hello this is bbc news. the headlines: south korea is in a period of national mourning after more than 150 people were killed in a crush. sobbing. i turn around and i told the crowd, "you can't come this way, people are dying." the president of somalia says more than 100 people have been killed in two car bomb attacks on a government building. uk government minister michael gove says the home secretary suella braverman deserves a "second chance" — after allegations of a security breach. shadow home secretary, yvette cooper remains unconvinced. but now questions about whether she has given an accurate description of what happened. she said she reported it straightaway and there are other reports as well that's, no, she didn't and was confronted on this. the polls open to choose either former left—wing leader

luiz inacio lula da silva orfar right incumbentjair bolsonaro as the next president. now on bbc news tackling climate change. when i was 15, i wasjust discovering the joys of hip—hop and dreaming of playing cricket for england. at the same age, greta thunberg launched an international movement for skipping school. she is not a politician or a scientist, nor is she the first to campaign against climate change. at school, she was bullied for years before being diagnosed with asperger�*s syndrome. in 2018, this swedish schoolgirl found herself hailed as the unlikely voice of global youth. she has become the symbol of a generation which, as she puts it, is not being listened to by older people who won't suffer the consequences of not listening. whether you admire her or despair

of her, greta thunberg's influence has already been profound. and she is still a teenager. in 2015, the eu and nearly 200 countries signed the paris agreement, tending to limit the global temperature increase this century to 1.5 celsius. greta thunberg has pleaded, reasoned and raged in the face of world leaders to keep their promises. you all come to us young people for hope, how dare you! in doing so, she has become a modern icon to some and an alarmist pariah to others. she has graced magazine covers and is mobbed like a rock star, while politicians and celebrities align themselves with her to signify their green credentials and opponents regularly send her family death threats.

she has now created a group of essays written by her and more than 100 experts by way of a toolkit for those concerned about climate change. at 19, greta thunberg is no longer the young schoolgirl bursting onto the world stage. how does she plan to get her message across? and will anybody still listen? and, as an adult, what practical solutions can she offer to back up her demands for the planet? i want to understand how she got here but also explore her plans for the future. both hers and ours. thank you so much for talking to the bbc. i have read your book, i mean, this is a major contribution to debates, both about the science and the politics of global warming. it is notjust something that focuses on what the science is, it comes up with recommendations for how to go forward. what was your guiding principle

when you chose the authors, when you constricted who which contribute? i often get asked if i had recommendations for things to read? and things i can watch? because i don't know much about the climate crisis but i want to learn and get involved. and then i can send people a long list, it might could read this which talked about this, then they switch talks about this." and so on. but there was nothing which, in a broader perspective so i wanted to create that because it is very hard to navigate around everything there is on the climate crisis today. is one of the ideas behind the book, one the motivations, that you are moving beyond protests, which are still a big part of what you do, but moving into the world of practical policies? because that seems to be a part of what the book is about. i guess you can do different interpretations of that. i think the biggest project is educational material and to spread awareness. when i started school are striking, it wasn't...

of course it was also meant as a kind of protest, but also about spreading information, because i had flyers that i handed out to people with the fact that i had collected. but the processed idea of it was more resonating with people. i want to talk about how you got into this, because i think most people don't know very much about your childhood. a lot of people won't know that you have depression for many years, nearly three years, you didn't say very much and people thought you were mute so you missed a lot of school. severely depressed, do you know what prompted all of that? it was many different things, but i think i was just depressed about the state of the world in general. which, yeah, it felt just meaningless. a lot of people listening to you who maybe have had childhood mental health problems, depression, will be interested in what happened to help you recover.

i think the main thing was that ifound something that i was passionate about. because today, it feels like so many people lack a sense of purpose and meaning in their life. we are just all going around in this hamster wheel trying to make money, get likes on social media and whatever, which doesn't make you happy. but i and many others found purpose in this fight for climate justice, because i feel like i'm doing something which is meaningful. the book goes into a lot of detail about solutions and practical policies. i want to explore some of your views on some of these complex policy issues, where you do have to make choices and governments have to make choices. i pretty much never go into specific things, to talk about, because that distracts from the crisis itself. why do you not get into specific things? because, as you have, as he will get onto, you have said you are an opponent of nuclear policy...

