said he was standing as prime minister to fix a "profound economic crisis" as well as unite his party. he became chancellor in february 2020 and within weeks found himself having to steer the uk economy as the pandemic and its lockdowns began. in april, the finances of rishi sunak and his family came under intense scrutiny, with the tax affairs of his heiress wife akshata murthy placed in the spotlight. she later announced she would start paying uk tax on her overseas earnings to relieve political pressure on her husband. rishi sunak is a practising hindu and will become the first asian prime minister. it is diwali in two years ago as chancellor when it was meant when he lit candles outside number 11 and he has since said that was one of his proudest achievements in politics. i'm joined now by our

chief political correspondent nick eardley. this is another big moment, nick. another prime minister. it is this is another big moment, nick. another prime minister.— this is another big moment, nick. another prime minister. it is a huge moment, joanna, _ another prime minister. it is a huge moment, joanna, partly _ another prime minister. it is a huge moment, joanna, partly because . another prime minister. it is a huge i moment, joanna, partly because rishi moment, joanna, partly because rishi sunak is someone who will come into this office with some of the biggest challenges that any prime minister in modern history has faced. i said that several weeks ago in downing street when liz truss took over but the challenges that this is scenic is going to face have only gone up over the past few week set the challenges that rishi sunak is going to face. he has to try and steady the ship economically and we have a rough idea of how he wants to do that because he has talked about sound fiscal management, not borrowing too much, balancing the books. he did that during the summer, anyway. but, as you said, we have not heard from rishi sunak in public for weeks. he has not spoken at all to any broadcaster in any interview to anyone, really, apart from behind closed doors about what he wants to do with power. it is a

week today, as things stand, until the next big fiscal statement from the next big fiscal statement from the new chancellorjeremy hunt is supposed to happen in the house of commons. i suspect people want to keep that date because they want to make their intervention on the economy before the bank of england makes its next big decision on interest rates but rishi sunak will into number ten facing a huge, daunting entry. the economy at home, the war in ukraine, global questions about inflation, about supply economics, about how exactly is steady the ship without speaking markets even further. —— how exactly you steady the ship without spooking markets. and then all that time he will be facing questions from opposition parties and even some of his own mps it seems about whether

he needs to call a general election to get a mandate to do what he was. of expectation in the conservative party of government in general is that the next government on the mr sunak is going to have to make it extremely difficult economic decisions. that means cuts and it may mean taxes going up in some senses. and there will be questions, i think, about whether mr sunak has the mandate to do that given that borisjohnson was the one who won the election back in 2019. liz truss was the one who won the vote of conservative members just seven weeks ago. mr sunak has now been put in place by his mps. just weeks ago. mr sunak has now been put in place by his mps.— in place by his mps. just before we no on to in place by his mps. just before we go on to talk— in place by his mps. just before we go on to talk about _ in place by his mps. just before we go on to talk about the _ in place by his mps. just before we go on to talk about the economics | in place by his mps. just before we i go on to talk about the economics of pauljohnson from the institute for fiscal studies, just another word about the politics because you said jeremy hunt the chancellor will be delivering that statement on the sist. delivering that statement on the 31st. what is expected in terms of whether the people currently on those key posts that he will stay? i don't know is the simple answer. i have asked team sooner and the whole time that we've been asking these

questions they've said they're not getting ahead of themselves that they not making those decisions —— i have asked team sunak. my hunch is that given that mr hunt has managed to steady the ship a bit that he is likely to stay as chancellor for stability if for no other reason but we will find out i suspect more about that tomorrow. expectation is we won't see liz truss leave number ten today in mr sunak enter. i would expect that to happen tomorrow by the time all the logistics gets sorted out and if mr sunak is in there by tomorrow afternoon he will then have to start thatjob of putting together his cabinet, and getting around the table with his top team including his chancellor, jeremy hunt or whoever that may be on figuring out what tough choices they are going to make to try and balance the books, to try and study the economy. a lot of people have asked privately of the last few weeks he would want to be prime

minister given all the challenges that the country is facing at the moment? rishi sunak will take up the job tomorrow. moment? rishi sunak will take up the job tomorrow— job tomorrow. thank you, nick. let's ick u- on job tomorrow. thank you, nick. let's pick up on the _ job tomorrow. thank you, nick. let's pick up on the economic— conversation with pauljohnson, director of the institute for fiscal studies. joining me now is pauljohnson, director at the institute for fiscal studies. how difficult are those choices he is going to have to make going to be? . . ., , , be? there are certainly some very difficult choices _ be? there are certainly some very difficult choices can _ be? there are certainly some very difficult choices can a _ be? there are certainly some very difficult choices can a vote. - be? there are certainly some very difficult choices can a vote. the i difficult choices can a vote. the public finances are not in a great position despite the undoing of most of the tax cuts that were announced months or so ago and one of the problem is i think that the new prime minister in his chancellor faces that given all the uncertainty that has been created over the last few weeks they may have to make more difficult decisions than they otherwise would have had to because the markets are somewhat stills booked and they are going to be wanting to see some clear and decisive action, perhaps more than they would have required had we not had all of this upset over the last few weeks. what that brings us back

to a question that has been asked a number of times since the so—called mini budget. he was in charge, in the end? is at the markets? —— who is in charge? the end? is at the markets? -- who is in charge?— is in charge? the markets in some sense of always _ is in charge? the markets in some sense of always in _ is in charge? the markets in some sense of always in charge. - is in charge? the markets in some sense of always in charge. we - is in charge? the markets in some sense of always in charge. we are| sense of always in charge. we are all parts of the markets. the decisions — all parts of the markets. the decisions we _ all parts of the markets. the decisions we as _ all parts of the markets. iie: decisions we as citizens all parts of the markets. tie: decisions we as citizens make matter enormously in terms of what happens in the economy but also the decisions are people who we are borrowing from as a nation. don't forget, this is all about was borrowing hundreds and hundreds of billions of pounds and someone has to be willing to lend is that money and if they stop being willing to lend is that money because they are unconvinced about the stability of the government or the extent to which their fiscal policies make sense and they don't have to lend is that money. —— to lend us that money. we are beholden to them but all that means is we need a sensible, sustainable, rational fiscal policy. we saw in september

the 23rd was a government deviating from thatjust quite some considerable degree. that still leaves an enormous amount of scope are very different policies. you can see that germany and france, the usa and australia have completely different sets of policies. they are all well economies in one sense or another. you just have to make choices within constraints and recognise those constraints so, yes, we have to do, we are constrained by what we do. we can'tjust do whatever we want because things cost money and we can'tjust magic up economic activity from nowhere and i think that is the mistake that the previous chancellor made. imilieu think that is the mistake that the previous chancellor made. when you sa there previous chancellor made. when you say there is — previous chancellor made. when you say there is an _ previous chancellor made. when you say there is an enormous _ previous chancellor made. when you say there is an enormous amount - previous chancellor made. when you say there is an enormous amount of| say there is an enormous amount of scope for different policies, how much scope as there? where are you thinking? the chancellor said it

would save £3 billion of public sending but then your estimate said there was still be a a0 billion hole? does that get ill by spending cuts? it is loss of spending cuts and the loss of tax rises —— or a loss of tax rises so how much scope is the first —— a lot of tax rises. 7 is the first —— a lot of tax rises. ? and short on questions. long term we need to decide whether we want to be a country more like most of those in western europe whether a much higher levels of tax and much higher levels of public spending that we have here or whether we want to be a country like some of the others from the anglophone countries in the oecd, the us, australia, canada, 0ecd, the us, australia, canada, which have lower levels of tax at lower levels of spending. but we cannot have, obviously, is low tax on high spending so that is what i meant by the scope of the choices that are available. in the shorter term, it looks like we're going to have to have either some relatively

modest increases in taxation or some quite difficult cuts in spending in order to get us towards a fiscally sustainable position but we are in the midst of huge economic uncertainty so i think the ideal position to be and would be to say, actually, we're not going to make big decisions in the short run. we are going to wait and see where we are going to wait and see where we are in the year or two and that is why, that is where i do wonder whether the current uncertainty makes that perfectly sensible decision more difficult to achieve because everything is so spooked that saying we will make those hard decisions in the year or two might look even less credible than it would have done just a few months ago. studio: what is your sense of what it is going to look like? it has been said it is going to be austerity that is going to be a lot harder than it was under the coalition government because of what is happening with inflation? weill.

is happening with inflation? well, even if the government, - is happening with inflation? well, even if the government, the - even if the government, the chancellor doesn't make any further decisions the next couple of years are going to be quite difficult for the public spending perspective because, of course, the public spending plans were put in place a year ago when we expected inflation to be only two or 3% and it is turning out a 10%. we have already seen that in terms of public sector pay going up much, much less quickly than prices and rather less quickly than prices and rather less quickly than paying the private sector and thatis than paying the private sector and that is likely to continue over the next couple of years so continuing to pay our teachers and nurses and so on much less in real terms than they have historically been used to is going to be very difficult to achieve. if you want to do more than that, if you want to cut spending further, particularly, of course, as we have come off a decade of incredibly tight spending settlements that is going to be very hard and we look at the big spending the biggest by far is the health service but i don't see any government cutting the health service. the next is pensions, we have already seen the government not wanting to reduce pensions. in

working age welfare which goes the poorest people in the country, then education. where'd you get significant cuts out all of those genuinely politically and economically hard? genuinely politically and economicall hard? ., ,, , economically hard? thank you very much, economically hard? thank you very much. paul— economically hard? thank you very much, pauljohnson _ economically hard? thank you very much, pauljohnson from - economically hard? thank you very much, pauljohnson from the - much, pauljohnson from the institute for fiscal studies and just to say that we are looking at the palace of minster and this is where despite palace of westminster and that is where rishi sunak is currently speaking to mps. as the incoming prime minister he is behind closed doors so we don't have cameras on it but word will start to come out about what is being said and we are keeping a watchful eye on that and we'll bring you comments from inside. that closed session. as soon as we hear any word. we can now go to fiona trott who is

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in the future. studio: thank you very much, fiona. let mejust bring studio: thank you very much, fiona. let me just bring you some of the flavour of what is going on behind closed doors where rishi sunak is addressing tory mps. our political correspondent says he went into a room of backbench tory mps accompanied by some of his loyal backers and achieved a rapturous round of applause and banging a fists on desk by tory mps in the room. remember, a lot of them wanted him to be prime minister earlier this summer, too, after he came top of the mps rounds of voting in the first leadership race and that was before he lost out to liz truss in the party members vote. he is currently speaking to them. how much he will be revealing of his programme of government we have yet to find out because he has not found out or said anything in common damn camera in terms of what his plans will be, but we had when it was confirmed he would be standing to be

tory leader and it was just a tweet outlining his desire to do that so there is going to be a lot obviously of questions being asked of him inside the meeting enters the pledges he will be making. he is going to have a very full in tray. he has got to prepare for that new fiscal statement next week. the economic situation is significantly worse than it was when liz truss took office. higher mortgage rates, energy bills and inflation are all combining to make it a very tough winterfor many people. combining to make it a very tough winter for many people. the combining to make it a very tough winterfor many people. the nhs combining to make it a very tough winter for many people. the nhs and the social care system are struggling and the war in ukraine which is driving those high energy bills continues to grind on. speaking before it was announced that rishi sunak would be the next prime minster, scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon said any change at the top is bad news the scottish people. you change at the top is bad news the scottish people.— change at the top is bad news the scottish people. you know, however it is in number— scottish people. you know, however it is in number ten, _ scottish people. you know, however it is in number ten, and _ scottish people. you know, however it is in number ten, and let's - it is in number ten, and let's assume it is going to be rishi sunak, chancellor, the member, who has already been one of the authors of the economic and cost—of—living

crisis that the uk is living through right now but whoever it is, the real worry is the next phase of austerity that a week today is going to be unleashed. that is what scotland needs an alternative to because it is not inevitable. it has been made to the case by brexit, by tory economic mismanagement, it does not have to be this way end labour to a certain extent as well want us to a certain extent as well want us to believe that life outside union with these austerity cuts is as good it gets. austerity cuts is as good as it gets, it shouldn't be as good as it gets and for scotland it's not as good as it gets, we need an alternative to that. well, look, rishi sunak will be yet another tory prime minister that scotland hasn't voted for. and if scotland was given the opportunity today, i would bet my bottom dollar that scotland would not vote for rishi sunak as prime minister. so this is the position scotland is in, having to cross our fingers and hope for the least worst option in terms of the uk government.

and again, i would say we can do better than this. we can choose our own governments and we can actually apply our own values to leading scotland on the track that we want rather than being taken down the wrong track by successive uk governments. back in the european union and in charge of our own destiny. that's what independence offers scotland, and it's gotta better than this chaos and economic carnage that is being inflicted on us by one tory prime minister after another. that's what independence offers scotland, and it's got to be better than this chaos and economic carnage that is being inflicted on us by one tory prime minister after another. nicola sturgeon. let's talk now to the political historian at university college london, dr sam blaxford. welcome. we have ourfifth conservative prime minister in six years. give us your perspective as a historian. ~ , historian. well, it is unprecedented. i historian. well, it is unprecedented. we| historian. well, it is i unprecedented. we say historian. well, it is - unprecedented. we say that historian. well, it is _ unprecedented. we say that all the time but this genuinely is. the conservative party used to make a virtue of having leaders who were in position for a very long time, people who are very loyal to them and now we have had the succession of quite short term for ministers who have been by historic standards

quite lightweight and itjust doesn't reflect very well on the party and of course it doesn't really bode well for the country either. there has been very significant issue that especially with liz truss but to an extent borisjohnson as well the decision about who primaries should be was found at the conservative party members and that is not historically a very consistent thing that has been done and it is a very recent thing in the 2000 and what we've seen today with being selected having to go to a concert asked amongst the members was much more consistent with the longer term ways of doing things and that is actually much more coherent and constitutional way of selecting a prime minister because ultimately the violence it needs to command the support of their fellow mps and thus is one of the reasons why liz truss failed. to is one of the reasons why liz truss failed. ., ~' is one of the reasons why liz truss failed. ., ~ ., , ., ., , failed. to think that is going to be conducive to _ failed. to think that is going to be conducive to greater _ failed. to think that is going to be conducive to greater unity - failed. to think that is going to be conducive to greater unity going i conducive to greater unity going forward for him? it conducive to greater unity going forward for him?— conducive to greater unity going forward for him? it cannot be a bad thint for forward for him? it cannot be a bad thing for him. _ forward for him? it cannot be a bad thing for him. i _ forward for him? it cannot be a bad thing for him, i would _ forward for him? it cannot be a bad thing for him, i would imagine, i thing for him, i would imagine, because at the end of the day you need to get your business to the house of commons by having a

backbench mp supporting you and it is very clear from the numbers rishi sunak has amassed in the last couple of days that he is the one that can achieve that. there is always some temptation to bring borisjohnson back because despite all his flaws and all his failings and looming privileges committee is he was a very good campaigner but ultimately he was tarnished and is someone who might be out out to people across the country but also someone who might be able to command the support of his mps which is the really crucial thing they but let's not be, let's be frank about this. at the end of the day, seen that faces a set of challenges that are almost again unprecedented. —— sumac. support for the conservative party is a absolute rock bottom oldham and it was a button anyway after ten years of government when governments tend to get tired and get a favour but what is happening asked few weeks which looks terribly self—indulgent on the part the

conservative party coming having this longley contest and is very stalked so much short stint of liz truss is by mr sunak is going to have to do a lot to pull back here. might make the loss of cult the general election here but no constitutional imperative for that. back this meant there are a lot of calls for a general election. do you expect schools to remain? i expect this culture remained i do not expect them to be conceded because if they call an election now they will probably lose hundreds of seat space in the current polling. there is no need to have a general election and we don't that in prime minister be voting parties in the conservative party has a majority in parliament at the moment and that is what matters that i do sympathise with people, political opponents, members of the public and the people who just speaking to a moment ago. people who say they want a general election because if you just say prime minister after finalist rafter prime minister after finalist rafter prime minister after finalist rafter prime minister who then go and try

different things you understand why they might want essay but constitutionally there is no meeting. constitutionally there is no meeting-— constitutionally there is no meetin.. ., ,, , meeting. doctor sam black splits, tolitical meeting. doctor sam black splits, political historian _ meeting. doctor sam black splits, political historian from _ meeting. doctor sam black splits, political historian from universityl political historian from university couege political historian from university college london, thank you very much forjoining us. with me as a political correspondent nick eardley. how do you expect things to unfold from here? i eardley. how do you expect things to unfold from here?— unfold from here? i think this sunak will become — unfold from here? i think this sunak will become primus _ unfold from here? i think this sunak will become primus of— unfold from here? i think this sunak will become primus of the _ unfold from here? i think this sunak will become primus of the public- will become primus of the public tomorrow now. the logistics of getting it done today are fully too much so that moment where liz truss emerges, leads —— leaves, goes to the palace and then the king of ives and will have a transition for the first time and then rishi sunak comes back here and addresses the nation that will probably happen tomorrow. i expect a lot of people will want to hear from any payments to before then given that he has said nothing publicly as part of this campaign apart from a couple of tweets. i have spoken to one mp who was in that they were in the 1922

committee who says they were impressed by mr sunak. he said that the party needed to unite and to get on with delivering a cabinet that had over talents in it and maybe a hint that he is going to look at a broad range of the party to try and get some sort of unity. it is likely to be tomorrow that we get these big moments where rishi sunak sets out his vision to the country, tells us he was going to be in the cabinet and whetherjeremy hunt remains as chancellor, for example, who else he wants in his top team. it is going to be in a really significant moment because the challenges that mr sunak is going to face in that famous black door are quite something, you know? economic challenges, political challenges, that he faces as a conservative prime minister given the turmoil of the last few years and his party are going to be significant as well.—

and his party are going to be significant as well. what does he stand for? _ significant as well. what does he stand for? what _ significant as well. what does he stand for? what is _ significant as well. what does he stand for? what is his _ significant as well. what does he stand for? what is his brand i significant as well. what does he stand for? what is his brand of. stand for? what is his brand of conservatism?— stand for? what is his brand of conservatism? . . ., ., ., ~' conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got _ conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got a _ conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got a good _ conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got a good idea _ conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got a good idea over- conservatism? welcome the look, i think we got a good idea over the i think we got a good idea over the summer that he wants to govern in a way that balances the books, that doesn't borrow a lot of money for everyday spending on government initiatives all cutting taxes or anything like that right liz truss did. you will be different to that. i suspect he will want to balance the books as quickly as he can and make it clear he wants to do that but it is a really interesting question, joanna, because we heard from rishi sunak over the summer where he almost became defined as not liz truss. his warnings were all about liz truss and what you planned. his allies would say she was proved right. the big question is, given all the chaos we have seen over the last few weeks and the worsening economic picture is, what actual concrete decisions he is going to take now.— actual concrete decisions he is going to take now. thank you very

much, going to take now. thank you very much. nick. _ going to take now. thank you very much, nick, and _ going to take now. thank you very much, nick, and that _ going to take now. thank you very much, nick, and that is _ going to take now. thank you very much, nick, and that is the i going to take now. thank you very much, nick, and that is the key i much, nick, and that is the key question. he is currently speaking to conservative mps. how much detail he will be given to them is not likely to be going so much detail. what do know is that he received a warm welcome from those mps as he begins his new prime position as prime minister. now it's time for a look at the weather with stav. hello there. this upcoming week is remaining fairly unsettled with low pressure nearby and with low pressure to the west of us out in the atlantic, it means we're going to continue to see south or south westerly winds. so temperatures will remain above the seasonal norm throughout the week in all areas. and there will be further rain at times, but also some sunshine, too. but it's going to be very mild, both by day and by night. now, through this evening and overnight, any showers will affect more northern and western areas. it'll tend to stay drier further south and east that you are. and with the breeze, the cloud, temperatures no lower than around seven to 11 degrees. so very mild.

