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and nigel nelson who's political editor of the sunday people and sunday mirror. hello to you by. a quick look at the front pages with our viewers. the scottish mail on sunday reports the kremlin hat liz truss�*s mobile phone. the scottish mail on sunday reports the kremlin hacked liz truss�*s mobile phone. the same story is on the front of the daily star sunday which reads �*lettuce liz hacked by mad vlad'. the observer leads on �*number ten alarm at borisjohnson�*s plans to attend cop27�*, after rishi sunak was criticsed for not going to to the climate conference next month. the sunday mirror reads �*fossil fuels aid rise of rishi', reporting that quarter of the prime minister's donations this year came from supporters with interests in oil, gas and aviation. politics on the front of the sunday telegraph as well —
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its headline reads �*sunak to stamp out �*woke policing'. a picture ofjair bolsonaro on the independent, as brazil prepares to choose between a current and former president in its election. the sunday times shows a picture of rescue operations in seoul, south korea, where at least 146 have been killed in a stampede during halloween celebrations. flavour of the sunday morning papers. joe and nigel, lovely to have you back. let us kick off, the scottish mall on sunday, the kremlin hacked truss�*s mobile is the headline. nigel camille to take away. headline. nigel camille to take awa . , , , ., ., away. yes, this is the revelation that liz truss _
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away. yes, this is the revelation that liz truss as _ away. yes, this is the revelation that liz truss as foreign - away. yes, this is the revelation l that liz truss as foreign secretary had her_ that liz truss as foreign secretary had her phone hacked. the suspicion is it was_ had her phone hacked. the suspicion is it was done by russian spies but that is_ is it was done by russian spies but that is not— is it was done by russian spies but that is not actually confirmed. the problem _ that is not actually confirmed. the problem obviously is that the kind of things— problem obviously is that the kind of things that were on it were things— of things that were on it were things about the war in ukraine, there _ things about the war in ukraine, there would have been information about— there would have been information about arms shipments which are highly— about arms shipments which are highly sensitive. and the most extraordinary thing about those stories— extraordinary thing about those stories that the cabinet secretary simon _ stories that the cabinet secretary simon case, and borisjohnson, then prime _ simon case, and borisjohnson, then prime minister, then decided not to reveal— prime minister, then decided not to reveal the _ prime minister, then decided not to reveal the fact that the foreign secretary's phone had been hacked, on the _ secretary's phone had been hacked, on the basis she was then competing for the _ on the basis she was then competing for the tory— on the basis she was then competing for the tory leadership. that is the bit i for the tory leadership. that is the bit i find _ for the tory leadership. that is the bit i find the most extraordinary, on the _ bit i find the most extraordinary, on the basis that certainly keep the secret— on the basis that certainly keep the secret for— on the basis that certainly keep the secret for national security reasons but to _ secret for national security reasons but to keep — secret for national security reasons but to keep it secret for political ones _ but to keep it secret for political ones doesn't seem quite right somehow. ones doesn't seem quite right somehow— ones doesn't seem quite right somehow. �* ., , , , somehow. but there has been this accusation. _ somehow. but there has been this accusation, has _ somehow. but there has been this accusation, has in _ somehow. but there has been this accusation, has in fact, _ somehow. but there has been this accusation, has in fact, this - somehow. but there has been this accusation, has in fact, this whole | accusation, has in fact, this whole
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time, the last few months, certainly, that it was party interest but ahead of national interests, jo? interest but ahead of national interests, 10?— interest but ahead of national interests, jo? , , , ., interests, 10? yes, completely, and we are interests, jo? yes, completely, and we are still— interests, 10? yes, completely, and we are still seeing _ interests, 10? yes, completely, and we are still seeing that _ interests, jo? yes, completely, and we are still seeing that now- interests, 10? yes, completely, and we are still seeing that now with - interests, 10? yes, completely, and we are still seeing that now with a l we are still seeing that now with a rather lopsided cabinet that rishi sunak has imposed, and i think that is right. this is a bigger story than the conservative party. because we don't know who else's phones have been hacked into or indeed how it was discovered. but according to the mail on sunday, it was a year's worth of messages that whoever did it could have accessed. but i think what is very worrying is that firstly a phone used by a foreign secretary, if indeed it was an official phone, or they say it was a personal phone, although she was foreign secretary at the time, could be hacked into and the first place. and if it was a personal phone, what on earth was she doing using it to send and be part of conversations
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and messages about matters of national security? and messages about matters of nationalsecurity? by and messages about matters of national security? by revealing that this has happened, it raises far more questions than it answers and as at the absolutely say, it goes back to the heart of it, that it was kept secret ship —— kept secret because of the conservative leadership, i would because of the conservative leadership, iwould have because of the conservative leadership, i would have thought security was more important. 50 leadership, i would have thought security was more important. so the ruestion is security was more important. so the question is why _ security was more important. so the question is why it _ security was more important. so the question is why it now _ security was more important. so the question is why it now and _ security was more important. so the question is why it now and who - question is why it now and who leaked it? front page of the daily star, i have struggled reading that headline with a straight face. my colleagues at the daily star love that _ colleagues at the daily star love that i_ colleagues at the daily star love that. i didn't think they would be running — that. i didn't think they would be running out of pans because they seem _ running out of pans because they seem to — running out of pans because they seem to have exhausted them but, no, they dont— seem to have exhausted them but, no, they don't disappoint tomorrow morning. — they don't disappoint tomorrow morning, and so they are suggesting that this _ morning, and so they are suggesting that this hack is just the tip of the iceberg.
