tv Newscast BBC News October 28, 2022 7:30pm-8:01pm BST
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i am going to break the number one rule of making news. not a huge amount has happened today, but that in itself is news. it is certainly a change. my feeling on day three of the rishi sunak era is thatjust, the thing is that we're talking about feel much more normal already, like classic politics. and i think they will look far as mission, not accomplished, but the start of the project is how they want it to be, which is, to use the line from michael gove, the new levelling secretary, boring is back. and just thinking of it in news terms, we have spent, those of us here at westminster, running around like mad things for quite a while, and today, i was on the radio briefly this morning but that was it because there has not really been any news here.
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and it has gone from gale force to the most gentle of breezes. and yet there are still things happening. so, today, the suella braverman reappointment controversy rumbles on. with the opposition parties trying to keep that alive. and the odd tory backbencher saying, we're not sure. so, she was the home secretary who quit because she broke the ministerial code because she sent an e—mail from her private account and then six days later she was back in thejob. and labour will keep going with it, as you say there are conservative mps who are really not comfortable with it. some are not keen on her brand of conservative politics, but even beyond that there are those whojust think, hang on. it is one thing doing something, breaking rules, acknowledging you have made a mistake, and she has acknowledged all of that, and having your career resuscitated a year later or two years later, there are loads of examples of that, and the sense that water has passed under the bridge, but six days... so, i think there will be lots more scratching around it,
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about the story that she set out as far as what happened versus what others say happened. and then i think the other thing will be, is there a broader sense, particularly given the job she is doing, around, can she be trusted with sensitive information? because of course, there is a sensitive information in all governmentjobs, but if you are in the home office, because of your interactions with the intelligence agencies and all the rest of it, there really is, so they will be questions about that. and we got confirmation from downing street on thursday that rishi sunak will not go to the cop27 climate conference in egypt starting next week which is of course the sequel to the cop26 conference which happened in glasgow with lots of bells and whistles. is it a major dealfor him not to be going to that? people are saying it is because people are saying that he ought to be turning up at something as pivotal as far as so many see it in terms of the planet's future to not be going.
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from his perspective, politically, a week ago he did not know he would be prime minister. he has gone from backbencher to prime minister, there are these great domestic issues that he has to deal with, he has got the best part of five days out of the country in about three weeks when he goes to the 620 summit in bali, he will come back and hours later, the auckland's autumn statement will happen. so clearly, he has got a lot on and i suspect he thinks that that is one trip... i think the original plan was liz truss was originally going to do a day trip, or maybe one night, a quick visit and then come back, so i think that calculation will be that in the grand scheme of priorities, perhaps they can send someone else. and the big news in radio land today is that lbc has been stealing lots of listeners from the bbc. so, in the best tradition of, if you can't beat them, join them, we are nowjoined by andrew marr from lbc. very strange being back in these familiar surroundings. have you brought some listeners with you, that is what we want to know? i wouldn't know about that.
