hello and welcome to our second look at what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sonia sodha, who's the chief leader writer of the observer, and rosa prince, who's the editor of the house magazine. welcome back to you. let's look at some more of the titles that have come in the last a0 minutes or so. many of the front pages cover the fallout of rishi sunak�*s first prime minister's questions. but other stories as well. "cuts warning as sunak rips up truss

growth plan" is the t's headline. "cuts warning as sunak rips up truss growth plan" is the is headline. the financial times covers the delay in the halloween fiscal event. the debt—cutting plan will now take place on 17th november. the telegraph features the pm at the despatch box under the headline — "sunak reconsiders tax rises as budget delay saves £15 billion". the guardian focusses on mr sunak�*s fracking ban reversal in england. it also has pictures of protests in iran following mahsa amini's death a0 days ago. the express accuses rishi sunak of torturing pensioners. it asks — "do you really want to scrap pension triple again?" the daily mail reports on 38,000 people crossing the english channel this year — describing the migrant crisis as a headache for the new premier. the times quotes rishi sunak declaring a radical set of reforms to the nations education system and transform vocational training.

the metro carries criticism of the foreign secretary james cleverly, after saying lgbt football fans should compromise if attending the world cup in qatar. homosexuality is illegal in the gulf state. right, let's have our second look at it. welcome to you both again. rosa, let's start with you, the telegraph. rishi sunak reconsiders tax rises as budget delay saves £15 billion. says quite a lot, doesn't it, that that market instability has been settled and little to the extent it has saved the government £15 billion in tax rises or cuts?— tax rises or cuts? yeah, quite nice to have some _ tax rises or cuts? yeah, quite nice to have some good _ tax rises or cuts? yeah, quite nice to have some good economic - tax rises or cuts? yeah, quite nice | to have some good economic news tax rises or cuts? yeah, quite nice - to have some good economic news for a change! the black hole that was staring us down the barrel as we

went into the autumn is said to be about 35 billion to a0 billion, so 15 billion is a big jump from that, so a barelyjust the 15 billion is a big jump from that, so a barely just the fact we are delaying the fiscal statement by a couple of weeks means that the interest rate that is paid on government bills introduced, gas prices have gone down privileges helping the public finances, and so, yeah, that decision delay —— so that is helping public finances... a foundation which is crunch the numbers, says it is going to give rishi sunak £15 billion to play with, which he might otherwise have had to make in either cuts or tax rises. �* ., ., , rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term. _ rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term, isn't _ rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term, isn't it? - rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term, isn't it? i- rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term, isn't it? i do - rises. but, sonia, that is very short-term, isn't it? i do not| rises. but, sonia, that is very - short-term, isn't it? i do not think short—term, isn't it? i do not think the forecast going down the line or perhaps the bounty might have had since taking over as p.m. ? know, and a distantly not _ since taking over as p.m. ? know, and a distantly not going - since taking over as p.m. ? know, and a distantly not going to - since taking over as p.m. ? know, and a distantly not going to avoidl and a distantly not going to avoid the -- _ and a distantly not going to avoid the -- it— and a distantly not going to avoid

the -- it is— and a distantly not going to avoid the —— it is certainly not going to avoid _ the —— it is certainly not going to avoid the — the —— it is certainly not going to avoid the cost of borrowing, the underage — avoid the cost of borrowing, the underage support package or tax rises _ underage support package or tax rises were — underage support package or tax rises were spending cuts. i definitely think the emphasis should be on _ definitely think the emphasis should be on borrowing and tax rises rather than spending cuts. i do not think there is_ than spending cuts. i do not think there is any— than spending cuts. i do not think there is any capacity across a public— there is any capacity across a public service infrastructure for more _ public service infrastructure for more cuts _ public service infrastructure for more cuts. but this is what apparently sunak and jeremy hunt, the chancellor, or thinking about, and i_ the chancellor, or thinking about, and i think— the chancellor, or thinking about, and i think we will have to wait and see what happens in the next three weeks. but — see what happens in the next three weeks, but even given some of the more _ weeks, but even given some of the more positive because of news around borrowing, _ more positive because of news around borrowing, it — more positive because of news around borrowing, it is still a very big gap _ borrowing, it is still a very big 969 that _ borrowing, it is still a very big gap. that is why we will see all sorts— gap. that is why we will see all sorts of— gap. that is why we will see all sorts of political arguments in the coming _ sorts of political arguments in the coming weeks. i think will come on to discuss— coming weeks. i think will come on to discuss that. it is at hospitals and schools that are going to be affected? what about the trip a lot on pensions? what about benefits? low-paid _ on pensions? what about benefits? low—paid parents, people with disabilities, they are facing much greater— disabilities, they are facing much greater inflation then the rest of the country because so much of the income _