so here it is, our area of low pressure sitting out to the west of us, bringing in these south south—westerly winds where the front spiralling. weather fronts spiralling. the area of low pressure, though, will bring bouts of rain followed by showers at times, but actually tuesday, not looking bad at all. a lot of dry weather to start the day it stays dry. plenty of sunshine through central, northern and eastern areas, maybe just an odd shower around. but later in the day, we'll start to see this next feature pushing into the south west quadrant, bringing more substantial rain and another breezy day. lighter winds further north and east. so feeling very pleasant with temperatures up to 1a to 18 degrees. as we move into wednesday, this feature will bring wetter, windier weather to much of the north and the west of the country. and at this point, the middle part of the week, we'll start to see some very mild air moving up from the south for all areas, as you can see from the deeper orange colors there. so wednesday, then a more unsettled day. heavy rain will spill its way northwards, accompanied by strong winds. that'll be followed by blustery showers and sunny spells into the afternoon. some of these could be heavy and thundery, but a chance of staying dry and brighter further south and east where we could be

seeing temperatures reaching around the 20 celsius mark here, mid to high teens further north and west. similar stories we head into thursday, again, run of south or south westerly winds, further showers at times. some of these could be quite heavy initially across england and wales. they'll push northwards into scotland and northern ireland and into the afternoon. i think we should start to see some sunny spells developing and with that southerly breeze the sunshine could be very mild indeed. on thursday, perhaps up to 21, maybe 22 degrees across the southeast through the afternoon, high teens further north and west. and we hold on to that theme through friday and the weekend. very mild, quite breezy. most of the rain and showers in the north and the west better chance of staying dry with some sunshine in the south and the east.

this is bbc news, i'm joanna gosling, live from downing street where rishi sunak has just been announced as the uk's next prime minister and leader of the conservative party. i can confirm that we have received one valid parliamentary ballot. cheering and stamping. and rishi sunak is therefore elected as leader of the conservative party. cheering and stamping. the former chancellor will become the uk's first british—asian prime minister, and the youngest for more than a century. as seniorfigures in as senior figures in the party call for unity. as senior figures in the party call for uni . , ., ,., for unity. there is no point in refinint for unity. there is no point in refining the _ for unity. there is no point in refining the arguments i for unity. there is no point in refining the arguments of i for unity. there is no point in | refining the arguments of the summer. the only thing now in the

minds of my conservative parliamentary colleagues should be supporting the prime minister, supporting the prime minister, supporting the prime minister, supporting the british people. rishi sunak addresses conservative mps in private following the announcement. stay with us for updates throughout the day. good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. if you are watching in the uk or around the world. seven weeks after losing to liz truss in this year's first tory leadership contest, rishi sunak has emerged victor in this one. he is set become the uk's first british—asian prime minister, and will take office as the uk faces enormous economic challenges.

the ex—chancellor, who is addressing conservative mps in private around now, gained the support of well over half of the parliamentary party, with mordaunt struggling to reach the 100 mp threshold. rishi sunak is likely to formally become the prime minister tomorrow. king charles will be heading back to london this afternoon from sandringham, his estate in norfolk, and he will invite the ex chancellor to form a government. here the announcement of the winner was made by sir graham brady runs the committee running the contest in front of a group of noisy mps. good afternoon. as returning officer in the leadership election i can confirm that we have received one valid parliamentary ballot. cheering and stamping. and rishi sunak is therefore elected as leader of the conservative party. cheering and stamping.

graham brady making that announcement. let's take a look at our next prime minister. the former chancellor rishi sunak had been the favourite to succeed his old boss borisjohnson as prime minister after his resignation injuly. but he failed to persuade tory members, who ultimately put liz truss in downing street in september. mrsunak, who has not commented on the recent turmoil, said he was standing as pm to fix a "profound economic crisis" as well as unite his party. he became chancellor in february 2020 and within weeks found himself having to steer the uk economy as the pandemic and its lockdowns began. in april, the finances of rishi sunak and his family came under intense scrutiny, with the tax affairs of his heiress wife akshata murthy placed in the spotlight. she later announced she would start paying uk tax on her overseas earnings to relieve political pressure on her husband.

rishi sunak is a practising hindu, and will become the first asian prime minister. it is diwali today and when he was chancellor two years ago and it was diwali he lit the candles outside number 11 downing st said it was one of his proudest moments of his political career, so potentially tonight he could be lighting those candles outside number 10. i'm joined now by our chief political correspondent nick eardley. might he be a number 10 before the end of the day? i might he be a number10 before the end of the day?— end of the day? i think it's unlikely. _ end of the day? i think it's unlikely. i _ end of the day? i think it's unlikely, i think _ end of the day? i think it's unlikely, i think the i end of the day? i think it's i unlikely, i think the logistics of getting liz truss out and getting the king ready to receive both ms truss and mr sunak and getting mr sunak in probably mean it is tomorrow that rishi sunak formally becomes prime minister seven weeks to the days since liz truss took over here. it will be a really significant and difficult moment because mr sunak takes over in

really challenging economic times. challenging economic times to have got considerably worse since the leadership election that we saw over the summer. and standing here this afternoon, we are in the extraordinary position where we know there will be a new prime minister, probably this time tomorrow, we know who they are. we haven't heard them say anything about what they want to do beyond a statement confirming that they were standing. mr sulek has just been appearing before conservative mps. i think he will probably want to speak to the nation at some point. but there will be that moment tomorrow afternoon will stand in front of the nation and we'll have to set out how he intends to steer the ship economically and how he intends to get things running smoothly again. irate how he intends to get things running smoothly again-— how he intends to get things running smoothly again. we have a tweet from liz truss saying. _ smoothly again. we have a tweet from

liz truss saying, "congratulations, i liz truss saying, "congratulations, rishi sunak command being appointed as leader of the conservative party and our next prime minister. you have my full support." well, she goes down in history as being the shortest serving prime minister, and he is the youngest for a very, very long time. he is the youngest for a very, very long time-— he is the youngest for a very, very lont time. . . ., ., ., , , long time. what a turnaround because it was only seven _ long time. what a turnaround because it was only seven weeks _ long time. what a turnaround because it was only seven weeks ago _ long time. what a turnaround because it was only seven weeks ago today i it was only seven weeks ago today that ms truss fairly comfortably beat mr sunak in the leadership campaign with the vote of conservative members who seemed to like her pledge for lower taxes, to govern in a more conservative way. they are not going to get that with mr sunak. he is going to have to tighten belts. that means that i think in the immediate term tax cuts are off the agenda. remember that towards the end of the last campaign mr sunak was promising some pretty big tax cuts over the next few years to bring down come tax by ap by the end of the next parliament. no word from his campaign yet over whether

that prospect is still there but the new chancellorjeremy hunt has made it clear they can't even take income tax down by a penny which has been postponed indefinitely. likewise, for mr sunak, the big question about what he wants to do on energy support. he was promising targeted interventions during the leadership campaign over the summer. liz truss is spending a lot of money on getting people through the next six months. her plan to do it for two years was curtailed by the new chancellor but mr sunak has to set out his plans on that. so you know, i'd like to tell you a lot more about what mr sunak wants to do when he's in there tomorrow but we don't know for sure and it will be his responsibility to start setting that out to the country very, very soon. thank you. we are only a week away from the fiscal statement which is going to be outlined by the

chancellorjeremy hunt. we expect him to still be in the position of chancellor command that will be giving detail on what the economic plans will look like going forward. let's go to our correspondent helen catt who is in central lobby. what's the mood among tory mps? it has been bus in the the mood among tory mps? it has been busy in the last — the mood among tory mps? it has been busy in the last couple _ the mood among tory mps? it has been busy in the last couple of— the mood among tory mps? it has been busy in the last couple of hours i busy in the last couple of hours that i have seen it in the last while and all of the talk is of unity but in terms of what rishi sunak might do as prime minister and what he is promising i have somebody who may be able to shed some light on that for us, miriam cates, the mp for penistone and stocksbridge in south yorkshire. rishi sunak has been talking to conservative mps in the last hour. what has he said to you? the last hour. what has he said to ou? �* , ., , the last hour. what has he said to ou? �*, ., ,., the last hour. what has he said to ou? �*, ., , you? he's told us about his manifesto _ you? he's told us about his manifesto really _ you? he's told us about his manifesto really which i you? he's told us about his manifesto really which to i you? he's told us about his i manifesto really which to stand on the 2019 _ manifesto really which to stand on the 2019 manifesto, that is what we were all— the 2019 manifesto, that is what we were all elected on, there hasn't changed. — were all elected on, there hasn't changed, our manifesto commitment to unite. _ changed, our manifesto commitment to unite. level— changed, our manifesto commitment to unite, level up and deliver on the promises — unite, level up and deliver on the promises of brexit which we are still yet — promises of brexit which we are still yet to— promises of brexit which we are still yet to complete so it is very much _ still yet to complete so it is very much about that, continuing the manifesto. i think also he called on

us to— manifesto. i think also he called on us to be _ manifesto. i think also he called on us to be united and that's been well reported _ us to be united and that's been well reported i— us to be united and that's been well reported. i think very astutely pointed — reported. i think very astutely pointed out that most of our divisions— pointed out that most of our divisions as a party over the lack six months — divisions as a party over the lack six months have been so widely reported. — six months have been so widely reported, not really about policy. of reported, not really about policy. of course — reported, not really about policy. of course there are policy differences in a broad church in the conservative party but actually it's been _ conservative party but actually it's been much — conservative party but actually it's been much more about personality and character— been much more about personality and character and the kind of events that have — character and the kind of events that have been so widely reported. a lot of— that have been so widely reported. a lot of that _ that have been so widely reported. a lot of that political discord and turmoil— lot of that political discord and turmoil has been our own fault, let's— turmoil has been our own fault, let's be — turmoil has been our own fault, let's be honest, but it's been the division — let's be honest, but it's been the division is — let's be honest, but it's been the division is about personality rather than policy— division is about personality rather than policy that have brought us to the situation. he pointed out that we can— the situation. he pointed out that we can unite around the policy. my will we can unite around the policy. will that we can unite around the policy. ii will that change if we can unite around the policy. ii1: will that change if it's about personality because it's the same people in parliament, that hasn't changed? i think who the leader is has a huge impact on how willing mps are to follow their leader, there is no leader without followers. what are to follow their leader, there is no leader without followers. what we saw at the end _ no leader without followers. what we saw at the end of _ no leader without followers. what we saw at the end of boris _ no leader without followers. what we saw at the end of boris johnson's i saw at the end of boris johnson's time _ saw at the end of boris johnson's time in _ saw at the end of boris johnson's time in office, i supported boris johnson — time in office, i supported boris johnson to— time in office, i supported boris johnson to the last, was an increasing proportion of mps who 'ust increasing proportion of mps who just were — increasing proportion of mps who just were not willing to follow him as leader~ —

just were not willing to follow him as leader. have seen that with liz. but rishi _ as leader. have seen that with liz. but rishi sunak overjust three days has garnered the support of nearly two thirds — has garnered the support of nearly two thirds of the party who are willing — two thirds of the party who are willing to — two thirds of the party who are willing to back him.— two thirds of the party who are willing to back him. some of those are 'ust willing to back him. some of those are just doing _ willing to back him. some of those are just doing that _ willing to back him. some of those are just doing that for _ willing to back him. some of those are just doing that for unity, i willing to back him. some of those are just doing that for unity, there | are just doing that for unity, there is probably the core of real rishi sunak believers would arguably be a lot smaller. ii sunak believers would arguably be a lot smaller. , ., ,. sunak believers would arguably be a lot smaller. , ., «i . «i ., lot smaller. if you think back to 2019 and the _ lot smaller. if you think back to 2019 and the leadership i lot smaller. if you think back to 2019 and the leadership race i lot smaller. if you think back to i 2019 and the leadership race boris johnson _ 2019 and the leadership race boris johnson won in the final round of mps voting he only got 51% of the votes _ mps voting he only got 51% of the votes serve because he was a well loved _ votes serve because he was a well loved and — votes serve because he was a well loved and liked leader with a lot of respect _ loved and liked leader with a lot of respect but it wasn't case he commanded the vast majority of the parliamentary party. i think the key thing _ parliamentary party. i think the key thing is _ parliamentary party. i think the key thing is no — parliamentary party. i think the key thing is no leader is ever going to have _ thing is no leader is ever going to have the — thing is no leader is ever going to have the full support of the whole party. _ have the full support of the whole party. we — have the full support of the whole party, we are too broad a church but what _ party, we are too broad a church but what they— party, we are too broad a church but what they need to have is the respect — what they need to have is the respect of those people who wouldn't necessarily call that person their first choice will stop rishi sunak has the — first choice will stop rishi sunak has the respect of our party. can he win in constituencies _ has the respect of our party. can he win in constituencies like _ has the respect of our party. can he win in constituencies like yours? i win in constituencies like yours? that isn't actually a question for now because the question for now is can we _ now because the question for now is can we stabilise the economic situation _ can we stabilise the economic situation and can we use this ability— situation and can we use this ability to— situation and can we use this ability to deliver on our manifesto commitments? at the end of the day when _ commitments? at the end of the day when the _ commitments? at the end of the day when the next general election comes we will—

when the next general election comes we will be _ when the next general election comes we will be judged on that, have we delivered _ we will be judged on that, have we delivered on levelling up and our other— delivered on levelling up and our other promises?— delivered on levelling up and our other-romises? , . . , . «i other promises? miriam cates, thank ou ve other promises? miriam cates, thank you very much- _ other promises? miriam cates, thank you very much. one _ other promises? miriam cates, thank you very much. one initial _ other promises? miriam cates, thank you very much. one initial response i you very much. one initial response for you, as you heard, rishi sunak as the new conservative leader has been talking to his mps in parliament and we will have to wait a bit longer to hearfrom him to speak to the country. a bit longer to hear from him to speak to the country.— a bit longer to hear from him to speak to the country. thank you, helen. speak to the country. thank you, helen- m _ speak to the country. thank you, helen. i'mjust _ speak to the country. thank you, helen. i'm just seeing _ speak to the country. thank you, helen. i'm just seeing he i speak to the country. thank you, helen. i'mjust seeing he has i speak to the country. thank you, | helen. i'mjust seeing he has told helen. i'm just seeing he has told mps there will not be a general election. that's the intention, there will not be a general election. there needs to be party unity and discipline in order to avoid a general election. let's see whether that's delivered. but by the fact that he's been anointed by the support of his mps is indicating some mps are saying, some experts say, there is more likely to be unity going forward. rishi sunak is of course going to be the uk's next prime minister after penny mordaunt dropped out of the

tory leadership race in the final minutes before nominations closed. let's get more reaction to it by professor sirjohn curtice, professor of politics at strathclyde university, welcome.— professor of politics at strathclyde university, welcome. good afternoon. will come to — university, welcome. good afternoon. will come to him _ university, welcome. good afternoon. will come to him saying _ university, welcome. good afternoon. will come to him saying there i university, welcome. good afternoon. will come to him saying there will- will come to him saying there will not be a general election in a moment but first your reaction to the fact it is rishi sunak and he's done it without having to go to a wider vote. to done it without having to go to a wider vote-— done it without having to go to a wider vote. ., , ., , ., .,, wider vote. to be honest that was the direction _ wider vote. to be honest that was the direction in _ wider vote. to be honest that was the direction in which _ wider vote. to be honest that was the direction in which this i wider vote. to be honest that was the direction in which this contest| the direction in which this contest was heading for quite a while. it was heading for quite a while. it was pretty clear within hours of borisjohnson indicating that he might attempt to enter the contest is that while there was undoubtedly a body of mps who are loyal to him and that he would indeed certainly do pretty well amongst the membership, though by no means guaranteed to win, that he might well struggle to form an administration because there would be so many mps who wouldn't be willing to take part in a boris johnson led government, that he would be in trouble and he also got

reminded about his involvement in partygate. i think the truth is that a realistic assessment of boris johnson's chances at the moment, the moment it became clear he might try, was his chances did look very good indeed. penny mordaunt�*s problem was rather different, at the end of the day she's just not well enough known to be somebody to be able to convince mps that she should be taking on somebody like rishi sunak at this point, given that the problem the conservatives face above all now is the way in which their credibility has been squandered by the economic events of the last four weeks. and that above all what the conservatives have to do in the next two years is try to turn both the finances of the government around, and in the wake of that trying to turn the economy around, both of which are at the moment sitting in accident and emergency in bad need of some political and economic

medicine. . of some political and economic medicine. , ,, ., «i of some political and economic medicine-— of some political and economic medicine. , ,, ., «i medicine. rishi sunak has said there will not be an _ medicine. rishi sunak has said there will not be an early _ medicine. rishi sunak has said there will not be an early general- will not be an early general election. will that be within his gift? will there be the unity that is required for that to be the case? you are right, the only reason why mr su's wish not to have a general election would not be able to hold water is if he's not able to maintain the confidence of the house of commons, that gets us back to the crucial question, can he get his party more united? i think he will have fewer problems than boris johnson would have had. but he will certainly have problems and he will certainly have problems and he will certainly find that on a day—to—day basis the combination of personal animosities and ideological division will mean that he may well have to duck and weave and attack on various occasions in order to avoid defeat inside the house of commons. his

first difficult task will be to work out how to deal with the tax increases and spending cuts. there are some conservative mps who would prefer to see spending cuts rather than tax increases but others that feel that spending cuts means doing particular damage to the poor, including those on welfare benefits and they will not be happy. he's going to have to negotiate a potentially difficult path there. levelling up, we discovered during his own leadership campaign in the summer that levelling up means different things to different people and it can cause a certain amount of animosity amongst conservative mps and members in the south of england. brexit, the party isn't divided over the principle of brexit, but there are still arguments about how it should be implemented, and that's going to come to the fore very quickly, the government will have to decide by friday as to whether or not to allow an election in northern ireland to go ahead given that the

dup are not still willing to form an administration because of the northern ireland protocol. so there are plenty of potential headaches here. but the fact that he has managed, in effect, to achieve a coronation will give him an early boost of authority inside his party. he will also be helped if command is probably reasonably likely, that there is at least some recovery in there is at least some recovery in the conservative position in the polls, and that therefore he can demonstrate to his mps that there is at least some short—term political dividend in the fact he has become leader. ., , ,., dividend in the fact he has become leader. ., , ,, . ., . leader. professor sirjohn curtice, thank yod — leader. professor sirjohn curtice, thank you. let's _ leader. professor sirjohn curtice, thank you. let's get _ leader. professor sirjohn curtice, thank you. let's get reaction i leader. professor sirjohn curtice, thank you. let's get reaction from the snp mp for aberdeen south stephen flynn. welcome. he has been anointed as the new conservative party leader, the new prime minister. does that mean it's looking less likely that you will get the general election that you

want to see? i get the general election that you want to see?— get the general election that you want to see? i think what we have 'ust heard want to see? i think what we have just heard in _ want to see? i think what we have just heard in relation _ want to see? i think what we have just heard in relation to _ want to see? i think what we have just heard in relation to the i just heard in relation to the general election is that rishi sunak is running scared, running scared of an election, just as he's running scared of an independence referendum which of course is our focus at this moment in time. to take a bit of a scottish focus of this, this is just another tory prime minister that the people of scotland didn't vote for. he is the tenth since 1955 and it highlights the real democratic deficit that sits at the heart of this union. obviously people right across the uk are reeling at this moment in time from the fact that we have a prime minister who is now going to be in place in the public haven't voted on but that's not uncommon for the people in scotland when it comes to tory prime ministers. when it comes to tory prime ministers-— when it comes to tory prime ministers. ., ., «i ., , , ., ministers. you talk obviously about the scottish — ministers. you talk obviously about the scottish perspective _ ministers. you talk obviously about the scottish perspective and i ministers. you talk obviously about the scottish perspective and the i the scottish perspective and the desire for an independence referendum which the snp have been very clear about. but if rishi sunak you can run a tight ship, if there is going to be unity, stability, we may be two years away from a general

