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borisjohnson, who's heading back from a caribbean holiday, and the formerfinance minister, rishi sunak. good morning. now on bbc news, the editor—in—chief of british vogue, edward enninful, sits down with amol rajan to discuss his upbringing, the health of the fashion industry and what he's going to do next. as editor—in—chief of british vogue since 2017, 02 has challenge convention not least by increasing the number of black and older women in the magazine. he has reached the summit of international fashion and media while battling depression, alcohol problems and a sickle—cell condition. it

is a long way from his childhood which his family fled in the political turmoil of the mid—19 80s, landing in south london at the height of social rest in the capital. black, working class, gay and a former asylum seeker, he is now tipped by many as i went to�*s retirement from american vogue. very good to see you. how are you doing? i very good to see you. how are you doing?— you doing? i am good. thank you for having — you doing? i am good. thank you for having me. _ you doing? i am good. thank you for having me. i— you doing? i am good. thank you for having me. i wanted - you doing? i am good. thank you for having me. i wanted to - you doing? i am good. thank you for having me. i wanted to find i for having me. i wanted to find out who he _ for having me. i wanted to find out who he really _ for having me. i wanted to find out who he really is _ for having me. i wanted to find out who he really is and - for having me. i wanted to find out who he really is and how i for having me. i wanted to find | out who he really is and how he wants to change our culture. edward enninful, thank you for speaking to me and the bbc news. i want to start by talking about where your book starts, which is where your family, because you were born into a remarkable ghanaian family, the fifth of six children. your dad was a military major you describe as a sporadic resins around the house. what was he like? he was very strict. _ house. what was he like? he was very strict. very _ house. what was he like? he was very strict, very old _ house. what was he like? he was

very strict, very old school, - very strict, very old school, african military, you know, ruled the house with an iron fist, and we were all scared of him growing up. you would be outside playing, there comes your dad and you have to run in the house, clean yourfeet, wash your hands. yeah, he was old school military. == old school military. -- disciplinary _ old school military. -- disciplinary and - old school military. —— disciplinary and tight. what about your mum? mr; disciplinary and tight. what about your mum?— disciplinary and tight. what about your mum? disciplinary and tight. what about our mum? g , about your mum? my mum was very creative, about your mum? my mum was very creative. that — about your mum? my mum was very creative, that is _ about your mum? my mum was very creative, that is where _ about your mum? my mum was very creative, that is where i _ about your mum? my mum was very creative, that is where i got - creative, that is where i got my creativity wrong. she was also making clothes and making people laugh, always in a world of her own. so they were quite a good contrast. find of her own. so they were quite a good contrast.— a good contrast. and she set out with this _ a good contrast. and she set out with this company - a good contrast. and she set out with this company of - out with this company of seamstresses. there you discovered your interest in garments and creativity and you came to understand the interest of fashion for women. i remember all these incredible women of all shapes and sizes and colours. my grandmother, my aunts, my cousins, and all of

them laughing, and so i always associated fashion with fun and m associated fashion with fun and joy in seeing a woman try on a dress and just come alive. so i remember going to my aunt's salon and seeing ebony magazine and time and i was transported. i didn't know i would end up sort of doing what i am doing now, but i knew there was a world out there that i wanted to be a part of and it was glamorous and it was bright and all these incredible women that have always been obsessed with strong women. 50 have always been obsessed with strong women.— strong women. so often with immigrant — strong women. so often with immigrant stories, _ strong women. so often with immigrant stories, it - strong women. so often with immigrant stories, it was - immigrant stories, it was political upheaval that actually created the circumstances in which you would move to london, and initially as south supplement by scott boxall. it must�*ve been an incredible psychological challenge your father. he psychological challenge your father. ., ., ., , father. he had to swallow his ride father. he had to swallow his pride because _ father. he had to swallow his pride because he _ father. he had to swallow his pride because he was - father. he had to swallow his pride because he was such i father. he had to swallow his pride because he was such a | pride because he was such a proud man. to go from being military person to seeking asylum, and we were all sort of

