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welcome to downing street on the day the united kingdom gets its third prime minister in seven weeks. should it be welcome back once again to downing street on the day the united kingdom gets its third prime minister in the space ofjust seven weeks. in about an hour and a half, rishi sunak will be driven through the gates and take office here, becoming the first british asian — and the first person of colour — to take the highest political office in the land. we'll bring you all the events of the morning live here on bbc one, and look at the enormous challenges mr sunak will face, with the help of our correspondents here in westminster, as well as round and beyond the uk.
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let's take you through what today will look like. the current prime minister, liz truss, held her fourth and final cabinet meeting starting about an hour ago. she is due to make a statement outside number 10 at around 10:15, before travelling to buckingham palace for an audience with king charles. after this, rishi sunak will head to the palace, where he'll be invited to form a government. then it's back to downing street, and the new prime minister will address the nation at around 11:35. and over the next 2a hours, we can expect to see a trickle of cabinet appointments which will start to shape what rishi sunak�*s government will look like. of course, not just
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of course, notjust appointments, but the message too. what is the message is likely to be when he appears at the podium which is just being put up behind us? first of all four at liz truss, then for a rishi sunak later on. keeping us company throughout the morning as we follow these events is nick eardley, our chief political correspondent. the podium is up. liz truss, let's talk about the fact this is her fourth and final cabinet. will that be just and final cabinet. will that be just a matter of saying goodbye to people and thank you? will there be any real business transacted? i and thank you? will there be any real business transacted? i would not have thought _ real business transacted? i would not have thought so. _ real business transacted? i would not have thought so. seven - real business transacted? i would | not have thought so. seven weeks real business transacted? i would . not have thought so. seven weeks to the day since we last stood here and watch liz truss arrive, she is basically ending in failure. the last seven weeks have been nothing like sheet planned. normally what happens is a prime minister comes out and tells us what they think their achievements were and tries to start to draw a clear picture of
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their own legacy. it is going to be very hard for liz truss to do that. she might talk about national insurance, the fact they reversed the rise. she might talk about energy costs and the fact a cap was put on the price. but let's face it, the big things that liz truss wanted to do seven weeks ago, growing the economy, bringing tax down, rewriting the economic rule book, they have not worked and this premiership is ending in failure. i5 premiership is ending in failure. is there any element of sympathy on a personal level for her to there is lots of anger, given that people say she put in place policies that caused turmoil for the country, let alone the interest of the conservative party. is there any sympathy on a personal level for what he has gone through? yes. sympathy on a personal level for what he has gone through? yes, i think there _ what he has gone through? yes, i think there is. _ what he has gone through? yes, i think there is. some _ what he has gone through? yes, i think there is. some politicians i think there is. some politicians would talk about the human toll that this sort of thing takes. but i think all of that is inevitably overshadowed by the political
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legacy, which is one that makes the economic backdrop today even more bleak than it was seven weeks ago. it makes the job her successor is going to have to do, when rishi sunak gets into number 10 this afternoon, it will make thatjob even harder. afternoon, it will make that 'ob even harder.�* afternoon, it will make that 'ob even harder. ~ , ., , ., , afternoon, it will make that 'ob even harder. ~ , ., , even harder. when she leaves, as you sa , we even harder. when she leaves, as you say. we will — even harder. when she leaves, as you say. we will see _ even harder. when she leaves, as you say, we will see what _ even harder. when she leaves, as you say, we will see what the _ even harder. when she leaves, as you say, we will see what the message . say, we will see what the message is, she will then go and see the king at buckingham palace. there will be a final audience as prime minister. there was that rather odd moment in previous audience when the king greeted liz truss and said, very audibly, oh, dear, oh, dear, words to that effect. a sense that he also knew that she was in a spot of bother? ., , of bother? one of the things we were told about that _ of bother? one of the things we were told about that is _ of bother? one of the things we were told about that is it _ of bother? one of the things we were told about that is it was _ of bother? one of the things we were told about that is it was something i told about that is it was something of a verbal tick. the palace was conscious that it did not want to be seen interfering in politics so early. it is strange because when we
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stood here seven weeks ago, we saw the final transition of power that her majesty the queen oversaw. well, the king has only been in charge, the king has only been in charge, the head of state, for six weeks now. and already he is going to have his second prime minister, quite a moment for him as well. for liz truss, she has spent her whole political career thinking that there was a different way you could run the economy, a different way you could run power. this afternoon, the people who agreed with her, who thought she was onto something, who believed in her political vision, would accept it has ended badly and they will warrant they have lost the argument for a generation. viewers have seen the _ argument for a generation. viewers have seen the images _ argument for a generation. viewers have seen the images from - argument for a generation. viewers | have seen the images from downing street as we are talking, reflecting the fact there is interest among the media notjust in the uk, but worldwide too. lots of talk overnight in terms of the international reaction to rishi
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sunak�*s election. we were talking to some colleagues in the us about the joe biden administration. and we were talking to our correspondent in delhi about the reaction there, given the heritage that rishi sunak and his family represents. we should underline once again today that this is not any old transition. this is a transition actually that signifies something of a major milestone in british politics? it something of a ma'or milestone in british politics?— british politics? it does indeed, because the _ british politics? it does indeed, because the third _ british politics? it does indeed, because the third female - british politics? it does indeed, because the third female prime j because the third female prime minister is being replaced by the uk's first non—white prime minister, the youngest prime minister for a couple of centuries. rishi sunak is only 42 years old. he has only been in parliament for seven years. it is a big moment. whether it changes the political weather, let's wait and see. his economic vision is very different. how he engages with europe, with the united states, with
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former commonwealth countries, will be very interesting to see because he shares a lot of the brexit supporting ideology that liz truss had. i don't think he will want to be seen by his own party to be too close to the european union, so that might not change dramatically. but yes, certainly in terms of his connections to india, it is a significant milestone. their prime minister very encouraged to see mr sunak taking the reins of power. we are going to pause there for a second because we have been talking about the fact they will be two journeys to the palace today. we will be looking at liz truss making herjourney will be looking at liz truss making her journey to will be looking at liz truss making herjourney to buckingham palace. then rishi sunak later, when he is invited by the king to form a government. 0ur royal correspondent nicholas witchell is at buckingham palace to talk us through the events we are expecting there.
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nick... good morning. seven weeks to the day since we last saw this process playing out on tuesday, the 6th of september. 0n process playing out on tuesday, the 6th of september. on that occasion it was at balmoral because of the frailty of the late queen elizabeth, when she, in her last formal duty, received the resignation of boris johnson and invited liz truss to form a government. this morning the choreography will be repeated, as you have been describing, rather more straightforward in logistical terms given that it will take place here at buckingham palace, which at the moment is enjoying this rather beautiful autumn sunshine here in london. at half past ten, liz truss will tender her resignation here at buckingham palace to king charles, the first time he has presided over this important function of the british monarch. then, at about 11 o'clock, rishi sunak will be making
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his way to buckingham palace. he will have a private audience with the king. he will not we think, be accompanied by his wife, but the king will invite rishi sunak to form a government. it is the last one of the last prerogative powers of the monarch. i think we may be seeing the king moving up from clarence house. yes, the king moving from clarence house, where he still resides, to buckingham palace. i imagine it must be him. yes, it looks like the vehicle in which king charles travels. let me just move out of the way and we can see the king arriving at buckingham palace in preparation for the audience which will take place later this morning. and as i was saying, it will be at about 11 o'clock that rishi sunak will arrive at buckingham palace and will be shown into the audience room. and the king will invite him to form a
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government. just to remind you of the criteria that applies in situations such as this. the british prime minister is somebody that must have the confidence of the house of commons. the british prime minister would, by convention, be the leader of the largest party in the house of commons. and although the outgoing prime minister, in this case liz truss, will offer advice to the king as to who he should call to form a new government, it is an area that is known as the royal at it, and in theory, the monarch can choose whoever he or she wishes to form a government, but by convention it would be this person who can command the confidence of the house of commons. that is what will happen here at around 11 o'clock. rishi sunak will be invited to form a government. it is only at that moment, of course, that he becomes prime minister of the united kingdom. at that moment he will then return to number 10, which will
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become his home, and he will make the statement in front of the door, as you will witness where you are. nick witchell, our royal correspondent at buckingham palace. good timing to see his majesty arriving at the palace ready for the two audiences that will be held today, making his way from clarence house to buckingham palace, first of all for liz truss, who will appear here within a few minutes, and later for rishi sunak. let's look at the door of number 11 downing st. there you will see the gathering of staff, including the deputy prime minister, therese coffey. there you can see the crowd. they come out in readiness for the prime minister's outgoing statement. then of course we will have a group of people coming along to support rishi sunak as he is installed as prime
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minister. as soon as liz truss is out in downing street, we will be taking that. nick eardley is still here. b. taking that. nick eardley is still here. �* ., ., ., , , here. a traditional site? it is. very different _ here. a traditional site? it is. very different to _ here. a traditional site? it is. very different to what - here. a traditional site? it is. very different to what we - here. a traditional site? it is. very different to what we had here. a traditional site? it is. i very different to what we had a here. a traditional site? it is. - very different to what we had a few weeks ago when liz truss arrived and the street was packed with her supporters, packed with mps, packed with ministers who would support her in power. a sign, i think, of the fact the political mood has changed so dramatically. i can't see just out of the bottom of the screen, jacob rees—mogg. 0utside out of the bottom of the screen, jacob rees—mogg. outside the door of number 11, jacob rees—mogg. outside the door of number11, no jacob rees—mogg. outside the door of number 11, no politician apart from therese coffey, one of liz truss's most loyal allies. the political weather changes quickly. it certainly does. looking at therese coffey there with the staff who were with her, if you go back a few
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weeks, did they ever imagine in their worst nightmares they would be on their way out? barely six, seven weeks later, you do wonder with all the young advisers with them, all of whom came in with a sense of excitement and ambition, and this is where we are?— where we are? they all thought this was the moment. _ where we are? they all thought this was the moment. they _ where we are? they all thought this was the moment. they thought - where we are? they all thought this| was the moment. they thought they could change the political and the economic weather with some dramatic tax cuts, some dramatic changes of economic orthodoxy. and they believed it would be the start of a new economic era. that is exactly what liz truss promised. instead, the fact those tax cuts were underfunded, the fact that the economic market reaction was so dramatic, it has all ended in tears, it has all ended in failure. and we are about to see, addressing the nation for the last time, the shortest serving british prime minister in history. it's remarkable to think it has only been seven
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weeks that all this has happened in. but it has been the most dramatic fall from grace in british political history. fall from grace in british political histo . ., , ., ., , ., history. the final preparations have been made- — history. the final preparations have been made. we _ history. the final preparations have been made. we can _ history. the final preparations have been made. we can see _ history. the final preparations have been made. we can see the - history. the final preparations have l been made. we can see the prepared remarks have been put on the podium on the left and ready for liz truss to appear. the team is outside number 11 downing st. there will be hundreds of mps watching. thousands of conservative members watching. millions of voters watching. the change today is notjust about the kind of political battle internally for the tory party. decisions will be made in the next few days and weeks, which will affect the livelihoods of millions of people around the country who are concerned about rising fuel bills, who are concerned about the cost of living. so much as this is a kind of political battle here, it resonates very strongly across the uk?
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it's hard to underestimate the level of challenge rishi sunak will face. the economic turbulence. he has to hit the ground running, and as a former chancellor, he will understand as a former chancellor how it means to make quick decision. it is six days' time that we expect to hear a form of budget from the current chancellor, jeremy hunt, we are not certain if he will stay in hisjob and there are not certain if he will stay in his job and there is a good are not certain if he will stay in hisjob and there is a good chance of that, in terms of stability, keeping mr hunt in thejob. but the new government has to decide extremely quickly what spending cuts it's prepared to make, what constraints on the public purse it will countenance and what tax rises might be coming. seven weeks ago liz truss stood at that very lectern and told us all the big tax cuts were
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coming. that was the conservative plan to boost economic growth. what we are about to see in the next few daysis we are about to see in the next few days is the exact opposite. the economic backdrop has changed and mr sunak will have to agree to spending cuts and tax rises.— cuts and tax rises. everything in downin: cuts and tax rises. everything in downing street, _ cuts and tax rises. everything in downing street, all _ cuts and tax rises. everything in downing street, all eyes - cuts and tax rises. everything in downing street, all eyes fixed l cuts and tax rises. everything in. downing street, all eyes fixed on the door of number 10 downing street, waiting for the conclusion of the cabinet meeting and i suspect it is over now and i suspect what is happening is that liz truss is thanking officials, those officials who have been at her side for the last few weeks. some senior civil servants including the cabinet secretary, who have been trying to guide government policy during a period of crisis. the door is opening, and liz truss emerges with her husband and daughters for the last time, as prime minister. it has
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been a huge _ last time, as prime minister. it has been a huge honour— last time, as prime minister. it has been a huge honour to _ last time, as prime minister. it has been a huge honour to be - last time, as prime minister. it has been a huge honour to be prime i been a huge honour to be prime minister of this great country. in particular, to lead the nation in mourning the death of her late majesty the queen after 70 years of service. and welcoming the accession of his majesty, king charles iii. in just a short period, this government has acted urgently and decisively on the side of hard—working families and businesses. we reversed at the national insurance increase. we helped millions of households with their energy bills and helped thousands of businesses avoid bankruptcy. we are taking back our energy independence, so we are never again beholden to global market fluctuations or relying on foreign powers. from my time as prime minister, i am powers. from my time as prime minister, iam more powers. from my time as prime minister, i am more convinced than ever that we need to be bold and
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confront the challenges that we face. as the roman philosopher seneca wrote, it's not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it's because we do not doubt that they are .we simply . we simply cannot afford to be a low growth country where the government takes up an increasing share of our national wealth and where there are huge divides between different parts of our country. we need to take advantage of our brexit freedoms to do things differently. this means delivering more freedom for our own citizens and restoring power to democratic institutions. it means lower taxes, so people can keep more of the money that they earn. and it means delivering growth that will lead to more job security, higher wages and greater opportunities for our children and grandchildren. democracies must be
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able to deliverfor their grandchildren. democracies must be able to deliver for their own people. we must be able to outcompete autocratic regimes where power lies in the hands of a view. and now, more than ever, we must support ukraine in their brave fight against putin's aggression. ukraine must prevail. and we must continue to strengthen our nation's defences. that is what i've been striving to achieve, and i wish rishi sunak every success, for the good of our country. i want to thank hugh, francis, liberty, my family and friends and all of the team at number ten for their love, friendship and support. i also want to thank my protection team. i look forward to spending more time in my constituency and continuing to serve southwest norfolk from the backbenches. 0ur southwest norfolk from the backbenches. our country continues to battle through storm. but i
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believe in britain. i believe in the british people. and i know that brighter days lie ahead. thank you. the prime minister, liz truss, in herfinal the prime minister, liz truss, in her final statement the prime minister, liz truss, in herfinal statement in the prime minister, liz truss, in her final statement in office, as first lord of the treasury leaving with her husband hugh, and her two daughters, and a statement that tried to combine and acknowledging what she felt were the limited achievements and then an expression of regret as well for what had not been possible. trying to make the best of what everybody would agree is, from her point of view is a disappointing job, and for what others would see as a real failure. what did you make of the tone of that and the contact? —— content? than
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that and the contact? —— content? in attempt to put a positive spin on what happened in the last few weeks with liz truss talking about the action the government took on energy bills ahead of winter, that it did take on reversing the national insurance increase and interesting that liz truss did still talk about believing in a low tax economy, something she wanted to deliver, but the way she did it caused economic turmoil, didn't it? and interesting towards the end, pledging to stay on as a backbench mp and to support the new prime ministerfrom as a backbench mp and to support the new prime minister from the backbenches in the house of commons. that will mean we have both liz truss, borisjohnson and theresa may still in the commons and i think thatis still in the commons and i think that is the first time ever that we have had three former prime ministers still serving in the commons. i ministers still serving in the common— ministers still serving in the commons. ~ ., , , , commons. i think that is probably riuht. you commons. i think that is probably right. you would _ commons. i think that is probably right. you would have _ commons. i think that is probably right. you would have to - commons. i think that is probably right. you would have to go backl commons. i think that is probably l right. you would have to go back in the history books. i can't think of an time when there would be three former prime ministers, two of them,
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certainly, but not free. these are the scenes above whitehall in central london. the sun is out and it's a much nicer day than it was when it started earlier, when we arrived it was rather wet and the sun is out and the prime ministerial cavalcade is on its way up whitehall, switching lanes and everything has been cleared in terms of access towards probably towards trafalgar square, we think. and then “p trafalgar square, we think. and then up to trafalgar square to turn left down the mall and along to buckingham palace. a grand processional route which is very familiar to those of you who follow all of the big state . there we are, lord nelson surveying the scene from nelson's column and trafalgar square bathed in lovely sunshine, through admiralty arch, and then down along the mall, admiralty arch which was
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one of the important parts of the government's own property portfolio in central london but was sold a few years ago and has been redeveloped. along the mall, which is still looking rather green in october, and along past the flank of saintjames park on the left—hand side. and then the clive steps on the right—hand side, all the way down, and past clarence house, where the king and queen consort, where they were staying last night and they have just made their way to buckingham palace for the two audiences and they came back to london especially for this purpose and the king therefore is waiting in buckingham palace to give an audience, a final audience to prime minister truss, and i'm sure they will meet again in different context, and a final
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meeting, maybe they will reflect on the last few weeks are the difficulties they have already been discussing in their previous three —— previous three audiences. and then there will be a gap of a few minutes. it's all done rather efficiently. it will be like clockwork, and then we will see rishi sunak taken to the palace almost immediately, where he will be having an audience with the king and will be invited by the king to form the new government following his election as leader of the conservative party, so it will happen very quickly and it's only when that audience takes place and the king and rishi sunak shake hands that rishi sunak will formally become prime minister and first lord of the treasury, that is the moment it happens. and that is the reason why lots of heads of states around the world have not put out a formal statement to congratulate mr sunak
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because they are waiting for the audience to take place. in strict terms of protocol, they are waiting for him to become formally named as pro—minister. there they go, into the famous quadrangle inside buckingham palace. 0ver the famous quadrangle inside buckingham palace. over to the visitors entrance where they will be escorted to the first floor to meet the king, and the bbc�*s political editor, chris mason is watching these images. we werejust underlining earlier that we think what is happening today, the shortest serving prime minister in british history going in to resign, the first prime minister of british asian origin, the youngest in 200 years. it is a day of many milestones. it years. it is a day of many milestones.— years. it is a day of many milestones. , ., ., ., , milestones. it is, a day of many precedents _ milestones. it is, a day of many precedents and _ milestones. it is, a day of many precedents and milestones i milestones. it is, a day of many precedents and milestones and | milestones. it is, a day of many i precedents and milestones and yet such has been the turbulence in british politics on an unprecedented scale, that there is a familiarity to this constitutional choreography we are witnessing as the prime
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minister, for she is still that, for the next couple of moments, liz truss arriving at buckingham palace for this audience with his majesty and her husband following as well. worth sparing a personal thought, regardless of your politics, for liz truss. reachingjust regardless of your politics, for liz truss. reaching just seven weeks ago the ultimate pinnacle of british politics, achieving an ambition that so many in this postcode aspire to i had so many do not achieve, she managed that and yet, so quickly, with such efficiency and ruthlessness on the part of her backbenchers, she has been dispatched, the conclusion from her party that her programme for government was untenable. and as you say, a new prime minister in the next half hour or so as rishi sunak comes in for his audience and so many unprecedented moments or moments you have to go a long way back to find a precedent for with his arrival. firstly his age, the
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youngest prime minister since lord liverpool in 1812, the first prime minister of british asian origin, and then he confronts you with a colossal intro. we were saying seven weeks ago about liz truss, but he faces all of those challenges on top of the huge challenges as a result of the huge challenges as a result of what has happened in the last seven weeks, bluntly that people are having to pay more for their mortgages, the fact people are less comfortable with the idea that government can be stable and in their interest and that's the first thing he has to convince people when he addresses people injust thing he has to convince people when he addresses people in just over an hour's time. b, he addresses people in 'ust over an new time.— he addresses people in 'ust over an hour's time. a few people gathering at the gates — hour's time. a few people gathering at the gates of— hour's time. a few people gathering at the gates of the _ hour's time. a few people gathering at the gates of the palace _ hour's time. a few people gathering at the gates of the palace because l at the gates of the palace because they are aware of what is going on today, so especially for those people who are tourists visiting london they have something important to be witnesses, which is above and beyond possibly what they were expecting when they arrived, so getting extra value for money. but
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while we chat and look at the images, i will bring in the conservative mp alessia kearns. thanks for waiting to talk to us. what is your reading of what is happening today? i what is your reading of what is happening today?— happening today? i think it is important — happening today? i think it is important we _ happening today? i think it is important we admire - happening today? i think it is important we admire those i happening today? i think it is i important we admire those who happening today? i think it is - important we admire those who step forward _ important we admire those who step forward for— important we admire those who step forward for public service and we .ive forward for public service and we give li2— forward for public service and we give liz truss our thanks. she brought— give liz truss our thanks. she brought in— give liz truss our thanks. she brought in magnificent support to help people with energy bills and help people with energy bills and help businesses get through and she has started the process towards moving — has started the process towards moving towards energy resilience and now we _ moving towards energy resilience and now we need to look forward on what the country _ now we need to look forward on what the country wants to see when they are scared — the country wants to see when they are scared at a time of global instability is fiscal responsibility, pragmatism and compassion and i do believe that is what we _ compassion and i do believe that is what we will see with rishi sunak. interesting talking to a few of your colleagues recently, literally in the last few days, one saying to me that you have to have sympathy with liz truss because what she has been through is a very difficult experience and another of your colleagues saying i have no sympathy
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at all. she made an absolute hash of things and really did increase problems for people up and down the country. where do you stand? i think an one country. where do you stand? i think anyone and — country. where do you stand? i think anyone and everyone _ country. where do you stand? i think anyone and everyone feels _ country. where do you stand? i think anyone and everyone feels for i country. where do you stand? i think anyone and everyone feels for liz i anyone and everyone feels for liz truss _ anyone and everyone feels for liz truss all— anyone and everyone feels for liz truss. all of us recognise she has had an— truss. all of us recognise she has had an enormously difficult time but ithink— had an enormously difficult time but i think the _ had an enormously difficult time but i think the challenge was she came forward _ i think the challenge was she came forward wanting to bring in a bold agenda _ forward wanting to bring in a bold agenda but the fact is, as i mentioned, at a time of global insecurity— mentioned, at a time of global insecurity people didn't want to see free—market dogmatism, the markets were prepared already, the markets are not— were prepared already, the markets are not woke or leftist, this was known _ are not woke or leftist, this was known for— are not woke or leftist, this was known for expressing genuine concern about— known for expressing genuine concern about the _ known for expressing genuine concern about the model put forward on the £130 billion in tax cuts that weren't_ £130 billion in tax cuts that weren't funded, so that's what we want _ weren't funded, so that's what we want to— weren't funded, so that's what we want to see — weren't funded, so that's what we want to see a shift away from and we want to see a shift away from and we want to— want to see a shift away from and we want to see _ want to see a shift away from and we want to see fiscal responsibility, pragmatism, compassion, and i think the unity— pragmatism, compassion, and i think the unity of— pragmatism, compassion, and i think the unity of the conservative benches _ the unity of the conservative benches over the last, i've lost track, — benches over the last, i've lost track, 12. — benches over the last, i've lost track, 12, 20 hours is really strongly— track, 12, 20 hours is really strongly felt. thank you for talking to us. we will see what transpires when mr sunak
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arrives later. conservative mp, alessia kearns, the chair of the foreign affairs select committee. there we are, the glorious scene of green park over buckingham palace. the gardens of buckingham palace on the left—hand side, which her late majesty used to love walking around. a nicholas witchell, our royal correspondent, is there. the cars have gone in. what is going to be happening now?— have gone in. what is going to be happening now? well, the audience will be taking _ happening now? well, the audience will be taking place _ happening now? well, the audience will be taking place in _ happening now? well, the audience will be taking place in the _ happening now? well, the audience will be taking place in the 1844 i will be taking place in the 1844 room — will be taking place in the 1844 room li2— will be taking place in the 1844 room. liz truss went in at 10:25am, a few— room. liz truss went in at 10:25am, a few seconds — room. liz truss went in at 10:25am, a few seconds after that. we won't know _ a few seconds after that. we won't know when — a few seconds after that. we won't know when she leaves because by tradition— know when she leaves because by tradition and outgoing prime minister— tradition and outgoing prime minister leaves privately. she will therefore — minister leaves privately. she will therefore leave by a private exit from _ therefore leave by a private exit from buckingham palace. but generally these audiences take about 15, 20 _ generally these audiences take about 15,20 minutes. generally these audiences take about 15, 20 minutes. the first part of that— 15, 20 minutes. the first part of that will— 15, 20 minutes. the first part of that will be _ 15, 20 minutes. the first part of that will be entirely private. when, as prime _ that will be entirely private. when, as prime minister, she offers her