the country because so much of the income goes on housing costs and food costs — income goes on housing costs and food costs which have really spiked the meso— food costs which have really spiked the meso are their benefits going to be increased in line with inflation or they— be increased in line with inflation or they go — be increased in line with inflation or they go be facing real terms can't? — or they go be facing real terms can't? these are really big political— can't? these are really big political fights we will see play out in — political fights we will see play out in the next few weeks. they are going _ out in the next few weeks. they are going to _ out in the next few weeks. they are going to have big ramifications potentially. we going to have big ramifications potentially-— going to have big ramifications otentiall . ~ ., ., ., potentially. we will come onto that in a moment. _ potentially. we will come onto that in a moment, but— potentially. we will come onto that in a moment, but staying - potentially. we will come onto that in a moment, but staying with - potentially. we will come onto that in a moment, but staying with thel in a moment, but staying with the telegraph, a picture at him at the dispatch box, first pmqs, do you think you valley the tories, in terms of the performance, rosa, today? —— you think that he rallied? bearing in mind the turmoil they have been through. i bearing in mind the turmoil they have been through.— bearing in mind the turmoil they have been through. i think he did. most conservatives _ have been through. i think he did. most conservatives want - have been through. i think he did. most conservatives want to - have been through. i think he did. most conservatives want to have i have been through. i think he did. | most conservatives want to have a period of calm, want to unify, but there are still some divisions. we see it as a coronation of rishi sunak, but actually he did not get the overwhelming majority of his mps. borisjohnson did surprisingly well. penny mordaunt i am told did

better than people think she did, she got nearer to 90 votes, and as was said there are some big choices down the track, and increasingly the conservative party is quite a broad church in the sense that there are views like liz truss's that you can go for growth byjust going for it on borrowing to the complete opposite, which is what rishi sunak is saying, which is you need to be very tight, fiscally conservative, to balance the books, and so those choices are going to inevitably leave some wings of the party dissatisfied. today, in that prime ministers question time they did all feel unified, they wanted to unify behind him. 0therwise feel unified, they wanted to unify behind him. otherwise i think they know they're going to be in trouble at the next election. whether they can stick to that, whether when we get to the fiscal statement in the couple of weeks and their pet project is abandoned, whether it be hsz project is abandoned, whether it be hs2 or the triple lock or whatever it might be, whether they feel the same way, is another matter. attacks

from labour — same way, is another matter. attacks from labour on _ same way, is another matter. attacks from labour on suella _ same way, is another matter. attacks from labour on suella braverman, - same way, is another matter. attacks | from labour on suella braverman, but let's move the guardian. fracking ban and pensions in spotlight, as the last remnants of the truss legacy. the last remnants of the truss lea . ., �* , the last remnants of the truss lea . legacy. that's right. the fracking fan is very _ legacy. that's right. the fracking fan is very good _ legacy. that's right. the fracking fan is very good news. _ legacy. that's right. the fracking fan is very good news. there - legacy. that's right. the fracking fan is very good news. there is l legacy. that's right. the fracking i fan is very good news. there is very little _ fan is very good news. there is very little evidence that fracking has positive — little evidence that fracking has positive benefits in terms of our energy— positive benefits in terms of our energy sustainability, itjust positive benefits in terms of our energy sustainability, it just does not create — energy sustainability, it just does not create enough of a supply, but there's— not create enough of a supply, but there's lots — not create enough of a supply, but there's lots of environmental downsides and it is very unpopular with constituents right across the country. — with constituents right across the country. so — with constituents right across the country, so i think that is a very good _ country, so i think that is a very good thing _ country, so i think that is a very good thing. there is going to be this big — good thing. there is going to be this big ram on pensions. both sunak and hunt _ this big ram on pensions. both sunak and hunt have not committed to keeping — and hunt have not committed to keeping the pensions triple lock. it would _ keeping the pensions triple lock. it would lead to a sort of 10% increase in the _ would lead to a sort of 10% increase in the pension next year, and that