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that this hack is 'ust the tip of the iceberg.— that this hack is 'ust the tip of the iceberg. you couldn't help yourself. _ the iceberg. you couldn't help yourself, could _ the iceberg. you couldn't help yourself, could you! _ the iceberg. you couldn't help yourself, could you! he - the iceberg. you couldn't help yourself, could you! he must| the iceberg. you couldn't help - yourself, could you! he must have been saving _ yourself, could you! he must have been saving that _ yourself, could you! he must have been saving that for _ yourself, could you! he must have been saving that for weeks! - yourself, could you! he must have been saving that for weeks! ok, i been saving that for weeks! ok, let's no been saving that for weeks! ok, let's go to _ been saving that for weeks! ok, let's go to the — been saving that for weeks! ok, let's go to the front _ been saving that for weeks! ok, let's go to the front page of the sunday times and, jo, the story here is tory greens attack rishi sunak for cop27 snap.— is tory greens attack rishi sunak for cop27 snap. alok sharma who is the outgoing — for cop27 snap. alok sharma who is the outgoing president _ for cop27 snap. alok sharma who is the outgoing president of _ for cop27 snap. alok sharma who is the outgoing president of cop26, i for cop27 snap. alok sharma who is| the outgoing president of cop26, he remains president until egypt take over of the presidency from the uk, alok sharma who is regarded quite highly for the way he chaired the summit in glasgow last year and everything else that he has done, he has really sort of managed to burnish the uk's green credentials. for some bizarre reason, he was sacked as a minister, even though he
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retains this presidential role, so he is now free to speak out, and he has spoken out against rishi sunak and criticised the prime minister's decision for not going to the cop27 summit. she is not alone. edmund band, the shadow climate jan environment secretary has said the same, —— ed miliband has said the same. many other people have said the same, borisjohnson is planning to rock up in egypt. it is really, really quite extraordinary for alok sharma, who is a man that you hear very few words from, who is now actually saying it undermines britain, and i think there are grave questions about this government's commitment to environmental measures that need to be taken as a matter of urgency. that need to be taken as a matter of uruen . ., , . , that need to be taken as a matter of uruen . ., ., ., .,
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urgency. the optics are not great. no, the urgency. the optics are not great. no. they are _ urgency. the optics are not great. no, they are not, _ urgency. the optics are not great. no, they are not, and _ urgency. the optics are not great. no, they are not, and the - urgency. the optics are not great. no, they are not, and the fact - urgency. the optics are not great. | no, they are not, and the fact that alok sharma went on record to say what _ alok sharma went on record to say what he _ alok sharma went on record to say what he said showsjust how strongly he feels _ what he said showsjust how strongly he feels about the whole thing. this is not _ he feels about the whole thing. this is notjust_ he feels about the whole thing. this is notjust about bitterness he feels about the whole thing. this is not just about bitterness about being _ is not just about bitterness about being demoted from the cabinet, i mean, _ being demoted from the cabinet, i mean. the — being demoted from the cabinet, i mean, the official reason that was given— mean, the official reason that was given for— mean, the official reason that was given for that was that because he was no _ given for that was that because he was no longer president of cup, the position— was no longer president of cup, the position was no longer one to be sitting _ position was no longer one to be sitting around the cabinet table so he was _ sitting around the cabinet table so he was given a more junior minister. i he was given a more junior minister. i don't _ he was given a more junior minister. idon't think— he was given a more junior minister. i don't think that washes, really. if i don't think that washes, really. if we _ i don't think that washes, really. if we are — i don't think that washes, really. if we are really serious about climate — if we are really serious about climate change, they should be a minister— climate change, they should be a minister in— climate change, they should be a minister in cabinet of cabinet level who is— minister in cabinet of cabinet level who is actually dealing with it, i can't _ who is actually dealing with it, i can't think— who is actually dealing with it, i can't think of anyone better to have done _ can't think of anyone better to have done that— can't think of anyone better to have done that and alok sharma. so, you done that and alok sharma. so, you do have _ done that and alok sharma. so, you do have to _ done that and alok sharma. so, you do have to question rishi sunak's commitment to let zero by 2050. well, _ commitment to let zero by 2050. well, the — commitment to let zero by 2050. well, the sunday mirror poses that
