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this is bbc news — these are the latest headlines in the uk and around the world. the ukrainian government says national morale has been given a huge boost by the recapture of the city of kherson after months of occupation. in the us, the democrats have taken a step closer to retaining control of the senate, as mark kelly is re—elected in arizona. allies of the uk justice secretary dominic raab have defended his conduct, after reports he behaved aggressively towards staff during his previous stint in the role. meanwhile, former uk health secretary matt hancock has said he is looking for forgiveness on tv show i'm a celebrity get me out of here. what i'm really looking for is a bit of forgiveness. that is what i am really looking for. film
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of forgiveness. that is what i am really looking for.— really looking for. oh my god, i nearly cried _ really looking for. oh my god, i nearly cried then. _ new zealand have beaten england to win the women's rugby world cup in front of a record crowd in auckland. hello and welcome to viewers in the uk and around the world. the united states has said ukraine achieved an "extraordinary victory" after its military forces regained control of kherson following a total russian withdrawal. ukraine's foreign minister said they were winning the battles on the ground — but the war continues. the russian troops who occupied the southern city are thought to be taking up new positions across the nearby river. in kherson, residents celebrated the russian withdrawal long into the night. the bbc�*s david lumb reports.
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cheering celebrations marking an important and symbolic win in this bloody war. kherson now back in ukraine hands after eight months of russian occupation. president zelensky called it an historic day, "we are taking our country back," he said, but vladimir putin's spokesman denied the retreat was humiliating, with officials describing the withdrawal as merely a redeployment. kherson is strategically vital. the withdrawal allows the russians to use the dnipro river as a defensive barrier to protect earlier gains. as they left, russian engineers blew up part of the antonovski bridge. lines of troops can be seen using a temporary crossing,
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before that was cut, too. speaking at a south east asian summit in cambodia, this morning the ukraine foreign minister said the fight would continue. we won the battle for kherson. kherson in the south, it was quite an exercise, i must say, but the war goes on and i understand that everyone wants this war to end as soon as possible, and we're definitely the ones who want it more than anybody else. the retreat did look better organized than some of russia's others in ukraine. not much left behind. a few dozen shells, mostly rubbish. cheering. for now, a time to celebrate but with russian guns only a few miles away, the people here are not out of danger.
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david lumb, bbc news. earlier i spoke to our correspondent in kyiv catherine byaruhanga about what this means in the wider context of the war. the ukrainian officials are calling it a stabilisation process, they haven't moved all of their troops into kherson city at once, they have sentin into kherson city at once, they have sent in special units to try to take control of the city, we are still hearing there are some russian soldiers who were left behind following their retreat, we understand there are still some clashes with ukrainian forces and so the ukrainian government still needs to deal with those remnants of the russian forces that are also mines and on exploded and munitions all over kherson city and that is the next process. on top of that they have to think about rebuilding the city, it has been under russian
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occupation for eight months, it has been at the centre opening tense battle. water, electricity had been cut off and they still need to bring in policemen, nurses, to rebuild the city that has been under russian occupation and not to mention the fact that the russian forces are now just across the river on the eastern bank of the dnipro river and there they are putting up their defences and so the fight will continue between the two forces. we and so the fight will continue between the two forces. we have some ictures of between the two forces. we have some pictures of the — between the two forces. we have some pictures of the approach _ between the two forces. we have some pictures of the approach along - pictures of the approach along towards the dam at nearby, there has been a lot of reporting about that, because we have talked about in your report as well about the first the suggestion is is that we have potential damage to a down —— the antonivskiy bridge. what we know about the dam? that antonivskiy bridge. what we know about the dam?—
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antonivskiy bridge. what we know about the dam? that this is the nova kakhovka dam- _ about the dam? that this is the nova kakhovka dam. we _ about the dam? that this is the nova kakhovka dam. we have _ about the dam? that this is the nova kakhovka dam. we have images - about the dam? that this is the nova | kakhovka dam. we have images from about the dam? that this is the nova . kakhovka dam. we have images from an american satellite, showing damage to the bridge, earlier there were reports that there may be the bridge, the footbridge along the dam could have been destroyed, we don't know the extent of the damage to the kakhovka dam, but this is a significant piece of infrastructure in southern ukraine, it is three kilometres long, it is supplying water to much of southern ukraine and also to crimea that is under russian occupation, but the biggest concern here is if there is significant damage to the dam and it collapses, you could see a deluge of water flooding collapses, you could see a deluge of waterflooding much collapses, you could see a deluge of water flooding much of southern ukraine, that will have an impact on are so many people are living in that area, so we're still trying to more information about this. but in the past few weeks we have seen both of ukrainians and the russians accusing each other plotting to damage this dam. so has been on the
