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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster john stapleton and the business journalist, john crowley. thank you both forjoining us. tomorrow's front pages. starting with. the telegraph leads on the 620 summit and reports that the prime minister has labelled russia a "rogue state" after failing to attend the gathering of world leaders. the guardian reports that up to a third of hospital beds in parts of england are occupied by patients well enough to be discharged.
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the daily mail also focusses on the nhs — they report that a top a&e doctor believes "hospitals harm the elderly." similarly, the mirror's front page is dedicated to the nhs — they report that the unite union believe chancellor's budget is the "last chance to save" the service. the chancellor's budget comes up on a few of the front pages with the daily express quoting jeremy hunt as saying tax rises are necessary to get through "very choppy waters". the metro leads on a similar warning from the chancellor — saying "we'll all pay more tax" when he announces the budget on thursday. the is front page is also about the autumn statement and how there'll be "tax rises for all" but only the poorest will be supported with their energy bills. and the times focusses on the number of people crossing the channel reaching more than 40,000 — they say britain and france will announce a multi million pound security pact tomorrow. so let's begin...
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thank you both forjoining me. john crowley, i'll start with you if i can. the ft talking about the scale of the debt rise. they are quoting 70 billion debt rise now, although the amount of spending cuts and tax rises might still remain around the 55 billion mark.— 55 billion mark. yes, 'ust looking throu~h 55 billion mark. yes, 'ust looking through the t 55 billion mark. yes, 'ust looking through the papers _ 55 billion mark. yes, just looking through the papers tonight - 55 billion mark. yes, just looking through the papers tonight you i 55 billion mark. yes, just looking - through the papers tonight you might feel that the government is being assailed from all sides and it's a really big week for rishi sunak, the prime minister who is in indonesia for the 620 summit of course on thursday the chancellor of the exchequerjeremy hunt will be giving his autumn statement. in this story they are saying that by 2025 to 26 barring could come close to £100 billion. and that was against a
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forecast of £30 billion, which only came this year in march. i think thatis came this year in march. i think that is why mr hunt was on the broadcast today saying that everyone will have to pay more tax and there is going to be some horrible decisions on tax and spending. and roughly about half of that £70 billion increase is due to expected because of actually servicing our debt. this is of course because his predecessor quasi—quad cane in his own mini budget in september severely damage that uk standing with the market. —— kwasi kwarteng. 6enerally when you get this gloomy outlook you always hear about the chancellor pulling a rabbit out of the bag. but mr hunt said today that the bag. but mr hunt said today that the autumn statement would be a rabbit free zone. many tory mps are actually questioning what is the point of this administration beyond
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just tax increases and cutting and spending. just tax increases and cutting and s-hendin. , ., just tax increases and cutting and s-hendin. g ., ,, .,, ., just tax increases and cutting and sendin. ,, ., , just tax increases and cutting and s..endin_, ,, ., n, spending. john stapleton, it is a massive psalm. _ spending. john stapleton, it is a massive psalm. you _ spending. john stapleton, it is a massive psalm. you can -- - spending. john stapleton, it is a - massive psalm. you can -- massive massive psalm. you can —— massive psalm. you can only look to the previous prime minister which is effectively the same government and all the papers making that point as to why this debt is so high. very difficult one forjeremy hunt to get away from, even is he is hands out say look, this is going to hurt. fix, say look, this is going to hurt. a rabbit free zone is a reverse compared to the last budget. that of course _ compared to the last budget. that of course take — compared to the last budget. that of course take the pound against the dollan _ course take the pound against the dollar. and lead to a great crisis in the _ dollar. and lead to a great crisis in the pension system, that bailed out by— in the pension system, that bailed out by the — in the pension system, that bailed out by the bank of england for the june of— out by the bank of england for the june of £60 billion and the market completely spooked by the unfunded tax cuts _ completely spooked by the unfunded tax cuts. liz truss and mr kwasi kwarteng — tax cuts. liz truss and mr kwasi kwarteng and a house. and now were having _ kwarteng and a house. and now were having to _ kwarteng and a house. and now were having to make good of all that,
