her majesty the queen died, day that her majesty the queen died, and so much changed. seven weeks later, we are now in a week of rishi sunak�*s first premises questions and angela rayner is back on political thinking. angela rayner is back on political thinkina. . _, angela rayner is back on political thinkina. ~ _, . ~ angela rayner is back on political thinkin~.~ | angela rayner is back on political thinking._ i made l angela rayner is back on political. thinking._ i made it. thinking. welcome back. i made it. how are you _ thinking. welcome back. i made it. how are you finding _ thinking. welcome back. i made it. how are you finding this _ how are you finding this roller—coaster, because that is what it is. i roller-coaster, because that is what it is. ., ., , . it is. i thought when i was elected in 2015 that _ it is. i thought when i was elected in 2015 that the _ it is. i thought when i was elected in 2015 that the wheels _ it is. i thought when i was elected in 2015 that the wheels fell - it is. i thought when i was elected in 2015 that the wheels fell off - in 2015 that the wheels fell off politics then we had the eu referendum, we had ourfront bench suddenly became the backbench mf backbench became the front bench, we had numerous challenges in the labour party, it was an incredibly surreal fast paced time and of course the last seven weeks, as you say, have been a roller—coaster in itself. say, have been a roller-coaster in itself. . ., ., , itself. he valued in the commons since 2015, _ itself. he valued in the commons since 2015. you — itself. he valued in the commons since 2015, you have _ itself. he valued in the commons since 2015, you have had - itself. he valued in the commons since 2015, you have had five - itself. he valued in the commons i since 2015, you have had five prime minister is, all tory, i might say. yes, and a lot has happened. i wouldn't predict the next month, the way things are, we have had three

prime in three months, i thought it would slow down but it has got more chaotic. ~ , ., ., ., , ., chaotic. when you are in opposition, that slightly — chaotic. when you are in opposition, that slightly changes _ chaotic. when you are in opposition, that slightly changes how _ chaotic. when you are in opposition, that slightly changes how you - that slightly changes how you picture yourself because you are pitching as the personality of the tory leader of the day. it was very noticeable at the beginning of pmqs keir starmer, and i thought he was sending a message to his own party as well as to the country, congratulated rishi sunak as the first british asian to become prime minister. i first british asian to become prime minister. ~ ., first british asian to become prime minister. ~' ., _, , minister. i think the whole country, then it was — minister. i think the whole country, then it was diwali _ minister. i think the whole country, then it was diwali as _ minister. i think the whole country, then it was diwali as well, - minister. i think the whole country, then it was diwali as well, the - then it was diwali as well, the whole country was just, this is a historical moment, and it is a historical moment, and it is a historical moment, and it is a historical moment but i think one of the things i talk about a lot if that people, i get a lot of abuse because of the way i speak and my background but i also get a lot of people saying it is so refreshing and inspiring to see someone like you in politics that i can look to who reminds me of me so i am sure thatis who reminds me of me so i am sure that is exactly the same for many people who saw rishi sunak become prime minister, the door of number ten, thinking wow, this is something

i can do, and were inspired by that, i can do, and were inspired by that, i think that is something to celebrate.— i think that is something to celebrate. �* . ., . ., i think that is something to celebrate. �* . . ~ ., ., celebrate. but nadia whitham, leader -- labour mp, — celebrate. but nadia whitham, leader -- labour mp, said _ celebrate. but nadia whitham, leader -- labour mp, said it _ celebrate. but nadia whitham, leader -- labour mp, said it wasn't - celebrate. but nadia whitham, leader -- labour mp, said it wasn't good - —— labour mp, said it wasn't good for relations and she had to take the tweet down, why other people in the tweet down, why other people in the labour party who can't commit? i think, there are issues around rishi sunak wealth and obviously he was a chancellor who was increasing taxes for working people at the time when obviously he has great wealth and his wife and the family were avoiding tax through non—dom status but it wasn't the time of the place for that, you can congratulate and see a prime minister of asian heritage getting into number ten and seeing how amazing that is and congratulating them on that basis without bringing everything else into it. and i think sometimes, especially the fast pace of politics, you know, it can get ahead of itself where it sometimes it is