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advice _ as prime minister, she offers her advice as— as prime minister, she offers her advice as to _ as prime minister, she offers her advice as to who the king should call in _ advice as to who the king should call in to— advice as to who the king should call in to form a new government, and then— call in to form a new government, and then tendered her resignation. after— and then tendered her resignation. after that, — and then tendered her resignation. after that, as we saw, her husband was with— after that, as we saw, her husband was with her. and there two daughters also accompanied them to the palace. normally the family would _ the palace. normally the family would then have a few moments with the monarch, in this case king charles, — the monarch, in this case king charles, before it would then be time _ charles, before it would then be time for— charles, before it would then be time for them to depart. and the careful— time for them to depart. and the careful choreography, the police, the special escort group, will then bring _ the special escort group, will then bring the — the special escort group, will then bring the new prime minister, rishi sunak. _ bring the new prime minister, rishi sunak. to _ bring the new prime minister, rishi sunak, to buckingham palace. i remember— sunak, to buckingham palace. i remember not too many years ago when theresa _ remember not too many years ago when theresa mav— remember not too many years ago when theresa may was arriving to take over _ theresa may was arriving to take over from — theresa may was arriving to take over from david cameron, the two motorcades— over from david cameron, the two motorcades almost collided at the gates— motorcades almost collided at the gates of— motorcades almost collided at the gates of buckingham palace. so anxious— gates of buckingham palace. so anxious was theresa may to get there on time _ anxious was theresa may to get there on time but— anxious was theresa may to get there on time. but generally these things are very— on time. but generally these things are very carefully managed. the outgoing — are very carefully managed. the outgoing prime minister leaving, the prime _ outgoing prime minister leaving, the prime minister to be arriving also to go— prime minister to be arriving also to go into — prime minister to be arriving also to go into that audience room, where he will— to go into that audience room, where he will be _ to go into that audience room, where he will be invited by the king to form _ he will be invited by the king to form a — he will be invited by the king to
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form a government. a remarkable start to the _ form a government. a remarkable start to the reign, _ form a government. a remarkable start to the reign, nick, _ form a government. a remarkable start to the reign, nick, as - form a government. a remarkable start to the reign, nick, as we i form a government. a remarkable | start to the reign, nick, as we were reflecting earlier. the king, of course, having acceded to the throne not so many weeks ago. and already on his second prime minister, something that nobody could have imagined. how candid do you think this exchange of views will be in this exchange of views will be in this final audience with liz truss today? what is your sense without open the discussion might be? == of open the discussion might be? -- of how 0 en open the discussion might be? -- of how open this _ open the discussion might be? -- of how open this discussion _ open the discussion might be? —— of how open this discussion might be? i think king _ how open this discussion might be? i think king charles will wish to express— think king charles will wish to express sympathy and support at a human— express sympathy and support at a human level, because liz truss, whatever— human level, because liz truss, whatever one thinks about the politics — whatever one thinks about the politics of all of this, has been through— politics of all of this, has been through a _ politics of all of this, has been through a pretty traumatic few weeks — through a pretty traumatic few weeks. seeing all her policies, part in the _ weeks. seeing all her policies, part in the way—
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weeks. seeing all her policies, part in the way they have, having to resign— in the way they have, having to resign the _ in the way they have, having to resign the seven weeks to the day after— resign the seven weeks to the day after she — resign the seven weeks to the day after she was invited to form a government by queen elizabeth. sol think that _ government by queen elizabeth. sol think that a _ government by queen elizabeth. sol think that a king charles will not wish _ think that a king charles will not wish to go— think that a king charles will not wish to go into the details of what went— wish to go into the details of what went wrong and why. i think pre—eminently he will wish to express— pre—eminently he will wish to express sympathy to her and ask how they are _ express sympathy to her and ask how they are going to go forward from here as _ they are going to go forward from here as a — they are going to go forward from here as a family. i think in general terms _ here as a family. i think in general terms he — here as a family. i think in general terms he will want to talk about the overall _ terms he will want to talk about the overall situation because as monarchy is about —— bound to have considerable — monarchy is about —— bound to have considerable interest in and concern for the _ considerable interest in and concern for the state of the country. but that perhaps it is a conversation that perhaps it is a conversation that he — that perhaps it is a conversation that he will pursue with greater sense _ that he will pursue with greater sense and greater detail with the incoming — sense and greater detail with the incoming prime minister. and certainly— incoming prime minister. and certainly it would be entirely within— certainly it would be entirely within the bounds of convention for him to— within the bounds of convention for him to discuss with the new prime minister. — him to discuss with the new prime minister, what are his plans? as sovereign. — minister, what are his plans? as sovereign, he has a right to be consulted. _ sovereign, he has a right to be consulted, the right to warn and the
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film consulted, the right to warn and the right to _ consulted, the right to warn and the right to encourage. notwithstanding that he _ right to encourage. notwithstanding that he is— right to encourage. notwithstanding that he is such a new monarch, he has many— that he is such a new monarch, he has many years of experience in public— has many years of experience in public life — has many years of experience in public life and he will, i'm sure, be exercising that right as monarch in the _ be exercising that right as monarch in the way— be exercising that right as monarch in the way that his mother did for so many— in the way that his mother did for so many years with so many. 15 different — so many years with so many. 15 different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping — different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping an _ different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping an eye _ different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping an eye for— different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping an eye for the - different prime ministers. nick, we are keeping an eye for the arrival. are keeping an eye for the arrival of mr sunak. nick witchell, thank you. while we are keeping an eye on these images, we were talking to nick there about the exchange between the monarch and the outgoing, and then the incoming, prime minister and to what extent that will be candid and touch possibly and what needs to be done in the next few weeks and months by mr sunak. with all of that in mind, let's talk to professor sirjohn curtice of the university of strathclyde, whojoins curtice of the university of strathclyde, who joins us curtice of the university of strathclyde, whojoins us kindly. john, it is quite a day to be witnessing events here at westminster. what is your guidance
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to viewers on what mr sunak is facing when he walks in through that door in about an hour? foretell. facing when he walks in through that door in about an hour?— door in about an hour? well, the honest truth _ door in about an hour? well, the honest truth is _ door in about an hour? well, the honest truth is he _ door in about an hour? well, the honest truth is he is _ door in about an hour? well, the honest truth is he is probably i honest truth is he is probably facing a combination of policy challenges and political difficulties that are as great as any previous new prime minister has faced. the most immediate obvious challenge, of course, is to study the government's fiscal finances, or trying to minimise the damage to an economy that is probably heading for recession. and when many people are facing declining living standards, and for those who are less well off, potentially serious poverty during the course of the winter. but at the same time he is inheriting a party which has been internally deeply divided, partly over some policies
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in liz truss's dash for growth. but also now it is badly behind in the opinion polls. it is around 30 points or so behind labour stop knowing that no previous government that has presided over a fiscal or financial crisis of the kind that we have had over the past month, has managed to win at the ballot box at the next general election. this is a very formidable set of challenges that he faces. 0ne very formidable set of challenges that he faces. one thing he has got going for him perhaps is that of the public are inclined to the view that he might make a good prime minister. they certainly were more likely to take to him than either boris johnson or penny mordaunt, his two possible competitors. but even so, when next week we discover how tough the economic medicine is, we may already begin to see people expressing concern and disenchantment about some of the
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decisions that he is finding himself forced to. just decisions that he is finding himself forced to. g , ., .~' decisions that he is finding himself forced to. g , ., n ., decisions that he is finding himself forced to. g , ., a ., forced to. just a quick other point, if i ma , forced to. just a quick other point, if i may. before — forced to. just a quick other point, if i may, before we _ forced to. just a quick other point, if i may, before we go _ forced to. just a quick other point, if i may, before we go back- forced to. just a quick other point, if i may, before we go back to i if i may, before we go back to buckingham palace, because we are expecting mr sunak. just to develop the thought that he referred to there, which is the work that has been done so far on trying to protect what kind of electoral effect a sunak premiership might have on the conservative party. you say the early signs are that it is possibly quite positive, or what? yes, given that the conservatives are so far behind in the polls, i expect there will be a modest honeymoon boost for mr sunak, which was entirely absent in the case of liz truss. for example, his favourability rating from you gov came out yesterday. he is still unpopular. but at —28 it is a lot better than the —70 which liz truss had dissented to by the end of her
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administration. —— descended to. we have had polling since he became prime minister. it helps to narrow the gap. the expectation is to be in the gap. the expectation is to be in the short run something of a narrowing of the labour might lead, but not necessarily on the scale thatis but not necessarily on the scale that is going to get the conservatives any claims to be competitive with labour again. and then after that, the honeymoon boost is fine from the beginning, but afterwards becomes the hard work of restoring his party's reputation for economic confidence and to provide stable government more broadly. john, good to talk to you, as ever. professor sirjohn curtice of the university of strathclyde. we are having a look at these aerial images just behind downing street, i think, and the treasury. that is st james' park. chris mason, political editor, still with me. we are in this part of the proceedings where we are
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trying to spot cars from the sky, never an easy game to play! on the other hand, we are expecting mr sunak to be driven into buckingham palace before long. and i don't think, as nick witchell was telling us, we will see liz truss leaving. normally that is a more discreet affair? ,., normally that is a more discreet affair? , , ., normally that is a more discreet affair? , ., ., affair? indeed so, because at that oint she affair? indeed so, because at that point she returns _ affair? indeed so, because at that point she returns to _ affair? indeed so, because at that point she returns to be _ affair? indeed so, because at that point she returns to be -- - affair? indeed so, because at that point she returns to be -- she i point she returns to be —— she returns to being a private citizen. yes, a member of parliament. but at that point she is no longer prime minister. and right now, as we are in conversation, one of those conversations and politics that has the highest sanctity, a conversation between a prime minister, in this case an outgoing prime minister, and a monarch. those audiences that the prime ministers rab so often cherished down the generations because it is pretty much the only conversation they will be confident won't leak and won't appear in tomorrow morning's note —— newspapers. an extraordinary moment for the two of them. a new king and
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a new prime minister. conducting this valedictory audience far sooner than i suspect either would have anticipated. and then a king who has been on the throne forjust a matter of weeks, welcoming his second prime minister in the next half an hour or so. and then the briefest of moments, and these moments are intentionally incredibly brave, constitutional briefings, where the countries without a prime minister, is liz truss lease from one door at buckingham palace and rishi sunak�*s motorcade arrives and he heads in for his first audience with the king as prime minister, and he is asked to form a government. that constitutional moment where a king invites the leader of the biggest party in westminster who can command a majority in the house of commons, because that is how you are invited under our constitutional system to form a government. filth. under our constitutional system to form a government.— under our constitutional system to form a government. oh, to be a fly on the wall— form a government. oh, to be a fly
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on the wall in _ form a government. oh, to be a fly on the wall in both _ form a government. oh, to be a fly on the wall in both conferences. i l on the wall in both conferences. i just wonder what mr sunak had to say yesterday in that short statement when he used a phrase that suggested the economic challenges would require extremely difficult decisions, which some people immediately assumed meant that he would be announcing possibly some very significant spending cuts, or other decisions which would cause pain and alarm for people. one wonders in this audience whether he will have to outline to the king the kind of difficulty is that he is going to be facing? as you say, the whole point about the audiences that they can share some of the concerns in confidence?— in confidence? indeed. and the king will be able — in confidence? indeed. and the king will be able to _ in confidence? indeed. and the king will be able to reflect _ in confidence? indeed. and the king will be able to reflect on _ in confidence? indeed. and the king will be able to reflect on those i will be able to reflect on those confidential conversations he has had with the outgoing prime minister over the past few weeks and the difficulties she has encountered in the hope, i suspect, from the king's perspective, that the new prime minister can avoid similar banana skins. the economic picture is
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without question the central question that the new prime minister will have to answer. not least, who would he have as these chancellor? the expectation probably is that he will retainjeremy hunt, but we can't be certain of that. the other expectation is that he will press ahead with the economic statement scheduled for next monday, the second half of that budget, effectively, some of which was moved forward byjeremy huntjust a matter of days ago. as you say, at the heart of that is this expectation of either spending cuts or tax rises, or a combination of the two. politically that is difficult. never mind politics, what really matters is the impact it has on people's lives, the impact it has pretty instantly, really, at a time of profound concern for so many. that really leads — profound concern for so many. that really leads me _ profound concern for so many. that really leads me to _ profound concern for so many. that really leads me to the next question, which is, what kind of cabinet will rishi sunak want to have around him to discuss those kinds of policies, to get unity
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around them, when frankly the party will be divided on some of those ideas? idea logically, very sensitive to them in some areas. you do wonder what kind of team he wants to build around him? it is do wonder what kind of team he wants to build around him?— to build around him? it is really difficult, this. _ to build around him? it is really difficult, this. it _ to build around him? it is really difficult, this. it will— to build around him? it is really difficult, this. it will be - to build around him? it is really difficult, this. it will be the i difficult, this. it will be the first indication of how he intends to govern. he is going to talk, and he is emphasising the need for stability, for obvious reasons, given what has happened in the last few weeks. but his initial reactions —— actions in shaping his team will illustrate just —— actions in shaping his team will illustratejust how —— actions in shaping his team will illustrate just how committed to that he is or not. 0r illustrate just how committed to that he is or not. or he decide —— to decide he wanted his third pick for home secretary, we would have our third home secretary in a week. does he leave grant shapps there or not? does he leavejeremy hunt in post? what about the foreign secretary, james cleverly, who over the weekend, as late as sunday afternoon, was endorsing boris johnson to be the next prime minister, not rishi sunak? but mr sunak emphasises he wants to govern where he can the broadest tent of
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conservative opinion. does he leave somebody like mr cleverley in keeping in cabinet, move him some where else and have someone like penny mordaunt, who has twice run for the leadership? so, the personalities around that cabinet table, and how radically he is willing to be at a time when there is a desire for stability, you immediately see the kind of contradictions that he will face, the tensions that will pull him this way and that, in just those opening hours in office. we expect, as soon as this afternoon, confirmation of who will hold at least the major offices of state, and then perhaps over the next couple of days a greater sense of the full formulation of this comet. == formulation of this comet. -- government- _ the audience started 20 minutes ago
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between so my senses if it has not ended, it is possibly coming to an ended, it is possibly coming to an end now, but we probably won't see liz truss leaving the palace. but we are certainly keeping an eye on the traffic to see mr sunak being driven to the palace and while we wait for that to happen i will bring in anita boateng who served as a government special adviser including as the lord chancellor and the works and pensions secretary and very good of you to join pensions secretary and very good of you tojoin us. pensions secretary and very good of you to join us. what is your reading of how this transition is taking place today? it of how this transition is taking place today?— of how this transition is taking lace toda ? , ., ., ., . place today? it is the age old dance ofthe place today? it is the age old dance of the move — place today? it is the age old dance of the move from _ place today? it is the age old dance of the move from one _ place today? it is the age old dance of the move from one prime - place today? it is the age old dance l of the move from one prime minister to another, so both will be fairly used to seeing it on their screens and experiencing it for theirfirst and experiencing it for their first time and experiencing it for theirfirst time but behind the scenes in number ten you will have all sorts of things going on like the former special adviser saying their goodbyes because it has been a fairly short period of them being at
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the helm but, oh my goodness, look at all of the things that have happened, so that team will have been bonded through difficult situations and then you have the new, incoming team coming in and welcoming rishi sunak. there is often lots of energy and jubilation in those moments, but nobody in that team is in any doubt about the scale of the challenge they face, notjust in settling the economic situation and providing that little stability within the party to ensure that the uk can navigate these very choppy waters. ~ ~ , waters. when the new prime minister sets about announcing _ waters. when the new prime minister sets about announcing the _ waters. when the new prime minister sets about announcing the new- waters. when the new prime ministerj sets about announcing the new team, and given what you know how these things work behind the scenes, how much of the work will have been done already? i much of the work will have been done alread ? ~ ~' ., much of the work will have been done alread ? ~' ~ ., ., , already? i think the kind of cabinet we could have _ already? i think the kind of cabinet we could have expected _ already? i think the kind of cabinet we could have expected from i already? i think the kind of cabinet we could have expected from rishi| we could have expected from rishi sunak if he had won in the first leadership contest of the year would be quite different to the one that we will see now. and he has said very clearly to the party when he
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was elected yesterday that he wanted to bring in lots of different talent from across the party, and 12 years into conservative leadership a lot of people, former ministers on the backbenches, junior ministers looking for promotion and cabinet ministers wanting to stay in post so i don't think there is a way for him to satisfy all of those needs, but as chris said, you are going to get as chris said, you are going to get a sense of how rishi sunak is going to govern, of his priorities, and how he will manage the party through this reshuffle. i think it is going to be an incredibly difficult decision and there will be as always with reshuffles moments of pain because there will be people who will have hoped for a job that they won't have got and will be more difficult to manage as the more controversial measures roll in. haifa controversial measures roll in. how do ou controversial measures roll in. how do you think _ controversial measures roll in. how do you think you — controversial measures roll in. how do you think you will— controversial measures roll in. how do you think you will approach the issue of trying to convince millions of voters, many of whom who are all
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ready under great pressure with the cost of living that spending cuts are possibly necessary, more of them, or possibly even some tax rises in some areas? it's going to be an extremely difficult message to sell to people who are already feeling the pinch, isn't that right? absolutely but rishi sunak has proven himself to be, in my view, a consummate communicator, notjust consummate communicator, not just through consummate communicator, notjust through the pandemic but when he was making some of those very difficult decisions post—pandemic he fronted up decisions post—pandemic he fronted up to them and was very direct with people about some of the difficult decisions that had to be made and thatis decisions that had to be made and that is something that has been consistent throughout his parliamentary career and his time in high office, so i don't think he will shy away from some of the challenges and some of the sacrifices that will have to be made to put the finances on a sustainable footing. injeremy hunt as chancellor, we wait to see whether that will be confirmed but whether they have a similar approach in
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communication in terms of being straight up, reassuring and diligent in making those decisions and that compassionate conservatism will run throughout this premiership. i compassionate conservatism will run throughout this premiership.- throughout this premiership. i need to, iood throughout this premiership. i need to, good to — throughout this premiership. i need to. good to you _ throughout this premiership. i need to, good to you and _ throughout this premiership. i need to, good to you and thanks - throughout this premiership. i need to, good to you and thanks for i to, good to you and thanks for talking to us. former conservative special adviser in the cabinet office. thanks to anita. this is the 0ffice. thanks to anita. this is the senior whitehall and those of the gates to downing street. a fairly small crowd having gathered there outside the gates just to see what is going on. lots of them, as i came in earlier, are basically curious tourists, just aware that there is a changeover happening in downing street today and a bit of a mix of people, but it's clearly a matter of some curiosity and the crowd will build when they realise that rishi sunak is to arrive here within the next, probably, half an hour or 40 minutes or so, but he has to go over to buckingham palace before them for that audience with the king, where
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the king will invite him to form the next government, which he is now in a position to do given the fact he has been elected leader of the conservative party, and that parties the party with a solid majority in the party with a solid majority in the house of commons and that is how the house of commons and that is how the system works. the monarch inviting the person who has the best hope of commanding a majority in the house of commons, and that person right now, given his election yesterday is rishi sunak. these images are showing you downing street, running off whitehall, and then the little warren of buildings, rooms and offices that form 10 downing street. all we see is the front door normally but behind the front door normally but behind the front door normally but behind the front door is a network of offices and then the wooded area of the garden behind number ten and number 11 and number12 garden behind number ten and number 11 and number 12 to the left hand side, all of them part of the network of senior government buildings and part of the
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chancellor's official residence and thenit chancellor's official residence and then it loops around to the cabinet office, the whitehall cabinet office which is in many ways the machine at the heart of government, the coordinating department, and then you have the wonderful expanse of horse guards parade, which isjust there beyond the garden of downing street. horse guards parade, where the birthday parade for the monarch takes place every year, and it is flanked by the horse guards parade building and the old admiralty building, winston churchill's office on the top end as we look at the screen of the parade ground, and a great view of the river thames with the london i. a familiar sight with the london i. a familiar sight with the household cavalry making their way along the cric at mall because we are approaching 11 lakh —— 11 o'clock and it is properly tied for the changing of the guard at the
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palace today. these are the troopers of the life guards in their scarlet tunics and they are making their way to the palace itself, then along the mall itself towards buckingham palace and all of this holiday when britain is marking another milestone in terms of political history, because, in downing street which is beyond the buildings here, we are seeing the little removal van which has just moved seeing the little removal van which hasjust moved in, probably taking just a few of the belongings of liz truss out from number ten and taking them away and normally it is a bigger van, them away and normally it is a biggervan, but them away and normally it is a bigger van, but possibly less to move. ., , ., move. indeed. there was a limited window for — move. indeed. there was a limited window for all _ move. indeed. there was a limited window for all of _ move. indeed. there was a limited window for all of their _ move. indeed. there was a limited window for all of their possessions | window for all of their possessions to be moved, whether their home in greenwich or their constituency in south west norfolk and you need a
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little more than an overnight bag for seven weeks. it is little more than an overnight bag for seven weeks.— for seven weeks. it is a compact van, for seven weeks. it is a compact van. let's _ for seven weeks. it is a compact van. let's call— for seven weeks. it is a compact van, let's call it _ for seven weeks. it is a compact van, let's call it that. _ for seven weeks. it is a compact van, let's call it that. it's - for seven weeks. it is a compact van, let's call it that. it's taking | van, let's call it that. it's taking some of the possessions away and indeed we will probably see an exchange move later when some of the rishi sunakfamily exchange move later when some of the rishi sunak family possessions are brought in from one of their many residences across the uk because one of the themes of the new prime minister which people tend to dwell on is the fact that, of course, he is extreme the wealthy, and there are some people, including some conservatives you speak to who wonder whether he can convince people that he understands what households are up against given his own circumstances. bud households are up against given his own circumstances.— households are up against given his own circumstances. and i think there will be an element _ own circumstances. and i think there will be an element of— own circumstances. and i think there will be an element of that _ will be an element of that biographicalfacts will be an element of that biographical facts about the prime minister that will be quite awkward for him in the political context that he confronts. yes, there have been occupiers of downing street in the past who by any conventional
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metric relative to the average earner have been well off, but the sunak family is earner have been well off, but the sunakfamily is on a earner have been well off, but the sunak family is on a entirely different scale. there will be those who say they should be a pride attached to that, but the success of him and his wife and family but there is no doubt that there will be some who will say, to what extent can he truly feel the economic reality of so, so many families at the moment when we see the cost of delivering spiralling for basic goodsin delivering spiralling for basic goods in the supermarket or at the petrol pumps when he is of such colossal well. petrol pumps when he is of such colossalwell. it petrol pumps when he is of such colossal well. it will be interesting to see the extent to which, as soon as tomorrow, at prime minister's questions, that the opposition parties may attempt to make something of that, but even stepping back from his own family's wealth, the political challenge of what lies ahead for him around the corner on the economic question is huge, absolutely huge, as he attempts to bind his party back
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together in a way thatjust allows him to function as a prime minister because that wasn't possible for liz truss as we saw rather spectacularly. it is the basic building block of being able to govern not even convincingly, just to function day to day and if he can't do that, the job will be impossible and even if he can do that, it will be profoundly difficult for all of the reasons we have been discussing. but difficult for all of the reasons we have been discussing.— have been discussing. but as i susect have been discussing. but as i suspect we — have been discussing. but as i suspect we will _ have been discussing. but as i suspect we will be _ have been discussing. but as i suspect we will be talking i have been discussing. but as i i suspect we will be talking almost immediately about values and the values that inform decisions, so within this great economic challenge he faces, there will be questions about let's say foreign aid, let's say defence spending and the fact that lots of his backbenchers still insist that despite the circumstances there is a pledge to increase defence spending, so there will be questions, and those decisions that will be made will be a reflection of the prime minister's own values.