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good _ having to make good of all that, good cost — having to make good of all that, good cost is £30 billion according to the _ good cost is £30 billion according to the metro this mornings paper. £30 billion at in addition to all the debt, _ £30 billion at in addition to all the debt, service and cost thatjohn has the debt, service and cost thatjohn hasjust_ the debt, service and cost thatjohn hasjust outlined. it's the debt, service and cost thatjohn has just outlined. it's a the debt, service and cost thatjohn hasjust outlined. it's a gloomy prospect— hasjust outlined. it's a gloomy prospect to put it mildly. who knows where _ prospect to put it mildly. who knows where we _ prospect to put it mildly. who knows where we go from here? where the cuts going — where we go from here? where the cuts going to come from, 35,000, don't _ cuts going to come from, 35,000, don't know — cuts going to come from, 35,000, don't know. it cuts going to come from, 35,000, don't know— don't know. it is, john. ifi can add on. _ don't know. it is, john. ifi can add on. it's — don't know. it is, john. ifi can add on, it's even _ don't know. it is, john. ifi can add on, it's even more - don't know. it is, john. ifi can add on, it's even more scary i don't know. it is, john. ifi can i add on, it's even more scary start departments when the message seems to be coming out that in terms of pension and benefits they are going to stay. pension and benefits they are going to sta . . �* , pension and benefits they are going tosta. .,, pension and benefits they are going tosta. ., �*, ., , ., to stay. that's the only light on the horizon _ to stay. that's the only light on the horizon that _ to stay. that's the only light on the horizon that people - to stay. that's the only light on the horizon that people of- to stay. that's the only light on the horizon that people of my l the horizon that people of my generations certainly, indications that are — generations certainly, indications that are triple lock will remain, our pensions still will be linked to inflation — our pensions still will be linked to inflation. what becomes the nhs, what becomes of schools and educations given the struggles they have it _ educations given the struggles they have it at _ educations given the struggles they have it at the moment? nhs saying millions of— have it at the moment? nhs saying millions of people on the waiting list, millions of people on the waiting list. some — millions of people on the waiting list, some 4000 nurses short,
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overcrowding, 13,000 beds being occupied — overcrowding, 13,000 beds being occupied by people who can go out simply— occupied by people who can go out simply because it is no other place for them _ simply because it is no other place for them to— simply because it is no other place for them to go. all of that before we get _ for them to go. all of that before we get to— for them to go. all of that before we get to winter, could have covid problems — we get to winter, could have covid problems and massive crowding and a shortage _ problems and massive crowding and a shortage of— problems and massive crowding and a shortage of staff and nurses. in a grave _ shortage of staff and nurses. in a grave prospect to put it mildly. we will grave prospect to put it mildly. - will get more on the nhs shortly. perhaps the government will look for some sense of positivity out of the story is the times is running big on which is a new pact with france to stem the flow of migrants. there's a figure 40 vac thousand migrants in the course of this year which the bbc was reporting, and now official because the mod is saying that is the figure. there is a pact that it's going to come into play. yes. it's going to come into play. yes, exce ht it's going to come into play. yes, except that _ it's going to come into play. yes, except that that _ it's going to come into play. yes, except that that 40,000 - it's going to come into play. he: except that that 40,000 figure for this year compares with around
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28,500 for the entire year for 2021. it is normally good news about the times made a point that britain and france will announce a shared multi—million security pact to stem these record numbers. if you go into these record numbers. if you go into the detail it looks like the uk will be spending £17,000,000, an increase of about 16 million on the current deal, so they will be giving our french friends more money to hopefully stop these small boat crisis. is going to be announced by the home secretary and fluent french speaker suella botman in paris tomorrow. that will give her some working respite because —— suella braverman. she's been in the news for the wrong reasons. essentially what the british want the french to do is to increase the interception rate around 70%. it was around 50% but that is fallen now to 42%. i