nice to stop and look at something for what it is and say this is a good thing. you might not like everything that person stands for but this is a good thing, and consulates do that for me as well, you know, they don't agree with where i am politically. —— conservatives do that for me as well,. ~ , ., ., ., well,. when you were on here at last, we talked _ well,. when you were on here at last, we talked a _ well,. when you were on here at last, we talked a lot _ well,. when you were on here at last, we talked a lot about - well,. when you were on here at last, we talked a lot about your. last, we talked a lot about your life story, your personal story, what people will also know is you have now seen to when prime ministers, both conservative, the first one premised was a conservative, there is something that the labour party, isn't there, which is they broke the ceiling in many ways to get black and ethnic minority people and department, to get many more women into parliament, but not in leadership positions. this but not in leadership positions. sis you but not in leadership positions. is you say, we are the most diverse events we have got in a moment clash in the labour party but we haven't had a female black asian minority ethnic neighbour of the labour

party, i think that will change but at the moment we have elected keir starmer, i think he is doing an exceptionaljob, we have a more diverse shadow cabinet, i would be deputy prime minister under the next labour government and we will keep you champion and challenging that, we proffer landmark legislation on and the women's shortlist to enable us to get the position we are at. i think we are making great stacks but i agree, i think it comes also from our membership that there is that kind of push now, that search towards when kier is no longer leader, then we do want to have a different leader, you know,... iwho different leader, you know,... who think they realise _ different leader, you know,... who think they realise they are behind the tories? and that's why some labour people weren't willing to celebrate she snack�*s success is because he is as wealthy as he is and he has married into wealth as well. it is a problem being too rich if you are promised? i

well. it is a problem being too rich if you are promised?— if you are promised? i don't think it is but i if you are promised? i don't think it is but | think _ if you are promised? i don't think it is but i think one _ if you are promised? i don't think it is but i think one of— if you are promised? i don't think it is but i think one of the - if you are promised? i don't think it is but i think one of the things l it is but i think one of the things that was infuriating, i suppose, and the hypocrisy that people felt was that rishi sunak when he was chancellor was putting taxes up for working people any sane again there are going to be difficult choices but as we know now, his family were avoiding tax through non—dom status... i avoiding tax through non-dom status... . ., ., ~ avoiding tax through non-dom status... _, ., ~ , ., ., status... i could take you through the arguments — status... i could take you through the arguments about _ status. .. i could take you through the arguments about how- status... i could take you through the arguments about how his - status... i could take you through i the arguments about how his wife status... i could take you through - the arguments about how his wife now pays tax here and in america. yes. pays tax here and in america. yes, because that _ pays tax here and in america. yes, because that was _ pays tax here and in america. ieis because that was exposed, but the point people that hear that would say, hang on a minute, i don't mind you being wealthy but don't preach to us who are struggling... if you are not paying taxes and doing the right thing when you are the chancellor. you could celebrate rishi sunak as a british success story, that is a success story for our country, that is a symbol of what we want to aspire to. exasperation something

labour believe in?— aspire to. exasperation something labour believe in? absolutely, and we have many _ labour believe in? absolutely, and we have many wealthy _ labour believe in? absolutely, and we have many wealthy labour- labour believe in? absolutely, and| we have many wealthy labour party members and supporters out there because people that have come from humble beginnings that to create great wealth, they understand, people that haven't had wealth bestowed upon them because that wellit —— relatives were wealthy, people who crafted from the shop floor and got their wealth, they absolutely get it may the challenges that others face and is not pulling that others face and is not pulling that ladder up, it is about making sure you give opportunities to others, you understand and recognise... one of the things that frustrates me, people say to me you should be a tory because you have done well for yourself, you have worked hard and done well, but it fails to understand that there is opportunities that are snatched away from people and therefore it doesn't enable them to get on, you know, when people said we have had conservative ministers saying to people work a bit longer, get a betterjob, they are not truly

