hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are nigel nelson, the political editor of the sunday mirror and sunday people, and benedicte paviot the uk correspondent of the french news channel, france 24. thanks forjoining us. first, tomorrow's front pages. the sunday telegraph splashes on a report thatjeremy hunt is considering the slashing of pensions relief for higher—rate taxpayers, netting the treasury up to £10 billion per year. it also says scrapping the so—called triple lock still under discussion in downing street.

the independent lead story is that the home office is targeting places of worship to advise migrants with insecure statuses to return to their countries of origin. the sunday times leads on a global gang who are hacking vip emails, including critics of the qatar world cup. the sunday express leads on the prime minister's announcement that the uk will enjoy an additional bank holiday — on may 8th next year — to celebrate the coronation of king charles iii. we have the sunday people which leads on matt hancock going on the i'm a celebrity. he made the decision to take part because reportedly he knew his government career is over. so let's begin... what about the details of what they are saying in the sunday telegraph? this isjeremy hunt and his huge

budget statement which is coming up on the 17th of november. he needs to feel a £50 billion black hole and what the sunday telegraph is saying is that he will do a raid on pension pots to do it. so what this could mean, according to the paper, is that tax relief on pensions could actually drop from the 40p rate at the moment, down to 20p, and this is one of those areas that george osborne had a look at and decided 0sborne had a look at and decided against it because tory mps would rebel and obviously this is something that will hit middle income earners, earning over 50,000, 270 a year, and as far as the telegraph is concerned, they are splashing the story... inaudible sor , splashing the story... inaudible sorry. you _ splashing the story... inaudible sorry. youiust— splashing the story... inaudible sorry, you just froze _ splashing the story... inaudible sorry, you just froze for - splashing the story... inaudible sorry, you just froze for a - splashing the story... inaudible l sorry, you just froze for a moment,

nigel. is it a sign of desperation that they will risk the raft of some conservatives with a policy like this if it does come to pass? —— wrath. this if it does come to pass? -- wrath. . , ., , ., wrath. the clue is in what you say it, if it comes _ wrath. the clue is in what you say it, if it comes to _ wrath. the clue is in what you say it, if it comes to pass, _ wrath. the clue is in what you say it, if it comes to pass, because i wrath. the clue is in what you say it, if it comes to pass, because it| it, if it comes to pass, because it was initially— it, if it comes to pass, because it was initially at the end of november, then it was the 31st of october. — november, then it was the 31st of october, so the date of the autumn statement — october, so the date of the autumn statement has changed drastically and now_ statement has changed drastically and now it is a full fiscal statement and because of the debacle of the _ statement and because of the debacle of the so—called mini budget of the 23rd of— of the so—called mini budget of the 23rd of september, this is becoming a much _ 23rd of september, this is becoming a much bigger deal, so to speak, with no_ a much bigger deal, so to speak, with no pun — a much bigger deal, so to speak, with no pun intended. what have we had? _ with no pun intended. what have we had? nuclearfunding up, possibly not happening, dividend tax, fiscal drag, _ not happening, dividend tax, fiscal drag, we _ not happening, dividend tax, fiscal drag, we have had so many things being _ drag, we have had so many things being floated, and you wonder if they are — being floated, and you wonder if they are watching to see what the reaction _ they are watching to see what the reaction is — they are watching to see what the reaction is on social media and in the tory— reaction is on social media and in the tory party itself and across the

