge _ so she pleaded guilty to a serious criminal charge yesterday. - so she pleaded guilty to a serious criminal charge yesterday. and i so she pleaded guilty to a serious. criminal charge yesterday. and the judge _ criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has— criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has asked _ criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has asked her— criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has asked her to— criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has asked her to come - criminal charge yesterday. and the judge has asked her to come backl judge has asked her to come back physically— judge has asked her to come back physically for— judge has asked her to come back physically for the _ judge has asked her to come back physically for the next _ judge has asked her to come back physically for the next hearing i physically for the next hearing which — physically for the next hearing which will _ physically for the next hearing which will be _ physically for the next hearing which will be in _ physically for the next hearing which will be in the _ physically for the next hearing which will be in the week- physically for the next hearing i which will be in the week beginning 28th november. _ which will be in the week beginning 28th november. so _ which will be in the week beginning 28th november. so we _ which will be in the week beginning 28th november. so we very- which will be in the week beginning 28th november. so we very much i which will be in the week beginning i 28th november. so we very much hope that she _ 28th november. so we very much hope that she comes— 28th november. so we very much hope that she comes back— 28th november. so we very much hope that she comes back physically. - 28th november. so we very much hope that she comes back physically. we i that she comes back physically. we would _ that she comes back physically. we would urge — that she comes back physically. we would urge her— that she comes back physically. we would urge her to _ that she comes back physically. we would urge her to do _ that she comes back physically. we would urge her to do that— that she comes back physically. we would urge her to do that for- that she comes back physically. we would urge her to do that for her. would urge her to do that for her sake _ would urge her to do that for her sake as— would urge her to do that for her sake as well— would urge her to do that for her sake as well as _ would urge her to do that for her sake as well as our— would urge her to do that for her sake as well as our sake, - would urge her to do that for her sake as well as our sake, so i would urge her to do that for her| sake as well as our sake, so both families— sake as well as our sake, so both families who _ sake as well as our sake, so both families who have _ sake as well as our sake, so both families who have been - sake as well as our sake, so both families who have been through. sake as well as our sake, so both. families who have been through this tragedy, _ families who have been through this tragedy, and — families who have been through this tragedy, and she _ families who have been through this tragedy, and she is— families who have been through this tragedy, and she is a _ families who have been through this tragedy, and she is a victim - families who have been through this tragedy, and she is a victim as- tragedy, and she is a victim as well, — tragedy, and she is a victim as well, we — tragedy, and she is a victim as well, we recognise _ tragedy, and she is a victim as well, we recognise that, - tragedy, and she is a victim as well, we recognise that, can. tragedy, and she is a victim as. well, we recognise that, can then take steps— well, we recognise that, can then take steps forward. _ well, we recognise that, can then take steps forward. so _ well, we recognise that, can then take steps forward. so the - well, we recognise that, can then take steps forward. so the next l well, we recognise that, can then i take steps forward. so the next step is a sentencing — take steps forward. so the next step is a sentencing hearing. _ take steps forward. so the next step is a sentencing hearing.— is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, ou will is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell— is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell me _ is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell me if _ is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell me if this _ is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell me if this is _ is a sentencing hearing. charlotte, you will tell me if this is the i
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you will tell me if this is the case, you have always said it's not about seeking to separate anne sacoolas from her own family. she's got children of her own. and i think you have restated that even now that she has admitted responsibility that that has never been your intention. it was about getting this to a court and having her answerfor it was about getting this to a court and having her answer for what it was about getting this to a court and having her answerfor what did happen. and having her answer for what did ha en. , and having her answer for what did hauen. , , and having her answer for what did ha..en_ , , ~ and having her answer for what did ha--en. , , . happen. yes, absolutely. we said from day one. _ happen. yes, absolutely. we said from day one, before _ happen. yes, absolutely. we said from day one, before we - happen. yes, absolutely. we said from day one, before we knew. happen. yes, absolutely. we said | from day one, before we knew she happen. yes, absolutely. we said i from day one, before we knew she had left the country, we where working with a northamptonshire police right from day one. we didn't wish to go to the media originally. and we said, look, we understand she is a mother of three, we also understand two were in the car. the crash was horrific. i can't imagine what her children saw. and it was never our intention to separate her from her children at all. you know, it is not
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theirfault, none of children at all. you know, it is not their fault, none of this children at all. you know, it is not theirfault, none of this is children at all. you know, it is not their fault, none of this is their fault. but when the person that should have been held accountable then leaves the country, the first thing we did was get on a plane and go over and plead with her to come back. so, for me, yesterday, when thejudge back. so, for me, yesterday, when the judge shocked us all really by saying that she wants her to come back and to show the remorse that maybe she should have done a few years ago, was a bit of a heart stopping moment. we would love that to happen. it's what we have been asking for for three years. the judge basically said that, you know, hair coming back which showed the remorse and therefore possibly a lenient sentence. that was our number one, apart from fulfilling my promise to harry, the promise i made him the night he was killed, that we weren't getting justice. that burns.
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but we do still take into consideration her children. i’m consideration her children. i'm aware obviously this process is not yet over, the court process, but would you both want to meet anne sacoolas at some point? is that part of this process? has that ever been part of this process for you? is that relevant anyway for you now? irate that relevant anyway for you now? we talked about it this morning. it - that relevant anyway for you now? we talked about it this morning. it was i talked about it this morning. it was in the beginning. _ talked about it this morning. it was in the beginning. we _ talked about it this morning. it was in the beginning. we did _ talked about it this morning. it was in the beginning. we did talk- talked about it this morning. it was in the beginning. we did talk about it and we are _ in the beginning. we did talk about it and we are open _ in the beginning. we did talk about it and we are open people. - in the beginning. we did talk about it and we are open people. for- in the beginning. we did talk about| it and we are open people. for me, in the beginning. we did talk about i it and we are open people. for me, i would _ it and we are open people. for me, i would have _ it and we are open people. for me, i would have too many questions for her to— would have too many questions for her to answer would have too many questions for herto answerand i would have too many questions for her to answer and i don't know whether— her to answer and i don't know whether she would answer them, but, yeah. _ whether she would answer them, but, yeah. i_ whether she would answer them, but, yeah, i would whether she would answer them, but, yeah, iwould be whether she would answer them, but, yeah, i would be willing, whether she would answer them, but, yeah, iwould be willing, if whether she would answer them, but, yeah, i would be willing, if it helped — yeah, i would be willing, if it helped everybody move forward i think— helped everybody move forward i think it's — helped everybody move forward i think it's got to be an option. and i've never— think it's got to be an option. and i've never said _ think it's got to be an option. jifuc i've never said never to think it's got to be an option. qtyc i've never said never to it. we'll just have to wait and see. will she come back? we will find out in a few weeks. it’s come back? we will find out in a few weeks. �* , ., come back? we will find out in a few weeks. �*, ., , .,, weeks. it's worth reminding people
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ofthe weeks. it's worth reminding people of the lengths _ weeks. it's worth reminding people of the lengths that _ weeks. it's worth reminding people of the lengths that this _ weeks. it's worth reminding people of the lengths that this family, i weeks. it's worth reminding people of the lengths that this family, you | of the lengths that this family, you as well, have had to go to come including going to the white house, trying to put pressure on donald trump directly, i mean, it is extraordinary the lengths of the family is gone too. find extraordinary the lengths of the family is gone too.— family is gone too. and it's something _ family is gone too. and it's something which _ family is gone too. and it's something which is - family is gone too. and it's something which is on i family is gone too. and it's something which is on my l family is gone too. and it's i something which is on my mind family is gone too. and it's _ something which is on my mind every dayiust_ something which is on my mind every dayiust to _ something which is on my mind every dayiust to remind _ something which is on my mind every dayjust to remind your— something which is on my mind every dayjust to remind your viewers, i dayjust to remind your viewers, these _ dayjust to remind your viewers, these are — dayjust to remind your viewers, these are my— dayjust to remind your viewers, these are my neighbours, - dayjust to remind your viewers, these are my neighbours, my. dayjust to remind your viewers, - these are my neighbours, my friends, and when _ these are my neighbours, my friends, and when we — these are my neighbours, my friends, and when we decided _ these are my neighbours, my friends, and when we decided they— these are my neighbours, my friends, and when we decided they wanted - these are my neighbours, my friends, and when we decided they wanted toi and when we decided they wanted to -et and when we decided they wanted to get justice. _ and when we decided they wanted to getjustice, it— and when we decided they wanted to getjustice, it was _ and when we decided they wanted to getjustice, it was inevitably- and when we decided they wanted to get justice, it was inevitably going i get justice, it was inevitably going to involve — get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a — get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a lot _ get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a lot of _ get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a lot of hard _ get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a lot of hard work, - get justice, it was inevitably going to involve a lot of hard work, but. to involve a lot of hard work, but it started — to involve a lot of hard work, but it started six _ to involve a lot of hard work, but it started six weeks _ to involve a lot of hard work, but it started six weeks after - to involve a lot of hard work, but it started six weeks after harry. it started six weeks after harry died. _ it started six weeks after harry died. and _ it started six weeks after harry died. and my— it started six weeks after harry died, and my priority- it started six weeks after harry died, and my priority has - it started six weeks after harry died, and my priority has beenj it started six weeks after harry- died, and my priority has been their mentat— died, and my priority has been their mental health _ died, and my priority has been their mental health. and _ died, and my priority has been their mental health. and i— died, and my priority has been their mental health. and i think- died, and my priority has been their mental health. and i think about. mental health. and i think about that very— mental health. and i think about that very carefully _ mental health. and i think about that very carefully before, - mental health. and i think about that very carefully before, i- mental health. and i think about. that very carefully before, i bought them _ that very carefully before, i bought them up _ that very carefully before, i bought them up here — that very carefully before, i bought them up here today, _ that very carefully before, i bought them up here today, i— that very carefully before, i bought them up here today, i checked - that very carefully before, i bought them up here today, i checked in l them up here today, i checked in with them, — them up here today, i checked in with them, it— them up here today, i checked in with them, it has _ them up here today, i checked in with them, it has been _ them up here today, i checked in - with them, it has been extraordinary what this— with them, it has been extraordinary what this family _ with them, it has been extraordinary what this family has _ with them, it has been extraordinary what this family has been _ with them, it has been extraordinary what this family has been put - what this family has been put through _ what this family has been put through they— what this family has been put through. they are _ what this family has been put through. they are the - what this family has been put| through. they are the bravest what this family has been put - through. they are the bravest people i through. they are the bravest people i know _ through. they are the bravest people i know they— through. they are the bravest people i know they are _ through. they are the bravest people i know. they are resilient. _ through. they are the bravest people i know. they are resilient. i- through. they are the bravest people i know. they are resilient. i could - i know. they are resilient. i could not have — i know. they are resilient. i could not have done _ i know. they are resilient. i could not have done this, _ i know. they are resilient. i could not have done this, charlie, - i know. they are resilient. i could not have done this, charlie, if- i know. they are resilient. i could| not have done this, charlie, if this had happened _ not have done this, charlie, if this had happened to _ not have done this, charlie, if this had happened to me _ not have done this, charlie, if this had happened to me and - not have done this, charlie, if this had happened to me and you - not have done this, charlie, if this had happened to me and you said| had happened to me and you said i’ili'it had happened to me and you said right we _ had happened to me and you said right we are — had happened to me and you said right we are going _ had happened to me and you said right we are going to _ had happened to me and you said right we are going to the - had happened to me and you said right we are going to the states, i right we are going to the states, several— right we are going to the states, several times, _ right we are going to the states, severaltimes, i— right we are going to the states, several times, ijust _ right we are going to the states, several times, ijust don't -
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right we are going to the states, several times, ijust don't knowi right we are going to the states, - several times, ijust don't know how they even— several times, ijust don't know how they even get — several times, ijust don't know how they even get out _ several times, ijust don't know how they even get out of— several times, ijust don't know how they even get out of bed _ several times, ijust don't know how they even get out of bed every - several times, ijust don't know how they even get out of bed every day. i they even get out of bed every day. what _ they even get out of bed every day. what the _ they even get out of bed every day. what the public— they even get out of bed every day. what the public don't _ they even get out of bed every day. what the public don't see _ they even get out of bed every day. what the public don't see is - they even get out of bed every day. what the public don't see is the - what the public don't see is the suffering — what the public don't see is the suffering that— what the public don't see is the suffering that i— what the public don't see is the suffering that i see _ what the public don't see is the suffering that i see every- what the public don't see is the suffering that i see every day l what the public don't see is the i suffering that i see every day and it isiust — suffering that i see every day and it isiust so — suffering that i see every day and it isjust so painful— suffering that i see every day and it isjust so painful to _ suffering that i see every day and it isjust so painful to see, - suffering that i see every day and it isjust so painful to see, so- suffering that i see every day and it isjust so painful to see, sol. it isjust so painful to see, so i think— it isjust so painful to see, so i think we — it isjust so painful to see, so i think we att— it isjust so painful to see, so i think we all owe _ it isjust so painful to see, so i think we all owe them - it isjust so painful to see, so i think we all owe them a - it isjust so painful to see, so i think we all owe them a deth it isjust so painful to see, so ii think we all owe them a debt of gratitude — think we all owe them a debt of gratitude because _ think we all owe them a debt of gratitude because they- think we all owe them a debt of gratitude because they have - think we all owe them a debt of. gratitude because they have stood think we all owe them a debt of- gratitude because they have stood up on a point _ gratitude because they have stood up on a point of— gratitude because they have stood up on a point of principle. _ gratitude because they have stood up on a point of principle. they - gratitude because they have stood up on a point of principle. they have - on a point of principle. they have taught— on a point of principle. they have taught their— on a point of principle. they have taught their children— on a point of principle. they have taught their children the - on a point of principle. they have i taught their children the difference between _ taught their children the difference between right— taught their children the difference between right and _ taught their children the difference between right and wrong _ taught their children the difference between right and wrong and - taught their children the difference| between right and wrong and that's why they— between right and wrong and that's why they are — between right and wrong and that's why they are doing _ between right and wrong and that's why they are doing this. _ between right and wrong and that's why they are doing this. it's - between right and wrong and that's why they are doing this. it's never. why they are doing this. it's never been _ why they are doing this. it's never been about— why they are doing this. it's never been about vengeance _ why they are doing this. it's never been about vengeance or- why they are doing this. it's never. been about vengeance or retribution. and i_ been about vengeance or retribution. and i think— been about vengeance or retribution. and i think they— been about vengeance or retribution. and i think they are _ been about vengeance or retribution. and i think they are my— been about vengeance or retribution. and i think they are my heroes. - and i think they are my heroes. charlotte — and i think they are my heroes. charlotte and _ and i think they are my heroes. charlotte and tim, _ and i think they are my heroes. charlotte and tim, it's - and i think they are my heroes. i charlotte and tim, it's important for you to come to places like us and join us on the bbc breakfast sofa, it is important, but we see one side of the story and we see you campaigning, we see you talking as you are now, but everybody watching this will be very mindful there is a different side to this story, the one for you in private, the days to come, and people will be watching thinking, they are concerned for you, almost when this battle is over i suppose in a way, when the normal
