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this is bbc news, i'mjoanna gosling live from downing street where rishi sunak is the firm favourite to replace liz truss as prime minister. rishi sunak will today become prime minister — he'll have an audience with the king at buckingham palace and will address the nation from here in downing street later this morning. we now need stability and unity and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together. bring our party and our country touether. �* ., ., , , ., , together. before that, liz truss has convened her— together. before that, liz truss has convened her final _ together. before that, liz truss has convened her final cabinet - together. before that, liz truss has convened her final cabinet meeting| convened her final cabinet meeting after just seven weeks
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convened her final cabinet meeting afterjust seven weeks in office, making her the shortest serving prime minister in british history. i cannot deliver the mandate on which i was elected by the conservative party. i have therefore spoken to his majesty the king to notify him that i am resigning as leader of the conservative party. this is the easy bit, they will appreciate the transition from one prime minister to the other. after that, in tough road lies ahead with rising inflation, rising bills and rising inflation, rising bills and rising interest rates. we will bring you more throughout another momentous day in british politics. do stay with us on bbc news.
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it has been a period of immense instability in british politics, the transitions between two prime ministers in a matter of months. a busy summer, a long contest to decide who would become the leader of the conservative party, the ruling party in the uk at the moment. they have been in office first with coalition partners then on their own for 12 years. in the end that race was run by the woman currently in number ten, liz truss. she beat rishi sunak, the man who will now succeed to afterjust seven weeks, after a disastrous budget was poorly received by the markets and a political crisis ensued. rishi sunak will be the first british agent to make it to number 10 downing street and at 42 he becomes the youngest prime ministerfor more and at 42 he becomes the youngest prime minister for more than 200 years, since the appropriately named to the younger. let's take you through what you can expect during
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the course of this morning. liz truss currently holding a cabinet meeting inside number ten, the last of the current meeting of cabinet ministers, all of whom are only appointed about six weeks ago. many of whom will not be in anyjob by the end of the day. she will make a statement outside number ten at around 10:15, she carries out the shortjourney to downing street, but less than a mile, i suspect she will do it in the ministerial car, the last time she will be in one for now. we will doubtless see that journey from the skies and watch as it appears at buckingham palace and she will have an audience with the king. the king will ask her advice, who to appoint as prime minister, we expect to say rishi sunak, that will be the constitutional convention. after this, she departs, rishi sunak will another scene was carefully choreographed appearance, they never bump into each other outside, that
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would be awkward. he will be invited to form a government by the king, likely to say yes, back to downing street and the new prime minister will address the nation at around 11:35. from his new podium, a bespoke podium, i did not know this until today, bespoke podium, i did not know this untiltoday, prime bespoke podium, i did not know this until today, prime minister's get with their own podium adjusted to their height so the microphone is in their height so the microphone is in the right place. 0ver their height so the microphone is in the right place. over the next 2a hours we can expect to see a possible flood of cabinet appointments because rishi sunak has known for if few hours he's going to be prime minister. at the very least, he will have been sketching out the sort of cabinet team he wants. the mistake he has to avoid is the one many political services... including many conservative mps now think was made, having a cabinet made up only of his political allies. any moment i will bejoining downing street cheaply school corresponding but first...
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the moment rishi sunak became leader of his party. good afternoon. as returning officer in the leadership election, i can confirm that we have received one valid nomination. he will officially become prime minister later this morning. his nearest rival, penny mordaunt, was unable to get enough support from fellow mps to force a vote of the party membership. rishi sunak was ultimately unopposed. he will be the uk's first british—asian prime minister, and its youngest for more than 200 years. it is the greatest privilege of my life to be able to serve the party i love and give back to the country i owe so much to. the united kingdom is a great country. but there is no doubt we face a profound economic challenge. we now need stability and unity,
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and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together. a change of power happens again without the general election. 0pposition parties believe this time the public had a say. he is the third prime — the public had a say. he is the third prime minister— the public had a say. he is the third prime minister in - the public had a say. he is the third prime minister in three l third prime minister in three months. _ third prime minister in three months, the fifth in six years, we have _ months, the fifth in six years, we have had — months, the fifth in six years, we have had four chancellors, it has all been — have had four chancellors, it has all been very chaotic and unstable. it is increasingly clear that conservatives _ it is increasingly clear that conservatives don't- it is increasingly clear that conservatives don't trust l it is increasingly clear that . conservatives don't trust the british— conservatives don't trust the british people, _ conservatives don't trust the british people, and - conservatives don't trust the british people, and they- conservatives don't trust the british people, and they are| conservatives don't trust the . british people, and they are not going _ british people, and they are not going to — going to give the british people be say they— going to give the british people be say they should _ going to give the british people be say they should have. _ going to give the british people be say they should have. i _ going to give the british people be say they should have. i think- going to give the british people be i say they should have. i think people are furious_ say they should have. i think people are furious about _ say they should have. i think people are furious about it. _ say they should have. i think people are furious about it.— are furious about it. scotland's first minister _ are furious about it. scotland's first minister wants _ are furious about it. scotland's first minister wants to - are furious about it. scotland's first minister wants to work i first minister wants to work constructively but agrees the voters need to be heard. he constructively but agrees the voters need to be heard.— need to be heard. he is the second erson in need to be heard. he is the second person in a — need to be heard. he is the second person in a row— need to be heard. he is the second person in a row to _ need to be heard. he is the second person in a row to be _ need to be heard. he is the second person in a row to be appointed - need to be heard. he is the second person in a row to be appointed as| person in a row to be appointed as prime minister by tories, not elected by the population. the idea he can go two years before seeking or winning a democratic mandate i
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think isjust or winning a democratic mandate i think is just unthinkable. or winning a democratic mandate i think isjust unthinkable. think is 'ust unthinkable. attention will think isjust unthinkable. attention will soon turn _ think isjust unthinkable. attention will soon turn to _ think isjust unthinkable. attention will soon turn to the _ think isjust unthinkable. attention will soon turn to the question - think isjust unthinkable. attention will soon turn to the question of i will soon turn to the question of who will make up rishi sunak�*s top team. the chancellorjeremy hunt has been working on an economic plan to been working on an economic plan to be published on the 31st of october, but will he be the person to deliver it? the soon prime minister says uniting his party is a priority. the composition of his new cabinet will be of vital importance here. i'm joined now by our chief political correspondent nick eardley. a very busy morning but we should not underestimate the fact it is going to be a very busy few months for the new prime minister, starting with that big statement next week on the budget. the bits we were missing. it the budget. the bits we were missinr. , ., ., ~ ., ., missing. it is hard to think of a more daunting _ missing. it is hard to think of a more daunting entry _ missing. it is hard to think of a more daunting entry for- missing. it is hard to think of a more daunting entry for rishi i missing. it is hard to think of a - more daunting entry for rishi sunak, a sense of deja vu, said that seven weeks ago when liz truss turned up, but amazingly the situation has only got more problematic for a new prime minister. there was the turmoil in
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the markets, inflation is still going up, people are facing higher bills, prices and at the same time the conservative party hasn't managed to get its act together yet and figure out exactly what it actually wants to do with power. when rishi sunak arrives here in a couple of hours' time, he will know his time in office is going to be defined by what he does on the economy, even though he has to hit the ground running and as you say, the ground running and as you say, the first thing he needs to work out is whether the plan that the chancellorjeremy hunt has been drawing up over the past few weeks is going on the right direction. rishi sunak will want to stamp his own authority on and decide for sure exactly what spending cuts and tax rises we might seek to balance the books. �* .., , rises we might seek to balance the books. �* , ., , rises we might seek to balance the books. , ., _, rises we might seek to balance the books. , ., i, , ., books. because any sense we cannot sa the books. because any sense we cannot say the seven — books. because any sense we cannot say the seven weeks _ books. because any sense we cannot say the seven weeks never— books. because any sense we cannot say the seven weeks never happen, l books. because any sense we cannot| say the seven weeks never happen, it has left a legacy. notjust a legacy over the question of competence for the conservative party, also a legacy in terms of the economic
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damage done in a relatively short period. damage done in a relatively short eriod. �* , , , period. absolutely, there will be able to conservative _ period. absolutely, there will be able to conservative citrine - period. absolutely, there will be | able to conservative citrine gloss over the last seven weeks and pretend it did not happen, but you speak to a lot of tory mps are speak to economists listen to economists and a lot of them will say liz truss has made rishi sunak�*sjob a lot harder. there will be that strange moment today where there is the physical handover of power where we see staff members come out here and go back to number 11 and disappear out the back door... go back to number“ and disappear out the back door. . ._ out the back door... some of them will not have _ out the back door... some of them will not have jobs _ out the back door... some of them will not have jobs any _ out the back door... some of them will not have jobs any more. - out the back door... some of them will not have jobs any more. a - out the back door... some of them will not have jobs any more. a lot. will not have “obs any more. a lot of them, the— will not have jobs any more. a lot of them, the political _ will not have jobs any more. a lot of them, the political aides, - of them, the political aides, special advisers rishi sunak wants to bring in replace liz truss's. pare to bring in replace liz truss's. are seeinr to bring in replace liz truss's. are seeing some _ to bring in replace liz truss's. are seeing some of— to bring in replace liz truss's. are seeing some of the cabinet rivals, jeremy hunt. is he the one person the cabinet can be sure will still have a job? he the cabinet can be sure will still have a job?— have a job? he was asked this mornin: have a job? he was asked this morning and _ have a job? he was asked this morning and said _ have a job? he was asked this morning and said he did not . have a job? he was asked this - morning and said he did not know, i think it's likely he will for simple reason he has managed to get a bit of stability in the economy, get the markets in a place where