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minds of officials, both here in kyiv and in moscow, we don't know what has happened to it or who could have caused the damage of. earlier i spoke to the former head of ukraine's national security council, oleksander danylyuk, he told me what gaining kherson means for ukrainians. that is a feeling that across ukraine, _ that is a feeling that across ukraine, it's almost like a national holiday. _ ukraine, it's almost like a national holiday, everyone is cheering, congratulating each other. for me it is even _ congratulating each other. for me it is even more — congratulating each other. for me it is even more important because my military— is even more important because my military unit — is even more important because my military unit raised to serve before injury— military unit raised to serve before injury was— military unit raised to serve before injury was there, seeing the messages from them, sharing their impressions, about the population meeting _ impressions, about the population meeting ukrainian army. it's great, it's a _ meeting ukrainian army. it's great, it's a great— meeting ukrainian army. it's great, it's a great victory, but we understand that war is not over, russia _ understand that war is not over, russia wiii— understand that war is not over, russia will go into deep defence on the left _ russia will go into deep defence on the left bank and this is like... it
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will put _ the left bank and this is like... it will put them on and advantaged position — will put them on and advantaged position. so the next months will be more _ position. so the next months will be more difficult and we need to understand this and get used to it. i understand this and get used to it. i have _ understand this and get used to it. i have heard that russians had plenty — i have heard that russians had plenty of — i have heard that russians had plenty of time to retreat, to retreat _ plenty of time to retreat, to retreat from kherson. but i disagree that there _ retreat from kherson. but i disagree that there was a statement that they have done _ that there was a statement that they have done everything perfectly, no actually— have done everything perfectly, no actually our army managed to capture actually our army managed to capture a couple _ actually our army managed to capture a couple of _ actually our army managed to capture a couple of helicopters, some armoured _ a couple of helicopters, some armoured vehicles, so it's actually telling _ armoured vehicles, so it's actually telling us — armoured vehicles, so it's actually telling us that it doesn't matter how much time russian army has, they still, it— how much time russian army has, they still, it is— how much time russian army has, they still, it is visible this week command, very weak motivation of russian _ command, very weak motivation of russian army, so that they leave even _ russian army, so that they leave even undamaged and very precious equipment behind. these will be put
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into use _ equipment behind. these will be put into use by— equipment behind. these will be put into use by our army. clearly, on motion _ into use by our army. clearly, on motion emotional side, —— on the motivational— motion emotional side, —— on the motivational side, we are winning. can good _ motivational side, we are winning. can good morale on your side overcome the obvious advantage of the russians enjoy, in terms of their long and well—established military? their long and well-established milita ? , , , their long and well-established milita ? , ,,. ._ military? yes, this is clearly the case. i military? yes, this is clearly the case- i am _ military? yes, this is clearly the case- lamjust_ military? yes, this is clearly the case. i am just wondering - military? yes, this is clearly the case. i am just wondering how. military? yes, this is clearly the l case. i am just wondering how the russian _ case. i am just wondering how the russian leadership is communicating this defeat, clear defeat, they can call it— this defeat, clear defeat, they can call it a _ this defeat, clear defeat, they can call it a strategic retreat, but don't — call it a strategic retreat, but don't forget that only a couple of months — don't forget that only a couple of months ago russia annexed kherson territory. _ months ago russia annexed kherson territory, they consider it a russian _ territory, they consider it a russian territory and the speaker of putin— russian territory and the speaker of putin said _ russian territory and the speaker of putin said yesterday that, despite military— putin said yesterday that, despite military decisions by military
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commanders, it's still a russian territory~ — commanders, it's still a russian territory. so i am just... let all of us _ territory. so i am just... let all of usjust— territory. so i am just... let all of usjust imagine how russia should feel, of usjust imagine how russia should feel. two— of usjust imagine how russia should feel, two months ago they celebrated annexation of kherson, now ukrainians liberated the largest city since — ukrainians liberated the largest city since february, but russia considers— city since february, but russia considers it that we are attacking them _ considers it that we are attacking them on — considers it that we are attacking them on their territory, it is so absurd — them on their territory, it is so absurd will— them on their territory, it is so absurd will stop it also sends a signal— absurd will stop it also sends a signal how weak russia is and i am sure that _ signal how weak russia is and i am sure that russian population is learning — sure that russian population is learning the truth about real capacity— learning the truth about real capacity and ability of russia and they are — capacity and ability of russia and they are far beyond and far less than _ they are far beyond and far less than they— they are far beyond and far less than they claim to be. let they are far beyond and far less than they claim to be.— they are far beyond and far less than they claim to be. let me ask ou than they claim to be. let me ask you finally. _ than they claim to be. let me ask you finally, winter— than they claim to be. let me ask you finally, winter is _ than they claim to be. let me ask you finally, winter is coming, - you finally, winter is coming, although there was obviously fighting has been going on for years in parts of ukraine, the whole country is affected by this, how difficult is this winter season going to be in practical terms? for