appreciating the difficulties that people have. just appreciating the difficulties that peeple have-— appreciating the difficulties that --eole have. , , ., ., ., people have. just before we move on to that point — people have. just before we move on to that point at _ people have. just before we move on to that point at being _ people have. just before we move on to that point at being out _ people have. just before we move on to that point at being out of- people have. just before we move on to that point at being out of touch . to that point at being out of touch which you described, even before he became prime minister, you gave a speech saying that far too many politicians and influences in power don't have an understanding of what it is like. are you agreeing with that famous quote from peter mandelson, are you saying you are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich? this intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich?— intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich? as long as they -a their getting filthy rich? as long as they pay their taxes- — getting filthy rich? as long as they pay their taxes. which _ getting filthy rich? as long as they pay their taxes. which peter - getting filthy rich? as long as they pay their taxes. which peter of. pay their taxes. which peter of course said. yes, we do want people to be able to get on in life. to course said. yes, we do want people to be able to get on in life.— to be able to get on in life. to be filthy rich? _ to be able to get on in life. to be filthy rich? yes, _ to be able to get on in life. to be filthy rich? yes, if _ to be able to get on in life. to be filthy rich? yes, if they're - to be able to get on in life. to be filthy rich? yes, if they're going l filthy rich? yes, if they're going to be filthy. _ filthy rich? yes, if they're going to be filthy. i— filthy rich? yes, if they're going to be filthy, i wouldn't - filthy rich? yes, if they're going to be filthy, i wouldn't use - filthy rich? yes, if they're going to be filthy, i wouldn't use that| to be filthy, i wouldn't use that term, but people who are going to have great wealth, it is about showing that wealth and understanding when that wealth comes from. 50 understanding when that wealth comes from, ,., understanding when that wealth comes from, y., ., �* understanding when that wealth comes from. ., �* ., understanding when that wealth comes from. ., , from. so you won't attack rishi sunak for— from. so you won't attack rishi sunak for being _ from. so you won't attack rishi sunak for being rich? - from. so you won't attack rishi sunak for being rich? i - from. so you won't attack rishi sunak for being rich? i won't i from. so you won't attack rishi - sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being _ sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being rich _ sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being rich but _ sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being rich but i _ sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being rich but i will- sunak for being rich? i won't attack and for being rich but i will attack. and for being rich but i will attack him if he doesn't use the wealth in a way that is responsible, we talk

about rich people paying a bit more and try to push the burden of what was a couple of weeks ago and a budget that absolutely decimated our economy and now there is a black hole, do not make working people who are already paying more through their mortgages and through the cost of living, pay for that mistake. it is about what he prioritises as a prime minister and shows that he understands what it is like for other people. i don't expect him not to be rich. , . ., �*, to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but _ to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not _ to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not to _ to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not to be _ to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not to be a _ to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not to be a the - to be rich. so, it is clear, he's rich, but not to be a the poor. let's go back to the speech you made that too few people understand what it is like. you, clearly, given your background, do understand what it is like. i was reading something you wrote about your mum, who of course had mental health problems as well as being in poverty. yes. coming home with a ting of dog food was, thinking she was bringing a treat. my thinking she was bringing a treat. my mum can't read or write, still can't, so she used to look at the pictures when she was to go around

the supermarket, and she once came home with about 15 tins of processed peas because they were in the reduced ireland didn't have prepper on them. she thought the dog stew was steak —— she thought the dog food was stew. because of her inability to read and write, she never went to school, she was bullied at school so as she says in her own words, ifollowed bullied at school so as she says in her own words, i followed the fair, and she went around and did that, she grew up in wythenshawe with 12 siblings and they were very poor. i would say even more poorer than what might have bringing was and i was, i was on benefits, my mum and dad were on a gyro, fortnightly, and we struggled as kids,... 50 on a gyro, fortnightly, and we struggled as kids,...— on a gyro, fortnightly, and we struggled as kids,... so you have some memories, _ struggled as kids,... so you have some memories, for _ struggled as kids,... so you have some memories, for people - struggled as kids,... so you have - some memories, for people worrying if they can't pay their energy bills, does that bring back

