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in small boats this year — the highest since records began in 2018 you are watching bbc news. political thinking with nick robinson la ke lake hello and welcome to political thinking. it was during the most to save the planet. the people who are attaching themselves to those areas or throwing soup or mashed potatoes on order masterpieces? is the political leaders who crammed into that resort in egypt for the 27th summit where was the scientist try to find ways to carry on living our lives without catastrophically warming of the planet? i think you

would add to that list and a bit of a puzzle, given the increased concern about the environment and climate change. i'm joined by the co—leader, one of two co—leaders and she used to be an engineer and wind farms. she concluded that solving the climate crisis when turbine at a time is not going to work, a counsellor in bristol and instrumental in making this the first city to declare a climate emergency and shejoins me first city to declare a climate emergency and she joins me today. looking to political thinking. have you ever been tempted to glue yourself to an old master or tie yourself to an old master or tie yourself onto an entry that not chosen to that route myself but

i do think there is a very important rule for protest in any healthy democracy and you only have to look at the democracies that do not allow and stamp down on protest to see that itjust doesn't make for a good society for the political decision—making. but my focus is the co—leader of the green party is and on protests in the streets, it's about getting fantastic counsellors and assembly members elected at all levels of government to enact the policies that will tackle climate change. a, policies that will tackle climate chance. , ., . ., ., change. a democratic route and protesters. _ change. a democratic route and protesters. is — change. a democratic route and protesters, is it _ change. a democratic route and protesters, is it something - change. a democratic route and protesters, is it something in i change. a democratic route and. protesters, is it something in you and your younger days that you were tempted to do? is there some people the look at in which she had done that? i the look at in which she had done that? ., the look at in which she had done that? . ., ~ that? i have partaken in the rotests that? i have partaken in the protests i — that? i have partaken in the protests i think _ that? i have partaken in the protests i think that's - that? i have partaken in the protests i think that's an . that? i have partaken in the - protests i think that's an important part of the mix. i think one of reasons why i'm pursuing change through party politics is that i think that is where i personally can

at the most value to have a background as an engineer in the renewable energy sector and i understand the signs and i think it is good to have people understand the science in the decision—making to raise the issue and the question that needs to be asked. i support the right to protest and i think thatis the right to protest and i think that is difference between the green party and other political parties and i think it is essential when is an important role but that i agree with every protest that takes place, certainly not. i think some of them are quite well targeted to make their points while they think others are not really targeted at the right people or the balance of disruption might not be what i would choose. it is not for me to decide. h0??? might not be what i would choose. it is not for me to decide.— is not for me to decide. how you became involved _ is not for me to decide. how you became involved and _ is not for me to decide. how you became involved and engaged, i is not for me to decide. how you i became involved and engaged, the early campaigns when you're at

school, when you start to become, i suppose, they're not about the environment, there are other causes. i got involved in campaigns on particular issues, i was part of the stop the war campaign and this was in the run—up to the iraq war. you in the run-up to the iraq war. you are 18 at the _ in the run-up to the iraq war. you are 18 at the time _ in the run-up to the iraq war. you are 18 at the time of _ in the run—up to the iraq war. you are 18 at the time of tony blair in the iraq war. are 18 at the time of tony blair in the iraq war-— the iraq war. yes, that was happening around - the iraq war. yes, that was happening around the - the iraq war. yes, that was happening around the time j the iraq war. yes, that was l happening around the time i the iraq war. yes, that was - happening around the time i was doing my a levels and that also make a campaign called mixed trade fair. listeners were my age or older remember that fair trade, listeners were my age or older rememberthat fairtrade, coffee listeners were my age or older remember that fair trade, coffee and bananas did not use to be available in supermarkets. if you wanted to buy those products that were produced paying people a decent wage and avoiding child slavery, and you had to usually go to a church hall