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grieving process kicks in? taste i suppose in a way, when the normal grieving process kicks in?— grieving process kicks in? we have not a lot grieving process kicks in? we have got a lot of— grieving process kicks in? we have got a lot of therapy _ grieving process kicks in? we have got a lot of therapy to _ grieving process kicks in? we have got a lot of therapy to go - grieving process kicks in? we have got a lot of therapy to go through. | got a lot of therapy to go through. it's going to be a while, i think, before we really understand the depths of the mental health issues we all know we have got. you live with the pain. every minute of every day. but we have suppressed and buried it coming up for over three years now, and you have to do that to a certain degree because we have had so much work to do, so you get to a point where you cope, you manage, and beyond that, you then start to learn to function so you can get out of bed and get to a point where you don't need to be reminded to eat, to drink, to clean your teeth. you get to that functioning area of a coping
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mechanism. but you don't live. you are scared to accept invitations to family functions, to friends functions, because you just don't know what your mood is going to be from one hour to the next, let alone one day to the next, and when it comes, if you have accepted an invitation, it comes to that day and you can be so down on the ground, you can be so down on the ground, you then don't go because the last thing you want to do is bring your grief and your hurt upon what should be a celebratory occasion. for that family orfriend. so be a celebratory occasion. for that family or friend. so you cope, be a celebratory occasion. for that family orfriend. so you cope, you manage, you function, you just don't live. and we have got to find a way with a lot of help in trying to move forward now and trying to rebuild, and that all starts with the horrific task of letting that hurt
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rise to the surface. it's going to knock us backwards for many, many days at a time. anything you would like to add? it’s days at a time. anything you would like to add?— like to add? it's not going to be areat. like to add? it's not going to be great. there's _ like to add? it's not going to be great. there's been _ like to add? it's not going to be great. there's been times - like to add? it's not going to be great. there's been times in . like to add? it's not going to be| great. there's been times in the last three — great. there's been times in the last three years when we've had to sort of— last three years when we've had to sort of step— last three years when we've had to sort of step back a bit and the other— sort of step back a bit and the other one _ sort of step back a bit and the other one is gone forward with the campaign, — other one is gone forward with the campaign, so everyone gets downtime because _ campaign, so everyone gets downtime because sometimes it knocks you sideways. — because sometimes it knocks you sideways, doesn't it? ijust want to say thank— sideways, doesn't it? ijust want to say thank you to my family, our families, — say thank you to my family, our families, for the support they have given— families, for the support they have given us— families, for the support they have given us to — families, for the support they have given us to get us through this, siblings, — given us to get us through this, siblings, parents, and also thanks to everybody who supported the campaign in the last three years. the support we've had from the media and from _ the support we've had from the media and from the public it makes me cry sometimes — and from the public it makes me cry sometimes when i read the messages they send _ sometimes when i read the messages they send me. we couldn't have done it without _ they send me. we couldn't have done it without the support and help of everybody. it without the support and help of eve bod. . .,, . it without the support and help of eve bod. ., . ., ~ it without the support and help of eve bod. ., . ., ,, everybody. fantastic. thank you so much for being _ everybody. fantastic. thank you so much for being with _ everybody. fantastic. thank you so much for being with us _ everybody. fantastic. thank you so much for being with us this - everybody. fantastic. thank you so i much for being with us this morning, especially tim and charlotte. i think everyone will wish you a
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little bit of peace for the upcoming period. thank you so much. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. i'm alison earle. business leaders in london have been reacting to liz truss stepping down as prime minister want the next leader to help put them on a path to growth. some say they've struggled due to the uncertainty in recent weeks in westminster. they're now calling for more targeted support from the government, as bills go up, and also more clarity so they can plan ahead. last summer there were increases in material costs, shipping costs, differences in getting labour. now the eye watering energy bills. there was a leadership battle over the summer. they are looking for some
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political and economic stability to be put in place. all this week, we've been looking at how difficult it is to find a place to live in the capital. a new scheme where homes are built exclusively for renters is being tipped as one way to help. it's in wembley and has now housed over 3,500 tenants — with 700 more flats being built in the next two years. you move in, you're on a contract and that's it, which is great. i know a lot of my friends... i was speaking to someone recently, who is renting from a private landlord and their rent has gone up by a0%, so they have to move out. here i know i'm safe and comfortable. tickets for london's new year's eve fireworks display go on sale today. more than 100,000 are available from midday and they cost £15. the mayor's office says they've gone up due to the increase in costs across the events industry. travel now, and this is how the tubes are looking at the moment. there's a good service on all lines this morning. and for all the latest travel news where you are, tune into your bbc local radio
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station for updates. now on to the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. fewer showers around today compared to yesterday's very heavy ones yesterday morning. a little bit misty first thing this morning but that should lift. some sunshine. a few showers to start with but then heavier showers likely towards the end of the afternoon, and in those sharper showers, you might get a rumble of thunder. it is going to be breezy and blustery today. temperatures again mild at 19 celsius. now overnight, we'll still get these blustery showers moving through through the evening, but then, post midnight, it will start to dry out. we'll see clearer skies. the minimum temperature again double figures. it's going to be mild. 11-13. for saturday, it is looking like a largely dry start. still could see one or two showers but certainly fewer than today and from yesterday, and it is going to still be quite breezy. temperature—wise, though, because we have the sunshine tomorrow, it is going to feel very mild. more cloud for the afternoon moving in and temperatures reaching around 18 celsius. it is a more unsettled day for sunday. that low—pressure front heading
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towards us, we are going to see some heavier showers, so those showers potentially producing rumbles of thunder. quite a breezy day, as well, as we head towards the end of the weekend and staying unsettled yet mild into next week. you'll find more stories on our website and social media, including the charity in south london that was given a masterclass by hollywood stunt riders. that's it, i'm back in an hour. good morning. you're watching breakfast with charlie in the studio and me here on downing street as the conservative party starts to pick another new prime minister — the fourth in less than four years — following liz truss's resignation afterjust 45 days in office. her successor should be announced by friday of next week, at the latest — and although nobody has officially thrown their hat in the ring yet — there are some likely candidates.
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ex—chancellor rishi sunak came second in the last contest, and he's the bookies' favourite this time, but the former trade minister penny mordaunt also performed well in that race, and may stand again. other veterans of the last contest include suella braverman, whose resignation as home secretary this week piled the pressure on liz truss to resign, and the surprise breakthrough candidate kemi badenoch. defence secretary ben wallace ruled himself out of the last race but could change his mind for this one. and there's growing speculation that borisjohnson, who only left number ten last month, could put himself forward. if rishi sunak does decide to stand, he'll need the support of 100 conservative mps, and they will include crispin blunt, whojoins me now from his constituency of reigate in surrey. good morning to you. thank you for joining us on breakfast. you are one
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of the first mps to call for liz truss to resign and you have put your backing behind rishi sunak. why? | your backing behind rishi sunak. why? i was quite worn over last week between jeremy why? i was quite worn over last week betweenjeremy hunt why? i was quite worn over last week between jeremy hunt and why? i was quite worn over last week betweenjeremy hunt and rishi sunak. jeremy hunt's picking up of the chancellorship and the astonishing way in which he stabilised the economy and the markets and everything else around the plans he put forward within three days of taking thatjob was incredibly impressive. the principal difference between jeremy and impressive. the principal difference betweenjeremy and rishi sunak is jeremy has been in the cabinet for a decade and rishi sunak about him acquittal three years as chancellor. they both have quite similar personal qualities. when people like that arrive within your group in parliament and are clearly in a different league to everybody else, they do stand out. they both have what i believe it takes, clearly the
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capabilities to be leader of the country, to be the prime minister. itjeremy is not going to stand, then play the alternative should be rishi sunak. he got to the final last time. had the race gone on longer, all the votes of the conservative party members taken at the end of it, there is no doubt he would have won. he started with the disadvantage of a very popular prime minister being seen to be responsible for him leaving office. we have to get past the great psychodrama around boris and that is going to be a question for us in the next week. i do not think we want to go back to when we were six weeks ago. we need to go forwards and have ago. we need to go forwards and have a leader who can be prime minister. rishi sunak hand, great qualities. as well as being able to get the
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message across the country about how serious the situation is. much speculation — serious the situation is. much speculation about _ serious the situation is. much speculation about whether . serious the situation is. much i speculation about whether boris johnson will throw his hat into the ring. people around him say he is the one to take the conservative party, the only one to take the conservative party successfully through the next general election. what we have to remember, the next general election he will not be facing jeremy corbyn. he would be carrying if he were leading as the burden of all the issues that got us into the place we were six or seven weeks ago, a little more than that. the leadership election took quite a long time. back injuly. when his fellow ministers pushed to remove him from office. i do not increase want to go back there and start with all of that baggage. boris is undoubtedly a fantastic communicator, both in words written
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and spoken. but rishi is of the same order but much more serious personality. i think we are in much more serious times now and we have to get a serious message across to the country and the conservative party, need to deliver a serious administration, sound money and well executed public services. hagar executed public services. how seriously can _ executed public services. how seriously can a _ executed public services. how seriously can a conservative party, which has offered three prime ministers in the space of one year in 2022, how seriously can the party be taken by the electorate? llnder be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak _ be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak as _ be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak as leader, _ be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak as leader, i _ be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak as leader, i think - be taken by the electorate? under rishi sunak as leader, i think we l rishi sunak as leader, i think we will be taken seriously. that is why he is very important in myjudgment that he wins this contest. we had to have someone with seriousness of purpose, the capacity for hard work, the internet to lead but also the
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ability to learn as we go to bring everybody together. —— the intellect to lead. they both possess those qualities. there is no arrogance about their astonishing personal intellectual capabilities. there is an appetite to learn all the time. when very, very clever people have that capacity as well, and the self—knowledge to be able to examine themselves and the job they are doing all the time, i think we are going to get the best possible outcome. . ~ going to get the best possible outcome. ., ,, , ., , . going to get the best possible outcome. . ~ ,, , . ., outcome. thank you very much for talkin: to outcome. thank you very much for talking to us- _ outcome. thank you very much for talking to us. thank— outcome. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you. - so what about the voters outside westminster? congleton in cheshire has been represented by the conservative party since the first world war. phil mccann is there for us. i was just talking to crispin blunt. he was same two people have an
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intellectual capability to bring some stability to the party, is that enough? some stability to the party, is that enou~h? ~ . some stability to the party, is that enou~h? . , ., some stability to the party, is that enou~h? ~ , ., ., ., enough? well, there is one name that came uuite enough? well, there is one name that came quite a — enough? well, there is one name that came quite a lot _ enough? well, there is one name that came quite a lot when _ enough? well, there is one name that came quite a lot when i _ enough? well, there is one name that came quite a lot when i was _ enough? well, there is one name that came quite a lot when i was here - came quite a lot when i was here yesterday speaking to people as to who should take over. his name began with the come here in this traditionally conservative voting market town in the east of trash aqua cheshire. here is what happened just after liz truss resigned. just wondering if you have heard the news that liz truss has resigned. ihla. that liz truss has resigned. no. that is good- — that liz truss has resigned. no. that is good. that _ that liz truss has resigned. no. that is good. that didn't - that liz truss has resigned. no. that is good. that didn't last. that liz truss has resigned. no. i that is good. that didn't last long, did it? who _ that is good. that didn't last long, did it? who would _ that is good. that didn't last long, did it? who would you _ that is good. that didn't last long, did it? who would you like? - that is good. that didn't last long, did it? who would you like? i - did it? who would you like? i wouldn't have _ did it? who would you like? i wouldn't have a _ did it? who would you like? i wouldn't have a clue. - did it? who would you like? i wouldn't have a clue. bring i did it? who would you like? i - wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't _ wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't do _ wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't do a _ wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't do a bad - wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't do a bad job. - wouldn't have a clue. bring boris back. he didn't do a bad job. i i wouldn't have a clue. bring boris i back. he didn't do a bad job. i have back. he didn't do a bad 'ob. i have seen on back. he didn't do a bad 'ob. i have on my— back. he didn't do a bad 'ob. i have seen on my phone, _ back. he didn't do a bad job. i have seen on my phone, what _ back. he didn't do a bad job. i have seen on my phone, what more - back. he didn't do a bad job. i havel seen on my phone, what more could you say? _