crammed into my aunt's 2—bedroom flat in vauxhall stock but we were just kids, we thought this was paradise, really. but we were all sharing rooms and now that i look back, oh, my god, it was quite... quite a hard time. we had no money. when you are young, you don't see those things, everything is an adventure. you said ou everything is an adventure. you said you are _ everything is an adventure. you said you are interested in strong women. at school, said women were my special weakness. people would use that phrase in a sexual sense, and i don't think you were. what did you mean? i think you were. what did you mean? ., , think you were. what did you mean? . , ., ., mean? i realise from a young are that mean? i realise from a young age that i _ mean? i realise from a young age that i didn't _ mean? i realise from a young age that i didn't see - mean? i realise from a young age that i didn't see women | mean? i realise from a young| age that i didn't see women in age that i didn't see women in a sexual way but i loved when they were outspoken, i loved when they dressed for themselves, i loved everything about them. and i guess we will get into talking about being gay later, but at that time, i knew i had a strong affiliation. i didn't hang out with boys. i always hung out

with boys. i always hung out with the girls and i was never bullied because if you wanted to get to know the girls, you have to get to know me. you were the _ have to get to know me. you were the ideal _ have to get to know me. you were the ideal wing - have to get to know me. you were the ideal wing man, won't you? were the idealwing man, won't ou? ., ~' ., were the idealwing man, won't ou? . ~ ., ., ., you? had i known what a wing man was! _ you? had i known what a wing man was! perfect. _ you? had i known what a wing man was! perfect. you - you? had i known what a wing man was! perfect. you movedj you? had i known what a wing i man was! perfect. you moved to ladbroke grove _ man was! perfect. you moved to ladbroke grove which _ man was! perfect. you moved to ladbroke grove which is - man was! perfect. you moved to ladbroke grove which isjust - ladbroke grove which is just north of notting hill. what was it like back then the young man and a young black man? ladbroke grove is a very — and a young black man? ladbroke grove is a very interesting - grove is a very interesting area, notting hill generally. it is one of the few areas you can have one of the wealthiest of the wealthiest arista graphs next to rastafarian is next to immigrants, so i love the energy. i loved the fact, oh, my god, i really belonged in england when we ladbroke grove. 0ne england when we ladbroke grove. one of the frontline does not ladbroke grove was almost the frontline and the police with their own every day so you had to be so careful. we were stopped so many times, my brothers and i. it

stopped so many times, my brothers and i.— brothers and i. it is remarkable, - brothers and i. it is remarkable, the i brothers and i. it is - remarkable, the course of history, it can swing on chance meetings. foryou history, it can swing on chance meetings. for you it was when you were on the london underground and a man called simon handed you a card. i got on the train — simon handed you a card. i got on the train and _ simon handed you a card. i got on the train and i _ simon handed you a card. i got on the train and i was - simon handed you a card. i grrt on the train and i was heading to college and simon was staring at me, he was wearing denim, i was quite sheltered... 16. �* ., ~ ,, ., denim, i was quite sheltered... 16. on baker street he got off and ave 16. on baker street he got off and gave me _ 16. on baker street he got off and gave me his— 16. on baker street he got off and gave me his card - 16. on baker street he got off and gave me his card and - 16. on baker street he got off| and gave me his card and said, my name is simon and i am a stylist. i didn't know what a stylus was. "call me. i would love to use you an issue." i got home and told mum... mum, i want to do this! she wasn't having it. she said, the fashion industry is full of weird people. i don't know what she meant by we had at the time. as you do when you are young, iforced her, and eventually she called simon... she called him, not you? she wanted to vet him and make sure... ,, , wanted to vet him and make sure... , ~ sure... basically! african mother- _

sure... basically! african mother. yes, _ sure... basically! african mother. yes, then - sure. .. basically! african mother. yes, then i- sure... basically! african i mother. yes, then i started shooting with simon as a model and i became a model for the agency while i was in college. really, that was my entry into fashion. a, really, that was my entry into fashion. �* ., fashion. a few weeks later you were doing _ fashion. a few weeks later you were doing a _ fashion. a few weeks later you were doing a shoot _ fashion. a few weeks later you were doing a shoot with - fashion. a few weeks later you were doing a shoot with the i were doing a shoot with the great nick knight with a photographer you are still loyal with today, he shot covers for you. you were a fashion director at the age of 18. that magazine was legendary. what id magazine is such an influence on the culture back then, 80s and 90s? terry was still at id, he was our director at british vogue and he looked around the streets and saw so many incredible people from different races... different ages, not being reflected in the sort of the big magazine that the time. so he decided to set up a magazine to document youth culture, a magazine run by young people for young people. that is what id was so

