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with you, us. i'm going to start with you, john stapleton. it is a bit childish, but it is nice when you have a broadcast interview making headlines in the newspapers at the start. "we will all pay more tax," pretty clear from jeremy hunt. yes. pretty clear from jeremy hunt. yes, talk to laura — pretty clear from jeremy hunt. yes, talk to laura kuenssberg _ pretty clear from jeremy hunt. ye: talk to laura kuenssberg on the bbc this morning. not exactly surprising news for any of us. let's face it. we are expecting 25 million of tax races and 35 billion of cuts, we will come to the cuts later. he did not go into any detail with laura today, but the speculation is 45p on income tax. that will affect people on earnings of 100 rev thousand. the tax there shall generally be raised so thousands of people are going to a higher tax band as their wages go up. also there is the suggestion
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that on the most vulnerable get help with their energy bills after next april. the risk he runs is offending the right wing of his party, who are against tax races, and as he said himself this morning, it is something that goes against the grain for them personally because he got into politics to lower taxes, not raise them, but given the situation we're in he has little alternative. much of this is down to the failure under the last government, liz truss and kwasi kwarteng, whose budget, they say, is costing us 30 billion of that money we have to raise now, down to their ill—fated budget which cause the time to take against the dollar, because the bank of england to come in with aid to save all our pensions, and according to the governor of the bank of england, britain was in a situation where we arejust britain was in a situation where we are just hours away from total financial meltdown. all of that is part due to the price we are going to pay. we'll find out on thursday. yes, cost us 30 billion, is how the
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metro puts it. john crowley, if we had not been following this for the goodness knows how many days and weeks, to read "we will all pay more tax" would soundly pretty good bad news, buds i suppose part of that message is to say, we are notjust hitting one sector of society, there shall pay as well —— sound like pretty bad news, but. i shall pay as well -- sound like pretty bad news, but.- shall pay as well -- sound like pretty bad news, but. i think he is t in: to pretty bad news, but. i think he is trying to say. _ pretty bad news, but. i think he is trying to say. we _ pretty bad news, but. i think he is trying to say, we are _ pretty bad news, but. i think he is trying to say, we are all _ pretty bad news, but. i think he is trying to say, we are all in - trying to say, we are all in this togethen _ trying to say, we are all in this together. he is not trying to offer anything — together. he is not trying to offer anything sunny like a former prime minister_ anything sunny like a former prime minister promised. he said they're going _ minister promised. he said they're going to _ minister promised. he said they're going to be some horrible decisions on tax _ going to be some horrible decisions on tax and — going to be some horrible decisions on tax and spending, and asjohn has been _ on tax and spending, and asjohn has been saying. — on tax and spending, and asjohn has been saying, the reason why nation is in such_ been saying, the reason why nation is in such a — been saying, the reason why nation is in such a state is because of his predecessor— is in such a state is because of his predecessor kwasi kwarteng and his own mini _ predecessor kwasi kwarteng and his own mini budget in september. despite — own mini budget in september. despite us being told that we are going _ despite us being told that we are going to — despite us being told that we are going to pay more taxes, does feel that services are going to get even worse _ that services are going to get even worse or— that services are going to get even worse or getting worse than even betten _ worse or getting worse than even better. recent figures that have
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'ust better. recent figures that have just come — better. recent figures that have just come out saying that 20,000 people _ just come out saying that 20,000 people a — just come out saying that 20,000 people a day are waiting for at least — people a day are waiting for at least four_ people a day are waiting for at least four hours in a&e, 7 million people _ least four hours in a&e, 7 million peoriie on— least four hours in a&e, 7 million people on the waiting was trying to -et people on the waiting was trying to get treatments on the nhs, nurses are set— get treatments on the nhs, nurses are set to _ get treatments on the nhs, nurses are set to go on strike because the government is refusing to meet their pay demands, and it feels a little _ meet their pay demands, and it feels a little bit _ meet their pay demands, and it feels a little bit like austerity .0 once again _ a little bit like austerity .0 once again like _ a little bit like austerity .0 once again. like whatjohn was a little bit like austerity .0 once again. like what john was saying, a little bit like austerity .0 once again. like whatjohn was saying, i would _ again. like whatjohn was saying, i would echo— again. like whatjohn was saying, i would echo what he is saying, conservative mps and those on the i’i l ht conservative mps and those on the right of the party are going to be saying _ right of the party are going to be saving or— right of the party are going to be saying or are saying, what is the point _ saying or are saying, what is the point of— saying or are saying, what is the point of this administration beyond tax increases and lower spending? john stapleton, there is... talking him of the energy support going to run out at the end of april, but it would seem, just reading the rooms, as if pensions and benefits are still going to rise in line with inflation, so if that is the case, it is also pretty clear that where