for two hours to get your chocolate bars. �* , ., . for two hours to get your chocolate bars. �* ,, ., ,, for two hours to get your chocolate bars. ., ., bars. and you wanted your shop to rovide bars. and you wanted your shop to provide those? _ bars. and you wanted your shop to provide those? yes, _ bars. and you wanted your shop to provide those? yes, they - bars. and you wanted your shop to provide those? yes, they did - bars. and you wanted your shop to provide those? yes, they did not l provide those? yes, they did not rovide provide those? yes, they did not provide those — provide those? yes, they did not provide those to _ provide those? yes, they did not provide those to me _ provide those? yes, they did not provide those to me that - provide those? yes, they did not provide those to me that they i provide those to me that they should. me and a group of my friends lobbied for the college to change their suppliers initially, they said no because the contract supplied not just ours but a number of others in the region and so, they said it would be too difficult. long story short, we did not take no for an answer and we said yes, notjust for x64 but for all of the education establishments they supplied. what establishments they supplied. what did ou establishments they supplied. what did you learn _ establishments they supplied. what did you learn them _ establishments they supplied. what did you learn them that experience of taking on the local authorities as well? i of taking on the local authorities as well? ~ , ., of taking on the local authorities as well? ~ ., of taking on the local authorities as well? ~ , ., ., . ., as well? i think you are the change is ossible as well? i think you are the change is possible that _ as well? i think you are the change is possible that campaigning - as well? i think you are the change is possible that campaigning works j is possible that campaigning works and even though i was interested in party politics that stage and had zero idea that i might one day be the leader of a political party, it undoubtedly led to a confidence in

myself that i could bring about change and i got involved in subsequent campaigns in my university and getting my to provide facilities and i got elected as a counsellor in bristol. confidence is an important _ counsellor in bristol. confidence is an important thing _ counsellor in bristol. confidence is an important thing in _ counsellor in bristol. confidence is an important thing in this - counsellor in bristol. confidence is an important thing in this and - counsellor in bristol. confidence is| an important thing in this and when the reason we had the confidence was a teacher. , ., ., ., a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school _ a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school but _ a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school but it _ a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school but it was _ a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school but it was a _ a teacher. yes. i went to a regular state school but it was a really - state school but it was a really good state school and is in the 20 blair everywhere yet this super teacher programmer basically, graduates would be encouraged to go and teach in the state school for a couple of years before going off and doing something else in my school received one of those. and this teacher, he set up lots of extracurricular activities that preps to other teachers would not of

had the capacity to do alongside theirjobs and one of them was a debating society which you, very unusual in state schools we learn the skills of debating and disagreeing politely using logical arguments and we competed with other schools in a region in which we were almost always the only state school in the competition which is very telling anything they did give me experience and skills that undoubtedly has proved helpful now stop why did you come from a political family? stop why did you come from a politicalfamily? no, not at all and i certainly was not very interested in party politics. you i certainly was not very interested in party politics-— in party politics. you are a campaign _ in party politics. you are a campaign before - in party politics. you are a campaign before you - campaign before you are interested in party politics but you're also quicker, is that important to your values? i quicker, is that important to your values? ,. ., ., ., , values? i discovered that when i was at the university _ values? i discovered that when i was at the university in _ values? i discovered that when i was at the university in campaigns - values? i discovered that when i was at the university in campaigns and l at the university in campaigns and peace, unfairness and workers' rights with things like the campaign

and climate issues and in the universities where it was through some of the individuals that i met in those campaigns and several individuals that i thought were particularly effective and proven in principle, it turned out that several of them were also quakers that peaked my interest and made me think 0k, that peaked my interest and made me think ok, maybe there's something to this thing of all of these people i admire are members.— this thing of all of these people i admire are members. alongside this, ou're admire are members. alongside this, you're wearing _ admire are members. alongside this, you're wearing a _ admire are members. alongside this, you're wearing a white _ admire are members. alongside this, you're wearing a white poppy - admire are members. alongside this, you're wearing a white poppy which, i you're wearing a white poppy which, when do you think it's a symbol of? i remember service people who have fallen as many of us do but i wear the white poppy to say never again and that we must work towards peace rather than just solving our disagreements through war and suffering. i5 disagreements through war and sufferinu. , _ ,., disagreements through war and sufferinu. , _ ., suffering. is the symbol of pacifism? _