influential.— influential. you came of age in fashion at _ influential. you came of age in fashion at the _ influential. you came of age in fashion at the same _ influential. you came of age in fashion at the same time - influential. you came of age in fashion at the same time as i fashion at the same time as people are naomi campbell and kate moss, people watching now would be aware of them as two icons in fashion. i want to ask you what makes them successful. you knew kate was in the early days. i you knew kate was in the early da s. ., , you knew kate was in the early da s. ' ~ you knew kate was in the early da 5. ' ~ ., , you knew kate was in the early das. , days. i was 16 and she was 14 and we were _ days. i was 16 and she was 14 and we were at _ days. i was 16 and she was 14 and we were at a _ days. i was 16 and she was 14 and we were at a casting, - days. i was 16 and she was 14| and we were at a casting, and days. i was 16 and she was 14 i and we were at a casting, and i remember she walked in and she charmed the whole room. the energy, the beauty. she was uniquely herself. naomi has always been the same. she was always been the same. she was always outspoken. she always thought she would be a star from when she was a baby and she is a star, but they really are who they are, authentic. you were also dividing your own sexuality, and being open about it, you had a girlfriend who was another model and simon took you to more gay bars, he described this in the book very beautifully, you talk about how, just as i had found myself

in fashion, now i was discovering more intimate terrain. ifelt discovering more intimate terrain. i felt free and scared and excited. but how did coming from a ghanaian family complicated coming out? mr; complicated coming out? my friends complicated coming out? ij�*i friends said complicated coming out? ii friends said when complicated coming out? ii1 friends said when i was complicated coming out? i’i1: friends said when i was a teenager we had this conversation, i didn't remember. it is a european thing. and he was like... know, maybe it is who you are. and i remember being very shy about it. but when we started going out and seeing people like myself, slowly ijust realised, oh, my god, i have found a tribe. ., , ., ., ., ~ tribe. how did your dad take it? my dad. _ tribe. how did your dad take it? my dad, funny _ tribe. how did your dad take it? my dad, funny enough i it? my dad, funny enough document _ it? my dad, funny enough document everyone - it? my dad, funny enough document everyone said l it? my dad, funny enough | document everyone said it it? my dad, funny enough - document everyone said it would be a problem. i was like, this is who i am, he had already kicked me out back then, it was already strained at that point. strange because he wanted you to study law. i strange because he wanted you to study law-— to study law. i remember caettin to study law. i remember getting there _ to study law. i remember getting there and - to study law. i remember getting there and realise | to study law. i remember. getting there and realise it wasn't for me and realised i

love what i was doing, assisting simon in modelling and so i pretended to my father i was going to university when i was going to university when i was going to university when i was actually hanging out, and i was actually hanging out, and i remember one day literally i couldn't hide it anymore and i told him that i wanted to be in the fashion industry and i was no longer going to go to university, and out the window came my stuff. he threw all my stuff out. i picked it up and my cousin, ijust moved in with another friend. my cousin, ijust moved in with anotherfriend. and never went another friend. and never went back anotherfriend. and never went back home. so... the interesting thing about that day, talking about fate... i remember picking up my stuff and going into id magazine where i started talking to terryjones and beth, the fashion director, and told them what had happened, that i had been kicked out, and that same day beth summers really told me she was leaving and i was taken over. , , .,

over. timing is everything. you writin a over. timing is everything. you writing a about _ over. timing is everything. you writing a about this _ over. timing is everything. you writing a about this era - over. timing is everything. you writing a about this era and - writing a about this era and the parties, the drugs, the alcohol, the intense kind of document you write about the reaching point where you are on a path of self—destruction. it was that? what happened? i a path of self-destruction. it was that? what happened? i was in london in _ was that? what happened? i was in london in my— was that? what happened? i was in london in my 20s, _ was that? what happened? i was in london in my 20s, i _ was that? what happened? i was in london in my 20s, i had - was that? what happened? i was in london in my 20s, i had a - in london in my 20s, i had a greatjob, making money, out all the time. that is what we did at id. in your 20s, you go out, you don't need any sleep, you drink and party and come back to work, and i did that for so long, and when i had the age of 30 i decided if i was going to put my life into focus, if i was going to find any kind of success, notjust in work, but within myself as a human being, that i needed to be clean. ., . . ' human being, that i needed to beclean. ., .. ' human being, that i needed to beclean. ., ,, ' , ., be clean. you spent 14 years on the alcoholics _ be clean. you spent 14 years on the alcoholics anonymous - the alcoholics anonymous programme. the alcoholics anonymous programme-— the alcoholics anonymous roramme. , ., , programme. yes, i had stopped six months _ programme. yes, i had stopped six months before, _ programme. yes, i had stopped six months before, i _ programme. yes, i had stopped six months before, i literally . six months before, i literally woke up one day after a party