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think on saturday at nearly 1000 migrants chose to take that perilous journey. it's not as if the incoming winter is stopping these migrants from making thatjourney. so perhaps it needs to be done fairly quickly. it is a statistic story. it is packed with disturbing numbers. just to add to one, the home office revealing that more than 122,000 people waiting to have their claims and says here in the uk. the people waiting to have their claims and says here in the uk.— people waiting to have their claims and says here in the uk. the point i was auoin and says here in the uk. the point i was going to _ and says here in the uk. the point i was going to make _ and says here in the uk. the point i was going to make him _ and says here in the uk. the point i was going to make him a _ and says here in the uk. the point i was going to make him a we - and says here in the uk. the point i was going to make him a we been l and says here in the uk. the point i. was going to make him a we been here before, _ was going to make him a we been here before, we've — was going to make him a we been here before, we've given the french £50 million _ before, we've given the french £50 million a _ before, we've given the french £50 million a few years ago as lining up a shaky— million a few years ago as lining up a shaky start has cut out the number of people _ a shaky start has cut out the number of people crossing the channel to about _ of people crossing the channel to about % — of people crossing the channel to about 4%. —— 40%. his talk can solve the problem — about 4%. —— 40%. his talk can solve the problem was hundred thousand people _ the problem was hundred thousand people waiting for asylum applications to be processed by the
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home _ applications to be processed by the home office. many saying how it's causing _ home office. many saying how it's causing the country £7 million a week— causing the country £7 million a week for— causing the country £7 million a week for the staying in hotels for ”p week for the staying in hotels for up to— week for the staying in hotels for up to three years i come back to the point, _ up to three years i come back to the point, who's— up to three years i come back to the point, who's been in charge of the last couple — point, who's been in charge of the last couple years? the tory government. they presided over this fiasco, _ government. they presided over this fiasco, more — government. they presided over this fiasco, more than a fiasco, it's a tragedy— fiasco, more than a fiasco, it's a tragedy in — fiasco, more than a fiasco, it's a tragedy in mary's ways. can you imagine — tragedy in mary's ways. can you imagine staying in a hotel because like most — imagine staying in a hotel because like most of these people are single men. i_ like most of these people are single men, i gather. like most of these people are single men, igather. can like most of these people are single men, i gather. can you imagine staying — men, i gather. can you imagine staying in— men, i gather. can you imagine staying in hotel with a wife and two kids and _ staying in hotel with a wife and two kids and one room for three years waiting _ kids and one room for three years waiting for— kids and one room for three years waiting for the asylum process? although — waiting for the asylum process? although the home secretary talks about _ although the home secretary talks about in— although the home secretary talks about in invasion and in some cases iiiegai— about in invasion and in some cases illegal immigrants. i think you might— illegal immigrants. i think you might say 70 or 80% of these people are waiting _ might say 70 or 80% of these people are waiting to have their claims assessed — are waiting to have their claims assessed in the end have those claims — assessed in the end have those claims approve. rather than being invaded _ claims approve. rather than being invaded by— claims approve. rather than being invaded by illegal immigrants they are people with perfectly legitimate ciaims _ are people with perfectly legitimate claims to _ are people with perfectly legitimate claims to be hurt like it or not. very—
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claims to be hurt like it or not. very difficult to put yourself in their shoes. a couple of stories i want to, not quite raced through about one area with this administration, the shaping of the government is in line with the last and with the borisjohnson over attitudes toward russia. we have the 620 meet at, rishi sunak will be speaking to put in because he will not be there. but he is going to call russia a rogue state. do you think that is as far as language can go on this? irate think that is as far as language can go on this?— go on this? we know a lot about rishi sunak _ go on this? we know a lot about rishi sunak the _ go on this? we know a lot about rishi sunak the chancellor - go on this? we know a lot about rishi sunak the chancellor but i go on this? we know a lot about. rishi sunak the chancellor but we don't really know that much about his opinions on the world stage was actually sometimes it feels like there are two chancellors of the exchequer. ahead of the 620 summit in indonesia sunak is coming out diplomatically speaking, guns blazing at russia. saying that president putin is failure to affirm his country status as a rogue state.
