this is bbc news i'm martine croxall. the headlines at five. penny mordaunt has become the first mp to declare she's running to become tory leader, and our next prime minister. but she won't be joined by defence secretary ben wallace — he's ruled himself out. the tory party has to settle down and get on with delivering the mandate it was elected on in 2019 with a massive majority, which is to govern on behalf of the citizens of this country. whoever does want tojoin penny mordaunt in the race — rishi sunak or borisjohnson perhaps — has until monday to find 100 mps to back them. today's other stories: the uk chancellor vows to do anything necessary

to protect the economy with government borrowing up and people shopping less a warning the health and social care system in england is �*gridlocked' and unable to cope with the demand — putting vulnerable people at risk. and, us chess grandmaster hans niemann is suing a rival or at least 100 million dollars for alleged cheating. welcome to bbc news live from westminster. the leader of the house penny mordaunt has become the first to

declare the winner will replace liz truss_ declare the winner will replace liz truss who — declare the winner will replace liz truss who resigned yesterday although she remains in downing street_ although she remains in downing street until the successor is appointed. street until the successor is appointed-— street until the successor is appointed. street until the successor is anointed. ., , , appointed. speaking outside number ten liz truss — appointed. speaking outside number ten liz truss said _ appointed. speaking outside number ten liz truss said that _ appointed. speaking outside number ten liz truss said that she _ appointed. speaking outside number ten liz truss said that she cannot - ten liz truss said that she cannot deliver the mandate on which he was elected. there were now be a fast—track leadership election to decide who will be the new leader of the conservative party and ultimately of course prime minister. as i have been saying in the last couple of hours penny mordaunt has launched her bed. rishi sunak is also widely regarded as a contender. let's take a look at how the contest will work this time. conservative mps have until monday afternoon to nominate the candidate. they need at least 100 nominations. if only one candidate achieves that that they will be from mr on monday afternoon.

if more than one candidate gets at least 100 nominations than there will be a vote by conservative mps depending on the result of that the final decision could be made by conservative party members voting online. the one thing that we know for sure is that the latest dates for sure is that the latest dates for the new permits are to be announced will be next friday. more now from our political correspondent, damian grammaticas. interesting because penny mordaunt and the tallies on how many mps have come out publicly are ready to say who they might support even before any candidates up with them so forward. we were looking at rishi sunak with 60 plus mps already publicly saying that they might back in. borisjohnson perhaps 30 plus, penny mordaunt around 17—18 or so. so when view of this is that maybe

penny mordaunt is looking to try and get out quickly to get her candidacy running to garner votes and to try and settlement votes on her column. before the others get going. she treated her news that she was, she said i am encouraged from support by colleagues who want a fresh start a united party and leadership in the national interest. i am running for the leadership of the conservative party and your premise or to unite our country deliver our pensions and when the next general election. and i think what you can say stands out from that two times she has used united, party, and unite our country. so perhaps there is a hint of how she is trained to position yourself. if you have got boris johnson supporters urging him to try and stand. but very divisive among other members of the conservative

party. you have rishi sunak who has a large body of support obviously, but many of the borisjohnson supporters do not favour rishi sunak. so penny mordaunt perhaps trying to position herself in the middle and drop prep support for the borisjohnson side before he has even been tempted to declare. so already up and running and this will shape the dynamics of the race. fine shape the dynamics of the race. one or two saying — shape the dynamics of the race. one or two saying early on that they are not interested in standing amongst them the defence secretary ben wallace. �* ~ ., them the defence secretary ben wallace. �* ~ ., ., them the defence secretary ben wallace. �* ., , wallace. ben wallace was of course back in the summer _ wallace. ben wallace was of course back in the summer and _ wallace. ben wallace was of course back in the summer and again - wallace. ben wallace was of course back in the summer and again nowl back in the summer and again now being taught that duly make about as a potential candidate. he chose not to stand again today you have to really want to be the job to be prime minister and he clearly doesn't. so he was asked who would he might support. and this is what he said. in 2019 he won an election with a huge majority. he was legitimately sent into parliament

as prime minister based on the vote of the whole electorate. not just on tory members, notjust on members of parliament. that he got a mandate. that is an important thing for all of us to bear in mind. we will see what happens. of course unity is also important, i will be looking for how the candidates are prepared to bring the party together because without unity we cannot govern either. the hee hee was talking about there was borisjohnson of course. the two go back a long way. ben wallace was an old political friend, go back a long way. ben wallace was an old politicalfriend, ally go back a long way. ben wallace was an old political friend, ally and johnson ran his original attempt at leadership after the brexit referendum. that obviously failed forjohnson but mr wallace was rewarded with defence secretaryjob. leaning towards borisjohnson but talking about that word unity some to unify the party is that the amended the conservative party is divided by many different factions and splits in different ways.

interesting to, the former chancellor decided to in the last few minutes saying that he would back rishi sunak. he has the leadership our country needs and the values are party needs to. some more mps pledging support as we former candidates. �* , . ~ mps pledging support as we former candidates. �* , ., ~ ., ., ., ~' mps pledging support as we former candidates. �* , ., ~ ., ., candidates. let's take a look at that again- _ candidates. let's take a look at that again. because _ candidates. let's take a look at that again. because it - candidates. let's take a look at that again. because it has - candidates. let's take a look at that again. because it has only| candidates. let's take a look at - that again. because it has onlyjust p°pped that again. because it has onlyjust popped up. this is from sajid javid... the words stability, unity being

used a lot by everybody we speak to. at the bar is higher in this contest so we have to have 100 nominations to make it onto the ballot paper and the question is, who will reach that level? �* ., ,., ~' the question is, who will reach that level? �* ., ~ level? and the reason i think those words are being _ level? and the reason i think those words are being used, _ level? and the reason i think those words are being used, stability- words are being used, stability unity and the rest, is because of their obvious lack of it for weeks now. and a sore lack of it. so candidates, mps saying that is what they're striving for but it will be difficult when already the divisions, different candidates from different wings putting themselves forward. who might reach the number? rishi sunak pass the number back in summer so you expect that he still might be able to hold onto that sport. penny mordauntjust passed it. ithink sport. penny mordauntjust passed it. i think she had 105 in the last round of voting in the summer so she may well be expecting to try and hold onto those. the big question around borisjohnson, clearly is many mps like him. and those who

like him say that they think he is a proven electorate record and getting messages to constituents and getting them to supportjohnson. but many mps absolutely aghast by that. they view the case that happened in the party, the investigations that are still going on by parliament into borisjohnson potentially lying to parliament lost by elections they don't view him as a unifier at all and think back to the plunging poll ratings as before the summer. so for many of them they are not seeing the return of borisjohnson. but clearly he still has supporters within the party who are pushing for him to enter the race.— party who are pushing for him to enter the race. ., ~ , ., , .