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going to be in practicalterms? for ukraine going to be in practical terms? for ukraine it will be extremely difficult, russia, they chose a strategy — difficult, russia, they chose a strategy a couple of months ago to basically— strategy a couple of months ago to basically destroy our infrastructure, with a specific focus — infrastructure, with a specific focus on _ infrastructure, with a specific focus on energy of the structure during _ focus on energy of the structure during the — focus on energy of the structure during the winter. so far it is quite — during the winter. so far it is quite warm, but eventually it will -et quite warm, but eventually it will get colder— quite warm, but eventually it will get colder and obviously, with no heating. — get colder and obviously, with no heating, there will be serious damage — heating, there will be serious damage to the housing, to all civilians — damage to the housing, to all civilians and infrastructure. that will have — civilians and infrastructure. that will have a — civilians and infrastructure. that will have a serious convocation, murder— will have a serious convocation, murder may be there will be a new wave _ murder may be there will be a new wave of— murder may be there will be a new wave of refugees to europe, —— will be. wave of refugees to europe, —— will be it— wave of refugees to europe, —— will be it will— wave of refugees to europe, —— will be it will not — wave of refugees to europe, —— will be. it will not diminish our army, which _ be. it will not diminish our army, which we — be. it will not diminish our army, which we will only become more motivated to destroy russia and liberate — motivated to destroy russia and liberate our territory, we will not let them — liberate our territory, we will not let them destroy our country, today and we _ let them destroy our country, today and we will— let them destroy our country, today and we will not give our future. the democratic senator for arizona, the former astronaut mark kelly,
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has beaten his republican rival for his seat in the us congress. his defeat of blake masters means the two parties now have 49 seats each in the senate. there are two races still to call — georgia and nevada — if the democrats win either, they will retain control of the senate. our north america correspondent, david willis, has the details. this is very, very good news for the democrats. they'll be extremely pleased with this result from arizona, given that inflation here is at a a0 year high and joe biden's approval ratings have sunk to a very low level, many people were predicting there will be some sort of rout on the part of the republicans, but it didn't materialise. and the democrats are on course to retain their majority in the upper house or maybe even enhance it. it comes down to two outstanding senate states. those are nevada and georgia.
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nevada is said to be neck and neck. georgia, of course, we know, was so close that it's already gone to a runoff. so it may not be until the 6th of december when that runoff takes place that we know the full complexion of the upper house. but this is very good news for the democrats. they also, of course, have been widely predicted to lose a lot of seats in the house of representatives. and it appears that that's not been the case either. i've been speaking to christopher carman from the university of glasgow. i asked him whether the votes in arizona were processed quickly, to quell any doubts over the result. given what happened two years ago when many of the republicans i suggest that the election had been stolen. �* ., , suggest that the election had been stolen. �* . , ., , suggest that the election had been stolen. �* . , . , stolen. already we are seeing some of those allegations _ stolen. already we are seeing some of those allegations on _ stolen. already we are seeing some of those allegations on the - of those allegations on the republican side there have been
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complaints, particularly raised by the republican candidate for governor in arizona, saying they believe — governor in arizona, saying they believe that the election officials are slow — believe that the election officials are slow walking, which isjust not true at _ are slow walking, which isjust not true at all. — are slow walking, which isjust not true at all, the rules in place in arizona — true at all, the rules in place in arizona and _ true at all, the rules in place in arizona and nevada are quite rigorous _ arizona and nevada are quite rigorous in terms of the count. partially— rigorous in terms of the count. partially because that was what the republicans set up quite a few years a-o, republicans set up quite a few years ago. so _ republicans set up quite a few years ago. so it— republicans set up quite a few years ago. so it is— republicans set up quite a few years ago, so it is a rather laborious count, _ ago, so it is a rather laborious count, particularly when we are getting — count, particularly when we are getting into these ballots that were submitted by post and in a drop box, the processes by which those were handled _ the processes by which those were handled to take some time. so it is going _ handled to take some time. so it is going to _ handled to take some time. so it is going to he — handled to take some time. so it is going to be into next week probably where _ going to be into next week probably where we _ going to be into next week probably where we will know the result for nevada — where we will know the result for nevada. we should also say alaska still we _ nevada. we should also say alaska still we won't know, probably not until the — still we won't know, probably not until the end of november as well, but we _ until the end of november as well, but we know that'll go for republican. so but we know that'll go for republican.