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they are not panicking as much about what the government is doing. i think he is probably one who stays in hisjob. when it comes to think he is probably one who stays in his job. when it comes to the rest of the cabinet, rishi sunak has big decisions to make.— rest of the cabinet, rishi sunak has big decisions to make. presumably he can make a mistake _ big decisions to make. presumably he can make a mistake many— big decisions to make. presumably he can make a mistake many think- big decisions to make. presumably he can make a mistake many think liz i can make a mistake many think liz truss made which was pack it with allies. �* �* ., , truss made which was pack it with allies. �* 1, _ ., ,., truss made which was pack it with allies. �* allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same. _ allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same. l _ allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same, i don't _ allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same, i don't think- allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same, i don't think we i allies. and boris johnson, bay both at the same, i don't think we will. at the same, i don't think we will see that from the new prime minister, speaking to his allies this morning they want to see a more diverse cabinet, more wings of the conservative party in there to try and bring it together. but that brings with it its own problems, because we've heard a lot of conservative mps say this morning get on with governing, forget about the ideological stuff, get on with governing, but actually i was suggest the two things are linked. if you think of the economic decisions that are coming, what cuts they make? that's ideological. what taxes the prop? that's ideological. take immigration is one example, there are tory mps that would argue you need to relax immigration rules to get more migrant workers and to
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push the economy, but there are also senior tories who would say we made a promise to the electorate to bring immigration down, a big part of why they think people voted for brexit, so they will be arguing you need to deliver that. so you will hear a lot of calls for unity over the next few hours, but if the last few months have taught us anything, it's easier said than done.— said than done. reddy clear, you mention the _ said than done. reddy clear, you mention the question _ said than done. reddy clear, you mention the question of - said than done. reddy clear, you i mention the question of emigration, thatis mention the question of emigration, that is interwoven with the poster brexit environment in which britain lives, trying to project itself to the world, this idea of a globalised britain under borisjohnson, talking about growth being the recovery engine for the british economy, part of that growth is want to be external, need raleigh rally celebrants are going on at the moment —— diwali. delighted by the appointment of rishi sunak because if they think anyone is meant to be more sympathetic to their argument,
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the skilled labour needed in britain to grow the economy, it is rishi sunak because of his strong heritage in india. , ~ sunak because of his strong heritage in india. , ,, ., sunak because of his strong heritage in india. , ~ ., , in india. yes, i think that will be art of in india. yes, i think that will be part of the _ in india. yes, i think that will be part of the argument. _ in india. yes, i think that will be part of the argument. it - in india. yes, i think that will be part of the argument. it is i in india. yes, i think that will be part of the argument. it is also l part of the argument. it is also worth remembering rishi sunak�*s political background, as well as his upbringing as well. rishi sunak is a brexiteer, someone who backed brexit against the warnings of senior politicians at the time. he doesn't like the idea of being too tied to the european union, yes, he voted for some of the brexit deals, but he is not someone who is ideological in a completely different place when it comes to europe than the last two prime ministers, so don't assume suddenly he comes up with a closer relationship with europe just to satisfy the economic demands. he is political as well, a small state tory at heart. political as well, a small state tory at heart-— political as well, a small state tory at heart. political as well, a small state to at heart. ., ., �* ., , tory at heart. you don't get to be prime minister _ tory at heart. you don't get to be prime minister if _ tory at heart. you don't get to be prime minister if you're _ tory at heart. you don't get to be prime minister if you're not i tory at heart. you don't get to be prime minister if you're not very l prime minister if you're not very political, is not an accident he has ended up in number ten.- political, is not an accident he has ended up in number ten. well, yes, he has been — ended up in number ten. well, yes, he has been helped _ ended up in number ten. well, yes, he has been helped by _
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ended up in number ten. well, yes, i he has been helped by circumstances. events helping... yell among the political fortunes of rishi sunak have gone up and down like the british economy in the last few weeks. ,, ., ., weeks. seven weeks ago when liz truss arrived _ weeks. seven weeks ago when liz truss arrived here, _ weeks. seven weeks ago when liz truss arrived here, we _ weeks. seven weeks ago when liz truss arrived here, we thought i weeks. seven weeks ago when liz i truss arrived here, we thought rishi sunak�*s political career was pretty much over. he may well have left parliament and decided to do something else. today, a couple of hours from now, he gets the top job. seven weeks' time, perhaps we should have this conversation again. let's talk to our royal correspondent nicholas witchell who's at buckingham palace for us. good morning to you. what constitutional process will be see played out over the next few hours? good morning. the choreography is well practised. we've seen it most recently, just seven weeks ago to the day on the 6th of september, and that was all up at balmoral, because of the frailty of queen elizabeth on
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that occasion, her last formal due to two days before her death. we saw borisjohnson a ten bar model to resign as prime minister and then liz truss to be invited to form a government. that was seven weeks ago and we will see the same choreography played out again in a very much more straightforward manner this morning, very much more straightforward mannerthis morning, in very much more straightforward manner this morning, in terms of the logistics, it will all take place here at buckingham palace. the cows are parted, there are some lovely autumn sunshine at the moment, and at 1030 after the cabinet session she is now chairing, liz truss will come to buckingham palace and tender her resignation to king charles, the first time he has presided over this transition of prime minister, and at about 11 o'clock london time, rishi sunak will arrive and there will be an audience with the king, the king under the british constitution day
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one person who can invite somebody to become prime minister, and will invite that person to form a government. this is one of the areas where the sovereign can exercise what is known as the royal prerogative. he will have been given advice by liz truss as to whom he should invite to form a government, but he is not obliged to follow that advice. the criteria here in the united kingdom is that the prime minister is the leader of the largest party in the house of commons, must be a person, he or she must be a person that command the confidence of the house of commons and it will be on that basis that the king will invite rishi sunak as a leader now of the conservative party to form a government and to become prime minister. the ceremony is known as the kissing of hands, a kind of legacy from centuries ago, there is no kissing, but there will be simply a handshake. this morning we will see britain's shortest
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serving prime minister liz truss handing over to britain's youngest prime ministerfor more handing over to britain's youngest prime minister for more than 200 years, since william pitt the younger was appointed prime minster at the age of 2a in the late part of the 18th—century, but more significantly of course, rishi sunak will be the first british prime minister of colour, of indian origin, and that i think will be a matter of of particular satisfaction to king charles who has made such a point over the years as prince of wales in support of diversity and diversity of faith and multiculturalism here in the united kingdom. multiculturalism here in the united kinudom. ., .,, ., kingdom. there are those who will view this as _ kingdom. there are those who will view this as a _ kingdom. there are those who will view this as a wholly _ kingdom. there are those who will view this as a wholly anachronistic| view this as a wholly anachronistic process, that raw power is about parliament, who commands the house of commons, and that this is kind of theatre, that in some ways kind of player is the reality. what is the view of the importance of it inside the royal house? —— blur is the
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reality. i the royal house? -- blur is the reali . ~ , ., ., reality. i think it is one of the main tasks — reality. i think it is one of the main tasks that _ reality. i think it is one of the main tasks that a _ reality. i think it is one of the main tasks that a british i reality. i think it is one of the i main tasks that a british sovereign carries out, to invite somebody to form a government, to become prime minister and it is that separation, the power of government, the executive, and having a monarch who is above the political fray. this complete separation, and that i think is regarded, as i say, as a particular matter of importance in a very particular and important duty that the sovereign house, and it is, as i mentioned a moment ago, it is still an area as i mentioned a moment ago, it is stillan area in as i mentioned a moment ago, it is still an area in which mnemonic can exercise this old, something called the royal prerogative. in practice, the royal prerogative. in practice, the monarch will always invite the person who leads the largest party in the house of commons to form a government, but this is certainly an important moment both for the royal household, for the monarchy to be
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seen to be exercising this duty, this responsibility, the separation of the role of the monarch from the political establishment, to appoint an invite somebody to become prime minister. . ~ an invite somebody to become prime minister. ., ,, , ., , . �* , minister. thank you very much. let's talk about the _ minister. thank you very much. let's talk about the hard _ minister. thank you very much. let's talk about the hard political- talk about the hard political realities that are facing the new prime minister when he takes office later this morning. the economy, of course, is the critical one, after that badly received budget by the former chancellor who liz truss promptly sacked, replaced with jeremy hunt, who in effect collapsed the economic policy that liz truss had won the conservative leadership election on, a big push for growth, tax cuts funded by extended borrowing and some kind of supply—side changes which were thought to include speeding up things like planning reform in the uk, allowing more infrastructure construction and also spending cuts.