enter the race. thank you very much. with an overview— enter the race. thank you very much. with an overview there _ enter the race. thank you very much. with an overview there from - with an overview there from westminster. let's go to south derbyshire and talk to heather wheeler mp, who is backing penny mordaunt for pm. the first person to state formally and clearly that she wants to be on the ballot on monday. why do you think she is the best person? she has not think she is the best person? she has got the _ think she is the best person? she has got the most experience. she has been a _ has got the most experience. she has been a minister nine times in eight different_ been a minister nine times in eight different departments. people try and gloss over that, i do not know why _ and gloss over that, i do not know why i thihk— and gloss over that, i do not know why. i think it is incredibly important to a depth of her ministerial career is out there front— ministerial career is out there front and _ ministerial career is out there front and centre. i think she actually— front and centre. i think she actually reaches the parts that other— actually reaches the parts that other evil don't because she won a labour_ other evil don't because she won a labour seat— other evil don't because she won a labour seat and she has helped that labour— labour seat and she has helped that labour seat and she has helped that labour seat since 2010. increasing the majority each time. and if you talk to— the majority each time. and if you talk to any— the majority each time. and if you talk to any of the labour mps she is the candidate they do not want in office~ _ the candidate they do not want in office. and we are in this game to win elections. she wants to stand

again— win elections. she wants to stand again and — win elections. she wants to stand again and delivered the 2019 manifesto and i think she will do a grandchild — manifesto and i think she will do a grandchild. to manifesto and i think she will do a urandchild. ., ., ., , grandchild. to what extent does it taint her because _ grandchild. to what extent does it taint her because she _ grandchild. to what extent does it taint her because she was - grandchild. to what extent does it taint her because she was part - grandchild. to what extent does it taint her because she was part ofl taint her because she was part of liz truss government. it taint her because she was part of liz truss government.— liz truss government. it was difficult it — liz truss government. it was difficult it has _ liz truss government. it was difficult it has been - liz truss government. it was difficult it has been a - liz truss government. it was difficult it has been a painfulj liz truss government. it was i difficult it has been a painful 45 days— difficult it has been a painful 45 days and — difficult it has been a painful 45 days and i— difficult it has been a painful 45 days and i feel incredibly sorry for liz. days and i feel incredibly sorry for lil she _ days and i feel incredibly sorry for liz. she wasjust days and i feel incredibly sorry for liz. she was just getting days and i feel incredibly sorry for liz. she wasjust getting going and a wonderful queen died and we had ten days— a wonderful queen died and we had ten days of— a wonderful queen died and we had ten days of dealing with that and the whole of the country was in morning — the whole of the country was in morning and getting the momentum goihgm _ morning and getting the momentum goihgm |t— morning and getting the momentum auoin . .. . , morning and getting the momentum oiiin,_, ., . going... it was her economic olicies going... it was her economic policies that _ going... it was her economic policies that were _ going... it was her economic policies that were at - going... it was her economic policies that were at fault i going... it was her economic. policies that were at fault that's what caused the turmoil was in it? but everyone has said that the picture — but everyone has said that the picture wasn't wrong how do you relate _ picture wasn't wrong how do you relate pitch when you can't actually be out _ relate pitch when you can't actually be out there playing because the country — be out there playing because the country is — be out there playing because the country is in morning. but with respect — country is in morning. but with respect i — country is in morning. but with respect i don't want to talk about liz, unfortunately her 45 days are over~ _ liz, unfortunately her 45 days are over~ i_ liz, unfortunately her 45 days are over~ i wish — liz, unfortunately her 45 days are over. i wish it weren't but what

about _ over. i wish it weren't but what about now _ over. i wish it weren't but what about now is the future of our country — about now is the future of our country and the reason why penny mordaunt— country and the reason why penny mordaunt will be the better candidate going forward, she is absolutely the unifier of our party. anyone _ absolutely the unifier of our party. anyone that has seen her at the dispatch— anyone that has seen her at the dispatch box knows that she can do that not _ dispatch box knows that she can do that. not with her eyes sharp because _ that. not with her eyes sharp because she shows full interest and love for— because she shows full interest and love for the job in the chamber but the way that she can bring people around _ the way that she can bring people around her— the way that she can bring people around her based on the 2019 manifesto. around her based on the 2019 manifeste— around her based on the 2019 manifesto. , ., , ., ~ ., around her based on the 2019 manifesto. , ., ~ ., ., manifesto. tells what you know of her economic _ manifesto. tells what you know of her economic ideas _ manifesto. tells what you know of her economic ideas of _ manifesto. tells what you know of her economic ideas of how - manifesto. tells what you know of her economic ideas of how she - manifesto. tells what you know of i her economic ideas of how she would address the cost crisis for example. because once we have gotten over the latest drummer within the conservative party there is a country desperate for ideas —— drama. country desperate for ideas -- drama. , ,.., , ., drama. the rules, fiscal rules that were laid down _ drama. the rules, fiscal rules that were laid down in _ drama. the rules, fiscal rules that were laid down in effect _ drama. the rules, fiscal rules that were laid down in effect over i drama. the rules, fiscal rules that were laid down in effect over the i were laid down in effect over the last few— were laid down in effect over the last few days byjeremy hunt are sound _ last few days byjeremy hunt are

sound ideas. i personally love the idea of— sound ideas. i personally love the idea of going to growth. because i think— idea of going to growth. because i think to _ idea of going to growth. because i think to use an old—fashioned phrase, — think to use an old—fashioned phrase, when the waves rise high all of the _ phrase, when the waves rise high all of the ships— phrase, when the waves rise high all of the ships rise with the end that is what _ of the ships rise with the end that is what i think we ought to do. south — is what i think we ought to do. south derbyshire is one of the most amazing growth areas in the whole of the country — amazing growth areas in the whole of the country. before coded our unemployment was 0.8% and that is 'ust unemployment was 0.8% and that is just incredible. foran unemployment was 0.8% and that is just incredible. for an old mining area _ just incredible. for an old mining area so — just incredible. for an old mining area so we _ just incredible. for an old mining area. so we are at the forefront of those _ area. so we are at the forefront of those sorts — area. so we are at the forefront of those sorts of towns around the country — those sorts of towns around the country that left behind in places we have — country that left behind in places we have shown here that you can absolutely — we have shown here that you can absolutely turn the economy around, and that _ absolutely turn the economy around, and that i_ absolutely turn the economy around, and that i think will help any going forward _ and that i think will help any going forward. ~ . ., ., ., forward. what about the idea of boris johnson _ forward. what about the idea of boris johnson coming _ forward. what about the idea of boris johnson coming back? i. forward. what about the idea of i boris johnson coming back? i love orous boris johnson coming back? i love porous debates _ boris johnson coming back? i love porous debates we _ boris johnson coming back? i love porous debates we have _ boris johnson coming back? i love porous debates we have been i borisjohnson coming back? i love porous debates we have been friends -- boris— porous debates we have been friends