memories?— bills, does that bring back memories? ~ ., ., , ., ., memories? we had an immersion heater that never went — memories? we had an immersion heater that never went on _ memories? we had an immersion heater that never went on because _ memories? we had an immersion heater that never went on because it _ memories? we had an immersion heater that never went on because it was - that never went on because it was too expensive, and we had complete —— concrete floors and threadbare carpet. -- concrete floors and threadbare caret. ~ . , ., -- concrete floors and threadbare caret. ~ ., i. ., -- concrete floors and threadbare caret. ~ ., ., carpet. what did you do if you didn't hit the _ carpet. what did you do if you didn't hit the water? - carpet. what did you do if you didn't hit the water? we - carpet. what did you do if you | didn't hit the water? we boiled carpet. what did you do if you - didn't hit the water? we boiled the kettle for things _ didn't hit the water? we boiled the kettle for things that _ didn't hit the water? we boiled the kettle for things that were - didn't hit the water? we boiled the i kettle for things that were needed, we went to my nana's, we had a deep fat fryer that everything went in to cope, and we went to my nana is on a sunday because my nana lives in a high—rise block of flats so the heating was continuous and it was part of her rent, so my nana used to have a 20 washer, wash our clothes for us on the sunday, make us katty ash, corn beef hash, with a big lie forfresh bread which ash, corn beef hash, with a big lie for fresh bread which was amazing because we got to eat as much as we possibly want their meal had a bath with air. we had a rank order of who went in the bath, my brother first, me and my sister, then misys mum. the same water. one bath a week at your man's?—

your man's? one bath a week at my nana is on — your man's? one bath a week at my nana is on a — your man's? one bath a week at my nana is on a sunday _ your man's? one bath a week at my nana is on a sunday evening, - your man's? one bath a week at my| nana is on a sunday evening, without belly is full to the brim with this full food flash one third. you have referred in — full food flash one third. you have referred in the _ full food flash one third. you have referred in the past _ full food flash one third. you have referred in the past about - full food flash one third. you have . referred in the past about sometimes when you tailor these stories people have this phrase for you, you know, poor little laufer nanjing, but you think it is important to have that knowledge when you are taking political decision. cash poor little orphan angella. my friend who has seven children, she had six on the pandemic, most of them were at school age and she is a key worker, she works in a local supermarket, and overnight she literally had no means of getting to work on getting the kids to school so i gave her my car because we had two cars that were at the time as a family so i didn't use mind that often because i was in london so i gave her, it wasn't an amazing car, it was an old golf, but i gave her the car and she was just golf, but i gave her the car and she wasjust in tears golf, but i gave her the car and she was just in tears because it meant

so much to her that she was able to carry on working and take the kids to school because she couldn't do it on the transport system at the time because everything was in chaos and she needed to continue to work on the children needed to go to school. i was incredibly lucky because my son rang me up and told me that the bailiffs had sent a letter and that they were going to be at the door and that it was a bill that his partner, they were in so much debt, semi—debts come into the house that she thought she had put plans in place for all of those debts and then there was one that had missed that she hadn't seen and then it got to the bailiffs stage and ijust didn't have the money. this was recently? this was recently, they didn't have the money, they were panicking, they will come in to take the children toys. he is a proud man, he doesn't want to ask his mum for support, man, he doesn't want to ask his mum forsupport, but man, he doesn't want to ask his mum for support, but it shows the difficulty that people are in, and it reminds me of when i first became

an mp in 2015 there was a young lad from my constituency, kane, a care lever, he put the man in his bank account for his friend, his fur cash first property and bonga had managed, had the ability to take that money that he owed in debt straight out of his bank account so therefore he didn't have the money for his round that the social worker had given him and he hung himself, at 18. and ijust think, young people are under that much pressure now and people are under that much pressure now, people don't choose their poverty. it is not a luxury to be in that poverty situation. and i hear people say their kids have got the best clothes. i remember scouring the charity shops when i was a young mum, i had ryan when i was a young mum, i had ryan when i was 16, andi was a young mum, i had ryan when i was 16, and i rememberwalking was a young mum, i had ryan when i was 16, and i remember walking to the posh area of our area i would