nation _ the tory party itself and across the nation. obviously, times are very hard _ nation. obviously, times are very hard but— nation. obviously, times are very hard but to _ nation. obviously, times are very hard. but to get people to spend effectively less on their pensions, is that— effectively less on their pensions, is that a _ effectively less on their pensions, is that a good idea? i'm not sure that it _ is that a good idea? i'm not sure that it is — is that a good idea? i'm not sure that it is i— is that a good idea? i'm not sure that it is. i don't know. there's so much _ that it is. i don't know. there's so much speculation. what i do know is that tomorrow morning on sunday morning. — that tomorrow morning on sunday morning, ministers have got to put in the _ morning, ministers have got to put in the sheets with the cuts they are proposing _ in the sheets with the cuts they are proposing or accepting, possibly reluctantly, and we know that jeremy hunt and _ reluctantly, and we know that jeremy hunt and rishi sunak have been meeting — hunt and rishi sunak have been meeting regularly including last night _ meeting regularly including last night to— meeting regularly including last night to really try and thrash this out. night to really try and thrash this out so— night to really try and thrash this out. so much depends on it. the pound, _ out. so much depends on it. the pound, the — out. so much depends on it. the pound, the economy, so reducing that £50 hittion _ pound, the economy, so reducing that £50 billion hole as nigel said, will be absolutely crucial, but by how much _ be absolutely crucial, but by how much and — be absolutely crucial, but by how much and how drastically, and how quickly— much and how drastically, and how quickly is _ much and how drastically, and how quickly is the question. we much and how drastically, and how quickly is the question.— quickly is the question. we still have a few _ quickly is the question. we still have a few weeks _ quickly is the question. we still have a few weeks to _ quickly is the question. we still have a few weeks to wait - quickly is the question. we still have a few weeks to wait until. quickly is the question. we still l have a few weeks to wait until we know the answers. nigel, another

story here on the front of the telegraph, revived a bill of rights to halt migrants. the telegraph, revived a bill of rights to halt migrants.— telegraph, revived a bill of rights to halt migrants. the government is clutchin: at to halt migrants. the government is clutching at straws _ to halt migrants. the government is clutching at straws on _ to halt migrants. the government is clutching at straws on this _ to halt migrants. the government is clutching at straws on this one, - to halt migrants. the government is clutching at straws on this one, i - clutching at straws on this one, i think. anything really to see if they can actually solve the migrant crisis. the idea here is to bring back the bill of rights and broadly that would give our supreme court supremacy over the european court of human rights. not a good idea, i would say. but one of the reasons for doing this is it would get the idea of taking asylum seekers to rwanda to be processed off the ground and at the moment, it is the european court which says no, we should not do it, and no flights have taken off and we have spent £120 million trying to get 200 asylum seekers over the so obviously in the event that we could get the

bill of rights back, you could then start the programme again. but it feels very much as if the government is trying to do something, anything, to assuage public anger over what is happening at the moment. the problem is that as the — happening at the moment. the problem is that as the article _ happening at the moment. the problem is that as the article says, _ happening at the moment. the problem is that as the article says, liz _ is that as the article says, liz truss scrapped this in september because it was so completely complex and a complete mess it says here, in quotes. and a complete mess it says here, in uuotes. , and a complete mess it says here, in motes, , ., , and a complete mess it says here, in uuotes. , ., , ., ~ quotes. yes, so has any work improved _ quotes. yes, so has any work improved that _ quotes. yes, so has any work improved that and _ quotes. yes, so has any work improved that and it - quotes. yes, so has any work improved that and it is - quotes. yes, so has any work improved that and it is no - quotes. yes, so has any work i improved that and it is no longer quotes. yes, so has any work - improved that and it is no longer a mess? _ improved that and it is no longer a mess? that — improved that and it is no longer a mess? that is the question. the written — mess? that is the question. the written press are concentrating on this _ written press are concentrating on this the — written press are concentrating on this. the whole migrant policy is a complete — this. the whole migrant policy is a complete mess. there is no proper conference — complete mess. there is no proper conference of policy and i would say that sorting that out and also sorting — that sorting that out and also sorting out what is happening in the nhs, _ sorting out what is happening in the nhs, with— sorting out what is happening in the nhs, with unacceptable dangerous death—