—— borisjohnson. fora long porous debates we have been friends —— borisjohnson. for a long time. porous debates we have been friends —— borisjohnson. fora long time. i don't think— —— borisjohnson. fora long time. i don't think this is the right time i think— don't think this is the right time i think you — don't think this is the right time i think you should look after her make a bit of— think you should look after her make a bit of money come back at the right— a bit of money come back at the right time. what i would love is for him to— right time. what i would love is for him to say— right time. what i would love is for him to say i— right time. what i would love is for him to say i want to support a unity candidate and i went to support penny— candidate and i went to support penny mordaunt. he candidate and i went to support penny mordaunt.— candidate and i went to support penny mordaunt. candidate and i went to support penn mordaunt. , , ., ~ penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still ot penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that — penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that job _ penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that job to _ penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that job to do? _ penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that job to do? he _ penny mordaunt. he is still an mp he still got that job to do? he will i still got thatjob to do? he will has been around has he? i still got that job to do? he will has been around has he? i was in around the _ has been around has he? i was in around the week— has been around has he? i was in around the week before - has been around has he? i was in around the week before but stuff| around the week before but stuff ha ens. ~ . ., ,. around the week before but stuff hauens.~ ., ., ., happens. what would you say to the idea of rishi — happens. what would you say to the idea of rishi sunak— happens. what would you say to the idea of rishi sunak being _ happens. what would you say to the idea of rishi sunak being the - happens. what would you say to the idea of rishi sunak being the next i idea of rishi sunak being the next prime minister given everyone is in trying to invoke this spirit of unity getting behind everyone who wins. ~ ., .., , .,, unity getting behind everyone who wins. ., , ., ,, wins. well of course. i was talking to some political _ wins. well of course. i was talking to some political students - wins. well of course. i was talking to some political students at i to some political students at nottingham university today and i have been a party member for 47

years _ have been a party member for 47 years and — have been a party member for 47 years. and it is my party i don't want _ years. and it is my party i don't want anyone ripping my party apart so that— want anyone ripping my party apart so that is— want anyone ripping my party apart so that is why i do want a unity candidate. i have been a whip twice, a minister— candidate. i have been a whip twice, a minister three times so that is five times, — a minister three times so that is five times, with respect to rishi sunak— five times, with respect to rishi sunak three times. so i really do know— sunak three times. so i really do know how— sunak three times. so i really do know how the party works and how our friends _ know how the party works and how our friends in _ know how the party works and how our friends in parliament in civil service _ friends in parliament in civil service work. and i want that stability— service work. and i want that stability that i genuinely think that stability will come with penny mordaunt. . ~ that stability will come with penny mordaunt. ., ,, , ., that stability will come with penny mordaunt. . ~' , ., ., that stability will come with penny mordaunt. ., ,, , ., ., , ., mordaunt. thank you for your time this afternoon. _ let's talk now to sir bob neill, conservative mp for bromley and chislehurst. thank you very much forjoining us. you are very much against the idea of borisjohnson trying to make a comeback why? i of boris johnson trying to make a comeback why?— comeback why? i have been a friend of boris johnson _ comeback why? i have been a friend of boris johnson in _ comeback why? i have been a friend of boris johnson in the _ comeback why? i have been a friend of boris johnson in the past - comeback why? i have been a friend of boris johnson in the past and i of borisjohnson in the past and have worked with him in the past and i concluded earlier in the year and i'm afraid that there were questions

as to his conduct and credibility which meant it was right for him to step down. and i agree with heather it is not appropriate forjohnson to consider running until those issues are resolved. there are still a parliamentary investigation so i think you would be better for johnson to hold his hand and with those matters are cleared up then he can think about his options. and thatis can think about his options. and that is not going to be sufficient we need to get on with the job and have an incredible leader and prime minister in place now. and because we are placing a fundamental and profound economic crisis i think rishi sunak is the person with the strongest economic record incur ability to get us through that. hagar ability to get us through that. how im ortant ability to get us through that. how important is _ ability to get us through that. how important is that _ ability to get us through that. how important is that you think mps themselves resolve this conscious without it having being put to the party membership? i without it having being put to the party membership?— without it having being put to the party membership? i have had party members in — party membership? i have had party members in my _ party membership? i have had party members in my own _ party membership? i have had party members in my own constituency i members in my own constituency expressing different views. so some would like to have a vote, others

have said you know the candidates best you have to work with them, you get on with it. the rules provide a possibility to go to the membership, if we can come to a conclusion swiftly than not is the most important thing. we can't let that hang around. the important thing. we can't let that hang around-— hang around. the installation of jeremy hunt _ hang around. the installation of jeremy hunt as _ hang around. the installation of jeremy hunt as chancellor i hang around. the installation of jeremy hunt as chancellor has l hang around. the installation of i jeremy hunt as chancellor has seemed to have come to some of turbulence, but to what extent you think it is important or influential you on who he chooses to back? mr important or influential you on who he chooses to back?— he chooses to back? mr hunt is a significant player _ he chooses to back? mr hunt is a significant player within - he chooses to back? mr hunt is a significant player within the i he chooses to back? mr hunt is a significant player within the party and he has done a brilliantjob since he has commences chancellor. he and rishi sunak are on the same economic page. it was him who was warning of the risks of unfunded tax cuts and how that would hurt the economic credibility with the markets and that is what happened. he called it right and he would work well with mr hunt and we can turn things around and i'm confident we

can do so between now and the next general election.— can do so between now and the next general election. wednesday evening sou i ht general election. wednesday evening sought disturbing _ general election. wednesday evening sought disturbing behaviour - general election. wednesday evening sought disturbing behaviour party i sought disturbing behaviour party indiscipline in the house of commons. to what extent do you believe your colleagues in the conservative party realise that the country has had enough of these melodramas and they want a grown up as some people describe it to get on and deal with the massive economic issues we are facing.— and deal with the massive economic issues we are facing. wednesday with a stressful time. _ issues we are facing. wednesday with a stressfultime. i— issues we are facing. wednesday with a stressful time. i did _ issues we are facing. wednesday with a stressful time. i did not _ issues we are facing. wednesday with a stressful time. i did not witness i a stressful time. i did not witness the details of what happened but maybe that was an indication of people being stressed. but i agree we looking at the opinion polls rishi in the general public is the most favourite candidate to take over and that is because they want us to do this quickly and to have someone who's got credibility and has got a reputation for integrity and telling people straightly, what theissues and telling people straightly, what the issues are and the challenges that we face. he did that last time