election, and of course the position from westminster very much is this is not the time for an independence referendum. the is not the time for an independence referendum-— referendum. the unity and stability ofthe referendum. the unity and stability of the people _ referendum. the unity and stability of the people of— referendum. the unity and stability of the people of scotland _ referendum. the unity and stability of the people of scotland require i referendum. the unity and stability of the people of scotland require is governments that we vote for and governments that we vote for and governments that we vote for and governments that implement policies that are in our view the writer wants to do and that's why we have the scottish parliament and the snp are successful and the tories are not, yet despite that we still have tory governments imposed upon us time after time and this is just another example of that. rishi sunak, when you look at his policies, it's quite scary. this is a man who during the summer said quite clearly he was happy to take money from poorer areas to put it into wealthier communities, a guy who during the pandemic of course provide no financial support whatsoever to some 3 million people, the excluded, as they came to be known, and much like borisjohnson, rishi sunak was fined as a result of his actions during partygate. he's not quite clearly fit for office and has no mandate, notjust from the

people of the uk but for people in scotland. ,, , people of the uk but for people in scotland. . . , people of the uk but for people in scotland. ,, , , ., people of the uk but for people in scotland. . . , ., ,, scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank ou. scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank you. rishi _ scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank you. rishi sunak, _ scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank you. rishi sunak, who i scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank you. rishi sunak, who will- scotland. stephen flynn for the snp, thank you. rishi sunak, who will be l thank you. rishi sunak, who will be the next prime minister will have an in tray full of huge challenges, the economic situation is significantly worse than it was when liz truss took office, higher mortgage rates, energy bills and inflation are combining to make it a tough winter for many people. the nhs and social care system is struggling and the war in ukraine which is driving those high energy bills continues to grind on. the challenges facing the new prime minister, as i mentioned, are daunting. let's talk now to andy verity. that's right, there are huge economic challenges, we have at the moment what we call stagflation, combination of the economy stagnating in the worst inflation in 40 stagnating in the worst inflation in a0 years. the pound has devalued, losing more than a fifth of its value since the start of this calendar year. value since the start of this

calendaryear. but value since the start of this calendar year. but some of the signs on the market today have been signalling that this relief that borisjohnson isn't going back to downing street and perhaps also that rishi sunak is going to be the one to replace him as conservative party leader. so for example that key interest rate we have been watching, the yield on five year gilts, i will translate that for you, the cost of borrowing at a fixed interest rate over five years, whatever it costs the government is going to cost the mortgage lender is a bit more, so at the moment there has been a big move in that. when we had borisjohnson was not going to run the markets reacted by cutting that in other words saying the risks have listened, we don't need quite as much interest to compensate for our risk of lending to the uk government and it dropped by 30 basis points, 31 hundredths of a percentage point, 3i hundredths of a percentage point, so that was a relief, if you like, that the anxiety they had on friday which pushed the interest rates up was not there any more, and then they extended that after the news about rishi sunak by a few more points, so that is saying we're not worried about rishi sunak, at the least, and we are glad he's not

borisjohnson. —— 30 hundredths of a percentage point. we boris johnson. -- 30 hundredths of a percentage point-— boris johnson. -- 30 hundredths of a percentage point. we are a week away from the fiscal — percentage point. we are a week away from the fiscal statement _ percentage point. we are a week away from the fiscal statement and - percentage point. we are a week away from the fiscal statement and we - percentage point. we are a week away from the fiscal statement and we saw| from the fiscal statement and we saw what happened with the market reaction to the mini budget. the markets, as you were saying, all of priced in what they think a rishi sunak premiership will mean. that’s sunak premiership will mean. that's riaht, sunak premiership will mean. that's ri . ht, the sunak premiership will mean. that's right. they have _ sunak premiership will mean. that's right, they have priced _ sunak premiership will mean. that's right, they have priced in _ sunak premiership will mean. that's right, they have priced in what - right, they have priced in what jeremy hunt has done and the big question they will be asking now is whether we will still have the same thing from the chancellor, will we still have jeremy thing from the chancellor, will we still havejeremy hunt's plans on the table? they will be loathed to depart too much from that because of the risk of a bond market sell—off if they get it wrong. we should remember that even afterjeremy hunt trimmed back kwasi kwarteng's big tax cuts they are still spending substantially more than they planned to a few months ago because they are spending more on the energy bill help for households and businesses. that's a good 60 billion or so added to it. so they are not funding everything, they are not coming up with a corresponding tax rises or spending cut for everything the

government is giving away. there is a key question which is of timing. it's notjust a binary thing, either you do austerity or you get murdered on the markets, is the question of timing. you might do expansionary policies now, putting more money to households' finances, and businesses, to compensate for the energy price shock and do spending cuts and tax rises later further down the line in order to present a credible plan of this is how we get the finances back on track. what i think very few economists would advocate is going into recession you would want to do deep spending cuts and more austerity. we have learned the lesson from 12 years ago it went in the aftermath of the global financial crisis governments said we have to fix the financial crisis now and that led to weak growth and the worst decade for improvements in living standards in 200 years and they won't want to repeat those mistakes. . .. they won't want to repeat those mistakes. ., ,, , ., ., ., mistakes. thank you, and e. labour have reiterated _ mistakes. thank you, and e. labour have reiterated their— mistakes. thank you, and e. labour have reiterated their call— mistakes. thank you, and e. labour have reiterated their call for- mistakes. thank you, and e. labour have reiterated their call for a - have reiterated their call for a general election, as have the scottish national party and the liberal democrats. we can talk to

the deputy leader of the liberal democrats daisy cooper. welcome. what is your reaction to the an ointment of rishi sunak? he what is your reaction to the an ointment of rishi sunak? he is the third out of— ointment of rishi sunak? he is the third out of touch _ ointment of rishi sunak? he is the third out of touch conservative - third out of touch conservative prime minister and just as many months and the situation quite frankly is that people are sick and tired of this conservative chaos, that's why the liberal democrats are calling for a general election to be called right now. i’m calling for a general election to be called right now.— called right now. i'm so sorry, i couldn't hear— called right now. i'm so sorry, i couldn't hear you _ called right now. i'm so sorry, i couldn't hear you just _ called right now. i'm so sorry, i couldn't hear you just then - called right now. i'm so sorry, i- couldn't hear you just then because something was happening in my ear so i completely missed what you said. but you obviously are calling for a general election. rishi sunak has said there will not be a general election. if he can deliver stability and unity within his party, there won't be a general election, nothing can force one for another two years.— election, nothing can force one for another two years. what is important for rishi sunak _ another two years. what is important for rishi sunak and _ another two years. what is important for rishi sunak and the _ another two years. what is important for rishi sunak and the conservative | for rishi sunak and the conservative party to realise is that it is the

conservative party itself which has caused so much chaos and so much instability, and the only way to get rid of that chaos and instability is to remove the conservative party from government. there is overwhelming support across the country for a general election. i think it's outrageous we are now on the third conservative prime minister in just as the third conservative prime minister injust as many the third conservative prime minister in just as many months and the public are not being given a say in who they want to take the country forward and to solve these unprecedented crises. the fact is there has to be a general election because that's the only way we can move forward from the chaos and instability the conservative party itself has created.— instability the conservative party itself has created. what we see is the markets _ itself has created. what we see is the markets are _ itself has created. what we see is the markets are stabilising, - itself has created. what we see is the markets are stabilising, thatl the markets are stabilising, that rishi sunak, they have responded well to the thought that it was going to be rishi sunak as prime minister. if you are so concerned about stability, why not let that settle and see what happens? would that not be preferable to a general

election right now which would actuallyjust bring more uncertainty?— actuallyjust bring more uncertainty? actuallyjust bring more uncertain ? ., ,, , ., ., ,, ., uncertainty? the markets do appear to have improved _ uncertainty? the markets do appear to have improved slightly _ uncertainty? the markets do appear to have improved slightly but - uncertainty? the markets do appear to have improved slightly but the i to have improved slightly but the situation facing struggling families across the country has not. the fact is that rishi sunak refused to implement a proper windfall tax. he was supporting borisjohnson even when he was proven to be a liar and a lawbreaker. this is a man who boasted during the leadership contest during the summer about taking money away from poor communities and giving it to richer communities. we have a twin pandemic facing the nhs and care services and the health care services have been running to the ground by these successive conservative prime ministers and there are so many problems facing our country right now, and it's clearfrom months of infighting and years of infighting that the conservative party doesn't have a plan and cannot be trusted and they are out of touch and they should be out of government. thank ou for should be out of government. thank you forjoining _ should be out of government. thank you forjoining us. _ should be out of government. thank you forjoining us. let _ should be out of government. thank you forjoining us. let me _ should be out of government. thank you forjoining us. let me take - should be out of government. thank you forjoining us. let me take you i you forjoining us. let me take you live to the pictures we can see on

the screen outside conservative hq, we can see matt hancock talking with others as they wait for rishi sunak to come out on the steps of the conservative party's headquarters to speak to them gathered there. he's already been speaking to tory mps inside the commons behind closed doors. we know he got that meeting. he told the mps there will not be an early general election. with me achieve: donna political correspondent nick eardley. we are going to hearfrom them i think. jake berry, the conservative chairman there waiting for the new conservative leader because he is in that post already. rishi sunak will arrive at the party's headquarters just over the road from parliament. i'm guessing that if mr sunak is turning up publicly is likely to say

something publicly, given that we haven't heard from him in public since, in terms of policy, anyway, since, in terms of policy, anyway, since the leadership election that he lost, the one a few weeks ago, we have not heard from him as part of this leadership election either. i would have thought he would want to set out some views to the country. you can see just behind jake berry some of the mps who have been supporting mr sunak over the last few days. gibb, the former schools minister. just as i was figuring out who the rest were we the picture. but look, this is a really significant moment for rishi sunak. he thinks that he's been vindicated by what's happened over the last few weeks with the views he expressed over the summer. i'm hearing some cheering. it could be for someone else. i think that's alex chalk, the former solicitor general, being cheered. one of the ministers who resigned, helping to bring down

borisjohnson a few weeks ago. you can see a number of mr sunak�*s supporters gathered. mps who have been lobbying him over the last few weeks. someone a bit stressed, but getting a bit of a massage on their back, i think it was alex chalk. it is strange because the conservative party has been sophie brown, there are lots of people standing there smiling just now. you do get a bit of a sense chatting to tories on whatsapp over the last couple of hours, that they feel there is a bit of a weight being lifted from their shoulders. you can see the former scottish secretary david mundell, some of mr sunak�*s backers, all waiting for him to arrive at conservative hq in westminster, presumably to address them. liam fox, the former defence secretary at the bottom left there.— the bottom left there. when you say ou are the bottom left there. when you say you are getting _ the bottom left there. when you say you are getting a _ the bottom left there. when you say you are getting a sense _ the bottom left there. when you say you are getting a sense that - the bottom left there. when you say you are getting a sense that a - you are getting a sense that a weight has been lifted off the

shoulders, how important is it potentially for tory party unity, or at least the unity of mps that this has happened in the way that it has, that there hasn't been another divisive contest? i that there hasn't been another divisive contest?— that there hasn't been another divisive contest? , , , . ., , ., divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over _ divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over the _ divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over the next _ divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over the next 48 _ divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over the next 48 hours - divisive contest? i suspect what you will hear over the next 48 hours is l will hear over the next a8 hours is two very different accounts of what has just happened. two very different accounts of what hasjust happened. one two very different accounts of what has just happened. one will be opposition parties who will say these guys were behind liz truss just seven weeks ago when she became prime minister, they backed her and they can't be trusted with the economy now. you will hear from mr sue i can from his allies, including some of the mps we can see on screen outside conservative hq just now, you will hear from them an argument that this is a chance to turn things around and to get things right. i suspect they will try and pass off what has happened over the last few weeks is a bad dream. but that won't be easy because actually what mr sue neckis be easy because actually what mr sue neck is going to have to address

when he becomes prime minister, probably formally tomorrow he will have to address and economic situation which most people accept has been made a lot worse by the mini budget a few weeks ago, by some of the decisions that liz truss took. yes, globally there are big economic challenges which have made it more difficult for the uk economy. but the vast majority of mps you can see on your screen just now, they would argue that what happened over the last few weeks has made things more difficult. that's why liz truss was forced from office. that's why rishi sunak is about to take over in number 10. that's why he faces an enormous challenge over the next few weeks. really difficult challenges, a daunting intro, trying to turn around the economy and the electorate that the conservatives can still be trusted with the economy. many conservatives will

tell you privately that that will be a massive uphill struggle. opposition parties like labour will continue to say over the next few days that the conservatives have lost their reputation for fiscal management.— lost their reputation for fiscal management. lost their reputation for fiscal manauement. ., , ., ., management. labour said they are now the -a of management. labour said they are now the party of fiscal— management. labour said they are now the party of fiscal responsibility. - so we wait for rishi sunak to arrive at conservative ho. it is not very far from at conservative ho. it is not very farfrom parliament at conservative ho. it is not very far from parliament so at conservative ho. it is not very farfrom parliament so he has not got far to go so hopefully we will be hearing from sunak. it isjust over the road from the houses of parliament behind methodist central church in england, surrey, in london. it is, though, for the conservative party and moment where the hope will be, the hope of the people we can see lining the steps that will be that the party could start to move on and try and turn things around both politically and

economically. both of those things, joanna, are going to be extremely difficult for the conservative party politically because i suspect there will be a lot of people watching at home just now wondering why mr sunak can be in this position without a general election. there will be opposition figures who i expect will argue a lot over the next 2a hours that this needs to go to the country now. economically will be challenging as well because as we have been covering over the last few weeks on bbc news this is a very testing economic time. a lot of people are facing higher mortgage rates. there is a big decision for the bank of england next week about how much it is going to put interest rates up by and there is that massive moment which is due to take place a week today where the new chancellor ifjeremy hunt remains in thatjob we should get confirmation of the next 2a hours, he will set out to the country how he intends to balance the books and that will mean

difficult spending decisions, probably cuts that will be very unpopular, potentially tax rises, too. �* , ., , too. and in terms of the personnel in this new — too. and in terms of the personnel in this new government, _ too. and in terms of the personnel in this new government, you - too. and in terms of the personnel in this new government, you say l too. and in terms of the personnel. in this new government, you say that jeremy hunt, obviously chancellor is expected he will stay but not confirmed.— expected he will stay but not confirmed. ., u, expected he will stay but not confirmed. ., _, , ., confirmed. not confirmed. there is a sense that that _ confirmed. not confirmed. there is a sense that that is _ confirmed. not confirmed. there is a sense that that is likely. _ confirmed. not confirmed. there is a sense that that is likely. what - sense that that is likely. what about other figures? sense that that is likely. what about otherfigures? i sense that that is likely. what about other figures? i think rishi sunak will want his own team in there so expect there to be a lot of changes in the cabinet table. remember liz truss brought in mostly her allies, fellow travellers, ones who agreed with her on her economic direction. given rishi sunak doesn't i would expect him to say quite a few changes but i also expect him to see given what has happened over the last few weeks with the conservative party, given what we have heard rishi sunak tell the 1922 committee just after being elected, i think we are likely to see a slightly more diverse cabinet when it comes to

different wings of the conservative party that we saw under liz truss and actually result in the boris johnson some names that potentially could be in line for a big jobs, dominic raab, former deputy prime minister has been out to back deputy prime minister the same when the going got tough in the last leadership election. we going got tough in the last leadership election. we saw matt hancock there. _ leadership election. we saw matt hancock there. would _ leadership election. we saw matt hancock there. would he - leadership election. we saw matt hancock there. would he be - leadership election. we saw matt l hancock there. would he be hoping for a return to government? i suspect it will be hoping for it. whether it happens or not will be another question, one that rishi sunak will be weighing up. one thing i was told by his team this morning as they've not been having conversations with mps about who will take jobs because they were concentrating so much on the votes today that they just wanted to get that out of the way and were not being presumptuous but they will be thinking about it, will be thinking who they want those top offices of

state in the chancellorjob. do they keep jeremy state in the chancellorjob. do they keepjeremy hunt? my hunch is that for stability reasons that is likely? who do they want as home secretary? grant cheque is likely. he is a rishi sunak back and i wonder if his campaign will be like to keep him that —— grant shapps. will they want to change the foreign secretary? it is james cleverly at the moment, someone who backed liz truss in the last leadership election, who backed borisjohnson in this one, he said this morning he was now backing mr sunak. but there are lots of names in the mix, there are lots of names in the mix, there are a lot of allies of mr sunak who batted for him over summer even when it was a bit and pretty clear that liz truss was going to win. i would have my eye and a lot of them potentially walking up this famous street tomorrow to be given jobs in his top team. street tomorrow to be given “obs in his top team.— his top team. does he have to be careful about _ his top team. does he have to be careful about that _ his top team. does he have to be careful about that thing - his top team. does he have to be careful about that thing that - his top team. does he have to be careful about that thing that has | careful about that thing that has been criticised by some within the

party about politicians being promised something to back, you know, in order to... promised something to back, you know, in orderto... favour promised something to back, you know, in order to... favour being covered by promising jobs? yes. know, in order to. .. favour being covered by promising jobs? covered by promising “obs? yes, i think he does have _ covered by promising “obs? yes, i think he does have to_ covered by promising jobs? yes, i think he does have to watch - covered by promising jobs? yes, i think he does have to watch out . covered by promising jobs? yes, i l think he does have to watch out for that and i think it is a more positive picture now because of the need to reunite the conservative party. you can see lots of people standing to attention which suggest to me that we might be seeing the new minister arriving at conservative party hq in the second. i think that is his car pulling up. there we go. i think that is his car pulling up. there we go-— i think that is his car pulling up. there we io. ~ , there we go. the new prime minister likel to be there we go. the new prime minister likely to be in — there we go. the new prime minister likely to be in that _ there we go. the new prime minister likely to be in that car, _ there we go. the new prime minister likely to be in that car, i _ there we go. the new prime minister likely to be in that car, i think. - likely to be in that car, i think. yes, they are walking forward. applause applause a big cheer, presumably for rishi sunak. so that is the new prime minister hugging some of his key allies and shaking hands with the

conservative chairmanjake berry, alex trott, former assistant general there. mr sunak looks like he is going in the door without addressing the publicjust yet. as we have been talking about all afternoon, this is a strange moment, actually, where we are seeing the new prime minister and we know he has spoken to conservative mps behind closed doors but we have not heard anything from him in the last few days publicly about and there is a great deal of pressure on him to say something and there he is waving to the assembled crowd a nice photo opportunity for the new prime minister but there is a great deal of pressure on him now to say something, to tell the nation what he intends to do, what his guiding principles will be, perhaps to deliver a bit more clarity on

what his policies will be. we'll get some of that from him i expect tomorrow if that is the day that he formally takes over as prime minister. as i say, that he is, into conservative party ho. minister. as i say, that he is, into conservative party hq.— minister. as i say, that he is, into conservative party hq. very quickly one in. conservative party hq. very quickly gone in- no — conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no words _ conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no wordsjust _ conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no wordsjust yet. - conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no wordsjust yet. it - conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is - conservative party hq. very quickly gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is a l gone in. no words 'ust yet. it is a iood gone in. no words 'ust yet. it is a good moment — gone in. no words 'ust yet. it is a good moment to — gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is a good moment to take _ gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is a good moment to take stock- gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is a| good moment to take stock about gone in. no wordsjust yet. it is a - good moment to take stock about what will be going through his mind because you are saying it was so much on the agenda. the fact is when he lost that leadership contest only seven weeks ago he could have been out into the political wilderness for some time. it is extraordinary and would ought is thinking so soon after his fortunes are completely after his fortunes are completely after he comes back as prime minister and only the weekend there was the talk around whether boris johnson wanted to do a deal with him presumably again not to see him coming on as prime minister. i think ou are coming on as prime minister. i think you are absolutely _ coming on as prime minister. i think you are absolutely vital. _ coming on as prime minister. i think you are absolutely vital. until- you are absolutely vital. until early last week when it became clear the wheels were falling off the