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the cuts come, they are going to come even wider and deeper, aren't they? come even wider and deeper, aren't the ? ., , , ., come even wider and deeper, aren't the? , come even wider and deeper, aren't the? they? the only bit of oldies like m self! they? the only bit of oldies like myself! -- _ they? the only bit of oldies like myself! -- bit— they? the only bit of oldies like myself! -- bit of— they? the only bit of oldies like myself! -- bit of good - they? the only bit of oldies like myself! -- bit of good news! i myself! —— bit of good news! laughter that is the only bit of good news, and many people would argue, why should well off people likejohn sable get a rise in his pension? it is a good point... it is on the face of it, a bit silly, because we are very fortunate to be in a position where we don't need that money, but where we don't need that money, but where the cuts come in is really the thing that interests me. a suggestion anyway that all departments, all government departments, all government departments, are going to have their budgets frozen. if that applies to the national health service with inflation at 10%, that amounts to a 10% cut in that budget, and we have 7.1 million people in the waiting lists. the nhs and lescott was short of 40,000 nurses, and in pretty dire
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straits. is it going to come out of the education go? education is something too. i was listing to the radio this morning, a couple of teachers saying they have to float the cost of pencils and paper at their school for their kids. having to take food into school for kids, either through property or in some cases neglect, do not have a proper breakfast. that is the state of the nation at the moment, and the thing that irritates a lot of people is the government says... who is the blame for that? who has been in power for the last five years? they have. , ., ., have. yes, the government. you brou . ht have. yes, the government. you brought me _ have. yes, the government. you brought me very _ have. yes, the government. you brought me very nicely _ have. yes, the government. you brought me very nicely around, i brought me very nicely around, mentioning the nhs, to the guardian, john. john crowley, a strong topline. needs a bit of explaining. it does, and actually the one in three _ it does, and actually the one in three topline only applies to one in two trust. — three topline only applies to one in two trust, but it does illustrate
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the huge — two trust, but it does illustrate the huge problems that successive governments, notjust the present conservative administration, he failed _ conservative administration, he failed to— conservative administration, he failed to do, and that is to provide decent _ failed to do, and that is to provide decent social care. the numbers say that ”p— decent social care. the numbers say that up to _ decent social care. the numbers say that up to one entry hospital beds in england are occupied by patients who are _ in england are occupied by patients who are either well enough to be discharged, but the issue is around social— discharged, but the issue is around social care — discharged, but the issue is around social care stub there are 13,200 beds _ social care stub there are 13,200 beds a _ social care stub there are 13,200 beds a day, _ social care stub there are 13,200 beds a day, corny to the guardian analysis, — beds a day, corny to the guardian analysis, where doctors say they are fit to medically go home or go into a care _ fit to medically go home or go into a care home and it is backed by further— a care home and it is backed by further figures further down below from the _ further figures further down below from the association of directors of adult _ from the association of directors of adult social services —— according to the _ adult social services —— according to the guardian analysis. rishi sunak— to the guardian analysis. rishi sunak in— to the guardian analysis. rishi sunak in the autumn statement is considering delaying changes to social— considering delaying changes to social care, which was announced actually _ social care, which was announced actually by — social care, which was announced actually by him and the then prime minister— actually by him and the then prime minister borisjohnson. that actually by him and the then prime minister boris johnson. that would put minister boris johnson. that would but an— minister boris johnson. that would put an £86,000 cap on the amount people — put an £86,000 cap on the amount people have to pay that was due to
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come _ people have to pay that was due to come in _ people have to pay that was due to come in october 2023. people have to pay that was due to come in 0ctober2023. in people have to pay that was due to come in october 2023. in the guardian— come in october 2023. in the guardian states that the government can say— guardian states that the government can say from this would be 1 billion in the _ can say from this would be 1 billion in the first— can say from this would be 1 billion in the first year but which would rise to _ in the first year but which would rise to about 3 billion if scrapped altogether. of course, one of the tax cuts — altogether. of course, one of the tax cuts that rishi sunak and his chancellor— tax cuts that rishi sunak and his chancellorjeremy hunt are keeping to that _ chancellorjeremy hunt are keeping to that was put in by kwasi kwarteng is the _ to that was put in by kwasi kwarteng is the l~25% — to that was put in by kwasi kwarteng is the 1.25% percentage point rise in social— is the 1.25% percentage point rise in social care levy. that was designed _ in social care levy. that was designed by borisjohnson in social care levy. that was designed by boris johnson and in social care levy. that was designed by borisjohnson and rishi sunak— designed by borisjohnson and rishi sunak to _ designed by borisjohnson and rishi sunak to actually help with social care spending, something like that tax cut— care spending, something like that tax cut is— care spending, something like that tax cut is gone. there does not seem to be _ tax cut is gone. there does not seem to be any— tax cut is gone. there does not seem to be any money down the back of the self to _ to be any money down the back of the self to help— to be any money down the back of the self to help people, and meanwhile social— self to help people, and meanwhile social care — self to help people, and meanwhile social care remains in a morass. john— social care remains in a morass. john stapleton, it is very difficult to find a positive on this story, isn't it? as a pointed out on the guardian, winter is coming, flu,