get my income support and i would walk for a couple of miles to the charity shops and it was like christmas to me, to the posh area, and it was like christmas to me if i could get a nice outfit for ryan in the charity shop. i felt i had could get a nice outfit for ryan in the charity shop. ifelt i had done something, had been a good parent and made to achieve something. it's not whether people have lots of money, it is the way they provide for theirfamilies. money, it is the way they provide fortheirfamilies. d0 money, it is the way they provide for their families.— money, it is the way they provide for their families. do you sometimes have to do this _ for their families. do you sometimes have to do this with _ for their families. do you sometimes have to do this with colleagues? - for their families. do you sometimes have to do this with colleagues? the i have to do this with colleagues? the labour party has become a very middle—class party. and there aren't that many people who have got your stories or your experience. yes. that many people who have got your stories or your experience.— stories or your experience. yes, but the truth is — stories or your experience. yes, but the truth is there _ stories or your experience. yes, but the truth is there is _ stories or your experience. yes, but the truth is there is also _ stories or your experience. yes, but the truth is there is also across - the truth is there is also across the truth is there is also across the whole of the house people that have come from working—class backgrounds but for some reason, politicians don't talk about it, whether it is because they buy thing, i do get levelled at me it is and talking about her again, it is not about me, it is about the experiences people like me have faced, that it is a good thing that

people have talked about their experience and a background in that way but for politicians it is almost as if you are not good enough. i get so much abuse from people saying pregnant at 16, no qualifications, she must be thick, well i'm clearly not thick because i am one of the most successful politicians of my generation, my ability and my tutors have been, by any measure, as good as anybody else. in that stupid. i think the more people can see talent, notjust in terms of you've got this academic qualification, the better it is. �* ., , better it is. another thing they say is champagne _ better it is. another thing they say is champagne socialist. _ better it is. another thing they say is champagne socialist. dominic i better it is. another thing they say i is champagne socialist. dominic raab when he was deputy prime minister, he was again up against you at your premises questions and because you had been seen as having some posh fears and going to the opera where people are in posh frocks, he called

you champagne socialist.— people are in posh frocks, he called you champagne socialist. again, that is iuite you champagne socialist. again, that is quite comical _ you champagne socialist. again, that is quite comical because _ is quite comical because working—class people know that you spend your last time trying to achieve and get the best thing, you got a bit of money and you have worked hard for it, try and get the best you can so again it is the psychology of working class people that they don't understand and that place is so much cheaper than glastonbury and nobody would bat an eyelid if they saw me wondering around glastonbury in a field full of mud. yes, the hundred odd cred. i do think it is a bit of snobbery, to be quite honest with you. another iuote, be quite honest with you. another quote. peter _ be quite honest with you. another quote, peter mandelson - be quite honest with you. another quote, peter mandelson said - be quite honest with you. another- quote, peter mandelson said recently that i could for labour is what he called harrow man harrow woman, aspirational people, people who have made it good, small—town, and i don't want what he calls woke activists militant trade unionists looking down on them as saying they are too rich and not liberal enough and i'd logical and sound. i