telstra premiership, this is a net was out on the political wilderness. he wasn't someone that were expected to make an imminent return to front line politics. he was deliberately keeping his head down and from what i understand his team went liz truss announced her resignation got going pretty quickly on lobbying mps, realised there was a groundswell of support for him and we saw that this morning and a comfortable majority of mps declared publicly they would back him so i think he has a decent chance of getting the conservative party in parliament on side but there is still the wider question of is the conservative party membership going to be happy with mr sunak? going to be happy with the decisions he makes overnight for weeks? and what about the country. it is 2019 was the general election. by this time tomorrow that will be two prime ministers ago. it was borisjohnson

who went to the country, promised to get brexit done, won a majority on that basis. we have had liz truss since chaotic premiership that ended in disaster and now we have got mr sunak preparing to take over he will have questions about the mandate he has and whether he cares, can take the country forward in the argument i expect he will make is they need to be stability and a bit of time for khan to allow the economy to get back on track. i'm guessing by the fact we are seeing a lectern in conservative hq we are going to see from mr sunak after all is on point. the microphones i think that they give away theirjoanna and look, this is the moment we were just talking was a few minutes ago, rishi sunak�*s chance to tell the nation, tell the party membership what he wants to do with power, what is guiding principles will be, how he intends to get the economy back on track, how he intends to help people

through the cost of living crisis. a really big moment for a man who a week ago it looked like she was going to be in the political wilderness for some time. eta? going to be in the political wilderness for some time. stay with us. we wilderness for some time. stay with us- we are — wilderness for some time. stay with us- we are going — wilderness for some time. stay with us. we are going to _ wilderness for some time. stay with us. we are going to keep _ wilderness for some time. stay with us. we are going to keep an - wilderness for some time. stay with us. we are going to keep an eye - wilderness for some time. stay with us. we are going to keep an eye on| us. we are going to keep an eye on that podium because we did to see him go into that building. we are clearly going to be hearing from him shortly. we will be back there as soon as he starts to speak but while we keep an eye on this pictures lets also get some reaction from outside london. this woman is a young south asian who voted for this is the next seven weeks ago in the last conservative weeks ago that schmidt leadership base. digits that you'll be seeing him after that leadership contest went on a different direction?— contest went on a different direction? ~ �* , . direction? while i didn't expect it i must say _ direction? while i didn't expect it i must say i _ direction? while i didn't expect it i must say i am _ direction? while i didn't expect it i must say i am by _ direction? while i didn't expect it i must say i am by am _ direction? while i didn't expect it i must say i am by am delighted| direction? while i didn't expect it i i must say i am by am delighted the site so much as our prime minister. he is a very pragmatic conservative. he is a very pragmatic conservative. he knows and understands the economy and i think is the right man to tackle inflation and help us prevent

going into recession. you tackle inflation and help us prevent going into recession.— tackle inflation and help us prevent going into recession. you are happy it was british _ going into recession. you are happy it was british sunak _ going into recession. you are happy it was british sunak but _ going into recession. you are happy it was british sunak but what - going into recession. you are happy it was british sunak but what are i it was british sunak but what are your thoughts on the fact it didn't go to a wider party vote? honestly, i could have — go to a wider party vote? honestly, i could have seen _ go to a wider party vote? honestly, i could have seen a _ go to a wider party vote? honestly, i could have seen a wider _ go to a wider party vote? honestly, i could have seen a wider party - go to a wider party vote? honestly, | i could have seen a wider party vote get quite messy very quickly. in a way, i am glad that it has been resolved so quickly because one of theissues resolved so quickly because one of the issues was the fact that we don't have e—mails for everyone who is a member of the party. now, there would have been a chance that perhaps thousands would have been excluded from this process of mps resolving at this quickly is a good thing because that means we don't get those logistical technical issues of everyone guessing about. does it matter to you that he is the first prime minister of colour, the first prime minister of colour, the first prime minister of colour, the first prime minister of asian descent in this country? i first prime minister of asian descent in this country? i think it is something _ descent in this country? i think it is something to _ descent in this country? i think it is something to be _ descent in this country? i think it is something to be very - descent in this country? i think it is something to be very proud . descent in this country? i think it| is something to be very proud of. descent in this country? i think it - is something to be very proud of. we have a nation of aspiration and to someone like me he was a first—generation migrant, it is something that makes me incredibly happy because this shows that the uk is one of the most welcoming countries in the world for everyone

and rishi sunak proves that. find countries in the world for everyone and rishi sunak proves that. and it is diwali and _ and rishi sunak proves that. and it is diwali and when _ and rishi sunak proves that. and it is diwali and when he _ and rishi sunak proves that. and it is diwali and when he was - and rishi sunak proves that. and it is diwali and when he was chancellor he lit diwali candles outside the door at number 11 and he said that was one of the proudest moment actually the him of his political career. he can potentially now do that outside number ten. yes. career. he can potentially now do that outside number ten. yes, for everybody — that outside number ten. yes, for everybody celebrating _ that outside number ten. yes, for everybody celebrating that - that outside number ten. yes, for everybody celebrating that one i l everybody celebrating that one i would say we now have two reasons to celebrate. one is diwali itself and now receiving the pm. —— and now rishi being the pm. he now receiving the pm. -- and now rishi being the pm.— now receiving the pm. -- and now rishi being the pm. he is of course iioin to rishi being the pm. he is of course going to face _ rishi being the pm. he is of course going to face very _ rishi being the pm. he is of course going to face very difficult - going to face very difficult challenges facing the people of this country and people individually having to make very difficult decisions. how difficult you think thatis decisions. how difficult you think that is going to make his premiership?— that is going to make his premiership? that is going to make his --remiershi? . u, ., ., , premiership? welcome at what he is demonstrated _ premiership? welcome at what he is demonstrated with _ premiership? welcome at what he is demonstrated with getting _ premiership? welcome at what he is demonstrated with getting the i demonstrated with getting the nominations is showcasing to mps and members he can unite the parliamentary party. i think that was the first challenge for anyone going into this leadership contest. now he needs to just make sure he

keeps them united and i think she will need to be... he will need to make all sides of the party happy when he is appointed to his cabinet so i will be pretty keen to see who is on his cabinet because one of the mistakes liz truss made was she only had her allies in the cabinet. that just means you are open at grounds for a potential revolt so i would hope rishi keeps all sides of the party happy and then also reaches out to the wider membership as regularly as he can because at the end of the day members didn't have a vote so they do need to be kept happy in this process.— vote so they do need to be kept happy in this process. thank you very much _ happy in this process. thank you very much indeed _ happy in this process. thank you very much indeed for— happy in this process. thank you very much indeed forjoining i happy in this process. thank you very much indeed forjoining us, | very much indeed forjoining us, michelle. we can talk now to leader of the national association of head teachers union that is warning 90% of schools are going to run now cash next year with a covenant facing serious questions of how to fix the black hole public spending. i think

we are talking to simon kidwell. yes, we are talking to simon kidwell. ., yes, we are talking to simon kidwell.- hello. - yes, we are talking to simon kidwell.- hello. thank| yes, we are talking to simon i kidwell.- hello. thank you for kidwell. hello. hello. thank you for 'oinini us. kidwell. hello. hello. thank you for joining us- in _ kidwell. hello. hello. thank you for joining us. in terms _ kidwell. hello. hello. thank you for joining us. in terms of— kidwell. hello. hello. thank you for joining us. in terms of your - joining us. in terms of your concerns around what is happening with funding for schools, how worried are you? locate with funding for schools, how worried are you?— with funding for schools, how worried are you? we are incredibly worried are you? we are incredibly worried at school _ worried are you? we are incredibly worried at school because - worried are you? we are incredibly worried at school because we i worried are you? we are incredibly worried at school because we are l worried at school because we are facing a black hole in the finances. in the 2019 manifesto, the conservative government promised an uplift in funding that would restore real terms funding back to 2010 levels and we were encouraged by the amount of... in education. but we are now facing a £2 billion shortfall in that amount which is equivalent to 38,000 teachers sol am encouraged, i have heard earlier on bbc news saying that rishi sunak was going to unite the party by returning to 2019 manifesto promises and i would urge him to make sure that the education promised in 2019 is prioritised. has that the education promised in 2019 is prioritised-— is prioritised. has not already been superseded — is prioritised. has not already been superseded in _ is prioritised. has not already been superseded in terms _ is prioritised. has not already been

superseded in terms of— is prioritised. has not already been superseded in terms of what i is prioritised. has not already been superseded in terms of what is i superseded in terms of what is happening with inflation? i think the challenges _ happening with inflation? i think the challenges that _ happening with inflation? i think the challenges that schools i happening with inflation? i think the challenges that schools face | the challenges that schools face real term cuts throughout the last decades of 9% that was then the stored and to be restored by the end of this parliament we are looking at a 3% cut in real terms funding by the end of this parliament. if you look at private schools they have had a 2a% uplift in their real terms funding so schools have nowhere to go about for either making mass staff redundancies of increasing class sizes. we are really in a challenging position in schools. simon kidwell, thank you forjoining us. how would you describe rishi sunak in one word? a polling research company came up with a word cloud and people sent in their thoughts on this as a conclusion. rich is the overwhelming world alongside capable, ok, good and clever. chris hopkins is

political research director at setanta, is and hejoined as political research director at setanta, is and he joined as live from colchester. welcome, so some words that people associate with rishi sunak. words that people associate with rishi sunak-— rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich _ rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich is — rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich is going _ rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich is going to - rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich is going to grab i rishi sunak. yes, absolutely. i think rich is going to grab the | think rich is going to grab the headlines here. ultimately, it is the most eye—catching word on the page but i think it is really important to remember that this is, you know, will be essay is really important to remember that this is, you know, will be essays about almost any leader or any candidate we've asked that capable, ok, good, clever and smart of all very, very readable on this image is really important and actually pretty good start for rishi sunak. i think the concern obviously is what the largest word is given economic outlook of the uk faces at the moment ultimately rishi sunak may well be to seem to be sleight yes of touch. he is very wealthy and it is well documented how wealthy she is and whether he is therefore the person to lead britain through troubling economic times with seven people struggling does remain to be

seen but, yes, i guess in that sense it is not the greatest were to be dominating this cloud. iie it is not the greatest were to be dominating this cloud.— it is not the greatest were to be dominating this cloud. he has got the leadership — dominating this cloud. he has got the leadership through _ dominating this cloud. he has got the leadership through effectively dominating this cloud. he has got i the leadership through effectively a coronation. how important you think thatis coronation. how important you think that is to be? i coronation. how important you think that is to be?— that is to be? i think generally s-ieakin that is to be? i think generally speaking the _ that is to be? i think generally speaking the public _ that is to be? i think generally speaking the public are - that is to be? i think generally speaking the public are not i that is to be? i think generally l speaking the public are not that impressed because they weren't that impressed because they weren't that impressed when liz truss came to power that way but ultimately it does happen increasingly a lot in the uk is a parliamentary democracy therefore this can happen, you know? we did see in a polling and we have done for quite a while now since liz truss became prime minister it will intensify now that a second fire minister has been coronated, so to speak, without a general election i'm sure calls for an election would increase but ultimately the conservative mps at the moment given how far behind they are in the polls that would be like turkeys voting for christmas and i think rishi sunak has already ruled out an immediate general election today so, yeah, i don't think the cull is

that, however intent they get, are likely to contract.— likely to contract. chris hopkins, thank you- _ likely to contract. chris hopkins, thank you. let's _ likely to contract. chris hopkins, thank you. let's go _ likely to contract. chris hopkins, thank you. let's go to _ likely to contract. chris hopkins, thank you. let's go to our- thank you. let's go to our correspondent helen catt in central lobby in the houses of parliament. helen. ., , , ., , ., ~ , helen. hello, yes. lots of mps millini helen. hello, yes. lots of mps milling around _ helen. hello, yes. lots of mps milling around here _ helen. hello, yes. lots of mps milling around here for- helen. hello, yes. lots of mps milling around here for the i helen. hello, yes. lots of mps| milling around here for the last couple of hours giving their reactions. the talk is all a unity and how the party can move forward. of and how the party can move forward. of course, that is going to be challenged. we have seen quite a lot of division over the last few months over that summer leadership contest. now we have got the man had lost that now in charge so that is going to be quite a shift for the party to get behind and there is a spending in central lobby have said that, yes, they think that can be done and i was speaking earlier to someone who said, she is the mp for penistone in stoppage, and she said she felt the loss of this had been about personalities rather than policies but of course policies is going to be keeping to one we're going to be keeping to one we're going to be keeping to one we're going to have to find out in the

coming days what rishi sunak�*s platform is. coming days what rishi sunak's platform is— coming days what rishi sunak's -latform is. . ~' , ., . ~' platform is. thank you, helen, thank ou ve platform is. thank you, helen, thank you very much- _ platform is. thank you, helen, thank you very much. let's _ platform is. thank you, helen, thank you very much. let's go _ platform is. thank you, helen, thank you very much. let's go to _ you very much. let's go to northamptonshire and i were a news correspondentjoe black. no, we don't havejoe. let's bring in us here in downing street. we are waiting to hearfrom... it is a bit of a well. we are expecting to hear from rishi sunak shortly. yes. of a well. we are expecting to hear from rishi sunak shortly.— from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are iioin from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are going to _ from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are going to hear— from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are going to hear from _ from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are going to hear from him - from rishi sunak shortly. yes, we are going to hear from him in i are going to hearfrom him in conservative headquarters in westminster and we are expecting a statement from the prime minister elect about his plans for office, his big guiding principles. i don't think there are anyjournalists in there so i wouldn't expect there to be any questions when we hear from rishi sunak at the podium in the next few minutes' time but, look, as we've been talking about all

afternoon, it is a big moment because this hasn't been the normal campaign where ideas are tested, where there is a bit of a debate about what the right policies are. we had that over the summer and mr sunak was part of that so we know a bit about what he wants to do but a lot of the economic situation since then has changed. clearly, it has got worse and clearly there are going to have to be harder decisions made in the big question for rishi sunak when he addresses the nation for the first time since being a elected conservative leader and prime minister elect is just level with the public and just say, look, the next few months are going to be had. we are going to have to make some difficult decisions. that is exactly the message coming out of the treasury so i would expect mr sunak as a former chancellor to know that picture and to feel the need to deliver a similar sort of statement but it is a big moment came

politically. he needs to tell us all what he wants to do with power. and. what he wants to do with power. and, of course, what he wants to do with power. and, of course. liz — what he wants to do with power. and, of course, liz truss _ what he wants to do with power. and, of course, liz truss remains in downing street behind us but away from the cameras we won't, presumably, see anything from her until we have that moment when she goes to see the king and we don't know currently when that will be. i think that is right. we will probably see that tomorrow. my understanding is the logistics of getting it done todayjust to much so we're not going to see that transition moment today but we are likely to see it happen tomorrow. mr sunak is spending the afternoon, as we've seen just now, at conservative headquarters in central london where headquarters in central london where he is meeting his supporters and speaking to them and he is about to address the nation for the first time as conservative leader but, i mean, tomorrow is the moment, the kind of history moment where rishi

sunak will formally become prime minister, where we'll see liz truss walk out of number ten for the first time as the shortest serving prime minister in british history. she will try and put a face it will try and put a brave face on it and say here is what i we and say here is what i think we have donein and say here is what i think we have done in power. she when reducing week when she talked about reducing national insurance and that is about it, really. she will then go to see 7 kenyon for thirst kenyon for the first time and he be iyon for the first time and he be at n for the first time and he be at the r the first time and he be at the �*e�*test ti process 1e he will welcome liz truss, and he will welcome liz truss, except her resignation and invite sunak new sunak he new sunak hewill new sunak he will then to nak he will then to downing will then to downing street an make that here to downing street and make that address to the country outside address to the country from outside member but, as we can see the he is in westminsterjust ; -e the houses 7 the houses of i gggesite the houses of parliament his supporters egeeeite the houses ef pertiereeht his supporters have been where his supporters have been gathering. we can see some of them on screen now clapping away, clearly very that their man has

topjob. he is in that building the topjob. he is in that building at the moment and we are about to hear him speak to the country for the first time in quite a few weeks, actually. he has done a couple of events in parliament, very low key events in parliament, very low key events where he and thierry has spoken publicly but we have not really heard him talk about the big political issues of the day, the bigger economic challenges the country is facing since he was beaten by liz truss seven weeks ago. today. he beaten by liz truss seven weeks ago. toda . , ., , beaten by liz truss seven weeks ago. toda . , . , ,, ., today. he is a very well-known chancellor _ today. he is a very well-known chancellor not _ today. he is a very well-known chancellor not least _ today. he is a very well-known chancellor not least because i today. he is a very well-known chancellor not least because ofj today. he is a very well-known i chancellor not least because of what happened during the pandemic but it is easy to forget that he has been in politics active for very little time and chancellor his first and any cabinet position the two years now prime minister.— any cabinet position the two years now prime minister. well, look, his wife was meteoric. _ now prime minister. well, look, his wife was meteoric. he _ now prime minister. well, look, his wife was meteoric. he took - now prime minister. well, look, his wife was meteoric. he took over- now prime minister. well, look, his l wife was meteoric. he took over from william hague in this ct still occupies and you will remember that it was part of the chaos an earlier

era that led team mr sunak becoming chancellor. it was such a jarvis had just become borisjohnson's chancellor. it was such a jarvis had just become boris johnson's first chancellor a few weeks into the job —— sajid javid. he was told that sajid javid couldn't keep his own aides and then he quipped. mr sunak came on as chancellor and within weeks was facing the turmoil of the pandemic, that extraordinary intervention that mr sunak are to oversee, the furlough scheme, the business support, hundreds of billions of pounds spent on propping up billions of pounds spent on propping up the british economy at a time of crisis in world. well, now, mr sunak is about to take over at number ten at a time of crisis and the economy and he is facing probably a similar sort of sort of level of challenge when it comes to getting inflation under control, its in government spending under control and trying to fill the fiscal black hole and trying to help millions of people

across the country who are struggling with the cost of people across the country who are struggling with the cost—of—living crisis. his in tray is daunting and he faces big, big challenges as prime minister.— he faces big, big challenges as prime minister. thank you, nick. let's io prime minister. thank you, nick. let's go to _ prime minister. thank you, nick. let's go to northamptonshire i prime minister. thank you, nick. | let's go to northamptonshire and prime minister. thank you, nick. i let's go to northamptonshire and a news correspondentjoe black and corby. joe. hi. news correspondent joe black and corb . joe. , , news correspondent joe black and corby- joe-— corby. joe. hi, yes, we have been takini to corby. joe. hi, yes, we have been taking to voters _ corby. joe. hi, yes, we have been taking to voters here _ corby. joe. hi, yes, we have been taking to voters here in _ taking to voters here in northamptonshire miles away from where you are in westminster about the fact that she see nick as the new payments. i have to say not many people were surprised but some people were surprised but some people said, you know, that isjust the way it is, that is just politics so we asked them what they wanted for prime minister. you will be surprised to learn that lots of them wanted him to focus on the economy. the cost of living was another one someone said to me, we spoke to a young teacher in his 20s and he and he said he can't afford a mortgage, friends of his can't afford a mortgage, he doesn't know it is going to do when his friend moves out of his rented property so cost of living, living places, really,

