absolutely. but rishi sunak seems to be saying _ absolutely. but rishi sunak seems to be saying is that i think the government recognises there is a case _ government recognises there is a case for— government recognises there is a case for those developing countries who have _ case for those developing countries who have not created the kind of damage — who have not created the kind of damage to the climate that the already— damage to the climate that the already developed nations have done over the _ already developed nations have done over the past few decades. albeit, in most _ over the past few decades. albeit, in most cases inadvertently, where we had _ in most cases inadvertently, where we had the — in most cases inadvertently, where we had the industrial revolution and when the _ we had the industrial revolution and when the greenhouse gases and emissions were driving growth here we didht— emissions were driving growth here we didn't realise we're actually damaging the planet. now that it is quite wett— damaging the planet. now that it is quite well known and understood i think— quite well known and understood i think but— quite well known and understood i think but the developing nations are saying is, _ think but the developing nations are saying is, you had your growth and you cause — saying is, you had your growth and you cause this problem. you need to contribute _ you cause this problem. you need to contribute to — you cause this problem. you need to contribute to helping to clear it up rather _ contribute to helping to clear it up rather than — contribute to helping to clear it up rather thanjust contribute to helping to clear it up rather than just demanding that we ourselves— rather than just demanding that we ourselves cut our emissions, which will sturrt— ourselves cut our emissions, which will stunt our growth. 0r

ourselves cut our emissions, which will stunt our growth. or for those countries — will stunt our growth. or for those countries that are being damaged by climate _ countries that are being damaged by climate change there are reparations, the current president under— reparations, the current president under the — reparations, the current president under the british year leading the cop had — under the british year leading the cop had already said that he betieves— cop had already said that he believes there is a case to be made. we do _ believes there is a case to be made. we do need — believes there is a case to be made. we do need to look at this seriously, i think. we do need to look at this seriously, ithink. we we do need to look at this seriously, ithink. seriously, i think. we know that rishi sunak _ seriously, i think. we know that rishi sunak originally _ seriously, i think. we know that rishi sunak originally wasn't - seriously, i think. we know that i rishi sunak originally wasn't going to go and then he made a u—turn, said he was going. now it seems he's on the front page of the uk papers but he wants to be leading the charge. he's also saying that the uk will pledge £65.5 million for green techin will pledge £65.5 million for green tech in poorer nations.— will pledge £655 million for green tech in poorer nations. which sounds like a ridiculously _ tech in poorer nations. which sounds like a ridiculously small— tech in poorer nations. which sounds like a ridiculously small amount - tech in poorer nations. which sounds like a ridiculously small amount of i like a ridiculously small amount of money. things are pretty tight here in the united kingdom. we don't have a huge amount to come onto animator. rishi sunak, his rationale for not

going to cop was that he had to work on the financial statement that is coming up put up i think he was persuaded by the opinions some of his mps and some cabinet perhaps he should make an appearance. it's important as well, this will be his first chance to meet with world leaders in person so he will have a meeting with president emmanuel macron tomorrow morning, they will discuss issues. to say he wasn't going is was a mistake and going was not a mistake. i think that is good. it will be an important opportunity to him to meet world leaders with up under estimate the fact that personal contact and friendships and conversations are really important in international diplomacy. lats conversations are really important in international diplomacy.- in international diplomacy. lots of numbers in _ in international diplomacy. lots of numbers in the _ in international diplomacy. lots of numbers in the papers. _ in international diplomacy. lots of numbers in the papers. the - in international diplomacy. lots of. numbers in the papers. the telegraph talks about the fact that the cost is estimated to reach $1 trillion by 2050. that's the cost of climate change. the the talks about the us