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a reflection of the prime minister's own values-— a reflection of the prime minister's own values. , ., ., ., own values. they will. two to govern is to decide — own values. they will. two to govern is to decide and _ own values. they will. two to govern is to decide and is _ own values. they will. two to govern is to decide and is to _ own values. they will. two to govern is to decide and is to prioritise, i is to decide and is to prioritise, particular at a time of limited means as far as the machinery and money at the heart of government is concerned, given the outlay is already set out recently connected to the pandemic and then connected to the pandemic and then connected to the pandemic and then connected to the huge energy intervention. the other thing in addition to values is character. the character of his government. we saw the inauthentic character of liz truss, we saw her character, there was a defiance there, she was absolutely of the view that while her prospectus for government clearly did not work what motivated her, that drive for economic growth, was still there burning brightly as she departed, just as it was when she arrived. so what tone will rishi sunak strike when he appears at the lectern in the next hour? what shape will his government take when he formulates his cabinet in the coming hours? and in values terms, what are his
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priorities, and what are the things you might say diplomatically he still believes in but for the future rather than for now? and of course, all of this on this shrunken timetable that he confronts because of the reality of the length of this parliament. he has a maximum of a couple of years before he has to face the electorate and of course, right now, at least, the conservatives poll ratings are on the floor. they are several floors down. a couple of floors down into the basement. he has to haul them back into a place where they can believe they are competitive again. let's take a look at central london. this is the area around admiralty arch where we expect to possibly catch a glimpse of rishi sunak when he is on his way to buckingham palace. we were talking to our royal correspondence earlier, nicholas witchell, who was keeping an eye on things at the palace for us, and he was expecting the audience to last maybe 15 or 20 minutes. i'm not sure
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whether we are in a position to get a quick update from nick at this point. but if we can, maybe nick will be able to tell us whether he understands the audience has finished yet, so, nick, and can you know? —— can you tell us what you know? -- can you tell us what you know? ~ ., ., , ., ., , know? we are not being told anything officiall but know? we are not being told anything officially but we _ know? we are not being told anything officially but we rarely _ know? we are not being told anything officially but we rarely are. _ know? we are not being told anything officially but we rarely are. but i officially but we rarely are. but certainly at 1054, four minutes ago now, we did spot a range rover which i think was identical to the one in which liz truss arrived, just quietly going out through the north centre gates without outriders and whether that was her vehicle, we do not know for certain but certainly it was a vehicle that might have been hers departed and we are the on the stage where we have the curious choreography of vehicles with an outgoing prime minister arriving at
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buckingham palace with all the panoply of a prime minister with the armoured vehicle and outriders and then having to swap to their own private vehicle, a kind of old banger that slipped out of buckingham palace. that doesn't happen any more. an outgoing prime minister would not get the outriders, but they would leave here still in the same vehicle that they arrived in. the other thing is that the incoming prime minister is already under the protection of scotland yard. we saw that yesterday in terms of the vehicle in which we saw mr sunak at central office and the protection people who were with him, but what we don't know is the direction in which they will be bringing him from. so all eyes at the moment being kept to ensure that if and when, or when, i should say, mr sunak does approach buckingham palace we will get a sight of him. but he would be due, it is 1059 and we are coming up to 11 o'clock, so i think in the next couple of minutes
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we must expect that the incoming prime minister will be arriving at buckingham palace where he will be greeted first of all by the king's private secretary, sir clive alderson, who will show him to the 1844 room where king charles will be waiting and king charles will invite mr sunak to form a government. within the next couple of minutes i think we can confidently say that thatis think we can confidently say that that is what we will be witnessing. just been handed a statement as well. elizabeth truss mp had an audience with the king this morning, tendered her resignation as prime minister, which his majesty was graciously accepted. official confirmation from the palace that the audience has taken place and that liz truss has tended her resignation. nate we now await the arrival of rishi sunak to be installed. one of the things that is
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remarkable and notable about this installation of a new prime minister is that he is the first british prime minister of british asian background. and we were talking yesterday to are my colleagues in india, in delhi about the response there. let's go back to my colleague who has been gathering the reaction and response. we were talking yesterday, and you mentioned an element of pride in the fact that mr sunak has achieved what he has achieved so far. talk to us about the response during the last 12 hours or so? and what kind of relationship people expected to be able to form with prime minister sunak? fin able to form with prime minister sunak? ., , able to form with prime minister sunak? . , ,. able to form with prime minister sunak? ., , ,., ., , sunak? on that first point, as we are watching _ sunak? on that first point, as we are watching here _ sunak? on that first point, as we are watching here in _ sunak? on that first point, as we are watching here in india - sunak? on that first point, as we are watching here in india the i are watching here in india the events unfolding outside buckingham palace and downing street today, a lot of people in india are seeing this through a very different lens. i mentioned this yesterday when we
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spoke. about the historical context here. this is a 75 years since india gained independence from british rule. many people see the election, or the introduction now, i should say, of a british indian prime minister, the first hindu who is going to be in downing street, number 10 downing street, as a huge symbolic moment in terms of rebalancing that relationship. i mentioned yesterday some of the headlines that talked about the indian sun rising over the empire. about how history has come full circle. more headlines today in some of the papers talking about the rishi rise. and talking about how that relationship is now slightly different. and rishi sunak in the past himself, when he has given speeches about the relationship between india and the uk, has described it as an equal partnership. there is some hope that once he is installed as the new prime minister, that much awaited trade deal could move forward because it stalled. it was supposed
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to be completed by yesterday, as you remember. . ~ to be completed by yesterday, as you remember. ., ,, , ., , to be completed by yesterday, as you remember. . ~' , ., , . ~ remember. thank you very much. we will be back— remember. thank you very much. we will be back to _ remember. thank you very much. we will be back to you _ remember. thank you very much. we will be back to you later _ remember. thank you very much. we will be back to you later if _ remember. thank you very much. we will be back to you later if we - remember. thank you very much. we will be back to you later if we can i will be back to you later if we can because we are just looking at the images from whitehall. i think that is the old admiralty building. i may be wrong. that is where the new prime minister, the incoming prime minister, rishi sunak, is being taken from. there we are, the vehicles on their way. yes, the old admiralty building. along the same route that liz truss was taking through trafalgar square and through admiralty arch, down to buckingham palace. so, they are on their way. the incoming prime minister, the second prime minister of the king's new rain. he is on his way to the palace to be asked by his majesty to form a government. and what a day form a government. and what a day for the sunakfamily. form a government. and what a day for the sunak family. when you think of their background, and when you
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think of their history in terms of being, for grandparents, being immigrants from east africa of indian origin. the first hindu prime minister. talking a lot about the prime minister's face and the role that plays in his life. so many aspects of today's events and today's appointment will be poured overin today's appointment will be poured over in the days and weeks to come. with may, chris mason, our political editor, and our economics editor, faisal islam. faisal, as we look at these images of the new prime minister making his way to see the king, it is a good moment i going to reflect on the fact that the happiness and pride will no doubt be tempered in some way by the scale of the challenge that he faces? bud tempered in some way by the scale of the challenge that he faces? find it the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge _ the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge in _ the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge in an _ the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge in an area _ the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge in an area that i the challenge that he faces? and it is a challenge in an area that we i is a challenge in an area that we seem _ is a challenge in an area that we seem to — is a challenge in an area that we seem to be _ is a challenge in an area that we seem to be prime minister has warned about _ seem to be prime minister has warned about it _ seem to be prime minister has warned about it is _ seem to be prime minister has warned about. it is quite extraordinary, notjust— about. it is quite extraordinary, notjust the timing of about. it is quite extraordinary, not just the timing of you having
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been _ not just the timing of you having been here — not just the timing of you having been here seven weeks ago doing the same _ been here seven weeks ago doing the same thing _ been here seven weeks ago doing the same thing for liz truss, but before that _ same thing for liz truss, but before that, just _ same thing for liz truss, but before that, just days before that, they now incoming prime minister was warning _ now incoming prime minister was warning precisely about some of the things— warning precisely about some of the things that transpired. now, he hasn't _ things that transpired. now, he hasn't said much. and he certainly hasn't said much. and he certainly has not _ hasn't said much. and he certainly has not said. — hasn't said much. and he certainly has not said, i told you so. but he must _ has not said, i told you so. but he must be _ has not said, i told you so. but he must be thinking that and that must be conditioning how he now wants to carry out _ be conditioning how he now wants to carry out his — be conditioning how he now wants to carry out his duties. he has a tough economic— carry out his duties. he has a tough economic task, but he is prime minister— economic task, but he is prime minister now. one of his first things— minister now. one of his first things is, _ minister now. one of his first things is, yes, you thinkjeremy hunt _ things is, yes, you thinkjeremy hunt is — things is, yes, you thinkjeremy hunt is going to remain as chancellor, but the temptation of a former— chancellor, but the temptation of a former chancellor moving into number 10 is to _ former chancellor moving into number 10 is to be _ former chancellor moving into number 10 is to be your own chancellor. it is a very— 10 is to be your own chancellor. it is a very different job. certainly when _ is a very different job. certainly when gordon brown did the direct move _ when gordon brown did the direct move from — when gordon brown did the direct move from number 11 to number 10, there _ move from number 11 to number 10, there was— move from number 11 to number 10, there was a — move from number 11 to number 10, there was a suggestion he continued to micromanage as though he was still over— to micromanage as though he was still over the treasury. we will get a clue _ still over the treasury. we will get a clue as— still over the treasury. we will get a clue as to — still over the treasury. we will get a clue as to what sort of prime minister— a clue as to what sort of prime minister key will be. but this challenge, i think,
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minister key will be. but this challenge, ithink, is minister key will be. but this challenge, i think, is so important. we have _ challenge, i think, is so important. we have seen the news this morning from the _ we have seen the news this morning from the statistics office about the hu-e from the statistics office about the huge rises — from the statistics office about the huge rises in the price of food, everyday— huge rises in the price of food, everyday goods. these are the sorts of challenges that he will have to address — of challenges that he will have to address. ., �* a ., of challenges that he will have to address. ., �* ., ., address. into buckingham palace, throu:h address. into buckingham palace, through the _ address. into buckingham palace, through the main _ address. into buckingham palace, through the main gates, - address. into buckingham palace, through the main gates, the i address. into buckingham palace, i through the main gates, the central gates. and rishi sunak are being taken through to the visitors's entrance and probably up to the same room that nicholas witchell was telling us about earlier, the 1844 room, where the king will be waiting to grant the audience to the incoming prime minister. so, the audience with liz truss lasted at least 20 minutes, probably 25 minutes. and this one, i suspect, will last a good 20 minutes. we were expecting mr sunak to be arriving at downing street in half an hour. if this lasts until about half past 11, thenit this lasts until about half past 11, then it willjust this lasts until about half past 11, then it will just take them this lasts until about half past 11, then it willjust take them three minutes or so, four minutes, on
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clear roads, to come from the palace over to downing street. but here we are, being greeted by the equerry and the other royal household staff, our first glimpse today of britain's incoming prime minister. rishi sunak greeted by senior officials from the royal household. along with mrs sunak. and into the palace via the quadrangle and up to the first floor to that audience room, which has already been used once today with liz truss. and now will be used again for the new prime minister, the incoming prime minister. still
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with me, chris mason, faisal islam. just a note on this point, chris a as we see, for the first time today, eight limbs of rishi sunak going in there. such a daunting moment as well? its. there. such a daunting moment as well? �* ., ., ., ., ., well? a daunting moment, a moment of triumh. an well? a daunting moment, a moment of triumph. an extraordinary _ well? a daunting moment, a moment of triumph. an extraordinary moment i well? a daunting moment, a moment of triumph. an extraordinary moment for l triumph. an extraordinary moment for him personally. a matter of months ago he had been plunged into the political wilderness, wondering what his political future, political wilderness, wondering what his politicalfuture, if he had one, would amount to. i think he was photographed on a plane to spain. defeated by liz truss as he was then, having been seen as the likely runner—up for the entire time of the conversation the two of them were having with conservative party members. yes, he had set out very candidly during the summer what he saw as the weaknesses of liz truss's economic prospectus. as pfizer was reflecting on, he has not said out loud in public, i told you so, but
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that thought must have crossed his mind. —— faisal. his economic analysis of the summer was vindicated by the reality of the early autumn. but it is his problem now, at least it will be within half an hour. how does he grapple with the problem is that liz truss inherited from borisjohnson, but then ladled onto the top of that of then ladled onto the top of that of the additional problems that liz truss has handed on to him? not least, as so many of our viewers will be aware, the additional mortgage costs associated with what has happened in recent weeks, the ongoing state of the economic statistics that faisal was speaking to just a couple of moments ago. they are hugely profound economic challenges, and would be at a time of political stability. and of course he cannot guarantee that. i was struck last night, talking to conservative mps, but they were falling over themselves to say, we really have got to be united now. deja vu. they were saying that seven
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weeks ago. what has changed since thenis weeks ago. what has changed since then is the conservative party has styled over the precipice of oblivion and seen just how bleak it would be were they to leap over it. and i think they now now that they have to be, if they are going to have to be, if they are going to have a future, together because the challenges of government would be huge for rishi sunak if he can hold his party together. they will be impossible if he can't. we know that because we know what happened to liz truss, we know what happened to borisjohnson. but truss, we know what happened to boris johnson. but those challenges of being united and being stable to begin when he tries to form a government, bringing various elements of the conservative parliamentary party together at a time when most of those cabinet ministers, even the most long serving, some, like the chancellor and home secretary, forjust a matter of days. we and home secretary, for 'ust a matter of days.i and home secretary, for 'ust a matter of da s. ~ ., ., ,, ., matter of days. we are talking about the long-awaited _ matter of days. we are talking about the long-awaited fiscal _ matter of days. we are talking about the long-awaited fiscal statement, l the long—awaited fiscal statement, faisal, which is due next monday. you have a relatively new chancellor
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in place. a big decision there about whether that person stays, whether jeremy hunt stays. and of course given the sensitivities around the markets and the way they have responded to the way government has been conducting itself in the last several weeks, been conducting itself in the last severalweeks, if been conducting itself in the last several weeks, if that statement is postponed, orfor several weeks, if that statement is postponed, or for whatever reason several weeks, if that statement is postponed, orfor whatever reason is put off, they again risk making people ratherjumpy, don't they? i think he would have conventionally thought— think he would have conventionally thought of that. i think rishi sunak. — thought of that. i think rishi sunak, given his warnings and given his track— sunak, given his warnings and given his track record as chancellor, probably— his track record as chancellor, probably carries enough trust from the markets, and credibility from the markets, and credibility from the markets, and credibility from the markets, for him to have some options _ the markets, for him to have some options now — the markets, for him to have some options now. i think clearly sticking _ options now. i think clearly sticking with the same chancellor, and sticking to the timetable, would be stability. but he may be tempted to have _ be stability. but he may be tempted to have an _ be stability. but he may be tempted to have an extra week or so to own this moment. i don't know. they have been _ this moment. idon't know. they have been very— this moment. i don't know. they have been very tight with information. this is— been very tight with information. this is some speculation. i think the option— this is some speculation. i think the option is available to him. to .ive the option is available to him. to give you — the option is available to him. to
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give you an — the option is available to him. to give you an example, the effective costs _ give you an example, the effective costs of— give you an example, the effective costs of borrowing are now nearly back— costs of borrowing are now nearly back to _ costs of borrowing are now nearly back to where they were not early morning _ back to where they were not early morning of— back to where they were not early morning of the mini budget, the evening of the mini budget. so, they have recovered. that is notjust a vote _ have recovered. that is notjust a vote of— have recovered. that is notjust a vote of confidence. it also has a tangible — vote of confidence. it also has a tangible impact on some of those mortgage costs, eventually it should — mortgage costs, eventually it should. and the question is, can they— should. and the question is, can they continue in that vein? the tough — they continue in that vein? the tough decisions are still there to be made — tough decisions are still there to be made and have to be made at some sta-e be made and have to be made at some stage in— be made and have to be made at some stage in the _ be made and have to be made at some stage in the next couple of weeks. but i _ stage in the next couple of weeks. but i think— stage in the next couple of weeks. but i think they will be happy with how this _ but i think they will be happy with how this has been greeted in the markets — how this has been greeted in the markets already before he has even made _ markets already before he has even made a _ markets already before he has even made a decision. how markets already before he has even made a decision.— made a decision. how well do they iet made a decision. how well do they net on, made a decision. how well do they get on. the — made a decision. how well do they get on. the new— made a decision. how well do they get on, the new prime _ made a decision. how well do they get on, the new prime minister- made a decision. how well do they| get on, the new prime minister and the chancellor? d0 get on, the new prime minister and the chancellor?— get on, the new prime minister and the chancellor? ., , ., the chancellor? do we now? they have known each other— the chancellor? do we now? they have known each other for _ the chancellor? do we now? they have known each other for a _ the chancellor? do we now? they have known each other for a long _ the chancellor? do we now? they have known each other for a long time. i i known each other for a long time. i think broadly speaking what we saw from jeremy hunt in that sort of shredding of the economic orthodoxy of liz truss was something relatively akin to where rishi sunak�*s economic argument was over the summer. i don't hear of any
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personal tensions between the two of them. i thinkjeremy hunt will be very keen, if he can, to carry on in that post. it was quite striking reading the subtext of the tweet that he posted last night congratulating rishi sunak on his appointment, that he couldn't be certain that that was going to happen. certain that that was going to ha en. . ., , certain that that was going to hauen. ,., ., it certain that that was going to hauen. _, ., it is certain that that was going to hauen. _, ., itisa happen. here it comes again! it is a new lecturing- _ happen. here it comes again! it is a new lecturing- a — happen. here it comes again! it is a new lecturing. a different _ happen. here it comes again! it is a new lecturing. a different lectern. l new lecturing. a different lectern. the jenga style new lecturing. a different lectern. thejenga style like turn, liz truss' loechen of choice, has gone. we have gone back to a more traditionally designed like turn with the government crest on the front of it, awaiting the new prime minister. , ., ., minister. there you go. -- lecturing- _ minister. there you go. -- lecturing. the _ minister. there you go. -- lecturing. the physical- minister. there you go. -- i lecturing. the physical evidence that things are happening. the new prime minister is, as we speak, just a mile or so away in buckingham palace. he is being asked by the king to form a new government. and
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this tells you, and all the paraphernalia of the street, will tell you that the world's media gathered around us, will tell you that the arrangements are being made for the new prime minister to speak as he arrives and to set out maybe, in rather more detail and may be in a slightly different way, too yesterday, where he had a statement from him which was relatively brief and pretty kind of matter of fact. i think today's will be possibly delivered in a different town and will strike a different note. we will strike a different note. we will see. but you would expect some kind of signal they are as to the vision that will underpin mr sunak�*s premiership. he is of course the former chancellor. and one challenge former chancellor. and one challenge for him will be, as faisal has been saying, and chris too, how he handles the economy. let's speak to the bank of england former deputy directorfor monetary the bank of england former deputy director for monetary policy,
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professor sir charlie bean. thank you for waiting patiently to talk to us. what is your take on the challenge and some of the decisions that will need to be taken within hours possibly of the prime minister arrival here. the hours possibly of the prime minister arrival here-— arrival here. the first thing he has to do is decide _ arrival here. the first thing he has to do is decide who _ arrival here. the first thing he has to do is decide who his _ arrival here. the first thing he has to do is decide who his chancellor| to do is decide who his chancellor will be. there is a strong case for sticking with jeremy will be. there is a strong case for sticking withjeremy hunt. he and sunak seem to be aligned in the way they view the challenges and hunt has made a good start in terms of clawing back some of the damage done by the mini budget, so we have seen bond yields come down substantially and that has a direct consequence not only the cost of government debt but also feeds through ultimately to the cost of mortgages and things like that. but beyond that there are
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two challenges. one is the nearer term challenge ofjust dealing with the spike in the price of energy and the spike in the price of energy and the government had introduced the energy price guarantee butjeremy hunt has indicated he thinks it's appropriate to reduce the cost of that as we go into next year. and the design of that will be a challenge, exactly who bears the burden of higher energy costs and so forth. but in some ways the bigger challenge is the medium term one of feeling what is now thought to be a 30 or 40 billion pounds a year hole in the public finances. it should be said that the decline in bond yields and interest rates on the short
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horizon as well, that will automatically help to fill a significant chunk of that whole, so we are probably nearer to the 30 billion rather than the 40 billion but beyond that there will be difficult decisions to be made as to whether it will be filled by higher revenues which could mean higher taxes but there are other ways of enhancing government revenue to. although it involves a further squeeze on public spending, and remember the existing cash limits set a year ago have not been adjusted for the higher inflation we have seen in the past year, so they already employ a significant squeeze on the public sector so sunak and whoever his chancellor will be will have to make some difficult decisions there. i think the crucial issue and there is a measure of
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things you can choose from, the crucial thing will be whether conservative mps who are now all talking about unity, but when it comes to being faced with particular measures they don't like, are they going to support them or are we going to support them or are we going to support them or are we going to see them reverting to the chaotic infighting we see. bill of chaotic infighting we see. all of those are fascinating _ chaotic infighting we see. all of those are fascinating thoughts, and hopefully we will get some answers to some of them in the next few hours or so, but thank you so much for talking to was there from couege for talking to was there from college green not far from downing street and not far from buckingham palace where the audience is taking place between rishi sunak and the king where the invitation has been extended to form a new government after which the new prime minister, formally installed and appointed,
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having shaken hands with the king will be making his way, and the royal standard is flying proudly in the breeze above buckingham palace which is the evidence to the world that the monarchy is in residence and it was the union flag earlier but that has been replaced by the royal standard as soon as the king arrived at buckingham palace a short while ago. as we look at these images, our economics editor is with me, and i wanted to ask you as well, given your heritage, what is your take on this moment for the british asian community? i take on this moment for the british asian community?— asian community? i am sure the incomin: asian community? i am sure the incoming prime _ asian community? i am sure the incoming prime minister - asian community? i am sure the incoming prime minister will i asian community? i am sure the incoming prime minister will notj incoming prime minister will not want to make a big deal about it and i don't want to make a big deal about it, but it is pretty incredible to think that somebody from recent immigrant background is in, right now, with his majesty the king. i know they don't formally kiss the hand, but accepting that