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all of that was put on hold by the arrival ofjeremy hunt. he has his budget, unwanted date to choose, the 31st of october, next monday, all hallows eve, a time for spooks and ghouls and all things creepy to emerge, and there were some creepy prospects in terms of the public finances. joining me now is carl emmerson, deputy director of the ifs, the institute for fiscal studies. they took a hard line on mac to cut proposals. thank you for being with us. —— liz truss's proposals. reminders about the impact of that budget and where it leaves the economic situation the new prime minister is facing?— minister is facing? absolutely, if we no minister is facing? absolutely, if we to all minister is facing? absolutely, if we go all the _ minister is facing? absolutely, if we go all the way _ minister is facing? absolutely, if we go all the way back— minister is facing? absolutely, if we go all the way back to i minister is facing? absolutely, if we go all the way back to march | minister is facing? absolutely, if- we go all the way back to march when rishi sunak was chancellor, he left the situation where it looked like there was about £30 billion worth of wiggle room against the government's fiscal targets that were then just legislated. to date changes then followed, firstly russia's invasion
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of ukraine, massive increase in european gas prices, a much worse outlook for the uk economy and requiring the uk government to step in and provide a lot of support households and businesses with energy bills. secondly, liz truss and her chancellor plus mac mini budget that had £115 million of tax cuts with no attempt to... that left public finances in a precarious state, debt on a rising part and at that point we estimated a fiscal tightening of about £60 million might be needed to stabilise things, to keep their only path is not continuing to rise evermore. jeremy hunt since then has reversed £32 billion worth of those tax rises, they have been cancelled. so the situation is not as bad as it looked a couple of weeks ago, but still some very difficult decisions to be made, and they're coming just next monday, clearly going to be the top
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of rishi sunak�*s new intro. to monday, clearly going to be the top of rishi sunak's new intro.- of rishi sunak's new intro. to what extent is inflation _ of rishi sunak's new intro. to what extent is inflation eating _ of rishi sunak's new intro. to what extent is inflation eating into i of rishi sunak's new intro. to what extent is inflation eating into the i extent is inflation eating into the pie the government has to distribute through public spending?— through public spending? inflation is causina through public spending? inflation is causing lots _ through public spending? inflation is causing lots of— through public spending? inflation is causing lots of problems, i through public spending? inflation i is causing lots of problems, pushing up is causing lots of problems, pushing up how much the government is spending on debt interest, pushes up how much we need to spend on state pensions, welfare benefits if we are going to keep their value preserved in real terms. and also means the spending allocations to public services that were set out a year ago by borisjohnson and rishi sunak now don't look anywhere near as generous as what was intended. public services also use energy, they are having public sector pay demands bigger than what they expected, the ministry of defence buys products at a price in dollars, all of that makes it much more expensive, and we think you did want to restore the generosity of the spending plans to what was intended a year ago, you need to find £20 billion are sought by the final year of this parliament and that seems highly unlikely to happen, given the tightness of the fiscal situation.
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lets talk about one other aspect of this, which is the options in terms of taxation. there has been a big push, a concern in the conservative party that under rishi sunak, and after all, we should not forget he was chancellor until he resigned from boris johnson's was chancellor until he resigned from borisjohnson's cabinet, precipitating borisjohnson's own resignation, and that's enough for some conservatives to think you should never have been allowed to become prime minister and that he has to deal with that legacy potentially among some in the party membership. let's put that aside, he was chancellor, the man who put up taxes to their highest level we are told, you told us, in nearly 70 years. the trust plans to cut some of the tax increases, and some have already been restored byjeremy hunt —— the liz truss plant. can he go back to where he was when he delivered his own budget back in the spring? the delivered his own budget back in the s-urin ? . delivered his own budget back in the surin ? ., ,y , delivered his own budget back in the sufi“? ., ., delivered his own budget back in the siirin? ., ., delivered his own budget back in the s-irin? ., ., ., spring? the tax system now looks a little bit different _ spring? the tax system now looks a little bit different to _ spring? the tax system now looks a little bit different to what _
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spring? the tax system now looks a little bit different to what rishi i little bit different to what rishi sunak left out. we have cut stamp duty, got rid of the health and social care levy, so the tax burden is not going to be quite as high as what we thought back in march, but it will still be very high and around its highest level since the 19505. around its highest level since the 1950s. you have to look at why was rishi sunak and borisjohnson pushing up the tax burden? it was clearly predicated on desire to spend more on health and social care, you desire are at least an inability, desire not to cut anywhere else, and end to austerity for all government departments, and a desire to get the government borrowing back down so that pointed to the need to put taxes up. we are now in a position where we most certainly need to restore the sustainability of the public finances, and we have choices to make about how much do we want to do on the tax i? putting taxes up, how much we want to do on the spending side, squeezing spending on public services or on cash payments to working age families and pensioners.
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thank you very much. there was a lovely moment when the cabinet ministers arrived here this morning, when ben wallace made this kind of big expansive gesture with his hands when he arrived at downing street, as if to say, well, i asked him, can you translate and he aside, i'd love to know what he was thinking at that point. he is one of those people who would have thought was relatively safe in hisjob, hugely popular with conservative party members, others think you might have his ambitions elsewhere, you have to decided not to run in this leadership contest. he was a close ally of borisjohnson since the days of the brexit referendum, there will be those who think maybe he would be somebody who could be a future nato secretary general. the current secretary general. the current secretary general is due to leave and take up a post running his country's sovereign wealth fund. we can talk about cabinet dilemmas to our chief political correspondent. this is a really difficult... it is notjust a shuffling of the pack, is it? jacob rees mogg to sleep in, i don't know
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if that's the cabinet may be breaking up, they all havejobs if that's the cabinet may be breaking up, they all have jobs to do, so perhaps not gathering to applaud her departure. not simply shuffling the pack. i applaud her departure. not simply shuffling the pack.— shuffling the pack. i think that is riht shuffling the pack. i think that is ri i ht and shuffling the pack. i think that is right and when _ shuffling the pack. i think that is right and when rishi _ shuffling the pack. i think that is right and when rishi sunak- shuffling the pack. i think that is right and when rishi sunak gets | shuffling the pack. i think that is i right and when rishi sunak gets in here this afternoon he will have a lot to weigh up. he wants to do a number of different things. you probably will keepjeremy hunt, chancellor, not confirmed that that is my hunch for the simple reason mr hunt has managed to bring a bit of stability. hunt has managed to bring a bit of stabili . ~ , . ~ hunt has managed to bring a bit of stabili . ~ , ., ~ ., ,, , stability. why make the markets never see again? _ stability. why make the markets never see again? exactly. i stability. why make the marketsl never see again? exactly. beyond that, a bit of— never see again? exactly. beyond that, a bit of a — never see again? exactly. beyond that, a bit of a balancing - never see again? exactly. beyond that, a bit of a balancing act. i that, a bit of a balancing act. rishi sunak will want to bring some of his close allies in, the people who have worked with him over the last few months like dominic raab, i would have thought, the former deputy prime minister, but he also wants to bring in... taste deputy prime minister, but he also wants to bring in. . ._ wants to bring in... we are seeing the cabinet _ wants to bring in... we are seeing the cabinet ministers _ wants to bring in... we are seeing the cabinet ministers living i wants to bring in... we are seeing the cabinet ministers living there. j the cabinet ministers living there. likely foreign secretary james cleverley. likely foreign secretary james cleverle . ., ,, . ., , likely foreign secretary james cleverle. ., ,, . cleverley. foreign secretary, good mornini , cleverley. foreign secretary, good morning. what _ cleverley. foreign secretary, good morning, what was _ cleverley. foreign secretary, good morning, what was the _
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cleverley. foreign secretary, good morning, what was the mood i cleverley. foreign secretary, good morning, what was the mood this| morning, what was the mood this morning? how would you characterise the mood, foreign secretary? ibire morning? how would you characterise the mood, foreign secretary? are you sta ini the mood, foreign secretary? are you sta im in the mood, foreign secretary? are you staying in your — the mood, foreign secretary? are you staying in yourjob. — the mood, foreign secretary? are you staying in yourjob, mr _ the mood, foreign secretary? are you staying in yourjob, mr cleverley? i staying in yourjob, mr cleverley? he does not know the answer, may be an unfair question. this is the good thing about standing the side of downing street. let thing about standing the side of downing street.— thing about standing the side of downing street. thing about standing the side of downini street. , ., ., _ ., downing street. let say goodbye to our viewers — downing street. let say goodbye to our viewers in _ downing street. let say goodbye to our viewers in the _ downing street. let say goodbye to our viewers in the united _ downing street. let say goodbye to our viewers in the united states. i our viewers in the united states. sorry to interrupt you, neck. that's ok. the sorry to interrupt you, neck. that's 0k- the good _ sorry to interrupt you, neck. that's ok. the good thing _ sorry to interrupt you, neck. that's ok. the good thing about - sorry to interrupt you, neck. that's ok. the good thing about standing| 0k. the good thing about standing here is it is quite narrow, people cannot avoid you in the same way. just to recap, rishi sunak will want to bring in his allies, he will want to bring in his allies, he will want to keep some people injobs that offer stability to the economy, but he will also want to give the impression he is uniting his party, bringing in may be some of boris johnson's allies are some of liz truss' allies. that something neither of the last two related. what about all the talent that's been knocking around for years, ministers, that a lot of colleagues would think would be rather good cabinet ministers butjust haven't had the opportunity?