suffering. is the symbol of pacifism? i _ suffering. is the symbol of pacifism? i probably - suffering. is the symbol of i pacifism? i probably wouldn't suffering. is the symbol of - pacifism? i probably wouldn't say i'm absolutely — pacifism? i probably wouldn't say i'm absolutely 10096 _ pacifism? i probably wouldn't say i'm absolutely 10096 pacifist, - pacifism? i probably wouldn't say i'm absolutely 10096 pacifist, i i i'm absolutely 100% pacifist, i think that the uk is right to be supporting ukraine at the moment, for example. but it is absolutely a philosophy of seeking peace in recognising that peace isn'tjust the absence of war, it is a proactive movement and it is hard work that takes decades and quakers have often been at the heart of peace building work all over the world they really value that about these movements and so, i were both. you study engineering, you get a job developing the technology that is part of the solutions of the climate crisis of the wind turbine, why when you're doing that, if this is the answer, i'm at the cutting edge and if i can find a better, cheaper way of developing renewable energy, that is the most important thing i can do is the most important thing i can do is yellow that is what i thought to

start with and the work i was doing was about start with and the work i was doing was aboui , ., start with and the work i was doing was abou| , . , start with and the work i was doing was about , . , ., was about estimating, but it would aenerate was about estimating, but it would generate and _ was about estimating, but it would generate and develop _ was about estimating, but it would generate and develop the - was about estimating, but it would generate and develop the site - was about estimating, but it would generate and develop the site out| generate and develop the site out and lay out the wind farms and that work does help to bring down the cost of renewable energy and so, if they can make more money out of wind farms, than they are likely to build more of them. however, it was very obvious from watching the news and hearing what was coming out of the earlier climate conferences that the uk in the world was not moving anything fast enough for carbon reduction and i could see from my job in the news, that the barrier to moving at the pace we needed to was not technology. there are still some technological challenges in a very clever people are continuing to work on but the real barrier to moving faster was political will of those in charge and so, ijoined the green

party a few years after he started working on the wind energy sector and initially with absolutely no intention of becoming a politician myself, was even a twinkle in my eye, it was literallyjust myself, was even a twinkle in my eye, it was literally just to myself, was even a twinkle in my eye, it was literallyjust to give the green party a little bit of money and a little bit of my volunteer time to help get other people elected because i knew that the green party agreed with my views on this. the the green party agreed with my views on this. , h, the green party agreed with my views onthis. , h. ,, on this. the big campaign success what people _ on this. the big campaign success what people thought _ on this. the big campaign success what people thought that - on this. the big campaign success - what people thought that investment, in other words, persuading pension farms, the university of bristol, and to take their funds out from investing in oil and gas companies. arguably, it'sjust investing in oil and gas companies. arguably, it's just another way of stopping oil, the same philosophy behind it and doesn't actually work though? behind it and doesn't actually work thou~h? ., , ., , behind it and doesn't actually work thourh? ., , ., , ., behind it and doesn't actually work thou~h? ., , ., ,., �*, though? really does and it's quite owerful though? really does and it's quite powerful and _ though? really does and it's quite powerful and in _ though? really does and it's quite powerful and in fact, _ though? really does and it's quite powerful and in fact, one - though? really does and it's quite powerful and in fact, one of - though? really does and it's quite powerful and in fact, one of the i powerful and in fact, one of the experts that i was setting in the speeches that i was writing in the documents are submitting as part of my efforts to get the university of