probably. — in the pension next year, and that probably. if— in the pension next year, and that probably, if they are going to look for spending cuts, is probably something that should be looked at over tax— something that should be looked at over tax credits for low— paid parehts. _ over tax credits for low— paid parents, for example, which have been _ parents, for example, which have been cut— parents, for example, which have been cut by— parents, for example, which have been cut by significant lien real terms — been cut by significant lien real terms since 2010. but you are right, this all— terms since 2010. but you are right, this all takes place within the context— this all takes place within the context of this big political row about— context of this big political row about suella braverman now and there is been _ about suella braverman now and there is been breaking developments in that story— is been breaking developments in that story tonight. we have seen the tory party— that story tonight. we have seen the tory party chairman say that there were _ tory party chairman say that there were multiple breaches and very much was not _ were multiple breaches and very much was not the _ were multiple breaches and very much was not the case that suella braverman was owning up to it, she was done _ braverman was owning up to it, she was done after the evidence was put to her _ was done after the evidence was put to her and — was done after the evidence was put to her. and there is also a new story— to her. and there is also a new story in— to her. and there is also a new story in the _ to her. and there is also a new story in the daily mail tonight suggesting that earlier in her very short— suggesting that earlier in her very short tenure, i should say, as home secretary. _ short tenure, i should say, as home secretary, she has been subject to another— secretary, she has been subject to another investigation that involved mi5, another investigation that involved m15, another of the inquiry, so i think— m15, another of the inquiry, so i think we — m15, another of the inquiry, so i think we can expect this to blow up into a _ think we can expect this to blow up into a very—

think we can expect this to blow up into a very big political row over next _ into a very big political row over next couple of days. gk, into a very big political row over next couple of days.— into a very big political row over next couple of days. 0k, stay with the guardian. _ next couple of days. 0k, stay with the guardian, rosa. _ next couple of days. 0k, stay with the guardian, rosa. mentioned i next couple of days. 0k, stay with | the guardian, rosa. mentioned the fracking ban and the pensions in the spotlight, but has he changed his view on issuing more licenses for north sea oil and gas? i view on issuing more licenses for north sea oil and gas?— north sea oil and gas? i think keein: north sea oil and gas? i think keeping it _ north sea oil and gas? i think keeping it pretty _ north sea oil and gas? i think keeping it pretty tight - north sea oil and gas? i think keeping it pretty tight at - north sea oil and gas? i think keeping it pretty tight at the i keeping it pretty tight at the moment, and he certainly said that he would consider more windfall taxes, which would be interesting, but we have never really got from rishi sunak, his views on the climate emergency of what he plans to do... he climate emergency of what he plans to do... , climate emergency of what he plans to do... _ ., climate emergency of what he plans todo... ., , to do... he did say he would stick to do... he did say he would stick to the twin _ to do... he did say he would stick to the twin energy _ to do... he did say he would stick to the twin energy manifesto, - to do... he did say he would stick i to the twin energy manifesto, didn't he? he to the twin energy manifesto, didn't he? ,, . ,, ., , , to the twin energy manifesto, didn't he? ,, a ., , , ., he? he did. sticking to it seems to be a loose — he? he did. sticking to it seems to be a loose thing _ he? he did. sticking to it seems to be a loose thing at _ he? he did. sticking to it seems to be a loose thing at the _ he? he did. sticking to it seems to be a loose thing at the moment. be a loose thing at the moment —— 2019 manifesto. as we all know, he will have to make tough decisions. borisjohnson made a play of real issues and claims to be big on that and we will have to go ahead and see whether he doesn't. fik. and we will have to go ahead and see whether he doesn't. i}!(. it is all up whether he doesn't. 0k. it is all up for crabs, whether he doesn't. 0k. it is all up for grabs, i think. onto _

whether he doesn't. 0k. it is all up for grabs, i think. onto the - for grabs, i think. onto the express. — for grabs, i think. onto the express, because - for grabs, i think. onto the express, because they - for grabs, i think. onto the | express, because they focus for grabs, i think. onto the - express, because they focus on the pension xxx again. this is a paper behind the tories —— pension triple lock. ijust wonder behind the tories —— pension triple lock. i just wonder whether behind the tories —— pension triple lock. ijust wonder whether rishi sunak will feel the same sort of pressure from the party's most loyal supporters? pressure from the party's most loyal su orters? . pressure from the party's most loyal sopporters?— pressure from the party's most loyal su orters? . ,, ., ,., supporters? yeah, i think the reason wh it is supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good _ supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good to _ supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good to be _ supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good to be a _ supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good to be a very _ supporters? yeah, i think the reason why it is good to be a very big - why it is good to be a very big political— why it is good to be a very big political row... why it is good to be a very big political row. . ._ why it is good to be a very big political row... sonia, i think we havejust_ political row... sonia, ithink we have just lost — political row... sonia, ithink we have just lost you, _ political row... sonia, ithink we have just lost you, let _ political row... sonia, ithink we have just lost you, let me - political row... sonia, ithink we have just lost you, let me just i political row... sonia, i think we| have just lost you, let me just go to rosa while we try and an actor i can see your mouth moving, your lips moving! flan can see your mouth moving, your lips movinu! . ,, can see your mouth moving, your lips movinu! . , ., ., can see your mouth moving, your lips movingi— we - can see your mouth moving, your lips movingi— we can- i moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent — moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent. sorry _ moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent. sorry about _ moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent. sorry about that. - moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent. sorry about that. i - moving! can you hear me? we can. excellent. sorry about that. i was i excellent. sorry about that. i was 'ust excellent. sorry about that. i was just saying... i excellent. sorry about that. i was just saying---_ excellent. sorry about that. i was just saying... i am not sure it was your fault! _ just saying... i am not sure it was your fault! laughter _ yourfault! laughter the your fault! laughter the reason yourfault! laughter the reason why this is going to be such— the reason why this is going to be such a _ the reason why this is going to be such a political row is the welfare