— but we know that'll go for republican. but we know that'll go for reublican. ., ,, ., ., republican. so that less of an issue. republican. so that less of an issue- in _ republican. so that less of an issue. in terms _ republican. so that less of an issue. in terms of— republican. so that less of an issue. in terms of the - republican. so that less of an issue. in terms of the results| republican. so that less of an i
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issue. in terms of the results in arizona, there was an interesting article in the financial times talking about young voters, suggesting that about 400,000 votes which were cast by young people, a significantly high turnout. a similar point being made about women voters over the last couple of days, a lot of analysts have pointed out how strongly women it turned out to vote. are these two factors significant for the democrats apparent ability to withhold what there is supposed to be arab republican wave?— there is supposed to be arab republican wave? those will be crucial demographic _ republican wave? those will be crucial demographic groups - republican wave? those will be crucial demographic groups for | republican wave? those will be i crucial demographic groups for the democrats, with young voters particularly, we saw some of the highest — particularly, we saw some of the highest turnout for young voters in the 2018 _ highest turnout for young voters in the 2018 midterm elections, this one looks like _ the 2018 midterm elections, this one looks like it'sjust the 2018 midterm elections, this one looks like it's just slightly below, but we _ looks like it's just slightly below, but we are — looks like it's just slightly below, but we are seeing is the generation 2 type _ but we are seeing is the generation 2 type voters, particularly the newest — 2 type voters, particularly the newest voters, are turning out,
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actually _ newest voters, are turning out, actually even more so than millennial is. so it is an important demographic group and, as you say, also women — demographic group and, as you say, also women. the issue is of course that drove — also women. the issue is of course that drove out seem to be as far as we can— that drove out seem to be as far as we can tell— that drove out seem to be as far as we can tell from the exit poll so far, we can tell from the exit poll so far. the — we can tell from the exit poll so far, the issue of abortion access, abortion— far, the issue of abortion access, abortion rights and then also this broader— abortion rights and then also this broader idea of democracy being on the ballot — broader idea of democracy being on the ballot. there has been some reporting — the ballot. there has been some reporting out to say that particularly amongst young voters and amongst women that the concern was not _ and amongst women that the concern was notjust_ and amongst women that the concern was notjust abortion and amongst women that the concern was not just abortion access, but the idea — was not just abortion access, but the idea that the rolling back of abortion— the idea that the rolling back of abortion access might also be rolling — abortion access might also be rolling over into contraception or same-sex— rolling over into contraception or same—sex marriage, so there was concern _ same—sex marriage, so there was concern amongst these groups that they needed to get out to vote in order— they needed to get out to vote in order to — they needed to get out to vote in order to protect some of these rights — the headlines on bbc news: ukrainians celebrate into the night as russia withdraws thousands of soldiers from the city of kherson
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after months of occupation. in the us, the democrats have taken a step closer to retaining control of the senate, as mark kelly is re—elected in arizona. allies of the uk justice secretary dominic raab have defended his conduct, after reports he behaved aggressively towards staff during his previous stint in the role. reports appeared in the newspapers this morning, saturday, suggesting dominic rab had seen some of his staff leave his private office after being offered at the transfer when he returns to the government after rishi sunak was elected prime minister. the claims where he had been rude to them. reports suggest staff have been anxious about his return to thejustice department and had been offered the chance to transfer out because of his behaviour. and with me now is our political
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correspondent, jonathan blake. it's not the first and there have been complaints about dominic rab because my behaviour, wants do we know about this allegation? that the know about this allegation? at the guardian has _ know about this allegation? at the guardian has spoken _ know about this allegation? at the guardian has spoken to _ know about this allegation? at the guardian has spoken to several- guardian has spoken to several people who worked or who were working at the ministry ofjustice and their use of various terms from and their use of various terms from a demeaning or too rude to aggressive to describe his behaviour, and they claim that civil servants were given the option on his reappointment asjustice his reappointment as justice secretary, under his reappointment asjustice secretary, under rishi sunak, to either leave or be transferred to a different department, given concerns they might have had about the way they might have had about the way they were treated before. there is talk of a climate of fear, a climate of fear. one allegation that dominic rab behaved as a bully. but in a statement a spokesperson for the jeopardy minister mack said he has high standards, he works hard and expects a lot from esteem as well as of himself, he said he has worked