to pay their fair share change. the the talks about the us to pay theirfair share of change. the the talks about the us to pay their fair share of $100 billion climate fund. as is separate to the reparations we've been talking about, isn't it?- to the reparations we've been talking about, isn't it? these are hue talking about, isn't it? these are huge sums _ talking about, isn't it? these are huge sums of— talking about, isn't it? these are huge sums of money. _ talking about, isn't it? these are huge sums of money. i - talking about, isn't it? these are huge sums of money. i think- talking about, isn't it? these are l huge sums of money. i think what needs— huge sums of money. i think what needs to — huge sums of money. i think what needs to remember that if we don't spend _ needs to remember that if we don't spend this — needs to remember that if we don't spend this money and we don't atteviate — spend this money and we don't alleviate the pressure on the planet and the _ alleviate the pressure on the planet and the damage that is already being caused _ and the damage that is already being caused to— and the damage that is already being caused to our precious planet and then the — caused to our precious planet and then the cost in the long run to all of us _ then the cost in the long run to all of us witt— then the cost in the long run to all of us will be — then the cost in the long run to all of us will be much higher then we might— of us will be much higher then we might be paying now to try to mitigate _ might be paying now to try to mitigate those impacts. our whole way of— mitigate those impacts. our whole way of life — mitigate those impacts. our whole way of life could be impacted if we fail to— way of life could be impacted if we fail to take account of what is going — fail to take account of what is going on— fail to take account of what is going on in terms of climate change, both in— going on in terms of climate change, both in our— going on in terms of climate change, both in our country and globally. all of— both in our country and globally. all of that — both in our country and globally. all of that will have huge implications for future growth, industries who will be unable to survive. — industries who will be unable to

survive, countries who will potentially have to move their populations far away. there are lots of ways _ populations far away. there are lots of ways in _ populations far away. there are lots of ways in which it sounds a lot of money today but that short—sighted thinking _ money today but that short—sighted thinking has led us to some of the problems— thinking has led us to some of the problems that we've got and we have to take _ problems that we've got and we have to take responsibility for investing now to _ to take responsibility for investing now to have the chance at a much better— now to have the chance at a much better future and avert much higher cost tater— better future and avert much higher cost later on. better future and avert much higher cost tater om— cost later on. does it feel to you as a political— cost later on. does it feel to you as a political watcher _ cost later on. does it feel to you as a political watcher that - cost later on. does it feel to you i as a political watcher that anything has changed in the past year since cop 26? there was so much hype around that, so much attention, so much pressure, expectation, do you feel that things have shifted at all? i feel that things have shifted at all? ~ . feel that things have shifted at all? ~' , ., feel that things have shifted at all? ~ , ., ~ , all? i think the ends out west minister have _ all? i think the ends out west minister have been _ all? i think the ends out west minister have been a - all? i think the ends out west minister have been a bit - all? i think the ends out west j minister have been a bit more obsessed with the fact that we've been cycling through prime ministers and intense political instability. borisjohnson made a very nice noises in cop 26 last year about the whole agenda has been swept up with

the melodrama that's been happening at west minister. it is difficult to discern whether these policies have advanced since they were proposed in the uk's position appears to be probably the same as it was last year except this time rishi sunak is going rather than not going. i think thatis going rather than not going. i think that is a fair assessment. i going rather than not going. i think that is a fair assessment.— that is a fair assessment. i think that's a little _ that is a fair assessment. i think that's a little harsh, _ that is a fair assessment. i think that's a little harsh, tony. - that is a fair assessment. i think that's a little harsh, tony. we i that's a little harsh, tony. we passed — that's a little harsh, tony. we passed a _ that's a little harsh, tony. we passed a landmark environment act. we've _ passed a landmark environment act. we've brought in much stricter rules that many— we've brought in much stricter rules that many other countries. a lot has happened _ that many other countries. a lot has happened over the last year since we've _ happened over the last year since we've had — happened over the last year since we've had the presidency at cop. we have to _ we've had the presidency at cop. we have to keep up the progress but so far there has been real commitment. maybe _ far there has been real commitment. maybe it's— far there has been real commitment. maybe it'sjust not getting the maybe it's just not getting the attention it deserves because it's been so much political change and shift in the corridors of power. the guardian, this is about the cuts syntax rises, six billion pounds in