bill is _ such a political row is the welfare bill is one — such a political row is the welfare bill is one of the biggest areas of government spending, so the first area to _ government spending, so the first area to look probably would be universal — area to look probably would be universal state pension, which has gone _ universal state pension, which has gone up~~~ — universal state pension, which has gone up... we universal state pension, which has gone ppm— universal state pension, which has one u... ~ . ., gone up... we have lost rosa now! you 'ust gone up... we have lost rosa now! you just paused. — gone up... we have lost rosa now! you just paused, you _ gone up... we have lost rosa now! you just paused, you are _ gone up... we have lost rosa now! you just paused, you are back- gone up... we have lost rosa now! youjust paused, you are back on, | you just paused, you are back on, rosais you just paused, you are back on, rosa is gone. can you carry on speaking?— rosa is gone. can you carry on speaking? rosa is gone. can you carry on s-ueakin ? ., ,., , ., speaking? the reason it will be a big political— speaking? the reason it will be a big political row _ speaking? the reason it will be a big political row is _ speaking? the reason it will be a big political row is because - speaking? the reason it will be a big political row is because the i big political row is because the conservatives overwhelmingly draw their support from the over 50s, their support comes from those over 50 and _ their support comes from those over 50 and over— their support comes from those over 50 and over 60, voters of retirement a-e, 50 and over 60, voters of retirement age. an— 50 and over 60, voters of retirement age, an effect that the order you are. _ age, an effect that the order you are. the — age, an effect that the order you are, the more likely you are to turnout — are, the more likely you are to turnout in _ are, the more likely you are to turnout in elections and the more those _ turnout in elections and the more those boats are weighted in seats that count, the younger peoples votes _ that count, the younger peoples votes seem to be quite concentrated in densely— votes seem to be quite concentrated in densely popliteal areas, it does -ive in densely popliteal areas, it does give older— in densely popliteal areas, it does give older age groups a bigger swing over politics than younger age

groups— over politics than younger age groups -- _ over politics than younger age groups —— densely populated areas. when _ groups —— densely populated areas. when you _ groups —— densely populated areas. when you look at the housing market and the _ when you look at the housing market and the housing crisis and effect that they— and the housing crisis and effect that they are increasing numbers of people _ that they are increasing numbers of people in— that they are increasing numbers of people in their 20s and early 30s and younger who will never ever on their own _ and younger who will never ever on their own home, it isjust completely, house prices are too expensive. — completely, house prices are too expensive, and we have not seen governments address that, where governments address that, where governments have done more for, for example. _ governments have done more for, for example, the state pension, that is a good _ example, the state pension, that is a good thing, in the sense of it keeps — a good thing, in the sense of it keeps pensioners out of poverty, but it is also— keeps pensioners out of poverty, but it is also a _ keeps pensioners out of poverty, but it is also a very generous policy, it is also a very generous policy, it is also a very generous policy, it is a _ it is also a very generous policy, it is a very— it is also a very generous policy, it is a very universal policy. yeah, it is a very universal policy. yeah, it will— it is a very universal policy. yeah, it will be — it is a very universal policy. yeah, it will be a — it is a very universal policy. yeah, it will be a big role because that is where — it will be a big role because that is where conservatives disproportionately draw their support— disproportionately draw their support and were the express does proportionally draws its readers from _ proportionally draws its readers from as— proportionally draws its readers from as well, which is why they've mounted — from as well, which is why they've mounted this campaign. compassionate conservatism. — mounted this campaign. compassionate conservatism, what _ mounted this campaign. compassionate conservatism, what the _ mounted this campaign. compassionate conservatism, what the government - conservatism, what the government has had as its lodestar at the moment. let's go the times, sunak, education can be our silver bullet. at a time when budgets will be cut,