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cabinet ministers but 'ust haven't had the opportunity?i had the opportunity? really good iuestion. had the opportunity? really good question. rishi— had the opportunity? really good question. rishi sunak, _ had the opportunity? really good| question. rishi sunak, remember had the opportunity? really good i question. rishi sunak, remember he has only been an mp for seven years, and tights become transferred by accident as that and tights become transferred by accident as tha— accident as that done quite well. said javid accident as that done quite well. sajid javid quit — accident as that done quite well. sajid javid quit over _ accident as that done quite well. sajid javid quit over whose i sajid javid quit over whose political aides would be with dominic cummings, so that is a really good question, does he bring more fresh blood into the cabinet to try and revitalise government? let’s try and revitalise government? let's not beat around... _ try and revitalise government? let's not beat around... some _ try and revitalise government? let's not beat around... some have been knocking around for quite a while and everyone cut energy levels, is and everyone cut energy levels, is an intensivejob, we sometimes forget how demanding it is to be a cabinet minister in terms of your time, being managed by civil servants, balance commitments in the house of commons, this is in the country, keeping up with paperwork, being at meetings, having ideas, being at meetings, having ideas, being shouted at in downing street by full slick you and me and also having a constituency to represent. a lot of conservative mps right now worried about their constituencies,
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will want to spend a lot of time trying to shore up with paperwork, being in meetings, having ideas, being in meetings, having ideas, being shouted at in downing street by full slick you and me and also having a constituency to represent. a lot of conservative mps right now worried about their constituencies, will want to spend a lot of time trying to sort out their personal poke. there is the education —— was education secretary for two days, culture secretary now, what she have a job by the end of the day? let's wait and see. 0nejob a job by the end of the day? let's wait and see. 0ne job that will be interesting to keep an eye on and a challenging one is chief whip. wendy martin i'm almost certain will not be chief whip by the end of the day, had a pretty tough time of it, not gone down all that well with some conservative mps, a row over discipline in the party that broke the camels back —— wendy morton. let's see who gets the chief whip job. —— kamel�*s back. the thing to watch out for over the next few weeks as we hear a lot of conservative say just get weeks as we hear a lot of conservative sayjust get on with delivery, don't worry about ideology, just, delivering, but i
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don't think they too are possible to separate, because if you talk about economic growth, different conservative mps have very different visions of how you get it. we all agree is a good idea but some would say the rise rules of immigration. get more migrant workers in. some would say the opposite that there was a political promise made. some would say have a closer relationship with europe. some of absolutely don't. pretty soon at cactus, then wave a magic wand and make all those issues go away. whatever calls for unity we hear, there are real tensions in the conservative party. the party still trying to work out exactly what it stands for, his job now to try and keep them together. thank you very much. the magic magic money tree, wouldn't they be nice? what we can say for the prime minister, back home in his constituency of richmond in north yorkshire there will be a few pints forward, opening a bottle of fizz and celebrating that their boy has
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done come good in the end. not the first time they have had a successful local mp, his predecessor a less successful leader but a very successful foreign secretary, well known internationally. before that leon britton, home secretary in margaret thatcher's government, so richmond in north yorkshire has always done rather well out of its conservative mps. letsjoin ben in the lets join ben in the constituency. it's a little early for pulling the pints and popping the face, but it is a nice morning in the market square in richmond, rishi sunak's constituency, he has been the mp here since 2015. they have opened some nice tea room is a pause this morning. we've had some figures that reflect the cost of living figures that will be at the top of the agenda. the office of national statistics has published figures, looking at 30 typical grocery items,
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and looking at the cheapest options on the shelves you can buy. they have found that there would have gone up by 17% in september, compared with the year before. that means there was basic, value, budget items in the grocery basket are going up faster than general inflation, goods and services in the economy, inflation generally running a 10%. but let me pick out some of the items they have highlighted that have gone up even more. vegetable oilfor have gone up even more. vegetable oil for cooking have gone up even more. vegetable oilfor cooking has gone up 65% in september, compared with the year before. the cheapest pasta you can get is up by an average of 60%. budget tea bags are a 46%. even milk has gone up 30%. it's really putting a squeeze on households and businesses. we can speak to barry, who is chatting to his customers. come and chat to us this morning. thanks for having us down here. tell us about the pressures you are facing as a business and what you're noticing the biggest cost squeezes are for you?—
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noticing the biggest cost squeezes are for you? across the board, you know, are for you? across the board, you know. energy _ are for you? across the board, you know, energy costs _ are for you? across the board, you know, energy costs have _ are for you? across the board, you know, energy costs have gone i are for you? across the board, you know, energy costs have gone up, | are for you? across the board, you i know, energy costs have gone up, we are definitely feeling the pinch that _ are definitely feeling the pinch that. with that, our suppliers are putting _ that. with that, our suppliers are putting up— that. with that, our suppliers are putting up their prices to cope, which _ putting up their prices to cope, which then affects us. we are also noticing _ which then affects us. we are also noticing that customers are starting to struggle now. like anybody, we are adapting and trying to do everything we can to make it good for people — everything we can to make it good for people. i'd knock out your local mp is_ for people. i'd knock out your local mp is now— for people. i'd knock out your local mp is now the prime minister, rishi sunak. _ mp is now the prime minister, rishi sunak, what would you like to see him do _ sunak, what would you like to see him do to— sunak, what would you like to see him do to help businesses like yours? — just understand how challenging covid _ just understand how challenging covid was, just see us through the next few— covid was, just see us through the next few months, into next year, and then trust— next few months, into next year, and then trust us, — next few months, into next year, and then trust us, small and medium—sized businesses, we will move _ medium—sized businesses, we will move the — medium—sized businesses, we will move the country forward. medium-sized businesses, we will move the country forward.- move the country forward. barry, thank ou move the country forward. barry, thank you very — move the country forward. barry, thank you very much. _ move the country forward. barry, thank you very much. another i move the country forward. barry, thank you very much. another of| move the country forward. barry, i thank you very much. another of the customers has his own business. steve, you run a coffee business. what are the big pressures? just businesses _ what are the big pressures? just businesses changing behaviours,
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where _ businesses changing behaviours, where business _ businesses changing behaviours, where business is _ businesses changing behaviours, where business is before - businesses changing behaviours, where business is before our- businesses changing behaviours, i where business is before our ready to go— where business is before our ready to go and _ where business is before our ready to go and invest _ where business is before our ready to go and invest in _ where business is before our ready to go and invest in new— where business is before our readyl to go and invest in new equipment, they are _ to go and invest in new equipment, they are just— to go and invest in new equipment, they are just pausing _ to go and invest in new equipment, they are just pausing and _ to go and invest in new equipment, they are just pausing and taking i they are just pausing and taking their— they are just pausing and taking their time, _ they are just pausing and taking theirtime, and— they are just pausing and taking theirtime, and reconsidering. they are just pausing and taking i their time, and reconsidering where they want_ their time, and reconsidering where they want to — their time, and reconsidering where they want to put _ their time, and reconsidering where they want to put their— their time, and reconsidering where they want to put their capital. - they want to put their capital. other— they want to put their capital. other things. _ they want to put their capital. other things, a _ they want to put their capital. other things, a few— they want to put their capital. other things, a few months. they want to put their capital. i other things, a few months ago, they want to put their capital. - other things, a few months ago, when the dollar_ other things, a few months ago, when the dollar crashed, _ other things, a few months ago, when the dollar crashed, buying _ other things, a few months ago, when the dollar crashed, buying dollars. - the dollar crashed, buying dollars. the pound — the dollar crashed, buying dollars. the pound crashed? _ the dollar crashed, buying dollars. the pound crashed? the— the dollar crashed, buying dollars. the pound crashed?