and decided, this is it, somebody stole my passport, i am done. so i was on a plane to new york six months later and a friend approached me on the plane. i said, friend approached me on the plane. isaid, i haven't drank for six months, and she said, do you know about aa? and i said no, what is that. she said when you get off the plane, find a meeting and you will like it. i did that, but i was already six months clean and i found fellowship, i found everybody was even, it didn't matter whether you are the head of a company or someone, you know, who slept on the streets. it just levelled know, who slept on the streets. itjust levelled everybody. so itjust levelled everybody. so i learntjust really about being with people, being able to be myself, but also being respectful. to be myself, but also being respectful-— to be myself, but also being respectful. when you went to really dark — respectful. when you went to really dark places, _ respectful. when you went to really dark places, how- respectful. when you went to really dark places, how bad i respectful. when you went to i really dark places, how bad did it get before you came clean? you got very bad. you imagine,

here i was, i lost one home, which was africa, came to england, then i lost a second home when i was kicked out, and then i went into the gay scene thinking i had found my tribe, and again, so many rejections. so for me, i was always looking for a home, looking so for me, i was always looking fora home, looking for... belonging. for a home, looking for... itelonging-_ for a home, looking for... belonging. you belonging. yes, belonging. you have had four _ belonging. yes, belonging. you have had four eye _ belonging. yes, belonging. you have had four eye operations. i have had four eye operations. for someone who depends for their career on their i come in media and fashion, that must be pretty scary. i media and fashion, that must be pretty scary-— pretty scary. i never had good e esiht pretty scary. i never had good eyesight anyway. _ pretty scary. i never had good eyesight anyway. i _ pretty scary. i never had good eyesight anyway, i always - pretty scary. i never had good j eyesight anyway, i always had -10 eyesight anyway, i always had —10 glasses, and i had four retinal detachment, four surgeries. each time, three weeks, staring at the ground in a dark room and not lifting up your head, and, yes, it was very sort of psychologically intense. but what i also learned from that, you don't

need perfect vision to create. you don't need 2020 vision to see images. so even though i have bad eyesight, i am still able to create images that people seem to... that resonate with people. do you fear losing your eyesight? that is my biggest fear. i need my eyes to do what i do. so having been through that and survived... . your career was flourishing in the early naughties but you had not had much to do with american vogue and then in 2005 you went to see someone could and a winter and you went to new york and american vogue is very different. you describe in the book your time at american vogue and say that it was hard not to feel creatively stifled in those years. what did you mean by that.— in those years. what did you mean by that. because i came from the _ mean by that. because i came from the world _ mean by that. because i came from the world of— mean by that. because i came from the world of id _ mean by that. because i came from the world of id where - mean by that. because i came from the world of id where i i from the world of id where i could be as creative as i wanted and when i got to