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seen on my phone, what more could you say? 45— seen on my phone, what more could you say? 45 days, typical. we'll knew— you say? 45 days, typical. we'll knew it — you say? 45 days, typical. we'll knew it was coming. just glad she did it _ knew it was coming. just glad she did it in _ knew it was coming. just glad she did it in the — knew it was coming. just glad she did it in the end because it was what _ did it in the end because it was what everyone wanted. | did it in the end because it was what everyone wanted. i would like to see them _ what everyone wanted. i would like to see them putting _ what everyone wanted. i would like to see them putting someone - what everyone wanted. i would like to see them putting someone in . what everyone wanted. i would like | to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak — to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak i— to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak. i would _ to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak. i would like _ to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak. i would like to - to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak. i would like to see - to see them putting someone in like rishi sunak. i would like to see him| rishi sunak. i would like to see him going _ rishi sunak. i would like to see him going in _ rishi sunak. i would like to see him going in the — rishi sunak. i would like to see him auoin in. ~ . rishi sunak. i would like to see him auoin in. ~ , ., , going in. the prime minister has 'ust going in. the prime minister has just resigned- — going in. the prime minister has just resigned. somebody - going in. the prime minister has just resigned. somebodyjust - going in. the prime minister has| just resigned. somebodyjust told going in. the prime minister has - just resigned. somebodyjust told me just resigned. somebody 'ust told me in the street. — just resigned. somebody 'ust told me in the street. i — just resigned. somebody 'ust told me in the street. i think_ just resigned. somebody 'ust told me in the street. i think it _ just resigned. somebody 'ust told me in the street. i think it is _ in the street. i think it is overdue- _ in the street. i think it is overdue. yes. _ in the street. i think it is overdue. yes. have - in the street. i think it is overdue. yes. have you | in the street. i think it is i overdue. yes. have you not in the street. i think it is _ overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? — overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? quite _ overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? quite a _ overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? quite a few _ overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? quite a few mentions i overdue. yes. have you not noticed the chaos? quite a few mentions of boris johnson _ the chaos? quite a few mentions of boris johnson and _ the chaos? quite a few mentions of boris johnson and audible _ the chaos? quite a few mentions of boris johnson and audible scoff- borisjohnson and audible scoff things by those mentioning his name. this constituency has this market town and a few more market towns. it is a safe conservative seat but not the safest. some data showed if an election occurred before she resigned, they could have lost all their seats bar 40 across the country. i am joined their seats bar 40 across the country. lam joined by their seats bar 40 across the country. i am joined by the editor of the congleton chronicle. what do
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you think people he had made of what has happened in the last few weeks? disbelief. there are people who support— disbelief. there are people who support liz truss. it is a shambles, really~ _ support liz truss. it is a shambles, really i_ support liz truss. it is a shambles, really~ iwas— support liz truss. it is a shambles, really. i was speaking to the tory yesterday — really. i was speaking to the tory yesterday who said they had basically abandoned... a lot of people — basically abandoned... a lot of people voted tory because they were older and _ people voted tory because they were older and they are suffering most, especially— older and they are suffering most, especially with pension trip a lot being _ especially with pension trip a lot being threatened. alienating themselves from traditional party members. he themselves from traditional party members. ., , ., members. he had spoken to conservatives _ members. he had spoken to conservatives who _ members. he had spoken to conservatives who say i members. he had spoken to conservatives who say even | members. he had spoken to i conservatives who say even they members. he had spoken to - conservatives who say even they have would not have voted for their own party. would not have voted for their own -a . would not have voted for their own party. one councillor said he could not look himself— party. one councillor said he could not look himself in _ party. one councillor said he could not look himself in the _ party. one councillor said he could not look himself in the face - party. one councillor said he could not look himself in the face and i not look himself in the face and vote _ not look himself in the face and vote for— not look himself in the face and vote for the tories. another senior councillor— vote for the tories. another senior councillor said he could not vote tory— councillor said he could not vote tory again _ councillor said he could not vote tory again. we councillor said he could not vote tory again-— councillor said he could not vote to atain. . ., ., ., ., ., tory again. we had a lot of mention of boris johnson. _ tory again. we had a lot of mention of boris johnson. what _ tory again. we had a lot of mention of boris johnson. what you - tory again. we had a lot of mention of boris johnson. what you think i of borisjohnson. what you think people here want? of boris johnson. what you think people here want?— of boris johnson. what you think people here want? stability, really. another tory _
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people here want? stability, really. another tory said _ people here want? stability, really. another tory said he _ people here want? stability, really. another tory said he was _ people here want? stability, really. another tory said he was in - people here want? stability, really. another tory said he was in favour. another tory said he was in favour more _ another tory said he was in favour more of— another tory said he was in favour more of rishi sunak and joint leadership. they want stability to reassure — leadership. they want stability to reassure the markets and get everything back contract. there are important _ everything back contract. there are important things to be dealt with around _ important things to be dealt with around internal politics.- important things to be dealt with around internal politics. thank you very much- — around internal politics. thank you very much. lots _ around internal politics. thank you very much. lots of— around internal politics. thank you very much. lots of mentions i around internal politics. thank you very much. lots of mentions of. around internal politics. thank you i very much. lots of mentions of boris johnson in this traditional conservative voting area. stability wanted from a place that has gone hand—in—hand with the conservatives for a long time. that hand-in-hand with the conservatives for a long time-— for a long time. that is a keyword. thank you- — back to charlie in the studio. morning to you. we saw larry the pat here. one thing we noticed he is quite aloof. he does not care. and just. he has been so used to people going in and out. he managed to get a stroke. he has ignored all of us stop when i was down there, it was the time of the resignation of boris
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johnson. ,., , ._ johnson. there were some dismay amont johnson. there were some dismay among the — johnson. there were some dismay among the rival— johnson. there were some dismay among the rival teams _ johnson. there were some dismay among the rival teams from i johnson. there were some dismayl among the rival teams from various networks. he came walking over and of course came straight to the bbc breakfast team. he walked away from everyone else. we took it as a sign. what were you wearing that day? maybe _ what were you wearing that day? maybe the pink is to bold. we are back with naga later. steven gerrard did so while managing rangers. he came to aston villa with high hopes. they are languishing near the relegation stand. it has not gone well after 11 games and he has lost hisjob. so who can expect a call,
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from aston villa about the vacant manager'sjob? the front runners appear to include mauritzio pochettino, the former spurs boss, who's out of work at the moment, and ex—chelsea manager thomas tuchel. of course, the question will be, "do they fancy it, after seeing gerrard sacked after 11 months in charge?" this was after the defeat last night at fulham. villa fans were singing anti—gerrard songs after fulham took the lead last night, after half an hour, and it then went from bad to worse for his team in west london. there was a lack of discipline, as douglas luiz was sent off for this head butt. then the ten men of villa, conceded a penalty, before tyrone mings completed the 3—0 defeat, with an own goal. they were booed off the pitch by their travelling support, but gerrard did find support from another manager, whosejob has been under threat, brendan rodgers at leicester. it just seems the way of it now that every day a manager is losing hisjob or under threat to lose a job. i think stability and patience seems just to be running out in football. iam really, really disappointed for him. i believed in time, and with that patience, he could have got them
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to where he wanted them to be and where the club want him to go. ironically, rodgers himself is under slightly less pressure now, after his leicester side moved off the bottom of the table, thanks to a 2—0 win over leeds. ironically, their managerjessee marsh, now finds his position under increasing scrutiny. his leeds side gifted leicester the lead, with an own goal, and then a brilliant team effort was rounded off by harvey barnes, to make it 2—0 to leicester. and leeds are themselves only out of the relegation zone on goal difference. "the heat of the moment just got to me." the words of christiano ronaldo, who has explained why he walked off down the tunnel before the end of wednesday's victory over tottenham. he was an unused substitute in the game, and there is some speculation that he himself refused to come on as a sub late on. whatever really went on, he's been dropped from the squad for tomorrow's match at chelsea and says he will keep working hard, and supporting his team mates. what can happen when you get caught up what can happen when you get caught up in the heat of the moment. have
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you ever been allowed to ride the children in need ritual? i have always been in admiration. we are catching up with them. an epic challenge under way as we speak. they are cycling in various places across the uk. you are in northamptonshire today. they are in northamptonshire today. they are just about to set off, aren't they? hasn't it in brilliant, everybody? yes, it certainly has. everyone is here. let's bring on pudsey and tabitha. good morning, however we feeling? so pudsey and tabitha. good morning, however we feeling?— however we feeling? so excited, i cannot wait- _ however we feeling? so excited, i cannot wait. it _ however we feeling? so excited, i cannot wait. it is _ however we feeling? so excited, i cannot wait. it is all _ however we feeling? so excited, i cannot wait. it is all about - however we feeling? so excited, i
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cannot wait. it is all about you. i this is how it went yesterday. three, two, one, go! hooray! i think the rain added some character to the day, which was fun. i actually enjoyed it, which was really good. taste i actually en'oyed it, which was reetty good.— i actually en'oyed it, which was reall tood. ~ , , really good. we left the university first thint . really good. we left the university first thing- we _ really good. we left the university first thing. we have _ really good. we left the university first thing. we have a _ really good. we left the university first thing. we have a go - really good. we left the university first thing. we have a go cart i really good. we left the university first thing. we have a go cart on l first thing. we have a go cart on the front— first thing. we have a go cart on the front so— first thing. we have a go cart on the front so we pedalled together. we were _ the front so we pedalled together. we were working our way through the day and _ we were working our way through the day and having the best time ever, even _ day and having the best time ever, even though it is raining. she
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cannot— even though it is raining. she cannot bear the rain. applause come on! good morning to you. come on. ~ ., come on! good morning to you. come on, . ., ., ., come on! good morning to you. come on. . ., ., ., ., how brilliantly did she do? just a reminder, she has a blood disorder which means she suffers extreme fatigue. how long was she cycling for? . fatigue. how long was she cycling for? ~ ., ., ., ., , for? about three and a half hours. we break it— for? about three and a half hours. we break it down _ for? about three and a half hours. we break it down into _ for? about three and a half hours. we break it down into sections. i for? about three and a half hours. | we break it down into sections. we had a _ we break it down into sections. we had a super— we break it down into sections. we had a supertime. we break it down into sections. we had a super time. we went to a project — had a super time. we went to a project that has made such a difference and to a hospital where she had _ difference and to a hospital where she had all her treatment. all the
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nurses— she had all her treatment. all the nurses who — she had all her treatment. all the nurses who treated her when she was young _ nurses who treated her when she was young she _ nurses who treated her when she was young. she put a lot into perspective yesterday of where she -ot perspective yesterday of where she got him _ perspective yesterday of where she got him on halai. when you do that and take _ got him on halai. when you do that and take thatjourney, got him on halai. when you do that and take that journey, it sort of dawned — and take that journey, it sort of dawned on— and take that journey, it sort of dawned on her. she is an incredible young _ dawned on her. she is an incredible young person, really is. all thanks to support — young person, really is. all thanks to support from children neg is where — to support from children neg is where she is. —— from children in need _ where she is. —— from children in need she — where she is. —— from children in need she is— where she is. —— from children in need she is where she is. we where she is. -- from children in need she is where she is. we have arranted need she is where she is. we have arranged a — need she is where she is. we have arranged a special _ need she is where she is. we have arranged a special guest _ need she is where she is. we have arranged a special guest to - need she is where she is. we have arranged a special guest to come l need she is where she is. we have i arranged a special guest to come and she knew what you do not know about. pudsey, can you bring in, ithink, do you know who this is? it is dr bindi. she is the consultant who basically saved tabitha's life. you will know if you were watching before that she has had stage three ovarian cancer. this is the
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consultant that saved her life, that brought her three. tell us how amazing she is. i brought her three. tell us how amazing she is.— brought her three. tell us how amazing she is. i do not have any words for — amazing she is. i do not have any words for how _ amazing she is. i do not have any words for how incredibly - amazing she is. i do not have any words for how incredibly amazing | words for how incredibly amazing tabitha _ words for how incredibly amazing tabitha is~ — words for how incredibly amazing tabitha is. when i see her when she comes— tabitha is. when i see her when she comes to _ tabitha is. when i see her when she comes to my— tabitha is. when i see her when she comes to my clinic room, she just is a role _ comes to my clinic room, she just is a role model— comes to my clinic room, she just is a role model for a lot of people. this is— a role model for a lot of people. this is what— a role model for a lot of people. this is what i love. tabitha was once a child in need and now look at what she has turned into. an amazing support network. i am what she has turned into. an amazing sopport network-— support network. i am very proud of her, how support network. i am very proud of her. how our— support network. i am very proud of her, how our team _ support network. i am very proud of her, how our team have _ support network. i am very proud of her, how our team have supported l her, how our team have supported her. her, how our team have supported her hn— her, how our team have supported her. �* . . her, how our team have supported her. . . , ., , ., her, how our team have supported her. . , ., , ., ., her. an incredible family. you are doint this her. an incredible family. you are doing this today _ her. an incredible family. you are doing this today because - her. an incredible family. you are doing this today because the i her. an incredible family. you are i doing this today because the charity pasic helped you, together with the doctor, to get three or cancer journey. people watching at home,
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why should they donate? maw; journey. people watching at home, why should they donate? many people need their donations _ why should they donate? many people need their donations and _ why should they donate? many people need their donations and need - need their donations and need support— need their donations and need support from pasic and the doctors. it support from pasic and the doctors. it helps _ support from pasic and the doctors. it helps people get through hard times— it helps people get through hard times in— it helps people get through hard times in their lives. please donate and follow— times in their lives. please donate and follow us.— and follow us. tabitha for prime minister! l _ and follow us. tabitha for prime minister! i hear— and follow us. tabitha for prime minister! i hear they _ and follow us. tabitha for prime minister! i hear they are - and follow us. tabitha for prime j minister! i hear they are looking for one. stick _ minister! i hear they are looking for one. stick with _ minister! i hear they are looking for one. stick with us. _ minister! i hear they are looking for one. stick with us. she i minister! i hear they are looking for one. stick with us. she will. minister! i hear they are looking l for one. stick with us. she will set off in less than an hour. you are remarkable. a round of applause for tabitha. let's go to charlie with details of how you can donate. back to you. if you'd like to support team rickshaw's efforts and donate to bbc children in need, here's how you can do it.