— the dollar crashed, buying dollars. the pound crashed? the pound crashed auainst the pound crashed? the pound crashed a . ainst the the pound crashed? the pound crashed against the dollar, _ the pound crashed? the pound crashed against the dollar, that _ the pound crashed? the pound crashed against the dollar, that will _ the pound crashed? the pound crashed against the dollar, that will affect - against the dollar, that will affect us. against the dollar, that will affect us thankfully— against the dollar, that will affect us. thankfully it _ against the dollar, that will affect us. thankfully it has— against the dollar, that will affect us. thankfully it has come - against the dollar, that will affect us. thankfully it has come back. against the dollar, that will affectl us. thankfully it has come back up agaih _ us. thankfully it has come back up agaih those — us. thankfully it has come back up again. those are _ us. thankfully it has come back up again. those are the _ us. thankfully it has come back up again. those are the things - us. thankfully it has come back up again. those are the things where| again. those are the things where things— again. those are the things where things are — again. those are the things where things are a — again. those are the things where things are a bit _ again. those are the things where things are a bit unstable. - again. those are the things where things are a bit unstable. what. again. those are the things where i things are a bit unstable. what can rishi _ things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? _ things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? settle — things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? settle it— things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? settle it down, _ things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? settle it down, bring - things are a bit unstable. what can rishi do? settle it down, bring us. rishi do? settle it down, bring us together— rishi do? settle it down, bring us together and _ rishi do? settle it down, bring us together and let's _ rishi do? settle it down, bring us together and let's have _ rishi do? settle it down, bring us together and let's have a - rishi do? settle it down, bring us together and let's have a quiet. rishi do? settle it down, bring us. together and let's have a quiet few months _ together and let's have a quiet few months. . . ' . together and let's have a quiet few months. ., , , . ., months. that is the effect on businesses. _ months. that is the effect on businesses. i— months. that is the effect on businesses. i want _ months. that is the effect on businesses. i want to - months. that is the effect on businesses. i want to get - months. that is the effect on businesses. i want to get a i months. that is the effect on - businesses. i want to get a picture on how it is affecting people day to day, and households. we can speak to pete, who runs the food bank at richmond. the prime minister's own constituency, just give us a sense of the picture you experience as someone who runs that would ban? tote someone who runs that would ban? we are seeing a significant increase in the amount— are seeing a significant increase in the amount of people accessing food bank services. year—on—year, we are seeing _ bank services. year—on—year, we are seeing more — bank services. year—on—year, we are seeing more families, more individuals, especially people you would _ individuals, especially people you would have thought beforehand would
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not need _ would have thought beforehand would not need to access a food bank. they are beginning to come through our doors _ are beginning to come through our doors it's— are beginning to come through our doors. it's alarming, really, we are seeing _ doors. it's alarming, really, we are seeing so _ doors. it's alarming, really, we are seeing so much more need and so much more _ seeing so much more need and so much more unanticipated need, which is quite _ more unanticipated need, which is quite frightening. but we do our best _ quite frightening. but we do our best. . ~ quite frightening. but we do our best. ., ,, , ., quite frightening. but we do our best. ., ~' , ., , quite frightening. but we do our best. ., ,, , ., , . best. pete, thank you very much indeed. let's _ best. pete, thank you very much indeed. let'sjust _ best. pete, thank you very much indeed. let'sjust finish - best. pete, thank you very much indeed. let'sjust finish up - best. pete, thank you very much indeed. let'sjust finish up by . indeed. let'sjust finish up by showing you some of the sweet treats that they have on display here. isn't all of this just so unbelievably tempting? they have even got the halloween cupcakes ready. halloween is the same day we get the mud's tax—and—spend plan, i wonder if we rename these fiscal cupcakes? does that have a ring to it? ads, cupcakes? does that have a ring to it? �* , ., ., , cupcakes? does that have a ring to it? ~ , ., ., , , ., it? a tempting thought. i hope you en'o it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself. _ it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself, and _ it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself, and i _ it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself, and i hope - it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself, and i hope you - it? a tempting thought. i hope you enjoy yourself, and i hope you get | it? a tempting thought. i hope you | enjoy yourself, and i hope you get a pint eventually. you are right, it is a bit early, uk time, for that. but the sun is over the yard at some point in the world. it was the grass roots members of
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the conservative party that, in the end, rejected rishi sunak in favour of liz truss. they didn't get a say this time, because only one candidate put their name forward in the leadership contest. it was effectively no contest. so will they get behind the new prime minister? we are going to speak to three of them. with me now is chloe ahmed she has been a tory member since she was 18, and has been chair of chelmsford conservative association. and james dodsworth who is the policy and internal networks lead for the young conservatives network and i'm alsojoined by tamara, chloe, you have put out some scathing comments over the last few weeks about your party on social media. how are you feeling this morning? media. how are you feeling this mornin: ? �* media. how are you feeling this morninu? �* ., , _ ., media. how are you feeling this morninu? �* ., , morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the _ morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the lead, _ morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the lead, i _ morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the lead, i voted - morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the lead, i voted for - morning? i'm quite happy that rishi has taken the lead, i voted for him l has taken the lead, i voted for him in the summer. so i'm excited for what is going to happen now, making the party the best that we can make
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it. but we've got to pull together. the grassroots needs to be there as well. especially the mp5, there needs to be that unity. well. especially the mps, there needs to be that unity.- well. especially the mps, there needs to be that unity. what was the source of- -- — needs to be that unity. what was the source of... sorry _ needs to be that unity. what was the source of... sorry to _ needs to be that unity. what was the source of... sorry to interrupt, - source of... sorry to interrupt, what was the source of your dissatisfaction? i what was the source of your dissatisfaction?— what was the source of your dissatisfaction? i found it quite embarrassing, _ dissatisfaction? i found it quite embarrassing, what _ dissatisfaction? i found it quite embarrassing, what has - dissatisfaction? i found it quite embarrassing, what has gone l dissatisfaction? i found it quite l embarrassing, what has gone on lately. i don't think we should have had the last two months, it should not have happened. there has been a lot of rift between the party, if you look back, for me, i look back to 2016, with brexit, there hasjust been that continued rift. it's not just within the conservative party, it's within politics as a whole. but that doesn't seem to have healed. boris did get brexit through, but then we kind of went into the pandemic and, you know, life has been pretty chaotic, i'd say, since