and i think he is in the place to do it as prime minister this time. hagar it as prime minister this time. how likel is it it as prime minister this time. how likely is it though, _ it as prime minister this time. how likely is it though, whoever wins, if there is more strike within the party as we have seen as of late that it makes the general election before the next two—year mark, when the extent of this term, even more likely that will happen to happen sooner. i likely that will happen to happen sooner. ., �* ~ ., ., sooner. i don't think a general election at _ sooner. i don't think a general election at the _ sooner. i don't think a general election at the moment i sooner. i don't think a general election at the moment would j sooner. i don't think a general- election at the moment would achieve the stability that we want. and i think the risk of a labour government would do that either. but i accept that we have to restore faith and trust both economically and in our conduct and behaviour. and i think that is why rishi is to do that. he is part of a team of 2019 and he is in the position to deliver that 2019 manifesto. and we have two years still to do that. we

have two years still to do that. we have had interruptions with the pandemic as my colleague heather referred to but i think we can now get on with that with rishi who knows his way around the financial world knows his way around parliament and also has put the plan. he sent it out in detail last time. we could control inflation which is the top priority, because inflation corrodes and undermines everything and it eats peoples living standards and of the poorest hardest. i want us to get unified, and pulled together as a party on that middle—of—the—road ticket that has always worked for us in the past. and i think rishi's responsible approach would get the under control. then we could start opening up the economy and start making some of the changes and reforms which i did not disagree with that liz was looking at but were lost because of the unfunded tax cuts. then we can take those

opportunities that britain has and unite together. and i think he has the credibility and interpersonal skills to do that.— the credibility and interpersonal skills to do that. thank you. that's all from westminster _ skills to do that. thank you. that's all from westminster at _ skills to do that. thank you. that's all from westminster at the - skills to do that. thank you. that's l all from westminster at the moment i think you'll be back with us in 15 or 20 mins or so but for the moment back to the studio. the time is now 21 minutes past five and we will take a look at some of the other major stories here on bbc news this evening. thames valley police say the body of leah croucher who went missing in 2019 has now been formally identified. 0fficers launched a murder inquiry afterfinding human remains in a loft space at a house in milton keynes, last week. joining me now is our correspondent, jon donnison. remind people about leah croucher,

just a teenager when she went missing. just a teenager when she went missini. ., ., . .,, , missing. leah croucher was 'ust 19 when she disappeared i missing. leah croucher was 'ust 19 when she disappeared in i missing. leah croucher wasjust 19 when she disappeared in february| missing. leah croucher wasjust 19 i when she disappeared in february 29. she was described as quiet and thoughtful young woman all week people have been laying floral tributes here along the road outside the house where that body was found. just over a week ago. now the house itself, is actually belongs to a family that lives overseas it is thought it has been vacant for three years but there is a prime suspect in this case according to police. and that is a man called neal maxwell. he took his own life in milton keynes just a couple of months after leah croucher disappeared. but he had the keys to that house, he was a handyman who was working on that house and this was working on that house and this was a house that leah croucher walked past every day on the way to

work. it isjust walked past every day on the way to work. it is just half a mile or so away from where she was last seen. and neal maxwell was also a convicted sex offender who was actually on the run from police at the time of leah croucher�*s disappearance. so this news is awful moment after what must have been a terrible three and half years for leah croucher�*s family and friends. please at the moment say neil maxwell is the only suspect in this murder investigation although they are determined to find out exactly what happened to leah croucher. thank you our correspondent there in milton keynes. the care quality commission is warning that the health and social care system in england is gridlocked. the regulator says it's seen a significant rise in the number of people stuck in hospital because there isn't any social care provision for them when they leave, either at home or in the community.

let's speak to nadra ahmed, who's executive chairman of the national care association, which represents small and medium sized care providers in england. good evening to you. a lot of talk in the cqc report of lack of staffing. does this report ring true to you from your experiences? absolutely, i think the report tells it as it is. it is nothing new to us, those of us who work in social care have been chatting about it for quite some time. it is good to see the regulator actually acknowledging it. and putting it into print. the important thing is that we use that term gridlock again, they have come up term gridlock again, they have come up with a term that explains what is happening. and the gridlock is, because we are not able to support our nhs colleagues, the social care

sector is holding the keys of the solution. if we can sort out social care and begin investigate then we will unlock it. but care and begin investigate then we will unlock it.— will unlock it. but there are some extraordinary _ will unlock it. but there are some extraordinary observations in i will unlock it. but there are some extraordinary observations in this j extraordinary observations in this report for example, an unprecedented number of care workers in the south east of the country resigning in may and june because of two fuel costs. so getting into the nuts and bolts of why there aren't enough staff in the system. so, from your experience is this fundamentally about pay or are care workers just not paid enough to be incentivised to join the workers? enough to be incentivised to 'oin the workers?�* enough to be incentivised to 'oin the werkerst�* enough to be incentivised to 'oin the workers? . , , ., the workers? ultimately it is about the workers? ultimately it is about the fundini the workers? ultimately it is about the funding model _ the workers? ultimately it is about the funding model that _ the workers? ultimately it is about the funding model that is - the workers? ultimately it is about the funding model that is being i the workers? ultimately it is about l the funding model that is being used by central government through the authorities and funding social care. and of course what we do get is, very clear pathways about raising the pay of our staff and we are

really happy with that and we would actually like to raise it much more. but we are not funded to do so. so if we use an example, from earlier this year, where we know the national living wage just over 6%, 6.5% what we then found is that local authorities were only supporting social care by an uplift of about 2—3% on average. some did get 7% but most did not. and that then tells us is that we have all of then tells us is that we have all of the other cost—of—living issues, but we can't then offer our staff that sort of uplift which they deserve. and actually they deserve a lot more because it is a highly skilled role. but what we have is economics that are just not working. we keep talking about this, talking about reform. we are in the middle of an

reform. we are in the middle of an reform which may never come off. we have done some hunting exercise and we don't know what will happen with that. this is two decades of broken empty promises from governments. what we found with the mandatory vaccination fiasco is that we lost 50,000 staff. what we found with brexit is we lost staff because our european colleagues decided to go back. but then there is no tangible solution to creating a workforce, a domestic workforce who feel confident about working in social care and that they would be rewarded. i care and that they would be rewarded-— care and that they would be rewarded. ~ , , rewarded. i think viewers listening to ou rewarded. i think viewers listening to you would _ rewarded. i think viewers listening to you would be _ rewarded. i think viewers listening to you would be forgiven _ rewarded. i think viewers listening to you would be forgiven for- to you would be forgiven for thinking, yes we have heard this time after time so when you put all of those points that you have made eloquently there to government, politicians you say, look here is