really on people's mind round here. i spoke to one lady who said she just wanted stability. she talked about how she was retired and she had investments and she wanted rishi to look after those investments because of that. she wanted him to bring the party together and stability are big words around here. i've also been struck by how many people and him of the borisjohnson are lots of them have told me they were very disappointed he stepped away from the contest and also it might surprise you lots of people round here still calling for a general election.— round here still calling for a general election. thank you very much, general election. thank you very much. joe- _ general election. thank you very much, joe. that _ general election. thank you very much, joe. that is _ general election. thank you very much, joe. that is something i general election. thank you very i much, joe. that is something rishi sunak has said will not be happening but in orderfor it sunak has said will not be happening but in order for it not to happen there needs to be political unity, political stability and he has been speaking to his tory mps in private. we are expecting to hear from him speaking in front of the cameras. he went into conservative party

headquarters just a little went into conservative party headquartersjust a little bit earlier. he didn't speak on camera. we saw him go into the building fairly quickly but there was a throng of his supporters outside and there was lots of cheering and hands shaking, no words in front of the cameras but we are expecting to hear from him shortly. nick eardley here in downing street with me as we await that. nick, it is going to be await that. nick, it is going to he obviously the first time that we hear him speak since been declared prime minister unchallenged. well, there was the challenge but it didn't go to vote in the end. how much detail would you expect him to give? much detail would you expect him to iive? ., . ., �* ,, , give? not much. i don't think she will io give? not much. i don't think she will go into _ give? not much. i don't think she will go into specific— give? not much. i don't think she will go into specific policies. i i will go into specific policies. i think this will be a broad outline, thanks to his campaign, probably, a bit of a message to the conservative party in the message to the country saying these are the broad principles that will guide his politics. it is normally that moment here in downing street where a prime minister outlines a bit more of

their big, grand vision for power. but my sense is that what mr sunak has to say will be dictated by the economy will be dictated by what's happened with the cost—of—living crisis, ratherthan happened with the cost—of—living crisis, rather than any grand vision of broader political ambition. mr sunak will know that people are worried about the economic climate, he will know how close to the breadline a lot of households are. at the moment. and i suspect that is something that he will feel that he has to address over the next few minutes. it will be a statement, is my understanding. i'm not expecting any questions from journalists so the scrutiny of his policies may have to wait for today but this is his first moment as conservative leader to stand up to the nation and say, he's what i want to do and it will be tomorrow, i expect, i don't think it has been formally confirmed just yet but i would expect it to be tomorrow that we get the transition

of power here where liz truss leaves for the last time and the new prime minister rishi sunak arrives back in downing street. remember, it was a a few weeks ago that he lived in number 11, few weeks ago that he lived in number", not few weeks ago that he lived in number 11, not that long ago that he resigned from borisjohnson's resigned from boris johnson's government resigned from borisjohnson's government but he will be moving into number ten for the first time and shortly we are expecting slightly ominous black screen just come up there, shortly we are expecting rishi sunak to make his first comments, in public anyway, since he became the prime minister elect. �* since he became the prime minister elect. . , ., since he became the prime minister elect. �* ,, . ~' since he became the prime minister elect. .,~ ., _ elect. and you talk, obviously, about the _ elect. and you talk, obviously, about the in — elect. and you talk, obviously, about the in tray. _ elect. and you talk, obviously, about the in tray. there - elect. and you talk, obviously, about the in tray. there are, l elect. and you talk, obviously, j about the in tray. there are, in terms of the challenges, there are always challenges, obviously, for any prime minister but in terms of how much they stack up right now it is a particularly difficult time, isn't it, because it is the problem isn't it, because it is the problem is with the country, with those choices to be taken on how to provide support for people when the

economy is already shrinking, the need to cut public spending and then iugghng need to cut public spending and then juggling of course the internal politics it is a colossal challenge. i think we have a rough idea from the summer of rishi sunak's sort of guiding principles that he wants to bring inflation down. he wants to try and keep the economy growing but without taking radical decisions like liz truss and crazy karting date. but he has also made it pretty clear —— —— like liz truss and kwasi kwarteng did. he doesn't want to do what liz truss did when she came and which is throwing money at the problem. he looks at that issue, the cost of energy and said we need to have an immediate solution and he said we need to cap that first for few years and the new chancellor

ripped that up on that guarantee is only there for a few months now but mr sunak has made it pretty clear he wants to privatise those he believes are more vulnerable and that could mean, we don't know for sure now and let's see what he said that someone better incomes are facing higher bills in the few months. the calls will not go _ bills in the few months. the calls will not go away _ bills in the few months. the calls will not go away from _ bills in the few months. the calls will not go away from opposition | will not go away from opposition politicians, obviously, of the nearby save for a general election. rishi sunak and said they not be one. this they need, they say, for general election. what would you say the prospects now and the general election? of eight receded a bit now he has come in with the party uniting behind him? i he has come in with the party uniting behind him?— he has come in with the party uniting behind him? i think they are low for the simple _ uniting behind him? i think they are low for the simple reason _ uniting behind him? i think they are low for the simple reason that i uniting behind him? i think they are low for the simple reason that you i low for the simple reason that you need conservative mps to back it and at the moment it would be a lot like turkeys voting for christmas because all the polls suggest that the conservatives would get hammered if there was a general election

tomorrow. we are going to see a lot of people over the next few days saying, you know, that there needs to be a general election as soon as possible. that is the view of the labour party, each is the view of the liberal democrats, it is the view of the snp, it is the view of some conservatives as well, nadine dorries, the follow—up culture secretary among those johnson allies who have said there now needs to be a general election but i am fairly confident that mr sunak will want to try and hold that for a while. he will make the argument, i suspect, but we need some stability after all the economic turmoil at the last few weeks. but he did face a lot of pressure. weeks. but he did face a lot of pressure-— weeks. but he did face a lot of ressure. , , ., pressure. let me 'ust say that liz truss's pressure. let me just say that liz truss's spokesperson _ pressure. let me just say that liz truss's spokesperson has - pressure. let me just say that liz i truss's spokesperson has confirmed that the handover definitely will not be happening today, as expected, so that moment when liz truss goes to the king, for resigns, king asks

rishi sunak to form the next government, none of that is going to be happening today. mi; government, none of that is going to be happening today-— be happening today. my money is still in tomorrow _ be happening today. my money is still in tomorrow for _ be happening today. my money is still in tomorrow for the - be happening today. my money is still in tomorrow for the simple i still in tomorrow for the simple reason that i suspect liz truss will want to get this over and done with as soon as possible. i suspect she won't want to do prime minister's questions, for example, on wednesday and mr sunak will want to get his feet under the table as quickly as possible and start appointing his cabinet, deciding who he wants around the top table in his team. my hunchis around the top table in his team. my hunch is that he will want that to be as widespread from the party as possible, he will want to bring in this different wings after all, those calls for unity and he will want to do mr 's questions on wednesday and what were expecting a couple of minutes' time frame to set out his vision to the party and start talking to the country —— what you want to do in prime minister's

questions. use the guiding principles of what primers should be undoubtedly will be shaped by the state of the economy, cost—of—living crisis, and then on wednesday he will want to face sir keir starmer in the dispatch box prime minister's questions. forthe in the dispatch box prime minister's questions. for the very first time. i think we're a minute away from away from hearing from rishi sunak. it is not likely he is going to give us a huge amount of detail butjust a sense of direction. we have got quite a lot of precedent for these takeover des speeches and that she has don't we? we have heard from liz truss, borisjohnson theresa may. they tend just after they win the conservative leadership to be fairly short, may be about five minutes, setting up thanks to the party, thanking their team, may be some guiding principles. no detail on policy and anything like that is more likely of the next few days. we will get more of that tomorrow. but mr sunak will also have to sit around the table with his chancellor

and figure out what the state of the economy is. a few weeks now since mr sunak has been in the treasury and he won't know the exact state of the public finances. we know he has spoken tojeremy hunt over the weekend and the current chancellor about what needs to happen but he will want to get his feet under the desk to sit down, to work out what is going on with obr projections for the office for budget responsibility and take it from there. what we were told earlier of at least what liz truss's spokesperson was saying to reporters is that the work continues on that fiscal statement. how much is effectively drawn up? how much of the stamp is rishi sunak going to be able to put onwith very little time to actually affect change and, as you say, so much that he has got to get up to speed?— get up to speed? really good question. _ get up to speed? really good question, week _ get up to speed? really good question, week today, -

get up to speed? really good question, week today, plan i get up to speed? really goodj question, week today, plan is get up to speed? really good i question, week today, plan is still a week today on the 31st october. i think will be guided by or dictated to over the last few weeks to state the public finances some of the details the chancellorjeremy hunt has already made but he will want to rubber—stamp those decisions. people want to sit around with the chancellor to discuss the decisions are to be made, may change some of them, maybe some things might require a rethink, may be the political imperatives that mr sunak has will be slightly different from mr sunak so he will want to sit around the table to work out what those principles are with his new chancellor before signing off on those plans. i suppose the fact that this is done and dusted today rather than friday gives them a bit more leeway to sit around and to figure out what the chancellor was my poverty should be. if it had been friday would have been very quick. —— won the chancellor's priority

should be. he wouldn't have had much time at all to figure out what he wanted to do if it had been friday. that will be one of the key priorities for rishi sunak, working at the current priorities, things that have to happen to balance a public books. i don't think the message will change. the decisions are going to be had, there are going to be spending cuts, there are going to be spending cuts, there are going to be spending squeezes, then may will be tax rises. that is what jeremy hunt was working on at the moment but mr sunak will want to give back to give out his seal of approval. give back to give out his seal of a- roval. . ' . give back to give out his seal of auroval. . ' . ., , approval. much difference now is there between _ approval. much difference now is there between the _ approval. much difference now is there between the tories - approval. much difference now is there between the tories and - approval. much difference now isi there between the tories and the labour party? there was a huge gap under truss and trussonomics but that's gone. under truss and trussonomics but that's gone-— under truss and trussonomics but that's one. �*, , ., ~ ,, w that's gone. let's see what mr sunak decides on- — that's gone. let's see what mr sunak decides on- i — that's gone. let's see what mr sunak decides on. i think _ that's gone. let's see what mr sunak decides on. i think both _ that's gone. let's see what mr sunak decides on. i think both parties - decides on. i think both parties agree that growth is the priority, they both talk about didn't till they both talk about didn't till they are blue in the face at the moment. they have been different strategies about what to do next. labour continued to say you should extend the windfall tax on oil and

gas companies that are making record profits and say to them you need to cough up more of that profit in tax. here is mr sue neck, let me handover. —— rishi sunak. i’d here is mr sue neck, let me handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to -a handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute _ handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute to _ handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute to liz _ handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute to liz truss - handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute to liz truss for - handover. -- rishi sunak. i'd like to pay tribute to liz truss for her| to pay tribute to liz truss for her dedicated — to pay tribute to liz truss for her dedicated service to the country. she has— dedicated service to the country. she has led with dignity and grace through— she has led with dignity and grace through a — she has led with dignity and grace through a time of great change and under— through a time of great change and under exceptionally difficult circumstances, both at home and abroad _ lam humbled i am humbled and honoured to have the surrport— i am humbled and honoured to have the support of my parliamentary colleagues and to be elected as leader— colleagues and to be elected as leader of— colleagues and to be elected as leader of the conservative and unionist — leader of the conservative and unionist party. it is the greatest privilege — unionist party. it is the greatest privilege of my life to be able to serve _ privilege of my life to be able to serve the — privilege of my life to be able to serve the party i love and give back to the _ serve the party i love and give back to the country i ozone much too. the united _ to the country i ozone much too. the united kingdom is a great country. but there _ united kingdom is a great country. but there is no doubt we face a profound — but there is no doubt we face a profound economic challenge. we now

need stability and unity, and i will make _ need stability and unity, and i will make it _ need stability and unity, and i will make it my— need stability and unity, and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party— make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together because _ our party and our country together because that's the only way we will overcome — because that's the only way we will overcome the challenges we face and build a _ overcome the challenges we face and build a better, more prosperous future _ build a better, more prosperous future for— build a better, more prosperous future for our children and our grandchildren. i pledge that i will serve _ grandchildren. i pledge that i will serve you — grandchildren. i pledge that i will serve you with integrity and humility, _ serve you with integrity and humility, and i will work day in, day out — humility, and i will work day in, day out to— humility, and i will work day in, day out to deliver for the british people — that was short, as you predicted it might be, nick. the greatest privilege of his life to be serving as prime minister. he said we now need stability and unity. he said my utmost priority is to bring our country together and i will serve

you with integrity and humility. what did you make of that? well. what did you make of that? well, look, as what did you make of that? well, look. as we _ what did you make of that? well, look, as we thought _ what did you make of that? well, look, as we thought rishi - what did you make of that? -ii look, as we thought rishi sunak has set out the basic challenge that he is going to face in drought damaged downing street. that profound economic challenge that he talked about, inflation, the challenges for the public purse, somehow managing to fill the fiscal black hole that we know exists of about 30-40,000,000,000 at the we know exists of about 30—a0,000,000,000 at the moment to try and keep the economic markets, the financial markets, i should say, calm. we heard him talk about stability and unity. i think that is code for no general election. he wants to try and get on with the job and to try and get the car back on the road. it's going to be tough. there was no suggestion there, as we thought, but how you might do it, about how he will tackle some of the difficult decisions that are going to have to be made over the next few

weeks. what we havejust to have to be made over the next few weeks. what we have just had a as brief summary of what rishi sunak's guiding principles will be. tackling that profound economic challenge, stability and unity, promising humility and integrity in number 10. but exactly how he's going to do that, how he's going to pursue and tackle some of those profound economic challenges he talks of we still wait for those details.- still wait for those details. thank ou ve still wait for those details. thank you very much. _ still wait for those details. thank you very much, nick. _ still wait for those details. thank you very much, nick. let's - still wait for those details. thank you very much, nick. let's talk. still wait for those details. thank| you very much, nick. let's talk to bridget phillipson or labour. welcome. we have a new prime minister anointed and he's talking about the need for stability and unity. does the fact that he has come in with the fact that he has come in with the support of his party mean that we are going to be heading for a more stable and united time in terms of the government? i more stable and united time in terms of the government?— of the government? i sadly don't think so and _

of the government? i sadly don't think so and the _ of the government? i sadly don't think so and the only _ of the government? i sadly don't think so and the only way - of the government? i sadly don't think so and the only way we - of the government? i sadly don't think so and the only way we will get any kind of stability is securing a labour government and general election. it isn't right that this has just been conservative mps and have been able to have their say. i think the british people should be able to have their say in a general election. there is no mandate for any of this. why do you say that an election would be the best way forward for stability? wouldn't it mean more instability, at least in the short—term? because the last 12 years under the conservatives have got us into the position we are in now where people can't get a gp appointment, where parents are forced out of work because of childcare pressures and where victims of crime are not getting justice. where victims of crime are not gettingjustice. it where victims of crime are not getting justice. it is only a labour government that will give us that fresh start and put our country on a more stable footing and address all of the challenges we face as a country. rishi sunak has no mandate for any of this, it is only right that the british people have a proper say in who is responsible for governing the country. we proper say in who is responsible for governing the country.— governing the country. we don't know, governing the country. we don't know. though. _ governing the country. we don't know, though, because - governing the country. we don't know, though, because labourl governing the country. we don't - know, though, because labour haven't spelt out exactly what a labour

government would mean. what would you do? what would your manifesto promises be in terms of the spending commitments or spending cuts, and tax rises or tax cuts?— tax rises or tax cuts? where not short of things _ tax rises or tax cuts? where not short of things to _ tax rises or tax cuts? where not short of things to say _ tax rises or tax cuts? where not short of things to say where - tax rises or tax cuts? where not short of things to say where it i short of things to say where it comes to the changes we need to see in our country and how we build a fairer, greener country, business rates, the system needs to change, that creating well—paid, highly skilled jobs in every corner of our country and making the shift around energy. and where it comes to schools where i'm responsible for education for labour we would end the tax breaks private schools enjoy and we would put the money into delivering a brilliant state education for all of our of course we would put out a full manifesto in the event of a general election but we have set out the clear difference between a labour government and conservative government. the sorts of thin . s conservative government. the sorts of things you _ conservative government. the sorts of things you are — conservative government. the sorts of things you are talking _ conservative government. the sorts of things you are talking about - of things you are talking about there, though, cutting business rates, giving state schools money,

effectively raised by private school education, they are small areas, aren't they? the situation in terms of the bigger economic picture for the government is a £40 billion spending black hole. how would labour fix that? the spending black hole. how would labour fix that?— spending black hole. how would labour fix that? the only reason we are even having _ labour fix that? the only reason we are even having this _ labour fix that? the only reason we are even having this conversation i are even having this conversation about spending cuts, we were not talking about this a month ago, is because the conservatives have crashed the economy. it is a conservative crisis made in downing street but it's the british people who are set to pay the price. we will be making different choices about ending non—dom status, ending the tax breaks private schools enjoy, a windfall tax on oil and gas producers who have more money than they know what to do with. but this does come down to the mismanagement of the economy. the reckless approach the conservatives have taken. labourwould be approach the conservatives have taken. labour would be responsible where it comes to the public finances and we would get value for money. unlike rishi sunak who presided over industrial scale levels of fraud and waste when he was chancellor during the pandemic

and made no effort to claw back any of that money. and made no effort to claw back any of that money-— of that money. bridget phillipson for labour. _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you very - of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you very much. helen catt, our correspondent, is in central lobby in the palace of westminster. i central lobby in the palace of westminster.— central lobby in the palace of westminster. . . ., westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who _ westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who has _ westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who has hotfooted - westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who has hotfooted it - westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who has hotfooted it back. somebody who has hotfooted it back from can —— from conservative party headquarters dr liam fox. what was the atmosphere like, you watched the speech? this the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? �* , , the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? r ,,, . the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? a ,,, . ., the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? . ., ~, the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? a . ., ~ the atmosphere like, you watched the seech? . ., ~ ., speech? as his speech to mps an hour earlier, it speech? as his speech to mps an hour earlier. it was — speech? as his speech to mps an hour earlier, it was clear, _ speech? as his speech to mps an hour earlier, it was clear, concise, - speech? as his speech to mps an hour earlier, it was clear, concise, it - earlier, it was clear, concise, it wasn't— earlier, it was clear, concise, it wasn't it— earlier, it was clear, concise, it wasn't it flash, was very businesslike and i think that's very much _ businesslike and i think that's very much what — businesslike and i think that's very much what we can expect to see from rishi sunak. — much what we can expect to see from rishi sunak, somebody who is very calm _ rishi sunak, somebody who is very calm and _ rishi sunak, somebody who is very calm and verdant and competent and i think those _ calm and verdant and competent and i think those are three things that the party— think those are three things that the party is very keen to see is of course _ the party is very keen to see is of course the — the party is very keen to see is of course the country will be. you say not flash course the country will be. you say rrot flashy but _ course the country will be. you say not flashy but some _ course the country will be. you say not flashy but some people - course the country will be. you say not flashy but some people mightl not flashy but some people might think dermot listened to that and think dermot listened to that and think quite boring. it think dermot listened to that and think quite boring.— think quite boring. it wasn't borin: , think quite boring. it wasn't boring. it — think quite boring. it wasn't boring, it was _ think quite boring. it wasn't boring, it was clear - think quite boring. it wasn't boring, it was clear and - think quite boring. it wasn't boring, it was clear and to i think quite boring. it wasn't i boring, it was clear and to the point — boring, it was clear and to the point and _ boring, it was clear and to the point and it was what was needed to be done _ point and it was what was needed to be done. he's not somebody that pretends — be done. he's not somebody that pretends there are simple answers to complex— pretends there are simple answers to complex questions. i think people