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you are being much nicer than i thought you were going to be, i am tongue—tied about that. so, for months on end after you switch to lbc, every time i got on a bus, you were on the side of it. very embarrassing. it was all about you getting your voice back, as you have said about being beyond the bbc and being able to offer your opinion again. how did you find that? it did sound as if my last year at the bbc had had laryngitis all the way through. but it's a really interesting question, i talked to sheela fogarty who is on lbc and was on the bbc for years and years when i moved over and we had brunch together and i said, "how do you move from being a bbc voice to being an lbc voice?" she said what you do is every day you come in and you peel a little bit of bbc off and then one day you come back in and you think that is too much and used
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to get back on again. and that is a good way of thinking about it. i am not somebody who wanted to come onto the radio and tell people how to vote for, this person is disgusting or whatever, but i do like fairly vigourous and aggressive analysis of the news, and i am learning to do that much more. i was a newspaper guy before i came to the bbc and diane really to the bbc and i'm really going back to being the newspaper reporter with a kind of crumpled notebook in my back pocket that i was when i started in my 20s. we have seen a classic example today because we just talked about the suella braverman situation, and we did the bbc thing of some people say this, some people say this, here are some options of the way the story could go, but on lbc tonight, you said, i think she should go. i said i thought it was a whopper of a mistake by the new prime minister, and apart from anything else this is a really important time for rishi sunak, these are the days when he can present himself afresh to the country and turn the tory narrative around and people can get a look at him for the first time, and the whole news cycle is being
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taken up by suella braverman, so in terms of presenting himself it has been a disasterfor him. we've got tory mps and ministers are saying that she will have to go, this story is not going away. i think we will see more of it in the sunday newspapers, perhaps before that, everyone is piling in and i think there are times in life when you have to cut loose and say, this was an appointment i made which is not working out and just get rid of the whole thing as quickly as possible. the way to do it would be to persuade suella braverman to say, i have become a distraction, i don't want to be a distraction to this wonderful new conservative government and so i have decided to step aside. but if she doesn't he has to show her the door. you will know that when liz truss got rid of kwasi kwarteng there was a lot of flak for her about the judgment she initially had by appointing him, is there a danger for rishi sunak that thisjust looks like a huge mistake and he has to ultimately take some of the responsibility for that? you're absolutely right, he takes a hit. he certainly takes a hit that happens. but is it better to take one cricket and then
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everything moves on again, the news moves on, or let it run for days and weeks? i would say better take the hit upfront. let's take a step back from the specifics of the suella braverman story to where we find ourselves at the end of an extraordinary handful of months in politics and an even more extraordinary last six or seven weeks. i've been conscious that every superlatives has kind of been maxed out and i was warned when i started thisjob, be careful with superlatives, because you run out of space, but... by previous political editor andrew marr. no, it was james landale who said be careful of the superlatives. a wise fellow! but to put this delicately, your heritage as a political reporter is greater than ours because you have been around for longer, so, can you put this period into some sort of context? it has been unprecedented, hasn't it?
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it is very like my early days reporting on robert walpole�*s first administration. no, i am going to think of this... what was it like when america voted for independence?! it was extraordinary! no, i am going to think of this for ever as the autumn of the three prime ministers, when they were falling like autumn leaves. and i am going to think of liz truss as of somehow our version of the winter queen, who was elizabeth of bohemia, way back, much mocked because of the short period that she was in there, and now liz truss is out, i keep thinking, what is it like being liz truss? she is on holiday at the moment, i saw kwasi kwarteng for the first time in the house of commons just now, he wasn't enormously friendly, he seemed to me to be a bruised person but i make you think how politics burns through friendships, destroys relationship, throws people out, really brutally.
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you would have to do something pretty horrible at the bbc to be thrown out as briskly as liz truss was. we haven't seen anything like this before, quite clearly. i think it's all because of the after—effects of brexit, i think after brexit, the conservative party, triumphant, wasn't absolutely sure what brexit was really for, what it was about, was this the moment when britain did do this singapore on thames thing? was this a moment for slashing regulations, getting read of employment laws, cutting taxes and going for a really fast, aggressive growth policy? although we going to sort of fold back to being a kind of another centrist, social democratic country, outside the eu? and i think that argument has been throbbing through the conservative party year after year after year, and expelling group after group, leader after leader, and this, let's hope, is the culmination and the end of that process because we are all exhausted. why could this be the culmination of the process? well, the conservatives have come this close, about an inch apart, from an absolute financial meltdown, a real proper financial crash,
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for the whole country, which would not only be humiliating but would give us economic scarring for years and years ahead. very close to that. and they have also been looking right at extinction level polling, polling which would see them obliterated as a serious political force. some of the polls suggest that the conservatives would come back with three or four mps, or maybe even two, in which case the leadership contest should be very interesting indeed. so, they have had these two events, and if after those they have not started to think again, we must pull together, hang together or hang separately then they are completely deranged. they are not. they finally understand, this is absolutely, rishi sunak is absolutely their last chance. one of liz truss his final act was a chat on_ one of liz truss his final act was a chat on downing street monday chat on downing street one of liz truss his final act was a chat on downing street monday night. many people say sealed her fate.