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exact question in its own story, fossil fuels and exact question in its own story, fossilfuels and rishi. this exact question in its own story, fossil fuels and rishi.— fossil fuels and rishi. this is according — fossil fuels and rishi. this is according to _ fossil fuels and rishi. this is according to the _ fossil fuels and rishi. this is according to the mirror, - fossil fuels and rishi. this is according to the mirror, that fossil fuels and rishi. this is - according to the mirror, that donors who have supported rishi sunak who between them have given about a quarter of the over half £1 million donated to the prime minister, they are supporters who have interest in oil, gas, and aviation. so, again, it raises questions, and although his excuse for not going to cop27 as there is too much going on here, of course there is too much going on here butjeremy hunt ought to be able to be during the autumn statement for the 17th of the november without the prime minister there, and as nigel says, is it rather undermines any role we have in trying to persuade other countries to behave better or to cut carbon emissions, and to be more
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environmentally aware. and frankly you can be tickling around with a budget but if you don't sort out climate change and make a commitment to it, a budget in the economy is going to be going south very quickly anyway. the going to be going south very quickly an a . ., ., anyway. the front page of the observer. _ anyway. the front page of the observer, nigel, _ anyway. the front page of the observer, nigel, qatar- anyway. the front page of the i observer, nigel, qatar lavishes anyway. the front page of the - observer, nigel, qatar lavishes -- observer, nigel, qatar lavishes —— lavishes gifts on mps in three world cup pr drive. this lavishes gifts on mps in three world cup pr drive-— cup pr drive. this is a charm offensive _ cup pr drive. this is a charm offensive by _ cup pr drive. this is a charm offensive by qatar, - cup pr drive. this is a charm offensive by qatar, and - cup pr drive. this is a charm offensive by qatar, and in i cup pr drive. this is a charm i offensive by qatar, and in total, they— offensive by qatar, and in total, they gave — offensive by qatar, and in total, they gave £250,000 worth of benefit in kind _ they gave £250,000 worth of benefit in kind to _ they gave £250,000 worth of benefit in kind to mps. these were things like stays— in kind to mps. these were things like stays in luxury hotels, business _ like stays in luxury hotels, business class flights, tickets to horse _ business class flights, tickets to horse racing. obviously for the whole — horse racing. obviously for the whole idea was to try and sell the country— whole idea was to try and sell the country to— whole idea was to try and sell the country to our parliamentarians. i'm not sure _
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country to our parliamentarians. i'm not sure it _ country to our parliamentarians. i'm not sure it hasn't worked. there has been _ not sure it hasn't worked. there has been so _ not sure it hasn't worked. there has been so much criticism of qatar over its human— been so much criticism of qatar over its human rights, especially to do with criminalising lgbt plea —— people. — with criminalising lgbt plea —— people, seven years jail for sex acts _ people, seven years jail for sex acts i— people, seven years jail for sex acts. i rather hope that our fans behave — acts. i rather hope that our fans behave themselves, especially our -ay behave themselves, especially our gay fans. _ behave themselves, especially our gay fans, and respect the laws in the country that they are going to, but equally that qatar compromises and accept that i have got people from _ and accept that i have got people from around the world coming there and they— from around the world coming there and they must treat them with some gentleness and look after them. nigei. _ gentleness and look after them. nigel, did we say if we picked up in this article that any of the mps had been named in this article? fir this article that any of the mps had been named in this article? or not? there are no _ been named in this article? or not? there are no mps _ been named in this article? or not? there are no mps named _ been named in this article? or not? there are no mps named on - been named in this article? or not? there are no mps named on the - been named in this article? or not? i there are no mps named on the front page _ there are no mps named on the front page and _ there are no mps named on the front page and as — there are no mps named on the front
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page. and as far as i can see, i am sure— page. and as far as i can see, i am sure this— page. and as far as i can see, i am sure this would have been declared in members interests, no kind of breach— in members interests, no kind of breach of— in members interests, no kind of breach of that, but you do wonder about— breach of that, but you do wonder about why— breach of that, but you do wonder about why mps were taking quite so much, _ about why mps were taking quite so much, so _ about why mps were taking quite so much, so many freebies, from qatar. jo. much, so many freebies, from qatar. jo yeah, _ much, so many freebies, from qatar. jo yeah, i_ much, so many freebies, from qatar. jo. yeah, ithink much, so many freebies, from qatar. jo. yeah, i think having looked at the story, a couple of the mps are named, i can't remember their names because i don't have the page in front of me, but they are part of an all—party group which is a sort of semi—unofficial group of people with shared interests that are friends of qatar. but it is all aboutjudgment, isn't it? when you have got parliamentarians, this has come out through being declared in members interests so it is not like anyone is trying to keep it quiet, but surely you have to question why you are getting all of this fantastic hospitality that is costing thousands and thousands of pounds