the solution. this is what we need to do otherwise gridlock in never ends apart from anything else what has been said to you? latte ends apart from anything else what has been said to you?— ends apart from anything else what has been said to you? we always get iromised has been said to you? we always get promised short _ has been said to you? we always get promised short short _ has been said to you? we always get promised short short fixes _ has been said to you? we always get promised short short fixes of - has been said to you? we always get promised short short fixes of money | promised short short fixes of money and i think that is one of the biggest risks that we have. so what government tends to do is, through covert this happen, there were conversations about how much money to be released to social care. so all we really got was an infection prevention control find it it was a small funds that came our way we were extremely grateful for it because it made a huge difference between covid will stop but of course when that fund ends, then what happens is the expectations have been raised. so what that was doing was enabling us to pay staff, if they got covert they could recover properly and come back to work. but of course when the fun stop we can't continue to fund that. the government would say that it is

putting money into recruitment and training of staff are you saying that you just don't see evidence of that? that you 'ust don't see evidence of that? ~ , ., . ., ., . that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts — that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts of _ that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts of bits _ that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts of bits of _ that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts of bits of money - that? we see no evidence of that. we hear all sorts of bits of money that i hear all sorts of bits of money that are going through. there was a recruitment campaign launched in the middle of covid i think it was. a campaign that focused on the nhs and we actually had to force them to talk about social care as well. we have not seen any results from that particular campaign we don't know what happened with that. another campaign launched and i asked for the staff that showed us that that campaign would have an impact because this is money that is going out, campaigns are not cheap. we want to be able to do tangible things and one of those tangible things and one of those tangible things would be, to acknowledge the staff, to value them and enable us to pay them properly. that's what we want to do. why can't we be seen in the same light as health care

assistance in hospitals. 0ur the same light as health care assistance in hospitals. our staff are doing a job that is akin to that or more. and i think that is important, if you are in a hospital setting a nurse will give you your medication. in a care home setting we train our staff administering medication. it is a really important difference. and get our stuff get paid less because we have, average local authority fees of £650 which is less than £4 an hour. and i know that people talk about £1500 a week that people talk about £1500 a week thatis that people talk about £1500 a week that is being charged. there are corporate services that you charge that, but 82% of the sectors small to medium providers, they have put their own investment into that business. and they are working to make it happen. energy costs, what

will happen with that. if someone was paying £1000 a month and is now going to pay £9,000 a month that money has got to come from somewhere. thank you very much. more to come in the — somewhere. thank you very much. more to come in the next _ somewhere. thank you very much. more to come in the next half—hour but now the weather. hello. quite changeable on the weather front today, a mixture of sunshine and showers. here is the satellite picture and low pressure through picture and low pressure the course of this evening the through the course of this evening the showers will be moving northwards to effect parts of northern ireland and scotland but there will be showers elsewhere to and in the early hours of saturday morning the weather would tend to clear up across most parts of england and wales. there will be some mist an workaround i think first thing and very mild in the morning. temperatures will range from 10 degrees to about 14. so

those are the early morning temperatures on saturday. close to what we it would expected during the daytime. for saturday itself, plenty of fine weather across england and wales. more cloud for northern ireland and scotland and showers for morning onwards which will cleanse it clear for the north. morning onwards which will cleanse it clearfor the north. later morning onwards which will cleanse it clear for the north. later in the afternoon some heavy showers possible in the south—west in england and wales. bye—bye. hello this is bbc news with jane hill. the headlines... penny mordaunt has become the first mp to declare she's running to become tory leader, and our next prime minister. the mandate it was elected on in 2019 with a massive majority, which is to govern on behalf of the citizens of this country. the uk chancellor vows

to do anything necessary to protect the economy, with government borrowing up and people shopping less. a warning that the health and social care system in england is "gridlocked" and unable to cope with the demand — putting vulnerable people at risk. also this our... could it be checkmate in the chest cheating scandal? teenage grand master hans meaning is suing their rival for $100 million for damaging his reputation. that is coming up closer to the top of the hour. sport and for a full round—up, from the bbc sport centre, here's lizzy. the second round of group matches at the rugby league world cup get underway tonight with scotland facing a huge game against tournament favourites — australia. scotland have played once so far when were thrashed by italy — and they need one victory from their remaining two games

to reach the knock out stages. 0ur rugby league world cup reporter adam wild is in coventry where the game kicks off in a couple of hours time — and adam — not wishing to be negative, but i assume this game is not expected to provide the scot�*s with that one victory required? yeah, there could be some really testing conditions here this evening. i can tell you, it has been hammering it down all afternoon here in coventry. day seven of the rugby league world cup. the eighth different venue we visited and it's the first outside the traditional northern heartland of the sport. we are here for australia again scotland, and as you are will have their work cut out if they are to get anything at all from this match. that game on sunday against italy which was that heavy defeat really seeing as they are one big chance to get something from this competition.

australia, well, remember the reigning champions. they won eight of their last nine rugby league world cup. they are, as always, the team to beat. packed full of superstars. scotland really have their work cut out. australia are expected to win, they are expected to win well, but given the conditions, stranger things have happened, ijust can't conditions, stranger things have happened, i just can't think of many. happened, i 'ust can't think of man . ., ., ., ., , , happened, i 'ust can't think of man. ., ., ., ., , , ., many. the tournament organisers have had a bit of stick, _ many. the tournament organisers have had a bit of stick, haven't _ many. the tournament organisers have had a bit of stick, haven't they, - had a bit of stick, haven't they, because of the ticket sales not being as good as they hoped. what are you hearing about tonight's match? and they sold many tickets for its? ~ , ., .,, match? and they sold many tickets for its? ~ , ., ., , ., for its? well, they are hoping for around 17,000 _ for its? well, they are hoping for around 17,000 tickets _ for its? well, they are hoping for around 17,000 tickets sold i for its? well, they are hoping for around 17,000 tickets sold for i for its? well, they are hoping for. around 17,000 tickets sold for this evening, which would be the second—highest crowd of this tournament so far. after that england game. there were some disappointing crowds, particularly last sunday then on monday at doncaster. the organisers have been very bullish. they say they are not going to discount tickets. i've been speaking to the chairman of the

rugby league world cup. you can see that interview on sportsday and around in our�*s time. qm. that interview on sportsday and around in our's time. ok, adam, thank you _ around in our's time. ok, adam, thank you for— around in our's time. ok, adam, thank you for reporting _ around in our's time. ok, adam, thank you for reporting press i around in our's time. ok, adam, l thank you for reporting press from there in coventry. 0nto some tennis news today and the two time grand slam champion simona halep has been provisionally suspended afterfailing a drugs test at the us open. the 31 year old romanian, who won the french open in 2018. and wimbleon in 2019, was knocked out in the first round at flushing meadows. she tested positive for roxadustat, a drug used to treat anaemia. it its treated as performance enhancing because it boosts oxygen levels. halep cut her season short last month saying she needs nose surgery to correct breathing problems. ireland have reached the super 12's stage of cricket's t20 world cup after stunning the two time champions west indies with a 9 wicket win. it was a winner—takes—all match in hobart, windies won the toss and batted first, but were restricted to 146 for 5. gareth delany taking a career best 3 for 16. ireland chased down their target fairly comfortably, thanks to their opener paul stirling,