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well with officials to drive agenda across whitehall and always act with utmost professionalism, strong rejection of accusation. that statement reflects, as is the restatement from the ministry of justice, talking about high expectations and level of ambition among officials at the department of justice, the question is whether the behaviour has crossed the line, but it doesn't seem at this point that there is any formal complaint, certainly, or allegation against him. ~ ., ., certainly, or allegation against him. . ., , ., ., ., him. we had that resignation of gavin williamson _ him. we had that resignation of gavin williamson in _ him. we had that resignation of gavin williamson in the - him. we had that resignation of gavin williamson in the end - him. we had that resignation of gavin williamson in the end of. him. we had that resignation of i gavin williamson in the end of the stories that apparently somebody had informally complained to hr but not made a formal complaint, subsequently ministries can public they did make a formal complaint, clearly a different situation, he of course still has the prime minister e as thejustice secretary. is there a question of this government looks like it has a bit of form in the case of whether ministers sometimes
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throw their weight around? that case of whether ministers sometimes throw their weight around?— throw their weight around? that is the dancer throw their weight around? that is the danger of _ throw their weight around? that is the danger of rishi _ throw their weight around? that is the danger of rishi sunak, - throw their weight around? that is the danger of rishi sunak, and - the danger of rishi sunak, and especially given his promise on day one as prime minister to act with integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level, and having set out that the stall and demanded those very high standards he is going to find himself held to them and in the trouble is for rishi sunak is labourare them and in the trouble is for rishi sunak is labour are able to paint it asa bit sunak is labour are able to paint it as a bit of a running theme that standards are not being upheld, behaviour is not what it should be, thenit behaviour is not what it should be, then it will get very difficult for him. as you say, given that gavin williamson had to resign over accusations that he was a bully and there are questions about in a very different way as suella braverman does make behaviour as home secretary and dominic rab due, it is an unwelcome distraction at the very least for the minister mike.— least for the minister mike. british oliticians least for the minister mike. british politicians have _ least for the minister mike. british politicians have been _ least for the minister mike. british politicians have been involved - least for the minister mike. british politicians have been involved in l politicians have been involved in reality tv for at least the last 40 years, older viewers will remember when matthew parris as a backbencher saw if you live on benefits. that was the early 80s, look it up it is
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a great documentary and he was very candid about the experience. it began his broadcasting career and overtime led him out of politics. let's talk about somebody else who may be is on that trajectory, matt hancock, still an mp in suffolk, we had someone on the programme an hour ago saying he had turned down offers to be on reality tv, because he didn't want to be away from his constituents. matt hancock is in australia, has been getting a fair bit of luck, lost the party whip for going ahead without permission to do this, but he has actually said, out there, he is looking for something other than recognition, publicity for charity and the theme. lemon ikea is looking for forgiveness he said in last night was mike episode and it was the moment when the other demo elephant in the room was... he was asked about his resignation and about the government handling of the pandemic. this is bound to come up,
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it led in many ways the government's response during a large part of the covid pandemic, he explained that he hadn't broken any laws but covid pandemic, he explained that he hadn't broken any laws— hadn't broken any laws but he had broken with _ hadn't broken any laws but he had broken with the _ hadn't broken any laws but he had broken with the guidance, - hadn't broken any laws but he had broken with the guidance, the - broken with the guidance, the problem was he said that it was his guidance, so why did he do it, the question from one of his camp mates, he said it was a mistake and it happened because he had fallen in love. he was challenged on that, one of the other contestants said she had lost an aunt to covid, couldn't go to and visit her in hospital, had to stand alone at the funeral, for her and otherfamilies to stand alone at the funeral, for her and other families who to stand alone at the funeral, for her and otherfamilies who have to stand alone at the funeral, for her and other families who have lost loved ones to covid, that explanation and apology would not cut it. but as you say, matt hancock was saying somewhat emotionally that he was looking for forgiveness, that... did he it was likely found sympathy among fellow contestants, the key will be in terms of his future as a politician, whatever he chooses to do, beyond parliament, how much the public, by and have