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chris _ many people say sealed her fate. chris is_ many people say sealed her fate. chris is talked a few times what it's like — chris is talked a few times what it's like when you get a phone call from downing street you're summoned it you _ from downing street you're summoned it you know _ from downing street you're summoned it you know there's going to be a bil it you know there's going to be a big moment. iwonder it you know there's going to be a big moment. i wonder if you could go back into _ big moment. i wonder if you could go back into your memory banks, what was the _ back into your memory banks, what was the most important phone call or the most _ was the most important phone call or the most important summoning of the moment— the most important summoning of the moment you'll this is it. there was the peter mandelson resignation, the one that sticks in my head was gordon brown was about to call a general election and, frankly, had he done so at that point, new labour might have survived another five years but he delayed. and i got the call to go into downing street and interview him in downing street and i didn't know which way he would go. an when he said, andrew, i've decided there's not going to be a general election, i thought, well... a very good impression! i have disliked the dissipate my jaw to get it right! the right thing for the country is not have a general election and i thought,
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well, and i remember doing the interview and go to the window and looking down and there pacing furiously around was adam boulton of the sky news team and i thought, yeah! it's funny because when i got the call to do the interview with the former prime minister, part of the dawning process, it was obvious she was in a lot of trouble, but the very taking of the call showed how much trouble she was in because the only reason i was being invited was because of the amount of trouble she was in. you don't talk to chris mason unless you're in real trouble! but if you are called within an hour and a half to go, come in in 90 minutes, think, blimey, they're in trouble. and in this case definitely. can i ask, again with the longer view, we've seen what happened in the polls lately and labour storming ahead but also how quickly borisjohnson�*s politcal fortunes shifted. what is your take on
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where things are at? is there an inevitability about labour doing well at the next election or do you think the conservatives can pull it back under rishi sunak? i appreciate it's hard to stargazer. it is, i think when you get very extreme swings in polls you can expect them swinging back again. keir starmer has been saying to the shadow cabinet all week for goodness' sake, stop tweeting your delight about the polls, stop talking about it, they will change again and i think he's absolutely right. we talked about the short attention span, we all have short memories these days and i think three or four months of the conservatives holding things together, three or four months of the bond markets we all know so much about these days improving the currency moving back up again, and perhaps the price of gas coming down and so forth, people will look again at the two parties. i think it's all to play for. i do think keir starmer are getting better by the day,
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i thought his performance at pmqs this week was becoming quite strong and he is becoming more steely and more like a leader. you can see he has the belief in his eyes that may be did not have, even a few months ago so i think it will be a real fight. it all depends on the extent to which, when they are asked, what is your growth policy, the labour party as a really clear answer they can express in three sentences, shorter than i'm doing and people at home really remember. if they can do that, they will win the election because people will have had the conservatives for a long time, remember, we've had 12 years of anaemic growth. i'm pleased to say we can now say hello to sort of rishi sunak! we're joined now by shri patel who play the then chancellor in the new sky drama about the covid period. hello. i quite enjoyed the first episodes so thank you forjoining us. what is it like seeing your character becoming prime minister? it's an interesting one.
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a lot of friends messaging me saying congratulations and i'm, like it's not actually me! but it's all good fun —— a lot of friends. i think it was something that was going to happen kind of looked like it would happen for a long time. so it is interesting that he has got their. it is crazy how liz truss is now out of number 10. but it's cool in some ways, seeing it happen as well. tell me about how you go about, when you're playing a character, you are trying to replicate or dramatise reality, how you go about absorbing the real—life character. whether it is how they look, their manner or demeanour, their dress or speech patterns, how do you go about trying to become them? kind of like in a unique situation, there are a lot of film and tv
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where people play real people but this was so unique because these people were very prevalent at the time and the story we were telling was onlyjust a year ago. the way i went about it was just to try to look up as much as i could about rishi. there is lots of youtube, he has his own channel now, so there is plenty of material to look at mannerisms, voice qualities. he is a lot more well spoken than i am. but also there is a lot of information about him and also costume and make—up and all that stuff helps you get into it. in the show, we don't really see any of his personal life or anything but i still did a lot of research into that and i think as an actor, i like to prepare in that way and get as much information and then go on to set and play the scene that is written. what were the standout mannerisms or characteristics that you are trying to betray?