who was unbeaten on 66 at the end. hit the winning runs. so joy for ireland, who've made the super 12's afghanistan and sri lanka. a lot of emotion, because of the long 12 months of trying to find out how we want to play this game and its work sometimes, it has worked other times, its work sometimes, it has worked othertimes, but its work sometimes, it has worked other times, but in today against west indies and certainly as a senior player, everyone has gone about it. scotland are heading home though after losing to zimbabwe by five wickets. 0pener george munsey top scored with 54 but they only reached 132 for 6. zimbabwe started slowly, craig ervine made 58 before he was caught. but they still made it home

with plenty to spare, a five wicket win, and they will play in the super 12s for the first time. that was all the sport for now. now we are back in westminster. lizzie, thank you very much. welcome back to a slightly drizzly westminster. penny mordaunt has confirmed she is standing in the conservative leadership contest to replace liz truss as prime minister. i'm joined now by george eustice, conservative mp for camborne and redruth. welcome to the bbc news channel. penny mourdant is the only presence so far to have declared, you would like to be hearing confirmation from rishi sunak, i believe, why? weill. like to be hearing confirmation from rishi sunak, i believe, why?- rishi sunak, i believe, why? well, i think rishi sunak— rishi sunak, i believe, why? well, i think rishi sunak has _ rishi sunak, i believe, why? well, i think rishi sunak has got _ rishi sunak, i believe, why? well, i think rishi sunak has got the i think rishi sunak has got the judgment that we need in a prime minister during these quite difficult times. he's got experience

of the economy, i think, a lot of these warnings that were made during these warnings that were made during the last conservative leadership contest about the risks of underfunded tax promises and borrowing more money when the international markets are quite fragile proved to be completely right. and ijust think to get through these difficult times, we need someone who is calm and do as thejudgment to get need someone who is calm and do as the judgment to get these decisions right. i think rishi sunak has demonstrated he can do that and he's got the experience having been in cabinet and got the experience having been in cabinetand in got the experience having been in cabinet and in the treasury for some time. ~., , , .,, cabinet and in the treasury for some time. , , ., ., time. many people would point to the fact that when — time. many people would point to the fact that when he _ time. many people would point to the fact that when he was _ time. many people would point to the fact that when he was chancellor, i fact that when he was chancellor, we were burdened with the greatest amount of taxation in 70 years, which, for some people, it is not what conservatism is all about. how would you answer that?— would you answer that? well, conservatism _ would you answer that? well, conservatism is _ would you answer that? well, conservatism is about - would you answer that? well, conservatism is about sound l would you answer that? well, i conservatism is about sound money, it's about balancing the books. it's about making sure you are notjust borrowing money endlessly without any plan to pay it back, and to be

fair to rishi sunak, we have been through some extraordinary challenges as a country, the whole world has, in particular dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. where had we not acted to put in that furlough scheme, millions of people would've lost their jobs. furlough scheme, millions of people would've lost theirjobs. thousands of thousands of businesses would have gone bankrupt if we hadn't put in place a support package that we did. 0bviously in place a support package that we did. obviously to deal with that extraordinary crisis of the pandemic, to make sure that the economy didn't completely follow her to him it was necessary to borrow money. everyone understands that. but having borrowed that many, there is an imperative to work out how you're going to study the finances and start to reduce the deficit. that is what rishi sunak was starting to do. that meant some spending restraints in some areas and a few tax rises and others in order to bridge the gap, and i think everyone recognised that that is necessary once you have been to the type of thing that we have been through in the pandemic. abs, type of thing that we have been through in the pandemic. a pull out this afternoon has _

through in the pandemic. a pull out this afternoon has shown _ through in the pandemic. a pull out this afternoon has shown or- through in the pandemic. a pull out i this afternoon has shown or suggests that just over this afternoon has shown or suggests thatjust over half of britons would be unhappy to see borisjohnson return as prime minister. to what extent do you think a pull like that should deter him from throwing his hat into the ring? i should deter him from throwing his hat into the ring?— hat into the ring? i was loyalto boris johnson _ hat into the ring? i was loyalto boris johnson to _ hat into the ring? i was loyalto boris johnson to the _ hat into the ring? i was loyalto boris johnson to the very i hat into the ring? i was loyalto boris johnson to the very end. | hat into the ring? i was loyalto} boris johnson to the very end. i borisjohnson to the very end. i wasn't one of those ministers who resigned from his government in the last day, although, roughly half of his government did do that. for me, i think the reality is two months on, it is very difficult to see a route back where he could unite the party. i think to be honest the reason he resigned injuly is roughly two thirds of conservative mps were ready to vote against him in a vote of no—confidence. it is quite hard to see how he could put it back together and unite the party by returning now. so for me, although i like borisjohnson, he's got many strengths. that's why i remained loyal to him until the end,

the circumstances under which he was forced to leave and the fact he lost the confidence of so many mps means it's quite difficult to see how he could unify the party whereas rishi sunak has got a very strong base within the party. he got way more votes than anybody else among mps in the last leadership contest, and i think he could galvanise the party together again. think he could galvanise the party together again-— together again. there is also that reli . ious together again. there is also that religious committee _ together again. there is also that religious committee investigation thatis religious committee investigation that is still ongoing. penny mordant has said that she would like to appear on the ballots on monday. in the interests of moving forward and getting behind whoever might lead your party and the country, what are her merits? i your party and the country, what are her merits?— her merits? i will support her to add this election. _ her merits? i will support her to add this election. there - her merits? i will support her to add this election. there are - her merits? i will support her to | add this election. there are good candidates. borisjohnson has strengths, penny mourdant is articulate and has got some strengths. i think at the moment, we need to be related with experience and experience of dealing with the

economy, and i think that is rishi sunak. you need somebody who has got the judgment sunak. you need somebody who has got thejudgment in the sunak. you need somebody who has got the judgment in the experience and that very high level. if penny mourdant has had a couple of cabinet jobs briefly, but probably hasn't quite got the same degree of experience. i like tanny. she's articulate, she's got strengths. i think of the challenges we have, rishi sunak is the best candidate. how confident are you that your party can stop all the histrionics and hysterics that we have seen of late, and assure the country that we are in safe hands for what is likely to be a very difficult winter. i am to be a very difficult winter. i am confident the _ to be a very difficult winter. i am confident the party _ to be a very difficult winter. i am confident the party can - to be a very difficult winter. i —n confident the party can come together if whoever wins this leadership contest really puts the work into pulling different strands of the parliamentary party back together. one of the great mistakes that liz truss made other than the many budget which had disastrous consequences for the money markets, she made no attempt to having one to