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stay with us, the headlines coming up.
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty here in downing street, after the resignation of the uk's shortest serving prime minister, and charlie stayt in the studio in salford. our headlines today. the uk will have a new prime minister in place by next friday, after liz truss quit yesterday, barely six weeks into the job. many familar faces are being touted as possible replacements, including the ex—prime minister borisjohnson. we'll have reaction throughout the morning here in westminster. good morning from one of our regular haunts, birmingham wholesale market, where i will be getting reaction from traders. fears that patients are being put at risk and unable to get the help they need because of a "gridlocked" health and care system.
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and it's the final day for the children in need rickshaw challenge team. we'll be with them as they set off on the last leg of the journey. and it may not be quite as wet as it was for some of yesterday, but i still wouldn't leave the house without an umbrella. a scattering of showers around. details on that and your weekend forecast right here on breakfast. good morning. it's friday 21st october and i'm outside number 10 downing street, where the sun has just risen, but it's already setting on the premiership of liz truss, who moved into this famous building just six weeks ago. by the end of next week at the latest she'll be gone, making her the shortest serving prime minister in british history. she tendered her resignation to king charles ii! yesterday after a premiership marred by financial turmoil, a series of humiliating u—turns and key ministerial sackings, and a day of chaos in parliament in which party discipline fell apart. on today's breakfast we'll be looking at what went wrong for liz truss and how the next
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incumbent of number ten will be selected by a week today. we'll be speaking to some of the mp5 backing the frontrunners, and to opposition parties and politicaljournalists here in westminster. we'll also bring you reaction from voters and businesses around the uk. first, our political correspondent lone wells reports on yet another historic and remarkable day in british politics. the shortest—serving prime minister in british history. her position unsalvageable. we set out a vision for a low—tax, high—growth economy that would take advantage of the freedoms of brexit. i recognise, though, given the situation, i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. i therefore have spoken to his majesty the king to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party.
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so attention now turns to who will replace her. tory mps have until 2pm on monday to nominate a new leader. they will need 100 nominations to make it onto the ballot. that means a maximum of three tory mps could make the cut. if only one gets 100 nominations from colleagues, they will automatically become leader. if there's more than one there'll be an mp5 vote, and then tory members will pick between the final two in an online vote, with the whole thing done by 28th october. so, who are tory mps talking up for the top spot here? no mps have officially said they will run yet, but rishi sunak, who came second in the summer, is someone a lot of mps have already come out in support of. cabinet ministers penny mordaunt and kemi badenoch, who ran for the leadership this summer, are also being mentioned by some tory mps. as is suella braverman, who resigned just this week as home secretary. and then there's this man, the former prime minister boris
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johnson, forced to resignjust months ago after mass resignations from his own government. hasta la vista, baby. add a series of scandals over downing street parties, and revelations that he knew about sexual misconduct allegations involving one of his senior government colleagues. some tory mps said they'd consider resigning as a conservative mp if he was elected again. others are now calling for him to return. conservative sources say the business secretary jacob rees—mogg has encouraged colleagues to back him. and other mp5 have said he is the only person with a mandate from the general public in an election. opposition parties, though, think it's time for a new election now. i really don't think another revolving door of chaos, another experiment at the top of the tory party, is the way out of this. what needs to happen now? well, on a uk level, there must be a general election. it is a democratic necessity. we don't need another- conservative prime minister. they need to go. we need another general election.
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let me just get a show of hands. it's not scientific, but it's just to get an idea. who here would like a general election? an election is something tory mps will want to avoid, with the polls looking bad for them. the immediate race is to see which of them can get the support of 100 colleagues over the weekend to have a shot at that top job. lone wells, bbc news. let's get more from our political correspondent helen catt. 0k, ok, so here is a statistic. you may not have thought you would be hearing at the start of 2022. three prime ministers in a year. i hearing at the start of 2022. three prime ministers in a year.- prime ministers in a year. i know, who could — prime ministers in a year. i know, who could have _ prime ministers in a year. i know, who could have foreseen - prime ministers in a year. i know, who could have foreseen that i prime ministers in a year. i know, who could have foreseen that in i prime ministers in a year. i know, i who could have foreseen that in the fact this time we are standing here six weeks after the last time there was a changeover of power. i think this is an astonishing level of turmoil we have seen over the course of this year, but when they are hoping to switch very quickly, that we could in fact had our third prime minister in by monday night if only one candidate got 100 nominations.
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evenif one candidate got 100 nominations. even if that happens, whenever it happens in the next week, when i was travelling down on the train yesterday to come here, i was talking to the train manager and she said to me how can we feel stable, how can we feel secure and settled in all the economic turmoil, heating, eating, went up there, people who are supposed to be telling us how to live our lives, how to make us feel better, there's so much instability?— so much instability? that's something _ so much instability? that's something mps _ so much instability? that's something mps are - so much instability? that's something mps are aware | so much instability? that's i something mps are aware of and so much instability? that's - something mps are aware of and if you think about whatjeremy hunt was saying when he announced all the changes to the mini budget earlier this week, the words he kept repeating their confidence and stability. it's about making things calmer, and that's the reason this contest is happening so quickly and the bar has been set a deliberately high, 100 mp5. 50 the bar has been set a deliberately high. 100 mps-— the bar has been set a deliberately high, 100 mps. so what is happening ritht now, high, 100 mps. so what is happening right now. no — high, 100 mps. so what is happening right now, no declarations, _ high, 100 mps. so what is happening right now, no declarations, but i high, 100 mps. so what is happening right now, no declarations, but what| right now, no declarations, but what are they doing? they are garnering support now. are they doing? they are garnering sopport now— support now. they will be trying to talk to supporters _ support now. they will be trying to talk to supporters to _ support now. they will be trying to talk to supporters to see _ support now. they will be trying to talk to supporters to see how i support now. they will be trying to | talk to supporters to see how close they can get to the 100, so nobody has publicly declared, we are in a
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strange scenario when some mps say they would back people if they do and the names in the frame are rishi sunak, penny mordaunt, and a few of those, and they got over the threshold in the summer and of course borisjohnson being talked about this morning. there are certainly supporters trying to get him on the ballot too. i’m certainly supporters trying to get him on the ballot too.— certainly supporters trying to get him on the ballot too. i'm going to talk to one — him on the ballot too. i'm going to talk to one now. _ him on the ballot too. i'm going to talk to one now. thank _ him on the ballot too. i'm going to talk to one now. thank you - him on the ballot too. i'm going to talk to one now. thank you very i talk to one now. thank you very much. nobody has officially thrown their hat in the ring to replace liz truss but the rumour mill is working overtime and one name which keeps coming up is the man who vacated this house six weeks ago, borisjohnson. if he does enter the contest, one mp who'll be supporting him is paul bristow, whojoins me now. paul, good morning to you. why would you support borisjohnson? ltrefoil. paul, good morning to you. why would you support boris johnson?— you support boris johnson? well, at the weekend — you support boris johnson? well, at the weekend l _ you support boris johnson? well, at the weekend i went _ you support boris johnson? well, at the weekend i went to _ you support boris johnson? well, at| the weekend i went to peterborough cathedral, the great eastern run, and did a bit of campaigning in time
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and did a bit of campaigning in time and time again my constituents told me bring back boris. these were people who were conservative supporting, people who were conservatives but were undecided for the first time since they voted in 2019. they are the ones who are telling me to bring back boris johnson. in 2019, i thought a high profile by—election in the city and i came third, so i lost badly, but six months later, we won that general election and boris was our prime minister. we were 19 points behind in the polls then come and he brought it back. we were even further behind in the polls now, and i think borisjohnson can bring us back again and can win places like peterborough at the next election. i peterborough at the next election. i think it's fair to say that boris johnson left under a cloud of instability. liz truss was brought in, elected by, voted for by the conservative party members, with the hope she would bring stability. if borisjohnson comes back, he is
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currently facing an investigation by the privileges committee into whether he obstructed the commons by telling mps to knock rules have been followed at number ten. is he morally the right person to lead this country again?— morally the right person to lead this country again? well, what are voters in this _ this country again? well, what are voters in this country _ this country again? well, what are voters in this country really - this country again? well, what are voters in this country really want, | voters in this country really want, as your package said, was stability and if you look at boris' track record as prime minister, he got brexit done, he took a few covid and got the vaccine into people's arms, tickets out of that lockdown earlier than other countries, the war in ukraine, standing up to president putin and his dreadful war, and of course, when it came to levelling up, he managed to generate great parts of our country and get money to places like peterborough where his policies were popular. and that's what i will be sent to conservative colleagues today and over the weekend.— conservative colleagues today and over the weekend. there are mps and the tarties over the weekend. there are mps and the parties say _ over the weekend. there are mps and the parties say they _ over the weekend. there are mps and the parties say they will _ over the weekend. there are mps and
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the parties say they will resign - over the weekend. there are mps and the parties say they will resign if i the parties say they will resign if he comes back so how does that offer stability? he comes back so how does that offer stabili ? ~ ., he comes back so how does that offer stabili ? . ., �* ., , he comes back so how does that offer stabili ? . ., a, _ ., stability? well, what boris johnson manated stability? well, what boris johnson managed to _ stability? well, what boris johnson managed to do _ stability? well, what boris johnson managed to do is _ stability? well, what boris johnson managed to do is unite _ stability? well, what boris johnson managed to do is unite many i stability? well, what boris johnson. managed to do is unite many people in the conservative party, many people in the shy constituencies dot dot is also dividing many people. he's dividing people in the conservative party.- he's dividing people in the conservative party. look at the evidence. _ conservative party. look at the evidence. he — conservative party. look at the evidence, he managed - conservative party. look at the evidence, he managed to i conservative party. look at the evidence, he managed to unite conservative party. look at the - evidence, he managed to unite people in constituencies like surrey and oxfordshire but managed to win brand—new mps in the red wall, and united those factions on the conservative party is and why the conservative party is and why the conservative movement. he did it once and he can do it again. i'm convinced of that. his once and he can do it again. i'm convinced of that.— once and he can do it again. i'm convinced of that. his own ministers resitned convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en — convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en masse _ convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en masse in _ convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en masse in order- convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en masse in order to i convinced of that. his own ministers resigned en masse in order to get i resigned en masse in order to get him out. who would be around his cabinet and would they offer security and stability?- cabinet and would they offer security and stability? well, that was then and _ security and stability? well, that was then and this _ security and stability? well, that was then and this is _ security and stability? well, that was then and this is now. - security and stability? well, that was then and this is now. we i security and stability? well, thatj was then and this is now. we are facing a crisis of the party. we could go down and be completely wiped out without boris johnson could go down and be completely wiped out without borisjohnson as our prime minister. isn’t wiped out without boris johnson as our prime minister.— our prime minister. isn't it fair to sa that our prime minister. isn't it fair to say that boris _ our prime minister. isn't it fair to say that boris johnson _ our prime minister. isn't it fair to say that boris johnson started i our prime minister. isn't it fair to |
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say that boris johnson started the say that borisjohnson started the crisis? say that boris johnson started the crisis? ., ii' ' say that boris johnson started the crisis? ., ii" ., , ., crisis? that 2019 manifesto was incredibly popular. _ crisis? that 2019 manifesto was incredibly popular. that's - crisis? that 2019 manifesto was incredibly popular. that's what. crisis? that 2019 manifesto was i incredibly popular. that's what got the mandate, borisjohnson had a mandate for members of the party, and on the electorate. i'm sure my colleagues will reflect on that when they vote. and we can avoid a general election, go out and put the band back together, have political heavyweights around the cabinet table, and we can go on and win the next general election. iteii table, and we can go on and win the next general election.— next general election. i tell you what else _ next general election. i tell you what else you _ next general election. i tell you what else you had _ next general election. i tell you what else you had a _ next general election. i tell you what else you had a mandate i next general election. i tell you i what else you had a mandate for, the conservatives had a mandate for sticking to the triple lock, offering stability. they haven't been capped. why should voters have any trust in this party under boris johnson for those promises to be kept again?— kept again? we've had an extraordinary _ kept again? we've had an extraordinary time, i kept again? we've had an extraordinary time, war. kept again? we've had an| extraordinary time, war in kept again? we've had an - extraordinary time, war in ukraine, a pandemic that no one would have ever predicted and that has played, if we are being completely honest, it's put a lot of plans to the wall. our economy is not as it was but that manifesto in 2019 was still