will warm — complex questions. i think people will warm to that, to someone who tells them — will warm to that, to someone who tells them as it is, doesn't dress it up. _ tells them as it is, doesn't dress it up. and — tells them as it is, doesn't dress it up. and i— tells them as it is, doesn't dress it up, and i think that's the sort of quiet. — it up, and i think that's the sort of quiet, competent government that ithink— of quiet, competent government that i think we _ of quiet, competent government that i think we need to receive, frankly. you backed — i think we need to receive, frankly. you backed him in the summer. how surprising is it for you to see him walk through the door as the conservative leader and become the prime minister, having, in effect, been out of it about six weeks ago? i think it's very good. i'm delighted for him, i'm delighted for the conservative party and delighted for the _ the conservative party and delighted for the country. i think we will all -ain for the country. i think we will all gain from — for the country. i think we will all gain from that steady competence which _ gain from that steady competence which i've — gain from that steady competence which i've seen him display, and people _ which i've seen him display, and people remember that in the pandemic his fellow— people remember that in the pandemic his fellow scheme kept numerous businesses afloat and lots ofjob still in _ businesses afloat and lots ofjob still in existence. had we not done that it _ still in existence. had we not done that it is _ still in existence. had we not done that it is difficult and know—how still in existence. had we not done that it is difficult and know— how we would _ that it is difficult and know— how we would be _ that it is difficult and know— how we would be facing the global turbulence with much higher unemployment and far fewer businesses trading. so a lot of people — businesses trading. so a lot of people will remember hisjudgment businesses trading. so a lot of people will remember his judgment as bein- people will remember his judgment as being very— people will remember his judgment as being very effective, something the imf said _ being very effective, something the imf said was one of the best schemes in the _ imf said was one of the best schemes in the world — imf said was one of the best schemes in the world-— in the world. he's walking into a situation now _ in the world. he's walking into a situation now which _

in the world. he's walking into a situation now which is _ in the world. he's walking into a situation now which is much - in the world. he's walking into a l situation now which is much worse in the world. he's walking into a - situation now which is much worse it would have been had he been elected leader at the end of the last leadership contest. how can he turn this around for the economy? the first thing to _ this around for the economy? the first thing to do is to give confidence to the international markets — confidence to the international markets. i think we have already seen _ markets. i think we have already seen a _ markets. i think we have already seen a very— markets. i think we have already seen a very calm reaction there, they— seen a very calm reaction there, they have — seen a very calm reaction there, they have taken the news well. i think— they have taken the news well. i think that — they have taken the news well. i think that he needs to ensure that as interest — think that he needs to ensure that as interest rates rise around the world, _ as interest rates rise around the world, which they are doing as a result— world, which they are doing as a result of— world, which they are doing as a result of global inflation, as the united — result of global inflation, as the united states for reserve raise their— united states for reserve raise their interest rates it will drive our interest rates up. the aim there will be _ our interest rates up. the aim there will be that— our interest rates up. the aim there will be that we don't have to have any high — will be that we don't have to have any high interest rate rises than necessary _ any high interest rate rises than necessary. in other words, we maintain — necessary. in other words, we maintain the market confidence, therefore — maintain the market confidence, therefore they don't charge a higher premium _ therefore they don't charge a higher premium for lending to the united kingdom — premium for lending to the united kingdom. i think that the fact that he's been — kingdom. i think that the fact that he's been the chancellor of the exchequer, the fact that he is very au fait— exchequer, the fact that he is very au fait with — exchequer, the fact that he is very au fait with all of the economic issues — au fait with all of the economic issues will— au fait with all of the economic issues will actually stand us in good — issues will actually stand us in good stead. issues will actually stand us in good stead-— issues will actually stand us in aood stead. �* ~ , ., , issues will actually stand us in aood stead. �* ~' , . good stead. are we likely to see a reversal of — good stead. are we likely to see a reversal of some _ good stead. are we likely to see a reversal of some of _ good stead. are we likely to see a reversal of some of those - good stead. are we likely to see a reversal of some of those policies| reversal of some of those policies which moved quite a long way away

from the 2019 manifesto? for example, are we likely to see him reinstate the moratorium on fracking? reinstate the moratorium on frackin: ? ~ reinstate the moratorium on hacking?— reinstate the moratorium on frackin: ? ~ ., ., fracking? well, we will get all of these as we _ fracking? well, we will get all of these as we go _ fracking? well, we will get all of these as we go through - fracking? well, we will get all of these as we go through the - fracking? well, we will get all of these as we go through the nextj fracking? well, we will get all of - these as we go through the next few days but— these as we go through the next few days but i_ these as we go through the next few days but i think the direction of travel— days but i think the direction of travel is — days but i think the direction of travel is very clear. he's a very traditional— travel is very clear. he's a very traditional conservative in the sense — traditional conservative in the sense that he believes in sound money, — sense that he believes in sound money, that he believes the government shouldn't be spending what it— government shouldn't be spending what it doesn't have, shouldn't be passing _ what it doesn't have, shouldn't be passing on — what it doesn't have, shouldn't be passing on the debt to future generations, and that we have to cut our cloth _ generations, and that we have to cut our cloth accordingly. i think he wants— our cloth accordingly. i think he wants to — our cloth accordingly. i think he wants to see lower taxes. but like mrs thatcher and other leaders before — mrs thatcher and other leaders before him, he believes those tax cuts have — before him, he believes those tax cuts have to be earned and not borrowed — cuts have to be earned and not borrowed for, and that i think is one thing — borrowed for, and that i think is one thing that will make the financial— one thing that will make the financial markets much calmer. dr liam financial markets much calmer. liam fox, financial markets much calmer. d liam fox, thank you. financial markets much calmer. d liam fox, thank you. that's financial markets much calmer. d liam fox, thank you. that's the view of very very pleased sunak supporter, i think it is fair to say. we've been speaking to people coming through central lobby all afternoon and the words that keep coming up time and again our unity and stability, justice rishi sunak said in his speech.— and stability, justice rishi sunak said in his speech. thank you very much, said in his speech. thank you very much. helen- _ said in his speech. thank you very much, helen. let's—

said in his speech. thank you very much, helen. let's take _ said in his speech. thank you very much, helen. let's take a - said in his speech. thank you very much, helen. let's take a closer i much, helen. let's take a closer look at our next prime minister. the former chancellor rishi sunak had been the favourite to succeed his old boss borisjohnson as prime minister after he resigned injuly but he failed to persuade tory members who ultimately put liz truss in downing street in september. mr sunak who has not commented on the recent turmoil said he was standing as prime minister to fix a profound economic crisis, as well as to unite his party. he became chancellor in february 2020 and within weeks found himself having to steer the uk economy as the pandemic and its lockdowns began. in april the finances of rishi sunak and his ahmadiyya came under intense scrutiny with the tax affairs of his wife akshata murthy placed in the spotlight. she later announced she would start paying uk tax on her overseas earnings to relieve political pressure on her husband. rishi sunak is a practising hindu and he becomes the first asian prime minister. he said when he spoke just a short while ago, becoming prime

minister is the greatest privilege of my life. we now need stability and unity and my utmost priority is to bring our country together. let's bring in tim bale, professor of politics at queen mary university of london. welcome, thank you for joining us. your thoughts? to london. welcome, thank you for joining us. your thoughts?- joining us. your thoughts? to be honest, i think _ joining us. your thoughts? to be honest, i think once _ joining us. your thoughts? to be honest, i think once boris - joining us. your thoughts? to be. honest, i think once boris johnson honest, i think once borisjohnson this was inevitable. i think it's the best result possible, really, for the conservative party. i don't think they wanted to put the country through another membership vote, particularly when that membership is so unrepresentative, and it does mean, as your correspondent was saying earlier, that rishi sunak and jeremy hunt have a little bit more time to put together that all—important financial statement all—importa nt financial statement which, hopefully, all—important financial statement which, hopefully, will calm the markets even further than hunt has already managed to do. do markets even further than hunt has already managed to do.— markets even further than hunt has already managed to do. do you think we miaht already managed to do. do you think we might be — already managed to do. do you think we might be in _ already managed to do. do you think we might be in for— already managed to do. do you think we might be in for a _ already managed to do. do you think we might be in for a slightly - already managed to do. do you think we might be in for a slightly more i we might be in for a slightly more boring and a slightly more quiet time in politics? i’m

boring and a slightly more quiet time in politics?— time in politics? i'm sure most members _ time in politics? i'm sure most members of — time in politics? i'm sure most members of the _ time in politics? i'm sure most members of the public - time in politics? i'm sure most members of the public would l time in politics? i'm sure most- members of the public would quite like that. i thought it was interesting that rishi sunak in his speech also mentioned the word integrity. he didn't talk about borisjohnson. but i suspect that the subliminal message was pretty clear to most people. i think he will hope to run a completely different and far left chaotic administration than the one his former boss did. it will be interesting to see if there's any role in that forjohnson. i it. —— far less chaotic. if you have boris johnson on the back benches and you are under pressure that might be a bit difficult for a new prime minister. �* , bit difficult for a new prime minister-— bit difficult for a new prime minister. �* , , ., , minister. it's interesting, who is on the backbenches. _ minister. it's interesting, who is on the backbenches. as - minister. it's interesting, who is on the backbenches. as you - minister. it's interesting, who is - on the backbenches. as you mention, borisjohnson, prime minister until boris johnson, prime minister until not borisjohnson, prime minister until not very long ago and liz truss also prime minister until not very long ago, theresa may also. there have been five prime ministers in six

years, five conservative prime minister is in six years and that's only the prime ministers we are talking about, lots of other key personnel who have gone from high—profile positions to being backbenchers. it high-profile positions to being backbenchers.— high-profile positions to being backbenchers. , .. , backbenchers. it might be the case that rishi sunak _ backbenchers. it might be the case that rishi sunak can _ backbenchers. it might be the case that rishi sunak can bring - backbenchers. it might be the case that rishi sunak can bring some i backbenchers. it might be the case that rishi sunak can bring some of| that rishi sunak can bring some of them back, actually. ithink that rishi sunak can bring some of them back, actually. i think one of them back, actually. i think one of the key things he will want to do, to coin a cliche, bring in all the talents. one of the problems he will have, however, is because there are so much churn and turnover, particularly in the borisjohnson, there will be lots of people who were brought in to the front bench byjohnson and to some extent truss who may well as a result be let go. whether they will allow their resentment to fuel rebellion against rishi sunak will be interesting to see. i suspect if he can offer them some prospect of saving their seats they might keep quiet but you never know. ,., .. , ., know. the polling indicates that even when _ know. the polling indicates that even when it — know. the polling indicates that even when it was _ know. the polling indicates that even when it was a _ know. the polling indicates that even when it was a case -

know. the polling indicates that even when it was a case of- know. the polling indicates that l even when it was a case of which know. the polling indicates that . even when it was a case of which of the different contenders for leader might do best in the country, or best against keir starmer as labour leader none of them were on course to win an election. so if the tories potentially have two years to try to deliver unity, tried to deliver some sort of stability, could their fortunes change?— sort of stability, could their fortunes change? sort of stability, could their fortunes chance? ~ , .., fortunes change? well, they could chan . e. fortunes change? well, they could change- we _ fortunes change? well, they could change. we have _ fortunes change? well, they could change. we have an _ fortunes change? well, they could change. we have an example - fortunes change? well, they could j change. we have an example from fairly recent history where a tory prime minister took over from an incredibly unpopular predecessor in the middle of a very difficult economic period, and yet managed to win an election and that wasjohn major who took overfrom win an election and that wasjohn major who took over from thatcher in 1990 and managed to squeeze a win in 1992. a win for labour isn't completely inevitable, and you have to remember of course that labour was a long way behind in 2019.

however, having said that, it looks to me, nothing to most people who follow these things closely, like the public has probably made up its mind about the conservatives now and it's a case really ofjust limiting the damage. it's a case really of 'ust limiting the damage-h it's a case really of 'ust limiting the damageh it's a case really of 'ust limiting the damate. ., ~' ,. , . the damage. thank you very much, tim bale. let's hear— the damage. thank you very much, tim bale. let's hear again _ the damage. thank you very much, tim bale. let's hear again what _ the damage. thank you very much, tim bale. let's hear again what rishi - bale. let's hear again what rishi sunak said earlier when he spoke on camera briefly, but his first words since becoming prime minister. i’d since becoming prime minister. i'd like to pay tribute to liz truss for a dedicated public service to the country — a dedicated public service to the country. she has led with dignity and grace — country. she has led with dignity and grace for a time of great change and grace for a time of great change and exceptionally difficult circumstances, both at home and abroad _ circumstances, both at home and abroad i— circumstances, both at home and abroad. i am circumstances, both at home and abroad. lam humbled circumstances, both at home and abroad. i am humbled and circumstances, both at home and abroad. lam humbled and honoured circumstances, both at home and abroad. i am humbled and honoured to have the _ abroad. i am humbled and honoured to have the support of my parliamentary colleagues _ have the support of my parliamentary colleagues and to be elected as leader— colleagues and to be elected as leader of— colleagues and to be elected as leader of the conservative and unionist — leader of the conservative and unionist party. it is the greatest privilege — unionist party. it is the greatest privilege of my life to be able to serve _ privilege of my life to be able to serve the — privilege of my life to be able to serve the party i love and give back to the _

serve the party i love and give back to the country iota so much to. the united _ to the country iota so much to. the united kingdom is a great country. —— | united kingdom is a great country. -- i owe _ united kingdom is a great country. -- i owe so— united kingdom is a great country. —— i owe so much to. but there is no doubt _ —— i owe so much to. but there is no doubt we _ —— i owe so much to. but there is no doubt we face — —— i owe so much to. but there is no doubt we face a profound economic challenge — doubt we face a profound economic challenge. we now need stability and unity, _ challenge. we now need stability and unity, and _ challenge. we now need stability and unity, and i_ challenge. we now need stability and unity, and i will make it my utmost priority— unity, and i will make it my utmost priority to — unity, and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country— priority to bring our party and our country together, because that is the only— country together, because that is the only way we will overcome the challenges we face and build a better, — challenges we face and build a better, more prosperous future for our children— better, more prosperous future for our children and our grandchildren. i pledge _ our children and our grandchildren. i pledge that i will serve you with integrity— i pledge that i will serve you with integrity and humility, and i will work— integrity and humility, and i will work day— integrity and humility, and i will work day in, day out to deliver for the british— work day in, day out to deliver for the british people.— work day in, day out to deliver for the british people. rishi sunak with those first comments _ the british people. rishi sunak with those first comments in _ the british people. rishi sunak with those first comments in front - the british people. rishi sunak with those first comments in front of - the british people. rishi sunak withj those first comments in front of the camera since he was anointed as leader of the tory party and next prime minister and liz truss cosmic

spokesperson has confirmed there will not a formal handover of power today. it is expected it will be tomorrow but we haven't had any details on what and when the choreography will be. with me now is sunder katwala — he is the director of british future think thank, and the former general secretary of the labour—affiliated fabian society. his family roots trace indian and irish heritage. welcome, thank you forjoining us. your thoughts on rishi sunak being anointed as the new prime minister? i think it is an historic moment in british social history post ethnic minority prime minister, first british indian, british—asian premise that the first practising non—christian prime minister in the country wasn't history because rishi sunak is a hindu and that's an important change in british society, people will say that's not the most important thing because they will

say what he needs to do is get his hand on the government and economic plan and that's how people will judge him or any prime minister. but this wouldn't have been possible ten or 20 years ago so it is a gradual progression in british society, ethnic diversity people from every colour and creed is part of the top table of politics now and everybody should welcome that. in table of politics now and everybody should welcome that.— should welcome that. in terms of what ou should welcome that. in terms of what you want — should welcome that. in terms of what you want to _ should welcome that. in terms of what you want to hear _ should welcome that. in terms of what you want to hear from - should welcome that. in terms of what you want to hear from him i should welcome that. in terms of. what you want to hear from him as prime minister, what would that be. he has the hardest inheritance of any peacetime prime minister so people will be looking for calm and stability. they know he has two fix the public finances but they will be worried about the impact of the public services, and broader issues of identity culture, the so—called culture wars. i hope he can say we haven't really got time for those divisive and polarising debates. we have had lots of division and politics. i hope they will move on. there will be pressure from within

his party in the right to have those clashes, but his instincts i think are to try and be unifying at a difficult time. no doubt the economics at the moment are incredibly hard, but i hope there will be an attempt at professional integrity and politics, not too much party politics. i know he has a general election to think about command a difficultjob in that general election and i hope you will be the prime minister before he tries to be a party leader. thank ou for tries to be a party leader. thank you forjoining — tries to be a party leader. thank you forjoining us, _ tries to be a party leader. thank you forjoining us, sunder- tries to be a party leader. thank i you forjoining us, sunder katwala. let's look at reactions across the nations. let's speak to chris page in belfast. , , ., ., in belfast. the big question hanging over politics — in belfast. the big question hanging over politics in _ in belfast. the big question hanging over politics in northern _ in belfast. the big question hanging over politics in northern ireland - in belfast. the big question hanging over politics in northern ireland is l over politics in northern ireland is will there be an election to the stormont assembly this side of christmas. the events in westminster

have added a huge degree of uncertainty to that. as things stand the current northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris has said he is planning to call an election this friday. that's when the deadline for the restoration of devolved government here runs out. the democratic unionist party are currently refusing to join in a power—sharing coalition, and therefore blocking the formation of a devolved government at all over their opposition to the brexit trade bordering the irish sea known as the northern ireland protocol. the dup says it will not change position as long as checks on goods arriving here from great britain continue. the dup leader sirjeffrey donaldson has this afternoon congratulated rishi sunak. he has also said that sunak needs to bear in mind that the protocol is polluting, in his words, every area of government in this part of the uk and the operation of devolution in northern ireland is incompatible as long as the protocol still exists. sinn fein, who

replaced the dup as the largest party here at stormont in assembly elections in may say they were indifferent as to who took over at the top of the tory party and as head of government in london, but they have said mr sunak should be prioritising working to restore devolution here. so that is one of the big challenges facing the new prime minister. how do you restore power—sharing at stormont? always a fragile affair. and now that the impasse has lasted for nine long months. the question this week, will the northern ireland secretary mr heaton harris still be in hisjob come friday to call that election, as he has said he will, or will there be a cabinet reshuffle? he could be replaced by somebody who, for example, has different ideas. worth noting that the junior minister in the northern ireland office steve baker has today said that regardless as to whether there is a cabinet reshuffle that government policy is that an election will be called on friday because, in the government's view,

that's what the legislation governing stormont says must happen. that's the picture in northern ireland come over to my colleague james shaw in scotland. the, james shaw in scotland. a congratulatory message from the first mystery of scotland nicola sturgeon. of course, there are huge political— sturgeon. of course, there are huge political differences between the snp in _ political differences between the snp in scotland and the conservatives at westminster. nicola sturgeon _ conservatives at westminster. nicola sturgeon says, notwithstanding the political _ sturgeon says, notwithstanding the political differences, i will do my best to _ political differences, i will do my best to build a constructive working relationship with rishi sunak in the interests _ relationship with rishi sunak in the interests of the people that we serve — interests of the people that we serve. she also points out that he is the _ serve. she also points out that he is the first— serve. she also points out that he is the first british—asian to be prime — is the first british—asian to be prime minister and she says that is a genuinely— prime minister and she says that is a genuinely significant moment. but she urges— a genuinely significant moment. but she urges him, in terms of economic and for— she urges him, in terms of economic and for policy — she urges him, in terms of economic and for policy of the conservative government, not to go for another round _ government, not to go for another round of— government, not to go for another round of austerity. that is the fear that there — round of austerity. that is the fear that there will be extreme cuts to public _ that there will be extreme cuts to public services in scotland as a result— public services in scotland as a result of— public services in scotland as a result of the money that needs to be saved _ result of the money that needs to be saved to— result of the money that needs to be saved to deal with the fiscal deficit— saved to deal with the fiscal deficit that the uk government has.