or efficiency savings, interesting he wants to introduce a new baccalaureate. talk us to the story. really interesting. really early in his premiership to be doing this. the times of at an early indication, looking at all levels but focus particular on technical education, and trying to make it as much of the prestige route into learning as an academic route, and apparently rishi sunak agrees. he is talking about a baccalaureate which would mean that post—16, young people would study a much broader range of subjects and they would also be new or newly funded technical colleges where the new t—levels would be prized and hot and it would be a kind of way to say that there are routes into further education for people who want to

study a broader range of subjects. also interesting, apparently he wants to counter that, honing down the number of subjects studied in universities and making that much more streamlined, so the new education secretary, interestingly enough, she left school at 16, she did go back into higher education later on, but this is something that you would think they have been thinking about for a while, perhaps during that first leadership campaign over the summer. interesting, sonia, that this is one of his first priority, because education is so important at a young age to get people on the right track. . . age to get people on the right track. . , , �* ., track. yeah, it is why blair said his priorities _ track. yeah, it is why blair said his priorities were _ track. yeah, it is why blair said his priorities were education, i his priorities were education, education _ his priorities were education, education and education, tony blair, former— education and education, tony blair, former prime minister, back in the late i990s~ — former prime minister, back in the late 1990s. so the thing about this and the _ late 1990s. so the thing about this and the reason why i am cynical is that every— and the reason why i am cynical is that every single postwar prime minister— that every single postwar prime

minister has pledged to create a world—class vocational system, to put vocational education on a par with non—vocational education, with more _ with non—vocational education, with more academic qualifications, and we have had _ more academic qualifications, and we have had a _ more academic qualifications, and we have had a lot of warm rhetoric about _ have had a lot of warm rhetoric about it — have had a lot of warm rhetoric about it from governments of all colours — about it from governments of all colours but we have never really seen _ colours but we have never really seen that — colours but we have never really seen that sup change and i think there _ seen that sup change and i think there are — seen that sup change and i think there are two issues. there is a real— there are two issues. there is a real funding issue. there are two issues. there is a realfunding issue. for there are two issues. there is a real funding issue. for example we subsidise _ real funding issue. for example we subsidise the higher education of young _ subsidise the higher education of young people going to university at 18 or 19. _ young people going to university at 18 or 19. to — young people going to university at 18 or 19, to the tune of around 25— 18 or19, to the tune of around 25— 18 or 19, to the tune of around 25— £30,000 per young person. we spent hardly— £30,000 per young person. we spent hardly anything on average for young people _ hardly anything on average for young people who do not go to university. there _ people who do not go to university. there is— people who do not go to university. there is a _ people who do not go to university. there is a massive gap in funding, big social— there is a massive gap in funding, big social injustice. and the other thing _ big social injustice. and the other thing it— big social injustice. and the other thing it is— big social injustice. and the other thing it is not socially mixed enough. _ thing it is not socially mixed enough. we have this assumption in society— enough. we have this assumption in society that — enough. we have this assumption in society that if you're middle—class you go— society that if you're middle—class you go to — society that if you're middle—class you go to university and if not, you might— you go to university and if not, you might do— you go to university and if not, you might do something vocational, and that we _ might do something vocational, and that we really need to be about how we tackle _ that we really need to be about how we tackle that and change that and

make sure — we tackle that and change that and make sure that there's a greater diversity— make sure that there's a greater diversity of young people, not just going _ diversity of young people, not just going to _ diversity of young people, not just going to academic training and education after 18 but also vocational.— education after 18 but also vocational. �* . . education after 18 but also vocational. �* , ., ., vocational. but he is wanting to focus on technical _ vocational. but he is wanting to focus on technical colleges - vocational. but he is wanting to focus on technical colleges for i vocational. but he is wanting to | focus on technical colleges for a printer ships and things as well? honestly, every prime minister has said... _ honestly, every prime minister has said... l _ honestly, every prime minister has said... . . honestly, every prime minister has said... . , , said... i agree, but he is saying the other— said... i agree, but he is saying the other aspect _ said... i agree, but he is saying the other aspect of _ said... i agree, but he is saying the other aspect of education i said... i agree, but he is saying - the other aspect of education needs to be pursued as well. let's move on. no mention of suella braverman on. no mention of suella braverman on the mail's splash, but it's rishi's migrant precious headache, rosa, and these latest figures, yes, are significant —— crisis headache. 38,000 migrants crossed the channel this year. . 38,000 migrants crossed the channel this ear. . , , ., ., this year. , and this is another very striking — this year. , and this is another very striking example - this year. , and this is another very striking example of- this year. , and this is another very striking example of how i very striking example of how different rishi sunak is to liz truss. liz truss was quite liberal when it came to immigration. she favoured much more of an open border policy, which is why she did clash