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mandate to be prime minister of this country, it is a moment of history. we have not seen it in a major european country. i think we saw it in ireland and portugal, but in france, germany, italy, they are not even close to having a moment like this and it doesn't mean, because there are plenty of viewers who will not back its politics, and we have been through the ring in this country in the last few weeks and months but it is something that the system has allowed to happen that we can be proud of that in a major country somebody who's parents, grandparents came from another country have come through and will be standing at the podium and will be standing at the podium and will be prime minister. it is an extraordinary historical moment and as i said, amongst the g7 european countries, it hasn't happened and i don't think france, germany, italy they are not even close and frankly i don't think there are people doing myjob in france, germany and italy,
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which is not to say everyone should give him a free pass. he is a politician of certain views and people will back that or not back that but it is noteworthy, but i don't think it will make a big deal of it. �* , , ., don't think it will make a big deal ofit.�* , ., don't think it will make a big deal ofit. �* , ., ., of it. i'm sure you are right and i'm of it. i'm sure you are right and i'm sure _ of it. i'm sure you are right and i'm sure even _ of it. i'm sure you are right and i'm sure even those _ of it. i'm sure you are right and i'm sure even those are - of it. i'm sure you are right and i i'm sure even those are viscerally opposed to his political outlook and the policies he might put in place and his policies are chancellor, lots of people will want to recognise that it is a reflection, a good reflection on the uk that somebody with his background can make it in that sense. £311" somebody with his background can make it in that sense. our openness, our comfort. — make it in that sense. our openness, our comfort, and _ make it in that sense. our openness, our comfort, and not _ make it in that sense. our openness, our comfort, and not everything i make it in that sense. our openness, our comfort, and not everything is i our comfort, and not everything is perfect in terms of race in britain but it is a reflection of our openness and comfort with race at this moment is even possible. but he would argue it does not presuppose or predetermine any of his political beliefs. it's free to decide and think what he wants to, but yes, a moment of history and certainly one of my parents would have never
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imagined when they came here in the 19605. ., , ., ., , 19605. that is one of the things, that is one _ 19605. that is one of the things, that is one of — 19605. that is one of the things, that is one of the _ 19605. that is one of the things, that is one of the reasons - 19605. that is one of the things, that is one of the reasons why i 19605. that is one of the things, l that is one of the reasons why i'm keen to talk about this element today, which is there will be lots of people watching who came to this country possibly back in the 60s, let's say, or before then and i know some families, british asian families who go back to the 70s who are more recent still, they cannot quite believe it is happening and in one case they are solid labour people and they are certainly not conservatives, but a big part of them is rather pleased that this is being recognised and there is no fuss about it and there is no debate about that. it might sound an odd thing to say. in about that. it might sound an odd thing to say-— thing to say. in a funny way we shouldn't _ thing to say. in a funny way we shouldn't be _ thing to say. in a funny way we shouldn't be talking _ thing to say. in a funny way we shouldn't be talking about i thing to say. in a funny way we shouldn't be talking about it. l thing to say. in a funny way we l shouldn't be talking about it. but it is worth noting, it is an important thing to note because it says something about the way society has changed and there was one distinguished commentator yesterday saying there is no shortage of resentment in parts of the country
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at immigrants and no shortage of resentment in terms of the mix that exists, but it doesn't mean to say that society has not changed enormously over the last 50 years and today is part of that change. our chief political correspondent is with us and we are just hanging on these images here, not to because they are nice images and they look rather good but we will see when rishi sunak leaves the palace and we follow the car back to downing street, we will then of course be in our familiar crouching position as we wait for the speech to be delivered. i am just wondering, from your point of view, what does rishi sunak need to say in the statement today when he comes here which was not said yesterday? i'm not being unkind. yesterday was rather businesslike and delivered in a kind of monotone voice. surely today there needs to be more in terms of vision, and the toner possibly needs to be different. what is your
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checklist? i to be different. what is your checklist?— to be different. what is your checklist? ~ . , checklist? i think that is right. i don't expect — checklist? i think that is right. i don't expect rishi _ checklist? ! think that is right. i don't expect rishi sunak- checklist? i think that is right. i don't expect rishi sunak to i checklist? i think that is right. i | don't expect rishi sunak to have supporters in the street. he will break— supporters in the street. he will break with— supporters in the street. he will break with the tradition of having his allies — break with the tradition of having his allies clapping him in, and the view_ his allies clapping him in, and the view in _ his allies clapping him in, and the view in his— his allies clapping him in, and the view in his team is this is a serious _ view in his team is this is a serious time, not one for celebration, and i think that will ultimately be reflected in what we hear from — ultimately be reflected in what we hear from the new prime minister in his first _ hear from the new prime minister in his first speech in downing street. there _ his first speech in downing street. there is— his first speech in downing street. there is no— his first speech in downing street. there is no doubt that he will repeat — there is no doubt that he will repeat what he said yesterday. these are trying _ repeat what he said yesterday. these are trying economic times and he will try— are trying economic times and he will try to — are trying economic times and he will try to prepare for what we are expecting — will try to prepare for what we are expecting from the government in the next ten _ expecting from the government in the next ten days or so which are some pretty— next ten days or so which are some pretty tough economic decisions. the argument _ pretty tough economic decisions. the argument that the chancellor has made, _ argument that the chancellor has made, the current chancellor is you will have _ made, the current chancellor is you will have to — made, the current chancellor is you will have to cut spending and there will have to cut spending and there will be _ will have to cut spending and there will be arrays of some taxes to plug the fiscal— will be arrays of some taxes to plug the fiscal black hole, and i think that will— the fiscal black hole, and i think that will be the crux of what mr sunak— that will be the crux of what mr sunak says. he has to prepare the country— sunak says. he has to prepare the country for— sunak says. he has to prepare the country for what he thinks are bound
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to be _ country for what he thinks are bound to be tough— country for what he thinks are bound to be tough economic times, and for a massive _ to be tough economic times, and for a massive debate about what should be cut _ a massive debate about what should be cut from — a massive debate about what should be cut from public spending, if anything. _ be cut from public spending, if anything, what taxes need to go up. it's anything, what taxes need to go up. it's all— anything, what taxes need to go up. it's all about rolling the pitch, and that— it's all about rolling the pitch, and that is what liz truss was not doing. _ and that is what liz truss was not doing. hot— and that is what liz truss was not doing, not preparing people for how hard and _ doing, not preparing people for how hard and fast she was going to go. mr sunak— hard and fast she was going to go. mr sunak is — hard and fast she was going to go. mr sunak is going to arrive here shortly— mr sunak is going to arrive here shortly and hisjob mr sunak is going to arrive here shortly and his job will be to set out to— shortly and his job will be to set out to the — shortly and his job will be to set out to the country why he is doing what _ out to the country why he is doing what he _ out to the country why he is doing what he is — out to the country why he is doing what he is about to do. fine out to the country why he is doing what he is about to do.— out to the country why he is doing what he is about to do. one of the other problems, _ what he is about to do. one of the other problems, and _ what he is about to do. one of the other problems, and bear - what he is about to do. one of the other problems, and bear with - what he is about to do. one of the | other problems, and bear with me, because i want to bring another colleague in, is of course what is happening in northern ireland and all of the trouble there over the protocol in northern ireland and trading relations with britain in this case between northern ireland and britain and the republic of ireland which is in the eu. this protocol issue has still not been resolved. let's talk to our ireland correspondent, charlotte gallagher,
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who joins us now. correspondent, charlotte gallagher, whojoins us now. what correspondent, charlotte gallagher, who joins us now. what are your thoughts on the first of all, can we talk about personnel. northern ireland secretary, are we likely to see a change? irate ireland secretary, are we likely to see a change?— ireland secretary, are we likely to see a change? we could well see a chance. see a change? we could well see a change- chris _ see a change? we could well see a change. chris heaton-harris, - see a change? we could well see a change. chris heaton-harris, the l change. chris heaton—harris, the current northern ireland secretary has said he wants to stay on the job and feels like he has unfinished business. steve baker, the northern ireland minister, he wants to stay as well. chris heaton—harris supported borisjohnson in the early stages of this recent leadership contest and then switched to rishi sunak. we do not know if he will stay. steve baker, we do not know if he will stay, same so many questions facing northern ireland. julian smith, former northern ireland secretary has been mentioned as possibly coming back. he was someone who was incredibly popular in northern ireland and managed to get on with all parties which, i'm sure you will know, is quite a feat in northern ireland. and now we are looking at whether there will be an election to storm and called on
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friday and you mentioned the protocol there and essentially there has been a fully functioning dissolved government since february and the democratic unionist party are refusing to go back to stormont until the protocol post—brexit are either significantly altered or scrapped altogether. the deadline is this friday for all parties to return to stormont. it would take a miracle for that to happen for the dup to go back to stormont at this point and they are saying they want words, not actions, they don't want promises. it is looking like an election will be called on friday here. chris heaton—harris has said it will definitely happen but he might be out of a job by then and steve baker has said this is an area where the government won't you turn but they haven't you turned in the past and it is possible if there is a new northern ireland secretary they might choose to implement a delay so it would not be called on friday but so many questions here,
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and people, like everywhere in the uk are facing a cost of living crisis and they want health care sorted, public transport, education, but because there isn't a functioning devolved government, these things are not being dealt with as they should be.- these things are not being dealt with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold — with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold it _ with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold it there _ with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold it there for— with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold it there for a _ with as they should be. many thanks. we will hold it there for a second. - we will hold it there for a second. i want to put some of those points to jessica i want to put some of those points tojessica parker, our colleague in brussels, and to ask you how you think the eu is looking at the prospect of a rishi sunak premiership in terms of trying to resolve these really difficult issues around the northern ireland protocol. i issues around the northern ireland rotocol. ~ . , protocol. i think initially, during the summer— protocol. i think initially, during the summer leadership - protocol. i think initially, during the summer leadership contest | protocol. ithink initially, during - the summer leadership contest when it was down to rishi sunak versus liz truss, rishi sunak, if you spoke to officials and diplomats privately was the preferred candidate. there was a sense that as the former chancellor, and reports that he had warned of the potential economic impact of a trade war with europe if the protocol dispute escalated, they
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thought he would properly take what is often termed hear a more pragmatic approach. and i think there is a sense of welcoming a rishi sunak premiership in that way, but also that is tempered by the fact that some people also look at the conservative party and think pressure from the right of the party, the eurosceptic wing of the party, the eurosceptic wing of the party, will still apply to rishi sunak in terms of making any compromises over trying to fix those problems with post—brexit trading arrangements for northern ireland but the other thing to mention as well is he is a relatively unknown quantity here. borisjohnson, of course, used to working as a journalist in brussels, a brexit poster boy and liz truss before she became prime minister was foreign secretary so relatively well—known in international circles. rishi sunak is more of an unknown quantity for people but they are certainly watching with interest if not fascination, certainly over the last few weeks people have been observing what is happening with british
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politics with some quite substantial interest and i would say thatjaws dropped to the floor late last week as news emerged of the possible return of borisjohnson. they were pretty relieved i think to see that did not turn out to be the case. thank you, jessica for the reading on the position in brussels. jessica parker, our corresponded. back here in central london, i think we are probably fairly close to the end of this audience which the king is giving the new prime minister. it is now 11:30am. my guess is that of the audience will be coming to an end fairly soon. nick eardley is with me. we are going to be waiting for the departure of rishi sunak from the departure of rishi sunak from the palace and the journey back to downing street and of course the opening statement as prime minister, when mr sunak arrives here. this
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initial audience with the king. the king will have met mr sunak many times before. but this initial audience will be interesting in setting the tone of their relationship. nicholas witchell, our royal correspondent, is keeping an eye on things at the palace. what are your thoughts on timings and other things?— other things? they went in at 11:07am _ other things? they went in at 11:07am. so, _ other things? they went in at 11:07am. so, the _ other things? they went in at 11:07am. so, the audience i other things? they went in at | 11:07am. so, the audience has other things? they went in at - 11:07am. so, the audience has been taking _ 11:07am. so, the audience has been taking place — 11:07am. so, the audience has been taking place for 23, 24 minutes. i agree _ taking place for 23, 24 minutes. i agree with — taking place for 23, 24 minutes. i agree with you, i think any moment now agree with you, i think any moment how we _ agree with you, i think any moment now we should be seeing the sunaks leaving _ now we should be seeing the sunaks leaving buckingham palace as prime minister. _ leaving buckingham palace as prime minister, with his wife akshata murtv — minister, with his wife akshata murty. greeted by the king's a private — murty. greeted by the king's a private secretary, and sir edward young. _ private secretary, and sir edward young, private secretary to queen elizabeth. — young, private secretary to queen elizabeth, who is still there in an advisory— elizabeth, who is still there in an advisory role, assisting the new king _
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advisory role, assisting the new king i— advisory role, assisting the new king i am — advisory role, assisting the new king. i am sure that it is a matter of particular— king. i am sure that it is a matter of particular satisfaction to king charles, — of particular satisfaction to king charles, presiding over his first appointment of a prime minister, that that — appointment of a prime minister, that that prime minister should be someone — that that prime minister should be someone of indian origin, the first prime _ someone of indian origin, the first prime minister of the united kingdom of colour— prime minister of the united kingdom of colour to. a man who the king certainly— of colour to. a man who the king certainly knows well from his time as chancellor of the exchequer. and ithink— as chancellor of the exchequer. and i think that — as chancellor of the exchequer. and i think that will be a matter of satisfaction to the king, given how much, _ satisfaction to the king, given how much, as— satisfaction to the king, given how much, as prince of wales, he demonstrated his commitment to multiculturalism and diversity, particularly diversity of faith. he made _ particularly diversity of faith. he made an— particularly diversity of faith. he made an important statement about that a _ made an important statement about that a couple of days after he became — that a couple of days after he became king to religious leaders, he said he _ became king to religious leaders, he said he wanted to be sovereign of all communities. there is, of course, — all communities. there is, of course, now the prospect that at his coronation _ course, now the prospect that at his coronation in — course, now the prospect that at his coronation in may the british prime minister— coronation in may the british prime minister will be a practising hindu. and that, — minister will be a practising hindu. and that, i— minister will be a practising hindu. and that, i think, says a lot about the multiculturalism and the diversity of the united kingdom and that will— diversity of the united kingdom and that will be something that pleases
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the king _ that will be something that pleases the king. so we can assume that about— the king. so we can assume that about now— the king. so we can assume that about now we do have a new prime minister— about now we do have a new prime minister albeit that we have not had a sight _ minister albeit that we have not had a sight of— minister albeit that we have not had a sight of him. but i would imagine inthe— a sight of him. but i would imagine in the next — a sight of him. but i would imagine in the next few minutes we will see prime _ in the next few minutes we will see prime minister sunak leaving buckingham palace to make his way, with his _ buckingham palace to make his way, with his wife, back to downing street— with his wife, back to downing street to — with his wife, back to downing street to make that much anticipated statement _ street to make that much anticipated statement at the left turn which is now standing in front of the gates of downing street. that is where we are now _ of downing street. that is where we are now it— of downing street. that is where we are now it is— of downing street. that is where we are now. it is 1133. he is running a little _ are now. it is 1133. he is running a little bit _ are now. it is 1133. he is running a little bit behind schedule. i am quite _ little bit behind schedule. i am quite sure they will have been a serious — quite sure they will have been a serious conversation between the new prime _ serious conversation between the new prime minister and the new king, exercising, — prime minister and the new king, exercising, as i was mentioning earlier, — exercising, as i was mentioning earlier, his— exercising, as i was mentioning earlier, his right to be consulted, to encourage and to warn. king charles— to encourage and to warn. king charles will want to know the kind of direction of travel that his new prime _ of direction of travel that his new prime minister intends to take and how he _ prime minister intends to take and how he intends to set about the pressing — how he intends to set about the pressing and huge, particularly economic— pressing and huge, particularly economic issues, together with those issues _ economic issues, together with those issues in _ economic issues, together with those issues in which the king takes a
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particular— issues in which the king takes a particular interest. of course, the environment, the upcoming conference in egypt _ environment, the upcoming conference in egypt that the king will have a particular— in egypt that the king will have a particular interest in. but overwhelming all of those issues, obviouslv. — overwhelming all of those issues, obviously, is the economic dilemma, the electric— obviously, is the economic dilemma, the electric -- — obviously, is the economic dilemma, the electric —— the economic challenge _ the electric —— the economic challenge that will be first and foremost on the agenda of the new prime _ foremost on the agenda of the new prime minister as he prepares to return— prime minister as he prepares to return to — prime minister as he prepares to return to downing street to take up residence _ return to downing street to take up residence there.— return to downing street to take up residence there. next, with any luck we may have — residence there. next, with any luck we may have an _ residence there. next, with any luck we may have an image _ residence there. next, with any luck we may have an image from - residence there. next, with any luck we may have an image from the - we may have an image from the audience taking place. there we have it. there is the greeting. there is king charles greeting the new prime minister, rishi sunak. a very warm image. nice smiles all around. as the invitation is extended to mr sunak to form the next government. and nick eardley is with me. that is an image that does express warmth? i an image that does express warmth? i think that is true. i think it is absolutely right. a big moment for
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both of them. this is the first time for both of them over seamless transfer of power, the new king, his first prime minister that he is appointing. rishi sunak about to become the uk's new prime minister, the 57th no less. but he has, you can see they both look quite comfortable in that situation, don't they? comfortable in that situation, don't the ? . . comfortable in that situation, don't the ? , , ,. ., they? this is the scene from buckingham _ they? this is the scene from buckingham palace - they? this is the scene from buckingham palace just - they? this is the scene from buckingham palace just a i they? this is the scene from | buckingham palace just a few they? this is the scene from _ buckingham palace just a few moments ago. it is now 25 to 12 this happened 25 minutes ago during the audience, which is probably at an end now. if it has not ended already. they have been very efficient getting that image ad from the initial greeting. there is the confirmation that mr sunak has been formally appointed as prime minister of the united kingdom. the youngest prime minister in 200 years and the
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first prime minister of indian origin. so, it's a big day on many currents. nobody is underestimating the scale of the challenge facing mr sunak after the turbulence and the mistakes that have been admitted by government in the past few weeks. it is a turbulent time. the sun may be shining but economically it is quite a gloomy forecast. there are decisions to be made which will affect millions of households up and down the country, with people feeling a lot of concern and a lot of alarm about the rising cost of living and indeed the rising cost of fuel. so, the decisions, certainly very difficult. so behind the smiles, behind the warmth, and behind the greetings, a lot of concern about what this new government of rishi sunak, these same conservatives in power, but a new government under a new prime minister in that sense, will have to do, and the decisions that will have to be taken. because one senses,
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nick eardley, that these smiles will of course be adorning lots of newspaper front pages tomorrow and all kinds of media, but once the meetings start in downing street later today, there will be a few smiles around, it will be down to business? i smiles around, it will be down to business? ~ . smiles around, it will be down to business? ,, . , business? i think that is right. this is a huge _ business? i think that is right. this is a huge moment - business? i think that is right. this is a huge moment of - business? i think that is right. - this is a huge moment of political triumph of rishi sunak given that seven weeks ago he looked as if he had been cast into the political wilderness. but my understanding is we will hear from him wilderness. but my understanding is we will hearfrom him in the next ten minutes or so. it will be quite a summer message, that rishi sunak wants to tell the country the difficult economic times that lie ahead. we want to see the usual scenes we have got used to in downing street, where new prime ministers have their supporters out to applaud them. rishi sunak wants to applaud them. rishi sunak wants to portray this as a sombre, serious time, where he is going to take the economic challenges the uk is about to face, extremely seriously. we
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heard him over the summer at great length about some of the fears he had about inflation, some of the fears he had about balancing the books. he has to make political choices now. they are political choices, to potentially cut spending, to potentially increase tax. but what we are going to hear from him, ithink, in the tax. but what we are going to hear from him, i think, in the next few minutes is his outline for power, some optimism, yes, there is always optimism from you prime ministers, but also this message that it is a serious time that needs to be taken seriously. irate serious time that needs to be taken seriousl . ~ . ., ~ serious time that needs to be taken seriousl . ~ . . ,, . seriously. we are talking about the challenges. — seriously. we are talking about the challenges. we _ seriously. we are talking about the challenges, we are _ seriously. we are talking about the challenges, we are talking - seriously. we are talking about the challenges, we are talking about i challenges, we are talking about policy decisions, we are talking about relations between mr sunak and other leaders. we have had a word with are my colleagues in brussels, we spoke earlier to rajini in delhi. yesterday, the first minister in scotland was making the point that she wanted a constructive relationship with mr sunak. bear in mind that during the 49 days of the
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premiership of liz truss, there was no contact between her and the first minister of scotland or wales. i think everybody can agree that that is something that we don't quite expect in terms of a new prime minister coming to power. a new prime minister would be expected to talk to the administrations in edinburgh, cardiff and belfast. clearly there was some tension there. that will probably change. but it remains to be seen to what extent. james short is our olic in glasgow. talking about the kind of prospects for better relations between downing street and mr sunak, and nicola sturgeon's government. what are your thoughts? it is interesting. you mentioned the fact there _ interesting. you mentioned the fact there was— interesting. you mentioned the fact there was no conversation at all between — there was no conversation at all between liz truss and nicola sturgeon. she had actually said, she had warned, that she was going to effectively ignore the first minister of scotland. clearly the
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leading — minister of scotland. clearly the leading political figure in this nation — leading political figure in this nation. and that is exactly what she did. nation. and that is exactly what she did but _ nation. and that is exactly what she did but at — nation. and that is exactly what she did. but at the time rishi sunak said he — did. but at the time rishi sunak said he thought that would be dangerously complacent. and so now, i dangerously complacent. and so now, i guess. _ dangerously complacent. and so now, i guess. we _ dangerously complacent. and so now, i guess, we would expect him to put that into _ i guess, we would expect him to put that into effect. we would expect there _ that into effect. we would expect there to — that into effect. we would expect there to be certainly a different tone _ there to be certainly a different tone to — there to be certainly a different tone to the relationship between the new prime _ tone to the relationship between the new prime minister and the first minister— new prime minister and the first minister of scotland, bearing in mind _ minister of scotland, bearing in mind she — minister of scotland, bearing in mind she has been first minister of scotland _ mind she has been first minister of scotland for eight years. as rishi sunak— scotland for eight years. as rishi sunak arrives, that will be the fifth _ sunak arrives, that will be the fifth prime minister of the uk she will seek— fifth prime minister of the uk she will seek to have a constructive working — will seek to have a constructive working relationship with as she puts it — working relationship with as she puts it. the town could possibly change — puts it. the town could possibly change. perhaps they could be an early _ change. perhaps they could be an early conversation between the two. but the _ early conversation between the two. but the fundamentals are probably not going to change significantly. i think— not going to change significantly. i think it _ not going to change significantly. i think it is — not going to change significantly. i think it is fair to say that rishi sunak— think it is fair to say that rishi sunak is— think it is fair to say that rishi sunak is as _ think it is fair to say that rishi sunak is as opposed to the idea of a