no... have you not? i have said, well, i try to stay away from those things as much as possible. would they distract from the crisis? with your platform, isn't the point of politics that you have to encourage people to choose? that you have to take a position on these things? if you want to solve the climate crisis as a citizen or as a citizen who votes or as a government, you do need to make choices. we talked about nuclear power for example, that is something that which is being used a lot by people to distract, because it is something that people feel so strongly about. so when you talk about it, everyonejust runs a do it, and forgets everything around it. but isn't it part of the mix of a green agenda? first of all, i think when we talk about this, it seems like this is one silver

bullet that will solve everything. first of all, our energy —related emissions are not all of our emissions. secondly, if we were to build and replace all of our fossil fuel generated energy with nuclear power, we don't have the time to do that. because our c02 budget runs out in less than a decade of current emissions. carbon budgets and limited the amount of greenhouse gases a particular country can produce between now and 2050, which is the paris agreement�*s deadline set net to zero. the point at which no new greenhouse gases should be added to the atmosphere. this government, i can hear them now in interviews that i do with them saying "we have an ambitious plan fit net zero by 2050, there is a range of different stuff that we have got to to hit that plan and nuclear as part of it." on that part of it, is it not reasonable to say that activists should say whether they support it or not? people can do that if they want to, if i do it, people get stuck on that thing. 0h, "greta has supported it

or not supported it?" if i talk about nuclear power, people will focus on that. do you take a similar approach to other issues, not that the debate isn't settled, like shell gas and fracking? joe biden would say, "when i hear climate change, i'm thinking jobs, jobs, jobs." sorry! did i say something? jobs, jobs, jobs! it is just an internaljoke! did i say something? jobs, jobs, jobs, i wasjust a channelling joe biden. why is that funny? does that translate into something funny in swedish? you just don't believe it? what is the internaljoke? me and some friends, we just say that sometimes and it is really funny. jobs, jobs, jobs? 0k.

that is what the most powerful man in the world says when people start putting to him the case for shale gas and fracking. he says i have created jobs here, jobs, jobs, jobs there. it will reduce our reliance on oil in the middle east and russian gas. and as part of the mix of getting to net zero by 2050, there is renewables, nuclear and shale gas is part of the mix. do you respond to that by saying i will not respond to that because that is a distraction? doesn't that come to a point where you have to take a view? do you have a view, personally? i don't think shale gas and fracking is a transition solution. it locks us further into a fossil dependency. i think we need to move towards real renewable energy, and i think a green revolution foster to say we are less dependent on importing fossil fuels and other country by producing it yourself is not really a very thought through thing to do, i think. one thing you recommend in the book

is a free local transport. as i write, it is one of the low hanging fruits and the fact that that has not even been done says a lot about our emissions. how do you pay for it? i'm just thinking in this country, we have spent 400 million we have spent 400 billion on the pandemic. there is a cost of living crisis. that is exactly why i don't focus on specific issues. tell me, why? because then we get stuck on these issues instead of the crisis itself. but doesn't that leave you exposed to be argued that by talking only about the broad principle and are trying to change the public narrative, story on climate change, that you are not prepared to, as it were, get your hands dirty in the real practical policy solutions? first of all, i am a teenager. if your house was on fire, would you start arguing about whether to turn off the oven or not? yeah, you might talk about a range of different things.

the metaphor being shale gas... if you first haven't realised that your house is on fire, once we actually talked it as an emergency, we will talk about every possible detail. but until we are doing that, it is distracting to talk about these individual specific issues. i want to talk to you about the second paragraph of your introduction, which is not a test, you don't have to memorise it, i will read it to you. i think the second paragraph of your introduction crystallises one of the central argument of the book, because it attacks the idea of compromise, that you write, "there are no black and white issues in life, no categorical answer is, everything is a subject for endless debate and compromise. this is one of the core principles of our current society, a society which, when it comes to sustain ability, has a lot to answer for. because of that court principle is wrong —— or printable is wrong.

why is compromise wrong? it is not compromise itself which is wrong, it is very similar vocation to say everything black—and—white is not wrong. the paris agreement is a big compromise and that is what we are con to be referring back to. if we are to stay in line with the 1.5 degrees target, we don't have time for these small steps in the right direction, we don't have time to reach net zero 2050, which is a big compromise. when it comes to the climate emergency, winning slowly is the same as losing. we can't compromise with the laws of physics, and that is kind of the idea. either we go on as a civilisation, or we don't. build back better, blah blah blah, green economy, blah blah blah. net zero by 2050, blah blah blah. net zero, blah blah blah, climate neutral, blah blah blah. there are people who say looking at what you have done over the past four years, that one of the dangers of your approach to politics is that

you create a cynicism about politicians. i'm glad you're laughing, not the politicians are laughing. people say the thing about greta thunberg is people think that all politicians are rubbish, useless, blah blah blah. what do you say to that? atherogenic co2 emissions have been omitted since 2005 and that is the progress they said should not be dismissed as blah blah blah. of course all politicians are not evil, i have never said that and don't understand where that comes from. there are many who are trying, but overall, the people who are in power have been moving us in the wrong direction. would you ever go into politics? i don't want to! why? don't you feel an obligation, a duty? i mean, first of all, i don't want to! because it feels like that world is so toxic. but also the main reason is,