she urges— deficit that the uk government has. she urges rishi sunak not to take that approach, but instead to call for a _ that approach, but instead to call for a general election. the leader of the _ for a general election. the leader of the conservatives in scotland douglas — of the conservatives in scotland douglas ross, he has said that he believes— douglas ross, he has said that he believes rishi sunak has the experience because he has been chancellor of the exchequer to deal with what _ chancellor of the exchequer to deal with what he calls the tough economic circumstances. he says he thinks _ economic circumstances. he says he thinks that— economic circumstances. he says he thinks that mr sunak will be able to navigate _ thinks that mr sunak will be able to navigate those conditions that we face at _ navigate those conditions that we face at the moment. rishi sunak has .one face at the moment. rishi sunak has gone on _ face at the moment. rishi sunak has gone on the — face at the moment. rishi sunak has gone on the record in the past in terms _ gone on the record in the past in terms of— gone on the record in the past in terms of how he is going to approach relations— terms of how he is going to approach relations between the scottish government and the uk government. he's government and the uk government. has made _ government and the uk government. he's made it very clear, he did that during _ he's made it very clear, he did that during campaigning with liz truss during _ during campaigning with liz truss during the — during campaigning with liz truss during the leadership contest in the summer. _ during the leadership contest in the summer, that he is absolutely against — summer, that he is absolutely against a _ summer, that he is absolutely against a second independence referendum. he said it would be, as he put _ referendum. he said it would be, as he put it. _ referendum. he said it would be, as he put it, frankly barmy to have another — he put it, frankly barmy to have another vote during a cost of living crisis _ another vote during a cost of living crisis and — another vote during a cost of living crisis. and we also, i think, can

expect— crisis. and we also, i think, can expect him _ crisis. and we also, i think, can expect him to look quite closely at what the _ expect him to look quite closely at what the scottish government does, at the _ what the scottish government does, at the policies it has pursued, and its record — at the policies it has pursued, and its record in— at the policies it has pursued, and its record in things like health and education — its record in things like health and education and drugs policy. i think what _ education and drugs policy. i think what he _ education and drugs policy. i think what he wants to be able to do is look at _ what he wants to be able to do is look at the — what he wants to be able to do is look at the snp's record in government and compare it to the uk government. i think he expects by doing _ government. i think he expects by doing that — government. i think he expects by doing that that he will be calling the snp — doing that that he will be calling the snp to account. and he would hope. _ the snp to account. and he would hope, exposing failures, as he would see it. _ hope, exposing failures, as he would see it. in _ hope, exposing failures, as he would see it, in their15 hope, exposing failures, as he would see it, in their 15 years of government in scotland. and now to my colleague hywel griffith in cardiff — my colleague hywel griffith in cardiff. . , . ., ., cardiff. ranks, james. we have also 'ust had cardiff. ranks, james. we have also just had the — cardiff. ranks, james. we have also just had the reaction _ cardiff. ranks, james. we have also just had the reaction of— cardiff. ranks, james. we have also just had the reaction of wales's - just had the reaction of wales's first _ just had the reaction of wales's first minister— just had the reaction of wales's first minister mark— just had the reaction of wales's first minister mark drakeford, i just had the reaction of wales's i first minister mark drakeford, the leader— first minister mark drakeford, the leader of— first minister mark drakeford, the leader of the — first minister mark drakeford, the leader of the labour— first minister mark drakeford, the leader of the labour party - first minister mark drakeford, the leader of the labour party here i first minister mark drakeford, the leader of the labour party here at| leader of the labour party here at the senedd. — leader of the labour party here at the senedd, the _ leader of the labour party here at the senedd, the welsh _ leader of the labour party here at i the senedd, the welsh parliament, tweeting _ the senedd, the welsh parliament, tweeting congratulations _ the senedd, the welsh parliament, tweeting congratulations to - the senedd, the welsh parliament, tweeting congratulations to rishi i tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak— tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak command _ tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak command goes _ tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak command goes on - tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak command goes on to - tweeting congratulations to rishi sunak command goes on to say. tweeting congratulations to rishi i sunak command goes on to say the tweeting congratulations to rishi - sunak command goes on to say the uk desperately— sunak command goes on to say the uk desperately needs _ sunak command goes on to say the uk desperately needs a _ sunak command goes on to say the uk desperately needs a period _ sunak command goes on to say the uk desperately needs a period of- desperately needs a period of stability _ desperately needs a period of stability i_ desperately needs a period of stability. i hope _ desperately needs a period of stability. i hope we _ desperately needs a period of stability. i hope we are - desperately needs a period of stability. i hope we are able l desperately needs a period of| stability. i hope we are able to work _ stability. i hope we are able to work together— stability. i hope we are able to work together constructively i stability. i hope we are able to| work together constructively to support — work together constructively to support people _ work together constructively to support people through - work together constructively to support people through these i support people through these difficult — support people through these difficult times— support people through these difficult times in _ support people through these difficult times in a _ support people through these difficult times in a way- support people through these difficult times in a way that i support people through these i difficult times in a way that your

predecessors— difficult times in a way that your predecessors didn't _ difficult times in a way that your predecessors didn't allow. - difficult times in a way that your predecessors didn't allow. thatl difficult times in a way that your. predecessors didn't allow. that is a none _ predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too _ predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too subtle _ predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too subtle swipe _ predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too subtle swipe at _ predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too subtle swipe at both - predecessors didn't allow. that is a none too subtle swipe at both liz i none too subtle swipe at both liz truss _ none too subtle swipe at both liz truss and — none too subtle swipe at both liz truss and boris _ none too subtle swipe at both liz truss and borisjohnson. - none too subtle swipe at both liz truss and boris johnson. it's - none too subtle swipe at both liz truss and boris johnson. it's fair| truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say— truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there _ truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there has _ truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there has been _ truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there has been quite - truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there has been quite a . truss and boris johnson. it's fair to say there has been quite a lot truss and boris johnson. it's fair i to say there has been quite a lot of discord _ to say there has been quite a lot of discord between— to say there has been quite a lot of discord between cardiff— to say there has been quite a lot of discord between cardiff bay- to say there has been quite a lot of discord between cardiff bay and . discord between cardiff bay and westminster— discord between cardiff bay and westminster over _ discord between cardiff bay and westminster over the _ discord between cardiff bay and westminster over the last - discord between cardiff bay andj westminster over the last three years— westminster over the last three years or— westminster over the last three years or so _ westminster over the last three years or so. mark— westminster over the last three years or so. mark drakeford - westminster over the last three i years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a _ years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a phone — years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a phone call— years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a phone call from _ years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a phone call from liz- years or so. mark drakeford hasn't had a phone call from liz truss - had a phone call from liz truss since _ had a phone call from liz truss since she — had a phone call from liz truss since she took— had a phone call from liz truss since she took control - had a phone call from liz truss since she took control and - had a phone call from liz truss - since she took control and probably unlikely— since she took control and probably unlikely to — since she took control and probably unlikely to now. _ since she took control and probably unlikely to now, so _ since she took control and probably unlikely to now, so will— since she took control and probably unlikely to now, so will he - since she took control and probably unlikely to now, so will he expect l since she took control and probably unlikely to now, so will he expect a call from _ unlikely to now, so will he expect a call from rishi _ unlikely to now, so will he expect a call from rishi sunak? _ unlikely to now, so will he expect a call from rishi sunak? will- unlikely to now, so will he expect a call from rishi sunak? will the - call from rishi sunak? will the relationship _ call from rishi sunak? will the relationship between - call from rishi sunak? will the relationship between the - call from rishi sunak? will thel relationship between the prime minister— relationship between the prime ministerand first— relationship between the prime ministerand first minister- relationship between the prime minister and first minister of. relationship between the prime - minister and first minister of wales the reset? — minister and first minister of wales the reset? thereof— minister and first minister of wales the reset? thereof course - minister and first minister of wales the reset? thereof course from - the reset? thereof course from different — the reset? thereof course from different political— the reset? thereof course from different political parties - the reset? thereof course from different political parties but. the reset? thereof course from i different political parties but they both have — different political parties but they both have joint _ different political parties but they both have joint problems- different political parties but they both have joint problems to - different political parties but they i both have joint problems to tackle, not least _ both have joint problems to tackle, not least the — both have joint problems to tackle, not least the cost _ both have joint problems to tackle, not least the cost of _ both have joint problems to tackle, not least the cost of living - both have joint problems to tackle, not least the cost of living crisis. i not least the cost of living crisis. rishi _ not least the cost of living crisis. rishi sunak. _ not least the cost of living crisis. rishi sunak, when _ not least the cost of living crisis. rishi sunak, when he _ not least the cost of living crisis. rishi sunak, when he was - not least the cost of living crisis. rishi sunak, when he was here l not least the cost of living crisis. | rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff— rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff for— rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff for the _ rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff for the hustings _ rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff for the hustings in - rishi sunak, when he was here in cardiff for the hustings in the - cardiff for the hustings in the summer. _ cardiff for the hustings in the summer, said _ cardiff for the hustings in the summer, said he _ cardiff for the hustings in the summer, said he would - cardiff for the hustings in the summer, said he would be i cardiff for the hustings in the - summer, said he would be questioning and scrutinising — summer, said he would be questioning and scrutinising the _ summer, said he would be questioning and scrutinising the welsh _ summer, said he would be questioning and scrutinising the welsh labour- and scrutinising the welsh labour government's— and scrutinising the welsh labour government's time, _ and scrutinising the welsh labour government's time, more - and scrutinising the welsh labour government's time, more than i and scrutinising the welsh labouri government's time, more than two decades— government's time, more than two decades now— government's time, more than two decades now in _ government's time, more than two decades now in power— government's time, more than two decades now in power in _ government's time, more than two decades now in power in wales, i decades now in power in wales, looking — decades now in power in wales, looking at— decades now in power in wales, looking at the _ decades now in power in wales, looking at the record _ decades now in power in wales, looking at the record on - decades now in power in wales, looking at the record on the - decades now in power in wales, i looking at the record on the nhs decades now in power in wales, - looking at the record on the nhs and asking _ looking at the record on the nhs and asking why. — looking at the record on the nhs and asking why. in— looking at the record on the nhs and asking why. in his _ looking at the record on the nhs and asking why, in his view, _ looking at the record on the nhs and asking why, in his view, patients- asking why, in his view, patients here _ asking why, in his view, patients here were — asking why, in his view, patients here were not _ asking why, in his view, patients here were not able _ asking why, in his view, patients here were not able to _ asking why, in his view, patients here were not able to have - asking why, in his view, patients here were not able to have an i here were not able to have an equitable _ here were not able to have an equitable service _ here were not able to have an equitable service and - here were not able to have an - equitable service and performance from the _ equitable service and performance from the nhs _ equitable service and performance from the nhs. and _ equitable service and performance from the nhs. and also _ equitable service and performance from the nhs. and also looking i equitable service and performance from the nhs. and also looking atj from the nhs. and also looking at spending — from the nhs. and also looking at spending in — from the nhs. and also looking at spending in education. _ from the nhs. and also looking at

spending in education. we - from the nhs. and also looking at spending in education. we have i from the nhs. and also looking at i spending in education. we have seen from previous— spending in education. we have seen from previous tory— spending in education. we have seen from previous tory leaders _ spending in education. we have seen from previous tory leaders this - spending in education. we have seen from previous tory leaders this ideal from previous tory leaders this idea that wales — from previous tory leaders this idea that wales is — from previous tory leaders this idea that wales is somewhere _ from previous tory leaders this idea that wales is somewhere they - from previous tory leaders this idea that wales is somewhere they can l that wales is somewhere they can reflect _ that wales is somewhere they can reflect on— that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if— that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if they _ that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if they want _ that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if they want to - that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if they want to look- that wales is somewhere they can reflect on if they want to look fori reflect on if they want to look for labour _ reflect on if they want to look for labour weaknesses. _ reflect on if they want to look for labour weaknesses. so _ reflect on if they want to look for labour weaknesses. so if- reflect on if they want to look for labour weaknesses. so if and - reflect on if they want to look for. labour weaknesses. so if and when reflect on if they want to look for- labour weaknesses. so if and when we do eventually — labour weaknesses. so if and when we do eventually come _ labour weaknesses. so if and when we do eventually come to _ labour weaknesses. so if and when we do eventually come to a _ labour weaknesses. so if and when we do eventually come to a general- do eventually come to a general election. — do eventually come to a general election, will— do eventually come to a general election, will that _ do eventually come to a general election, will that be _ do eventually come to a general election, will that be a - do eventually come to a general election, will that be a tactic- do eventually come to a generali election, will that be a tactic that rishi _ election, will that be a tactic that rishi sunak— election, will that be a tactic that rishi sunak deploys? _ election, will that be a tactic that rishi sunak deploys? he - election, will that be a tactic that rishi sunak deploys? he can - election, will that be a tactic that i rishi sunak deploys? he can expect election, will that be a tactic that - rishi sunak deploys? he can expect a rather— rishi sunak deploys? he can expect a rather more _ rishi sunak deploys? he can expect a rather more cordial— rishi sunak deploys? he can expect a rather more cordial relationship - rather more cordial relationship with the — rather more cordial relationship with the welsh _ rather more cordial relationship with the welsh tories. - rather more cordial relationship with the welsh tories. the - rather more cordial relationship l with the welsh tories. the leader rather more cordial relationship - with the welsh tories. the leader of the welsh _ with the welsh tories. the leader of the welsh conservatives _ with the welsh tories. the leader of the welsh conservatives andrew - with the welsh tories. the leader of the welsh conservatives andrew rt| the welsh conservatives andrew rt davies _ the welsh conservatives andrew rt davies congratulating _ the welsh conservatives andrew rt davies congratulating him, - the welsh conservatives andrew rt davies congratulating him, saying l davies congratulating him, saying him. _ davies congratulating him, saying him. he _ davies congratulating him, saying him. he sees _ davies congratulating him, saying him, he sees him _ davies congratulating him, saying him, he sees him as— davies congratulating him, saying him, he sees him as a _ davies congratulating him, saying him, he sees him as a friend - davies congratulating him, saying him, he sees him as a friend of. him, he sees him as a friend of wales— him, he sees him as a friend of wales and _ him, he sees him as a friend of wales and within _ him, he sees him as a friend of wales and within hours - him, he sees him as a friend of wales and within hours beforei him, he sees him as a friend of. wales and within hours before the result— wales and within hours before the result at— wales and within hours before the result at lunchtime _ wales and within hours before the result at lunchtime most - wales and within hours before the result at lunchtime most of - wales and within hours before the result at lunchtime most of the i result at lunchtime most of the welsh — result at lunchtime most of the welsh tory— result at lunchtime most of the welsh tory mps _ result at lunchtime most of the welsh tory mps were _ result at lunchtime most of the welsh tory mps were backing l result at lunchtime most of the - welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak _ welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak a— welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak a few— welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak. a few have _ welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak. a few have tiptoed - welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak. a few have tiptoed in - welsh tory mps were backing rishi sunak. a few have tiptoed in and i welsh tory mps were backing rishi i sunak. a few have tiptoed in and out of different _ sunak. a few have tiptoed in and out of different camps _ sunak. a few have tiptoed in and out of different camps over _ sunak. a few have tiptoed in and out of different camps over the - sunak. a few have tiptoed in and out of different camps over the course i of different camps over the course of different camps over the course of the _ of different camps over the course ofthe summer _ of different camps over the course of the summer. he _ of different camps over the course of the summer. he will— of different camps over the course of the summer. he will want- of different camps over the course of the summer. he will want them of different camps over the course i of the summer. he will want them all now to _ of the summer. he will want them all now to be _ of the summer. he will want them all now to be onside _ of the summer. he will want them all now to be onside so _ of the summer. he will want them all now to be onside so they— of the summer. he will want them all now to be onside so they can - of the summer. he will want them all now to be onside so they can work i now to be onside so they can work together— now to be onside so they can work together and — now to be onside so they can work together and try _ now to be onside so they can work together and try to _ now to be onside so they can work together and try to bring - now to be onside so they can work together and try to bring back - now to be onside so they can work. together and try to bring back some unity to— together and try to bring back some unity to their— together and try to bring back some unity to their party. _ together and try to bring back some unity to their party. joanna, - together and try to bring back some unity to their party. joanna, back. unity to their party. joanna, back to you _ unity to their party. joanna, back to ou. ., .. unity to their party. joanna, back to ou. ., ,, unity to their party. joanna, back to ou. ., ., to you. thank you. that's some of the reaction _ to you. thank you. that's some of the reaction from _ to you. thank you. that's some of the reaction from the _ to you. thank you. that's some of the reaction from the nations. - to you. thank you. that's some of the reaction from the nations. we j the reaction from the nations. we have course now have a new prime minister, rishi sunak. he has spoken briefly on camera, saying it's the greatest privilege of my life. he said we now need stability and unity

and my utmost priority will be to bring our country together. there will not be an official handover of power today. will not be an official handover of powertoday. liz will not be an official handover of power today. liz truss remains at downing street. but there will of course be that moment when they go to the king, when the king asks rishi sunak to form the next government. it will not be happening today. it's expected it will be tomorrow but we don't have any confirmed details on that. much more from here at downing street shortly, but right now, back to jane on the studio. studio: joanna, thank you. good afternoon. you are watching bbc news, the time is 4:37pm and we are going to stay with our coverage of the news that the country has a new prime minister rishi sunak, 42 years old, the youngest prime minister for more than 200 years. we are going to discuss the many, many things in the new prime minister's in tray,

starting with economics, but specifically business. we can discuss that with the vice president of the business organisation the cbi, the founder of cobra beer and six as an independent cross peer in the house of lords. good afternoon. your thoughts on rishi sunak now as prime minister? ih your thoughts on rishi sunak now as prime minister?— prime minister? in 2002 i was privileged _ prime minister? in 2002 i was privileged to _ prime minister? in 2002 i was privileged to be _ prime minister? in 2002 i was privileged to be awarded - prime minister? in 2002 i was| privileged to be awarded asian prime minister? in 2002 i was i privileged to be awarded asian of the year by the home secretary david blunkett then commanded my speech i said in my lifetime we will see an asian as prime minister of this country. it has taken two decades but we have got there and rishi sunak is prime minister. this is wonderful news, notjust for the asian community, notjust for the asian community, not just for the south asian community, notjust for the south asian community in the uk, but for the indian community and indians all over the world, to have an indian of indian origin as prime

minister. it indian of indian origin as prime minister. . .. indian of indian origin as prime minister. , ,, ., ., minister. it feels like a wonderful moment. minister. it feels like a wonderful moment- ls _ minister. it feels like a wonderful moment. is it _ minister. it feels like a wonderful moment. is it something - minister. it feels like a wonderful moment. is it something that i moment. is it something that transcends party politics? if we can get away from party politics, that fact in and of itself is, in your view, is it something that a nation should be proud of?— view, is it something that a nation should be proud of? when i came to the uk as a — should be proud of? when i came to the uk as a 19-year-old _ should be proud of? when i came to the uk as a 19-year-old in _ should be proud of? when i came to the uk as a 19-year-old in the i should be proud of? when i came to the uk as a 19-year-old in the early| the uk as a 19—year—old in the early 19805 the uk as a 19—year—old in the early 1980s to study i was told by my family and friends very clearly if you decide to work after your studies you will never get to the top, you will not be allowed to get top, you will not be allowed to get to the top, as a foreigner there will be a glass ceiling. i'm sorry to say they were absolutely right but over the last three or four decades i've seen the glass ceiling absolutely shattered and i really believe this country now is a country where anyone can get anywhere regardless of race, religion or background, and here's an example of rishi sunak making it right to the top as prime minister of the country. we have asians at the cabinet table, asians as leading business people, reaching for the top in every field. i think it is wonderful. however, we still have a long way to go. i'm the first ethnic minority individual to have been appointed president of the confederation of british industry in