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sympathy and accept his explanation and apology. sympathy and accept his explanation and apology-— and apology. thank you very much. that's have — and apology. thank you very much. that's have a _ and apology. thank you very much. that's have a look _ and apology. thank you very much. that's have a look at _ and apology. thank you very much. that's have a look at what - and apology. thank you very much. that's have a look at what matt - that's have a look at what matt hancock had to say last night. what i'm really looking for is a bit of forgiveness. that is what i am really looking for. fih of forgiveness. that is what i am really looking for.— of forgiveness. that is what i am really looking for. oh my goodness, i would really looking for. oh my goodness, i would nearly _ really looking for. oh my goodness, i would nearly cry _ really looking for. oh my goodness, i would nearly cry there. _ really looking for. oh my goodness, i would nearly cry there. i'm - really looking for. oh my goodness, i would nearly cry there. i'm joined l i would nearly cry there. i'm “oined now b a i would nearly cry there. i'm “oined now by a friend i i would nearly cry there. i'm “oined now by a friend of i i would nearly cry there. i'm “oined now by a friend of matt h i would nearly cry there. i'm joined now by a friend of matt hancock, l i would nearly cry there. i'm joined l now by a friend of matt hancock, the former... liberal democrat mp lembit opik, who was of himself a contestant on "i'm a celeb" back in 2010. i cannot believe it was that long ago, thank you very much... at least... let me ask you, first of all, i don't know whether you have spoken to him before he went into thejungle, i don't know, it perhaps he asked for your advise having given you were through its? what you think is motivation was? he
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wasn't- -- — think is motivation was? he wasn't... he _ think is motivation was? he: wasn't... he didn't ask me for advice beforehand, i didn't know him until everybody else knew that he was going in, the advise i would have given is be yourself, be humble, you will get... there are a lot of people who don't think you should be there, and finally, if you are going tojust mightjust be sincere, don't play up. i didn't need to, because he... he sincere, don't play up. i didn't need to, because he...- need to, because he... he is clearly. _ need to, because he... he is clearly. the _ need to, because he... he is clearly, the tone _ need to, because he... he is clearly, the tone of- need to, because he... he is clearly, the tone of losing i need to, because he... he is i clearly, the tone of losing aside the stunts and everything, the things they have to do, can actually for the programme for the tone of his interaction the programme, wanted to have you made that? lltlul’hat wanted to have you made that? what --eole wanted to have you made that? what people don't — wanted to have you made that? what people don't realise _ wanted to have you made that? brief people don't realise about him wanted to have you made that? ija'isgt people don't realise about him is that he is a sensitive person, people think he doesn't have emotion, he does. he has had on he has made a of mistakes, one thing about the show that you may not realise is that you cannot fake it,
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eventually you start being yourself, because you can't give it up unless you are an incredible... if... what i make of him is that he has told the truth, he wants forgiveness, but who from, may be from the public, but personally i think is many audience has been children. just on that, he clearly _ audience has been children. just on that, he clearly is _ audience has been children. just on that, he clearly is talking _ audience has been children. just on that, he clearly is talking about i that, he clearly is talking about covid, he is talking about his charity interests as well, inevitably there is a bit of promoting him, isn't that? presumably, to some extent he must recognise that it is going to be hard for him to stand again as an mp, may not even be allowed to if he doesn't get the web back, of course he could stand as an independent, records of them winning in that it is pretty low, doesn't happen very often, realistically, this is a man who is looking beyond politics? that who is looking beyond politics? git the jury is out on that, i have lost my seat, partly because of my celebrity profile, maybe i was naive about that in 2010, but then nadine
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dorries, she went on the jungle, she had a whip removed in the same way and went on to be a cabinet minister, what matt hancock will now have no idea about is what you want to do,... what is want to do,... i think he's trying to reinvent himself, i don't know if he will stand again next time, but also that is the biggest... will the public vote for him if he chooses to do that,... dean passed the test, he might do as well. but then it's really about whether he... sorry to interru -t i really about whether he... sorry to interrupt i suppose _ really about whether he... sorry to interrupt i suppose the _ really about whether he... sorry to interrupt i suppose the difference l interrupt i suppose the difference is is covid, he was one of those people in charge. he said it was his own guidance, also in the sense there is the problem for m is presumably unlike the nadine dorries who is just quite presumably unlike the nadine dorries who isjust quite noisy, high—profile backbencher, what you... he was doing a seriousjob