american vogue i had previously been at italian vogue were got to create different stories based around plastic surgery or black models and then i went to american vogue where there were specific models you had to use and it was quite a strict framework which i was not used to i am glad i went through that because that really enabled me to understand the business side of fashion, that fashion was notjust about fantasy but that it was a business. in fantasy but that it was a business.— fantasy but that it was a business. , ., ,., ., ~ , ., fantasy but that it was a business. y., y., business. in your book you say ou business. in your book you say you became — business. in your book you say you became known _ business. in your book you say you became known as - business. in your book you say you became known as the - business. in your book you say you became known as the guy| business. in your book you say - you became known as the guy who shoots black girls. i’zre you became known as the guy who shoots black girls.— shoots black girls. i've always been about — shoots black girls. i've always been about different - shoots black girls. i've always been about different women i shoots black girls. i've alwaysl been about different women of shopes— been about different women of shapes and sizes and religions and when _ shapes and sizes and religions and when i got to american vogue _ and when i got to american vogue i_ and when i got to american vogue i guess they had there, you know. _ vogue i guess they had there, you know, they have their box but i _ you know, they have their box but i think— you know, they have their box but i think i was also brought in to— but i think i was also brought in to break that box because if i in to break that box because if i wanted — in to break that box because if i wanted black models i got them — i wanted black models i got them. if— i wanted black models i got them. ., , i wanted black models i got them. . , ., them. if i wanted this model, i ot her. them. if i wanted this model, i got her- how — them. if i wanted this model, i got her. how did _ them. if i wanted this model, i got her. how did that - them. if i wanted this model, i got her. how did that make - them. if i wanted this model, i | got her. how did that make you reflect on the publicly difficulties at conde nast a

few months ago where some people say it was a place difficult to work out. it was not 'ust difficult to work out. it was not just conti _ difficult to work out. it was not just conti mr _ difficult to work out. it was not just conti mr was - difficult to work out. it was notjust conti mr was every company. the brilliant thing for me was seeing people address, finally when people talk about a conscious bias is, when people talk about treatment in the workplace and it is true. a lot of companies have made all these pledges to minorities and i think conde nast, yes, there were problems but it affected the wider world. , , , world. there is endless speculation _ world. there is endless speculation about - world. there is endless speculation about anna world. there is endless - speculation about anna winter and a lot of rumours online that she will base downs that make step down soon. if asked to go and be the editor of american vogue and replace anna, that would be a huge honour wouldn't it? i anna, that would be a huge honour wouldn't it?- honour wouldn't it? i don't know. people _ honour wouldn't it? i don't know. people love - honour wouldn't it? i don't know. people love to - honour wouldn't it? i don't - know. people love to speculate about our relationship but what i can tell you is that i am happy doing what i can do right now working with british vogue and overseeing the european vogue is. i'm very happy right

now but you never know what the future holds. i am always open".. future holds. i am always open---— future holds. i am always oen... ., ,. open... . to discussions about it. open... . to discussions about it- have _ open... . to discussions about it- have you — open... . to discussions about it. have you had _ open... . to discussions about it. have you had talks - open... . to discussions about it. have you had talks about i it. have you had talks about it? that is _ it. have you had talks about it? that is not _ it. have you had talks about it? that is not fair. - it. have you had talks about it? that is not fair. one - it? that is not fair. one critique _ it? that is not fair. one critique of _ it? that is not fair. one critique of the - it? that is not fair. one critique of the fashion i critique of the fashion industry broadly has been that it has, for too long, promoted a narrow conception of beauty. a eurocentric or western one. for years there wasn't no ideal of what a fashion model should be or what a fashion magazine, who should be in a fashion magazine. i love beauty in all its shapes and colours and i want those people reflected in the magazine. itjust did not make sense to me businesswise or culturally not to reflect the world we lived in. let me ut ou the world we lived in. let me put you another _ the world we lived in. let me put you another critique - the world we lived in. let me put you another critique of i the world we lived in. let me | put you another critique of the industry that there is a growing amount of concern about the impact of fashion on the environment, that it costs the earth, basically. 0xfam says

that fast fashion produces more carbon emissions per minute than driving a car around the world six times and just one industry, fashion, accounts for 4% of global greenhouse emissions, as much as france germany in the uk combined. that is an extraordinary impact, often on items that are wasted or disposed of. are you concerned that fashion costs too much of the earth? that concerned that fashion costs too much of the earth? at the moment the _ too much of the earth? at the moment the biggest - too much of the earth? at the - moment the biggest conversation in fashion right now is sustainability and how, what we can do to save the planet. for me, if you look to one of my issues, had taylor swift on the cover and my is by better by less, let's not buy things every day that will pollute, will end up in landfill. let's buy things you can pass on two generations. these conversations are so paramount in the industry right now. it