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incredibly popular and i'm convinced borisjohnson the prime minister will go on and we can keep our promises like the triple lock and other things. promises like the triple lock and other thinqs-_ other things. that's incredibly important — other things. that's incredibly important if— other things. that's incredibly important. if boris _ other things. that's incredibly important. if boris johnson i other things. that's incredibly - important. if boris johnson doesn't important. if borisjohnson doesn't get the 100 vote, who will you be backing? l get the 100 vote, who will you be backina ? , . ~ ., backing? i will be backing whoever can unite our— backing? i will be backing whoever can unite our party, _ backing? i will be backing whoever can unite our party, that's - backing? i will be backing whoever can unite our party, that's what. backing? i will be backing whoever| can unite our party, that's what i'm backing, borisjohnson, so let's see who stands. there is a lot of speculation at the moment but it's clear to me boris is already ahead, he can unite all factions in our party, the only candidate who's got a mandate from members and the country and we can go on and give this country the two years of stable conservative government we need to get us through the present economic difficulties and come out the other side, stronger and better country. paul bristow, thank you very much for talking to us. i think you are in demand in the house, we can hear shouts of daddy there. i think you should get back to that little one. thanks so much. take care. paul
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bristow talking to us. earlier this week on breakfast, we were at birmingham wholesale market to hear how business owners and their customers were coping with the economic turbulence of liz truss's time in office. we're back there today. hannah is gauging how people feel. in this next stage of political turmoil, with the hope of perhaps stability, i use that word again, to come in the days? yeah, the financial markets were somewhat relieved yesterday when liz truss resigned, perhaps somewhat unusually, but figures we have had in the last few minutes really show this state of the economy and the challenge that whoever our next leader is is going to have to face. we had retail sales figures out which show that the amount we bought fell by 1.4% last month, partly because of shop closures for the queens funeral but also a symptom of the rising cost of living that we talk about so much and the second
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thing which will be a concern for whoever takes over, government borrowing was up 10% last month to £20 million, the second highest september borrowing figure since records began in 1993. the only other time when it was higher was due to the furlough scheme during the pandemic. there were still big questions about energy support, inflation, all these things which are on the desk of whoever our next leader is, but let's see how the traders here in the market feel about what's going on. the prime minister resigned yesterday. what did you make of it? i minister resigned yesterday. what did you make of it?— did you make of it? i think no one ist inc did you make of it? i think no one is trying to _ did you make of it? i think no one is trying to help — did you make of it? i think no one is trying to help us. _ did you make of it? i think no one is trying to help us. everybody - did you make of it? i think no one is trying to help us. everybody is. is trying to help us. everybody is looking — is trying to help us. everybody is looking at— is trying to help us. everybody is looking at the prices come in the market. — looking at the prices come in the market. we _ looking at the prices come in the market, we have to pay everything upfront, _ market, we have to pay everything upfront, and the people we are selling, — upfront, and the people we are selling, they are not giving us good prices _ selling, they are not giving us good prices. they are saying it's really, really _ prices. they are saying it's really, really expensive. you can't afford it. really expensive. you can't afford it nobody — really expensive. you can't afford it. nobody can afford it. energy
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hills, _ it. nobody can afford it. energy hills, gas— it. nobody can afford it. energy bills, gas bills, everything is rising — bills, gas bills, everything is rising it's_ bills, gas bills, everything is rising. it's really hard for us. we can't _ rising. it's really hard for us. we can't afford _ rising. it's really hard for us. we can't afford essential things. food, things— can't afford essential things. food, things like — can't afford essential things. food, things like that, not even rent. everything is rising.— things like that, not even rent. everything is rising. thank you, really difficult _ everything is rising. thank you, really difficult times _ everything is rising. thank you, really difficult times and - everything is rising. thank you, really difficult times and i'm . everything is rising. thank you, | really difficult times and i'm told you can't come over here to the market without speaking to steve, the fishmonger i'm getting his take. steve, how are you doing? what did you think when you heard liz truss had resigned festival? i you think when you heard liz truss had resigned festival?— had resigned festival? i think it was very sad — had resigned festival? i think it was very sad but _ had resigned festival? i think it was very sad but very - had resigned festival? i think it. was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious _ was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious he _ was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious he wasn't _ was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious he wasn't up - was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious he wasn't up to - was very sad but very inevitable. she obvious he wasn't up to thel was very sad but very inevitable. i she obvious he wasn't up to the job which _ she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was _ she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was sad — she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was sad but _ she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was sad but now— she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was sad but now we - she obvious he wasn't up to the job which was sad but now we need - which was sad but now we need stabililv — which was sad but now we need stabililv the _ which was sad but now we need stability. the country— which was sad but now we need stability. the country is - which was sad but now we need stability. the country is crying i which was sad but now we need . stability. the country is crying out for stability. — stability. the country is crying out for stability, so _ stability. the country is crying out for stability, so that _ stability. the country is crying out for stability, so that does - stability. the country is crying out for stability, so that does not - stability. the country is crying out i for stability, so that does not mean a better_ for stability, so that does not mean a better general— for stability, so that does not mean a better general election. _ for stability, so that does not mean a better general election. if- for stability, so that does not mean a better general election. if the - a better general election. if the poll starl— a better general election. if the poll start to _ a better general election. if the poll start to turn _ a better general election. if the poll start to turn to _ a better general election. if the poll start to turn to a _ a better general election. if the poll start to turn to a hung - poll start to turn to a hung parliament, _ poll start to turn to a hung parliament, imagine- poll start to turn to a hung parliament, imagine what| poll start to turn to a hung. parliament, imagine what the poll start to turn to a hung _ parliament, imagine what the markets would _ parliament, imagine what the markets would do _ parliament, imagine what the markets would do then — parliament, imagine what the markets would do then. this _ parliament, imagine what the markets would do then. this is— parliament, imagine what the markets would do then. this is the _ parliament, imagine what the markets would do then. this is the midlands, l would do then. this is the midlands, and i_ would do then. this is the midlands, and i speak— would do then. this is the midlands, and i speak to — would do then. this is the midlands, and i speak to small— would do then. this is the midlands, and i speak to small and _ would do then. this is the midlands, and i speak to small and medium . and i speak to small and medium business — and i speak to small and medium business men _ and i speak to small and medium business men every— and i speak to small and medium business men every morning - and i speak to small and medium business men every morning of. and i speak to small and medium l business men every morning of the week— business men every morning of the week and _ business men every morning of the week and almost _ business men every morning of the week and almost to _ business men every morning of the week and almost to a _ business men every morning of the week and almost to a man - business men every morning of the week and almost to a man this - week and almost to a man this morning — week and almost to a man this morning they _ week and almost to a man this morning they are _ week and almost to a man this morning they are all— week and almost to a man this morning they are all saying - week and almost to a man this| morning they are all saying the week and almost to a man this - morning they are all saying the same thing _ morning they are all saying the same thing they— morning they are all saying the same thing they want _ morning they are all saying the same thing. they want to _ morning they are all saying the same thing. they want to see _ morning they are all saying the same thing. they want to see boris -
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thing. they want to see boris johnson — thing. they want to see boris johnson return— thing. they want to see boris johnson return to _ thing. they want to see boris johnson return to where - thing. they want to see boris johnson return to where the i thing. they want to see boris - johnson return to where the british electorate — johnson return to where the british electorate put _ johnson return to where the british electorate put him. _ johnson return to where the british electorate put him. he _ johnson return to where the british electorate put him. he was - johnson return to where the british. electorate put him. he was removed by electorate put him. he was removed try mps. _ electorate put him. he was removed by mps. i_ electorate put him. he was removed by mps. ithink— electorate put him. he was removed by mps, i think he's— electorate put him. he was removed by mps, i think he's had _ electorate put him. he was removed by mps, i think he's had his - electorate put him. he was removed by mps, i think he's had his yellow. by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, _ by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's— by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done _ by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done his _ by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done his time _ by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done his time in - by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done his time in the - by mps, i think he's had his yellow card, he's done his time in the sin| card, he's done his time in the sin bin in— card, he's done his time in the sin bin in rugby— card, he's done his time in the sin bin in rugby terms, _ card, he's done his time in the sin bin in rugby terms, it's _ card, he's done his time in the sin bin in rugby terms, it's time - card, he's done his time in the sin bin in rugby terms, it's time from| bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come _ bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come back— bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come back and _ bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come back and put _ bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come back and put in - bin in rugby terms, it's time from to come back and put in the - to come back and put in the performance _ to come back and put in the performance of— to come back and put in the performance of his - to come back and put in the performance of his life - to come back and put in the performance of his life and i to come back and put in the . performance of his life and for those — performance of his life and for those mps _ performance of his life and for those mps who _ performance of his life and for those mps who have - performance of his life and for those mps who have a - performance of his life and forl those mps who have a problem performance of his life and for - those mps who have a problem with that, because — those mps who have a problem with that, because they— those mps who have a problem with that, because they are _ those mps who have a problem with that, because they are a _ those mps who have a problem with that, because they are a bit - those mps who have a problem withl that, because they are a bit nervous about— that, because they are a bit nervous about everything. _ that, because they are a bit nervous about everything, he _ that, because they are a bit nervous about everything, he will— that, because they are a bit nervous about everything, he will be - that, because they are a bit nervous about everything, he will be given . about everything, he will be given the opposition— about everything, he will be given the opposition sleepless - about everything, he will be given the opposition sleepless nights. the opposition sleepless nights because — the opposition sleepless nights because he _ the opposition sleepless nights because he is— the opposition sleepless nights because he is the _ the opposition sleepless nights because he is the one - the opposition sleepless nights because he is the one man- the opposition sleepless nights| because he is the one man who the opposition sleepless nights- because he is the one man who can turn it— because he is the one man who can turn it around — because he is the one man who can turn it around for— because he is the one man who can turn it around for the _ because he is the one man who can turn it around for the conservativel turn it around for the conservative party— turn it around for the conservative party and — turn it around for the conservative party and you _ turn it around for the conservative party and you can— turn it around for the conservative party and you can look— turn it around for the conservative party and you can look the - party and you can look the constituents _ party and you can look the constituents in _ party and you can look the constituents in the - party and you can look the constituents in the eye - party and you can look the| constituents in the eye and party and you can look the - constituents in the eye and say that man has— constituents in the eye and say that man has a _ constituents in the eye and say that man has a mandate _ constituents in the eye and say that man has a mandate so _ constituents in the eye and say that man has a mandate so if— constituents in the eye and say that man has a mandate so if you - constituents in the eye and say that man has a mandate so if you are i man has a mandate so if you are watching, — man has a mandate so if you are watching, boris, _ man has a mandate so if you are watching, boris, your— man has a mandate so if you are watching, boris, your country. man has a mandate so if you are . watching, boris, your country needs you. watching, boris, your country needs ou. . , watching, boris, your country needs ou. ., , . ,, �* you. thanks very much, steve, i'm sure therell— you. thanks very much, steve, i'm sure there'll be _ you. thanks very much, steve, i'm sure there'll be lots _ you. thanks very much, steve, i'm sure there'll be lots of _ you. thanks very much, steve, i'm sure there'll be lots of mps - sure there'll be lots of mps listening with interest to views like that. raj is here from the local chamber of commerce. thank you for coming along. what is it we heard steve won stability, what are businesses saying to you? trier? heard steve won stability, what are businesses saying to you? very much the same, businesses saying to you? very much the same. a — businesses saying to you? very much the same, a period _ businesses saying to you? very much the same, a period of— businesses saying to you? very much the same, a period of stability - businesses saying to you? very much the same, a period of stability is - the same, a period of stability is essential— essential right now given the turmoil we've seen in the weeks and months. the good news is that the _ weeks and months. the good news is that the campaign to replace liz truss— that the campaign to replace liz truss will— that the campaign to replace liz truss will only run for a week and