with suella braverman. rishi sunak, we are told, takes a more conservative small c approach, and that will please the mail, who are highly things in evidence today given by one of the heads of border force of crossings of small boats over the channel and the fact that this now really seems to be dominated by albanians, and he had this extraordinary statistic that between one and 2% of the mail population of albania, later he clarified it is between the age of 20 and a0, have crossed in small boats across the channel when you consider only 50 crossing 2020, and i think it was 12,000 this year, thatis i think it was 12,000 this year, that is an awful lot... [30 i think it was 12,000 this year, that is an awful lot. . ._ i think it was 12,000 this year, that is an awful lot... do you mind if i 'ust that is an awful lot... do you mind if i just get — that is an awful lot... do you mind if i just get sonia's _ that is an awful lot... do you mind if i just get sonia's use _ that is an awful lot... do you mind if i just get sonia's use on - that is an awful lot... do you mind if i just get sonia's use on this? i if ijust get sonia's use on this? it brings up the rwanda programme, the uk bill of rights, dominic raab's return to the cabinet as

well, sonia? i raab's return to the cabinet as well. sonia?— raab's return to the cabinet as well, sonia? ,, , ,., ., well, sonia? i think it is important to ut well, sonia? i think it is important to put these _ well, sonia? i think it is important to put these figures _ well, sonia? i think it is important to put these figures in _ well, sonia? i think it is important to put these figures in the - to put these figures in the long—term context of asylum claims in the _ long—term context of asylum claims in the uk. _ long—term context of asylum claims in the uk. that is people fleeing very often, the majority of them, conflict. — very often, the majority of them, conflict. the majority are granted asylum _ conflict. the majority are granted asylum in— conflict. the majority are granted asylum in the uk. if you look at the numbers. _ asylum in the uk. if you look at the numbers, yes, their increasing numbers— numbers, yes, their increasing numbers of people try to get to the uk by— numbers of people try to get to the uk by crossing the channel. it is because — uk by crossing the channel. it is because other routes have become tighter. _ because other routes have become tighter, particularly in the wake of the pandemic and us leaving the eu for example, if you look at asylum applications, they are lower than they were — applications, they are lower than they were at their height in the early— they were at their height in the early 2000. we have far fewer applications per head than do france or germany, so we obviously... it is terrible _ or germany, so we obviously... it is terrible if— or germany, so we obviously... it is terrible if criminal gangs the brooch — terrible if criminal gangs the brooch we know the argument are exploiting — brooch we know the argument are exploiting desperate people, whether their economic migrants or asylum—seekers, getting them to make dangerous— asylum—seekers, getting them to make dangerous crossings across the channel — dangerous crossings across the channel and charging them for it, and we've — channel and charging them for it, and we've got to tackle that. the way to _ and we've got to tackle that. the way to do — and we've got to tackle that. the way to do that is not to try and make —

way to do that is not to try and make a — way to do that is not to try and make a much harsher environment when you get— make a much harsher environment when you get here. _ make a much harsher environment when you get here. we know that does not work. _ you get here. we know that does not work. and _ you get here. we know that does not work. and it — you get here. we know that does not work. and it is wrong to say that our system _ work. and it is wrong to say that our system cannot cope with the number— our system cannot cope with the number of— our system cannot cope with the number of asylum applications. that is not _ number of asylum applications. that is notjust— number of asylum applications. that is notjust true number of asylum applications. that is not just true to say. they are lower— is not just true to say. they are lower than— is not just true to say. they are lower than they were the high point. they are _ lower than they were the high point. they are lower than they are for france — they are lower than they are for france and _ they are lower than they are for france and germany. i think there is a tendency— france and germany. i think there is a tendency to exaggerate figures and say, a tendency to exaggerate figures and say. this— a tendency to exaggerate figures and say. this is— a tendency to exaggerate figures and say, this is an expert initial increase! _ say, this is an expert initial increase! when you put it in the context — increase! when you put it in the context of— increase! when you put it in the context of our system, it is lower than _ context of our system, it is lower than it _ context of our system, it is lower than it used — context of our system, it is lower than it used to be.— than it used to be. let's and with the ft, than it used to be. let's and with the ft. below — than it used to be. let's and with the ft, below the _ than it used to be. let's and with the ft, below the pictures - than it used to be. let's and with the ft, below the pictures of- the ft, below the pictures of protesters commemorating mahsa amini's death, the iranian kurd who died in the custody of the morality police, a0 days and served death, purchase around iran, hundred and a0 dead. but below that, german attempts to legalise cannabis clouded by concern among neighbours. this would be quite something of a