is impossible to talk about what you have done it vogue without talking about the guest editing that meghan markle did. this occupies only a couple of pages in your booking you describe her as a phenomenal editing partner but as everyone has noticed as is often the case when she is involved, people offer their opinion about what is going on and it is only reasonable given the amount of commentary and that some of it relates to you, that you were given the opportunity to set the record straight. two suggestions made in public that, firstly, you must to delay publication in the uk by a day to give the american media 24 hour head start. is that not true? that has been published. that not true? that has been published-— that not true? that has been ublished. ., ., y., , published. how do you respond to that? the — published. how do you respond to that? the issue? _ published. how do you respond to that? the issue? the - to that? the issue? the suggestion _ to that? the issue? the suggestion was - to that? the issue? the suggestion was that - to that? the issue? the suggestion was that the megan's team asked you to delay publication in the uk by a day to give a 24—hour head start to the american not that i know. you havejust the american not that i know. you have just told the american not that i know. you havejust told me something. and to what extent

did the royal household try to take control of promotion of the issue?— the issue? vogue is vogue. nobody told _ the issue? vogue is vogue. nobody told us _ the issue? vogue is vogue. nobody told us what - the issue? vogue is vogue. nobody told us what to - the issue? vogue is vogue. nobody told us what to do. | the issue? vogue is vogue. i nobody told us what to do. we have deadlines and and social media dates so nobody interfered with us. was the stress of — interfered with us. was the stress of that _ interfered with us. was the stress of that edition - interfered with us. was the stress of that edition were | stress of that edition were for? i stress of that edition were for? ., ., ., for? i am all about representing - for? i am all about representing the i for? i am all about- representing the zeitgeist for? i am all about— representing the zeitgeist and reflecting what is going on in society. and at that moment in time she was the zeitgeist and we had to report on it. that is important to me. to reflect the moment. . ., important to me. to reflect the moment. .., ., ,, , , moment. the cover of september vo u ue moment. the cover of september vogue features _ moment. the cover of september vogue features linda _ vogue features linda evangelista. recently she has gone from being one of the most photographed women in the world to perhaps one of the least after complications with cosmetic surgery. why did you put her on the cover? it cosmetic surgery. why did you put her on the cover?- put her on the cover? it was sad for me _ put her on the cover? it was sad for me to _ put her on the cover? it was sad for me to see _ put her on the cover? it was sad for me to see my - put her on the cover? it was| sad for me to see my friend, who i lovejust disappearfrom the world because of, you know, all she went through with plastic surgery. it was hard

for her and anybody who knew her. so when it came out and she told the world why she had not left the house are just made sense, for me, to have her on the cover because she is the ultimate models model and she wanted to look a certain way, she wanted to be the linda that inspires everybody. she wanted to be that again and i was not going to argue against that. i gave her what she wanted. i will never tell a woman whether to have plastic surgery or not. that is her decision. but i am glad i was able to help her overcome the pain that she went through. overcome the pain that she went throu u h. ., , overcome the pain that she went throuh. ., , ., , through. the last few years have been _ through. the last few years have been intense. - through. the last few years have been intense. you'vel through. the last few years i have been intense. you've had the magazine through the pandemic and we also just had a very special year where we celebrated the 50th birthday. a new got married. finally! after 20 years! congratulations. he

proposed to who? 0r 20 years! congratulations. he proposed to who? or was it unspoken? i proposed to who? or was it unspoken?— proposed to who? or was it unsoken? . , , ., unspoken? i had been proposing forever and _ unspoken? i had been proposing forever and apparently _ unspoken? i had been proposing forever and apparently i - unspoken? i had been proposing forever and apparently i was - forever and apparently i was not doing it the right way. but my husband, alec, is so wonderful. he knew i had a special birthday coming up so i got married on my birthday. i should make clear for people who miss the early part of this interview, you are now, your relationship with your father is back on track. you had 15 years we didn't speak to him. but today you are speaking and you must be extremely proud of you. you must be extremely proud of ou. , , ., , ., you must be extremely proud of ou. , y., y., 4' ., you. he tells everyone you know african fathers. _ you. he tells everyone you know african fathers. he _ you. he tells everyone you know african fathers. he would - you. he tells everyone you know african fathers. he would neverl african fathers. he would never tell me but i know he is. he tells my friends siblings et cetera. ,, ., tells my friends siblings et cetera. . ~ cetera. some quickfire questions. _ cetera. some quickfire questions. maximum i cetera. some quickfire i questions. maximum ten cetera. some quickfire - questions. maximum ten words, minimum one. what is the first record you with a boat. houston. he was the greatest hero living or dead?— hero living or dead? nelson mandela- —