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second _ sunak is as opposed to the idea of a second independence referendum as any of— second independence referendum as any of the _ second independence referendum as any of the other people, the other occupants. — any of the other people, the other occupants, of number 10 downing street— occupants, of number 10 downing street in— occupants, of number 10 downing street in the last few years. —— number— street in the last few years. —— number 10 _ street in the last few years. —— number10. he has described street in the last few years. —— number 10. he has described the idea of a vote _ number 10. he has described the idea of a vote during the cost of living crisis _ of a vote during the cost of living crisis as— of a vote during the cost of living crisis as barmy. so that gives you a sense _ crisis as barmy. so that gives you a sense of— crisis as barmy. so that gives you a sense of how— crisis as barmy. so that gives you a sense of how he sees it. he is also perhaps— sense of how he sees it. he is also perhaps going to be more active in his relationship with scotland. in scrutinising what the scottish government has been doing for the last many— government has been doing for the last many years that it has been in power _ last many years that it has been in power. there is a sense, i think, from _ power. there is a sense, i think, from him — power. there is a sense, i think, from him that they have stayed in power. _ from him that they have stayed in power, that their record has not been _ power, that their record has not been fully— power, that their record has not been fully interrogated. i think that is— been fully interrogated. i think that is one of the things that he will seek— that is one of the things that he will seek to do, in amongst all the other— will seek to do, in amongst all the other huge — will seek to do, in amongst all the other huge tasks that he has on his desk this _ other huge tasks that he has on his desk this morning.— other huge tasks that he has on his desk this morning. james, thank you ve much desk this morning. james, thank you very much for— desk this morning. james, thank you very much for explaining _ desk this morning. james, thank you very much for explaining some - desk this morning. james, thank you very much for explaining some of. desk this morning. james, thank you | very much for explaining some of the dynamics of that relationship to us and how they might or might not change. it is, of course, a crucial
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relationship between downing street and edinburgh and cardiff, in terms of how governments function and the shared responsibilities they have. the way that develops will be watched very closely indeed. we are backin watched very closely indeed. we are back in central london. this is the scene around the queen victoria memorial. we have seen other troopers of the household cavalry, the blues and royals, making their way along constitutional hill back to their headquarters, their barracks in knightsbridge, i suspect, past wellington arch and all of these areas that are very familiar from the day of her majesty's funeral back in september. this was where the london part of the ceremonial came to an end at wellington arch, just beyond buckingham palace there on the right—hand side. it is nowjust past 20 minutes to 12. if that audience
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is still going on, it is a very long audience. i suspect the audience has come to an end. maybe there are just a few officials to be spoken to. and as soon as the current leaves, we will see it because it will come out of the main carriageway, the main carriage gates, past the memorial and along the mile again. that is what i suspect anyway. unless they have an unusual route in mind. we should get a good view of the new prime minister as he leaves buckingham palace, making his way to downing street. i think at the moment we are running about eight minutes later than we were kind of expecting because we thought mr sunak would be here at about 25 to 12. it is now nearly quarter too. it is 43. some eight minutes late. nick eardley is with me. we are both waiting for that moment when the gates of downing street open and when the outriders, with their
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flashing lights, approach. and then we will now be because they liked is there already, the podium is there. we will do exactly what is going on. i suspect we will not have too long to wait. the work on the statement which will be delivered was done, lots of it, yesterday. there we have the images of the new prime minister, rishi sunak, at 42 years of age, the youngest prime minister in the uk since lord liverpool back in the uk since lord liverpool back in 1812. his private secretary and other members of the household. and mr sunak�*s wife accompanies him as well. they are ready to leave the palace and go back to number 10. whether mr sunak�*s wife will be with him when they come here, i'm not sure. we will see. not as far to come as last time, travelling down from aberdeenshire. and it's a fascinating moment, the
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two minutes or so it takes to drive back here, rishi sunak will be thinking about the biggest political speech of his life so far. i'm told he finished it off this morning, such as the pace of the leadership campaign that we did not even know for sure this time yesterday whether rishi sunak was going to be prime minister, but he has this short drive back to downing street now where he has to mull over those words which are going to be so important in defining his premiership. as i say, i expect him to address the seriousness of the economic situation. i don't think it will be so celebrate riaz we have seen is from some prime ministers in recent years. i think he will want to strike a more sombre tone and try to strike a more sombre tone and try to set out what he will pitch as some of the hard decisions coming. so, mr sunak is on the move, leaving the quadrangle at the heart of buckingham palace. the outriders
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leaving the way. the central gates are open, and the new prime minister of the uk is on his way to downing street. some applause from the crowd who have gathered there outside of the palace. the cars making their way around the memorial. and then along the mall. so, the same route they took to come down to the palace earlier, and it is certainly the quickest route and most direct. so, mr sunak making his way to downing street where he will be meeting the cabinet secretary and other senior officials inside downing street will be given a security briefing us soon as he is inside, and then they will sit down to get on with the task of
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forming his government. he will have thought in great detail about who he wants in the mainjobs, so it will be a matter of making contact with some of them and in one or two cases possibly persuading people, and in others, giving them the news that they certainly wanted, and in one or two cases telling people that they are no longer required, so it is a process that can take several hours but i would imagine that it won't be long before we get some of the first and key appointments, and i would have thought, nick, in terms of stability on the markets and all of the rest of it, he might want to be clarifying the role of chancellor fairly quickly. i clarifying the role of chancellor fairly quickly-— fairly quickly. i think that's riuht. fairly quickly. i think that's right- and _ fairly quickly. i think that's right. and my _ fairly quickly. i think that's right. and my assumption | fairly quickly. i think that's. right. and my assumption is fairly quickly. i think that's - right. and my assumption is that jeremy hunt stays as chancellor, not confirmed by mr sunak�*s team, but that has been the assumption in the last 24 hours or so. there may be some other changes in big jobs and rishi sunak has been weighing that “p rishi sunak has been weighing that up this morning. we might see some
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new cabinet ministers walking up this famous streets this afternoon to get into theirjobs because mr sunak wants to do two things. you want some of his allies around the cabinet table but he's also made a big thing about uniting his party and trying to bring in different parts of the conservative party to unite them, to say this is notjust about bringing in people who will be loyal to me but it is about reflecting different views at the top of the conservative party. brute top of the conservative party. we are seeing the approach to downing street and the new prime minister on his way, and will shortly be in downing street. past some of the government offices, the gates have been opened wide and we are expecting rishi sunak to drive into downing street at any moment, and
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when he arrives, he will be ready to make a statement at the podium which has been erected here. so a very familiar route on the gates are now opening. vicki young is watching too, and vicki, underlining the fact that mr sunak has a big speech to deliver. �* . that mr sunak has a big speech to deliver. �* , . . deliver. i've been chatting with --eole in deliver. i've been chatting with people in the _ deliver. i've been chatting with people in the last _ deliver. i've been chatting with people in the last hour- deliver. i've been chatting with people in the last hour or - deliver. i've been chatting with people in the last hour or so i deliver. i've been chatting with people in the last hour or so in j deliver. i've been chatting with - people in the last hour or so in the commons on interesting is the team who will be around him and even those very close to him say he has made no promises to anybody. everyone is in the dark, even those who have spent a lot of time with him over the last few weeks. that's probably a different approach. lots of people thought he might give hints here and there. hermetically sealed, somebody said to me, this process has been, even to the point where penny mordaunt, his rival, has not been offered a specificjob. she
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left it very late to drop out, but lots of those people are saying that thatis lots of those people are saying that that is the right thing to do. he is going to make his decisions about who he wants.— going to make his decisions about who he wants. . who he wants. here is the new prime minister, who he wants. here is the new prime minister. rishi _ who he wants. here is the new prime minister, rishi sunak, _ who he wants. here is the new prime minister, rishi sunak, approaching i minister, rishi sunak, approaching with his opening statement of his premiership. with his opening statement of his premiership-— with his opening statement of his remiershi -. ,., ., ., . premiership. good morning. i have 'ust been premiership. good morning. i have just been to _ premiership. good morning. i have just been to buckingham _ premiership. good morning. i have just been to buckingham palace . premiership. good morning. i have| just been to buckingham palace and accepted his majesty the king's invitation to form a government in his name. it is only right to explain why i am standing here as your new prime minister. right now, our country is facing a profound economic crisis. the aftermath of
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covid still lingers. putin's war in ukraine has destabilised energy markets and supply chains the world over. i want to pay tribute to my predecessor, liz truss. she was not wrong to want to improve growth in this country. it is a noble aim. and i admired her restlessness to create change. but some mistakes were made. not born of ill will or bad intentions. quite the opposite, in fact. but mistakes, nonetheless. and i have been elected as leader of my party and your prime minister, in party and your prime minister, in part to fix them. and that work begins immediately. i will place
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economic stability and confidence at the heart of this government's agenda. this will mean difficult decisions to come. but you saw me during covid doing everything i could to protect people, and businesses, with schemes like furlough. there are always limits. more so now than ever. but i promise you this, i will bring that same compassion to the challenges we face today. the government i lead will not leave the next generation, your children and grandchildren, with a debt to settle that we were too weak to pay ourselves. i will unite our country, not with words, but with
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action. i will work day in and day out to deliverfor you. action. i will work day in and day out to deliver for you. this government will have integrity, professionalism, and accountability at every level. trust is earned, and i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to borisjohnson i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to boris johnson for i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to borisjohnson for his incredible achievements as pro—minister, and i treasure his warmth and generosity of spirit —— prime minister. and i know that he would agree that the mandate my party earned in 2019 is not the sole property of any one individual. it is a mandate that belongs to and unites all of us. and the heart of
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that mandate is our manifesto. i will deliver on its promise a strong nhs, betterschools, will deliver on its promise a strong nhs, better schools, safer streets, control of our borders, protecting our environment, supporting our armed forces, levelling up and building an economy that embraces the opportunities of brexit, where businesses invest, innovate and create jobs. businesses invest, innovate and createjobs. i understand how difficult this moment is. after the billions of pounds it cost us to combat covid, after all the dislocation that caused in the midst of a terrible war that must be seen
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successfully to its conclusions, i fully appreciate how hard things are. and i understand too that i have work to do to restore trust after all that has happened. all i can say is that i am not daunted. i know the high office i have accepted, and i hope i live up to its demands. but when the opportunity to serve comes along, you cannot question the moment, only your willingness. so i stand here before you ready to lead our country into the future, to put your needs above politics, to reach out and build a government that represents the very best traditions of my
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party. together we can achieve incredible things. we will create a future worthy of the sacrifices so many have made and feel tomorrow and every day there after with hope. thank you. so, the statement by mr sunak, saying he is not daunted by the enormous task ahead of him. he is now posing for the traditional photo on the threshold of power, on the threshold of number 10 downing street, prime minister and first lord of the treasury at the age of 42, the youngest prime minister in the uk for 200 years and the first british asian to achieve the highest
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office. his statement was one of confidence, one of determination, and insisting that he does understand the pressure that people are feeling at the moment. he enters number ten as pro—minister with a big —— prime minister with a number ten as pro—minister with a big -- prime minister with a big round of applause from civil servants and advisers, in that traditional role, lining the corridors of the cabinet room to greet the new prime minister. nick is still with me. what did you make of the statement?— is still with me. what did you make of the statement? never before have we seen a prime _ of the statement? never before have we seen a prime minister _ of the statement? never before have we seen a prime minister arrive - of the statement? never before have we seen a prime minister arrive and i we seen a prime minister arrive and seek to so quickly draw a line under their predecessor's rain. it was clear that rishi sunak wanted to say
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that liz truss got some serious things wrong and i am determined to fix them. it was very open about what he thinks the economic challenges coming are, some of the phrases are used, about a profound economic challenge and i thought he tried to address the complaint we will get a lot from opposition parties and some of his own mps about his mandate. because he said quite clearly there that he believes the 2019 mandate that the conservative got belong to everyone, notjust conservative got belong to everyone, not just to conservative got belong to everyone, notjust to boris conservative got belong to everyone, not just to boris johnson, conservative got belong to everyone, notjust to borisjohnson, and he is trying to say, i am going to deliver what we promise at that election. but also from the new prime minister a flavour of how difficult he thinks things are going to be, talking about how hard the economic picture is, by the difficult decision to come and i think setting up that economic statement next week which is going to see spending cuts and tax rises. brute
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is going to see spending cuts and tax rises. ~ . tax rises. we are here in downing street and — tax rises. we are here in downing street and we _ tax rises. we are here in downing street and we just _ tax rises. we are here in downing street and we just had _ tax rises. we are here in downing street and we just had the - tax rises. we are here in downing - street and we just had the statement from rishi sunak, the uk's new prime minister. the worlds media are gathered, and everyone snapping away with their cameras and listening to every single word of that. and among the crowd, chris mason, and with us our political editor, and from your point of view, what are the things he underlined in that statement that were, for you, the most telling, the most significant in terms of his intentions? four may, the most significant thing before _ four may, the most significant thing before we _ four may, the most significant thing before we look at the language was his tongue. so striking in contrast with what— his tongue. so striking in contrast with what came before. there was not the defiance _ with what came before. there was not the defiance that we heard from liz truss _ the defiance that we heard from liz truss in _ the defiance that we heard from liz truss in her— the defiance that we heard from liz truss in her departing address. instead. — truss in her departing address. instead. in _ truss in her departing address. instead, in the language that he chose _ instead, in the language that he chose in — instead, in the language that he chose in those opening few words, a recognition — chose in those opening few words, a recognition of the economic climate, recognition _ recognition of the economic climate, recognition too, a knowing recognition, that so many in the
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country— recognition, that so many in the country have looked in at what has been _ country have looked in at what has been going — country have looked in at what has been going on here in the past five or six— been going on here in the past five or six weeks, in despair at the chaos— or six weeks, in despair at the chaos that _ or six weeks, in despair at the chaos that has unfolded within government. that has had profound consequences for the popularity of the conservative party. but more important — the conservative party. but more important than that, for so many people's— important than that, for so many people's concerns about their own economic— people's concerns about their own economic welfare, their own mortgages, their own capacity to look in _ mortgages, their own capacity to look in on — mortgages, their own capacity to look in on government and think that it has— look in on government and think that it has aids _ look in on government and think that it has aids interest at heart and knows — it has aids interest at heart and knows what it is doing. so i think tone _ knows what it is doing. so i think tone was— knows what it is doing. so i think tone was really important from the new prime — tone was really important from the new prime minister. but then also, delivered _ new prime minister. but then also, delivered in— new prime minister. but then also, delivered in his own way his own brand _ delivered in his own way his own brand of— delivered in his own way his own brand of defiance. as nick was reflecting on there, a determination to, reflecting on there, a determination to. yes. _ reflecting on there, a determination to. yes. say— reflecting on there, a determination to, yes, say that he would try to deliver— to, yes, say that he would try to deliver the — to, yes, say that he would try to deliver the 2019 election manifesto, the basis _ deliver the 2019 election manifesto, the basis for the conservative maiority — the basis for the conservative majority in parliament, but also directly — majority in parliament, but also directly detach the idea that that was boris — directly detach the idea that that was borisjohnson's mandate, and instead _ was borisjohnson's mandate, and instead say, look, this is a
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conservative mandate and i am the new head _ conservative mandate and i am the new head of the shop. that was very explicit _ new head of the shop. that was very explicit in _ new head of the shop. that was very explicit in the way that he said that _ explicit in the way that he said that so — explicit in the way that he said that. so he didn't say explicitly the way — that. so he didn't say explicitly the way that he had yesterday in his address— the way that he had yesterday in his address to _ the way that he had yesterday in his address to conservative mps that they wouldn't be an election any time _ they wouldn't be an election any time soon — they wouldn't be an election any time soon. but he said it without having _ time soon. but he said it without having to — time soon. but he said it without having to use that language. he says constitutionally, look, i have legitimacy. but there was also, i thought. — legitimacy. but there was also, i thought, in his references to his own political biography, not least the furlough scheme and its role as chancellor — the furlough scheme and its role as chancellor during the pandemic, of him introducing himself to the country — him introducing himself to the country. not unreasonably, plenty of people _ country. not unreasonably, plenty of people during the summer may not have paid _ people during the summer may not have paid all that much attention to the conservative party leadership race. _ the conservative party leadership race. not — the conservative party leadership race, not least because people had better— race, not least because people had better things to do, but because he was runner—up for so much of that, the expected runner up for so much of that— the expected runner up for so much of that contest. people were more likely— of that contest. people were more likely to _ of that contest. people were more likely to be paying attention to the likely— likely to be paying attention to the likely new prime minister at the time _ likely new prime minister at the time in — likely new prime minister at the time in li2— likely new prime minister at the time in liz truss. we saw at the time. _ time in liz truss. we saw at the time. and — time in liz truss. we saw at the time, and we will see it in the coming — time, and we will see it in the coming days, a sense of him introducing himself to the country
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because _ introducing himself to the country because not unreasonably people might— because not unreasonably people might look in on proceedings this morning — might look in on proceedings this morning and ask questions about who he is and _ morning and ask questions about who he is and what his priorities will be and — he is and what his priorities will be and what his style will be. tonally. _ be and what his style will be. tonally. i— be and what his style will be. tonally, i thought of that style was so markedly different from either his immediate predecessor, or the predecessor before borisjohnson. it predecessor before borisjohnson. [it was predecessor before borisjohnson. was very predecessor before borisjohnson. it was very different from the style yesterday? it was very different from the style yesterday?— was very different from the style esterda ? . , . , . , yesterday? it was, it was. he was readin: yesterday? it was, it was. he was reading from _ yesterday? it was, it was. he was reading from paper _ yesterday? it was, it was. he was reading from paper as _ yesterday? it was, it was. he was reading from paper as opposed i yesterday? it was, it was. he was reading from paper as opposed to yesterday? it was, it was. he was i reading from paper as opposed to an autocue. _ reading from paper as opposed to an autocue, perhaps something in that. no doubt _ autocue, perhaps something in that. no doubt he will have picked up on some _ no doubt he will have picked up on some of— no doubt he will have picked up on some of the criticisms made on his own side _ some of the criticisms made on his own side about the nature of his delivery— own side about the nature of his delivery in — own side about the nature of his delivery in front of the camera yesterday. it felt more authentically him and he felt and sounded — authentically him and he felt and sounded much more comfortable, and much _ sounded much more comfortable, and much more _ sounded much more comfortable, and much more natural. again, a human level— much more natural. again, a human level we _ much more natural. again, a human level we should reflect it is only five days — level we should reflect it is only five days ago that liz truss was here _ five days ago that liz truss was here in — five days ago that liz truss was here in front of her own lectern her resignation — here in front of her own lectern her resignation. so this has been politics— resignation. so this has been politics on a new kind of fast forward. _ politics on a new kind of fast forward, even compared to what we talked _ forward, even compared to what we talked about in recent weeks, that he had _ talked about in recent weeks, that
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he had to— talked about in recent weeks, that he had to decide whether he was going _ he had to decide whether he was going to — he had to decide whether he was going to stand, what is pitch would be, going to stand, what is pitch would be. speak— going to stand, what is pitch would be, speak to hundreds of conservative mps to try to persuade them. _ conservative mps to try to persuade them. and _ conservative mps to try to persuade them, and then in the blink of an eye. _ them, and then in the blink of an eye. decide — them, and then in the blink of an eye, decide what is opening pitch to the country— eye, decide what is opening pitch to the country would be, all in the space _ the country would be, all in the space of— the country would be, all in the space of less than a week. | the country would be, all in the space of less than a week. i think we can see _ space of less than a week. i think we can see a _ space of less than a week. i think we can see a comment _ space of less than a week. i think we can see a comment from - space of less than a week. i think| we can see a comment from boris johnson here we are. "congratulations to rishi sunak on this historic day..." this historic day. that this historic day..." that is a generous message from borisjohnson. as i am sure he would see it. given that the prime minister, actually, was making some rather generous comments about mr johnson as well. a bit of mutual backslapping going on? fries. backslapping going on? yes, generosity — backslapping going on? yes, generosity does _ backslapping going on? yes, generosity does tend - backslapping going on? yes, generosity does tend to - backslapping going on? yes, generosity does tend to spring out at times— generosity does tend to spring out at times like this between political and former political leaders. boris johnson _ and former political leaders. boris johnson bashed out a similar tweet seven— johnson bashed out a similar tweet seven weeks ago when liz truss began. _ seven weeks ago when liz truss began, suggesting the party should offer her— began, suggesting the party should offer her 100% support. it didn't
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quite _ offer her 100% support. it didn't quite turn — offer her 100% support. it didn't quite turn out that way. we know of the tensions that have existed between — the tensions that have existed between rishi sunak and boris johnson — between rishi sunak and boris johnson. of course, rishi sunak's resignation — johnson. of course, rishi sunak's resignation one of those things that brought— resignation one of those things that brought about the end of the boris johnson _ brought about the end of the boris johnson europe. mr sunak has always warned _ johnson europe. mr sunak has always warned quite heavily the accusation that he _ warned quite heavily the accusation that he was a political backstabber. he reached the point where he couldn't— he reached the point where he couldn't defend the boris johnson administration any more, in his view _ administration any more, in his view there _ administration any more, in his view. there is no doubt that perception because mr sunak damage in the _ perception because mr sunak damage in the race _ perception because mr sunak damage in the race against liz truss during the summer. in the race against liz truss during the summer-— in the race against liz truss during the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate, the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate. l— the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate. i am _ the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate, i am fascinated - the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate, i am fascinated by - the summer. chris, in terms of the mandate, i am fascinated by this i mandate, i am fascinated by this point. you have had lots of people saying, and we will be talking to anneliese dodds from labour magennis i can, people making a case for a general election, people making the case for millions of voters having a say in who the prime minister is, and it's interesting that today the