nhs, with unacceptable dangerous death inducing delays of ambulances, these _ death inducing delays of ambulances, these are _ death inducing delays of ambulances, these are two of the most crucial issues _ these are two of the most crucial issues that— these are two of the most crucial issues that need to be sorted out. when _ issues that need to be sorted out. when you — issues that need to be sorted out. when you hear that caseworkers deal with a _ when you hear that caseworkers deal with a case _ when you hear that caseworkers deal with a case and a half per week, the slowness— with a case and a half per week, the slowness of— with a case and a half per week, the slowness of dealing with 40,000 migrants — slowness of dealing with 40,000 migrants processing is clearly an absolute — migrants processing is clearly an absolute problem. where to house these _ absolute problem. where to house these people, where to put them, and it has— these people, where to put them, and it has treen— these people, where to put them, and it has been escalating in the last few days, — it has been escalating in the last few days, incidents in different detention centres, and so it is clear— detention centres, and so it is clear that _ detention centres, and so it is clear that is one of the biggest challenges for the rishi sunak government and we will come onto the sunday— government and we will come onto the sunday express which asks rishi sunak— sunday express which asks rishi sunak to — sunday express which asks rishi sunak to support his own home secretary— sunak to support his own home secretary who of course is beleaguered and embattled at the moment— beleaguered and embattled at the moment and not very willing to talk to the _ moment and not very willing to talk to the media when she visits these detention— to the media when she visits these detention centres. we to the media when she visits these detention centres.— detention centres. we are going to look at the —

detention centres. we are going to look at the express _ detention centres. we are going to look at the express although - detention centres. we are going to look at the express although i - detention centres. we are going to| look at the express although i don't think we had that section highlighted, but it says migrant crackdown, a shake—up of the asylum system could see those making bogus claims deported more quickly. it is a big issue for the government and the problem is they have had 12 years as labour can accuse them of saying, to sort this out, they don't seem to have any answers yet. that is the real problem. _ seem to have any answers yet. trust is the real problem. they really haven't got a grip on it. it seems to me that one of the major problems we have got is that asylum seekers how to apply for asylum in this country and if we change this so they are able to apply abroad, for instance, in refugee camps equipped for the purpose with the united nations commission on human rights, on refugees, looking after it, you might make it a bit simpler. and the home office is also too unwieldy and

it looks after too many things, national security, police, safeguarding. but if you are hived immigration off you would then have a government department dedicated to the problem and might be able to solve it. �* , ., ., the problem and might be able to solve it. �*, ., ., �*, ., ,, solve it. let's move on. let's talk about another _ solve it. let's move on. let's talk about another story _ solve it. let's move on. let's talk about another story on _ solve it. let's move on. let's talk about another story on the - solve it. let's move on. let's talk about another story on the front i solve it. let's move on. let's talk| about another story on the front of the sunday express, apparently we're all going to a bank holiday to celebrate the coronation of king charles, something the prime minister is supporting at least. it minister is supporting at least. it is interesting because the express caited _ is interesting because the express called him — is interesting because the express called him royalist rishi and i think— called him royalist rishi and i think it — called him royalist rishi and i think it is _ called him royalist rishi and i think it is common sense that if there _ think it is common sense that if there is— think it is common sense that if there is a — think it is common sense that if there is a big coronation of a new head _ there is a big coronation of a new head of— there is a big coronation of a new head of state, the king, king charies— head of state, the king, king charles on the 6th of may, and if we want to— charles on the 6th of may, and if we want to have up and down the country celebrations, notjust national but also in _ celebrations, notjust national but also in villages and towns across the land. — also in villages and towns across the land, those who wish to mark what _ the land, those who wish to mark what is _ the land, those who wish to mark what is indeed as downing street

underlines an historic occasion, i think— underlines an historic occasion, i think we — underlines an historic occasion, i think we att— underlines an historic occasion, i think we all know it will be a historic— think we all know it will be a historic occasion, then if lots of merriment _ historic occasion, then if lots of merriment happens over the weekend, it is only— merriment happens over the weekend, it is only fair— merriment happens over the weekend, it is only fair and understandable that on— it is only fair and understandable that on the monday there might be a few sore _ that on the monday there might be a few sore heads, and compared to france _ few sore heads, and compared to france and — few sore heads, and compared to france and other european countries, there _ france and other european countries, there are _ france and other european countries, there are very few bank holidays in there are very few bank holidays in the uk _ there are very few bank holidays in the uk which many of my foreign colleagues remind me of, but there will have _ colleagues remind me of, but there will have been a may day bank holiday— will have been a may day bank holiday the week before and we will have the _ holiday the week before and we will have the three day weekend as the 8th of— have the three day weekend as the 8th of may in 2023 will indeed be a bank holiday, which is welcome news. it is, bank holiday, which is welcome news. it is, for— bank holiday, which is welcome news. it is, for most — bank holiday, which is welcome news. it is, for most people. although we won't be getting an extra day off, though, unfortunately. wonderfulfor though, unfortunately. wonderful for the though, unfortunately. wonderfulfor the rest of the country. the sunday times, this is quite something, the story about gavin williamson. itruihat