tax rises. take us to the little detail that we have here, tony. it’s detailthat we have here, tony. it's all detail that we have here, tony. it�*s all speculation. only the real figures when the chancellor stayed up figures when the chancellor stayed up on the 17th of november. it's a marked contrast between liz truss and kwasi kwarteng. some of the most radical changes to the economy without producing any supporting documents and then went into recess. never to the bank of england never mind the cabinet to what they were doing for the up there trying to prepare the markets in the public and everyone else fought the tax rises and cuts that are coming down the track in less than two weeks. the press plays a role in this in the sense that some of this will be stuff they are trying to run up the flagpole and see the reaction that peoples had to the suggestions. what is clear is that are going to be significant cut to the public

services. the question is where you cut public services? a lot of public services are already quite frankly in crisis. the other issue is, are you can raise taxes? one think the rishi sunakjeremy hunt approach to this that is very different from liz truss and kwasi kwarteng is that they are saying it will be the richest that will show the two shoulder the heaviest burden. that's a direct contrast to the quite frankly catastrophic many budget we had what seems like a few years ago. just days in the scale of things. one important issue in one i'm sure you be keeping a close eye on is pensions and benefits, which according to this article treasury sources say the decision has yet been made. what are you hoping for? i must admit, i cannot believe that this matter— i must admit, i cannot believe that this matter is still up in the air and people are being left dangling,

wondering whether they will be actually — wondering whether they will be actually protected against inflation in the _ actually protected against inflation in the middle of a cost—of—living crisis~ _ in the middle of a cost—of—living crisis. these are some of the poorest— crisis. these are some of the poorest people in our country. the last three — poorest people in our country. the last three prime ministers have each bromised _ last three prime ministers have each promised that state pensions will go up promised that state pensions will go ”p by— promised that state pensions will go up by inflation next year. and here were _ up by inflation next year. and here were a _ up by inflation next year. and here were a few— up by inflation next year. and here we're a few days away from a major announcement where they don't even know yet— announcement where they don't even know yet whether that will actually happen _ know yet whether that will actually happen. other benefits too, we're debating _ happen. other benefits too, we're debating whether this country is going _ debating whether this country is going to — debating whether this country is going to increase basic benefits in line going to increase basic benefits in tine with — going to increase basic benefits in line with inflation for some of the poorest— line with inflation for some of the poorest people in the land. i find that realty— poorest people in the land. i find that really truly staggering. of course — that really truly staggering. of course this budget will also be looking — course this budget will also be looking at the long—term. if you want _ looking at the long—term. if you want to— looking at the long—term. if you want to review how you should protect — want to review how you should protect benefits and pensions in the tong-term _ protect benefits and pensions in the long—term debt of course one can have _ long—term debt of course one can have a _ long—term debt of course one can have a review, make some suggestions

but what _ have a review, make some suggestions but what is _ have a review, make some suggestions but what is really important is that we make _ but what is really important is that we make sure that she had the inflation — we make sure that she had the inflation protection that was taken away tast— inflation protection that was taken away last year when benefits weren't meant _ away last year when benefits weren't meant to _ away last year when benefits weren't meant to go up in line with earnings but actually, it was 3—.1% cpi, that that doesn't — but actually, it was 3—.1% cpi, that that doesn't happen a second year running _ that doesn't happen a second year running. people who are struggling to make _ running. people who are struggling to make ends meet are not left without — to make ends meet are not left without enough benefit protection. what the _ without enough benefit protection. what the chancellor is going to be doing _ what the chancellor is going to be doing is— what the chancellor is going to be doing is looking for a combination of controls — doing is looking for a combination of controls on public spending, and there _ of controls on public spending, and there are _ of controls on public spending, and there are areas that can be cut, although— there are areas that can be cut, although the low hanging fruit has already— although the low hanging fruit has already been cut. but also, increases _ already been cut. but also, increases in taxes. as tony was saying. — increases in taxes. as tony was saying. this _ increases in taxes. as tony was saying, this falling more on the broader— saying, this falling more on the broader shoulders who can best afford _ broader shoulders who can best afford to— broader shoulders who can best afford to pay a little more. let�*s