bristol to divest was quoting the governor of the bank of england at the time who was warning that investment and oil and gas extraction at that time, which was 2015, 2016, it is fiscally unwise, evenif 2015, 2016, it is fiscally unwise, even if you do not care about climate change. it even if you do not care about climate change.— even if you do not care about climate change. it was quite risky because you _ climate change. it was quite risky because you may _ climate change. it was quite risky because you may find _ climate change. it was quite risky because you may find your - climate change. it was quite risky - because you may find your investment disappear as people stop using fossil fuels.— fossil fuels. stranded assets because the _ fossil fuels. stranded assets because the vast _ fossil fuels. stranded assets because the vast majority i fossil fuels. stranded assets because the vast majority ofj fossil fuels. stranded assets - because the vast majority of the oil and gas that is under the ground and under the sea cannot be burned and it's a financial folly to invest in this, which is why we are opposing the current conservative government investing in this right now stop but it was successful in bristol and there are many around the country as well persuading the university to withdraw their money. in well persuading the university to withdraw their money.— well persuading the university to withdraw their money. in the piece of academic _

withdraw their money. in the piece of academic research _ withdraw their money. in the piece of academic research put _ withdraw their money. in the piece of academic research put 14 - withdraw their money. in the piece of academic research put 14 trillion of academic research put 1a trillion dollars of divestment and investment and this is gone up and so, all that campaigning in the front is not actually reduce the amount of money developing oil and gas. ida actually reduce the amount of money developing oil and gas.— developing oil and gas. no campaign is effective in — developing oil and gas. no campaign is effective in isolation, _ developing oil and gas. no campaign is effective in isolation, as _ developing oil and gas. no campaign is effective in isolation, as part - is effective in isolation, as part of the wider picture. but i think the movement is really powerful for a number of reasons. those big institutions and it is often universities, councils, religious institutions, i was also involved in the campaign to get quakers in britain to divest in fossil fuels a few years earlier. getting them to pass policies on divesting in fossil fuels means they have to find something else to invest in instead and very often, they would choose to invest in things that are not positive for society in so, that might be renewable energy or they might be renewable energy or they might be renewable energy or they might be other social goods like,

affordable housing, that is a fairly stable long—term investment for things like pension funds. the ian . ua . e things like pension funds. the language of— things like pension funds. the language of climate emergency is pretty familiar to people now, even the conservative government and theresa may adopted that language, we first argued ford, in bristol, i imagined it was not well known and there was quite a job for you to do to persuade people that language would make a difference.- would make a difference. that's riuht. in would make a difference. that's right- in 2018. _ would make a difference. that's right. in 2018, | _ would make a difference. that's right. in 2018, i proposed - would make a difference. that's right. in 2018, i proposed a - would make a difference. that's i right. in 2018, i proposed a motion to bristol city council and to declare a climate emergency to bring forward the cities carbon neutral target date from 2050 to 2030. and to lobby the government for the powers and the funding necessary to achieve that goal and, although the specific idea of the claimant climate emergency was pretty new my motion which will be successful in

europe and hundreds of other organisations of followed suit and about you take councils have declared an emergency meeting with ambitious targets as well.— ambitious targets as well. co-leader ofthe ambitious targets as well. co-leader of the greens. _ ambitious targets as well. co-leader of the greens, average _ ambitious targets as well. co-leader of the greens, average or _ ambitious targets as well. co-leader| of the greens, average or conference speech where you gave it to her fellow leader and, yes, the centre of it was an idea for this big tax on the wealthy to pay for more insulation. but when i read through it, there was a lot more on inequality and a lot more mature called fairness than there was on the climate emergency. i average are tweets that you did the last few days before the interview, they're not about the climate, thereby the whole series of other issues of the tory government behaviour this or that and have you actually become an anti—capitalist party rather than the primarily environmental party? the green party has always been