its history. it took a long time to get there but we got there. in parliament we now have over 100 mps from an ethnic minority background and members of the house of lords. but 100 is still half the percentage of ethnic minority population in the uk, we are only halfway there and we have a long way to go but we are making phenomenal progress, and for somebody now to become prime minister, that is a real inspiration to others and creates aspiration, it creates achievement, the achievement in itself creates inspiration, it is a virtuous circle and it's wonderful. i a virtuous circle and it's wonderful.— a virtuous circle and it's wonderful. ~ , ., , ., wonderful. i think people are watchint wonderful. i think people are watching will _ wonderful. i think people are watching will feel _ wonderful. i think people are watching will feel that - wonderful. i think people are| watching will feel that coming wonderful. i think people are i watching will feel that coming from you from every pore. that said, you clearly want to celebrate that today. how great is the expectation on rishi sunak, who has a mountain of problems in his in tray? and we will talk about those in a moment. but he has so much to do on a practical level with this nation right now, how great is that extra layer of expectation for him to try

to achieve even more in the way you suggested? we remember when barack obama was elected president of the united states and the weight of expectation on him as if suddenly there would be no racism in the united states because he was in the white house. it's an extra... is it an extra dot is it a burden, layer of responsibility, what is it? how serendipitous that the ethernet has been appointed prime minister on diwali day, hindu new year, so this is a new start and of course there are expectations but i have worked closely with the cbi over the two years when he was chancellor and it couldn't be more challenging times, i would say the most challenging times since the second world war with the pandemic and sad war in ukraine and cost—of—living crisis and energy and i have worked with him at 90 how right he is, how he listens, how he collaborated with business and that is how we got things like the furlough scheme, thatis

things like the furlough scheme, that is how we had the government guarantee bank loans and those initiatives costing £400 billion saved jobs and save businesses to the extent we have got the lowest unemployment rate in this country since the early 1970s so i have faith that he understands business and the he continues to work collaboratively in vince's party together, works and a unified way, brings stability. that might bring his party together. they have only got two years until the next election but i have faith he will be able to deal with the extraordinary challenges. i have seen it first—hand. he's got ability. iie challenges. i have seen it first-hand. he's got ability. he is ca-able. first-hand. he's got ability. he is capable- lt _ first-hand. he's got ability. he is capable- it is _ first-hand. he's got ability. he is capable. it is interesting - first-hand. he's got ability. he is capable. it is interesting that i first-hand. he's got ability. he is capable. it is interesting that in i capable. it is interesting that in his very first — capable. it is interesting that in his very first statement - capable. it is interesting that in his very first statement is i capable. it is interesting that in his very first statement is an i capable. it is interesting that in i his very first statement is an this afternoon profound economic challenges. this is a phrase that he has used. you clearly believe he is absolutely up to the task but he is inheriting... well, we know, we spent the last seven weeks talking about the economic situation that he is inheriting. how, in reality, does he begin to tackle at that time of

crisis, at a time of households worrying about their energy bills, all the other factors that we know about? . ., ., . all the other factors that we know about? t . ., , all the other factors that we know about? . . . , ., , ., about? what has really hurt me and many others — about? what has really hurt me and many others is _ about? what has really hurt me and many others is how— about? what has really hurt me and many others is how over _ about? what has really hurt me and many others is how over the - about? what has really hurt me and many others is how over the last i many others is how over the last week since the 23rd of september that britain has becoming a laughing stock around the world. this great nation, this nation that was looked up nation, this nation that was looked up to, trusted, leader, not a superpower but a global power. we are still the sixth largest economy in the world. we have the nominal capabilities and we have got to get through this now and build back our reputation. —— phenomenal capabilities. that is what she tsimikas got to do. it is not got to be about putting tax up the whole time the highest back tax burden is not the way to do it, it has got to be to encourage investment, encourage growth and in college, balance books to get confidence in the markets. i think you'll get the confidence of the markets, business community, his party and country as a whole and we can start building and growing it is good that those that will create the jobs, create the taxes and pay down the debts. we

have the second lowest debt in the g7, 100% of have the second lowest debt in the g7,100% of gdp around then but he is very prudent and i think it also does want low taxes the long run as well. we have seen austerity hasn't worked. low interest rates, with period we can suddenly built to interest rate to 5% which is to be overfor interest rate to 5% which is to be over for the financial crisis. just like that is what is to be before the financial crisis. it is about dealing with this one small businesses are really suffering and it will be looking for help in the weight has been during the pandemic is in there, got experience and i'm confident he will help. why make very good to talk to. thank you so much, vice president of the business organisation the cbi among many other things. organisation the cbi among many otherthings. let's organisation the cbi among many other things. let's stay with this and get the action from a conservative councillor, sarwar joined me from cheshire. good

happening to you and i'm told the summer you actually voted for liz truss were very interested to know where we are this afternoon what you think of it. first and foremost congratulations to rishi sunakfor becoming the first british asian feminist in the uk. it is actually very hysterical day and i spoke for the —— first british asian prime minister in the uk. i hope forthe british asian prime minister in the uk. i hope for the sake of our country all conservatives across different sectors able to support him in these very difficult time. i think with genuine mean such difficult economic situation with the war in ukraine, cost of living, inflation, bills soaring with a leader competent government and i think this is enough of the course of the weekend really did build up some momentum from mps across different spectrum is the conservative party and i really hope it is a continuity cabinet and we see big name supporting him and i wish you the best of luck. he has got a very difficultjob ahead of him. got a very difficult 'ob ahead of him. . .,

got a very difficult 'ob ahead of him. .., . , got a very difficult 'ob ahead of him. , ., ., , , got a very difficult 'ob ahead of him. ., , , got a very difficult 'ob ahead of him. ,., ., , , .,, ., him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. _ him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. do _ him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. do you _ him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. do you feel- him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. do you feel that i him. on so many levels, as we have been reflecting. do you feel that he | been reflecting. do you feel that he can and will unite the party? because only a few weeks ago we were talking about the fact that the party didn't want him. they wanted liz truss and you were one of the people who voted for her so what is different now, only a matter of weeks later?— different now, only a matter of weeks later? ~ ~ ., ., weeks later? well, i know, i voted for liz truss _ weeks later? well, i know, i voted for liz truss like _ weeks later? well, i know, i voted for liz truss like a _ weeks later? well, i know, i voted for liz truss like a lot _ weeks later? well, i know, i voted for liz truss like a lot of _ for liz truss like a lot of conservative party members and at the time she did present some sensible policies for 45 days we have seen she tried to implement her plan for growth too quickly in the markets didn't react to that properly and unfortunately she made some quite detrimental mistakes to her premiership that obviously led to her resignation last week i think it would be nice to the conservative party membership to be given a vote for the next prime minister but it was very clear that the parliamentary party with an outstanding majority backs and endorsed rishi sunak and i think�*s sake in our country's state coal conservative party members, counsellors, members apart dominate

parliament only to unite behind them and given the best possible chance to save our country from the current economic situation. 50 to save our country from the current economic situation. so fundamentally in the coming — economic situation. so fundamentally in the coming weeks _ economic situation. so fundamentally in the coming weeks and _ economic situation. so fundamentally in the coming weeks and months, i economic situation. so fundamentally in the coming weeks and months, is i in the coming weeks and months, is it all about the economy above anything else?— it all about the economy above anything else? yes, definitely. i think rishi _ anything else? yes, definitely. i think rishi sunak— anything else? yes, definitely. i think rishi sunak needs - anything else? yes, definitely. i think rishi sunak needs to i anything else? yes, definitely. i i think rishi sunak needs to obviously calm the markets down, fill this 40 billion black hole we've got and allow for some stability in our economic climate and also help address the cost crisis, bring them inflation, but also support our allies in ukraine and bring the uk back to its dominant position and unfortunately in the last couple of weeks we haven't had that. we been an absolute mess. —— bring down inflation. an absolute mess. -- bring down inflation. ., .. an absolute mess. -- bring down inflation. ., ,, , ., , an absolute mess. -- bring down inflation. ., ~' , ., , . inflation. thank you very much, a conservative _ inflation. thank you very much, a conservative councillor _ inflation. thank you very much, a conservative councillorjoin i inflation. thank you very much, a conservative councillorjoin you i conservative councillorjoin you there from wilmslow. the cheese in a's intro as we've touched on is enormous, really, isn't it? full of very big challenges —— rishi sunak's

in tray. the political situation are significantly worse than it was when liz truss took office. higher mortgage rates, energy bills as we touched on there and inflation all combining to make it really a very tough winter indeed for so many people up and down the country. the nhs and social care system is struggling. we have talked about that a lot in the last week or two in particular and of course the war in particular and of course the war in ukraine which is largely driving those high energy bills is very much continuing. let's take a moment to discuss one of those issues. nhs and social care interim chief executive of nhs providers which represents hospitals, ambulance trusts, many aspects of the nhs that people now rely on. saffron, the demands on the new prime minister are many. what are the key areas in your specialism that you think rishi sunak needs to be looking at? pic that you

absolutely right, there are huge demands. we have got an hundred and 40,000 vacancies across the nhs a critical front line staff are not the label, available for work for many, many reasons and we also have a waiting list that is top 7 million now and we know that waiting times across all types of services, mental health, community, there is handover times and ambulances are also particularly severe and we know that we've got a massive challenge in social care so that is just three different areas that will be we hope top of the entry for both rishi sunak and his chancellor, assuming thatjeremy hunt stays involved because i think it is absolutely critical that we both get the economy sorted out so there is the available funds to focus on public services in the nhs in particular. studio: are you worried about strikes? . ., studio: are you worried about strikes? , ., ., , strikes? industrial action is something _ strikes? industrial action is something that _ strikes? industrial action is something that is - strikes? industrial action is something that is looming| strikes? industrial action is i something that is looming this autumn and i think we need to be really clear about how that will play out in terms of challenges and front line services but i think

going back to the points i made it is absolutely critical that we look at how we tackle the workforce challenges and the cost of living challenges and the cost of living challenges that staff are facing so we put out a walk a couple of weeks ago —— a couple of weeks ago. that told us that many staff of actually going without meals in order to feed their children and their families. some cannot afford to actually get to work so with each know that the cost of living is a big issue, particularly for lower paid staff, so that is something we've got to sort out but i think what we do welcome here is now hopefully some stability. there has been massive upheaval. there has been policy paralysis for the last few months since the leadership campaigns and then a new prime minister and the prime minister resigning so will we want to see is a bit of stability and to sort out both the funding and the workforce for the nhs so it can get on with the job in hand and to look to social care and make sure that we have a social care system that we have a social care system

thatis that we have a social care system that is invested in and is fit for purpose. that is invested in and is fit for --urose. . , ., that is invested in and is fit for --urose. . . . ., purpose. yes, interesting and not sur-trisin purpose. yes, interesting and not surprising that — purpose. yes, interesting and not surprising that you _ purpose. yes, interesting and not surprising that you mention i purpose. yes, interesting and notj surprising that you mention social care because it is less than a week when we were all discussing that big report that showed that people couldn't get out of hospital, as we know and have said for some time, because of a lack of staffing inside the social care sector and if a new prime minister can solve the social care element it is a bit like unlocking, sourcing is a jigsaw, isn't it was not but that is a big if. . , ,., y . �* isn't it was not but that is a big if. absolutely. we've got to make sure that social _ if. absolutely. we've got to make sure that social care _ if. absolutely. we've got to make sure that social care is _ if. absolutely. we've got to make sure that social care is a - if. absolutely. we've got to make sure that social care is a real- sure that social care is a real privacy because when we sought social care we sort out the flow of patients to hospital and we also sought out some very critical areas that are overlooked like capacity and mental health and capacity and community services and i think the other thing we have to remember is that a functioning health and care system actually contributes to the economy, as well. it is important that we invest in health and care so that we invest in health and care so that health and care can give back to the community, to society, to the

economy. so it is notjust taking, it is also giving, as well as contributing to the health and well—being of the nation. bank contributing to the health and well-being of the nation. bank so much for your— well-being of the nation. bank so much for your time _ well-being of the nation. bank so much for your time for _ well-being of the nation. bank so much for your time for now. i well-being of the nation. bank so | much for your time for now. thank you, from nhs providers.- much for your time for now. thank you, from nhs providers. thank you. we can continue _ you, from nhs providers. thank you. we can continue to _ you, from nhs providers. thank you. we can continue to get _ you, from nhs providers. thank you. we can continue to get reaction i you, from nhs providers. thank you. we can continue to get reaction from i we can continue to get reaction from around the uk and let's head back to wakefield and join our correspond via the top. fiona. this is a city that has to be levelled up and that is why the conservatives grabbed this red bull seat at the last election. labourwon this red bull seat at the last election. labour won it back of course in this year's by—election but people here asking this question today, can rishi sunak deliver on that early election promise? what's your reaction is to rishi sunak becoming prime minister? into your reaction is to rishi sunak becoming prime minister? into words know, in becoming prime minister? into words know. in three _ becoming prime minister? into words know, in three words _ becoming prime minister? into words know, in three words no _ becoming prime minister? into words know, in three words no thank - becoming prime minister? into words know, in three words no thank you. i know, in three words no thank you. he is not... we haven't elected him. he is not... we haven't elected him. he has been voted by members of his

own party. he is the third prime minister we have had in so many months and, no, i think we need a general election. no. what can i say, really? no thanks. i general election. no. what can i say, really? no thanks.- general election. no. what can i say, really? no thanks. ithink, as exnected. — say, really? no thanks. ithink, as exnected. i— say, really? no thanks. ithink, as expected, ithink— say, really? no thanks. ithink, as expected, i think she _ say, really? no thanks. ithink, as expected, i think she will- say, really? no thanks. ithink, as expected, i think she will give - say, really? no thanks. ithink, as expected, i think she will give the | expected, i think she will give the stability— expected, i think she will give the stability because he was a chancellor before and he can don a candle _ chancellor before and he can don a candle that — chancellor before and he can don a candle that very well. what more can i say? _ candle that very well. what more can i say? i _ candle that very well. what more can i sa ? . ., , , , , i say? i am not impressed. i 'ust feelthey fl i say? i am not impressed. i 'ust feel they are alli i say? i am not impressed. i 'ust feel they are all in i i say? i am not impressed. i 'ust feel they are all in the i i say? i am not impressed. i 'ust feel they are all in the same b feel they are all in the same bucket, they are all... i think the country at the moment is just in that much of devastation and it is gone too low for what i would like to see the country become, like the health sector has gone down and me as a residential worker, i see family struggle because the gas and electricity has gone up, the food has gone up, the care of the young people, they've got no money, no increase in money to help and electricity has gone up, the food has gone up, the care of the young

people, they've got no money, no increase in money to help them survive. ~ ., ., . ., survive. without going too much into it we're just — survive. without going too much into it we're just going — survive. without going too much into it we're just going to _ survive. without going too much into it we're just going to get _ survive. without going too much into it we're just going to get taxed - it we're just going to get taxed more, he is going to give tax allowance to his buddies. we're 'ust caettin allowance to his buddies. we're 'ust getting bombed. �* allowance to his buddies. we're 'ust getting bombed. howi allowance to his buddies. we're 'ust getting bombed. how much i allowance to his buddies. we're 'ust getting bombed. how much tax h allowance to his buddies. we're just getting bombed. how much tax we | getting bombed. how much tax we playing _ getting bombed. how much tax we playing any? fuelled everything. can afford _ playing any? fuelled everything. can afford to— playing any? fuelled everything. can afford to live. i do exactly on a low wage, _ afford to live. i do exactly on a low wage, in £1000 a week in a sore can't afford _ low wage, in £1000 a week in a sore can't afford sometimes revive my family _ can't afford sometimes revive my family the — can't afford sometimes revive my family. the sex is a joke and the tories _ family. the sex is a joke and the tories need _ family. the sex is a joke and the tories need out but i don't vote 'ust tories need out but i don't vote just for— tories need out but i don't vote just for the _ tories need out but i don't vote just for the simple fact there is nobody— just for the simple fact there is nobody are one in power, i don't like none — nobody are one in power, idon't like none of— nobody are one in power, i don't like none of them. just like nobody i want _ like none of them. just like nobody i want in _ like none of them. just like nobody i want in power. this like none of them. just like nobody i want in power.— i want in power. this town is like many towns _ i want in power. this town is like many towns and _ i want in power. this town is like many towns and cities _ i want in power. this town is like many towns and cities across - i want in power. this town is likej many towns and cities across the i want in power. this town is like - many towns and cities across the uk rely on manufacturing, and mining, and now wants development and investment, once higher paid jobs and like many other towns and cities family who are struggling. we spoke to one shopkeeper here earlier today who is selling school uniforms at cost, not making a profit on those. that is what he is doing for some families because they need help. they want change here, they saw that today, but they are not yet

convinced that they are going to feel it. fiona, thank you for now. our correspondent fiona top they're getting the action follows in wakefield. we will have much more, of course, throughout the evening, much more from five o'clock. rishi sunak is the new prime minister. lets... just... well, as i say, let'sjust lets... just... well, as i say, let's just say the scene across westminster, beautiful internet at the houses of parliament tonight over there, over at westminster. the houses of parliament tonight overthere, overat westminster. i was expecting a different camera angle and hoping to tell you something about what a number of mps were up to tonight but we don't have you right now but anyway it's lovely miss look at, isn't it? rishi sunak said just a few brief words earlier this afternoon. we are still waiting for little bit more detail, logistics, choreography of what will happen. we think the formality will take place tomorrow but we arsenal waiting for confirmation of that. much more coverage from here from

five o'clock. we willjust pause for a moment, though, because on a very busy day will try and catch up with the weather prospects as well in this part of london and indeed wherever you are across the country. all the latest details coming up. to some very wild weather over the weekend today and tomorrow looks relatively mild. thus the week will at times bring some rain which could be quite heavy interspersed with sunshine and showers. this evening and overnight most of the showers will be confined across northern and western areas, very few into the eastis western areas, very few into the east is a lot of dry weather here in the breeze and that slightly milder air mass and temperature is no lower than 7—11 . in between weather systems, if you like, for tuesday, which is why it is going to be another quiet day but generally low pressure will be dominating this

evening, this next feature pushing up evening, this next feature pushing up to the south and south—west the country late on tuesday but if you look at that it is a fine day i think to come for most places, lots of dry weather, some sunshine, few dotted around here and here and there and in the wet, windy weather starts revive across the south—west later on. temperatures up to around 18, may be 19 degrees and a warm and spots, generally 15, 16 in the north. this feature starts to develop a little bit as it moves northwards across the country, most of the rain and the strongest of the winds towards the western half of the uk, plenty of isobars on there. what it will be doing is dragging up some very mild air from the self as it continues to advance northwards. we hold on to the south or south—westerly winds for the rest of the week so a wet, windy stuff that day on wednesday because northern areas, that will clear northwards and that is sunshine in blustery showers, some very heavy ones across northern and western areas, if you getting in towards the east is well but in the sunshine with that mild air mass we could be up to around 20 degrees or so across eastern areas.

then we held onto that vile southerly breeze as we move into thursday with again a chance of showers, longer spells of rain could be on the heavy sigh particularly crossing england and wales to begin with they show us where their way northwards through the day on thursday and in the sunshine comes out with that mild air mass we could perhaps be up to around 21, may be 22 degrees and in the sunshine comes out with that mild air mass we could perhaps be up to around 21, may be 22 degrees in the warmer spots across the south—east mid to high teens for the north as well to these values are a lot higher than what we expected some of year there will be lost at the male theme through friday and indeed into the weekend but with low pressure always nearby is likely to see if you showers and further spells of rain, most of the rain across the north and the west.

you are watching bbc news with tim —— tim wilcox outside downing street where rishi sunak has just been announced as the uk's next prime minister and leader of the conservative party. it is the greatest privilege of my life to be able to serve the party i love and give back to the country i owe so much to. the former chancellor will become the uk's first british—asian prime minister, and the youngest for more than a century — as senior figures in the party call for unity. there is no point in re—fighting the arguments of the summer. the only thing now in the minds of my conservative parliamentary colleagues should be supporting the prime minister, supporting the government, supporting the british people.