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attack was different. he wanted to talk about the validity of the mandate for the party and the party's representatives at pa rty�*s representatives at westminster party's representatives at westminster who, as he put it, happen to have chosen him now to lead them to become prime minister, and distance quick to distance himself from the argument. will that argument be enough for him to stave off the increasing demands that are there an election? 50. off the increasing demands that are there an election?— there an election? so, to the extent, there an election? so, to the extent. to — there an election? so, to the extent, to address _ there an election? so, to the extent, to address your - there an election? so, to the j extent, to address your point directly. _ extent, to address your point directly, and what you were reflecting on, he holds the power. he and _ reflecting on, he holds the power. he and or— reflecting on, he holds the power. he and or a — reflecting on, he holds the power. he and or a majority of parliament hold the _ he and or a majority of parliament hold the power of bringing a parliament to a premature conclusion, and bringing about a general— conclusion, and bringing about a general election. so you're going to hear the _ general election. so you're going to hear the clamour from opposition parties. _ hear the clamour from opposition parties, not least because so many of our— parties, not least because so many of our opposition parties at westminster are very competitive. look at— westminster are very competitive. look at where labour are in the opinion— look at where labour are in the opinion polls. looking at the revival— opinion polls. looking at the revival of— opinion polls. looking at the revival of the liberal democrats and the snp _ revival of the liberal democrats and the snp in _ revival of the liberal democrats and the snp in scotland. and the conservative opinion polls are at
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incredibly— conservative opinion polls are at incredibly low levels by any modern comparison. they will continue to make _ comparison. they will continue to make that — comparison. they will continue to make that argument. they have, of course. _ make that argument. they have, of course, politicalargument make that argument. they have, of course, political argument is because _ course, political argument is because they can say, hang on, the conservatives were elected under a prime _ conservatives were elected under a prime minister, not even the last one. _ prime minister, not even the last one. the — prime minister, not even the last one, the one before that. but we should _ one, the one before that. but we should make the point you only have to look— should make the point you only have to look to _ should make the point you only have to look to recent history, gordon brown _ to look to recent history, gordon brown became prime minister through an election. _ brown became prime minister through an election, so did theresa may, so did boris— an election, so did theresa may, so did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so _ did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so did — did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and boris _ and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and borisjohnson both and fought elections — and borisjohnson both and fought elections and won. the others didn't~ — elections and won. the others didn't. there is plenty of modern presidents — didn't. there is plenty of modern presidents were offices resumed between — presidents were offices resumed between elections. that does not mean _ between elections. that does not mean they do not face big legitimacy guestions~ _ mean they do not face big legitimacy questions. rishi sunak knows that. that is— questions. rishi sunak knows that. that is why— questions. rishi sunak knows that. that is why he sought to address it. i want to bring in anneliese dodds, the shadow chancellor, now a member of the shadow cabinet. good of you
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to talk to us. sorry to have kept you waiting. can we tackle the legitimacy questions straightaway? so many of your colleagues have been really underlining this point. what is your answer to the new prime minister's case to date that the mandate is his party's mandate, and therefore there is no question about therefore there is no question about the need for an election? ierul’eii. the need for an election? well, that's wrong. — the need for an election? well, that's wrong, because - the need for an election? well, that's wrong, because rishi - the need for an election? well, i that's wrong, because rishi sunak the need for an election? well, that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he _ that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he is— that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he is the _ that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he is the answer— that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he is the answer when - that's wrong, because rishi sunak is saying he is the answer when the - saying he is the answer when the problem. — saying he is the answer when the problem, ultimately, _ saying he is the answer when the problem, ultimately, is- saying he is the answer when the problem, ultimately, is the - problem, ultimately, is the conservatives. _ problem, ultimately, is the conservatives. i— problem, ultimately, is the conservatives. i mean, - problem, ultimately, is the| conservatives. i mean, rishi problem, ultimately, is the - conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been _ conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part— conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part of— conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part of that _ conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part of that 12— conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part of that 12 years - conservatives. i mean, rishi sunak has been part of that 12 years of. has been part of that 12 years of conservative _ has been part of that 12 years of conservative failure. _ has been part of that 12 years of conservative failure. and - has been part of that 12 years of| conservative failure. and people has been part of that 12 years of - conservative failure. and people did not vote _ conservative failure. and people did not vote at— conservative failure. and people did not vote at the — conservative failure. and people did not vote at the last _ conservative failure. and people did not vote at the last election - conservative failure. and people did not vote at the last election for- conservative failure. and people did not vote at the last election for a . not vote at the last election for a hi-h not vote at the last election for a high tax. — not vote at the last election for a high tax. low— not vote at the last election for a high tax, low growth _ not vote at the last election for a high tax, low growth economy. l not vote at the last election for a i high tax, low growth economy. but not vote at the last election for a - high tax, low growth economy. but of course _ high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi _ high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi sunak— high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi sunak was _ high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi sunak was right- high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi sunak was right at - high tax, low growth economy. but of course rishi sunak was right at the i course rishi sunak was right at the heart _ course rishi sunak was right at the heart of— course rishi sunak was right at the heart of that — course rishi sunak was right at the heart of that. so, _ course rishi sunak was right at the heart of that. so, we _ course rishi sunak was right at the heart of that. so, we are _ course rishi sunak was right at the heart of that. so, we are not- course rishi sunak was right at the| heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change — heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change is — heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change is needed _ heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change is needed for— heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change is needed for a - heart of that. so, we are not seeing the change is needed for a country. the change is needed for a country with his _ the change is needed for a country with his coronation _ the change is needed for a country with his coronation of _ the change is needed for a country with his coronation of rishi - the change is needed for a country with his coronation of rishi sunak.j with his coronation of rishi sunak. quite _ with his coronation of rishi sunak. quite the — with his coronation of rishi sunak. quite the opposite. _ with his coronation of rishi sunak. quite the opposite. he _ with his coronation of rishi sunak. quite the opposite. he doesn't- with his coronation of rishi sunak. i quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate — quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate and _ quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate. and we _ quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate. and we need _ quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate. and we need a - quite the opposite. he doesn't have a mandate. and we need a fresh- quite the opposite. he doesn't have i a mandate. and we need a fresh start with a _ a mandate. and we need a fresh start with a general— a mandate. and we need a fresh start with a general election. _ a mandate. and we need a fresh start with a general election. 50 _ a mandate. and we need a fresh start with a general election.— with a general election. so let me 'ust be with a general election. so let me
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just be blunt- _ with a general election. so let me just be blunt. you _ with a general election. so let me just be blunt. you are _ with a general election. so let me just be blunt. you are not - with a general election. so let me just be blunt. you are not likely i with a general election. so let me| just be blunt. you are not likely to get a general election, even if you make the case repeatedly. it is very unlikely to happen. that then brings us to another question, which is, how do you then take the fight as an opposition? you are doing very well in the polls at the moment. how do you maintain that now that you have a new figure who will want to portray himself as a new start? well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not _ well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not a _ well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not a new— well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not a new start. _ well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not a new start. he _ well, ultimately, of course, sunak is not a new start. he has - well, ultimately, of course, sunak| is not a new start. he has presided over that _ is not a new start. he has presided over that economic— is not a new start. he has presided over that economic failure. - is not a new start. he has presided over that economic failure. he - is not a new start. he has presided over that economic failure. he has| over that economic failure. he has been _ over that economic failure. he has been right— over that economic failure. he has been right at— over that economic failure. he has been right at the _ over that economic failure. he has been right at the heart _ over that economic failure. he has been right at the heart of- over that economic failure. he has been right at the heart of those i been right at the heart of those failing — been right at the heart of those failing conservative _ been right at the heart of those. failing conservative government. been right at the heart of those - failing conservative government. it is hard _ failing conservative government. it is hard working _ failing conservative government. it is hard working people _ failing conservative government. it is hard working people who - failing conservative government. it is hard working people who are - is hard working people who are paying — is hard working people who are paying the _ is hard working people who are paying the price _ is hard working people who are paying the price. many- is hard working people who are paying the price. many peoplel paying the price. many people looking — paying the price. many people looking towards _ paying the price. many people looking towards monday, - paying the price. many people| looking towards monday, what paying the price. many people - looking towards monday, what seems to be setting — looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up — looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up as— looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up as a _ looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up as a real— looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up as a real kind - looking towards monday, what seems to be setting up as a real kind of- to be setting up as a real kind of halloween— to be setting up as a real kind of halloween horror— to be setting up as a real kind of halloween horror short- to be setting up as a real kind of halloween horror short of- to be setting up as a real kind of halloween horror short of a - to be setting up as a real kind ofi halloween horror short of a fiscal statement — halloween horror short of a fiscal statement likely _ halloween horror short of a fiscal statement likely to _ halloween horror short of a fiscal statement likely to be _ halloween horror short of a fiscal statement likely to be coming. halloween horror short of a fiscal i statement likely to be coming from the conservatives. _ statement likely to be coming from the conservatives. —— _ statement likely to be coming from the conservatives. —— show. - statement likely to be coming from the conservatives. —— show. they. statement likely to be coming from i the conservatives. —— show. they are worried _ the conservatives. —— show. they are worried about — the conservatives. —— show. they are worried about their— the conservatives. —— show. they are worried about their mortgages, - the conservatives. —— show. they are worried about their mortgages, the i worried about their mortgages, the rising _ worried about their mortgages, the rising cost— worried about their mortgages, the rising cost of— worried about their mortgages, the rising cost of living. _ worried about their mortgages, the rising cost of living. that _ worried about their mortgages, the rising cost of living. that didn't - rising cost of living. that didn't 'ust rising cost of living. that didn't just happen _ rising cost of living. that didn't just happen yesterday. - rising cost of living. that didn't just happen yesterday. that. rising cost of living. that didn'tl just happen yesterday. that has rising cost of living. that didn't - just happen yesterday. that has been built up— just happen yesterday. that has been built up over—
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just happen yesterday. that has been built up over those _ just happen yesterday. that has been built up over those 12 _ just happen yesterday. that has been built up over those 12 years _ just happen yesterday. that has been built up over those 12 years of - built up over those 12 years of conservative _ built up over those 12 years of conservative failure. - built up over those 12 years of conservative failure. rishi - built up over those 12 years of. conservative failure. rishi sunak has been — conservative failure. rishi sunak has been at _ conservative failure. rishi sunak has been at the _ conservative failure. rishi sunak has been at the heart _ conservative failure. rishi sunak has been at the heart of - conservative failure. rishi sunak has been at the heart of it. - conservative failure. rishi sunaki has been at the heart of it. labour is setting — has been at the heart of it. labour is setting out _ has been at the heart of it. labour is setting out something _ has been at the heart of it. labour is setting out something very- is setting out something very different— is setting out something very different to _ is setting out something very different to what _ is setting out something very different to what rishi - is setting out something very different to what rishi sunak| is setting out something very. different to what rishi sunak is talking — different to what rishi sunak is talking about _ different to what rishi sunak is talking about. i— different to what rishi sunak is talking about. i know _ different to what rishi sunak is talking about. i know he - different to what rishi sunak is talking about. i know he didn't| different to what rishi sunak is i talking about. i know he didn't set out any— talking about. i know he didn't set out any proposals _ talking about. i know he didn't set out any proposals in _ talking about. i know he didn't set out any proposals in his _ talking about. i know he didn't set out any proposals in his speech i talking about. i know he didn't set out any proposals in his speech to| out any proposals in his speech to attend _ out any proposals in his speech to attend the — out any proposals in his speech to attend the growth _ out any proposals in his speech to attend the growth we _ out any proposals in his speech to attend the growth we need - out any proposals in his speech to attend the growth we need is- out any proposals in his speech to attend the growth we need is a i attend the growth we need is a country — attend the growth we need is a country. labour— attend the growth we need is a country. labour set— attend the growth we need is a country. labour set out - attend the growth we need is a country. labour set out our- attend the growth we need is a . country. labour set out our green prosperity— country. labour set out our green prosperity plan. — country. labour set out our green prosperity plan. really— country. labour set out our green prosperity plan. really clear - prosperity plan. really clear measures _ prosperity plan. really clear measures we _ prosperity plan. really clear measures we should - prosperity plan. really clear measures we should be - prosperity plan. really clear i measures we should be taking prosperity plan. really clear - measures we should be taking right now to _ measures we should be taking right now to get — measures we should be taking right now to get growth _ measures we should be taking right now to get growth going _ measures we should be taking right now to get growth going again - measures we should be taking right now to get growth going again in i measures we should be taking rightl now to get growth going again in our country. _ now to get growth going again in our country. up — now to get growth going again in our country. up and _ now to get growth going again in our country, up and down _ now to get growth going again in our country, up and down the _ now to get growth going again in our country, up and down the country, i country, up and down the country, generate _ country, up and down the country, generate the — country, up and down the country, generate the jobs— country, up and down the country, generate the jobs we _ country, up and down the country, generate the jobs we need - country, up and down the country, generate the jobs we need and - country, up and down the country, i generate the jobs we need and have the energy— generate the jobs we need and have the energy security _ generate the jobs we need and have the energy security we _ generate the jobs we need and have the energy security we need - generate the jobs we need and have the energy security we need to - generate the jobs we need and have the energy security we need to get i the energy security we need to get people's— the energy security we need to get people's bills — the energy security we need to get people's bills down. _ the energy security we need to get people's bills down. we _ the energy security we need to get people's bills down. we did - the energy security we need to get people's bills down. we did not. the energy security we need to geti people's bills down. we did not see any content — people's bills down. we did not see any content from _ people's bills down. we did not see any content from rishi _ people's bills down. we did not see any content from rishi sunak and i people's bills down. we did not see. any content from rishi sunak and we are going _ any content from rishi sunak and we are going to— any content from rishi sunak and we are going to be— any content from rishi sunak and we are going to be pushing _ any content from rishi sunak and we are going to be pushing very- any content from rishi sunak and we are going to be pushing very hard - are going to be pushing very hard for that— are going to be pushing very hard for that because _ are going to be pushing very hard for that because ultimately- are going to be pushing very hard for that because ultimately that i are going to be pushing very hard| for that because ultimately that is what would — for that because ultimately that is what would make _ for that because ultimately that is what would make the _ for that because ultimately that is what would make the difference i for that because ultimately that isi what would make the difference to ordinary— what would make the difference to ordinary people _ what would make the difference to ordinary people-— ordinary people. there is meant to be this fiscal _ ordinary people. there is meant to be this fiscal statement _ ordinary people. there is meant to be this fiscal statement by - ordinary people. there is meant to be this fiscal statement by the - be this fiscal statement by the chancellor next week, next monday. do you think that should still go ahead? or do you think there should be a rethink of some of the elements that we have been familiar with so far, to give the government, maybe
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this government under rishi sunak, more time to think about how they repair some of the damage of the past few weeks?— repair some of the damage of the past few weeks? well, labour have set out measures _ past few weeks? well, labour have set out measures that _ past few weeks? well, labour have set out measures that could - past few weeks? well, labour have set out measures that could be - past few weeks? well, labour have i set out measures that could be taken i’i l ht set out measures that could be taken right now _ set out measures that could be taken right now and — set out measures that could be taken right now and the _ set out measures that could be taken right now and the government - set out measures that could be taken| right now and the government should listen _ right now and the government should listen to— right now and the government should listen to what — right now and the government should listen to what labour— right now and the government should listen to what labour has _ right now and the government should listen to what labour has set - right now and the government should listen to what labour has set out. - listen to what labour has set out. for example. _ listen to what labour has set out. for example. a _ listen to what labour has set out. for example, a round _ listen to what labour has set out. for example, a round windfall- listen to what labour has set out. | for example, a round windfall tax. of course, — for example, a round windfall tax. of course, rishi _ for example, a round windfall tax. of course, rishi sunak _ for example, a round windfall tax. of course, rishi sunak only, - for example, a round windfall tax. of course, rishi sunak only, afterl of course, rishi sunak only, after many, _ of course, rishi sunak only, after many. many— of course, rishi sunak only, after many, many months _ of course, rishi sunak only, after many, many months of _ of course, rishi sunak only, after many, many months of lobbying, | of course, rishi sunak only, after. many, many months of lobbying, not 'ust many, many months of lobbying, not just from _ many, many months of lobbying, not just from labour _ many, many months of lobbying, not just from labour to, _ many, many months of lobbying, not just from labour to, but _ many, many months of lobbying, not just from labour to, but also - many, many months of lobbying, not just from labour to, but also for- just from labour to, but also for many— just from labour to, but also for many different— just from labour to, but also for many different organisations i many different organisations representing _ many different organisations representing ordinary- many different organisations . representing ordinary families, many different organisations - representing ordinary families, also from businesses. _ representing ordinary families, also from businesses, eventually- representing ordinary families, also from businesses, eventually sunakl from businesses, eventually sunak put a _ from businesses, eventually sunak put a version — from businesses, eventually sunak put a version of _ from businesses, eventually sunak put a version of the _ from businesses, eventually sunak put a version of the windfall- from businesses, eventually sunak put a version of the windfall tax . from businesses, eventually sunak put a version of the windfall tax onj put a version of the windfall tax on the books, — put a version of the windfall tax on the books, but _ put a version of the windfall tax on the books, but one _ put a version of the windfall tax on the books, but one riddled - put a version of the windfall tax on the books, but one riddled with. the books, but one riddled with holes _ the books, but one riddled with holes and — the books, but one riddled with holes and one _ the books, but one riddled with holes and one that _ the books, but one riddled with holes and one that has - the books, but one riddled with holes and one that has not - holes and one that has not ultimately— holes and one that has not ultimately been _ holes and one that has not ultimately been ensuring l holes and one that has not i ultimately been ensuring that holes and one that has not - ultimately been ensuring that the cost of— ultimately been ensuring that the cost of energy— ultimately been ensuring that the cost of energy and _ ultimately been ensuring that the cost of energy and the _ ultimately been ensuring that the cost of energy and the future - ultimately been ensuring that the cost of energy and the future forl cost of energy and the future for tamiiies— cost of energy and the future for families will— cost of energy and the future for families will be _ cost of energy and the future for families will be kept _ cost of energy and the future for families will be kept down. - cost of energy and the future for families will be kept down. so . cost of energy and the future fori families will be kept down. so he could _ families will be kept down. so he could and — families will be kept down. so he could and should _ families will be kept down. so he could and should be _ families will be kept down. so he could and should be taking - families will be kept down. so he - could and should be taking measures ri-ht could and should be taking measures right now. _ could and should be taking measures right now. again. _ could and should be taking measures right now, again, those _ could and should be taking measures right now, again, those measures . could and should be taking measures right now, again, those measures to| right now, again, those measures to promote _ right now, again, those measures to promote growth _ right now, again, those measures to promote growth of _ right now, again, those measures to promote growth of that _ right now, again, those measures to promote growth of that labour - right now, again, those measures to promote growth of that labour it - right now, again, those measures to promote growth of that labour it set| promote growth of that labour it set out in _ promote growth of that labour it set out in our— promote growth of that labour it set out in our green _ promote growth of that labour it set out in our green prosperity- promote growth of that labour it set out in our green prosperity pack. . promote growth of that labour it set out in our green prosperity pack. i. out in our green prosperity pack. i didnt— out in our green prosperity pack. i didn't see — out in our green prosperity pack. i didn't see any— out in our green prosperity pack. i didn't see any indication— out in our green prosperity pack. i didn't see any indication in- out in our green prosperity pack. i didn't see any indication in his - didn't see any indication in his comments _ didn't see any indication in his comments right— didn't see any indication in his comments right now- didn't see any indication in his comments right now that - didn't see any indication in his comments right now that he l didn't see any indication in his| comments right now that he is didn't see any indication in his - comments right now that he is going to be _
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comments right now that he is going to be setting — comments right now that he is going to be setting out _ comments right now that he is going to be setting out those _ comments right now that he is going to be setting out those concrete - to be setting out those concrete plans _ to be setting out those concrete plans in — to be setting out those concrete plans. in fact, _ to be setting out those concrete plans. in fact, we _ to be setting out those concrete plans. in fact, we are _ to be setting out those concrete plans. in fact, we are seeing - to be setting out those concrete plans. in fact, we are seeing a l plans. in fact, we are seeing a country— plans. in fact, we are seeing a country going _ plans. in fact, we are seeing a country going in— plans. in fact, we are seeing a country going in the _ plans. in fact, we are seeing a country going in the wrong - plans. in fact, we are seeing a - country going in the wrong direction under— country going in the wrong direction under the _ country going in the wrong direction under the conservatives, _ country going in the wrong direction under the conservatives, towards. under the conservatives, towards that high— under the conservatives, towards that high tax. _ under the conservatives, towards that high tax, low— under the conservatives, towards that high tax, low growth - under the conservatives, towards. that high tax, low growth economy. sunak— that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has— that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has been— that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has been at— that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has been at the _ that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has been at the heart - that high tax, low growth economy. sunak has been at the heart of- that high tax, low growth economy. | sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese _ sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese dodds, _ sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese dodds, good _ sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese dodds, good of— sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese dodds, good of you - sunak has been at the heart of that. anneliese dodds, good of you to- sunak has been at the heart of that. l anneliese dodds, good of you tojoin us. thank you very much. no doubt we will hear more from you in the days to come. anneliese dodds from labour. nick eardley and chris mason still with me. i should correct one thing. earlierwhen still with me. i should correct one thing. earlier when we saw mr sunak arriving at downing street accompanied by, it now turns out a female colleague, parliamentary private secretary. if akshata murty is watching, i'm sorry! we couldn't see the image clearly enough. at least we have cleared that up. interestingly, of course, mr sunak decided he would enter downing street alone and with no family? yes, and i think that speaks to a part of— yes, and i think that speaks to a part of the — yes, and i think that speaks to a part of the image he is actually keen— part of the image he is actually keen to — part of the image he is actually keen to project today. he did not want _ keen to project today. he did not want this— keen to project today. he did not