afford to pay a little more. let's move onto _ afford to pay a little more. let's move onto the _ afford to pay a little more. let's move onto the i _ afford to pay a little more. let's move onto the i and _ afford to pay a little more. let's move onto the i and the - afford to pay a little more. let's move onto the i and the nurses| move onto the i and the nurses strike which looks set to go ahead. the biggest ever by nurses. this strike which looks set to go ahead. the biggest ever by nurses. as long as i can remember _ the biggest ever by nurses. as long as i can remember nurses _ the biggest ever by nurses. as long as i can remember nurses have - the biggest ever by nurses. as long | as i can remember nurses have been underpaid in the sense that their salaries don't reflect the importance of the work that they do. you and i think this might be something slightly different in the sense that it's a national strike by nurses with the nurses are just one group at the public sector workers who are feeling, obviously we're all feeling the inflation at 10%, obviously that impacts on everyone's ability, the cost of living being out of control means that the nhs, which i think is the countries biggest priority has to come forward with more realistic pate rises. that impact on the public finances —— that impacts on the public finances.

i completely respect nurses rice to go on strike like any other worker. i hope the next strike is successful and given a better payoff. ros. i hope the next strike is successful and given a better payoff. ros, 'ust readin: in and given a better payoff. ros, 'ust reading in england i and given a better payoff. ros, 'ust reading in england and i and given a better payoff. ros, 'ust reading in england and wales h and given a better payoff. ros, just reading in england and wales nhsl reading in england and wales nhs nurses have been given an average of 4.75% with extra for the lowest paid. what can the government do here, what do you think is going to be acceptable and what are they going to be able to afford? this is a really difficult _ going to be able to afford? this is a really difficult one. _ going to be able to afford? this is a really difficult one. of _ going to be able to afford? this is a really difficult one. of course i a really difficult one. of course nurses — a really difficult one. of course nurses are _ a really difficult one. of course nurses are under enormous pressure. atthough _ nurses are under enormous pressure. although the 30,000 nurses have voted _ although the 30,000 nurses have voted to— although the 30,000 nurses have voted to go on strike there is also coming _ voted to go on strike there is also coming behind potentiallyjunior coming behind potentially junior doctors. — coming behind potentiallyjunior doctors, midwives, paramedics across the board _ doctors, midwives, paramedics across the board. public sector workers are unhappy— the board. public sector workers are unhappy with the pay that they have. part of— unhappy with the pay that they have. part of the _ unhappy with the pay that they have. part of the pay that they have is in terms _ part of the pay that they have is in terms of pension. in the public sector, — terms of pension. in the public sector, pension is words a huge

month— sector, pension is words a huge month ask— sector, pension is words a huge month ask are in her salary. of course — month ask are in her salary. of course that's not quantified. and it's not— course that's not quantified. and it's not something they can live on todav~ _ it's not something they can live on todav~ the — it's not something they can live on today. the best thing that we can make _ today. the best thing that we can make sure — today. the best thing that we can make sure we do is to control inftation — make sure we do is to control inflation so that inflation comes down _ inflation so that inflation comes down and — inflation so that inflation comes down and people can afford the cost—of—living. and then the government has to work out very carefully — government has to work out very carefully and respectfully with all of its _ carefully and respectfully with all of its staff, particularly in the nhs — of its staff, particularly in the nhs given teacher tremendous pressure — nhs given teacher tremendous pressure they are under in the backlog — pressure they are under in the backlog to make sure the country has services _ backlog to make sure the country has services and — backlog to make sure the country has services and medical care to see us through— services and medical care to see us through the — services and medical care to see us through the coming year. let�*s services and medical care to see us through the coming year. let's move onto another— through the coming year. let's move onto another story _ through the coming year. let's move onto another story in _ through the coming year. let's move onto another story in the _ through the coming year. let's move onto another story in the telegraph | onto another story in the telegraph gavin williamson and the complaint that was made against him saying the prime minister rishi sunak was warned about the complaints before he gave him a job in his cabinet. yes. this is yet more of the saga