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hopefully— truss will only run for a week and hopefully this time next week we have a _ hopefully this time next week we have a prime minister in place who can deal— have a prime minister in place who can deal with the issues we are facing — can deal with the issues we are facing right now. the labour market shortages, — facing right now. the labour market shortages, supply chain disruption, rocketing _ shortages, supply chain disruption, rocketing energy bills and record levels _ rocketing energy bills and record levels of — rocketing energy bills and record levels of inflation. how rocketing energy bills and record levels of inflation.— levels of inflation. how long will the impact _ levels of inflation. how long will the impact of — levels of inflation. how long will the impact of the _ levels of inflation. how long will the impact of the last _ levels of inflation. how long will the impact of the last few - levels of inflation. how long will| the impact of the last few weeks last? ~ �* , . ., , the impact of the last few weeks last? , last? we've seen the changes and reversal of — last? we've seen the changes and reversal of policy _ last? we've seen the changes and reversal of policy is _ last? we've seen the changes and reversal of policy is in _ last? we've seen the changes and reversal of policy is in the - last? we've seen the changes and reversal of policy is in the mini - reversal of policy is in the mini budget— reversal of policy is in the mini budget which can't of the financial markets, — budget which can't of the financial markets, but really what we need to see is _ markets, but really what we need to see is more — markets, but really what we need to see is more action on dealing with the upfront— see is more action on dealing with the upfront costs businesses are facing _ the upfront costs businesses are facing right now and at anything from _ facing right now and at anything from reforming business rates, freeing — from reforming business rates, freeing up _ from reforming business rates, freeing up cash for investment, reducing — freeing up cash for investment, reducing the rate of vat for retailers. _ reducing the rate of vat for retailers, firms are still struggling with debts from the pandemic, all of those measures would _ pandemic, all of those measures would help businesses right now. thanks _ would help businesses right now. thanks very much. i think it's worth saying that what's going on in westminster feels 1 million saying that what's going on in westminsterfeels1 million miles away from many people here this morning as they go about their business and the medical chaos to some extent has stopped being news. people know that there is chaos in westminster for some it's like what
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is the next instalment going to be? but the impact of what is going on has never felt more real for many people here. has never felt more real for many pe0ple here-— has never felt more real for many people here. hannah, you make a really good _ people here. hannah, you make a really good point _ people here. hannah, you make a really good point actually, - people here. hannah, you make a really good point actually, the - really good point actually, the words such as soap opera have been bandied around in many look at what's been going on in westminster, its real lives that matter as you've been gauging. thanks so much in birmingham. shall we show you the view over this place full of tumult over the last few months even? the sun is shining over london. there's something to be pleased about, slightly grey skies but their side apparently of downing street, though, is the colder side. i think it's about 13 degrees here this morning. we are all keeping warm, trying to anyway. matt can tell us what anybody else is experiencing as well. it's going to one up a little bit, in london, isn't it? it well. it's going to one up a little bit, in london, isn't it?- bit, in london, isn't it? it will do. 13 degrees _ bit, in london, isn't it? it will do. 13 degrees in _ bit, in london, isn't it? it will do. 13 degrees in october - bit, in london, isn't it? it will do. 13 degrees in october is l bit, in london, isn't it? it willj do. 13 degrees in october is a pretty mild one as well, but i thought would appreciate a bit of calm north. looking out across the
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north sea from whitley bay from one of our weather watchers. a day when more of a see more sunshine than yesterday. i thoroughly wet day but not a day to leave the ban is completely at home. already you can see areas of blue where we have got showers, the odd rumble of thunder as well. pushing northwards and eastwards. more rain across northern scotland. later patches for many. the weather system but heavy rain across eastern england yesterday. it's moving northwards and brightening up across southern scotland. brightness in northern ireland but showers pushing it. showers across northern, western england and wales to the rest of this morning. some of those with rumbles of thunder, misty and medieval eastern parts, fog patches gradually clearing as the breeze picks up and fewer showers across eastern areas compared to yesterday. some will stay completely dry, showers frequent in the western gale force winds around the coast of wales on the south—west of england. temperatures today lifting up to 13-19, temperatures today lifting up to 13—19, so higher than normally expected at this stage in october,
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but the show could going to tonight and another male night but if you go into tomorrow, charlie, it looks like it's going to try a day of the weekend for many.— like it's going to try a day of the weekend for many. back to you. matt, thanks very much. _ let's ta ke let's take you through some other stories this morning. an american woman has admitted responsibility for causing the death of 19—year—old harry dunn, who was knocked off his motorbike near a us military base in northamptonshire. anne sacoolas left the uk shortly after the incident, in august 2019, but yesterday pleaded guilty via video link from the states to causing death by careless driving. she will be sentenced next month. earlier on breakfast, harry's parents spoke about their long campaign for justice. it's a good thing i was sat down. i honestly think my legs would have just gone from under me otherwise. that's what we had been fighting for for three very, very long, painful years. and finally, finally, we got it.
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like charlotte said, i don't know, it was like a big weight had lifted to hear her say it and to see her say it. it was like the three years under pressure which had built slowly ebbed away. i felt my shoulders sort of relax. and i held my wife's hand. one of the most beautiful best times in my life, i think. the health and care system in england has been described by regulators as "gridlocked", with patients at risk because they can't get the assistance they need. the care quality commission says more than half of patients are unable to leave hospital when they are ready because of a lack of support in the community. here's our social affairs editor, alison holt. whitby in rural north yorkshire is one of many places feeling the impact of what the regulator describes as a gridlocked health and care system in england. this is one ofjust two
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nursing homes in the area. there is constant demand for them to take patients ready to be discharged from local hospitals to free up beds there. but the home's manager says theyjust can't find enough staff. as of this afternoon, we'll have 16 residents. we can have up to 24. so we have a lot of empty rooms, but we are heavily reliant at the moment on agency staff, which have been fantastic. but i would be quite nervous about taking on any extra residents because we wouldn't properly be able to meet their needs. the home was facing closure earlier this year, but the local council persuaded the current provider to take it on with some restrictions. without this place there would have been worryingly few nursing beds locally, and joan, who has lived here for 12 years, would have had to find a new home. i was very disturbed because it meant i was losing a selection of friends.
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i wasn't cross because it wasn't anything i could do except protest to whoever was listening. and that was nobody. today's report by the care quality commission warns of alarmingly high staff vacancies in health and care in england with 300,000 unfilled jobs, more than half of them in social care. it says half a million people are waiting for council care services and three in five patients end up stuck in hospitals waiting for support in the community. we recently brought together 250 leaders across health and social care who are currently operating out there in the system and they described it as a system in crisis. they talked about unacceptable waits on ambulances, people stuck in hospital when they need to need to leave, and there is urgent action needed now to ensure that people can get the right support at the right time. are you ready to hand over? it's existing staff who have
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to fill in the gaps? ken is one of four nurses at the whitby home. they really need six. in terms of the last four weeks, we have people on annual leave, so i've been doing 60 hours and you think i'm doing four night shifts and two day shifts. my only time off is actually a sleep day. how long can you keep doing that? not long. the government says its own plans for health and care address the priorities highlighted by the cqc and that it's putting extra money by the cqc and that it's into the recruitment and training of staff. alison holt, bbc news, whitby. the uk's financial watchdog is warning that millions more people are struggling to pay their bills, compared to two years ago. the financial conduct authority surveyed 19,000 households at the start of this year before the latest increases in fuel and energy prices. it found that nearly eight million people are finding their bills "a heavy burden". that's up from just over
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five million people in 2020. after breakfast today, rip off britain continues its special cost of living week. angela, gloria and julia are here to tell us more. morning, ladies. good morning, charlie. we're getting ready for the last in our special week of live cost of living programmes. we can't believe how fast it's flown but it does feel like the advice we've been able to give this week is more important than ever. which is why, today, we're cramming in as much as we possibly can. we certainly are. because, we're once again calling out the companies that could be doing much more to help right now starting with the energy suppliers given a serious telling off for failing some of their most vulnerable customers. we'll be hearing from one man who was forced to fend off bailiffs, when what he really needed was for his supplier to fix his faulty meter. so i opened the door and was shocked to see a bailiff stood there.
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we were appalled. we'd had no notice that the bailiffs were coming. so him demanding 5,000 was extremely upsetting. and a terrible shock. well, all week you've been telling us how your smart meter- in—home—displays aren't working. well, panic not! tech expert david mcclelland will be here with a solution that _ won't cost you a penny, - and doesn't need your energy supplier to send out an engineer. and if you're looking for a career change but you're worried about the costs of training, we've got some great news for you about the hundreds of professional courses available to many of us, absolutely free. you never know, it could supercharge your way to success. and, of course, our advice clinic is open for business. today, tech expert david, and personal finance powerhouse sarah pennells, will be helping one man fend off a £1,400 phone bill he should
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never have been sent. so if you have a question. for sarah or david, i reckon you know what to do by now — email ripoffbritain@bbc.co.uk| or send us a message on facebook, l where we're bbc rip off britain. i and we'll see you back here at 9.15. thanks very much. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm alison earle. business leaders in london have been reacting to liz truss stepping down as prime minister and want the next leader to help put them on a path to growth. some say they've struggled due to the uncertainty in recent weeks in westminster. they're now calling for more targeted support as bills continue to go up. last summer there were increases in raw material costs, shipping costs, difficulty getting labour. now eye—watering increases
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in energy bills. we had a leadership battle over the summer. they really are looking for some political and economic stability to be put in place. a new scheme where homes are built exclusively for renters is being tipped as one way to help those struggling to find a place to live in london. it's in wembley and has now housed over 3,500 tenants — with 700 more flats being built in the next two years. you move in, you're on a contract and that's it, which is great. i know a lot of my friends... i was speaking to someone recently, who is renting from a private landlord and their rent has gone up by a0%, so they have to move out. here i know i'm safe and comfortable. transport for london made more than £90 million last year from expanding the ultra low emission zone. that's according to research by the rac. the ulez charge — which affects the most polluting vehicles — now includes areas inside the north
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and south circulars. the mayor is now deciding whether to make the zone bigger next year. tickets for london's new year's eve fireworks display go on sale later. more than 100,000 are available from midday and they cost £15. the mayor's office says they've gone up due to the increase in costs across the events industry. travel now, and this is how the tubes are looking. there's a good service on all lines this morning. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. fewer showers around today compared to yesterday's very heavy ones yesterday morning. a little bit misty first thing this morning but that should lift. some sunshine. a few showers to start with but then heavier showers likely towards the end of the afternoon, and in those sharper showers, you might get a rumble of thunder. it is going to be breezy and blustery today. temperatures again mild at 19 celsius. now overnight, we'll still get these blustery showers moving through through the evening, but then, post midnight, it will start to dry out.