are too rich and not liberal enough and i'd logical and sound.- and i'd logical and sound. i think the most important _ and i'd logical and sound. i think the most important thing - and i'd logical and sound. i think the most important thing for - and i'd logical and sound. i think the most important thing for our party is about instead of going how we can divide people, based on whether it is these so—called woakes arguments or whether it is these are you for against trade unions, these are distractions from what are you going to do to improve my life? that is what the voters ask me? what are you going to do? i have heard you don't like the tories but what are you going to do to improve my life and can you have got ability in delivering it?— and can you have got ability in deliverin: it? , . ., , ., delivering it? they certainly have heard ou delivering it? they certainly have heard you say — delivering it? they certainly have heard you say you _ delivering it? they certainly have heard you say you don't - delivering it? they certainly have heard you say you don't like - delivering it? they certainly have heard you say you don't like the l heard you say you don't like the tories. i want to play a clip of dead ringers. tories. i want to play a clip of dead ringers-— tories. i want to play a clip of dead ringers. first in the shop toda is dead ringers. first in the shop today is angela _ dead ringers. first in the shop today is angela from - dead ringers. first in the shop - today is angela from westminster. usually, _ today is angela from westminster. usually, when i see anti—knickknacks, l usually, when i see anti—knickknacks, i| usually, when i see - anti—knickknacks, i would usually, when i see _ anti—knickknacks, i would think you were _ anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory— anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some _ anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some and _ anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some and i _ anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some and i would - anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some and i would do - anti—knickknacks, i would think you were tory some and i would do youi were tory some and i would do you but you've — were tory some and i would do you but you've got _ were tory some and i would do you but you've got a _ were tory some and i would do you but you've got a flat _ were tory some and i would do you but you've got a flat cap _ were tory some and i would do you but you've got a flat cap and - were tory some and i would do you but you've got a flat cap and i - but you've got a flat cap and i respect — but you've got a flat cap and i respect that _ but you've got a flat cap and i respect that-— but you've got a flat cap and i resect that. . ., , ., , respect that. that was dead ringers on radio four _

respect that. that was dead ringers on radio four which _ respect that. that was dead ringers on radio four which has _ respect that. that was dead ringers on radio four which has you - respect that. that was dead ringers on radio four which has you saying l on radio four which has you saying tory some and by the sounds of it giving somebody a good punch. yes. giving somebody a good punch. yes, that is stereotypical _ giving somebody a good punch. yes that is stereotypical of northern people, we don't go around toughing people, we don't go around toughing people up. but you did say... i did say, and it was about senior tories at the time and it was about boris johnson and others at the time who had said some pretty horrible racist misogynistic homophobic things at other people, if you are a bus driver, if you worked in some of the low level, low—paid jobs, you wouldn't wear there again saying the comments the prime minister said. —— wouldn't work there again. it is the hypocrisy of dragging your finger and saying you are wrong for that but then, criminality, fraud, in terms of giving off contract and somebody who is struggling at the low level of income literally talked down to and are criminalised, and

they get away with it, it is just they get away with it, it is just the hypocrisy of it. but i have said... you did apologise. now, and that was what i was about to say, i did apologise for it and it is right that i did because in no way was that i did because in no way was that me inciting anyone to abuse a conservative mp, that is not ok, i get a myself, it is not ok to abuse politicians, it is part of our democracy. i was saying it was about motivating our men is to understand we have to win elections, there is no point in us being there in opposition, if we want to change people's lives, we have to convince people's lives, we have to convince people and win the election. the other part _ people and win the election. the other part of _ people and win the election. the other part of that impersonation of you is that you are always telling keir starmer to get going a bit, go on, give them hell, kia, stop being so dull, is that really what has to happen?

so dull, is that really what has to ha-ien? . so dull, is that really what has to ha en? ., ~' so dull, is that really what has to ha en? ., ~ ,, ., .,, happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who — happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he _ happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is _ happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop _ happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop i _ happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop i am _ happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop i am who - happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop i am who i - happen? no, i think keir starmer has to own who he is stop i am who i am. some people will say they don't like the way i speak, they don't like what i say, and that is fine, that is their opinion and that is healthy, and keir starmer has to own who he is and the way he presents himself and articulates himself, i think the country want somebody who is actually going to put the country first for a change.— is actually going to put the country first for a change. what you mean by own who he — first for a change. what you mean by own who he is? _ first for a change. what you mean by own who he is? because _ first for a change. what you mean by own who he is? because that - first for a change. what you mean by own who he is? because that is - first for a change. what you mean by own who he is? because that is his l own who he is? because that is his personality. _ own who he is? because that is his personality. we — own who he is? because that is his personality, we have _ own who he is? because that is his personality, we have very - own who he is? because that is his personality, we have very different personalities, we have the same different aims and goals and values that we are completely different people and the way in which we express ourselves is completely different, let us make it wrong, but itjust means that we are —— we articulate ourselves in different ways. articulate ourselves in different wa s. ways. peter mandelson said keir starmer has _ ways. peter mandelson said keir starmer has made _ ways. peter mandelson said keir starmer has made labour - ways. peter mandelson said keir starmer has made labour safe i ways. peter mandelson said keir| starmer has made labour safe to ways. peter mandelson said keir - starmer has made labour safe to vote for again, the question now is what for. you say you are confident of your programme, i put it to you that

