tv The Papers BBC News November 12, 2022 11:30pm-11:46pm GMT
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are kate maltby, a columnist from the i newspaper, and shyama perera a journalist and author. welcome a journalist and author. to you both. welcome a journalist and author. tomorrow's front pages, a journalist and author. starting with. a journalist and author. the sunday times leads on the celebrations in ukraine after russia's retreat from kherson. the independent also focuses on the war in ukraine and reports that the prime minister will "call out russia" at the 620 summit. the telegraph reports on a ten point migration plan from the government to end what it calls "hotel britain." the observer leads on the cost of the previous prime minister's mini budget, quoting the resolution foundation think tank, who put the figure at $30 billion. ——pounds and the mirror has a picture of matt hancock getting gunked
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in the jungle on the tv programme i'm a celebrity get me out of here they have used comments from the mp's local vicar, alongside the headline "hancock hasn't got a prayer. " so let's begin. we're going to start with the sunday times. kate, let's start with you with the sunday times. we were talking already about this story, the sunday times has the picture of people celebrating in kherson after the retreat of the russian army. of course, this is in the end of the war, there's no a lot to be concerned about butjust a moment of joy here. concerned about but “ust a moment of “0 here. , , , ., , concerned about but “ust a moment of “0 here. , , joy here. yes. this story is absolutely _ joy here. yes. this story is absolutely presented - joy here. yes. this story is absolutely presented as i joy here. yes. this story is absolutely presented as a | joy here. yes. this story is - absolutely presented as a joyous moment. we've got those two young women beaming with happiness and that photo in the front. but i think we talked about this early in the
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programme, i think it's very important to point out that when occupied cities are liberated the violence is rarely over. they are just hints of this throughout the piece that the sunday times as written. in the second column you can see they pointed out that pollutants are made, this was considered remarkable, blew up the only road leading across the dnipro river that blew up a major bridge. they appear to have left some of their own soldiers behind. there is a ukrainian soldier who says there are russian soldiers holed up in basins. we wait to see what happens to them later in the piece, to me this is particularly disturbing, there is a vignette of a ukrainian man, the owner of a fleet of trucks pointing out and exposing on a street a woman who accuses of being
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intimate with russian soldiers. we know what happens to women who are accused of being intimate with occupying forces. we saw this happen in europe during the liberation of france. against this bright, bold happy images to young women in this photograph ijust think happy images to young women in this photograph i just think we should think about the cycles of violence that are likely to continue. and as a nation here in the uk, a nation who is an ally to the ukraine we need to be loud and clear about what we can do to limit that violence moving forward.— we can do to limit that violence moving forward. we can do to limit that violence movin: forward. ~ , ., . , moving forward. when you read these re orts of moving forward. when you read these reports of what _ moving forward. when you read these reports of what has _ moving forward. when you read these reports of what has been _ moving forward. when you read these reports of what has been happening i reports of what has been happening on the ground, what is interesting how correspondence they are and how people of witness what they saying, they are taking testimonies immediately in order to assure that workarounds are documented and immediately right now even though the war is ongoing. but right now it is such a brutally grim situation
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and the brutality of this war as kate was mentioning, some of those points, it's really difficult to comprehend.— points, it's really difficult to comrehend. ~ , . �* points, it's really difficult to comrehend. ~ , ~ �* ., comprehend. absolutely. we've got some russian _ comprehend. absolutely. we've got some russian troops _ comprehend. absolutely. we've got some russian troops who _ comprehend. absolutely. we've got some russian troops who have - comprehend. absolutely. we've got| some russian troops who have been left behind, as kate said. they have to be _ left behind, as kate said. they have to be watched closely to see how they are — to be watched closely to see how they are dealt with. the ukrainians are quoted — they are dealt with. the ukrainians are quoted as saying our forces are working _ are quoted as saying our forces are working to — are quoted as saying our forces are working to neutralise them. they will be _ working to neutralise them. they will be looking at their own collaborators. what's so interesting, there is a glimpse of what _ interesting, there is a glimpse of what it— interesting, there is a glimpse of what it