story about gavin williamson. what this is, the paper _ story about gavin williamson. what this is, the paper is _ story about gavin williamson. twist this is, the paper is revealing story about gavin williamson. his“isgt this is, the paper is revealing that gavin williamson sent some text messages to wendy morton the then chief whip. he messages to wendy morton the then chief whi. messages to wendy morton the then chief whi -. ., , .., ., chief whip. he was the education secretary during _ chief whip. he was the education secretary during covid _ chief whip. he was the education secretary during covid and - chief whip. he was the education secretary during covid and camel chief whip. he was the education | secretary during covid and came in for a lot of criticism and was moved on. r ., , ., ,., for a lot of criticism and was moved on. _ for a lot of criticism and was moved on. r _ on. and he was also fired by theresa ma for a on. and he was also fired by theresa may for a security — on. and he was also fired by theresa may for a security breach _ on. and he was also fired by theresa may for a security breach when - on. and he was also fired by theresa may for a security breach when he i may for a security breach when he was a cabinet minister. but on this occasion he was accusing wendy morton of stopping him going to the funeral of the queen and wendy morton says that was not true at all. but what is most interesting about this is now that the sunday times has got hold of this the next question for number ten is, does the prime minister still have confidence in gavin williamson? number ten have not replied to that question which is normally a straightforward yes. even when people are in trouble! what _ even when people are in trouble! what do — even when people are in trouble! what do you make of this? how

damaging is it for gavin williamson, the details we have?— damaging is it for gavin williamson, the details we have? from memory the article sa s the details we have? from memory the article says he — the details we have? from memory the article says he belatedly _ the details we have? from memory the article says he belatedly has _ article says he belatedly has apologised but of course that is once _ apologised but of course that is once it — apologised but of course that is once it has become public, it is a breaking — once it has become public, it is a breaking news story that we are referring — breaking news story that we are referring to here. there is also colourful— referring to here. there is also colourful language which discreetly ni-el colourful language which discreetly nigel has not mentioned. what is interesting is that wendy morton actually— interesting is that wendy morton actually made a formal complaint and that jake _ actually made a formal complaint and that jake berry who was the chair of the party— that jake berry who was the chair of the party at — that jake berry who was the chair of the party at the time acknowledged, so it's— the party at the time acknowledged, so it's not— the party at the time acknowledged, so it's not as if it was not known, so it's not as if it was not known, so i _ so it's not as if it was not known, so i think— so it's not as if it was not known, so i think this _ so it's not as if it was not known, so i think this is yet again another embarrassing problem and a decision would _ embarrassing problem and a decision would have _ embarrassing problem and a decision would have to be made very quickly and i_ would have to be made very quickly and i would — would have to be made very quickly and i would say that gavin williamson should clearly be somewhat worried that downing street are not— somewhat worried that downing street are not publicly backing him. it are not publicly backing him. [it does are not publicly backing him. does say are not publicly backing him. it does say he does not dispute the veracity of the text and he offers an apology, regretting the language. back to the telegraph and their