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his predecessor liz truss had described russia in those terms. but interestingly countries like the us having. i think they describe russia as a pariah nation, a pariah nation. in two put the dot on the head of a pen but semantics is important. i think this is a sign for rishi sunak seem to show that he means business against russia. remember, he let it know that he didn't want to go to the 6 know that he didn't want to go to the g 27 know that he didn't want to go to the 6 27 summit in egypt where he gave an underwhelming speech. i think this is where he's trying to lay the ground like, please take me serious. , ., ., ., ., serious. global pariah or rogue state, serious. global pariah or rogue state. not _ serious. global pariah or rogue state, not sure _ serious. global pariah or rogue state, not sure if _ serious. global pariah or rogue state, not sure if president - serious. global pariah or rogue i state, not sure if president putin is going to care between the distinction of one of the other. you are talking about the nhs, the dreadful state it's in. many of the papers reflecting map. also in mail the be a ne chief saying i don't want elderly belly in there they are
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like lobster traps, easy to get into, very hard to get out of and thatis into, very hard to get out of and that is the big one to worry. yet it is. it aet that is the big one to worry. yet it is. it get better _ that is the big one to worry. yet it is. it get better because _ that is the big one to worry. yet it is. it get better because of- that is the big one to worry. yet it is. it get better because of the - is. it get better because of the sheer— is. it get better because of the sheer number of people in there and the infections that they've got. this doctor adrian boyle in the royai— this doctor adrian boyle in the royal college of emergency medicine is saying _ royal college of emergency medicine is saying that he's fearful of letting _ is saying that he's fearful of letting pete delete that page is going _ letting pete delete that page is going to hospital at all because of the overcrowding, covid and because of the _ the overcrowding, covid and because of the bed _ the overcrowding, covid and because of the bed locking by people who have to _ of the bed locking by people who have to stay in hospital because there _ have to stay in hospital because there is— have to stay in hospital because there is nowhere else for them to go in the _ there is nowhere else for them to go in the community. something like 13.000 _ in the community. something like 13.000 at— in the community. something like 13,000 at anyone time in beds in the nhs system and in wales because there's no— nhs system and in wales because there's no provision for them the community. he is saying if at all possible — community. he is saying if at all possible stay away. i think he says hundreds — possible stay away. i think he says hundreds of being killed every week.
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fills hundreds of being killed every week. fiiis us _ hundreds of being killed every week. fills us with foreboding for the winter, doesn't it? a bright moment in this rather gloomy assessment of what the paper stuff to talk about. i know you watch it, the t20 success for england. they really are on top of the white ball world. yes. of the white ball world. yes, they are. of the white ball world. yes, they are- they are _ of the white ball world. yes, they are. they are both _ of the white ball world. yes, they are. they are both champions - of the white ball world. yes, they are. they are both champions in i of the white ball world. yes, they i are. they are both champions in the 20 20 and the odi are. they are both champions in the 20 20 and the 0di which of course they want at lourdes in 2019 myself and my two boys got up early this morning to watch and it was mainly pakistani fans that were filling out the stadium, a great brand old cricket ground. it is redemption of sorts for ben stokes because in a 20 20 final in calcutta he got hit with force and lost to the west indies. he made it there. calm, composed 52 and together with the rest of the team they are heroes. where are you going to build a statue of ben
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stokes is the next question. he delivers. did you say sir ben stokes? that will be the clarion call. and the idea of him needing redemption is quite a test to. good for english port, good for british support for that we got another big event around the corner. yes support for that we got another big event around the corner.— event around the corner. yes 'ust before the — event around the corner. yes 'ust before the world i event around the corner. yes 'ust before the world cup. * event around the corner. yes 'ust before the world cup. i i event around the corner. yes 'ust before the world cup. i think h event around the corner. yesjust before the world cup. i think ben stokes _ before the world cup. i think ben stokes and the captain was saying and coaches harry kane and england team in— and coaches harry kane and england team in their pursuit of glory. i'm sure— team in their pursuit of glory. i'm sure we— team in their pursuit of glory. i'm sure we ali— team in their pursuit of glory. i'm sure we all endorsed off yes, why not? great— sure we all endorsed off yes, why not? great news to hear about the engiish _ not? great news to hear about the engiish put — not? great news to hear about the english put up a shaky start haven't been _ english put up a shaky start haven't been beat _ english put up a shaky start haven't been beat by arlen, no disrespect to arlen. _ been beat by arlen, no disrespect to arlen. it _ been beat by arlen, no disrespect to arlen, it wasn't expected. ireland can celebrate that. and anglican ceiebrate — can celebrate that. and anglican celebrate being world champions twice~ _ celebrate being world champions twice. , ., . ., , celebrate being world champions twice. . ., , , , twice. they are clearly the best in the world at _ twice. they are clearly the best in the world at the _ twice. they are clearly the best in the world at the moment. - twice. they are clearly the best in the world at the moment. i - twice. they are clearly the best in the world at the moment. i was i twice. they are clearly the best in i the world at the moment. i was still anxious on every ball. as a fan you never quite get over that, do you?
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john and john thank you both very

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