as it is now, the changes necessary will only come if there is enough public pressure from the outside. and that is something that we create outside on the streets. it feels to me that the focus of your campaigning has subtly but significantly changed from an earlier emphasis on listen to the science, which you obviously still say. but to something else which is climate justice. what is climate justice? the people who are affected today are the ones who have done the least to cause it, and therefore we have an obligation to act to minimise the damages which are being caused. climate justice is everything, because in countries like mine in sweden, i can imagine the uk as well, people say, "you don't have to worry, you will be fine. we can just turn off the air conditioning, turn on our sprinklers and we will be fine." and that might be true that some of us might initially be able

to adapt somewhat to a rapidly warming world, but for many of my friends, that will not be the case. let me put this into human terms, my dad died a few months ago, and he had a very big family, we have a very big family in india. he was one of 11 siblings, my mum needs to go and beat his siblings, and therefore fly to india. my mum is in her 70s, a wonderful person, not going to get the train to india! no! that would be weird. i don't think of her as privileged, but would it be right to say that, you know, people who follow you and follow your activism could infer from what you are saying that my mum shouldn't fly? i have never said that people should stop flying, i have never said that people... i think we need to move away from focusing on individual actions and what individuals do and so on, because we need to focus on the bigger picture.

of course, stop flying is a way of activism, to send a message to people around you that we need to do something about this. that is why i stopped flying. i didn't stop flying and i didn't sail across the atlantic twice to lower my carbon footprint. it was to create a debate. and it succeeded, i guess! it worked. people see me as an angry teenager who condemns every individual�*s behaviour, which is kind of funny to me! and you are not that person? no! what is the difference between that person and who you really are? there is a big difference, yeah. i am not an angry teenager. i probably don't take life seriously enough like in private. don't you find it weird and that you have this reputation? it is very funny, actually. you find it funny because it

is so untrue to you? yeah, and the people i care about who i meet, they know that that is not me. if i meet people personally, they can see that i'm not like that. do you ever reflect in quiet moments about how unlikely your story is? i mean, for three years, or more, this largely newt, or more, this largely mute, bullied at school girl, you end up being the voice of a generation. it is a very unlikely journey, isn't it? it is, yes. one thing you haven't described as your superpower is asperger�*s. would you mind spelling what that is to people who don't know, asperger�*s syndrome? you're on the autism spectrum, it is a diagnosis which means that you work a bit differently. you are a bit sensitive to sorts of things which others are not. you cannot sometimes function

in the same ways as others. describing it only as a superpower is misleading, because many people are a very limited by it. because under the wrong circumstances, it can definitely hold you back, if you have to play on the same terms as everybody else, as is the current situation for most people. but in some ways, it is something which allows you to do things which others can't. for example, if you are really interested in something and if you... you can have a very intense focus on something, you can be really determined to fulfil something. was there a moment those early weeks when you realised that this was going to be big? maybe you were texting your friends and saying, "something interesting in the global media, and in of this newspaper. did you think that you were starting to think there? i don't know, because in sweden, people rarely stop you in the streets. what's the word for that, again? jantelagen.

it means no one is worth more than others, we leave you alone. but when i started to go abroad, people started to recognise me. that was strange. do you like that attention at all? i mean, i don't enjoy it, no. it is not something that pleases me, so to speak. the thing which is most difficult is it people close to me or people i love, if they get harmed by it, which of course is the case sometimes. for example, if people come to my house uninvited and stuff... because you have had death threats? yeah, and my family and people i know and so on. i put your name into various social media platforms, and it is shocking. shocking the abuse you get. if you are honest, does it affect you? not insults, no. what i am most bothered about it when people lie about me and spread conspiracy theories. because i cannot lie,

so when people lie about me, it is, like, no, don't! you have used humour a lot on social media when you are told by world leaders. and you respond by trolling them back usually by changing your twitter profile. ijust think it is genuinely funny! i mean, the most powerful people in the world feel intimidated by teenagers. that is funny. it says more about them than it does about me. do you actually enjoy being the face of a rebel movement? it sounds like it comes? it was certainly not what i intended to do. you took a boat on a two—week