story that you mentioned and this is about ambulances arriving more than two days late. we have got used to these shocking statistics but this really beats everything, two and a half days, and an extraordinary number of extra deaths or happening since covid. this number of extra deaths or happening since covid. , .,. ., , number of extra deaths or happening since covid. , ., , ., , since covid. this actually involves atients since covid. this actually involves patients who _ since covid. this actually involves patients who have _ since covid. this actually involves patients who have had _ since covid. this actually involves patients who have had heart - since covid. this actually involves i patients who have had heart attacks or strokes, and the paper got it to a freedom of information request but we have been hearing about delays of eight, 12 hours, but the idea of a delay of two and a half days is extraordinary. the record according to the paper is 59 and a half hours. i would have thought that after you have been waiting a day for an ambulance you would have tried some other way of getting to hospital. but itjust other way of getting to hospital. but it just shows other way of getting to hospital. but itjust shows the nhs really is in need of root and branch reform

and a properfunding. these things cannot help. stand and a proper funding. these things cannot help-— and a proper funding. these things cannot help. and they are going on and there does _ cannot help. and they are going on and there does not _ cannot help. and they are going on and there does not seem _ cannot help. and they are going on and there does not seem to - cannot help. and they are going on and there does not seem to be - cannot help. and they are going on and there does not seem to be anyj and there does not seem to be any quick answers because you cannot create ambulances out of thin air and you can't create paramedics to drive them and to look after people. it takes time for that to happen. indeed. we are haemorrhaging nurses and it— indeed. we are haemorrhaging nurses and it was— indeed. we are haemorrhaging nurses and it was all very well saying we are going — and it was all very well saying we are going to increase post but it is 160.000 — are going to increase post but it is 160,000 vacancies and for having been _ 160,000 vacancies and for having been in _ 160,000 vacancies and for having been in the last few years at hospital— been in the last few years at hospital for a lot of different reasons _ hospital for a lot of different reasons for a very close number of relatives. — reasons for a very close number of relatives, every time i come to the same _ relatives, every time i come to the same conclusion, the staff and the individuals— same conclusion, the staff and the individuals are extraordinary, yes, it a vocation, _ individuals are extraordinary, yes, it a vocation, but it is extraordinary, the pressure, and i can't _ extraordinary, the pressure, and i can't absorb — extraordinary, the pressure, and i can't absorb the numbers, so the individuals— can't absorb the numbers, so the individuals are doing everything they can —— they can't absorb the numbers — they can —— they can't absorb the numbers. but they are not properly supported — numbers. but they are not properly supported and this is why we are

seeing _ supported and this is why we are seeing this, two and a half days? i can't _ seeing this, two and a half days? i can't completely understand it because — can't completely understand it because we clearly have 50,000 extra deaths. _ because we clearly have 50,000 extra deaths, says the telegraph, that have _ deaths, says the telegraph, that have happened, and to wait 24 hours when _ have happened, and to wait 24 hours when you _ have happened, and to wait 24 hours when you have had a stroke, your loved _ when you have had a stroke, your loved one — when you have had a stroke, your loved one has had a stroke or a heart _ loved one has had a stroke or a heart attack, this is very, very scary — heart attack, this is very, very scary is — heart attack, this is very, very scary~ is it— heart attack, this is very, very scary. is it now, don't have a heart attack, _ scary. is it now, don't have a heart attack, don't— scary. is it now, don't have a heart attack, don't have a stroke? the thought— attack, don't have a stroke? the thought of. _ attack, don't have a stroke? the thought of, and i've been on the receiving — thought of, and i've been on the receiving end of being told, just take the — receiving end of being told, just take the relative in a taxi, most of the time _ take the relative in a taxi, most of the time it— take the relative in a taxi, most of the time it is— take the relative in a taxi, most of the time it is not possible to move them _ the time it is not possible to move them and — the time it is not possible to move them and if— the time it is not possible to move them and if we are calling 999 there's— them and if we are calling 999 there's a — them and if we are calling 999 there's a reason. and them and if we are calling 999 there's a reason.— them and if we are calling 999 there's a reason. and that is the reason, exactly. _ there's a reason. and that is the reason, exactly. sadly _ there's a reason. and that is the reason, exactly. sadly too - there's a reason. and that is the reason, exactly. sadly too manyj reason, exactly. sadly too many people have been in this position and will continue to be for some time. that is it from both of you for the moment. that's it for the papers this hour. benedicte and nigel will be back again at 11:30. goodbye for now.