was like for the russian army. — what it was like for the russian army. it — what it was like for the russian army, it says the chechens were fighting, — army, it says the chechens were fighting, the mercenaries who work within— fighting, the mercenaries who work within his _ fighting, the mercenaries who work within his private army and the russians— within his private army and the russians were fighting the siberian troops _ russians were fighting the siberian troops so— russians were fighting the siberian troops. so within the russian troops there _ troops. so within the russian troops there was— troops. so within the russian troops there was much discord. it's quite interesting — there was much discord. it's quite interesting to see what's to happen. it's interesting to see what's to happen. it's good _ interesting to see what's to happen. it's good to— interesting to see what's to happen. it's good to have a little bit of brightness the day before remembering sunday but this is continuing. the bridges been blown
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out. continuing. the bridges been blown out the _ continuing. the bridges been blown out. the are on the other side of the dnipro— out. the are on the other side of the dnipro river. we have no idea how this _ the dnipro river. we have no idea how this is — the dnipro river. we have no idea how this is going to progress over the coming — how this is going to progress over the coming weeks. but it's interesting and hopeful at the single — interesting and hopeful at the single moment in time. | interesting and hopeful at the single moment in time. i have to sa , single moment in time. i have to say. what _ single moment in time. i have to say. what you — single moment in time. i have to say. what you say. _ single moment in time. i have to say, what you say, absolutely, . single moment in time. i have to - say, what you say, absolutely, we're hearing your cat in the background and we see it now on the table. it looks like a leopard. it's a stunning creature. i know that when the war was reported i was reporting from the border in the amount of people fleeing ukraine with their children of course but also their pets as well, that grim reality of people forced to leave their homes. and what war does to you. and we're on the eve of remembering sunday and there is a lot to take in here. yes. i think there is a lot to take in here. yes. i think when _ there is a lot to take in here. yes. i think when we _ there is a lot to take in here. yes. i think when we look _ there is a lot to take in here. yes. i think when we look at _ there is a lot to take in here. ya; i think when we look at kherson, the city has endured hellish conditions, long periods without power, no
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wonder i completely understand why people are celebrating because we have heard also atrocious stories about what russian soldiers are alleged to have done to ukrainians civilians. i think as you talked about documentation, it will be very important that testimony is taken both of the experience right now and of what has been happening while the russians have been in control of the city. and that we're at least able to bring these stories to light, evenif to bring these stories to light, even if there is little else that can be done. aha, even if there is little else that can be done-— can be done. a very difficult situation. we _ can be done. a very difficult situation. we turn _ can be done. a very difficult situation. we turn to - can be done. a very difficult situation. we turn to the . can be done. a very difficultj situation. we turn to the uk can be done. a very difficult - situation. we turn to the uk and the observer has a story, the revelation that the independent resolution foundation has calculated £30 billion cost of list trusses many
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budget. talk us through the numbers. we knew it was going to be a shocker~ _ we knew it was going to be a shocker. it's still shocking when you see — shocker. it's still shocking when you see it — shocker. it's still shocking when you see it written here on the front page _ you see it written here on the front page of— you see it written here on the front page of the — you see it written here on the front page of the observer that it is estimated that list trusses many budget, — estimated that list trusses many budget, i— estimated that list trusses many budget, i mean she was only in office _ budget, i mean she was only in office for— budget, i mean she was only in office for seven weeks has caused the country a staggering £30 billion, — the country a staggering £30 billion, which is half the current fiscal— billion, which is half the current fiscal hole _ billion, which is half the current fiscal hole. in that seven weeks they— fiscal hole. in that seven weeks they figure was doubled. and the squeeze — they figure was doubled. and the squeeze that is going to be put on all of— squeeze that is going to be put on all of us _ squeeze that is going to be put on all of us but particularly those services — all of us but particularly those services that we have so wanted to protect _ services that we have so wanted to protect like — services that we have so wanted to protect like education and hospitals. it is really difficult to work _ hospitals. it is really difficult to work out — hospitals. it is really difficult to work out how we're going to manage that. work out how we're going to manage that the _ work out how we're going to manage that. the piece goes through what is expected _ that. the piece goes through what is expected on the budget and the only