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covid, record vacancies of staff and nurses in the nhs. it goes on. it does go on. we are short of 40,000 cavers in the community as well. presumably because they're not paid enough. a lot of our viewers will say, yes, this all sounds pretty terrible, 7.1 million people waiting for care within the nhs, ambulances, because of those people in beds, they have people queuing in influences outside hospital for hours, occasionally dying in as a blintzes because they cannot enjoy spittle faster and we are not anywhere near winter, as you rightly point out. we have a flu epidemic possibly, covid, and this chronic shortage of staff to deal with the problem. it does not sound good at all. g , ., , ., problem. it does not sound good at all. , ., ., ., all. just as a last line on that, director of — all. just as a last line on that, director of policy _ all. just as a last line on that, director of policy and - all. just as a last line on that, director of policy and treasury all. just as a last line on that, i director of policy and treasury at nhs providers throwing further into
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the mix keeping elderly out of hospitals is so important. your muscular ability can deteriorate in the hospital bed and that is quite rapid for older people, so a real fear that you don't want to get any more in hospital if you can help it in any case. i am going to move us on because we have just got a few minutes left. i want to touch on the story on the metro among others, pictures relating to of course king charles laying the wreath and alongside a picture of them as was princess elizabeth 77 years prior to that, laying the wreath for a nation's gratitude, john crowley. yes, a very sombre day, obviously, for people — yes, a very sombre day, obviously, for people around the country, but i think— for people around the country, but i think everyone felt keenly in a way for king _ think everyone felt keenly in a way for king charles. the close—ups of the cameras can be quite brutal and there _ the cameras can be quite brutal and there was— the cameras can be quite brutal and there was one particular shot which
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zoomed _ there was one particular shot which zoomed in — there was one particular shot which zoomed in on the king as he was laying _ zoomed in on the king as he was laying his— zoomed in on the king as he was laying his wreath, and you could see, _ laying his wreath, and you could see, look. — laying his wreath, and you could see, look, there were tears in his eyes _ see, look, there were tears in his eyes and — see, look, there were tears in his eyes and he — see, look, there were tears in his eyes and he was thinking of his mother— eyes and he was thinking of his mother and his father. a tough 18 months _ mother and his father. a tough 18 months he — mother and his father. a tough 18 months he has had, that he has lost them, and _ months he has had, that he has lost them, and obviously the late queen would _ them, and obviously the late queen would have — them, and obviously the late queen would have led this per session, this ceremony, now it is taken upon him _ this ceremony, now it is taken upon him what— this ceremony, now it is taken upon him. what was very much a slimmed—down kind of monarchy as well _ slimmed—down kind of monarchy as well there — slimmed—down kind of monarchy as well. there seems to be more expert ministers, _ well. there seems to be more expert ministers, actually, than members of the royal— ministers, actually, than members of the royal family who were gathering delay reads —— gathering till they read _ delay reads —— gathering till they read i— delay reads -- gathering till they read. ~' , , ., , ., delay reads -- gathering till they read. ~' ,, .,, ., .,, read. i think liz truss has that 'ob for life as a — read. i think liz truss has that 'ob for life as a formerd read. i think liz truss has that 'ob for life as a former prime i read. i think liz truss has that jobl for life as a former prime minister. john stapleton, it is one of those moments where it is a time to remember of course all those who have sacrificed so much for this country, you cannot really get away from the fact that for king charles, it must�*ve been a emotional moment. it is certainly
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one that he knows he has been standing there doing his duty and innocence also knowing that one day this will be the focus on him, on this will be the focus on him, on this day. this will be the focus on him, on this da . . ., ., ., , ., this day. yeah, and on a number of rime this day. yeah, and on a number of prime ministers, _ this day. yeah, and on a number of prime ministers, that _ this day. yeah, and on a number of prime ministers, that is _ this day. yeah, and on a number of prime ministers, that is turnover i prime ministers, that is turnover recently! yes, a very important moment for king charles, especially remembering the many years... i was not quite around for the day his mother first lady wreath, but i was all—around not long after that and he must have stood there year after year thinking, he must have stood there year after yearthinking, one he must have stood there year after year thinking, one day the stubble fall to me, and now it has come under difficult circumstances. —— thisjob will fall to me. the recent death of his mother. the one thing i did enjoy about this morning with the reference to in the future of all the falklands veterans. it is the 40th anniversary of the falklands war. i covered the falklands war. i covered the falklands war. i covered the falklands war from argentina, for the bbc... sacrificed