germany to become the world's largest regulated national market for cannabis, as part of the schengen agreement, involving so many other european countries. yeah. many other european countries. yeah, citin: the many other european countries. yeah, citing the idea — many other european countries. yeah, citing the idea is _ many other european countries. yeah, citing the idea is that _ many other european countries. yeah, citing the idea is that by _ citing the idea is that by decriminalising cannabis, they would regulated more. the concern is there is a black—market trade, are consuming forms that are not healthy and want to get on top of it. a corner of it, i think it is, who consume cannabis —— a quarter of... this was part of the coalition deal last year and it follows on from the states, where president biden recently pardoned large swathes of cannabis users, but as you say it has run up because the fact that germany is a landlocked country, it has borders with other european countries which do not want to

criminalise cannabis and so through the auspices of the eu, they will have to have legal negotiations, and the ft does not exactly spell out what happens if they are dealing with objections and germany want to plough ahead, but it does not celik it is clear cut. == plough ahead, but it does not celik it is clear cut.— it is clear cut. -- does not sound like. sonia. _ it is clear cut. -- does not sound like. sonia, what— it is clear cut. -- does not sound like. sonia, what are _ it is clear cut. -- does not sound like. sonia, what are your- it is clear cut. -- does not sound| like. sonia, what are your views? it is clear cut. -- does not sound i like. sonia, what are your views? i think it is a very legitimate objective that germany has got here. there _ objective that germany has got here. there are _ objective that germany has got here. there are risks associated with cannabis— there are risks associated with cannabis use, particular sustained use. _ cannabis use, particular sustained use. if— cannabis use, particular sustained use. if you — cannabis use, particular sustained use, if you are young. it is thought to be _ use, if you are young. it is thought to be linked — use, if you are young. it is thought to be linked to psychosis. but many people _ to be linked to psychosis. but many people think in other ways is less harmful— people think in other ways is less harmful a — people think in other ways is less harmful a drug and alcohol, and there _ harmful a drug and alcohol, and there is— harmful a drug and alcohol, and there is this real concern, as rosa wasjust— there is this real concern, as rosa wasjust saying, about more dangerous forms, skunk, being on the market. _ dangerous forms, skunk, being on the market. and _ dangerous forms, skunk, being on the market, and in countries where it is regulated. — market, and in countries where it is regulated. i— market, and in countries where it is regulated, i have been to washington state in _ regulated, i have been to washington state in the _ regulated, i have been to washington state in the united states, it is very tightly regulated. you know

what _ very tightly regulated. you know what proportion of psychoactive substances there are and can as you are buying — substances there are and can as you are buying. there is a realargument for legalisation to try and make it safer. _ for legalisation to try and make it safer. but— for legalisation to try and make it safer, but also the fact that it does — safer, but also the fact that it does criminalise young people and we know that _ does criminalise young people and we know that around the world it disproportionately decriminalising us black— disproportionately decriminalising us black and brown young people, so that is— us black and brown young people, so that is one _ us black and brown young people, so that is one the reasons why it is really— that is one the reasons why it is really picked up in the us, it is black— really picked up in the us, it is black young man in present disproportionate for pressing marijuana, even though actually... 0k. marijuana, even though actually... 0k~ i_ marijuana, even though actually... ok. i am _ marijuana, even though actually... ok. i am sorry to cut you off, but interesting topics to and on. sonia, rosa, thank you very much indeed, like to get you both back. that is it for our second look at the papers —— glad to get you both back. hello, i'm marc edwards with your sport.

and what a night of drama in the champions league. three british sides in action, but for those at the tottenham hotspur stadium, it was unbridled joy swiftly followed by crippling disappointment and surprise as spurs drew 1—1 with sporting lisbon. a win for tottenham would have sent them through to the last 16. and they started in the worst possible way. former spurs player — who else? — enfield—born marcus edwards putting the portuguese side ahead on 22 minutes. that looked like it would be the winner, but rodrigo bentancur drew the hosts level with ten to go. and then real controversy and chaos. harry kane scoring with the last kick of the game, but a lengthy var decision eventually ruled it out for offside. that will rumble on. antonio conte incredulous, sent off in the aftermath. spurs stay top, but nothing's decided in group d. no such problem for liverpool. they are into the last 16 after beating ajax 3—0 in amsterdam, mo salah opened the scoring after latching onto jordan henderson's cross. darwin nunez made up for missing an open goal with a pinpoint header.