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high—profile backbencher, what you... he was doing a serious job at a time of crisis and it's quite hard for people to say that was then and this is now. bill for people to say that was then and this is now— this is now. all of that is true, he is a aood this is now. all of that is true, he is a good friend _ this is now. all of that is true, he is a good friend of— this is now. all of that is true, he is a good friend of mine, - this is now. all of that is true, he is a good friend of mine, but i'm| is a good friend of mine, but i'm sure he wouldn't mind me saying he made mistakes as a cabinet minister, regardless of the ins and outs of covid policy. he broke the covid policy and... he has admitted that. i'm afraid we have to very... separate mistakes from them stating it in government,...— it in government,... thank you very much for talking _ it in government,... thank you very much for talking to _ it in government,... thank you very much for talking to us. _ it in government,... thank you very much for talking to us. you - it in government,... thank you very much for talking to us. you have i much for talking to us. you have been watching bbc news, thank you for your company. new zealand have won the women's rugby world cup for a sixth time after a dramatic victory over england at auckland's eden park. the red roses held the lead for much of the game until new zealand scored a late try with nine minutes to go, putting them ahead by three points. earlier, i spoke to a couple
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of people who were celebrating and commiserating. steviejackson is captain of the wasps women amateurs team , she's an england fan, and deborah etheredge and christine wilson are new zealand fans. i started by asking stevie how she was feeling, after it looked like england were going to break through at one point. it was a devastating end for england today, _ it was a devastating end for england today, they— it was a devastating end for england today. they have _ it was a devastating end for england today, they have finally— it was a devastating end for england today, they have finally their - it was a devastating end for england today, they have finally their world. today, they have finally their world record _ today, they have finally their world record run — today, they have finally their world record run of— today, they have finally their world record run of victories _ today, they have finally their world record run of victories has - today, they have finally their world record run of victories has come i today, they have finally their world record run of victories has come toj record run of victories has come to an end. _ record run of victories has come to an end. but — record run of victories has come to an end. but what— record run of victories has come to an end, but what a _ record run of victories has come to an end, but what a way— record run of victories has come to an end, but what a way to- record run of victories has come to an end, but what a way to do- record run of victories has come to an end, but what a way to do it, i an end, but what a way to do it, with— an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 — an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 players. _ an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 players, for— an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 players, for most - an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 players, for most of i an end, but what a way to do it, with 14 players, for most of the | with 14 players, for most of the match — with 14 players, for most of the match they _ with 14 players, for most of the match they took _ with 14 players, for most of the match they took it _ with 14 players, for most of the match they took it right - with 14 players, for most of the match they took it right down l with 14 players, for most of the | match they took it right down to with 14 players, for most of the i match they took it right down to the last minute, — match they took it right down to the last minute, we _ match they took it right down to the last minute, we thought _ match they took it right down to the last minute, we thought they- match they took it right down to the last minute, we thought they would| last minute, we thought they would manage _ last minute, we thought they would manage it _ last minute, we thought they would manage it for— last minute, we thought they would manage it for a _ last minute, we thought they would manage it for a minute _ last minute, we thought they would manage it for a minute there - last minute, we thought they would manage it for a minute there and i last minute, we thought they would. manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated _ manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated for — manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated for them, _ manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated for them, all— manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated for them, all the - manage it for a minute there and i'm devastated for them, all the hard i devastated for them, all the hard work— devastated for them, all the hard work they— devastated for them, all the hard work they have _ devastated for them, all the hard work they have risen, _ devastated for them, all the hard work they have risen, but - devastated for them, all the hard work they have risen, but it i devastated for them, all the hard work they have risen, but it has. work they have risen, but it has been _ work they have risen, but it has beeniust— work they have risen, but it has beeniust a _ work they have risen, but it has beenjust a fantastic— work they have risen, but it has been just a fantastic few - work they have risen, but it has been just a fantastic few weeks | work they have risen, but it has. been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby. _ been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby. we — been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby. we have _ been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby. we have to _ been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby, we have to see _ been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby, we have to see out- been just a fantastic few weeks of rugby, we have to see out there l been just a fantastic few weeks of. rugby, we have to see out there on the international— rugby, we have to see out there on the international stage. _ rugby, we have to see out there on the international stage.— the international stage. stevie, what did you — the international stage. stevie, what did you make _ the international stage. stevie, what did you make of— the international stage. stevie, what did you make of the i the international stage. stevie, what did you make of the newl the international stage. stevie, - what did you make of the new zealand performance, as a fan of england? they were outstanding, and for me it