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2016, politically. what it would be nice to see now is a lot of unity within the party, everyone working together, just to make everything better for everyone else, day—to—day, and to see those come to fruition and create some karma. that would be nice. fruition and create some karma. that would be nice-— would be nice. tamara, in telford, are ou would be nice. tamara, in telford, are you disappointed _ would be nice. tamara, in telford, are you disappointed not _ would be nice. tamara, in telford, are you disappointed not to - would be nice. tamara, in telford, are you disappointed not to have l would be nice. tamara, in telford, are you disappointed not to have a j are you disappointed not to have a say this time around? yes. say this time around? yes, disappointed, _ say this time around? yes, disappointed, and - say this time around? yes, disappointed, and many of| say this time around? yes, i disappointed, and many of my officers — disappointed, and many of my officers and a few of our members that have — officers and a few of our members that have reported back to us are quite _ that have reported back to us are quite angry that they haven't had a say. quite angry that they haven't had a say one _ quite angry that they haven't had a say one of— quite angry that they haven't had a say. one of the key reasons that people _ say. one of the key reasons that people get involved in politics is to be _ people get involved in politics is to be involved and have a say in who the leader— to be involved and have a say in who the leader is — to be involved and have a say in who the leader is— the leader is. james, let me talk to ou, from the leader is. james, let me talk to you. from the _ the leader is. james, let me talk to you, from the young _ the leader is. james, let me talk to you, from the young conservative i you, from the young conservative network, what is your take on this
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transition from truss to rishi sunak? it transition from truss to rishi sunak? ., ., ., , , ., sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss. _ sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss, which _ sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss, which i _ sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss, which i do _ sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss, which i do kind - sunak? it had to happen, i did vote for liz truss, which i do kind of - for liz truss, which i do kind of regret — for liz truss, which i do kind of regret we _ for liz truss, which i do kind of regret. we have _ for liz truss, which i do kind of regret. we have to _ for liz truss, which i do kind of regret. we have to move - for liz truss, which i do kind of. regret. we have to move towards for liz truss, which i do kind of- regret. we have to move towards a unity _ regret. we have to move towards a unity candidate _ regret. we have to move towards a unity candidate. i— regret. we have to move towards a unity candidate. i completely- regret. we have to move towards a unity candidate. i completely take i unity candidate. i completely take the point — unity candidate. i completely take the point may— unity candidate. i completely take the point n1ay be _ unity candidate. i completely take the point may be for— unity candidate. i completely take the point may be for that - unity candidate. i completely take the point may be for that one - unity candidate. i completely take the point may be for that one of. unity candidate. i completely take i the point may be for that one of the main _ the point may be for that one of the main reasons— the point may be for that one of the main reasons people _ the point may be for that one of the main reasons people join _ the point may be for that one of the main reasons people join political. main reasons people join political parties _ main reasons people join political parties is — main reasons people join political parties is to— main reasons people join political parties is to have _ main reasons people join political parties is to have a _ main reasons people join political parties is to have a say— main reasons people join political parties is to have a say in - main reasons people join political parties is to have a say in who- main reasons people join political. parties is to have a say in who runs thenr~ _ parties is to have a say in who runs then i_ parties is to have a say in who runs thenr~ ithink— parties is to have a say in who runs them. i think when _ parties is to have a say in who runs them. i think when you _ parties is to have a say in who runs them. i think when you are - parties is to have a say in who runs them. i think when you are in - parties is to have a say in who runs . them. i think when you are in power, in such— them. i think when you are in power, in sucha— them. i think when you are in power, in sucha to— them. i think when you are in power, in such a to much _ them. i think when you are in power, in such a to much was _ them. i think when you are in power, in such a to much was time, - them. i think when you are in power, in such a to much was time, changes| in such a to much was time, changes need _ in such a to much was time, changes need to— in such a to much was time, changes need to be _ in such a to much was time, changes need to be made _ in such a to much was time, changes need to be made very— in such a to much was time, changes need to be made very quickly. - need to be made very quickly. introducing _ need to be made very quickly. introducing the _ need to be made very quickly. introducing the person - need to be made very quickly. introducing the person who i need to be made very quickly. i introducing the person who had need to be made very quickly. - introducing the person who had by far and _ introducing the person who had by far and away— introducing the person who had by far and away the _ introducing the person who had by far and away the greatest - introducing the person who had by far and away the greatest amount| introducing the person who had by. far and away the greatest amount of support— far and away the greatest amount of support in— far and away the greatest amount of support in the — far and away the greatest amount of support in the parliamentary- far and away the greatest amount of support in the parliamentary party. support in the parliamentary party as leader. — support in the parliamentary party as leader. that— support in the parliamentary party as leader, that makes— support in the parliamentary party as leader, that makes a _ support in the parliamentary party as leader, that makes a lot - support in the parliamentary party as leader, that makes a lot of- as leader, that makes a lot of sense, — as leader, that makes a lot of sense, and _ as leader, that makes a lot of sense, and may— as leader, that makes a lot of sense, and may be _ as leader, that makes a lot of sense, and may be the - as leader, that makes a lot of- sense, and may be the conservative party— sense, and may be the conservative party should — sense, and may be the conservative party should tweak _ sense, and may be the conservative party should tweak its _ sense, and may be the conservative party should tweak its rules - sense, and may be the conservative party should tweak its rules as - sense, and may be the conservative party should tweak its rules as to i party should tweak its rules as to how we _ party should tweak its rules as to how we pick— party should tweak its rules as to how we pick leaders. _ party should tweak its rules as to how we pick leaders.— party should tweak its rules as to how we pick leaders. james, you are in durham. — how we pick leaders. james, you are in durham, durham _ how we pick leaders. james, you are in durham, durham city _ how we pick leaders. james, you are in durham, durham city has - how we pick leaders. james, you are in durham, durham city has long - how we pick leaders. james, you are i in durham, durham city has long been a labour seat. you had tony blair the former prime minister of the road in sedgefield for many years. the conservatives won sedgefield in
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2019 and a host of other seats around the north—east. how confident or nervous would you say conservatives are in your part of the country now? i conservatives are in your part of the country now?— conservatives are in your part of the country now? i should 'ust say that i am at — the country now? i should 'ust say that i am at durham h the country now? i should just say that i am at durham university, i. that i am at durham university, i don't live here full—time. but i think people are quite nervous. as many faults as borisjohnson did have, he was incredibly popular as a vote winner in the north—east of england, and we saw that in 2019. his personality, his charisma, where incredibly effective. i'm not sure rishi sunak is going to have quite the same impact. on the flip side of things, i think in the core voter areas, people talk of the blue wall quite a lot, i think you will be far more popular, it is those traditional voter tories, that is what they are looking for. how we balance the electoral split from 2019 remains to be seen. but it was going to be quite a large challenge, as we don't have the sort of two main things that drove them to us in
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2019, brexit and borisjohnson. tamara wood, you are in the english midlands, one of the most contested parts of the uk. shropshire is probably thought of as tory territory, but there are parts of some of the towns where they have had labour representation. how worried are you and your colleagues about all of this, not least for the point you have already made about motivating party members and party workers, after years in office, to fight another election, perhaps sometime in the next couple of years? sometime in the next couple of ears? ~ . ., sometime in the next couple of ears? ~ ., ., ., , years? we are going to find it very hard, particularly _ years? we are going to find it very hard, particularly in _ years? we are going to find it very hard, particularly in telford, - years? we are going to find it very hard, particularly in telford, which is more urban than any other parts of shropshire. up until our mp was elected in 2015, it had been a labour stronghold and was still a labour stronghold and was still a labour unitary council. i disagree with the previous points that when in power it should be the mp5 that choose. it's not the mp5 on the hole