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their lives. good to see those veterans there recognised, because often, quite often, the falklands war seems to be forgotten. i remember suggesting to a colleague of mine that we should do some about the war, and they said, who remembers that? glad they did so properly today. taste remembers that? glad they did so properly today-— properly today. we have a day to remember _ properly today. we have a day to remember all _ properly today. we have a day to remember all of _ properly today. we have a day to remember all of those. - properly today. we have a day to remember all of those. you i remember all of those. you don't look that old, john! laughter let's turn to a moment of sporting triumph, one of the few unprecedented some actually, england winning the t20 world cup final, beating pakistan. ben stokes, john curley, hogging the headlines, but this is quite a team now. it is. this is quite a team now. it is, absolutely. ben _ this is quite a team now. it is, absolutely. ben stokes - this is quite a team now. it is, l absolutely. ben stokes delivers again _ absolutely. ben stokes delivers again on— absolutely. ben stokes delivers again on the big stage. winning not single—handedly. there was some really— single—handedly. there was some really strong good bowling contributions as well, but he took
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upon _ contributions as well, but he took upon himself to score a very measured _ upon himself to score a very measured 52. it was his first ever 50 he _ measured 52. it was his first ever 50 he had — measured 52. it was his first ever 50 he had scored actually in 2020 and he _ 50 he had scored actually in 2020 and he did — 50 he had scored actually in 2020 and he did it in such a calm, and he knew— and he did it in such a calm, and he knew whento— and he did it in such a calm, and he knew when to go forward. it is just great _ knew when to go forward. it is just great again— knew when to go forward. it is just great again for england. we are on a high for— great again for england. we are on a high for subt ben stokes was there at the _ high for subt ben stokes was there at the death in 2019 at lords, when he won— at the death in 2019 at lords, when he won it. — at the death in 2019 at lords, when he won it, and millions of fans across— he won it, and millions of fans across the _ he won it, and millions of fans across the uk, including in this household, me and my two boys, some people _ household, me and my two boys, some people had _ household, me and my two boys, some people had a _ household, me and my two boys, some people had a light in, but myself and my— people had a light in, but myself and my two boys got up to watch it at 8am _ and my two boys got up to watch it at 8am and — and my two boys got up to watch it at 8am and it was just great for young _ at 8am and it was just great for young people. i'm a massive cricket fan and _ young people. i'm a massive cricket fan and as— young people. i'm a massive cricket fan and as an — young people. i'm a massive cricket fan and as an england fan, you have been— fan and as an england fan, you have been starved of success for the decades, — been starved of success for the decades, sojust to been starved of success for the decades, so just to win, been starved of success for the decades, sojust to win, to be winners, _ decades, sojust to win, to be winners, to— decades, sojust to win, to be winners, to be holders of the 50 over— winners, to be holders of the 50 over world — winners, to be holders of the 50 over world cup —— and — — and twe nty20 —— and twenty20 world cup is amazing _ -- and twenty20 world cup is amazinu. . , , -- and twenty20 world cup is amazing-— -- and twenty20 world cup is amazin., . , , ., . ., amazing. the cup runs over. john stapleton. _ amazing. the cup runs over. john stapleton. you — amazing. the cup runs over. john
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stapleton, you are _ amazing. the cup runs over. john stapleton, you are a _ amazing. the cup runs over. john stapleton, you are a big - amazing. the cup runs over. john i stapleton, you are a big manchester city fan, so you will be delighted to talk but the cricket for this weekend at least! did you watch it was —— watch it? -- watch it? i did not watch it! i was getting _ -- watch it? i did not watch it! i was getting over _ -- watch it? i did not watch it! i was getting over the _ -- watch it? i did not watch it! i was getting over the defeat i -- watch it? i did not watch it! i was getting over the defeat in l was getting over the defeat in manchester!— manchester! laughter one of the _ manchester! laughter one of the papers, i manchester! laughter one of the papers, the | manchester! laughter - one of the papers, the cricketers and ben stokes are hoping there excess will rub off on harry kane and the boys in the road company couple of weeks' time, they will share the same joy. but yes, congratulations to the team, because don't forget, they had a pretty tricky start. the loss to ireland. they recovered and showed resilience andindeed they recovered and showed resilience and indeed skill to win by five wickets with an over to spare. well done and great to know that they are world champions twice, fantastic. exactly, and the irish can bask in the fact that they beat them. john and john, thank you very much indeed. join you again in a little while. that is it for the papers for this hour, but we will be back again
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