with the be frank, i never understood by his ever been promoted into any position he's never struck me as particularly talented. it was a real surprise to me that he was in the cabinet. now it turns out that he was being abusive towards wendy morton, the chief wept over the queens funeral. —— chief wept. rishi sunak has been the prime minister for a couple weeks and is already involved in two massive appointments. it seems either a lack ofjudgment or it shows that he doesn't care what people tell him that these ministers are under investigation. williams had to resign for leaking information to the national security which he said he didn't do, he said that was under teresa may's partnership. itjust shows that the prime minister idol

lacksjudgment or shows that the prime minister idol lacks judgment or doesn't listen. taste lacks 'udgment or doesn't listen. we can't lacksjudgment or doesn't listen. we can't go without talking about one story on the front of quite a few papers with up his foray the jungle. according to the sun ritchie has said he's in matt hancock up for airing on i'm a celebrity.- said he's in matt hancock up for airing on i'm a celebrity. have you watch it tonight? _ airing on i'm a celebrity. have you watch it tonight? i _ airing on i'm a celebrity. have you watch it tonight? i haven't - airing on i'm a celebrity. have you | watch it tonight? i haven't watched it but _ watch it tonight? i haven't watched it but i_ watch it tonight? i haven't watched it but i 2am — watch it tonight? i haven't watched it but 12am disappointed that we have _ it but 12am disappointed that we have a _ it but 12am disappointed that we have a sitting mp who is not with his constituents at a time of national— his constituents at a time of national crisis. there are huge problems— national crisis. there are huge problems all across the country. the idea that _ problems all across the country. the idea that mps can go off for a while and not _ idea that mps can go off for a while and not bother with their constituency duties while parliament is sitting _ constituency duties while parliament is sitting seems to me to be questionable. i'm very glad that the prime _ questionable. i'm very glad that the prime minister has questioned it. we can't have _ prime minister has questioned it. we can't have mps who are paid to be in parliament and represent their constituencies, i believejust

parliament and represent their constituencies, i believe just going off to _ constituencies, i believe just going off to do _ constituencies, i believe just going off to do a — constituencies, i believe just going off to do a television programme like this— off to do a television programme like this while they are meant to be~~~ _ like this while they are meant to be... �* . like this while they are meant to be... . . . . ., ., be... and earning a huge amount of mone . be... and earning a huge amount of money- one — be... and earning a huge amount of money. one wonders _ be... and earning a huge amount of money. one wonders whether - be... and earning a huge amount of money. one wonders whether there might be a ban on these things after this. it’s might be a ban on these things after this. �* . . might be a ban on these things after this. �* , . ., might be a ban on these things after this. �*, . ., , ~ this. it's hard to see... and leisure standing _ this. it's hard to see... and leisure standing in - this. it's hard to see... and leisure standing in the - this. it's hard to see... and | leisure standing in the house this. it's hard to see... and - leisure standing in the house of common and you got mtv in your not right to be an mp. this tells me everything you need about matt hancox character. roz is right, we rightly expect mps to be doing their work for the constituents and i don't see any excuse for him trotting off to the jungle for weeks on end. i think it's better matt hancock trying to build eight media career which i find it interesting proposition. career which i find it interesting proposition-— career which i find it interesting --roosition. , ., _ . proposition. obviously, matt hancock is not here to — proposition. obviously, matt hancock is not here to defend _ proposition. obviously, matt hancock is not here to defend himself- proposition. obviously, matt hancock is not here to defend himself is - proposition. obviously, matt hancock is not here to defend himself is in - is not here to defend himself is in the jungle is not here to defend himself is in thejungle in is not here to defend himself is in the jungle in australia. is not here to defend himself is in thejungle in australia. we is not here to defend himself is in the jungle in australia. we will see you a little bit later. that is it for the papers. tony at ros will be back at 1130. goodbye for now.