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we'll see clearer skies. the minimum temperature again double figures. it's going to be mild. 11-13. for saturday, it is looking like a largely dry start. still could see one or two showers but certainly fewer than today and from yesterday, and it is going to still be quite breezy. temperature—wise, though, because we have the sunshine tomorrow, it is going to feel very mild. more cloud for the afternoon moving in and temperatures reaching around 18 celsius. it is a more unsettled day for sunday. that low—pressure front heading towards us, we are going to see some heavier showers, so those showers potentially producing rumbles of thunder. quite a breezy day, as well, as we head towards the end of the weekend and staying unsettled yet mild into next week. you'll find more stories on our website and social media — including the charity in south london that was given a masterclass by hollywood stunt riders. that's it, i'm backjust after nine. hello, this is breakfast with me, charlie stayt in the studio, and naga munchetty on downing street,
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following the resignation of liz truss as prime minister. let's show you the image across london this morning. so many questions now. you can see the houses of westminster in the foreground. so many questions about what will happen next. we can show you the shot of downing street now. the podium is setup, the lectin and the prime minister comes out and announces they are quitting theirjob. yesterday it was liz truss. very short statement from her. the process is for the conservative party to find a new leader and a new prime minister. let's speak to the shadow chancellor. give us a thought about
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the process in the conservative party to find a new prime minister for the country. it is party to find a new prime minister for the country.— for the country. it is clear the loner for the country. it is clear the longer the — for the country. it is clear the longer the conservatives - for the country. it is clear the longer the conservatives are | longer the conservatives are empowered the less it they are to govern. they had done a huge amount of damage, particularly in the last 45 days or so with liz truss as prime minister, frankly over the last 12 and a half years. this crisis is one made in downing street and paid for by ordinary working people the length and breadth of the country. the only way to provide leadership, security and stability that families are craving is to have a general election now. it is that families are craving is to have a general election now.— a general election now. it is a message _ a general election now. it is a message that _ a general election now. it is a message that is _ a general election now. it is a message that is coming - a general election now. it is a message that is coming veryl a general election now. it is a - message that is coming very clearly from many other political parties. as you well know that is not going to happen. as you well know that is not going to ha en. . as you well know that is not going to ha--en. ., ., , to happen. there are many conservative _ to happen. there are many conservative mps - to happen. there are many conservative mps who - to happen. there are many. conservative mps who share to happen. there are many- conservative mps who share the concerns that their constituents have about the direction the country is going in. the fact we are
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increasingly looking like a laughing stock around the world. the volatility in financial markets and the huge spike in borrowing costs is having on home owners and people looking to get on the housing ladder. they are very concerned that any new government, you know they are passing around being prime minister and being chancellor like it is some sort of game of pass the parcel. this is no way to run the country. it is not normal to be looking at gilt yields on an hourly basis to know the cost of borrowing. we cannot carry on like this. many conservatives recognise that as well. the only way to provide a mandate for the government is to have a general election because without that, a new prime minister, a new chancellor is not going to have the mandate without that general election.— general election. follow your argument — general election. follow your argument through, _ general election. follow your argument through, if - general election. follow your argument through, if you - general election. follow your . argument through, if you would. general election. follow your - argument through, if you would. i guess you are saying this because you are speaking to your colleagues
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from the other party, the conservative party mps. when you say they are of a mindset that time is up, where does that get you? i do not understand the logic of the argument. how does it change the fact that another conservative leader and prime minister will be elected? it leader and prime minister will be elected? , ., , , elected? it will be in the end app to mps to decide _ elected? it will be in the end app to mps to decide whether - elected? it will be in the end app to mps to decide whether the - to mps to decide whether the government can continue without a mandate. that is what will be the case. a new prime minister, a new chancellor, won't have the mandate needed to provide the leadership our country desperately needs and desperately deserves. and so i would urge all right—thinking members of parliament to back those calls for a general election. and for the new prime minister, whoever that is, to seek the mandate that is required to provide that leadership. we cannot just carry on like this. number 10 and number 11 downing street are not
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short—term at the end bees where you can rock up for the manse, because a load of damage and then pass it onto the next one. a new prime minister and chancellor won't have a mandate from the british people. the longer they carry on like this, the more damage will be done. 1.8 million people come off fixed term mortgage deals in the next year. on average they will be paying £580 more every single month because of the damage the conservatives had done. third prices are up 15% a year, electricity up 45%, gas doubled in the course of the year. we are facing huge challenges as a country. the conservatives have got us into this mess. they are not in the place to lead us through these challenging times, only a to lead us through these challenging times, onlya labour to lead us through these challenging times, only a labour government with keir starmer as prime minister can provide that leadership, the plans for economic stability and then the
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plans for growth to get us out of this mess. abs, plans for growth to get us out of this mess-— plans for growth to get us out of this mess. �* ., ., , ., , ., this mess. a lot of those statistics he auoted this mess. a lot of those statistics he quoted iust _ this mess. a lot of those statistics he quoted just there _ this mess. a lot of those statistics he quoted just there may - this mess. a lot of those statistics he quoted just there may well - this mess. a lot of those statistics he quoted just there may well be l he quoted just there may well be true. it is also true if there is a new conservative leader, new prime minister, we already have in place a new chancellor, jeremy hunt. it will look and feel very different. the conservative party is thinking that in two years' time, people may well have a different opinion of what has happened during the time of liz truss or borisjohnson. happened during the time of liz truss or boris johnson.- happened during the time of liz truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt has been a — truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt has been a member— truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt has been a member of— truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt has been a member of the - truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt has been a member of the cabinet l truss or boris johnson. jeremy hunt i has been a member of the cabinet for nine at the last 12 years of conservative government. he was a key architect of austerity season one. now he is saying because of the chaos and mass the conservatives have created we need austerity season two. the two frontrunners for the leadership of the conservative party, the latest leadership election in the conservative party are between a man who used to be
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prime minister and the man who used to be chancellor. this is not the change the country needs. it is a game of pass the parcel, passing round the prime ministership and chancellor ship. that is not the change we need is a country, not the way to provide stability we need in financial markets and also full family finances. we cannot carry on like this. something needs to change. the only way to have a government with a mandate is to a general election.— general election. thank you very much for your— general election. thank you very much for your time _ general election. thank you very much for your time this - general election. thank you very | much for your time this morning. thank you. let's go back to downing street. it thank you. let's go back to downing street. , ,., , isn't it. you are speaking to a lot of people. inside the conservative bubble they are all talking about who might run, who might they support. there are a lot of arguments elsewhere going on amongst so—called ordinary people in the labour party and rival parties about
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the justification for another conservative leader without going to the country. it is a fascinating time in politics. unsurprisingly there is that _ time in politics. unsurprisingly there is that argument. - thank you very much. it would be their third prime minister in a year after a chaotic few months, let alone the days. it is difficult to try to cut through all of that. we have been to hannah in birmingham and to congleton to gauge opinion. people want to know what is happening next with finances and budgets as they try to make plans. chris mason has been following this very closely. good morning to you. we heard from rachel reeves, the labour party and other parties demanding a general election. that is of the table for the moment
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because the conservative party needs to find a new leader.— to find a new leader. precisely. what we're _ to find a new leader. precisely. what we're going _ to find a new leader. precisely. what we're going to _ to find a new leader. precisely. what we're going to hear - to find a new leader. precisely. what we're going to hear from | to find a new leader. precisely. i what we're going to hear from the opposition— what we're going to hear from the opposition parties his clamour for a general— opposition parties his clamour for a general election. let's be clear. how— general election. let's be clear. how do — general election. let's be clear. how do general elections happen? either— how do general elections happen? either prime ministers volunteered for them _ either prime ministers volunteered for them to happen or parties combined in westminster demanded. in other words— combined in westminster demanded. in other words they would have to a majority — other words they would have to a majority or — other words they would have to a majority or significant number of conservative mps who would want it to happen _ conservative mps who would want it to happen to bring it about unless you reach — to happen to bring it about unless you reach the legal deadline which is way— you reach the legal deadline which is way off— you reach the legal deadline which is way off from january 2025. in the short _ is way off from january 2025. in the short term, — is way off from january 2025. in the short term, all the focus is on who will be _ short term, all the focus is on who will be the — short term, all the focus is on who will be the next prime minister by this time — will be the next prime minister by this time next week. what an extraordinary sentence to utter. the opening _ extraordinary sentence to utter. the opening question at this stage involves— opening question at this stage involves two important words, boris and johnson. involves two important words, boris andjohnson. does involves two important words, boris and johnson. does he decide to run? can he _ and johnson. does he decide to run? can he command enough support among mps? some— can he command enough support among mps? some love him, some are absolutely— mps? some love him, some are absolutely horrified at the prospect
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of his _ absolutely horrified at the prospect of his return. is he a significant figure _ of his return. is he a significant figure in— of his return. is he a significant figure in this race? does he decide to give _ figure in this race? does he decide to give it _ figure in this race? does he decide to give it a — figure in this race? does he decide to give it a crack? then the likes of rishi — to give it a crack? then the likes of rishi sunak, we might hear from penny— of rishi sunak, we might hear from penny mordaunt today. i think we will hear— penny mordaunt today. i think we will hear one way or another from ben wallace today. a huge amount of horse _ ben wallace today. a huge amount of horse trading, arm—twisting, phone bashing _ horse trading, arm—twisting, phone bashing a _ horse trading, arm—twisting, phone bashing a spreadsheet populating the names— bashing a spreadsheet populating the names of— bashing a spreadsheet populating the names of supporters and backers all happening _ names of supporters and backers all happening in the next couple of days _ happening in the next couple of da s. . , ., happening in the next couple of da s. ., , ., ., happening in the next couple of da s. ., ., ., , days. have you heard anything in terms of how _ days. have you heard anything in terms of how much _ days. have you heard anything in terms of how much support i days. have you heard anything in| terms of how much support those days. have you heard anything in i terms of how much support those who have not yet declared are garnering? yes, we are getting the beginnings of a sense — yes, we are getting the beginnings of a sense of it. things are very fluid, _ of a sense of it. things are very fluid, of— of a sense of it. things are very fluid, of course. the plates will need _ fluid, of course. the plates will need perhaps compared with how the contest _ need perhaps compared with how the contest played out last time. not least _ contest played out last time. not least because there will be a different platter of candidates. that will — different platter of candidates. that will not be liz truss on that list _ that will not be liz truss on that list we — that will not be liz truss on that list we are _ that will not be liz truss on that list. we are already seeing spreadsheet circulating. all of the wannabes have that magic number, magic— wannabes have that magic number, magic number of100. it
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wannabes have that magic number, magic number of 100. it is a high bar, _ magic number of 100. it is a high bar. the— magic number of 100. it is a high bar, the numberof magic number of 100. it is a high bar, the number of mps they need to si-n bar, the number of mps they need to sign up _ bar, the number of mps they need to sign up by— bar, the number of mps they need to sign up by monday in order to be on that ballot— sign up by monday in order to be on that ballot paper for the first round — that ballot paper for the first round if _ that ballot paper for the first round if there is more than one mp at that— round if there is more than one mp at that point who is running. huge amount— at that point who is running. huge amount of— at that point who is running. huge amount of persuasion under way. we are seeing _ amount of persuasion under way. we are seeing on social media mps declaring — are seeing on social media mps declaring their support. some down political— declaring their support. some down political tram tracks. if they supported rishi sunak last time, they are — supported rishi sunak last time, they are often sent the same thing this time — they are often sent the same thing this time. we will only get a sense of how— this time. we will only get a sense of how it _ this time. we will only get a sense of how it is — this time. we will only get a sense of how it is shaking out when we get a greater— of how it is shaking out when we get a greater sense of who is going for it and _ a greater sense of who is going for it and trying to make the case should — it and trying to make the case should be _ it and trying to make the case should be banned. the number of people _ should be banned. the number of people who decide to give it a go this weekend will be important. every— this weekend will be important. every wannabe prime minister will attract _ every wannabe prime minister will attract at — every wannabe prime minister will attract at least some support and that means they supporters cannot go anywhere _ that means they supporters cannot go anywhere else in helping others reach _ anywhere else in helping others reach that magic number of 100. it is a weekend of spreadsheets at westminster, it really will be, as phones _ westminster, it really will be, as
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phones are — westminster, it really will be, as phones are hit, as i say, to try to work— phones are hit, as i say, to try to work out — phones are hit, as i say, to try to work out how— phones are hit, as i say, to try to work out how the number shake—out. chris, _ work out how the number shake—out. chris. no— work out how the number shake—out. chris, no doubt, as you alluded to, we will get some announcements today, some declarations either way. we will keep an iron and you will keep across that, i am sure. chris mason, our political editor. back to charlie in the studio. a day of announcements and we will cover it here on the bbc. the new series of the crown is released next month, and it's already causing a stir. damejudi dench has called the netflix drama "crude sensationalism," while the former prime minister sirjohn major dismissed it as "a barrel load of malicious nonsense." the plot covers royal events during the '90s, including the very public breakdown of the marriage between prince charles — now king charles — and diana. our media and arts correspondent david sillito reports. in light of the events of the last 12 months, perhaps i have more
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to reflect on than most. so here it is, the trailer for the new series. it's not giving a great deal away, but the story's clear — the turbulent years of charles and diana. and we do see a glimpse of sirjohn major. and there is a scene imagining a conversation between the former prime minister and the then prince charles, which sirjohn says suggests they discussed the queen's abdication. it is, he says, "nonsense." a view echoed by someone who got to know the prince well during those years, broadcaster and royal biographer, jonathan dimbleby. it's inconceivable that he would have suggested to the prime minister of the day that one way or another his mother should be obliged to abdicate in his favour. moreover, he was very, very much involved in public affairs, to which he was extraordinarily devoted — not least, of course, the environment and climate change. the idea, the very idea is nonsense,
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and this is nonsense on stilts. my worry about it is i strongly favour freedom of dramatic expression and freedom of expression more generally. but this can very easily muddle people who are not familiar with how the constitution of this country operates. damejudi dench has also written to the times about what she fears is a cruel, unjust portrayal and says there needs to be an onscreen warning that this is fiction, not truth. however, netflix says it has always been open from the beginning that this is a fictional dramatisation. the question is, of course, how much should we believe? tv critic scott bryan feels the public knows what it's watching. is it fact as it fiction? i mean, that is the big question, isn't it? you're not quite certain what's fact and fiction, then? i mean, the audience must bejust as confused. i feel that audiences don't expect
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that it is a fact—based thing. if they did, they would watch a documentary, i think, from the very start. you think people understand that they're making stuff up? i think they do. i mean, the crown has never said that it's been a documentary. i feel that from the very beginning people have always seen this as a drama. i think an element of confusion can come in because of its attention to detail and how it looks. the fact that they have actors who portray sometimes very accurately the mannerisms of the royal family. it feels like reality to me. and i watch it and i keep on going back to google going did this really happen? i mean, it's confusing. well, at the same time, though, i say that people see it as a drama. it's always been a clear drama. it's been an indication of a drama. i think viewers deserve more credit. this was a difficult period for the royal family.
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the show�*s writer, peter morgan, admits it touches on painful memories, but says the show has not been unkind. how true it all is is still unfolding. david sillitoe, bbc news. all week on breakfast we've been checking in with the children in need rickshaw challenge team, as they make their way around the uk and today is their final day. so far, we've seen matt baker — along with young people who've been supported by bbc children in need—funded projects — as they set off from sunderland to durham on monday, then rode from warrington to wrexham on tuesday. on wednesday they were in aberystwyth. yesterday it was birmingham to kenilworth, and today team rickshaw finish off the challenge in northamptonshire. breakfast�*s jayne mccubbin has been with them all week. i think it is getting a little bit noisy ahead of the final day, day five. . . . noisy ahead of the final day, day five. . ., . ., five. nice and quiet here, nice and ruiet. five. nice and quiet here, nice and quiet- not — five. nice and quiet here, nice and quiet- not for— five. nice and quiet here, nice and quiet. not for long. _ five. nice and quiet here, nice and quiet. not for long. good - five. nice and quiet here, nice and quiet. not for long. good morning| quiet. not for long. good morning from wellingborough school. absolute
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scenes, notjust in westminster, but in wellingborough. matt scenes, notjust in westminster, but in wellingborough.— in wellingborough. matt is here. we are read , in wellingborough. matt is here. we are ready. we _ in wellingborough. matt is here. we are ready, we are _ in wellingborough. matt is here. we are ready, we are ready. _ in wellingborough. matt is here. we are ready, we are ready. tabitha i in wellingborough. matt is here. we are ready, we are ready. tabitha is i are ready, we are ready. tabitha is here. are ready, we are ready. tabitha is here- before _ are ready, we are ready. tabitha is here. before we _ are ready, we are ready. tabitha is here. before we chat _ are ready, we are ready. tabitha is here. before we chat to _ are ready, we are ready. tabitha is| here. before we chat to everybody, have a look at this, this is tabitha's story. this is tabitha. i have heard about a warrior face. a warriorface? you'll probably see it on the pitch later tonight. she definitely takes things by the horns. she might seem the mild—mannered young lady, but she does somewhat change. yeah, she can be pretty fierce when she wants to be. tabitha is 17 and lives in northampton with her two tiny dachshunds. but two years ago, her life was turned upside down. i was coming home from school, really tired, falling asleep for hours on end until dinner, and then i'd fall back asleep.