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was there a way that you stood that you noted from him or something about his personal trying to get a or emulate? i think, vocally from he is a lot more well spoken than me, just feeling it in my mouth, his placement is more at the front of his mouth. i saw a few youtube videos, the way sits, sits up a bit more upright than i do, he likes to cross his legs at some point. i also noticed the way he uses his hands when he has something in his hands like a folder or paperwork. he loves a binder! he does love a binder! when we had them in the cabinet room i felt like there a certain way that rishi would hold it that i wouldn't. things like that, that's how i came to it. do you think there's another side to him that we don't see?
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i keep going back to that conversation he had with boris johnson on saturday evening at millbank tower where boris johnson was clearly using all the force of his personality in his rhetoric and trying to bulldoze rishi sunak into standing aside and rishi sunak, because he had the numbers wasn't having it. he seems to be tough. i think he is but that doesn't mean he will have to do that in a brute and aggressive way, he just stands his ground. i think going back to what you said earlier but the list he comes up with, he's a very intelligent man and he wants to make sure that all the information is given then he is making his arguments and that's why he comes up with the lists. he is very strong in his opinions and he makes sure he puts forward his arguments but in a very respectful way. i think that is the energy. but what do i know, i've never even met him!
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thank you very much and thank you for entertaining us and we look forward to seeing you in the next thing you are doing. cheers. andrew, you know what is coming next, who would you to play you? if you allowed ascetics, a kenneth branagh with huge cheers! ——ears. lovely to see you and lovely to listen to you. thank you very much, great to talk to you. by the time you are watching or listening to this episode, the government has probably called fresh elections in northern ireland because after elections there a few months ago, the political parties that have not been able to form a government because the dup, the democratic unionist party, say they will not nominate a speaker to the northern ireland assembly which is kind of the key that unlocks the whole process, until they arere big mega changes to the northern ireland protocol which is the northern ireland bit of the brexit deal. because they have been talking and talking and not nominating and nominating, it has ground to a halt
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and the deadline has passed which means probably the only route is to have new elections. what does all this mean? the person to tell us at our ireland correspondent emma bardy, correspondent emma vardy, and what a day to be at stormont? that clock has been ticking down to midnight, a bit like cinderella and by the time many people are listening to this, it will add are listening to this, it will add past midnight —— we are in the period where an election has what does that mean for the governance of northern ireland, to use a very brainy word? in terms of people's lives and decisions made in northern ireland? it sounds like the decisions have been on hold anyway, just on hold more? everything has been on hold to a point. we are approaching halloween so let's use a metaphor, we have had a zombie government where ministers have been in post but not able to really take any big political decisions. the wheels have been turning
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but you can't make much progress or get targeted to support people for the cost of living crisis or things like that and that's been difficult when it comes to responding to the needs of changing circumstances. that is where you run into problems with a political stalemate like this. when we hit midnight, from then on, the ministers are no longer in their roles and it is a civil servant running things and even less can be done. they can keep stuff going but only really do the very basics which doesn't help people's lives when you have changing circumstances like a fuel crisis or problems elsewhere that create problems for schools or gp surgeries, where you need politicians to take measures that relate to the local circumstances. we enter this period of stagnation, we are into potentially this campaigning period if the secretary of state comes out and calls an election, which he had threatened to do at one minute past midnight. and then you are on the campaign trail with politicians up to the point of the 15th of december which will be election day.