journey across the atlantic, just because you didn't want to fly to the un, i need to be there and i would do it by boat. there was a moment i saw in this documentary where you are recording voice memos and said, "i don't want to have to do this, it is such a responsibility around the clock. i know what is at stake and it is such a responsibility." it sounded like you are taking the whole weight of a generation on your shoulders and taking it across the atlantic on a solar powered boat. and you were what? 16 at the time? yes, it is too much, both for me as an individual but also for young people in general. there are people of all ages who are stepping up, but it mostly falls on young people to do this, and it should not be that way. i just wish sometimes that people would take up a bit more responsibility, because people always say to me that, "it is so hopeful when i see you guys and it gives me hope for the future." often i keep a straight face. but then sometimes i can snap and say, "if you think that

all the hope in the world rests on burned—out teenagers' shoulders, that is not very good." that is not very good. do you think you have been transformed by fame? i don't think it is possible for anyone to become, have so much attention and not be transformed. it does not have to be for the worst, though. it can also be that you think more about what you do. but i do think that if you are not careful and if you get famous at such a young age, it can be very damaging. and also when all of that attention disappears, that will probably be very difficult. do you think it will disappear? of course. why? because you are not young any more? maybe. no person can be in the spotlight for that long without people getting bored. you worry about that? no, i think that would be nice. you think it would be nice if people...

if you didn't have the attention that you have at the moment? i think so, yeah. would it not diminish your ability to influence the agenda? that is the dilemma. so how would you pay that dilemma? ijust have to accept what happens, as long as i have a platform and can do these things, i will try to use that platform. but when it disappears, i will, yes, i will continue in different ways. if you are not someone that really pursues fame and enjoys fame for fame�*s sake, what does it feel like to be nominated for the nobel peace prize repeatedly or to be on time magazine person of the year? of course, it is good that the climate gets focus, and as it is now, focusing on me means climate focus, even though it should not be that way, but i mean i don't really care for those things. what you do for fun? what are good at?

that is a good question! it wasn't meant to be a funny question! what do you do for fun? i like reading, i like being with my dogs, i like being with friends. one thing i do is i crochet frog hats. you crochet frog hats? are these hats for frogs? no, it is a green bucket hat which i crochet with eyes. 0k. just for you and your mates? just for fun? i want to come set to in very final thoughts. i have some quickfire questions. maximum ten words, minimum one. what distresses you? going for long walks. person you would most like to meet who is dead? i wouldn't want to meet a dead person! i never thought of it like that!

i meant if they came back alive. when did you last cry? probably because i saw some pretty flowers or something. what is your worst personal habit? that i cannot shut up. probably. ok, let's turn to final thoughts, given the concern that you expressed about the environment, what are your hopes and dreams for the future and how do you want your life to pan out like? i have absolutely no idea. ijust know there's no point in thinking about it, because everything changes every single day, so i cannot plan anything ahead. so i want to be able to do as much as i can where it is possible. greta, it is a real pleasure to chat to you. thank you so much for your time. thank you.

good afternoon. it has been barmy mild for the time of year. the last few days. yesterday we broke the 29th of october record, reaching nearly 23 degrees in the capital. as we head through the new upcoming week it will remain unsettled, often windy with heavy rain at times and it will turn less mild as well. temperatures turning closer to the seasonal norm. quite a bit of rain around for part two of the weekend across the south—east. that should clear away, lots of showers among long spells of rain rattling into

northern ireland and they will push eastwards. we could see a few showers getting into the east and south—east but an improvement across the south and east after the cloudy, damp morning. blustery day for most, particularly around irish sea coast and western scotland. temperatures not as high in the afternoon, around 16, 17 degrees will be the top temperature. through this evening and overnight, showers continue and it turns dry for a time. showers will return into wales, south—west england and perhaps into north—west england and perhaps into north—west england and perhaps into north—west england and south scotland. still mild, not quite as mild as it has been. we start the new week off with dry weather towards the east of the country, low pressure working its way in slowly towards western areas and because the rain will be slow moving and quite persistent and heavy for northern ireland and western scotland, there is a weather warning in force for northern ireland, yellow one for persistent rain which could lead to localised flooding. not a bad day for monday for the rest of the country. good

spells of sunshine, 18 degrees, so very mild. a monday night for halloween, it could be wet across southern areas but it is the early hours of tuesday where this low pressure peps are bringing wet weather to the much of the country and the wind is picking up through the channel reaching gale force during the early hours and into the morning. temperatures, double figures for most, probably eight or nine in the north. bit fresher there. that is tuesday morning and as he had to tuesday day, it stays windy, wet as this area of low pressure crushes the country. high pressure crushes the country. high pressure on wednesday will settle things down before the next low pressure system moves in for thursday. it is a roller—coaster ride for the upcoming week, very autumnal, very changeable with spells of wet weather followed by sunshine and blustery showers. the temperature slipping away gradually as we move through the week, a bit closer to what we should be looking for the time of year. see you later.

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