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'ust they were outstanding, and for me it just brings _ they were outstanding, and for me it just brings me — they were outstanding, and for me it just brings me such _ they were outstanding, and for me it just brings me suchjoy_ they were outstanding, and for me it just brings me suchjoy to _ they were outstanding, and for me it just brings me suchjoy to see - just brings me suchjoy to see england — just brings me suchjoy to see england gets _ just brings me suchjoy to see england gets to _ just brings me suchjoy to see england gets to compete i just brings me suchjoy to see england gets to compete with just brings me suchjoy to see i england gets to compete with a just brings me suchjoy to see - england gets to compete with a team that are _ england gets to compete with a team that are so _ england gets to compete with a team that are so ferocious _ england gets to compete with a team that are so ferocious and _ england gets to compete with a team that are so ferocious and so - that are so ferocious and so inspiring _ that are so ferocious and so inspiring and _ that are so ferocious and so inspiring and it— that are so ferocious and so inspiring and it was - that are so ferocious and so inspiring and it was such i that are so ferocious and so inspiring and it was such a i that are so ferocious and so i inspiring and it was such a well matched — inspiring and it was such a well matched game _ inspiring and it was such a well matched game and _ inspiring and it was such a well matched game and in- inspiring and it was such a well matched game and in the i inspiring and it was such a well matched game and in the endl inspiring and it was such a well i matched game and in the end new zealand _ matched game and in the end new zealand took— matched game and in the end new zealand took the _ matched game and in the end new zealand took the points. _ matched game and in the end new zealand took the points.— matched game and in the end new zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but — zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but the _ zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but the shoe _ zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but the shoe on _ zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but the shoe on the - zealand took the points. deborah and christine, but the shoe on the other. christine, but the shoe on the other foot, what did you make of england? you can be magnanimous now because you won? tlat you can be magnanimous now because ou won? ., ., , , you won? not have, we can be, but we have to be honest, _ you won? not have, we can be, but we have to be honest, they _ you won? not have, we can be, but we have to be honest, they were - you won? not have, we can be, but we have to be honest, they were just i have to be honest, they were just amazing _ have to be honest, they were just amazing and all credit to them, i am amazing and all credit to them, i am a rugby— amazing and all credit to them, i am a rugby fan. — amazing and all credit to them, i am a rugby fan, and i will calla amazing and all credit to them, i am a rugby fan, and i will call a good team _ a rugby fan, and i will call a good team a _ a rugby fan, and i will call a good team a good team and they... i am blessed _ team a good team and they... i am blessed that — team a good team and they... i am blessed that they were only 14 english — blessed that they were only 14 english players on that field, because _ english players on that field, because i think if there had been 15 players. _ because i think if there had been 15 players, they result may have been different _ players, they result may have been different and england would be
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waving — different and england would be waving winners flags right now. so they werem — waving winners flags right now. so they were... they were just amazing, england _ they were... they were just amazing, england have been amazing all the way through this tournament and they rightly— way through this tournament and they rightly held the team to beat and i am just— rightly held the team to beat and i am just grateful that new zealand were able to come and scrape out a win, all— were able to come and scrape out a win, all i_ were able to come and scrape out a win, all i can— were able to come and scrape out a win, all i can say, but a great showcase _ win, all i can say, but a great showcase for women because i rugby, and it— showcase for women because i rugby, and it wasn't— showcase for women because i rugby, and it wasn'tjust new showcase for women because i rugby, and it wasn't just new zealand, england. — and it wasn't just new zealand, england, god, they werejust amazing _ england, god, they were 'ust amazinu. , . ., , england, god, they were 'ust amazinu. ,~ . , ., amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them — amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them and _ amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them and thanks _ amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them and thanks to - amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them and thanks to all- amazing. they certainly were, thanks to all of them and thanks to all of- to all of them and thanks to all of you for your company. there is the weather. it really is shaping up to be quite a nice saturday out there. lots of sunshine around for many. let's take a look at bradford from just a few hours ago. we did see some early morning low cloud and mist in some places, but that's breaking up quite nicely. we could be chasing a little bit of fairweather cloud around favoured
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