about climate and fairness and in fact, the reason why ijoined the party back in 2011 was because i realise that unlike the other political parties, the greens understood that climate justice and economic and social justice understood that climate justice and economic and socialjustice are inextricably linked in the of some the same injustices of some the same causes and many of the solutions they have to be tackled as one. share they have to be tackled as one. are ou an they have to be tackled as one. are you an anti—capitalist party? they have to be tackled as one. are you an anti-capitalist party? views| you an anti-capitalist party? views are probably _ you an anti-capitalist party? views are probably different _ you an anti-capitalist party? views are probably different but - you an anti—capitalist party? r)” -~ are probably different but slightly between different members but i think we are certainly very sceptical of capitalism as an economic system.— sceptical of capitalism as an economic s stem. . ., ., , economic system. ligature motions. it's very democratic _ economic system. ligature motions. it's very democratic party _ economic system. ligature motions. it's very democratic party and - it's very democratic party and making a policy and ec 201 calls for the end of the current dependence on economic growth, you say. you want

to allow and i quote, zero or negative growth. so your pitch to people means you want the economy to get smaller. imilli people means you want the economy to net smaller. ~ , ., , people means you want the economy to net smaller. ~ , . , ., get smaller. will be actually want is for certain _ get smaller. will be actually want is for certain sectors _ get smaller. will be actually want is for certain sectors like - is for certain sectors like renewables and installation, for example, to grow and they need to grow rapidly in order to meet the needs of society. ii grow rapidly in order to meet the needs of society.— grow rapidly in order to meet the needs of society. if you want zero or negative _ needs of society. if you want zero or negative growth, _ needs of society. if you want zero or negative growth, then - needs of society. if you want zero or negative growth, then the - needs of society. if you want zero - or negative growth, then the economy get smaller. it's about, it's not about pursuing de—growth so much as being about pursuing de-growth so much as beinr ., . about pursuing de-growth so much as being agnostic about the particular measure of gdp _ being agnostic about the particular measure of gdp growth _ being agnostic about the particular measure of gdp growth for - being agnostic about the particular l measure of gdp growth for domestic product and gdp is a terrible measure on how an economy is doing in the society is doing. this measure on how an economy is doing in the society is doing.— in the society is doing. this seems to be a problem — in the society is doing. this seems to be a problem that _ in the society is doing. this seems to be a problem that the _ in the society is doing. this seems to be a problem that the green i in the society is doing. this seems i to be a problem that the green party seems to have which you yourself talk about was being seen as middle—class. there is a direct link

between people who can think they can call the economy to get smaller and class as a sort of things that people are relatively comfortable of, very comfortable sitting around but people who are not very comfortable with that would never dream of saying they want the economy to get smaller. you very nearly touched _ economy to get smaller. you very nearly touched on _ economy to get smaller. you very nearly touched on their _ economy to get smaller. you very nearly touched on their why - economy to get smaller. you very nearly touched on their why i - economy to get smaller. you very | nearly touched on their why i think climate justice and economicjustice have to be tackled hand—in—hand because we want to see the distribution, we want to see a wealth tax because that would help tackle injustices in these countries where the poor are getting poorer and a wealth tax for the conference, just 1% on wealth above £3.11 million that would go to all the oldest of us talking about earlier installing

more renewable energy and nationwide home installation programme, that would help those in the lowest incomes. ., ._ would help those in the lowest incomes. ., . , incomes. you did say that the greens are too middle-class, _ incomes. you did say that the greens are too middle-class, didn't - incomes. you did say that the greens are too middle-class, didn't you? i are too middle—class, didn't you? diagnoses the perception and increasingly, and bristol from councillor, i'm one of four cream counsellors and largest ever group of green counsellors in the uk, in fact and are group of counsellors is really diverse. we have quite a few counsellors from working—class backgrounds, very proudly so and we have great diversity in terms of age, sexuality, etc and i think that's really good because it results in better quality decisions a challenge, ifeel it's results in better quality decisions a challenge, i feel it's only getting better and better at including more people in the discussion. you must of thought, why is there not been the growth in green politics. in the voting system