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that, day—to—day, standing on the doorstep. it's like myself and members that have to defend. at the moment, i'm struggling, for the first time since i was 16, i have been a conservative voter, for the first time, i'm to defend my struggling party. first time, i'm to defend my struggling party-— first time, i'm to defend my stru~lin~ -a . ., ., , struggling party. you are struggling to defend the _ struggling party. you are struggling to defend the party, _ struggling party. you are struggling to defend the party, why? - struggling party. you are struggling to defend the party, why? what - struggling party. you are struggling to defend the party, why? what is i struggling party. you are struggling | to defend the party, why? what is it that has changed in policy terms? is it the mistakes that were made under liz truss's leadership, is it the perception of chaos, what is it you are struggling to defend? i’m are struggling to defend? i'm stru: aalin are struggling to defend? i'm struggling to _ are struggling to defend? i“n struggling to defend, first and foremost, the integrity issue with rishi and boris. that is when it started. the move away from the 2019 manifesto, that we were elected on, the rise in national insurance was a very big issue with our membership. that is when it started. and then
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now, in the leadership elections, it has been chaos. numerals were made up has been chaos. numerals were made up for the second election, and the membership have been excluded. we are lacking integrity, and the members are not happy at the moment. and the integrity question, are you then worried by what may come out of then worried by what may come out of the public inquiry into covid, and whether because rishi sunak was one of the key decision—makers during the course of that period, along with borisjohnson, that he might be politically vulnerable? yellow matter of course. and i do believe that his actions against boris show a lack of integrity, and he was rejected by the members only so many weeks ago. for me, i don't believe weeks ago. for me, i don't believe we have a unity candidate or a candidate with the 2019 manifesto at the heart of what they are going to deliver. unlike james comey don't
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regret the decision to elect liz truss? —— unlike james, you don't project? truss? -- unlike james, you don't ro'ect? ~ . . truss? -- unlike james, you don't ro'ect? ~ ., . _, , pro'ect? what i re'ect the comments of project? what i re'ect the comments ofthe project? what i re'ect the comments of the mps project? what i reject the comments of the mps blaming _ project? what i reject the comments of the mps blaming the _ project? what i reject the comments of the mps blaming the membershipj project? what i reject the comments i of the mps blaming the membership of of the mp5 blaming the membership of liz truss. we are given a choice of two, and the mp5 put those two in the final two. as you have already seen, the membership don't believe rishi was the leader. i do believe thatis rishi was the leader. i do believe that is around his policies, a lot of conventional conservatives are low tax, so they are going to struggle with his policies. they didn't give us the choice, doubt of the choices they gave us, we took the choices they gave us, we took the only choice we could take. let me rive the only choice we could take. let me give the last word to khloe, who we talked to at the start. you are part of essex, thought of as more safely tory, what is the mood in the south—east of england? n
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safely tory, what is the mood in the south-east of england?— south-east of england? i would say from people — south-east of england? i would say from people i— south-east of england? i would say from people i have _ south-east of england? i would say from people i have been _ south-east of england? i would say from people i have been speaking i south-east of england? i would say| from people i have been speaking to over the _ from people i have been speaking to over the last few days, everybody says that — over the last few days, everybody says that rishi has to show is what he can— says that rishi has to show is what he can do— says that rishi has to show is what he can do now, mps need to as well. we need _ he can do now, mps need to as well. we need to— he can do now, mps need to as well. we need to see that, as i said earlier, — we need to see that, as i said earlier, the unity coming together, and building a future of the uk that people _ and building a future of the uk that people can be proud of. notjust the conservatives, but throughout the country _ conservatives, but throughout the country. yes, it's a very tough time right— country. yes, it's a very tough time right now — country. yes, it's a very tough time right now. we need to be able to see that we've _ right now. we need to be able to see that we've got a stable government that we've got a stable government that is— that we've got a stable government that is going to, you know, fight to -ive that is going to, you know, fight to give us _ that is going to, you know, fight to give us the — that is going to, you know, fight to give us the lives they need to be living, _ give us the lives they need to be living, and — give us the lives they need to be living, and the energy crisis and everything — living, and the energy crisis and everything else is kind of creeping up everything else is kind of creeping up on _ everything else is kind of creeping up on us — everything else is kind of creeping up on us a — everything else is kind of creeping up on us. a lot of that has taken the back— up on us. a lot of that has taken the back bench the last couple of weeks _ the back bench the last couple of weeks. there needs to be more clarification of the help that is going — clarification of the help that is going to — clarification of the help that is going to be there, notjust for everybody at home, but those running businesses _ everybody at home, but those running businesses as well. where i am, there _ businesses as well. where i am, there are — businesses as well. where i am, there are a — businesses as well. where i am, there are a large number of small businesses. people don't know what
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is going _ businesses. people don't know what is going to _ businesses. people don't know what is going to happen. i think we need that continuity, unity, we need that strong _ that continuity, unity, we need that strong direction and that is what we are hoping — strong direction and that is what we are hoping that rishi is going to tiring _ are hoping that rishi is going to tiring for— are hoping that rishi is going to bring for us. are hoping that rishi is going to bring for us— are hoping that rishi is going to bring for us. chloe ahmed, from chelmsford _ bring for us. chloe ahmed, from chelmsford conservative, - bring for us. chloe ahmed, from chelmsford conservative, james | bring for us. chloe ahmed, from - chelmsford conservative, james from the young conservative network and tamara, thank you very much. you may have seen during the course of hearing from our guests some activity in downing street, they are setting up for the statement from the outgoing prime minister, liz truss, expected in about 30 minutes, just before she leaves downing street for the last time and travels to buckingham palace to surrender the seals of office, according to formality. i don't actually know if she hands over seals of office. there is physical paperwork that goes with the job, but i think it is transferred in a more convoluted
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way, ratherthan transferred in a more convoluted way, rather than on the day, in the hands of the king. the activity is because they are having to technically set up a sound desk to mix the sound from the microphone. i was corrected by nick earlier, when i said a podium, apparently it is a lectern, and he had to put up with the lectern from liz truss when he made his statement, and chances are that he will be using a lectern, while the people who design and build these things construct one thatis build these things construct one that is to his taste. so we will see him probably in front of the same lectern as liz truss users in half an hour in downing street. one of the big things on rishi sunak's in the big things on rishi sunak's in the tray is a free trade deal with india, something the borisjohnson championed enthusiastically. he was frustrated in his hope to go on a visit to india early in the year, and eventually met their end mod, the indian prime minister. it is
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diwali, and what a day it was yesterday to celebrate the arrival of the first hindi prime minister in british history, the first asian prime minister. and of course of indian origin, because it was his grandparents on both sides of the family who came to the uk half a century ago and made their lives here. and provided the basis on which he is now prime minister, the career, life and opportunities he has lived. let's speak to our correspondent in delhi. talk us terms of the possibility of a free trade deal between india and the united kingdom. bps trade deal between india and the united kingdom.— united kingdom. as you say, it's been talked _ united kingdom. as you say, it's been talked about _ united kingdom. as you say, it's been talked about for— united kingdom. as you say, it's been talked about for some - united kingdom. as you say, it's| been talked about for some time. united kingdom. as you say, it's i been talked about for some time. it was earlier this year that i was reporting from delhi on how boris johnson was in town, and how he and the indian prime minister, narendra modi, set a deadline of diwali to sign the free trade agreement.