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want this to be seen as a moment of personal— want this to be seen as a moment of personal triumph, although of course it is. personal triumph, although of course it is this— personal triumph, although of course it is. this wasn't a moment to have the family— it is. this wasn't a moment to have the family intel. this was a businesslike address from the very moment— businesslike address from the very moment he arrived. quite strikingly, as i moment he arrived. quite strikingly, as i was— moment he arrived. quite strikingly, as i was watching him on the step posing _ as i was watching him on the step posing for— as i was watching him on the step posing for the photographers, they were very— posing for the photographers, they were very keen to get him to smile, not unreasonable. i think he was reluctant— not unreasonable. i think he was reluctant to do that. i think he recognises, he said this yesterday to conservative mps, his words, not mine, _ to conservative mps, his words, not mine, that _ to conservative mps, his words, not mine, that the country has faced an economic— mine, that the country has faced an economic and political crisis a political— economic and political crisis a political crisis is somewhat brought about— political crisis is somewhat brought about by— political crisis is somewhat brought about by his own party under his predecessor and an economic crisis that she _ predecessor and an economic crisis that she inherited and did her best to try— that she inherited and did her best to try and — that she inherited and did her best to try and grapple with. and which he now— to try and grapple with. and which he now inherits. i think it is not unreasonable to assume in these situations— unreasonable to assume in these situations the new prime minister may have — situations the new prime minister may have a — situations the new prime minister may have a spouse in tow but it speaks — may have a spouse in tow but it speaks to — may have a spouse in tow but it speaks to an intention on his part to protect — speaks to an intention on his part to protect their very particular image, — to protect their very particular image, knowing these images will be
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shared _ image, knowing these images will be shared globally, and knowing that whether— shared globally, and knowing that whether it is the financial markets a few _ whether it is the financial markets a few miles away in the city, or around — a few miles away in the city, or around the _ a few miles away in the city, or around the world, brand britain on the global— around the world, brand britain on the global stage which has taken a battering _ the global stage which has taken a battering in the last couple of weeks — battering in the last couple of weeks. these are the images that will be _ weeks. these are the images that will be shared and projecting that sense _ will be shared and projecting that sense of— will be shared and projecting that sense of a — will be shared and projecting that sense of a businesslike sense of purpose — sense of a businesslike sense of purpose really important.- purpose really important. brand britain of course _ purpose really important. brand britain of course depends - purpose really important. brand britain of course depends on - britain of course depends on partly the people who represent us and in these great offices. you are both going to hate me now, your nomination for chancellor is? jeremy hunt. nomination for chancellor is? jeremy hunt. ., ., nomination for chancellor is? jeremy hunt. ., ,, . ., , ., nomination for chancellor is? jeremy hunt. ., ,, . ., ., hunt. home secretary? it is a harder cuestion. hunt. home secretary? it is a harder question- maybe _ hunt. home secretary? it is a harder question. maybe grant _ hunt. home secretary? it is a harder question. maybe grant shapps, - hunt. home secretary? it is a harder. question. maybe grant shapps, maybe dominic raab. foreign secretary? what do you reckon, chris?! foreign secretary interesting. _ what do you reckon, chris?! foreign secretary interesting. does - what do you reckon, chris?! foreign secretary interesting. does the - what do you reckon, chris?! foreign secretary interesting. does the new| secretary interesting. does the new prime _ secretary interesting. does the new prime minister want to find a big office _ prime minister want to find a big office of— prime minister want to find a big office of state for penny mordaunt, who has _ office of state for penny mordaunt, who has been very much in the mix of the conservative conversation? gk,
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the conservative conversation? 0k, we'll take that. _ the conservative conversation? 0k, we'll take that. or— the conservative conversation? 0k, we'll take that. or does _ the conservative conversation? 0k, we'll take that. or does he - the conservative conversation? ok, we'll take that. or does he leave i we'll take that. or does he leave james we'll take that. or does he leave james cleverly — we'll take that. or does he leave james cleverly imposed - we'll take that. or does he leave james cleverly imposed because| we'll take that. or does he leave i james cleverly imposed because he james cleverly imposed because he was a _ james cleverly imposed because he was a supporter of boris johnson as recently— was a supporter of boris johnson as recently as— was a supporter of boris johnson as recently as sunday?— recently as sunday? well, we will see. we recently as sunday? well, we will see- we are _ recently as sunday? well, we will see. we are out _ recently as sunday? well, we will see. we are out of— recently as sunday? well, we will see. we are out of time. - recently as sunday? well, we will see. we are out of time. and - recently as sunday? well, we will i see. we are out of time. and thank you all for watching. more on the newsletter. thanks for watching. goodbye for now. the defiance that we heard from liz trus ., , ,. . welcome back to downing street, to viewers in the uk and around the world, i'm shaun ley. rishi sunak is prime minister, but as yet he does not have a cabinet since all the cabinet effectively lose theirjobs cabinet effectively lose their jobs when cabinet effectively lose theirjobs when his predecessor departs office. and there will be more vacancies than you might expect, because although this cabinet has only been in office for 42 days, as long as liz truss has been prime minister,
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there will be a lot of pressure within the party that this should be a much more balanced cabinet than the one she constructed. more about that a little later. but first, let's hear rishi sunak in his own words. ,., ., ., let's hear rishi sunak in his own words. ., ., , words. good morning. i have 'ust been to buckingham i words. good morning. i have 'ust been to buckingham palace h words. good morning. i havejust been to buckingham palace and i been to buckingham palace and accepted his majesty the king's invitation to form a government in his name. it is only right to explain why i am standing here is your new prime minister. right now, our country is facing a profound economic crisis. the aftermath of covid still lingers. putin's war in ukraine has destabilised energy markets and supply chains the world over. i want to pay tribute to my predecessor, liz truss. she was not
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wrong to want to improve growth in this country. it is a noble aim. and i admired her restlessness to create change. but some mistakes were made. not born of ill will or bad intentions. quite the opposite, in fact. but mistakes nonetheless. and i have been elected as leader of my party and your prime minister in party and your prime minister in part to fix them. and that work begins immediately. i will place economic stability and confidence at the heart of this government's agenda. this will mean difficult decisions to come. but you saw me
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during covid doing everything i could to protect people and businesses with schemes like furlough. there are always limits, more so now than ever, but i promise you this. i will bring that same compassion to the challenges we face today. the government i lead will not leave the next generation, your children and grandchildren, with a debt to settle that we were too weak to pay ourselves. i will unite our country not with words but with action. i will work day in and day out to deliverfor you. action. i will work day in and day out to deliver for you. this government will have integrity,
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professionalism and accountability at every level. trust is earned, and i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to borisjohnson i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to boris johnson for i will earn yours. i will always be grateful to borisjohnson for his incredible achievements as prime minister, and i treasure his warmth and generosity of spirit. and i know he would agree that the mandate to my party earned in 2019 is not the sole property of any one individual. it is a mandate that belongs to and unites all of us. and the heart of that mandate is our manifesto. i will deliver on its promise. a
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stronger nhs, better schools, safer streets, control of our borders, protecting our environment, supporting our armed forces, levelling up and building an economy that embraces the opportunities of brexit where businesses invest, innovate and create jobs. brexit where businesses invest, innovate and createjobs. i understand how difficult this moment is. after the billions of pounds it cost us to combat covid, after all the dislocation that caused in the midst of a terrible war that must be seen successfully to its conclusions, ifully seen successfully to its conclusions, i fully appreciate seen successfully to its conclusions, ifully appreciate how hard things are. and i understand, too, that i have work to do to
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restore trust after all that has happened. all i can say is that i am not daunted. i know the high office i have accepted, and i hope to live up i have accepted, and i hope to live up to its demands. but when the opportunity to serve comes along, you cannot question the moment, only your willingness. so i stand here before you ready to lead our country into the future, to put your needs above politics, to reach out and build a government that represents the very best traditions of my party. together, we can achieve incredible things. we will create a future worthy of the sacrifices so many have made, and phil tomorrow
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and every day thereafter with hope. thank you. so, rishi sunak as he turned to walk into downing street. nick eardley is with us. the tone of that was a very serious speech. we heard what he said. what did he mean? rishi sunak is a politician — said. what did he mean? rishi sunak is a politician who _ said. what did he mean? rishi sunak is a politician who has _ said. what did he mean? rishi sunak is a politician who has always - said. what did he mean? rishi sunak is a politician who has always been i is a politician who has always been quite image—conscious, and that was so clear in the speech he has just given, because he talked at length in that sombre tone, didn't he, about the economic situation. profound economic crisis. difficult decisions to come. not leaving debt that we are too weak to settle. there were other things he did very forcibly in that speech. he tried to draw a line under what has happened before him. he said explicitly liz
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truss made mistakes and i am here to fix them. he said implicitly that there were problems with boris johnson's government, because he talked about integrity and professionalism, some of the key criticisms of mrjohnson's number 10, and said, i will deliver all of those things. 50 10, and said, i will deliver all of those things-— 10, and said, i will deliver all of those things. 10, and said, i will deliver all of those thins. ., ., , those things. so in other words, he has neither— those things. so in other words, he has neither of _ those things. so in other words, he has neither of his _ those things. so in other words, he has neither of his predecessors. . has neither of his predecessors. exactly. 50 has neither of his predecessors. exactl . , , exactly. so he is defining itself auainst exactly. so he is defining itself against them, _ exactly. so he is defining itself against them, but _ exactly. so he is defining itself against them, but what - exactly. so he is defining itself against them, but what is - exactly. so he is defining itself against them, but what is he l against them, but what is he defining himself as? tim against them, but what is he defining himself as? two things. firstl he defining himself as? two things. firstly he said — defining himself as? two things. firstly he said he _ defining himself as? two things. firstly he said he will _ defining himself as? two things. firstly he said he will make - defining himself as? two things. firstly he said he will make the l firstly he said he will make the difficult economic decisions that he thinks are necessary, basically saying that the spending cuts coming in potentially tax rises too to balance the books. that is going to be a huge political debate, it will be a huge political debate, it will be politically unpopular, it will be unpopular with a lot of voters as well. mr sunak is rolling the pitch for that as well. and because of those decisions he is about to make, is going to face a lot of calls for a general election. and he tackled them in that speech by saying the
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2019 mandate that the conservative party won wasn't just 2019 mandate that the conservative party won wasn'tjust boris johnson's. there are many politicians who think the exact opposite. many of them are tory mps. they think that was boris johnson's mandate. he is basically saying, i don't think we need to have any sort of general election because that mandate is mine as well. the gentleman — mandate is mine as well. the gentleman who _ mandate is mine as well. the gentleman who just - mandate is mine as well. the gentleman whojust pass mandate is mine as well. the gentleman who just pass out of number i! gentleman who just pass out of number 11 downing st, the gentleman who provided us with the sound feed for which we are very grateful for the two statements we have heard, but the tension now goes to what he does this afternoon, and the first priority has to be forming his new cabinet. liz truss's cabinet, not only was it very brief but some of its members were even briefer because there were three changes of personnel within it. the departure of kwasi kwarteng, chris philp and who was moved out of the cabinet, and of course suella braverman grant shapps swapping, suella braverman
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leaving, grant shapps arriving. he hasn't got a clean sheet, but similarly there is huge pressure for him to come up with a much more balanced team that better reflects the parliamentary party. i balanced team that better reflects the parliamentary party.— balanced team that better reflects the parliamentary party. i think we will see some _ the parliamentary party. i think we will see some significant _ the parliamentary party. i think we will see some significant changes i the parliamentary party. i think we| will see some significant changes in cabinet over the course of the afternoon. the biggestjob of course, the one that is going to be so important to work with a new prime minister is the neighbour, the person who lives in rishi sunak's old house, number 11. all the expectation in westminster is that jeremy hunt will stay as chancellor, partly just jeremy hunt will stay as chancellor, partlyjust because he has managed to calm the markets. it partlyjust because he has managed to calm the markets.— to calm the markets. it would be provocative _ to calm the markets. it would be provocative to — to calm the markets. it would be provocative to move _ to calm the markets. it would be provocative to move him. - to calm the markets. it would be provocative to move him. i - to calm the markets. it would be provocative to move him. i think| provocative to move him. i think that is probably _ provocative to move him. i think that is probably true, _ provocative to move him. i think that is probably true, but - provocative to move him. i think that is probably true, but we - provocative to move him. i think. that is probably true, but we have not had that confirmed from mr sunak's team yet. so let's see. other big jobs that need to be handed out over the next few hours, i think we will see some departures from cabinet, and what rishi sunak will want to do is to things. get a team around that table that he trusts, and that i think will involve getting some of his allies in there, people like dominic raab
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who was a key supporter over the summer. what it will also mean is keeping parts of the conservative party who haven't always been supportive of mr sunak close. that may mean some allies of boris johnson, some allies of liz truss. i think he wants to have a cabinet thatis think he wants to have a cabinet that is slightly different from his predecessors, which brings in different wings of the conservative party, but let's see what he does this afternoon. i party, but let's see what he does this afternoon.— this afternoon. i have got my list here, so this afternoon. i have got my list here. so we _ this afternoon. i have got my list here, so i've got _ this afternoon. i have got my list here, so i've got a _ this afternoon. i have got my list here, so i've got a 24 _ this afternoon. i have got my list here, so i've got a 24 cabinet - here, so i've got a 2k cabinet ministers and another six who were attending cabinet before. it is 30 people around that table, it is pretty unwieldy, isn't it? but at the same time, the pressure to reduce numbers and be more efficient, you have those political pressures to include as many different factions as possible, and in a sense that almost illustrates party is talking about unity, but unity has not been on display in recent weeks.— unity has not been on display in recent weeks. that is absolutely s - ot recent weeks. that is absolutely sot on, recent weeks. that is absolutely spot on. and _ recent weeks. that is absolutely spot on, and we _ recent weeks. that is absolutely spot on, and we shouldn't - recent weeks. that is absolutely| spot on, and we shouldn't forget that those tensions aren'tjust because the party likes to argue
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with itself. they are ideological as well. rishi sunak is going to continue, his whole premiership is going to be defined by the economy, the same way that liz truss's fell apart because of the economy, his will bejudged on apart because of the economy, his will be judged on what he delivers on the economy. but there will be very different visions within the conservative party in parliament about what the best plan is for the economy. we were chatting about this earlier. if you take something like immigration, there are conservative mps who will say relax immigration rules because bringing in migrant workers will help boost growth. we need skills. exactly. _ workers will help boost growth. we need skills. exactly. then - workers will help boost growth. we need skills. exactly. then there - workers will help boost growth. we j need skills. exactly. then there are conservative _ need skills. exactly. then there are conservative mps _ need skills. exactly. then there are conservative mps who _ need skills. exactly. then there are conservative mps who say, - need skills. exactly. then there are conservative mps who say, no, - need skills. exactly. then there are conservative mps who say, no, we| conservative mps who say, no, we made a promise to bring net migration down, we need to deliver that. likewise there are some one nation conservative is in the centre of the party who is a close relationship with europe will help us deliver economic growth, but then there is the european research group and brexiteers who say, no, we have promised a hard line on the northern ireland protocol, we need to keep that going. so those tensions are
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real and not easy to solve. it is rishi sunak'sjob now. it real and not easy to solve. it is rishi sunak's job now. rishi sunak's 'ob now. it certainly is. nick rishi sunak's job now. it certainly is. nick eardley, _ rishi sunak's job now. it certainly is. nick eardley, thank— rishi sunak's job now. it certainly is. nick eardley, thank you - rishi sunak's job now. it certainly is. nick eardley, thank you very l is. nick eardley, thank you very much. let's reflect for a moment on the demise of liz truss. joining me now is james heale, diary editor for the spectator he also co—authored a biography of liz truss with harry cole, now marketed as out of the blue: the inside story of the unexpected rise and rapid fall of liz truss. are you working already on a corrected afterthought for a second edition? taste corrected afterthought for a second edition? ~ . , ., , edition? we have 'ust actually finished revising _ edition? we have just actually finished revising the _ edition? we have just actually finished revising the updated | edition? we have just actually i finished revising the updated one which _ finished revising the updated one which will be sending to the publishers, just to take account of the extraordinary 50 days in office the extraordinary 50 days in office the lil— the extraordinary 50 days in office the liz truss had, and the way in which _ the liz truss had, and the way in which she — the liz truss had, and the way in which she tried to go about change in the _ which she tried to go about change in the country and how that ultimately led to her untimely demise — ultimately led to her untimely demise and made herthe ultimately led to her untimely demise and made her the shortest serving _ demise and made her the shortest serving prime minister in british political— serving prime minister in british political history.— political history. james, is it a ro er political history. james, is it a proper political _ political history. james, is it a proper political tragedy - political history. james, is it a proper political tragedy in - political history. james, is it a proper political tragedy in the | proper political tragedy in the sense of the proper use of that word, in that it is a fate that
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somebody brings on themselves? yes. somebody brings on themselves? yes, that was a word _ somebody brings on themselves? yes, that was a word that _ somebody brings on themselves? yes, that was a word that one of liz truss's— that was a word that one of liz truss's own advisers used to be, it was hubris~ — truss's own advisers used to be, it was hubris. she tried to do too much, — was hubris. she tried to do too much, after the summer leadership election. _ much, after the summer leadership election, they appointed a cabinet and went— election, they appointed a cabinet and went on a strategy which they couldn't— and went on a strategy which they couldn't carry along in the markets along _ couldn't carry along in the markets along with — couldn't carry along in the markets along with them, and i think for a combination of mistakes, what we saw was the _ combination of mistakes, what we saw was the government went too far in the mini _ was the government went too far in the mini budget and then they tried desperately to make up for that, but the damage was done. once you have lost market _ the damage was done. once you have lost market credibility, it is difficult _ lost market credibility, it is difficult to re—establish that, and whether— difficult to re—establish that, and whether divided party which she had reflected _ whether divided party which she had reflected her cabinet, it was only going _ reflected her cabinet, it was only going to — reflected her cabinet, it was only going to end one way from there. can ou rive going to end one way from there. you give us an going to end one way from there. can you give us an insight from the people you talk to about what elements make up liz truss's character, because some people have accused her of being rhinoceros skinned, insensitive, almost robotic. others say she is actually quite a sensitive person, but she has had to develop a shell to survive in the rough—and—tumble of british politics. i
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survive in the rough-and-tumble of british politics.— british politics. i think liz truss has always _ british politics. i think liz truss has always been _ british politics. i think liz truss has always been her— british politics. i think liz truss has always been her own - british politics. i think liz truss l has always been her own person. british politics. i think liz truss - has always been her own person. you see this _ has always been her own person. you see this from — has always been her own person. you see this from an earlier stage when she was— see this from an earlier stage when she was willing to think for herself in terms _ she was willing to think for herself in terms of— she was willing to think for herself in terms of early political choices when _ in terms of early political choices when she — in terms of early political choices when she was an iconoclastic liberal democrat— when she was an iconoclastic liberal democrat at oxford, coming from a labour _ democrat at oxford, coming from a labour family that moved away from that and _ labour family that moved away from that and join the tories in her early— that and join the tories in her early 20s _ that and join the tories in her early 20s. she was quite independent. i think that rhinoceros —like independent. i think that rhinoceros -like skin _ independent. i think that rhinoceros —like skin has come on over the years. — —like skin has come on over the years, partly through her years in office. _ years, partly through her years in office, partly through press coverage and having to protect herself — coverage and having to protect herself. but we saw a lot of her personality today in the statement outside _ personality today in the statement outside number 10 saying effectively it was— outside number 10 saying effectively it was worth a try, it was worth having — it was worth a try, it was worth having a — it was worth a try, it was worth having a go— it was worth a try, it was worth having a go at this in order to boost — having a go at this in order to boost growth, and basically quite unrepentant, and i think that is liz truss _ unrepentant, and i think that is liz truss she — unrepentant, and i think that is liz truss she is— unrepentant, and i think that is liz truss. she is someone who knows her own mind, _ truss. she is someone who knows her own mind, is — truss. she is someone who knows her own mind, is confident in herself, and there — own mind, is confident in herself, and there are downsides, she won't spend too much but it has also made her reflective politician i would argue. a politician i would argue. political chameleon, perhaps. can she reinvent herself again? we saw that almost — she reinvent herself again? we saw that almost with _ she reinvent herself again? we saw that almost with boris _ she reinvent herself again? we saw that almost with boris johnson. - she reinvent herself again? we sawj that almost with boris johnson. not everyone _ that almost with boris johnson. not everyone else borisjohnson's charisma _ everyone else borisjohnson's charisma profile. it would be
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difficult _ charisma profile. it would be difficult but i think she is committed to her constituency of south _ committed to her constituency of south west norfolk, she is passionate about free markets and has a _ passionate about free markets and has a clear— passionate about free markets and has a clear sense of her own principles _ has a clear sense of her own principles. i think that she was able _ principles. ! think that she was able to— principles. i think that she was able to survive under three prime ministers, — able to survive under three prime ministers, so she has got more skills— ministers, so she has got more skills than— ministers, so she has got more skills than her critics are giving her, _ skills than her critics are giving her. but — skills than her critics are giving her. but it— skills than her critics are giving her, but it would be very difficult to imagine — her, but it would be very difficult to imagine anything like the kind of restoration after the way in which it ended — restoration after the way in which it ended. . . restoration after the way in which it ended. .. , ., ., .,, it ended. it can be a tough full 'ob bein: a it ended. it can be a tough full 'ob being a political�* it ended. it can be a tough full 'ob being a politicaljournalist i being a politicaljournalist sometimes. you must be worried that no might buy your book now, they might be wanting to buy a book about rishi sunak! ~ ., ., rishi sunak! well, now and in future, rishi sunak! well, now and in future. people _ rishi sunak! well, now and in future, people might - rishi sunak! well, now and in future, people might look- rishi sunak! well, now and in l future, people might look back rishi sunak! well, now and in - future, people might look back at this period and wonder who the shortest— this period and wonder who the shortest prime minister was, he did
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this mini _ shortest prime minister was, he did this mini budget, and they might want _ this mini budget, and they might want the — this mini budget, and they might want the inside story of liz truss and her— want the inside story of liz truss and her rise _ want the inside story of liz truss and her rise and fall.— and her rise and fall. james hill, that is an _ and her rise and fall. james hill, that is an admirable _ and her rise and fall. james hill, that is an admirable defence - and her rise and fall. james hill, that is an admirable defence of i and her rise and fall. james hill, | that is an admirable defence of a daft question. yesterday, rishi sunak announced that the country faced a pronounced economic challenge, looking almost at his face today you could see how seriously he takes that. there were no smiles outside number ten, despite the best effort of the photographers. he acknowledged that liz truss had triggered a collapse in investor confidence. the question is, will he be able to fix the country's finances. to tell us a bit more i am now joined byjeevun sandher, head of economics at the new economics foundation. i think this is a question that will be of interest globally as well as