bring together the wider conservative family. those are the only jobs conservative family. those are the onlyjobs part of her campaign. that comes unstuck because theyjust haven'tjelled the party back together. i know that rishi sunak won't do that. if rishi sunak wins, he will be reaching out to every part of the conservative party and trying to pull it together as a single unified forest so that we can actually get out there and tackle some of the big challenges that the country faces. some of the big challenges that the country faces-_ some of the big challenges that the country faces. thank you very much for talkin: country faces. thank you very much for talking to _ country faces. thank you very much for talking to us. _ country faces. thank you very much for talking to us. thank _ country faces. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you - country faces. thank you very much for talking to us. thank you very - for talking to us. thank you very much. so it has the reaction been? we can hear now from our correspondent, chris page, instrument in belfast. there are now two questions hanging over politics in northern ireland. he will be the prime minister by next friday and number two, will northern ireland be heading into an

election next friday. not a general election, at least not yet, but an election, at least not yet, but an election to the devolved assembly. to go back a little bit, northern ireland hasn't had a fully functioning devolved government since february and the democratic unionist party says it will continue to block the brexit trade partner with the rest of the uk is removed. the legal deadline for the formation of a devolved government is next friday in the current northern ireland secretary has said if there is no break by then, and that seems unlikely, he will be calling another election, just seven months after northern ireland last went to the polls. of course, events in london have added a huge degree of uncertainty, for example, will there be another cabinet reshuffle next week could there be just a general change of tack on the government's pride? for now the parties are assuming they will be going back to the voters on the 15th of december, but stormont feels like it's an even greater state of limbo. shill

but stormont feels like it's an even greater state of limbo.— greater state of limbo. all of the -a greater state of limbo. all of the party leaders _ greater state of limbo. all of the party leaders here _ greater state of limbo. all of the party leaders here in _ greater state of limbo. all of the party leaders here in scotland i greater state of limbo. all of the | party leaders here in scotland say that liz truss made the right decision to resign. the leader of the scottish conservative party, douglas ross, he said we must now move forward quickly and the new leader and prime minister will need to restore stability for the good of the country. nicola sturgeon, scott and's first minister, described this as an almighty mess. she said a general election is a democratic necessity, but she also said that an election doesn't solve the problem here in scotland. she says the democratic case for independence is growing by the hour. of liz truss, she said that she would act most be a footnote in history. we understand there was no formal communication between liz truss and nicola sturgeon. nicola sturgeon says she will now wait until whoever is that that the prime minister since she became first minister, she said of

borisjohnson, it would be ludicrous to think that he could come back to number ten. to think that he could come back to number ten-— number ten. whilst story mps have come back to _ number ten. whilst story mps have come back to their _ number ten. whilst story mps have come back to their constituencies l number ten. whilst story mps have | come back to their constituencies to take the temperature come up probably feel a bit of heat. there is some public anger when they speak to their constituents. they will hear that call for the general election if that were to happen, would you look at the pulse of the moment, all 1a well story general election seats could be wiped off the map. 50 who do those mps want as their next leader? and ultimately their next leader? and ultimately the next prime minister. well, fewer than half of the 1a have publicly declared, but so far, they seem to be going in favour of rishi sunak. simon hatch, the man who was welsh secretary to boris johnson simon hatch, the man who was welsh secretary to borisjohnson played a part in his downfall in the final 48 hours. he's backing rishi sunak, the current was secretary, but robert buckland also backing rishi sunak. don't underestimate the support for borisjohnson here. some mps north

of wales can thank him for their seats several of those seats back in 2019. ., ., , ., 2019. that was the view from cardiff- so — 2019. that was the view from cardiff. so who _ 2019. that was the view from cardiff. so who else - 2019. that was the view from cardiff. so who else is - 2019. that was the view from cardiff. so who else is going | 2019. that was the view from i cardiff. so who else is going to cardiff. 50 who else is going to declare that they would like to stand as the next conservative party leader and alongside penny mourdant. who will get those necessary 100 nominations by two o'clock on monday in order to appear on the ballot? rest assured, we will keep you abreast of all those developments here on the bbc news channel over the weekend, but for now, from all of the team here in westminster, i will hand you back to jane. thank you, yes, a very busy few days ahead. as the leadership contest gets under way, the state of the economy continues to impact lives. new figures show government borrowing rose in september. borrowing — the difference between spending and tax income — was £20 billion last month, up £2.2 billion from a year earlier

— it's the second highest september borrowing since monthly records began in 1993. and retail sales figures experienced a bigger than expected monthly fall, of1.4%. meanwhile, the uk's financial services regulator has estimated that nearly eight million people are finding their bills "a heavy burden". the survey by the financial conduct authority was carried out between february and june. andy verity reports. with consumer confidence now closer to a 50—year low, the crowds at shopping centres are thinner. in september retail sales were down by more than expected, 3.2% below where they were before coronavirus. normally the value and volume of retail sales move together but because of much higher prices the amount shoppers are spending rose 12% but the goods that money bought was down.

13.5%. each customer, they are still buying, but instead of buying that much they are buying that much. and you hear tales of woe from some businesses which have had the bills in of massive, massive increases which are simply unsustainable. so that is the one thing we are concerned about business wise. while some corporations are banking record profits, 40% of small businesses, like those here at birmingham indoor market, don't expect to make any profit this year. we try and absorb the impact as much as we possibly can. you play the long game, so there's 52 weeks in a year and you have to look after your customers. figures from the financial watchdog suggest it's not the government's deficit but those of households that are getting unmanageable, with 4.2 million people missing bills or loan payments in the first half of this year. government borrowing, by contrast, has dropped rapidly since the pandemic without any tax rises or spending cuts as the economy bounced back. but that's before the government starts to spend tens of billions

subsidising energy bills. in the current financial year, i think it's understandable . that the government needs to step in and help pebble _ with their energy bills. at considerable cost to the exchequer. . l what really matters is that over i the medium term we get the public finances back on track so that once these energy schemes expire - and they're no longer needed, - we have appropriate decisions over tax and on spending to give markets confidence. - on the markets the pound has dropped again and shares in uk companies are down on reports that the new fiscal plan might get pushed back to november. all because of the new tory leadership race. andy verity, bbc news. in the last hour or so, steve bannon has been sentenced to four months in prison and following his conviction on two counts of contempt of congress. a former adviser to president trump, bannon was convicted after defying a subpoena

from lawmakers investigating the capital rights onjanuary the 6th last year. the united states says dave spent military experts ukrainian to help launchjenna jack's. military experts ukrainian to help launch jenna jack's. accuses russia of planning to destroy a damn. kyiv was struck by kamikaze germs on monday. our correspondent is in the southern city. a new kind of patrol. for the police officers here. on the lookout, not for criminals or russians, but people are using outside lighting. a sushi restaurant a surprise visit, and a photo gets a surprise visit, and a photo before a switch is selected. translation:— before a switch is selected. translation: ., , ,., ., ,