and liverpool wrapped up their win with salah providing the pass for harvey elliott to finish. good finish from the youngster, 3—0. it's going to take something miraculous for rangers not to finish bottom of the group and go out of europe after they lost to napoli 3—0. giovanni simeone scored twice to put rangers boss giovanni van bronkhurst under more pressure. and a late goalfrom romelu lukaku crowned inter milan's a—0 win against viktoria plzen. the victory meant barcelona were out of the competition before they lost 3—0 to bayern munich. but inter are through. it was raining goals in the women's champions league, as chelsea hammered albanian side vllaznia 8—0 — sam kerr with four, three for pernille harder and one for katerina svitkova. kerr secured her hat—trick on the hour mark. a very, very easy game for the londoners.

the albanian side are yet to have a shot on target in the competition after two games, while chelsea extend their lead at the top of their group. there's another big date in the diary for the lionesses at wembley. sarina wiegman's euro 2022 winners england will take on copa america femenina champions brazil in the very first women's finalissma. they will play in april ahead of the world cup in australia and new zealand injuly. the foreign secretary, james cleverly, has said that lgbt football fans who attend the world cup in qatar should be willing to show some compromise. cleverly has been criticised for his comments to radio station lbc — after stating that anyone travelling to the tournament should be "respectful of the host nation", where same—sex activity is illegal. labour have called the remarks "tone—deaf". england will in all likelihood need to beat hosts australia, as well as sri lanka and new zealand, in order to progress at the t20 world cup. they lost to ireland by five runs in a rain—affected game. captain jos buttler admits the performance was not up to standard.

i just don't think we were consistent enough. i thought we let them score both sides of the wicket. there were some favourable conditions for bowling as well. we had everything in ourfavour, electing to field knowing we had everything in ourfavour, winning the toss and electing to field knowing there was weather around, and we didn't take advantage of that. england football legend stuart pearce has been giving the benefit of his experience to england's rugby league side, as they prepare for their final group match of the world cup against greece this weekend. pearce, who is a big fan of the sport, gave a motivational talk to players and staff at their training base in wigan, as adam wild reports. a noticeably relaxed atmosphere here at england's training camp in wigan today. with two wins from two so far, attention now beginning to turn to that quarterfinal here in wigan. they do still have one group match to play. it comes on saturday against greece at bramhall lane. we've learned today the side will be

captained by george williams. coming into the side as well, st helen'sjoe batchelor as well as wigan's kai pearce—paul. now, i've been catching up with pearce—paul, and he has been telling how delighted he is to get his chance in this world cup and how excited he was when he got that call from shaun wane. it's a massive honour and it's something you always dream of as a little kid, watching the big boys play on the tv and, "one day, i want to be like him." now, that is me, and i am sure there will be young kids watching me saying, "i want to be like that one day," and, yeah, it is a massive, massive, proud moment for me and my family as well. it makes me feel good, making them proud. that's my big drive in my life. what is really interesting is the influences shaun wane has been taking, notjust from inside rugby league but from other sports entirely. he told me he has been speaking to gareth southgate, the england men's football manager, this morning and getting his take on england's progress, and also at the camp today

we have seen former england football captain stuart pearce. he has been addressing the players, he has been giving a motivational talk about playing in major tournaments and about leadership, and shaun wane has been telling me how valuable it is to have someone like him with his experience inside the camp. he is a massive rugby league fan. he is evaluating our game and he spoke about his experiences in full and what makes him the england champion he is. he has loved it. he's enjoyed watching us train. i am not bothered how we do it, but listening to talented people is what's going to get us there. i know the power that a successful england team in this tournament will have for the sport and across the country. the excitement it generates. it looks as though it is growing in momentum at the moment, so i am looking forward to growing the game and more importantly england getting closer to the final. england take on greece in their final group game on saturday. this is, of course, greece's first world cup, so as shaun wane said, there is an element

of unpredictability about them, but england will be desperate to take that momentum from those two opening wins into the quarterfinals, when the pressure really starts. kick—off on saturday at bramall lane is 2.30pm. the match is live on bbc one. and that's all your sport for now. from me, marc edwards, and the rest of the team, bye—bye.