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from a state that has got such an appalling human rights record, i mean, at some point, could parliamentarians learn to say no? we'll see what happens. sun expresses our finally —— our final paper. expresses our finally -- our final -a er. , expresses our finally -- our final .a er, , ., , expresses our finally -- our final n-aer. , ., , , ., . ., expresses our finally -- our final n-aer. , ., , ,., . ., , paper. this vanity pro'ect of boris johnson which h paper. this vanity pro'ect of boris johnson which was _ paper. this vanity pro'ect of boris johnson which was a _ paper. this vanity project of boris johnson which was a £250 - paper. this vanity project of boris johnson which was a £250 millionj johnson which was a £250 million yacht _ johnson which was a £250 million yacht to— johnson which was a £250 million yacht to replace britannia was never going _ yacht to replace britannia was never going to _ yacht to replace britannia was never going to get off the ground anyway but i suppose with yachts you will never _ but i suppose with yachts you will never get — but i suppose with yachts you will never get into the water now. i think— never get into the water now. i think the — never get into the water now. i think the deathknell was sealed for it at the _ think the deathknell was sealed for it at the tory party conference when jacob _ it at the tory party conference when jacob rees—mogg was briefly business secretary— jacob rees—mogg was briefly business secretary and he was saying at a time _ secretary and he was saying at a time of— secretary and he was saying at a time of cost of living crisis, we shouldn't— time of cost of living crisis, we shouldn't be spending money like this. shouldn't be spending money like this the — shouldn't be spending money like this. the navy didn't want it either. _ this. the navy didn't want it either, and so the moment that boris johnson _ either, and so the moment that boris johnson was — either, and so the moment that boris johnson was no longer prime minister. _ johnson was no longer prime minister, this was certainly dead in the water —
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minister, this was certainly dead in the water. , ., ., ., ., the water. ok, you are on form toniuht, the water. ok, you are on form tonight. nigel. _ the water. ok, you are on form tonight, nigel, you _ the water. ok, you are on form tonight, nigel, you really - the water. ok, you are on form tonight, nigel, you really are! l the water. ok, you are on form l tonight, nigel, you really are! jo. yes, it was another ridiculous idea of borisjohnson's. it yes, it was another ridiculous idea of boris johnson's. it was yes, it was another ridiculous idea of borisjohnson's. it was a headline grabber. but it was never, ever an idea that was going to float, really, because it is an enormous amount of money and although the royal yacht britannia served a fantastic purpose over the years that it was in service, times have changed. as we saw. after the queen's death, we saw how everything had changed from those foreign trips and how that helped with british trade and investment and things, there is no place for something like this today and there is no place for vanity projects, you know, and i am afraid borisjohnson's time in office is full of vanity projects. very quickly before we go, talking
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about vanity projects and saving money and big figures, any thoughts on the upcoming fiscal statement, nigel? on the upcoming fiscal statement, niel? ., ~' on the upcoming fiscal statement, niel? ., 4' ., , nigel? no, i think the most important _ nigel? no, i think the most important thing _ nigel? no, i think the most important thing is - nigel? no, i think the most important thing is that - nigel? no, i think the most important thing is that the l nigel? no, i think the most- important thing is that the triple lock important thing is that the triple iock for— important thing is that the triple lock for pensioners is maintained. and the _ lock for pensioners is maintained. and the inflationary increase for benefit — and the inflationary increase for benefit claimants, which rishi sunak promised, _ benefit claimants, which rishi sunak promised, goes ahead. jo?| benefit claimants, which rishi sunak promised, goes ahead.— promised, goes ahead. jo? ithink there will be _ promised, goes ahead. jo? ithink there will be cuts, _ promised, goes ahead. jo? ithink there will be cuts, even _ promised, goes ahead. jo? ithink there will be cuts, even if- promised, goes ahead. jo? ithink there will be cuts, even if they - promised, goes ahead. jo? ithinkj there will be cuts, even if they are not called cuts. i think there are serious issues to be addressed, not least the wages, people working in the health service, the shortage of staff, partly caused by the low wages, and i think it has got to be a budget that is seen to be fair and not one that is just sorting and helping out rich people. {lilia not one that isjust sorting and helping out rich people. ok, thank ou for helping out rich people. ok, thank you for your— helping out rich people. ok, thank you for your time _ helping out rich people. ok, thank you for your time this _ helping out rich people. ok, thank you for your time this saturday - you for your time this saturday evening, enjoy the rest of your weekend, thank you. and thank you forjoining us for the
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