before a switch is selected. translation: ., ., , ., translation: the aggressor wants to dama . e translation: the aggressor wants to damare our translation: the aggressor wants to damage our energy — translation: the aggressor wants to damage our energy system. _ translation: the aggressor wants to damage our energy system. that - translation: the aggressor wants to damage our energy system. that is - damage our energy system. that is why the city is doing its best to provide sufficient level of energy supply for people's daily lives. fl} supply for people's daily lives. 70 properties were cut off for not following the rules. if he is like the curfew has artie started, there are some street lights on, but the city is gradually falling dark. and this is what escalation looks like now. they're targeting ukraine's infrastructure, the russians are taking away more freedoms from people, making life that bit more difficult, especially with winter approaching. this area along with the whole of ukraine is being forced to ration energy or shut it down. translation: we to ration energy or shut it down. translation:— translation: we have cut off streetlights _ translation: we have cut off streetlights by _ translation: we have cut off streetlights by 6096, _ translation: we have cut off streetlights by 6096, 5094. - translation: we have cut off streetlights by 6096, 5094. of i translation: we have cut off - streetlights by 6096, 5096 of electric streetlights by 60%, 50% of electric transport isn't operating. we've cut the power for all sports and

cultural buildings, now we are finishing switching off any outside banners and we also ask people to cut their electricity consumption. iran is helping russia with its invasion, according to the us. providing training as well as these attack drones made by up deployed by moscow. both countries denied. where russia is going backwards in the southern region, kyiv has accused of planting explosives on this key dam. ukraine still has momentum but progress isn't simple. waterhouse, bbc news. the time is edging up to five to 6pm and let's just take a few minutes now to talk about one other story entirely here. the ongoing cheating scandal that's rocked the world of chess. us grandmaster hans niemann is suing his rival magnus carlsen for at least 100 million dollars after the norwegian world champion accused him of cheating. he's also suing website chess.com, which published a report saying

he had probably cheated in more than 100 online games. dominic lawson is a columnist for the sunday times and president of the english chess federation. let's discuss this. very good evening. for those of us who are not as steeped in the world of chess as you clearly are, just explain how explosive this is, this allegation of cheating, this row that has grown up between these two players. it that has grown up between these two -la ers. , , ,, players. it is explosive because he is the world _ players. it is explosive because he is the world champion _ players. it is explosive because he is the world champion in _ players. it is explosive because he is the world champion in the - players. it is explosive because he is the world champion in the world strongest player probably of all time. it's explosive because in any sport, there is no more toxic accu utilisation then cheating. even accusation of it is damaging. if it is true, then the whole structure of

the professional game and it will be true in other sports is profoundly undermined. it is potentially devastating.— undermined. it is potentially devastatina. ., ., devastating. now, forgive me, because again, _ devastating. now, forgive me, because again, as _ devastating. now, forgive me, because again, as a _ devastating. now, forgive me, because again, as a non-chess because again, as a non—chess player, we are talking about a face—to—face competition here, the key allegation, we are not talking about online games in this specific allegation here, i appreciate there is the website issue. we allegation here, i appreciate there is the website issue.— allegation here, i appreciate there is the website issue. we are talking about both in _ is the website issue. we are talking about both in this _ is the website issue. we are talking about both in this sense. _ is the website issue. we are talking about both in this sense. to - is the website issue. we are talking about both in this sense. to remind viewers, he stormed out of the world strongest chess tournament with half a million prize fund accusing him effectively or implying very cleverly that he had cheated in that game. as you say, over the board, face—to—face. what subsequently emerged was that he confessed that as a child he is now 19. he had cheated online and nine money games.

and of course if you are playing online, it is in fact relatively easy to cheat because he can look at a chess engine, your telephone, even and the best line will come up. and thatis and the best line will come up. and that is unfortunately not uncommon. for any leading grandmaster to cheat in and over the board face—to—face game and not only that, i'm sorry, i've got to the phone. is game and not only that, i'm sorry, i've got to the phone.— game and not only that, i'm sorry, i've got to the phone. is he playing chess at the _ i've got to the phone. is he playing chess at the moment? _ i've got to the phone. is he playing chess at the moment? and - i've got to the phone. is he playing chess at the moment? and that. i've got to the phone. is he playing chess at the moment? and that is| i've got to the phone. is he playing | chess at the moment? and that is a hint as to what his next move should be. he is back. hint as to what his next move should be- he is back-— be. he is back. sorry, that was the telephone- — be. he is back. sorry, that was the telephone. that _ be. he is back. sorry, that was the telephone. that is _ be. he is back. sorry, that was the telephone. that is completely - telephone. that is completely unprecedented. and by the way, there were various jokes which probably can't be broadcast on the bbc about how certain objects could be inserted that would enable those are

essentially jokes such inserted that would enable those are essentiallyjokes such people unfortunately thought were serious. it would in fact be unbelievably difficult for him to have cheated in the way that he was alleged to have done. but it is completely explosive. done. but it is completely exolosive-_ done. but it is completely exlosive. , , , , explosive. very, very quickly, but i don't understand, _ explosive. very, very quickly, but i don't understand, stale, _ explosive. very, very quickly, but i don't understand, stale, how- explosive. very, very quickly, but i don't understand, stale, how one | don't understand, stale, how one sheets face—to—face, because it is like the coughing and who wants to be a millionaire?— like the coughing and who wants to be a millionaire? yes. but something like that that — be a millionaire? yes. but something like that that would _ be a millionaire? yes. but something like that that would indicate - be a millionaire? yes. but something like that that would indicate maybe . like that that would indicate maybe you should play a certain mood. the point is the tournament concerned and to those of that calibre are intentionally individuated. it is not like a television programme with someone in a big audience. and the point is that carlson has not even given any suggestion of how it was done, let alone provided any evidence of how it would be done. it

evidence of how it would be done. it is fascinating. i'm bitterly regretting that we didn't get the line up to a little earlier because i feel there are still so many questions there, perhaps we will talk again because this story is not going away. talk again because this story is not going away-— talk again because this story is not going away-_ and i talk again because this story is not i going away-_ and you going away. asked me back. and you can aet going away. asked me back. and you can get back — going away. asked me back. and you can get back to _ going away. asked me back. and you can get back to phone _ going away. asked me back. and you can get back to phone call _ going away. asked me back. and you can get back to phone call now- going away. asked me back. and you can get back to phone call now as - can get back to phone call now as well. so everybody wins. or not. yes, there is so much that that story makes and i'm sorry that i didn't have time to talk to him more because he does know a lot about chess and it would've been interesting to talk to him about the tory leadership as well. much more about that story of course, the one thatis about that story of course, the one that is rather dominating coming up in the six o'clock news in just a moment. for now, here on bbc news, enjoy your weekend, whatever you are doing over the course of the weekend. much more to come at six p:m..

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