which is very cruel to smaller parties with their votes spread evenly around the country on the other hand, that did not stop you kept from doing well, but he think the green party is not in better. the political system does not help in the first party system, yeah, it's very disproportionate in terms of the number of seats you win for the number of votes an interesting fact, if you know this, the uk is one of two countries that uses this for the general election and the other one is of the research is a very corrupt borderline dictatorship what is it that the party, is a clear, what is it you are thinking but i have to change this if i'm going to get more success? let me

answer your— going to get more success? let me answer your question _ going to get more success? let me answer your question as _ going to get more success? let me answer your question as well, - going to get more success? let me answer your question as well, part | answer your question as well, part of the challenge is being given the opportunity to speak on the media and so, thank you very much for giving us this opportunity but for example, there hasn't been a leader since 2019 and yet, we have more counsellors now then you tipped it at its peak in which point, nigel faraj was being thrown under the bus. fara' was being thrown under the bus. ., . , . bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror. the — bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, the problem? _ bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, the problem? i _ bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, the problem? ithink- bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, the problem? i think we - bus. you made the pitch, look in the mirror, the problem? i think we also have and are — mirror, the problem? i think we also have and are on _ mirror, the problem? i think we also have and are on the _ mirror, the problem? i think we also have and are on the learning - mirror, the problem? i think we also have and are on the learning curve i have and are on the learning curve on how to pull tagamet communicator policies clearly. i think we doing better with that now but, yes. a few years ago, the leaflets that be put through the doors might be a bit too verbose. the through the doors might be a bit too verbose. . , , . , ., verbose. the dream must be that you, erha -s verbose. the dream must be that you, perhaps could — verbose. the dream must be that you, perhaps could emulate _ verbose. the dream must be that you, perhaps could emulate the _ verbose. the dream must be that you, perhaps could emulate the foreign - perhaps could emulate the foreign minister of germany as leader of the

green party that, is that the sort of hope you would have there's a lot of steps to take?— of hope you would have there's a lot of steps to take? absolutely done at the lucas frustr _ of steps to take? absolutely done at the lucas frustr me _ of steps to take? absolutely done at the lucas frustr me his _ of steps to take? absolutely done at the lucas frustr me his example. i the lucas frustr me his example. many in scotland and getting great policies through such as free bus travel for the young people and bringing in event frees an eviction ban and those at risk of eviction because the cost of living presence. as of the kinds of policies that government can bring about and i'm chomping at the bit to do the same in england and wales. it is interesting _ in england and wales. it is interesting that _ in england and wales. it is interesting that she, - in england and wales. it is interesting that she, the foreign minister of germany is a leading campaignerfor more campaigner for more defence spending, defending ukraine. it's interesting that you said that as a quaker, someone who you think is not 100% pacifist, you said you were in favour of the war in ukraine and you

think british arms should be sent to defendant ukrainians. i think british arms should be sent to defendant ukrainians.— defendant ukrainians. i said it was riaht for defendant ukrainians. i said it was right for the _ defendant ukrainians. i said it was right for the uk _ defendant ukrainians. i said it was right for the uk to _ defendant ukrainians. i said it was right for the uk to support - defendant ukrainians. i said it was| right for the uk to support ukraine because of course, what right for the uk to support ukraine because of course,— right for the uk to support ukraine because of course, what is the point ou're because of course, what is the point you're trying to _ because of course, what is the point you're trying to make _ because of course, what is the point you're trying to make for— because of course, what is the point you're trying to make for that - you're trying to make for that distinction. be you're trying to make for that distinction.— you're trying to make for that distinction. �* . ., distinction. be have the right to defend their _ distinction. be have the right to defend their borders _ distinction. be have the right to defend their borders and - distinction. be have the right to defend their borders and russia distinction. be have the right to - defend their borders and russia has breached those and has invaded ukraine and it is read that ukraine should be able to defend itself and that the international community support ukraine and doing so. but, i feel that is quite a difference to being in favour of wars. i want to see the world move towards, rather than mutually assured destruction and threats of violence to solve problems, i want to see a global security architecture may be the un could be the beginning of that where the default is in solving things