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yesterday was diwali, there was no free trade agreement, it stalled. a lot of speculation swirling around, perhaps the comments from the former home secretary suella braverman, saying it was indians that overstayed their visas in the uk is the largest group, that might have impacted some of that chatter. also, all the turmoil in british politics will not have been ideal in terms of advancing the talks. there is a lot of hope from this side that actually, with the new prime minister about to be installed, some of those talks can get on track. one thing that was interesting, looking back at some comments rishi sunak has made in the past about indian and uk relations, one thing he talked about in the past is how he sees this as an equal partnership, and how he sees the value of highly educated, young indians being able to work overseas in the uk. of course, immigration, as you know, is one of those things that comes up on both sides of thrashing out talks over the india and uk trade deal. to
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what extent has progress been made on other aspects of this? is there a lot of interoperability between safety standards, quality standards come in terms of british products, indian services delhi cracker products, british services and indian services?— products, british services and indian services? these are things that fly around _ indian services? these are things that fly around when _ indian services? these are things that fly around when people - indian services? these are things that fly around when people talkl that fly around when people talk about the uk and india trade deal, they talk about whiskey, milk, health and safety standards, all of those kind of things. the real challenge now is getting things back on track. the hope, as you read prime minister narendra modi's statement yesterday, is that things will be back on track now. there is a new prime minister, and particularly with it being rishi sunak. narendra modi issued a tweet yesterday, congratulating rishi sunak and saying that he looked forward to working closely and implement in the road map, 2030,
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which is not actuallyjust about trade partnerships but also partnerships in other areas as well, education, for example, and other fields as well. it's about bringing the two countries together, and they talked about a living bridge. it's a phrase a lot of diplomats use. it's the idea that people do people contact is what brings these countries together. in many ways, as prime minister narendra modi said in a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. . .. a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. ., ,, , ., a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. ., ~' , ., , a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. ., ,, , . a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. . ,, , . ., a statement, rishi sunak embodies that. ., ,, , . ., ., that. thank you very much, for now. let's come — that. thank you very much, for now. let's come back _ that. thank you very much, for now. let's come back to _ that. thank you very much, for now. let's come back to the _ that. thank you very much, for now. let's come back to the political - let's come back to the political situation domestically and talked out a craig williams mp, a rishi sunak supporter. he also knows the reality of what it is to represent a marginal seat, a somewhat safe seat now. craig, you were originally elected from cardiff, a marginal seat, and you held that for a couple of years because the then prime minister theresa may was tempted into a snap general election, and paid the price by losing her majority, people like you with the
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casualties of that. presumably, you are not terribly keen for a general election right now, despite the change of prime minister? well, thanks for bringing _ change of prime minister? well, thanks for bringing that - change of prime minister? well, thanks for bringing that up! - change of prime minister? well, thanks for bringing that up! it i change of prime minister? all thanks for bringing that up! it was definitely an election we didn't want, and i still have the political scars from that. there is no appetite from me, but i can tell you from the 22 last night, which was electric when the prime minister electric when the prime minister elect walked in, there is no appetite anywhere. my constituents and businesses tell me they want us to unite, they want us to get on with thejob and to unite, they want us to get on with the job and sort out the big issues of the day, no election. you now represent _ issues of the day, no election. you now represent montgomeryshire, with a healthy majority, which i think, to your credit, went up in the 2019 election. to what extent do you feel that the success in 2019 was a boris effect, ratherthan that the success in 2019 was a boris effect, rather than necessarily a tory effect?— effect, rather than necessarily a to effect? ., , , tory effect? montgomeryshire, born and bred. tory effect? montgomeryshire, born and bred- so — tory effect? montgomeryshire, born and bred. so delighted _ tory effect? montgomeryshire, born and bred. so delighted to _ tory effect? montgomeryshire, born and bred. so delighted to represent| and bred. so delighted to represent that seat. boris is a terrific campaigner, world class. there is no doubt that in that election he
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brought his usual electric campaigning ability and what they massive benefit. at the next election, i have no doubt we will have boris the campaign machine by the conservative party and rishi sunak. so it is not or, it is and, we will unite and deploy the big beasts in the next general elections. beasts in the next general elections— beasts in the next general elections. ., elections. you say unite, we will wait and see _ elections. you say unite, we will wait and see on _ elections. you say unite, we will wait and see on that, _ elections. you say unite, we will wait and see on that, with - elections. you say unite, we will. wait and see on that, with respect, the jury is perhaps out, wait and see on that, with respect, thejury is perhaps out, given wait and see on that, with respect, the jury is perhaps out, given the events of the last few months. let's talk about cabinet. there is clearly an expectation that there will be some rishi sunak appointees in the cabinet, and perhaps an attempt to overcome criticism of liz truss's cabinet, too much a cabinet of mates, people that thought the same. how important is it that it is broader—based this time around? tater? broader-based this time around? very im ortant. broader—based this time around? , important. knowing the man, knowing our new prime minister, it will not be about egos, it will be about uniting, and i think we can push back on that. it will be about
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getting the right players around the table and having proper cabinet responsibility, adults in the room. not that there haven't been. adults in the room, getting on, governing, and having tough decisions. let in the room, getting on, governing, and having tough decisions.- and having tough decisions. let me ask ou and having tough decisions. let me ask you one — and having tough decisions. let me ask you one direct _ and having tough decisions. let me ask you one direct question - and having tough decisions. let me ask you one direct question on - and having tough decisions. let me| ask you one direct question on that, would it help you in campaigning terms, for example, to have a welsh secretary that represented a welsh constituency, rather than an english one? ~' .,, constituency, rather than an english one? ~' ~' constituency, rather than an english one? ,, ~' ., constituency, rather than an english one? ~ ,, ., .,., , one? think those kind of decisions, scotland, wales, _ one? think those kind of decisions, scotland, wales, the _ one? think those kind of decisions, scotland, wales, the devolved - scotland, wales, the devolved administrations are incredibly important, the relationship with them, and also having people who can't speak and campaign day in, day out. i will be asking for that, certainly. out. i will be asking for that, certainly-— out. i will be asking for that, certainl. ., . ., , ~ certainly. craig williams, mp4 montgomeryshire, _ certainly. craig williams, mp4 montgomeryshire, thank- certainly. craig williams, mp4 montgomeryshire, thank you i certainly. craig williams, mp4 l montgomeryshire, thank you for joining us. a rishi sunak supporter there. let's talk about the challenge he faces electorally. there is not going to be a general election, in spite of the fact that the snp, labourand election, in spite of the fact that the snp, labour and the liberal democrats, the snp, the second largest political party at westminster, are clamouring for one.
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research from yougov, sorry, ipsos mori, forgive me, what are the polls are saying? what is the trend? it is are saying? what is the trend? it is hard to are saying? what is the trend? it 3 hard to underestimate what a difficult spot the conservatives are in. our most recent political monitor had the labour party 21 points ahead. more importantly than the actual voting intention in polling, and the spread of that between 20 points or 30 points lead for labour, some of the fundamentals under the bonnet, so to speak. there are too many issues i would raise. first, 64% of the public consider the conservative party to be divided. that is almost twice as many that say the same about labour. a major challenge for the new prime minister, rishi sunak, will be to quell that feeling amongst the public in the future. secondly, three quarters of the public do not
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have confidence in the conservative party's long—term economic plan for the country. and labour are actually the country. and labour are actually the party most trusted on the economy by a 13 point margin, 34 points to 21. lots of numbers there, but fundamentally, what rishi sunak needs to do is show that he can build a united team, united government, but also he needs to try to restore the conservative's traditional reputation for being the best party on the economy. of course, he was, once upon a time, a quite popular chancellor, at least during the height of the pandemic. time will tell whether he can restore that reputation in the future. . . restore that reputation in the future. , ., ., , , ., restore that reputation in the future. , ., ., , future. yes, that raises a really interesting _ future. yes, that raises a really interesting question, _ future. yes, that raises a really interesting question, because i future. yes, that raises a really i interesting question, because one future. yes, that raises a really - interesting question, because one of the things that you want your organisation also regularly ask public opinion on in the uk is the issues that most concern them. is it still the economy that tops the bill? are there any others which remain off concern? we have heard about immigration. is that still an issue for british voters? for
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voters, there _ issue for british voters? for voters, there is _ issue for british voters? for voters, there is a _ issue for british voters? fr?" voters, there is a range of issues that matter to them. the cost of living is top of people's mines, and the economy generally. immigration is neverfar away, the economy generally. immigration is never far away, particularly the economy generally. immigration is neverfar away, particularly for 2019 conservative voters. rishi sunak wants to reinstall that coalition from 2019. it might be an area he looks at. another area that i think it's more important than immigration is the state of public services. schools, and in particular hospitals. realstrong services. schools, and in particular hospitals. real strong concerns amongst the public about waiting times in the nhs, time to get a gp appointment or emergency care. and parents are concerned about schools and education, and the back of post covid as well. in a nutshell, what the prime minister will need to do is balance the economic management, restoring trust in the conservatives on the economy, whilst also reassuring the public that they can actually provide public services with the funding that they need. because that is a real strong public
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concern at the moment.— because that is a real strong public concern at the moment. ciaran from its isos, concern at the moment. ciaran from its lpsos. in — concern at the moment. ciaran from its lpsos. in a _ concern at the moment. ciaran from its ipsos, in a few— concern at the moment. ciaran from its ipsos, in a few moments - concern at the moment. ciaran from its ipsos, in a few moments we - concern at the moment. ciaran from its ipsos, in a few moments we will| its ipsos, in a few moments we will bejoining huw edwards its ipsos, in a few moments we will be joining huw edwards for live coverage of events at downing street. i would like to pay tribute to liz truss for her dedicated public service to the country. she has led with dignity and grace for a time of great change and under exceptionally difficult circumstances, both at home and abroad. i am humbled and honoured to have the support of my parliamentary colleagues, and to be elected as leader of the conservative and unionist party. it is the greatest privilege of my life to be able to serve the party i love, and to give back to the country i owe so much too. the united kingdom is a great country. but there is no doubt we face
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a profound economic challenge. we now need stability and unity. and i will make it my utmost priority to bring our party and our country together. because that's the only way we will overcome the challenges we face and build a better, more prosperous future for our children and our grandchildren. i pledge that i will serve you with integrity and humility. and i will work day in, day out, to deliverfor the british people.
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welcome to downing street on the day the united kingdom gets its third prime minister in seven weeks. should it be welcome back once again to downing street on the day the united kingdom gets its third prime minister in the space ofjust seven weeks. in about an hour and a half, rishi sunak will be driven through the gates and take office here, becoming the first british asian — and the first person of colour — to take the highest political office in the land. we'll bring you all the events of the morning live here on bbc one, and look at the enormous challenges mr sunak will face, with the help of our correspondents here in westminster, as well as round and beyond the uk.
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