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tax rises that are actually mentioned is the possible lowering of the _ mentioned is the possible lowering of the threshold for the higher tax at 45p _ of the threshold for the higher tax at 45p in — of the threshold for the higher tax at 45p in the pound. that i think will get — at 45p in the pound. that i think will get in — at 45p in the pound. that i think will get in an extra 500 quid off people — will get in an extra 500 quid off people who are hurting hundred and £25000 _ people who are hurting hundred and £25000 a _ people who are hurting hundred and £25,000 a year or more, that will be an extra _ £25,000 a year or more, that will be an extra for— £25,000 a year or more, that will be an extra for those every year. of course _ an extra for those every year. of course by— an extra for those every year. of course by not raising the threshold all the _ course by not raising the threshold all the way— course by not raising the threshold all the way down at a time when inflation — all the way down at a time when inflation is — all the way down at a time when inflation is going up to 10% they are effectively raising taxes. absolutely. it comes as some of the bbc has learned this autumn statement on thursday we're expecting spending cuts of £35 billion. where is that can hit? yeah. sorry, that's not the most coherent response anyone's ever given. when we look at some of the massive spending cuts and the
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economic hardship that is coming peoples way, sometimes over miles really are the only way to respond. i would say that the resolution foundation, it's described as an independent foundation, it's a very important, credible, serious foundation but it is associated with a centre left. it's obviously going to be critical. by definition it's going to take a critical lens to the liz truss ideology for whatever ideology certainly was. it's not the office for budget responsibility or in independent arms like government body in that sense. it's... i think from my perspective, i can for the arts world, we have already been trying to process the art world of
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really unprecedented thoughts to some very, very insignificant public funded arts bodies in the last week or so. and just having seen what that has already done 21 sector, i find it hard to imagine what public spending cuts across the rest of the country sectors are going to look like. but it's going to be tough. it's going to be child. when we talk about it being tough, where go back to the sunday times, talking about energy bills. the headline is itself to soar for millions.— to soar for millions. absolutely. there is nothing _ to soar for millions. absolutely. there is nothing that _ to soar for millions. absolutely. there is nothing that we - to soar for millions. absolutely. there is nothing that we don't l to soar for millions. absolutely. - there is nothing that we don't know. it's there is nothing that we don't know. it'sjust_ there is nothing that we don't know. it's just that — there is nothing that we don't know. it'sjust that every there is nothing that we don't know. it's just that every time you read it it feels — it's just that every time you read it it feels like you're being told it it feels like you're being told it again — it it feels like you're being told it again. yes, energy bills are going — it again. yes, energy bills are going to — it again. yes, energy bills are going to soar for millions. the cap that is— going to soar for millions. the cap that is running up and down here is one of— that is running up and down here is one of many— that is running up and down here is one of many that has been put up for rehoming _ one of many that has been put up for rehoming a — one of many that has been put up for rehoming. a lot of them because they
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can no— rehoming. a lot of them because they can no longer afford to look after them _ can no longer afford to look after them at — can no longer afford to look after them at the moment. it's funny, we've _ them at the moment. it's funny, we've just — them at the moment. it's funny, we've just been looking at pat's. people _ we've just been looking at pat's. people are — we've just been looking at pat's. people are going to be making those sort of— people are going to be making those sort of decisions about something has to— sort of decisions about something has to go — sort of decisions about something has to go. even here, look, here i am, _ has to go. even here, look, here i am. ihu— has to go. even here, look, here i am, i'm sitting on a hot water bottle — am, i'm sitting on a hot water bottle because that will save me having _ bottle because that will save me having the heating on. it is a concern to— having the heating on. it is a concern to absolutely everybody. and what is _ concern to absolutely everybody. and what is being said here is that jeremy— what is being said here is that jeremy hunt in his first big newspaper interview has said this is going _ newspaper interview has said this is going to _ newspaper interview has said this is going to he — newspaper interview has said this is going to be a big moment of choice for the _ going to be a big moment of choice for the country. he says he's going to put— for the country. he says he's going to put people ahead of ideology. well, _ to put people ahead of ideology. well, let's wait and see. you need to get the cat on your lap as well. again, when we look at the sunday telegraph, ourfinal paper, it's looking at... we've been talking about the potential nurses strike. just talk us through at the house