if you went out in your constituency in stockport when you grow up, if you ask what they thought labour stands for, they will know much of a clue,. l stands for, they will know much of a clue,. , , stands for, they will know much of a clue,. , ., clue,. i suppose the general election. — clue,. i suppose the general election. you _ clue,. i suppose the general election, you know, - clue,. i suppose the general. election, you know, keywords clue,. i suppose the general - election, you know, keywords and clue,. i suppose the general _ election, you know, keywords and how we fight that is something that will be put together when we do it but i suppose it comes from the bottom up and the work we do in between, so for example, my green paper, that is ready to speech as soon as we get into government and we will transform the world of work. my announced conference around procurement, alanine ethics commission, said there is a lot of in—depth work that has been down that means that in all of our departments we know what we need to do from day one, we know how we will work together to tackle inequality and to make it, the country better for working people. he said the last time you are on this podcaster view are sometimes treated like a trinket. what are you

treated like a trinket. what are you treated like a trinket. what are you treated like now? i treated like a trinket. what are you treated like now?— treated like now? i thinki have earned respect, _ treated like now? i thinki have earned respect, i _ treated like now? ithinkl have earned respect, i think- treated like now? i thinki have earned respect, i think i - treated like now? i thinki have earned respect, i thinki have l earned respect, i think i have definitely managed to grow. don't forget, in 2015, i came on as a brand—new politician, i was in a special advisor of anything like that, i wasn't in the westminster bubble or anything like that, i had only been to london for a handful of times is arguing that so i came in very naive to the political process and was thrust onto the front bench that after a couple of months that have been there for seven years so i think the public have noticed meet grou, in the public eye over those years. grou, in the public eye over those ears. ~ ., , ., years. we mentioned your mum earlier, years. we mentioned your mum earlier. does — years. we mentioned your mum earlier, does she _ years. we mentioned your mum earlier, does she have - years. we mentioned your mum earlier, does she have good - earlier, does she have good politicaljudgment? she earlier, does she have good politicaljudgment?- earlier, does she have good politicaljudgment? she has good 'udiment. politicaljudgment? she has good judgment- my — politicaljudgment? she has good judgment. my daughter - politicaljudgment? she has good judgment. my daughter could - politicaljudgment? she has good judgment. my daughter could be | judgment. my daughter could be runnini judgment. my daughter could be running the _ judgment. my daughter could be running the country _ judgment. my daughter could be running the country in _ judgment. my daughter could be running the country in a - judgment. my daughter could be running the country in a few- judgment. my daughter could be i running the country in a few years' time. mi; running the country in a few years' time. ~ , , ~ , , , running the country in a few years' time. p , ~ , , , ., time. my mum is like my biggest fan. she met paul— time. my mum is like my biggest fan.

she met paul brand _ time. my mum is like my biggest fan. she met paul brand when _ time. my mum is like my biggest fan. she met paul brand when i _ time. my mum is like my biggest fan. she met paul brand when i said - time. my mum is like my biggest fan. she met paul brand when i said that l she met paul brand when i said that she could interview her as long as i could help him edit it because my mum doesn't have a filter button and i was slightly worried about exposing her to the media and as she thinks paul brown is her best mate, so every time she sees on the telly, she says, there is your friend. so every time she sees on the telly, she says, there is yourfriend. for she says, there is your friend. for eo - le she says, there is your friend. for people who _ she says, there is your friend. for people who only listen to the bbc, paul brandt is a journalist on itv. you need to meet my mum, and she listens to the radio now and she watches prime minister's questions, and she says things like, i don't see you there the other day, or sru the other day, so she is much more political than she used to be. you are only 42. _ political than she used to be. you are only 42. is — political than she used to be. you are only 42, is that _ political than she used to be. you are only 42, is that right? same —— 18 years younger than your leader, there was plenty of time for you to be the woman that proves labour can ever woman leader.— ever woman leader. possibly, ori can help the _ ever woman leader. possibly, ori can help the next _ ever woman leader. possibly, ori can help the next leader- ever woman leader. possibly, ori can help the next leader be - ever woman leader. possibly, ori can help the next leader be a - can help the next leader be a fantastic woman leader. ijust can help the next leader be a fantastic woman leader. i just want us in government. i know that sounds