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so merry christmas! we are into all that. the thing is with this, i kind of get it is set down in the law that this is the process that has gone through in this situation with an election and the rest, but the election might not actually solve anything. that is what everybody has been saying, the parties don't really want another election, they say it will cost loads of money and what does it achieve? the electorate might deliver pretty much the same result or something a bit different but the problems remain. there is no indication the dup is changing its position, it will not go back into an executive unless it gets bigger changes changes to the protocol. in fact it wanted to see the legislation to overwrite the protocol fully enacted before it said it would go back into government. you are right, an election does not change everything and people have been arguing that already. what might change something is getting some differences on the northern ireland protocol and a course that is out
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of the control of the people who sit here at stormont, it is all decided between the british government negotiating with the eu. i know i'm asking you to be a bit of a pollster, that difficult think of reading the public mood of the whole place, and you have been in the us, but how are people feeling about this? is there a sense of frustration or any appetite for an election when they watch how things are going on at stormont? what's the sense you get from people? huge frustration, stop anybody on the street and asked him on the street and asked them about the stalemate at stormont and they are tearing their hair up but they were also doing that a few years ago would happen in 2017 and we had another political crisis. loads of frustration but what does that turn into when people come to the ballot box? actually, voting habits are pretty well ingrained here and people still go back and vote for the nationalist or unionist parties but what we seem in the last couple of elections, particularly the last one, was more people moving to the centre ground and voting for the cross community party the alliance who are now the third biggest party,
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and we also saw the dup particularly losing votes but we sure that the people moving to a harder line party, the tuv even harder on the northern ireland protocol. so the message sent back from an election doesn't really help solve the problem. one argument that is getting louder with all of this is that the centre ground alliance party i think this cross community power—sharing mandatory coalition that was set up because the northern line's history of conflict is getting out of date and doesn't work for people any more put it was set up when almost everybody was voting either or nationalist but now there is a growing centre ground and they are saying that maybe we should have a voluntary coalition so parties don't have so much of a veto on things and they can't hold you to ransom and walk out of the executive and leave it in a stalemate like we are seeing. i expect those kinds of arguments to get louder to say that this power—sharing rules that were set up all because of the good friday agreement 25 years ago, bringing to an end the conflict,
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they are getting out of date and this political crisis just ewels and this political crisis just feul the argument even more. thing is, that would involve a wholesale rewiring of how northern ireland is governed and given the current government model, even though it clearly has all sorts of potential problems with it, or leave us that can mean the whole thing is suspended, underpinning all of that is the good friday all of that is the good friday agreement, which is the centrepiece of the peace settlement of 20 odd years ago put of that rewiring that some talk about would be mighty hard to pull off? and that's all from this episode of newscast, thank you for watching and listening will be back. we'll be back. goodbye. good evening. well it was a pretty decent day of weather across most of the country today.
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overnight tonight we've got some dry weather, clear skies around initially but through the early hours, cloud and rain pushing and across parts of the southwest and drifting north in towards the midlands. and a bit of mist of murk with that too. temperatures once again on the mild side, we're looking at town and city values around about ten to 12 c. a touch cooler in the far north of scotland with some clear skies here. looking ahead to the weekend and we hold the mild conditions. there will be some rain at times but also some sunshine too. first thing on saturday we've got that cloud in we've got that cloud and rain pushing its way northwards across much of the midlands, wales and in towards the north england, reaching northern ireland and the south of scotland. behind it for much of the east midlands and the southeast and northeast anglia dry with some sunshine. feeling of warmth in the sun, temperatures around 22 degrees but more cloud further west. and after that, find start in scotland, the cloud and rain
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pushing in towards the central belt. and then into tomorrow evening, pushing its way further north. and looking ahead toward sunday, well, we've got low pressure in the atlantic once again, that is driving conditions sending weather fronts our way and there will be some outbreaks of rain. initially across parts of the southeast tonnes sunday a cold front brings in cloud and patchy outbreaks of rain initially, perhaps turning a wee bit heavier through the afternoon through parts of kent and in towards cambridgeshire. further west it's a little bit drier but also a rash of showers. these could well be on the heavy side, perhaps the odd rumble of thunder in the mix too and quite breezy if not windy through parts of the irish seacoast. inot monday now and another weather front brings heavy rain across parts into monday now and another weather front brings heavy rain across parts of ireland and pushing its way towards western parts of scotland in towards wales later on. i had a bit much of england having some sunshine, just the chance of a few showers around. temperatures around about mid to high teens for most. as we head into monday evening, for halloween that band of rain still with us and also a number of showers
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likely to develop across england working their way northwards. for the week ahead, it remains unsettled. you can see that with the icons there. but also look at the temperatures, look at the numbers beginning to decline. temperatures coming back down to close or where they should be for the end of the week this time of year. this weekend clocks go back overnight one hour. that is the forecast.
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