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my mum knew there was something wrong with me, but ijust thought i was doing a bit too much in year 11. in fact, that was the start of tabitha's cancer journey, after doctors found a tumour — a really big tumour. obviously, as a parent, it's one of the worst things you want to hear. people sometimes compare that it's an orange or it's a lemon, _ or it's a lime or it's a walnut. you know, those are the sort i of scales that they were using. this was outside of those scales. this was enormous. on world cancer day, tabitha shared her story. hi, guys. some of you may or may not know that i did get diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian dysgerminoma, which is a tumour that is cancerous off my ovaries. i have lost my hair as a result of chemo, but i have a wig, which looks like my old hair. my chemo is making me feel very sick, very tired, very lethargic, very unmotivated,
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very like bleurgh, is the way to put it, really. but straight after diagnosis, tabitha's warrior spirit kicked in. tabitha thought about this. she wiped away the tears from her eyes and a question popped up in her mind. "i've got a hockey match tomorrow. is it all right if i still play?" hockey kept tabitha going through the times when she could play and during the times when she couldn't. it was a children in need—funded charity called pasic. pasic supports children and young people with cancer in northampton. and today it's taking tabitha and her family to see the team and the players she loves. nice to meet you. i'm, like, star struck. i'm literally shaking. children in need help
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fund fun activities, like going to the rugby, having our parties, going to a theatre, playing crazy golf, whatever it might be, to get young people together to help get you out of the house. because it's tough when you've had an illness, isn't it? yeah. definitely. it's been able for me tojust kind of, like, meet other people, see that i wasn't alone and keep my smile on my face and keep happy and keep, like, going. it definitely gave me a lot more determination to keep going because there was other people out there like me, and i could go out and let my hair down and just forget about everything, even if it was only for an evening, and then i was back in hospital the next day. i can't believe that happened. yeah, i'm a bit mind blown, really. a bit speechless. tabitha is thankfully in remission, and now is facing a new challenge. rickshaw challenge! how do you feel? oh, i'm so excited. ijust can't wait to get on the bike now. northampton's not going to know what's hit them really.
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0h, oh, my goodness! what a brilliant girl! what a brilliant cause and what a brilliant crowd! my goodness, how exciting to be here! let's talked to the woman at the moment, tabitha. my goodness! this talked to the woman at the moment, tabitha. my goodness!— tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff- a — tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. a bit _ tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. a bit crazy. _ tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. a bit crazy. i _ tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. a bit crazy. i am - tabitha. my goodness! this is quite a sendoff. a bit crazy. i am looking | a sendoff. a bit crazy. i am looking at everyone, it is mental it has happened. at everyone, it is mental it has happened-— at everyone, it is mental it has hauened. ., �* ., ., , ., . happened. can't wait to start. we are minutes _ happened. can't wait to start. we are minutes away, _ happened. can't wait to start. we are minutes away, tabitha, i happened. can't wait to start. we i are minutes away, tabitha, minutes away _ are minutes away, tabitha, minutes awa . ., are minutes away, tabitha, minutes awa , ., , are minutes away, tabitha, minutes awa . ., , are minutes away, tabitha, minutes awa. ., , ., , away. tell me about this young lady. you have a — away. tell me about this young lady. you have a chance _ away. tell me about this young lady. you have a chance to _ away. tell me about this young lady. you have a chance to meet _ away. tell me about this young lady. you have a chance to meet the i away. tell me about this young lady. | you have a chance to meet the whole team. why do people need to support tabitha today? she team. why do people need to support tabitha today?— tabitha today? she is a fine example of what ou tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can _ tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can do _ tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can do with _ tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can do with a _ tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can do with a bit - tabitha today? she is a fine example of what you can do with a bit of- of what you can do with a bit of help— of what you can do with a bit of help and — of what you can do with a bit of help and support. she is an icon at the schoot — help and support. she is an icon at the school. look at the people who
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turned _ the school. look at the people who turned out — the school. look at the people who turned out to send her off. i was 'ust turned out to send her off. i was just talking _ turned out to send her off. i was just talking to all of their grandparents here and how proud they are and _ grandparents here and how proud they are and how— grandparents here and how proud they are and how you would never have imagined — are and how you would never have imagined we would be seeing this because _ imagined we would be seeing this because of everything tabitha has been _ because of everything tabitha has been through. because of everything tabitha has been through-— because of everything tabitha has been throu~h. , ,, , , been through. impressed everybody. it is a celebration. _ been through. impressed everybody. it is a celebration. we _ been through. impressed everybody. it is a celebration. we were - been through. impressed everybody. it is a celebration. we were just i it is a celebration. we were just saying _ it is a celebration. we were just saying that, a celebration of where she has— saying that, a celebration of where she has got to. by the end of the day we _ she has got to. by the end of the day we will— she has got to. by the end of the day we will get to silverstone with five riders, — day we will get to silverstone with five riders, who are the best team. they— five riders, who are the best team. they have — five riders, who are the best team. they have come through, you could never _ they have come through, you could never have — they have come through, you could never have imagined what these young people _ never have imagined what these young people have been through, just to raise _ people have been through, just to raise awareness for those people who have helped them in their lives and that is— have helped them in their lives and that is what it is about. pasic have helped them in their lives and that is what it is about.— that is what it is about. pasic is the charity _ that is what it is about. pasic is the charity funded _ that is what it is about. pasic is the charity funded by _ that is what it is about. pasic is the charity funded by children i that is what it is about. pasic is | the charity funded by children in need that got you through your incredibly difficult cancer journey. incredibly difficult cancerjourney. having incredibly difficult cancer journey. having their support helped me keep a smile on my face throughout the body stays in hospital or out of hospital. they provided the area and
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time for respite and relaxation. it is every bit like that that helps me and helps many children. to is every bit like that that helps me and helps many children.- and helps many children. to be a child going _ and helps many children. to be a child going through _ and helps many children. to be a child going through all— and helps many children. to be a child going through all that i and helps many children. to be a| child going through all that tough treatment and the fun stuff, really important — treatment and the fun stuff, really important to keep spirits up, quite literally _ important to keep spirits up, quite literally. tell important to keep spirits up, quite literall . , ., , literally. tell us a little bit about the _ literally. tell us a little bit about the route. - literally. tell us a little bit about the route. i- literally. tell us a little bit about the route. i should l literally. tell us a little bit i about the route. i should say, if you go online, if you live in the area, they wanted the tracker on the children in need website and you can see where she is any given moment. go on to the street and give her a round of applause.— round of applause. there is the hos - ital i round of applause. there is the hospital i was _ round of applause. there is the hospital i was in _ round of applause. there is the hospital i was in for _ round of applause. there is the hospital i was in for a _ round of applause. there is the hospital i was in for a while, i l round of applause. there is the l hospital i was in for a while, i am going past franklins gardens, the home of northampton saints. i am a massive rugby fan. starting at my school, which means a lot to me, going past work. going on —— go onto the website and track me.
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going past work. going on -- go onto the website and track me.— the website and track me. these ounu the website and track me. these young riders _ the website and track me. these young riders are _ the website and track me. these young riders are taking - the website and track me. these young riders are taking me i the website and track me. these young riders are taking me to i the website and track me. these | young riders are taking me to see the places— young riders are taking me to see the places that have had such an impact _ the places that have had such an impact in — the places that have had such an impact in their lives. it is very special, — impact in their lives. it is very special, it— impact in their lives. it is very special, it really is.— impact in their lives. it is very special, it really is. let's chat to some people — special, it really is. let's chat to some people while _ special, it really is. let's chat to some people while you - special, it really is. let's chat to some people while you do i special, it really is. let's chat to some people while you do a i special, it really is. let's chat to i some people while you do a small pep talk. i believe this is one of your best friends. he has been telling me about your gcse celebrations just after chemo. they are not going to talk about that on air. what you do want to say is what? i talk about that on air. what you do want to say is what?— want to say is what? i want to say we are beyond — want to say is what? i want to say we are beyond proud _ want to say is what? i want to say we are beyond proud of— want to say is what? i want to say we are beyond proud of you i want to say is what? i want to say we are beyond proud of you and i we are beyond proud of you and everything you have been through. all you _ everything you have been through. all you have done is work to get back— all you have done is work to get back to — all you have done is work to get back to where you are. make everybody's day is better. you go out there — everybody's day is better. you go out there looking to provide people with inspiration in you and everybody else until we can say is good _ everybody else until we can say is good luck. — everybody else until we can say is good luck, you are going to smash it. , ., , ., . �* , good luck, you are going to smash it. get ready to cheer. let's chat to the family- —
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it. get ready to cheer. let's chat to the family. mum, _ it. get ready to cheer. let's chat to the family. mum, dad, i it. get ready to cheer. let's chat i to the family. mum, dad, grandma, auntie stella. let me come over. ian, you made an important point to me about the massive importance of children in need, what is it? charities all over, you don't know when you need the help of a charity until you need the help of a charity. there are so many supported by children in need, notjust pasic, several charities came to her aid and our aid. several charities came to her aid and ouraid. we several charities came to her aid and our aid. we would never want anyone to want to have to need a charity but when they do, they are there. that is why it is so important to give to children in need and make sure those charities are there when you need them. iuntimely are there when you need them. when ou need are there when you need them. when you need them- _ are there when you need them. when you need them. we'll— are there when you need them. when you need them. we'll know _ are there when you need them. when you need them. we'll know everybody is skint at the moment that when you need those charities, even in need them. auntie stella is brilliant, isn't she? ,, , them. auntie stella is brilliant, isn'tshe? ,, , ., . isn't she? she is fantastic. everyone _ isn't she? she is fantastic. everyone at _ isn't she? she is fantastic. everyone at home - isn't she? she is fantastic. everyone at home in i isn't she? she is fantastic. i everyone at home in ireland isn't she? she is fantastic. - everyone at home in ireland sends love and _ everyone at home in ireland sends love and best wishes. go, tabitha.
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we are nearly _ love and best wishes. go, tabitha. we are nearly ready _ love and best wishes. go, tabitha. we are nearly ready to _ love and best wishes. go, tabitha. we are nearly ready to go. - love and best wishes. go, tabitha. we are nearly ready to go. we i love and best wishes. go, tabitha. | we are nearly ready to go. we have pudsey. local dignitaries, good morning, mayor, good morning leader of the council, your message to everybody watching is... donate, donate, donate. _ everybody watching is. .. donate, donate, donate. it— everybody watching is. .. donate, donate, donate. it is— everybody watching is... donate, donate, donate. it is important. l everybody watching is... donate, i donate, donate. it is important. all ofthe donate, donate. it is important. all of the support— donate, donate. it is important. all of the support team _ donate, donate. it is important. all of the support team is _ donate, donate. it is important. all of the support team is here - donate, donate. it is important. all of the support team is here as i donate, donate. it is important. am of the support team is here as well, so proud. come on. i think we are nearly ready to go. are you ready with a chant? go, tabitha. cabaye. are we ready for a countdown? let's start with a count. i'm going to go this way. this is it. fied, four, three, two, one.— this way. this is it. fied, four, three, two, one. let's go. -- five,
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four. three, two, one. let's go. -- five, four- there — three, two, one. let's go. -- five, four. there she _ three, two, one. let's go. -- five, four. there she goes. _ three, two, one. let's go. -- five, four. there she goes. absolutely i four. there she goes. absolutely brilliant. she _ four. there she goes. absolutely brilliant. she is _ four. there she goes. absolutely brilliant. she is a _ four. there she goes. absolutely brilliant. she is a remarkable i four. there she goes. absolutely i brilliant. she is a remarkable young woman. the charity that supports her is equally remarkable and all down to children in need. penny you to children in need. every penny you give, every pound he give make such a difference to people who need it most. well done, kids! so brilliant to see her. we will hand back to you studio and you tell in the studio and you can tell everybody how to donate. that is their best send off of the week that really is. if you'd like to support team rickshaw's efforts and donate to bbc children in need. here's how you can do it.
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this is bbc news. i'm martine croxall, live at westminster, where the race to become the new prime minister and leader of the conservative party is on. the uk will have a new prime minister in place by next friday, after liz truss quit yesterday, barely six weeks into the job. many familar faces are being touted as possible replacements — including former chancellor rishi sunak, and minister penny mordaunt. we'll have reactions throughout the day. there's also speculation borisjohnson could attempt a return to downing street. like cincinnatus, i am returning to my plan and i will be offering this government nothing but the most fervent support.
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