like a cliche, i could have stood for leader, i chose not to the grey didn't feel i was ready for that and i wanted to learn a bit more and have a bit more experience. i do think i have had to prove and earn the respect and i still think i have got back to do to some voters, i have still got that learning to do but i just want to do what have still got that learning to do but ijust want to do what is right by the country and get us into government. i know what a labour government. i know what a labour government can do for people, i have seen it, it has changed my life, so being in opposition is not the place to be. i will take whatever we have to be. i will take whatever we have to have in order to listen to the public can gain their confidence and be in power and change things for them. . ~ be in power and change things for them. ., ,, i. ., _, ., be in power and change things for them. ., ,, ., ., ., them. thank you for coming on to critical thinking. _ them. thank you for coming on to critical thinking. next _ them. thank you for coming on to critical thinking. next month - them. thank you for coming on to l critical thinking. next month then! labour's challenge _ critical thinking. next month then! labour's challenge in _ critical thinking. next month then! labour's challenge in some - critical thinking. next month then! labour's challenge in some ways i labour's challenge in some ways parallels the challenge rishi sunak

has, how to hold together a coalition of activists, of mps, voters that can get them to power. the divisions are starker in the tories, they are much more obvious, but there are going to be people in the labour side in the months, maybe a year or two to come, who desperately want to attack what you see lack for being a millionaire, who want to say that he isn't really a symbol of black and asian people making it in this country, and who want to get out on the streets are on lines to protest against tory cuts. angela rayner, and keir starmer, are trying to hold on back, to appeal to what they think our middle ground voters. it is going to be quite a challenge. for watching.

exceptionally mounted today across—the—board but especially across—the—board but especially across the south—east where we had seen 23 celsius in the afternoon. tomorrow it will be mild but not as warm as today, a mixture of sunshine and showers, the showers will be blustery across western areas because we are closer to this area of low pressure, more isobars here, hence the stronger winds. our air sources coming up from the subtropics which is why it is so mild, you can see here from the deeper orange colours. overnight, the rain will clear away from scotland, turns dwyer for the rain will clear away from scotland, turns dwyerfor many, an area of cloud and rain was such a push into east anglia and blustery showers will follow across northern ireland ransom irish sea coast selling to the south—west and again a mild mic to come, those of ten to 14 celsius across the uk. don't i4 celsius across the uk. don't forget the clocks go back one hour so hopefully an extra hour in bed

for many of us for sunday morning. however, low pressure will be nearby so it will be another unsettled day, quite windy, blustery for all areas with winds touching gale force, particular because the south—west corner of england. showers will affect the north and west of the country, early rain clears and the south—east, brightens up in the afternoon, some good spells of sunshine but it will be quite windy, especially in the north, the west, southwest, plus a 40 may be 50 miles an hour. mild for the time of year but not as warm as three saturday afternoon. those showers will clear northwards and then it is quieter for a time through sunday night before the next system starts to make inroads across the far west of the country during the early hours of monday morning. temperature —wise, ten to 13 degrees, so it stays very mild indeed. enter monday and tuesday, we can see low pressure takes over once again, it is going

to be quite windy, wet at times, thatis to be quite windy, wet at times, that is a theme i think for the rest of the week, low pressure system is hurtling in from the atlantic means it will stay unsettled, windy with gales that time, heavy rain interspersed with sunshine and showers and it will start to turn cooler. you can see that on the outlook chart, temperatures returning a little bit closer to the seasonal norm. bye for now.

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