through that but through negotiation. it through that but through negotiation.— through that but through negotiation. through that but through neuotiation. , . , , negotiation. it is a wild, i guess, but if we can _ negotiation. it is a wild, i guess, but if we can see _ negotiation. it is a wild, i guess, but if we can see yourself - negotiation. it is a wild, i guess, but if we can see yourself being l negotiation. it is a wild, i guess, i but if we can see yourself being the foreign minister that will require a change in voting system. i disagree. i am standing _ change in voting system. i disagree. i am standing and _ change in voting system. i disagree. i am standing and bristol _ change in voting system. i disagree. i am standing and bristol west, - i am standing and bristol west, which is the constituency that i stood in the last general election in 2019 breaking second and got more than any green is ever gotten other than any green is ever gotten other than caroline lucas in brighton and, we have every chance of getting reelected is the first screen mpm bristol, especially, as is going to say, especially the boundary changes that have just been announced. find that have 'ust been announced. and because i that have just been announced. and because i said _ that have just been announced. and because i said there was a long wait before you become a member of parliament, you might not but you quibble with my suggestion that there was quite a long way before you dream of becoming the foreign secretary in this country. why did

you quibble with that what you think the change may happen quickly stop you will be customer pulling is the moment, it is liquid whenever another conservative government and the complexion of the new government, it is hard to predict at this stage, a lot can change between this stage, a lot can change between this and the next general election but i would be very happy to work with other left—wing and centreleft parties to form a coalition parliament and i would be keen for us to learn lessons of where they have gone into government elsewhere so, in scotland in the scottish green negotiation has really done both the s&p for the michigan really from commitments and reserve the right to publicly differ on areas that they disagree with. and so, it that they disagree with. and so, i is possible that we could have greens in government after the next election. �* , ., greens in government after the next election. �* i. greens in government after the next election. �* ., . ., election. and you look forward to doinu election. and you look forward to doin: it? election. and you look forward to doing it? who — election. and you look forward to doing it? who was _ election. and you look forward to doing it? who was she _ election. and you look forward to doing it? who was she fancy -

election. and you look forward to doing it? who was she fancy if. election. and you look forward to l doing it? who was she fancy if you could have anyjob in government? given my background in the energy sector, i would love to be. see given my background in the energy sector, i would love to be.- sector, i would love to be. see if we can make your— sector, i would love to be. see if we can make your come true. i sector, i would love to be. see if. we can make your come true. given the speed of change to be seen in the speed of change to be seen in the past few years in politics, the past few weeks for goodness' sake, it really isn't as far—fetched as some people will think for her to dream that she might be an mp in government and even the energy minister. she is inspired and others will look to the success of the greens in scotland and, of course, the powerful role played by the greens and the new german government. thank you for watching.

hello. it is unusually warm across the uk at the moment, temperatures six to eight degrees above where we should be seeing them. it is thanks to a southerly stream bringing air our way from a long way south in the atlantic. we have a mild night ahead, clear skies for many would result in a frost normally at this time of year but overnight lows in double figures for the majority. somewhat cooler in the east, more cloud around here, and some mist and fog drifting in off the north sea first thing on sunday. i think a lot of the cloud will burn back through the day but some north sea coasts will struggle. it will get windier towards the west as the date plays out and just after dark, i think we will see some rain into northern ireland in the south—west of england. take a look at the temperatures, they are up to 16 and 17 quite widely, 18, perhaps 19 somewhere in the south—east. to start the new week, becoming a little more unsettled, some rain getting into the west, a little cooler, too.

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