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secretary steve barkley, how he has described it. he secretary steve barkley, how he has described it— described it. he has described this as unreasonable _ described it. he has described this as unreasonable strike _ described it. he has described this as unreasonable strike action. - as unreasonable strike action. demanding... to give a bit more context, this is industrial action, which is threatened by the royal couege which is threatened by the royal college of nursing. although, a second union is also consulting on a further 10,000 nurses on strike action, it says here. and held secretaries position is that the couege secretaries position is that the college demanding ace 7—.16% rise and simplyjust because it is neither reasonable nor affordable. and he pointed out, protects understandably that most under the net public sector bodies are getting anything like that. i would say however, i would not advise any politician to pick a fight with nurses. the country is fed up with
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strikes across a range of other sectors, i think there is a genuine frustration at the level of strikes we're seeing. for example on rail networks, there is also a lot of sense the country isn't really working and not leads to frustration with things like protest, blockades for that we're facing a time of the major disruption in a lot of different ways. but picking a fight with nurses, that might be the ones strike that confronting is never really get to work, is it? find strike that confronting is never really get to work, is it? and the royal college — really get to work, is it? and the royal college of _ really get to work, is it? and the royal college of nursing, - really get to work, is it? and the | royal college of nursing, it's not held a strike in 100 years, 106 year history. held a strike in 100 years, 106 year histo . ~ , ,., , held a strike in 100 years, 106 year histo , �*, held a strike in 100 years, 106 year histo , history. absolutely. it's always been quite _ history. absolutely. it's always been quite conservative - history. absolutely. it's always been quite conservative in - history. absolutely. it's always been quite conservative in the | history. absolutely. it's always - been quite conservative in the way that it's _ been quite conservative in the way that it's managed its industrial disputes _ that it's managed its industrial disputes. this is all —— it's a
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snowball— disputes. this is all —— it's a snowball of— disputes. this is all —— it's a snowball of discontent across the country — snowball of discontent across the country. and it's very difficult, i can't _ country. and it's very difficult, i can't understand how the government can't understand how the government can stave _ can't understand how the government can stave it— can't understand how the government can stave it off for much longer when _ can stave it off for much longer when they— can stave it off for much longer when they themselves have made it so much worse _ when they themselves have made it so much worse and are asking these people _ much worse and are asking these people on— much worse and are asking these people on low enough wages to take in even _ people on low enough wages to take in even bigger hit than they could've _ in even bigger hit than they could've imagined. it's a really difficult — could've imagined. it's a really difficult one. it's one of those that— difficult one. it's one of those that you — difficult one. it's one of those that you just sort of watch in horror~ — that you just sort of watch in horror~ it's_ that you just sort of watch in horror. it's a car crash waiting to happen — horror. it's a car crash waiting to happen. and _ horror. it's a car crash waiting to happen. and one doesn't know who's going _ happen. and one doesn't know who's going to survive it. gh happen. and one doesn't know who's going to survive it.— going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way — going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way to — going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way to end _ going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way to end the _ going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way to end the paper. - going to survive it. oh my goodness, what a way to end the paper. thankl what a way to end the paper. thank you very much, shamus caq, thank you very much. thank you very much for joining me on saturday evening. enjoy the rest of what's left of your saturday night. a big thank you to you as well. you can also watch this on the bbc iplayer as well. goodbye.
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