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was when i was younger, but yes. was when i was younger, but es. .. y ., was when i was younger, but es. ., , ., was when i was younger, but es. .. y ., , yes. have you en'oyed this interview? i yes. have you en'oyed this interview? you i yes. have you enjoyed this interview? you are - yes. have you enjoyed this interview? you are my i yes. have you enjoyed this i interview? you are my favourite interviewer _ interview? you are my favourite interviewer in — interview? you are my favourite interviewer in the _ interview? you are my favourite interviewer in the world. - interview? you are my favourite interviewer in the world. that i interviewer in the world. that is the right — interviewer in the world. that is the right answer. _ interviewer in the world. that is the right answer. final i is the right answer. final lands detriment question. what advice would you give to that young man who came from ghana arriving in south london in the mid— 80s hoping to make his way in the world? [30 mid- 80s hoping to make his way in the world?— in the world? do not be scared. you belong- — in the world? do not be scared. you belong. and _ in the world? do not be scared. you belong. and everything i in the world? do not be scared. j you belong. and everything will be ok. �* . . you belong. and everything will beok. 3. .. .. you belong. and everything will beok. h, ., ~ ., be ok. let's be frank about this. in many— be ok. let's be frank about this. in many ways - be ok. let's be frank about this. in many ways you i be ok. let's be frank about this. in many ways you are | be ok. let's be frank about i this. in many ways you are an unlikely figure. your story is remarkable. to what extent do you see yourself, a former asylum seeker, all working class black gay man. how do you see yourself as being an agent of change? do you wake up in the morning thinking you need to change the fashion industry, that there is work to be done? i do not wake up thinking i am here to change the world but i wake up thinking that maybe i could make the world a better place by reflecting my idea of what the world should be, you

know? i should what the world should be, you know? ishould not what the world should be, you know? i should not be here, you know? i should not be here, you know? i should not be here, you know? i was from a country where we had to flee so every day is a thankful day and every day is a thankful day and every day i try to think of what to do in the world that will make a difference.— a difference. edward enninful, it is a real— a difference. edward enninful, it is a real pleasure. _ a difference. edward enninful, it is a real pleasure. thank i it is a real pleasure. thank you i really enjoyed it. thank you i really enjoyed it. thank you so much. hello there. friday brought heavy rain forsome, and in areas where we are desperate for it. the heaviest of the rain

moving up through dorset across the midlands, and in fact there was over an inch of rainfall in parts of 0xfordshire throughout the day, so some pretty muddy fields starting to develop now. however, eastern england, lots of blue sky and sunshine, and temperatures peaked at 20 degrees. a beautiful opportunity for getting out and enjoying some of the gorgeous autumn colour that we have. the start of the weekend quite promising with this bump of high pressure, but the second half of the weekend sees this low developing, moving in and bringing further outbreaks of rain. once again, the winds will become a feature, but we keep the wind direction from a southerly, so that milder flow stays with us. those temperatures are widely going to sit in the mid to high teens over the next few days. so on saturday, we'll have some outbreaks of showery rain through northern ireland pushing out of northern england into southern scotland and weakening just a touch. at the same time, we will start to see showers, some of them heavy and thundery, gathering to the south—west. but sandwiched in between the two, that's where the best of the sunshine is likely to be, and temperatures again peaking at 18—19 degrees

with that sunshine, it will feel very pleasant. into sunday, here's the low starting to bring some heavy thundery downpours up across the country, a spell of wet weather through the morning, which will pretty much start to grind to a halt across central scotland into the afternoon. brightening up with sharper showers behind and still pretty warm with it, so a day of contrast i suspect once again into sunday afternoon. as we move into the beginning of the week, that frontal system will start to push through the far north of scotland, but we will still keep the threat of further fronts moving in from the west as we go through the week ahead. so on monday, we have got some wet weather clearing scotland, sunny spells and scattered showers behind, still the risk that some of those showers could be thundery, chiefly out to the west — the best of the dry weather once again remains for eastern england. and again, we will see those temperatures into the high teens, above where they should be for this time of year. and that will be the trend as we go through the week ahead. it stays relatively mild,

but we have got more showers to come towards the end of the working week. that's it — whatever you're doing, have a lovely weekend.

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