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in the uk for our audiences internationally. what was it that the british did to trigger a situation where moody's, the rating agency, can downgrade british debts, when greek and italian politicians were making jokes about the british economy, and at one point the uk's borrowing costs were higher than those two countries. liz borrowing costs were higher than those two countries.— borrowing costs were higher than those two countries. liz truss came into office had _ those two countries. liz truss came into office had this _ those two countries. liz truss came into office had this huge _ those two countries. liz truss came into office had this huge pro-rich i into office had this huge pro—rich tax cuts that nobody had voted for. everybody across the world wondered what she was doing. it was not a plan for growth and nobody trusted that plan. those past few weeks of chaos made british families poorer, and that comes after a decade under which the foundations of our economy have been systematically undermined. we have had no growth in this
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country for a decade, a country that is poorer, sicker. it was the weakest pandemic recovery in the g7. he is now proposing more spending cuts that undermines our future prosperity. after that no growth decade, we need growth, we need to invest in our future prosperity. the first signs from rishi sunak are not hopeful. first signs from rishi sunak are not ho eful. ., first signs from rishi sunak are not hoeful. ., ., , , hopeful. how important is the budget next monday? — hopeful. how important is the budget next monday? incredibly _ hopeful. how important is the budget next monday? incredibly important. i next monday? incredibly important. it will set next monday? incredibly important. it will set the _ next monday? incredibly important. it will set the direction _ next monday? incredibly important. it will set the direction for _ next monday? incredibly important. it will set the direction for his i it will set the direction for his entire premiership, for what he sees as being important, also to deal with the huge challenges that we face in this of course, the crossed cost of living crisis, half of us are struggling to pay our energy bills. his first priority has to be to increase social security payments to increase social security payments to stop people going hungry. we need
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functioning public services. nhs waiting lists are over seven millions. if workers are not healthy they are not very productive. if workers aren't skilled... forgive me for interrupting. _ workers aren't skilled... forgive me for interrupting. i'm _ workers aren't skilled... forgive me for interrupting. i'mjust_ workers aren't skilled... forgive me for interrupting. i'm just going i workers aren't skilled... forgive me for interrupting. i'm just going to i for interrupting. i'm just going to briefly say that these are pictures of rishi sunak driving into the palace of westminster. he will be conducting some of his meetings inside the palace of westminster, which means that we might not see some of those cabinet appointments. sorry about interrupting, just to say to people, what is likely to happen is the prime minister will make his sackings out of sites, he has an office behind the speaker's chair in the house of commons, meaning he can summon cabinet ministers and tell them he doesn't want them any more. so we don't have anyone doing the walk of shame any
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more. people coming of downing street this afternoon will be people who have had good news from the prime minister. you were talking about the question of whether or not benefits cap to rise in line with inflation, which would mean a significant uptick next april. there is no question over that because what has happened over the last few weeks? , ., , ., , , weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be- — weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be. if— weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be. if you _ weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be. if you were _ weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be. if you were to - weeks? there is a question, but they shouldn't be. if you were to operate l shouldn't be. if you were to operate social security payments in line with inflation that still leaves the most vulnerable people in this country in the same position they are in now, which is not in a great state. 2.6 million kids are going hungry. we want to increase social security payments more than in line with inflation. if the prime minister and chancellor don't do so, it is the most vulnerable that supper. children, pensioners and the severely disabled, because there is
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no way to make up the difference with the higher cost of living. your foundation comes _ with the higher cost of living. your foundation comes from _ with the higher cost of living. your foundation comes from a - with the higher cost of living. your foundation comes from a centre—left perspective, i think it is fair to say, and have been sceptical of previous efforts by conservative governments, but there comes a point where the financial crisis is so grave that the options are very limited, whether you are a government on the left or right. you are in a very narrow element on which to make choices. socialism is the language of priorities, even a left—wing government would struggle to balance the books at the moment, wouldn't they?— wouldn't they? businesses borrow to invest a key — wouldn't they? businesses borrow to invest a key production _ wouldn't they? businesses borrow to invest a key production drawing, i invest a key production drawing, thatis invest a key production drawing, that is the same way we should be running our country's finances. when we have successfully grown in this country, debt pulses well. if you
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return on investment greater than the cost of around this country we see investments not being made. net zero is a return that will pay off every generation still to come. infrastructure spending, as well. investment into early years childcare and children in general because there is no more productive part of this economy than the children who will one day become workers and have great ideas. that is what you need to do. you take a hard—headed look at this and look at the investment returns, what you don't do is just say we will cut spending, cut borrowing and hope everything will be ok. that is like a business laying off their staff, selling their machines and saying, i hope everything will work out. you will have to _ hope everything will work out. you will have to cut _ hope everything will work out. you will have to cut borrowing though because people have put up the rates, is that not the reality? what rates, is that not the reality? what ha--ened rates, is that not the reality? what
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happened last _ rates, is that not the reality? what happened last week _ rates, is that not the reality? what happened last week was _ rates, is that not the reality? what happened last week was a - rates, is that not the reality? transit happened last week was a reaction to the trust government. liz truss government. if you looked at what happened over bond yields in that period, when she preannounced her corporation tax captain, we didn't see a big change, it was during the mini budget, across the world there was a clear understanding of what on earth she was doing. she didn't have a democratic mandate. she had sacked a democratic mandate. she had sacked a senior treasury civil servant and refused to look at economic forecasts. that does not give anybody faith that she was competent. that competency premium has fallen further back down since she left office. it was a reaction to incompetency. we take a hard—headed look at the finances and say, ok, where can i get a return? that is the best way forward, not only to get growth and ensure our future prosperity, it also means
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this country will be less sick. we need to realise the dire states are country's economics are n. —— r n. let's speak now to lord rami ranger who is the patron of the conservative friends of india, as is rishi sunak, and a major donor to the party. you know rishi sunak well. how much will he be worried about the issues like the question of the social solidarity at a time when the public finances, when the belt will have to be squeezed tighter? i finances, when the belt will have to be squeezed tighter?— finances, when the belt will have to be squeezed tighter? i would like to -a tribute be squeezed tighter? i would like to pay tribute to _ be squeezed tighter? i would like to pay tribute to the _ be squeezed tighter? i would like to pay tribute to the british _ be squeezed tighter? i would like to pay tribute to the british sense i be squeezed tighter? i would like to pay tribute to the british sense of. pay tribute to the british sense of tolerance and fair play, as a result we have a non—white prime minister for the first time in the history of this great country. that goes to prove that calibre is more important than colour. rishi sunak has demonstrated he has the calibre and
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commitment and dedication to do the job we require him to do. rishi sunak comes from a very good background. as a chancellor, he showed a lot of empathy to people, pumped billions of pounds to stabilise the economy and save the livelihoods of people and their jobs. therefore, he knows how to deal with a crisis. the pandemic was the worst crisis in my living history that we had to face as a nation. we had no idea who would be alive today or tomorrow or what would happen, but he used his imagination and showed a lot of empathy for the population. the next thing is, rishi sunak is not going to do everything on his own. although he is a banker and will take expert advice from the economists, the bank of england, he will not be making policy on the hoof. he will be a team player, unlike liz truss. he will also unite
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the party... let unlike liz truss. he will also unite the party---_ the party... let me 'ust ask if the other question i the party... let me 'ust ask if the other question that i the party... let me just ask if the other question that has _ the party... let me just ask if the other question that has been i the party... let me just ask if the l other question that has been talked about, of allowing those with skills from india to have work visas to come to this country. how much is that an issue of debate within your organisation? is it something that people feel strongly there is a need for? , ., ., ., for? first and foremost we are british now. _ for? first and foremost we are british now. we _ for? first and foremost we are british now. we are _ for? first and foremost we are british now. we are living i for? first and foremost we are british now. we are living in i for? first and foremost we are i british now. we are living in this country. the prosperity of this country. the prosperity of this country affects me, my children, my grandchildren, so we will not make any irresponsible decisions just out of some fancy idea. the free trade agreement between the united kingdom and great britain will be the mother of all free—trade agreements because it will be between the fifth and sixth economies of the world. the indian market is not small. indy is the biggest buyer of defence
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equipment. india is the second largest... india is number one in pharmaceuticals, all the sorts of things. we will have huge synergy. we share each other�*s values, democratic, rule of law at the heart of government. we don't have to watch your back as we do with china. the friendship is going hundreds of year. in the great war millions of indian shoulders came to defend king and empire, our loyalty was tested in both the great pause. taste and empire, our loyalty was tested in both the great pause.— in both the great pause. we will have to leave _ in both the great pause. we will have to leave it _ in both the great pause. we will have to leave it there. - in both the great pause. we will have to leave it there. forgive i in both the great pause. we will i have to leave it there. forgive me. thank you so much for your time, sir. i look forward to speaking to you again. thank you. i am joined
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now by a correspondent from a french news channel. what potential does rishi sunak have for rebuilding the rather frayed relationship with europe, and in particular france? we have to europe, and in particular france? - have to hope that this will be brighter days, as liz truss said in her parting shots. interestingly, president macron and liz truss met and finally they agreed that there would be an anglo—french summit next year. i was at the last one. normally these are yearly meetings and it gives me no pleasure whatsoever, whether it is businesses or individuals, to see the entire relationship. 50 or individuals, to see the entire relationship-— relationship. so by then it will have been _ relationship. so by then it will have been a — relationship. so by then it will have been a four-man - relationship. so by then it will have been a four-man crew i relationship. so by then it will. have been a four-man crew year relationship. so by then it will- have been a four-man crew year gap. have been a four—man crew year gap. that's right. there are so many issues that france and the united
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kingdom work together run, let alone the millions of people coming to the uk, and british people going to france. also military and cultural defence. the military cooperation throughout all of this has been excellent. there are issues to work on, whether it is the war in ukraine, iran. there are so many things around the world that the uk and france cooperate on. the hope will be that the summit due to be in france that rishi sunak will build on that and go forward with that. of course, this not small matter of the uk the eu. interesting when there is a bill going through the house of commons about getting rid of everything that had to do with the eu. i think i heard this morning on bbc radio 4john rutter talking about how that should not be done in haste. these are extraordinary
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scenes we are witnessing. it is not helpful when you see the revolving door, no experience required. he talked about professionalism, accountability. the fact that he was so much acknowledging her mistakes, this has been what's —— this is being watched around the planet. great britain needs to be stable for itself and be a reliable partner and play a role, whether publicly or behind—the—scenes. for play a role, whether publicly or behind-the-scenes._ play a role, whether publicly or behind-the-scenes. for now, thank ou ve behind-the-scenes. for now, thank you very much- _ behind-the-scenes. for now, thank you very much. joining _ behind-the-scenes. for now, thank you very much. joining us _ behind-the-scenes. for now, thank you very much. joining us now i behind-the-scenes. for now, thank you very much. joining us now is i behind-the-scenes. for now, thank| you very much. joining us now is the conservative mp for stockton south. welcome to bbc news. how do you greet the arrival of a new prime minister, with relief, trepidation, a bit of both?— a bit of both? there are huge challenges — a bit of both? there are huge challenges in _ a bit of both? there are huge challenges in place _ a bit of both? there are huge challenges in place for i a bit of both? there are huge challenges in place for this i a bit of both? there are huge i challenges in place for this country at the moment, whether it be the
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economy, rebuilding confidence in the economy, the cost of a living thatis the economy, the cost of a living that is affecting families and businesses, or the war in ukraine. we need a guy at the topic and reunite our party, has the intellect to take on some of these challenges and rishi sunak is the man for the job. ads, and rishi sunak is the man for the 'ob. �* , ., ., , ., job. a little bird told me that you were his agent _ job. a little bird told me that you were his agent in _ job. a little bird told me that you were his agent in a _ job. a little bird told me that you were his agent in a former i job. a little bird told me that you were his agent in a former life i job. a little bird told me that you were his agent in a former life in| were his agent in a former life in richmond. presumably you are right wet —— he arrived wet behind the ears and you have to drag him out. i ears and you have to drag him out. i got to see a man who throws everything at everything he takes on. a man who is committed, determined, and incredibly intelligent. he rose to whatever challenges came to him in that election campaign. i have never really met anybody like him. we knew he was destined for high office. huge interest in people and the challenges they face and how he can find those innovative solutions to them. i am confident that he is the
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man that we need today. let them. i am confident that he is the man that we need today.— them. i am confident that he is the man that we need today. let me ask ou ve man that we need today. let me ask you very specific _ man that we need today. let me ask you very specific question. _ man that we need today. let me ask you very specific question. and i man that we need today. let me ask you very specific question. and liz i you very specific question. and liz truss became premier mr said there was too much talk about equality and not enough about growth. does there need to be talking about the quality or not? , ., ., , ., or not? they are two things that we face. if or not? they are two things that we face- if you — or not? they are two things that we face. if you look _ or not? they are two things that we face. if you look at _ or not? they are two things that we face. if you look at rishi _ or not? they are two things that we face. if you look at rishi sunak i or not? they are two things that we face. if you look at rishi sunak in i face. if you look at rishi sunak in what he developed his chancellor, whether it the package for people to help with cost of living from it was about supporting those who needed that help most, those most vulnerable people who are finding these times more challenging. he supported growth across this country when he broke on the holiday for business rates and all the other packages of grants and support that kept those jobs are in place so that when we got to the other end of the pandemic, before the pandemic everybody thought there was going to be a meltdown, lack ofjobs, his management of that economy during the pandemic brought us to the other end to a point where we emerge as
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the fastest growing in the g7, where employment was in a better state thanit employment was in a better state than it was before we went into the pandemic. i'm sure he will deliver that now. a pandemic. i'm sure he will deliver that now. u a , pandemic. i'm sure he will deliver that now. , ., , ., that now. matt vickers, lovely to seak that now. matt vickers, lovely to s - eak to that now. matt vickers, lovely to speak to you. — that now. matt vickers, lovely to speak to you. l — that now. matt vickers, lovely to speak to you, i hope _ that now. matt vickers, lovely to speak to you, i hope you - that now. matt vickers, lovely to speak to you, i hope you will i that now. matt vickers, lovely to i speak to you, i hope you will speak again. chris has news. we are, after all, breaking news channel. jacob rees—mogg has resigned. jumped before he was pushed? i rees-mogg has resigned. jumped before he was pushed?— rees-mogg has resigned. jumped before he was pushed? i think so. he was in the street _ before he was pushed? i think so. he was in the street when _ before he was pushed? i think so. he was in the street when liz _ before he was pushed? i think so. he was in the street when liz truss i was in the street when liz truss left. in the last few minutes he has tendered his resignation. he will no longer be business secretary. not a huge surprise. the prime minister is now in the house of commons were a lot of those sackings happen. i expect we will have a few more over the next few hours.— the next few hours. grant williams talkin: to the next few hours. grant williams talking to me _ the next few hours. grant williams talking to me earlier, _ the next few hours. grant williams talking to me earlier, the - the next few hours. grant williams talking to me earlier, the mp i the next few hours. grant williams talking to me earlier, the mp for. talking to me earlier, the mp for montgomeryshire, said he would have
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to have a welsh secretary with the welsh constituency, that would be curtains for the swindon mp he returned as welsh secretary in the liz truss government. he might have anotherjob, but without liz truss government. he might have another job, but without advice that would be an interesting question. pull suggest the public has already lost confidence in the conservative party, candy coated back—up? priya minhas from opinium is joining me to tell us more. is this a long term or reaction to the seesaw of the last few weeks? there has been a long—term trend to board the conservatives losing their perception of being economically competent among the public. it dropped so dramatically under the government said liz truss we can't really understate how much of an impact that has had to. it does appear initially that rishi sunak is
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the best placed person from the public�*s perception is at least, from the conservative party, to get things back. the same has the most economically competent of the conservative leadership potential is. they see him as being in the better place to handle the economy. that does give some confidence to the conservative party, although the policies on monday will determine that, but it has made some inroads with the public. in that, but it has made some inroads with the public.— with the public. in terms of overall share, we have _ with the public. in terms of overall share, we have heard _ with the public. in terms of overall share, we have heard a _ with the public. in terms of overall share, we have heard a lot - with the public. in terms of overall share, we have heard a lot of i with the public. in terms of overall| share, we have heard a lot of shock polls, 30 point labour leads, tory support down to io%. to what extent is that volatility, to what extent can we discount any of that as froth in the way that people's views swing. we need to measure polls. is there a solid line in any of this? what we will be keeping an eye on
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over the next couple of weeks and months is the percentage of the 2019 conservative voters who are now saying they will vote labour. that is really shot up. at the end of the borisjohnson government that number was around 10% saying they had switched over to labour. under liz truss that most up to 30%. if we see that figure stay at around 20% that would mean a labour government, under 15% it could be a hung parliament. i think conservative voters will give rishi sunak a chance at first. generally the public likes to give the prime minister a chance when they are new. it remains to be safe he can win people back. let's reflect on the challenge now facing the new prime minister. he has to depart people from his cabinet, tell them their services are no longer required. we are told
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thatjacob rees—mogg has already tendered his resignation as business secretary. in a few moments we will bejoining ben brown. in a few moments we will bejoining ben brown. our correspondent ben boulos was in a cafe to canvass opinion this morning and sent us this report. this is, of course, rishi sunak's own constituency. he has been mp here since 2015. let's come into the tea rooms, rather nice tea rooms they have opened up for us here this morning. we've had some figures that really reflect the cost of living pressures that will be at the very top of the new prime minister's agenda. the office for national statistics this morning has published figures. they've looked at 30 typical grocery items and they have looked at the cheapest options on the shelves that you can buy. they have found that those have gone up by i7% in september compared with the year before. that means those basic, those value, those budget items in the grocery basket are going up faster than general inflation, goods and services in the economy. inflation generally running at about io%. but let me pick out some
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of the items that they have highlighted that have gone up even more. vegetable oil for cooking has gone up 65% in september compared with the year before. the cheapest pasta you can get up by an average of 60%. budget tea bags up 46%. even milk has gone up by 30%. it is really putting the squeeze on households and businesses. we can speak to barry, he is chatting to his customers here. barry, come over and have a chat to us this morning. thanks for having us down here. just tell us about the pressures you are facing as a business and what you are noticing are the biggest costs squeeze is for you. it is across the board. obviously, energy costs have gone up and we are definitely feeling the pinch on that. with that, i guess all suppliers are putting up their prices to cope, which then affects us. we are also noticing our customers are really starting to struggle now, as well. like anybody, we are just adapting and trying to do everything we can to make it good for people. your local mp, now the prime minister, rishi sunak, what would you like to see him do to help businesses like yours?
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i thinkjust understand the situation that we are in. if anything, this is probably more complicated than covid now, more challenging than covid was. i think the understanding of that. just give us that little bit of support that we need to help see us through the next few months into next year, then trust us, small, medium—sized businesses, we will figure out a way of making it work and we will move the country forward. 0k, barry, thanks very much. we have another of the customers here who also has his own business. we've got steve. steve, you run a coffee business. what are you noticing are the pressures? it's just businesses changing behaviours. so where businesses before were ready to go, ready to invest in new equipment, they are just pausing, taking their time and reconsidering where they want to put their capital. then other things, so a few months ago when the pound crashed against the dollar, we buy in dollars. so something like that is going to affect us. thankfully, it has come back up again, but they are the sorts of things where things are a bit unstable. they're the things that concern us.
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what could rishi do? settle it down, bring us together, let's have a quiet few months. 0k, thank you very much. so that's the effect on businesses. i want to get a bit of a picture on how it's affecting people day—to—day and households. we can speak to pete, who runs the food back here in richmond, the prime minister's and constituency. just give us a sense of the picture you experience as somebody who runs that foodbank? we are seeing a significant increase in the amount of people accessing the foodbank services. year—on—year, we are seeing more families, more individuals, especially people that you'd have maybe thought beforehand would not have needed to access the foodbank are beginning to come through our doors and it is alarming, really. we are seeing so much more need and so much more unanticipated need, as well, which is quite frightening, but we do our best. 0k. pete, thank you very much indeed. let's just finish up by showing you some of the sweet treats that they have on display here. isn't all of this just so unbelievably tempting?
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they've even got the halloween cupcakes ready. of course, halloween is next monday, the same day that we get the government's tax and spending plan, so ijust wonder whether we renam these fiscal cupcakes? rename these fiscal cupcakes? it is set to turn even milder as we move through this week. temperatures five or 6 degrees above normal in southern areas. you will also see spells of wet and windy weather through the week, and just belted bright and sunny moments. overnight, a wet and windy spell will move its way northward through the country, many toward northern and western areas, some rain will be heavy, the winds reaching gale force in some places. minimum temperatures, no lowerthan places. minimum temperatures, no lower than 13—15. places. minimum temperatures, no lower than 13—15 . an active pressure chart, low pressure to the west of the uk. it will be a
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blustery day. the heaviest rain will advance northwards. look at where this air source is coming from, the subtropics, the azores, right across our church. it will feel very mild from wednesday onwards. that heavy rain cleared northward through wednesday morning, leaving a legacy of blustery showers in the north and west. a few showers just pitching into the south. good spells of sunshine. temperatures reaching 19 or 20 degrees in southern and eastern areas, mid to high teens further north. very mild indeed. i very mild night on wednesday night, it stays quite breezy. more weather fronts waiting in the wings pushing up fronts waiting in the wings pushing up the southern and western areas, so bands of showers are longer spread of rain will move northwards on thursday. maybe something a bit drier and brighter moving into england and wales for the second half of thursday. there will be some showers around and it could be on the heavy side. temperatures potentially up to 21 degrees in the
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south and east. another spell of wet and windy weather starts to push into the western side of the country. towards the end of the week the weather details remain sketchy. it looks like the wet and windy speu it looks like the wet and windy spell will move its way northward and eastward through the day on friday, followed again by sunshine and showers, some of them on the heavy side. very mouth of the time of year. ranging from 15 up to 21 across the south—east. we hold onto that theme through the weekend. it could be quite unsettled. saturday looking like the better day at the weekend, sunshine and showers. we could see more substantial rain on sunday, but both days will be very mild.
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the uk is in a "profound economic crisis" — and mistakes will be fixed pledges the new prime minister. rishi sunak was formally appointed this morning by the king. he is britain's third pm injust seven weeks. i will unite our country, not with words but with actions. i will work day in and day out to deliver for you. with her husband and daughters, liz truss left number ten for the last time afterjust 49 days in office — and wished her successoi’ every success.
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our country continues to battle through a storm. but i believe in britain. i believe in the british people.

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